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| 08:22.13 | LePoulpe303 | hi all |
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| 08:46.49 | LePoulpe303 | spldart: ping |
| 10:15.43 | spldart | PONG! |
| 10:20.13 | LePoulpe303 | spldart : ouch ! |
| 10:20.30 | spldart | hehe |
| 10:21.01 | spldart | You were lucky to catch me at this hour... wife has high fever and I'm up to take care of her |
| 10:21.19 | LePoulpe303 | damn ; hope she'll go better |
| 10:21.55 | LePoulpe303 | i have nothing more important to say compared to that ! |
| 10:22.33 | spldart | she will she got it from the middle kid who brought it home from school... Nasty Flu.. anywho... what did you want? :) |
| 10:24.05 | LePoulpe303 | i don't remember where we stopped last time about my software ; do u remember ? |
| 10:24.12 | LePoulpe303 | (ahh kids) |
| 10:24.54 | spldart | Oop... don't remember where we left off... what was the synopsis? |
| 10:25.09 | LePoulpe303 | we can go back to the beginning |
| 10:25.19 | LePoulpe303 | bzmanager.blogspot.com |
| 10:27.14 | spldart | Now I remember... I never got my configuration correct and it was complaining at me. I was going to ask if you could refine the app window too.. |
| 10:28.09 | LePoulpe303 | let's move in PV to avoid "pollution" on this channel , ok ? |
| 10:29.16 | spldart | k |
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| 10:51.19 | bz6300 | Im battiling to network the game any suggestions |
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| 13:15.37 | conanhome | orange: hey orange! |
| 13:22.49 | conanhome | does somebody know who owns proxs? |
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| 14:10.53 | Pimpi | the server? |
| 14:11.06 | Pimpi | orange |
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| 14:23.09 | conanhome | Pimpi: yeah, the server |
| 14:23.15 | conanhome | Pimpi: proxs.bzflag.org |
| 14:23.47 | conanhome | Pimpi: well, two have said orange so far, so it must be orange ;) |
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| 16:41.42 | Teppic | Any devs about? |
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| 16:52.06 | LePoulpe303 | anyone knows a way to get bzflag binary and bzflag data paths in linux ? |
| 16:52.26 | Teppic | locate bin/bzflag |
| 16:52.45 | Teppic | and locate bzflag/boxwall.png |
| 16:52.58 | Teppic | 1st is binary, second is data |
| 16:53.15 | LePoulpe303 | thanks alot teppic ! will it work for ppl that compiled bzflag theirself ? |
| 16:53.38 | Teppic | If you've just installed do a updatedb as root first, this may take a minute. |
| 16:53.54 | Teppic | And yes it will work |
| 16:54.17 | LePoulpe303 | hmm perfect ; just have to get that from python now ;) |
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| 17:02.23 | Teppic | bzflagpath=os.popen('/bin/slocate bin/bzflag','r') |
| 17:02.59 | LePoulpe303 | Teppic : stooop or i will loose the motivation to work :D |
| 17:03.18 | Teppic | Sorry? |
| 17:03.54 | LePoulpe303 | i even don't have to search : you have the answer :D |
| 17:04.45 | LePoulpe303 | i just spent 2 hours in the afternoon to help a guy to find where were located its bzflag and data path |
| 17:04.54 | LePoulpe303 | :S |
| 17:06.06 | Teppic | http://docs.python.org/lib/module-os.html |
| 17:06.15 | Teppic | There you go, still some work to be done. |
| 17:07.16 | TimRiker | $ which bzflag should work too. |
| 17:08.40 | Teppic | Yeah, without the db being up to date also. |
| 17:09.35 | LePoulpe303 | i like the locate option |
| 17:09.52 | conanhome | about which db are you talking about? |
| 17:10.21 | Teppic | slocate db |
| 17:10.24 | LePoulpe303 | teppic : don't u know anyone that could help me for python on macosx ? |
| 17:10.57 | Teppic | Python is python, AFAIK the mosules should work the same for both os's |
| 17:11.02 | Teppic | modules* |
| 17:11.22 | LePoulpe303 | Teppic : yeah but where are located config.cfg on mac ? can we call bzfalg with command lineon mac ? etc |
| 17:11.42 | Teppic | You want CBg i thing |
| 17:12.11 | Teppic | Ask on the forum for someone to help, they will oblige I'm sure. |
| 17:13.07 | LePoulpe303 | i talked with cbg ; does'nt seem interested (or he hide it because he's shy maybe ;) ) |
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| 17:36.31 | conanhome | just read lepoulpe question, what kind of help was he searching for? |
| 17:36.37 | conanhome | Teppic: do you know? |
| 17:37.03 | Teppic | Erm, help with standard paths on a mac. |
| 17:38.13 | conanhome | ! |
| 17:38.22 | conanhome | doesn't he knows how to find a path? |
| 17:38.25 | Teppic | Anyone know the difference between 'texture' and 'addtexture' for material deifinitions |
| 17:38.53 | Teppic | No, he needs to know where config.cfg is stored on OSX |
| 17:39.05 | Teppic | I think??? |
| 17:40.05 | JeffM2501 | texture sets the base texture |
| 17:40.10 | JeffM2501 | addtexture adds a texture |
| 17:40.19 | JeffM2501 | like when you have more then one |
| 17:40.21 | Teppic | Well, he was originally after a way to find certain file paths within linux, I'm assuming he needs the same of OSX |
| 17:40.42 | Teppic | JeffM2501 : Is it supported yet? |
| 17:41.02 | JeffM2501 | it'll work IIRC |
| 17:41.21 | JeffM2501 | but probably not how you expect |
| 17:41.40 | Teppic | Does it assume alpha in any of the texture files. I was playing a bit, and the first texture that was set was all I saw. |
| 17:42.12 | JeffM2501 | that's why I said it won't work like you expect :) |
| 17:42.15 | JeffM2501 | just use texture |
| 17:42.25 | JeffM2501 | we don't realy support full multi-texture yet |
| 17:42.40 | Teppic | I'm trying to write the python import module for the material object. |
| 17:43.05 | Teppic | Aha, so I can just ignore it untill you do? |
| 17:43.06 | JeffM2501 | to read a map from python? |
| 17:43.11 | Teppic | Ya |
| 17:43.20 | JeffM2501 | using the API? |
| 17:43.24 | JeffM2501 | or direclty in the source? |
| 17:43.29 | Teppic | Blenders, yes |
| 17:43.32 | JeffM2501 | oh oh |
| 17:43.33 | JeffM2501 | blender |
| 17:43.34 | JeffM2501 | got it |
| 17:44.22 | Teppic | So, it the final goal mapping textures to more than diffuse? |
| 17:44.42 | JeffM2501 | trepan has some verisons that do multi texture |
| 17:44.45 | JeffM2501 | and shader stuff |
| 17:45.08 | JeffM2501 | so it can do stuff like environ maps and stuff uing add texture |
| 17:45.18 | Teppic | To compliment is lod stuff no doubt? |
| 17:45.27 | JeffM2501 | and to make it look cooler |
| 17:45.33 | JeffM2501 | shiny thigns that reflect :) |
| 17:45.55 | Teppic | Oooh, reflective materials. |
| 17:46.11 | JeffM2501 | there are many thigns you can do with multi |
| 17:46.59 | Teppic | Yeah, like the things you do to materials in 3D renders. |
| 17:47.39 | JeffM2501 | yes |
| 17:48.46 | Teppic | I remember using Imagine, you had to make the colour in a paint program, then copy the rbg over. |
| 17:51.00 | Teppic | So, it would be forward thinking to be able to read these 'addtexture' lines , and sort them to be assigned to channels when supported? |
| 17:51.46 | conanhome | Teppic: what are you doing? a map editor? |
| 17:51.50 | Teppic | Ya |
| 17:51.56 | conanhome | Teppic: cool |
| 17:51.57 | JeffM2501 | you can yeah |
| 17:52.05 | JeffM2501 | he's working on the blender exporter |
| 17:52.41 | JeffM2501 | Teppic, how are you going to handle bz specific thigns, like telepoters, and the like? |
| 17:53.22 | Teppic | Create a mesh to represent them, and have the bz specific variables stored in the mesh object data |
| 17:53.46 | JeffM2501 | so it won't look exactly the same then |
| 17:53.55 | Teppic | ?? |
| 17:54.23 | JeffM2501 | aka you can draw a mesh in blender that dosn't look like a bz teleporter, yet is put in the map as one |
| 17:54.29 | Teppic | All the meshes I have written so far are a very good likeness. |
| 17:54.34 | JeffM2501 | then in game it shows as a bz teleporter |
| 17:54.42 | JeffM2501 | a teleporter is not a mesh |
| 17:55.16 | Teppic | Ahhh, no, the gui that comes with the tools will have the add function for all bz type objects. |
| 17:55.23 | JeffM2501 | ahh ok |
| 17:55.29 | JeffM2501 | so it will slap down a mesh for one |
| 17:55.30 | JeffM2501 | nice |
| 17:56.18 | Teppic | Yeah, it lets you move them around an scale them and stuff. |
| 17:57.02 | Teppic | Then copies any relavent data to the bz class object so it can export iteslf. |
| 17:57.31 | Teppic | I did a screeny of overlord in the thread on the forum. |
| 17:57.45 | JeffM2501 | fun |
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| 17:59.21 | Teppic | I have a few simple things left to do, like world and waterlevel, then it's onto the export side. |
| 18:00.18 | JeffM2501 | then we can just make the 2.0 editor complainers just learn blender :) |
| 18:03.10 | Teppic | Well, surely it's only the ability to make custom meshes that stops a 2.0 editor being made? |
| 18:03.42 | JeffM2501 | nope |
| 18:03.48 | JeffM2501 | noone wants to make one |
| 18:03.48 | Teppic | And why write a custom one when the emacs of 3D editors allreay exists. |
| 18:03.59 | Teppic | lol |
| 18:04.09 | JeffM2501 | actualy a perfectly fine map editor could be made that dosn't make meshes |
| 18:04.14 | JeffM2501 | all it has to do is import them |
| 18:04.22 | Teppic | Sure |
| 18:04.29 | JeffM2501 | so the mesh part was not a big deal |
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| 18:04.43 | JeffM2501 | mostly it's because the people who make editors, just don't care that much |
| 18:04.43 | Teppic | And the code exists in potentia in the bz source. |
| 18:05.05 | JeffM2501 | it was not a techincal reason at all |
| 18:05.11 | Teppic | That's you and trepan isn't it? |
| 18:05.17 | JeffM2501 | it's just me |
| 18:05.29 | JeffM2501 | as far as I know trepan has never made a graphical map editor |
| 18:05.38 | JeffM2501 | purple cow made one as well |
| 18:05.46 | JeffM2501 | binary spike is suposedly "working" on one |
| 18:05.51 | Teppic | Who's the other guy in the credits, i assumed it was him. |
| 18:05.54 | JeffM2501 | I started my new one, then gave up on it |
| 18:06.02 | JeffM2501 | what credits? |
| 18:06.06 | JeffM2501 | the bzflag credits? |
| 18:06.15 | JeffM2501 | or bzedit credits? |
| 18:06.23 | Teppic | The copyright on the bzedit. Maybe I've had too many muffins. |
| 18:06.32 | JeffM2501 | oh dtr did some stuff on it too |
| 18:06.46 | Teppic | Ahhh, that makes sense. |
| 18:06.51 | JeffM2501 | cleanups and fixes after it was released |
| 18:07.04 | JeffM2501 | my first bzedit is some realy bad code |
| 18:07.17 | Teppic | All my stuff is some really bad code. |
| 18:07.50 | JeffM2501 | mine was unportable |
| 18:07.54 | JeffM2501 | and unstable |
| 18:08.11 | Teppic | I used to write vhdl for fpga chips, and old habbits of small code die hard |
| 18:08.26 | JeffM2501 | heh |
| 18:08.33 | JeffM2501 | remember ram is cheap :) |
| 18:08.47 | Teppic | Like an eeprom |
| 18:08.53 | Teppic | Embedded. |
| 18:14.36 | brad2901 | what's the current 2.1 protocol? |
| 18:18.02 | Tupone | 0034 |
| 18:18.22 | brad2901 | thanks |
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| 18:53.11 | brad2901 | ~bzflist |
| 19:06.12 | gsnedders | ~bzquery viper2.pimpi.org:5158 |
| 19:06.23 | gsnedders | ~bzfquery viper2.pimpi.org:5158 |
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| 20:10.44 | orange | why do some groups show up under the 'join a group' non-member groups list on bzbb? Are they open to join? (I didn't test, didn't seem friendly to do so) |
| 20:12.02 | brlcad | they weren't marked as private probably |
| 20:16.16 | orange | ok, and I see that's a different perm than joining, cool |
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| 20:26.59 | Deepa | ~bzfquery armchairs.be:5154 |
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| 21:04.07 | Grumbler | good morning BZFLAG! |
| 21:07.11 | _Manu_ | good night :) |
| 21:07.43 | Grumbler | sry, i was using UGT |
| 21:08.00 | Grumbler | but, good night to you Mr. _Manu_ |
| 21:08.57 | _Manu_ | np Mr. Grumbler :) |
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| 21:23.54 | conanhome | Pimpi: ? |
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| 22:21.39 | CIA-2 | BZFlag: 03atupone * 10bzflag/src/bzflag/playing.cxx: Send Tank position before requesting a flag grab |
| 22:22.03 | sussi | thx kierra |
| 22:22.28 | sussi | could u kick my dead body (sussi) here aswell, thx in advance |
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| 22:55.36 | Pimpi | how is 2.0.4 tagged? |
| 22:58.08 | DTRemenak | v2_0_4 |
| 22:58.25 | Pimpi | ty |
| 23:02.20 | DTRemenak | np |
| 23:05.20 | Pimpi | http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1403179&group_id=3248&atid=303248 |
| 23:05.25 | Pimpi | might be a nice idea |
| 23:06.23 | DTRemenak | Jeff and I were talking about a gm-lock indicator on the HUD |
| 23:08.27 | Pimpi | how? |
| 23:08.51 | Pimpi | like an arrow pointing downwards on the tank? |
| 23:09.00 | Pimpi | or something like that? |
| 23:09.58 | ruskie | naahh |
| 23:10.06 | ruskie | I'd go with a target box |
| 23:10.21 | TimRiker | a flashing dot on the scoreboard next to the shooter? |
| 23:10.23 | ruskie | [ ] <-- like so around the tank |
| 23:10.46 | ruskie | atleast for the hud display... |
| 23:10.54 | DTRemenak | hm, that would be interesting |
| 23:11.09 | ruskie | for the scoreboard display hmmm... yeah a flashing dot could do it :) |
| 23:12.05 | Pimpi | a marker on radar would be nice too though |
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| 23:19.18 | TD-Linux | maybe a red box around the tank when locked on, and yellow box when 'looking at' |
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| 23:26.14 | *** join/#bzflag garrett (n=garrett@c-24-15-87-171.hsd1.il.comcast.net) |
| 23:26.30 | garrett | cop to louman's please |
| 23:26.36 | garrett | cop/admin |
| 23:26.38 | garrett | thank you |