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| 01:42.56 | jpablo | hey people, im having a error using bzflag im getting error unpacking world database |
| 01:43.01 | jpablo | even when i put my own server |
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| 01:44.39 | jpablo | any ideas ? |
| 01:45.16 | TD-Linux | what version? |
| 01:45.35 | jpablo | 2.0.4 |
| 01:46.19 | jpablo | in Linux |
| 01:47.12 | TD-Linux | hmm... can't help you any further |
| 01:47.29 | JeffM2501 | what CPU? |
| 01:47.42 | JeffM2501 | and is it from like a debian package? |
| 01:47.55 | jpablo | yeah |
| 01:47.57 | jpablo | debian |
| 01:48.00 | jpablo | ppc |
| 01:48.06 | JeffM2501 | build it yourself |
| 01:48.13 | JeffM2501 | from anon CVS souces |
| 01:48.26 | JeffM2501 | a number of people have problems with the packages |
| 01:48.42 | jpablo | :( |
| 01:49.05 | JeffM2501 | it's easy to build |
| 01:49.10 | TD-Linux | anon cvs is down right now |
| 01:49.42 | JeffM2501 | gimme a sec |
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| 01:58.55 | JeffM2501 | http://my.bzflag.org/builds/2.0.x/bzflag_src_2.0.5b5.20060120.zip |
| 01:59.53 | JeffM2501 | that's current source |
| 02:01.26 | TD-Linux | I still love those new bullets :) |
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| 02:36.47 | spldart | is funny 2.0 client just turned 1.. My bzflag experience turns 1 in a month :) |
| 02:41.10 | PuMpErNiCkLe | btw, just curious - has anyone else in here used icc to compile BZflag? |
| 02:49.39 | spldart | Wow... I was thinking abotu asking a similar question... is there a freeware I can use to compile bzflag in win xp |
| 02:51.20 | Tupone | spldart: MinGW+MSYS |
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| 02:51.50 | RPG_ | hello |
| 02:52.24 | RPG_ | Would anybody here that knows (even informally) Linux/Unix socket programing like to help out with the Masterbot project? |
| 02:52.55 | RPG_ | I'm estimating the work would only take about a half hour to an hour, based on what it took me to write the Windows socket part |
| 02:59.02 | spldart | thank you tupone... looking now |
| 02:59.20 | spldart | gah.. |
| 03:00.43 | TD-Linux | ~cvs |
| 03:00.48 | ibot | cvs stands for concurrent versions systems. more info here http://www.cvshome.org/. The asterisk CVS can be found at http://asterisk.espia-net.net/horde/chora/cvs.php. It is also Giving.....you.....the.......source......one..........bit.........at..............a.....................time. |
| 03:00.53 | TD-Linux | ~bzcvs |
| 03:00.54 | ibot | cvs -d :pserver:anonymous@cvs.bzflag.org:/cvsroot/bzflag co -P -r v2_0branch bzflag |
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| 04:02.22 | spldart | hrm.... |
| 04:27.28 | spldart | who was it that did ports of c64 games llive applets on his server? |
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| 05:43.34 | PuMpErNiCkLe | hmm, icc seems to choke on BZflag o_O |
| 06:08.14 | orchid | ~bzfquery bzgirl.bzflag.bz:1868 |
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| 06:47.32 | orchid | ~8ball wine or tea |
| 06:47.35 | ibot | I'm not sure. |
| 06:47.53 | PuMpErNiCkLe | ~8ball beer or coffee |
| 06:47.55 | ibot | I'm not sure. |
| 06:48.01 | PuMpErNiCkLe | bah |
| 06:48.31 | Fiberchunks | hrm... |
| 06:48.47 | Fiberchunks | ~8ball 8ball or Freebase |
| 06:48.49 | ibot | Absolutely. |
| 06:48.52 | PuMpErNiCkLe | ~8ball Should I drink beer? |
| 06:48.53 | ibot | Absolutely. |
| 06:48.53 | Fiberchunks | heh |
| 06:49.30 | orchid | hey Fiberchunks |
| 06:49.54 | Fiberchunks | howdy orchid :) |
| 06:50.40 | brlcad | ~8ball should orchid drink wine? |
| 06:50.43 | ibot | Sure. Yeah, exactly. |
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| 08:22.01 | CIA-2 | BZFlag: 03brlcad * 10admin/master-bans.txt: Inappropriate public server callsigns, extensive teamkilling, groin obsessing |
| 08:25.20 | purple_cow | groin obsessing? |
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| 08:27.00 | PuMpErNiCkLe | purple_cow: Stuff like "My tank's turret is bigger than yours". ^_^ |
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| 08:30.05 | findlay | what does it mean if my lag isn't too bad but the +/- is over 500 ms? |
| 08:31.57 | PuMpErNiCkLe | findlay: You have a good average latency, but it's inconsistent. |
| 08:33.27 | findlay | what makes it inconsistent? |
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| 11:05.13 | ToughShooter | _Manu_: Hola and ping :) |
| 11:06.40 | ToughShooter | _Manu_: DTR seem to have broken Mac icon - can you revert? |
| 11:08.09 | ToughShooter | According to http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/bzflag/bzflag/src/platform/MacOSX/MacBZFlag.icns?rev=2.3&view=log all was ok (including JeffM2501's change) until DTR came |
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| 11:25.33 | CIA-2 | BZFlag: 03jujibo 07v2_0branch * 10bzflag/src/platform/MacOSX/MacBZFlag.icns: Broken icon - Visual Studio has nothing to to with Mac |
| 11:48.03 | ndim | _Manu_, ToughShooter: That is a binary file lacking kb. Someone with commit access run "cvs admin -kb bzflag/src/platform/MacOSX/MacBZFlag.icns". |
| 11:49.08 | _Manu_ | o_O |
| 11:50.28 | ndim | At least it is in HEAD. |
| 11:52.23 | ndim | I'd check out the v2_0branch myself if the AnonCVS was working... |
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| 12:05.43 | _Manu_ | well I think it's fixed now |
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| 12:08.41 | Pimpinella | ndim: cvs admin -kb will force everybody to update -A i guess... |
| 12:09.13 | _Manu_ | Pimpinella, no |
| 12:09.22 | _Manu_ | I just deleted my icon, updated and all is fine now |
| 12:09.49 | Pimpinella | oh yeah, but you had to delete it then |
| 12:10.01 | _Manu_ | I did |
| 12:11.23 | _Manu_ | yes, now you need to cvs update -A thefile |
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| 12:31.13 | CIA-2 | BZFlag: 03jujibo * 10bzflag/src/platform/MacOSX/MacBZFlag.icns: Broken icon - Visual Studio has nothing to to with Mac |
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| 13:03.59 | ndim | Pimpinella: Well, you have to mark binary files correctly once. Otherwise you'll run into problems again and again and again. |
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| 14:16.31 | spldart | Is it practical and how would I do CVS updates of the ongoing development of the 2.1 unstable branch. Thought being saving bandwidth on CVS |
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| 14:25.18 | spldart | Sweet.. uncapped on the weekend I'm getting 5meg down and 554k up on cable modem :) |
| 14:55.36 | Pimpinella | spldart: you save bandwidth using cvs |
| 14:56.04 | Pimpinella | actually it' the only way getting ongoing updates |
| 14:56.55 | Pimpinella | go to the sources base dir and do "cvs up -dP" |
| 14:57.45 | spldart | So go to /home/user/bzflag2.0/bzflag or /home/user/bzflag2.1/bzflag and do cvs up -dP? |
| 14:58.00 | spldart | And will it list the updated files? |
| 15:07.24 | sniperyyd | Pimpinella: did u check my map? |
| 15:07.44 | spldart | ok.... lemme flip teh monitor switch and try it :) |
| 15:34.41 | spldart | I forgot to ask... will cvs up -dP no that each sources package is a different version and update from the appropriate branch? |
| 15:37.00 | blast007 | yes |
| 15:37.12 | blast007 | the CVS directory stores that kind of information |
| 15:37.18 | blast007 | directories* |
| 15:37.59 | Pimpinella | spldart: if you checked out cvs with a tag that tag is sticky until you remove it |
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| 15:39.49 | Pimpinella | both directories work independently, so you need to update each of them independently too |
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| 15:40.03 | spldart | eeeeeyyuuuuuuwwwwaaaahhh............ Sticky tags! 8-X hehe.. thanks for info Pimpinella |
| 15:40.20 | spldart | I did just that. each one independant from the base of the directory |
| 15:40.35 | Pimpinella | v2_0branch is a tag e-g- |
| 15:40.57 | spldart | But I should have to worry about that right? |
| 15:41.14 | spldart | just go to each directory as SU and run that cvs up thing? |
| 15:41.50 | Pimpinella | yu don't need su unless you checked it out as root |
| 15:42.04 | Pimpinella | and there's no good reason for doing so |
| 15:42.06 | spldart | I did... my bad |
| 15:42.20 | Pimpinella | even then it's just a matter of file permissions |
| 15:43.29 | spldart | I have to SU to build so I end up doing it all in SU then moving the apps I want to new directories, chmod'ing and strip'ing them |
| 15:43.29 | Pimpinella | chown -R newuser:newgroup /home/user/bzflag2.0/bzflag |
| 15:43.43 | Pimpinella | should fix it, executed as root |
| 15:44.01 | spldart | Thanks... |
| 15:44.12 | Pimpinella | newuser and nogroup should match your username and probably your initial group |
| 15:44.58 | Pimpinella | sniperyyd: no, didn't check yet. i'll do now |
| 15:45.02 | spldart | Hrm what is default group? I set up a user but that's it |
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| 15:47.54 | Pimpinella | spldart: the command "groups" lists your groups |
| 15:48.06 | Pimpinella | the first one would be your initial group |
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| 15:49.40 | Pimpinella | "id -ng" lits only your initial group (just for sure) |
| 15:50.34 | spldart | myusername dialout cdrom floppy audio video plugdev |
| 15:50.50 | spldart | so group:username is myusername:myusername |
| 15:51.03 | Pimpinella | seems so, yes |
| 15:51.06 | Fiberchunks | hey, can one of yall explain the new addresses i'm seeing when someone joins a channel (i.e. i=Fiberc@someip or n=someuser@/pdpc/supporter/blah/blah |
| 15:51.14 | Pimpinella | username:group though |
| 15:51.26 | spldart | kew noted |
| 15:51.32 | Pimpinella | Fiberchunks: you donated to pdbc |
| 15:52.08 | Pimpinella | Fiberchunks: hm, probably misunderstood |
| 15:53.01 | Fiberchunks | i've not seen that format for user addresses before, like the n= and i= prefix and was curious what they were / meant ... is there a link that explains this? |
| 15:56.32 | spldart | ok during cvs up-dP all file that scroll by saying updated are actual updates? |
| 15:57.15 | Chestal | Fiberchunks: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userequals for i= / n= |
| 15:57.21 | ruskie | Fiberchunks, N= not running ident server |
| 15:57.24 | spldart | Or does it just display a filename as it checks each and there may or may not be an update... And can CVS give me a log? |
| 15:57.27 | ruskie | I= running ident server |
| 15:57.43 | Fiberchunks | thx chestal |
| 15:57.47 | Fiberchunks | and ruskie |
| 15:57.58 | Pimpinella | spldart: look at the first character |
| 15:58.30 | Chestal | Fiberchunks: the other thing is called a 'cload'. http://freenode.net/faq.shtml has some items about cloaks |
| 15:59.14 | Fiberchunks | thx again |
| 16:16.38 | brlcad | hmm.. can someone check if 69.76.15.156 shows up on the global banlist in-game? |
| 16:16.46 | brlcad | should be the last entry |
| 16:17.38 | brad2901 | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:17.38 | brad2901 | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:17.38 | brad2901 | illing, groin obsessing |
| 16:18.16 | orchid | yay |
| 16:18.17 | spldart | yah.. got it too... you beat me to it brad |
| 16:18.18 | spldart | :( |
| 16:18.22 | brad2901 | :) |
| 16:18.36 | brlcad | hrmph |
| 16:18.39 | brlcad | wierd |
| 16:18.44 | blast007 | I didn't even have to to switch to another screen to start a server quick ;) |
| 16:18.55 | brlcad | he's somehow still connecting to a couple servers |
| 16:18.59 | blast007 | er, even have enough time to* |
| 16:19.09 | brlcad | ahh, maybe the /reload bug that clears out the globals |
| 16:19.50 | brad2901 | "groin obsessing"... heh |
| 16:20.37 | spldart | I had to type /masterban reload in all my bzadmin's to get mr. groin obsessor |
| 16:34.52 | orchid | long haird freaky people need not apply |
| 16:35.05 | orchid | s/haird/haired |
| 16:42.49 | spldart | bzfs 1.10 is showing signs of life *excited* |
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| 17:00.52 | brlcad | spldart: yeah, but why?? |
| 17:01.02 | brlcad | best to just "let go" |
| 17:01.36 | brlcad | if there are problems in 2, you should be posting bug reports, feature requests, talking to folks here ;) |
| 17:03.31 | blast007 | 1.7 showed some life last time I ran one... |
| 17:09.38 | spldart | problems in 2? not a one ;-D |
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| 17:42.17 | Pimpinella | brlcad: didn't show up on viper |
| 17:44.11 | Pimpinella | /masterban reload fixed it |
| 17:46.51 | brlcad | k |
| 17:49.17 | brlcad | pretty sure it's that bug that essentially flushes the masterban when a new ban is added |
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| 17:52.29 | JeffM2501 | why do people want to use the tree and billboard all of a sudden? |
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| 17:58.21 | orchid | :) |
| 17:59.21 | JeffM2501 | I'm fixing it so all the images are hosted |
| 18:05.20 | JeffM2501 | can you include a bzw file from a URL? |
| 18:05.36 | RPG_ | supposadly |
| 18:05.49 | RPG_ | in the map file: |
| 18:05.49 | RPG_ | include http://www.maps.com/map.bzw |
| 18:05.52 | RPG_ | i only saw it done once |
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| 18:11.12 | JeffM2501 | well I'll post it and give the link to it |
| 18:11.16 | JeffM2501 | orchid, it's been updated |
| 18:11.45 | orchid | oh the zip? |
| 18:11.45 | JeffM2501 | http://my.bzflag.org/resources/prefabs/jmyers/billboard.bzw |
| 18:11.49 | JeffM2501 | no more zip |
| 18:11.55 | JeffM2501 | just the map file now |
| 18:12.00 | JeffM2501 | it gets the images from the net |
| 18:12.10 | orchid | cool |
| 18:12.12 | RPG_ | nice |
| 18:12.39 | JeffM2501 | aperantly person1 wanted to use it too |
| 18:12.50 | JeffM2501 | so I was in the process of doing his texture request |
| 18:12.58 | JeffM2501 | then I realise "hey, I made some of these textures" |
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| 18:23.25 | spldart | Just wanted to be able to say I did/doing it. BZFS 1.10.9, 2.0.5 and 2.1.6 are all online with Decks FFA LegoLand RC Legoland RC respectively |
| 18:26.16 | brlcad | well, you might as well do 1.7 then too :P |
| 18:26.25 | brlcad | as that was just as major :) |
| 18:26.49 | spldart | I'm doing 1.10 cuz it's old and there are still players |
| 18:27.19 | spldart | Is anyone still holding on to 1.7? |
| 18:27.21 | JeffM2501 | no |
| 18:27.29 | JeffM2501 | there isn't even a list server for it anymore |
| 18:27.56 | spldart | thought so... as 1.10 draws to a close I'll kill mine too... but I make server 10 in there right now :) |
| 18:28.08 | JeffM2501 | 1.10 is closed |
| 18:28.24 | spldart | In fact... I'm going to check out the other 9 now |
| 18:28.31 | spldart | closed as in development right? |
| 18:28.44 | JeffM2501 | and in general dead |
| 18:28.49 | JeffM2501 | there are a few who play it |
| 18:28.52 | JeffM2501 | but whopty do |
| 18:29.01 | JeffM2501 | people still play atari combat on emulators |
| 18:29.05 | JeffM2501 | it's consiudered dead |
| 18:30.16 | spldart | Then why are people righting emulators so long after the death? Nostalgia is part of it methinks... I've never known 1.10... I was introduced to bz in Feb 2k5 I'm having fun playing with the old stuff and learning a bit about the origins of the game |
| 18:30.42 | brlcad | ~bzflist17 |
| 18:30.53 | brlcad | there's a list server ;) |
| 18:31.13 | gsnedders | :P |
| 18:31.23 | spldart | hehe |
| 18:31.32 | RPG_ | with one player! |
| 18:32.24 | brlcad | spldart: if you want a "blast from the past" for bz, play the original sgi demo |
| 18:32.40 | RPG_ | can it be found anywhere? |
| 18:32.48 | brlcad | sure, just about any sgi machine |
| 18:33.11 | brlcad | non-server at least, like an old indy or indigo or o2 |
| 18:33.35 | *** join/#bzflag silverfox (n=vircuser@68-116-47-254.static.mdfd.or.charter.com) |
| 18:37.45 | gsnedders | silverfox, hi |
| 18:39.40 | silverfox | hello |
| 18:49.48 | blast007 | spldart: do you have an sgi system? |
| 18:51.28 | spldart | no.... was going to look up what this entailed |
| 18:51.34 | spldart | sp |
| 18:51.43 | blast007 | ~bzflist17 |
| 18:51.51 | blast007 | 2 servers ;) |
| 18:53.49 | spldart | sgi's seem similar to sparcs |
| 18:54.46 | spldart | in size and vintage |
| 18:55.08 | spldart | ah now... Ineed to get a tar of 1.7 huh?!?! |
| 18:55.10 | spldart | lol |
| 18:55.27 | spldart | There some gaming to be had at 1.10 btw... quite a few players online |
| 18:57.44 | blast007 | some of them don't even know they're using an "old version" |
| 18:58.15 | blast007 | they just use the one that they found on a website, or what shows in their package manager |
| 19:00.45 | spldart | EEK some package managers have not be upgraded??? |
| 19:01.05 | blast007 | mainly ooold linux distros |
| 19:01.18 | spldart | ic |
| 19:01.20 | blast007 | ones that use an old package tree |
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| 19:10.57 | *** join/#bzflag benplaut (n=benplaut@cpe-70-95-146-177.hawaii.res.rr.com) |
| 19:15.53 | *** join/#bzflag JeffM2501 (n=JeffM@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/JeffM2501) |
| 19:15.53 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o JeffM2501] by ChanServ |
| 19:19.43 | *** join/#bzflag lala (n=Administ@i53870991.versanet.de) |
| 19:21.53 | gsnedders | silverfox, i've got so much to do at the moment, I probably won't be able to do anything about the bzfs wiki until mid/late fed or early march |
| 19:25.10 | *** part/#bzflag RPG_ (n=G-bus@c-24-15-87-171.hsd1.il.comcast.net) |
| 19:31.19 | brlcad | hmm |
| 19:31.48 | brlcad | Thumper_: you seem to have a python process going out of control.. |
| 19:32.25 | brlcad | and a bzfs tied to it with higher than expected load |
| 19:33.59 | *** join/#bzflag Xell (n=Xell@p54876249.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 19:52.33 | *** join/#bzflag bz7257 (n=440d19e6@webchat.bzflag.bz) |
| 19:52.55 | *** part/#bzflag bz7257 (n=440d19e6@webchat.bzflag.bz) |
| 19:53.18 | *** join/#bzflag person1 (n=440d19e6@webchat.bzflag.bz) |
| 19:53.40 | person1 | can someone help me get my server up |
| 19:53.56 | person1 | shows up in list, had friend try and join,but he go logged out right as he joined |
| 19:54.17 | blast007 | what address? |
| 19:54.48 | person1 | server is up now if you would like to check it ( 68.13.25.230:5138) |
| 19:56.27 | person1 | what do i need to make sure it is public? |
| 19:56.49 | person1 | caz he can see and connect, it just says he signed on then like second later he signed off |
| 19:56.58 | person1 | and on his box it says error connecting to server |
| 19:58.20 | CIA-2 | opencombat: 03jeffm2501 * 10GPx01/client/ (8 files in 4 dirs): split up simple game file into game, hud, and drawing files for the client |
| 19:58.40 | blast007 | well, it is public, but I can't spawn, and I'm not getting any server message |
| 19:58.54 | person1 | hmmm see that is what is wrong |
| 19:59.00 | blast007 | are you forwarding both TCP and UDP on your router? |
| 19:59.00 | person1 | so what do i do to fix it |
| 19:59.12 | blast007 | also, what OS is the server running on? |
| 19:59.29 | JeffM2501 | it's probably your routing |
| 19:59.45 | JeffM2501 | or something that is blocking outgoing packets |
| 19:59.47 | JeffM2501 | like a firewall |
| 20:00.05 | blast007 | also the map is messed up for the images, cuz they're trying to access E:\home\..... stuff |
| 20:00.23 | person1 | yah i know JeffM2501 is going to host em |
| 20:00.30 | *** join/#bzflag spldart (n=spldart@cpe-67-10-221-4.houston.res.rr.com) |
| 20:00.42 | blast007 | k |
| 20:01.19 | spldart | I get cannot load textures and with the map loaded I cannot 'start' |
| 20:01.41 | blast007 | the textures will be fixed |
| 20:01.45 | spldart | Got global logins |
| 20:01.51 | blast007 | yup, me too |
| 20:02.49 | person1 | so u think it the textures? |
| 20:03.04 | person1 | JeffM2501: firewall is off and router appears to be doing TCP and UDP |
| 20:03.20 | blast007 | no, the textures are just extra stuff, not necessary |
| 20:03.23 | person1 | spldart: it logged u in or what? |
| 20:03.33 | person1 | so then no problem there |
| 20:03.42 | blast007 | I got in, global login approved, but couldn't spawn |
| 20:03.49 | person1 | hmm |
| 20:03.50 | blast007 | when I tried /lagstats, it disconnected |
| 20:04.01 | spldart | hrm... it makes my client extremely slow responsive too |
| 20:04.04 | blast007 | the connection was already closed before lagstats |
| 20:04.09 | spldart | Once I unload the map then I get quick again |
| 20:04.18 | blast007 | what does your +f stuff look like in your config? |
| 20:04.20 | person1 | JeffM2501: any ideas |
| 20:04.29 | person1 | flag stuff? |
| 20:04.31 | blast007 | particularlly things like +f good or +f bad |
| 20:04.38 | person1 | ok hang on |
| 20:04.39 | spldart | I got global login person1... but couldn't start |
| 20:04.49 | person1 | i can connect to it though? |
| 20:04.56 | person1 | #Mandatory flags |
| 20:05.02 | person1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:05.20 | blast007 | hmm |
| 20:05.22 | person1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:05.51 | person1 | all the plusses are not showing up, but there there |
| 20:05.51 | spldart | which key was screenshot? |
| 20:05.51 | person1 | print screen lol |
| 20:05.53 | blast007 | spldart: F5 |
| 20:05.58 | spldart | got it |
| 20:06.07 | person1 | i am running 2.0.5b4 |
| 20:06.08 | blast007 | person1: yeah, the plus signs don't work in CGI:IRC :) |
| 20:06.15 | person1 | k |
| 20:06.32 | blast007 | well, it isn't something like +f good{50} ;) |
| 20:06.54 | person1 | restarted server with a change, please try again if you would |
| 20:06.57 | blast007 | k |
| 20:07.18 | spldart | Not getting past this http://spldart.bakadigital.com:91/bzfi0000.png |
| 20:07.35 | person1 | i saw u try blast |
| 20:07.59 | person1 | spldart: hmmm |
| 20:08.08 | person1 | spldart: then it should do server message |
| 20:09.19 | spldart | I can't message, start or anything myself and I don't get your servers message |
| 20:09.39 | person1 | Anyone have any ideas |
| 20:09.41 | spldart | I've tried as team and automatic and observer |
| 20:11.07 | spldart | Have you tried minimilizing the configuration options? And have you made sure your getting tcp and udp up and down? |
| 20:11.33 | spldart | your playing on your own map fine? |
| 20:11.37 | blast007 | yeah, try commenting out most of your config, except for the parts that make it public |
| 20:11.38 | spldart | What's your bandwidth? |
| 20:11.42 | person1 | yes i am on my own map |
| 20:11.43 | person1 | cable modem |
| 20:11.52 | blast007 | then add them back gradually, and see what breaks it |
| 20:12.07 | JeffM2501 | I'd even start with a random map |
| 20:12.10 | spldart | and if it doesn't fix by minimilizing try another map |
| 20:12.13 | JeffM2501 | just run bzfs -public |
| 20:12.15 | spldart | what jeff said |
| 20:12.16 | JeffM2501 | and see if that works |
| 20:12.19 | person1 | ok |
| 20:12.27 | JeffM2501 | that is the most basic config |
| 20:12.35 | person1 | hang on let me try |
| 20:12.37 | blast007 | change the port too, unless you also forward 5154 |
| 20:13.52 | person1 | it's up |
| 20:13.54 | person1 | try it |
| 20:13.56 | spldart | on port? |
| 20:14.02 | person1 | same port because my redirect is only on that |
| 20:14.06 | spldart | k |
| 20:14.07 | spldart | trying |
| 20:14.22 | *** join/#bzflag BigCheese (n=440d3752@webchat.bzflag.bz) |
| 20:14.39 | person1 | it worked! |
| 20:14.45 | person1 | so take stuff out of config |
| 20:15.12 | spldart | well.. I'm still worrrie about the map myself |
| 20:15.26 | person1 | lol |
| 20:15.28 | person1 | so what |
| 20:15.29 | spldart | I think jeff might have been as well... try your whole config real quick with random map |
| 20:15.36 | person1 | k |
| 20:15.51 | spldart | I believe just comment out -world |
| 20:16.29 | person1 | it's up |
| 20:16.30 | person1 | try it |
| 20:16.33 | person1 | i did that |
| 20:16.44 | *** join/#bzflag snapple (n=440d3752@webchat.bzflag.bz) |
| 20:16.53 | spldart | that's it |
| 20:16.57 | spldart | I'm locked out again.... |
| 20:17.03 | spldart | I can see the map and flags but can't start |
| 20:17.08 | spldart | so it is your configuration |
| 20:17.14 | person1 | same error |
| 20:17.18 | person1 | ya so config |
| 20:17.24 | spldart | same thing but with the random map |
| 20:17.25 | person1 | ok i will change something i think might caz t |
| 20:18.07 | person1 | try again |
| 20:18.26 | person1 | i know whats wrong |
| 20:18.28 | person1 | it works now |
| 20:18.30 | person1 | ty for the help |
| 20:18.43 | person1 | try this one last time |
| 20:19.06 | spldart | when? |
| 20:19.08 | person1 | ok omg |
| 20:19.12 | person1 | it has something to do with flags |
| 20:20.05 | spldart | I believe blast asked about flags |
| 20:20.15 | person1 | yes and i showed them to him |
| 20:20.19 | spldart | I can get to the screen and talk now but no start |
| 20:20.21 | person1 | is there a limit or somthing |
| 20:20.32 | spldart | not sure |
| 20:21.06 | spldart | lemme sample flags from my map |
| 20:21.40 | spldart | sorry if this is considered flood I dunno +f BU{2} +f L{2} +f V{2} +f QT{2} +f F{2} +f MG{2} +f GM{2} +f SB{2} +f IB{2} +f ST{2} +f T{2} +f N{2} +f SH{2} +f SR{2} +f SW{2} +f G{2} +f ID{2} +f CL{2} +f US{2} +f MQ{2} +f SE{2} +f TH{2} +f WG{2} +f CB +f LT +f RT +f FO +f RO +f M +f B +f JM +f WA +f NJ +f TR +f BY +f RC +f A{2} |
| 20:22.16 | spldart | If that was naughty I promise never to do it again Mr. Dev's |
| 20:22.21 | spldart | hehe |
| 20:22.21 | person1 | this is mine f V{5} f QT{5} f F{5} f MG{2} f GM{20} f L{10} f SB{5} f IB{5} f ST{10} f T{2} f N{2} f SH{8} f SW{5} f G{6} f ID{2} f CL{5} f MQ{2} f SE{5} f TH{2} f WG{10} f CB f LT f RT f FO f RO f M f B f JM f WA f NJ f TR f BY f RC f A{2} |
| 20:22.35 | person1 | i see it |
| 20:23.21 | snapple | flags at the end are wrong |
| 20:33.51 | person1 | ? |
| 20:33.54 | person1 | whats wrong |
| 20:34.18 | spldart | I'm getting absolute crap fps on there :confused: |
| 20:35.23 | snapple | same^ |
| 20:35.55 | spldart | I'm getting 1/4 the framerate as I get on LegoLand |
| 20:37.08 | snapple | i was getting about 57 fps |
| 20:37.14 | blast007 | what flag is "BY"? |
| 20:37.22 | blast007 | ah, bouncy? |
| 20:37.36 | snapple | most likey |
| 20:39.33 | person1 | ? |
| 20:39.55 | person1 | bouncy |
| 20:42.45 | *** join/#bzflag TD-Linux (n=TD-Linux@24-159-197-101.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com) |
| 20:42.57 | snapple | the low fps is probably beacuse all the boxes he has |
| 20:43.27 | spldart | gonna tweak by graphics acceleration bbl |
| 20:47.29 | person1 | when i turn off all my flags it works, but i get random flags that slowly grow in # any help |
| 20:49.01 | person1 | n/m |
| 20:49.04 | person1 | figured that out |
| 20:49.16 | *** part/#bzflag snapple (n=440d3752@webchat.bzflag.bz) |
| 20:49.32 | person1 | it works with f V{5} f QT{5} f F{5} f MG{2} f GM{30} |
| 20:49.38 | person1 | then it dies if i add one more |
| 20:49.40 | person1 | why? |
| 20:51.25 | *** join/#bzflag blast007_ (i=1000@24-196-92-143.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com) |
| 20:51.34 | person1 | ok thanks |
| 20:52.31 | person1 | can someone try to connect to my server |
| 20:58.35 | *** join/#bzflag BenUrban (n=benurban@68.49.10.243) |
| 21:08.29 | *** part/#bzflag person1 (n=440d19e6@webchat.bzflag.bz) |
| 21:11.54 | Thumper_ | brlcad: eek |
| 21:12.20 | *** join/#bzflag spldart (n=spldart@cpe-67-10-221-4.houston.res.rr.com) |
| 21:12.45 | brlcad | it's been going since early yesterday near full steam apparently |
| 21:16.30 | *** part/#bzflag ToughShooter (n=ts@p54B03777.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 21:18.23 | Thumper_ | brlcad: killed it. |
| 21:19.04 | brlcad | any idea on the cause? |
| 21:19.14 | brlcad | and why the bzfs is running hot? |
| 21:19.18 | Thumper_ | yeah... it's running bzadmin that went nuts |
| 21:19.32 | brlcad | ah |
| 21:20.01 | Thumper_ | it's supposed to reload the masterban list when the banlist changes |
| 21:20.08 | Thumper_ | but sometimes bzadmin gets 'lost' and loops |
| 21:20.24 | Thumper_ | I should put a cpulimit on that job |
| 21:20.39 | Thumper_ | since it shouldn't take long to do the work and exit |
| 21:27.38 | *** join/#bzflag person1 (n=440d19e6@webchat.bzflag.bz) |
| 21:27.52 | person1 | can someone plz help me test my server |
| 21:27.56 | person1 | and get it running online |
| 21:28.14 | person1 | is there some sort of flag limit or something |
| 21:28.21 | person1 | because the flags are screwing it up |
| 21:28.54 | person1 | anyone? |
| 21:36.43 | person1 | can someone try and join my server |
| 21:36.49 | person1 | can someone speak! |
| 21:37.31 | brlcad | patience young one |
| 21:37.44 | person1 | been here for awhile |
| 21:37.52 | person1 | can u help me |
| 21:38.07 | person1 | try to join 68.13.25.230:5138 |
| 21:39.01 | person1 | ?? |
| 21:39.20 | brad2901 | ~bzfquery 68.13.25.230:5138 |
| 21:39.26 | brlcad | 12 minutes isn't a long time |
| 21:39.45 | person1 | ? |
| 21:39.48 | person1 | thats cool |
| 21:39.54 | person1 | ~bzfquery 68.13.25.230:5138 |
| 21:40.19 | brlcad | it shows it can connect, and who's on that server |
| 21:40.34 | person1 | i see that |
| 21:40.38 | person1 | can u try and connect |
| 21:40.49 | person1 | caz every can then it kicks em right away |
| 21:41.43 | brlcad | i can't try from here |
| 21:42.32 | person1 | is there anyone eles in here who could try to connect ot my server (68.13.25.230:5138) |
| 21:42.39 | brlcad | does it all work find if you remove some of the flags? |
| 21:42.48 | brlcad | s/find/fine/ |
| 21:43.11 | gsnedders | how do you learn that stuff? :P |
| 21:43.25 | brlcad | learn what stuff? |
| 21:43.54 | person1 | ~bzfquery 68.13.25.230:5138 |
| 21:51.51 | CIA-2 | BZFlag: 03menotume 07v2_0branch * 10bzflag/plugins/nagware/ (CHANGELOG.txt nagware.cpp): nagware plugin: send info message to requesting player, not all players. |
| 21:52.11 | CIA-2 | BZFlag: 03menotume * 10bzflag/plugins/nagware/ (CHANGELOG.txt nagware.cpp): nagware plugin: send info message to requesting player, not all players. |
| 22:10.20 | *** join/#bzflag TimRiker (n=timr@rikers.org) |
| 22:10.21 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o TimRiker] by ChanServ |
| 22:10.52 | CIA-2 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 07v2_0branch * 10bzflag/include/bzfsAPI.h: stricmp, not stricomp |
| 22:11.23 | CIA-2 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 07v2_0branch * 10bzflag/plugins/vc71/plugins.sln: build nagware as part of default plugins on windows |
| 22:11.41 | JeffM2501 | menotume, that means it'll be part of the next beta binary |
| 22:12.44 | menotume | ahh, and tanks :) |
| 22:13.26 | JeffM2501 | and it did build |
| 22:13.30 | JeffM2501 | other then your float warnings |
| 22:14.48 | menotume | hmm |
| 22:15.08 | JeffM2501 | it's just typecasting stuff |
| 22:15.22 | menotume | ohhh |
| 22:15.32 | JeffM2501 | like in VC7 and higher, a sise_t is not an unsigned int |
| 22:15.53 | JeffM2501 | and a double is not a float |
| 22:15.56 | menotume | (int)((playerTime - m->time) / m->repeat) ? |
| 22:16.02 | JeffM2501 | no |
| 22:16.04 | menotume | oh geez |
| 22:16.21 | JeffM2501 | there were just 2 |
| 22:16.22 | menotume | i just love how non-sensical checking is done sometimes :) |
| 22:16.27 | CIA-2 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 07v2_0branch * 10bzflag/plugins/nagware/nagware.cpp: typecasts |
| 22:16.32 | menotume | :) |
| 22:16.35 | menotume | tanks again |
| 22:16.41 | JeffM2501 | vc7.1 got way way more C++ compliant |
| 22:16.49 | JeffM2501 | so it warns on a lot of stuff |
| 22:18.54 | menotume | gotya |
| 22:19.22 | *** join/#bzflag kyelewis` (n=kyelewis@203.41.13.158) |
| 22:20.29 | TD-Linux | hmm.... looks like my copy of TortoiseCVS is broken on anonymous |
| 22:21.31 | TD-Linux | ~bzcvs |
| 22:21.33 | ibot | cvs -d :pserver:anonymous@cvs.bzflag.org:/cvsroot/bzflag co -P -r v2_0branch bzflag |
| 22:32.19 | *** join/#bzflag homer23 (n=407a1145@webchat.bzflag.bz) |
| 22:32.26 | homer23 | hello |
| 22:32.34 | homer23 | hi |
| 22:32.51 | menotume | homer, dood, hi! where have you been ? |
| 22:32.56 | homer23 | hey menotume |
| 22:33.06 | homer23 | hey menotume |
| 22:34.05 | menotume | who's homer ? :P |
| 22:34.31 | menotume | oops, back button |
| 22:34.42 | brad2901 | hehe |
| 22:41.55 | CIA-2 | BZFlag: 03bthansen 07v2_0branch * 10bzflag/ (ChangeLog src/bzfs/commands.cxx): Allow selective /reload of databases |
| 22:50.42 | *** join/#bzflag kyelewis` (n=kyelewis@freematrix/staff/kyelewis) |
| 23:31.56 | CIA-2 | opencombat: 03jeffm2501 * 10GPx01/ (client/inc/game.h client/src/game.cpp net/inc/netMessages.h): start geting the base game class to handle the connection messages |
| 23:36.30 | *** join/#bzflag spldart (n=james@cpe-67-10-221-4.houston.res.rr.com) |
| 23:38.22 | Deepa | to use, 2.0.2 or 2.0.4? |
| 23:42.59 | Deepa | ~bzfquery armchairs.be:5154 |
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