| 00:00.24 | cybo-mobile | thanks SilverFox |
| 00:00.35 | SilverFox | cybo-mobile, orange has suggested a webpage just for registration which lays it out clearly, and doesn't look like the forum (even though you'd still be registering for both) |
| 00:00.42 | blast007 | that's why running a strip on them is recommended ;) |
| 00:00.59 | spldart | last time I ran a strip they became non functional |
| 00:01.00 | SilverFox | spldart, probably not. |
| 00:01.02 | spldart | :( |
| 00:01.13 | blast007 | spldart: I run strip on mine all the time |
| 00:01.16 | SilverFox | spldart, all that is necessary is the bzfs binary. |
| 00:01.22 | spldart | umm |
| 00:01.24 | cybo-mobile | SilverFox, as an avid player (RedDog) and being in the IT field, it does seem hard to find. |
| 00:01.25 | blast007 | the binary is 20MB though |
| 00:01.36 | spldart | can they be stripped outside their home directory? |
| 00:01.47 | blast007 | you can cp it somewhere, and strip that to test it |
| 00:01.49 | SilverFox | oh. What does "strip" do? |
| 00:02.11 | SilverFox | strip - Discard symbols from object files. |
| 00:02.12 | blast007 | "strip - Discard symbols from object files." |
| 00:02.15 | blast007 | heh |
| 00:02.29 | SilverFox | hrmm... why are they there if they aren't important? |
| 00:02.29 | spldart | can someone quote me a line to run in terminal.... say bzfs is in /home/bz/bzfs/bzfs |
| 00:02.34 | blast007 | for debugging |
| 00:02.41 | spldart | let's say I goto bzfs directory |
| 00:02.58 | spldart | do I type at #strip bzfs ? |
| 00:03.03 | SilverFox | bzfs -p 5154 |
| 00:03.09 | blast007 | yeah |
| 00:03.15 | blast007 | strip bzfs |
| 00:03.18 | spldart | okies |
| 00:03.23 | spldart | lemme try this |
| 00:03.41 | SilverFox | does running strip change the footprint of bzfs? |
| 00:04.10 | spldart | now that makes it' 1,335 |
| 00:04.14 | blast007 | it makes it a heck of a lot smaller |
| 00:04.54 | spldart | bzfs2.1 becomes 1,359 |
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| 00:05.40 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o JeffM2501] by ChanServ |
| 00:05.46 | spldart | at this stage I can discard, in my case move to archive elsewhere, the bzflag build directory in its entirety correct? I don't need to run bzfs |
| 00:06.00 | cybo-mobile | Blast! it seems cybodog is registerd but with an old email address. |
| 00:06.11 | spldart | err... I don't need it to run my two versions of bzfs |
| 00:06.29 | SilverFox | what's the point of stripping? It doesn't look like it changes the footprint. |
| 00:06.32 | cybo-mobile | any hope of changing that email address for my nick cybodog ? |
| 00:06.43 | blast007 | it takes up less space |
| 00:07.07 | blast007 | cybo-mobile: can you log in to it? |
| 00:07.12 | blast007 | (the forum name) |
| 00:07.21 | blast007 | if so, you can change that in the profile page |
| 00:07.22 | cybo-mobile | not so far, but I have a few more to try yet |
| 00:09.02 | Cybodog | well, no, I can not log into it at all, You have specified an incorrect or inactive username, or an invalid password. |
| 00:09.23 | spldart | if it works I highly recommend stripping.... if you have the body for it...err uh I mean 20 meg to the size of a floppy is alot of saved space |
| 00:09.25 | spldart | x2 |
| 00:09.29 | spldart | in my case |
| 00:09.30 | Cybodog | But I would be vary surprised if someone else used that nick in bzflag EVER |
| 00:09.55 | blast007 | hmm |
| 00:10.14 | Cybodog | no posts for cybodog |
| 00:10.56 | Birdie | brlcad ping |
| 00:11.49 | Cybodog | is the registrater supposed to email me a conformation? |
| 00:12.01 | blast007 | yes |
| 00:12.19 | Cybodog | oh, well, that is the issue then, it has not yet done so. |
| 00:13.14 | spldart | I was going to share the same world and banfile between the two bzfs's... but seperate .conf, report and logfile's Sound like a plan? |
| 00:14.56 | SilverFox | blast007, just less space on the hard drive? |
| 00:16.54 | blast007 | I'm not sure what all it does |
| 00:16.57 | SilverFox | spldart, that's similar to what silvercat has. Works nicely. |
| 00:17.20 | blast007 | I just do it cuz I only have 3GB of space on my linux box ;) |
| 00:17.47 | wegstar | :) |
| 00:22.46 | spldart | thanks silverfox |
| 00:24.23 | DTRemenak | Cybodog: there is no user by the name of cybodog |
| 00:24.42 | Cybodog | interesing |
| 00:24.50 | DTRemenak | you should be able to register it |
| 00:24.56 | Cybodog | I will try to regiser again |
| 00:26.03 | Cybodog | ahhh, it does NOT like the fact that I am using the same email address |
| 00:26.24 | DTRemenak | that's likely |
| 00:26.45 | Cybodog | fixed it with a bogus email that I will get |
| 00:27.25 | Cybodog | funny thing is, after RTFM all day, I dont want to RTFM anymore |
| 00:27.42 | Cybodog | I let what I think I see get in the way of reading |
| 00:30.47 | Cybodog | Ok, I AM an idiot, now I have registerd but as a minor |
| 00:32.01 | SilverFox | Exception in thread "main" java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError: /usr/local/src/java/j2re1.4.2_10/lib/i386/libawt.so: libXp.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
| 00:32.21 | SilverFox | I don't anyting about java. |
| 00:32.36 | JeffM2501 | Cybodog, /msg me the proper e-mail and I'll just fix it |
| 00:33.20 | SilverFox | Is TimRiker the java guru? |
| 00:34.03 | Cybodog | JeffM2501, done. |
| 00:34.17 | Cybodog | sorry but playing bzflag and doing this |
| 00:47.05 | SilverFox | trying to set up bzstats, but there doesn't seem to be a lot of detail in the docs. |
| 00:54.05 | blast007 | doesn't seem to be a very active module ;) |
| 00:54.28 | blast007 | there's only the initial checkins and no addition commits |
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| 01:04.08 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o TimRiker] by ChanServ |
| 01:05.16 | SilverFox | yeah. Just wanted to try it. |
| 01:05.48 | TimRiker | SilverFox: java? uh, no. I program in java at work now, but I would not call myself a guru. |
| 01:07.15 | SilverFox | apparently needs xlibs. Does this have to run in X? |
| 01:07.20 | SilverFox | yup. |
| 01:07.25 | SilverFox | well, that's lame. |
| 01:08.16 | menotume | i did a bunch w/java 3 years ago |
| 01:08.33 | menotume | SilverFox: yes, it uses awt |
| 01:08.41 | menotume | (window gui) |
| 01:09.18 | menotume | 'advanced' window something-or-other |
| 01:09.28 | menotume | toolkit |
| 01:15.27 | SilverFox | um... so I just did this in ms-windows... |
| 01:15.32 | SilverFox | it doesn't open a gui at all. |
| 01:15.40 | SilverFox | yet, on linux xlibs is a requisite?!? |
| 01:15.57 | SilverFox | I like what it does. Its cool. |
| 01:17.40 | brlcad | Birdie: pong |
| 01:22.17 | SilverFox | TimRiker, I didn't see you join. |
| 01:23.30 | SilverFox | TimRiker, do you know much about bzstats? I'd like to use it, but it seems to require a connect to a X11 window (which I don't have) |
| 01:23.53 | SilverFox | Is there an option to avoid that? It doesn't seem to use a gui, so I don't know why it wants the window. |
| 01:24.26 | menotume | oh, it probably uses awt for the chanrting / graphics output |
| 01:24.37 | menotume | probably needed to create the pngs |
| 01:25.06 | SilverFox | makes sense. It does pie graphs. |
| 01:42.46 | TimRiker | SilverFox: nope. not used it. |
| 01:42.55 | Cosmol | does anyone have some bzstat output online somewhere, i am curios |
| 01:45.36 | TimRiker | SilverFox: I just checked it in. There is also a bzstats sf project. it has some examples. |
| 01:45.54 | TimRiker | http://sourceforge.net/project/screenshots.php?group_id=130968&ssid=7961 |
| 01:46.32 | brlcad | heh, cute |
| 01:46.50 | brlcad | feel like i need to wrap that up in powerpoint and show it to some boss of mine |
| 01:47.04 | Cosmol | neato |
| 01:47.19 | spldart | hehe |
| 01:48.03 | SilverFox | TimRiker, you get my message? |
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| 01:56.33 | *** part/#bzflag Cybodog (n=damon-mo@ip68-97-157-156.ok.ok.cox.net) |
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| 02:04.32 | spldart | ALLLLRRIIIIIGGGHHHTTTYYYY THHHHEEENNN |
| 02:05.06 | spldart | How many changes to conf files and map files rules/layout has there been |
| 02:05.20 | spldart | the new bzfs doesn't like my world or conf file as they are :( |
| 02:05.33 | spldart | running louman rabbit chase on either one |
| 02:15.53 | spldart | grr... I got screen figured out... just as easy as you guys said... but I can't get bzfs's running |
| 02:16.25 | Tupone | brlcad is there ? |
| 02:16.51 | brlcad | never! |
| 02:17.12 | Tupone | :) |
| 02:17.17 | Tupone | hola senor |
| 02:17.43 | Tupone | have you seen my message about anti-stuck code ? |
| 02:17.46 | TimRiker | SilverFox: yes. I replied above. |
| 02:18.12 | brlcad | this one |
| 02:18.12 | brlcad | 03:55 <+Tupone> brlcad: a segv at joining :) |
| 02:18.12 | brlcad | 03:56 <+Tupone> LocalPlayer.cxx:446 obstacle is NULL |
| 02:18.25 | Tupone | yep, but that is more that is not written |
| 02:18.26 | brlcad | i think dtr fixed it |
| 02:18.37 | Tupone | s/that/there/ |
| 02:19.33 | Tupone | I have partially understood your changes. I want to let you know why I made that kind of code, so you know if you have solved all the problem I tried to solve |
| 02:19.54 | brlcad | i didn't try to change the logic |
| 02:20.02 | brlcad | just instead of counting frames, count with timekeeper |
| 02:20.10 | brlcad | if logic changed, that wasn't intentional |
| 02:21.05 | Tupone | what happened is that when you are contemporary inside 2 object you get normal from one object and normal from other object. Sometime you wave fastly |
| 02:21.43 | Tupone | has you get movement force without being unstucked on two opposite side. |
| 02:22.04 | Tupone | As this cause a lot of a message in the net I tryied to put a limit |
| 02:22.23 | Tupone | bad cure for a bad simptoms |
| 02:22.37 | Tupone | ~spell simptoms |
| 02:22.53 | brlcad | i remember it getting added, it was an improvement over the problems back then |
| 02:22.55 | brlcad | that was pre 2 |
| 02:23.29 | Tupone | pre 2 ? dunno, antistuck code as not changed so much |
| 02:24.33 | Tupone | so, if you think your code solve that problem, at least limiting the vibration, is ok to me |
| 02:25.07 | Tupone | I should see the new code then, I didn't get in e-mail :/ |
| 02:25.25 | brlcad | i took an average, 100 frames being somewhere between 5 seconds and .1 seconds over a bell curve probably |
| 02:25.32 | brlcad | .5 seemed a decent middle |
| 02:25.52 | brlcad | or regardless, after half a sec, if i'm stuck, i hope I start moving |
| 02:26.20 | brlcad | i'll have to think through the rest of the code some more, then |
| 02:27.38 | Tupone | if you think he again move it, is ok. I did not tested it. I don't remember the world |
| 02:28.34 | brlcad | i'll just have to try to get myself stuck maybe |
| 02:30.04 | *** mode/#bzflag [+v brad2901] by TimRiker |
| 02:30.15 | *** mode/#bzflag [+v SilverFox] by TimRiker |
| 02:30.32 | *** mode/#bzflag [+v SportChick] by TimRiker |
| 02:30.38 | *** mode/#bzflag [+v trepan] by TimRiker |
| 02:31.52 | TimRiker | whois SportChick |
| 02:31.55 | TimRiker | eep. |
| 02:32.50 | spldart | would someone be so kind as to send me a bzadmin for the 2.1 test bzfs? |
| 02:33.10 | Tupone | spldart: windows? |
| 02:33.13 | TimRiker | might help if you said what OS |
| 02:35.32 | spldart | yeppers |
| 02:35.34 | spldart | winders |
| 02:35.53 | spldart | I have bzadmin to work with 2.0 client but it crashes with 2.1 client |
| 02:39.24 | brad2901 | it doesn't crash... the versions are incompatible |
| 02:40.13 | spldart | I'm not trying to be as accurate as I can with what is happening... the bzadmin closes the faux dos box right after opening with shortcut because they are not compatible |
| 02:40.14 | spldart | ;) |
| 02:40.39 | brad2901 | :) |
| 02:40.42 | blast007 | run it from the command prompt ;) |
| 02:44.33 | spldart | I still need a 2.1 bzadmin.. :( |
| 02:44.43 | brad2901 | me too |
| 02:44.57 | spldart | :( |
| 02:44.58 | brad2901 | need a client aswell actually ;) |
| 02:45.07 | spldart | ? |
| 02:45.09 | brad2901 | I can only get bzfs to compile |
| 02:45.16 | spldart | really? |
| 02:45.19 | brad2901 | yes |
| 02:45.28 | blast007 | I can try building quick |
| 02:45.37 | brad2901 | yay :) |
| 02:45.39 | brad2901 | thanks |
| 02:46.11 | blast007 | not sure if it will be curses or not, but I'll try to get that |
| 02:47.07 | spldart | I got 2.1 client built on my dually but I've never built for windows before :( |
| 02:47.20 | spldart | 2.1 linux client built but not winders |
| 02:48.28 | spldart | how do you reload your masterbanlist? |
| 02:48.54 | brad2901 | /masterban reload |
| 02:49.44 | spldart | I must have had every combination of master, ban, reload and list tried except that :( |
| 02:49.46 | spldart | thanks :) |
| 02:49.54 | brad2901 | heh |
| 02:50.11 | blast007 | /? is helpful too |
| 02:50.21 | blast007 | shows you all the commands |
| 02:50.40 | blast007 | and I think you can do like /ba? to get commands that start with 'ba' |
| 02:51.40 | spldart | ah kew lemmee try.... back online with 2.0 server... now tryint 2.1 |
| 02:53.21 | spldart | woohooo battlestar galactica part 2 of cliffhanger episode is about to start :) |
| 02:54.01 | blast007 | part 2? darn... |
| 02:54.35 | blast007 | or wait, that's the last one from last season, right? |
| 02:55.16 | spldart | this should be the continuation of the standoff between battlestars |
| 02:55.23 | spldart | suppossed to be new |
| 02:55.35 | spldart | I hope it is... they said Jan6 for all new episode |
| 02:55.55 | spldart | bzfs2.1 isn't working :( troubleshooting |
| 02:56.38 | blast007 | woah, 2.1 client just crashed on me |
| 02:56.50 | blast007 | was on the server for about 15 seconds :) |
| 02:57.28 | spldart | what server? |
| 02:59.17 | blast007 | bzflag.game-host.org |
| 03:00.40 | spldart | WOOOHOOOOO |
| 03:01.00 | spldart | BATTLESTAR GALATCICA IS STARTINg and BZFS 2.1 server is running!!! |
| 03:01.54 | spldart | ~bzfquery spldart.bakadigital.com:5154 |
| 03:01.58 | SportChick | tim: who whois'ed me? |
| 03:02.13 | spldart | ~bzfquery spldart.bakadigital.com:5155 |
| 03:02.23 | spldart | 0026??? |
| 03:02.30 | blast007 | well, the 3D client seems to crash on any server, even if I don't do anything |
| 03:02.39 | spldart | shouldn't that be different for a 2.1 server? |
| 03:02.46 | blast007 | 0034 |
| 03:02.49 | blast007 | it should be that |
| 03:02.54 | spldart | ummm |
| 03:03.00 | spldart | crap |
| 03:03.18 | blast007 | on the 2.1 one: bzfs -version |
| 03:03.27 | spldart | k |
| 03:04.32 | spldart | crap.. it shows 2.0.5 |
| 03:04.40 | spldart | I are teh confused |
| 03:05.08 | spldart | I did a cvs without the branch 2_0 thingy |
| 03:07.36 | wizatcomputer | spldart: 2.0.5 is fine |
| 03:08.04 | wizatcomputer | that's the latest (dev) in the 2_0branch |
| 03:08.16 | blast007 | http://bz.porteighty.org/downloads/bzadmin-2.1.6-20050106-curses.zip |
| 03:08.21 | blast007 | let me know if that works |
| 03:08.46 | blast007 | 2.0.5 is the v2_0branch |
| 03:08.51 | blast007 | 2.1.6 is without anything |
| 03:08.54 | blast007 | or with HEAD |
| 03:09.35 | blast007 | the 3D client won't be posted right now, since it is broken ;) |
| 03:09.58 | blast007 | at least for me |
| 03:11.33 | spldart | well... I have a 2.0.5 client I got with the v2_0 branch download from cvs |
| 03:11.50 | spldart | and I have a 2.0.5 client I built without the v2_0 part |
| 03:11.55 | spldart | I'm confuzzled |
| 03:12.05 | spldart | lemme check my cvs's again |
| 03:12.14 | spldart | wait... |
| 03:12.31 | wizatcomputer | spldart: 2.0.5 is what you wanted |
| 03:12.32 | spldart | I know they aren't the same exact version since they were slightly different file sizes |
| 03:12.44 | blast007 | wizatcomputer: he wants them both |
| 03:12.47 | spldart | I wanted to run a latest 2.0 and an experimental 2.1 |
| 03:12.50 | wizatcomputer | ah |
| 03:13.01 | wizatcomputer | 2.0.5 is the latest "2.0" |
| 03:13.06 | spldart | yep.. |
| 03:13.10 | spldart | but still want a 2.1 |
| 03:13.16 | spldart | to play around with |
| 03:19.09 | Tupone | spldart: what you did to get the 2.1 again? |
| 03:19.19 | Tupone | or tryinh to get |
| 03:21.54 | spldart | l |
| 03:22.01 | spldart | did the usual cvs line for login |
| 03:22.06 | spldart | then the other line that grabs the files |
| 03:22.17 | spldart | but I left off the 2_0 version stuff |
| 03:22.24 | spldart | lemme look for my notes |
| 03:22.40 | spldart | got it... |
| 03:23.05 | Tupone | then the other line that grabs the files? what line ? |
| 03:23.24 | spldart | " cvs -z3 -d:pserver:anonymous@cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/bzflag co bzflag |
| 03:23.30 | spldart | some thing like that |
| 03:23.40 | Tupone | but where? same directory? |
| 03:23.43 | blast007 | hrm...and it doesn't crash in debug mode... |
| 03:23.57 | spldart | on my machine? |
| 03:23.59 | spldart | no |
| 03:24.05 | Tupone | a new one? |
| 03:24.42 | spldart | I grabbed those files and pu them into bzflag... realized they wer the newer version... moved them to a bzflagtest directory then deleted the old bzflag directory and did the cvs download again |
| 03:25.19 | Tupone | look at src/date/buildDate.cxx for 2.0.5 or 2.1.6 |
| 03:25.20 | spldart | so I got and built suppossed new version first then built the latest stable after |
| 03:25.27 | spldart | Okies |
| 03:25.56 | Tupone | file is very short |
| 03:26.33 | spldart | where in this am I looking? |
| 03:27.03 | spldart | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:27.15 | Tupone | that is the 2.1 tree |
| 03:27.57 | spldart | I built one of the bzfs's out of this directory.... |
| 03:28.09 | spldart | I'm getting inredibly confused |
| 03:28.24 | blast007 | so do a "src/bzfs/bzfs -version" from the root of that checkout |
| 03:29.34 | spldart | I'll have to put that directory back on server.... I pulled the two build directories out leaving only copies of the bzfs's behind when I finished builds |
| 03:32.04 | Tupone | spldart: /path/where/you/put/newbzfs/bzfs -version |
| 03:32.52 | spldart | I had to move it from windows back to linux server |
| 03:33.48 | spldart | crap.. 2.0.5 |
| 03:34.46 | blast007 | can you just download 2.1 again, and recompile? |
| 03:35.29 | orchid | ~dub |
| 03:37.47 | *** part/#bzflag Tupone (n=Tupone@pdpc/supporter/active/Tupone) |
| 03:45.47 | spldart | I'm going to do that... Can someone quote me the line for getting 2.1 please? |
| 03:46.33 | brad2901 | ~bzcvs |
| 03:46.35 | ibot | cvs -d :pserver:anonymous@cvs.bzflag.org:/cvsroot/bzflag co -P -r v2_0branch bzflag |
| 03:46.45 | brad2901 | take out the -r v2_0branch |
| 03:47.10 | spldart | okies |
| 03:47.13 | spldart | thanks |
| 03:53.17 | spldart | Ok... re downloading from cvs |
| 03:54.32 | spldart | autogen |
| 03:57.25 | spldart | crap.... starbuck ordered to shoot admiral Cane in teh head :eek: |
| 04:06.09 | spldart | make |
| 04:08.02 | spldart | god I love my new workstation configuration :) |
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| 04:15.47 | mejobloggs | hi, I am playing on silvercat server, and it says i have to register |
| 04:16.02 | mejobloggs | if i try and register, I get : this username has been disallowed |
| 04:16.14 | Mr_Molez | `register at http://my.bzflag.org/bb |
| 04:16.45 | mejobloggs | yeah, but..... |
| 04:16.58 | JeffM2501 | what name are you atempting to use? |
| 04:17.11 | mejobloggs | mejobloggs (NZ) |
| 04:17.23 | JeffM2501 | then that name is disallowed for some reason |
| 04:17.26 | JeffM2501 | I'd pick another |
| 04:17.30 | mejobloggs | noooo |
| 04:17.35 | JeffM2501 | yeeeeees |
| 04:17.51 | *** join/#bzflag TimRiker (n=timr@pdpc/supporter/bronze/TimRiker) |
| 04:17.52 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o TimRiker] by ChanServ |
| 04:18.21 | JeffM2501 | you can't have the () |
| 04:18.22 | mejobloggs | heh, ok |
| 04:18.24 | JeffM2501 | take that out |
| 04:18.32 | JeffM2501 | you don't need your team in your name |
| 04:18.40 | mejobloggs | erm, now Failed sending email :: PHP :: |
| 04:18.44 | mejobloggs | its my country |
| 04:18.48 | Mr_Molez | and register at http://my.bzflag.org/bb its safer than /register :P |
| 04:18.58 | JeffM2501 | we need a valid e-mail addy |
| 04:19.21 | mejobloggs | it is valid |
| 04:19.31 | JeffM2501 | not if we could not send mail to it |
| 04:19.35 | mejobloggs | argh, now: Sorry, but that e-mail address is already registered to a user. |
| 04:20.05 | mejobloggs | nono, the email IS valid |
| 04:20.17 | mejobloggs | and i didnt make a typo |
| 04:20.20 | JeffM2501 | I removed the acount try again |
| 04:21.52 | mejobloggs | Sorry, but that e-mail address is already registered to a user. |
| 04:22.08 | mejobloggs | mejobloggs NZ is the username |
| 04:22.49 | JeffM2501 | nope, not showing any users by that name anymore |
| 04:23.31 | mejobloggs | would I have to refresh or anything? |
| 04:23.46 | JeffM2501 | probably |
| 04:23.58 | JeffM2501 | what is the name suposed to mean? |
| 04:24.50 | mejobloggs | er, what does your name mean? |
| 04:24.57 | mejobloggs | does it have to mean anything? |
| 04:25.04 | mejobloggs | still getting that error |
| 04:25.06 | JeffM2501 | it's my name and a special number |
| 04:25.14 | JeffM2501 | dono man |
| 04:25.21 | JeffM2501 | may want to try another e-mail |
| 04:25.26 | mejobloggs | hmf |
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| 04:28.06 | Rounin | Hi! I'm not getting any sound on Linux... The sound volume is listed as "unavailable" even if the device is free... Anyone know how to fix it? |
| 04:28.43 | JeffM2501 | something else is using the card |
| 04:28.44 | JeffM2501 | or SDL can't find it |
| 04:28.48 | Rounin | Which it isn't |
| 04:28.54 | Rounin | Aha |
| 04:29.17 | JeffM2501 | you have a window manager sound system? |
| 04:29.26 | Rounin | I wish I knew |
| 04:29.35 | JeffM2501 | you need to find out |
| 04:29.41 | Rounin | My guess is no, I'm using gnome |
| 04:29.51 | Mr_Molez | i have a problem with the drivers for my sound card on linux only allowing 1 thing to play (usually kde or something takes that up) doing /etc/init.d/alsa restart makes it work |
| 04:29.56 | Rounin | I also tried lsof | grep /dev/audio and /dev/dsp and nothing's using it |
| 04:30.23 | JeffM2501 | you have alsa or oss or esd as a sound system |
| 04:30.34 | Rounin | alsa |
| 04:30.52 | JeffM2501 | you may need to tell bzflag to use alsa |
| 04:30.56 | Rounin | I did |
| 04:31.02 | JeffM2501 | did you restart the game? |
| 04:31.02 | Rounin | I'm not asking just for fun you know :) |
| 04:31.14 | Rounin | I'm asking because it's supposed to be working and it's not :) |
| 04:31.20 | JeffM2501 | it's hard to say |
| 04:31.26 | JeffM2501 | there are no known "bugs" with it |
| 04:31.31 | JeffM2501 | but sound on linux is picky |
| 04:31.34 | JeffM2501 | very picky |
| 04:31.45 | Rounin | It works everywhere else though... Could be SDL I suppose |
| 04:31.49 | JeffM2501 | we just use SDL for sound, so if it says unavail then SDL can't find it |
| 04:31.55 | JeffM2501 | it could be your SDL build |
| 04:32.06 | Rounin | Ah... Well, thanks, I guess I'll go with that |
| 04:35.22 | Rounin | There wasn't even a libsdl-sound there |
| 04:35.28 | Rounin | I guess I'll try installing that first :P |
| 04:36.30 | JeffM2501 | that could help |
| 04:36.42 | Rounin | Perhaps someone forgot to list it as a dependency |
| 04:37.03 | Rounin | It's ubuntu linux, so I don't think they're eager to maintain games packages |
| 04:37.04 | JeffM2501 | depends on the build |
| 04:37.21 | JeffM2501 | it may nor may not need it, if it's not built with sdl it dosnt' need it |
| 04:37.26 | JeffM2501 | they may not have known |
| 04:37.29 | Rounin | Hm. |
| 04:38.01 | Rounin | Nah, it still couldn't find the audio device |
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| 04:48.58 | spldart | happened again. |
| 04:49.33 | spldart | just finished a build leaving out the -r v2_0branch part and did a version in the src/bzfs |
| 04:49.39 | spldart | 2.0.5 |
| 04:49.54 | spldart | protocol 0026 |
| 04:50.01 | spldart | I don't understand |
| 04:50.33 | spldart | how am I not getting the latest unreleased 2.1 ? |
| 04:50.33 | SportChick | listserv is down? |
| 04:50.54 | spldart | hrm... |
| 04:50.57 | spldart | seems to be so |
| 04:51.18 | spldart | can't get listserv here either |
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| 04:51.56 | *** mode/#bzflag [+v DTRemenak] by ChanServ |
| 04:51.56 | JeffM2501 | it hapens some times |
| 04:51.58 | JeffM2501 | gets flooded |
| 04:54.01 | spldart | Any idea how I can leave out the v2_0branch part and still end up with a 2.0.5 bzfs JeffM? |
| 04:54.13 | spldart | I'd really like to tinker around with 2.1 |
| 04:54.33 | brlcad | ~ping my.bzflag.org |
| 04:54.37 | ibot | pong my.bzflag.org |
| 04:54.58 | spldart | Put 'screen' on my server just to run multiple instances of bzfs and still have a terminal window. |
| 04:55.22 | spldart | Heck... I finally finished some of my configuration work on apache while waiting for builds to finish :( |
| 04:55.26 | brlcad | list server back online in a sec |
| 04:56.22 | DiamondInDaRough | got a lot of pache threads running |
| 04:56.34 | DiamondInDaRough | ahhh, looks betterer |
| 04:57.50 | spldart | yay |
| 04:58.06 | brlcad | ~bzflist |
| 04:58.15 | brlcad | there we go |
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| 05:05.11 | spldart | anyone? |
| 05:05.25 | DTRemenak | me! |
| 05:05.27 | DTRemenak | for what? |
| 05:07.43 | spldart | was wondering if anyone can figure why I can't get the 2.1 stuff off of cvs :confused: |
| 05:08.17 | DTRemenak | follow the instructions on the cvs page on sf |
| 05:09.23 | DTRemenak | http://sourceforge.net/cvs/?group_id=3248 |
| 05:09.25 | spldart | I've been doing my best to follow instructions :( |
| 05:09.40 | DTRemenak | make sure you're not trying to check it out to the same place you checked out 2.0 |
| 05:10.42 | spldart | ? |
| 05:11.11 | spldart | I've deleted all my projects and ran the lines as I see them on the page you just linked and no go... I end up with 2.0.5 |
| 05:12.23 | spldart | It just doesn't make sense ath with or without 2_0 version thingy I would end up getting 2.0.5 yet the bzfs 's aren't EXACTLY the same size |
| 05:13.32 | spldart | browsing cvs dir's now |
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| 05:23.04 | spldart | shouldn't I be able to find both 2.0 and 2.1 src/bzfs/bzfs's in the cvs files ? |
| 05:23.19 | spldart | online browsing bzflag @ cvs |
| 05:24.26 | spldart | and was is the emerge thingy I'm reading in the 2.0.5 bzfs dir at sourceforge c? |
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| 05:35.55 | spldart | wait..... |
| 05:36.25 | spldart | how do I tell linux to not associate an old install of bzflag from the newer bzfs's? |
| 05:36.55 | orange | learner: brlcad: ping |
| 05:37.02 | orange | JeffM2501: ping |
| 05:37.11 | spldart | I went to /usr/local/bin/bzfs and rm bzfs |
| 05:37.20 | spldart | now when I'm in my game directories |
| 05:37.25 | TimRiker | hey... watch that |
| 05:37.29 | TimRiker | s/that/this |
| 05:37.33 | TimRiker | hey... watch that |
| 05:37.37 | TimRiker | s/that/this/ |
| 05:37.47 | Mr_Molez | spldart: give them different names/locations ? |
| 05:39.04 | spldart | -/home/bzuser/bzfsold/bzfs and -/home/bzuser/bzfsnew/bzfs and do -version I get no such file or directory |
| 05:39.19 | spldart | But there is indeed a bzfs in both of those directories |
| 05:40.00 | JeffM2501 | ? |
| 05:40.02 | Mr_Molez | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:40.04 | SilverFox | TimRiker, sorry, I presumed that when I said X, you would know I'm talking about linux. Debian Sarge. |
| 05:40.06 | spldart | is it possible that no matter what directory I'm in or go to that it gave me the version # for the one in /usr/local/bin |
| 05:40.56 | spldart | and perhaps moreso... no matter what I aimed at it RAN the bzfs in /usr/local/bin instead of the one I just built and custom placed in a directory |
| 05:41.48 | Mr_Molez | if u do ./home/bzuser/bzsold/bzfs it will load that one and not the one in /usr |
| 05:45.14 | spldart | ~bzfquery spldart.bakadigital.com:5155 |
| 05:45.23 | spldart | FINALLY!!!!! |
| 05:45.28 | Mr_Molez | heh |
| 05:45.42 | spldart | ~bzfquery spldart.bakadigital.com:5154 |
| 05:46.18 | spldart | is there a way to list all 0034 servers? |
| 05:48.38 | TimRiker | nope. patches welcome. |
| 05:49.14 | spldart | For some reason linux was aiming at my last bzfs in /etc/..... even when I tried to start the newer ones. got rid of the old one and forced linux to use the newer but longhanding out the directories for everything |
| 05:49.23 | spldart | if that makes sense from this n00b |
| 05:50.16 | Mr_Molez | y not make symlinks from the directorys/bzfs to point to /bin name them bzfs1 bzfs2 bzfs3 etc |
| 05:50.24 | TimRiker | spldart: I presume you meant for ibot. there is a way on the list server. |
| 05:50.45 | spldart | Tim< yeah |
| 05:50.50 | spldart | you presume correctly |
| 05:51.29 | spldart | MrMolez I'm just now learning screen cuz I don't want to be X on my server.... I'm not as advanced as all that :( |
| 05:51.41 | spldart | if you were talking to me |
| 05:51.47 | Mr_Molez | oh |
| 05:51.55 | Mr_Molez | pretty easy to symlink |
| 05:51.59 | TimRiker | http://my.bzflag.org/db/?action=LIST&version=BZFS0034 |
| 05:52.33 | spldart | I'll hafta research it |
| 05:52.52 | Mr_Molez | ln -s /path/to/bzfs /usr/bin |
| 05:53.02 | Mr_Molez | ln -s /path/to/bzfs /usr/bin/bzfs1 |
| 05:53.03 | Mr_Molez | oops |
| 05:53.24 | orchid | why not make ~/bin? |
| 05:53.34 | spldart | sweet :) one of 4 2.1 servers on the planet |
| 05:53.36 | spldart | hehe |
| 05:53.52 | spldart | online right now and public I should qualify |
| 05:54.37 | spldart | I fear messing with terminal now with something I haven't studied yet.... I don't want to toss hours of work out the window |
| 05:55.33 | Mr_Molez | yeh dont do something silly like rm /* -rf |
| 05:55.45 | Mr_Molez | :P |
| 05:56.03 | spldart | remove what!>!>!?? |
| 05:56.24 | spldart | and everything inside?! |
| 05:56.46 | Mr_Molez | ;) |
| 05:57.14 | spldart | that looks like a brutal oopsy if one accidentily ran it as.. what.. su or root |
| 05:57.26 | Mr_Molez | oh ive done it before |
| 05:57.31 | spldart | I'm learning terminall.... honest I am |
| 05:57.58 | spldart | But I keep ending up 'bash'ing my head on the 'prompt' |
| 05:59.10 | Mr_Molez | lol when i first started using linux i use to type everything out longhand for months, then i found out what tab key did. |
| 06:00.36 | spldart | My first computer was a trs-80 model 1... fat lot of good BASIC did me |
| 06:01.14 | spldart | But typing class before there was large scale web use..... that was a terrific if inadvertant investment |
| 06:01.33 | RatOmeter | Model I??? You should be more advanced than me then. I cut my teeth on a Model III |
| 06:03.03 | Mr_Molez | you ate a computer ? |
| 06:03.24 | RatOmeter | no, just a little plastic from around the keyboard |
| 06:03.32 | Mr_Molez | ahh |
| 06:03.48 | Mr_Molez | uhh why... |
| 06:04.00 | Mr_Molez | most i have eaten is a remote control :P |
| 06:04.24 | Mr_Molez | oh and mobile phone.... but i aint getting into that |
| 06:04.55 | RatOmeter | actually, that trash-80 silver case was a yellowish white underneath... there were 2 areas of worn-away coating where the old hands rested upon the keyboard |
| 06:06.14 | spldart | had two model 3s |
| 06:06.17 | RatOmeter | learned Z80 assembly language on that old thing... that landed me a job that lasted for almost 20 years and took me around the world (literally) |
| 06:06.23 | spldart | a commodore vic 20 and 64 |
| 06:06.41 | spldart | 2 apple 2c's and a gs |
| 06:06.52 | spldart | wow |
| 06:07.06 | spldart | and who can forge TI99 |
| 06:07.13 | spldart | forget |
| 06:07.55 | RatOmeter | yah. broadened some horizons, it did. Here's where I worked all them years: http://rencorp.com |
| 06:10.04 | spldart | looks like it pays well |
| 06:11.45 | RatOmeter | Hah! Some times it did. It's a fickle niche market. Up, down, down, down... I quit after I had 2 kids to look after. Found something with fewer hours, less travel (and less pay) |
| 06:12.12 | RatOmeter | my favorite example is this one: http://rencorp.com/powershifttransmission.htm |
| 06:13.09 | RatOmeter | in the late 80's, I wrote the code in Z80 asm, in the mid 90's I rewrote it in C for DOS, in 2000, I rewrote it for Windows with a touchscreen |
| 06:14.07 | spldart | hehe |
| 06:24.04 | Mr_Molez | omg combination padlocks are so easy to crack |
| 06:25.21 | spldart | http://spldart.bakadigital.com:91/home.htm hehe |
| 06:25.44 | spldart | combination padlocks and those combination side slide bicycle locks are too |
| 06:25.52 | spldart | and the chain ones as well |
| 06:25.56 | spldart | I can crach all of them |
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| 06:26.42 | Mr_Molez | heh |
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| 06:34.52 | spldart | nighty night people thanks for the help of getting 2.0 and 2.1 bzfs servers online :) |
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| 06:52.51 | RatOmeter | I am suffering from LaserMania withdrawl.I've tried hosting it from a saved map, but with no known conf file, what I've tried, the flags are scattered. hep? |
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| 07:09.18 | sgk284 | wow whoever is responsible for the metropolis map, excellent job... i think it was trepan |
| 07:13.21 | RatOmeter | Yeah. He's cool. Now if he or someone else who can tell me how to properly host LaserMania, I'll consider the whole world to be cool... sort of a global cooling kind of thing |
| 07:18.47 | orchid | I think louman made both those maps |
| 07:18.59 | orchid | or louman and trepan |
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| 07:29.41 | RatOmeter | yes, LouMan, then trepan with some fixups, as I've seen it |
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| 07:58.51 | orchid | ~spell chare |
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| 08:09.18 | LePoulpe303 | hi all |
| 08:15.01 | sniperyyd | hi LePoulpe303 |
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| 08:45.16 | sniperyyd | hey ive got a bug. |
| 08:45.31 | sniperyyd | i dunno if its a real bug or its sth normal |
| 08:46.25 | sniperyyd | i have a teleporter with Z 2 and theres a box upper the teleporter. if i jump but not staying on the box. when comes down tank can enter th eteleporter |
| 08:46.42 | sniperyyd | the teleporter |
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| 11:58.24 | ToughShooter | Ciao Tupone |
| 11:58.38 | Tupone | ciao |
| 11:59.10 | ToughShooter | Tupone: Still going for able to set lagwarn etc with /set? |
| 11:59.48 | ToughShooter | I found out what the prob with /jitterwarn was in my patch, it's a 1 line change |
| 11:59.53 | Birdie | brlcad ping (whenever you wake up:) ) |
| 11:59.54 | Tupone | dunno have not looket at it, sorry |
| 12:00.18 | Tupone | so ... do fix it, and repost patch |
| 12:00.26 | ToughShooter | The 8 should be a 11 :/ |
| 12:01.10 | ToughShooter | k |
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| 13:35.22 | spldart | Any dev's availabe? |
| 13:36.06 | spldart | My 2.1 client seems to go unresponsive after one attempt to address it from Internet Explorer... And that one attempt brings about an unusual result. |
| 13:38.26 | spldart | Just thought I'd save and host that for your examination :confused: |
| 13:46.48 | spldart | Woah! ....bzflag.game-host.org:5154 bzfs 2.1 outputs the same gobbily goop |
| 13:48.12 | spldart | Difference is there's will output the same goop over and over whereas mine will output it once and then further attempts to address it in internet explorer will yield a blank page |
| 13:50.34 | spldart | time to restart it again |
| 13:53.50 | spldart | ~bzfquery spldart.bakadigital.com:5155 |
| 13:56.23 | spldart | ~bzfquery spldart.bakadigital.com:5154 |
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| 15:40.37 | Saturos | Is a dev here? |
| 15:41.10 | Saturos | Something that should be taken serious happened... |
| 15:48.47 | sniperyyd | *should* lol |
| 15:48.58 | blast007 | hi Saturos |
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| 15:58.08 | sussi | hi |
| 15:58.30 | CBG | Hi |
| 15:59.45 | sussi | apply for proxs:7001 acceleration limits? |
| 16:01.30 | orange_away | it is already set, but possibly not the same as others |
| 16:02.25 | sussi | for dub is 30 25 i guess |
| 16:04.28 | sussi | my impression was there is nothing |
| 16:14.42 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03pimpinella * 10bzflag/src/bzfs/TimerStrategy.h: Timer Strategies encapsulate Timers such as the games countown mechanisms with their actions |
| 16:15.52 | Tupone | Saturos: what ? |
| 16:16.03 | Saturos | Already talked to blast007. |
| 16:16.10 | Tupone | ahh ok |
| 16:36.14 | ToughShooter | brlcad: pingeling ;) |
| 16:36.40 | ToughShooter | Saw cruel effects with OO in CVS HEAD? |
| 16:37.10 | brlcad | mkay |
| 16:37.24 | brlcad | explainy |
| 16:38.12 | ToughShooter | I grab OO and jump against a wall, I bounce off the wall |
| 16:38.51 | ToughShooter | If I jump onto a platform with OO I get sealed, my tank moves off the platform and no longer sealed |
| 16:39.28 | ToughShooter | Without any flag everything looks ok except when I get sealed somewhere I don't get "unsealed" any more |
| 16:41.30 | brlcad | yeah, that's the expelled flag |
| 16:41.48 | brlcad | probabably a !expelled needs to be an expelled |
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| 17:33.35 | Alex135 | oh btw, Is there any way at all to git the program that is shown at http://www.bzflag.org/wiki/BzflagAndLag .... i know that it sais it is not jenerly avalubul... but i would like to use it. is there anyway to git it? |
| 17:35.29 | JeffM2501 | ask chestal |
| 17:35.40 | JeffM2501 | you run linux? |
| 17:35.51 | Alex135 | no... am i required to to be able to use it? |
| 17:35.55 | Alex135 | i have linux |
| 17:36.12 | JeffM2501 | chestals app looks to be linux based yes |
| 17:36.22 | Chestal | it uses wxWindows |
| 17:36.28 | JeffM2501 | ahh |
| 17:36.32 | Alex135 | may i plz use it? |
| 17:36.44 | Alex135 | im intrested in that program... |
| 17:36.44 | Chestal | but I have only testd on Debian Linux |
| 17:36.44 | JeffM2501 | ever try to build it for others? |
| 17:36.44 | JeffM2501 | ahh |
| 17:36.52 | JeffM2501 | how do you like wx? |
| 17:37.07 | Alex135 | wx? |
| 17:37.13 | brlcad | Chestal: oh, i didn't know you used wx for that |
| 17:37.17 | JeffM2501 | it was a question for chestal |
| 17:37.19 | brlcad | means I should get it working here :) |
| 17:38.04 | Pimpi | Alex135: google for wxWindows |
| 17:38.26 | Chestal | http://www.home.unix-ag.org/thilo/files/bzlogview.tgz is the source, contains a small README. It is by no means finished or polished |
| 17:38.50 | Alex135 | tankyou very much :D |
| 17:38.50 | Chestal | wxWidgets is the current name actually |
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| 18:25.27 | JeffM2501 | man does wx have some warnings or WHAT |
| 18:26.46 | brlcad | like don't run with scissors? |
| 18:26.57 | JeffM2501 | heh |
| 18:27.09 | JeffM2501 | like over 2000 warnings per sub project |
| 18:27.23 | JeffM2501 | and no VC7.x build system :( |
| 18:28.08 | JeffM2501 | mostly dup functions in the lib |
| 18:28.10 | JeffM2501 | libs |
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| 19:04.50 | spldart | time to reboot to linux and stuff.... |
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| 19:10.15 | Deepa | ~bzfquery armchairs.be:5154 |
| 19:11.02 | ToughShooter | Tupone: I've uploaded the patch without known bugs to sourceforge |
| 19:11.27 | Tupone | aww, you mean you fixed it ? |
| 19:12.37 | ToughShooter | Yup, it's fixed |
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| 19:19.39 | spldart | Ah.. linux.... a good old movie and a SU prompt... what more can a person ask for ? |
| 19:20.03 | Thumper_ | brlcad: is louman.bzflag.bz down ? (lasermania specifically) |
| 19:21.38 | Thumper_ | brlcad: and do you have any idea when/if it's coming up again? |
| 19:22.32 | brlcad | ~bzfquery louman.bzflag.bz:2804 |
| 19:23.44 | spldart | lol |
| 19:23.46 | spldart | oopsy |
| 19:27.04 | Thumper_ | brlcad: I'm running lasermania on my system but it can't handle the load |
| 19:27.15 | Thumper_ | so I'd like to move the players back when the regular server is up again |
| 19:27.47 | brlcad | Thumper_: the system went through a restart a little while ago (few days ago) .. not sure if it's been back up since |
| 19:27.54 | Thumper_ | ok |
| 19:28.27 | brlcad | i could kick it off easily enough, but i dont' know if trepan had some reason |
| 19:29.05 | Thumper_ | all I know is it's missing and the players are suffering withdrawal symptoms ;) |
| 19:29.19 | brlcad | heh |
| 19:29.23 | Thumper_ | so they're putting up wiht my laggy server |
| 19:31.17 | Thumper_ | trepan: ping (re: lasermania on louman.bzflag.bz above) |
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| 19:55.45 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03pimpinella * 10bzflag/src/bzfs/TimerStrategy.h: return a pointer... |
| 19:57.25 | spldart | -./autogening yet again muwahahaha |
| 19:57.48 | spldart | was bzclient brokeded in the 2.1 cvs stuff? |
| 19:58.01 | spldart | -./configure |
| 19:58.36 | spldart | make |
| 19:58.53 | sniperyyd | -make i think lol ;) |
| 19:59.13 | spldart | -make -j2 |
| 19:59.27 | spldart | I didnt' want ibot thinking I'm doing something important |
| 19:59.32 | spldart | I are not the important |
| 19:59.37 | sniperyyd | ah |
| 19:59.38 | sniperyyd | k |
| 20:00.18 | spldart | sometimes I type what I'm doing being silly or somebody asks and because I don't note it somehow ibots asks what I'm tryint to do :) |
| 20:01.10 | spldart | maybe I should use -j3 after all... I'm only using 80% of each processor right now |
| 20:04.13 | spldart | woohoo make done lets install |
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| 20:06.51 | spldart | hrm... make a shortcut in fluxbox menu and lets see if I crash my ish :eek: |
| 20:16.26 | menotume | brlcad: I've seen the same issue with a long 'replay list' as with the long 'banlist' |
| 20:16.44 | brlcad | menotume: yep |
| 20:17.17 | menotume | it would die after about 300 lines or so |
| 20:17.52 | spldart | very very sweet. |
| 20:18.05 | spldart | but I couldn't pick up flags |
| 20:18.10 | spldart | in 2.1 client :confused: |
| 20:19.26 | spldart | ah sweet |
| 20:19.34 | spldart | logged into both servers with bzadmins :) |
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| 21:02.15 | RPG_ | test |
| 21:02.21 | RPG_ | hmm, why would you possible need voice? |
| 21:02.48 | brlcad | when the channel moderation is turned on |
| 21:03.08 | RPG_ | does that mean "it will be turned on soon", or "it is periodically turned on" |
| 21:03.19 | blast007 | it's turned on when the spammers are about |
| 21:03.51 | RPG_ | might want it then |
| 21:12.06 | spldart | voice again? did we get spammed again? |
| 21:12.26 | spldart | last one was yesterday methinks |
| 21:12.30 | blast007 | not yet today |
| 21:12.48 | spldart | that sounds anticipitory of a spam attack |
| 21:17.26 | spldart | well crud |
| 21:17.41 | RPG_ | what are they spamming for |
| 21:17.44 | RPG_ | ~logs |
| 21:17.46 | ibot | somebody said logs was http://ibot.rikers.org/%23bzflag/, or stats http://ibot.rikers.org/stats/bzflag.html.gz |
| 21:17.47 | spldart | I was trying to move the bzadmin's to a specific home directory |
| 21:18.23 | spldart | But no matter what I do the old 2.0.5 bzadmin says 'permission denied' whenever I try to run it |
| 21:18.39 | spldart | I'm logging 2.1 into my 2.1 server just fine though :( |
| 21:19.08 | spldart | I've even tried chown'ing the old bzadmin client to the user and to all but nogo |
| 21:19.41 | spldart | Is there a client made yet that can monitor both 0026 and 0034? |
| 21:28.25 | trepan | brlcad: Thumper_: yup, i shut 'em all down and made a nice tar.bz2 of all of Lou's maps |
| 21:28.36 | spldart | ... can anyone talk me through or build me a copy of bzadmin 2.1 for windows? |
| 21:28.50 | spldart | Pweeeese ? |
| 21:28.52 | RPG_ | yeah, but i'm not too sure if it'll worl :-P |
| 21:28.55 | RPG_ | work |
| 21:28.59 | spldart | why not? |
| 21:29.13 | RPG_ | all of mine so far havn't |
| 21:29.28 | spldart | actually. I don't have my tools loaded on win right now... |
| 21:29.40 | spldart | so I need someone to build win for me... unless I can build win version in linux |
| 21:29.49 | RPG_ | doubt it ;) |
| 21:29.52 | spldart | that sux rpg_ |
| 21:29.58 | RPG_ | i'm CVS updating |
| 21:30.02 | RPG_ | first time in like a month |
| 21:30.07 | RPG_ | so its talkign a while |
| 21:30.11 | spldart | My linux bzadmin is working -version 2.1 |
| 21:30.36 | spldart | but I'd like to keep an eye on my 2.1 server as well as the 2.0 in a windows too |
| 21:30.47 | RPG_ | mmm hmm |
| 21:30.56 | RPG_ | this won't be the curses one though |
| 21:31.05 | RPG_ | unless they built curses in.... |
| 21:31.10 | spldart | what does that cost me in functionality |
| 21:31.21 | RPG_ | all the text is white |
| 21:31.27 | RPG_ | you don't get a chat bar at the bottom |
| 21:31.28 | spldart | I have no problem with that |
| 21:31.31 | RPG_ | its just plain, white, text |
| 21:31.36 | RPG_ | linux is so much cooler |
| 21:31.42 | spldart | true that... |
| 21:31.47 | RPG_ | anyways its compilling |
| 21:31.51 | spldart | but at work there are no linux boxen |
| 21:31.57 | RPG_ | ooh |
| 21:32.04 | RPG_ | then get ready for masterbot :) |
| 21:32.19 | spldart | I usually just customize the dos box all pretty |
| 21:32.21 | spldart | masterbot? |
| 21:32.27 | RPG_ | #masterbot |
| 21:32.30 | RPG_ | its a HTTP admin system |
| 21:32.48 | RPG_ | still in pre alpha |
| 21:33.01 | spldart | it's for watching a server? |
| 21:33.12 | RPG_ | yep |
| 21:33.15 | RPG_ | and you can kick/ban/etc |
| 21:33.16 | spldart | can I watch both my 2.0 and 2.1 servers on it? |
| 21:33.19 | RPG_ | yep |
| 21:33.20 | RPG_ | its a plugin |
| 21:33.26 | RPG_ | coupled with a GUI of your choice |
| 21:33.29 | spldart | Plug's into what? |
| 21:33.33 | spldart | IE |
| 21:33.36 | RPG_ | http://masterbot.jomitech.com/wiki/ |
| 21:33.36 | spldart | BZadmin |
| 21:33.39 | RPG_ | plugs into BZFS |
| 21:35.34 | RPG_ | its... crude |
| 21:36.53 | RPG_ | that has almost no writing on it |
| 21:37.07 | RPG_ | the whole thing will work like linux does |
| 21:37.15 | RPG_ | oen kernel, multiple GUI's (or distros for linux) |
| 21:37.25 | RPG_ | the plugin will be the kernel, and GUI's can be made for it |
| 21:37.39 | RPG_ | the GUI could be PHP, C++, perl, andything, as long as it can do sockets |
| 21:37.59 | spldart | hrm |
| 21:38.18 | spldart | guess I'll wait in breathless anticipation ;) |
| 21:38.20 | spldart | lol |
| 21:38.23 | RPG_ | heh |
| 21:39.03 | RPG_ | hot off the CPU: |
| 21:39.16 | RPG_ | http://Guest:binary221@garrettp.homeip.net/bzadmin.zip |
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| 21:44.19 | Allied | anyone know where Baron usually is? |
| 21:49.07 | spldart | thanksy |
| 21:49.23 | RPG_ | is it 2.0 or 2.1? |
| 21:49.30 | RPG_ | i just forgot what i was compiling |
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| 21:50.35 | spldart | now to move that to files server with TKSmb... |
| 21:51.19 | RPG_ | TKSmb? |
| 21:51.21 | RPG_ | ~tksmpb |
| 21:51.26 | RPG_ | ~tksmb |
| 21:51.27 | ibot | TclTk X11 shell for smbclient. URL: http://www.rt.mipt.ru/frtk/ivan/TkSmb/ |
| 21:51.43 | spldart | I don't like fancy file browser thingies |
| 21:51.48 | spldart | and I had samba installed anyway |
| 21:53.59 | RPG_ | yay im' workign om nastmerobt! |
| 21:54.11 | RPG_ | Yay! I'm working on Masterbot! |
| 21:54.12 | spldart | and a case of beer? |
| 21:54.20 | spldart | hehe spelling |
| 21:54.22 | RPG_ | wrong channel! |
| 21:54.25 | RPG_ | hwhw |
| 21:54.26 | RPG_ | seems like it |
| 21:54.32 | RPG_ | i thought i was in #masterbot... |
| 21:54.37 | Allied | lol |
| 21:54.39 | spldart | oopsy |
| 21:54.54 | spldart | I hate it when I start typin in what I thought was terminal and it ends up in here |
| 21:55.03 | spldart | and then again stometimes I do it on purpose |
| 21:55.04 | spldart | muwahahhaa |
| 21:57.48 | Allied | lol |
| 21:59.10 | RPG_ | are you alliedarmouR? |
| 21:59.15 | Allied | yup |
| 21:59.19 | Allied | i cant use AlliedArmour |
| 21:59.20 | RPG_ | yay |
| 21:59.22 | RPG_ | ynot? |
| 21:59.25 | Allied | i regged it and forgot the pass :( |
| 21:59.29 | RPG_ | heh |
| 21:59.30 | Allied | so i just regged Allied |
| 21:59.43 | RPG_ | ~say /make Allied #masterbot |
| 21:59.44 | ibot | /make Allied #masterbot |
| 21:59.52 | RPG_ | ~say /me hi |
| 21:59.53 | ibot | /me hi |
| 22:00.02 | RPG_ | ~say /kick RPG_ |
| 22:00.04 | ibot | /kick RPG_ |
| 22:00.04 | Allied | no such command for /make |
| 22:00.09 | RPG_ | d'oh |
| 22:00.24 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o Tupone] by ChanServ |
| 22:00.54 | Tupone | can you chat in some other channel please ... This is mainly a dev channel |
| 22:01.04 | Allied | sorry |
| 22:01.09 | RPG_ | hence "/make Allied jion #masterbot" |
| 22:01.11 | Tupone | not just you |
| 22:02.11 | Tupone | /join #bzchat for that |
| 22:04.44 | spldart | my bad if I've been a bit chatty... but I've made great progress experimenting with the 2.1 build :) |
| 22:05.51 | Tupone | spldart: if you have something to say here, there is no problem. But for just chatting, please no |
| 22:09.08 | spldart | guess I'm apologizing for crossing the line a bit while I was getting help with 2.1 stuff yesterday and today. yesterday getting my new 2.1 server up and today getting 2.1 client playing for the first time :) |
| 22:10.14 | ToughShooter | spldart: yesterday and todays CVS builts of clients are a little bit broken |
| 22:10.52 | Tupone | I read all your message, or most of it. The added output on what you call IE connecting to server is a change I made. If yoou are really worried about that, I can change that when I've time. But you have to show me the problem :) |
| 22:11.22 | RPG_ | Internet Explorer? |
| 22:11.58 | spldart | did you catch the link from early this morning? |
| 22:12.14 | Tupone | early morning, could be nope |
| 22:12.19 | spldart | just a sec |
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| 22:15.01 | spldart | http://spldart.bakadigital.com:91/spldart_bakadigital_server_20.htm is the normal ouput I've come to expect form 2.0 servers |
| 22:15.25 | spldart | http://spldart.bakadigital.com:91/spldart_bakadigital_server_21.htm is what I get when I first access the 2.1 server |
| 22:15.37 | spldart | But every time IE accessses it after that I get a blank screeen |
| 22:15.58 | spldart | which seems really odd |
| 22:17.07 | spldart | But bzadmin 2.1 seems to be working although it left my username in observer mode on there after I shutdown :confused: |
| 22:17.33 | spldart | And i'm not sure if it's just me but i can't seem to pick up flags in bzflag client 2.1 |
| 22:17.39 | spldart | I was going to try that again though |
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| 22:20.45 | spldart | very intersting... same bins in mozilla |
| 22:21.09 | spldart | but mozilla keeps picking up the long version that ie only does once for me |
| 22:21.16 | spldart | mozilla-firefox |
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| 22:26.06 | spldart | ok.. I can pick up flags on my 2.1 server so disreguard the flag thing |
| 22:26.43 | spldart | but my 2.1 server is no longer appearing on the list in client I had to manually address it. I showed only 2 other servers |
| 22:27.16 | spldart | but I do show up in the list on bzadmin |
| 22:27.49 | spldart | Hope all this helps hehe. It would be nice for all the work (only alot cuz I'm linux n00b) to help someone else too. |
| 22:28.43 | spldart | hrm.. I'm listed as invalid team on my bzadmin when I logged in on game client |
| 22:29.30 | spldart | ~bzfquery spldart.bakadigital.com:5155 |
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| 22:30.51 | spldart | I wonder why bzflag keeps dissappearing out of my fluxbox-menu though ?-_-? |
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| 23:01.09 | *** topic/#bzflag is http://BZFlag.org/ || http://my.BZFlag.org/bb/ || http://my.BZFlag.org/ || http://cia.navi.cx/stats/project/BZFlag || http://BZFlag.org/wiki/GettingHelp || http://BZFlag.org/wiki/Download || #bzchat for casual chat || paste to http://bzflag.pastebin.ca || CVS HEAD is now 2.1 unstable, commit stable to v2_0branch | if you don't have voice and need it, just msg an op |
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| 23:01.20 | blast007 | spldart: there is some issues with bzadmin for 2.1...not sure what the problem is |
| 23:03.43 | Tupone | blast007: a problem could be that I have never tested it :(. Just compilation |
| 23:03.55 | Tupone | and build |
| 23:05.25 | blast007 | :) |
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| 23:57.35 | *** topic/#bzflag is http://BZFlag.org/ || http://my.BZFlag.org/bb/ || http://my.BZFlag.org/ || http://cia.navi.cx/stats/project/BZFlag || http://BZFlag.org/wiki/GettingHelp || http://BZFlag.org/wiki/Download || #bzchat for casual chat || paste to http://bzflag.pastebin.ca || CVS HEAD is now 2.1 unstable, commit stable to v2_0branch | if you don't have voice and need it, just msg an op |
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| 23:59.42 | *** topic/#bzflag is http://BZFlag.org/ || http://my.BZFlag.org/bb/ || http://my.BZFlag.org/ || http://cia.navi.cx/stats/project/BZFlag || http://BZFlag.org/wiki/GettingHelp || http://BZFlag.org/wiki/Download || #bzchat for casual chat || paste to http://bzflag.pastebin.ca || CVS HEAD is now 2.1 unstable, commit stable to v2_0branch | if you don't have voice and need it, just msg an op |
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