| 00:00.04 | JeffM2501 | it's there server |
| 00:00.07 | JeffM2501 | it goes up |
| 00:00.09 | wizatcomp | SF has been having a "Partial Outage" on their CVS systems for almost 2 months now |
| 00:00.10 | JeffM2501 | it comes down |
| 00:00.21 | JeffM2501 | you get what you pay for |
| 00:00.27 | wizatcomp | yup |
| 00:00.37 | spldart | I'll give them a nuckle sandwich and a smile |
| 00:01.06 | spldart | so... who do I send money too to get service around here? |
| 00:01.08 | wizatcomp | spldart: i don't think that would get the issue solved any faster :p |
| 00:01.09 | JeffM2501 | then that's what you'll get back |
| 00:01.11 | spldart | he he he |
| 00:01.17 | JeffM2501 | well SF takes donations |
| 00:01.20 | JeffM2501 | as does the bzflag proejct |
| 00:01.23 | spldart | so they want to fight do they? |
| 00:01.33 | JeffM2501 | if we had enough of them, then we could host our own cvs server |
| 00:01.59 | spldart | sounds like I would like any contributions from me to go to the bzflag project then |
| 00:02.01 | CBG | enough of what? |
| 00:02.11 | wizatcomp | donations |
| 00:02.13 | JeffM2501 | enough cash |
| 00:02.18 | CBG | ah |
| 00:02.26 | JeffM2501 | if we had enough money we could get our own colo machine just for cvs |
| 00:02.29 | CBG | Well, if every serious player donated $5... |
| 00:02.30 | spldart | ish!... I'm on a dual barton 2400 processor raid 0 machine... How about I host a cvs server for bzflag? |
| 00:02.31 | JeffM2501 | and pay to maintain it |
| 00:02.32 | spldart | hehehe |
| 00:02.46 | JeffM2501 | spldart, what is your uptime and bandwith? |
| 00:02.54 | spldart | I have a paypal.... where would I go to give bz 5 bux |
| 00:03.03 | spldart | I'd have to buy more bandwidth |
| 00:03.08 | spldart | that's the only thing |
| 00:03.20 | JeffM2501 | the sf bzflag page has donation links |
| 00:03.20 | spldart | 5 down .5 up |
| 00:03.22 | wizatcomp | JeffM2501: how much BW would running CVS use? |
| 00:03.34 | wizatcomp | spldart: sounds like cable :p |
| 00:03.38 | spldart | they uncapped me |
| 00:03.47 | JeffM2501 | wizatcomp, if we were to swap we'd want the stability of a dedicated system at a data center at least |
| 00:03.56 | JeffM2501 | cvs changes of large files can be bandwith taxing |
| 00:04.00 | CBG | spldart: http://sourceforge.net/project/project_donations.php?group_id=3248 |
| 00:04.04 | JeffM2501 | DSLs are not that relyable |
| 00:04.13 | wizatcomp | JeffM2501: i wasn't going to offer to host it |
| 00:04.19 | wizatcomp | just curious |
| 00:04.39 | spldart | well crap.. I'm not as stabile as a data center.. although my modem, router, switch, server, and dually are all on ups |
| 00:04.40 | spldart | hehe |
| 00:04.59 | JeffM2501 | the higher bandwith services provide better relyablity usualy |
| 00:05.08 | spldart | held on to my ip even after big power outtages that reset my whole neighborhood |
| 00:05.08 | TimRiker | once we get mbo mirrored, we might consider moving vc there and mirror it too. |
| 00:05.15 | *** mode/#bzflag [+v devster] by JeffM2501 |
| 00:05.25 | JeffM2501 | vc? |
| 00:05.37 | TimRiker | version control. |
| 00:05.39 | devster | thanks, out of curiosity, what would you need for a cvs server? |
| 00:05.40 | JeffM2501 | ahh |
| 00:05.47 | JeffM2501 | yeah itd be nice to change to like subversion |
| 00:06.09 | spldart | so my cvs line is correct? |
| 00:06.12 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 00:06.14 | JeffM2501 | it's just down |
| 00:06.24 | JeffM2501 | it's been up and down all month |
| 00:06.28 | JeffM2501 | sf has growing pains |
| 00:06.41 | devster | what space/bandwidth/cpu etc would it need JeffM2501 ? |
| 00:06.43 | JeffM2501 | they mean well but lots of people seem to abbuse them |
| 00:06.49 | JeffM2501 | devster, hard to say |
| 00:07.03 | JeffM2501 | for bandwith I'd say something on a colo type connection at the least |
| 00:07.07 | JeffM2501 | for relyabaility |
| 00:07.18 | Birdie | 221.13.198.61 |
| 00:07.22 | Birdie | there he is again |
| 00:07.26 | JeffM2501 | as well as root access for the admin staff |
| 00:07.28 | Birdie | "orange sucks balls and birdiecunt" now |
| 00:07.39 | SportyGal | aua |
| 00:07.43 | JeffM2501 | relyabality is the most important thing |
| 00:07.51 | JeffM2501 | SF has bandwith and space, but not relyabality |
| 00:07.54 | devster | hmm i'd be fine on space/bandwidth, not entirely sure on root access though |
| 00:08.18 | spldart | link to donate to bz project? |
| 00:08.31 | JeffM2501 | brlcad has a nice dedicated system that we will be moving the forums and list server to, and leaving the current as a live backup |
| 00:08.32 | CBG | spldart: http://sourceforge.net/project/project_donations.php?group_id=3248 |
| 00:08.47 | JeffM2501 | we can probalby get him to let us put a VCS there |
| 00:08.52 | spldart | doesn't that go to cvs? |
| 00:08.54 | spldart | i mean |
| 00:08.57 | spldart | sourceforge |
| 00:08.59 | spldart | not bzflag |
| 00:09.05 | CBG | Go and see. |
| 00:09.09 | spldart | i did |
| 00:09.16 | SportyGal | he's on gu:5159 now as Orange. |
| 00:09.17 | CBG | click the "Donate to BZFlag - Multiplayer 3D Tank Game (bzflag)" link... |
| 00:09.19 | JeffM2501 | sf has ways to take donations for people and proejcts |
| 00:09.39 | CBG | spldart: here: http://sourceforge.net/donate/index.php?group_id=3248 ........ |
| 00:10.12 | JeffM2501 | Donations will go towards internet access for list servers and hardware for developers. 5% towards sf.net per their normal defaults |
| 00:10.28 | CBG | SportyGal: he won't be able to speak or spawn on gu:5159. |
| 00:10.29 | spldart | Okies |
| 00:10.32 | JeffM2501 | not that a dev has ever seen hardware from the project IIRC ;) |
| 00:10.32 | spldart | that's what Ill do |
| 00:11.00 | SportyGal | I think alex banned him anyway |
| 00:11.08 | purple_cow | JeffM2501: we came pretty close to buying a video card for MAC :) |
| 00:11.08 | SportyGal | he had the blog address as his email |
| 00:11.14 | JeffM2501 | that is true |
| 00:11.17 | purple_cow | not that that was from donations |
| 00:11.18 | JeffM2501 | but that wasn't from donations |
| 00:11.25 | JeffM2501 | that was gonna be from my box |
| 00:11.39 | JeffM2501 | then he got one for xmass |
| 00:16.35 | *** join/#bzflag bryjen (n=chatzill@2002:45a6:86ae:0:0:0:0:1) |
| 00:22.13 | Birdie | ~blast007++ |
| 00:27.12 | spldart | question.. if I have a username and password /account... do I enter that in the cvs line? |
| 00:27.25 | spldart | or do I still login as anonymous |
| 00:27.51 | blast007 | still anon |
| 00:28.03 | blast007 | only people with dev access use their username |
| 00:28.10 | spldart | bummer |
| 00:28.14 | blast007 | and then it's :ext: instead of :pserver: |
| 00:28.21 | spldart | well.... I donated... and yes.. more than 5 bux |
| 00:28.36 | blast007 | I need to get paypal set up so I can do that |
| 00:28.39 | spldart | and maybe I'll donate again! :~p |
| 00:28.41 | spldart | heheh |
| 00:29.58 | spldart | So... Everytime I see one of you bz dev's do a snippet of code update that means that I could recompile shortly thereafter and have a slightly newer version of the testing bz? |
| 00:31.04 | spldart | as appossed to the last release beta that I'm trying to compile now |
| 00:31.04 | spldart | or final release whichever I usually go after |
| 00:31.59 | blast007 | yeah |
| 00:32.39 | blast007 | but of course, there's the anon lag time |
| 00:34.39 | spldart | Mystery of the universe.. I donate and magically I'm getting the files from cvs now :confused ;) |
| 00:36.00 | blast007 | lol |
| 00:40.50 | *** join/#bzflag retro (n=ken@gateway-1237.mvista.com) |
| 00:41.14 | spldart | hehe |
| 00:41.33 | spldart | forgot how long this took on my slowest rig :( |
| 00:42.45 | blast007 | try it on 133MHz |
| 00:43.13 | blast007 | oh man, I just remembered they did the copyright flood...now it's gonna compile everything from scratch |
| 00:44.22 | spldart | ? |
| 00:44.39 | spldart | oh... slowest overhere is the lone k6 2 500 |
| 00:45.11 | spldart | I plan to compile on my dually later, if I'm still awake and perky, and do a testing version of bz :) |
| 00:46.12 | spldart | I forget... does ./autogen get run as user or su |
| 00:49.01 | spldart | su |
| 00:50.12 | spldart | I love my new monitor data transfer switch :-D |
| 00:58.47 | *** part/#bzflag Tupone (n=Tupone@pdpc/supporter/active/Tupone) |
| 01:02.33 | spldart | make :-D |
| 01:03.33 | brlcad | egads, so many private messages.. |
| 01:04.12 | wizatcomp | for BZflag hosting, this may be good |
| 01:04.12 | wizatcomp | http://www.communitycolo.net/index.php |
| 01:04.21 | wizatcomp | free colo hosting if you provide the box |
| 01:04.59 | blast007 | ;) |
| 01:05.06 | brad2901 | heh |
| 01:05.16 | wizatcomp | erm, BZflag project/cvs/etc stuff |
| 01:05.38 | wizatcomp | send them the box and they give it power and internet |
| 01:05.40 | JeffM2501 | I think he may mean the same thing :) |
| 01:06.16 | wizatcomp | *sends |
| 01:06.19 | brad2901 | do you get your box back when they shut down? |
| 01:06.32 | wizatcomp | brad2901: i'd assume so... hopefully they don't |
| 01:06.46 | brad2901 | surely there must be something in it for them... |
| 01:07.14 | JeffM2501 | they load 20 gigs of pr0n on it |
| 01:07.15 | *** part/#bzflag slvrsox (n=vircuser@204.10.247.1) |
| 01:07.15 | brlcad | sf.net not only has space/bandwidth but treats their non-anonymous users fairly well, setting up a secure anonymous cvs isn't nearly as easy (although subversion would be considerably better/secure in that regard) |
| 01:07.16 | blast007 | they host warez on half the drive |
| 01:07.23 | blast007 | heh, jeff beat me to it ;) |
| 01:07.33 | JeffM2501 | horse pr0n |
| 01:07.47 | brad2901 | heh |
| 01:08.10 | JeffM2501 | brlcad, yeah I think if we moved from SF, going to svn would be a very possible thing |
| 01:08.18 | JeffM2501 | I don't think anyone is in love with CVS |
| 01:08.19 | purple_cow | yay svn |
| 01:08.37 | brlcad | sf.net not only has space/bandwidth but treats their non-anonymous users fairly well, setting up a secure anonymous cvs isn't nearly as easy (although subversion would be considerably better/secure in that regard) |
| 01:08.38 | JeffM2501 | purple_cow, what card did you get for your new system? |
| 01:08.47 | purple_cow | JeffM2501: i still haven't done it yet |
| 01:08.51 | JeffM2501 | oh |
| 01:09.02 | JeffM2501 | so you won't be able to tell me how you like it then :) |
| 01:09.06 | purple_cow | it's great! |
| 01:09.13 | JeffM2501 | I need to find a holdover card |
| 01:09.18 | JeffM2501 | the 6600's just arn't cuting it |
| 01:09.26 | purple_cow | the 6800 i had found looked pretty decent |
| 01:09.29 | JeffM2501 | and I have to wait for the 7800 |
| 01:09.43 | purple_cow | of course it's been a couple months, so you can probably get a better one for the same price now |
| 01:09.51 | *** part/#bzflag PuMpErNiCkEl (n=Moitd@CPE000d8802a749-CM0012c9a9a6dc.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 01:09.56 | JeffM2501 | how much were you lookin at spending? |
| 01:10.15 | JeffM2501 | 6800gs's are like 190$ |
| 01:10.26 | JeffM2501 | I think you can get 7800GTs for 300 |
| 01:10.50 | spldart | what do I do after 'make' is done? |
| 01:10.56 | JeffM2501 | run it |
| 01:10.58 | JeffM2501 | or install it |
| 01:11.00 | JeffM2501 | your call |
| 01:11.07 | JeffM2501 | or go get a beer |
| 01:13.03 | purple_cow | JeffM2501: i think i was looking at about 250? |
| 01:13.07 | purple_cow | it was a 6800gt |
| 01:13.13 | JeffM2501 | ahh |
| 01:13.22 | spldart | Ok.. I got teh beer... |
| 01:13.32 | purple_cow | of course, one of my requirements was that it have dual DVI |
| 01:13.33 | spldart | but... how would I go about teh install |
| 01:13.36 | blast007 | make install |
| 01:13.38 | purple_cow | since i want to replace my monitors at some point |
| 01:13.40 | spldart | ok |
| 01:13.41 | spldart | thanks |
| 01:13.46 | spldart | I'm so used to apt-get install |
| 01:14.04 | brlcad | (sorry for repeat, was deep up in a scrollback) |
| 01:14.09 | JeffM2501 | heh |
| 01:14.21 | JeffM2501 | purple_cow, http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814150122 |
| 01:14.29 | JeffM2501 | 165, XL, dual dvi |
| 01:14.52 | purple_cow | XT? that's a new one |
| 01:14.54 | brlcad | not perfect, but very well understood in general |
| 01:15.16 | purple_cow | yeah |
| 01:15.20 | purple_cow | but svn is so much easier to work with |
| 01:15.39 | brlcad | it's a tradeoff |
| 01:15.52 | JeffM2501 | I think setup is a little more involved |
| 01:15.54 | brlcad | issues for general familiarity |
| 01:16.14 | purple_cow | brlcad: i can guarantee you that you'll have absolutely no problem working with it :P |
| 01:16.22 | brlcad | i don't mean any devs |
| 01:16.37 | brlcad | folks external, and availability of the clients in general for a random given system |
| 01:16.50 | purple_cow | anybody who's familiar with cvs will have no troubles going to svn |
| 01:16.55 | brlcad | cvs is pretty prevalent, svn isn't yet unfortunately |
| 01:17.09 | JeffM2501 | windows clients are the same to install for ether or |
| 01:17.21 | JeffM2501 | there is even a tort like svn client for the mac :) |
| 01:17.27 | purple_cow | most modern distros ship both nowadays |
| 01:17.46 | brlcad | heh, no they don't :) |
| 01:17.53 | spldart | should I do anything about the last 'make install' before I do this make install? uninstall? |
| 01:18.17 | brlcad | it's readily available on some to be sure |
| 01:18.28 | brlcad | easy to pull up on one of the packageing systmes |
| 01:18.46 | brlcad | portage, ports, apt, fink, etc |
| 01:21.02 | orange | 200.196.104.17 another |
| 01:21.03 | blast007 | spldart: you don't technically have to install it |
| 01:21.04 | brlcad | not provided on mac or win or rh last I checked, dont' know about livecds of gentoo, freebsd, debian |
| 01:21.24 | blast007 | you can just copy the binaries and the data direcetory to a location, and use that |
| 01:21.49 | blast007 | binaries are like src/bzflag/bzflag, src/bzfs/bzfs, etc |
| 01:22.44 | spldart | I just need a new bzfs... what would be a alternative? |
| 01:22.55 | spldart | er- A = the |
| 01:23.13 | spldart | Once I finish compile I need the new bzfs in /usr/etc etc |
| 01:27.23 | spldart | BTW JeffM I've really gotten into Fluxbox :) Even doing the scripts and custom menu's thing big time. |
| 01:27.29 | *** join/#bzflag brad2901 (i=brad@unaffiliated/brad2901) |
| 01:31.50 | blast007 | make install will install everything, including the binaries, man files, and data |
| 01:32.10 | blast007 | is there a current bzflag install on that system? |
| 01:32.32 | blast007 | and if so, was it done via a package manager? |
| 01:32.35 | *** join/#bzflag JBdiGriz (n=JBdiGriz@adsl-67-125-170-232.dsl.sndg02.pacbell.net) |
| 01:32.35 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o JBdiGriz] by ChanServ |
| 01:35.11 | spldart | what was the cvs directory for the unreleased experimental again? |
| 01:36.22 | brlcad | just head |
| 01:38.17 | blast007 | if you don't specify a revision, you get HEAD, which is currently 2.1 |
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| 01:42.10 | *** join/#bzflag testmonkey (n=TestMonk@81-86-32-239.dsl.pipex.com) |
| 01:46.44 | CIA-3 | opencombat: 03jeffm2501 * 10GPx01/common/ (inc/prefs.h src/prefs.cpp): start changed to the config system to give it groups and a more flexable format for storing info |
| 01:47.39 | spldart | that! that's it!!! is that an update to the bzflag code that goes to cvs? |
| 01:48.03 | spldart | the mega ultra maya maya not release to the public version |
| 01:50.00 | *** join/#bzflag TD-Linux (n=TD-Linux@24-159-197-101.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com) |
| 01:50.33 | blast007 | spldart: no, that's not BZFlag |
| 01:50.38 | spldart | :( |
| 01:50.41 | spldart | poopies |
| 01:50.43 | spldart | but I'm runnning |
| 01:50.45 | spldart | hehehe |
| 01:55.22 | spldart | well crap.. I have bzfs running but it's no outputing. IE on my addy comes up with nothing. not in list server. bzadmin auto closes |
| 01:55.27 | spldart | damn... I killed it :( |
| 01:55.47 | spldart | logfile shows large packet recieved over and over |
| 01:57.45 | spldart | Player [0] 67.10.221.4 huge packet possible attack removed large packet recvd over and over and over |
| 01:57.54 | spldart | my addy |
| 01:58.05 | spldart | must not like my attempts at logging in |
| 01:59.07 | blast007 | hmm |
| 01:59.21 | blast007 | what version is the server and client? |
| 01:59.26 | blast007 | (hint: -version) |
| 02:01.04 | spldart | nope definitely doesn't work :( |
| 02:01.30 | blast007 | can someone give voice to TD-Linux? :) |
| 02:02.08 | spldart | bzadmin comes up with econnreset pipe over and over |
| 02:02.27 | orange | should use some chanserv tools to allow autovoice for some folks, and allow the use of the voice command for others |
| 02:02.52 | blast007 | yeah, I tried the /cs method, but I don't have access ;) |
| 02:03.22 | spldart | BZFlag2.0.5b4 client and bzadmin will not log in. Internet explorer directed to the addy:5154 stays blank, how do I get version of server bzfs? |
| 02:03.27 | orange | level 1 could be autovoice, and you could autovoice users who you know |
| 02:03.40 | orange | and level 5 or whatever could give voice, which would allow those people to use chanserv to voice others |
| 02:03.46 | orange | like a mini-admin |
| 02:03.51 | blast007 | spldart: bzfs -version |
| 02:04.02 | blast007 | or telnet localhost 5154 |
| 02:04.08 | blast007 | that gives you the protocol version |
| 02:05.02 | spldart | 2.1.6.2006.1.5 |
| 02:05.17 | spldart | is that what you needed? |
| 02:05.53 | blast007 | that's 2.1 |
| 02:05.56 | blast007 | 2.1 > 2.0 |
| 02:06.01 | blast007 | thus, no talkie |
| 02:06.21 | blast007 | did you grab the -r v2_0branch from CVS? |
| 02:06.50 | spldart | no |
| 02:06.59 | blast007 | then you got 2.1 |
| 02:07.03 | spldart | ok |
| 02:07.17 | spldart | can I get the 2.1 client for win too? |
| 02:07.24 | blast007 | you'd have to build it |
| 02:07.32 | spldart | on lin or win? |
| 02:07.35 | blast007 | win |
| 02:07.40 | spldart | :( |
| 02:07.43 | spldart | me sad now |
| 02:07.52 | blast007 | well, technically you could do it on linux, bux that rather involved |
| 02:07.57 | blast007 | but that's* |
| 02:08.09 | blast007 | involves setting up a cross compiler |
| 02:08.20 | spldart | I'll recompile linux with the -r v2_0branch instead |
| 02:08.27 | spldart | grrrrr |
| 02:08.39 | spldart | does anyone play 2.1 yet? |
| 02:08.50 | blast007 | no |
| 02:09.00 | spldart | will they? |
| 02:09.13 | blast007 | 2.2 will be the offical release version of 2.1 |
| 02:09.18 | spldart | ah |
| 02:09.25 | blast007 | just like 1.9 was for 1.10 |
| 02:09.28 | spldart | Is there an ETA on 2.2? |
| 02:09.32 | blast007 | nope |
| 02:09.45 | spldart | so recompile if I want to server the public |
| 02:09.49 | spldart | umm |
| 02:09.50 | blast007 | sometime between now, and never ;) |
| 02:09.58 | blast007 | give or take a year |
| 02:10.01 | spldart | LOL |
| 02:10.15 | spldart | are there any other servers running 2.1? |
| 02:10.19 | blast007 | some |
| 02:10.24 | orange | td-linux says he plays 2.1 |
| 02:10.28 | blast007 | mainly by devs |
| 02:10.29 | blast007 | heh |
| 02:10.42 | blast007 | some play it I guess |
| 02:11.52 | spldart | is 2.1 compatible with the list server |
| 02:11.59 | spldart | I guess it is |
| 02:11.59 | blast007 | yes |
| 02:12.41 | *** join/#bzflag Guest902 (n=46acc47a@genesis.concept69.de) |
| 02:15.55 | spldart | ah... just had to jump in spiral and vaporize a few tank carcus |
| 02:17.45 | spldart | so... cvs -d:pserver:anonymous@cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/bzflag -r v2_0branch login??? |
| 02:18.37 | TimRiker | ~bzflagcvs |
| 02:18.39 | ibot | cvs -d :pserver:anonymous@cvs.bzflag.org:/cvsroot/bzflag co -r v1_10branch bzflag |
| 02:18.51 | spldart | ah sweet |
| 02:19.04 | orange | TimRiker: can you +v TD-Linux? |
| 02:19.05 | spldart | I'mma copy and backup my old cvs'd directory first |
| 02:19.09 | TimRiker | ibot: no bzflagcvs is <reply> cvs -d :pserver:anonymous@cvs.bzflag.org:/cvsroot/bzflag co -r v2_0branch bzflag |
| 02:19.10 | ibot | okay, TimRiker |
| 02:19.38 | TimRiker | spldart: and you may need a cvs -d :pserver:anonymous@cvs.bzflag.org:/cvsroot/bzflag login first. |
| 02:20.00 | *** mode/#bzflag [+v TD-Linux] by TimRiker |
| 02:20.29 | spldart | thanks... i just accidentily built the 2.1 :( |
| 02:20.44 | orange | thanks TimRiker |
| 02:20.47 | blast007 | spldart: make sure not to use v1_10branch |
| 02:20.54 | TD-Linux | switch directories and build 2.0 separately... then you can keep your 2.1 for the future :) |
| 02:20.57 | blast007 | use v2_0branch ;) |
| 02:21.29 | spldart | Hrm.... How do I move a folder with stuff inside to another directory in terminal again? |
| 02:21.36 | spldart | :evil smile" |
| 02:21.45 | blast007 | mv something/ somethingelse/ |
| 02:21.55 | spldart | exclellent |
| 02:24.04 | blast007 | lol |
| 02:24.11 | spldart | I'm allergic to pussies |
| 02:24.18 | blast007 | that sounded wrong |
| 02:24.23 | spldart | LOL |
| 02:24.29 | spldart | My wife shaves hers cuz of that |
| 02:24.30 | spldart | LOL |
| 02:24.39 | spldart | sorry dev's |
| 02:25.34 | spldart | ok.. cvs new old build stuff |
| 02:25.59 | TD-Linux | when I thought the BZFlag community still had a bit of common sense left in them... http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?t=6481 |
| 02:27.42 | spldart | woohoo got 2.0 coming down now |
| 02:31.10 | spldart | OMG lame thread on BB :( |
| 02:31.14 | wizatcomp | TD-Linux: argh... that's just begging to go to an all-out flamewar |
| 02:31.21 | spldart | Keep religion out of gaming |
| 02:31.28 | wizatcomp | yes |
| 02:31.48 | TD-Linux | awful... anyway, what do aliens at all have to do with it? |
| 02:32.11 | TD-Linux | it's so incredibly stupid..... |
| 02:32.28 | spldart | I have a fanatically religious belief in science and technology but you don't see me throwing it in peoples faces ;) |
| 02:34.29 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03brlcad * 10bzflag/BUGS: (log message trimmed) |
| 02:34.29 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: idbans do not respect the antiban permission; idbans report the wrong time |
| 02:34.29 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: remaining on a idbanlist; a banned registered player that gets added to both the |
| 02:34.29 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: banList and idBanList is not listed in the latter on a idbanlist yet prevented |
| 02:34.29 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: from joining even after the ban is removed from the banList... if banning is |
| 02:34.30 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: going to auto-add to multiple lists, unbanning should do the same -- if it |
| 02:34.32 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: cannot, then should not add to multiple lists, just asking for admin problems. |
| 02:34.53 | spldart | So is ^ bzflag updates? |
| 02:35.09 | wizatcomp | i'd say bug updates |
| 02:35.13 | spldart | or at least changes in code for testing |
| 02:35.17 | menotume | no |
| 02:35.24 | menotume | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:35.35 | menotume | you can test the BUGS text file :) |
| 02:35.37 | brlcad | spldart: that is an update to a file in cvs |
| 02:35.50 | brlcad | BUGS text file, not code |
| 02:35.59 | spldart | Bugs? |
| 02:36.02 | brlcad | just jotting down notes for some problems noticed |
| 02:36.04 | spldart | Was is Das? |
| 02:36.10 | spldart | Aaahh |
| 02:36.22 | spldart | memo to oneself... code might need fix here and there? |
| 02:36.36 | brlcad | look at the file if you have sources |
| 02:36.44 | brlcad | or on the sf.net project site |
| 02:36.52 | spldart | downloading now |
| 02:37.14 | spldart | just finished gettng it :) |
| 02:40.36 | spldart | HEHE...looking at bugs |
| 02:40.48 | spldart | and ./autogening.... again |
| 02:41.14 | brlcad | again? |
| 02:41.33 | spldart | downloaded 2.0 from cvs... making it again |
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| 02:42.25 | spldart | I guess I should have skipped autogen this time |
| 02:42.33 | spldart | should I skip configure too? |
| 02:42.38 | spldart | no |
| 02:42.40 | spldart | prolly not |
| 02:43.09 | brlcad | you only run autogen.sh once |
| 02:43.41 | brlcad | unless a Makefile.am file changes or the configure.ac changes during a cvs update |
| 02:43.53 | blast007 | he got the 2.0 fresh |
| 02:44.03 | blast007 | had 2.1 before |
| 02:44.10 | spldart | there yah go |
| 02:44.21 | spldart | I moved 2.1 up a directory called bzbackup |
| 02:44.26 | spldart | then cvs'd 2.0 |
| 02:44.29 | spldart | and starting over |
| 02:45.00 | spldart | and I'm seriously considering putting x-window-system on this rig and running two servers. |
| 02:45.07 | spldart | a test 2.1 and a regular 2.0 |
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| 02:45.42 | spldart | I could compile a 2.1 client on my dually and play my test server with that :) |
| 02:45.58 | spldart | How would I go about installing 2.0 and 2.1 on the same machine? |
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| 02:46.31 | spldart | well... 2.0 and 2.1 bzfs anyway |
| 02:46.39 | blast007 | you wouldn't install them |
| 02:46.44 | blast007 | just copy the binary |
| 02:47.02 | blast007 | for me, I have a bzfs directory in my home directory |
| 02:47.09 | spldart | oh |
| 02:47.10 | blast007 | then in there I have dirs for 2.1 and 2.0 |
| 02:47.18 | spldart | where is the binary in the final comiple? |
| 02:47.24 | blast007 | src/bzfs/bzfs |
| 02:47.29 | spldart | kew |
| 02:47.34 | spldart | that makes it easy |
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| 02:47.52 | blast007 | probably want to strip it first, to decrease the size |
| 02:48.02 | spldart | can I use a single map and .conf file but seperate logfile/reportfile/bantankfiles? |
| 02:48.13 | blast007 | conf might be different |
| 02:48.18 | spldart | last time I stripped it I couldn't make it run |
| 02:48.45 | blast007 | I only share the world files, and the DB files (including report) |
| 02:49.09 | blast007 | though report you might want seperate |
| 02:49.16 | blast007 | that way you know which server it was for |
| 02:49.27 | spldart | yeppers |
| 02:49.29 | blast007 | I usually only run one server at a time, and only for testing |
| 02:49.40 | spldart | I guess this is something you are already doing :) |
| 02:50.31 | spldart | now that I think about it I would definitely want to run seperate .conf files |
| 02:52.50 | blast007 | I set up a script to run them too |
| 02:53.27 | blast007 | bzfs -conf test.conf | tee -a test.log |
| 02:53.40 | blast007 | tee is handy, because it writes to a file, as well as the terminal |
| 02:54.02 | spldart | oh really? |
| 02:54.16 | spldart | do I need to get that... like less and other little apps? |
| 02:54.43 | spldart | or is it intergrel with linux |
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| 03:39.42 | spldart | Ah... It tworks... it's teeing all over terminal and logfile :) |
| 03:40.54 | spldart | Ah helwlw yeaaahh |
| 03:41.07 | DTRemenak | heh |
| 03:41.16 | DTRemenak | would you like some coffee with your tee? |
| 03:41.23 | brlcad | hehe |
| 03:41.32 | spldart | Tomorrow I'm x-window-system and fluxboxing tis boxen and doing bzfs 2.0 and 2.1 :) |
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| 03:44.55 | spldart | ooo ooo ooo |
| 03:45.00 | spldart | I know |
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| 03:45.23 | spldart | I'mma try to build on linux on dually... was was the dual processor thingy -j2? |
| 03:46.26 | spldart | be back on linux |
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| 03:50.57 | DTRemenak | -jn where n is # of simultaneous threads. generally processors+1 gives best performance (e.g. -j3 on dual, -j5 on a quad) |
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| 03:55.01 | spldart | what happened? |
| 03:55.15 | DTRemenak | #bzflag is currently mode +m. presumably someone was causing trouble |
| 03:55.23 | DTRemenak | when you got kicked off, you lost voice |
| 03:55.38 | spldart | oh... ah.. dually just finished downloading bzflag from cvs |
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| 03:56.04 | spldart | where should I use the -j3 ? |
| 03:56.11 | DTRemenak | on make |
| 03:56.40 | DTRemenak | e.g. "make -s -j3 install" or whatever |
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| 03:57.26 | brlcad | -j200 |
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| 03:59.25 | spldart | heh... forgot I needed to get autogen and automake on this machine hehe |
| 03:59.57 | blast007 | automake and autoconf |
| 03:59.59 | spldart | curl-config was not found |
| 04:00.05 | blast007 | install curl dev |
| 04:00.09 | spldart | got automake and autoconf installed now |
| 04:00.36 | blast007 | you'll want curses and SDL dev too |
| 04:00.41 | blast007 | probably ncurses |
| 04:01.23 | spldart | installing now |
| 04:01.25 | spldart | hehe |
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| 04:02.27 | spldart | woah... which ncurses though... there are lots :eek: |
| 04:04.01 | spldart | ah. libncurses5-dev came down auto with libsdl1.2-dev |
| 04:04.49 | spldart | configure is looking happier4 |
| 04:07.51 | spldart | make is kicking booty |
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| 04:08.25 | spldart | when you do xscreenshot where is the pic? |
| 04:09.22 | lan56 | DTRemenak, thanks for the voice |
| 04:09.24 | spldart | woah |
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| 04:15.01 | spldart | hrm.... |
| 04:17.09 | spldart | how would you start bzflag client from terminal? |
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| 04:25.45 | DTRemenak | that better, sgk284? |
| 04:26.16 | sgk284 | haha thanks! |
| 04:26.45 | sgk284 | why the new rules on #bzflag (new being a relative term, haven't been on in a month or two) |
| 04:27.10 | DTRemenak | someone was spamming through proxies, iirc. was supposed to be temporary, will probably be turned off soon |
| 04:27.18 | sgk284 | ahh okay |
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| 04:31.00 | TimRiker | need a voice-after-x-seconds patch for blootbot. ;-) |
| 04:31.15 | sgk284 | :) |
| 04:31.33 | DTRemenak | that'd be nifty :) |
| 04:32.09 | sgk284 | a captcha-esque question/answer system could be fun to code:) |
| 04:32.15 | sgk284 | albeit a bit more complicated |
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| 04:37.16 | BenUrban | thanks |
| 04:37.28 | BenUrban | that's an awful long time to hold my breath ;) |
| 04:37.53 | DTRemenak | heh :) |
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| 04:43.49 | spldart | night all |
| 04:44.09 | brlcad | sgk284: yeah, just temporary |
| 04:45.08 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03trepan 07v2_0branch * 10bzflag/ (3 files in 2 dirs): revert _idleTime addition |
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| 05:06.40 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03lan56 * 10bzflag/Dev-C++/ (bzflag.dev bzfs.dev): link libcurl.a, not libcurldll.a; it doesn't (shouldn't?) exist |
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| 05:38.12 | SportChick | ~menotume++ |
| 05:38.18 | SportChick | ~brlcad++ |
| 05:38.39 | menotume | SportChick++ |
| 05:38.49 | menotume | ~brlcad-- |
| 05:38.59 | menotume | ~SportChick++ |
| 05:39.12 | menotume | ~brlcad++ |
| 05:39.13 | menotume | :P |
| 05:39.18 | brlcad | heh |
| 05:39.22 | menotume | ~brlcad++ |
| 05:41.26 | SilverFox | what's that about? |
| 05:41.33 | SportChick | silve: |
| 05:41.40 | SportChick | SilverFox: see below |
| 05:41.46 | SportChick | ~karma SportChick |
| 05:41.46 | ibot | sportchick has karma of 110 |
| 05:42.15 | SilverFox | ~karma SilverFox |
| 05:42.15 | ibot | silverfox has karma of 3 |
| 05:42.21 | orange | awww |
| 05:42.26 | orange | ~silverfox++ |
| 05:42.30 | SilverFox | that's sad. |
| 05:42.32 | orange | for running silvercat |
| 05:42.40 | SilverFox | ~karma silverfox |
| 05:42.40 | ibot | silverfox has karma of 4 |
| 05:42.45 | lan56 | ~silverfox++ |
| 05:42.49 | lan56 | for the same reason as orange's |
| 05:42.58 | SilverFox | I'm broke. |
| 05:43.14 | lan56 | well a little super glu could fix that :) |
| 05:43.58 | SilverFox | when I talk to ibot privately, he says 5 |
| 05:44.00 | SilverFox | wierd. |
| 05:44.08 | SilverFox | or is ibot a she? |
| 05:44.16 | brlcad | it goes up after each ++ |
| 05:44.18 | lan56 | because I added one after you did public check |
| 05:44.21 | brlcad | she is a she |
| 05:44.42 | orange | ~gender |
| 05:44.44 | ibot | I'm hermaphroditic |
| 05:44.49 | orange | uh-huh |
| 05:44.50 | brlcad | she's just confused too |
| 05:45.09 | brlcad | ~literal gender |
| 05:45.10 | ibot | "gender" is "<reply> I'm (gay|lesbian|female|sexless|male|hermaphroditic|pregnant|not sure)" |
| 05:45.36 | lan56 | she is apparently liberal too |
| 05:46.05 | SilverFox | embrace diversity. |
| 05:46.23 | SilverFox | around the throat. |
| 05:47.08 | SilverFox | how do you teach ibot responses like that? |
| 05:47.11 | brlcad | if you read back through ibot's roots, her original caretaker/mother proclaimed her as such |
| 05:51.06 | brlcad | ~silverfox is quite a silver fox, living in a little silver fox hole, shooting tiny silver bullets at little foxy tanks |
| 05:51.07 | ibot | ...but silverfox is already something else... |
| 05:51.15 | brlcad | oh, is it |
| 05:51.18 | brlcad | ~silverfox |
| 05:51.19 | ibot | i heard silverfox is the pillboxenest pillboxer that er' pillboxed. |
| 05:51.28 | brlcad | heh |
| 05:51.38 | brlcad | ~silverfox is also quite a silver fox, living in a little silver fox hole, shooting tiny silver bullets at little foxy tanks |
| 05:51.39 | ibot | okay, brlcad |
| 05:51.40 | orange | lol |
| 05:52.13 | menotume | ~silverfox |
| 05:52.14 | ibot | i guess silverfox is the pillboxenest pillboxer that er' pillboxed. quite a silver fox, living in a little silver fox hole, shooting tiny silver bullets at little foxy tanks |
| 05:52.24 | menotume | ~silverfox |
| 05:52.26 | ibot | from memory, silverfox is the pillboxenest pillboxer that er' pillboxed. quite a silver fox, living in a little silver fox hole, shooting tiny silver bullets at little foxy tanks |
| 05:53.39 | SilverFox | ~silverfox |
| 05:53.40 | ibot | methinks silverfox is the pillboxenest pillboxer that er' pillboxed. quite a silver fox, living in a little silver fox hole, shooting tiny silver bullets at little foxy tanks |
| 05:54.30 | SilverFox | lol |
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| 08:03.18 | DTRemenak | expunging? |
| 08:03.36 | brlcad | the code that kicks you out when you're sealed |
| 08:03.40 | DTRemenak | ahh |
| 08:03.44 | brlcad | it was frame based |
| 08:03.49 | brlcad | made it time based |
| 08:04.03 | brlcad | yet I'm on a remote machine with no means to test |
| 08:04.04 | DTRemenak | to me, expunging implies a deletion or erasure |
| 08:04.10 | brlcad | yeah yeah |
| 08:04.21 | brlcad | expelling |
| 08:04.36 | brlcad | your presence inside the object is deleted |
| 08:04.44 | brlcad | as you are slowly purged |
| 08:04.57 | DTRemenak | heh |
| 08:05.07 | DTRemenak | ~dict 1 expunge |
| 08:05.31 | brlcad | you settle your account with the obstacle (seal the deal, per se.. hence "sealed") |
| 08:05.35 | DTRemenak | heh :) |
| 08:05.47 | DTRemenak | you stretch those definitions like rubber :) |
| 08:06.08 | DTRemenak | but it's all good |
| 08:06.12 | brlcad | better than blotting them out, as with pen (i.e. expunging the definitions) |
| 08:06.16 | DTRemenak | heh |
| 08:06.54 | brlcad | hit me, hit me, lucky 7 |
| 08:07.34 | brlcad | mm.. rolled away, presumably for insanity too.. i was thinking of bed |
| 08:07.43 | brlcad | crasie talk though |
| 08:07.58 | DTRemenak | heh :) |
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| 08:23.56 | brlcad | ciao tupone |
| 08:24.06 | Tupone | hi brlcad |
| 08:24.07 | brlcad | care to test my change? :) |
| 08:24.14 | Tupone | your changes? |
| 08:24.42 | brlcad | made the expel time based instead of frame based, but don't have a means to test here |
| 08:25.05 | Tupone | I just see the BUGS changes :) |
| 08:27.49 | brlcad | hadn't commited yet |
| 08:28.08 | brlcad | didn't want to commit it blindly |
| 08:28.26 | Tupone | if you commit in unstable, there is no problem, I think. Nobody uses it |
| 08:28.56 | brlcad | heh |
| 08:33.12 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03brlcad * 10bzflag/src/bzflag/ (LocalPlayer.cxx LocalPlayer.h): |
| 08:33.12 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: rework the 'stuck' unsticking code to be time-based instead of frame-based so |
| 08:33.13 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: that behavior is consistent regardless of the framerate. instead of 100 frames, |
| 08:33.13 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: currently opting for 0.5 seconds before starting their eject. renamed the tense |
| 08:33.13 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: on the 'expelled' vars to present since it's what we need to do, not what we |
| 08:33.13 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: did. |
| 08:33.35 | brlcad | should be safe to commit to stable too presuming it works and I didn't swap a sun explode with a null or something |
| 08:33.49 | brlcad | but i'll let some fine gentleman test it first |
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| 08:41.49 | *** topic/#bzflag is http://BZFlag.org/ || http://my.BZFlag.org/bb/ || http://my.BZFlag.org/ || http://cia.navi.cx/stats/project/BZFlag || http://BZFlag.org/wiki/GettingHelp || http://BZFlag.org/wiki/Download || #bzchat for casual chat || paste to http://bzflag.pastebin.ca || CVS HEAD is now 2.1 unstable, commit stable to v2_0branch | if you don't have voice and need it, just msg an op |
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| 08:55.04 | Tupone | brlcad: a segv at joining :) |
| 08:56.25 | Tupone | LocalPlayer.cxx:446 obstacle is NULL |
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| 11:46.19 | Tupone | I wonder why we attract freenode staff :/ |
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| 13:14.23 | sgk284 | did someone approach brian dotson about his cheat client? he took it down for now as a result of mass cheating :) maybe this nonsense on secretplace will settle down soon |
| 13:24.22 | *** mode/#bzflag [-m] by brlcad |
| 13:24.29 | *** mode/#bzflag [-v Birdie] by brlcad |
| 13:24.34 | *** mode/#bzflag [+v Birdie] by brlcad |
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| 13:49.53 | orchid | sgk284: I think so |
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| 13:51.09 | orchid | ahh meh |
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| 13:51.54 | twb | I was getting the "error unpacking world database" problem with Debian/PPC/unstable's bzflag 1.0.2 and 1.0.4 packages. I was told to try building it myself. I just tried that and I still get the error. Any suggestions? |
| 13:53.54 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o orchid] by ChanServ |
| 13:54.22 | *** mode/#bzflag [+v LePoulpe303] by orchid |
| 13:56.36 | *** mode/#bzflag [-o orchid] by orchid |
| 14:00.11 | _Manu_ | ToughShooter, he removed the link only for stoping others using his cheat client |
| 14:02.02 | orchid | twb: every server? |
| 14:03.12 | twb | orchid: dunno. Lemme try some moe |
| 14:03.12 | _Manu_ | bzflag 1.0.2? |
| 14:03.14 | twb | *more |
| 14:03.52 | ToughShooter | _Manu_: It seems like his client had unchanged builddate, so they all had that one certain built date..that is why he removed I think |
| 14:04.40 | ToughShooter | and the spammers we have here nowadays might violate the GPL |
| 14:04.46 | twb | What do the colours mean on the server names? Ping time? |
| 14:04.57 | ToughShooter | twb: no |
| 14:04.57 | orchid | game mode |
| 14:05.04 | orchid | ctf, htr etc |
| 14:05.10 | twb | Okie |
| 14:05.11 | ToughShooter | yeah, like number of shots |
| 14:05.31 | twb | orchid: yeah, it happens on all the servers I tried. |
| 14:05.49 | LePoulpe303 | anyone knows where i can find a 80x15 bzflag logo for a web page ? |
| 14:06.09 | twb | Oh, and bzflag appears to be using 99% of my CPU for no apparent reason. |
| 14:06.11 | menotume | 80x15 ? |
| 14:06.27 | menotume | odd perspective |
| 14:06.36 | LePoulpe303 | menotume : standard buttons on www if i remeber well |
| 14:07.06 | menotume | could be yes |
| 14:07.06 | ToughShooter | twb: The client always grabbed as much CPU as it could, maybe you want to try out the new energy saver function |
| 14:07.45 | twb | ToughShooter: eh? |
| 14:07.53 | LePoulpe303 | menotune : i'm buillding my website ; i would need one on bottom left http://lepoulpe.ifrance.com/bzmanager/index.html |
| 14:07.58 | twb | Before it used to only use something like 60%, IIRC. |
| 14:09.06 | brlcad | twb: i find that hard to believe.. it's supposed to utilize 100% unless you turn on energy saver |
| 14:09.34 | twb | You mean the thing that turns your monitor off after n minutes? |
| 14:09.45 | brlcad | heh |
| 14:09.47 | menotume | lol |
| 14:09.52 | brlcad | no, but similar idea |
| 14:09.57 | ToughShooter | I have always nearly 100% load except when I turn on vsync or use the clients energy saver (< 100FPS gives me stuttering, though) |
| 14:10.19 | twb | Does it make a difference that I'm using -window -3dfx -view normal? |
| 14:10.28 | brlcad | shouldn't matter |
| 14:10.40 | twb | Maybe I've set it somewhere in .bzflag. |
| 14:10.50 | twb | I know I have all the effects off, including textures. |
| 14:11.12 | twb | Makes it fucking hard on maps where all the polys have a white background. |
| 14:11.57 | brlcad | watch the language please |
| 14:12.01 | twb | Sorry. |
| 14:12.32 | brlcad | so this is a pretty old machine it sounds |
| 14:12.38 | twb | It's a mac mini. |
| 14:12.45 | LePoulpe303 | menotume : if ever you need one day : http://www.lucazappa.com/brilliantMaker/buttonImage.php |
| 14:13.03 | twb | 1.4GHz G4, r250 graphics card. |
| 14:13.33 | menotume | LePoulpe303: ok, thx |
| 14:13.52 | twb | I suppose gamers might consider it old. It's about 1.25 times faster than the next best machine I deal with. |
| 14:14.38 | menotume | LePoulpe303: in 15 pix height, that's about all you'll get is text, can't imagine a logo in that size :) |
| 14:15.05 | brlcad | you say it's running debian? |
| 14:15.07 | menotume | a very simple one perhpas |
| 14:15.12 | twb | brlcad: yep |
| 14:15.24 | brlcad | well there's the problem ;) |
| 14:15.46 | LePoulpe303 | menotume : i'm making it ; you'll see once finished ;) |
| 14:15.59 | menotume | okies :) |
| 14:16.08 | twb | brlcad: would you care to elaborate? |
| 14:17.35 | orchid | ~frag brlcad |
| 14:17.37 | ibot | ACTION readies the nuke launcher and fires some rounds at brlcad |
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| 14:19.23 | brlcad | twb: not really other than shaking my head at what you've done to an otherwise great piece of hardware :) |
| 14:19.55 | twb | brlcad: you like OS X, I take it? |
| 14:20.03 | menotume | brlcad doesn't like debian ? |
| 14:20.41 | LePoulpe303 | menotume : done ; retry the website, but , you will see it's horrible :D |
| 14:21.02 | brlcad | it's not one of my favorite for various reasons, there are better systems out there imo |
| 14:21.17 | menotume | ahh, ok. i know very little of it |
| 14:21.37 | menotume | LePoulpe303: that button-maker website ? |
| 14:21.38 | twb | Better for what purpose? As desktops? Corporate SOEs? Games platforms? |
| 14:21.50 | LePoulpe303 | menotume : nope http://lepoulpe.ifrance.com/bzmanager/index.html |
| 14:21.50 | brlcad | it's the pop cult flavor, leaves a bad taste from a dev perspective |
| 14:22.20 | menotume | looks good, but what is that red thing ? :D |
| 14:22.31 | LePoulpe303 | menotume : lol |
| 14:22.38 | menotume | :) |
| 14:22.51 | brlcad | twb: by large, yes to all of those |
| 14:22.59 | LePoulpe303 | menotume : you mean the little thing squished between sourceforge and cbg ? :D |
| 14:23.40 | brlcad | twb: i'm not looking to get into an os argument, more power to you |
| 14:23.48 | twb | brlcad: Well have to agree to disagree. |
| 14:23.56 | brlcad | free will and all that good stuff, just not my preference |
| 14:24.13 | twb | brlcad: I've yet to find something that does what I want as well as Debian. |
| 14:24.34 | menotume | LePoulpe303: http://my.bzflag.org/league/templates/bzbb/tanktinyr.gif <== if you chop of the flag, it should be around 15 pix |
| 14:25.44 | LePoulpe303 | menotume : looks like a clothing iron :D |
| 14:26.33 | menotume | hehe |
| 14:27.23 | sniperyyd | wow a girl in here ;) |
| 14:27.25 | orchid | when I buy one |
| 14:27.39 | orchid | when they put more ram in them |
| 14:27.39 | twb | orchid: http://twb.ath.cx/notes/on-the-mac-mini.pdf |
| 14:27.56 | twb | It has enough RAM for Debian, but not OS X. |
| 14:28.04 | orchid | yeah |
| 14:28.13 | Chestal | how much RAM has it? |
| 14:28.16 | orchid | I think jeff added ram to his |
| 14:28.20 | twb | Mine has 128Mb, IIRC. |
| 14:28.30 | twb | Nope, 256Mb. |
| 14:31.45 | sniperyyd | LePoulpe303: i got bzmanager |
| 14:32.01 | sniperyyd | LePoulpe303: do this cant search for servers??? |
| 14:32.09 | sniperyyd | :S |
| 14:32.54 | LePoulpe303 | sniperyyd : the main goal of this is to manage different profiles |
| 14:33.00 | sniperyyd | ok |
| 14:33.09 | LePoulpe303 | for ex : i like to have opaque radar on DUB , transparent on gu |
| 14:33.48 | LePoulpe303 | and this will avert you when your mates are online too |
| 14:33.48 | sniperyyd | oh cool |
| 14:34.14 | LePoulpe303 | if you have python 2.4.x and wxpython 2.6 installed i can give you a test version |
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| 15:00.53 | SportChick | voice? |
| 15:00.57 | SportChick | nm |
| 15:01.06 | brlcad | no voice for you! |
| 15:02.13 | LePoulpe303 | menotume : ping ? |
| 15:02.54 | stahlsau | "soup nazi"? lol ;) |
| 15:03.22 | stahlsau | sup LePoulpe303 ;) |
| 15:03.37 | LePoulpe303 | stahlsau ; huh ? |
| 15:04.10 | stahlsau | nice colors on your website...mine is just gey in grey |
| 15:06.58 | LePoulpe303 | stahlsau : http://www.siteprocentral.com/cgi-bin/feed/feed.cgi |
| 15:08.00 | stahlsau | LePoulpe303: aw, lol ;) |
| 15:09.55 | LePoulpe303 | stahlsau : where is you web site ? |
| 15:10.17 | stahlsau | stahlsau.de ;) |
| 15:10.21 | LePoulpe303 | lol |
| 15:10.40 | LePoulpe303 | hey nice |
| 15:11.14 | LePoulpe303 | gradients ! dunno how to make them :D |
| 15:11.43 | LePoulpe303 | i like your categories too |
| 15:11.45 | stahlsau | the background? |
| 15:11.52 | stahlsau | its simple css |
| 15:11.59 | stahlsau | ty^^ ;) |
| 15:12.04 | LePoulpe303 | 3 and 4 in particular |
| 15:12.24 | stahlsau | hehe |
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| 15:29.58 | Birdie | brlcad: thx |
| 15:31.45 | brlcad | Birdie: de nada |
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| 15:38.46 | brlcad | ahh that one is messed up |
| 15:39.24 | Grumbler | whoot |
| 15:42.16 | Grumbler | http://jakehilton.com/funny/numanuma.html |
| 15:42.31 | Grumbler | shoot, they messed with that one as well |
| 15:46.13 | brlcad | too popular i suppose |
| 15:46.36 | brlcad | every kid and their brother wants to shove ugly pics of themselves in |
| 15:46.48 | twb | It's Friday? |
| 15:46.56 | brlcad | only on tuesdays |
| 15:47.01 | twb | Bloody hell, it's Saturday. |
| 15:47.06 | twb | I was gonna go to work today. |
| 15:47.33 | brlcad | i was too, but then I realized I never left |
| 15:49.48 | twb | I haven't left my house this year. |
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| 15:55.27 | sussi | hi |
| 15:55.38 | orchid | hello sussi |
| 16:05.11 | sussi | its curious how match kill or get killed depends on the acceleration what can u generate |
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| 16:11.27 | SportChick | |zongo|: hiya :) |
| 16:16.28 | ToughShooter | ~seen Tupone |
| 16:16.38 | ibot | tupone <n=Tupone@pdpc/supporter/active/Tupone> was last seen on IRC in channel #bzflag, 4h 30m 19s ago, saying: 'I wonder why we attract freenode staff :/'. |
| 16:17.23 | sussi | ~seen learner |
| 16:17.25 | ibot | learner is currently on #bzflag #brlcad |
| 16:17.46 | ToughShooter | sussi: leaner is there ;) |
| 16:18.04 | sussi | i'm a irc noob |
| 16:19.18 | ToughShooter | Knowing when /me knows nothing is worth something |
| 16:19.25 | *** part/#bzflag |zongo| (n=zongo@dhcp24-214.math.uni-bielefeld.de) |
| 16:21.24 | ToughShooter | It is a quality which often has an underestimated value |
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| 16:33.19 | SportChick | DTRemenak: ping |
| 16:33.24 | SportChick | brlcad: ping |
| 16:36.07 | SportChick | TimRiker: ping |
| 16:47.05 | Birdie | ~hb shahslau |
| 16:47.23 | Birdie | eh is the happy birthday thing removed? |
| 16:58.14 | orchid | ~literal hb |
| 16:58.16 | ibot | "hb" is "<reply> Simple language to create dynamic web content. URL: http://bachue.com/hb/" |
| 16:58.23 | DTRemenak | n SportChick: pong |
| 16:58.37 | menotume | n ? |
| 16:58.44 | menotume | has DTR been playing ? |
| 16:59.07 | menotume | ~hapbir shahslau |
| 16:59.08 | ibot | ACTION sings a variant of Happy Birthday (to avoid royalty fees) to shahslau |
| 16:59.14 | Birdie | aaah..thx |
| 16:59.17 | menotume | :) |
| 17:00.22 | DTRemenak | menotume: old habits die hard :) |
| 17:00.34 | menotume | ahhh :) |
| 17:00.40 | DTRemenak | and hey, maybe I do play every once in a while... :) |
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| 17:02.05 | menotume | DTRemenak: I won't tell :) |
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| 17:05.37 | Birdie | ~seen brad2901 |
| 17:05.48 | ibot | brad2901 <i=one@unaffiliated/brad2901> was last seen on IRC in channel #bzflag, 15h 58m 1s ago, saying: 'heh'. |
| 17:05.48 | Birdie | bots hate me today |
| 17:05.50 | Birdie | ah |
| 17:05.59 | Birdie | he had some lag |
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| 17:44.58 | Birdie | 213.210.195.66 |
| 17:45.01 | Birdie | there is he again |
| 17:45.24 | orange | and 83.148.112.166 |
| 17:46.27 | JeffM2501 | still fighting the good fight? |
| 17:46.40 | JBdiGriz | Which servers? |
| 17:46.44 | Birdie | actually he was nice today, he didnt spammed when i was there |
| 17:46.51 | Birdie | gamesunited |
| 17:46.56 | orange | silvercat is reg-only to talk now |
| 17:47.00 | orange | so he didn't spam there either |
| 17:47.28 | SportChick | alachua now |
| 17:47.39 | SportChick | back on gu |
| 17:47.43 | Birdie | grr |
| 17:47.43 | SportChick | birdie |
| 17:48.48 | JBdiGriz | It might be several people downloading the cheat from the bzcheat web site. That would explain the multitude of networks, and the lack of spam. |
| 17:49.02 | orange | it's the name that is the giveaway though |
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| 17:49.16 | orange | prepare the +m |
| 17:49.29 | *** part/#bzflag CGI56998844 (n=Joel@69.158.105.58) |
| 17:49.31 | Birdie | now its the ip orange gave |
| 17:49.36 | Birdie | so i think 2 people are doing it now |
| 17:49.47 | menotume | there are at least 2 |
| 17:49.55 | menotume | 2 came on at the same time on dub last night |
| 17:49.55 | JBdiGriz | That's in Europe. The first IP is in South America. |
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| 17:58.09 | SportChick | JeffM2501: ping |
| 17:58.19 | JeffM2501 | yes |
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| 18:01.55 | brlcad | ahh, no sussi |
| 18:03.42 | spldart | when you compile bz does the bzfs always show that date in the version number or does it just happen that the build had been contributed to that day? |
| 18:04.16 | JeffM2501 | IIRC it's the day you configured |
| 18:04.32 | spldart | IC... Was curious |
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| 18:05.05 | spldart | tonight I plan on trying to get two instances of bzfs on my server. one 2.0 and one 2.1... just to be silly :) |
| 18:05.08 | sniperyyd | if i have an teleporter i can set tanks not to drivetrough, but bullets can? |
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| 18:08.29 | sniperyyd | nobody answered my question :p |
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| 18:10.31 | Grumbler | brlcad: http://www.numanumaye.tk/ |
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| 18:13.09 | blast007 | sniperyyd: you could just try stuff...there is a shootthrough option for some objects |
| 18:13.32 | blast007 | or actually you'd want drivethrough |
| 18:13.55 | blast007 | but I'm not 100% sure if that would work, since I don't do maps ;) |
| 18:14.06 | Allied | what's he trying to do? |
| 18:14.11 | spldart | what would be a good map to host on a 2.1 test bzfs that few people are playing yet? something fun for low player counts. |
| 18:14.38 | JeffM2501 | the drive thru and shoot thru only work on collidable objects |
| 18:14.47 | spldart | preferably something that isn't being hosted at this time |
| 18:14.48 | sniperyyd | blast007: yep... but i want with teleporters... |
| 18:14.54 | JeffM2501 | I don't think thre is the level of controll that can tell you what goes thru a TP |
| 18:15.06 | JeffM2501 | sniperyyd, I don't think you can do that |
| 18:15.21 | sniperyyd | JeffM2501: k |
| 18:15.25 | sniperyyd | :( |
| 18:15.37 | JeffM2501 | the map format dosn't allow for total customisation |
| 18:15.47 | sniperyyd | ok |
| 18:16.52 | sniperyyd | how big is height of the tank? |
| 18:16.59 | sniperyyd | with normal server settings? |
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| 18:17.09 | JeffM2501 | 2.2 ish I think |
| 18:17.23 | JeffM2501 | shots are 1.8 IIRC |
| 18:17.40 | sniperyyd | oh.. so i can let the tank through... gtg modify lil bit :D |
| 18:17.50 | blast007 | _tankHeight and _muzzleHeight will give you the values that are used |
| 18:18.14 | Grumbler | dutchrai had such a great resource for such questions |
| 18:18.26 | RatOmeter | in what version was the variable "_cullDist" introduced? |
| 18:19.01 | blast007 | http://shellshock.bzflag.bz/guides-bzscience.html |
| 18:19.02 | JeffM2501 | probably some 2.0.5 build |
| 18:19.04 | JeffM2501 | check the history |
| 18:19.56 | RatOmeter | certainly, thanks. Begging some more... anyone have a Win32 binary for the latest build I could mooch, pretty please? |
| 18:20.20 | JeffM2501 | the ones on bzbb do not cut it for you? |
| 18:21.12 | RatOmeter | Uh, I'm probably going to have to plead brain fart as 2.0.4 is the lastest I can find there |
| 18:21.23 | Allied | 2.0.5b4 :) |
| 18:21.29 | sniperyyd | k i changed the map |
| 18:21.34 | sniperyyd | but i didnt test it ever |
| 18:21.43 | JeffM2501 | we post beta builds on the froums |
| 18:21.49 | Allied | http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?t=6147 |
| 18:21.53 | JeffM2501 | I'm NOT talking about the main page |
| 18:21.54 | Allied | that's b4 |
| 18:22.27 | Allied | RatOmeter, go to the link i gave - that's beta 4 ;) |
| 18:22.29 | brlcad | ~grumbler++ |
| 18:23.44 | RatOmeter | thanks, Allied. And I apologize for not doing due diligence in finding it on my own |
| 18:23.57 | Allied | np :) |
| 18:24.07 | Allied | glad to help |
| 18:24.29 | spldart | Oh wow... one of my threads got deleted :eek:' |
| 18:24.55 | Allied | lol |
| 18:26.33 | JeffM2501 | it can happen |
| 18:26.53 | JeffM2501 | if it's an old thread, the question is specific, answerd, and someone dredges it up |
| 18:27.00 | spldart | yep |
| 18:27.05 | spldart | someone dredged it up |
| 18:27.35 | spldart | iz kew |
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| 18:32.21 | ToughShooter | Pimpinella: ping |
| 18:32.52 | Allied | 2 secs for me |
| 18:32.58 | Allied | to Pimpinella that is |
| 18:35.18 | ToughShooter | menotume: ping |
| 18:35.28 | menotume | zing |
| 18:35.33 | menotume | ring-ding |
| 18:36.05 | ToughShooter | menotume: any known issues about countdown pause in 2.0.5? |
| 18:36.29 | ToughShooter | The counter doesn't stop when doing /countdown pause |
| 18:36.41 | menotume | hmm |
| 18:36.46 | ToughShooter | Do you know that? |
| 18:36.46 | Allied | what's /countdown? |
| 18:36.53 | menotume | during 'countdown' or during the match ? |
| 18:37.05 | ToughShooter | during the match |
| 18:37.15 | ToughShooter | if 5 minutes are left do /countdown pause |
| 18:37.16 | menotume | oh, and if you rejoin during a pause, the counter will appear to be running |
| 18:37.31 | ToughShooter | yes, and if it is at 0 it will finish |
| 18:37.50 | menotume | right, if it reaches 0 during a puase ... gameover |
| 18:37.51 | ToughShooter | Doing a resume will reset the time |
| 18:37.56 | menotume | right |
| 18:37.59 | ToughShooter | Can't that be fixed? |
| 18:38.05 | menotume | sure |
| 18:38.16 | ToughShooter | Is it already? |
| 18:38.27 | menotume | i've been meaning to do it, but i have too many other things on my stack |
| 18:38.35 | menotume | it will be fixed |
| 18:38.52 | menotume | if I do it, i'm re-wrting all that logic |
| 18:39.28 | RatOmeter | Gee. Downloads from bzflag.org are creepingly slow today. Would I be spinning my wheels in setting up torrents for the latest build(s)? |
| 18:39.52 | menotume | probably :) |
| 18:40.08 | RatOmeter | figured. probably few folks want them anyway |
| 18:40.29 | menotume | actually, i've never found the need for bit-torrents myself |
| 18:40.56 | ToughShooter | It is handy if a file is requested often |
| 18:41.50 | ToughShooter | It should be integrated into modern web browser, IMHO |
| 18:42.25 | menotume | go for it, use haskell :P |
| 18:42.30 | menotume | syr, couldn't resist |
| 18:42.46 | *** part/#bzflag Allied (n=Joel@69.158.105.58) |
| 18:43.00 | ToughShooter | menotume: Why would one use haskell for that task? That would be ludicrous |
| 18:43.09 | menotume | :) |
| 18:43.31 | menotume | but fun and challenging |
| 18:43.36 | ToughShooter | If you do mathematical stuff or parsers Haskell is cutting edge, otherwise not |
| 18:44.23 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03brlcad * 10admin/master-bans.txt: Public network abuse, cheating, impersonating players, disruptive behavior |
| 18:45.04 | JeffM2501 | how may Ips are masterbaned for them? |
| 18:47.15 | RatOmeter | ToughShooter: I think I suggested that over a year ago in a related /. thread. Browser integration seems the next logical step. imagine the URL "bitt://myfile.torrent" |
| 18:48.34 | blast007 | ToughShooter: http://www.bzflag.org/master-bans.txt |
| 18:49.11 | spldart | lol |
| 18:49.34 | spldart | --/reload banlist, /check banlist, new jerk added |
| 18:56.01 | JeffM2501 | mmmm ..."X-wing deed".....that is a nice item to have in inentory :) |
| 18:56.38 | ToughShooter | Wow, no spammers till now |
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| 19:31.25 | Mr_Molez | configure: error: Cannot find a type to use in place of socklen_t |
| 19:31.26 | Mr_Molez | anyone got any clue how to fix that. Im trying to build the latest cvs for windows |
| 19:32.16 | blast007 | what compiler? |
| 19:32.25 | Mr_Molez | mingw |
| 19:32.39 | blast007 | hrm, nvm...I don't use that ;) |
| 19:32.56 | Mr_Molez | can u suggest a better compiler ? no microsoft crap though :P |
| 19:33.14 | blast007 | ;) |
| 19:33.19 | blast007 | then I won't say anything |
| 19:33.25 | Mr_Molez | hehe |
| 19:34.44 | Mr_Molez | curious. what do u use ? |
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| 19:37.16 | JeffM2501 | it's ether mingw based systems or ms vc |
| 19:37.18 | JeffM2501 | that's about it |
| 19:38.24 | Mr_Molez | ahh ok |
| 19:38.32 | brlcad | Mr_Molez: sounds like you're missing some headers |
| 19:38.39 | brlcad | maybe a mingw dev package |
| 19:39.37 | brlcad | specifically, missing a sys/socket.h it sounds |
| 19:39.40 | Mr_Molez | ive compiled an earlier version of bzflag successfully. ive googled it and found a patch, just wanted to ask to see if there is an easier fix though :P |
| 19:40.06 | brlcad | this one: http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-gnulib/2005-12/msg00052.html ? |
| 19:40.18 | Mr_Molez | :P |
| 19:40.29 | Mr_Molez | yeh thats the one |
| 19:42.25 | brlcad | looks like a reasonable fix, though last time I used mingw, it had a viable sys/socket.h |
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| 19:42.42 | brlcad | still think something's been deleted/moved/renamed/changed/etc |
| 19:42.55 | brlcad | and the ambiguous PuMpErNiCkLe returns |
| 19:43.06 | brlcad | almost as opaque as Deepa |
| 19:43.57 | Mr_Molez | ill try reinstalling mingw |
| 19:45.35 | PuMpErNiCkLe | hey brlcad |
| 19:45.40 | PuMpErNiCkLe | Nice to see you too. :) |
| 19:46.41 | JBdiGriz | brlcad: Did you install a video cam? ;-) |
| 19:48.03 | brlcad | JBdiGriz: you should know very well that there's one there .. :) |
| 19:48.10 | brlcad | though I'm not there |
| 19:48.44 | JBdiGriz | Nope, it only shows a microphone. Try as I might, I can't "see" you. |
| 19:48.54 | brlcad | ahh, that's right |
| 19:49.08 | brlcad | i unplugged it to plug in the ipod |
| 19:49.13 | brlcad | need a firewire hub |
| 19:49.41 | JBdiGriz | That was an easy stocking stuffer. I think they are on sale at Fry's. |
| 19:49.52 | brlcad | yeah, i keep forgetting |
| 19:50.12 | brlcad | didn't need it until relatively recently |
| 19:50.23 | brlcad | lost my usb ibot cable |
| 19:50.29 | brlcad | er, yeah |
| 19:53.24 | Deepa | brlcad: atleast im not square, then people would have stored me in warehouses |
| 20:24.49 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03menotume * 10db/bzfls.php: Improved logging, added log (debug) level. |
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| 20:35.00 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03menotume * 10db/bzfls.php: tweek debug levels to reduce size of log. |
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| 20:52.31 | Grumbler | have a good weekend all |
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| 20:54.53 | gsnedders | Pimpinella: pong |
| 21:06.55 | ToughShooter | Umm, my client crashes when I press 'i' to join a server with newest CVS HEAD |
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| 21:26.13 | ToughShooter | brlcad: ping |
| 21:26.18 | brlcad | ToughShooter: pong |
| 21:26.31 | ToughShooter | The changes in localplayer.cxx are yours? |
| 21:26.42 | brlcad | depends |
| 21:26.53 | brlcad | if it works, then yes .. yes they are |
| 21:27.28 | ToughShooter | brlcad: When I click 'i' to spawn it gives be a crash: http://pastebin.com/493981 |
| 21:28.53 | brlcad | yeah, someone mentioned that |
| 21:29.41 | spldart | lol at brlcad's claim of only successful code :-p |
| 21:30.28 | brlcad | my claim? heh |
| 21:30.30 | ToughShooter | spldart: We all want to write code that works ;) |
| 21:30.45 | brlcad | "you must be new here" if you think that :) |
| 21:31.16 | ToughShooter | brlcad: if you can't reproduce I could provide shell access |
| 21:33.23 | brlcad | oh, i'm sure I can |
| 21:33.37 | brlcad | i couldn't test it last night, still haven't been home yet too |
| 21:35.11 | ToughShooter | Ah, I know being busy. Well, sorry for the duplicated report, I missed the one before. |
| 21:38.59 | brlcad | no, no.. good to see the stack, thanks |
| 21:40.40 | ToughShooter | I try to be helpful, if I can't fix then provide as much info as I can. |
| 21:43.05 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03dtremenak * 10bzflag/src/bzflag/LocalPlayer.cxx: don't crash on game entry |
| 21:43.18 | brlcad | heh |
| 21:43.33 | brlcad | ~DTRemenak++ |
| 21:43.43 | brlcad | it's not even windows stuff |
| 21:43.46 | DTRemenak | heh |
| 21:43.51 | DTRemenak | I do other stuff to ya know :) |
| 21:43.59 | brlcad | hmm.. i haven't done windows damage in ages |
| 21:44.02 | DTRemenak | true |
| 21:44.07 | brlcad | time for a header reorg! |
| 21:44.16 | DTRemenak | you haven't committed any massive changes in ages either :) |
| 21:44.24 | brlcad | true *sniff* |
| 21:44.25 | *** part/#bzflag silverfx (n=vircuser@204.10.247.1) |
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| 21:44.43 | DTRemenak | could bust some files into itty bitty pieces, that'd prolly break me :) |
| 21:45.01 | brlcad | hey.. i did commit the copyright thing, that 130 emails don't count? |
| 21:45.10 | DTRemenak | heh |
| 21:45.39 | DTRemenak | between you doing it to head and tim doing it along with ws to v2_0branch, I had a ton of conflicts when merging :) |
| 21:48.48 | brlcad | not my fault :) |
| 21:48.54 | brlcad | he's the one that ran ws too |
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| 21:50.06 | ToughShooter | When I make patches I have to copy all the whitespace, sigh |
| 21:52.04 | blast007 | I'm glad I'm not on the commits mailing list ;) |
| 21:53.27 | Nidhoggr | hrm. |
| 21:54.50 | Nidhoggr | I'm hearing a lot of stuff about a new rash of cheating. is it just because of the time off that people are bored? |
| 21:56.11 | DTRemenak | there are some posted cheat clients |
| 21:56.27 | DTRemenak | and a couple people screwing with them |
| 21:56.32 | Nidhoggr | :/ |
| 21:56.44 | DTRemenak | yeah |
| 21:57.13 | Nidhoggr | is it something that can be dealt with or is it overwealming? |
| 21:57.34 | blast007 | they're using proxies to get around bans |
| 21:57.46 | blast007 | or tunnels |
| 21:57.53 | ToughShooter | They have been all over the place but now it calms down, I don't hear that many about it now |
| 21:59.16 | Nidhoggr | I'm considering going to a reg-only setup. not sure how good or bad that might be. |
| 22:00.45 | orange_away | Nidhoggr: please talk to menotume about a stop-gap we're working on first... if you catch him now you can get some details... I gotta run :-/ |
| 22:00.57 | menotume | Hi Nidhoggr |
| 22:01.00 | menotume | :) |
| 22:01.06 | brlcad | howdy Nidhoggr |
| 22:02.48 | Nidhoggr | hi menu |
| 22:03.09 | menotume | :) |
| 22:03.14 | menotume | Nidhoggr: PM |
| 22:03.42 | ToughShooter | Nidhoggr: I've seen secretplace very emtpy recently, not sure whether reg-only would help in that case :( |
| 22:04.02 | Nidhoggr | nod. |
| 22:04.41 | ToughShooter | nice to see you're still reading the lists etc, though :) |
| 22:04.51 | Nidhoggr | I've actually considered shutting it down completely. planetmofo and a few others have made things a little less than worthwhile to maintain. |
| 22:05.39 | Nidhoggr | hi brlcad. :) |
| 22:06.25 | Nidhoggr | I just got pulled into dealing with some interpersonal things with some of my team... so I was catching up. |
| 22:06.44 | ToughShooter | Nidhoggr: Sorry to hear about it. Despite I don't like its current config it was the place where I first played BZFlag and learnt it loving. |
| 22:08.52 | Nidhoggr | I can understand why a group would form to start their own loose-ruled servers as a response to our stuff, but I really don't understand why they have to work so hard at making things difficult for us. |
| 22:09.43 | Nidhoggr | I have nothing against profanity, and have been known to make a sailor blush at times, but we have our rules for a reason. |
| 22:11.14 | ToughShooter | Some people aren't as smart or nice as others..the differences can be huge |
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| 22:19.49 | Chestal | what#s the procedure for lost bzbb password? |
| 22:20.52 | brad2901 | get an email sent to you... there's a "lost password" link on the login page |
| 22:20.56 | brlcad | any bzbb admin can reset it iirc |
| 22:21.03 | brad2901 | or that :) |
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| 22:22.20 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o JBdiGriz] by ChanServ |
| 22:22.23 | spldart | BBL time to go home :) "STOP! LINUX TIME!" |
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| 22:29.34 | Chestal | thanks, it#s not for me of course :-) |
| 22:30.32 | brlcad | DTRemenak: so does the new unstucking work? |
| 22:30.39 | brlcad | haven't heard anyone say yay/nay |
| 22:30.55 | DTRemenak | brlcad: dunno, I've not gotten stuck :) |
| 22:31.20 | _Manu_ | DTRemenak, just jump over a teleporter corner to test it ;) |
| 22:40.04 | _Manu_ | oh.. another kind of stuck :/ DTRemenak forget it ;) |
| 22:40.33 | DTRemenak | heh |
| 22:42.33 | _Manu_ | gnite |
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| 23:06.21 | spldart | Ok... is there an easiest way to run multiple instances of BZFS on linux? Do I have to resort to X to accomplish this? |
| 23:07.14 | Mr_Molez | cant u load them in ctrl alt f1, f2, f3 etc ? .. bzfs ? |
| 23:07.51 | DTRemenak | screen |
| 23:08.18 | spldart | is screen something I can pick up quick? |
| 23:08.25 | spldart | I was reading about it a bit |
| 23:08.26 | DTRemenak | yeah, it's pretty basic |
| 23:08.41 | DTRemenak | or just background them and redirect output to files |
| 23:08.44 | spldart | okies... I'll continue my google investiagion of screen |
| 23:08.57 | DTRemenak | bzfs -config myconfig 2> log & |
| 23:09.19 | spldart | ? |
| 23:09.31 | DTRemenak | redirect and background |
| 23:09.37 | DTRemenak | gives you your prompt back |
| 23:09.50 | orchid | spldart: http://bzgirl.bakadigital.com/conf/screenrc change the screen -t foo's to screen -t bzfs1 bzfs2 etc |
| 23:10.15 | spldart | thanks for the link :) |
| 23:10.17 | orchid | save it as ~/.screnrc and start screen |
| 23:11.20 | spldart | ah.. one more question... after a fresh cvs autogen automake etc. where can I get a bzfs app out of the bzflag directory to run without make install command? |
| 23:11.28 | DTRemenak | src/bzfs/bzfs |
| 23:11.42 | spldart | and I can run that right where it is with no other work to it? |
| 23:11.46 | DTRemenak | yup |
| 23:11.48 | spldart | If I so choose |
| 23:12.35 | spldart | Althought I'll probably do a user/bzfs20 and user/bzfs21 directory with each having it's own bzfs, conf etc |
| 23:25.11 | *** join/#bzflag orangeballz (i=orangeba@0-2pool59-210.nas3.daytona-beach2.fl.us.da.qwest.net) |
| 23:25.15 | orangeballz | HTTP://BZFLAGCHEAT.BLOGSPOT.COM !!! GO THERE FOR CHEATS. !!!! orange eats balls !!!!!!!!!!!! orange is Anus-Invader |
| 23:25.17 | orangeballz | HTTP://BZFLAGCHEAT.BLOGSPOT.COM !!! GO THERE FOR CHEATS. !!!! orange eats balls !!!!!!!!!!!! orange is Anus-Invader |
| 23:25.19 | orangeballz | HTTP://BZFLAGCHEAT.BLOGSPOT.COM !!! GO THERE FOR CHEATS. !!!! orange eats balls !!!!!!!!!!!! orange is Anus-Invader |
| 23:25.21 | orangeballz | HTTP://BZFLAGCHEAT.BLOGSPOT.COM !!! GO THERE FOR CHEATS. !!!! orange eats balls !!!!!!!!!!!! orange is Anus-Invader |
| 23:25.27 | orangeballz | HTTP://BZFLAGCHEAT.BLOGSPOT.COM !!! GO THERE FOR CHEATS. !!!! orange eats balls !!!!!!!!!!!! orange is Anus-Invader |
| 23:25.36 | Birdie | eh |
| 23:26.52 | menotume | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:26.59 | spldart | what the |
| 23:27.35 | spldart | I want an ip so he can be in the bad tanks file |
| 23:27.50 | menotume | well, look at his signon |
| 23:27.55 | blast007 | ~dns 0-2pool59-210.nas3.daytona-beach2.fl.us.da.qwest.net |
| 23:30.08 | PuMpErNiCkLe | lol |
| 23:30.32 | PuMpErNiCkLe | What a nitwit that guy is. |
| 23:30.36 | blast007 | PuMpErNiCkLe: this is far from funny |
| 23:31.11 | PuMpErNiCkLe | blast007: No, it's very funny... a guy comes into a dev-frequented channel advertising hacked version of the BZflag client... |
| 23:31.25 | blast007 | I don't call that funny |
| 23:31.27 | spldart | ah.. thanks... adding... |
| 23:31.30 | JBdiGriz | blogspot.com is owned by google. I wonder if they are willing to be a sponsor to this type of behavior. |
| 23:31.42 | PuMpErNiCkLe | blast007: It's funny the way the Darwin awards are funny. |
| 23:31.42 | spldart | banned for 9999999999 minutes |
| 23:31.43 | spldart | hehe |
| 23:31.47 | Birdie | jb: pls put on +m and give the people a voice |
| 23:32.20 | spldart | oh.... is the the reason for the ' |
| 23:32.25 | spldart | voice' thiung yesterday |
| 23:32.31 | blast007 | yeah |
| 23:32.39 | blast007 | been going on for several days |
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| 23:32.46 | Birdie | +m! |
| 23:32.50 | orangeballz | HTTP://BZFLAGCHEAT.BLOGSPOT.COM !!! GO THERE FOR CHEATS. !!!! orange eats balls !!!!!!!!!!!! orange is Anus-Invader |
| 23:32.50 | spldart | geez. the world abounds in class acts |
| 23:32.53 | orangeballz | HTTP://BZFLAGCHEAT.BLOGSPOT.COM !!! GO THERE FOR CHEATS. !!!! orange eats balls !!!!!!!!!!!! orange is Anus-Invader |
| 23:32.55 | orangeballz | HTTP://BZFLAGCHEAT.BLOGSPOT.COM !!! GO THERE FOR CHEATS. !!!! orange eats balls !!!!!!!!!!!! orange is Anus-Invader |
| 23:32.58 | orangeballz | HTTP://BZFLAGCHEAT.BLOGSPOT.COM !!! GO THERE FOR CHEATS. !!!! orange eats balls !!!!!!!!!!!! orange is Anus-Invader |
| 23:33.01 | orangeballz | HTTP://BZFLAGCHEAT.BLOGSPOT.COM !!! GO THERE FOR CHEATS. !!!! orange eats balls !!!!!!!!!!!! orange is Anus-Invader |
| 23:33.03 | orangeballz | HTTP://BZFLAGCHEAT.BLOGSPOT.COM !!! GO THERE FOR CHEATS. !!!! orange eats balls !!!!!!!!!!!! orange is Anus-Invader |
| 23:33.03 | Birdie | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:33.05 | orangeballz | HTTP://BZFLAGCHEAT.BLOGSPOT.COM !!! GO THERE FOR CHEATS. !!!! orange eats balls !!!!!!!!!!!! orange is Anus-Invader |
| 23:33.08 | orangeballz | HTTP://BZFLAGCHEAT.BLOGSPOT.COM !!! GO THERE FOR CHEATS. !!!! orange eats balls !!!!!!!!!!!! orange is Anus-Invader |
| 23:33.09 | orangeballz | HTTP://BZFLAGCHEAT.BLOGSPOT.COM !!! GO THERE FOR CHEATS. !!!! orange eats balls !!!!!!!!!!!! orange is Anus-Invader |
| 23:33.11 | orangeballz | HTTP://BZFLAGCHEAT.BLOGSPOT.COM !!! GO THERE FOR CHEATS. !!!! orange eats balls !!!!!!!!!!!! orange is Anus-Invader |
| 23:33.12 | *** kick/#bzflag [orangeballz!n=david@zero.navi.cx] by purple_cow (purple_cow) |
| 23:33.20 | purple_cow | channel ban list is full? |
| 23:33.28 | blast007 | guess so |
| 23:33.29 | purple_cow | good lord |
| 23:33.46 | Birdie | he doesnt seem to get bored |
| 23:33.57 | spldart | A sure sign of low brow |
| 23:33.58 | *** mode/#bzflag [-b *!*c6b6a366@*.bzflag.bz] by purple_cow |
| 23:34.17 | *** mode/#bzflag [+b *!*@*.nas3.daytona-beach2.fl.us.da.qwest.net] by purple_cow |
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| 23:38.00 | Birdie | how much bans can there be in a banlist on irc purple cow? |
| 23:38.14 | purple_cow | Birdie: quite a few... |
| 23:39.01 | blast007 | 32 it seems |
| 23:39.21 | blast007 | but there's a +L that freenode staff can apply that expands that |
| 23:39.53 | Birdie | wow there must have been banned a lot on #bzflag:) |
| 23:55.19 | cybo-mobile | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:55.35 | blast007 | /msg nickserv help regiser |
| 23:55.40 | cybo-mobile | ty |
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| 23:55.56 | cybo-mobile | ahh, not on irc, for the servers of bzflag |
| 23:56.09 | blast007 | ah |
| 23:56.15 | blast007 | http://my.bzflag.org/bb/ |
| 23:56.55 | cybo-mobile | if you register in the forums, you register with the servers? |
| 23:58.01 | SilverFox | cybo-mobile, yes |
| 23:58.31 | cybo-mobile | interesting, my google and preview of bzflag.org did not show this. |
| 23:58.33 | SilverFox | make sure to use the same user/pass for both. |
| 23:58.59 | cybo-mobile | perhaps an input into a faq would be in order? |
| 23:59.46 | spldart | Am I going to have issues running these bzfs 's right out of /bzflag/src/bzfs direcotries... they are hugely bigely huge |
| 23:59.55 | SilverFox | cybo-mobile, I agree. |
| 23:59.57 | spldart | 20meg |
