| 00:00.30 | bz1645 | does anbody know why my laptop will not respond to jumping forward? I can only jump backwards..... |
| 00:01.01 | bz1645 | in BZFlag of course |
| 00:01.03 | A_Meteorite | sounds like a key mapping issue... |
| 00:01.14 | retro | If you can drive the tank forward, then pressing the tab key should make it jump forward. |
| 00:01.18 | bz1645 | Yes, however, I checked the key mapping over many times |
| 00:01.24 | A_Meteorite | hmmm |
| 00:01.25 | retro | are you using the keys to drive the tank, or a mouse? |
| 00:01.31 | bz1645 | keyboard |
| 00:01.42 | retro | hrm, try a mouse or touchpad |
| 00:01.44 | A_Meteorite | I've had problems with going backwards after a jump |
| 00:01.51 | A_Meteorite | like holding down tab |
| 00:02.06 | A_Meteorite | but I assume you go backwards every single time |
| 00:02.23 | bz1645 | Ha, the only game I can successfully use a mouse in is Runescape. I never taught myself to use the mouse while playing BZ. |
| 00:02.48 | retro | well, just try it to help diagnose the problem please. :) |
| 00:02.52 | bz1645 | By the way, I do not drive backwards all the time, jumping forwards is better |
| 00:03.07 | retro | jumping is usually a precursor to death. :) |
| 00:04.02 | bz1645 | not all of the time, i got a pretty high score while jumping to get to a good position in that cool laser map, but when jumping backwards, you never know who's firing at you |
| 00:05.10 | bz1645 | btw, I know this is a little off topic, but is anybody here interested in reading sci-fi war stories? |
| 00:05.52 | bz1645 | ? |
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| 00:06.12 | bz1645 | Does anybody like reading sci-fi war stories? |
| 00:06.20 | A_Meteorite | no |
| 00:06.25 | bz1645 | pity.... |
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| 00:06.28 | ibunny | meh |
| 00:06.29 | A_Meteorite | heh |
| 00:06.33 | A_Meteorite | not me at least ;) |
| 00:06.36 | ibunny | hi guyz |
| 00:06.48 | bz1645 | i only asked, because I am currently writing one |
| 00:07.01 | A_Meteorite | ahh |
| 00:07.06 | A_Meteorite | what's its title? |
| 00:07.45 | bz1645 | my English teacher says its awesome so far, Its title is "Mercs Revenge" after the game G-Nome by 7th level back in 1997-98 |
| 00:07.56 | *** part/#bzflag ibunny (n=alex@pdpc/supporter/active/jolie) |
| 00:08.51 | bz1645 | Secret base in middle of desert, soldiers from Earth trying to destory it, its all good. |
| 00:08.57 | A_Meteorite | wow |
| 00:09.13 | A_Meteorite | I've never read a sci-fi war book but that sounds good |
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| 00:09.37 | A_Meteorite | oh, here's something slightly off-topic too... |
| 00:09.44 | bz1645 | Lots of killing, capturing, mayhem, swearing(not for younger people) puzzles within the story itself, just your average coo-yet-confusing-mess-with-your-head book |
| 00:09.54 | A_Meteorite | any good GUI-based Subversion utilities for Mac OS X? |
| 00:10.00 | A_Meteorite | heh |
| 00:10.04 | bz1645 | ? |
| 00:10.11 | wizatcom | A_Meteorite: subversion? |
| 00:10.14 | A_Meteorite | I already have a Subversion server working |
| 00:10.15 | BZBot | New news from opencombatproject: a libPNG based image reader that needs some testing |
| 00:10.21 | bz1645 | *confused* |
| 00:10.23 | A_Meteorite | it's better than CVS |
| 00:10.34 | A_Meteorite | lets you actually delete directories |
| 00:10.37 | A_Meteorite | :) |
| 00:10.38 | wizatcom | oh |
| 00:10.41 | wizatcom | nice |
| 00:10.42 | A_Meteorite | and is instant |
| 00:10.57 | A_Meteorite | unlike CVS - anonmyous access is not instant.. |
| 00:11.06 | A_Meteorite | (but that could be SF.net?) |
| 00:11.13 | wizatcom | it is SF |
| 00:11.17 | bz1645 | I originally thought i was going to go into a field with computers(for BZ), but I have switched to try and master in Math |
| 00:11.27 | wizatcom | the dev and anon servers are synced about every 6 hours |
| 00:11.32 | A_Meteorite | only problem is, I'm using svnX but it won't let me use SSL |
| 00:11.47 | A_Meteorite | I'm using a self-signed certificate |
| 00:11.59 | bz1645 | I'm studying precalculus and Geometry this year |
| 00:12.06 | A_Meteorite | awesome! |
| 00:13.04 | bz1645 | then Advanced Math, then Calculus my senior year |
| 00:14.24 | bz1645 | I've already learned Matrices which is in the end of the Precalculus book, which I thought was pretty funny |
| 00:14.32 | A_Meteorite | Matrices? |
| 00:14.35 | A_Meteorite | sounds advanced |
| 00:14.42 | bz1645 | look it up :) |
| 00:14.49 | A_Meteorite | hehe |
| 00:14.51 | wizatcom | matricies are fun |
| 00:15.01 | A_Meteorite | I'm working in Algebra so it is way beyond me |
| 00:15.13 | bz1645 | what grade r u in> |
| 00:15.15 | bz1645 | ? |
| 00:15.20 | A_Meteorite | not saying :P |
| 00:15.29 | A_Meteorite | hehe, I don't give that much info out ;) |
| 00:15.54 | bz1645 | lol. I'm a sophmore in High school, math is so much fun, except for English, and C |
| 00:16.48 | bz1645 | Oh here's a good problem |
| 00:17.05 | A_Meteorite | :) |
| 00:18.06 | bz1645 | Simplify: The square root of 28 time x to the second power plus the square root of 63 time x to the second power minus the square root of seven time x to the second power |
| 00:18.24 | A_Meteorite | ok, I'll work that out... |
| 00:18.36 | bz1645 | Want an easier one? |
| 00:18.43 | A_Meteorite | sure |
| 00:18.46 | A_Meteorite | :) |
| 00:18.55 | A_Meteorite | I don't like square roots that don't simplify |
| 00:20.14 | bz1645 | Simplify: 16 to the 5/2th power |
| 00:21.02 | A_Meteorite | 40 |
| 00:21.36 | A_Meteorite | 5/2 reduces to 2.5 |
| 00:21.44 | A_Meteorite | oh |
| 00:21.46 | A_Meteorite | gah |
| 00:22.05 | A_Meteorite | must be 2048 |
| 00:22.14 | A_Meteorite | *slaps myself* |
| 00:22.35 | A_Meteorite | I'm actually behind in Algebra *gasp* |
| 00:22.49 | bz1645 | Or you can try 16 to the square root of 3 times y minus 54 to the square root of 3 time y |
| 00:22.50 | A_Meteorite | am I right? |
| 00:23.00 | bz1645 | oh by the way your WRONG |
| 00:24.45 | A_Meteorite | y = -153,368 |
| 00:24.49 | A_Meteorite | ?? |
| 00:24.57 | A_Meteorite | I bet I'm way off |
| 00:25.03 | A_Meteorite | not good at word probs |
| 00:25.12 | bz1645 | the way to simplify 16 to the 5/2 power is: first yes 5/2 is = to 2.5. So get rid of the .5, so you are left with 16 to the second power. Then do 16 to the .5th power to find your answer. If it comes out to a decimal press the key that switches the decimal into a fraction, then simplify it from there |
| 00:25.13 | brad2901 | is this #math or something? :p |
| 00:25.51 | A_Meteorite | ahh |
| 00:26.03 | bz1645 | by the way woruld you like the answer to 16 to the square root of 3 times y minus 54 to the square root of 3 times y? |
| 00:26.11 | A_Meteorite | sure... |
| 00:26.39 | bz1645 | negative 2 to the square root of 3 times y |
| 00:26.46 | bz1645 | :P |
| 00:26.52 | A_Meteorite | oh :( |
| 00:26.53 | bz1645 | I win |
| 00:26.58 | A_Meteorite | you sure do |
| 00:26.58 | bz1645 | :) |
| 00:27.05 | wizatcom | math over irc is hard w/o sub and superscript |
| 00:27.56 | bz1645 | here's a easy one, if u have a scientific calculator get it out. simplify 8 to the 4/3rd power |
| 00:28.10 | A_Meteorite | I don't have a scientific calc |
| 00:28.18 | A_Meteorite | but I have a computer calc |
| 00:28.26 | bz1645 | man this one is easy (no offense, wizatcom try it.) |
| 00:28.38 | bz1645 | but your computer does.... |
| 00:28.49 | bz1645 | under accessories? |
| 00:28.53 | A_Meteorite | on a Mac |
| 00:28.56 | A_Meteorite | I got it open |
| 00:29.00 | bz1645 | do a search |
| 00:29.14 | A_Meteorite | fyi, I've only used a sci calc once before :P |
| 00:29.16 | wizatcom | bz1645: what is this calculator you speak of? I've only heard of an abacus |
| 00:29.19 | wizatcom | [sp] |
| 00:29.21 | A_Meteorite | lol |
| 00:29.22 | wizatcom | =p |
| 00:29.40 | bz1645 | well, I guess u can learn |
| 00:29.43 | wizatcom | 1.33 |
| 00:29.49 | bz1645 | WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 00:29.50 | wizatcom | no |
| 00:30.01 | wizatcom | yah win sci calc is not the same as a TI83 |
| 00:30.06 | JeffM2501 | really guys take it somehwere else |
| 00:30.10 | JeffM2501 | this isn't your math class |
| 00:30.12 | bz1645 | sorry |
| 00:30.22 | bz1645 | just let him figure it our please |
| 00:30.23 | A_Meteorite | I wasn't that interested anyways. ;) |
| 00:30.52 | wizatcom | i'll go with "16" |
| 00:30.55 | JeffM2501 | take it to a temp channel, I don't care who lets who figure out what |
| 00:30.58 | JeffM2501 | just don't do it here |
| 00:30.59 | wizatcom | and then CSI |
| 00:31.01 | wizatcom | later |
| 00:31.02 | JeffM2501 | in a channel for a game |
| 00:31.04 | bz1645 | Fine, we never spoke about it, and wizatcom is the winner |
| 00:31.13 | wizatcom | JeffM2501: but bzflag has math! :D |
| 00:31.22 | brlcad | wizatcom wins if only because he's not on cgi:irc |
| 00:31.33 | JeffM2501 | wizatcom, you know what IM ean |
| 00:31.45 | wizatcom | JeffM2501: i know |
| 00:31.54 | bz1645 | i don't have IM |
| 00:32.02 | wizatcom | brlcad: :) |
| 00:32.03 | A_Meteorite | what channel? |
| 00:32.16 | orchid | #math |
| 00:32.18 | wizatcom | bz1645: he meant "I mean" not "IM ean" |
| 00:32.34 | wizatcom | wow that chan has alot of people in it |
| 00:32.48 | JeffM2501 | then use #mylamemathchannel |
| 00:32.56 | bz1645 | that's not a channel |
| 00:33.07 | wizatcom | JeffM2501: i didn't think that it actually existed/had a real set up... |
| 00:33.08 | wizatcom | oh well |
| 00:33.11 | JeffM2501 | sure it is |
| 00:33.12 | A_Meteorite | you can make a channel |
| 00:33.16 | bz1645 | you made that up, because you stink at math |
| 00:33.17 | JeffM2501 | go there |
| 00:33.17 | A_Meteorite | join that one |
| 00:33.18 | JeffM2501 | find out |
| 00:33.21 | wizatcom | i know i can make a chan |
| 00:33.21 | JeffM2501 | see what happens |
| 00:33.36 | wizatcom | i just didn't think there was a math "community" |
| 00:33.37 | brlcad | bz1645: last warning to cut the insults |
| 00:33.37 | JeffM2501 | system makes any channel that dosn't exist when somone joins it |
| 00:33.43 | JeffM2501 | it's not rocket sicience |
| 00:33.44 | wizatcom | like there is for electronics and the like |
| 00:33.53 | A_Meteorite | ... |
| 00:33.57 | bz1645 | how do i join it? |
| 00:33.59 | JeffM2501 | bz1645, you have a problem? |
| 00:33.59 | A_Meteorite | I have no part of this. ;) |
| 00:34.09 | wizatcom | JeffM2501: i know that |
| 00:34.10 | JeffM2501 | bz1645, you can't |
| 00:34.15 | JeffM2501 | your on web CGI |
| 00:34.19 | bz1645 | btw what insult did i make |
| 00:34.21 | brlcad | you'd have to get a real irc client first |
| 00:34.21 | wizatcom | i don't know what i'm trying to say |
| 00:34.40 | brlcad | ~irchelp |
| 00:34.41 | wizatcom | before i confuse myself and everyone else, i'll go do something esle |
| 00:34.42 | wizatcom | later |
| 00:34.47 | bz1645 | if i am correct i only made one that was eqivelent to a third grader |
| 00:34.50 | JeffM2501 | bz1645, aperantly I suck at math |
| 00:34.59 | JeffM2501 | I am dumb |
| 00:35.10 | A_Meteorite | lol! |
| 00:35.11 | bz1645 | i said tink not suck |
| 00:35.16 | bz1645 | stink not suck |
| 00:35.32 | bz1645 | suck is a stronger word than stink |
| 00:35.40 | JeffM2501 | whatever |
| 00:35.45 | brlcad | ~irchelp is a poorly organized website at http://irchelp.org useful for finding IRC clients and learning the basics of being on IRC |
| 00:35.47 | ibot | brlcad: okay |
| 00:35.47 | JeffM2501 | how old are you? |
| 00:35.48 | JeffM2501 | 10? |
| 00:35.51 | bz1645 | its the truth |
| 00:35.54 | orchid | ~seen Aribeth |
| 00:36.06 | ibot | aribeth is currently on #bzflag. Has said a total of 63 messages. Is idling for 3h 22m 33s |
| 00:36.07 | bz1645 | who is how old? |
| 00:36.07 | JeffM2501 | you |
| 00:36.09 | JeffM2501 | how old are you |
| 00:36.10 | bz1645 | 15 |
| 00:36.12 | Aribeth | hi orchid |
| 00:36.21 | orchid | hey Aribeth |
| 00:36.27 | JeffM2501 | orchid! |
| 00:36.32 | Aribeth | whats up? |
| 00:36.42 | bz1645 | I answered you, apparently i wasn't heard |
| 00:37.06 | JeffM2501 | bz1645, you were heard, just not commented on.. get over it, your not the only one in the channel |
| 00:37.06 | orchid | Aribeth: nuttin' :) I hadn't seen you in the channel in a while thats all |
| 00:37.13 | JeffM2501 | and orchid is way cuter |
| 00:37.16 | bz1645 | I think I realize that, sir |
| 00:37.24 | Aribeth | oh, im playing runescape these days |
| 00:37.32 | A_Meteorite | runescape? |
| 00:37.33 | bz1645 | SWEET I PLAY ON RUNESCAPE |
| 00:37.37 | brlcad | way cuter :) |
| 00:37.38 | Aribeth | yep |
| 00:37.39 | redeeman | i see there have been a slight change in the bzfs |
| 00:37.43 | orchid | hmm runscape |
| 00:37.48 | A_Meteorite | never seen but heard of it |
| 00:37.52 | redeeman | do you people think it might fix the ting about it cant unpack world database? |
| 00:37.54 | bz1645 | i've been playing runescape instead of BZ for the past 5 months |
| 00:37.55 | Aribeth | its cool |
| 00:37.59 | bz1645 | :) |
| 00:38.16 | bz1645 | i take it your a member? |
| 00:38.16 | JeffM2501 | one day I'll get her to play a real mmorpg :) |
| 00:38.27 | Aribeth | im doing the agility corse right now |
| 00:38.33 | Aribeth | hehe |
| 00:39.03 | bz1645 | I don't like the fact that you have to have Paypal or a credit card to be a member. What ever happened to cash? |
| 00:39.19 | A_Meteorite | money is involed? |
| 00:39.21 | A_Meteorite | woah. |
| 00:39.22 | Aribeth | i like it. |
| 00:39.27 | JeffM2501 | bz1645, cash dosn't go over the internet |
| 00:39.32 | bz1645 | $5 a month |
| 00:39.37 | Aribeth | 5.00 a month for membership |
| 00:39.48 | Aribeth | or you can play the free part of it |
| 00:39.57 | bdotson | cash involves a human having to go to the post office and picking it up, which costs more money than $5 is worth |
| 00:40.00 | bz1645 | my friend used a TD BankNorth card as a creit card for his membership |
| 00:40.16 | Aribeth | i used paypal |
| 00:40.19 | bz1645 | and he's only 14 |
| 00:40.27 | bz1645 | what's up with that? |
| 00:40.29 | JeffM2501 | cool we can turn him into the cops now |
| 00:40.36 | bdotson | heh |
| 00:40.37 | Aribeth | :) |
| 00:40.39 | bz1645 | actually its legal |
| 00:41.08 | bz1645 | since its kind of like a gift card from TD he can use it as a credit card |
| 00:41.27 | bz1645 | i have to go see ya |
| 00:41.33 | A_Meteorite | bye |
| 00:41.35 | JeffM2501 | tell your mom hi |
| 00:41.42 | bz1645 | ?????????????????????????????????????????? |
| 00:41.43 | A_Meteorite | eh? |
| 00:42.08 | bz1645 | that was awkward |
| 00:42.13 | JeffM2501 | heh |
| 00:42.13 | A_Meteorite | that wasn't directed towards me, but that made ***no*** sense at all |
| 00:42.25 | JeffM2501 | how do you know? ;) |
| 00:42.38 | A_Meteorite | (good ridance) |
| 00:42.39 | A_Meteorite | :) |
| 00:42.48 | JeffM2501 | maybe I'm secretly your uncle lary |
| 00:42.55 | A_Meteorite | ooooh |
| 00:43.07 | A_Meteorite | I don't have an Uncle Larry, I wonder how that is |
| 00:43.09 | A_Meteorite | ;) |
| 00:43.24 | JeffM2501 | maybe she just didn't tell you |
| 00:43.33 | JeffM2501 | your'r probalby not ready to know the truth |
| 00:43.36 | A_Meteorite | lol |
| 00:43.45 | A_Meteorite | then where do I live? |
| 00:43.47 | A_Meteorite | :P |
| 00:43.58 | JeffM2501 | I'd be no so cras to say that in public |
| 00:44.05 | A_Meteorite | an IP trace would not be correct anyways |
| 00:44.25 | JeffM2501 | if your mom dosn't think your ready, then I'll respect her wishes |
| 00:44.28 | JeffM2501 | I owe her a lot |
| 00:44.29 | A_Meteorite | I live miles away from the city it traces too |
| 00:44.32 | JeffM2501 | from the war |
| 00:44.36 | A_Meteorite | ... |
| 00:44.50 | A_Meteorite | are you feeling okay? |
| 00:44.55 | JeffM2501 | I'm fine |
| 00:44.57 | JeffM2501 | how are you? |
| 00:45.02 | JeffM2501 | sleeping well? |
| 00:45.05 | JeffM2501 | no nightmares? |
| 00:45.05 | A_Meteorite | wonderfull except this |
| 00:45.18 | A_Meteorite | I don't have nightmares |
| 00:45.26 | A_Meteorite | ;) |
| 00:46.25 | JeffM2501 | you'll get over it skip |
| 00:46.31 | A_Meteorite | eh? |
| 00:46.35 | A_Meteorite | my name isn't skip |
| 00:46.40 | JeffM2501 | ok slick |
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| 00:54.52 | brlcad | it made sense to me |
| 00:58.35 | Aribeth | lol |
| 00:58.51 | Aribeth | or sport :P |
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| 01:12.29 | JeffM2501 | skip, slick, sport, ace.... they all work |
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| 01:40.34 | BZBot | New news from opencombatproject: defualt makefiles to use libpng |
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| 03:00.26 | trepan | heh, rendering those little glPoint tank lights was crippling my shadow mapping |
| 03:00.32 | trepan | 100 fps -> 5 fps |
| 03:03.11 | JeffM2501 | glPoints ain't fast on a lot of cards |
| 03:03.26 | trepan | that's not a matter of fast... that's busted |
| 03:03.28 | JeffM2501 | often cuases a context sawp |
| 03:03.31 | JeffM2501 | heh |
| 03:03.51 | JeffM2501 | what was the poin of the lights? |
| 03:03.53 | trepan | could just be that glPointSize() calls, haven't checked |
| 03:03.53 | JeffM2501 | pun intended |
| 03:04.01 | trepan | 'cuteness' ? |
| 03:04.25 | JeffM2501 | cute tanks would have nose art :) |
| 03:05.05 | trepan | ah, renderLights() is also doing a gstate switch for blending, etc... could be that too |
| 03:05.23 | purple_cow | yay GL |
| 03:05.36 | JeffM2501 | heh |
| 03:05.44 | trepan | yay gf3 uber-card! |
| 03:05.55 | JeffM2501 | they were great when they came out |
| 03:06.14 | trepan | nope, it's the points |
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| 03:47.22 | JeffM2501 | yay, last regresion bug of the night :) |
| 03:47.30 | A_Meteorite | what was it? |
| 03:47.33 | A_Meteorite | :) |
| 03:48.15 | JeffM2501 | changes to support lathes with B axes on the part caused any calls to GetLCycle in mill ops to force the op to be a face op |
| 03:48.26 | JeffM2501 | regardless of it's origonal orientation |
| 03:48.29 | A_Meteorite | wow |
| 03:48.39 | A_Meteorite | sounds complicated |
| 03:48.42 | JeffM2501 | happend when all the hitbox stuff was replaced with proper enumerations |
| 03:48.56 | JeffM2501 | well 18k$ software ain't simple :) |
| 03:49.02 | A_Meteorite | hehe |
| 03:49.28 | JeffM2501 | the one before that was funny tho |
| 03:49.43 | JeffM2501 | the code that set the coolant was just commented out |
| 03:49.54 | A_Meteorite | LOL! |
| 03:50.03 | A_Meteorite | good way to make an app not work |
| 03:50.05 | JeffM2501 | most of the bugs involved the terms "how did this ever work?" |
| 03:50.10 | JeffM2501 | it's a dev version |
| 03:50.11 | JeffM2501 | noone has it |
| 03:50.18 | A_Meteorite | what's it do? |
| 03:50.22 | JeffM2501 | the shiping verion is fine |
| 03:50.22 | A_Meteorite | is it related to bz? |
| 03:50.24 | JeffM2501 | it makes stuff |
| 03:50.27 | JeffM2501 | oh god no |
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| 03:50.49 | A_Meteorite | sounds super secret ;) |
| 03:50.54 | JeffM2501 | not really |
| 03:51.02 | JeffM2501 | you could get a copy if you wanted |
| 03:51.08 | JeffM2501 | base package is 5k$ |
| 03:51.12 | JeffM2501 | with out a post |
| 03:51.12 | A_Meteorite | woah |
| 03:51.20 | A_Meteorite | you work on big stuff |
| 03:51.25 | JeffM2501 | not realy |
| 03:51.30 | JeffM2501 | we are one of the cheapest |
| 03:51.35 | bryjen | bits are small |
| 03:51.41 | JeffM2501 | specialy for simple mill or lathe |
| 03:52.00 | JeffM2501 | 5k for a programing system is very very reasonable |
| 03:52.09 | A_Meteorite | lathe? |
| 03:52.09 | bryjen | 300 billion of 'em in a 1x3x6 box |
| 03:52.10 | JeffM2501 | we are rather popular with the small job shops |
| 03:52.23 | JeffM2501 | yes |
| 03:52.25 | JeffM2501 | a lathe |
| 03:52.27 | JeffM2501 | or a mill |
| 03:52.30 | A_Meteorite | oh |
| 03:52.33 | JeffM2501 | those arn't cheap |
| 03:52.38 | A_Meteorite | I see |
| 03:52.40 | JeffM2501 | so 5k for software is nothin |
| 03:52.47 | A_Meteorite | hehe! |
| 03:53.01 | JeffM2501 | you can spend millions on a machine |
| 03:53.14 | JeffM2501 | ain't worth a crap if you can't program it tho |
| 03:53.14 | A_Meteorite | omg |
| 03:53.19 | A_Meteorite | do you use one? |
| 03:53.33 | JeffM2501 | no, I've never used a machine |
| 03:53.40 | JeffM2501 | that's not part of my job |
| 03:53.44 | A_Meteorite | ahh |
| 03:53.51 | JeffM2501 | I've seen em sure |
| 03:53.54 | JeffM2501 | but never set one up or run one |
| 03:54.17 | A_Meteorite | sounds fun - and interesting |
| 03:54.28 | JeffM2501 | we keep trying to convince the bossman to get a couple |
| 03:54.37 | JeffM2501 | we could get em for free from hass probably |
| 03:54.41 | JeffM2501 | sorry haas |
| 03:55.32 | JeffM2501 | or at least a desktop rolland |
| 03:55.49 | JeffM2501 | tho I'd not like to run it, I hate he smell of coolant |
| 03:56.07 | A_Meteorite | yuk |
| 03:56.09 | A_Meteorite | coolant |
| 03:56.25 | bryjen | even in the morning? |
| 03:56.31 | JeffM2501 | even in the morning |
| 03:56.35 | JeffM2501 | have you ever smelt it? |
| 03:56.39 | JeffM2501 | stuff is NASTY |
| 03:56.48 | JeffM2501 | gives you cancer |
| 03:56.50 | bryjen | so is napalm |
| 03:57.17 | JeffM2501 | they are both petrol based |
| 03:57.57 | A_Meteorite | awww, time to eat |
| 03:57.58 | A_Meteorite | bbl |
| 03:58.39 | JeffM2501 | Eric loves the smell of coolant, I'll have him run any programs I make :) |
| 04:04.01 | A_Meteorite | back |
| 04:04.01 | A_Meteorite | :) |
| 04:41.20 | BZBot | New news from opencombatproject: no need for OS Logos and skyboxes |
| 05:11.26 | BZBot | New news from opencombatproject: add tank forward view to radar. add expanding "ping ring". add ping sound when... |
| 05:13.09 | Nidhoggr | interesting chinese curse... "may you lead an interesting life" |
| 05:14.01 | Nidhoggr | :) |
| 05:14.38 | orange | hiya Nidhoggr |
| 05:14.42 | Nidhoggr | hi orange |
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| 06:18.11 | trepan | does it do material depth attenuation? |
| 06:19.38 | JeffM2501 | sadly no |
| 06:19.44 | JeffM2501 | it's actualy empty |
| 06:19.56 | trepan | you like circles then? :) |
| 06:20.00 | JeffM2501 | yes |
| 06:20.08 | JeffM2501 | when they move |
| 06:20.45 | JeffM2501 | the compas and radar are now doing this gear like thing when you turn |
| 06:20.59 | JeffM2501 | tho guess it looks more like a sonar then a radar now |
| 06:22.12 | trepan | cool |
| 06:23.09 | trepan | the funny thing is, if you look at some cockpit radars, you may notice that a lot of them are rectangular |
| 06:23.19 | JeffM2501 | my "are you in this radius" function dosn't work right |
| 06:23.21 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 06:23.26 | JeffM2501 | most of them are |
| 06:23.33 | JeffM2501 | since they are just computer displays |
| 06:23.48 | JeffM2501 | real radars scan 1000's of times a second |
| 06:24.08 | trepan | yup, no sweeping pings anymore |
| 06:25.02 | JeffM2501 | the best ficticious cockpit i've seen was in macros plus |
| 06:25.13 | JeffM2501 | even had a hud that looked under the plane :) |
| 06:25.46 | trepan | then what did the coop students do? |
| 06:26.00 | JeffM2501 | coop? |
| 06:26.26 | trepan | maybe that's a canadian term, not yet graudated, working in the field for experience |
| 06:26.36 | JeffM2501 | intern |
| 06:26.37 | trepan | lackeys ;) |
| 06:27.28 | orange | we use coop, but usually for a program of work-school-work-school-work-etc. |
| 06:27.30 | trepan | we use to send to the lab shop to get us laser defibrillators |
| 06:28.37 | trepan | and joint glue, and air sprockets, iirc =) |
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| 07:08.24 | Aribeth | the natives were restles |
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| 08:12.09 | BZBot | New news from opencombatproject: vomit inducing "follow the tank as it turns" camera mode ( F2 ), complete with... || new tank avatar in radar spin thingy || a radar with stuff in it |
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| 11:28.04 | rss | hi |
| 11:28.26 | rss | there is some guy who is cheating on a public server |
| 11:28.50 | rss | he says he got those cheating powers through some special flags |
| 11:28.52 | rss | how? |
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| 11:30.03 | rss | hey Dalriada ! |
| 11:30.09 | Dalriada | hello |
| 11:30.13 | rss | I am A. Random Bullet |
| 11:30.25 | Dalriada | yes i say yr question |
| 11:30.58 | Dalriada | don't think we shall get an answer here. i sent report to the server admin so i'm sure the guy will be banned |
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| 11:32.56 | rss | Dalriada, ok |
| 11:33.27 | Dalriada | lunching now see u later maybe |
| 11:33.33 | rss | ok |
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| 11:58.52 | incompetence | hello all |
| 11:59.04 | incompetence | have some problem with bzflag |
| 11:59.15 | incompetence | i am not net to linux and not new to bzflag |
| 11:59.30 | incompetence | i am using ubuntu64 breezy |
| 11:59.43 | incompetence | the same happens with self compiled packages |
| 11:59.54 | incompetence | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:00.01 | incompetence | i cannot shot anyone |
| 12:00.13 | incompetence | the bullets go through my enemy |
| 12:00.30 | incompetence | they can shoot me and i can shoot myself too |
| 12:10.23 | Tupone | does it work in 32 bit mode? |
| 12:12.31 | incompetence | sorry but i have no 32 bit mode |
| 12:12.52 | incompetence | would it be enough to recompile it 32bit and try it to run it? |
| 12:35.00 | Tupone | yeah, that I was asking for. Recompile 32 bit mode and run. |
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| 14:37.56 | orchid | Chestal: is Ducati forever gone? |
| 14:39.22 | Chestal | uhm, memo? |
| 14:39.32 | Chestal | or was that an unrelated comment? |
| 14:40.33 | orchid | not unrelated no |
| 14:40.49 | orchid | but you no longer run the servers I guess? |
| 14:41.35 | Chestal | haven't for quite some time, you might have noticed :-) |
| 14:41.44 | Chestal | just wondering why you bring it up right now? |
| 14:42.06 | orchid | I was just looking for it in the server list :) |
| 14:42.11 | Chestal | if the university's network stabilizes, ducati _might_ return, maybe |
| 14:42.46 | ToughShooter | I was always beaten there soo easily :) |
| 14:43.07 | orchid | it was the place to go to get beaten ToughShooter |
| 14:43.34 | Chestal | well, dub filled the gap |
| 14:44.01 | ToughShooter | orchid: I lost there even in the days where I didn't concentrated on all the flags, that came after. Nowadays I'm worse than before |
| 14:44.03 | Chestal | and as I play from home these days, I wouldn't get extra low lag on ducati anymore anyway :-) |
| 14:44.46 | orchid | mine is 120-130 now on dub, not too bad I guess |
| 14:44.56 | ToughShooter | From my university I get less than 8ms ping to viper.pimpi.org |
| 14:44.58 | Chestal | oopsa |
| 14:46.28 | ToughShooter | I ordered fastpath yesterday from home...but still no activation link via email for the test. I wonder if my spam filter has eaten the mail |
| 14:46.28 | Chestal | bine: schon etwas |
| 14:46.28 | Chestal | grmpf, I need a better active window indicator in irssi |
| 14:46.39 | Chestal | the /statusbar stuff seems to be verry buggy at the moment, though |
| 14:46.47 | ToughShooter | or it's just me causing the trouble ;) |
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| 17:44.23 | BZBot | New news from opencombatproject: art update for new player symbol on radar || make recordings and movie saves allways use 30 fps |
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| 18:25.43 | gsnedders | Pimpi: ping-a-pong |
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| 18:39.37 | _Manu_ | gsnedders, pong |
| 18:40.16 | gsnedders | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:40.16 | gsnedders | | |
| 18:40.19 | gsnedders | :D |
| 18:40.37 | _Manu_ | game over |
| 18:40.49 | gsnedders | awwww.. |
| 18:42.07 | gsnedders | Score: 3 / 2 |
| 18:42.22 | gsnedders | sorry, just started emacs and started playing with myself... |
| 18:42.56 | _Manu_ | and your hw? |
| 18:46.33 | JeffM2501 | dude you keep that to yourself..... |
| 18:46.42 | JeffM2501 | but I guess what ever turns you on |
| 18:56.34 | gsnedders | lol |
| 18:57.10 | Grumbler | at least wait till project runway is showing |
| 18:59.05 | JeffM2501 | blast007, I hope you don't mind if I use your installer for a base for GPx01 |
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| 19:14.25 | JeffM2501 | funny. it looks like you are here |
| 19:14.51 | BZBot | New news from opencombatproject: release mode stuff |
| 19:16.21 | JeffM2501 | blast007, ping |
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| 19:36.21 | JeffM2501 | the cvs repo is active |
| 19:36.38 | JeffM2501 | wana test something for me? |
| 19:36.48 | JeffM2501 | asuming your on windows |
| 19:37.27 | Grumbler | i'm on windows, no ability to compile there however |
| 19:37.34 | JeffM2501 | don't need to compile |
| 19:37.39 | Grumbler | shoot |
| 19:37.41 | JeffM2501 | actualy I'm looking for a non dev system |
| 19:37.54 | Grumbler | acutally, thats go ahead and shoot |
| 19:39.27 | JeffM2501 | http://beta.bzflag.bz/GPx01.05.12.15.zip |
| 19:39.42 | JeffM2501 | unzip that, run it and tell me if it says it's missing any DLLs |
| 19:40.51 | JeffM2501 | I'd make an installer for it but I think I need blast007's help |
| 19:41.04 | Grumbler | fail to start because DevIL.dll was not found |
| 19:41.20 | JeffM2501 | hmm |
| 19:41.23 | JeffM2501 | wierd |
| 19:41.26 | JeffM2501 | 1 sec |
| 19:42.18 | JeffM2501 | http://beta.bzflag.bz/DevIL.dll |
| 19:42.23 | JeffM2501 | add that and lets see |
| 19:42.32 | JeffM2501 | didn't know it needed that one |
| 19:42.38 | JeffM2501 | thought il.dll was good enough |
| 19:42.59 | JeffM2501 | ahh I only did ilu and ilut |
| 19:43.02 | Grumbler | its running |
| 19:43.05 | JeffM2501 | whoot |
| 19:43.11 | JeffM2501 | only missed one, not bad :) |
| 19:43.21 | JeffM2501 | and yes it'll have a chicken |
| 19:43.32 | Grumbler | the background is making me a little motion sick |
| 19:43.45 | JeffM2501 | press f1 |
| 19:43.46 | Grumbler | fps 58.5 |
| 19:44.04 | Grumbler | f1 no worky |
| 19:44.08 | JeffM2501 | press f2 |
| 19:44.25 | JeffM2501 | one of those will change your mode |
| 19:44.39 | Grumbler | no f* worky... |
| 19:44.44 | JeffM2501 | hmm |
| 19:44.51 | JeffM2501 | does the world spin, or do you spin? |
| 19:45.15 | Grumbler | the grass background spins, along with the tanks |
| 19:45.27 | JeffM2501 | hmm it's not suposed to default to that way |
| 19:45.31 | Pimpi | gsnedders: pongo |
| 19:45.48 | JeffM2501 | oh are you on the menu? |
| 19:45.57 | JeffM2501 | or did you start a game |
| 19:46.24 | Grumbler | let me start from scratch...arrow keys didnt work for awhile |
| 19:46.30 | JeffM2501 | hmm |
| 19:46.40 | JeffM2501 | just hit enter 2x and it should start a game |
| 19:46.56 | Grumbler | heh....cant quit using the menu |
| 19:47.02 | JeffM2501 | yeah I noticed that |
| 19:47.35 | Grumbler | ....hmmm ok, GPx01-slient.exe has encountered a problem and needs to close. We are sorry for the inconvenience |
| 19:47.56 | JeffM2501 | sweet |
| 19:47.58 | Grumbler | more information gives |
| 19:48.03 | JeffM2501 | dosn't mater |
| 19:48.10 | JeffM2501 | will it reluanch? |
| 19:49.15 | Grumbler | it will relaunch...everything works as stated before |
| 19:49.28 | JeffM2501 | can you hit enter and go to the server select screen? |
| 19:49.40 | Grumbler | yes |
| 19:49.45 | JeffM2501 | then hit enter again |
| 19:49.54 | JeffM2501 | it should take you to where you can drive around |
| 19:49.57 | JeffM2501 | with the arrow keys |
| 19:49.58 | Grumbler | thats when i get the error |
| 19:50.01 | JeffM2501 | ahh |
| 19:50.02 | JeffM2501 | ok |
| 19:50.06 | JeffM2501 | probably raknet then |
| 19:50.11 | JeffM2501 | that sucks |
| 19:50.26 | Grumbler | nothing in runlog.txt |
| 19:50.35 | JeffM2501 | yeah default dosn't log anything |
| 19:50.49 | JeffM2501 | I'll have to set up a release system |
| 19:51.11 | JeffM2501 | thanks for the test tho |
| 19:51.27 | Grumbler | funny, the fps rise until they get ~60fps....my refresh rate for this monitor |
| 19:51.49 | Grumbler | np |
| 19:51.54 | JeffM2501 | yeah it takes a bit to get in sync |
| 19:52.03 | JeffM2501 | it just counts total frames and time |
| 19:52.11 | JeffM2501 | at low frame counts it's not yet accurate |
| 19:52.16 | Grumbler | ah |
| 19:52.37 | JeffM2501 | there are better ways to compute fps |
| 19:52.49 | Grumbler | the i/f is very clean though...nice job so far |
| 19:52.56 | JeffM2501 | thanks |
| 19:53.01 | JeffM2501 | sad you can't see the hud |
| 19:53.02 | gsnedders | Pimpi: see the maillist, although the prob is now fixed |
| 19:53.04 | JeffM2501 | it's the best part :) |
| 19:53.21 | Grumbler | heh, i saw the movie |
| 19:53.39 | JeffM2501 | it's much cooler when you can drive |
| 19:53.53 | Grumbler | hmm, i wonder if it could be my sfw firewall |
| 19:54.23 | Grumbler | nope |
| 19:54.41 | JeffM2501 | it should't care if it can't connect |
| 19:55.25 | JeffM2501 | hmm actualy it dosn't connect |
| 19:55.27 | JeffM2501 | but food time |
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| 20:02.13 | hans | I'm getting error unpacking world database when trying to join any server. debian, ppc, 2.0.4 |
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| 20:14.59 | BZBot | New news from opencombatproject: bugs are seperate now || bugs... allways bugs |
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| 21:41.29 | Mr_Molez | does anyone know if there is any code in bzflag to change the position you spawn in relation to your score ? |
| 21:41.44 | DTRemenak | there is not |
| 21:42.03 | DTRemenak | if you want to do that, you could use a plugin |
| 21:42.05 | Mr_Molez | k ty :P |
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| 21:53.58 | S1gn | how to get v2_0branch from CVS ? I don't see it there |
| 21:55.01 | S1gn | ah... mmm |
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| 22:23.09 | JeffM2501 | yay for plugins |
| 22:25.21 | JeffM2501 | boo for release mode crashes |
| 22:26.09 | DTRemenak | heh |
| 22:26.24 | JeffM2501 | bet one of the libs is still debug |
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| 22:31.36 | Birdie | bonjour madame orchid |
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| 23:34.39 | elg | anyone know about a error unpacking world database? |
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| 23:36.09 | Tupone | any world? |
| 23:38.57 | Aribeth | hi Tupone |
| 23:39.08 | Tupone | hi Aribeth |
| 23:39.10 | Tupone | :) |
| 23:39.19 | Aribeth | i died yesterday :( |
| 23:39.29 | Tupone | aww |
| 23:39.39 | Tupone | against? |
| 23:39.43 | elg | Tupone: yeah, it seems so |
| 23:39.46 | Aribeth | i was on karumjia |
| 23:39.57 | Aribeth | the natives were restles |
| 23:39.59 | elg | haven't found one it likes, anyway |
| 23:40.03 | elg | debign ppc 2.0.4 |
| 23:40.32 | Aribeth | there are some bad naitives on that iland |
| 23:40.32 | Tupone | elg: neither the world that start withing bzflag ? |
| 23:40.46 | Tupone | Aribeth: I have not seen those :/ |
| 23:41.06 | Aribeth | they are on the member side, and they have javlins |
| 23:41.12 | elg | as in, start server? it just says failed |
| 23:41.13 | Tupone | ahhh |
| 23:41.25 | elg | i can install bzfs and try that |
| 23:41.28 | Aribeth | i got lost looking for the bank |
| 23:41.31 | Tupone | you have a local bzfs running? |
| 23:41.34 | elg | no |
| 23:41.49 | Tupone | sure? |
| 23:41.52 | elg | quite |
| 23:42.04 | Tupone | ok. Tryed to remove the cache ? |
| 23:42.11 | elg | yeah |
| 23:42.41 | Tupone | could you try running bzfs without any option |
| 23:43.39 | elg | yeah, let me get it installed |
| 23:44.46 | Aribeth | hows your quest going tupone? |
| 23:45.08 | Tupone | hehe, putting the finger in a plague (?) |
| 23:45.34 | Tupone | I've not played today |
| 23:45.38 | Aribeth | ahh |
| 23:45.53 | Aribeth | im building up money for full rune |
| 23:46.18 | Tupone | aww, how much money? I have only 45k |
| 23:46.33 | Aribeth | i have 141k right now |
| 23:46.50 | Tupone | :) |
| 23:47.02 | Aribeth | i mine a lot of essence |
| 23:47.27 | Tupone | and do you sell to someone? |
| 23:47.28 | Aribeth | 2k ess = 60kgp |
| 23:47.42 | Aribeth | i sell it at the varrock bank |
| 23:48.07 | elg | Tupone: same issue when I run a local bzfs with no args |
| 23:48.11 | Aribeth | my mining level is 58 now |
| 23:49.42 | Tupone | then I cannot do much now. File a bug report, with your architecture HW/SW and bzflag verison |
| 23:49.47 | Tupone | version |