| 00:00.05 | JeffM2501 | the only compatability problems should have been with bzadmin |
| 00:00.06 | JeffM2501 | not the real client |
| 00:00.14 | JeffM2501 | people still use 2.0.2 just fine |
| 00:00.55 | menotume | when you sat 2.0 cvs - what is that |
| 00:01.00 | menotume | cvs from a year ago ? |
| 00:01.12 | redeeman | no the stable branch |
| 00:01.16 | menotume | k |
| 00:01.28 | menotume | o i c |
| 00:01.35 | JeffM2501 | did you get the v2_0branch tag? |
| 00:01.44 | JeffM2501 | or the 2.0.4 tag? |
| 00:01.45 | menotume | :) |
| 00:01.50 | redeeman | JeffM2501: im getting now the branch |
| 00:01.54 | JeffM2501 | ok |
| 00:01.58 | JeffM2501 | that will build as 2.0.5 |
| 00:02.03 | redeeman | how do i checkout a branch with cvs? -r? |
| 00:02.08 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 00:02.19 | JeffM2501 | co -r v2_0branch bzflag |
| 00:02.45 | redeeman | im used to subversion |
| 00:02.48 | redeeman | it's alot easier to use :) |
| 00:02.52 | JeffM2501 | yes it is |
| 00:03.25 | JeffM2501 | it'll be nice when sf offers it |
| 00:03.39 | redeeman | sf has been quite unstable lately |
| 00:03.47 | redeeman | berlios do offer subversion |
| 00:03.51 | JeffM2501 | they upgrade often |
| 00:04.06 | JeffM2501 | we on sf, and I don't forsee it changing anytime soon |
| 00:07.10 | redeeman | can bzflag run directly from the source dir? |
| 00:07.16 | JeffM2501 | sure |
| 00:07.24 | redeeman | what if i launch a server from there? |
| 00:07.26 | JeffM2501 | just make sure data is in the current working dir |
| 00:07.31 | JeffM2501 | server dosn't care where it is |
| 00:07.35 | JeffM2501 | it dosnt' use any other files |
| 00:07.44 | redeeman | i mean |
| 00:07.47 | JeffM2501 | client is the only thing that uses the data dir |
| 00:08.00 | redeeman | if i start the bzflag client and from that start the server, will it luanch my installed server or the now compiled one? |
| 00:08.12 | JeffM2501 | probably installed one |
| 00:08.22 | JeffM2501 | client dosn't know to look in /src/bzfs/ for the server |
| 00:08.37 | JeffM2501 | IIRC it just calls bzfs and the params |
| 00:10.18 | Ice_Wewe | why'd my topic get deleted? |
| 00:10.42 | JeffM2501 | wrong fourm, arguments, wasn't forumlated well.. was kind of stand offish |
| 00:10.55 | JeffM2501 | there were many reasons |
| 00:11.06 | JeffM2501 | it wasn't realy a poll |
| 00:11.15 | Ice_Wewe | JeffM2501: what? I'd consider that a poll |
| 00:11.26 | JeffM2501 | it was more of a checklist |
| 00:11.28 | JeffM2501 | not a poll |
| 00:11.42 | JeffM2501 | the comunity would be better served by a server guide |
| 00:12.36 | JeffM2501 | in a poll you care about the results, the oinly thing your results would have shown is how supid people are |
| 00:15.54 | redeeman | JeffM2501: could this be gcc 4.0 related? some other guy inhere mumbled about gcc 4.0 |
| 00:16.03 | JeffM2501 | yeah, it could be |
| 00:16.11 | JeffM2501 | but 2.0.4 was updated for gcc4 |
| 00:16.31 | JeffM2501 | I run cvs on my ubantu box at home with gcc4 just fine |
| 00:16.42 | redeeman | well it compiles fine |
| 00:17.02 | Ice_Wewe | JeffM2501: is CVS working again, it wasn't yesterday |
| 00:17.08 | JeffM2501 | Ice_Wewe, try and see |
| 00:17.22 | redeeman | im currently compiling stable cvs branch |
| 00:17.26 | JeffM2501 | they do take it down for maintance every so often |
| 00:17.31 | redeeman | but it's abit slow, since im also compiling gcc 3.4.5 |
| 00:19.01 | Ice_Wewe | JeffM2501: woohooo! It's working again, after like a week of being down.... |
| 00:19.22 | Ice_Wewe | 20051206 |
| 00:19.31 | Ice_Wewe | and I've remade it since the CVS problem |
| 00:23.17 | redeeman | okay it's compiled |
| 00:24.23 | JeffM2501 | Ice_Wewe, umm it's been up every day for me |
| 00:26.01 | Ice_Wewe | JeffM2501: that's because you're a developer |
| 00:29.30 | JeffM2501 | if you say so |
| 00:29.57 | redeeman | cvs seems to fix the problem that i cant kill anyone |
| 00:29.57 | JeffM2501 | but you assume that the only projects i CVS from on sf are ones I am a developer of |
| 00:30.40 | redeeman | they have seperate developer and public cvs server |
| 00:31.21 | JeffM2501 | that they do |
| 00:31.39 | JeffM2501 | a couple of each IIRC :) |
| 00:34.08 | Ice_Wewe | hey JeffM2501, where do you get those mini tanks for your sig images? |
| 00:34.48 | JeffM2501 | oh man.. how do you tell a 13 year old kid why he can't have his avatar of a dog carying a female marital aid, when he asks what is wrong with the dogs "toy" |
| 00:34.59 | redeeman | bzfs still doesent work |
| 00:35.01 | JeffM2501 | Ice_Wewe, from GPx01 |
| 00:36.34 | DTRemenak | JeffM2501: tell him to ask his mother |
| 00:36.41 | JeffM2501 | I kinda did |
| 00:36.56 | JeffM2501 | but then he's gonna say 'some guy ont he interent told me to ask you what a dilldo is" |
| 00:37.08 | DTRemenak | heh |
| 00:37.40 | DTRemenak | should make for an "interesting" conversation |
| 00:38.32 | JeffM2501 | "but bossco LOVES that toy" |
| 00:39.24 | JeffM2501 | dtremenak http://myth.gibbscam.com/temp/gpx01.avi |
| 00:39.31 | JeffM2501 | it's 22 megs so be wary |
| 00:39.37 | DTRemenak | already saw it |
| 00:39.42 | JeffM2501 | ahh |
| 00:39.53 | JeffM2501 | ms movie editor sucks |
| 00:39.55 | DTRemenak | took like an hour to grab from m.b.o, wish you had posted the myth link earlier :) |
| 00:40.02 | Ice_Wewe | JeffM2501: where can I get this GPx01? |
| 00:40.06 | JeffM2501 | I just uploaded it |
| 00:40.09 | Ice_Wewe | JeffM2501: it looks very interesting |
| 00:40.17 | Ice_Wewe | JeffM2501: is there a cvs link? It's not biting me yet. |
| 00:40.32 | JeffM2501 | cvs link? |
| 00:41.01 | JeffM2501 | your on OSX right? |
| 00:41.05 | Ice_Wewe | JeffM2501: where do you get this (I'm assuming it's an appliction) |
| 00:41.12 | Ice_Wewe | JeffM2501: OSX/Linux, whatever it works best on |
| 00:41.28 | JeffM2501 | I got it from C:\Documents and Settings\JeffM\Desktop\GPx01 |
| 00:41.30 | Ice_Wewe | JeffM2501: it'd be nice if I got it for Linux, it's my faster box |
| 00:41.38 | JeffM2501 | no linux |
| 00:41.42 | JeffM2501 | no OSX |
| 00:41.43 | Ice_Wewe | JeffM2501: right... so OSX? |
| 00:41.45 | JeffM2501 | no soup for you |
| 00:41.48 | Ice_Wewe | only Windows? |
| 00:41.49 | DTRemenak | heh |
| 00:41.56 | JeffM2501 | debug windows evern |
| 00:42.10 | DTRemenak | probably requires fifty libraries too ;) |
| 00:42.14 | JeffM2501 | 14 |
| 00:42.23 | JeffM2501 | and a chicken |
| 00:42.24 | DTRemenak | close |
| 00:42.36 | JeffM2501 | acutaly 8 |
| 00:42.42 | DTRemenak | hm, at home I would have no trouble finding a chicken, but I dunno about here |
| 00:42.51 | brlcad | mm chicken |
| 00:43.10 | JeffM2501 | devil, freetype2, ftgl, libcurl, zlib, sdl, and fmod |
| 00:43.20 | JeffM2501 | oh that's only 7 |
| 00:43.21 | JeffM2501 | yay |
| 00:43.37 | brlcad | cept for the sub-deps too :) |
| 00:43.41 | DTRemenak | yup |
| 00:43.41 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 00:43.46 | JeffM2501 | devil is a pig on those |
| 00:43.54 | JeffM2501 | gonna replace it with raw libpng soon |
| 00:44.03 | JeffM2501 | should cut it down |
| 00:44.03 | Ice_Wewe | JeffM2501: thx. http://sourceforge.net/projects/opencombat/ |
| 00:44.23 | JeffM2501 | my god he CAN read |
| 00:44.43 | Ice_Wewe | JeffM2501: lol |
| 00:45.04 | Ice_Wewe | Bah. CVS is busted... :( |
| 00:45.05 | JeffM2501 | it's ether use libs or waste time redoing thigns that been done allready |
| 00:46.19 | JeffM2501 | tho if you'd like to help reduce lib useage your more then welcome to dtremenak :) |
| 00:46.28 | Ice_Wewe | well, homework time, brb |
| 00:46.40 | JeffM2501 | don't forget to show your work |
| 00:46.48 | Ice_Wewe | JeffM2501: :P It's english. |
| 00:46.54 | JeffM2501 | exactly |
| 00:47.45 | DTRemenak | JeffM2501: heh |
| 00:48.36 | JeffM2501 | I want to find a model of a tenis shoe and put it in the map, like way biger then tanks |
| 00:50.26 | DTRemenak | JeffM2501: http://www.forwarddesign.com/objects/house/Tenishoe.zip is a .lwo, but I'm sure you can convert it. |
| 00:50.43 | Ice_Wewe | JeffM2501: whoops. Preparing build ... configure.ac:344: error: possibly undefined macro: AC_PROG_LIBTOOL |
| 00:51.48 | Ice_Wewe | JeffM2501: If this token and others are legitimate, please use m4_pattern_allow. |
| 00:51.50 | JeffM2501 | wonder if it has textures |
| 00:51.50 | Ice_Wewe | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:52.00 | JeffM2501 | Ice_Wewe, what did I say about linux and OSX? |
| 00:52.03 | DTRemenak | so much for the "he can read" |
| 00:52.06 | JeffM2501 | aperantly you can't read |
| 00:52.46 | JeffM2501 | "ohhh no... your app dosn't work on an unsuported OS... fix it now" |
| 00:53.17 | DTRemenak | JeffM2501: it won't compile on solaris! oh noes! |
| 00:53.18 | brlcad | Ice_Wewe: what version of libtool? |
| 00:53.41 | JeffM2501 | Ice_Wewe, that is probaly orchids in progress make file |
| 00:53.44 | JeffM2501 | she is not done with it |
| 00:54.11 | JeffM2501 | assuming your even in gpx, since that'd be the only reason you prefix it with my name |
| 00:54.27 | Ice_Wewe | brlcad: yes, it is autogen.sh output |
| 00:54.42 | brlcad | so, what's the reported libtool version? |
| 00:54.44 | JeffM2501 | she added an autogen... cool |
| 00:54.46 | Ice_Wewe | JeffM2501: ltmain.sh (GNU libtool) 1.5.18 (1.1220.2.246 2005/05/16 10:00:18) |
| 00:55.13 | JeffM2501 | were is that file? |
| 00:55.27 | DTRemenak | JeffM2501: or maybe he just prefixes everything with your name |
| 00:55.30 | brlcad | Ice_Wewe: autogen.sh reports the version, what version did it report? |
| 00:55.36 | DTRemenak | since that comment was clearly meant for brlcad |
| 00:55.37 | JeffM2501 | I think he does |
| 00:55.40 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 00:55.42 | Ice_Wewe | sorry |
| 00:55.48 | JeffM2501 | and we got no sh files |
| 00:55.54 | JeffM2501 | what he hell is he talkinga bout |
| 00:55.55 | Ice_Wewe | Found GNU Autoconf version 2.59 |
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| 00:56.01 | DTRemenak | JeffM2501: probably bzflag |
| 00:56.06 | Ice_Wewe | [wili@piko opencombat]$ ./autogen.sh |
| 00:56.19 | Ice_Wewe | definately not BZFlag |
| 00:56.33 | JeffM2501 | what project did you download? |
| 00:56.45 | DTRemenak | hm, or the opencombat module itself |
| 00:56.46 | orchid | opencombat it looks liek |
| 00:56.51 | JeffM2501 | dumass |
| 00:56.59 | JeffM2501 | that is not gpx01 |
| 00:57.19 | Ice_Wewe | JeffM2501: what? |
| 00:57.21 | brlcad | it is the opencombat module, you added "nixie open source 'stuff'" about 12 months ago ;) |
| 00:57.22 | DTRemenak | Ice_Wewe: http://cvs.sf.net/viewcvs.py/opencombat/ |
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| 00:57.39 | DTRemenak | which module do YOU think you should download if you want gpx01> |
| 00:57.39 | bz4640 | fags |
| 00:57.42 | Ice_Wewe | JeffM2501: well that's all I found a link for |
| 00:57.50 | Ice_Wewe | DTRemenak: the GPx01 one? |
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| 00:58.11 | DTRemenak | aw, beat me to it |
| 00:58.18 | brlcad | :) |
| 00:58.20 | brlcad | he'll be back |
| 00:58.22 | DTRemenak | Ice_Wewe: good guess :) |
| 00:58.27 | Ice_Wewe | Logging in to :pserver:anonymous@cvs.sourceforge.net:2401/cvsroot/opencombat |
| 00:58.28 | Ice_Wewe | CVS password: |
| 00:58.28 | Ice_Wewe | cvs [login aborted]: end of file from server (consult above messages if any) |
| 00:58.39 | Ice_Wewe | ohhh, sorry |
| 00:58.44 | Ice_Wewe | didn't think it'd be that long |
| 00:58.45 | brlcad | you only login once per project |
| 00:59.07 | Ice_Wewe | cvs server: cannot find module `gpx01' - ignored |
| 00:59.07 | Ice_Wewe | cvs [checkout aborted]: cannot expand modules |
| 00:59.18 | Ice_Wewe | so, if there is no gpx01, then what is there? |
| 00:59.21 | brlcad | case sensitive |
| 00:59.28 | brlcad | GPx01 |
| 00:59.55 | Ice_Wewe | brlcad: ahh, thanks |
| 01:01.00 | JeffM2501 | Ice_Wewe, it dosn't have a functional makefile |
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| 01:01.04 | JeffM2501 | so it's NOT going to work |
| 01:01.06 | JeffM2501 | at all |
| 01:01.18 | JeffM2501 | no mater how many times you do a make |
| 01:01.20 | brlcad | heh, if you had trouble with autogen.sh .. :) |
| 01:01.27 | JeffM2501 | or type my name before a message |
| 01:01.31 | brlcad | wouldn't even bother |
| 01:03.38 | JeffM2501 | tho the yellow skin came out better then I expected |
| 01:05.55 | brlcad | and nay a comment about cigarrettes |
| 01:06.41 | menotume | coffin-nails ? |
| 01:07.43 | Ice_Wewe | so, how do you (JeffM2501) get this thing to work, if there is no makefile? |
| 01:08.24 | JeffM2501 | I use a build system that dosn't use makefiles of course |
| 01:08.56 | Ice_Wewe | JeffM2501: Windows? |
| 01:09.05 | JeffM2501 | windows is an OS |
| 01:09.07 | JeffM2501 | not a build system |
| 01:09.23 | JeffM2501 | there are build systems on windows that use make files |
| 01:09.28 | JeffM2501 | I do not use one of those |
| 01:09.32 | Ice_Wewe | JeffM2501: I see |
| 01:09.50 | JeffM2501 | in fact GPx01 may never use a makefile |
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| 01:12.17 | brlcad | /usr/web/beta.bzflag.bz |
| 01:12.44 | JeffM2501 | that's it |
| 01:12.45 | JeffM2501 | thanks |
| 01:16.02 | JeffM2501 | brlcad continues to be "the man" |
| 01:16.19 | JeffM2501 | guess I can delete the 1700 screenshots now |
| 01:16.39 | brlcad | rebel without a cause |
| 01:16.42 | brlcad | or time apparently |
| 01:16.47 | brlcad | yet still hungry |
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| 01:18.33 | Ice_Wewe | why do I get this error? /home/wili/wings-0.98.29b/styletank.bzw: warning (line 3742): unknown object parameter "texcoords" - skipping |
| 01:19.02 | JeffM2501 | because it dosn't know that paramater |
| 01:20.32 | JeffM2501 | and today Cruel Dog becomes a man |
| 01:20.41 | JeffM2501 | seems he went and asked what it was |
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| 01:28.23 | Ice_Wewe | what is it? |
| 01:29.05 | redeeman | JeffM2501: do u have any idea as the why bzfs won't create a random map? |
| 01:29.20 | JeffM2501 | redeeman, I'm not sure that is the problem |
| 01:29.30 | JeffM2501 | have you tried it with a map file |
| 01:29.34 | redeeman | it says it cant unpack world database |
| 01:29.37 | redeeman | yes it still says |
| 01:31.06 | JeffM2501 | then it's not the fact that it can't make the map |
| 01:31.28 | JeffM2501 | it's the fact that the database dosn't get packed or unpacked right |
| 01:31.45 | redeeman | what is the database file called? |
| 01:31.49 | JeffM2501 | it's not a file |
| 01:31.52 | JeffM2501 | it's in memory |
| 01:31.58 | redeeman | eugh |
| 01:32.04 | JeffM2501 | we turn the map file into a data structure |
| 01:32.11 | JeffM2501 | then pack it up in network order |
| 01:32.19 | JeffM2501 | I'm betting you are hiting a 64bit bug |
| 01:32.24 | JeffM2501 | that we just haven't found yet |
| 01:32.26 | redeeman | 2.0.2 worked |
| 01:32.33 | JeffM2501 | then 2.0.2 disn't have that bug |
| 01:33.08 | JeffM2501 | best would be to set a break point on the message and see what exactly it's failing on |
| 01:33.31 | JeffM2501 | basicly the message is when something unexpected comes thru the network pipe for the world |
| 01:36.57 | redeeman | i only know how to do backtraces with gdb |
| 01:38.53 | JeffM2501 | well ether you or someone with the problem is going to have to do it |
| 01:39.26 | redeeman | well if you tell how i can do it |
| 01:40.47 | JeffM2501 | I don't know GDB |
| 01:40.54 | JeffM2501 | *nix is not my forte |
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| 03:04.59 | BZBot | New news from opencombatproject: use a simpel visability radius to not draw everything under the sun || get current time as a string || allow access to aspect and fox |
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| 04:14.55 | A_Meteorite | hi all |
| 04:15.02 | A_Meteorite | is anonmyous CVS broken? |
| 04:15.21 | A_Meteorite | says: cvs [checkout aborted]: *PANIC* administration files missing |
| 04:19.00 | A_Meteorite | nvm, it's working now |
| 04:19.06 | A_Meteorite | I'm helping Sharpshooter out |
| 04:19.09 | A_Meteorite | :) |
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| 04:23.30 | JeffM2501 | aww man, I forgot to take that tennis shoe file home, DTRemenak do you still have it around? |
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| 04:33.04 | lan56 | JeffM2501, what files go into bzfs.lib? I can't find a vc++ project file that I can follow |
| 04:33.29 | JeffM2501 | it is not a project on it's own |
| 04:33.38 | JeffM2501 | it is an export library |
| 04:33.58 | JeffM2501 | the bzfs project builds it with the exported stuff |
| 04:34.06 | JeffM2501 | all the things basicly in bzAPI.h |
| 04:34.11 | JeffM2501 | it has no real code of it's own |
| 04:34.14 | JeffM2501 | it's just offsets |
| 04:34.14 | lan56 | ahh I see |
| 04:34.29 | lan56 | bzAPI.h is a good guide to building the library then? |
| 04:34.30 | JeffM2501 | so that the plugins can use functions in bzfs |
| 04:34.33 | lan56 | correct |
| 04:34.38 | JeffM2501 | umm well yeah |
| 04:34.43 | JeffM2501 | but it's not a lib in the clasic sense |
| 04:34.56 | JeffM2501 | can devC++ do exports? |
| 04:35.00 | lan56 | well when I try to build a plugin it says it can't find bzfs.h to link |
| 04:35.02 | lan56 | I am unsure |
| 04:35.06 | lan56 | I oughta look |
| 04:35.15 | JeffM2501 | an export lib is a special lib |
| 04:35.21 | JeffM2501 | it's not a normal static library |
| 04:35.26 | lan56 | I see |
| 04:35.41 | JeffM2501 | so you can't just go round up some files and build a static lib for it |
| 04:35.50 | lan56 | I see |
| 04:36.11 | JeffM2501 | that would not use the live code in bzfs that is running, but it would link in static copies of the functions |
| 04:36.16 | JeffM2501 | then the plugins would have no data |
| 04:36.23 | JeffM2501 | can devC++ build a DLL? |
| 04:36.27 | lan56 | yes |
| 04:36.38 | JeffM2501 | then it should have a method to export functions in that DLL |
| 04:36.58 | JeffM2501 | like the init call all plugins export |
| 04:37.08 | JeffM2501 | you do the same thing in bzfs |
| 04:37.13 | JeffM2501 | with the api functions |
| 04:37.13 | lan56 | I see |
| 04:37.36 | lan56 | let me see if dev-c++ can do expors |
| 04:37.51 | orange | learner: ping |
| 04:37.53 | orange | brlcad: ping |
| 04:37.57 | JeffM2501 | it has to if i builds a real dll |
| 04:38.07 | JeffM2501 | since a dll with nothing exported is pointless |
| 04:38.14 | JeffM2501 | there would be no way into it |
| 04:38.17 | lan56 | then yeah it does I suppose |
| 04:38.31 | brlcad | orange: pong |
| 04:38.35 | learner | orange: pong |
| 04:38.35 | JeffM2501 | it may use a fixed "def" file |
| 04:38.37 | orange | lol |
| 04:38.42 | JeffM2501 | that defines what symbols are exported |
| 04:38.58 | lan56 | right dev-c++ spits out a .def when buildign a dll |
| 04:39.34 | JeffM2501 | ok, then how does it know what to spit out into that def? |
| 04:40.28 | lan56 | well I am unsure I am quite unfamiliar with dll's |
| 04:40.43 | JeffM2501 | you don't have to support plugins, they are optional |
| 04:40.52 | lan56 | it uses gcc collection underneath if that answers anything |
| 04:41.18 | lan56 | right it would be nice to have them though but if it is too complex than it is worth then forget it |
| 04:41.24 | lan56 | I oughta read up on the topic first |
| 04:48.42 | JeffM2501 | bounding radius of a 2d box should be just sqrt(x*x+y*y) right? |
| 04:49.10 | JeffM2501 | where x and y are dist from center to edge |
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| 04:54.40 | brlcad | ~nslookup silverfox.bzflag.bz |
| 04:54.48 | brlcad | ~nslookup silvercat.bzflag.bz |
| 04:57.37 | orange | lol |
| 04:58.46 | lan56 | I see what you mean, when I first read those lines I thought you duplicated your message till I reread it just now |
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| 07:01.18 | A_Meteorite | night all |
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| 07:06.24 | BZBot | New news from opencombatproject: add display list management |
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| 07:36.12 | BZBot | New news from opencombatproject: performnce tracking of the number of binds || drawable system to draw all stuff with same texture together |
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| 08:00.32 | SportChick | orange: ping |
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| 08:06.21 | BZBot | New news from opencombatproject: don't make the UV coords on they X sides of pyramids suck |
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| 13:16.59 | BusyBeaver | hello |
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| 14:50.54 | Mr_Molez | anyone know y i get open of shared memory object failed (permission denied) ? |
| 14:51.16 | Mr_Molez | works as root |
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| 14:56.32 | menotume | Mr_Molez: I thought you were a WinDoze user |
| 14:57.25 | Birdie | lol! |
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| 15:10.09 | Mr_Molez | anyone know y i get the permission denied thing ? |
| 15:10.17 | Mr_Molez | argh,, cvs has gone for another protocol break ? |
| 15:12.22 | ToughShooter | works here with anon login, only sometimes not when you ask |
| 15:12.44 | Grumbler | its a conspiracy i tell ya |
| 15:12.54 | ToughShooter | like it works right now, too |
| 15:14.15 | ToughShooter | maybe sourceforge does a host test and generates errors for users in terrorists countries ;) |
| 15:16.22 | Mr_Molez | y is a protocol break needed ? |
| 15:17.09 | _Manu_ | yes |
| 15:18.23 | Tupone | y? what you mean by "y"? Got a lot of bandwidth , why you want to compress whatever word with y? |
| 15:18.55 | Mr_Molez | Tupone: why type more than needed ? |
| 15:19.07 | Mr_Molez | you understood what i said, so that will do |
| 15:19.09 | Tupone | unless you don;t want an answer |
| 15:19.17 | Tupone | no I dont |
| 15:19.22 | Mr_Molez | well forget it then |
| 15:19.31 | ToughShooter | Mr_Molez: Why typing it a way that is harder to read? |
| 15:19.53 | _Manu_ | y syndrome.. heh |
| 15:19.57 | Tupone | ok, I broke the protocol, probably the best person to answer your question is me. But I don't understand what youwant |
| 15:20.03 | Mr_Molez | ToughShooter: uhh, umm, how is that harder ? |
| 15:20.32 | Mr_Molez | Tupone: I just wanted to know what has changed |
| 15:20.33 | ToughShooter | _Manu_: Maybe it's a qwertz vs. qwerty issue :) |
| 15:21.09 | ToughShooter | heh |
| 15:21.51 | Tupone | Protocol is changed, new messages from client to server. However there are a branch that is still in development that is maintained mainly by trepan. You can access that doing a cvs update -rv2_0branch |
| 15:22.01 | ToughShooter | The protocol is not broken, it is just incompatible to the old used protocol |
| 15:22.02 | Tupone | s/are/is/ |
| 15:22.27 | Tupone | I mean I broke (don't work with the other) |
| 15:22.33 | Mr_Molez | Tupone: ty... oh wait, thats too hard to understand. Thank you |
| 15:22.55 | Tupone | you want the last update on the non breaking release? |
| 15:23.16 | Mr_Molez | nah 2.0.4 will do untill a stable is released |
| 15:23.52 | ToughShooter | Mr_Molez: I think the current CVS builds of the branch are more stable |
| 15:45.30 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03atupone * 10bzflag/src/bzfs/bzfs.cxx: No way to send gametime before entering, until we fix bot code. I remove |
| 16:02.40 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03atupone * 10bzflag/src/bzfs/ (GameKeeper.cxx GameKeeper.h bzfs.cxx): Little step for sharing NetHandler. Passing those to GameKeeper::Player ctor |
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| 17:00.58 | Birdie | the one that hosts the ducati league site ping:) |
| 17:01.16 | Mr_Molez | pimpi aint it ? |
| 17:01.40 | brad2901 | ~bzflist |
| 17:01.43 | Birdie | hmm i dont think so |
| 17:01.51 | Birdie | i thought nidhoggr? |
| 17:01.57 | brad2901 | yes Birdie |
| 17:02.14 | Birdie | but he is idle for 730 hours..:( |
| 17:02.48 | brad2901 | heh |
| 17:03.01 | Pimpi | meno hosts it |
| 17:03.14 | Pimpi | oh, no |
| 17:03.17 | brad2901 | no.. the one at my.bzflag.org |
| 17:03.17 | Birdie | hmm no |
| 17:03.27 | Birdie | bzbb is down to for the same reason |
| 17:03.33 | Pimpi | he doesn't, it's Nidhoggr |
| 17:03.50 | Birdie | all the ones with "bzleague" in the adress are from meno: 1vs1, gu, etc |
| 17:04.17 | Pimpi | aaaaaaaaaaaah, that why global login is broken... |
| 17:04.34 | Pimpi | and i was fiddling on my firewallscript |
| 17:04.40 | Birdie | didnt we had a "plan B" if that server is down? |
| 17:05.00 | Pimpi | unfortunatrely no |
| 17:05.45 | Birdie | that way no one can identify, that way there are no privs |
| 17:06.27 | Mr_Molez | I though dub was going to be registered only ? |
| 17:06.42 | Pimpi | some redundance is planned for furuer versions, but there's not even really a plan how to do it |
| 17:06.53 | Pimpi | Mr_Molez: dub public? no |
| 17:07.08 | Mr_Molez | oh ok |
| 17:07.18 | Pimpi | one could think about that for matchservers |
| 17:07.49 | Birdie | all league players are registered anyway |
| 17:07.54 | Birdie | well 95% of them |
| 17:08.39 | Mr_Molez | the list has been going down alot lately, was down yesterday aswell |
| 17:08.49 | Birdie | hmm its up again, seems like that the server had a bad moment |
| 17:10.08 | brad2901 | is that when they do upgrades/back-ups and stuff like that? |
| 17:12.14 | Mr_Molez | :O |
| 17:12.22 | Mr_Molez | ~smite brad2901 |
| 17:12.25 | ibot | ACTION wields the mighty blade of Argothax and cleaves brad2901 from crown to sole. |
| 17:12.34 | eXtreme | (: |
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| 17:21.04 | TimRiker | FYI: I got an email from a guy at BYU. They are using 1.7g2 in a class there, and are looking to move to current code. |
| 17:21.39 | TimRiker | they have students build a team of bots as a client and then run against a team of bots built by the TAs. |
| 17:21.55 | TimRiker | The single client controls multiple bots. |
| 17:22.16 | TimRiker | thoughts? |
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| 17:26.51 | brlcad | TimRiker: that's the same course that has done bz AI code in the past |
| 17:27.27 | brlcad | several of the students find there way in here for help, there was several nice implementations going too that would have been nice to integrate from the past two years |
| 17:28.26 | ToughShooter | AI? When I run configure it doesn't find artificial intelligence for bz's bots ;) |
| 17:28.44 | brlcad | the bot code is a little more modular, though there definitely have been a bundle of major changes since 1.7 |
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| 18:14.32 | JeffM2501 | when calling g++ how do you specify a #define as part of the compile command line? |
| 18:16.29 | Tupone | -D ? |
| 18:18.06 | JeffM2501 | thanks |
| 18:18.16 | JeffM2501 | gcc manual is rather large isn't it :) |
| 18:18.49 | Tupone | lol, yeah |
| 18:19.16 | Tupone | you can search it though |
| 18:19.22 | JeffM2501 | yeah I was using google |
| 18:19.32 | JeffM2501 | it takes a bit to find out what to serach for |
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| 18:19.50 | JeffM2501 | ended up finding it under "gcc preprocessor macro command line" when you said -D :) |
| 18:21.18 | JeffM2501 | man I wish this built under linux, then I could beg for help on my bugs :( |
| 18:21.37 | Tupone | what is ? |
| 18:21.48 | JeffM2501 | the top down tank thingy |
| 18:22.09 | Tupone | top going down? so a topless tank? |
| 18:30.18 | JeffM2501 | no no, sorry |
| 18:30.20 | JeffM2501 | top view |
| 18:30.26 | JeffM2501 | you haven't seen the screenshots? |
| 18:31.05 | JeffM2501 | http://myth.gibbscam.com/temp/miniwithstuff.png |
| 18:31.09 | Tupone | nope |
| 18:31.21 | JeffM2501 | I even made a movie of it :) |
| 18:31.35 | JeffM2501 | http://beta.bzflag.bz/gpx01.avi |
| 18:33.16 | JeffM2501 | there is a problem with my visibility system tho, and I can't think what it is :( |
| 18:34.10 | JeffM2501 | did I get it to render like 50x faster last night tho, so that's good :) |
| 18:34.28 | Tupone | transfer is slow :( |
| 18:34.42 | JeffM2501 | it's a 14 meg file :( |
| 18:34.51 | orange | argh, I'm using -g and -time 60 on a test bzfs, and after the time is up I can keep playing, and the timer says "0:00" |
| 18:35.01 | orange | I'm hoping someone has seen this before and can tell me why :-) |
| 18:36.45 | orange | is there another flag that could conflict? |
| 18:37.23 | menotume | hmm, me looks |
| 18:37.31 | orange | look at go-test menotume |
| 18:37.53 | orange | I can run it if you want to join the server, too |
| 18:38.58 | BZBot | New news from opencombatproject: update the makefiles with current files. don't make linux build fmod ( for now... || let a build system define _NO_FMOD_ to not include fmod since it may be the... |
| 18:39.23 | trepan | JeffM2501: hehe, how'd you pick the music? |
| 18:39.43 | JeffM2501 | it's from katamari |
| 18:39.50 | JeffM2501 | I wanted something silly sounding |
| 18:39.57 | JeffM2501 | but then I found out that MS movie maker sucks |
| 18:40.03 | JeffM2501 | and sucks hard |
| 18:40.45 | trepan | not using an existing gfx engine? |
| 18:40.50 | JeffM2501 | naw |
| 18:40.58 | JeffM2501 | it's just play around test code |
| 18:41.16 | JeffM2501 | but it keeps geting cooler looking |
| 18:41.25 | JeffM2501 | started it to test networking |
| 18:41.40 | JeffM2501 | it totaly needs shadows now |
| 18:41.57 | JeffM2501 | you'd fall down laughing if you saw how the tank shadow is done |
| 18:42.48 | trepan | blended texture drawn with an offset? |
| 18:42.50 | TimRiker | brlcad: yes, same course. The thought is to see if we can handle the features they need in the main distro so they can at least run off the current stable distro. |
| 18:42.58 | JeffM2501 | mmmmaaaaaaayyyyybbbe :0 |
| 18:43.22 | TimRiker | I would hope that we could end up with server launched bots. Perhaps even multiple personalities of bots. |
| 18:44.20 | TimRiker | In the current course it sounds like the build a single text based client that implements multiple bots that can communicate. (not messaging) |
| 18:44.30 | JeffM2501 | trepan, the music came down to between that stuff and Eric Cartman singing "come sail away" |
| 18:45.17 | trepan | touch call :) |
| 18:45.21 | trepan | s/touch/tough |
| 18:46.01 | JeffM2501 | I want to get some objects for common house hold items and throw them in there, like a shoe, cerial box |
| 18:46.09 | JeffM2501 | TimRiker, you are right |
| 18:46.15 | TimRiker | :) |
| 18:46.18 | JeffM2501 | this is a character in south park's rendition |
| 18:46.23 | JeffM2501 | it's horibly funy |
| 18:46.41 | JeffM2501 | I'm not so much ether, but this is realy funny |
| 18:47.01 | TimRiker | it makes people call me timmy and I start looking for wheelchairs. |
| 18:47.14 | JeffM2501 | heh |
| 18:48.54 | JeffM2501 | dtr found me a shoe object |
| 18:48.57 | JeffM2501 | no texture tho :( |
| 18:49.25 | JeffM2501 | 2k+ faces |
| 18:52.55 | Tupone | TimRiker: I'm working on making the "bzflag -relay" concept possible. At least doing all the things that need to be done on server. I think after that would be more easy to separate graphic client from bots |
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| 19:39.12 | BZBot | New news from opencombatproject: add a todo |
| 19:57.41 | Grumbler | TimRiker: you are not out of touch, i was thinking the same thing while i was reading it |
| 19:59.05 | JeffM2501 | come sail away... come sail away.. come sail away with me.... |
| 20:00.01 | Aribeth | STYX |
| 20:00.50 | Grumbler | baby its cold outside......al hirt, ann margret |
| 20:01.12 | Aribeth | thats going back aways |
| 20:01.27 | trepan | JeffM2501: shaddup, or i'll stick an air-supply song in your head |
| 20:01.36 | Thumper_ | lol |
| 20:01.37 | Aribeth | grrrrr |
| 20:01.42 | JeffM2501 | heh |
| 20:01.46 | Aribeth | heh |
| 20:01.56 | JeffM2501 | air supply is before my time IIRC |
| 20:02.01 | Aribeth | now that really chaps my ..... |
| 20:02.04 | Aribeth | :P |
| 20:02.16 | JeffM2501 | we built this city... we built this city on rock and rolllllllllllllllllllllllll |
| 20:02.32 | JeffM2501 | yay for free food |
| 20:03.44 | Grumbler | ...hammer time |
| 20:07.37 | Grumbler | its the final countdown, were leaving tomorrow... |
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| 20:07.50 | orange | bah, don't say countdown to me :-) |
| 20:08.13 | Grumbler | heh |
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| 20:27.27 | Grumbler | new kernel for sarge |
| 20:41.18 | JeffM2501 | Aribeth, ok to make you feel better, airsupply wasn't before my time, I just didn't listen to em |
| 20:42.09 | Aribeth | hehheheee |
| 20:42.22 | Aribeth | i was just kidding |
| 20:42.24 | Aribeth | :) |
| 20:42.27 | JeffM2501 | probably because I was 8 when there first album came out |
| 20:42.38 | JeffM2501 | and I was all about Gi-Joe |
| 20:42.39 | Aribeth | ahh |
| 20:42.45 | Aribeth | yep |
| 20:42.46 | JeffM2501 | and pong |
| 20:42.49 | JeffM2501 | pong rocked |
| 20:43.14 | Aribeth | i had already had to put up with disco and then saw it die |
| 20:43.27 | JeffM2501 | that must have been a good day when you watched it die |
| 20:43.39 | Aribeth | i always said "dis gota go" |
| 20:43.46 | JeffM2501 | I had to grow up with hair bands and those skinny skinny ties |
| 20:43.52 | Aribeth | it was |
| 20:43.59 | Aribeth | yep |
| 20:44.23 | Aribeth | i suffered through those times waiting for rock to return |
| 20:44.30 | JeffM2501 | heh |
| 20:44.53 | Aribeth | i watched many good rock stations die too |
| 20:45.15 | JeffM2501 | noone listens to raidio anymore |
| 20:45.24 | Aribeth | ya |
| 20:45.53 | JeffM2501 | tho I am happy that I have XM radio with directTV now |
| 20:45.56 | JeffM2501 | it's very nice |
| 20:45.59 | Aribeth | only one good rock station out here |
| 20:46.47 | Aribeth | most of what i like isn't played on the radio anyways |
| 20:48.00 | BearPerson | a.k.a. pr0n |
| 20:48.05 | Aribeth | lol |
| 20:48.07 | JeffM2501 | music |
| 20:48.08 | JeffM2501 | heh |
| 20:48.15 | JeffM2501 | there is no point in saving pr0n |
| 20:48.21 | JeffM2501 | you can allways get it again |
| 20:48.27 | Aribeth | !lart BenUrban for that comment :P |
| 20:48.31 | Aribeth | oops |
| 20:48.37 | Aribeth | ~lart BenUrban for that comment :P |
| 20:48.43 | Aribeth | lol |
| 20:48.49 | JeffM2501 | it's wierd how the net makes you not realy worry about backups |
| 20:49.09 | Aribeth | yes i have noticed that |
| 20:49.17 | JeffM2501 | the music is the only thing I'm worried about loosing |
| 20:49.20 | JeffM2501 | and I Have it in 2 places |
| 20:49.23 | JeffM2501 | home and work |
| 20:49.29 | Aribeth | :) |
| 20:49.34 | JeffM2501 | all other projects are in multiple places |
| 20:49.38 | JeffM2501 | or in a CVS or SVN somewhere |
| 20:49.55 | Aribeth | good practice i alway say |
| 20:50.37 | JeffM2501 | ben probly keeps his pr0n in cvs |
| 20:50.40 | ToughShooter | I've all important stuff on my one HD and backups that are always totally outdated |
| 20:50.41 | JeffM2501 | for "history" ;) |
| 20:50.54 | Aribeth | roflol |
| 20:51.10 | Aribeth | eek |
| 20:51.10 | JeffM2501 | high speed pr0n |
| 20:51.24 | Aribeth | no raid 5? |
| 20:51.29 | BearPerson | actually, maybe the best way to backup data is to steghide it into some (good) pr0n and spread it around the web |
| 20:51.33 | BearPerson | nope, software raid |
| 20:51.38 | Aribeth | eek |
| 20:51.51 | BearPerson | don't want to spend all of my cpu time writing ;-) |
| 20:53.33 | Workaphobia | BearPerson: Ha! |
| 20:54.44 | Aribeth | i noticed that there are fewer kids/munchkins on the member servers :) |
| 20:55.11 | JeffM2501 | now you see why I sugest a memeber system for bzflag? :) |
| 20:55.31 | Aribeth | and i would fully suport it :) |
| 20:56.16 | Aribeth | when there are 1000 kids on a server I cant get anything done |
| 20:56.37 | JeffM2501 | and people say paying for software is bad :) |
| 20:56.48 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03trepan 07v2_0branch * 10bzflag/src/bzfs/ (RecordReplay.cxx RecordReplay.h commands.cxx): |
| 20:56.48 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: Replay/record listing additions for DUB: |
| 20:56.48 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: - limit number of listed entries to 100 |
| 20:56.48 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: - allow pattern matching for file names |
| 20:56.48 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: - added the '--' termination option |
| 20:57.22 | Aribeth | im for it so as to keep the munchkins out |
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| 20:57.54 | JeffM2501 | what about to help the people that make it earn a living? |
| 20:58.12 | Aribeth | yes i suport that too |
| 20:58.27 | JeffM2501 | and what about just so I can get a mini cooper? |
| 20:58.38 | Aribeth | :) |
| 20:59.15 | JeffM2501 | well I want a real one |
| 20:59.24 | JeffM2501 | tho need to test one to make sure I fit :) |
| 20:59.41 | Aribeth | how tall are you |
| 20:59.50 | JeffM2501 | 5,8 |
| 21:00.05 | Aribeth | you should fit. im 5,7 |
| 21:00.34 | JeffM2501 | and you have a cooper? |
| 21:00.44 | Aribeth | no, i have a big car |
| 21:00.57 | Aribeth | small cars scare me |
| 21:01.12 | Aribeth | its the crunch factor |
| 21:01.34 | JeffM2501 | to me it's a street legal go-cart |
| 21:01.37 | JeffM2501 | and that just rocks :) |
| 21:01.45 | Aribeth | :) |
| 21:02.00 | JeffM2501 | but I'll probalby just spend my money on building a rocket |
| 21:02.23 | Aribeth | :) |
| 21:02.40 | Tupone | 178 what ? kg ? |
| 21:02.49 | Aribeth | i became a member on runescape yesterday cause of the kids |
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| 21:03.07 | JeffM2501 | you have taken your first step into a larger world |
| 21:03.13 | JeffM2501 | next I'll expect to see you in WoW |
| 21:03.16 | Thumper_ | crunch factor: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6605730767077503480 |
| 21:03.20 | Aribeth | thats my weight |
| 21:03.25 | Aribeth | yes |
| 21:03.33 | Aribeth | maybe |
| 21:03.37 | Tupone | I guess lb |
| 21:03.44 | Aribeth | yes |
| 21:03.48 | Tupone | why you don't use mks |
| 21:04.04 | JeffM2501 | and then it exploded...... |
| 21:04.19 | Aribeth | eek, the pic head went flying again |
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| 21:05.26 | Aribeth | mining coal takes much time |
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| 21:07.40 | Aribeth | i need to get my smithing level up so i can work mitheril |
| 21:08.21 | Aribeth | im level 55 and i killed a level 79 shade yesterdat |
| 21:08.32 | JeffM2501 | your uber |
| 21:09.08 | Aribeth | i have an amulet od strength |
| 21:09.34 | Aribeth | er of |
| 21:09.57 | retro | You need an amulet to protect against typos. :-) |
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| 21:10.13 | Aribeth | hehe |
| 21:10.22 | Aribeth | i do |
| 21:10.23 | JeffM2501 | embrace the chaos of typos |
| 21:10.34 | JeffM2501 | it is the path to true ultimage power |
| 21:10.59 | Aribeth | im a level 45 mage |
| 21:11.15 | retro | What game are you talking about Aribeth? |
| 21:11.22 | Aribeth | runescape |
| 21:11.24 | purple_cow | heh, untimage |
| 21:11.28 | purple_cow | err, ultimage :P |
| 21:11.32 | purple_cow | JeffM2501: it's catching! |
| 21:11.38 | Aribeth | hehe |
| 21:11.47 | JeffM2501 | purple_cow, ? |
| 21:11.51 | ToughShooter | ~lb |
| 21:11.52 | ibot | Quick and Dirty Load-Balancing System in Perl. URL: ftp://212.208.183.137/pub/lbsystem.tgz |
| 21:11.52 | JeffM2501 | oh the typos |
| 21:11.52 | JeffM2501 | yes |
| 21:11.55 | JeffM2501 | feel the power |
| 21:12.02 | ToughShooter | ~dict lb |
| 21:12.57 | Aribeth | im waiting til i can take out the crazy chicken |
| 21:12.57 | JeffM2501 | purple_cow, did you like the music I used in the mini tank movie? |
| 21:13.10 | JeffM2501 | you need super sauce for that |
| 21:13.26 | purple_cow | JeffM2501: i watched it on my laptop, which is usually muted =P |
| 21:13.33 | JeffM2501 | ahh |
| 21:13.34 | Aribeth | it sends out mind waves that rob you of hit points |
| 21:13.36 | purple_cow | if you gimme a url again, i'll watch it with sound |
| 21:14.00 | purple_cow | alternatively, you could just send the music |
| 21:14.34 | JeffM2501 | http://beta.bzflag.org/gpx01.avi |
| 21:14.37 | JeffM2501 | it uses 2 songs |
| 21:14.44 | JeffM2501 | techincaly you allready have them :) |
| 21:15.09 | JeffM2501 | I just thought it woudl make you laugh |
| 21:16.18 | purple_cow | can't resolve beta.bzflag.org |
| 21:16.24 | JeffM2501 | .bz |
| 21:16.25 | JeffM2501 | sorry |
| 21:16.26 | JeffM2501 | my bad |
| 21:16.40 | JeffM2501 | doing too many things today:( |
| 21:20.04 | purple_cow | har |
| 21:20.24 | JeffM2501 | I want to get models of like shoes, tenis balls and stuff and make you drive around them :) |
| 21:20.40 | purple_cow | it does have that kind of a look to it |
| 21:21.40 | ToughShooter | JeffM2501: Why does the tank sometimes stop suddently before a building but there's still a little distance in HUD? Is that bad collision detecting? |
| 21:21.54 | JeffM2501 | no, just bad driving :) |
| 21:22.03 | JeffM2501 | the motion is all me |
| 21:22.34 | JeffM2501 | there is any CD, so I was trying to make sure I didn't drive thru anything |
| 21:22.39 | JeffM2501 | isn't not is |
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| 21:24.54 | trepan | JeffM2501: what repo is gpx01 using? |
| 21:25.07 | JeffM2501 | I was going to do CD next, but I'm worried now that I have vis problems since they use the same funcitons |
| 21:25.22 | JeffM2501 | trepan, opencombat, GPx01 is the module |
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| 21:26.37 | trepan | heh, sf has an 'open combat' proj too |
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| 21:26.45 | JeffM2501 | it does? |
| 21:27.02 | JeffM2501 | I had to fight to get opencombat :( |
| 21:27.07 | trepan | http://sourceforge.net/projects/adv-warfare |
| 21:28.32 | JeffM2501 | you have ssh access now |
| 21:28.48 | JeffM2501 | ooo they have a screenshot |
| 21:29.00 | JeffM2501 | nice ground they have |
| 21:29.28 | ToughShooter | "they" seems to be one developer |
| 21:29.37 | JeffM2501 | heh |
| 21:30.26 | JeffM2501 | I'm not much better |
| 21:30.28 | gsnedders | DirectX :( |
| 21:30.33 | JeffM2501 | evil |
| 21:31.42 | gsnedders | OS specific |
| 21:32.01 | JeffM2501 | yeah one reason I never got much into direct3d |
| 21:32.12 | JeffM2501 | and it's just fugly fugly api |
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| 21:50.59 | JeffM2501 | stupid network servers :( |
| 21:52.39 | menotume | trepan: pingy |
| 21:53.50 | menotume | got a minute (maybe 2) ? There's a bug in v2_0 branch regarding TimeKeeper class, which I HATE, and don't understand |
| 21:54.06 | orange | trepan is playing on silvercat |
| 21:54.07 | orange | fyi |
| 21:54.12 | menotume | ahh, okies, thx |
| 21:54.26 | JeffM2501 | timekeeper is vile |
| 21:54.28 | menotume | wait. a dev. playing ? |
| 21:54.40 | menotume | an abuse of OO |
| 21:55.02 | menotume | it should do one thing - return current time as a flot, period. |
| 21:55.26 | JeffM2501 | gee... that's what the Timmer class in gpx01 does... who knew :) |
| 21:55.34 | JeffM2501 | well it does float, double, and string |
| 21:55.42 | JeffM2501 | as well as time for last frame |
| 21:55.45 | menotume | :) |
| 21:55.52 | brad2901 | just tried latest CVS.. when I join a game it crashes |
| 21:56.29 | menotume | there's a test in bzfs main loop - "!countdownPauseStart" (a TimeKeeper) |
| 21:56.31 | JeffM2501 | cvs for what version? |
| 21:56.36 | brad2901 | 2.0.5 |
| 21:56.45 | menotume | I don't know why it works in some places, but it does not work at bzflag.b |
| 21:56.47 | JeffM2501 | brad2901, you on an ATI card? |
| 21:56.52 | brad2901 | yup |
| 21:56.55 | menotume | brad2901: then don't join |
| 21:57.10 | brad2901 | ? |
| 21:57.29 | menotume | don't join if you don't want it to crash |
| 21:57.29 | brad2901 | so.. why can't I even play at localhost? |
| 21:57.30 | menotume | :P |
| 21:57.33 | JeffM2501 | there was a thing in the config that could help ATI cards |
| 21:57.34 | brad2901 | :( |
| 21:57.38 | JeffM2501 | is it all servers or just some? |
| 21:57.39 | brad2901 | oh? |
| 21:57.41 | brad2901 | all |
| 21:57.45 | JeffM2501 | oh |
| 21:57.47 | brad2901 | or all I have tried |
| 21:57.50 | JeffM2501 | then may not be it |
| 21:57.53 | JeffM2501 | try a local one |
| 21:57.57 | brad2901 | I have |
| 21:57.58 | brad2901 | same |
| 21:58.01 | JeffM2501 | randome map |
| 21:58.05 | brad2901 | ok |
| 21:58.18 | JeffM2501 | try one with out 2.0 crap basicly |
| 21:58.36 | brad2901 | I tried hix at localhost.. |
| 21:58.46 | brad2901 | that's pretty plain |
| 21:58.49 | JeffM2501 | it is |
| 21:58.54 | JeffM2501 | then dono |
| 22:01.27 | Tupone | brad2901: what OS ? |
| 22:01.35 | brad2901 | windows XP :) |
| 22:01.45 | Tupone | I can't help then :/ |
| 22:01.54 | brad2901 | ok |
| 22:02.18 | JeffM2501 | what did you build with? |
| 22:02.41 | brad2901 | dev-cpp |
| 22:02.48 | JeffM2501 | can't help ya then |
| 22:02.59 | brad2901 | ok, np |
| 22:03.09 | JeffM2501 | well I can do a real build |
| 22:03.16 | JeffM2501 | and you could see if that crashes |
| 22:03.17 | brad2901 | also.. 2.1.* doesn't build anymore |
| 22:03.18 | JeffM2501 | that's about it |
| 22:03.21 | brad2901 | JeffM2501: sure |
| 22:03.25 | brad2901 | if you could |
| 22:03.32 | JeffM2501 | did you try the last binary dtremena did? |
| 22:03.34 | JeffM2501 | does that work? |
| 22:03.42 | brad2901 | haven't seen one (: |
| 22:03.44 | brad2901 | i'll look |
| 22:03.46 | JeffM2501 | the devC++ projects are not allways up to date |
| 22:03.57 | JeffM2501 | so it would not suprise me if they don't build |
| 22:04.04 | brad2901 | ok |
| 22:08.48 | wizatcom | brad2901: having trouble with dev cpp? |
| 22:09.24 | brad2901 | wizart: I don't *think* so, well not 2.0.* at least. It builds with no errors, but crashes on join. |
| 22:09.36 | brad2901 | I'm downloading DTRemenak's build now |
| 22:09.47 | wizatcom | have you taken care of windows firewall? |
| 22:09.49 | brad2901 | at a super speed of 26kB/s |
| 22:09.50 | wizatcom | if you're using it |
| 22:09.53 | brad2901 | yes |
| 22:09.55 | brad2901 | it's off |
| 22:10.03 | brad2901 | I use another one |
| 22:10.06 | wizatcom | when does it crash? |
| 22:10.07 | wizatcom | ok |
| 22:10.09 | JeffM2501 | you have to turn off the firewall? |
| 22:10.12 | brad2901 | no |
| 22:10.14 | JeffM2501 | on devC++ builds? |
| 22:10.17 | brad2901 | nope |
| 22:10.18 | wizatcom | JeffM2501: no, just configure windows firewall |
| 22:10.26 | JeffM2501 | wow |
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| 22:10.27 | wizatcom | he said his windows firewall was off becasue he used something else |
| 22:10.28 | brad2901 | I use a McAffee one |
| 22:10.30 | tyll | Hiyas |
| 22:13.22 | brad2901 | JeffM2501: that ons works fine |
| 22:13.24 | brad2901 | one* |
| 22:13.41 | JeffM2501 | one what? |
| 22:13.46 | brad2901 | DTR's build |
| 22:13.48 | JeffM2501 | well then it could be your build |
| 22:13.52 | JeffM2501 | it coudl be newer code |
| 22:13.56 | JeffM2501 | hard to say |
| 22:14.06 | JeffM2501 | I'd run it in the devC++ debuger and see where it crashes at |
| 22:14.50 | brad2901 | shall I update CVS and try again, then show you the compile log? |
| 22:15.04 | JeffM2501 | the compile log won't show anything |
| 22:15.06 | JeffM2501 | just debug it |
| 22:15.08 | JeffM2501 | see where it dies |
| 22:15.27 | JeffM2501 | then best to learn |
| 22:15.29 | wizatcom | brad2901: i'll grab the latest CVS and try it |
| 22:15.41 | brad2901 | ok |
| 22:15.42 | wizatcom | brad2901: you are getting v2_0branch right? |
| 22:15.47 | brad2901 | yep |
| 22:15.53 | wizatcom | ok |
| 22:15.57 | JeffM2501 | wizatcom, should make the kiddo think for himself :) |
| 22:16.10 | JeffM2501 | if you are building your own versions you have to be prepared to dev on them a bit |
| 22:16.22 | wizatcom | JeffM2501: i've made the mistake before of getting the wrong branch |
| 22:16.36 | wizatcom | and the devcpp files don't always work like they should |
| 22:16.39 | JeffM2501 | wizatcom, oh that part was fine, that wasn't what Iw as talking about |
| 22:16.41 | brad2901 | I didn't know there was a way of debugging a build.. |
| 22:16.49 | wizatcom | JeffM2501: oh ok |
| 22:16.50 | JeffM2501 | dev Cpp is a joke of an IDE |
| 22:16.52 | JeffM2501 | but it shoudl work |
| 22:16.54 | wizatcom | brad2901: there is :) |
| 22:17.10 | JeffM2501 | wizatcom, that's what I was saying he should be made to do himself :)( |
| 22:17.16 | wizatcom | ah i see |
| 22:17.43 | JeffM2501 | yeah it comes with docs |
| 22:17.45 | JeffM2501 | read em |
| 22:17.48 | JeffM2501 | it's not that hard |
| 22:18.16 | brad2901 | ok ;) |
| 22:22.46 | wizatcom | brad2901: any luck with debugging yet? |
| 22:22.57 | brad2901 | had to recompile with debugging info |
| 22:23.09 | brad2901 | half done |
| 22:23.29 | wizatcom | mmmghp |
| 22:26.14 | JeffM2501 | you mean people actualy build release versions? |
| 22:26.15 | JeffM2501 | wow |
| 22:26.33 | brad2901 | Why would't we? |
| 22:26.38 | brad2901 | wouldn't* |
| 22:27.23 | JeffM2501 | because then you can't debug at the drop of a hat :) |
| 22:27.44 | trepan | menotume: what's bug? |
| 22:27.57 | wizatcom | JeffM2501: users shouldn't have to debug it :p |
| 22:28.09 | JeffM2501 | but why would they not WANT to? |
| 22:28.09 | menotume | awww, you didn't have to leve silvercat :) |
| 22:28.14 | JeffM2501 | to see the glory of the code |
| 22:28.21 | menotume | trepan: -g doesn't work at bzflag.bz |
| 22:28.33 | brad2901 | bb in 30.. someone "needs" me |
| 22:28.49 | trepan | menotume: sure it's a timekeeper bug? |
| 22:28.51 | menotume | it has to do with the "!countdownPauseStart" test in bzfs main loop |
| 22:29.04 | menotume | no, not TimeKeeper itself, but how it's used |
| 22:29.12 | menotume | and, I just don't understand it |
| 22:29.45 | trepan | think Tup/Tim/etc... were the guys who last mod'ed the countdown stuff |
| 22:30.11 | menotume | but, it works elsewhere (other servers) |
| 22:30.19 | menotume | ok, Tupone ! |
| 22:31.16 | menotume | I just don't understand how one can do this: TimeKeeper countdownPauseStart = TimeKeeper::getNullTime(); |
| 22:31.28 | menotume | then, do if (! countdownPauseStart) |
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| 22:31.52 | menotume | my ++ ignorance |
| 22:32.01 | menotume | Tupone: just in time :) |
| 22:32.03 | trepan | menotume: using a boolean op with the TimeKeeper class, kinda messy |
| 22:32.18 | menotume | well, it doesn't work on bzflag.bz |
| 22:32.30 | menotume | works here, and other places though |
| 22:33.13 | menotume | ok, i'm gonna fill my stomach, then dig into it a bit |
| 22:33.14 | trepan | freebsd may be a little diff wrt float pointing comparisons, dunno |
| 22:33.25 | menotume | ahh |
| 22:33.29 | menotume | probably it |
| 22:33.39 | menotume | hehe |
| 22:33.43 | trepan | that code is just ugly, try countdownPauseStart != TimeKeeper::getNullTime() |
| 22:33.58 | menotume | ahh, i ALMOST did that :) |
| 22:34.19 | menotume | yes, the whole timing logic seems over-comnplex - too many states, etc. |
| 22:34.29 | enotup | 50 ? |
| 22:34.29 | menotume | thx trepan, will try |
| 22:36.07 | menotume | trepan: you do realize that me-not-here was me, yes ? |
| 22:36.14 | menotume | :) |
| 22:36.18 | trepan | yup |
| 22:36.22 | menotume | ok :) |
| 22:36.35 | menotume | just trying to keep you on your toes |
| 22:37.02 | trepan | same cadence, and with a reference; hard to miss |
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| 22:39.42 | brad2901 | strange, it has been linking for 5 minutes now.. |
| 22:39.47 | brad2901 | usually takes a few seconds |
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| 22:40.04 | brad2901 | ah, done (: |
| 22:42.13 | trepan | menotume: hope that that record/list thing is sufficient for ya |
| 22:42.35 | menotume | we're good |
| 22:42.41 | menotume | did you make a change ? |
| 22:42.49 | brad2901 | is the filesize supposed to be ~30MB larger? |
| 22:42.53 | brad2901 | and.. it works! |
| 22:43.04 | trepan | committed around 2hrs ago |
| 22:43.10 | menotume | great!, thx |
| 22:43.12 | wizatcom | brad2901: yes |
| 22:43.15 | menotume | i'll look laters |
| 22:43.19 | brad2901 | :) |
| 22:43.25 | wizatcom | it has all the debugging info in it |
| 22:43.50 | menotume | "countdownPauseStart == TimeKeeper::getNullTime()" |
| 22:43.52 | menotume | bzfs.cxx:4648: error: no match for 'operator==' in 'countdownPauseStart == |
| 22:43.52 | menotume | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:43.54 | menotume | hehe |
| 22:44.13 | menotume | makes sense, sortof |
| 22:44.16 | brad2901 | wizatcom: thanks for the help |
| 22:44.29 | brad2901 | ~wizatcomp++ |
| 22:44.30 | trepan | add a static companion bool then, keep it simple |
| 22:44.32 | wizatcom | brad2901: you're welcome |
| 22:44.34 | brad2901 | ~effM2501++ |
| 22:44.37 | brad2901 | uh |
| 22:44.44 | brad2901 | ~jeffM2501++ |
| 22:44.44 | wizatcom | ? |
| 22:45.08 | menotume | trepan: right, thx |
| 22:50.58 | JeffM2501 | what did I do now? |
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