| 00:00.49 | *** join/#bzflag brad2901 (i=brad@unaffiliated/brad2901) |
| 00:01.39 | *** join/#bzflag twogigovercu (n=twogigov@pcp0010267049pcs.indpnd01.mo.comcast.net) |
| 00:02.03 | twogigovercu | ayer peperonis |
| 00:04.19 | *** join/#bzflag eXtreme (n=foo@62.79.123.79.adsl.hvi.tiscali.dk) |
| 00:11.11 | lan56 | "c is for catilist x" |
| 00:11.15 | lan56 | "h is for hepcat" |
| 00:11.31 | A_Meteorite | and? |
| 00:11.58 | lan56 | solarflare changed its name in response to how much it was like silvercat |
| 00:12.09 | A_Meteorite | yeah.. |
| 00:12.11 | lan56 | yet it is still copying things from the roots |
| 00:12.17 | A_Meteorite | I know. :| |
| 00:12.37 | lan56 | I am simply mentioning it, I thought the name change would make it a bit more of a unique server |
| 00:12.46 | A_Meteorite | that's why his server is popular all the time |
| 00:13.02 | A_Meteorite | too much like the "big guys" |
| 00:13.42 | lan56 | it is a nice server, I just criticize it because it is seemingly stealing popularity from those that truly earned it |
| 00:14.18 | A_Meteorite | *cough* mine is dead *cough* |
| 00:16.25 | *** join/#bzflag wizatcomp (n=wizatcom@pool-162-83-98-30.culp.east.verizon.net) |
| 00:21.07 | wizatcomp | is there a bzflag client that doesn't have a GUI and only acts as a bot? |
| 00:21.15 | lan56 | bzadmin |
| 00:21.24 | lan56 | wait, by bot what do you mean? |
| 00:21.28 | A_Meteorite | bzadmin is not a bot |
| 00:21.30 | wizatcomp | like auto-pilot |
| 00:21.38 | wizatcomp | my server is set up with one bot now |
| 00:21.38 | lan56 | no, there is no such thing |
| 00:21.52 | wizatcomp | and i'd like something better than having to keep bzflag minimised to run it |
| 00:22.17 | wizatcomp | hmm |
| 00:22.23 | wizatcomp | wonder how hard that would be to code |
| 00:22.41 | wizatcomp | or rather strip code from the official client |
| 00:22.48 | lan56 | btw, how is dev-c++ working out for you? |
| 00:23.20 | *** join/#bzflag sgk284 (n=stevek@AC919F4C.ipt.aol.com) |
| 00:23.36 | wizatcomp | lan56: good |
| 00:23.48 | wizatcomp | except the dev-c++ file seems to be lacking some files |
| 00:23.56 | wizatcomp | the one that was in CVS a week or two ago |
| 00:24.07 | wizatcomp | spent a goof hour at school wondering why it wouldn't compile |
| 00:24.10 | wizatcomp | *good |
| 00:24.19 | brad2901 | lan56: you need to add bancommands.cxx |
| 00:24.26 | sgk284 | hey guys, just fyi I saw a link to this in a sig on slashdot, I know there are lots of cheat clients out there, and there may be nothing that can be done about it right now, but this one seems to be gaining popularity: http://bdotson.us/projects/modified-bzflag-client/ |
| 00:24.47 | lan56 | brad2901: will do that now |
| 00:24.52 | brad2901 | lan56: thanks :) |
| 00:24.59 | lan56 | wizatcomp: I'll fix it now |
| 00:25.05 | wizatcomp | lan56: thanks |
| 00:26.33 | wizatcomp | sgk284: some of the "features" have been fixed in the server code |
| 00:26.41 | wizatcomp | and the rest aren't that hard to fix either |
| 00:26.43 | wizatcomp | server wise |
| 00:27.43 | Tupone | another guy to ban from irc then |
| 00:27.45 | wizatcomp | heh |
| 00:27.50 | lan56 | seeing how cheats are made can help stop them in future versions |
| 00:27.50 | wizatcomp | Planned feature: "Modify the client’s version to mask the build date." |
| 00:28.02 | lan56 | "planned"? |
| 00:28.05 | wizatcomp | that takes all of 30 to disable |
| 00:28.06 | wizatcomp | yes |
| 00:28.10 | wizatcomp | in the modifed client |
| 00:28.10 | lan56 | it takes about 1 minute to do that |
| 00:28.27 | wizatcomp | takes the longest to find the file |
| 00:28.37 | wizatcomp | i modded my version to show that it was devel and a project |
| 00:29.16 | sgk284 | heh |
| 00:29.43 | blast007 | ~seen bdotson |
| 00:29.44 | ibot | bdotson <i=brian@c-69-252-245-187.hsd1.ga.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #bzflag, 7h 5m 42s ago, saying: 'if they knew what a packet was, they would be working a better paying job'. |
| 00:30.21 | wizatcomp | he was talking about his cable modem |
| 00:30.24 | wizatcomp | this morning |
| 00:31.11 | blast007 | the problem with that client is that it's designed to avoid detection |
| 00:31.25 | blast007 | subtle cheats |
| 00:31.29 | wizatcomp | right |
| 00:31.46 | wizatcomp | well, i'll poke around the source and see what i can find |
| 00:32.05 | blast007 | it's all easy cheats |
| 00:32.12 | wizatcomp | yah |
| 00:32.14 | blast007 | he's just a n00b at hacking the code |
| 00:32.18 | wizatcomp | yah |
| 00:32.25 | wizatcomp | the "planned: mask build date" really proves it |
| 00:32.30 | wizatcomp | that's one of the simpelest things |
| 00:32.49 | A_Meteorite | hehe |
| 00:32.54 | lan56 | emphasize the "planning" as if it takes a lot of work to figure it out |
| 00:32.56 | A_Meteorite | I have that done |
| 00:33.13 | A_Meteorite | I don't cheat, but I've modded my client string. |
| 00:33.19 | A_Meteorite | simple |
| 00:33.21 | A_Meteorite | as pie |
| 00:34.00 | wizatcomp | yup |
| 00:34.24 | *** join/#bzflag SilentSwan (n=cygnus@unaffiliated/silentswan) |
| 00:34.48 | A_Meteorite | hey SS |
| 00:34.52 | SilentSwan | hi |
| 00:35.02 | blast007 | http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools/whois.ch?ip=bdotson.us |
| 00:35.02 | lan56 | hi SilentSwan |
| 00:35.13 | SilentSwan | hey lan56 |
| 00:35.27 | SilentSwan | hmm.. trying to find suitable kickstart and workbench roms for UAE... |
| 00:35.48 | SilentSwan | i used to have a bunch, but must have deleted them long ago :( |
| 00:35.56 | wizatcomp | i wonder if he commented what he changed |
| 00:37.17 | wizatcomp | amazing |
| 00:37.33 | wizatcomp | in his source rar, he left all 50mb of the built object files |
| 00:37.40 | A_Meteorite | LOL! |
| 00:37.49 | wizatcomp | the source RAR was 27mb |
| 00:37.50 | A_Meteorite | he couldn't even do make clean? |
| 00:37.54 | blast007 | lol |
| 00:38.00 | blast007 | is there CVS directories too? |
| 00:38.04 | wizatcomp | expanded - 112Mb |
| 00:38.04 | A_Meteorite | hehe!! |
| 00:38.19 | wizatcomp | blast007: no CVS |
| 00:38.38 | A_Meteorite | must be a 2.0.4 stable |
| 00:38.55 | *** join/#bzflag bryjen (n=bryjen@2002:45a6:86ae:0:0:0:0:1) |
| 00:39.37 | Tupone | bdotson used to lurk on this irc, before (or while) doing his cheat client |
| 00:39.49 | A_Meteorite | lol |
| 00:39.50 | wizatcomp | he was here this morning |
| 00:39.54 | A_Meteorite | omg |
| 00:40.04 | wizatcomp | complainging about clueless cable modem techs |
| 00:40.15 | A_Meteorite | I wouldn't be surprised if he uses these cheats.... :o |
| 00:40.37 | wizatcomp | modding the code in bzflag is pretty easy to make it so you can cheat |
| 00:40.40 | blast007 | I should make a "cheat client" that sends "I am cheating, look at me!" to the admins |
| 00:40.45 | wizatcomp | and asking for help is a dead giveaway |
| 00:40.47 | wizatcomp | heh |
| 00:40.47 | A_Meteorite | hehe!! |
| 00:42.01 | CIA-2 | BZFlag: 03lan56 * 10bzflag/Dev-C++/ (bzadmin.dev bzfs.dev): updates |
| 00:42.24 | wizatcomp | thank you lan56 |
| 00:42.25 | blast007 | lan56: is v2_0branch up to date? |
| 00:42.34 | lan56 | wizatcomp, np |
| 00:42.40 | *** mode/#bzflag [+v DTRemenak] by ChanServ |
| 00:42.41 | lan56 | blast007, I believe so |
| 00:42.47 | blast007 | k |
| 00:43.13 | brad2901 | lan56: bancommands.cxx is needed in v2_0branch aswell I think |
| 00:43.25 | lan56 | ahh |
| 00:43.33 | lan56 | let me fix that |
| 00:43.41 | brad2901 | :) |
| 00:43.53 | wizatcomp | bahahaha |
| 00:43.54 | wizatcomp | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:43.54 | wizatcomp | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:43.54 | wizatcomp | continue; |
| 00:43.54 | wizatcomp | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:44.27 | A_Meteorite | what a simple cheat :| |
| 00:44.57 | lan56 | hold on, let me checkout v2_0branch |
| 00:45.29 | wizatcomp | hmm |
| 00:45.39 | wizatcomp | interesting code in the radarrenderer cxx file |
| 00:46.32 | wizatcomp | he plans on removing wings jump limit |
| 00:46.57 | blast007 | plans? |
| 00:47.01 | blast007 | hehe |
| 00:47.07 | blast007 | that's like a two line change |
| 00:47.31 | trepan | wizatcomp: think it's appropriate to post cheat code here? |
| 00:47.35 | wizatcomp | also disables wide angle |
| 00:47.42 | wizatcomp | trepan: erm... sorry |
| 00:47.43 | wizatcomp | heh |
| 00:47.46 | wizatcomp | though it's pretty simple |
| 00:48.12 | orchid | simple enough any munchkin will try it :) |
| 00:48.15 | trepan | i could post a 100 examples that are equally simple, but yet i don't |
| 00:48.19 | trepan | why might that be? |
| 00:48.33 | wizatcomp | trepan: becasue you're thinking tonight and i'm not |
| 00:48.50 | wizatcomp | orange: not many munchkins have the patience to set up a compiler :/ |
| 00:48.59 | wizatcomp | commenting them |
| 00:50.38 | wizatcomp | well, i guess thankfully bdotson added TODOs with his nick all over the place with what he's planning on doing |
| 00:51.29 | SilentSwan | sounds like a nice guy |
| 00:51.35 | SilentSwan | glad he was so helpful |
| 00:51.54 | SilentSwan | let the banning commence |
| 00:52.16 | wizatcomp | hmm... one thing it looks like he's planning on doing is to disable the drop flag on pause |
| 00:52.26 | wizatcomp | wouldn't that be something simple to check in the server? |
| 00:53.20 | blast007 | not necessarily |
| 00:53.31 | blast007 | would be possible if kills went server-side |
| 00:53.51 | blast007 | but they could just not tell the server they are paused |
| 00:54.32 | wizatcomp | true |
| 00:54.48 | wizatcomp | but then they're just sitting there, not moving, not dying when shot |
| 00:54.59 | wizatcomp | and that's pretty ovbious |
| 00:55.03 | blast007 | which is why if kills went server-side, it would work |
| 00:55.15 | blast007 | if they didn't say they were paused, they would die and drop the flag ;) |
| 00:56.15 | wizatcomp | mmm |
| 00:56.56 | *** join/#bzflag RPG_ (n=G-bus@c-24-15-87-171.hsd1.il.comcast.net) |
| 00:58.01 | blast007 | might have his address ;) |
| 00:58.28 | blast007 | the domain whois gave enough to find it |
| 00:58.42 | RPG_ | www.dnsstuff.com |
| 00:58.58 | blast007 | yup |
| 00:59.40 | wizatcomp | meh |
| 00:59.47 | wizatcomp | last rant, but i think what he says is wrong |
| 00:59.48 | wizatcomp | Well, I took advantage of the open nature of the game to make it easier for people to find the flags they want. Some might call that “cheating,” but I don’t think it is since the authors of the game licensed it under the GNU License. |
| 00:59.54 | wizatcomp | in quotes, from his site |
| 01:00.08 | RPG_ | which site |
| 01:00.09 | blast007 | hah |
| 01:00.23 | wizatcomp | RPG_: a site that has a "cheat" client |
| 01:00.40 | RPG_ | oh- that old 1.10.6 cheat client that showed the flags? |
| 01:00.42 | blast007 | I gave him the link, so no need to repeat it here |
| 01:00.48 | wizatcomp | thanks blast007 |
| 01:00.49 | RPG_ | actually,you didn't |
| 01:00.54 | RPG_ | i found it on the wiki some time ago |
| 01:00.55 | wizatcomp | RPG_: no, this one is based on 2.0.4 |
| 01:00.57 | RPG_ | then it got erased |
| 01:00.58 | RPG_ | oh |
| 01:02.25 | wizatcomp | heh |
| 01:02.44 | wizatcomp | something is messed up in the dev c++ file, as it makes dev c++ crash whenever i try to compile it |
| 01:03.38 | wizatcomp | his dev c++ file, not the official one |
| 01:03.53 | blast007 | heh |
| 01:04.18 | lan56 | phew |
| 01:04.34 | RPG_ | lol@lan |
| 01:06.08 | CIA-2 | BZFlag: 03atupone * 10bzflag/src/game/NetHandler.cxx: Fixing udp not enabled |
| 01:08.02 | *** join/#bzflag wizart (n=wizart@dslb-084-058-134-166.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 01:16.16 | A_Meteorite | because they're not good enough |
| 01:16.21 | SilentSwan | i know... |
| 01:16.27 | SilentSwan | but... it's not hard to get good at it |
| 01:16.31 | A_Meteorite | hehe |
| 01:16.35 | A_Meteorite | they want a simple way to be good |
| 01:16.39 | A_Meteorite | ;( |
| 01:16.39 | SilentSwan | and it's not like you're removed from the game if your score drops below a certain figure |
| 01:16.40 | A_Meteorite | ;) |
| 01:17.21 | purple_cow | i don't think it's because they're frustrated about their skill level |
| 01:17.39 | A_Meteorite | they have low self-esteem |
| 01:17.40 | RPG_ | they're too arrogant about their c++ skill level |
| 01:17.41 | purple_cow | it's just general immaturity - they get a thrill out of making other people angry |
| 01:17.50 | SilentSwan | probably has more to do with a) the "challenge" of creating a cheat client, and b) what purple_cow said |
| 01:17.56 | A_Meteorite | yeah |
| 01:18.01 | SilentSwan | took the words out of my keyboard :) |
| 01:18.08 | A_Meteorite | I think "low self-esteem" fits the bill too ;) |
| 01:18.14 | RPG_ | nah |
| 01:18.20 | RPG_ | they can be happy and hack at the same time |
| 01:18.27 | lan56 | I was going to contribute to the topic but I forgot what I was going to say as I read these msgs :( |
| 01:18.39 | A_Meteorite | to want to make other people angry is basically the same thing :) |
| 01:18.42 | wizatcomp | i'd have to agree with SilentSwan that it's part of the challange |
| 01:18.56 | trepan | challenge? |
| 01:19.00 | SilentSwan | and as for making other people angry, well... i can do that plenty good without cheating :) |
| 01:19.03 | wizatcomp | the *first* thing that i did after getting bzflag to build was to make myself invincible |
| 01:19.10 | A_Meteorite | omg |
| 01:19.14 | purple_cow | i can maybe see "challenge" being an issue in some of the big commercial games |
| 01:19.18 | wizatcomp | trepan: taking code that you've never looked at and modding it |
| 01:19.19 | wizatcomp | heh |
| 01:19.22 | trepan | there's no challenge, unless you're an complete idiot |
| 01:19.27 | purple_cow | but bzflag is ridiculously easy to cheat at |
| 01:19.38 | SilentSwan | all too true :( |
| 01:19.46 | RPG_ | i compiled a CVS client that let me see ST's and CL's |
| 01:19.51 | RPG_ | it was CVS too! |
| 01:19.51 | wizatcomp | A_Meteorite: then i made sure that it was hidden and that no one esle could use it |
| 01:20.09 | wizatcomp | and it's no fun being invincible |
| 01:20.14 | A_Meteorite | I can imagine |
| 01:20.26 | wizatcomp | especially on rabit hunt... and you're the rabit |
| 01:20.44 | A_Meteorite | "hey, lookie here, there's a guy! I'll kill him!" |
| 01:20.49 | A_Meteorite | just not fun |
| 01:22.06 | wizatcomp | though another incentive not to use modded clients for cheating is when you're playing over a lan and the people you're playing with are right next to you, ready to beat the shit out of you |
| 01:22.17 | wizatcomp | if you somehow can't be killed |
| 01:22.23 | A_Meteorite | HEHE!! |
| 01:23.04 | wizatcomp | especially when everyone is bigger than you. and some of them have big rings. |
| 01:23.17 | SilentSwan | ah yes, the law of Proximity to Retaliation |
| 01:23.29 | RPG_ | http://garrettp.homeip.net/cheaterlow.wmv |
| 01:23.30 | RPG_ | user: Guest |
| 01:23.30 | RPG_ | pass: binary221 |
| 01:23.53 | SilentSwan | haha |
| 01:23.53 | RPG_ | awww |
| 01:23.56 | RPG_ | its pretty good two |
| 01:24.01 | RPG_ | a cheater gets caught at a lan tourny |
| 01:24.13 | RPG_ | and his $2000 computer gets smashed on the ground |
| 01:24.20 | SilentSwan | sweet :) |
| 01:24.21 | RPG_ | and they physically throw the guy out |
| 01:24.35 | A_Meteorite | I can't get it to play |
| 01:24.37 | wizatcomp | RPG_: fine, i'll suffer the WMV pain to see it |
| 01:24.39 | A_Meteorite | my mac does nothing |
| 01:24.49 | wizatcomp | A_Meteorite: sadly, you'll need windows media player |
| 01:24.50 | A_Meteorite | I have Windows Media Player 9 installed to... |
| 01:24.56 | SilentSwan | i have no way of playing wmv on this computer |
| 01:24.57 | A_Meteorite | they have a mac version |
| 01:25.13 | A_Meteorite | gah |
| 01:25.14 | SilentSwan | folks should use a *standard* format instead |
| 01:25.21 | A_Meteorite | I'll open WMP. :) |
| 01:25.48 | wizatcomp | http://Guest:binary221@garrettp.homeip.net/cheaterlow.wmv |
| 01:25.49 | wizatcomp | try that |
| 01:26.05 | A_Meteorite | noooo |
| 01:26.14 | A_Meteorite | error: |
| 01:26.20 | wizatcomp | ooooh |
| 01:26.27 | wizatcomp | i think we're collectivly DDoSing RPG_ |
| 01:26.44 | RPG_ | huh? |
| 01:26.57 | DTRemenak | heh, I'm pretty sure I can flood his connection on my own |
| 01:27.01 | wizatcomp | RPG_: are you hosting that off your home connection? |
| 01:27.05 | A_Meteorite | "This file may not play correctly because it was compressed by using a codec that is not supported." |
| 01:27.06 | RPG_ | yeah |
| 01:27.08 | RPG_ | off this machine |
| 01:27.14 | wizatcomp | RPG_: it's loading realllly slow |
| 01:27.28 | A_Meteorite | apparently the mac windows media doesn't like wmv files :| |
| 01:27.30 | wizatcomp | 10Kbs |
| 01:27.37 | SilentSwan | need to find a way to convert wmv files to a standard open format |
| 01:27.39 | wizatcomp | A_Meteorite: i'll convert it |
| 01:27.46 | A_Meteorite | WHAT! |
| 01:27.49 | A_Meteorite | I clicked OK |
| 01:27.51 | wizatcomp | RPG_: where did you get the video from? |
| 01:27.52 | A_Meteorite | and now it's loading |
| 01:27.55 | RPG_ | internet |
| 01:27.57 | SilentSwan | wizatcomp convert with what? |
| 01:27.58 | RPG_ | i keep funny videos i find |
| 01:28.06 | RPG_ | i don't know where it came from |
| 01:28.06 | A_Meteorite | the mac wmp is messed up ;) |
| 01:28.14 | RPG_ | search for the filename on BZBB |
| 01:28.14 | wizatcomp | SilentSwan: i'm running windows now, so i have conversion software |
| 01:28.16 | RPG_ | i think it was there |
| 01:28.22 | SilentSwan | oh |
| 01:28.23 | A_Meteorite | *% |
| 01:28.27 | A_Meteorite | 8% |
| 01:28.33 | A_Meteorite | *whistles* |
| 01:28.52 | SilentSwan | DTRemenak it won't work on amd64 |
| 01:28.55 | wizatcomp | DTRemenak: there's no way you're playing it just fine |
| 01:29.04 | wizatcomp | you can't stream it that fast |
| 01:29.06 | wizatcomp | :/ |
| 01:29.06 | DTRemenak | SilentSwan, it will, if you use a 32-bit binary |
| 01:29.12 | SilentSwan | yes i know |
| 01:29.15 | SilentSwan | but... |
| 01:29.15 | DTRemenak | wizatcomp, it's mostly finished |
| 01:29.18 | SilentSwan | i shouldn't have to :P |
| 01:29.18 | wizatcomp | oh |
| 01:29.19 | wizatcomp | ok |
| 01:29.24 | SilentSwan | <- stubborn |
| 01:29.26 | A_Meteorite | 26% |
| 01:29.32 | DTRemenak | linux can play partly-downloaded files ya know, none of that file-open junk windows gives |
| 01:29.40 | A_Meteorite | hehe |
| 01:29.40 | wizatcomp | DTRemenak: vlc can too |
| 01:29.53 | wizatcomp | just it needs enough of a buffer to play it through w/o having to stop halfway thorugh |
| 01:30.06 | A_Meteorite | 50% buffered |
| 01:30.08 | CIA-2 | BZFlag: 03trepan 07v2_0branch * 10bzflag/src/bzflag/playing.cxx: logic fix for "flag effect vs. colorblindess" |
| 01:30.22 | trepan | heh, s/flag/spawn |
| 01:30.37 | trepan | more coffee, less booze |
| 01:31.00 | SilentSwan | brb - getting *BUFFERING...........* coffee |
| 01:31.13 | wizatcomp | bzflag.wizatcomputer.com/cheaterlow.wmv |
| 01:31.18 | wizatcomp | on a slightly faster connection :) |
| 01:32.12 | wizatcomp | or it should be at least |
| 01:32.19 | *** join/#bzflag SC (n=SportChi@ca-redbch-cuda1-c3b-a-40.stmnca.adelphia.net) |
| 01:33.12 | RPG_ | http://bzflag.wizatcomputer.com/cheaterlow.wmv |
| 01:33.12 | A_Meteorite | bbl |
| 01:33.16 | RPG_ | for all ya'll who can't copy and paste |
| 01:33.20 | A_Meteorite | lol |
| 01:33.27 | A_Meteorite | I got it, but I'll be back later... |
| 01:33.39 | A_Meteorite | gotta take a PC break :P |
| 01:34.08 | *** part/#bzflag RPG_ (n=G-bus@c-24-15-87-171.hsd1.il.comcast.net) |
| 01:35.05 | wizatcomp | hahaha |
| 01:35.07 | wizatcomp | that's awsome |
| 01:35.23 | wizatcomp | that truly deserves the title "pwnt" |
| 01:40.47 | lan56 | how come for both v2_0branch and HEAD bzfs compiles successfully regardless of BanCommands.cxx being included? |
| 01:42.05 | *** join/#bzflag Lyn (n=183e6605@webchat.bzflag.bz) |
| 01:43.32 | trepan | lan56: the command objects register themselves, no direct deps |
| 01:43.47 | lan56 | ahh I see |
| 01:43.57 | A_Meteorite | LOL! I just saw the movie! |
| 01:44.15 | A_Meteorite | Pretty funny! |
| 01:45.05 | *** join/#bzflag Lodyev (n=181ee37d@webchat.bzflag.bz) |
| 01:45.08 | CIA-2 | BZFlag: 03lan56 07v2_0branch * 10bzflag/src/bzadmin/CursesMenu.cxx: fix bzadmin (curses) complaints with sstream |
| 01:45.17 | Lodyev | hey map makin people! |
| 01:45.27 | Lodyev | i got a question for you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 01:45.35 | A_Meteorite | yes? |
| 01:45.35 | trepan | tone it down freak show |
| 01:45.36 | lan56 | v2_0branch builds fine now |
| 01:45.40 | Lodyev | ol |
| 01:45.41 | Lodyev | lol |
| 01:45.43 | Lodyev | you again |
| 01:45.51 | A_Meteorite | who? |
| 01:46.01 | Lodyev | okay, how do you put flags on map |
| 01:46.09 | A_Meteorite | simple |
| 01:46.09 | Lodyev | like permanent |
| 01:46.14 | Lodyev | yea? |
| 01:46.23 | A_Meteorite | +f flagID{#ofFlags} |
| 01:46.23 | Lodyev | do tell =-) |
| 01:46.28 | Lodyev | omfg! |
| 01:46.30 | A_Meteorite | so for 10 WG flags |
| 01:46.33 | Lodyev | on the map! |
| 01:46.36 | A_Meteorite | +f WG{10} |
| 01:46.37 | Lodyev | dude! |
| 01:46.41 | Lodyev | the map! |
| 01:46.44 | Lodyev | not the config |
| 01:46.48 | A_Meteorite | oh |
| 01:46.52 | A_Meteorite | zoness |
| 01:47.03 | Lodyev | hence the : "map making people" |
| 01:47.06 | Lodyev | pardon? |
| 01:47.07 | A_Meteorite | lol |
| 01:47.13 | trepan | flags work in the map "options" block |
| 01:47.13 | A_Meteorite | you need to use zones |
| 01:47.17 | Lodyev | okay |
| 01:47.20 | Lodyev | and... |
| 01:47.21 | A_Meteorite | thank you trepan |
| 01:47.23 | Lodyev | how? |
| 01:47.31 | trepan | 2.0.4- zones will only set drop spots, not add flags |
| 01:47.46 | A_Meteorite | yes, you still need to add flags like I showed you |
| 01:47.53 | trepan | you need the new zone 'zoneflag' tag for fixed flag spawns |
| 01:47.58 | Lodyev | like a certain flag |
| 01:48.12 | trepan | ... and then you need not add flags with +f or +/-s |
| 01:48.26 | Lodyev | oaky |
| 01:48.31 | Lodyev | where i get this? |
| 01:48.52 | A_Meteorite | read this, your IQ will go up ;) |
| 01:48.53 | A_Meteorite | http://bzflag.org/wiki/MapMaking |
| 01:49.06 | A_Meteorite | zone |
| 01:49.06 | A_Meteorite | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:49.06 | A_Meteorite | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:49.06 | A_Meteorite | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:49.06 | A_Meteorite | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:49.07 | A_Meteorite | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:49.09 | A_Meteorite | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:49.11 | A_Meteorite | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:49.13 | A_Meteorite | end |
| 01:50.17 | Lodyev | o i gotta do this manually? |
| 01:50.18 | Lodyev | damn |
| 01:50.22 | A_Meteorite | yes |
| 01:50.37 | A_Meteorite | unless this is in bzedit32 which I highly doubt |
| 01:50.39 | Lodyev | so how i find positon |
| 01:50.44 | trepan | # attach a flag to this zone (always spawn in this zone) |
| 01:50.45 | trepan | zoneflag GM 3 # type, count (type can be a team flag, ex: R*) |
| 01:50.45 | lan56 | its not IIRC |
| 01:50.49 | trepan | (from the CVS man page) |
| 01:50.50 | Lodyev | i have cd C:\Program Files\bzflag2.0.5b3\edit32 |
| 01:50.53 | Lodyev | i have |
| 01:50.54 | Lodyev | that |
| 01:50.55 | Lodyev | lol |
| 01:51.17 | Lodyev | edit32 |
| 01:51.21 | Lodyev | i have it |
| 01:51.43 | Lodyev | hello? |
| 01:51.45 | A_Meteorite | what you do is open that in notepad and add zones manually |
| 01:51.51 | A_Meteorite | your map this is |
| 01:51.54 | A_Meteorite | *that |
| 01:53.04 | Lodyev | okay |
| 01:55.35 | Lodyev | ummm |
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| 01:55.41 | Lodyev | how i find position i want |
| 01:56.00 | lan56 | bzedit32 can provide you with positions |
| 01:56.13 | lan56 | but you will have to use boxes or something to see where each position is |
| 01:56.31 | lan56 | as zones aren't in bzedit32 IIRC |
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| 01:56.57 | A_Meteorite | then delete the box and manually add the zone in |
| 01:56.58 | Lodyev | okay |
| 01:56.59 | A_Meteorite | :) |
| 01:57.02 | Lodyev | so it says |
| 01:57.06 | Lodyev | 0.00.00.0 |
| 01:57.09 | Lodyev | that it |
| 01:57.11 | Lodyev | x |
| 01:57.12 | Lodyev | y |
| 01:57.13 | Lodyev | z |
| 01:57.15 | Lodyev | and? |
| 01:57.34 | lan56 | position 0.0 0.0 0.0 |
| 01:57.37 | lan56 | those are periods |
| 01:57.37 | A_Meteorite | the example is: position 0.0 0.0 0.0 |
| 01:57.48 | Lodyev | i know |
| 01:57.59 | Lodyev | so if i wanted 7x3y and 4 z |
| 01:58.02 | Lodyev | id say |
| 01:58.10 | A_Meteorite | position 7 3 4 |
| 01:58.14 | Lodyev | okay |
| 01:58.19 | Lodyev | thanks =) |
| 01:58.25 | Lodyev | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:58.28 | Lodyev | btw |
| 01:58.29 | A_Meteorite | welcome |
| 01:58.38 | Lodyev | go to my server, my bros there |
| 01:58.41 | Lodyev | its |
| 01:58.42 | Lodyev | uhh |
| 01:58.49 | Lodyev | super sky war |
| 01:58.51 | Lodyev | or summit |
| 01:58.55 | A_Meteorite | I've never met you. :| |
| 01:59.00 | Lodyev | yea |
| 01:59.02 | A_Meteorite | who's your bro? |
| 01:59.10 | Lodyev | we went through this |
| 01:59.12 | Lodyev | before |
| 01:59.16 | A_Meteorite | we did? |
| 01:59.18 | Lodyev | yea |
| 01:59.18 | A_Meteorite | umm |
| 01:59.19 | Lodyev | member? |
| 01:59.22 | A_Meteorite | no |
| 01:59.25 | Lodyev | im no guts no glory> |
| 01:59.30 | A_Meteorite | oh, yeah! |
| 01:59.35 | Lodyev | pfft |
| 01:59.38 | A_Meteorite | you should keep using the same name |
| 01:59.42 | Lodyev | i know haha |
| 01:59.43 | A_Meteorite | it's confusing me |
| 01:59.49 | Lodyev | this is faster typeing though |
| 02:00.08 | A_Meteorite | ok, I'll go to your server if it will let me in.. |
| 02:00.15 | A_Meteorite | sometimes it won't let me join |
| 02:00.18 | A_Meteorite | cya there |
| 02:00.57 | Lodyev | it will |
| 02:01.04 | Lodyev | i fixed it up |
| 02:02.38 | Lodyev | so when i get to this |
| 02:02.39 | Lodyev | flag GM SW good bad # where flag may spawn |
| 02:02.44 | Lodyev | whats the format? |
| 02:03.09 | lan56 | flag FLAGNAMES |
| 02:03.24 | lan56 | good & bad are obvious keywords |
| 02:03.27 | Lodyev | yea |
| 02:04.13 | Lodyev | and the # of flags? |
| 02:05.33 | Lodyev | ???? |
| 02:05.35 | Lodyev | lan |
| 02:05.36 | lan56 | I am unsure how that is done, however, someone else here most likely knows |
| 02:05.37 | Lodyev | ? |
| 02:05.42 | Lodyev | okie |
| 02:06.00 | lan56 | I would guess perhaps: flag ID{#} |
| 02:06.03 | lan56 | but that is only a guess |
| 02:09.36 | CIA-2 | BZFlag: 03lan56 * 10bzflag/README.DEVC++: update certain outdated items |
| 02:10.20 | wizatcomp | it's amazing how many people will play on a server that's almost running the defaults |
| 02:10.29 | Lodyev | ea |
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| 02:18.09 | NoGutsNoGlory | people |
| 02:18.18 | NoGutsNoGlory | hi |
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| 02:43.53 | NoGutsNoGlory | a meteor |
| 02:43.58 | NoGutsNoGlory | scuse me |
| 02:44.00 | A_Meteorite | yes? |
| 02:44.28 | NoGutsNoGlory | can ye send me the zone thing again |
| 02:44.31 | A_Meteorite | sure |
| 02:44.37 | NoGutsNoGlory | i lost it =( |
| 02:44.53 | A_Meteorite | zone |
| 02:44.53 | A_Meteorite | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:44.53 | A_Meteorite | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:44.53 | A_Meteorite | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:44.53 | A_Meteorite | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:44.56 | A_Meteorite | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:44.58 | A_Meteorite | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:45.00 | A_Meteorite | <PROTECTED> |
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| 02:47.37 | brlcad | a house decoration I will probably measure all others by now.. |
| 02:48.20 | NoGutsNoGlory | thanls |
| 02:48.24 | A_Meteorite | welcome |
| 02:48.58 | brlcad | http://media.putfile.com/WizardsofWinter-SM |
| 02:51.43 | NoGutsNoGlory | meteor |
| 02:51.46 | NoGutsNoGlory | at this part |
| 02:51.48 | NoGutsNoGlory | flag GM SW good bad # where flag may spawn |
| 02:51.54 | NoGutsNoGlory | what is the exact format |
| 02:52.06 | A_Meteorite | flag WG |
| 02:52.11 | A_Meteorite | for all WG flags |
| 02:52.15 | NoGutsNoGlory | flag GM {4}? |
| 02:52.15 | A_Meteorite | and: |
| 02:52.18 | A_Meteorite | no |
| 02:52.23 | A_Meteorite | that is for +f |
| 02:52.25 | NoGutsNoGlory | hmm? |
| 02:52.30 | A_Meteorite | just the name of the flag |
| 02:52.33 | NoGutsNoGlory | so all of them will be in there? |
| 02:52.35 | A_Meteorite | it will be placed there |
| 02:52.37 | A_Meteorite | yes |
| 02:52.39 | NoGutsNoGlory | 1? |
| 02:52.42 | NoGutsNoGlory | okie |
| 02:52.51 | A_Meteorite | it will split it up between zones |
| 02:52.57 | A_Meteorite | (at least it should...) |
| 02:53.20 | A_Meteorite | just make sure you specify enough flags to split up between multiple zones with +f |
| 02:54.33 | wizatcomp | hmm... |
| 02:54.44 | wizatcomp | is there a way to change the message that's sent every 15 mintues? |
| 02:54.48 | A_Meteorite | yes |
| 02:55.05 | A_Meteorite | use -admsg |
| 02:55.16 | A_Meteorite | -admsg "This is shown every 15mins" |
| 02:55.18 | wizatcomp | er, while the server is running |
| 02:55.23 | A_Meteorite | no |
| 02:55.31 | wizatcomp | darn |
| 02:55.32 | A_Meteorite | there is no way to do that :P |
| 02:55.58 | wizatcomp | wanted to make it so that it showed that the server was shutting down at a certian time |
| 02:55.59 | blast007 | brlcad: yeah, that video is awesome.. |
| 02:56.30 | trepan | A_Meteorite: not entirely true |
| 02:56.51 | A_Meteorite | well, the *only* other thing I can think of is to edit your config |
| 02:56.53 | A_Meteorite | and /reload |
| 02:57.01 | A_Meteorite | but will that even work? |
| 02:57.01 | blast007 | a plugin can change it iirc |
| 02:57.09 | blast007 | no, a /reload won't |
| 02:57.13 | A_Meteorite | thought so |
| 02:57.13 | trepan | -admsg and -srvmsg can use embedded bzdb server vars \{varname} |
| 02:57.14 | blast007 | that does the database files |
| 02:57.25 | blast007 | trepan: ah, cool |
| 02:57.38 | A_Meteorite | yeah, but you need a plugin |
| 02:57.47 | A_Meteorite | which someone has yet to make :P |
| 02:57.52 | wizatcomp | so it's not possible to do that midgame |
| 02:57.53 | wizatcomp | pl |
| 02:57.56 | wizatcomp | *ok |
| 02:57.59 | blast007 | no, I don't think that does |
| 02:58.03 | wizatcomp | well, i'll just wait until there are a few people |
| 02:58.05 | wizatcomp | then shut er down |
| 02:58.15 | blast007 | can you /set non existant variables? |
| 02:58.23 | A_Meteorite | yes... |
| 02:58.32 | brlcad | lan56: what was the error before you moved the header? |
| 02:58.34 | A_Meteorite | at least in 2.0.2 you can |
| 02:58.41 | A_Meteorite | never tried 2.0.4 |
| 02:58.51 | brlcad | implies the interface header needs sstream but I don't see why it would |
| 02:59.04 | A_Meteorite | nope, /set fails on 2.0.5 |
| 02:59.07 | lan56 | let me recreate it for you and copy and paste here |
| 02:59.07 | lan56 | hold |
| 02:59.12 | A_Meteorite | with a nonexistant variable |
| 02:59.21 | blast007 | A_Meteorite: okay, so a plugin would be needed then ;) |
| 02:59.39 | A_Meteorite | wait |
| 02:59.51 | A_Meteorite | what's the var name for srvmsg and admsg? |
| 02:59.57 | A_Meteorite | I just did: |
| 03:00.03 | A_Meteorite | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:00.15 | A_Meteorite | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:01.35 | lan56 | brlcad, n file included from C:/Dev-Cpp/Bin/../lib/gcc/mingw32/3.4.2/../../../../include/c++/3.4.2/sstream:642, |
| 03:01.35 | lan56 | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:01.35 | lan56 | C:/Dev-Cpp/Bin/../lib/gcc/mingw32/3.4.2/../../../../include/c++/3.4.2/bits/sstream.tcc: In member function `virtual typename std::basic_stringbuf<_CharT, _Traits, _Alloc>::int_type std::basic_stringbuf<_CharT, _Traits, _Alloc>::overflow(typename _Traits::int_type)': |
| 03:01.36 | lan56 | C:/Dev-Cpp/Bin/../lib/gcc/mingw32/3.4.2/../../../../include/c++/3.4.2/bits/sstream.tcc:102: error: expected unqualified-id before '(' token |
| 03:01.39 | lan56 | C:/Dev-Cpp/Bin/../lib/gcc/mingw32/3.4.2/../../../../include/c++/3.4.2/bits/sstream.tcc:104: error: expected unqualified-id before '(' token |
| 03:01.45 | lan56 | grr I should have used pastebin.cx |
| 03:02.01 | A_Meteorite | I have to get going..... |
| 03:02.11 | brlcad | lan56: what's line 102 in sstream.tcc ? |
| 03:02.25 | lan56 | const __size_type __opt_len = std::max(__size_type(2 * __capacity), |
| 03:02.26 | A_Meteorite | NoGutsNoGlory: I'm sure others can help you too while I'm gone. :) |
| 03:02.27 | lan56 | bingo |
| 03:02.38 | A_Meteorite | Cya all, g'night |
| 03:02.41 | trepan | blast007: if you're crafty, you'll figure out a way around it :) |
| 03:02.44 | lan56 | gnight |
| 03:03.03 | lan56 | brlcad, is there a better solution? |
| 03:03.06 | brlcad | hrm |
| 03:04.08 | brlcad | lan56: yeah, I think so.. it fails if common.h is included before it because common.h defines a min() and max() template function if configure determined you don't have a min/max |
| 03:04.12 | brlcad | in your case, you don't run configure |
| 03:04.19 | lan56 | no |
| 03:04.29 | lan56 | but config.h has those vars defined |
| 03:04.37 | brlcad | there's probably a #define that can be tossed into your config.h |
| 03:04.40 | lan56 | #define NOMINMAX 1 |
| 03:04.45 | lan56 | oh wait |
| 03:04.57 | lan56 | I think thats the problem now that I see it? |
| 03:05.14 | lan56 | no that doesnt work |
| 03:05.26 | lan56 | with or without that definition, same error |
| 03:05.34 | brlcad | do you have HAVE_STD__MIN and HAVE_STD__MAX defined? |
| 03:05.43 | brlcad | those are the two it's looking for |
| 03:05.48 | lan56 | yes |
| 03:05.53 | lan56 | should I take them out? |
| 03:05.59 | brlcad | hmm |
| 03:06.01 | lan56 | well I guess just try is the answer :) |
| 03:06.17 | brlcad | no, you do have them .. so it should be set |
| 03:06.28 | brlcad | if you remove them, you'll probably get a different error |
| 03:06.38 | lan56 | indeed, and a lot more too :) |
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| 03:08.57 | brlcad | it's got to be something else common.h related, #define related |
| 03:09.10 | lan56 | most likely yes |
| 03:12.48 | brlcad | it could be a busted header issue.. |
| 03:13.23 | lan56 | quite possibly, tho I am completley up to date with mingw32 package and I havent touched the std library |
| 03:13.24 | brlcad | try putting <sstream> before <map> in the .h but after common.h |
| 03:13.30 | lan56 | ok |
| 03:14.03 | brlcad | and of course remove/comment out <sstream> from the .cxx |
| 03:14.16 | lan56 | in what header did you mean the first comment? |
| 03:14.26 | brlcad | CursesMenu.h |
| 03:14.50 | DTRemenak | min(a,b) and max(a,b) are macros defined in something from windows.h iirc. you probably need to undefine them |
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| 03:15.14 | DTRemenak | or include <limits> before windows.h |
| 03:15.30 | brlcad | they should be per the NOMINMAX in common.h |
| 03:15.41 | lan56 | well brlcad's advice worked, which advice do I take now? |
| 03:16.14 | DTRemenak | if what he told you to do worked, then he is probably right ;) |
| 03:16.17 | brlcad | hmm, if that worked, I'd declare them headers busted |
| 03:16.26 | lan56 | ok |
| 03:16.33 | lan56 | thanks to both of you |
| 03:16.45 | DTRemenak | course brlcad is usually right anyhow :) |
| 03:16.51 | brlcad | but leave it in the .h for now with a comment .. apparently can't include map or string or one of the stl headers before sstream |
| 03:16.55 | brlcad | pfft |
| 03:17.15 | lan56 | should I revert the changes to CursesMenu.cxx and commit the .h ones? |
| 03:17.50 | brlcad | yeah, that's a bit more manageable, just leave a comment in the .h with the #include that it needs to be before the other stl headers |
| 03:18.24 | lan56 | should I add a #ifdef _DEVCPP or no? |
| 03:18.38 | brlcad | no |
| 03:18.44 | brlcad | one more thing to try, though.. |
| 03:18.54 | lan56 | sure sock it to me |
| 03:18.56 | brlcad | try putting the #include after <vector> |
| 03:19.50 | lan56 | that works too |
| 03:19.59 | brlcad | ooh, the plot thickens |
| 03:20.58 | brlcad | before PlayerInfo.h ? |
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| 03:21.16 | lan56 | after curses_wrapper.h? |
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| 03:21.24 | brlcad | right |
| 03:21.28 | Inferno285 | hi yalls |
| 03:21.33 | lan56 | no |
| 03:21.38 | lan56 | Inferno285, hey |
| 03:21.45 | dujavi_ | hey, dude |
| 03:21.50 | lan56 | I mean no as in not working |
| 03:21.56 | dujavi_ | My hair is fancier |
| 03:21.58 | lan56 | same errors |
| 03:22.10 | brlcad | lan56: great, move it up before each of the headers until it works |
| 03:22.12 | Inferno285 | dujavi, DUDE!!!! |
| 03:22.13 | dujavi_ | Big errors |
| 03:22.14 | brlcad | where does it work? |
| 03:22.24 | Inferno285 | my hair is way cooler! |
| 03:22.38 | lan56 | before curses_wrapper.h, brlcad |
| 03:22.43 | dujavi_ | I just have to know the exact width |
| 03:23.15 | Inferno285 | like a centered mohock, with all that spicy color. 4", why? |
| 03:23.33 | brlcad | interesting.. it fails after the curses wrapper.. |
| 03:23.36 | dujavi_ | I mean per strand, or does it vary |
| 03:23.46 | lan56 | right |
| 03:24.16 | dujavi_ | Inferno285, It doesn't meet the standards |
| 03:24.38 | brlcad | curses has all sorts of horribly common word macros that might be causing the problem |
| 03:24.39 | Inferno285 | WTH do you know about standards! |
| 03:24.55 | brlcad | clear and erase in particular |
| 03:25.04 | lan56 | I see |
| 03:25.24 | dujavi_ | Argument done~ |
| 03:25.40 | Inferno285 | :S |
| 03:25.41 | brlcad | you're using pdcurses? |
| 03:25.45 | lan56 | yes |
| 03:26.11 | brlcad | HAVE_NCURSES_H and HAVE_CURSES_H are not set in your config.h? |
| 03:26.28 | Inferno285 | Ian56, what OS? |
| 03:26.39 | lan56 | brlcad, no |
| 03:26.42 | lan56 | Inferno285, winxp |
| 03:26.56 | lan56 | brlcad, should I set them |
| 03:27.09 | Inferno285 | awww, I was trying to compile on solaris...I kinda gave up though :( |
| 03:27.20 | DTRemenak | Inferno285, what errors were you getting on solaris? |
| 03:27.34 | brlcad | lan56: no |
| 03:27.39 | lan56 | ok |
| 03:27.45 | brlcad | what aobut HAVE_XCURSES_H ? |
| 03:27.50 | DTRemenak | 2.0.4 should compile cleanly with gcc on solaris |
| 03:27.50 | lan56 | no |
| 03:27.52 | blast007 | he didn't have access to install libraries on his solaris thin-client, iirc |
| 03:28.13 | DTRemenak | stick them in your home directory and tell configure to look there for them |
| 03:28.37 | blast007 | he tried :) |
| 03:28.45 | Inferno285 | DTRemenak, I had ELFCLASS errors and sorts, but I figured it'd be too slow anyway. So the heck with it |
| 03:28.48 | DTRemenak | WFM :) |
| 03:28.56 | DTRemenak | Inferno285, hrm |
| 03:29.11 | DTRemenak | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:29.21 | brlcad | hm, so that looks reasonable enough .. the problem does look like erase/clear getting undefined/reset |
| 03:29.30 | Inferno285 | blast007, I had full library install access and everything, just ELF errors |
| 03:29.38 | blast007 | k |
| 03:29.40 | brlcad | not sure what can be easily done about it without looking at the pdcurses header |
| 03:29.40 | lan56 | brlcad, I see |
| 03:29.56 | lan56 | is it something I could look for? is it easy enough to describe? |
| 03:30.07 | brlcad | let's just see if it's the problem first |
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| 03:30.19 | lan56 | sure |
| 03:30.21 | brlcad | move the .h after curses_wrapper.h |
| 03:30.38 | lan56 | as in sstream? |
| 03:30.58 | brlcad | then in curses_wrapper.h, comment out the clear and erase sections after "stop ugly macros from polluting our namespace" |
| 03:31.13 | brlcad | right, move sstream after the curses_wrapper.h include |
| 03:31.16 | lan56 | ok |
| 03:31.33 | DTRemenak | Inferno285, do you remember what the errors were? mine works: "bzflag: ELF 32-bit MSB executable, SPARC, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), not stripped" |
| 03:32.13 | lan56 | brlcad, same errors + a few more |
| 03:32.31 | lan56 | thought the extra ones are unrelated to sstream |
| 03:32.36 | lan56 | more of CursesMenu stuff |
| 03:32.46 | brlcad | hmm.. it may be a lose lose |
| 03:32.56 | Inferno285 | DTRemenak, I have libs that are 64 with sub libs 32. It's all wakked |
| 03:33.05 | DTRemenak | ahh |
| 03:33.07 | DTRemenak | fun |
| 03:33.35 | brlcad | oh, i wonder if it's your curses.h |
| 03:33.58 | brlcad | add a #include <sstream> before the #ifdef HAVE_XCURSES_H line |
| 03:34.05 | lan56 | http://pastebin.ca/32463 is the other errors btw |
| 03:34.05 | brlcad | a little bit above |
| 03:34.06 | lan56 | ok |
| 03:34.48 | lan56 | should I remove the sstream from CursesMenu.h? |
| 03:34.49 | Inferno285 | Ian56, this stuff is extreme complicated. for me that is. |
| 03:35.17 | brlcad | lan56: nah |
| 03:35.23 | lan56 | Inferno285, it is a bit complicated in general. trying to fix a bug |
| 03:36.03 | lan56 | brlcad, the original errors regarding sstream are gone but the ones in that pastebin.ca link are still there |
| 03:37.02 | brlcad | yeah, uncomment the other bit in curses_wrapper.h |
| 03:37.07 | brlcad | for erase/clera |
| 03:37.40 | lan56 | that works |
| 03:38.02 | brlcad | and if you move it after the #include <curses.h> i suspect it fails? |
| 03:38.31 | lan56 | yes very much |
| 03:38.40 | lan56 | 227 new errors |
| 03:38.48 | brlcad | great, so something in there is getting defined |
| 03:38.59 | brlcad | can you paste your curses.h |
| 03:39.03 | lan56 | sure |
| 03:40.07 | lan56 | http://pastebin.ca/32466 |
| 03:43.05 | brlcad | ugh |
| 03:43.10 | brlcad | they define bool outright |
| 03:43.51 | lan56 | should I have uploaded the file itself instead of pasting so it is easier to put into the ide? |
| 03:44.02 | brlcad | no, it's fine |
| 03:44.05 | lan56 | selecting all on that page might include the other stuff |
| 03:44.06 | lan56 | ok |
| 03:45.12 | brlcad | bingo |
| 03:45.19 | brlcad | they have a #define min/max |
| 03:45.41 | brlcad | after the #include <curses.h> add #undef min and #undef max |
| 03:45.52 | lan56 | back in curses_wrapper.h? |
| 03:45.55 | purple_cow | pdcurses? |
| 03:45.56 | brlcad | yep |
| 03:46.00 | lan56 | purple_cow, yes |
| 03:46.16 | brlcad | public domain curses, for windows |
| 03:47.24 | lan56 | where do I move the sstream to? |
| 03:47.35 | brlcad | i suspect/hope that fixes the problem |
| 03:47.42 | brlcad | so it shouldn't matter |
| 03:47.50 | brlcad | put it after the curses.h for starters after theundef's |
| 03:48.03 | lan56 | doesnt work |
| 03:48.03 | brlcad | not before |
| 03:48.07 | brlcad | oh? |
| 03:48.20 | lan56 | same 227 errors |
| 03:48.26 | lan56 | should I paste the errorS? |
| 03:48.31 | brlcad | you sure you put the undef in the right place? |
| 03:48.55 | brlcad | not the errors, paste your curses_wrapper.h section |
| 03:49.15 | lan56 | ok |
| 03:50.04 | lan56 | http://pastebin.ca/32467 |
| 03:50.10 | lan56 | that is from lines 73-92 |
| 03:50.16 | lan56 | that is all I have touched in that file |
| 03:50.36 | lan56 | the erase/clear bit is uncommented |
| 03:52.10 | CIA-2 | BZFlag: 03brlcad * 10bzflag/src/bzadmin/curses_wrapper.h: protect from curses.h defining a min/max macro |
| 03:52.29 | brlcad | hmm |
| 03:52.36 | brlcad | that looks good |
| 03:52.53 | lan56 | let me see if that fixes it |
| 03:53.00 | brlcad | shouldn't |
| 03:53.05 | brlcad | pretty much did the same thing |
| 03:53.07 | lan56 | ok then nm, |
| 03:56.03 | brlcad | out on a limb, but lesse if it's bool |
| 03:56.15 | lan56 | sure what should I do? |
| 03:56.22 | brlcad | before the curses.h block add #define bool boolean |
| 03:56.28 | brlcad | after the block #undef bool |
| 03:57.18 | lan56 | leave the min/max undefs +sstream after the block? |
| 03:57.24 | brlcad | yeah |
| 03:59.12 | lan56 | well, that works, however, I was an idiot and mistyped the #undef for min, which I then pasted to do for max, and I corrected those two, and that works too |
| 03:59.18 | lan56 | I apologize for my mistake |
| 04:00.27 | lan56 | I realised the typo now. I apologize again |
| 04:06.21 | brlcad | heh, no big deal |
| 04:06.37 | brlcad | so if you remove the bool with the typo fixed, does it work? |
| 04:06.40 | lan56 | well I feel bad, I could have saved you some mental work and time if I paid better attention |
| 04:06.42 | lan56 | yes |
| 04:06.52 | brlcad | cool, then |
| 04:07.02 | brlcad | so now sstream can go back to the .cxx where it was |
| 04:07.24 | lan56 | as in cursesmenu.cxx without the devcpp macro? |
| 04:07.31 | brlcad | right |
| 04:07.43 | brlcad | and after the interface header |
| 04:08.03 | lan56 | which interface header? |
| 04:08.19 | brlcad | the #include cursesmenu.h in cursesmenu.cxx |
| 04:08.28 | lan56 | ahh right |
| 04:08.34 | lan56 | ok |
| 04:08.50 | brlcad | and cursesmenu.h shouldn't need to be modified at all then |
| 04:09.25 | lan56 | right I undid the changes to both files and it still works a-ok |
| 04:12.08 | brlcad | try with the update to curses_wrapper.h that I made |
| 04:12.18 | lan56 | ok |
| 04:14.19 | lan56 | bzadmin can build with them |
| 04:14.29 | BenUrban | ah |
| 04:14.41 | brlcad | great |
| 04:14.56 | lan56 | brlcad: it works still |
| 04:28.52 | CIA-2 | BZFlag: 03lan56 * 10bzflag/Dev-C++/bzflag.rc: use the icon in /win32/ |
| 04:30.20 | lan56 | how would I go about removing the bzflag.ico in /dev-cpp/? I tried the "remove" selection in tortoise cvs right click, but it says to use cvs commit to remove it permanently. I am unsure what this means. |
| 04:30.49 | BenUrban | lan56: you need to commit your changes |
| 04:31.25 | lan56 | ahh I see it now. thank you. |
| 04:31.28 | lan56 | I wasnt thinking |
| 04:33.13 | CIA-2 | BZFlag: 03lan56 * 10bzflag/Dev-C++/bzflag.ico: remove, use the one in /win32/ |
| 04:33.30 | BenUrban | i guess he didn't like that |
| 04:33.31 | BenUrban | lol |
| 04:44.01 | CIA-2 | BZFlag: 03trepan 07v2_0branch * 10bzflag/src/bzflag/HUDRenderer.cxx: allow tank labels while noGUI is enabled |
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| 05:01.49 | Legoguy | speaking of labels, is it yet possible to have labels on while playing? |
| 05:01.54 | Legoguy | (not just observer) |
| 05:02.26 | Legoguy | and they would, for ex. disappear when the person has cloak or st |
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| 06:59.08 | cosmos | http://www.zombietime.com/breasts_not_bombs/ |
| 07:00.20 | trepan | cosmos: why did you think it a good idea to post that here? |
| 07:10.25 | wizatmac | that link is in no way safe for anyone's eyes |
| 07:10.33 | wizatmac | :/ |
| 07:11.10 | Aribeth | oh derie, we are in trouble arn't we |
| 07:12.45 | Aribeth | ouch |
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| 07:19.41 | SilverFox | what the heck does it mean when you get this error after running a netstat? |
| 07:19.44 | SilverFox | "warning, got bogus tcp line." |
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| 08:05.51 | LePoulpe303 | hi all |
| 08:06.01 | lan56 | bonjour |
| 08:06.06 | lan56 | I feel is appropriate |
| 08:15.31 | LePoulpe303 | lan56 : perfectly thnaks :D |
| 08:15.46 | lan56 | no problem |
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| 12:30.21 | orchid | ciao Tupone |
| 12:41.59 | Tupone | ciao orchid |
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| 12:42.59 | bz_mib | moin, somebody at home? |
| 12:43.37 | bz_mib | no |
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| 13:24.25 | orchid | Tupone: yep! |
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| 14:06.36 | learner | grr |
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| 14:08.37 | brlcad | that's better |
| 14:09.22 | _Manu_ | :) |
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| 14:16.02 | Tupone | brlcad: hi |
| 14:20.46 | _Manu_ | heh |
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| 14:23.40 | Mr_Molez | yo |
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| 15:07.01 | [pino] | hi guys |
| 15:07.13 | Saturos | Hi. |
| 15:07.23 | [pino] | da sieht man ja viele bekannte |
| 15:07.26 | Saturos | It's that easy. :) |
| 15:07.31 | [pino] | wie ändere ich meinen namen |
| 15:07.32 | Saturos | Komm mal nach #bzleague |
| 15:08.45 | [pino] | bin shcon |
| 15:13.29 | BearPerson | /nick |
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| 15:57.41 | Tupone | hi ToughShooter |
| 16:01.19 | ToughShooter | Tupone: Ciao |
| 16:02.45 | Tupone | could be I fixed it |
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| 16:27.17 | meacan | bzbb admins: alotsa spam in registration issues |
| 16:34.18 | learner | cleaning it up now |
| 16:45.31 | learner | hrmph |
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| 18:57.05 | conanhome | is there someone from germany in here? |
| 18:57.05 | Aribeth | hello tupone |
| 18:57.15 | Tupone | hi Aribeth |
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| 18:57.30 | Aribeth | missed you yesterday on runescape |
| 18:57.42 | conanhome | i wonder if someone there or maybe in any other place can connect to willempen.org |
| 18:57.49 | Tupone | hehe, I was killed 2 days ago :/ |
| 18:57.57 | Aribeth | oh no |
| 18:58.24 | Tupone | I was at the club without much concentration ... and got on the dark side to find things |
| 18:58.41 | Aribeth | ahh |
| 18:58.44 | Tupone | so I was killed by human |
| 18:58.54 | Aribeth | eek |
| 18:59.01 | Aribeth | that happened to tegan |
| 18:59.55 | Aribeth | im up to level 36 now |
| 18:59.56 | Tupone | I had food with me, just the concentration . Me 59 |
| 18:59.56 | Aribeth | ahh |
| 19:00.05 | Aribeth | im building up in the towns |
| 19:00.35 | Tupone | I just need something It is just in the wild |
| 19:00.41 | Tupone | s/just/only/ |
| 19:00.46 | Aribeth | ahh |
| 19:01.08 | Aribeth | i havnt gone there yet |
| 19:02.10 | Aribeth | are you a member? |
| 19:02.33 | Tupone | nope |
| 19:02.41 | Aribeth | ahh |
| 19:03.15 | Tupone | you aren't. yes? |
| 19:03.20 | Aribeth | no |
| 19:03.26 | Tupone | and tegan? |
| 19:03.30 | Aribeth | nope |
| 19:06.20 | _Manu_ | conanhome, I can't connect using the default port 5154. Is your server up? |
| 19:08.30 | conanhome | _Manu_: ow! sory, it isn't a bzflag server, just a webpage |
| 19:08.53 | conanhome | _Manu_: they suggested me to read it this morning |
| 19:09.00 | conanhome | _Manu_: but cant connect |
| 19:09.28 | conanhome | _Manu_: google and internet archive have too old cache |
| 19:09.38 | _Manu_ | heh |
| 19:10.19 | _Manu_ | I can connect it but your server is bad configured: |
| 19:10.31 | _Manu_ | not found: The requested URL /waws/wawslite.php was not found on this server. |
| 19:10.42 | _Manu_ | but I can see the WP logo |
| 19:10.43 | _Manu_ | icon |
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| 19:11.42 | _Manu_ | conanhome, ah, is not your server :) |
| 19:12.49 | conanhome | _Manu_: can you see that page? |
| 19:13.17 | _Manu_ | well I can see it, but no page |
| 19:13.25 | _Manu_ | the link is broken |
| 19:13.49 | _Manu_ | The requested URL /waws/wawslite.php was not found on this server. |
| 19:16.03 | learner | so |
| 19:18.18 | _Manu_ | hi learner |
| 19:21.20 | ToughShooter | Tupone: It is still broken |
| 19:21.42 | ToughShooter | the jitter is fixed in CVS HEAD but still more general lag |
| 19:21.44 | _Manu_ | Hallo ToughShooter |
| 19:21.50 | learner | howdy |
| 19:22.13 | _Manu_ | learner, seen brlcad ? ;) |
| 19:22.26 | ToughShooter | _Manu_: ¡Hola! |
| 19:22.28 | learner | only one or twice today |
| 19:22.49 | _Manu_ | he was looking for you :) |
| 19:25.02 | learner | eww |
| 19:25.13 | ToughShooter | Aww Tupone :( |
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| 19:47.48 | Grumbler | let it snow, let it snow, let it snow |
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| 19:48.47 | menotume | oh no |
| 19:48.53 | menotume | it smells in here |
| 19:48.55 | That_Smell | oh no? |
| 19:48.58 | That_Smell | Oh yes. |
| 19:51.16 | ToughShooter | menotume: Changed anything at silvercat forums? |
| 19:51.29 | menotume | at the forums ? |
| 19:51.32 | menotume | not lately |
| 19:51.42 | menotume | upgraded the phpBB a week or so ago |
| 19:52.38 | ToughShooter | Hmm, I see everything as subblack |
| 19:52.45 | ToughShooter | but my theme is subsilver |
| 19:53.02 | ToughShooter | I changed themes back and forth but it didn't changed so I asked |
| 19:54.06 | menotume | ohh |
| 19:54.09 | menotume | hmm |
| 19:55.10 | menotume | ok, i'll look at it |
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| 21:34.28 | JeffM2501 | why is jpa such a prick? |
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| 21:49.20 | menotume | ToughShooter: the 'VERFIED' mod is live now |
| 21:49.37 | trepan | JeffM2501: what provoked the query? |
| 21:49.49 | ToughShooter | menotume: yay :) |
| 21:50.26 | JeffM2501 | he says some very cruel things to people sometimes |
| 21:55.03 | JeffM2501 | and he thinks he's just "joking" |
| 21:57.34 | JeffM2501 | ibot, seen bdodson |
| 21:57.41 | ibot | i haven't seen 'bdodson', JeffM2501 |
| 21:57.56 | brad2901 | ibot seen bdotson |
| 21:57.58 | ibot | bdotson <i=brian@c-69-252-245-187.hsd1.ga.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #bzflag, 1d 4h 33m 56s ago, saying: 'if they knew what a packet was, they would be working a better paying job'. |
| 21:58.00 | brad2901 | (: |
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| 21:59.05 | JeffM2501 | I need to have some words with him about his cheat client |
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| 22:48.26 | bz5475 | Hi all... Question on installation of a new release -- is it necessary to deinstall the older one first, or can you just install over the old? (Win XP) |
| 22:49.13 | brad2901 | I don't see why installing over it would do any harm. |
| 22:49.34 | JeffM2501 | no it is not |
| 22:49.46 | JeffM2501 | it will go into a new dir |
| 22:49.57 | bz5475 | I'm sure it would be OK on Linux, but Windows can be quirky about it... can't seem to find instructions or I'd RTFM myself. |
| 22:50.23 | JeffM2501 | each version is put in it's own dir |
| 22:50.24 | brad2901 | JeffM2501: I always install over the previous version :S |
| 22:50.29 | JeffM2501 | by default |
| 22:50.32 | brad2901 | You can change the dir though.. |
| 22:50.34 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 22:50.38 | JeffM2501 | but no, it won't care |
| 22:50.46 | JeffM2501 | we don't use any system DLLs or anything that would complain |
| 22:51.11 | bz5475 | OK, thanks. About 3x per day (on a high-use day) I get a total lockup, have to use task mgr to kill the process. 2.0.4 may help, hope hope. |
| 22:51.40 | brad2901 | Have you tried the 2.0.5 beta? |
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| 22:52.22 | bz5475 | Have been on 2.0.2 for a month... I'm sure that's why I get killed a lot, all those savvy players on 2.0.4, yeah... that's it. |
| 22:52.39 | JeffM2501 | there is also a 2.0.5b3 |
| 22:52.46 | JeffM2501 | if you want to be cutting edge |
| 22:52.55 | brad2901 | 2.0.5b3 is at http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?t=6038 if you want it |
| 22:53.17 | bz5475 | After all my lock-up issues, I should run on a beta release? I'm guessin' that I'm pushing the envelope somewhere, better stay stable. |
| 22:53.28 | JeffM2501 | there isn't much difrence |
| 22:53.42 | JeffM2501 | the "beta" isn't realy any less stable then the releases :) |
| 22:53.52 | JeffM2501 | all we do for a release is say "mehh now is good" |
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| 23:05.27 | JeffM2501 | heh |
| 23:05.35 | JeffM2501 | I paraphrase sometimes :) |
| 23:05.41 | TimRiker | :) |
| 23:08.38 | bz5475 | For releases, we used to wave a rubber chicken over the server and chant "go go mo fo" repetitiously. That was for serious production work, though, so it was important enough to cover ALL bases. |
| 23:09.24 | RPG_ | lol |
| 23:10.06 | brad2901 | JeffM2501: can you update KILLER_1's IP on the masterban list? |
| 23:10.07 | brad2901 | :) |
| 23:10.23 | JeffM2501 | this is the starwars player? |
| 23:10.25 | brad2901 | yup |
| 23:10.29 | JeffM2501 | is he on a static or dynamic IP? |
| 23:10.48 | bz5475 | If paraphrasing is a phrase that leaps headlong into the void, only to land gently under a billowing canopy of "what I really meant was...", then I paraphase a lot too... 8^) |
| 23:10.54 | brad2901 | dynamic, but doesn't change often |
| 23:11.01 | JeffM2501 | we don't masterban dynamics |
| 23:11.07 | RPG_ | also, we have the IP of that guy in Downers Grove |
| 23:11.07 | brad2901 | ok |
| 23:12.11 | bz5475 | Later, all, thanks for the info and the suggestions and, well, the other stuff that's too hard to describe in chat... |
| 23:12.15 | JeffM2501 | is your killer 1 registered ? |
| 23:12.32 | RPG_ | yep |
| 23:12.36 | JeffM2501 | name? |
| 23:12.53 | brad2901 | killer_1 :P |
| 23:14.44 | TheBadBAR | what'll it be ? |
| 23:14.59 | JeffM2501 | killer_1 has been fourm baned |
| 23:15.09 | brad2901 | great. |
| 23:15.10 | JeffM2501 | if your global reg only, that should take care of him |
| 23:15.42 | RPG_ | willl the list server reflect the forum ban when handing out the token? |
| 23:15.50 | DTRemenak | TheBadBAR, well, if it's a bad bar I'm not sure I want anything anymore ;) |
| 23:15.54 | JeffM2501 | it should yes |
| 23:16.00 | TheBadBAR | DTRemenak: lol |
| 23:16.12 | JeffM2501 | coinsidering I deleted his account |
| 23:16.36 | JeffM2501 | so his username/password pair won't work anymore |
| 23:16.57 | RPG_ | ahh |
| 23:17.50 | JeffM2501 | that's about all we can do for dyanmics |
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| 23:31.34 | JeffM2501 | tupone has a laptop? |
| 23:31.50 | menotume | yes, a lap bottom too |
| 23:32.01 | JeffM2501 | who knew |
| 23:32.05 | menotume | but, we don't have to go there |
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