| 00:12.01 | *** join/#bzflag wegstar (n=wegstar@allegro/user/wegstar) |
| 00:13.55 | SportChick | !logs |
| 00:13.57 | Guu | SportChick: But I am le-tired. |
| 00:14.12 | SportChick | JeffM2501: where are guu's logs stored? |
| 00:20.36 | *** join/#bzflag bdotson (i=brian@pcp09939246pcs.poolr01.ga.comcast.net) |
| 00:23.38 | JeffM2501 | logs? |
| 00:24.24 | SportChick | doesn't gu have logs? |
| 00:24.26 | SportChick | or no? |
| 00:24.29 | SportChick | guu |
| 00:24.36 | JeffM2501 | no |
| 00:24.44 | SportChick | ah, ok |
| 00:24.48 | SportChick | nm |
| 00:24.50 | SportChick | :) |
| 00:26.21 | conanhome | did somebody see silverfox? |
| 00:31.34 | *** join/#bzflag Legolas (n=Goliath@adsl-68-127-116-59.dsl.frsn02.pacbell.net) |
| 00:31.38 | Legolas | anyone here? |
| 00:32.09 | Legolas | a;sldfkasdf |
| 00:32.12 | Legolas | asfdasdfasdfasdfasdfasdfasdfa |
| 00:32.14 | Legolas | ibot hello |
| 00:32.16 | ibot | Howdy Bub |
| 00:32.26 | Legolas | ibot, say Legolas is stupid |
| 00:32.27 | ibot | Legolas is stupid |
| 00:32.30 | Legolas | lol |
| 00:32.32 | JeffM2501 | please don't abuse the bot |
| 00:32.35 | Legolas | ok |
| 00:32.41 | Legolas | im sorry |
| 00:33.16 | Legolas | ~bzfsquery tankwar.gamesunited.de:5154 |
| 00:35.15 | Legolas | ~bzfquery tankwar.gamesunited.de:5154 |
| 00:35.36 | Legolas | ~bzfquery tankwar.gamesunited.de:5158 |
| 00:35.44 | *** join/#bzflag SilentSwan (n=silent@unaffiliated/silentswan) |
| 00:36.02 | SilentSwan | grr |
| 00:36.02 | *** join/#bzflag dward (n=3ec2bcb7@webchat.bzflag.bz) |
| 00:37.09 | *** join/#bzflag bz2703 (n=80bb3e1b@webchat.bzflag.bz) |
| 00:38.04 | bz2703 | how do you chat in observer mode? |
| 00:38.12 | SilentSwan | same as you would otherwise |
| 00:38.17 | bz2703 | well how is that? |
| 00:38.17 | SilentSwan | n |
| 00:38.31 | SilentSwan | n to send message to all, . to send message to one player |
| 00:38.59 | blast007 | should also be in the help menu that lists the key mappings |
| 00:39.31 | bz2703 | oh, how do you see the help menu? |
| 00:39.44 | blast007 | from the main menu |
| 00:40.00 | SilentSwan | !weather 60515 |
| 00:40.03 | Guu | SilentSwan: The current temperature in Weather Underground is 22°F. |
| 00:40.06 | SilentSwan | ugh |
| 00:40.13 | SilentSwan | you're welcome, bz2703 |
| 00:40.17 | blast007 | You have entered the Weather Underground |
| 00:40.24 | SilentSwan | 22F.. omg |
| 00:40.26 | SilentSwan | kill me |
| 00:40.33 | SilentSwan | my hands are all dried out |
| 00:40.39 | blast007 | !weather 53545 |
| 00:40.45 | Guu | blast007: The current temperature in Weather Underground is 28°F. |
| 00:41.19 | blast007 | then again, you can't always trust Guu on the weather...sometimes reports the Dew point instead |
| 00:41.25 | SilentSwan | hah |
| 00:41.40 | blast007 | ~weather KJVL |
| 00:41.51 | bdotson | ~weather KSAV |
| 00:41.52 | SilentSwan | http://www.suntimes.com/weather/index.html close enough |
| 00:43.03 | SilentSwan | so i can make my keyboard all slippery |
| 00:43.45 | wizatcom | SilentSwan: get an indestructable keyboard so you can wash it off at the end of the day |
| 00:43.51 | SilentSwan | there ya go |
| 00:44.00 | wizatcom | and it feels better than the standard keyboards |
| 00:44.46 | SilentSwan | does anyone know if there's code in the works to show the '@','+','-' chars before the callsigns in bzadmin? |
| 00:45.21 | SilentSwan | if not, perhaps i'll mess with it when i get bored at work... |
| 00:45.25 | wizatcom | SilentSwan: that dosen't seem to hard to code actually |
| 00:45.29 | SilentSwan | no |
| 00:45.39 | SilentSwan | pretty much a no-brainer :) |
| 00:45.47 | SilentSwan | that's why i figured i'd have a go |
| 00:45.50 | SilentSwan | <- no brain left |
| 00:45.52 | wizatcom | well my brain is shot now, so i'll take a stab at it as well |
| 00:45.54 | bdotson | has bzflag been patched to not send the flag IDs to clients yet? |
| 00:45.57 | SilentSwan | heh |
| 00:46.10 | blast007 | bdotson: if there is no identify flags, yes |
| 00:46.16 | bdotson | ah ok |
| 00:46.32 | blast007 | then they will all appear as PZ to a cheater |
| 00:46.44 | SilentSwan | i'm not sure i understood that one... what exactly does the ID flag do that it shouldn't? |
| 00:46.59 | bdotson | people can edit RadarRenderer.cxx |
| 00:47.07 | wizatcom | SilentSwan: the ID flag allows you to see what flag is on the ground infront of you |
| 00:47.08 | bdotson | to show flags as different colors |
| 00:47.15 | blast007 | SilentSwan: if the identify flag is there, people need to know what each flags are |
| 00:47.18 | wizatcom | and some people changed the code to always show the closest flag |
| 00:47.30 | wizatcom | giving them an unfair advantage |
| 00:47.30 | SilentSwan | ah i see |
| 00:47.40 | SilentSwan | how long has that bug existed? |
| 00:47.47 | blast007 | it's not really a bug |
| 00:47.50 | SilentSwan | i have a feeling that may explain a few things i've seen |
| 00:47.53 | brlcad | SilentSwan: not in the works araik |
| 00:48.03 | wizatcom | it's more or less too much trust in the client |
| 00:48.11 | blast007 | SilentSwan: that has been how it works since the good old days |
| 00:48.14 | SilentSwan | like some players on certain servers always managing to get good flags |
| 00:48.18 | brlcad | probably just snarf the same code from the client even |
| 00:48.24 | bdotson | SilentSwan editing the client to show all flags on the field was widespread as far as i could tell |
| 00:48.34 | blast007 | when I drop good flags, I know where I dropped them and go back |
| 00:48.35 | bdotson | some people consistently got good flags |
| 00:48.36 | SilentSwan | oh my |
| 00:48.47 | SilentSwan | i'll bet that's what it was... *sigh* |
| 00:48.48 | bdotson | which is why i asked if it was fixed yet |
| 00:49.19 | brlcad | if you pay attention to the whole field, you can tell when you drop a good flag where it respawns too |
| 00:49.28 | blast007 | yup, that too |
| 00:49.29 | brlcad | or if you're killed with one too |
| 00:49.32 | SilentSwan | blast007 there's that... but i recall at least one player on secretplace who used to constantly end up with laser/GM... just a few too many times to be coincidence |
| 00:49.58 | SilentSwan | of course, i havn't been on there in 2 months, so.. heh.. i don't care. |
| 00:50.13 | bdotson | i know one guy had a client up for download which color coded each flag on the radar to correspond to a certain flag |
| 00:50.16 | blast007 | I don't play there as much either..too much camping |
| 00:50.24 | bdotson | ie. yellow would be GM or something |
| 00:50.26 | JeffM2501 | tha'ts an old cheat |
| 00:50.28 | brlcad | i doubt it was coincidence too, they were probably paying attention to who had it, where it respawns, where it moves to, etc ;) |
| 00:50.29 | SilentSwan | the player in question is an admin, at that |
| 00:50.33 | JeffM2501 | tht's why we changed the srever |
| 00:50.58 | SilentSwan | brlcad oh i've done that, too... but again, it was just too consistent |
| 00:51.10 | SilentSwan | ah well, me no care |
| 00:51.17 | SilentSwan | me take ID flags off everything |
| 00:51.59 | trepan | also be sure not to use 'fixed' flags (+f option) |
| 00:52.22 | trepan | fairly simple to setup a client to keep track of flag types |
| 00:52.26 | blast007 | do those maintain their ID? |
| 00:53.37 | trepan | can also set _maxFlagGrabs to 0, make sure that folks can't track visually |
| 00:53.50 | trepan | sry, that part made no sense :) |
| 00:54.26 | trepan | w.r.t. radar tracking that is, and few drop the good flags |
| 00:56.07 | SilentSwan | wait, i'm not sure how to configure the flags at all without +f |
| 00:56.29 | blast007 | +s and -s |
| 00:56.32 | blast007 | random flags |
| 00:56.46 | blast007 | I don't use they though, so I'm not sure exactly how they work |
| 00:56.52 | blast007 | them* |
| 00:57.02 | SilentSwan | ah ok |
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| 00:57.35 | trepan | -f is also used with -s/+s (and not +f as might be expected) |
| 00:57.37 | SilentSwan | the config file example that comes with it specifies things as +f |
| 00:58.11 | SilentSwan | but.. +s... can that be used like +f to specify the # of a given flag type? |
| 00:58.17 | blast007 | nope |
| 00:58.20 | SilentSwan | like if you want only 3 GM's for example? |
| 00:58.21 | SilentSwan | oh |
| 00:58.21 | SilentSwan | :( |
| 00:58.27 | blast007 | just a number of flags in general |
| 00:58.29 | SilentSwan | so just +s with no args |
| 00:58.35 | SilentSwan | or with a number arg |
| 00:58.52 | blast007 | number |
| 00:58.59 | SilentSwan | ok, then you can still use -f FLAG if you don't want a certain flag to appear at all? |
| 00:59.01 | blast007 | bzfs -help |
| 00:59.20 | SilentSwan | or -s |
| 01:00.40 | SilentSwan | i'm still confused.. +s appears to refer to "super flags" only.. |
| 01:00.47 | blast007 | -s is the max, -s is the min |
| 01:00.52 | blast007 | superflags are the white ones |
| 01:00.58 | SilentSwan | yes |
| 01:01.10 | SilentSwan | so... waht about the others? if you don't want to use +f |
| 01:01.29 | blast007 | "super flags" aren't just things like GM and L |
| 01:01.40 | blast007 | they refer to all flags with the white flag |
| 01:01.48 | blast007 | not the white on the scoreboard |
| 01:01.57 | SilentSwan | the... white flag. |
| 01:01.59 | SilentSwan | i see |
| 01:02.02 | blast007 | non-team |
| 01:02.05 | SilentSwan | ah ok |
| 01:02.25 | SilentSwan | now i understand... slight terminology confusion |
| 01:02.37 | blast007 | I had the came confusion :) |
| 01:02.39 | blast007 | same* |
| 01:03.48 | SilentSwan | i'm blonde, so i have an excuse :) |
| 01:04.40 | blast007 | no excuse needed, the term is misleading...most wouldn't think of "Useless" as a "Super Flag" |
| 01:04.59 | SilentSwan | why does that flag exist anyway? |
| 01:05.10 | brlcad | ~dict ostensibly |
| 01:05.18 | blast007 | heck, why does Wings exist? |
| 01:05.25 | blast007 | it's just a cheat made into a flag |
| 01:05.26 | SilentSwan | yeah really |
| 01:05.40 | SilentSwan | i've made my stance on that too many times... |
| 01:05.43 | blast007 | same with Seer |
| 01:05.53 | SilentSwan | well.. not really |
| 01:05.54 | brlcad | it was made because you're the wind beneath my wings |
| 01:05.57 | wizatcom | seer is good for revenge :) |
| 01:06.22 | SilentSwan | Seer is a counter to another flag... ST or CL. ST counters GM. CL counters L. But what counters WG? nothing. |
| 01:06.27 | SilentSwan | unless you're close by with a SW |
| 01:06.38 | wizatcom | SilentSwan: GMs are pretty good against WG |
| 01:06.47 | SilentSwan | not from what i've seen |
| 01:06.49 | SilentSwan | depends |
| 01:06.55 | wizatcom | yes, it depends |
| 01:07.02 | wizatcom | the lower the better, up to a point |
| 01:07.12 | blast007 | not at close range...cuz of the gm activation delay |
| 01:07.22 | wizatcom | hence the up to a point |
| 01:07.58 | blast007 | yup, laggy connection here ;) |
| 01:08.19 | wizatcom | who maintains the Dev C++ poject files? |
| 01:08.30 | wizatcom | *project |
| 01:08.31 | SilentSwan | right... i'm going home. |
| 01:08.33 | blast007 | lan56 |
| 01:08.44 | wizatcom | oh |
| 01:09.08 | blast007 | is it not working or something? |
| 01:09.13 | brlcad | SW is a counter to WG but is not that effective with the default values |
| 01:09.18 | wizatcom | i spent an hour today trying to get it to work |
| 01:09.27 | brlcad | the expansion rate and radius should be increased on a server with WG |
| 01:09.31 | wizatcom | for some reason 5 or 6 c++ files wern't added to the project |
| 01:09.35 | brlcad | and WG should probably have a default flap count |
| 01:09.37 | blast007 | brlcad: /set _shockOutRadius 400 ;) |
| 01:09.37 | wizatcom | took me a while to figure that out |
| 01:09.52 | JeffM2501 | the dev C++ isn ot real maintained |
| 01:09.54 | brlcad | wizatcom: that's frequently the case |
| 01:09.57 | JeffM2501 | lan56 started it |
| 01:10.00 | wizatcom | set it to 1000 and laught when everyone colelctivly yells out "wtf!?!" =D |
| 01:10.04 | brlcad | he updates it from time to time |
| 01:10.06 | JeffM2501 | but he's somewhat flakey |
| 01:10.09 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 01:10.15 | JeffM2501 | I hope to remove it soon |
| 01:10.19 | wizatcom | no! |
| 01:10.21 | JeffM2501 | when VC8 support is done |
| 01:10.21 | wizatcom | please don'y |
| 01:10.25 | wizatcom | *don't |
| 01:10.34 | JeffM2501 | why? just use VC8 express |
| 01:10.41 | JeffM2501 | it's a lot better |
| 01:10.41 | wizatcom | i like OS stuff more |
| 01:10.51 | JeffM2501 | then use mingq |
| 01:10.54 | JeffM2501 | mingw |
| 01:10.56 | JeffM2501 | it's better |
| 01:11.01 | JeffM2501 | and allways up to date |
| 01:11.07 | wizatcom | isn't dev c++ just a front end to mingw? |
| 01:11.11 | JeffM2501 | yes |
| 01:11.19 | wizatcom | hmm |
| 01:11.22 | JeffM2501 | but it does not use the linux make files |
| 01:11.26 | wizatcom | right |
| 01:11.52 | wizatcom | well, tomorrow i can submit a dev c++ project file that i know works to the tracker |
| 01:11.53 | brlcad | someone should recreate the dev-c++ project like how the xcode project is made, so that it just invokes autogen.sh configure make |
| 01:11.57 | JeffM2501 | noone uses devC++ for development |
| 01:12.10 | JeffM2501 | don't know if it can even do that brlcad |
| 01:12.26 | brlcad | it's gotta have some scripting capability |
| 01:12.58 | JeffM2501 | wizatcom, then you'd be the only one, and you'd be the one to update it |
| 01:13.10 | wizatcom | alright |
| 01:13.22 | JeffM2501 | brlcad, not nesisaraly, it's a little dephi app :) |
| 01:13.25 | JeffM2501 | it's a toy IDE |
| 01:13.34 | JeffM2501 | can't even do multi project workspaces |
| 01:13.36 | brlcad | yeah, if you submit a patch for it and keep it up to date, you'd probably get to take over it's maintenance ;) |
| 01:13.57 | wizatcom | though still, installing < 50Mb worth of files is alot better than installing the entire DirectX and Win SDK |
| 01:14.04 | JeffM2501 | but you won't be able to complain that it is missing files, since it'd be your job :) |
| 01:14.10 | wizatcom | JeffM2501: i know |
| 01:14.19 | wizatcom | though it's alot easier to fix once i know the problem |
| 01:14.19 | JeffM2501 | use mingw then |
| 01:14.22 | JeffM2501 | it uses the makefiles |
| 01:14.25 | JeffM2501 | and still uses SDL |
| 01:14.31 | JeffM2501 | just don't have the clicky IDE thing |
| 01:15.16 | wizatcom | JeffM2501: the other reason that i like dev C++ is that in a school enviroment, it's nice to keep projects seperate |
| 01:15.28 | JeffM2501 | what do you mean? |
| 01:15.32 | wizatcom | since stuff tends to be "messed with" in VS |
| 01:15.38 | JeffM2501 | messed with? |
| 01:15.43 | orchid | yay clicky |
| 01:15.45 | wizatcom | random stuff changed |
| 01:15.49 | wizatcom | (school enviroment) |
| 01:15.55 | wizatcom | 3 or 4 classes all use VS |
| 01:15.57 | JeffM2501 | most of the settigns are in the projects |
| 01:16.13 | JeffM2501 | nothing that affects build |
| 01:16.29 | wizatcom | JeffM2501: i'm saying that the seperation is nice in a school enviroment, where someone using MS VS can't accidentally do anything to the bz stuff |
| 01:16.50 | *** join/#bzflag Cybodog (n=damon@ip68-97-157-156.ok.ok.cox.net) |
| 01:17.05 | JeffM2501 | brlcad, the problem with doing it Xcode style would be, in dev C++ there isn't going to be autotools and autoconft etc.. on a windows system |
| 01:17.10 | Cybodog | how do you reg. your nick? |
| 01:17.21 | JeffM2501 | /msg nickserv help |
| 01:17.34 | Cybodog | not for irc, for the game |
| 01:17.43 | JeffM2501 | my.bzflag.org/bb/ |
| 01:18.12 | JeffM2501 | wizatcom, then stop screwing around at school :) |
| 01:18.37 | wizatcom | JeffM2501: it's actually our project |
| 01:18.47 | wizatcom | so our class has an excuse to play bzflag |
| 01:18.49 | wizatcom | :) |
| 01:19.04 | Cybodog | I am to stupid to use that page. |
| 01:19.07 | JeffM2501 | then the school shoudl have a way to prevent people from messing up projects of other classes |
| 01:19.17 | JeffM2501 | Cybodog, guess you won't be registering then |
| 01:19.18 | Cybodog | go to register and it tells me that name is allready used |
| 01:19.24 | JeffM2501 | then it is used |
| 01:19.27 | Cybodog | and I have not put in anything |
| 01:19.28 | JeffM2501 | pick a new one |
| 01:19.29 | *** join/#bzflag a_monkey (n=elmunky@user-0can33s.cable.mindspring.com) |
| 01:19.55 | Cybodog | http://my.bzflag.org/bb/profile.php?mode=register&sid=f823c6f4c3f4b54ab62b72f64af45723 <<give no place to put in a name |
| 01:19.55 | wizatcom | JeffM2501: security/the like are sorta low priority at our school |
| 01:19.56 | wizatcom | heh |
| 01:20.16 | wizatcom | Cybodog: you have to click "agree" |
| 01:20.16 | JeffM2501 | Cybodog, how old are you? |
| 01:20.19 | wizatcom | if you actually do |
| 01:20.44 | Cybodog | Sorry, but this username has already been taken. <<no name was ever asked |
| 01:20.57 | JeffM2501 | what link are you clicking on? |
| 01:21.07 | JeffM2501 | of the 3 at the botom |
| 01:21.09 | a_monkey | when i order my imac with 1.5GB of ram, is it preinstalled? or separate do-it-yourself |
| 01:21.21 | Cybodog | using http://my.bzflag.org/bb/profile.php?mode=register&agreed=true&sid=f823c6f4c3f4b54ab62b72f64af45723 |
| 01:21.24 | JeffM2501 | a_monkey, if you ask on #macfreaks |
| 01:21.28 | a_monkey | oops |
| 01:21.28 | wizatcom | a_monkey: where are you ordering it from? |
| 01:21.32 | a_monkey | sorry |
| 01:21.36 | a_monkey | fellow bzflaggers |
| 01:21.41 | JeffM2501 | it will be installed |
| 01:21.41 | a_monkey | i meant to ask it in #macos |
| 01:21.42 | a_monkey | x |
| 01:21.47 | JeffM2501 | now please don't intrupt with non bz stuff |
| 01:21.55 | Cybodog | I agree and am over 13, again there is no place to put in a nick or password |
| 01:22.02 | JeffM2501 | Cybodog, when it asks you to agree and your age what one do you click, top, middle, or bottom? |
| 01:22.08 | a_monkey | JeffM2501: sorry, wrong channel... |
| 01:22.09 | Cybodog | top |
| 01:22.24 | JeffM2501 | Cybodog, have you ever used the fourm before? |
| 01:22.34 | Cybodog | hell, I run one! |
| 01:22.40 | JeffM2501 | no OUR forum |
| 01:22.52 | JeffM2501 | nope |
| 01:22.54 | JeffM2501 | it's busted |
| 01:22.55 | JeffM2501 | hmm |
| 01:22.59 | Cybodog | RedDog is my nick, I used to be registerd |
| 01:23.06 | JeffM2501 | fun |
| 01:23.13 | Cybodog | before the global regerstration |
| 01:23.14 | JeffM2501 | then login as that |
| 01:23.19 | JeffM2501 | and change your username |
| 01:23.42 | JeffM2501 | you may have a cookie still |
| 01:23.46 | JeffM2501 | and it's trying to use that |
| 01:23.55 | JeffM2501 | or somone busted registration |
| 01:23.56 | Cybodog | not a chance on the cookie |
| 01:24.04 | Cybodog | several OS's ago |
| 01:24.09 | JeffM2501 | then registration is busted |
| 01:24.34 | blast007 | yeah, I'm getting it too |
| 01:24.52 | JeffM2501 | like I said it's busted |
| 01:24.54 | Cybodog | phew |
| 01:25.04 | Cybodog | I just thought RedDog was not smart! |
| 01:25.55 | JeffM2501 | could be due to the cleanup stuff dtr did |
| 01:26.01 | JeffM2501 | betting the IDs are off |
| 01:26.13 | blast007 | hmm |
| 01:26.17 | Cybodog | I doubt I have ever been to THIS forum. |
| 01:27.10 | JeffM2501 | have to have him look at it when he gets back from whereever |
| 01:27.36 | Cybodog | thanks, I know how annoying these stupid user questions can be :) |
| 01:32.03 | brlcad | JeffM2501: ahh, but there should be if it's based on mingw (and doesn't have to be regardless for source distributions) |
| 01:32.11 | *** part/#bzflag Cybodog (n=damon@ip68-97-157-156.ok.ok.cox.net) |
| 01:32.27 | JeffM2501 | mingw itself dosn't come with autotools, you have to get those seperately from the core |
| 01:32.46 | JeffM2501 | don't know what devC++ includes with it tho |
| 01:32.49 | JeffM2501 | so it may work |
| 01:32.55 | brlcad | that's what I mean |
| 01:32.58 | JeffM2501 | just thinking of what prolems COULD be |
| 01:33.13 | brlcad | it depends on dev-c++ which I would "hope" included the build tools for that very reason |
| 01:33.28 | JeffM2501 | yeah it's that hope part |
| 01:33.31 | DTRemenak | hm, registration is broken? |
| 01:33.35 | JeffM2501 | yes |
| 01:33.48 | JeffM2501 | I have a feeling it's trying to use IDs that you replaced |
| 01:34.14 | JeffM2501 | brlcad, I have found it wise to put litle faith in dev C++ |
| 01:34.18 | DTRemenak | no IDs should be reused |
| 01:34.23 | JeffM2501 | I belive they use there own build of mingw |
| 01:34.30 | DTRemenak | probably trying to use the "next" one after the last one I added, which already exists |
| 01:34.37 | JeffM2501 | dtremenak well it's not wokin |
| 01:34.52 | JeffM2501 | maybe there is a "last one" count that need to be changed |
| 01:40.38 | blast007 | the phpBB source checks what the highest user_id is, then adds 1 to it |
| 01:42.16 | DTRemenak | highest user_id is 6413 |
| 01:42.35 | DTRemenak | creating a bogus 6414 doesn't seem to help |
| 01:43.30 | blast007 | DTRemenak: do you have access to the forum files? |
| 01:43.33 | DTRemenak | yeah |
| 01:44.22 | blast007 | well, I'm looking in includes/usercp_register.php, and the only spot I see that error triggered is if the user is already logged in |
| 01:44.47 | blast007 | message_die(GENERAL_MESSAGE, $lang['Username_taken'], '', __LINE__, __FILE__); |
| 01:44.47 | DTRemenak | how does it check to see if it's logged in? |
| 01:44.57 | blast007 | if ($mode == 'register' && ($userdata['session_logged_in'] || $username == $userdata['username'])) |
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| 01:45.24 | DTRemenak | huh |
| 01:48.15 | blast007 | ah, validate_username can also throw that error |
| 01:48.44 | JeffM2501 | why would it call validate username before it even GOT a username |
| 01:48.46 | blast007 | I'm not sure why it's thinking the form has been submit though |
| 01:48.50 | blast007 | exactly |
| 01:49.22 | blast007 | has any changes been made to the .php files themself? |
| 01:49.34 | DTRemenak | not afaik |
| 01:49.36 | JeffM2501 | not that I know of |
| 01:49.52 | DTRemenak | unless menotume added something to allow in-game reg |
| 01:50.00 | blast007 | hmm |
| 01:50.17 | menotume | DTRemenak: did we ever agree how to do it ? |
| 01:50.27 | DTRemenak | menotume: I don't think so, no :) |
| 01:51.05 | menotume | If you figure it our, just tell me what you need :) |
| 01:51.09 | menotume | s/our/out |
| 01:51.12 | DTRemenak | blast007: where is validate_username? |
| 01:51.27 | DTRemenak | usercp_register is not the one throwing the error |
| 01:51.41 | blast007 | includes\functions_validate.php |
| 01:53.30 | Ice_Wewe | do you loose a post count everytime you edit something? I just had 109, and now I've been robbed of a number!!! |
| 01:54.29 | JeffM2501 | yes you have |
| 01:54.31 | JeffM2501 | deal with it |
| 01:54.42 | DTRemenak | hm, doesn't seem to be that one either |
| 01:54.47 | DTRemenak | you sure those are the only two? |
| 01:55.08 | blast007 | there is two spots in username_validate |
| 01:55.17 | DTRemenak | ah |
| 01:55.29 | blast007 | only other spot is admin\admin_users.php |
| 01:56.01 | orange | JeffM2501: is it technically possible to turn off post counts? |
| 01:56.09 | JeffM2501 | yes |
| 01:56.16 | JeffM2501 | I have thought about it MANY times |
| 01:56.31 | blast007 | :) |
| 01:56.35 | JeffM2501 | once we get updated that will be a thing to look at |
| 01:57.14 | JeffM2501 | there are many things I'd like to do, but I do not trust myself with php to do them |
| 01:59.49 | JeffM2501 | and Ice_Wewe yes I got your PM |
| 02:00.33 | Ice_Wewe | JeffM2501: where did my post go? |
| 02:00.38 | JeffM2501 | away |
| 02:00.42 | Ice_Wewe | JeffM2501: why? |
| 02:00.49 | JeffM2501 | it wasn't a real picture of you |
| 02:00.54 | JeffM2501 | so it was off topic |
| 02:07.45 | DTRemenak | it is dying in register_cp. username is blank. |
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| 02:16.57 | MrMustard | Crazy_Cora --- hi there |
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| 02:23.07 | JeffM2501 | wow a 4 to 1 babble ratio on a thread, tha'ts impresive |
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| 02:29.40 | TheRedBaron | JeffM2501: if a moderator wants to change who is a moderator in a group at The forums, how do they change it? |
| 02:30.03 | menotume | they ask Jeff |
| 02:30.05 | menotume | :) |
| 02:30.21 | DTRemenak | JeffM2501: figured it out. Userid -1 had no posts, was not activated, and had registered more than a month ago |
| 02:30.21 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 02:30.28 | DTRemenak | -1 is guest :) |
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| 02:30.36 | TheRedBaron | menotume: like i just did ;) |
| 02:30.37 | JeffM2501 | ahh |
| 02:30.45 | JeffM2501 | TheRedBaron, I can change it for you |
| 02:30.47 | menotume | TheRedBaron: what group ? |
| 02:30.55 | JeffM2501 | just /msg me with the group, and who |
| 02:30.58 | DTRemenak | anyone know how to copy rows between tables in mysql off the top of your head? |
| 02:30.58 | TheRedBaron | Jeffm2501: Tib.teamforum |
| 02:31.02 | menotume | ahhh, it's easier if JeffM2501 does it :) |
| 02:31.06 | JeffM2501 | 1 sec |
| 02:31.32 | menotume | DTRemenak: insert into ..... select from .... |
| 02:31.38 | DTRemenak | k |
| 02:31.39 | menotume | one sec ... |
| 02:32.18 | TheRedBaron | menotume no Ctrl+C and ctrl + V |
| 02:32.23 | TheRedBaron | ;) |
| 02:33.04 | menotume | INSERT [LOW_PRIORITY | HIGH_PRIORITY] [IGNORE] |
| 02:33.04 | menotume | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:33.04 | menotume | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:33.32 | menotume | or ... http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/insert.html :) |
| 02:33.39 | DTRemenak | yeah :) |
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| 02:36.03 | Cybodog | is the my.bzflag//bb admin back yet? |
| 02:36.36 | DTRemenak | Cybodog: just about got it fixed. and JeffM2501 is the admin, I'm just a random guy who screwed it up :) |
| 02:36.36 | Cybodog | howdy theRedBaron RedDog here |
| 02:36.44 | Cybodog | :) |
| 02:36.54 | DTRemenak | menotume: ERROR 1136: Column count doesn't match value count at row 1 |
| 02:37.00 | DTRemenak | this is mysql 4 iirc |
| 02:37.28 | JeffM2501 | dtremenak you are an admin as well :) |
| 02:37.40 | DTRemenak | you're in charge :) |
| 02:37.44 | JeffM2501 | Cybodog, some cleaning and meantancne of the forum today broke it |
| 02:38.00 | Cybodog | I hate that. |
| 02:38.01 | JeffM2501 | it is being fixed now |
| 02:38.05 | JeffM2501 | dtremenak I am? |
| 02:38.23 | DTRemenak | JeffM2501: sure :) |
| 02:38.49 | Cybodog | Now that I can mostyl beat WHAMMO and Xray, sometime Mule, I really need to reg. my really cool nick (he he) |
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| 02:40.27 | TheRedBaron | howdy cybodog |
| 02:40.35 | Cybodog | howdy indeed |
| 02:40.40 | TheRedBaron | glad to see you still play! |
| 02:41.01 | Cybodog | of course, mostly at secret place. |
| 02:41.11 | Cybodog | dunti is far to hard |
| 02:41.16 | Cybodog | duconti |
| 02:41.18 | DTRemenak | yay |
| 02:41.22 | Cybodog | what ever it is |
| 02:41.23 | DTRemenak | Cybodog: should work for ya now |
| 02:41.28 | Cybodog | ty |
| 02:41.35 | TheRedBaron | ah, I'm a ducati, gu, pillbox guy |
| 02:41.42 | DTRemenak | JeffM2501: I added an exemption for the delete query for userid <= 1 |
| 02:41.43 | Cybodog | what is gu? |
| 02:41.50 | Cybodog | yes |
| 02:41.55 | Cybodog | seems to work |
| 02:41.55 | TheRedBaron | bzflag0.gamesunited.de |
| 02:42.15 | Cybodog | oh, the .de would make that hard on me, I am in USA, Oklahoma |
| 02:42.15 | TheRedBaron | port 5154 |
| 02:42.43 | JeffM2501 | dtremenak what ever works |
| 02:43.37 | Cybodog | is this how I reg. my nick in the game? |
| 02:44.36 | TheRedBaron | cybodog: looks like you did http://my.bzflag.org/bb/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&u=6416 |
| 02:44.37 | TheRedBaron | :) |
| 02:45.03 | Cybodog | RECRUIT! |
| 02:45.06 | Cybodog | bahh! |
| 02:45.12 | blast007 | hehe |
| 02:46.27 | JeffM2501 | that is what everyone starts at |
| 02:46.44 | Cybodog | Starts as! Humph! |
| 02:46.55 | blast007 | not that rank means anything |
| 02:46.55 | JeffM2501 | well you did JUST register |
| 02:47.02 | JeffM2501 | that it dosn't |
| 02:47.30 | Cybodog | I have killed theredbaron, redbaron2 and redbaron! (just joking, I know how it works, but hey, have to keep in charictor |
| 02:47.40 | blast007 | hehe |
| 02:48.06 | Cybodog | can't have newbs think I am not arrogant |
| 02:48.18 | Cybodog | even if I do try to teach them how to avoid my shots |
| 02:50.06 | Cybodog | so how do you link this with a live server and show the score? |
| 02:50.37 | JeffM2501 | link what? |
| 02:50.42 | JeffM2501 | there we go, no more post counts |
| 02:51.12 | Cybodog | hold on, I will show you, doing three things at once |
| 02:51.37 | trepan | JeffM2501: use a bash.org type of score per post ("was this post useful? +/-"), and tally 'em per user |
| 02:51.51 | blast007 | karma mod ;) |
| 02:52.01 | JeffM2501 | mehh, who even cares about a post score |
| 02:52.46 | trepan | can't post at -10, get +1 recovery per day |
| 02:53.10 | TheRedBaron | trepan: yea |
| 02:53.25 | JeffM2501 | at that point I'd tie it to in game too |
| 02:53.27 | Cybodog | http://my.bzflag.org/<<--current facts |
| 02:53.31 | JeffM2501 | like the proal systms |
| 02:53.33 | trepan | TheRedBaron: i'm being facetious, blind leading the blind |
| 02:53.40 | JeffM2501 | Cybodog, that lists all public servers |
| 02:53.55 | JeffM2501 | and all players on them |
| 02:54.04 | JeffM2501 | play as your name and i'll pick you up |
| 02:54.24 | Cybodog | now that is some nice coding, anything to get out of recruit status |
| 02:54.37 | JeffM2501 | playing won't make you not a recurit |
| 02:54.41 | TheRedBaron | Trepan: i'm not :) I like your idea |
| 02:54.41 | JeffM2501 | it's just based on your post count |
| 02:54.47 | Cybodog | damg |
| 02:55.10 | JeffM2501 | you'll live |
| 02:55.21 | Cybodog | maybe |
| 02:55.24 | Cybodog | I will try |
| 02:55.27 | JeffM2501 | no maybe about it |
| 02:56.18 | trepan | TheRedBaron: you want the kiddies to be able to disable your ability to post? |
| 02:57.02 | JeffM2501 | the only things I want to do with ranks that will ahve to wait for phpbb 2.2 is rank groups |
| 02:57.28 | Cybodog | ranks dont bother me at all |
| 02:57.40 | JeffM2501 | then I can make it so everyday users are in the lower enlisteds, then server owners in the upper enlistes, trusted users in officer, and dev/admin in it's onw set |
| 02:57.56 | Cybodog | nice touch |
| 02:58.07 | JeffM2501 | and tie those to server side groups |
| 02:58.31 | JeffM2501 | time to go home |
| 02:58.51 | TheRedBaron | trepan: hmm |
| 02:59.36 | TheRedBaron | I don't post much anyway |
| 03:00.07 | Cybodog | thanks guys. |
| 03:00.11 | Cybodog | appreciate it. |
| 03:00.20 | Cybodog | kill you all later in the game |
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| 03:00.45 | TheRedBaron | hehe I avoid secret place :) |
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| 04:17.35 | cosmos | http://tinyurl.com/9pa45 |
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| 04:20.02 | shorty114 | how do you change the icons for stuff (such as folders, drives, etc?) in windows? |
| 04:20.07 | shorty114 | do you have to do it manually? |
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| 05:10.58 | SC | SC waves to DTRemenak |
| 05:11.16 | DTRemenak | JeffM2501: DELETE FROM phpbb_users WHERE user_active = 0 AND user_posts = 0 AND user_regdate < UNIX_TIMESTAMP(DATE_SUB(NOW(), INTERVAL 31 DAY)) and user_id > 1; should work right |
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| 06:24.43 | Crazy_Cora | eek |
| 06:25.04 | brlcad | won't let me log in and still haven't received the damn email |
| 06:25.12 | Crazy_Cora | ahh |
| 06:25.24 | Crazy_Cora | i would too |
| 06:26.16 | brlcad | i somehow don't quite believe that the mail me my account data is working, or it's just being incredibly slow |
| 06:26.38 | Crazy_Cora | ahh |
| 06:27.17 | brlcad | and I've tried every ID i can think of.. not to mention the blatently obvious one that it should be |
| 06:27.58 | brlcad | hmm.. maybe case sensitive.. |
| 06:28.26 | Crazy_Cora | i love the ones that say enter your password to reset your password |
| 06:29.01 | Crazy_Cora | or some info that should work, but it dosnt so you have to make a call |
| 06:29.45 | Crazy_Cora | verizon is good at getting things messed up |
| 06:30.52 | Crazy_Cora | they have something like a login/password, a pin, and a passphrase |
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| 07:38.51 | brlcad | woot, wiki entry is beefed up some |
| 07:39.51 | brlcad | http://bzflag.org/wiki/Logging |
| 07:40.39 | brlcad | i've stubbed out some examples and provided a bit more english on the difference between the message types, groupings, and atoms |
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| 07:58.46 | Mr_Molez | is there any way on a server to make tanks unkillable ? |
| 08:00.14 | brlcad | Mr_Molez: you used to be able to make their height / shot radius near zero |
| 08:00.23 | Mr_Molez | well |
| 08:00.26 | Mr_Molez | there is this server |
| 08:00.46 | Mr_Molez | roxport.game-host.org |
| 08:00.52 | Mr_Molez | and non of us could kill a tank |
| 08:01.08 | Mr_Molez | the owned let me sit there shooting directly infront of him and it didnt kill |
| 08:01.18 | Mr_Molez | just wondering if that is a cheat, or a feature |
| 08:01.28 | brlcad | that could also be something else |
| 08:01.37 | Mr_Molez | oh ? |
| 08:01.49 | brlcad | more likely a feature or a misconfigured server/firewall |
| 08:02.01 | Mr_Molez | wasnt just 1 person |
| 08:02.04 | Mr_Molez | couldnt kill ne 1 |
| 08:02.09 | Mr_Molez | well |
| 08:02.13 | Mr_Molez | only tried to kill 3 people |
| 08:02.33 | brlcad | could they kill you? |
| 08:02.42 | brlcad | could you see other people's shots? |
| 08:02.43 | Mr_Molez | yeh |
| 08:03.05 | Mr_Molez | maybe they altered the source code of the server ? |
| 08:03.10 | brlcad | and could those other people's shots hit this particular player |
| 08:03.21 | Mr_Molez | no |
| 08:03.58 | brlcad | then more than likely that player has either a modified client or there's a firewall preventing him from getting packets |
| 08:04.21 | Mr_Molez | ahh ok |
| 08:04.26 | Mr_Molez | :p |
| 08:04.33 | brlcad | i'd bank on the latter, it's fairly common |
| 08:04.39 | Mr_Molez | well, back to playing, later, thanks for talking |
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| 08:15.43 | Roxport | Death_Barrel: i was changing server variables before you joined my server. might be why shots appeared strange |
| 08:18.00 | Roxport | Death_Barrel: not cool to join a server and immediately accuse admin of running a cheat server. |
| 08:22.15 | Death_Barrel | well what am i supposed to think when you mute me? |
| 08:22.50 | Death_Barrel | low on bandwith there buddy? |
| 08:23.01 | Roxport | you said "cunt", unless it was a typo, referring to a server variable. muted you after you freaked out. dsl buddy |
| 08:23.18 | Roxport | then unmuted you right away. have patience my friend. it's just a game |
| 08:23.54 | Death_Barrel | wha?? |
| 08:24.00 | Roxport | when you're muted, you can still communicate with admin |
| 08:24.08 | Death_Barrel | yeah i know |
| 08:24.22 | Death_Barrel | i didn't say the C word |
| 08:24.28 | Roxport | ok, sorry then i apologize |
| 08:24.31 | Death_Barrel | np |
| 08:25.29 | Roxport | i don't run cheat server, that's for sure |
| 08:26.08 | Death_Barrel | ok thats good |
| 08:26.32 | Roxport | ok, later then. |
| 08:26.43 | Mr_Molez | u fixed it so we can shoot ? |
| 08:26.50 | Mr_Molez | ohh, u took it down ? i cant connect |
| 08:27.02 | Roxport | i don't know why you couldn't shoot. thats odd. |
| 08:27.24 | Roxport | yeah, someone got on there and send spam filth messages |
| 08:27.34 | Roxport | plus i am getting tired anyways |
| 08:27.40 | Mr_Molez | oh, ok |
| 08:27.52 | Roxport | you're saying you couldn't shoot? |
| 08:28.06 | Death_Barrel | we could shoot |
| 08:28.06 | Mr_Molez | nah, shots just went through |
| 08:28.11 | Roxport | oh |
| 08:28.28 | Death_Barrel | but everyone on blue team could not kill anyone |
| 08:28.34 | Roxport | odd |
| 08:28.38 | Death_Barrel | we could get killed, but not kill anyone |
| 08:28.47 | Mr_Molez | yeh, same with me |
| 08:28.52 | Roxport | could it have been me fiddling with shotSpeed and tankSpeed? |
| 08:28.56 | Death_Barrel | yeah everyone on blue team |
| 08:29.01 | Roxport | you were the first blue team join tonight |
| 08:29.07 | Mr_Molez | not sure, dont think so |
| 08:29.40 | Death_Barrel | running on windoz? |
| 08:29.51 | Roxport | client is, but not server. server running on debian box |
| 08:30.05 | Roxport | i mean when i play, it's on winxp laptop |
| 08:30.25 | Roxport | i mean the client. server always on debian box with nothing else running on it. |
| 08:30.29 | Roxport | no X server, etc. |
| 08:30.38 | Death_Barrel | hmmm |
| 08:31.04 | Death_Barrel | was add though cause i was on red team first and same thing |
| 08:31.14 | Death_Barrel | couldn't kill |
| 08:31.15 | Roxport | we had been playing for an hour, green red and purple with no problems at all. |
| 08:31.28 | Death_Barrel | then i switched to blue and same thing |
| 08:31.48 | Roxport | that's odd yeah. i've had 10+ people on rogue team, free-for-all, with no problems. very robust |
| 08:32.03 | Roxport | in fact comments from others about how smooth it runs |
| 08:32.07 | Death_Barrel | lag wasn't bad though |
| 08:32.24 | Death_Barrel | lag was all around low when i looked |
| 08:32.35 | Death_Barrel | only 2 people over 120ms |
| 08:32.53 | Death_Barrel | thats why i asked if it was a cheat server |
| 08:32.54 | Roxport | yes |
| 08:33.01 | Roxport | oh |
| 08:33.12 | Roxport | they were just random people who jumped in |
| 08:33.23 | Death_Barrel | yeah |
| 08:33.27 | Roxport | one guy from california, other from canada |
| 08:34.16 | Mr_Molez | Death_Barrel: night |
| 08:34.26 | Death_Barrel | Mr_Molez, cya homie G |
| 08:34.31 | Death_Barrel | night Roxport |
| 08:34.41 | Roxport | ok, later all |
| 08:34.58 | Mr_Molez | cu rox |
| 08:35.37 | Death_Barrel | ~juneabeckatundis |
| 08:35.39 | ibot | from memory, juneabeckatundis is someone who farts in the bath tub and tries to bite the bubbles |
| 08:35.45 | Death_Barrel | hehe |
| 08:35.48 | Mr_Molez | heh |
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| 12:26.58 | Birdie | http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?t=6024 |
| 12:27.00 | Birdie | boo.. |
| 12:27.29 | Birdie | http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?t=3604 |
| 12:27.31 | Birdie | and boo |
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| 17:05.31 | conanhome | ~proxs |
| 17:05.41 | conanhome | ~dub |
| 17:06.17 | orange | brlcad: got some comments on the logging wiki |
| 17:06.56 | orange | ping me when you're around to discuss |
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| 17:58.35 | menotume | logging wiki ? DTRemenak have any comments ? |
| 17:58.36 | menotume | :P |
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| 18:04.00 | ruskie | [GrokLaw] "GPLv3 Guidelines Released" -> http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20051130113132858 |
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| 18:35.06 | JeffM2501 | wow, only 12 hours for somone to notice that post counts were removed :) |
| 18:36.16 | Thumper_ | who cares about post counts anyway... |
| 18:36.18 | Thumper_ | :) |
| 18:38.25 | gsnedders | is my post count above 1? |
| 18:38.33 | gsnedders | or did all my posts get deleted? |
| 18:38.33 | gsnedders | :P |
| 18:40.35 | JeffM2501 | ohh no, I just removed the post count number from posts |
| 18:40.40 | JeffM2501 | I didn't remove posts |
| 18:40.59 | JeffM2501 | well other then normal prune |
| 18:41.13 | JeffM2501 | yeah you will still see your own post count in your profile |
| 18:41.20 | JeffM2501 | I felt it was a fair compromise |
| 18:42.21 | gsnedders | JeffM2501: I knew what I meant |
| 18:42.30 | JeffM2501 | heh |
| 18:43.54 | SportyGal | JeffM2501: ping |
| 18:43.59 | JeffM2501 | ? |
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| 18:55.38 | blast007 | http://www.theonion.com/content/node/43029 |
| 18:58.54 | Grumbler | well there goes any sense of accomplishment i have....and i was close to 500 |
| 19:28.17 | JeffM2501 | you still have your rank :) |
| 19:28.21 | JeffM2501 | they are shown |
| 19:28.23 | JeffM2501 | just not the number |
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| 19:48.16 | SilentSwan | kill me |
| 19:50.41 | Pimpi | ~bzfrag SilentSwan |
| 19:50.43 | ibot | ACTION tries to kill SilentSwan, but finds the shield flag |
| 19:50.50 | Pimpi | no chance |
| 19:53.15 | SilentSwan | damn |
| 19:58.15 | Grumbler | how about just a severe wounding |
| 19:59.46 | SilentSwan | no, severe wounding may lead to death, but only over time. |
| 20:00.58 | Grumbler | probably, but it would get you into a hospital for a period of time....things might look better after the holidays |
| 20:01.05 | DTRemenak | hehe :) |
| 20:01.57 | Grumbler | in an odd coincidence, party shuffle pops up Sweet Dreams by the eurythmics |
| 20:09.06 | Grumbler | possible illegal |
| 20:14.30 | SilentSwan | everything's illegal |
| 20:14.34 | SilentSwan | pick your poison |
| 20:15.58 | Grumbler | adds music industry executives to the list including politicians and lawyers |
| 20:16.24 | SilentSwan | and movie industry, while you're at it |
| 20:16.39 | SilentSwan | my list is longer than your list :P |
| 20:17.29 | Grumbler | probably, does yours include spammers? |
| 20:17.35 | SilentSwan | of course |
| 20:18.08 | Grumbler | little old ladies who drive 15mph in a 50mph zone? |
| 20:18.11 | SilentSwan | retail establishments, large corporations, banks, law enforcement, starbucks, etc... |
| 20:18.14 | SilentSwan | oh yeah, that too |
| 20:18.24 | SilentSwan | SUV drivers |
| 20:18.27 | SilentSwan | cell phones |
| 20:18.37 | Grumbler | cell phone executives |
| 20:18.48 | SilentSwan | anyone as bitter and miserable as me must have a very long list indeed. |
| 20:19.13 | Grumbler | wow, you and JeffM2501 have a lot in common ;) |
| 20:19.17 | SilentSwan | hehe |
| 20:32.34 | orange | I drive my SUV while talking on my cell phone. |
| 20:33.56 | SilentSwan | do you have a 'W' sticker on your SUV? |
| 20:34.12 | orange | and I'm a lawyer who lobbies politicians for the music industry |
| 20:34.22 | SilentSwan | haha |
| 20:38.03 | orange | I do have an SUV, though, but I tow heavy stuff fairly regularly, and a minivan just wouldn't handle some of what I wanted. Of course, I work at home, so my personal consumption of gasoline is probably far less than many people who drive small cars but commute 20-30 miles a day. |
| 20:39.49 | orange | we all make lifestyle choices... knee-jerk reactions to SUV's being evil are just as bad as assuming that anyone who works for CNN is a liberal |
| 20:39.58 | JeffM2501 | huh who what where? for how many cookies? |
| 20:40.05 | SilentSwan | i'd assume they're conservatives |
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| 20:40.24 | SilentSwan | if you have a legit use for one, that's one thing. if you drive one just to be "special", that's quite another matter. |
| 20:40.26 | SilentSwan | anyway, afk |
| 20:40.27 | orange | right, and either way it's an uninformed and probably ungrounded assumption |
| 20:41.17 | orange | well, I feel special too |
| 20:41.32 | orange | but I'm an orange... that makes me fairly special anyway |
| 20:50.48 | orange | for the gas mileage or so you'll be "special"? :-) |
| 20:56.00 | JeffM2501 | I think they look cool |
| 20:56.11 | JeffM2501 | and they get decent gas milage |
| 20:56.24 | JeffM2501 | I don't like to drive big cars |
| 20:56.25 | JeffM2501 | to hard to manuver |
| 20:56.47 | JeffM2501 | my friend has a nissan armada, that thing is a beast to drive |
| 20:57.13 | JeffM2501 | I'd love to get a Honda Today, if they were legal in the US |
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| 21:08.27 | Thumper_ | JeffM2501: I want to trap server messages in a plugin |
| 21:08.39 | Thumper_ | should that be a new event or can I add it to the existing chat message plugin? |
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| 21:12.53 | JeffM2501 | I'd make it a new one |
| 21:12.59 | JeffM2501 | chat is from users |
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| 21:13.05 | JeffM2501 | server messages are from servers |
| 21:13.55 | JeffM2501 | and women are from venus |
| 21:14.46 | Thumper_ | That what I thought... since I didn't want to break any existing stuff that might use the user chat events |
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| 22:03.29 | SilentSwan | bleh |
| 22:04.49 | JeffM2501 | helb |
| 22:07.01 | SilentSwan | do you think it's worth going from sysadmin into software devel. these days? |
| 22:07.09 | SilentSwan | i started out doing both |
| 22:07.35 | SilentSwan | sadly, i've not kept current on the software side |
| 22:07.37 | JeffM2501 | there are not many programers coming out of schools |
| 22:07.39 | JeffM2501 | the need is higher |
| 22:07.42 | JeffM2501 | many went to IT |
| 22:07.51 | JeffM2501 | and there are a lot of IT people out there |
| 22:08.03 | JeffM2501 | we have a hard time finding good programers, ones that can realy program |
| 22:08.15 | JeffM2501 | not ones that got CS deg, by learning how to use office |
| 22:08.16 | SilentSwan | hmm |
| 22:08.30 | SilentSwan | i just don't see it really... |
| 22:08.35 | JeffM2501 | if you know how to program, then picking up the current languages and stuff is easy |
| 22:08.37 | SilentSwan | IT jobs as a whole, that is |
| 22:08.41 | SilentSwan | true |
| 22:08.57 | JeffM2501 | IT is flooded ( at least out here ) |
| 22:09.05 | SilentSwan | everywhere |
| 22:09.21 | JeffM2501 | here we pay well for good programers |
| 22:09.22 | SilentSwan | considering that most of the jobs themselves no longer exist in this country |
| 22:09.33 | SilentSwan | i would hesitate to say that i'm "good" |
| 22:09.34 | JeffM2501 | and you get to acualy think, and not deal with customers :) |
| 22:09.42 | SilentSwan | i know my way around, but i've been out of the loop |
| 22:10.02 | JeffM2501 | as long as you can think like a programer, and break problems down into little steps |
| 22:10.09 | SilentSwan | trouble is just getting a foot in the door is near impossible |
| 22:10.11 | JeffM2501 | the rest is just language |
| 22:10.16 | JeffM2501 | language is the easy part |
| 22:10.19 | SilentSwan | yes |
| 22:10.28 | JeffM2501 | yeah you may have to start smaller |
| 22:10.29 | JeffM2501 | and move up |
| 22:10.41 | SilentSwan | there is no "smaller" |
| 22:10.51 | JeffM2501 | yes there is |
| 22:10.53 | JeffM2501 | testing |
| 22:10.59 | JeffM2501 | QA |
| 22:11.07 | SilentSwan | hmm |
| 22:11.28 | JeffM2501 | I've known people who go from qa to dev |
| 22:11.32 | SilentSwan | never thought of QA as development |
| 22:11.35 | JeffM2501 | they get trained in the product in qa |
| 22:11.39 | SilentSwan | true |
| 22:11.44 | JeffM2501 | ohh yeah qa and dev are very related |
| 22:11.52 | JeffM2501 | qa tells dev what they did wrong :) |
| 22:11.57 | SilentSwan | i never finished my degree... now that's starting to matter where it didn't used to |
| 22:12.11 | JeffM2501 | depends on your field |
| 22:12.18 | JeffM2501 | for DBA stuff, yeah you want a degree |
| 22:13.16 | JeffM2501 | for others, practiale knowledge can be better |
| 22:13.24 | JeffM2501 | many compayns have been burned by people with a degree |
| 22:13.26 | JeffM2501 | but can't program |
| 22:13.29 | SilentSwan | i've worked in a software company... often wondered how some people could even get the job |
| 22:13.40 | JeffM2501 | hell I don't have a degree |
| 22:14.08 | JeffM2501 | yeah, there are people who have a degree in computer science, and don't know ANY programing languages |
| 22:14.16 | JeffM2501 | we employ one |
| 22:14.23 | SilentSwan | i stopped pursuing it because a) lack of time, b) i wanted out of IT |
| 22:14.42 | JeffM2501 | if you become a developer, then IT has to work for you :) |
| 22:15.16 | JeffM2501 | qa work can inovle some IT type work, seting up hardware, and stuff, but it's IT for you, not IT for others |
| 22:15.19 | JeffM2501 | so it can be not as bad |
| 22:15.42 | SilentSwan | sysadmin is not for me anymore... |
| 22:15.56 | SilentSwan | i should've gone to dev at my last job when it was offered |
| 22:17.02 | JeffM2501 | it's very difrent |
| 22:17.15 | JeffM2501 | much less customer related stress |
| 22:17.29 | JeffM2501 | but a lot more problem solving and design ( depending on what you do ) |
| 22:17.41 | JeffM2501 | but some parts of it can be mind boglingly booring |
| 22:17.42 | SilentSwan | i used to have a very elitist view as a sysadmin... |
| 22:17.45 | JeffM2501 | or frustrating |
| 22:17.58 | JeffM2501 | legacy code will become your bane |
| 22:18.01 | SilentSwan | the BOFH attitude took over heh |
| 22:18.13 | SilentSwan | i don't know what i want to do |
| 22:18.29 | SilentSwan | i've a lot of decisions to make |
| 22:18.53 | SilentSwan | sadly, 80% of them are made for me |
| 22:20.46 | bdotson | you can always go to iraq as a contractor |
| 22:20.49 | bdotson | (heh) |
| 22:21.04 | SilentSwan | grr |
| 22:21.10 | bdotson | if you don't get shot, you can make some serious money |
| 22:21.16 | SilentSwan | *GRR* |
| 22:21.24 | bdotson | it guys make about $11k/month out there |
| 22:21.26 | bdotson | IT |
| 22:21.33 | SilentSwan | *GROWL* |
| 22:21.35 | JeffM2501 | if you could write MTM posts our compy would hire you in a hearbreat |
| 22:22.02 | bdotson | that's 11k without tax too |
| 22:22.14 | SilentSwan | if i go there, it'll be to shoot contractors |
| 22:22.26 | brlcad | sore for good coders here big time |
| 22:22.33 | SilentSwan | where is "here"? |
| 22:22.58 | JeffM2501 | the land of mery |
| 22:23.01 | brlcad | some place you don't really want to know about because you're two bitter and disgruntled |
| 22:23.05 | brlcad | ;) |
| 22:23.09 | SilentSwan | ohhh |
| 22:23.12 | SilentSwan | oh yeah |
| 22:23.15 | SilentSwan | i know where "here" is |
| 22:23.18 | SilentSwan | no thanks |
| 22:23.30 | JeffM2501 | it's been hard to find people with real programing knowledge |
| 22:23.59 | JeffM2501 | see what you do, is set up the pay to play bzflag system |
| 22:24.03 | SilentSwan | maybe i'll just open up a cafe |
| 22:24.05 | JeffM2501 | and live off the profit |
| 22:24.09 | SilentSwan | hah |
| 22:24.14 | SilentSwan | i can't get anyone to play for FREE |
| 22:24.24 | JeffM2501 | you have to find a "thing" |
| 22:24.42 | SilentSwan | cafe/bookstore |
| 22:24.49 | SilentSwan | catering to nerdy art types |
| 22:24.53 | brlcad | I could actually work on bz full time |
| 22:24.54 | SilentSwan | my kind of place |
| 22:25.13 | JeffM2501 | mmmmm cookies |
| 22:25.14 | brlcad | the pitch was already sold, kinda funny |
| 22:25.31 | JeffM2501 | making it a sim for your stuff brlcad ? |
| 22:26.04 | brlcad | I haven't really decided if that's what I want to do yet, if that's a direction I want to go |
| 22:26.11 | brlcad | especially with everything going on in brl-cad |
| 22:26.18 | SilentSwan | but.. if i do that, i'll have the likes of Borders, Barnes & Nobooks, and Starbucks to compete with |
| 22:26.43 | JeffM2501 | SilentSwan, if you had a good internet prescnce, comps in the store and stuff you would do better |
| 22:26.48 | brlcad | but yeah, the basic idea that makes it a really easy sell is that it's in the same vein as america's army |
| 22:26.51 | brlcad | yet it's free |
| 22:27.02 | JeffM2501 | brlcad, what is going on with brlcad ? |
| 22:27.07 | JeffM2501 | it ok as a project? |
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| 22:27.25 | JeffM2501 | and would they not want to use a real engine for an AA type thing? not what we have now? |
| 22:27.27 | brlcad | aa is riddled with politics and requires big funding to get a dev seat |
| 22:27.47 | brlcad | the bz interest is unrelated to brl-cad stuff |
| 22:27.52 | JeffM2501 | ahh |
| 22:27.56 | brlcad | which is the only main reason I haven't ran with it |
| 22:28.05 | JeffM2501 | how is brlcad doing? |
| 22:28.09 | SilentSwan | AA makes me physically ill |
| 22:28.15 | brlcad | brl-cad's doing great |
| 22:28.32 | brlcad | hard to keep up with all the activity really |
| 22:28.40 | brlcad | and still actually write code |
| 22:29.26 | brlcad | which is one of the main reasons the windows binary isn't posted.. can't support the surge of new users that will bring |
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| 22:31.19 | JeffM2501 | heh |
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| 22:31.50 | SilentSwan | so, if you shoot up civilians in AA, do you get bonus points like you apparently do in real life? |
| 22:32.09 | JeffM2501 | I don't think it has civys |
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| 22:32.19 | JeffM2501 | tho I'd bet there is a mod for it |
| 22:32.45 | RPG_ | lol |
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| 22:33.53 | SilentSwan | oops, did i ... strike a nerve? |
| 22:34.06 | SilentSwan | i'm good at that, it seems |
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| 22:34.26 | JeffM2501 | naw, he rows a lot |
| 22:35.03 | SilentSwan | row as relative to boats? or as in getting into brawls? |
| 22:35.10 | JeffM2501 | boats |
| 22:35.18 | JeffM2501 | splishy splashy |
| 22:36.46 | SilentSwan | in decent weather, anyway |
| 22:36.54 | JeffM2501 | I so very much wish I had the time and motivation to work on OpenCombat :( |
| 22:38.16 | RPG_ | it sounded like a great idea |
| 22:38.21 | JeffM2501 | it did |
| 22:38.27 | JeffM2501 | I can still see it in my head |
| 22:38.33 | RPG_ | then battlefield 2 came out |
| 22:38.41 | JeffM2501 | it has some similaritys yes |
| 22:38.47 | JeffM2501 | tho difrent setting |
| 22:39.06 | JeffM2501 | they are all expansions of tribes 2 |
| 22:39.11 | RPG_ | the only FPS i know of that you can use different "vehicles" to your advantage is BF2 |
| 22:39.13 | RPG_ | and i love that game |
| 22:39.23 | JeffM2501 | tribes 1 and 2 |
| 22:39.25 | JeffM2501 | UT |
| 22:39.29 | JeffM2501 | there are a number of them |
| 22:39.52 | JeffM2501 | heck even quake4 has vehicles now |
| 22:40.02 | JeffM2501 | planetside |
| 22:40.25 | JeffM2501 | realy open combat is an expansion of planetside |
| 22:40.25 | RPG_ | as long as opencombat doesn't use Shader 1.4 :) |
| 22:40.34 | JeffM2501 | OC dosnt' even have an engine |
| 22:40.43 | RPG_ | oh? |
| 22:40.44 | JeffM2501 | it just has a lot of words on paper |
| 22:43.55 | RPG_ | how far is it? |
| 22:43.59 | RPG_ | i.e. progress |
| 22:44.33 | JeffM2501 | the words on paper |
| 22:44.40 | JeffM2501 | and some bad code |
| 22:45.05 | JeffM2501 | so 0.24963% |
| 22:51.02 | JeffM2501 | basicly it ain't gonna have noithing til it has an engine |
| 23:11.32 | menotume | Halo - diff vehicles |
| 23:11.39 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 23:11.49 | JeffM2501 | tho it's all about the warthog |
| 23:11.54 | menotume | :) |
| 23:12.12 | RPG_ | i can't play FPS's on console systems |
| 23:12.12 | JeffM2501 | the front bumper = best weapon in game |
| 23:12.17 | JeffM2501 | so play it on the PC |
| 23:12.19 | menotume | lol |
| 23:12.22 | RPG_ | thats what i do |
| 23:12.33 | RPG_ | it's soo hard to aim on consoles |
| 23:12.41 | JeffM2501 | not once you get used to it |
| 23:12.49 | JeffM2501 | you get analog movment on the consoles too |
| 23:12.52 | menotume | adjust your mouse settings :P |
| 23:13.07 | JeffM2501 | I'll play PC FPSs with a gamepad often |
| 23:13.13 | JeffM2501 | just to get analogish movment |
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| 23:49.40 | brlcad | SilentSwan: heh generally takes a lot to strike one of my nerves, you didn't even cause a slight tingle |
| 23:50.06 | Tupone | hi brlcad |
| 23:50.07 | brlcad | and I just broke a pb for 2k! woo hoo |
| 23:50.15 | brlcad | howdy tupone |
| 23:50.16 | Tupone | pb ? |
| 23:50.26 | brlcad | personal best |
| 23:50.31 | Tupone | ahh :) |
| 23:50.46 | Tupone | today ? |
| 23:51.20 | JeffM2501 | what's a good name for all the stuff in a scene that can move and be controlled |
| 23:51.29 | JeffM2501 | aka stuff that ISN"T map |
| 23:55.05 | brlcad | example? |
| 23:55.14 | brlcad | Tupone: yep, today .. just a lil bit ago |
| 23:55.22 | Tupone | great |
| 23:55.29 | brlcad | yeah, i'm psyched |
| 23:55.48 | JeffM2501 | example is like tanks, and shots |
| 23:56.35 | brlcad | maybe have a Moveable and Controllable virtual class? :) |
| 23:56.53 | JeffM2501 | just need a name for the group of them |
| 23:57.16 | brlcad | MoveableAndControllable? (i'm being a big help i know ;) |
| 23:57.16 | JeffM2501 | there behavors will be deteremend by other classes down the line |
| 23:57.20 | JeffM2501 | heh |
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| 23:57.39 | JeffM2501 | I thought of the term "actors' |
| 23:57.41 | JeffM2501 | or "cast" |
| 23:57.42 | brlcad | Articulatable |
| 23:57.55 | brlcad | or Articulatd |
| 23:58.06 | Tupone | cannot write today ? |
| 23:58.23 | brlcad | something like that :0 |
| 23:58.50 | brlcad | brain doesn't have control of my arms and fingers again just yet |
| 23:59.03 | Tupone | row things ? |
| 23:59.09 | orchid | governable |
| 23:59.15 | Tupone | hi orchid :) |
| 23:59.24 | JeffM2501 | but what would a group of them be called |
| 23:59.24 | orchid | ciao Tupone |
| 23:59.41 | Tupone | that is controllable |