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17:35.16*** join/#bzflag ibot (i=ibot@pdpc/supporter/active/TimRiker/bot/apt)
17:35.16*** topic/#bzflag is http://BZFlag.org/ || http://my.BZFlag.org/bb/ || http://my.BZFlag.org/ || http://cia.navi.cx/stats/project/BZFlag || http://BZFlag.org/wiki/GettingHelp || http://BZFlag.org/wiki/Download || #bzchat for casual chat || paste to http://bzflag.pastebin.ca || CVS HEAD is now 2.1 unstable, commit stable to v2_0branch
17:35.16*** mode/#bzflag [+o ibot] by ChanServ
17:35.22cosmoswe had over 20 yesterday
17:35.30cosmosthen it goes down.  its more like a match server
17:35.53conanhomeah, you and hepcat observing
17:36.03ToughShootercosmos: That really sounds like happy con crappy :)
17:36.28ToughShooter(he's perm banned at secretplace AFAIK)
17:36.43conanhomecosmos: i can't play matchs, i have no team still
17:36.43cosmoshappy con what
17:36.53cosmosyou dont need a team to play
17:37.02cosmosjust join green or red
17:37.30Aribethhe goes by your pappy happy con crappy
17:37.32ToughShootercosmos: well, whatever he's refering to with his "callsign"
17:37.49cosmoswell ill be scanning the logs and HappyConBanning his behind
17:37.56Aribethor variations on that
17:38.17ToughShooter'ban them all :)
17:44.40Aribeth~bzquery bzflag.sleepycows.us:6155
17:44.50*** join/#bzflag Pimpinella (n=frank@p54818402.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)
17:44.59ToughShooterAribeth: It was ~bzfquery
17:45.09Aribeth~bzfquery bzflag.sleepycows.us:6155
17:45.12Aribethtkx
17:45.29Aribethhummm...my server is broked
17:45.34ToughShooter~say I'm awake
17:45.35ibotI'm awake
17:45.47ruskielol
17:46.07Aribethname resolution failure
17:46.25Aribethsounds like the isp's dns server is broked
17:53.32menotume~dnslookup bzflag.sleepycows.us
17:54.13menotumeahh
17:54.13Aribethhumm
17:54.19menotume~dnslookup bzleague.com
17:54.28menotumeyup.
17:54.50menotume~dnslookup sleepycows.us
17:55.33Aribethim looking into it now
17:55.58ToughShootermenotume: Hi
17:57.07ToughShooter~dnslookup sleepycows.org
17:57.22cosmos~bzfquery tuxsux.hepcat.org:5154
18:02.23Aribethits working now
18:04.14Aribeth~bzfquery bzflag.sleepycows.us:6155
18:05.47Aribethsleepycows.org is registered with a different isp
18:06.19JeffM2501yeah.. I'm looking to the sky to save me.. Looking for a sign of life...Looking for something help me burn out bright...  I’m looking for a complication....  Looking cos I’m tired of lying ...  Make my way back home ... When I learn to fly
18:08.03Aribeth~bzfquery bzflag.sleepycows.us:6155
18:08.44Aribeththats odd
18:14.19jpa-maybe someone h4x0red it :)
18:14.50Aribethna, im ssh'd in
18:15.05Aribethand i can join the server
18:15.06*** join/#bzflag Keesje (n=jaja@ip54570c79.direct-adsl.nl)
18:15.13*** part/#bzflag Keesje (n=jaja@ip54570c79.direct-adsl.nl)
18:16.09ToughShooter~bzfquery bzflag.sleepycows.us:6155
18:16.19ToughShooter:)
18:16.20Aribethahh
18:16.30Aribeththats me
18:18.26jpa-~lame SX-28
18:18.27ibotSX-28 is completely not lame.
18:18.34jpa-:(
18:18.36Aribethlol
18:18.44Aribeth~lart jpa-
18:18.54jpa-for what?
18:19.32Aribethjpa-, for saying my name was lame
18:19.48Aribethyou may ask
18:20.04Aribethjpa-, google sx-28
18:20.17*** join/#bzflag TheRedBaron (n=les@fl-71-0-160-69.dyn.sprint-hsd.net)
18:22.47SilentSwana radio?
18:23.04SilentSwanjeez, that thing looks like some of the stuff my friend has...
18:26.17conanhomenice playing on hepcat
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18:26.50*** mode/#bzflag [+v Tupone] by ChanServ
18:27.37conanhome~bzfquery dub.bzflag.org
18:29.22TheRedBaron~dub5156
18:29.48TheRedBaronconanhome: there are, or were 2 different ports for the public dub servers
18:30.05conanhomeTheRedBaron: cool, you don't need the query stuff, nor even the complete hostname
18:30.13TheRedBaronback when they were extremely popular
18:32.42conanhome~silvercat
18:32.44TheRedBaronconanhome: somebody coded a shortuc in
18:32.57TheRedBaron*shortcut
18:33.14conanhomeTheRedBaron: cause they were popular ;)
18:33.29conanhomei still miss silvercat
18:33.59SportChick~silvergu
18:34.00TheRedBaronappears that it is still up.
18:34.20conanhomeSportChick: ?
18:34.45conanhomeTheRedBaron: yeah but i can't join, somebody banned an ip range
18:35.11Aribeththe sx-28 is Hallicrafters best shortwave radio for the 1940's
18:35.25TheRedBaronconanhome: i am a silvercat admin
18:35.36conanhomeTheRedBaron: then unban me!
18:35.45TheRedBaronI need the ip range first
18:36.26conanhomeTheRedBaron: 190.48.48.76
18:36.37conanhomeTheRedBaron: i got inside the range
18:36.50JeffM2501SilentSwan, radio would be the only way to get data to and from a rocket :)
18:37.02SportChickconanhome?
18:37.11conanhomeSportChick: ?
18:37.16SportChickyes?
18:37.20SportChickyou called me - why?
18:37.47TheRedBarontoughshooter are you going to remedy that or?
18:37.52conanhomeSportChick: ah, ... yea, i was first, no i didn't realize that silvergu exists
18:38.28conanhomeTheRedBaron: the question is, when mi ip change by night or maybe in half an hour, i'm gonna get banned again?
18:38.30SportChick~literal silvergu
18:38.31ibot"silvergu" is "<reply> see bzfquery silvercat.tybox.net:5159"
18:39.08conanhome~literal silvercat
18:39.09ibot"silvercat" is "<reply> see bzfquery silvercat.tybox.net"
18:39.12TheRedBaronconanahome: whitelist.
18:39.22conanhomeTheRedBaron: lets see :)
18:39.23ToughShooterconanhome: Doesn't look like it was your ip :/
18:40.04conanhomeToughShooter: oh... you mean i have some other kind of problem?
18:40.44TheRedBaronconanhome: what is the message that you get when you try to join silvercat?
18:40.46ToughShooterconanhome: May be hostbanned
18:41.39conanhomei get a simple "Error connecting to server." nothing more
18:42.13conanhomesilvercat is this: 68.185.29.18 ??
18:42.36TheRedBaronIIRC if you are banned by IP, it would let you know that.  you get a message saying you've been banned.
18:42.58ToughShooternot necessarily
18:43.18TheRedBaronoh?
18:43.38ToughShooterbut neither the IP-address nor the hostinfo of it seems to be banned
18:43.41conanhomeTheRedBaron: well i don't get a banned message, but i think it could be that, i was especulating
18:44.59ToughShooterTry to play with a fresh new profile. If it doesn't work again, you might be banned by silver's firewall
18:45.40ToughShooterin that case you should ask silverfox directly (I don't know whether jomojo could help in that case)
18:46.42conanhomelets try...
18:47.02BearPerson~ping
18:47.03ibotpong
18:47.08conanhomeToughShooter: oh... wait a minute, but the profile has nothing to do if i use bzadmin, hasn't?
18:47.16jpa-Aribeth: how do you give them?
18:47.45Aribethvery carefully :P
18:47.57ToughShooterconanhome: yeah, it should not
18:48.03TheRedBaronconanhome: you can try to contact silverfox here  http://silvercat.bzleague.com/
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18:48.38*** part/#bzflag RedBaron2 (n=Owner@fl-71-0-160-69.dyn.sprint-hsd.net)
18:50.12Aribeth~lame jpa-
18:50.14ibotjpa- is completely not lame.
18:50.19Aribethheh
18:51.15conanhomeTheRedBaron, ToughShooter thanks
18:53.50BearPerson~lame lame
18:53.51ibotlame is completely not lame.
18:54.12ToughShooterLooks like being based on randomness
18:54.28Aribeth!lame foo
18:54.29GuuAribeth: Tai-kong suo-yo duh shing-chiouh doh sai-jin wuh duh pee-go
18:54.40Aribeth~lame foo
18:54.41ibotfoo is completely not lame.
18:54.47Aribethheh
18:54.57Aribeth~lame gjfl;dfjd
18:54.58ibotUgh, gjfl;dfjd's aura of lame is affecting me!
18:55.05Aribethlol
18:59.30*** join/#bzflag Birdie (n=Birdie__@d54C34DE9.access.telenet.be)
19:02.09BearPerson~lame 1337
19:02.10ibotUgh, 1337's aura of lame is affecting me!
19:02.30BearPerson~lame 14|\/|3
19:02.32ibotUgh, 14|\/|3's aura of lame is affecting me!
19:02.49BearPerson~lame foobar
19:02.50ibotfoobar is completely not lame.
19:03.44ToughShooterit was so nice when ibot wasn't here :/
19:04.14BearPersonhehe
19:07.15Aribethwhy does jpa- ask for it? i'll never know :P
19:07.45jpa-?
19:08.13Aribethim always larting you for something :P
19:09.46jpa-usually without any good reason
19:10.01jpa-it really hurts my feelings to get larted all the time :(
19:10.11Aribethaww, im sorry
19:11.00TheRedBaron~lart jpa-
19:11.04Aribethi really don't mean anything by it
19:11.13jpa-i know
19:11.27jpa-ok i don't really have any feelings
19:11.31jpa-so it is just the same
19:11.48Aribethno its not
19:14.32Aribeth~jpa-++
19:15.23SilentSwangroup hug time?
19:15.59Aribethya
19:16.41SilentSwannow... commence the tickling
19:16.59SilentSwanhaha
19:17.04SilentSwanmy luck, eh?
19:17.36jpa-shouldn't we be on #bzchat so these log-reading devs wouldn't complain? :)
19:20.08SilentSwanprobably
19:20.22SilentSwani'm usually there but no one ever talks
19:20.26jpa-it is only up to aribeth :)
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19:21.19Aribethsure
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19:23.59SportChickbrb
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19:42.18BirdieJeffM2501 ping
19:42.34Birdieand TimRiker a ping to actually
19:42.38Birdie(both for bots)
19:46.14SportyGalTimRiker: pingaling
19:53.48*** join/#bzflag BenUrban (n=benurban@68.50.155.230)
19:58.43SportyGalTimRiker: if you pong, please pong SportChick instead
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20:02.23*** mode/#bzflag [+o purple_cow] by ChanServ
20:25.09JeffM2501Birdie, ?
20:25.25CIA-2BZFlag: 03timriker * 10bzflag/ (configure.ac include/network.h): GNU/kFreeBSD support from Petr.Salinger@t-systems.cz
20:25.51TimRikerSportChick: pong
20:26.01JeffM2501guu join #icf
20:26.04JeffM2501guu flush
20:26.07GuuJeffM2501: okay
20:30.17Ice_WeweAribeth: ping
20:30.56Aribethpong a ping
20:31.09Ice_WeweAribeth: :D
20:31.17Aribethwhats up?
20:31.45conanhome~dub
20:31.46Ice_WeweAribeth: nothing much, working on my mom's iBook, there may be a case of HDD corruption... >.<
20:31.57Aribethahh
20:32.09SportChickhi tim
20:32.21conanhome~dub5156
20:32.58ToughShooterconanhome: You can message ibot directly, too :)
20:34.43*** join/#bzflag Ice_Wewe (n=Ice_Wewe@ppp-216-106-101-182.storm.ca)
20:35.22Ice_WeweAribeth: blah..... updated xchat settings.
20:35.49Aribethoh
20:37.19Aribethwhat did you buy?
20:37.26blast007used socks?
20:37.26JeffM2501nothing
20:37.39JeffM2501no that would be a REAL thing
20:37.42Aribetheww blast007
20:37.56JeffM2501I just spend 50$ to have a field in a database changed
20:37.59blast007:)
20:38.04blast007ick
20:38.11Aribethouch
20:38.12TimRikerI'll sell ya a GM flag for less.
20:38.20Aribethlol
20:38.22Ice_WeweTimRiker: ;)
20:38.43JeffM2501heh
20:38.51JeffM2501chracter move in Eq2
20:39.14AribethEq2?
20:39.20JeffM2501Everquest 2
20:39.33Aribethi was just gona say that
20:40.09JeffM2501all my friends moved servers
20:40.18TimRikerwe need an "admin give foo a GM flag" then admins can sell flags on ebay. should support a shot limit so they can keep it longer (if they stay living)
20:40.18JeffM2501and I don't want to go thru a betrayal again
20:40.29JeffM2501so it's 50$ to move morty over to the new server
20:40.48Aribethahh
20:41.08Aribethso who runs servers in ev2
20:41.20JeffM2501sony
20:41.45Aribethso individuals cant run servers
20:41.51JeffM2501oh god no
20:41.54TimRikermy friend jeffp works on that team. he's the guy that created subspace.
20:41.58JeffM2501MMORPG
20:42.04JeffM2501TimRiker, I know
20:42.08Aribethahh
20:42.15JeffM2501Aribeth, this is subscription pay to play stuff
20:42.19TimRikerJeffM2501: yep. just a side note for observers.
20:42.24Aribethi thought so
20:42.36JeffM2501TimRiker, he doing the cosmic rift thing there?
20:42.43JeffM2501or get moved to another dept?
20:43.05TimRikerI've not talked to him about work lately. don't know which piece he's working on now.
20:43.17JeffM2501sony has many many games
20:45.06*** join/#bzflag Ice_Wewe (n=Ice_Wewe@ppp-216-106-101-182.storm.ca)
20:45.10trepanTimRiker: /flag give <player> <flag> exists
20:46.10Ice_WeweAribeth: Doh! I meant to go to prefs, but instead I went to disconnect server! (how stupid can I get? No comments JeffM2501!)
20:46.33Aribethhehe, can i comment :P
20:46.38Ice_WeweAribeth: maybe....
20:47.02TimRikertrepan: sweet. now someone write a plugin that ties it to a database so the player can request the flag as long as they have paid for it.
20:47.02Aribeth~lame Ice_Wewe
20:47.04ibotIce_Wewe is completely not lame.
20:47.13Aribethaww
20:47.17Aribeth:P
20:47.22TimRiker~nickometer Ice_Wewe
20:47.35Ice_WeweTimRiker: haha!
20:48.07Aribethme thinks the nickometer is broked :P
20:48.27Aribethooooooo
20:48.30Ice_Wewefist that is (hehe)
20:48.41Aribethoooooooo
20:49.31Ice_WeweAribeth: what, you were thinking something else? (you sick minded person!!!)
20:49.52Aribethhemmm
20:50.34Aribethsomething weird about the nick Ice_Wewe
20:50.40Ice_Wewe*drool*
20:50.50Aribethneed i explain?
20:50.56Ice_WeweAribeth: nope....
20:51.19Aribethhas to do with the color of snow
20:51.19Aribeth:P
20:52.01Ice_WeweAribeth: of course... I made it up! (You all saw it! Patent pending, patent pending, patent pending...)
20:52.12Aribethlol
20:52.24Ice_WeweAribeth: http://www.ibiblio.org/Dave/Dr-Fun/df9405/df940519.jpg
20:52.41Ice_WeweAribeth: http://www.ibiblio.org/Dave/Dr-Fun/df9405/df940520.jpg
20:52.53Ice_WeweAribeth: http://www.ibiblio.org/Dave/Dr-Fun/df9405/df940518.jpg
20:53.26Ice_WeweAribeth: lol
20:53.36Aribetherr......
20:53.42Ice_WeweAribeth: http://www.poundart.com/art/mad/mad_camel.jpg
20:54.38Aribethheh
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20:59.44Crazy_CoraIce_Wewe, dosn't seem that funny to me
21:00.02Ice_WeweCrazy_Cora is now known as Whako Jacko
21:00.20Crazy_Coraok
21:00.28Crazy_Cora~lart Ice_Wewe
21:00.38Crazy_Coraooooo
21:00.50Ice_Wewe~frag Crazy_Cora
21:00.52ibotACTION readies the nuke launcher and fires some rounds at Crazy_Cora
21:00.54Ice_Wewe~bzfrag Crazy_Cora
21:00.56ibotACTION makes Crazy_Cora feel the effects of a shockwave
21:01.00Ice_Wewe~kill Crazy_Cora
21:01.01ibotACTION shoots a excited anti-electron gun at Crazy_Cora
21:01.07Ice_Wewe~nuke Crazy_Cora
21:01.08ibotACTION prepares 100 missle silos, and targets them at Crazy_Cora ... BOOM!
21:01.44Crazy_Corahrmmm
21:02.14Crazy_Cora~lart Ice_Wewe
21:02.47Ice_Wewe~whaleslap Crazy_Cora
21:02.48ibotI'll just grab a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh and slap Crazy_Cora over the head with it.....
21:02.51Crazy_Coraall that because i didnt fint the cartoons funny
21:02.58Crazy_Corafind
21:03.01Ice_Wewe~hit Crazy_Cora
21:03.02ibotACTION punches Crazy_Cora.
21:03.23Ice_Wewe~install Crazy_Cora
21:03.33Ice_Wewe~Windows Crazy_Cora
21:03.37Ice_Wewehmmmm
21:03.45Crazy_Coraof corse you know this means war!
21:03.52JeffM2501ok kids
21:03.54JeffM2501lay off the bot
21:03.57Ice_WeweTimRiker: you need to program some horrible thing to happen when someone says ~Windows <insert victim>
21:03.59JeffM2501or take it to botpark
21:04.07Crazy_CoraIce_Wewe grow up
21:04.25JeffM2501he's a munchkin kid
21:04.29Crazy_Coraya
21:04.35Ice_WeweCrazy_Cora: Nasty!
21:04.36JeffM2501only time and the world kicking his butt will make him grow up
21:04.48Crazy_Coratrue
21:05.13Crazy_Coraone or two larts is ok, but to keep it up is wrong
21:05.26JeffM2501he dosn't know when to quit
21:05.29JeffM2501like most munchkins
21:05.32Crazy_Coranope
21:05.49Crazy_Corathe cartoons were not really funny
21:05.57JeffM2501nope
21:06.18Crazy_Coralooked like munchkin humor and thats not funny
21:06.26Crazy_Coraits sad
21:06.29JeffM2501well let him go
21:06.33Crazy_Corayep
21:06.39JeffM2501he's just wanting the attention
21:06.54Crazy_Corayep
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21:14.38FlareYo DB
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21:18.30*** topic/#bzflag is http://BZFlag.org/ || http://my.BZFlag.org/bb/ || http://my.BZFlag.org/ || http://cia.navi.cx/stats/project/BZFlag || http://BZFlag.org/wiki/GettingHelp || http://BZFlag.org/wiki/Download || #bzchat for casual chat || paste to http://bzflag.pastebin.ca || CVS HEAD is now 2.1 unstable, commit stable to v2_0branch
21:18.30*** mode/#bzflag [+o ibot] by ChanServ
21:18.38AlliedArmourit says my pass is wrong
21:18.47JeffM2501did you register that name on IRC?
21:18.48CBGIRC?
21:18.59JeffM2501this is NOT tied to the bzflag reg system
21:19.02AlliedArmourahh, no i havent
21:19.03JeffM2501in any way shape or form
21:19.06AlliedArmourhow do I?
21:19.16JeffM2501/msg nickserv help
21:19.19CBG<PROTECTED>
21:19.25CBGheh..
21:19.36JeffM2501IRC is run by freenode, not the bzflag project
21:19.45AlliedArmouri see, thanx
21:20.10*** join/#bzflag Epix (n=chatzill@toronto-HSE-ppp3963234.sympatico.ca)
21:20.13JeffM2501you are just using the lame web IRC inteface we have
21:20.15*** join/#bzflag TD-Linux (n=TD-Linux@24-159-197-101.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com)
21:20.43Epixbzflag.lookscool = very yes
21:20.48AlliedArmourwhat's another interface?
21:20.52CBGhehe Epix.
21:20.54JeffM2501a real IRC client
21:20.59CBGAlliedArmour: download a Client. :)
21:21.07EpixAlliedArmour: using firefox?
21:21.09JeffM2501xchat is a big on one many OSs
21:21.15EpixAlliedArmour: if so, google for Chatzilla
21:21.20JeffM2501tha'ts another
21:21.33EpixCBG: err. thats bzflag.lookscool = "very yes"
21:21.41AlliedArmourI'm using IE at the mo
21:21.48AlliedArmourcan I use Gaim?
21:21.53JeffM2501you can
21:21.58JeffM2501but it kinda sucks
21:22.01CBGheh Epix... I wasn't sure... what language is that?
21:22.09AlliedArmouryou mean the IRC part of Gaim?
21:22.12JeffM2501yeah
21:22.17AlliedArmourahh
21:22.18EpixAlliedArmour: then get firefox. Its worth the download, saves your computer from so many things.
21:22.29EpixCBG: anything OO
21:22.35AlliedArmourdoes it have integrated IRC?
21:22.35CBGW00t, Brower wars!
21:22.43JeffM2501you can get the chatzilla plugin
21:22.44CBGEpix, thats not HTML or CSS for a start. ;)
21:22.48AlliedArmourahh
21:22.51JeffM2501firefox is just generaly better then IE for most things
21:22.55EpixAlliedArmour: if you get chatzilla then yes.
21:23.01AlliedArmourK, I'll get that
21:23.34EpixCBG: <blink><marquee><h1>ZOMGBZFLAGROXXXXXORZZZZZ!!!!!!!!!!1111ONEONEONE</h1></marquee></blink
21:24.02CBGEpix, how old is that code? :P
21:24.16EpixJeffM2501: i just like being able to type irc://irc.freenode.net/bzflag and come here
21:24.20EpixCBG: :P
21:24.35JeffM2501I'm sure you do
21:24.45JeffM2501I like clicking a button and having it come here
21:24.59CBGHmm, I would like that..
21:25.15CBGBut colloquys only problem is that it takes a minute or 3 to open. :/
21:25.43Epixdoes bzflag have a ded server that doesnt need no Xness
21:26.06JeffM2501ded?
21:26.11TimRikerded? bzflag servers (bzfs) don't need X or any gui.
21:26.39AlliedArmourcanI recover a lost pass?
21:26.49JeffM2501it's not even interactive
21:27.21AlliedArmourI cant remember my pass for here
21:27.23Epixded = denicated
21:27.28JeffM2501did you ever register it?
21:27.31AlliedArmouryes
21:27.35AlliedArmourI certainly did
21:27.50Epix<PROTECTED>
21:27.58EpixAlliedArmour:  ^
21:28.01JeffM2501Epix, all bzfs servers are dedicated
21:28.07EpixJeffM2501: ok
21:28.08JeffM2501the in game menu just calls the bzfs for you
21:28.28JeffM2501AlliedArmour, you can also contact the network admins
21:28.32Epixhm. i think i should download this so called 'bzflag' :P
21:28.47JeffM2501ohh joy, another one of those people
21:29.07EpixI have an old version, before 2.0
21:29.13AlliedArmourI dont think I'll bother
21:29.20AlliedArmourjust stay unreged
21:30.13Epixw
21:30.19Epixwrong window.
21:30.29blast007~ww
21:30.30ibotWrong window, you fool!
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21:31.39Epixheh
21:31.53EpixI missed the PuTTY window.
21:32.39TimRikerJeffM2501: by the way. jeffp says he's working on ps3 stuff now with a bit of psp.
21:32.59JeffM2501ahh
21:33.02JeffM2501console land
21:33.11JeffM2501very difrent :)
21:33.20JeffM2501ask him to open source SubSpace :)
21:33.26CBGwho needs consoles when you have bzflag on your iBook? :/
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21:33.33AlliedArmouraha
21:33.43JeffM2501hey joel, how's it going
21:33.47AlliedArmourhehe
21:33.49AlliedArmourFine
21:34.02AlliedArmourhow do i fix it?
21:34.09JeffM2501fix what?
21:34.18AlliedArmourmy name :P
21:34.27AlliedArmourit's not meant to be public :D
21:34.29JeffM2501that usualy invovles a judge
21:34.33AlliedArmourLOL!
21:34.36JeffM2501you change it in gaim
21:34.42AlliedArmourahh
21:35.28blast007it's too late, we all know now
21:35.32AlliedArmourhehe
21:35.34blast007;)
21:35.35AlliedArmour-_-
21:35.45AlliedArmourhow do I change it in Gaim, cant find it
21:35.52JeffM2501read it's manual
21:35.59JeffM2501we arn't gaim experts
21:36.02AlliedArmourI'll look
21:36.13AlliedArmourthought you might be :D
21:36.21blast007I keep away from Gaim
21:36.25AlliedArmourhehe, why
21:36.32blast007cuz I only use IRC
21:36.37JeffM2501it is a realy crapy IRC client
21:37.03AlliedArmourbetter?
21:37.12JeffM2501you'd have to relog
21:37.16AlliedArmourahh, brb
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21:37.54blast007he's still connected  ;)
21:38.03JeffM2501he'll live
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21:38.36AlliedArmourfixed?
21:38.44JeffM2501yeah
21:38.48blast007yup, show AlliedAr now
21:38.50JeffM2501* AlliedArmour (n=AlliedAr@69.158.119.189) has joined #BZFlag
21:38.51AlliedArmourthanx ;)
21:38.59AlliedArmouraha
21:39.05AlliedArmourpreeshaydit
21:39.49AlliedArmouris there any way to tell who is actually in the room?
21:39.57JeffM2501yeah
21:39.59JeffM2501channel list
21:40.06CBGThere is no member list obvious?
21:40.09JeffM2501if you had a real IRC client you'd be looking at it
21:40.13JeffM2501not in GAIM
21:40.16AlliedArmouroh yes, but most seem to be dead
21:40.20JeffM2501like I said, it sucks
21:40.24JeffM2501as an IRC client
21:40.29JeffM2501it was made for one on one chats, not rooms
21:40.36AlliedArmourI have a people in room list but they seem to be away
21:40.45JeffM2501just means they are idle
21:40.51JeffM2501not eveyrone speaks
21:41.18CBGsome I have never seen speak. :) I guess they are only here for the CIA thing..?
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21:42.04blast007CBG: a lot of the time I'm here just for logging  ;)
21:42.11AlliedArmourwhat do you log?
21:42.17blast007the...chat
21:42.25AlliedArmourawww, obvious :P
21:42.26CBGA log is a cut down tree, or part of one.
21:42.30AlliedArmourI see
21:42.33CBG:)
21:42.40AlliedArmournever heard that definition before. apart from barking
21:42.43*** mode/#bzflag [+v Erroneous] by ChanServ
21:43.30AlliedArmourErroneous, do you know DTRemenak?
21:44.06JeffM2501Erroneous and dtremenak fight all the time
21:44.11AlliedArmourahhh
21:44.13JeffM2501like to the death it seems
21:44.30JeffM2501I thing he's just mad when he steals his food
21:44.36AlliedArmourthat makes sense
21:45.18AlliedArmourwell, i guess I'll shove off now. having got the info i wanted
21:45.25CBGErroneous is an imposter!! o.O
21:45.34CBGcya AlliedArmour
21:45.40AlliedArmourcyall
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21:46.13Erroneousmmm, pie
21:46.47JeffM2501Erroneous, know any rocket scientists?
21:47.13Erroneousyup
21:47.22Erroneousneed one for something?
21:47.28JeffM2501a rocket :)
21:47.47JeffM2501well mostly ,how to get data to and from said thing
21:47.51JeffM2501as it streaks skyward
21:48.33JeffM2501it has a future?
21:48.46CBG2.1.0 atleast?
21:49.00JeffM2501what about it?
21:49.18CBGrockets, sending...
21:49.29ErroneousJeffM2501: http://media.armadilloaerospace.com/misc/telemetry.htm
21:49.57JeffM2501this is why I love me some dtremenak :)
21:50.15JeffM2501CBG, I never said anything about bzflag
21:50.35JeffM2501packet radio, that's the term I was looking for
21:50.41CBGTrue, true... It is #bzflag, but that means nothing too? :P
21:51.16JeffM2501depends on the time of the day
21:51.22JeffM2501and what other convos are going on :)
21:51.29CBGHehe.
21:51.45JeffM2501hmm still looks like HAM is recomended
21:51.47JeffM2501for the power
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21:52.24Erroneousyup
21:52.47Erroneousheh
21:52.54Erroneousget a license, it's not that difficult
21:53.03JeffM2501yeah was reading on it, not that hard
21:53.04JeffM2501just tests
21:53.08JeffM2501need to build an engine first
21:54.28JeffM2501the rocket certification would be the harder part :)
21:54.59Erroneousheh :)
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22:42.15TheNationalisti see in the changelog in bzflag version 2.0.0 that anti-cheat mechanisms have been added. can anyone explain to me what those are?
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22:45.47TheNationalistnevermind, i see the entire changelog
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23:22.01AlliedArmouri have a question
23:22.15AlliedArmouranyone here?
23:22.19Thumper_no
23:22.23AlliedArmourahh, tanks
23:22.34AlliedArmourthis is a q for server owners
23:23.23Thumper_~ask
23:23.27ibotQuestions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise and on-topic. Don't ask if you can ask a question first. Better questions more frequently yield better answers. Remember, we're all volunteers. Please don't /msg people without permission. See also http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
23:23.42AlliedArmouri'm trying to setup a purblic server, with groups and such. i have SETPERMS under LOCAL.ADMIN but whenver i type in the pass and try /setgroup - it says /SETGROUP is disabled
23:23.59*** join/#bzflag JeffM2501 (n=JeffM@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/JeffM2501)
23:23.59Thumper_for setgroup you need a userdb
23:23.59*** mode/#bzflag [+o JeffM2501] by ChanServ
23:24.01AlliedArmourbtw, i was just finding out if a server owner was on
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23:24.12AlliedArmoura userdb?
23:24.13Thumper_well I guess I count
23:24.26Thumper_since 30 of the servers in the list are mine
23:24.34AlliedArmourhehe, yeah
23:24.50AlliedArmourk, i didnt see userdb. what goes in it?
23:24.54Thumper_you need a userdb for setgroup to work
23:25.01Thumper_it's just an empty file initially
23:25.04AlliedArmourk
23:25.55AlliedArmourbrb, testing
23:25.57Thumper_-userdb userdbfilenamegoeshere
23:26.14Thumper_as a param to the bzfs server on the commandline or in the config
23:26.45Thumper_evening JeffM2501
23:28.05AlliedArmourback
23:28.11AlliedArmourit's working now. thanx so much
23:28.20Thumper_I have about 10 minutes...
23:28.33Thumper_wlcm
23:29.08AlliedArmourhow do i allow people to register on my server?
23:29.16Thumper_you need a passdb
23:29.23AlliedArmourahh, thanx
23:29.24AlliedArmourbrb
23:29.29Thumper_I personally don't like local registration
23:29.34Thumper_global is better
23:29.36CBGWhy not use global registration?
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23:29.59Thumper_I don't run with a userdb or passdb currently
23:30.12Thumper_just use global registration and global groups
23:31.48Thumper_anyone know what the purpose of the bzadmin ping message is that bzadmin sends when it exits?
23:32.07Thumper_it seems to be a private message from myself to myself
23:32.09Thumper_2005-11-28T23:30:44Z MSG-DIRECT 8:Thumper_ 8:Thumper_ bzadminping
23:32.40Thumper_is that actually used/useful for something?
23:33.33AlliedArmourbck
23:33.44AlliedArmourthanx, its working :D
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23:37.36AlliedArmouranother, how do i use the public user server?
23:38.25Tuponerephrase
23:38.31CBG"piblic user server" ?
23:38.43AlliedArmourHow do i make my server use the BZBB user registerations?
23:38.52CBGglobal registration?
23:38.58AlliedArmouryes, that's it
23:39.02Tuponeyou have to do nothing
23:39.09Tuponeif that is public
23:39.22AlliedArmourwhat if i have a userdb?
23:39.35JeffM2501just don't have a passdb
23:39.39JeffM2501and it'll global auth
23:39.40CBGRequest groups for your mods/admins on the bb or from jeff here and add your mods and admins to that.
23:39.41Tuponeyou can give user more privileges
23:39.46AlliedArmourok, how did Met do it?
23:39.53JeffM2501you can still have a userdb and global auth
23:40.06AlliedArmouri meant passdbv
23:40.16CBGAnd make the group-permissions file like normal but change the groups you are giving permissions to to match those you have had made on the bb.
23:40.21JeffM2501if you want global auth, you don't want a passdb
23:40.21AlliedArmourmet made it so that he could have his own users and the public ones
23:40.32JeffM2501if you have a passdb then /identify will be enabled, and you don't want that
23:40.37AlliedArmourwell, i'll just do that ,thanx
23:40.42JeffM2501mixing is not worth it
23:40.48JeffM2501it cna be done, but it gets confusing
23:41.05AlliedArmourhow do i make myself a admin @ my server without entering pass?
23:41.05JeffM2501local passwords are bad
23:41.15JeffM2501the simplest is with a group
23:41.21JeffM2501or add the ADMIN group to your user in your userdb
23:41.25AlliedArmouri've got a LOCAL.ADMIN group
23:41.29AlliedArmourand a ADMIN
23:41.36AlliedArmourLOCAL.ADMIN can shutdown the server
23:41.36JeffM2501in your userDB
23:41.43JeffM2501for your name
23:41.46JeffM2501add the admin group
23:41.47AlliedArmourk, i'll try thanx
23:41.54JeffM2501but don't have a passdb
23:42.00JeffM2501then the server will use global to auth you
23:42.09JeffM2501and use your local user info
23:42.13JeffM2501for your admin perms
23:42.35JeffM2501or get a global admin group made, addyourself to it and give that group admin powers
23:42.55AlliedArmourI added this to my userdb:
23:42.55AlliedArmourALLIEDARMOUR
23:42.55AlliedArmourLOCAL.ADMIN
23:42.55AlliedArmourand it doesnt do it
23:42.59AlliedArmourwhat did I do wrong?
23:43.13JeffM2501you still have a passdb?
23:43.20AlliedArmourno, i took it out of my conf file
23:43.33JeffM2501what perms does local.admin have in your group db?
23:43.35AlliedArmourall
23:43.51JeffM2501do you get a + by your name when you join the server?
23:43.54AlliedArmourno
23:44.00JeffM2501then your not authing
23:44.11JeffM2501you get any messages in the chat box?
23:44.24AlliedArmourno
23:45.00JeffM2501take out your userdb and see if you get a +
23:45.05AlliedArmourl, brb
23:45.46AlliedArmournope, took me out and still no +
23:45.59JeffM2501is your server public?
23:46.08bdotsonhey guys. i'd like to thank you for an excelent game
23:46.10AlliedArmouryes - not running now
23:46.17AlliedArmourrun it
23:46.18AlliedArmour?
23:46.29JeffM2501does it list on the list server?
23:46.32AlliedArmouryes
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23:46.43AlliedArmouryou mean the in-game or my.bzflag.org?
23:46.56JeffM2501and you have your username and password in the client correct
23:47.00AlliedArmouryes
23:47.12JeffM2501then somthing is messing up your auth
23:47.22AlliedArmourcould it be a firewall thing?
23:47.32AlliedArmourdoes the listserver use a special port?
23:47.33JeffM2501what is your server address?
23:47.38JeffM2501no, port 80
23:47.40AlliedArmourbene.hopto.org:5158
23:47.55JeffM2501is it running now?
23:48.02AlliedArmourahh, i only have 5158 allowed thru the FW
23:48.08AlliedArmourwill that stop it?
23:48.11JeffM2501that's all you need IN
23:48.17AlliedArmouri have a router uc
23:48.22AlliedArmourit's running
23:48.25JeffM2501the list server is out
23:48.27JeffM2501you should auth
23:48.38JeffM2501you SURE your username and password is right?
23:48.50AlliedArmouryes, not even a "-" comes next to my name
23:49.10JeffM2501then your server can't auth for some reson
23:49.11JeffM2501wierd
23:49.15JeffM2501what version?
23:49.18AlliedArmour2.0.2
23:49.25JeffM2501why so old?
23:49.28AlliedArmourtesting something...
23:49.30AlliedArmourbrb
23:49.46AlliedArmourback
23:50.06AlliedArmourthe only port allowed from my ip under the router is 5158. do i need 80 as well?
23:50.17JeffM2501no
23:50.29AlliedArmourso all i need is 5158? all the rest blocked?
23:50.33JeffM2501the 5158 is for incoming trafic
23:50.36Thumper_JeffM2501: If we wanted a plugin to prevent Rogues from using the Geno flag... we could add 2 events (FlagGrab and FlagDrop) and have a function that drops a flag right?
23:50.39JeffM2501you just need port 80 out
23:50.47JeffM2501if you list on the list server then it's working
23:50.57AlliedArmourk, ya i have that
23:51.07JeffM2501Thumper_, yeah I guess
23:51.07AlliedArmourthis is strange
23:51.12JeffM2501there is a zap flag
23:51.36AlliedArmourcould someone try join so i see what happens to them?
23:52.23Thumper_bz_removePlayerFlag
23:52.41JeffM2501is that what it's called?
23:52.48Thumper_that'll do what I want... now I just need to know when the flag is picked up
23:52.55Thumper_yes :)
23:52.58Thumper_according to the docs
23:53.02JeffM2501ok
23:53.11JeffM2501yeah a flag pickup would be cool
23:53.25JeffM2501could be cool to have the event set what the returned flag REALY is too :)
23:53.29Thumper_flag pickup and drop (not sure if drop is useful for anything but...)
23:53.31JeffM2501then you could make it turn into another flag
23:53.34JeffM2501on pickup
23:53.41Thumper_I'd love to change Geno to Useless for Rogue
23:53.48JeffM2501maybe you can
23:53.50Thumper_then we don't need RogueGenocide
23:53.58Thumper_plugin anymore to deal with that
23:54.09JeffM2501have the event called before the packet is sent out, and have it's return modify the flag type
23:54.10AlliedArmourdoes it have anything to do with my group permissions?
23:54.24JeffM2501AlliedArmour, no, you arn't even geting passed basic auth
23:54.29AlliedArmourk
23:54.33JeffM2501Thumper_, just like the spawn stuff does
23:54.38Thumper_more plugin events - yippee :)
23:55.25Thumper_JeffM2501: just like the spawn stuff ??
23:55.32Thumper_JeffM2501: you can't change spawn location
23:55.52*** part/#bzflag AlliedArmour (n=AlliedAr@69.158.119.189)
23:55.53JeffM2501yes you can
23:56.00JeffM2501that's the entire POINT of the event :)
23:56.13JeffM2501if you change the data in the struct that is passed in, the server will use that new value
23:56.18JeffM2501tha'ts how airspawn works
23:56.19Thumper_hmmm I thought I read something else just recently
23:57.35JeffM2501look at airspawn
23:58.02Thumper_ok
23:58.20JeffM2501there are a number of evetns that let the plugin mod the data
23:58.28JeffM2501like the list server update one
23:59.13Thumper_yes - I just thought I read something else

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