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| 00:30.57 | cosmos | so i advertise some ram on craigslist, guy asks if it will work in his pc, i tell him the specs he writes back and curses me out for not being specific to his pc model |
| 00:31.20 | ruskie | rotfl |
| 00:34.21 | cosmos | PC2100 ECC 1GB Memory $30 each |
| 00:34.22 | cosmos | Western Digital 120GB EIDE Hard Drive $25 |
| 00:34.29 | cosmos | is that too hard to understand? |
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| 00:44.45 | ruskie | no |
| 00:44.48 | ruskie | hmmm |
| 00:44.56 | ruskie | no real use for that ram |
| 00:45.00 | ruskie | the hdd would be usefull |
| 00:45.09 | ruskie | and cheap... so first question comes to mind... what's broken |
| 00:45.14 | cosmos | nothing |
| 00:45.19 | cosmos | its just sitting here doing nothing |
| 00:45.24 | ruskie | so use it? |
| 00:45.26 | cosmos | im cleaning out my workspace |
| 00:45.30 | cosmos | i dont use pc equipment |
| 00:45.35 | ruskie | erm |
| 00:45.56 | ruskie | then you what... chat with some abstract computer? |
| 00:46.02 | cosmos | ive got just under 2 terabytes of netapp space at home |
| 00:46.13 | cosmos | i have an sgi workstation |
| 00:46.16 | cosmos | some suns |
| 00:46.26 | ruskie | and they don't use ide? |
| 00:46.29 | ruskie | to bad... |
| 00:46.33 | cosmos | of course not |
| 00:46.47 | cosmos | anyhow its not being used. |
| 00:46.49 | ruskie | yeah that would mean they are interoperable with stuff... |
| 00:46.55 | ruskie | can't have that :) |
| 00:47.17 | cosmos | they are all interoperable with each other and thats good enough for me |
| 00:47.28 | ruskie | :) |
| 00:47.33 | ruskie | well I'm off to bed |
| 00:47.35 | ruskie | so have fun |
| 00:47.35 | cosmos | and i centralize all my storage anyhow |
| 00:47.37 | cosmos | later |
| 00:57.22 | SilentSwan | _bubbles_ are you there? |
| 01:01.27 | SilentSwan | guess not |
| 01:01.37 | cosmos | heh |
| 01:02.46 | SilentSwan | just reading the slashdot article about recruiting IT students and the lack of people interested in the field. |
| 01:02.53 | SilentSwan | the comments pretty well sum it up |
| 01:03.21 | SilentSwan | unless your name is Apu and you live in Bangalore, don't even bother |
| 01:05.02 | bryjen | ~dict apu |
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| 01:08.09 | cosmos | heh |
| 01:08.19 | cosmos | silentswan is a charming young woman! |
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| 01:32.18 | Ice_Wewe | cosmos: :D |
| 01:32.55 | Ice_Wewe | cosmos: Young?! *sits up straighter, slicks hair* |
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| 01:34.14 | bz3925 | can some1 help me?! |
| 01:34.25 | bz3925 | i dont know how to get to the game |
| 01:34.50 | bz3925 | can ny1 help? |
| 01:35.18 | learner | probably not if you're impatient ;) |
| 01:35.26 | bz3925 | sorry |
| 01:35.46 | learner | you can't get to the game yet you mysteriously found the irc channel for the game.. |
| 01:35.56 | bz3925 | where at? |
| 01:36.12 | Ice_Wewe | learner: how can you find the IRC channel and not know how to find the game? |
| 01:36.13 | bz3925 | Where do i start the game? |
| 01:36.16 | Ice_Wewe | bz3925: bzflag.org |
| 01:36.24 | bz3925 | on help |
| 01:36.28 | Ice_Wewe | bz3925: you double click on the application |
| 01:36.29 | bz3925 | ok thanks |
| 01:36.31 | Ice_Wewe | bz3925: dua |
| 01:36.43 | bz3925 | www.bzflag.org |
| 01:36.54 | learner | bz3925, have you downloaded the game yet? |
| 01:36.58 | Ice_Wewe | bz3925: no dua Sherlock Holmes |
| 01:37.48 | Ice_Wewe | ~bzfrag learner |
| 01:37.49 | ibot | ACTION squishes learner with a steamroller |
| 01:37.57 | learner | one thing to ask them questions that perhaps points out idiocy, it's another thingentirely to call them an idiot ;) |
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| 01:38.48 | Ice_Wewe | ~knife learner |
| 01:38.57 | Ice_Wewe | *dang* |
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| 01:41.07 | SilentSwan | the Queen B*tch is back... phear ;) |
| 01:41.16 | Ice_Wewe | as I was saying to cosmos, SilentSwan is a Young woman?! |
| 01:41.23 | SilentSwan | young? |
| 01:41.30 | SilentSwan | i remember "young" |
| 01:41.32 | learner | there's no problem making it clear that they haven't thought things through even if it's seemingly blatently obvious, just don't need to be arrogant about it while you do it -- gives the channel a bad reputation |
| 01:42.02 | bryjen | hotel soap? |
| 01:42.06 | Ice_Wewe | hehe |
| 01:42.06 | SilentSwan | uh oh... did i miss some fun? |
| 01:42.08 | learner | young is a state of mind |
| 01:42.15 | Ice_Wewe | SilentSwan: no, not really |
| 01:42.21 | learner | bryjen, only the finest |
| 01:42.44 | Ice_Wewe | SilentSwan: just learner beating me up ;) |
| 01:42.53 | SilentSwan | aw, i missed it? *cry* |
| 01:42.58 | SilentSwan | :) |
| 01:43.04 | learner | nothing special |
| 01:43.42 | SilentSwan | I'm old enough to know better, but still young enough to do it anyway |
| 01:43.47 | Ice_Wewe | SilentSwan: yea, that soap box part was the best |
| 01:44.22 | learner | i've just had that same very conversation about arrogance in channels and mailing lists for the third time this month |
| 01:44.46 | SilentSwan | i don't really see a lot of that here, which surprises me |
| 01:44.58 | SilentSwan | there are a few exceptions, mainly from one person in particualr, though |
| 01:45.15 | learner | it's on purpose |
| 01:45.17 | Ice_Wewe | SilentSwan: and that would be me I presume? |
| 01:45.29 | SilentSwan | i've been on and off IRC for near a decade and ahve seen *vastly* worse :) |
| 01:45.32 | SilentSwan | Ice_Wewe no |
| 01:45.40 | learner | the arrogance/rudeness is almost always uncalled for |
| 01:45.45 | SilentSwan | exactly |
| 01:45.48 | learner | yes, it can be horrible in some places |
| 01:46.03 | SilentSwan | and you know, it's just because they're behind a keyboard... they'd never say it to your face |
| 01:46.13 | learner | just try asking a simple question in ##c for example .. there are a couple particular regulars that are just jackasses |
| 01:46.24 | SilentSwan | at least not to mine anyway, as i have this nasty tendency of.. you know... snapping :) |
| 01:46.32 | learner | they wouldn't, they'd get punched real quick or totally blown off |
| 01:46.44 | SilentSwan | yep |
| 01:47.18 | learner | the find they possess a little bit a knowledge that is empowering to them |
| 01:47.19 | Ice_Wewe | it doesn't seem so bad in ##c... |
| 01:47.20 | SilentSwan | so i'm having the holiday dinner thing with my friend's family tomorrow :) woohoo! |
| 01:47.32 | SilentSwan | i can put off eating my mother's cooking for another day :) |
| 01:47.52 | Ice_Wewe | SilentSwan: so you're still living with parents? that doesn't seem like you're very old |
| 01:47.56 | SilentSwan | no |
| 01:47.57 | SilentSwan | i'm not |
| 01:47.58 | learner | Ice_Wewe, it's not all the time -- depends who's there, who's responding, and what the question is |
| 01:48.04 | Ice_Wewe | SilentSwan: in fact, I'd put that in the 'young' catagory |
| 01:48.08 | learner | but several can attest to it |
| 01:48.18 | Ice_Wewe | SilentSwan: so they just live close by? sorta like Everyone Loves Raymond? |
| 01:48.29 | SilentSwan | well, dunno about that, but yes, close |
| 01:48.34 | learner | it might not be so bad any longer, the channel admins were spoken to about the problem after several incidents |
| 01:49.00 | Ice_Wewe | learner: wish I knew jack about C++, then I could ask a question without looking stupid (ok, haha, funny crack, but I think it maybe possible)... |
| 01:49.43 | SilentSwan | there's 2 of you? oh thank goodness. so it's not just me.. |
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| 01:50.22 | SilentSwan | aww :) |
| 01:51.52 | SilentSwan | that should take all night |
| 01:52.18 | SilentSwan | wow |
| 01:52.21 | SilentSwan | more than me |
| 01:53.23 | bryjen | anyone recommend a good LCD monitor? i just got this acer thing, and i'm not really happy with it :( |
| 01:53.23 | cosmos | note to self, i hate people! |
| 01:54.54 | SilentSwan | i'm still trying to find a "good" LCD monitor |
| 01:55.01 | SilentSwan | there's a few i like, but i'm not decided yet |
| 01:56.11 | SilentSwan | i need something large but with high res *and* good response time, so the choices are small and expensive |
| 01:57.12 | SilentSwan | Cosmos - i know that feeling all too well |
| 01:57.16 | SilentSwan | see my /whois :) |
| 01:57.27 | wizatcomputer | haha |
| 01:57.27 | wizatcomputer | nice |
| 01:57.30 | SilentSwan | heh |
| 01:57.30 | blast007 | hehehe |
| 01:57.38 | wizatcomputer | what's the command to see the version of all the clients? |
| 01:58.04 | wizatcomputer | erm |
| 01:58.04 | wizatcomputer | sorry |
| 01:58.05 | blast007 | that would be generally annoying to do... |
| 01:58.06 | wizatcomputer | bzflag |
| 01:58.08 | blast007 | oh |
| 01:58.12 | blast007 | lol |
| 01:58.17 | blast007 | /clientquery |
| 01:58.21 | wizatcomputer | SilentSwan: i have version reply (in xchat) turned off |
| 01:58.24 | wizatcomputer | ah |
| 01:58.25 | wizatcomputer | thanks |
| 01:58.27 | SilentSwan | i noticed :) |
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| 01:58.59 | blast007 | in my xchat client, I had the CTCP TIME reply "A flashing 12:00" |
| 01:59.08 | SilentSwan | hah |
| 01:59.10 | wizatcomputer | blast007: hahaha |
| 01:59.11 | wizatcomputer | nice |
| 01:59.16 | Ice_Wewe | SilentSwan: I have a Dell (been told the LCD is basically a Samsung,) it is 17" and has 12ms responce, runs at 1280 x 1024 |
| 01:59.31 | SilentSwan | yeah, that wouldn't even come close for me |
| 01:59.41 | Ice_Wewe | SilentSwan: but is that is to slow for her magisty |
| 01:59.47 | Ice_Wewe | SilentSwan: then what do you want? |
| 01:59.51 | SilentSwan | that's the trouble. unless you want to spend upwards of $600, you won't find anything |
| 01:59.54 | Ice_Wewe | SilentSwan: like a 19" or a 21"? |
| 01:59.55 | blast007 | bigger I would assume |
| 02:00.05 | SilentSwan | 17" is way too small and the res is no good |
| 02:00.06 | blast007 | 17" is small nowadays |
| 02:00.07 | Ice_Wewe | blast007: you'd be surprised how wonderful a 17" is |
| 02:00.24 | Ice_Wewe | SilentSwan: the res is fine! |
| 02:00.26 | SilentSwan | i like keeping LOTS of stuff open |
| 02:00.36 | Ice_Wewe | SilentSwan: ok... have multiple desktops |
| 02:00.37 | SilentSwan | besides, i do photo editing, so i need to be able to tile windows all over |
| 02:00.38 | blast007 | I have a 17" CRT, and another inch of the LCD wouldn't be enough of an upgrade for me |
| 02:01.11 | bryjen | a had a 17" CRT, then snap-crackle-pop.... |
| 02:01.20 | Ice_Wewe | SilentSwan: what do you use? I use Gimp.... |
| 02:01.25 | SilentSwan | ugh |
| 02:01.28 | Ice_Wewe | bryjen: hehe, broke? |
| 02:01.28 | SilentSwan | photoshop |
| 02:01.31 | SilentSwan | in a VM |
| 02:01.33 | Ice_Wewe | bryjen: I had mine do that on me |
| 02:01.47 | SilentSwan | actually, i'll put a kvm on it and switch back to the mac as required |
| 02:01.56 | Ice_Wewe | SilentSwan: uggg, PhotoShop?! Gimp.... |
| 02:02.01 | bryjen | fried. it was /only/ six years old |
| 02:02.10 | SilentSwan | gimp is useless for a photographer. sorry. |
| 02:02.13 | bryjen | vi! |
| 02:02.27 | Ice_Wewe | SilentSwan: my world is crushed! *Crushed!* |
| 02:02.51 | blast007 | I don't even like using The Gimp for anything... |
| 02:02.59 | SilentSwan | good heavens, you can't even get an image-window preview of things like their hack of a channel mixer |
| 02:03.04 | Ice_Wewe | blast007: do you use PhotoShop too? |
| 02:03.09 | blast007 | I'd rather take the time of getting Wine to run Photoshop than 5 mintues to install Gimp |
| 02:03.24 | blast007 | Ice_Wewe: yes, I do, and I like it :) |
| 02:03.45 | Ice_Wewe | but wait |
| 02:03.48 | SilentSwan | and levels.. oh... i use levels a lot on photoshop since i use a lot of b&w images... you cannot adjust according to the clipping levels on black or white with the levels tool in gimp |
| 02:03.50 | Ice_Wewe | why wont my linear work? |
| 02:04.03 | Ice_Wewe | physics |
| 02:04.03 | Ice_Wewe | name jump |
| 02:04.03 | Ice_Wewe | linear 0.0 0.0 35.0 |
| 02:04.03 | Ice_Wewe | end |
| 02:04.09 | Ice_Wewe | group tramp |
| 02:04.09 | Ice_Wewe | phydrv jump |
| 02:04.09 | Ice_Wewe | pos 0 0 0 |
| 02:04.09 | Ice_Wewe | scale 10 10 10 |
| 02:04.10 | Ice_Wewe | end |
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| 02:04.37 | Ice_Wewe | everything looks in order |
| 02:04.46 | Ice_Wewe | but when I jump on it, it does nothing |
| 02:04.48 | blast007 | http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?showtopic=462099 |
| 02:04.51 | SilentSwan | anyway, i need a shower. i probably smell bad or something. bbl |
| 02:09.20 | Ice_Wewe | ugg |
| 02:09.28 | I_Died_Once | gah, we finally get a radio station that worth a damn - and it don't come in worth a hoot |
| 02:09.43 | Ice_Wewe | hehe |
| 02:09.46 | Ice_Wewe | http://forums.xbox-scene.com/uploads/av-213079.gif |
| 02:09.49 | Ice_Wewe | check this out... |
| 02:10.22 | blast007 | the xbox 360 is going to do a 360 spin into the circular storage bin |
| 02:10.23 | I_Died_Once | my buddy at work posts there |
| 02:10.26 | I_Died_Once | no shit |
| 02:10.44 | I_Died_Once | he's supposed to be one of the main guys that mods xbox's |
| 02:11.20 | I_Died_Once | he sells modded xbox's left and right - he runs a variation of debian on them |
| 02:12.08 | I_Died_Once | If I can find a way to share them over the net to ya I will |
| 02:12.34 | I_Died_Once | I need to find a FTP server software & set it up |
| 02:12.37 | Ice_Wewe | I_Died_Once: I'll ship you my 160GB WD HDD, fill 'er up |
| 02:12.44 | cosmos | wow pillbox is jumping right now |
| 02:13.55 | I_Died_Once | it takes about 90 gigs of space |
| 02:14.14 | blast007 | someone was selling an AIM screen name on ebay for xbox 360 users, and they got $900 for it...it was sorta advertised as an actual system, and in little print said "xbox 360 not included" |
| 02:14.20 | Ice_Wewe | I_Died_Once: ok, that is a problem, I only have about 60 free... how we gonna work this? |
| 02:14.50 | wizatcomputer | blast007: some email address have gone for 1000+ |
| 02:14.54 | wizatcomputer | i bet it was the same thing |
| 02:14.58 | blast007 | :) |
| 02:15.09 | cosmos | heh |
| 02:15.25 | blast007 | I should buy an xbox just to sell it on ebay for like twice the price |
| 02:15.31 | cosmos | a friend of mine bought an sgi octane dual 400mhz, they shipped him an old compaq pc instead |
| 02:15.33 | blast007 | then buy two more, and do the same |
| 02:15.42 | cosmos | ebay never came through on fraud support either |
| 02:15.53 | blast007 | cosmos: well that sucks |
| 02:15.56 | Ice_Wewe | cosmos: Ouch! Not cool, I hope they got that guy good. |
| 02:16.44 | cosmos | ebay doenst care they get their money and thats all |
| 02:17.20 | blast007 | plus there's a monopoly in online auctions... |
| 02:17.39 | blast007 | they're* |
| 02:17.55 | Ice_Wewe | "Microshaft will be getting a call from me." |
| 02:18.44 | Ice_Wewe | Now why didn't I think of that? |
| 02:19.33 | Ice_Wewe | bah, that forum must be getting DoSed, cause it is taking _forever_ to load the page |
| 02:20.50 | blast007 | probably just swarmed with traffic ;) |
| 02:21.20 | Ice_Wewe | blast007: yea... Cannot believe Microscrap would do that |
| 02:21.32 | blast007 | I think it's funny as heck |
| 02:21.41 | blast007 | hope they have to recall them all |
| 02:22.00 | Ice_Wewe | blast007: hehe, and to think, they loose money on eveyone they sell |
| 02:22.12 | Ice_Wewe | Gah! what gives... I've never gotten one of these before! |
| 02:22.15 | blast007 | yup, saw that on slashdot |
| 02:22.17 | Ice_Wewe | The system returned: |
| 02:22.17 | Ice_Wewe | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:22.27 | Ice_Wewe | The remote host or network may be down. Please try the request again. |
| 02:22.27 | Ice_Wewe | Your cache administrator is webmaster. |
| 02:22.32 | Ice_Wewe | what the heck?! |
| 02:22.34 | blast007 | webserver out of threads? |
| 02:22.36 | Ice_Wewe | ^.o |
| 02:23.24 | blast007 | "Microsoft Loses $126 Per Unit on XBox 360" |
| 02:23.49 | blast007 | and the power brick is huge |
| 02:23.50 | Ice_Wewe | cool |
| 02:24.03 | Ice_Wewe | it was something like $100 for the normal one too, right? |
| 02:24.12 | Ice_Wewe | blast007: power brick? |
| 02:25.12 | wizatcomputer | yes |
| 02:25.15 | wizatcomputer | power brick |
| 02:25.19 | wizatcomputer | imagine a brick |
| 02:25.29 | wizatcomputer | that's what the power adapter looks like |
| 02:25.31 | wizatcomputer | literally |
| 02:25.32 | Ice_Wewe | wizatcomputer: a $400 brick... |
| 02:25.33 | wizatcomputer | except white |
| 02:25.38 | Ice_Wewe | hehe |
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| 02:25.53 | Ice_Wewe | Microcroft wont get a cent from me ever |
| 02:26.12 | wizatcomputer | Ice_Wewe: then buy as many 360s as you can |
| 02:26.24 | wizatcomputer | screws em more than if you compleatly boycot them |
| 02:26.52 | blast007 | someone put stickers on the power brick so it looked like the ghost catcher from Ghostbusters |
| 02:27.10 | Ice_Wewe | wizatcomputer: what?! why? Then I'd be inviting the devil into my house, and he'd be mooching too! |
| 02:27.12 | wizatcomputer | i'm going to try to get a bunch of the xboxs that people get rid of (friends, etc) and mod em |
| 02:27.17 | wizatcomputer | and have media centers in every room! |
| 02:27.18 | wizatcomputer | =) |
| 02:27.32 | wizatcomputer | Ice_Wewe: you invited the devil, but it costs him |
| 02:27.50 | wizatcomputer | toss linux on the devil (i bet it won't be long) |
| 02:27.57 | wizatcomputer | and then you've screwed the devil =p |
| 02:28.45 | blast007 | I'd rather get a PS3 and put linux on it |
| 02:28.53 | blast007 | native support |
| 02:30.18 | blast007 | "The integrated Cell processor will be able to support a variety of operating systems (such as Linux or Apple's Tiger)." |
| 02:33.01 | blast007 | http://x360smash.ytmnd.com/ |
| 02:33.44 | cosmos | sloth loves chunk! |
| 02:38.11 | Ice_Wewe | blast007: and the PS3 is gonna be how fast? (The xBox 360 has a PPC in it) |
| 02:39.01 | Ice_Wewe | hehe blast007 check this out... http://forums.xbox-scene.com/uploads/av-12021.jpg |
| 02:41.35 | blast007 | Ice_Wewe: put it this way...the PS3 has dual HDTV outputs |
| 02:41.52 | blast007 | GHz wise, they are both 3.2GHz |
| 02:42.47 | blast007 | the XBox uses 2.4GHz technology for their controllers...so I wonder if cordless phones will kill your controller ;) |
| 02:43.05 | blast007 | "Hang up the phone! I can steer the car!" |
| 02:43.10 | blast007 | can't* |
| 02:43.14 | Ice_Wewe | blast007: not to menchion, that is also the same freq as Laptop wireless |
| 02:43.19 | blast007 | yeah |
| 02:43.21 | Ice_Wewe | O.o |
| 02:43.27 | Ice_Wewe | to many things on the same band... |
| 02:43.38 | blast007 | only 4 controllers |
| 02:43.43 | Ice_Wewe | blast007: and why does having dual HDTV mean anything? |
| 02:43.48 | blast007 | the PS3 uses bluetooth, and supports 7 |
| 02:43.49 | Ice_Wewe | blast007: PS3, VGA? |
| 02:43.57 | Ice_Wewe | blast007: sweeetttttt *drool* |
| 02:43.58 | blast007 | no, two displays |
| 02:44.11 | Ice_Wewe | blast007: can you have VGA with it? |
| 02:44.16 | blast007 | don't know |
| 02:44.26 | Ice_Wewe | blast007: cause if you can't, it's worthless to me, gotta have my VGA ;) |
| 02:45.24 | blast007 | the PS2 had the linux kit with the VGA adapter |
| 02:46.59 | Ice_Wewe | blast007: I don't care about the PS2 *pats PC* I got something that can kick its can right here |
| 02:47.02 | blast007 | anyway, the XBox might be faster |
| 02:47.10 | blast007 | but I don't ever want one ;) |
| 02:49.53 | blast007 | Ice_Wewe: here's a good article about the specs: http://tinyurl.com/98kv4 |
| 02:49.55 | Ice_Wewe | blast007: A Microshaft product will never make it in this door *points to door frame* and if it does, it will be booted out with the force of 5 very angry Linux heads.... |
| 02:50.32 | cosmos | is that door the entrance to your parents basement? |
| 02:50.38 | blast007 | lol |
| 02:50.52 | cosmos | because thats where i find alot of linux users dwelling :) |
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| 02:51.13 | wizatmac | modding is fun |
| 02:54.44 | Ice_Wewe | blast007: http://smashmyxbox.com/ |
| 02:55.11 | Ice_Wewe | cosmos: yep. Now I just need to get my fiber lines working :P (lol, jk) |
| 03:01.57 | cosmos | the only fiber in my folks house is the can of metamucil in the kitchen. of course they are almost 70 years old :) |
| 03:03.01 | Ice_Wewe | cosmos: hehe.... |
| 03:03.08 | Ice_Wewe | well, time for me to be going |
| 03:03.52 | Ice_Wewe | and unlike usual, tonight this does not involve hitting /away I'm actually gonna sign off, cause if I don't, I screw myself when I go on vacation (tomorrow, tanksgiving, YEA!) cause I can't log in... |
| 03:04.17 | Ice_Wewe | so later |
| 03:04.48 | cosmos | adios |
| 03:04.51 | wizatmac | peace |
| 03:05.34 | Ice_Wewe | Adios Peace lovin, tree huggin people. |
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| 03:10.23 | bz8268 | question |
| 03:10.55 | wizatmac | yes? |
| 03:11.00 | bz8268 | my smoothing is off,but i wanted it on to see the colored bases on the radar |
| 03:11.19 | bz8268 | i said that wrong |
| 03:11.22 | bz8268 | let me say again |
| 03:11.31 | bz8268 | i have smoothing off so i can see colored bases on the radar |
| 03:11.43 | bz8268 | but every 2 seconds my flags on my radar go goldish |
| 03:11.49 | bz8268 | can i have them stay white |
| 03:11.56 | bz8268 | and keep the bases on my radar colored? |
| 03:12.06 | blast007 | what video card? |
| 03:12.46 | bz8268 | how do i check? |
| 03:12.52 | blast007 | windows? |
| 03:12.56 | bz8268 | yes |
| 03:12.56 | bz8268 | xp |
| 03:13.08 | blast007 | go on your desktop, right click on the background, and click Properties |
| 03:13.13 | bz8268 | k |
| 03:13.15 | blast007 | then go to the Settings tab |
| 03:13.22 | blast007 | should list your video card on there somewhere |
| 03:13.23 | bz8268 | k |
| 03:14.12 | bz8268 | plug and play monitor on intell (r) 82865g graphics controller |
| 03:14.36 | blast007 | anyway, start up your client, and see if it says something similar? |
| 03:14.55 | blast007 | really, the onboard intel graphics chipsets suck :) |
| 03:15.08 | bz8268 | hmm |
| 03:15.11 | blast007 | probably will be in purple text at the bottom of the window |
| 03:15.16 | bz8268 | ok |
| 03:15.18 | bz8268 | start again |
| 03:15.21 | bz8268 | i od what.,? |
| 03:15.24 | bz8268 | do* |
| 03:15.40 | blast007 | run the game, and look at the purple text at the bottom of the chat area |
| 03:16.31 | bz8268 | ok my name is in purple |
| 03:16.35 | bz8268 | my callsighn. |
| 03:17.17 | purple_cow | arg, you keep hilighting my irc client! |
| 03:17.22 | blast007 | is there anything higher up saying like "intel" |
| 03:17.24 | blast007 | heh... |
| 03:18.07 | bz8268 | 865g |
| 03:18.15 | bz8268 | thats what it says |
| 03:18.35 | blast007 | so it's using the hardware, but being an intel, there will be issues |
| 03:18.45 | bz8268 | o? |
| 03:18.54 | purple_cow | blast007: well, maybe |
| 03:18.57 | blast007 | you can try adjusting the Radar Style in the Option > GUI Options menu |
| 03:19.00 | purple_cow | some intel chipsets are ok, just slow |
| 03:19.04 | bz8268 | because i want my bases to be in color on radar and flags not blinking on and off |
| 03:19.15 | bz8268 | ive tryed.. |
| 03:19.18 | blast007 | well, "slow" would be an issue :) |
| 03:20.14 | bz8268 | were in the gui..? |
| 03:20.24 | bz8268 | nothing has to do with my flags blinking on and off |
| 03:20.31 | bz8268 | and bases not being colored |
| 03:20.50 | blast007 | I have smoothing on myself, and I get colored bases |
| 03:21.10 | bz8268 | not me |
| 03:21.16 | bz8268 | can i see ur config? |
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| 03:33.10 | GDTRFB | any secretplace admins in the house? |
| 03:33.40 | SilentSwan | i think there's more secretplace admins than there are starbucks and walmart combined. |
| 03:33.47 | GDTRFB | hehehe |
| 03:33.54 | SilentSwan | and most of them i don't like :P |
| 03:33.55 | Aribeth | lol |
| 03:34.00 | Aribeth | aww |
| 03:34.00 | GDTRFB | i'm a server erro when i try to connect... |
| 03:34.05 | GDTRFB | er, error |
| 03:34.14 | GDTRFB | er, getting a server error... |
| 03:34.20 | blast007 | I have everything maxed out :) |
| 03:34.24 | SilentSwan | what is the error? |
| 03:34.30 | Aribeth | im secretplace admin :( |
| 03:34.48 | GDTRFB | not really specific...just says "a server error occurred" |
| 03:35.09 | cosmos | did you pay your monthly secretplace fee? |
| 03:35.20 | GDTRFB | my check's in the mail.... |
| 03:35.20 | SilentSwan | i solved that problem a long time ago: don't go to secretplace hehe |
| 03:35.24 | Aribeth | lol |
| 03:35.41 | GDTRFB | you haven't gotten it? |
| 03:36.00 | cosmos | hahaha some fool selling windows 2000 pro cd for $1500 and Redhat Linux $500 on craigslist |
| 03:36.13 | Aribeth | lol |
| 03:36.18 | GDTRFB | this happened about a week or ten days, too... |
| 03:36.24 | GDTRFB | er, ago... |
| 03:37.10 | blast007 | works for me |
| 03:37.11 | GDTRFB | server shows up in server list, but no connect... :( |
| 03:37.15 | blast007 | port 5355? |
| 03:37.18 | GDTRFB | yep |
| 03:37.32 | blast007 | yup, that is working for me |
| 03:37.36 | GDTRFB | same with 5255, too...if that helps... |
| 03:37.41 | blast007 | hmm |
| 03:37.48 | blast007 | can you run a tracert to there? |
| 03:37.55 | GDTRFB | hold please... |
| 03:39.02 | GDTRFB | hmmm |
| 03:40.36 | GDTRFB | looks like it might be a network problem...one sec |
| 03:41.28 | GDTRFB | traceroute appears to lose it at 66.59.190.166...that IP mean anything to you? |
| 03:42.06 | blast007 | ~nslookup 66.59.190.166 |
| 03:42.19 | GDTRFB | that's weird...secretplace server is in AZ, right? |
| 03:42.49 | GDTRFB | my traffic is getting routed to canada before the trace barfs... |
| 03:43.30 | GDTRFB | must be a "routing anomaly" interfering with my fragging pleasure...bummer |
| 03:43.39 | blast007 | what happens if you run this: telnet bzflag.secretplace.us 5355 |
| 03:43.50 | GDTRFB | checking... |
| 03:44.49 | GDTRFB | resolves to an IP: 167.129.28.69 but no connect... |
| 03:45.16 | GDTRFB | looks like a network problem...oh, well... |
| 03:45.30 | GDTRFB | i hear this internet is going to be a big thing some day... |
| 03:46.04 | cosmos | its a great way to get all your nudie pics! other than that who knows... |
| 03:46.17 | GDTRFB | tanks for the help...i'll just try later... |
| 03:46.27 | blast007 | k |
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| 03:54.09 | cosmos | "will trade wife for microsoft software" haha |
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| 04:04.52 | learner | purple purple purple |
| 04:05.02 | purple_cow | augh! |
| 04:05.14 | purple_cow | not only is it hilighted, but i was on a different workspace so it popped up a thing! |
| 04:05.48 | learner | hehe |
| 04:05.54 | learner | i like purple |
| 04:06.01 | bryjen | ooo the evil popup thing! |
| 04:06.06 | bryjen | purple |
| 04:06.29 | learner | or maybe I need a new proton |
| 04:06.49 | learner | a purple proton |
| 04:06.51 | purple_cow | neither of those work anymore |
| 04:07.01 | purple_cow | i think the only extra thing in my list right now is "purple" |
| 04:08.01 | bryjen | hows about plain old cow ? |
| 04:08.23 | purple_cow | nope |
| 04:08.47 | learner | that was a fun 'bout of shooting tanks |
| 04:09.10 | learner | hehe |
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| 04:09.47 | learner | man i feel tired now though |
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| 04:24.44 | learner | oh dang, it's snowing |
| 04:24.58 | wizatmac | it is |
| 04:25.02 | wizatmac | ? |
| 04:25.08 | wizatmac | it is! |
| 04:25.35 | mbfg | indeedy |
| 04:26.05 | blast007 | I had snow last night...nice wet stuff |
| 04:26.32 | blast007 | 'bout half an inch |
| 04:26.47 | cosmos | heh none of that here |
| 04:29.21 | wizatmac | colors make all the difference when reviewing code |
| 04:29.23 | wizatmac | heh |
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| 04:30.03 | bz1796 | ~bzfquery incelis.bounceme.net:5154 |
| 04:31.50 | cosmos | ~bzfquery tuxsux.hepcat.org:5154 |
| 04:32.06 | blast007 | :) |
| 04:33.07 | cosmos | heh |
| 04:33.22 | cosmos | tonight was the first time i saw over 25 players on pillbox in a long long time |
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| 04:36.22 | cosmos | sportchick is on the road like jack kerouac! |
| 04:37.46 | SC-phone | hehe |
| 04:39.06 | cosmos | where is that |
| 04:39.25 | SC-phone | edge of cali & nv |
| 04:39.36 | cosmos | going to vegas? |
| 04:47.38 | SC-phone | ick |
| 04:47.40 | SC-phone | no |
| 04:47.46 | SC-phone | Lake taoe |
| 04:49.45 | SC-phone | uhhh tahoe |
| 04:51.22 | cosmos | heh |
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| 07:01.28 | cosmos | heh |
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| 08:27.10 | b_o_n_o | a |
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| 09:11.56 | jacques | OK I fixed my bad sound problem by rebuilding libsdl with oss support (and no alsa support) so it's using the alsa oss emulation - now sound is perfect |
| 09:16.56 | Chestal | that doesn't seem quite right, but if it works :-) |
| 09:21.16 | jacques | apparently this is a known issue by lots of people other than the sdl developers - or else they just dont give a carp |
| 09:21.52 | jacques | I found it on the alsa site under troubleshooting for intel_8x0 |
| 09:22.28 | jacques | hmm, maybe that means it's an alsa issue... |
| 09:23.05 | jacques | (if it's only for the intel_8x0 driver that kinda points the finger back at alsa) |
| 09:24.04 | jacques | well technically it wasn't the alsa site - it's at top of this page: http://opensrc.org/alsa/index.php?page=intel8x0 |
| 09:24.30 | jacques | now sound in bzflag and neverball is fine - no lag, no static, and no sounds playing too fast |
| 09:25.25 | Chestal | btw., which operating system is this? |
| 09:25.39 | jacques | linux |
| 09:26.11 | Chestal | but which flavor? :-) |
| 09:26.20 | jacques | 2.6.14.2 / alsa 1.0.10 / gentoo |
| 09:27.40 | jacques | tried libsdl 1.2.8 and 1.2.9 |
| 09:27.56 | b_o_n_o | hi, is there anybody who can helps me about "bad token" |
| 09:28.33 | Chestal | b_o_n_o: more details, please |
| 09:29.16 | b_o_n_o | i made a server, and nobody can connect to it, because his client writes "bad token" |
| 09:29.35 | Chestal | with global login? |
| 09:29.55 | b_o_n_o | but i can connect to my server, but nobody cant, i do global (-publicaddr) |
| 09:29.56 | Chestal | should still be abel to connect then, though, hmm |
| 09:30.29 | Chestal | I cannot test from here at the moment |
| 09:30.36 | b_o_n_o | is the mistake in the config file maybe? |
| 09:31.15 | b_o_n_o | what do u think? |
| 09:31.54 | Chestal | I would like to see the error for myself but don't have a bzflag here. Does it make a difference when you omit the -public options? |
| 09:32.51 | b_o_n_o | not it's same |
| 09:33.08 | b_o_n_o | i can said u my config file if u want? |
| 09:33.11 | Chestal | same also with plain bzfs without any parameters at all? |
| 09:33.13 | b_o_n_o | send |
| 09:34.24 | b_o_n_o | i dont try it without parameters |
| 09:35.35 | Chestal | would be good to try, defaults to port 5154 then |
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| 10:46.00 | b_o_n_o | hi |
| 10:46.06 | b_o_n_o | chestal? |
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| 14:54.07 | berserker | question! this is a dumb one... i just emerged bzflag onto my gentoo linux machine... what's the command to start it? |
| 14:54.19 | berserker | i've tried bzflag, BZFlag, bzFlag... |
| 14:54.59 | berserker | i usually play on my mac, but figured i'd give it a shot on the linux box... bigger screen and all |
| 14:57.34 | BearPerson | bzflag |
| 14:57.58 | BearPerson | unless you didn't have all the libs installed that it needs to build the graphical client |
| 14:57.59 | berserker | gives me a command not found |
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| 14:58.24 | berserker | emerging should have taken care of it |
| 14:58.39 | BearPerson | try hash -r and then running it again |
| 14:58.43 | BearPerson | or check your $PATH |
| 14:58.53 | BearPerson | or check if you have the right permissions to run it |
| 14:59.07 | BearPerson | ought to be /usr/games/bzflag |
| 15:00.01 | berserker | are you running gentoo as well? |
| 15:00.27 | brlcad | what do you have in /usr/games/bzflag/.? |
| 15:00.53 | jpa- | brlcad: you need to be in games group |
| 15:00.58 | jpa- | bah |
| 15:01.00 | jpa- | berserker: |
| 15:01.03 | berserker | i found it... it was in /usr/games/bin/ |
| 15:01.15 | berserker | and it's up |
| 15:01.19 | berserker | yeah, i'm in the games group |
| 15:01.30 | jpa- | that should be automatically in your path if you are in that group.. |
| 15:01.42 | berserker | hmm |
| 15:02.38 | berserker | thanks though. now i know where it is and i can mess with it |
| 15:03.03 | jpa- | don't mess with the game, play it :P |
| 15:03.20 | berserker | :P |
| 15:03.40 | berserker | thanks! have a good thanksgiving, if you're into it |
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| 15:21.42 | tinytank | how do u put a server on the internet? |
| 15:22.03 | tinytank | hi |
| 15:22.34 | tinytank | hi |
| 15:23.18 | tinytank | how do u put a server on the internet? |
| 15:23.44 | tinytank | hi |
| 15:28.33 | learner | ugh |
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| 15:31.26 | tinytank | ~tinytankworld.org 5154 |
| 15:32.03 | Grumbler | ban'em, ban'em all |
| 15:32.14 | Aribeth | :) |
| 15:32.25 | Aribeth | mornin Grumbler |
| 15:32.51 | jpa- | morni Aribeth |
| 15:33.51 | Aribeth | ouch |
| 15:34.02 | Aribeth | ~lart jpa- |
| 15:34.05 | blast007 | ~bzfquery tinytankworld.org:5154 |
| 15:34.35 | Grumbler | morning Aribeth |
| 15:34.48 | Grumbler | have any extra pumpkin pie? |
| 15:35.05 | Aribeth | sry, nope |
| 15:36.12 | Aribeth | hummm...jpa- is quiet now |
| 15:37.18 | blast007 | ~nslookup tinytankworld.org |
| 15:37.30 | Aribeth | heh |
| 15:37.38 | blast007 | probably didn't even register it ;) |
| 15:37.45 | Aribeth | yep |
| 15:38.31 | Grumbler | yep |
| 15:38.40 | blast007 | 50 would be enough |
| 15:38.46 | Grumbler | unless you are banned at 118 |
| 15:38.49 | Aribeth | but all the munchkins want to run servers |
| 15:38.54 | Aribeth | hehe |
| 15:38.55 | Aribeth | ya |
| 15:39.28 | Grumbler | i say, let them do it.....administering a server is a good life lesson |
| 15:39.33 | Aribeth | hrm...if all the munchkins want to run servers, they must be banned at the rest |
| 15:39.40 | Aribeth | yep |
| 15:40.11 | Aribeth | sleepycows was once a good server, now it sits mostly empty |
| 15:40.37 | Grumbler | my brain is having a hard time with the word munchkin..........i keep picturing small donut holes dressed in elf costumes. |
| 15:40.39 | blast007 | the kiddies usually have like 40 admins on their servers, all of which don't know what 'responsibility' is |
| 15:40.53 | Aribeth | roflol |
| 15:41.39 | blast007 | "Can I b adm1n?!?!?!" "Okay, sure, here you go" "SW333333t!!" |
| 15:41.49 | Death-Barrel | yay! |
| 15:41.56 | Death-Barrel | thats pretty much how it goes |
| 15:41.57 | Death-Barrel | lol |
| 15:41.59 | blast007 | ;) |
| 15:42.02 | Aribeth | i did that once to a kid that wanted the password |
| 15:42.03 | Death-Barrel | yo blast007 |
| 15:42.03 | jpa- | and they don't use groups but /password |
| 15:42.08 | Death-Barrel | Grumbler, |
| 15:42.11 | blast007 | hey Death-Barrel :) |
| 15:42.11 | Death-Barrel | yola |
| 15:42.19 | blast007 | jpa-: yeah |
| 15:42.23 | Aribeth | the password i gave him was "imatool" |
| 15:42.24 | Grumbler | heh, yola |
| 15:42.31 | blast007 | lol |
| 15:42.38 | Death-Barrel | i was on a server once....... this guys starts sending out the server passwd, and then says oops!! |
| 15:42.50 | Death-Barrel | just enough time for me to kick him |
| 15:42.53 | Death-Barrel | lol |
| 15:42.57 | blast007 | well, this is unfortunate...the only thing responding on my XP machine is PuTTY :P |
| 15:43.09 | blast007 | the start menu won't even go down... |
| 15:43.11 | Aribeth | lol |
| 15:43.19 | blast007 | nor can I load task manager or cmd.exe |
| 15:43.26 | jpa- | blast007: well you can irc, what more could you ask for? |
| 15:43.33 | blast007 | lol |
| 15:43.47 | Death-Barrel | yeah |
| 15:43.49 | Death-Barrel | lol |
| 15:43.54 | Grumbler | blast007, that'll teach you to open those funky email attatchments |
| 15:43.55 | Aribeth | i see windows is working perfectly for you :P |
| 15:44.16 | Death-Barrel | time to switch to linux blast |
| 15:44.17 | blast007 | part of it is that the laptop is falling apart |
| 15:44.28 | blast007 | musta fell off the table one too many times |
| 15:44.33 | Death-Barrel | you got scotch tape? |
| 15:44.33 | Aribeth | supper glue :P |
| 15:44.37 | blast007 | lol |
| 15:44.48 | Aribeth | duct tape it |
| 15:44.50 | blast007 | let's just say I have to pull the display forward to get it to boot |
| 15:44.50 | Death-Barrel | elmers glue works good too |
| 15:44.57 | jpa- | i superglued my laptop when it started getting cracks |
| 15:44.57 | Death-Barrel | plus it tastes good |
| 15:45.11 | Aribeth | ewww |
| 15:45.15 | jpa- | then i noticed i hadn't put all the crucial support-screws back when i opened it |
| 15:45.26 | Death-Barrel | ummmmmmmmm, i use it for gravy on my mashed potatoes and turkey |
| 15:45.46 | blast007 | can't...load....notepad... |
| 15:45.46 | Aribeth | not thats just sick :p |
| 15:45.49 | Aribeth | :p |
| 15:45.53 | Aribeth | :P |
| 15:45.54 | blast007 | oh well, brb...rebooting |
| 15:48.25 | jpa- | ~lart Aribeth |
| 15:48.35 | Aribeth | why? |
| 15:48.44 | jpa- | you larted me |
| 15:48.44 | Aribeth | wahd i do |
| 15:48.49 | Aribeth | oh |
| 15:48.51 | Aribeth | that |
| 15:49.02 | Aribeth | that was for bitting my leg |
| 15:49.19 | jpa- | well you offered it |
| 15:49.37 | Aribeth | i offered a turkey leg, not mine |
| 15:50.06 | jpa- | oh, i apologize for my mistake |
| 15:50.12 | jpa- | you two do look quite the same |
| 15:50.13 | Aribeth | ok |
| 15:50.18 | Aribeth | err |
| 15:50.33 | blast007 | much better |
| 15:50.53 | Aribeth | ~lart jpa- for saying i look like a turkey |
| 15:51.08 | jpa- | not a turkey, but like a turkey leg |
| 15:51.16 | Aribeth | same thing |
| 15:51.21 | Aribeth | :P |
| 15:51.29 | jpa- | is not, turkeys are cuter |
| 15:51.41 | Aribeth | ooooooooo |
| 15:51.59 | Aribeth | ~lart jpa- |
| 15:52.30 | jpa- | ok better stop before i get someone complaining about this :P |
| 15:52.41 | Aribeth | :) |
| 15:54.04 | ToughShooter | Looks like jpa has a new lart subscription from Aribeth :) |
| 15:54.12 | blast007 | lol |
| 15:54.15 | Aribeth | yep |
| 15:54.29 | Aribeth | he keeps renewing it |
| 16:48.03 | Grumbler | ~lart Aribeth for larting jpa- |
| 16:48.33 | Grumbler | ~lart jpa- for enticing Aribeth to lart him |
| 16:49.21 | Grumbler | ~lart Grumbler just for the hell of it |
| 16:50.33 | blast007 | heh |
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| 17:13.26 | Aribeth | lol |
| 17:13.48 | Aribeth | ~lart everyone for the hell of it |
| 17:16.14 | blast007 | ouch |
| 17:17.24 | Aribeth | heh |
| 17:22.11 | Aribeth_away | turkey time :) |
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| 18:42.55 | SilentSwan | ah well, must make myself presentable - happy holiday to all |
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| 19:07.47 | cosmos | hrm |
| 19:08.40 | cosmos | i need to roast a mouse for my cat's thanksgiving feast |
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| 19:17.51 | cosmos | hrm, a nice 800lb trunk subwolfer |
| 19:18.37 | jpa- | subwolfer == a diving wolf? |
| 19:18.47 | cosmos | hehe |
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| 19:19.05 | cosmos | nah building out the sound system on my 1968 cadillac coupe de ville project |
| 19:19.30 | cosmos | near complete on the 850HP 500 V8 engine |
| 19:20.04 | jpa- | put a computer in it and play bzflag |
| 19:20.15 | cosmos | i could put an entire lab in it :) |
| 19:20.21 | jpa- | you could have it controlled with gps and actual car movements :P |
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| 19:44.54 | cosmos | yikes, mr_bills thanksgiving grocery bill was over $600 for 3 people sheesh |
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| 19:53.55 | Arctik | does hosting a server require bogz of bandwidth? |
| 19:54.02 | Arctik | gobz* |
| 19:54.04 | RPG_ | yes. |
| 19:54.35 | Arctik | like my dsl wont cut it? |
| 19:54.46 | cosmos | nope |
| 19:54.52 | Arctik | how bout cable? |
| 19:54.55 | jpa- | about 50kbit/s/player |
| 19:55.02 | jpa- | upstream |
| 19:55.13 | Arctik | well i suposedly get 700kb up |
| 19:55.25 | cosmos | not going to cut it |
| 19:55.28 | jpa- | should be enough for like 10 players |
| 19:55.39 | jpa- | if it doesn't start saturating |
| 19:55.41 | cosmos | you need a minimum of 50 players ;) |
| 19:55.49 | Arctik | damn |
| 19:55.55 | Arctik | thats alot of players |
| 19:56.14 | jpa- | my connection with supposed upstream of 512K can barely handle 6 or so |
| 19:56.20 | cosmos | http://losangeles.craigslist.org/car/111827140.html |
| 19:56.32 | jpa- | because it saturates in an evil way :/ |
| 19:57.09 | RPG_ | eew craigslist |
| 19:58.00 | cosmos | craigslist is pure entertainment where else can you buy baby clothes and a handjob for under $50 |
| 19:58.09 | Arctik | that sux that basicly the only service i can host is http |
| 19:58.15 | RPG_ | and ftp! |
| 19:58.21 | Arctik | :P slow ftp |
| 19:59.11 | Arctik | why cant netgames be less bandwidth intensive |
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| 20:00.04 | Arctik | or more descentralized... |
| 20:00.19 | Arctik | like the idea behind BitTorent |
| 20:00.22 | RPG_ | decentralized would create more lag than a client-server system |
| 20:00.39 | cosmos | just pony up the bucks for some real bandwidth :) |
| 20:00.51 | Arctik | heh like a t1! |
| 20:01.34 | cosmos | i pay about $100/mo for my colo that hosts a 30+ player server 24x7 |
| 20:01.55 | cosmos | as well as all of my personal stuff |
| 20:03.36 | Arctik | if only everyhousehold had a 54MB wireless accesspoint |
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| 20:20.13 | uso | how long does a jump last (on a server with default settings)? about 4 seconds? |
| 20:21.20 | Chestal | should be 2 * 19 / 9.8 |
| 20:21.32 | Chestal | 2 * jump velocity / gravity |
| 20:21.38 | RPG_ | ibot 2*19/9.8 |
| 20:21.40 | ibot | 3.877551020408 |
| 20:21.53 | RPG_ | 3.8 seconds |
| 20:21.58 | RPG_ | errr 3.9 |
| 20:22.10 | uso | ok, thanks chestal |
| 20:22.15 | uso | and RPG :) |
| 20:23.40 | uso | is it know that the jumping behaviour changes with frame rate of the client if inertia is set? |
| 20:23.48 | uso | "feature"? |
| 20:23.58 | uso | *known |
| 20:24.12 | RPG_ | frame rate shouldn't matter |
| 20:24.18 | RPG_ | BZFlag does all it's calculatinos in the CPU |
| 20:24.21 | uso | it does matter |
| 20:24.35 | RPG_ | the frame rate is the measure of the graphics card's performance |
| 20:24.56 | uso | i know what frame rate is ;) |
| 20:25.27 | Chestal | uhm, -a inertia? |
| 20:25.39 | Chestal | does that affect jumping at all? how so? |
| 20:25.41 | uso | go to a jumping server with inertia settings, try to change direction between 2 jumps |
| 20:25.59 | uso | works with 20 fps or so, does not work with 100 fps |
| 20:26.37 | uso | inertia does affect movement changes between jumps |
| 20:26.47 | Chestal | you mean, you hold tab to immediately rejump? |
| 20:26.55 | uso | i.e. if you keep hitting tab |
| 20:26.57 | uso | yes |
| 20:28.00 | Tupone | I remember you were not allowed to change direction of jump on 1.10 :/ Dunno why it is in from 2.0 on |
| 20:28.52 | uso | changing direction also worked with 1.10, but it worked not always |
| 20:30.01 | uso | if you were constantly jumping with 1.10 and changed moving direction it sometimes changed with the next jump, sometimes with the second next, sometimes it even needed more jumps |
| 20:31.07 | uso | i would say jumping with 1.10 was less predictable :) |
| 20:31.58 | uso | as it is now on 2.0 with inertia settings ;) |
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| 20:40.17 | uso | may it be possible that other parts of the game physics also depends on the client frame rate? |
| 20:44.31 | jacques | I've seen this mentioned somewhere else |
| 20:44.48 | jacques | maybe it was on the wiki or a known issues page somewhere |
| 20:45.05 | jacques | or a bugtracker |
| 20:45.32 | jacques | ppl with a higher framerate were actually at a disadvantage |
| 20:45.57 | RPG_ | really? |
| 20:46.06 | uso | we detected it yesterday, alex posted it at gu forum |
| 20:46.26 | jacques | yeah, I think it was when I was trying to debug my lagged sound problem that I did a lot of reading |
| 20:46.46 | jacques | heck, maybe it was even on the forums... |
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| 20:47.52 | uso_w | http://www.gamesunited.de/ib/index.php?showtopic=11765 |
| 20:49.15 | JeffM2501 | there are fps issues yes, noone has taken the time to decouple simulation from display |
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| 20:53.43 | cosmos | http://tinyurl.com/78ev9 |
| 21:00.06 | Tupone | uso: try experimenting with unlimited angular acceleration |
| 21:00.09 | trepan | Tupone: i modified the jump input to be more consistent in 2.0 |
| 21:00.31 | Tupone | I remember you did for the trampoline |
| 21:00.42 | trepan | na, a general improvement |
| 21:16.27 | jacques | I see from the wiki that Chestal has written a logger / replayer - is there a way to replay sessions in the 3d game engine (like you can in some flight sims, etc) ? |
| 21:16.56 | Chestal | there is a server-based record/replay |
| 21:18.30 | jacques | really?? so the server can record, then replay and this can be observed? |
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| 21:18.39 | jacques | that would rock |
| 21:19.35 | jacques | could play back in slow-mo |
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| 21:23.46 | Chestal | jacques: only real-time for now, some servers are setup that way. You get replay by joinign a dedicated replay server |
| 21:23.59 | jacques | wow!!! |
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| 21:43.47 | Noodleroni | it's been so long since i logged into my noodlebox, i forgot the password >.< |
| 21:44.14 | ruskie | lol |
| 21:46.56 | Chestal | beginner's mistake - using different passwords everywhere |
| 21:47.59 | trepan | beginner's mistake - using the same password everywhere |
| 21:48.13 | wegstar | :) |
| 21:48.20 | Chestal | that's what they tell you - see where it leads :-) |
| 21:49.26 | ruskie | :) |
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| 21:51.48 | Tupone | One-Time Password is better :) |
| 21:51.56 | Noodleroni | no, i've been in training at the army away from a keyboard too long |
| 21:52.12 | Noodleroni | i always remembered my passwords by how they felt when i typed them |
| 21:52.19 | a_monkey | "The BZFlag developers are proud to announce the final release of BZFlag 2.0.4." why does bzflag.org say that? |
| 21:52.21 | Noodleroni | blasted dyslexia |
| 21:52.28 | a_monkey | there aren't going to be anymore bzflag releases?! |
| 21:52.52 | ruskie | erm |
| 21:52.55 | ruskie | of that version :) |
| 21:53.03 | a_monkey | oh |
| 21:53.04 | a_monkey | lol |
| 21:53.58 | a_monkey | sounds kinda weird though |
| 21:54.03 | a_monkey | maybe should be changed |
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| 21:55.06 | Noodleman | i remembered my sister's shell password, but not my own, oddly enough |
| 21:56.17 | ruskie | lol |
| 21:57.02 | Noodleman | grrrr |
| 21:57.29 | Noodleman | i know before i left, i gave the password to somebody |
| 21:57.37 | Noodleman | the relevant question is who :-P |
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| 22:40.44 | brad2901 | ames. |
| 22:40.46 | brad2901 | oops. |
| 22:40.50 | brad2901 | ignore ^^ |
| 22:44.50 | wegstar | :) |
| 22:47.02 | jacques | a_monkey, heh I thought the same thing when I read that |
| 22:49.54 | Pimpi | no riker around tonight? |
| 22:50.30 | jacques | Pimpi, it's a big holiday in the US |
| 23:18.08 | cosmos | yes another holiday to make americans fatter and lazier! |
| 23:18.24 | purple_cow | yay! |
| 23:18.48 | ruskie | lol |
| 23:19.03 | cosmos | http://www.hepcat.org/mr_bill/ |
| 23:19.20 | cosmos | this guy spent over $600 USD on thanksgiving dinner groceries for him and his wife + mom |
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| 23:39.35 | jacques | does bzedit or something like it work under linux yet? (I remember a few years ago it didn't) |
| 23:39.56 | jacques | or do people use an app like blender? |
