| 00:06.30 | *** join/#bzflag SilentSwan (n=cygnus@unaffiliated/silentswan) |
| 00:07.06 | *** join/#bzflag jacques (n=username@nslu2-linux/jacques) |
| 00:23.27 | Thumper_ | trepan: ping |
| 00:23.37 | *** join/#bzflag exu (n=exu@orbit.borkedplanet.com) |
| 00:27.45 | *** join/#bzflag SilentSwan (n=cygnus@unaffiliated/silentswan) |
| 00:27.50 | SilentSwan | that was nice |
| 00:29.18 | trepan | pong |
| 00:29.51 | CIA-2 | BZFlag: 03dtremenak 07v2_0branch * 10bzflag/ (include/win32.h src/bzflag/CommandsImplementation.cxx): declare std::isnan for vc. are we really going for C99? |
| 00:35.56 | Thumper_ | trepan: I recently upgraded my ATI binary drivers... and of course |
| 00:35.59 | Thumper_ | it broke again :) |
| 00:36.12 | Thumper_ | flags went away - setting /local _flagLists 1 seems to fix it |
| 00:36.37 | Thumper_ | do you remember that other thing you fixed for louman's mystic valley |
| 00:36.44 | trepan | Thumper_: heh, yup, same cause |
| 00:36.46 | Thumper_ | was it _meshLists ? |
| 00:36.54 | Thumper_ | or _noMeshClusters? |
| 00:37.09 | trepan | meshLists |
| 00:37.10 | Thumper_ | it was really disconcerting to have only flag poles and no flags :) |
| 00:37.27 | Thumper_ | so if I go to that map and /localset _meshLists 0 |
| 00:37.32 | Thumper_ | it should still crash if I have that bug (right?) |
| 00:37.59 | trepan | i'm finding that any dlists generated per-frame are causing slow downs |
| 00:38.15 | Thumper_ | :/ |
| 00:38.20 | trepan | meshLists is a client-side var, no '_' |
| 00:38.23 | Thumper_ | ah |
| 00:38.29 | Thumper_ | ok |
| 00:38.34 | Thumper_ | is /localset permanent? |
| 00:38.45 | Thumper_ | or do I have to manually edit the config? |
| 00:39.14 | trepan | depends on whether or not the var already exists |
| 00:40.13 | Thumper_ | hmm doesn't seem to crash anymore |
| 00:40.23 | Thumper_ | with cvs client |
| 00:54.36 | Thumper_ | so if it runs with meshLists 0 is that preferred ? |
| 00:55.57 | trepan | nope, the defaults are preferred |
| 00:56.19 | trepan | meshLists = 1, flagLists = 0, lightLists = 0 |
| 00:56.45 | trepan | your ati drv is kacking on glDrawArrays |
| 00:57.21 | trepan | (when they aren't in a dlist, as that mentionned on that forum i showed ya) |
| 00:57.30 | Thumper_ | yup |
| 00:57.49 | Thumper_ | but earlier... meshLists of 0 used to crash the client |
| 00:57.54 | Thumper_ | that doesn't seem to happen anymore |
| 00:58.08 | trepan | you have it set before entering the world? |
| 00:58.17 | Thumper_ | the first time yes |
| 00:58.24 | Thumper_ | then I /localset it back and forth |
| 00:58.26 | Thumper_ | and it doesn't crash |
| 00:58.40 | trepan | only matters while joining the world |
| 00:58.43 | Thumper_ | ah |
| 00:58.46 | Thumper_ | ok let me try it both ways |
| 00:59.24 | trepan | (and that's only true of the meshLists, accounts for the defaults) |
| 00:59.48 | Thumper_ | seems to work both ways (meshLists 0 or 1) |
| 01:00.04 | trepan | you in a meshy place? |
| 01:00.13 | Thumper_ | um... mystic valley ? |
| 01:00.16 | Thumper_ | same place it used to crash |
| 01:00.24 | Thumper_ | unless you changed it lots |
| 01:00.31 | Thumper_ | I can try my version - it's old |
| 01:00.39 | Thumper_ | unchanged since my earlier crashes |
| 01:00.52 | Thumper_ | using louman.bzflag.bz |
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| 01:11.47 | Thumper_ | it works now with meshLists 0 and meshLists 1. strange |
| 01:11.58 | Thumper_ | but flags only display with flagLists 1 |
| 01:15.05 | trepan | my current flag code uses glDrawElements() instead of glDrawArrays(), maybe that'll make a diff. for ya |
| 01:21.45 | Thumper_ | ok thx. |
| 01:23.10 | trepan | in the meantime, '/localset flagLists 1' or config equiv. should work (_flagLists should not) |
| 01:23.41 | Thumper_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:24.10 | Thumper_ | I was just surprised when I decided to experiment with meshLists ... and it didn't break |
| 01:24.55 | Thumper_ | I have the old client on another machine and it still dies with meshLists 0 so it's something new in CVS since then (obviously your draw code now) |
| 01:26.57 | trepan | i too would expect it to still break with meshLists = 0 |
| 01:35.14 | CIA-2 | BZFlag: 03dtremenak * 10bzflag/ (35 files in 9 dirs): merge changes from 2.0.5. v2_0branch tagged as merge-2_0-2_1-5. |
| 01:38.34 | blast007 | ~DTRemenak++ |
| 01:39.28 | *** join/#bzflag cody6375 (n=44380596@webchat.bzflag.bz) |
| 01:39.40 | cody6375 | hello |
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| 01:40.34 | cody6375 | okay hre is my question how do I get into the admin on my server |
| 01:41.44 | Thumper_ | cody6375: you give your server a password and do '/password secret-password-goes-here' in the chat area |
| 01:41.45 | SilentSwan | type /password YOUR_PASSWORD_THAT_YOU_PUT_IN_YOUR_CONFIG_FILE |
| 01:42.02 | Thumper_ | or you assign yourself to some privileged group and use either |
| 01:42.03 | cody6375 | okay thanks |
| 01:42.12 | SilentSwan | the latter being preferable |
| 01:42.12 | Thumper_ | global registration or a local userdb and passdb |
| 01:42.25 | Thumper_ | global registration and a local userdb works well |
| 01:42.39 | Thumper_ | or even global registration and no user and pass dbs |
| 01:44.11 | cody6375 | okay I did that and just got a bad command |
| 01:46.07 | Thumper_ | you did what? |
| 01:47.09 | cody6375 | okay I made sure there was a password in the config file , |
| 01:49.10 | cody6375 | now do I log into the game as admin ?? |
| 01:49.24 | Thumper_ | on the bzflag client... |
| 01:49.31 | cody6375 | yes |
| 01:49.32 | Thumper_ | do 'n' to start a chat message |
| 01:49.40 | Thumper_ | then type '/password whatever-it-is' |
| 01:49.46 | cody6375 | ok |
| 01:49.46 | Thumper_ | and it should give you local.admin privs |
| 01:49.52 | cody6375 | ok |
| 01:49.54 | cody6375 | brb |
| 01:51.13 | RPG_ | s/should/will |
| 01:51.30 | cody6375 | am :) |
| 01:51.50 | cody6375 | okay where can I get a list of commands ?? |
| 01:51.57 | RPG_ | /cmds |
| 01:52.06 | Thumper_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:52.16 | RPG_ | /cmds or /? will work |
| 01:52.30 | Thumper_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:52.39 | Thumper_ | not here it doesn't |
| 01:52.49 | RPG_ | must be on newer BZFS'es |
| 01:52.51 | cody6375 | ok |
| 01:53.07 | trepan | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:53.13 | Thumper_ | 2.0.5.20051115-DEVEL-linux-gnu-SDL |
| 01:53.15 | trepan | it also uses /? if the server supports it |
| 01:53.20 | cody6375 | thanks gues I really mean it |
| 01:53.30 | Thumper_ | ah |
| 01:53.38 | Thumper_ | trying bzadmin... :-P |
| 01:54.07 | Thumper_ | btw trepan Thanks!! for the new nick completion!! |
| 01:54.09 | Thumper_ | :D |
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| 01:57.26 | cody6375 | thumper what is BZADMIN is it another part of the softwear or is it another software? |
| 01:57.35 | Thumper_ | it's a text only client |
| 01:57.45 | Thumper_ | mostly for chatting and server commands |
| 01:57.48 | Thumper_ | you can't see or play |
| 01:57.54 | cody6375 | where can I download it from? |
| 01:58.00 | Thumper_ | it comes with the source |
| 01:58.07 | Thumper_ | bzflag, bzfs, bzadmin |
| 01:58.27 | Thumper_ | SilentSwan: disableBots! :) |
| 01:58.28 | cody6375 | oh ok |
| 01:58.32 | Thumper_ | I was there and left... |
| 01:58.38 | SilentSwan | i know |
| 01:58.40 | SilentSwan | i was the bot |
| 01:58.50 | SilentSwan | bots are better than nothing |
| 01:59.01 | Thumper_ | um maybe it you can't jump |
| 01:59.05 | Thumper_ | :) |
| 01:59.29 | SilentSwan | well, bots get people to recognize that the server is even on the list |
| 02:00.10 | SilentSwan | besides, i was bored |
| 02:00.14 | Thumper_ | yes... I'm guilty of having done that once or twice too... |
| 02:00.32 | SilentSwan | doesn't matter.. i don't give a f... |
| 02:00.33 | Thumper_ | it's just the bots don't play very well (thankfully) |
| 02:00.37 | SilentSwan | i know |
| 02:01.27 | SilentSwan | been a baaaaaaaaad day... so.. whatever. |
| 02:01.32 | blast007 | heh...I remember when the list server was down a year or two ago...so I started a local server with like 20 bots ;) |
| 02:01.34 | Thumper_ | sorry :( |
| 02:01.47 | Thumper_ | you should have gone for that interview... |
| 02:01.48 | SilentSwan | no worries |
| 02:01.51 | blast007 | had a score of like 1600 |
| 02:01.51 | SilentSwan | no |
| 02:01.58 | Thumper_ | or not |
| 02:02.04 | SilentSwan | not worth it |
| 02:02.18 | SilentSwan | first time in a long time |
| 02:02.23 | RPG_ | "Drive hammered, get nailed" |
| 02:02.29 | RPG_ | says a pen in the shape of a nail |
| 02:02.33 | RPG_ | sponsored by some government |
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| 02:06.15 | *** mode/#bzflag [+v DTRemenak] by ChanServ |
| 02:06.34 | RPG_ | earthquake? |
| 02:06.50 | SilentSwan | perhaps |
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| 02:07.09 | RPG_ | oh no |
| 02:07.13 | RPG_ | better get under a chair |
| 02:07.29 | SilentSwan | nah |
| 02:07.32 | SilentSwan | it'll be fun |
| 02:07.50 | RPG_ | wheeee |
| 02:16.03 | SilentSwan | RPG_ how old are you, if i may ask? |
| 02:16.15 | RPG_ | 14 |
| 02:16.35 | SilentSwan | good. you've still got a shot at it. don't blow it. |
| 02:16.58 | SilentSwan | <- example of what happens |
| 02:18.44 | blast007 | you...turn into a swan? |
| 02:18.52 | blast007 | ;) |
| 02:19.22 | SilentSwan | no, but your carriage turns into a pumpkin |
| 02:19.41 | blast007 | then I could make a pie! |
| 02:20.03 | SilentSwan | let me know how that turns out |
| 02:20.16 | blast007 | probably burnt |
| 02:20.53 | blast007 | anyway...I'm actually going into IT :/ |
| 02:21.23 | SilentSwan | save yourself now |
| 02:21.26 | SilentSwan | while you've got a chance |
| 02:21.36 | blast007 | bah.. |
| 02:21.39 | SilentSwan | seriously |
| 02:21.42 | SilentSwan | it's bad |
| 02:21.57 | SilentSwan | unless your name is Apu and you live in Bangalore |
| 02:22.01 | RPG_ | nah |
| 02:22.20 | SilentSwan | one of the biggest mistakes of my life... going into IT |
| 02:22.25 | RPG_ | oh no |
| 02:22.32 | blast007 | I'm more on the programming end of things |
| 02:22.39 | SilentSwan | i started out that way |
| 02:22.39 | blast007 | though I'm also going to school for networking |
| 02:22.40 | RPG_ | on my counsellors sheet : "I'd like to go into the IT business field" |
| 02:23.55 | RPG_ | it taht bad? |
| 02:23.59 | SilentSwan | after all, why expect a livable salary when Punjab can do it for $5/hour |
| 02:24.02 | SilentSwan | yes, it is that bad |
| 02:24.27 | wizatmac2 | it/security seems like it would be more of a stable, domestic market |
| 02:24.31 | RPG_ | ohh, you were replaced by some asian supernerd? |
| 02:24.32 | wizatmac2 | as often it requires onsite vistis |
| 02:24.39 | SilentSwan | supernerd? hah |
| 02:24.52 | RPG_ | they're taking over the world, you know |
| 02:24.54 | SilentSwan | probabyl about as competent as any of the off-shored tech support you deal with on the phone |
| 02:25.00 | SilentSwan | it would appear so |
| 02:25.32 | SilentSwan | i learned. i put blood, sweat and tears into it. and some dothead gets it from me because he's cheap |
| 02:25.40 | SilentSwan | sorry for the slur, but.. it's accurate i think |
| 02:26.13 | RPG_ | i imageine with every company running a network, demand would be high |
| 02:26.29 | SilentSwan | well guess what.. you're wrong |
| 02:26.34 | SilentSwan | there are NO jobs |
| 02:26.37 | SilentSwan | they've all gone overseas |
| 02:26.45 | *** join/#bzflag lan56 (i=lan56@user-vcautnq.dsl.mindspring.com) |
| 02:27.05 | SilentSwan | meanwhile, that grinning chimpanzee in the whitehouse opens the floodgates for illegal immigrants |
| 02:27.19 | SilentSwan | and allows them to work here |
| 02:27.24 | RPG_ | i can't believe he'd do that |
| 02:27.28 | RPG_ | it sounded totally obsurd |
| 02:27.37 | SilentSwan | well, he's a fascist pig... not surprising at all |
| 02:27.40 | RPG_ | letting mexicans, who didn't immigrate properly, get free jobs |
| 02:29.25 | RPG_ | i was a kerry supporter |
| 02:29.33 | RPG_ | best i could do was influence the family |
| 02:29.43 | blast007 | ...anyway, I'm not sure what else I would do besides something IT related :) |
| 02:29.55 | RPG_ | same here |
| 02:32.06 | lan56 | while many of them may not be legal, many of them take jobs from places that are up for grabs |
| 02:32.11 | SilentSwan | anything the pigs cannot send overseas |
| 02:32.22 | lan56 | such as day jobs, where anybody can stand and wait for a job |
| 02:32.24 | SilentSwan | of course they're up for grabs... |
| 02:32.32 | SilentSwan | any non-mexican that takes the job is driven out |
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| 02:32.52 | lan56 | perhaps, I have no experience in the day worker pool |
| 02:33.14 | SilentSwan | since we have to accommodate them |
| 02:33.32 | SilentSwan | and road signs and bathroom signs and gov't documents |
| 02:34.03 | lan56 | except for the road signs, spanish translation is common amongst all of those. german not as much tho |
| 02:34.15 | SilentSwan | um yeah. my point. |
| 02:34.25 | lan56 | I see :) |
| 02:34.40 | SilentSwan | <- german born.. yet.. somehow, i managed to actually LEARN english |
| 02:34.44 | SilentSwan | imagine that |
| 02:34.50 | TD-Linux | http://pastebin.ca/30466 |
| 02:34.54 | SilentSwan | but apparently our friends from south of the border are beyond that |
| 02:35.06 | SilentSwan | ah well, i better go before i make even more enemies |
| 02:35.24 | lan56 | TD-Linux, neat |
| 02:35.37 | TD-Linux | used the AA project for that |
| 02:35.49 | blast007 | ah, I see now...the tank icon ;) |
| 02:36.06 | blast007 | I was wondering for a sec what the heck it was supposed to be |
| 02:36.12 | TD-Linux | it even does it in full 256 color grayscale... wait a bit |
| 02:37.30 | TD-Linux | pastebin dosen't work with html :( |
| 02:39.07 | TD-Linux | I have to go now |
| 02:41.27 | orchid | ~bzquery plug.student-orgs.purdue.edu:5154 |
| 02:41.50 | orchid | ~bzfquery plug.student-orgs.purdue.edu:5154 |
| 02:42.03 | RPG_ | but apache does! |
| 02:56.08 | lan56 | hmm "solarcat" |
| 02:56.29 | lan56 | I thought it was a misspeliing at first of silvercat |
| 02:56.37 | RPG_ | nah |
| 02:56.45 | RPG_ | win XP's just unoriginal |
| 02:57.06 | lan56 | a bit yes, at least the maps are different |
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| 03:37.24 | cosmos | heh |
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| 03:46.59 | cosmos | win xp is one arguing little bugger on the forums |
| 03:47.00 | cosmos | sheesh |
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| 03:50.49 | bz2222 | exit |
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| 04:26.48 | A_Meteorite | Hi. |
| 04:27.20 | A_Meteorite | I'm going in and out, so I might not hear everything. :) |
| 04:28.12 | cosmos | hot dog sammy is banned for life at hepcat |
| 04:43.09 | wizatmac2 | wow visual studio is crazy to uninstall |
| 04:43.16 | wizatmac2 | the betas that is |
| 04:44.35 | A_Meteorite | heh |
| 04:44.45 | A_Meteorite | can I compile BZFlag on WinXP? |
| 04:44.51 | wizatmac2 | yup |
| 04:44.54 | wizatmac2 | did it today |
| 04:45.01 | wizatmac2 | but you need visual c 7.1 |
| 04:45.06 | A_Meteorite | does that cost? |
| 04:45.09 | wizatmac2 | which i *think* is .net 2003 |
| 04:45.10 | wizatmac2 | yes |
| 04:45.17 | wizatmac2 | unless you can find something else |
| 04:45.40 | wizatmac2 | they're going to migrate the code (hopefully) soon so that it works on the free Visual C Express 2005 compiler |
| 04:45.57 | A_Meteorite | wow, I didn't know there was a free one ;) |
| 04:46.08 | wizatmac2 | yup |
| 04:46.09 | lan56 | there is also dev-c++ build (free) |
| 04:46.17 | wizatmac2 | just NEVER GET THE BETAS OF THE EXPRESS EDITIONS |
| 04:46.18 | A_Meteorite | any links? |
| 04:46.23 | A_Meteorite | k |
| 04:46.31 | wizatmac2 | i've spent the past 4 hrs trying to remove everything of the betas |
| 04:46.36 | A_Meteorite | LOL! |
| 04:46.49 | A_Meteorite | I'm new to Windows |
| 04:46.59 | A_Meteorite | So used to MacOS X |
| 04:47.01 | wizatmac2 | http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/express/visualc/default.aspx |
| 04:47.55 | lan56 | http://sf.net/projects/dev-cpp if you want dev-c++ |
| 04:48.11 | wizatmac2 | http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/express/support/faq/ |
| 04:48.19 | A_Meteorite | I first used Win95 then converted to Mac. |
| 04:48.21 | wizatmac2 | does dev-cpp work fully w/ bzflag? |
| 04:48.29 | lan56 | oh yes |
| 04:48.36 | A_Meteorite | so my knowledge on Windows is limited (because a lot has changed) |
| 04:49.05 | wizatmac2 | lan56: oh? |
| 04:49.19 | wizatmac2 | then why the hell am i trying to get VC2k5 to work!?! |
| 04:49.30 | lan56 | there is nothing wrong with vc++ |
| 04:49.35 | A_Meteorite | wow, it's free! |
| 04:49.37 | wizatmac2 | VC2k5 |
| 04:49.42 | lan56 | it is just as capable, I am only offereing an alternative |
| 04:49.43 | wizatmac2 | has some code issues |
| 04:50.16 | A_Meteorite | so if I get VC Express I can compile BZFlag? |
| 04:50.31 | A_Meteorite | *V Studio Express |
| 04:50.32 | wizatmac2 | not right now |
| 04:50.36 | A_Meteorite | ahh |
| 04:50.37 | wizatmac2 | you can compile plugins |
| 04:50.51 | wizatmac2 | but the code needs to be updated to work w/ VCe2k5 |
| 04:51.01 | A_Meteorite | I really wanted to compile everything, anything I can use? |
| 04:51.02 | wizatmac2 | Visual C Express 2005 |
| 04:51.09 | wizatmac2 | dev-cpp |
| 04:51.20 | A_Meteorite | link? |
| 04:51.30 | wizatmac2 | lan56http://sf.net/projects/dev-cpp if you want dev-c++ |
| 04:51.38 | A_Meteorite | thanks! :D |
| 04:51.50 | wizatmac2 | thank lan56 |
| 04:51.58 | wizatmac2 | i wouldn't have known about it unbless you asked |
| 04:52.00 | wizatmac2 | *unless |
| 04:52.04 | A_Meteorite | thanks lan56 |
| 04:52.27 | lan56 | vc++ is just as capable, however. I don't mean to distract from it as if it is inferior. no problem |
| 04:52.46 | A_Meteorite | ah, I need GCC, Mingw or Cygwin... |
| 04:52.56 | lan56 | it comes with the dev-c++ distribution |
| 04:53.00 | A_Meteorite | is that included? (sorry for all the questions) |
| 04:53.04 | A_Meteorite | ah, ok |
| 04:53.04 | lan56 | yes |
| 04:53.13 | lan56 | download dev-c++, install, ready to go |
| 04:53.28 | A_Meteorite | ok, thank you! |
| 04:53.51 | wizatmac2 | lan56: the reason i say not to use Visual C Express 2005 (if they want free) is becasue it depreicates some of the code/calls that the BZflag code uses |
| 04:53.57 | wizatmac2 | so it won't compile fully |
| 04:54.04 | lan56 | ahh I see |
| 04:54.17 | lan56 | A_Meteorite, remember to download bzflag source too ;) |
| 04:54.27 | A_Meteorite | can I still get Visual C and it not interfere with dev-cpp? |
| 04:54.38 | A_Meteorite | certain apps compile with one, others compile with the other |
| 04:54.50 | wizatmac2 | dunno |
| 04:54.57 | A_Meteorite | lan56, I know that ;) |
| 04:55.07 | lan56 | just making sure :) |
| 04:55.15 | A_Meteorite | hehe, I've done it before on the Mac |
| 04:55.20 | A_Meteorite | so used to the command-line |
| 04:55.29 | A_Meteorite | that I might miss it ;) |
| 04:55.32 | wizatmac2 | command line is simple |
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| 04:59.28 | A_Meteorite | I guess I will play some BZFlag. |
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| 04:59.49 | Lody | blast |
| 04:59.50 | A_Meteorite | Cya, later - thank you wizatmac and lan56! |
| 04:59.55 | Lody | hey |
| 04:59.58 | lan56 | all in the line of duty |
| 05:00.02 | Lody | a meteoite |
| 05:00.09 | A_Meteorite | yes? |
| 05:00.20 | A_Meteorite | oh, hi Lody |
| 05:00.32 | Lody | arnt you an admin for my server, names no guts no glory |
| 05:00.35 | A_Meteorite | never seen you before, but I guess a lot of people know me ;) |
| 05:00.43 | A_Meteorite | no... |
| 05:00.51 | A_Meteorite | never been there before |
| 05:00.57 | A_Meteorite | that I know of |
| 05:00.59 | Lody | well i got an a meteorite |
| 05:01.08 | Lody | server called all out war |
| 05:01.09 | A_Meteorite | uhhh, there is an imposter of me :| |
| 05:01.13 | Lody | lol |
| 05:01.13 | A_Meteorite | ah! that one! |
| 05:01.16 | Lody | yea |
| 05:01.23 | A_Meteorite | but I don't recall being admin there |
| 05:01.23 | Lody | i updated it |
| 05:01.29 | Lody | you are |
| 05:01.33 | A_Meteorite | I will go there and see. :D |
| 05:01.37 | Lody | according to my user files |
| 05:01.42 | A_Meteorite | wanna meet me there? |
| 05:01.46 | A_Meteorite | ahh |
| 05:01.49 | Lody | sure |
| 05:01.53 | A_Meteorite | ok, cya there |
| 05:01.57 | Lody | i got 4 bots running there now |
| 05:01.59 | Lody | so cya there |
| 05:02.00 | A_Meteorite | kk |
| 05:03.27 | A_Meteorite | hmmm |
| 05:03.31 | A_Meteorite | you there Lody? |
| 05:03.42 | A_Meteorite | I logged in, but as soon as I talk I get kicked |
| 05:03.58 | A_Meteorite | saying "server unexpectedly disconnected" |
| 05:04.13 | Lody | hmmmm |
| 05:04.14 | A_Meteorite | (I do remember it now, I forgot the server name) |
| 05:04.17 | Lody | weird |
| 05:04.28 | Lody | nightmare is sposed to be admin to |
| 05:04.31 | A_Meteorite | I can see the map, but I get the "press I or right click" |
| 05:04.34 | Lody | my server is goin crazt lol |
| 05:04.37 | A_Meteorite | then nothing |
| 05:04.43 | Lody | hmmm |
| 05:04.43 | A_Meteorite | if I talk I get kicked, lOL! |
| 05:04.55 | Lody | wait like 15 secs |
| 05:04.59 | A_Meteorite | kk |
| 05:05.03 | Lody | then give up lol |
| 05:05.03 | A_Meteorite | trying again |
| 05:05.13 | A_Meteorite | I'll join observer see if you can see me logged in |
| 05:06.18 | Lody | mmm |
| 05:06.19 | Lody | stange |
| 05:06.29 | A_Meteorite | still waiting |
| 05:06.39 | A_Meteorite | I don't have any @ and no one else is registered |
| 05:06.57 | Lody | ry now |
| 05:07.01 | Lody | i deleted you lol |
| 05:07.05 | Lody | from list |
| 05:07.08 | Lody | maybe? |
| 05:07.15 | A_Meteorite | did you /reload ? |
| 05:07.30 | A_Meteorite | can you even see if I joined? |
| 05:07.43 | A_Meteorite | I can't see any chat or any kills |
| 05:08.07 | A_Meteorite | but I can see everyone that is on the server. :| |
| 05:08.16 | A_Meteorite | *sigh* |
| 05:08.25 | wizatmac2 | lan56: have you compiled bzflag w/ dev-c++ |
| 05:08.26 | A_Meteorite | I guess I can try another server... |
| 05:08.26 | wizatmac2 | ? |
| 05:08.34 | A_Meteorite | sorry |
| 05:08.37 | lan56 | yes I maintain it |
| 05:08.42 | wizatmac2 | oh |
| 05:08.43 | wizatmac2 | how? |
| 05:08.58 | wizatmac2 | as i'm trying to figure out how to import all the different "sub-projects" |
| 05:09.18 | lan56 | there are no sub-projects. theres one project file for each application |
| 05:09.23 | wizatmac2 | oh |
| 05:09.24 | wizatmac2 | ok |
| 05:09.25 | lan56 | bzflag.dev builds bzflag, bzadmin.dev builds bzadmin |
| 05:09.31 | lan56 | they must be built separtaely |
| 05:09.34 | lan56 | *separately |
| 05:09.40 | wizatmac2 | alright |
| 05:09.46 | wizatmac2 | that makes sense now |
| 05:09.55 | lan56 | as for how I maintain, it is a well-kept secret :) |
| 05:10.01 | wizatmac2 | =0 |
| 05:10.06 | lan56 | family recipe |
| 05:10.33 | wizatmac2 | would you like to help a newbie out? |
| 05:10.34 | wizatmac2 | =)\ |
| 05:10.37 | wizatmac2 | =) |
| 05:10.45 | lan56 | sure I am more than willing to |
| 05:11.06 | wizatmac2 | oh awsome |
| 05:11.07 | wizatmac2 | alright |
| 05:11.16 | Lody | sorry |
| 05:11.23 | wizatmac2 | well, first i need to add the winSDK directories i think to dev-c++ |
| 05:11.41 | lan56 | no, it should be installed and ready to go |
| 05:11.52 | wizatmac2 | it's not detecting them |
| 05:12.03 | lan56 | hmm |
| 05:12.09 | lan56 | did you get the "full" install? |
| 05:12.17 | wizatmac2 | og dev-c++? |
| 05:12.18 | wizatmac2 | *of |
| 05:12.22 | lan56 | yes |
| 05:12.24 | wizatmac2 | yup |
| 05:12.53 | lan56 | are you able to copy and paste the error text? |
| 05:13.10 | wizatmac2 | oh |
| 05:13.11 | wizatmac2 | oops |
| 05:13.22 | wizatmac2 | forgot to include the "include" directory in bzflag |
| 05:14.17 | lan56 | is it working now? |
| 05:15.25 | lan56 | I think there may have been some bugs with the 2.0.4 project files, but I can't remember too well. if something horrible comes up, I can send you one that I know for sure works well |
| 05:15.33 | lan56 | not to say that the one you have doesnt work well |
| 05:16.06 | wizatmac2 | no, no joy |
| 05:16.20 | wizatmac2 | i got the V2_0branch |
| 05:16.41 | lan56 | so is it building? |
| 05:16.53 | wizatmac2 | no, it fails to build |
| 05:17.18 | lan56 | copy and paste the error on http://pastebin.ca |
| 05:17.27 | wizatmac2 | ok |
| 05:17.43 | wizatmac2 | let me try adding the bzflag include dir to the c includes as well |
| 05:18.04 | lan56 | I don't believe that is necessary tho |
| 05:18.10 | lan56 | but if it works why not I guess |
| 05:18.17 | wizatmac2 | yah, still errors |
| 05:18.17 | wizatmac2 | ok |
| 05:18.25 | lan56 | copy and paste |
| 05:18.51 | wizatmac2 | ok |
| 05:19.02 | wizatmac2 | er, is there anything else i should build *before* i try to build bzflag? |
| 05:19.26 | lan56 | no, it should be a touch-and-go thing |
| 05:19.29 | wizatmac2 | ok |
| 05:19.32 | wizatmac2 | found one error |
| 05:19.39 | wizatmac2 | that seems like it should clear up alot |
| 05:20.02 | wizatmac2 | there was a file called "config.h" that was in the vc71 die |
| 05:20.04 | wizatmac2 | *dir |
| 05:20.11 | wizatmac2 | that wasn't included in the build |
| 05:20.16 | wizatmac2 | so i pasted it in the included dier |
| 05:20.18 | wizatmac2 | *dir |
| 05:20.24 | wizatmac2 | and it *looks* like it's working |
| 05:20.30 | wizatmac2 | wow it is! |
| 05:20.32 | wizatmac2 | '=) |
| 05:20.36 | wizatmac2 | thanks! |
| 05:21.09 | lan56 | no problem. however, that is vc++ config.h therefore I cannot assure that it will work till the end, if it fails, I have files I know will work that are for the 2.0 line |
| 05:21.19 | wizatmac2 | ooh |
| 05:21.23 | wizatmac2 | forgot to install libcurl |
| 05:21.40 | lan56 | you can actually get that from within dev-c++ |
| 05:21.40 | wizatmac2 | woops |
| 05:21.43 | wizatmac2 | oh? |
| 05:21.45 | lan56 | using the update function |
| 05:21.54 | wizatmac2 | checking |
| 05:21.57 | lan56 | go to the tools menu |
| 05:21.59 | lan56 | in dev-c++ |
| 05:22.06 | lan56 | select "check for updates" in that tools menu |
| 05:22.44 | lan56 | select the devpaks.org server under the "select devpak server" thing |
| 05:23.14 | lan56 | click update, and then when the list shows up, look for the libcurl that should be the first one you see |
| 05:23.17 | wizatmac2 | oh awsome! |
| 05:23.23 | wizatmac2 | found libcurl w/o SSL |
| 05:23.25 | lan56 | I mean the first libcurl that you see, it won't be at the very top |
| 05:23.36 | lan56 | that will work I think |
| 05:24.01 | lan56 | brb in 20 mins |
| 05:24.07 | wizatmac2 | awsome |
| 05:24.10 | wizatmac2 | thank you very much lan56 |
| 05:24.19 | lan56 | no problem |
| 05:24.22 | lan56 | I can still help soon |
| 05:24.53 | wizatmac2 | alright |
| 05:25.02 | wizatmac2 | well, it should be clear sailing from here |
| 05:25.08 | wizatmac2 | hopefully |
| 05:25.16 | wizatmac2 | do you mind if i /msg you if i have any more problems? |
| 05:31.13 | wizatmac2 | lan56: it worked! You rock! =) |
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| 05:35.17 | wizatcomputer | mmm |
| 05:35.21 | wizatcomputer | didn't quite work |
| 05:35.26 | wizatcomputer | compiler error: " There must be something terribly wrong with your code. Please fix it. " |
| 05:36.14 | lan56 | feel free to /msg me at anytime, in the mean time copy and paste this list of errors (or at least a snippit) to the pastebin.ca link. I will brb again, going back and forth for a minute or two |
| 05:36.27 | lan56 | I am more than willing to help in any way convenient to you |
| 05:36.34 | wizatcomputer | alright |
| 05:36.35 | wizatcomputer | thanks |
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| 06:41.05 | cosmos | hrm |
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| 07:38.57 | JeffM2501 | ahh the joy of a late night windows install |
| 07:43.31 | wizatcomputer | wow |
| 07:43.35 | wizatcomputer | finally got it to compile |
| 07:43.41 | wizatcomputer | with dev-C++ |
| 07:45.25 | wizatcomputer | out |
| 07:45.28 | wizatcomputer | and thanks for the help |
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| 14:26.10 | ToughShooter | ~spell queue |
| 14:26.31 | SportChick | ToughShooter: there are many ways to spell depending on the context |
| 14:26.41 | SportChick | queue, cue |
| 14:26.45 | SportChick | for example |
| 14:27.15 | ToughShooter | :( |
| 14:28.17 | ToughShooter | Context is "walking" through an array where I only have access to the last element |
| 14:29.37 | SportChick | ToughShooter: hrm, I'm not sure |
| 14:29.45 | SportChick | is it like standing in a queue? |
| 14:30.00 | SportChick | or cueing someone to do something |
| 14:30.54 | ToughShooter | last in, first out principle, AFAIK |
| 14:32.01 | Thumper_ | queue most likely |
| 14:32.22 | Thumper_ | queue things up in a list |
| 14:32.39 | SportChick | ToughShooter: yes |
| 14:32.48 | SportChick | if it's what thumper means |
| 14:33.44 | Thumper_ | yeah (sorry should have tpu Toughshooter: on the front of that) |
| 14:33.46 | Thumper_ | :) |
| 14:33.52 | Thumper_ | tpu->put |
| 14:34.47 | ToughShooter | tnx :) |
| 14:37.26 | jpa- | morning thumpy |
| 14:37.36 | Thumper_ | afternoon jpa- |
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| 15:01.07 | Teppic | anyone know anything about normals in mbzw files? |
| 15:01.12 | Teppic | bzw* |
| 15:03.45 | jpa- | umm kinda |
| 15:03.49 | jpa- | let me recall :D |
| 15:04.18 | Teppic | What do they do, they arn't face normals |
| 15:04.36 | jpa- | uh, yes they are? |
| 15:04.51 | Aribeth | jpa- goes to total recall |
| 15:05.00 | Teppic | But in the face definition they require 3 sets of coorinates, a face normal is one set. |
| 15:05.21 | Teppic | coordinates* |
| 15:05.34 | jpa- | humm, it works like vertices-line |
| 15:05.45 | jpa- | first you define normals in mesh-level and then reference to them |
| 15:05.47 | Teppic | so they are the faces vertex normals? |
| 15:06.07 | jpa- | actually i don't know what they are used for :) |
| 15:06.33 | Teppic | Oh, they make uv textures look nicer, if they are the vertex normals. |
| 15:06.57 | jpa- | hmm |
| 15:07.03 | jpa- | in bzw manual page: |
| 15:07.04 | jpa- | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:07.10 | jpa- | hm yeah |
| 15:07.17 | jpa- | that example also has 5 vertices |
| 15:07.19 | Teppic | Well, thats what they normally do, vertex normals. |
| 15:07.24 | jpa- | you're probably right :) |
| 15:07.53 | Teppic | lol |
| 15:09.41 | trepan | per-vertex lighting normals |
| 15:10.05 | Teppic | and the point of that? |
| 15:10.54 | Aribeth | mornin trepan |
| 15:11.01 | trepan | controls diffuse and specular lighting interpolation |
| 15:11.03 | trepan | hi ari |
| 15:11.53 | Teppic | So using the 'real' vertex normal for each face would cull andy shadows? |
| 15:12.10 | Teppic | any* |
| 15:13.19 | Teppic | or allow shadows? |
| 15:14.42 | trepan | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phong_shading |
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| 15:15.48 | Teppic | ahh, allow lighting other than ambient to be rendered. |
| 15:17.16 | Teppic | While your here? |
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| 15:27.31 | trepan | (also used for 'smoothbounce' physics) |
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| 16:21.34 | brlcad | yay, Feierabend for Chestal |
| 16:21.51 | Chestal | it is? |
| 16:22.34 | brlcad | Chestal: yes, you have my permission ;) |
| 16:22.53 | brlcad | feel free to tell your boss that too |
| 16:23.34 | Chestal | if you enjoy German words, read http://andrewhammel.typepad.com/german_joys/german_word_of_the_week/index.html |
| 16:24.18 | brlcad | heh |
| 16:26.07 | Chestal | the articles on the main page about Germany are also quite interesting. Maybe more so when you live in Germany; getting a different perspective |
| 16:26.11 | brlcad | mmm.. Sitzfleisch |
| 16:26.21 | brlcad | that's me in meetings at work |
| 16:26.26 | Chestal | yep :-) |
| 16:27.41 | SportChick | ~lart brlcad for whimping out on a match |
| 16:28.08 | brlcad | heh, that would actually work |
| 16:28.23 | brlcad | if you were on unstable with the right list |
| 16:28.33 | blast007 | ;) |
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| 16:47.13 | brlcad | SportChick: you can't just expect me to jump right in after not playing for so long |
| 16:47.17 | brlcad | you're gonna scare me off :) |
| 16:49.21 | _Manu_ | /set _brlcadBzsentifive 0 |
| 16:53.58 | _Manu_ | /set _brlcadJumpingMode 1 |
| 17:02.43 | SportChick | brlcad: bah |
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| 17:30.36 | cosmos | hey meno |
| 17:30.56 | menotume | hi hi cosmos |
| 17:31.09 | menotume | Tux rulez :P |
| 17:31.13 | cosmos | hahaha |
| 17:31.29 | cosmos | one of our java developers challenged me to a fist fight over linux |
| 17:31.36 | menotume | lol |
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| 17:33.10 | cosmos | http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?t=5941 |
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| 18:35.51 | SportChick | bye all have a great week |
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| 18:59.29 | bz8197 | nice |
| 18:59.55 | bz8197 | but can't join other channels? |
| 19:11.20 | blast007 | a real IRC client can... |
| 19:12.01 | blast007 | or here: http://www.strayer.de/bzflag_irc_chat.php?lang=eng&css=0 |
| 19:12.26 | blast007 | CGI:IRC tends to be laggy though, and I would not recommend it be used on a regular basis ;) |
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| 19:22.40 | SilentSwan | :) |
| 19:36.14 | blast007 | seems my outerference causes CGI:IRC disruptions |
| 19:37.54 | orange | that seems like a faulty inference |
| 19:50.08 | Pimpi | !dict contemptible |
| 19:50.09 | Guu | Pimpi: wn, gcide, and moby-thes responded: wn: contemptible adj 1: deserving of contempt or scorn [ant: {estimable}] 2: worthy only of being despised and rejected; "a contemptible lack of courage"; "A little, wretched, despicable creature, a worm, a mere nothing...that has risen up in contempt against the majesty of Heaven and earth"- Jonathan Edwards [syn: {despicable}]; gcide: (7 more messages) |
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| 20:12.12 | Grumbler | isnt it ference buellers day off? |
| 20:14.03 | Grumbler | dont do it Birdie its a trap |
| 20:23.02 | jacques | any known issues with alsa 1.0.10rc3? |
| 20:23.34 | jacques | since I upgraded to that alsa, 2.6.14.2 preempt, I get a noticeable and verry annoying lag before sounds |
| 20:24.32 | Tupone | are you using alsa, I guess. Not odd emulation |
| 20:24.36 | Tupone | oss |
| 20:25.18 | jacques | correct, I am not using the oss emulation |
| 20:25.50 | Tupone | and no mixing plugin? |
| 20:26.06 | jacques | hmm, well I do have oss emulation built into alsa, how can I tell which interface bzflag is using? |
| 20:26.26 | Tupone | from the chat area |
| 20:26.32 | jacques | ah on startup, bzflag says "audio driver: alsa" |
| 20:26.38 | Tupone | ok |
| 20:26.47 | jacques | no software mixing that I am aware of... |
| 20:26.52 | Chestal | and no evil sound daemon which KDE or gnome seem to want to enforce on most people? |
| 20:26.58 | Chestal | ok |
| 20:27.20 | jacques | nope, I hate sounds daemons like arts and esd |
| 20:27.41 | Tupone | I should write an interface to jack :/ |
| 20:27.47 | jacques | ooooooh |
| 20:28.00 | jacques | that would rock |
| 20:28.33 | jacques | sounds seem to have changed since last time I played (which was a while ago) - like transporter sound is shorter and jump is different |
| 20:28.44 | jacques | is it possible there is a rate issue ? |
| 20:29.10 | Chestal | maybe if you played a looooong time ago |
| 20:29.19 | Chestal | some fies were resmapled for correct rate |
| 20:29.26 | Chestal | but that must have been years |
| 20:29.30 | jacques | yeah, years |
| 20:29.30 | Tupone | we fixed some problem (licesnse and rate) 1 and half year ago iirc |
| 20:31.14 | jacques | the lag is even there in the menu interface |
| 20:31.31 | jacques | maybe preempt is doing it |
| 20:31.54 | jacques | tho I would think it would help rather than harm |
| 20:33.24 | jacques | this is what I get for upgrading kernel, alsa, video, and wifi drivers all at once :-) |
| 20:34.14 | jacques | oh, and I'm pretty sure this is entirely ATI's fault, but I am getting these errors in messages: |
| 20:34.17 | jacques | Nov 23 14:30:54 t42 [fglrx:firegl_rmmap] *ERROR* map 0xf0056250 still in use (map_count=1) |
| 20:34.17 | jacques | Nov 23 14:30:54 t42 [fglrx:firegl_free_buffer_queue] *ERROR* buffer qeue 0xf0056240 still mapped |
| 20:37.04 | jacques | and this in terminal when bzflag exits: FATAL: fglX11FreeBuffer: firegl_FreeBuffer() failed! |
| 20:37.05 | orange | you sure it isn't some setting that got changed related to buffering (sound)? |
| 20:37.31 | jacques | orange, that's entirely possible - do you have any pointers for where I could check? |
| 20:38.01 | orange | unfortunately no... not for that system |
| 20:38.12 | orange | but I know many sound mixers build in a buffer |
| 20:38.19 | orange | cheating to make things easier, I guess |
| 20:39.36 | orange | like if you use arts (which is, I guess, the KDE sound system) it definitely has buffering settings |
| 20:43.05 | jacques | orange, yeah but I don't use arts or esd |
| 20:44.06 | DTRemenak | jump sound was replaced for 2.0 |
| 20:44.09 | jacques | and I've been looking at the various alsa config files and haven't found any software mixers (like dmix I guess) so far |
| 20:44.27 | DTRemenak | so it's not just your imagination :) |
| 20:44.34 | jacques | heh |
| 20:45.36 | jacques | I guess it's time to peruse the alsa forums |
| 20:48.29 | Chestal | hmm, I have alsa + oss emulation, bzflag says driver: dsp, I guess that means that SDL chose OSS emu? |
| 20:48.34 | Chestal | whatever, it works fine :-) |
| 20:50.03 | *** join/#bzflag CBG (n=CBG@cpc2-stme1-5-1-cust130.cdif.cable.ntl.com) |
| 20:51.24 | CBG | bzbb admins: http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?p=59831 |
| 20:54.43 | jacques | hmm I think I only build SDL with alsa |
| 20:55.18 | blast007 | CBG: hrm...stupid spammers :/ |
| 20:55.21 | jacques | yeah, I do |
| 20:56.14 | CBG | yes blast007 |
| 20:56.43 | blast007 | I almost clicked on the link, then read on ;D |
| 20:57.48 | CBG | The link is clearly that sort of link.. |
| 20:59.29 | jacques | hmm, I still think sounds may be playing too fast |
| 20:59.53 | jacques | at least the length of certain sounds seems much shorter than before - jump, transport, burrow |
| 21:02.17 | Tupone | Chestal: yes, you are using oss interface |
| 21:03.09 | jacques | and some sounds are very staticky |
| 21:03.19 | jacques | like jump |
| 21:05.08 | jacques | hmmmm, music in neverball is very staticky now too |
| 21:06.21 | Chestal | 2.6.14.2 also offers you to use a different HZ value, maybe that can cause problems, too. Just guessing |
| 21:06.49 | jacques | neverball alsa has the lag |
| 21:07.03 | jacques | Chestal, well, I chose 1000 HZ |
| 21:07.09 | jacques | I wonder if that was wrong... |
| 21:07.22 | jacques | (I thought that used to be the value) |
| 21:07.44 | Chestal | I am at 250 now, it used to be 100 |
| 21:08.17 | jacques | oh :-\ |
| 21:09.28 | Chestal | when I run withotu vsync, bzflag is not as smooth as it used to be now |
| 21:09.35 | Chestal | get a short glitch every now and then |
| 21:09.48 | Chestal | have been to lazy to try different HZ and prremption settings so far |
| 21:10.02 | jacques | well, that's rather time-consuming |
| 21:10.08 | jacques | I can relate |
| 21:11.09 | jacques | I guess I'll checkout alsa bug tracking and lists, then upgrade to 1.0.10 final, then worry about rebuilding kernel |
| 21:12.36 | jacques | https://bugtrack.alsa-project.org/alsa-bug/view.php?id=1538 |
| 21:12.47 | jacques | but according to that it should work for me |
| 21:13.35 | Tupone | jacques: that url require a login to me :/ |
| 21:15.03 | jacques | Tupone, oh sorry, I am on as a guest user - no account/password required - https://bugtrack.alsa-project.org/alsa-bug/login_page.php |
| 21:15.23 | jacques | click on Guest login (view only) is also available. |
| 21:15.45 | jacques | (it's rather slow) |
| 21:23.48 | *** join/#bzflag bz3654 (n=3f949803@webchat.bzflag.bz) |
| 21:23.56 | bz3654 | HELLO |
| 21:24.11 | Tupone | hi |
| 21:24.11 | CBG-busy | Bravo? |
| 21:24.20 | bz3654 | yah it's me |
| 21:24.27 | bz3654 | SWAIN |
| 21:24.33 | bz3654 | anyway |
| 21:25.13 | bz3654 | i was wondering how to SIMPLY chang the random map to one made in BZEDIT |
| 21:25.44 | orange | janis? |
| 21:25.47 | CBG-busy | I don't belive you can, but I bet i'm wrong. |
| 21:26.09 | bz3654 | ok thanks for trying but do you know anyway at all |
| 21:26.28 | CBG-busy | Afaik, you must use the bzflag server: bzfs. |
| 21:26.38 | CBG-busy | And that must be done through your command line. |
| 21:27.18 | bz3654 | i start it and it brings up DOS but are you saying to go into DOS and bring it up that way? |
| 21:27.48 | *** join/#bzflag Birdie (n=Birdie__@d54C34DE9.access.telenet.be) |
| 21:28.00 | CBG-busy | Don't think so, but I don't use windows, so I dunno. |
| 21:28.06 | CBG-busy | and hey Birdie buddy. :) |
| 21:28.11 | bz3654 | ok |
| 21:28.23 | bz3654 | i'm never gonna figure this out |
| 21:28.39 | bz3654 | sigh |
| 21:28.50 | CBG-busy | Read up about it on the forums. |
| 21:29.21 | bz3654 | do you know a good link to follow to get a compiler for bz? |
| 21:29.31 | orange | ~bzfs |
| 21:29.32 | ibot | well, bzfs is the BZflag server, you need: -publicaddr server.name.com:5154 *and* -public " come play here" must be set in your bzfs.conf, *also* open the port (5154 in this case) in your firewall/router *also* see http://www.bzflag.org/wiki/CreatingAServer, or see http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?t=2915 |
| 21:29.42 | orange | lots of good info found in those links |
| 21:30.21 | CBG-busy | also look at my post here: http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?t=3798 at the links under "Server Help" |
| 21:30.25 | bz3654 | thanks i'll try |
| 21:31.24 | bz3654 | oh i have seen those i stil need to read |
| 21:31.41 | CBG-busy | bz3654: are you janis? |
| 21:31.50 | *** join/#bzflag mmu_man (i=revol@ALyon-253-1-2-15.w83-201.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 21:31.51 | bz3654 | thank you all you are helpful\nno |
| 21:31.55 | bz3654 | no |
| 21:32.01 | bz3654 | BRAVO |
| 21:32.05 | CBG-busy | ok, :) |
| 21:32.11 | bz3654 | of the SWAIN DEVILS |
| 21:32.19 | CBG-busy | ok, :) |
| 21:32.37 | bz3654 | YAH got our butts kicked 3 times by HOW |
| 21:32.55 | CBG-busy | HOW can kick the butts of most teams, dont worry about it. :) |
| 21:33.04 | bz3654 | I'm Team leader |
| 21:33.09 | bz3654 | cool that helps |
| 21:33.25 | bz3654 | Know anyone crappy |
| 21:33.35 | *** join/#bzflag DTRemenak (n=DTRemena@DHCP-170-143.caltech.edu) |
| 21:33.35 | *** mode/#bzflag [+v DTRemenak] by ChanServ |
| 21:33.37 | CBG-busy | heh, look at the team list at the league... :) |
| 21:33.48 | bz3654 | yah and |
| 21:34.12 | CBG-busy | bz3654: and the ones near the bottom are the worst, so try to match them... |
| 21:34.20 | CBG-busy | or go on matching good teams to gain experience. |
| 21:34.30 | bz3654 | oh of course |
| 21:34.33 | bz3654 | that was my plan |
| 21:34.38 | DTRemenak | hi CBG-busy |
| 21:34.44 | bz3654 | learn from the best |
| 21:34.46 | CBG-busy | in theory, if you keep matching them, you will be as good as them one day, though that may take many years. :) |
| 21:35.13 | bz3654 | my teamates suck |
| 21:35.29 | bz3654 | they curse when they lose and give up |
| 21:35.34 | bz3654 | big babys |
| 21:35.37 | CBG-busy | heh. |
| 21:36.18 | bz3654 | i'm the best on my team and i would give myself a 6 out of 10 |
| 21:36.32 | Ice_Wewe | how can I get an object generated by wings to have a linear effect? |
| 21:36.47 | bz3654 | hu |
| 21:36.57 | bz3654 | ohhh |
| 21:37.01 | bz3654 | wings 3d |
| 21:37.19 | Ice_Wewe | I've exported it to .bzw, and I'm editing it, and I'm trying to get it so a cynlinder makes people jump, but it's not working... |
| 21:37.19 | bz3654 | or wings the flag |
| 21:37.26 | Ice_Wewe | bz3654: the program |
| 21:37.39 | Ice_Wewe | physics |
| 21:37.39 | Ice_Wewe | name jump |
| 21:37.39 | Ice_Wewe | linear 0.0 0.0 35.0 |
| 21:37.39 | Ice_Wewe | end |
| 21:37.46 | Ice_Wewe | there is my physics driver |
| 21:37.48 | bz3654 | i am a master a gmax |
| 21:37.51 | Ice_Wewe | group tramp |
| 21:37.51 | Ice_Wewe | pos 0 0 0 |
| 21:37.51 | Ice_Wewe | scale 10 10 10 |
| 21:37.51 | Ice_Wewe | phydrv jump |
| 21:37.51 | Ice_Wewe | end |
| 21:37.56 | Ice_Wewe | there is my trampoline |
| 21:38.00 | Ice_Wewe | why isn't it working? |
| 21:38.27 | bz3654 | GMAX is Best next to 3DS MAX |
| 21:38.27 | CBG-busy | should the pydrver be called "physics" and the reference to it be "phydrv" ? |
| 21:38.36 | CBG-busy | I can't remember, been so long since I mapped.. |
| 21:38.41 | bz3654 | all else is pitiful |
| 21:39.21 | Ice_Wewe | bz3654: it has to run on linux for me to even consider it |
| 21:39.35 | bz3654 | ouch low blow |
| 21:39.42 | Ice_Wewe | CBG-busy: well I looked in the (/me waves back at Aribeth) wiki file, and it says to do it like I am |
| 21:39.58 | bz3654 | are you an Open source freak |
| 21:39.59 | Aribeth | lol |
| 21:40.04 | Ice_Wewe | CBG-busy: I've used it on other maps, the only difference is on the other maps the objects were meshboxes |
| 21:40.04 | Aribeth | i am |
| 21:40.07 | Ice_Wewe | bz3654: yes, I am. |
| 21:40.14 | Tupone | I am too :) |
| 21:40.23 | Aribeth | no windowz here |
| 21:40.32 | bz3654 | oh man my fund of tech teacher is like that |
| 21:40.45 | bz3654 | very funny |
| 21:40.49 | Tupone | Ice_Wewe: I don't want your hugs, while appreciate Aribeth's |
| 21:40.53 | Ice_Wewe | Aribeth: hehe, I bought a PC with Windows 98SE, used it for about a week (I was supposed to use it forever) and wiped it for linux |
| 21:41.02 | Ice_Wewe | Tupone: ouch man. Major ouch |
| 21:41.11 | Aribeth | :) |
| 21:41.26 | Ice_Wewe | Aribeth: maybe you know the answer |
| 21:41.27 | bz3654 | oh man |
| 21:41.46 | Aribeth | what would be the question? |
| 21:41.51 | bz3654 | i will admit XP SUCKS |
| 21:42.17 | bz3654 | ok |
| 21:42.18 | Ice_Wewe | exclaims* |
| 21:42.22 | bz3654 | good for HIM |
| 21:42.23 | Aribeth | ohhh |
| 21:42.27 | Ice_Wewe | shoot, I can't type forshizzle today |
| 21:42.38 | Ice_Wewe | Aribeth: get a cynlinder to move my tankie |
| 21:42.40 | Aribeth | well |
| 21:42.52 | Aribeth | eek |
| 21:42.55 | bz3654 | i'm on a crap keyboard at my job |
| 21:42.57 | Ice_Wewe | Aribeth: I would just use a hovietankie, but Jeffieweffie is holding out on me |
| 21:43.09 | Ice_Wewe | bz3654: that's nice, go back to doing what ever you do |
| 21:43.18 | bz3654 | punk |
| 21:43.22 | Ice_Wewe | bz3654: oh yea. |
| 21:43.26 | Aribeth | :P |
| 21:43.26 | Ice_Wewe | Nooo! |
| 21:43.36 | bz3654 | i challenge you to a BZ face off |
| 21:43.36 | CIA-2 | BZFlag: 03atupone * 10bzflag/ (4 files in 4 dirs): Ares debug messages are related to addresses, not players. |
| 21:43.37 | *** join/#bzflag Thumper_ (n=bernt@CPE000102d0fe75-CM0012256ecbde.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 21:43.39 | Ice_Wewe | Forshizzle! I've done it again! |
| 21:43.44 | CBG-busy | Ice_Wewe the punk. hah! |
| 21:44.02 | Ice_Wewe | bz3654: nah, you're at work, and I have maps to be making before I am forced to use my 50% laptop for half a week |
| 21:44.17 | Ice_Wewe | CBG-busy: oh yea, I'm a hard-core punk ;) |
| 21:44.19 | bz3654 | god |
| 21:44.28 | Aribeth | j/k |
| 21:44.29 | CBG-busy | far out, dude. |
| 21:44.30 | bz3654 | TURNY |
| 21:44.59 | Aribeth | don't eat that yellow snow |
| 21:45.13 | Aribeth | oh im bad today |
| 21:45.17 | Aribeth | :P |
| 21:45.30 | Aribeth | im j/k Ice_Wewe |
| 21:45.32 | Ice_Wewe | the only reason I call it my 50% laptop is because it has 50% of the computie power that this PC does (without #@$ppy HT enabled) |
| 21:45.35 | *** join/#bzflag gsnedders (n=geoffrey@host86-139-127-22.range86-139.btcentralplus.com) |
| 21:45.40 | bz3654 | Monday 11/28/05 dub 59998 3:00est |
| 21:45.47 | Ice_Wewe | Aribeth: I know, most females would have stopped at "oh im bad today" |
| 21:46.19 | Aribeth | ya, but i broke the mold :) |
| 21:46.20 | Ice_Wewe | Aribeth: I'm running from intelie to AMD64ie as fast as my legsies can carries me |
| 21:46.34 | Aribeth | ahh |
| 21:46.40 | Aribeth | defector! |
| 21:46.45 | Aribeth | hehe |
| 21:46.48 | Ice_Wewe | Aribeth: I believe the quote goes like this: "oh im bad today" |
| 21:46.56 | Aribeth | lol |
| 21:46.59 | bz3654 | oh wait my house closes that day at 3:00 |
| 21:47.04 | Ice_Wewe | Aribeth: you know it... I'd sell my P4 for a dougnut after I go to AMD |
| 21:47.06 | bz3654 | what team are you on? |
| 21:47.15 | Ice_Wewe | bz3654: Ice Tanks... we don't have any members |
| 21:47.22 | Aribeth | its that old? |
| 21:47.36 | Ice_Wewe | Aribeth: no, it's 6 months old, I just plain hate intel |
| 21:47.41 | Ice_Wewe | Aribeth: 3Ghz |
| 21:47.42 | bz3654 | i'll send you a bzmail |
| 21:47.53 | bz3654 | on where and when |
| 21:47.59 | Ice_Wewe | bz3654: I'll send you a bza**kicking, sound good? |
| 21:48.07 | Aribeth | getting a dual opteron? |
| 21:48.21 | bz3654 | i'll smear you |
| 21:48.24 | Ice_Wewe | Aribeth: HAHA! Since when has Yellow Snow been worth that much? |
| 21:48.31 | Aribeth | hehe |
| 21:48.37 | Ice_Wewe | bz3654: I know. Which is why I don't play CTF that much |
| 21:49.00 | Ice_Wewe | Aribeth: all this Yellow Snow can get me is a 3200+ Single Core |
| 21:49.07 | bz3654 | we dont need CTF hows 1vs1 |
| 21:49.14 | Aribeth | o.O |
| 21:49.22 | Ice_Wewe | bz3654: hows about no? I just plain suck at 1vs1 |
| 21:49.37 | Ice_Wewe | Aribeth: what? it's much better than intel, I can probably OC to 6Ghz (stock is 2) |
| 21:49.39 | bz3654 | what are you any good at then doing your mom |
| 21:49.53 | Ice_Wewe | Aribeth: I OC my intel by 10%, and I run 5C hotter! |
| 21:50.08 | gsnedders | i plain suck at 1v1.. and i've got sore hands ::P |
| 21:50.13 | gsnedders | and can\t even type |
| 21:50.13 | Ice_Wewe | Aribeth: so I get 300mhz for 5 degrees (hmm, lets comput this for a second, NO!) |
| 21:50.17 | Aribeth | ~lart bz3654 |
| 21:50.22 | Ice_Wewe | hehe |
| 21:50.55 | SilentSwan | intel must die. |
| 21:50.56 | ToughShooter | What? No more AOL CDs? :o |
| 21:51.03 | gsnedders | LMAO |
| 21:51.04 | bz3654 | i will say one thing Firefox rocks |
| 21:51.12 | Aribeth | the conversation should not make references to anyone's mon! |
| 21:51.14 | gsnedders | i will say one thing Safari rocks |
| 21:51.20 | bz3654 | otherwise Linux is no good |
| 21:51.23 | Ice_Wewe | bz3654: wouldn't know, I'm not a perv... ;) (though the girs in the locker rooms will not agree with that... Aribeth) |
| 21:51.36 | Aribeth | hehe |
| 21:51.38 | Ice_Wewe | girls* |
| 21:51.53 | Ice_Wewe | god, I cannot type while eating a pickle! |
| 21:52.03 | Aribeth | firefox sucks |
| 21:52.09 | SilentSwan | why? |
| 21:52.10 | Ice_Wewe | bz3654: neither was your mom, so we're even... |
| 21:52.13 | bz3654 | your boyfriends PICKLE |
| 21:52.36 | Ice_Wewe | Aribeth: if you don't use firefox, then what do you use? |
| 21:52.43 | Aribeth | i've had problems with it |
| 21:52.45 | Ice_Wewe | Aribeth: god, not another Opera fan.... |
| 21:52.49 | bz3654 | explorer |
| 21:52.50 | Aribeth | nope |
| 21:52.55 | SilentSwan | not many alternatives |
| 21:53.02 | Ice_Wewe | bz3654: GOD?! How can you sleep at night? |
| 21:53.05 | Aribeth | Konquer |
| 21:53.09 | Ice_Wewe | Aribeth: lol on this comic (let me find it) |
| 21:53.15 | Ice_Wewe | Aribeth: that's a good one for file management |
| 21:53.17 | SilentSwan | i'll keep using firefox, thanks :) |
| 21:53.18 | *** join/#bzflag awelux__ (n=wizart@dslb-084-058-141-162.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 21:53.25 | Ice_Wewe | SilentSwan: hehe |
| 21:53.38 | SilentSwan | if safari had anything going for it, it's speed |
| 21:53.52 | bz3654 | I have stolen microsoft so it is technicially the same as linux just diff os |
| 21:53.52 | SilentSwan | but it totally lacks a lot of the nice things you can do with firefox, like proper adblocking,e tc... |
| 21:53.54 | Aribeth | i still use firefox, just saying it sucks |
| 21:53.56 | CBG-busy | Safari rocks. Period... |
| 21:54.09 | ToughShooter | Safari is actually a rather bad browser, only its rendering engine is good |
| 21:54.16 | SilentSwan | yes |
| 21:54.27 | gsnedders | what's wrong with it? |
| 21:54.28 | ToughShooter | That's why I use Firefox |
| 21:54.31 | bz3654 | got to go what was your team again? |
| 21:54.41 | Aribeth | bz3654, windows is just a linux wanabe. it sucks ************* |
| 21:54.53 | bz3654 | not when it is FREEEEEE |
| 21:54.59 | Ice_Wewe | Aribeth: http://ctrlaltdel-online.com/comic.php?d=2004-07-14 |
| 21:55.15 | CBG-busy | Firefox is too slow and chunky for me. |
| 21:55.28 | bz3654 | what do you use |
| 21:55.29 | Aribeth | my linux was completly free. windows is what $300.00? |
| 21:55.38 | bz3654 | not mine |
| 21:55.41 | bz3654 | stolen |
| 21:55.42 | Ice_Wewe | CBG-busy: Safari sucks. Period.... I mean we traded tabs for RSS, are you aware of the term "THAT DOES NOT COMPUTE!" |
| 21:55.47 | bz3654 | more like given |
| 21:55.59 | CBG-busy | Ice_Wewe: I have no problems with my safari. |
| 21:56.08 | Ice_Wewe | bz3654: if I were you, I wouldn't go steeling the devils stuff, he tends to lash back with good force |
| 21:56.10 | CBG-busy | I do not wish it had any other feature. |
| 21:56.15 | gsnedders | bz3654: how can you compare a piece of software legally owned, with one that is illegally owned |
| 21:56.19 | Ice_Wewe | CBG-busy: well I hate that it doesn't have tabs, I LIVE off of tabs |
| 21:56.28 | CBG-busy | Safari has no tabs? |
| 21:56.29 | Ice_Wewe | Aribeth: look at that comic yet? |
| 21:56.32 | Aribeth | I have worked on windows profesionaly and it sucks |
| 21:56.32 | CBG-busy | Hah, moron... :P |
| 21:56.32 | bz3654 | i cant really |
| 21:56.38 | gsnedders | Since when did safari not have tabs? |
| 21:56.50 | Ice_Wewe | gsnedders: Since 10.4 |
| 21:56.54 | CBG-busy | gsnedders, probably a few years back before any other browser did. :) |
| 21:56.55 | gsnedders | umm... |
| 21:56.56 | gsnedders | no... |
| 21:56.57 | bz3654 | i honestly would have linux if it wernt for GMAX |
| 21:56.59 | ToughShooter | tabs came later, IIRC |
| 21:57.07 | bz3654 | GMAX |
| 21:57.11 | gsnedders | Safari 2 has RSS, Atom and tabs! |
| 21:57.12 | bz3654 | GMAX |
| 21:57.22 | bz3654 | GMAX |
| 21:57.24 | Aribeth | Ice_Wewe hehe |
| 21:57.27 | ToughShooter | I think first version didn't had tabs |
| 21:57.28 | CBG-busy | ToughShooter: later than what? |
| 21:57.32 | Ice_Wewe | CBG-busy, gsnedders, ToughShooter, Safari 2 DOES NOT have tabs, and if so, tell me how to freaking activate them! |
| 21:57.44 | bz3654 | go to go BOSS |
| 21:57.47 | Ice_Wewe | Aribeth: like it? I did. Almost made Yellow Snow laughing |
| 21:57.54 | Aribeth | lol |
| 21:58.01 | Ice_Wewe | Aribeth: :D |
| 21:58.15 | gsnedders | Ice_Wewe: http://geoffers.uni.cc/saf2.png - complete out of the box safari install! |
| 21:58.29 | ToughShooter | Ice_Wewe: Don't tell anyone about the prefs window, it's a secret |
| 21:58.32 | Aribeth | after working on windows for 5 years, i have concluded that i will never work on it again |
| 21:58.42 | CBG-busy | Ice_Wewe: Look at apples page on safari: http://www.apple.com/macosx/features/safari/ |
| 21:58.53 | Aribeth | stability wise it sucks |
| 21:58.57 | CBG-busy | There is a screenshot there which does NOT show tabs, clearly. |
| 21:59.01 | Ice_Wewe | CBG-busy, ToughShooter, gsnedders ok, so why doesn't MINE work?! |
| 21:59.15 | CBG-busy | Cause its YOURS? |
| 21:59.17 | Ice_Wewe | Grrr! |
| 21:59.20 | gsnedders | Ice_Wewe: Preferences? Tabs? |
| 21:59.29 | Ice_Wewe | CBG-busy: hey! You can't call in that! That's unfair!!! |
| 21:59.39 | Aribeth | service pac 2 just breaks windows more than it was when it was installed |
| 22:00.33 | Ice_Wewe | gsnedders: @#$*&#$(*%&(*$#&%(*#&(*&$(*#&(*$&@#(*&$(#@%&!!!!!!!!!! Why didn't this come default?! |
| 22:00.47 | Ice_Wewe | (don't worry, it came from my keyboard as those characters) |
| 22:00.51 | gsnedders | Ice_Wewe: why are you asking me? |
| 22:00.53 | gsnedders | :P |
| 22:00.56 | gsnedders | I haven't a clue. |
| 22:01.00 | Ice_Wewe | gsnedders: dunno, why aren't I asking you? |
| 22:01.04 | Ice_Wewe | brb, Simpsons... |
| 22:01.07 | gsnedders | what do I have to do with Apple :P |
| 22:01.18 | Aribeth | ewww, the symtoms |
| 22:01.35 | ToughShooter | Aribeth: From what I've heard it does not brake that much (nor improve), just change stuff ;) |
| 22:01.54 | Ice_Wewe | Aribeth: if you don't like the Simpsons I will loose all respect for you and uhhh..... how do you punch a girl? |
| 22:02.08 | Ice_Wewe | bbl |
| 22:02.58 | Aribeth | sp2 will slow windows down, and it adds many security enhancmente that render some apps broken until you figure out how to fix the settings |
| 22:03.14 | Aribeth | the firewall can cause problems |
| 22:03.37 | Aribeth | no punching Ari |
| 22:04.44 | Aribeth | aww, and i was gona cast a spell on him :P |
| 22:04.50 | CBG-busy | oh, ok |
| 22:05.02 | Aribeth | hummm....he may look god as a frog |
| 22:05.34 | CBG-busy | agreed. |
| 22:05.46 | ToughShooter | "god"? :o |
| 22:06.02 | CBG-busy | no. "frog". |
| 22:07.56 | Aribeth | :P |
| 22:08.17 | SilentSwan | unfortunately i now have to work with windows systems on a regular basis again... i do everything i can to avoid it... but.. not much choice. |
| 22:08.21 | Aribeth | if im not here let him know |
| 22:08.59 | Aribeth | that will teach him to think about hitting a girl |
| 22:09.15 | CBG-busy | Aribeths a girl? o.O heh :P |
| 22:09.27 | Aribeth | im all girl baybe |
| 22:09.36 | Aribeth | im 52 on Sunday |
| 22:09.43 | SilentSwan | i just hit back |
| 22:09.47 | CBG-busy | hey hey baby :) |
| 22:09.48 | SilentSwan | happy birthday |
| 22:09.52 | Aribeth | tkx |
| 22:09.57 | Aribeth | i just get even |
| 22:10.04 | CBG-busy | not sunday yet, SilentSwan |
| 22:10.32 | SilentSwan | well, in case i'm not here sunday, i'll say it in advance :) |
| 22:10.44 | CBG-busy | hmm, a wonderful idea. |
| 22:10.52 | CBG-busy | happy birthday Aribeth baby. ;) |
| 22:11.02 | SilentSwan | i stopped having birthdays |
| 22:11.10 | SilentSwan | i figured that way i cannot get older |
| 22:11.46 | CBG-busy | This is true... |
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| 22:47.08 | CIA-2 | BZFlag: 03atupone * 10bzflag/ (3 files in 3 dirs): NetHandler is going to be less related to player, just to network |
| 23:12.41 | SilentSwan | well, finally my idiotic incompetent backstabbing sh*t-for-brains "co-worker" *%^^#$*($er has left... |
| 23:13.03 | SilentSwan | some peace at last |
| 23:13.11 | SilentSwan | <- doesn't mince words |
| 23:14.15 | cosmos | hahah |
| 23:14.18 | cosmos | what did they do |
| 23:15.07 | SilentSwan | ohhh it's a long story... one of the things is, i've nailed him for downloading pirated crap over our net connection |
| 23:15.13 | SilentSwan | constantly |
| 23:15.27 | SilentSwan | and he doens't know i fingered him, but i'm sure he "knows"... |
| 23:15.35 | *** part/#bzflag ToughShooter (n=ts@p54B03025.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 23:16.08 | SilentSwan | basically, i said "you're not hosting a f*ing torrent site on my network" and pulled his plug |
| 23:16.19 | SilentSwan | guess that generated a bit of bad blood. ah well |
| 23:17.16 | SilentSwan | this place is ridiculous and it brings out my attitude something fierce... and i'm already a walking-talking case of perpetual PMS as it is |
| 23:17.36 | cosmos | heh |
| 23:17.44 | SilentSwan | sorry, just venting a bit :) |
| 23:17.48 | cosmos | we caught a guy hosting multiple terabytes of porn at our place |
| 23:18.04 | cosmos | he had swiped almost 5 shelves from an emc we had retired but had not decommed yet |
| 23:18.09 | jacques | terabytes?? |
| 23:18.33 | SilentSwan | omg |
| 23:18.34 | cosmos | yep we migrated from an emc to a boatload of netapp storage |
| 23:18.43 | cosmos | he "siezed the day" |
| 23:18.44 | SilentSwan | i'm hoping he lost his job |
| 23:18.51 | cosmos | he got promoted |
| 23:18.54 | SilentSwan | figures |
| 23:19.16 | cosmos | now hes manger of project management |
| 23:19.18 | cosmos | hahaha |
| 23:19.31 | SilentSwan | first project: file server |
| 23:20.50 | cosmos | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:20.52 | SilentSwan | i mean, a) you've seen one, you've seen 99% of them, b) the real thing is better |
| 23:21.28 | cosmos | unfortunately for most of those types the real thing wont talk to them unless they fork over $100 and prove they are not a cop |
| 23:21.39 | SilentSwan | right |
| 23:23.12 | jacques | heh |
| 23:24.51 | jacques | well, gotta reboot to see if new kernel config fixes my sound problems |
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| 23:24.59 | cosmos | the joys of linux |
| 23:25.14 | cosmos | speaking of joy i should fire up my netapp |
| 23:50.26 | DTRemenak | AutoCompleter.cxx:110: no matching function for call to `basic_string<char,string_char_traits<char>,__default_alloc_template<false,0> >::clear ()' |
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