| 00:01.10 | SilentSwan | good heavens, this thing is noisy |
| 00:02.52 | JeffM2501 | what did you end up geting? |
| 00:03.08 | SilentSwan | a home-brew |
| 00:03.14 | JeffM2501 | I know that :) |
| 00:03.18 | JeffM2501 | but what |
| 00:03.23 | SilentSwan | amd 4000+, asus a8n-sli, nvidia 6800Gt |
| 00:03.28 | JeffM2501 | nice |
| 00:03.33 | SilentSwan | yep |
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| 00:03.40 | JeffM2501 | went single core then |
| 00:03.42 | SilentSwan | and lots of high-cfm fans |
| 00:03.46 | SilentSwan | yeah |
| 00:03.51 | JeffM2501 | it should not run THAT hot |
| 00:03.57 | JeffM2501 | the new ones run very cool |
| 00:04.03 | SilentSwan | no, but this room gets toasty with all this other stuff |
| 00:04.10 | JeffM2501 | the 6800 is a better chip then the 600 |
| 00:04.14 | JeffM2501 | more pixel pipes |
| 00:04.40 | bryjen | the one about heat |
| 00:04.47 | JeffM2501 | the new AMDs don't run very hot at all |
| 00:04.55 | JeffM2501 | and neether should the 6800 |
| 00:04.59 | SilentSwan | 35C cpu temp right now :) |
| 00:05.05 | JeffM2501 | yeah that's about what I run |
| 00:05.06 | SilentSwan | of course, it's not doing anything yet, either |
| 00:05.13 | JeffM2501 | I can't get it over 40 |
| 00:05.16 | JeffM2501 | even OCing it |
| 00:05.53 | bryjen | i thought i read somewhere that heat has been one of the things holding back Intel dual-core |
| 00:06.05 | SilentSwan | i may do SATA RAID in here |
| 00:06.11 | SilentSwan | not sure yet if it's wroth it |
| 00:06.13 | SilentSwan | worth |
| 00:07.13 | RPG_ | mmmmmmmmm chuck...... |
| 00:07.22 | SilentSwan | heh |
| 00:08.17 | bryjen | !lart 1 RPG_ |
| 00:08.40 | SilentSwan | oooh ouch |
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| 00:23.10 | SilentSwan | ok, so what's a good hostname? |
| 00:23.33 | RPG_ | silentswan.dyndns.com |
| 00:23.45 | SilentSwan | no... i mean for a local machine :) |
| 00:23.49 | Roxport | spongebob? |
| 00:24.04 | Roxport | cujo |
| 00:24.11 | SilentSwan | nah... i've got "sparky", "saturn", "jupiter", "cpx" already in use |
| 00:24.16 | Roxport | cool |
| 00:24.21 | Roxport | uranus |
| 00:24.23 | SilentSwan | so... not really much of a theme |
| 00:24.26 | SilentSwan | Roxport :P |
| 00:24.28 | SilentSwan | no |
| 00:24.30 | SilentSwan | hehe |
| 00:24.39 | Roxport | andromeda |
| 00:24.44 | Roxport | lexus |
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| 00:25.08 | SilentSwan | hmm |
| 00:25.10 | Roxport | roxport |
| 00:25.10 | SilentSwan | andromeda |
| 00:25.12 | SilentSwan | i like that |
| 00:25.34 | Roxport | bert and ernie |
| 00:26.00 | Roxport | cool |
| 00:28.28 | SilentSwan | sata drives show up as scsi "/dev/sdN" right? |
| 00:28.35 | SilentSwan | or are they hd? |
| 00:29.12 | SilentSwan | yeah, must be sd... |
| 00:33.43 | JeffM2501 | they are sd |
| 00:33.49 | SilentSwan | yep |
| 00:33.57 | SilentSwan | my goodness, this thing is FAST |
| 00:34.01 | SilentSwan | :) |
| 00:34.39 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10tools/bzedit/src/worldDrawing.cpp: start using real drawing data for boxes |
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| 00:35.38 | SilentSwan | CQ |
| 00:35.53 | kc9foh | cq |
| 00:36.05 | RPG_ | ICQ |
| 00:36.07 | kc9foh | hello from illinois |
| 00:36.14 | RPG_ | hello from illinois |
| 00:36.22 | SilentSwan | hello from illinois :) |
| 00:36.35 | JeffM2501 | my there are a lot of you |
| 00:36.38 | SilentSwan | where in illinois, kc9foh? |
| 00:36.43 | RPG_ | chicago is like a magnet |
| 00:36.46 | SilentSwan | JeffM2501 it's a takeover... |
| 00:36.49 | kc9foh | South beloit |
| 00:36.52 | SilentSwan | oh ok |
| 00:36.55 | RPG_ | all those metal skyscrapers... |
| 00:36.56 | SilentSwan | <- downers grove |
| 00:37.04 | RPG_ | <- glen ellyn |
| 00:37.07 | JeffM2501 | I dono, 3 of you, 4 of us |
| 00:37.08 | SilentSwan | brb |
| 00:37.08 | kc9foh | north of rockford |
| 00:37.13 | RPG_ | ahh |
| 00:37.14 | RPG_ | rockford |
| 00:37.17 | Roxport | files |
| 00:37.22 | kc9foh | nheh |
| 00:37.23 | SilentSwan | yeah, been through there on the way to wisconsin :) |
| 00:37.43 | kc9foh | nmy house is 4 blocks from wisconsin |
| 00:37.44 | RPG_ | i also live in Apple River, Illinois on some summer weekends |
| 00:37.45 | Roxport | cheese - yummy |
| 00:37.51 | RPG_ | Packers -- ewwww |
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| 00:41.36 | SilentSwan | RPG_ ever been to tiger direct in naperville? |
| 00:41.43 | SilentSwan | correction: naperTHRILL |
| 00:41.46 | RPG_ | that's a place? |
| 00:41.49 | SilentSwan | yes |
| 00:41.51 | RPG_ | i thought it was just a website |
| 00:41.54 | SilentSwan | right by fox valley mall |
| 00:41.57 | RPG_ | oh |
| 00:42.02 | RPG_ | they got really cheap sutff |
| 00:42.04 | SilentSwan | i forget the street, but there's a Target there |
| 00:42.09 | SilentSwan | right on the same corner off 59 |
| 00:42.11 | RPG_ | google earth knows where it is :) |
| 00:42.24 | SilentSwan | complete with sattelite view :) |
| 00:42.37 | kc9foh | I have just bought stuff from there |
| 00:42.39 | SilentSwan | yeah, i was there today... got a deal on CPU and motherboard... $50 off each |
| 00:42.45 | RPG_ | sweet |
| 00:42.49 | RPG_ | i gotta get off this AGP crap |
| 00:42.59 | kc9foh | bad part still have to pay tax |
| 00:43.07 | SilentSwan | god, i hate naperville traffic |
| 00:43.30 | RPG_ | naperville was ranked one of the top 5 places to live in the country |
| 00:43.36 | SilentSwan | i know |
| 00:43.41 | SilentSwan | i cannot for the life of me see why |
| 00:43.44 | kc9foh | i dont mind the traffic its just the tolls |
| 00:43.46 | SilentSwan | i almost moved there |
| 00:44.07 | kc9foh | houses cost too much down there |
| 00:44.24 | RPG_ | i lived in downers grove until i was 5 |
| 00:44.41 | RPG_ | 6200 janes avenue |
| 00:44.45 | kc9foh | how much is gas there |
| 00:45.59 | kc9foh | masteryoda and giepeto are from Milwaukee area if you play them |
| 00:46.17 | RPG_ | the property tax in glenellyn is really bad |
| 00:46.35 | kc9foh | I will stay up here then |
| 00:46.46 | RPG_ | in downers grove it's nice though |
| 00:46.50 | RPG_ | that's why i forsee moving there |
| 00:47.01 | kc9foh | 400.00 a year here for property tax |
| 00:47.13 | RPG_ | 19,000 a year here for property tax |
| 00:47.17 | RPG_ | yes, that's a comma |
| 00:47.19 | SilentSwan | i just want out of the whole country |
| 00:47.26 | kc9foh | nice here too see deer out in the yard all the time |
| 00:47.33 | RPG_ | eating the flowers ;) |
| 00:47.41 | kc9foh | you can burn yard waste |
| 00:47.53 | RPG_ | and set off fireworks? |
| 00:48.01 | kc9foh | no emission inspections |
| 00:48.12 | kc9foh | noh yea all the time |
| 00:48.27 | kc9foh | ngas is about 2.30 gal |
| 00:48.56 | kc9foh | next to no crime and great schools |
| 00:48.57 | SilentSwan | well... i have to use premium... |
| 00:49.00 | SilentSwan | :( |
| 00:49.05 | RPG_ | turbocharger? |
| 00:49.08 | SilentSwan | yeah |
| 00:49.13 | SilentSwan | expensive car means expensive gase |
| 00:49.14 | SilentSwan | gas |
| 00:49.16 | kc9foh | 2.40 gal for prem |
| 00:49.21 | RPG_ | ooh |
| 00:49.23 | SilentSwan | still too high if you ask me |
| 00:49.37 | RPG_ | rip out the turbo and run on normal gas :) |
| 00:49.47 | kc9foh | nyes remember when it was just 1.98 and complaining |
| 00:50.05 | SilentSwan | haha |
| 00:50.11 | kc9foh | need to get back to .77 a gallon |
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| 00:50.23 | SilentSwan | yeah, considering all the reserves... |
| 00:50.30 | SilentSwan | oil companies are just artificially jacking up prices |
| 00:50.31 | kc9foh | nauo insurance cheaper too |
| 00:51.04 | bryjen | it goes up, people complain, it comes down half of what it went up, people stop complaining :( |
| 00:51.04 | SilentSwan | ugh, need my advils... |
| 00:51.17 | SilentSwan | bryjen yeah, that's how they get away with it |
| 00:51.19 | Roxport | I thought adding "&" after a command, in *nix, meant to kick off the process, and return to the prompt. |
| 00:51.31 | SilentSwan | Roxport yes |
| 00:51.34 | kc9foh | well it still isnt half so i guess we will still complain |
| 00:51.40 | Roxport | but when i try bzfs -conf mystuff.conf |
| 00:52.02 | Roxport | it doesn't return to the prompt. (no WM) |
| 00:52.34 | Roxport | even if i add & at the end, it doesn't return me to the command prompt |
| 00:52.57 | SilentSwan | hmm |
| 00:53.11 | SilentSwan | i don't have a bzfs at the moment to play with |
| 00:53.25 | bryjen | bzfs will output a some stuff that may obscure the prompt |
| 00:53.33 | SilentSwan | i've run it through scripts before and had no problem with it |
| 00:53.52 | SilentSwan | Roxport yeah, try hitting enter a few times, see if a prompt comes up |
| 00:53.57 | Roxport | ok |
| 00:55.07 | Roxport | yes, thanks |
| 00:55.31 | SilentSwan | you'll need to do bzfs -conf mystuff.conf 2>&1 >/dev/null if you don't want all that on your screen |
| 00:55.37 | SilentSwan | but i usually just wrote it out to a log file |
| 00:55.42 | SilentSwan | it comes in handy |
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| 00:55.51 | bryjen | hrm |
| 00:55.57 | bryjen | ~seen JeffM2501 |
| 00:55.59 | ibot | jeffm2501 <n=JeffM@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/JeffM2501> was last seen on IRC in channel #bzflag, 18m 52s ago, saying: 'I dono, 3 of you, 4 of us'. |
| 00:56.06 | Roxport | yeah, i will do that in the future, just getting intial stuff lined up. |
| 00:56.15 | SilentSwan | have fun |
| 00:57.11 | Roxport | ha! it's going slower than i want... |
| 00:57.27 | Roxport | this is first time i've had linux with a computer that's online. |
| 00:59.00 | Roxport | i actually want to have the server running even if no one is logged on. |
| 00:59.12 | kc9foh | brb |
| 00:59.13 | RPG_ | it'll do that |
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| 00:59.57 | Roxport | i need to add that command line in some file, like initrd or something? |
| 01:00.27 | Roxport | i'll look that stuff up later... no time right now. |
| 01:00.38 | Roxport | gotta run. bye all |
| 01:00.41 | orchid | ~8ball read or watch a movie |
| 01:00.49 | SilentSwan | read! |
| 01:00.53 | SilentSwan | movies dull the mind |
| 01:00.54 | RPG_ | watch a movie! |
| 01:01.01 | Roxport | play bz! |
| 01:01.03 | RPG_ | minds were made to dull |
| 01:01.04 | Roxport | bye |
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| 01:04.31 | bryjen | ibot: 8ball |
| 01:04.32 | ibot | ACTION rolls the eight ball and gets: Better not tell you now |
| 01:07.01 | orchid | hmrf |
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| 01:13.37 | SilentSwan | ugh... i need a 64-bit install cd... i ended up with 32 |
| 01:13.40 | SilentSwan | start over |
| 01:13.52 | RPG_ | i'd shy clear of 64 bit |
| 01:14.10 | RPG_ | i've had a bad experience |
| 01:14.26 | SilentSwan | must be using windows |
| 01:14.34 | RPG_ | FC$_64 |
| 01:14.38 | RPG_ | FC4_64 |
| 01:14.43 | SilentSwan | windows is a bad experience :) |
| 01:15.07 | SilentSwan | of course, so is apple |
| 01:15.59 | SilentSwan | can't believe i've been using apple hardware for the last 3 years or so and still maintained some measure of sanity |
| 01:17.14 | SilentSwan | ah well, gotta pick up a prescription... bbl |
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| 02:04.14 | SilentSwan | ugh... went too long without meds again |
| 02:08.11 | cosmos | i just prefer to curse linux |
| 02:09.01 | SilentSwan | *tsk tsk* |
| 02:09.18 | SilentSwan | well, i'll be tossing together a couple BSD boxes soon, anyway |
| 02:10.27 | cosmos | still alot of cursing there |
| 02:10.42 | SilentSwan | must be one of those windows people, eh? |
| 02:10.56 | BearPerson | workstation? |
| 02:11.06 | BearPerson | terminal-to-server? |
| 02:11.08 | cosmos | i do not own any pcs |
| 02:11.15 | cosmos | i do have several sgi workstations |
| 02:11.20 | SilentSwan | oooh nice :) |
| 02:11.25 | SilentSwan | can i have one? |
| 02:11.25 | cosmos | several sun servers |
| 02:11.31 | cosmos | but NO PEECEES! |
| 02:11.54 | cosmos | i need to get the sgi origin 2000 going again |
| 02:11.55 | SilentSwan | cosmos i echo your feelings about pee-cees... but sometimes you have to break down and get one |
| 02:12.11 | SilentSwan | it's been years since i've had one here |
| 02:12.14 | cosmos | i do not have to breakdown |
| 02:12.35 | SilentSwan | lucky |
| 02:12.40 | SilentSwan | i refuse to deal with Apple anymore |
| 02:12.44 | cosmos | but i do have to go eat dinner! |
| 02:12.46 | cosmos | bbl |
| 02:12.51 | SilentSwan | biggest waste of money there is |
| 02:13.11 | RPG_ | and why? |
| 02:13.36 | SilentSwan | 1) switch to intel, 2) overpriced, 3) they change their pricing strategy routinely |
| 02:13.43 | SilentSwan | 4) hardware just isn't worth it anymore |
| 02:13.47 | SilentSwan | but 4 ties into 1 |
| 02:14.05 | SilentSwan | the only thing i still need it for is photo editing |
| 02:14.26 | SilentSwan | there are a host of little complaints i have about OSX, too |
| 02:14.28 | SilentSwan | but i won't go into that |
| 02:14.39 | SilentSwan | and their refusal to allow anyone to run it on anything but apple hardware |
| 02:14.48 | SilentSwan | and their incorporation of DRM |
| 02:14.53 | SilentSwan | shall i continue? |
| 02:14.54 | SilentSwan | :) |
| 02:15.08 | RPG_ | MS has a worse DRM |
| 02:15.15 | SilentSwan | true on that... *so far* |
| 02:15.33 | SilentSwan | i've a feeling that'll change soon |
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| 04:29.30 | SilentSwan | yikes.. i'm in shock at the speed of this new computer... amazing |
| 04:29.36 | SilentSwan | compiled Xorg in 20 min. |
| 04:29.51 | SilentSwan | took me an hour on a wintel box at work |
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| 04:35.53 | badgerking | okay, let me try this again... anyone, thoughts on Genosee Dark Lord or (DVN) as cops? |
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| 04:40.35 | Wingnut | when I join a game hosted by some of my friends, I can't shoot anything except myself. Any ideas as to what the problem is? |
| 04:40.44 | trepan | os/cpu? |
| 04:40.58 | Wingnut | Opteron 249, Linux |
| 04:40.58 | gram | of the server? |
| 04:41.04 | Wingnut | (client) |
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| 04:42.15 | gram | the server is an x86 running linux as well |
| 04:42.38 | Wingnut | in Ubuntu Breezy, running BZflag version 2.0.2.20050318 |
| 04:43.08 | blast007 | 2.0.4 is out |
| 04:44.09 | blast007 | building with gcc4? |
| 04:44.29 | gram | i'd assume so. |
| 04:44.31 | blast007 | (the client, that is) |
| 04:44.49 | blast007 | there were some issues with 2.0.2 w/ gcc4, though I can't recall if they caused that exact issue |
| 04:45.04 | blast007 | 2.0.4 fixed them, so you might try building the client |
| 04:45.14 | Wingnut | k |
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| 04:48.05 | badgerking | anyone around? |
| 04:48.17 | SilentSwan | no |
| 04:48.23 | SilentSwan | only us swans |
| 04:48.26 | badgerking | figures. |
| 04:48.46 | badgerking | anyone that wants to offer insight on a few players as potential cops? |
| 04:50.24 | badgerking | that's it, i'm gonna throw the holy hand grenade of antiochus at you all |
| 04:51.01 | SilentSwan | 3 shall be the number of the counting, and the number of the counting shall be 3 |
| 04:51.04 | badgerking | that's right. not one or two either |
| 04:51.09 | SilentSwan | count thou not 4, nor shalt thou count 2, excepting that one then proceedeth to 3. 5 is right out. |
| 04:51.31 | SilentSwan | sorry, i can't be of any help... 'tis rather sleepy here at the moment |
| 04:52.10 | badgerking | thats okay, you are a silent swan after all |
| 04:52.58 | badgerking | man, some poor tank is gonna come along and slip in that |
| 04:53.10 | SilentSwan | heh |
| 04:53.16 | SilentSwan | adds to the challenge |
| 04:53.34 | blast007 | _slideTime ;) |
| 04:53.39 | SilentSwan | :) |
| 04:53.40 | brlcad | ~fling green swan poop at badgerking |
| 04:53.48 | badgerking | oh we came up with a new variable! |
| 04:53.54 | brlcad | aww |
| 04:55.44 | SilentSwan | i'm still shocked at the speed of this computer... hehe... guess i got my money's worth... for once |
| 04:56.09 | gsnedders | what computer? |
| 04:56.15 | SilentSwan | a home-built |
| 04:56.19 | gsnedders | specs? |
| 04:56.34 | SilentSwan | amd64 4000+, 1GB RAM, SATA, geforce 6800GT |
| 04:56.40 | SilentSwan | asus a8n-sli board |
| 04:56.45 | gsnedders | oh |
| 04:56.46 | badgerking | well, aren't you special |
| 04:56.49 | SilentSwan | hehe |
| 04:57.01 | gsnedders | the question is, is this computer better than that |
| 04:57.03 | gsnedders | :P |
| 04:57.12 | SilentSwan | perhaps, perhaps not |
| 04:57.16 | badgerking | better than mine |
| 04:57.23 | gsnedders | Dual 2.5GHZ G5, 4.5GB RAM, 500GB RAID0, 6800 Ultra DDL |
| 04:57.26 | SilentSwan | this one will do for me for quite some time |
| 04:57.46 | badgerking | ah, another mac man |
| 04:57.59 | SilentSwan | i will NEVER buy another apple |
| 04:58.02 | menotume | 4.% GB RAM? what for ? |
| 04:58.07 | gsnedders | video editing |
| 04:58.23 | menotume | ahhh, right-o :) |
| 04:58.27 | SilentSwan | only thing is, i wonder if i can get CS2 running through wine... |
| 04:58.31 | SilentSwan | i need photoshop |
| 04:58.49 | badgerking | no one needs photoshop |
| 04:58.55 | SilentSwan | unfortunately, i do |
| 04:59.08 | badgerking | sorry |
| 04:59.10 | menotume | learning curve fo GIMP is high |
| 04:59.12 | SilentSwan | yeah |
| 04:59.20 | SilentSwan | gimp is useless for a photographer |
| 04:59.23 | badgerking | gimp sucks too though |
| 04:59.27 | menotume | if you're used to photoshop, corel, etc. |
| 04:59.32 | gsnedders | the thing is, the 2 CPU's will be faster for video exporting |
| 04:59.35 | menotume | i agree |
| 04:59.36 | badgerking | if i had to chose, i would pick photoshop |
| 04:59.44 | gsnedders | and dual dual core g5 would be even faster :) |
| 04:59.59 | badgerking | gimp's interface is archaic at best, inhumane at worsst |
| 05:00.04 | menotume | yes |
| 05:00.20 | SilentSwan | makes me laugh when people rave about it and how "wonderful" it is |
| 05:00.22 | menotume | 15 windows to do anything |
| 05:00.43 | menotume | i suppose if you got used to it ... |
| 05:00.47 | menotume | nahhhhh |
| 05:00.52 | badgerking | just give me paint :) |
| 05:00.58 | SilentSwan | still, it's not capable enough... maybe for making web gfx or something... |
| 05:00.59 | gsnedders | what good computer only games are coming out next year? |
| 05:01.12 | gsnedders | aka. not cosole |
| 05:01.32 | menotume | got me |
| 05:01.40 | badgerking | dont know, only play one computer game... guess what it is? |
| 05:01.49 | SilentSwan | pong? |
| 05:01.49 | menotume | hehe |
| 05:02.02 | badgerking | ding ding ding, silentswan wins |
| 05:02.06 | SilentSwan | woohoo! |
| 05:02.20 | menotume | PC is for bzflag, RPG |
| 05:02.26 | menotume | console for most other things |
| 05:02.35 | menotume | (for me) |
| 05:02.59 | badgerking | me too... i play first person shooters on console only |
| 05:03.29 | SilentSwan | wow, big storm here |
| 05:03.47 | badgerking | where's here? |
| 05:03.55 | SilentSwan | 20miles west of chicago |
| 05:03.59 | menotume | ya , Halo, Splintercell |
| 05:04.21 | badgerking | snow or rain |
| 05:04.24 | SilentSwan | brb - going to have a smoke and get struck by lightning |
| 05:04.25 | SilentSwan | rain |
| 05:04.29 | gsnedders | i'm just wondering if there's any point in me getting a proper gaming computer |
| 05:04.30 | SilentSwan | not nearly cold enough for snow here |
| 05:04.35 | SilentSwan | !weather 60515 |
| 05:04.38 | Guu | SilentSwan: The current temperature in Weather Underground is 56°F. |
| 05:04.43 | SilentSwan | brb |
| 05:04.46 | badgerking | !weather 64056 |
| 05:04.48 | Guu | badgerking: The current temperature in Weather Underground is 40°F. |
| 05:04.53 | gsnedders | because by 2007 should be intel PowerMacs, with virtualisation of windows :P |
| 05:04.57 | badgerking | man, colder here than chicago! |
| 05:05.39 | SilentSwan | ok... after that last lightning strike, i think i'll just stay inside |
| 05:05.39 | menotume | gsnedders: try ps/2, much cheaper |
| 05:05.39 | badgerking | i can't wait for intel OS X! I have 3 ibooks and my digital audio 733 is still creeping along but i'd like to upgrade |
| 05:05.49 | cosmos | lord jesus...again |
| 05:06.01 | SilentSwan | cosmos ? |
| 05:06.07 | badgerking | he bugs me |
| 05:06.13 | SilentSwan | oh... |
| 05:06.17 | menotume | lemme guess ... DOS ? |
| 05:06.34 | cosmos | cheating |
| 05:06.36 | cosmos | tking |
| 05:06.51 | menotume | ahhh, that's better :) |
| 05:06.58 | gsnedders | menotume: got one... just wondering if there's any computer only games coming out :) (+ my ps2 is breaking, getting an xbox 360, as it's the first next gen console) |
| 05:07.00 | badgerking | i have him ip banned on my server but he seems to get around them alot. i don't want to ban a subnet though |
| 05:07.14 | cosmos | he has over 250,000 ips |
| 05:07.22 | badgerking | how? |
| 05:07.37 | cosmos | hes just working his way through class c after class c |
| 05:07.52 | badgerking | i won't be getting a ps3. holding out for the 360 too |
| 05:08.19 | cosmos | if you ban 69.*.*.* you may get lord jesus |
| 05:08.36 | badgerking | i put "lord jesus" in my bad words file and that has helped keep him away too... he really likes that callsign and if he can't use it, he usually stays off |
| 05:08.47 | gsnedders | does he have any others? |
| 05:09.22 | badgerking | not that i know of |
| 05:09.24 | cosmos | some other ips were posted in the forums |
| 05:09.40 | badgerking | yeah, i have those in my banfile |
| 05:09.54 | badgerking | there is a group devoted to discussing him |
| 05:09.56 | cosmos | its time for registration only play |
| 05:10.11 | gsnedders | he's on gamesunited |
| 05:10.20 | gsnedders | if any of the admin/cops there are online |
| 05:10.24 | gsnedders | on here |
| 05:10.26 | gsnedders | i mean :P |
| 05:10.47 | badgerking | yeah, i am probably going to put a server notice telling people they will have to register in a month.. and then yanking spawn from the everyone group at that time |
| 05:11.33 | cosmos | @40000000436d445a0d884d54 Player Lord Jesus [20] has joined from 71.129.252.218 at 2005-11-05 15:46:24 with token "NONE" |
| 05:11.37 | cosmos | theres another range |
| 05:11.51 | badgerking | i wonder, if you left spawn but pulled rejoin, if that would let a person login but not respawn? |
| 05:11.54 | SilentSwan | yeesh.. intense lightning... |
| 05:12.21 | badgerking | not here, it rained hard a couple of hours ago and then stopped, got cold though afterwards |
| 05:12.38 | SilentSwan | miserable rain today ruined my plans anyway... |
| 05:12.44 | SilentSwan | so i'll just sit here and eat my mango ice cream |
| 05:13.24 | badgerking | i had brownies, icecream would have been nice |
| 05:14.48 | gsnedders | well, given my orders to the only trusted on viper's... if he comes, report. |
| 05:15.07 | gsnedders | it'll get sent out on the maillist, and well, i should get it quickly enough |
| 05:15.08 | menotume | gsnedders: who is the cheat on GU ? |
| 05:15.16 | gsnedders | Lord Jesus |
| 05:15.27 | menotume | ok, i guess he got bored |
| 05:15.31 | gsnedders | lol |
| 05:15.40 | SilentSwan | oh, i didn't know one could force only registered users... |
| 05:15.41 | cosmos | hes a winner |
| 05:15.47 | SilentSwan | seems servers should be doing that anyway |
| 05:16.20 | badgerking | yeah you can. problem is most players don't know how to register |
| 05:16.37 | badgerking | if the client had a menu that let a person register that would be cool |
| 05:16.37 | SilentSwan | yeah... perhaps giving better instructions on the bzflag website may help |
| 05:16.40 | cosmos | i got cussed out when i tried to help someone register today heh |
| 05:16.47 | SilentSwan | badgerking good idea |
| 05:17.05 | cosmos | they are working on that badger |
| 05:17.21 | badgerking | cool, any idea when it will happen? |
| 05:17.35 | menotume | if anyone wants to see a Mouse-Enhanced player in action, there is one on GU - hist score is 33-1 facing 2 players |
| 05:17.54 | SilentSwan | there's something else that needs to be done away with |
| 05:18.03 | cosmos | sounds like a cheating scoundrel to me |
| 05:18.05 | badgerking | what? |
| 05:18.13 | SilentSwan | mouse enhancements |
| 05:18.28 | badgerking | i don't use a mouse when i play |
| 05:18.34 | gsnedders | neither |
| 05:18.35 | menotume | personally, i use a mouse-pad enhancement - don't tell anyone |
| 05:18.38 | SilentSwan | in the same category as cheating in my opinion |
| 05:18.55 | badgerking | enlighten me, what is a mouse enhancement? |
| 05:19.09 | gsnedders | IMO it's an unfair advantage |
| 05:19.11 | menotume | ah, he left |
| 05:19.22 | trepan | menotume: GU using -a ? |
| 05:19.37 | menotume | use an external driver to accelerate your mouse to the max, and make your mousebox size very small |
| 05:19.44 | menotume | trepan: no |
| 05:20.04 | badgerking | heck i couldn't play with a mouse that fast |
| 05:20.08 | SilentSwan | wait, how does the mousebox size effect that? |
| 05:20.15 | trepan | travel distance |
| 05:20.16 | menotume | it's a slight advantage |
| 05:20.22 | menotume | SilentSwan: try it |
| 05:20.32 | SilentSwan | ok |
| 05:20.35 | menotume | make it the smallest, try to drive a straight line :) |
| 05:20.46 | SilentSwan | i usually used to keep it at the smallest size |
| 05:20.52 | SilentSwan | then i changed |
| 05:20.59 | SilentSwan | maybe that's why i started to suck really bad at bz :) |
| 05:21.05 | trepan | would that then mean that you came close to cheating? |
| 05:21.05 | menotume | try the NEW smllest size :) |
| 05:21.21 | SilentSwan | maybe :) |
| 05:21.25 | menotume | with big radar too |
| 05:21.36 | SilentSwan | i like a radar that takes up 50% of the screen |
| 05:21.45 | menotume | good eonough :) |
| 05:22.01 | badgerking | you are kidding about the radar right? |
| 05:22.03 | menotume | i hate the guy that made that hack :P |
| 05:22.04 | SilentSwan | if it were possible to separate the radar from text window, i'd have radar at 100% of the screen |
| 05:22.10 | SilentSwan | badgerking nope |
| 05:22.27 | SilentSwan | i look at radar 99% of the time |
| 05:23.16 | badgerking | well, going to go play for awhile now |
| 05:23.38 | menotume | me too, gonna play with a pillow |
| 05:23.43 | menotume | l8rs |
| 05:25.06 | cosmos | Lord Jesus can no longer use that nick on hepcat |
| 05:25.10 | cosmos | thanks to the filter |
| 05:29.12 | SilentSwan | god save the filter! |
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| 05:45.43 | uso | trepan: -a screws up jumping, better it is not set at gu |
| 05:48.09 | cosmos | i set it to 0 |
| 05:49.56 | trepan | uso: how so? |
| 05:50.37 | uso | cosmos: on hepcat it's ok |
| 05:50.57 | uso | trepan: try to jump from a box and immediatly back to it |
| 05:51.06 | trepan | cosmos: that's the same as not using it (except that it rids you of the warning) |
| 05:51.22 | cosmos | yes thats the idea :) |
| 05:52.26 | uso | yes and no, the inertia flag is set at the server list |
| 05:52.39 | uso | even if both values at zero |
| 05:52.49 | uso | *are |
| 05:53.32 | uso | trepan: in general you can't change direction between jumps anymore with inertia |
| 05:53.51 | uso | at least not with so low values as the server recommends |
| 05:54.24 | uso | breaks a lot of nice movement |
| 05:57.21 | uso | there should be a warning in the warning about this for jumping servers :) |
| 06:15.14 | uso | menotume: before saying the score of snick comes from ME you should look at it a bit ;) |
| 06:15.40 | uso | snick is playing probably 10 hours or more every day |
| 06:16.27 | uso | i would be glad if my single wall ricos would have half way the precision of this 3 or 4 wall ricos ;) |
| 06:17.22 | uso | and both of his opponents were below my level, i.e. classes below the level of snick, no wonder he had a score of 33-4 or so ... |
| 06:18.59 | uso | it's not his defense, it's his attack, the pressure he put's on you regardless where on the field you are on gu :) |
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| 07:19.28 | uso | and btw, you can't compare scores at gu with scores at ducati, it's easier to get a ratio of 4-1 or more at gu than a ratio of 2-1 at ducati |
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| 09:20.03 | silverfox | 'd like to make a binary (from C) that would take a text file, and move the first line to the end of the file. (ie, in a 3 line file, line 1 would become line 3, line 2 would become line 1, and line 3 would become line 2) Any suggestions on how to get started? |
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| 09:23.49 | trepan | silverfox: that's it? always move the first line to the end, and nothing else? |
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| 09:35.19 | Pimpi | Silver[a]: does it need to be C ? |
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| 09:57.02 | ToughShooter | unotmeu: ping |
| 09:59.03 | Birdie | sleeping |
| 09:59.10 | ToughShooter | Eww |
| 09:59.22 | ToughShooter | Being lazy is so much work :( |
| 09:59.37 | Birdie | well its like5am for him:) |
| 10:00.42 | ToughShooter | The problem is that the admin list is now done automagically but it fails from time to time and I can't figure out why. :( |
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| 10:10.31 | Kaos | Hey whats up |
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| 10:28.54 | Ogo | hey |
| 10:29.05 | Ogo | has anyone seen tim |
| 10:30.01 | Pimpi | try again in 6-7 hours |
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| 13:00.02 | Roxport | hey, does anyone know Killer1? |
| 13:00.17 | Roxport | KILLER_1, I mean.... |
| 13:00.48 | Roxport | he's asking for admin privileges on my server. "I want a job." he says... |
| 13:01.44 | Roxport | hello? |
| 13:03.51 | Roxport | hell yeah, that's my thought. i don't even know the guy |
| 13:03.55 | Roxport | or gal, whatever |
| 13:06.51 | Roxport | can i remove the "public" option from my server while the thing's still running? (2.0.4 on deb) |
| 13:12.33 | Roxport | what's masterban? |
| 13:15.47 | jpa- | KILLER_1 also has the nicks THE ROCK, star wars, ELem3nt and some others.. i'm not sure if i remember hearing something bad about him |
| 13:16.33 | jpa- | hmm hmm, using nick "Lou Man" though he is not louman.. |
| 13:17.09 | Tupone | masterban is a list, mostly shared by all bzfs-server, that hold just a few ip that are banned. It is managed by bzflag-developer, when bad people disturb a lot of server |
| 13:17.44 | jpa- | and with nick "ELem3nt" some tries to guess the admin password for my server |
| 13:19.34 | jpa- | yeah, i wouldn't make him admin. |
| 13:19.48 | meacan | bzbb admins: spam: http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?p=58111#58111 |
| 13:20.34 | _Manu_ | Roxport, yes, he always is asking for it |
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| 13:27.18 | Birdie | that killer guy is very annoying |
| 13:27.18 | Roxport | well i didn't fall for it |
| 13:27.35 | Birdie | only add people that you know |
| 13:27.55 | Birdie | and "i want a job" isnt a good reason to be admin anyway:) |
| 13:27.57 | Roxport | of course. he even told me the server command to try and unban him. ha ha ha |
| 13:28.03 | Roxport | freaky |
| 13:28.18 | Roxport | he gave three possible server unban commands for me to try. |
| 13:28.42 | Roxport | what's up with the jump buffering in 2.0 releases of bflag? |
| 13:28.50 | Roxport | is that something on the client side? |
| 13:58.38 | Roxport | when jump with TAB, no buffering of TABs while in the air. |
| 13:59.10 | Roxport | but when jump with right mouse btn, buffers rt mouse btn clicks while in air, so that jump again, even if not want to. |
| 13:59.40 | Roxport | are they going to fix this in subsequent releases, or is it a client thing? |
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| 14:28.44 | wizart | Hi, I finally managed to compile bzflag 2.0.4 (not everyone has a working full blown build environment) |
| 14:28.48 | wizart | And I've to say: |
| 14:29.05 | wizart | It's a great release with many pretty effects. |
| 14:29.12 | wizart | Congratulations |
| 14:38.34 | Tupone | I disabled all fancy effects, and probably I will going to disable explosion too. They cover the field too much, so you don't see targets. You could choose which effect are dangerous to visual |
| 14:57.46 | wizart | yea. I switched it off already. But it's still pretty. |
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| 15:12.52 | SkyW | good morning. |
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| 16:08.20 | Roxport | hey how to swtich off explosion in server? |
| 16:08.23 | Roxport | pls thnks |
| 16:08.31 | ruskie | erm on server? |
| 16:08.37 | Birdie | hey sportchick |
| 16:09.01 | Roxport | yse |
| 16:09.02 | Roxport | yes |
| 16:10.43 | Roxport | also, pls help. how to set server so that when drop flag over pyramid, it goes to center of screen, like it used to in 1.10.x |
| 16:10.52 | Roxport | ith config -c -b -t |
| 16:11.16 | Tupone | Roxport: IIRC thhere is no way server side to remove explosion |
| 16:11.35 | Roxport | tupnoe: ok |
| 16:11.37 | Roxport | i see |
| 16:11.43 | Roxport | but possible in client, right? |
| 16:12.01 | Tupone | I think you can remove client side, but I have not yet. You could test with option |
| 16:12.34 | Roxport | anyways, back to passing the flag... |
| 16:12.43 | Roxport | when playing ctf |
| 16:12.52 | Tupone | for the flag to go to the center, nothing has changed from 1.10 to 2.0 . perhaps your center is occupied by something |
| 16:13.05 | Roxport | it's a random board/world -c -b -t |
| 16:13.08 | Tupone | changed except bug fixing |
| 16:13.31 | Tupone | you have to be sure center of board is free |
| 16:13.32 | Roxport | if not using .bzw or .map, how to check if something occupy that space? |
| 16:14.04 | Tupone | when you go alive, first time, before spawning, you are at center. Is occupied? |
| 16:14.29 | Roxport | hmm |
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| 16:14.33 | SportChick | hi birdie |
| 16:14.40 | SportChick | Birdie: fun match? |
| 16:14.53 | Roxport | ok, but even then in 1.10.6 flag would pass to center |
| 16:15.03 | Ice_Wewe | hello |
| 16:15.05 | Ice_Wewe | I need someone who is an admin at LouMan's Laser Mania |
| 16:15.07 | Birdie | sportchick: i'm a little ill:( |
| 16:15.11 | Ice_Wewe | we have a situation there |
| 16:15.19 | Birdie | louman? uses silvercatadmin groups i think |
| 16:15.24 | Birdie | let me check |
| 16:15.30 | Birdie | what for |
| 16:15.31 | Ice_Wewe | Birdie, yes he does |
| 16:15.38 | Ice_Wewe | we have a constant TKer/flag carrier there |
| 16:15.41 | SportChick | Birdie: too much drinking? |
| 16:15.44 | Ice_Wewe | he TKs till kicked |
| 16:15.49 | Ice_Wewe | then comes back and does it again |
| 16:15.55 | Roxport | Tupone: this is a reason why some will stick with 1.10.6 |
| 16:15.56 | Ice_Wewe | rezape |
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| 16:16.06 | Roxport | jump buffering and flag drop/passing |
| 16:16.25 | Roxport | I am running 2.0.4 server right now |
| 16:16.25 | Ice_Wewe | can someone who is an admin there please show up? |
| 16:16.26 | Ice_Wewe | thx |
| 16:17.01 | Tupone | Roxport: i saw that in gu.de. They have a 0 height piramid at the center thar was not properly detected in 1.10. Now it is, so as flag cannot be on a pyramids, they will go back to the base |
| 16:18.33 | Roxport | Tupone: thks |
| 16:18.39 | Roxport | i wonder how to fix it? |
| 16:20.41 | Tupone | with random world I don't know, with fixed world you have 2 ways : free the 0,0 or define a safe place within base definition |
| 16:23.05 | Roxport | ok |
| 16:23.25 | Roxport | maybe i can build 2.0.4 and insert the "bug" from 1.10.6 :/ |
| 16:23.26 | blast007 | as for disabling explosions: -set _tankExplosionSize 0 |
| 16:23.34 | Roxport | thanks blast! |
| 16:23.52 | blast007 | for the 'return flag to center of the map', there were issues where the flag would go inside a building with that |
| 16:23.54 | Tupone | Roxport: you cannot do that easily |
| 16:25.50 | Roxport | tupone: i know ;) it was kinda' a joke. har har |
| 16:26.21 | Roxport | Tupone: what about jump buffering issue? ever heard of that with 2.0.x ? |
| 16:27.40 | Tupone | I don't use mouse to jump so I don't know |
| 16:27.46 | Roxport | ok, map jump to space bar |
| 16:27.50 | Roxport | press space bar |
| 16:28.03 | Roxport | and while in air, if accidentally press space bar again, will jump again when land. |
| 16:28.08 | Roxport | that did nothappen in 1.10.6 |
| 16:28.25 | Roxport | but if use tab jump in 2.0.x there's no buffering as described |
| 16:28.55 | Roxport | solution is use tab for jump, but some will not go for that in my group |
| 16:29.32 | Tupone | ok, do you mind to file a bug report? |
| 16:29.51 | Roxport | yes, i can. i just didnt' know if it's already been filed/reported. |
| 16:30.00 | Roxport | i can do that at sourceforge, right? |
| 16:30.32 | Tupone | yep |
| 16:31.03 | Tupone | describe exactly what your issue is, and how to duplicate |
| 16:31.41 | Roxport | ok |
| 16:34.09 | Roxport | tupone: "i saw that in gu.de." what's gu.de? |
| 16:34.26 | Tupone | bzflag0.gamesunited.de |
| 16:34.30 | Roxport | ok |
| 16:35.36 | Roxport | what about getting rid of yellow while passing thru warps? (2.0.4 srvr) |
| 16:36.11 | blast007 | the yellow is normal, and has been there as long as I can remember (I started in 1.7e2) |
| 16:37.59 | blast007 | and to remove it, I would consider it a cheat |
| 16:38.28 | Roxport | ok, nevermind then. i don't want to do that |
| 16:38.32 | Roxport | not a big deal |
| 16:38.48 | Roxport | just trying to get this group i play with to use latest 2.0.4 |
| 16:38.53 | Roxport | they are set in their ways with 1.10.6 |
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| 16:40.07 | Roxport | they really like the server options -b -c -h -t |
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| 16:41.13 | Birdie | meacan ping |
| 16:41.46 | meacan | Birdie: pong |
| 16:41.50 | Roxport | how can i save this irc chat text to a file (using mirc) |
| 16:41.52 | Roxport | in windows |
| 16:42.02 | DeathBarrel | alt + f4 |
| 16:42.19 | A_Meteorite | you can always copy and paste ;) |
| 16:42.24 | A_Meteorite | lol |
| 16:43.12 | Ice_Wewe | hey can some admin at BZBB get an IP from the stats area? |
| 16:43.16 | Ice_Wewe | or is that impossible? |
| 16:43.29 | Roxport | i know, copy paste is strange in this instance |
| 16:43.32 | blast007 | stats area? |
| 16:43.39 | Ice_Wewe | yea |
| 16:43.42 | Ice_Wewe | my.bzflag.org/ |
| 16:43.46 | blast007 | it doesn't store IPs anymore |
| 16:43.48 | A_Meteorite | I doubt they will give out an IP unless he is a cheater. |
| 16:43.48 | blast007 | hasn't since 1.7 |
| 16:43.51 | Ice_Wewe | bah |
| 16:43.59 | Ice_Wewe | blast007 that's be very useful |
| 16:44.04 | blast007 | well, the IPs are not passed to a client |
| 16:44.18 | Ice_Wewe | no no no |
| 16:44.28 | Ice_Wewe | I mean |
| 16:44.33 | A_Meteorite | yeah, sometimes I find a cheater at a server and I would love an IP |
| 16:44.42 | A_Meteorite | could if be added to 2.1? |
| 16:44.52 | DeathBarrel | ALT + F4 makes everything easier with windows |
| 16:44.53 | Ice_Wewe | when a server reports when someone logs on, does it tell my.bzflag.org his IP? |
| 16:44.53 | blast007 | it was taken out for a reason |
| 16:45.04 | A_Meteorite | oh |
| 16:45.04 | blast007 | Ice_Wewe: it does not tell the stats site |
| 16:45.06 | Ice_Wewe | blast007: why? |
| 16:45.13 | DeathBarrel | Ice_Wewe, no i doubt it does |
| 16:45.13 | Ice_Wewe | blast007: why? was it taken out? |
| 16:45.28 | blast007 | because anyone could get your IP address |
| 16:45.39 | Ice_Wewe | blast007: no thats not what I mean |
| 16:45.54 | Ice_Wewe | blast007: I mean could you make it so admins/owners of servers could log on and look? |
| 16:45.56 | A_Meteorite | can there be a system where only BZBB admins can view it? |
| 16:46.10 | blast007 | the stats site does not interface with the list server in any way |
| 16:46.20 | blast007 | it is seperate, and runs a script that acts like a client |
| 16:46.21 | Ice_Wewe | blast007: I know |
| 16:46.25 | Ice_Wewe | blast007: ok |
| 16:46.37 | blast007 | if the client doesn't know the IP, neigher does the script :) |
| 16:46.47 | blast007 | neither* |
| 16:46.55 | DeathBarrel | its like stats isn't an admin :) |
| 16:47.32 | DeathBarrel | hehe some of you admins get more of a kick for banning and collecting ips than you do for playing the game |
| 16:47.41 | DeathBarrel | so be happy you have people like this to make your day |
| 16:47.54 | DeathBarrel | :D |
| 16:48.18 | blast007 | DeathBarrel: banning players isn't necessarily 'fun' when a play has a huge range of addresses, and you have to worry about banning legitimate players |
| 16:48.33 | DeathBarrel | oh yeah |
| 16:48.34 | blast007 | which is the case with a current cheater going around |
| 16:48.41 | DeathBarrel | i'm sure its not |
| 16:48.42 | DeathBarrel | ah |
| 16:48.46 | Roxport | how can i minimize the message window while playing? |
| 16:48.47 | A_Meteorite | Read: Lord Jesus |
| 16:48.48 | DeathBarrel | lord jesus? |
| 16:48.51 | blast007 | yup |
| 16:48.55 | Roxport | 2.0.4 |
| 16:48.56 | DeathBarrel | yeah i saw him the other day |
| 16:48.57 | A_Meteorite | and this Abid guy |
| 16:49.08 | blast007 | Roxport: the 'w' key hides the message window, and the 'q' key hides the radar |
| 16:49.08 | A_Meteorite | he annoys me to death |
| 16:49.23 | DeathBarrel | lord jesus = learner in disguise |
| 16:49.28 | A_Meteorite | hehe |
| 16:49.35 | DeathBarrel | thats why you have such a hard time banning him :d |
| 16:49.55 | brlcad | heh |
| 16:50.01 | A_Meteorite | I need to get going... |
| 16:50.07 | brlcad | learner hasn't played in ages :P |
| 16:50.09 | DeathBarrel | Roxport, W will minimize the chat box |
| 16:50.30 | DeathBarrel | its him! thats why you never see him anymore! |
| 16:50.35 | DeathBarrel | lol |
| 16:50.36 | Pimpinella | it's not hard banning Lord Jesus |
| 16:51.13 | Pimpinella | /ban *.*.*.* 0 keep off |
| 16:51.13 | blast007 | lol |
| 16:51.13 | DeathBarrel | lol pimpi |
| 16:51.43 | Pimpinella | best is , all other troublemakers are banned too... |
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| 16:52.28 | Roxport | deathbarrel: thanks |
| 16:52.34 | Roxport | what's pulsation rate and depth? |
| 16:53.33 | learner | har har |
| 16:53.43 | _Manu_ | learner is still learning |
| 16:53.54 | learner | /me sticks to code |
| 16:54.57 | learner | forever learning ;) |
| 16:55.29 | _Manu_ | learning never ends ;) |
| 16:57.23 | learner | especially since I'm constantly forgetting stuff |
| 16:57.50 | _Manu_ | you need eat nuts ;) |
| 16:58.26 | learner | i eat |
| 16:58.30 | _Manu_ | learner, probably because your age... |
| 16:58.32 | learner | i eat a lot :) |
| 16:58.38 | _Manu_ | heh |
| 16:59.45 | learner | speaking of which.. sammich time me thinks |
| 17:00.02 | _Manu_ | pig brain is also good.. ;) |
| 17:00.59 | Roxport | blast007: w key is auto-mapped for admin msg. how to get it to minimize msg window? i already deleted config.cfg and restarted the client. still mapped to server command (the w key). |
| 17:01.33 | Tupone | shift-F1 ? |
| 17:02.11 | Roxport | nope |
| 17:02.18 | Tupone | try again |
| 17:02.43 | _Manu_ | F1-F1 minimize/fullscreen |
| 17:02.46 | _Manu_ | F4.. |
| 17:02.53 | Roxport | that makes the text go away, yes, but i want to play with the radar only, and be able to see heads-up the rest of screen |
| 17:02.54 | Tupone | is not minimized, juts empty |
| 17:03.24 | Roxport | ah ok. i don't think there is a way to do what i want then. that's ok. |
| 17:03.31 | Roxport | what's pulsation rate and depth? |
| 17:03.50 | _Manu_ | Roxport, you can set the font size |
| 17:03.57 | Tupone | it is the w for doing that, but I dunno why you said mapping to admin, z is mapper to admin :/ |
| 17:04.13 | _Manu_ | Z is for admin message |
| 17:04.36 | Roxport | i know, but for some reason, in the conf.cfg, w and o(letter) are also mapped to admin msg |
| 17:04.57 | Roxport | maybe ineed to totally uninstall 1.10.6 |
| 17:06.01 | Tupone | Roxport: you know you have to change 2.0/config |
| 17:06.08 | Tupone | not the config |
| 17:07.32 | Roxport | yes |
| 17:07.37 | Roxport | config.cfg in the 2.0 folder |
| 17:10.31 | blast007 | I map mine to F2 for radar, and F3 for messages |
| 17:10.40 | blast007 | cuz I have 'q' as fire ;) |
| 17:15.12 | blast007 | if you delete the config for 2.0, it will reconvert the 1.10 config |
| 17:15.38 | Tupone | so better move-away the 1.10 |
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| 17:23.33 | ToughShooter | Pimpinella: *.*.*.* as IP-adress will only ban 255.*.*.*, IIRC ;) |
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| 17:33.32 | Roxport | what does the + mean next to a name in the list of players (in bzflag client screen?) |
| 17:33.36 | Roxport | @ means admin, right? |
| 17:33.55 | Tupone | and + means succesfully authenticated |
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| 17:34.14 | Roxport | registered with a website or just the game servers, or what? is that a 2.0 thing? |
| 17:34.24 | Tupone | 2.0 things |
| 17:34.34 | Tupone | registered to bzbb.bzflag.org |
| 17:34.48 | Roxport | oh yeah |
| 17:34.56 | Tupone | - means the name is registered but you are not authenticated |
| 17:35.16 | Roxport | how can i turn on /register option. when I log in to my own server and try to /register it says that's turned off |
| 17:35.49 | Tupone | /register is bad :/ |
| 17:36.12 | Tupone | people give password to you |
| 17:36.36 | Tupone | bzbb authentication means server will not receive any password |
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| 17:36.57 | Roxport | ok it did not know that |
| 17:37.31 | Tupone | authentication will be done betweem client and bzbb |
| 17:37.46 | Roxport | ok |
| 17:38.13 | Roxport | so i go to bzbb site, register. then when i sign into a server 2.0 it automatically recognizes me? how to authenticate during game play? |
| 17:38.29 | Roxport | oh |
| 17:38.40 | Tupone | you have a place in the client to put nick and password |
| 17:39.04 | Roxport | oh yeah |
| 17:39.11 | Tupone | password will not be sent to bzfs server, never |
| 17:39.51 | bz4995 | well, that's really really odd |
| 17:40.19 | Roxport | ok, i figured it out thanks |
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| 19:09.57 | cosmos | a very young 28! |
| 19:10.35 | Aribeth | how young? |
| 19:12.00 | cosmos | i need to list more memory on ebay today |
| 19:14.22 | Aribeth | i need to list more stuff on ebay too |
| 19:16.15 | cosmos | times are expensive |
| 19:16.18 | cosmos | http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZtuxsuxQQhtZ-1 |
| 19:18.01 | Aribeth | hummm..unknown host |
| 19:18.46 | JeffM2501 | mehh PC2100 |
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| 19:21.08 | cosmos | jeffm: you sell what you have. :) i actually have some newer stuff as well just havnt cataloged it |
| 19:21.46 | JeffM2501 | where do you get it all? |
| 19:23.50 | Roxport | does anyone know how to get flag dropping/passing to work correctly in random board ctf 2.0? |
| 19:24.27 | blast007 | define 'correctly' |
| 19:24.46 | cosmos | jeff: i buy and sell and trade workstations and hardware |
| 19:24.49 | cosmos | i dont use pc stuff |
| 19:24.54 | cosmos | so if i get that i put it up |
| 19:25.00 | Roxport | drop flag over pyramid and it goes to middle of screen. |
| 19:25.07 | JeffM2501 | can ya get me a deal on an SGI? |
| 19:25.14 | Roxport | if using ctf random with -c -b -t -j etc. |
| 19:25.15 | JeffM2501 | like an O2 or a little octaine? |
| 19:25.16 | cosmos | what particular sgi |
| 19:25.21 | JeffM2501 | cheapest |
| 19:25.25 | cosmos | ill poke around |
| 19:25.30 | JeffM2501 | I just want to run some of the old demos |
| 19:25.41 | cosmos | i dont have any of those now but im sure one will pop up |
| 19:26.04 | cosmos | and i have all the irix media you will need :) |
| 19:26.10 | JeffM2501 | cool |
| 19:26.19 | JeffM2501 | the ones on ebay don't seem to come with media |
| 19:26.36 | JeffM2501 | I've been watching them for weeks |
| 19:26.38 | cosmos | they never do |
| 19:26.45 | cosmos | media is worth more than the machine |
| 19:26.48 | JeffM2501 | but mostly I don't know what I need |
| 19:26.59 | JeffM2501 | IIRC the O2 had a vga port |
| 19:27.02 | ToughShooter | JeffM2501: Seems like bzedit is broken again on Mac OS X in case you're interested. http://pastebin.com/419651 |
| 19:27.10 | JeffM2501 | ToughShooter, I know it is |
| 19:27.27 | JeffM2501 | I haven |
| 19:27.34 | JeffM2501 | 't added the new files to the project |
| 19:27.55 | cosmos | brb |
| 19:28.28 | JeffM2501 | today I am gonna try to do "bezedit" day |
| 19:29.58 | JeffM2501 | ToughShooter, you arn't watching the iBZEdit project too? |
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| 19:31.49 | ToughShooter | JeffM2501: I don't watch "iBZEdit" |
| 19:31.51 | Tupone | Roxport: in the random ctf world, there is a predefined safe place for flag, near the base |
| 19:31.58 | JeffM2501 | why not? |
| 19:32.30 | Roxport | in 1.10.6 that safe place was the middle of the screen. |
| 19:32.32 | ToughShooter | I hate all "i"-apps and single platform support is not good in my opinion |
| 19:32.40 | ToughShooter | well, except itunes |
| 19:32.42 | JeffM2501 | heh, true on both things :) |
| 19:32.42 | Tupone | in 1.10.6 there was no safe place |
| 19:32.43 | Roxport | now flag will go to nearest base (corner of base) |
| 19:32.53 | JeffM2501 | itunes is not a bad app |
| 19:33.22 | Tupone | Roxport: you really need random world? |
| 19:33.24 | Roxport | Tupone: there is no pyramid with height of 0 in the middle of a random base in 2.0 (at least i think). if drop flag manually in middle, it drops to ground as usual. |
| 19:33.45 | Roxport | if there were pyramid there, it would float to "safe place" |
| 19:33.46 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10tools/bzedit/OSX/mapedit.xcode/ (jeffm.mode1 jeffm.pbxuser project.pbxproj): missing files for OSX |
| 19:33.57 | Tupone | I'm testing it, flag do not go on the base, just on safe place |
| 19:34.04 | Roxport | tupone: yes, for the types of sessions my group likes to play. |
| 19:34.08 | JeffM2501 | ToughShooter, that should fix it up when it updates down to anon |
| 19:34.11 | Roxport | tupone: yes, i mean safe place near the neareast base, right? |
| 19:34.29 | Roxport | bz.kueck.net:5155 |
| 19:34.31 | Tupone | why you don't generate a random world, save it, and change the safe place |
| 19:34.39 | JeffM2501 | back to figuring out the mysteries of the box |
| 19:34.41 | Roxport | didn't know it was possible to save random world |
| 19:34.44 | Tupone | it will be no more random, but is like you used to play |
| 19:34.58 | JeffM2501 | it saves a snapshot of the world |
| 19:35.07 | Roxport | weill the random building config/height be in effect (-h) option? |
| 19:35.08 | ToughShooter | itunes comes in handy but the rest is just not well designed |
| 19:35.29 | ToughShooter | JeffM2501: I have a working sample now |
| 19:35.33 | Tupone | Roxport: it will not, but why you need random height building from one session to another |
| 19:35.43 | Roxport | to change it up each game |
| 19:35.50 | JeffM2501 | iPhoto is somewhat of a joke, iChat isn't bad, I haven't used iDVD |
| 19:35.59 | JeffM2501 | garage band is kinda cool |
| 19:36.00 | ToughShooter | JeffM2501: I am getting slowly behind the mysteries of C :) |
| 19:36.19 | JeffM2501 | cool |
| 19:36.20 | Tupone | you need to make some snapshot of the world and use it as a rotating server |
| 19:36.34 | Roxport | safety (float): safety position for team flags, used when team A drops team B's flag on team C's base. |
| 19:36.47 | Roxport | quoted from: http://www.bzflag.org/wiki/NetworkProtocol |
| 19:37.03 | Roxport | i think that's a non-2.0 protocol page? |
| 19:37.35 | ToughShooter | IIRC this was very outdated some time ago |
| 19:37.41 | Tupone | Roxport: in case you have doubt ( I have some too ), save the world and analyze what is there |
| 19:37.46 | Roxport | ok |
| 19:38.04 | Roxport | saving the world? is that a server cmd? |
| 19:38.11 | Tupone | client |
| 19:39.29 | Roxport | ok i save it |
| 19:39.34 | Roxport | saved |
| 19:39.54 | Tupone | you don't need to update us on a single step you do |
| 19:40.02 | ToughShooter | heh, 2.1 still has _wallHeight :) |
| 19:40.02 | Roxport | sorry... ;( |
| 19:43.32 | Tupone | whats wrong with wallHeight? |
| 19:45.44 | ToughShooter | You can do /set _wallHeight n (neR) but it won't change. It has to be in the map file. No sense to me being a server variable changeable at runtime |
| 19:46.35 | ToughShooter | so it should just be part of the map spec and not accessable via /set IMHO |
| 19:46.58 | JeffM2501 | yeah we should not have the geometry variables in the db, but be atached to the geo itself, and make a way to update the geo in any way at realtime |
| 19:48.16 | Tupone | so, it should be a way to update it. Just not from db? |
| 19:48.30 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 19:48.42 | JeffM2501 | the db dosn't make sense for geometric values |
| 19:48.57 | JeffM2501 | better would be a way to have every geometric object just have it's own data |
| 19:49.05 | JeffM2501 | and a way for us to relaoad the map with out killing everyone |
| 19:49.10 | Tupone | there are a lot of geometric value there now |
| 19:49.10 | JeffM2501 | would make map rotations better too |
| 19:49.15 | JeffM2501 | yes there are |
| 19:50.05 | Birdie | chestal ping |
| 19:50.06 | Tupone | I hope nobody will make that change for now, or bots will be screwed up |
| 19:50.36 | Tupone | I mean changing real world geometry run-time |
| 19:50.53 | JeffM2501 | yeah bots would have to be smarter :) |
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| 19:55.34 | ToughShooter | the artificial intelligence for bz's robots would simply need to get found ;) |
| 19:58.12 | jpa- | yeah, even jpa beats them :P |
| 19:59.38 | Tupone | sure ? |
| 20:01.42 | jpa- | yeah |
| 20:02.06 | jpa- | i know, that may be a bit hard to accept |
| 20:02.54 | Tupone | I'm very curious to see jpa- handling about 4 bots against him |
| 20:03.18 | Tupone | without flag and jumping |
| 20:04.08 | Tupone | aiming and shoot logic is Chestal's |
| 20:05.56 | jpa- | i'd say i could stay positive |
| 20:06.04 | Tupone | ok :) |
| 20:07.00 | jpa- | well i've not played much against bots on no-flags no-jumping servers, so i'm not sure |
| 20:07.16 | jpa- | they'll probably do much better on those |
| 20:07.17 | Tupone | I'd believed you on your word |
| 20:07.32 | Tupone | s/'d// |
| 20:07.55 | blast007 | the bots can weave through bullets pretty good, and they are good at shooting under you as you fall ;) |
| 20:08.42 | ToughShooter | the buts with -solo are targeting good when you fall down but not the autopilot |
| 20:09.04 | blast007 | autopilot was better back in previous versions |
| 20:09.04 | Tupone | the only things is that their movement is guessable, so they approach you on that main route, and you can wait them |
| 20:09.09 | blast007 | the navigation is worse now |
| 20:09.15 | blast007 | rarely even jumps over buildings |
| 20:21.41 | _Manu_ | blast007, if you jump quick.. they always falls killing you |
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| 20:28.41 | Roxport | guys, thanks for the earlier advice about dropping the flags and the "safety" area of the map. |
| 20:29.08 | Roxport | it works. i saved my random world, comment out the safety parts and load the world, dropping flag over pyramid now goes to middle of board. |
| 20:30.03 | Tupone | good, for the random things, I suppose you have to forget it, or do a rotating server |
| 20:30.23 | Roxport | rotating, like where a new map is given in a rotation? |
| 20:30.53 | Tupone | like when you restart server, it will load a new map |
| 20:31.08 | Roxport | ah, ok. |
| 20:31.17 | Tupone | dunno the details, perhaps people have scripts that does it |
| 20:31.29 | _Manu_ | you write it into a script |
| 20:34.01 | _Manu_ | for example if you have three maps, add three lines to the script for running your bzfs with the desired config file.. (one config file for every map usually) |
| 20:53.34 | cosmos | ugg hate ebay listing |
| 20:54.19 | _Manu_ | /kick ebay listing spamming |
| 20:55.39 | cosmos | takes forever |
| 20:56.27 | _Manu_ | /ban ebay listing 0 spamming |
| 20:56.27 | cosmos | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:56.28 | cosmos | or is thta a sep perm |
| 20:57.34 | _Manu_ | don't remember :/ |
| 20:58.26 | cosmos | want to make sure my non talking non regs dont /report nasty things |
| 20:58.59 | _Manu_ | yes.. talk permisson relative |
| 20:59.17 | _Manu_ | if no talk right.. no report |
| 20:59.38 | cosmos | yes i just tested it |
| 20:59.42 | cosmos | good |
| 21:00.08 | cosmos | now to just get these players reg |
| 21:00.46 | cosmos | heh |
| 21:02.04 | ToughShooter | if the list server script would work like my scripts do on silvercat webspace noone would want to register :( |
| 21:02.36 | Birdie | orchid: not here by accident? |
| 21:03.27 | ToughShooter | somehow the sorting of list inside client doesn't work after second fetch |
| 21:03.27 | cosmos | ? |
| 21:03.39 | ToughShooter | it gets a new token and the list gets updated but not sorted |
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| 21:29.43 | TD-Linux | it's so depressing... watching VC8 come up with build warnings for its own standard include files |
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| 21:35.55 | TD-Linux | good news: 9 modules compiled successfully with VC8 so far |
| 21:36.04 | TD-Linux | bad news: 7 had fatal errors |
| 21:42.34 | TD-Linux | will someone help me if I post my build log? |
| 21:43.24 | Tupone | do it, someone will |
| 21:44.01 | TD-Linux | http://pastebin.ca/27802 |
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| 21:45.12 | TD-Linux | mostly, it can't find curl, which is odd because I put curl in |
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| 21:47.28 | TD-Linux | whoops, I see my problem |
| 21:48.18 | TD-Linux | still got 4 fails |
| 21:50.27 | TD-Linux | http://pastebin.ca/27805 |
| 21:51.23 | TD-Linux | the errors: |
| 21:51.35 | TD-Linux | ENOENT, ENOMEM, and ENOEXEC are not declared |
| 21:51.45 | TD-Linux | all in serverstartmenu.cxx |
| 21:52.17 | Tupone | could you try adding #include <errno.h> near the other #include <...> |
| 21:53.10 | Tupone | TD-Linux: what OS again? |
| 21:53.23 | Tupone | :( |
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| 21:53.58 | Tupone | hi _bubbles_ |
| 21:54.07 | TD-Linux | it's yucky win32 with vc8 |
| 21:54.15 | TD-Linux | works fine on linux, I think |
| 21:54.18 | _bubbles_ | hello |
| 21:54.57 | Tupone | why on the hell someone with TD-Linux as a nick, compile for windows |
| 21:55.22 | TD-Linux | because that computer is faster than this one, and all 250GB is on a NTFS partition :( |
| 21:56.53 | TD-Linux | this is latest cvs 2.1, fyi |
| 22:00.16 | TD-Linux | http://pastebin.ca/27807 |
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| 22:00.38 | TD-Linux | after including errno.h, I got a link errror |
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| 22:02.14 | Tupone | you miss compilation of platform.lib, you have to check that |
| 22:03.47 | TD-Linux | where do I get platform.lib? |
| 22:03.56 | Tupone | directory src/platform |
| 22:04.14 | Tupone | ask DTRemenak or blast007 |
| 22:04.33 | TD-Linux | I don't have it |
| 22:04.49 | Tupone | you don't have that directory ? |
| 22:05.06 | TD-Linux | no, I don't have platform.lib |
| 22:05.13 | TD-Linux | I have the director |
| 22:05.15 | TD-Linux | y |
| 22:05.41 | Tupone | ahh, I don't know the details of compiling on M$ with M$ proprietary tools |
| 22:05.56 | TD-Linux | I got my copy free :) |
| 22:06.04 | TD-Linux | got 2005 express beta... free |
| 22:06.14 | TD-Linux | hooked it up to windows sdk... free |
| 22:06.23 | TD-Linux | (with a lot of tricks) |
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| 22:06.34 | TD-Linux | now I have a $200 software package.. free |
| 22:06.48 | TD-Linux | not that 'make' isn't free :) |
| 22:06.49 | Tupone | they don't release nothing to public if they don't think to gain money |
| 22:07.12 | TD-Linux | but they did, which makes no sense to themn |
| 22:07.49 | TD-Linux | my compile was going so good, I knew something had to be fishy... if it's made by microsoft, it cant' go right the first time |
| 22:07.51 | Tupone | well, probably they hope you get involved on M$ development to help them increse their revenue |
| 22:08.23 | TD-Linux | when Vista comes out, I'm going to celebrate with my Knoppix Live DVD |
| 22:09.10 | Tupone | Vista is a DRM/TCPA OS, to be avoided at all |
| 22:10.23 | TD-Linux | at least the disk is holographic and looks pretty hung on the wall, that's the best I can say about microsoft OS's |
| 22:11.32 | Tupone | TD-Linux: your project file should driver the build of platform.lib. You should look at those |
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| 22:12.40 | TD-Linux | Tupone: oh, I see the problem, some other modules did not build without errors |
| 22:14.14 | TD-Linux | Tupone: nvm, that's not it, I don't htink |
| 22:14.47 | Tupone | should be that, platform module is not build IMHO |
| 22:16.21 | TD-Linux | oh :P |
| 22:16.51 | TD-Linux | no dinput.h... looks like I need to mess around with the dx sdk some more |
| 22:20.02 | Pimpinella | Tupone: why did you remove that cheat check? |
| 22:20.11 | Tupone | on the 2.1? |
| 22:20.23 | Pimpinella | yep |
| 22:20.31 | TD-Linux | Tupone: ty for doing that, we are having a cheat-off coming u |
| 22:20.34 | TD-Linux | *up |
| 22:21.21 | Pimpinella | might be obsolete, just didn't really get it yet |
| 22:21.22 | Tupone | now, all the shot parameter are not used, so no way to cheat. Could be I change backm but for now it is not possoble to cheat |
| 22:21.37 | Pimpinella | fine then |
| 22:22.48 | TD-Linux | awww... so no guided lasers? |
| 22:22.57 | Pimpinella | ,) |
| 22:23.11 | TD-Linux | blast007 acutally made a 2.0.x guided laser |
| 22:23.52 | Pimpinella | you just need to position huge amounds of matter at the right places... |
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| 22:24.34 | Pimpinella | pssssssssssssssssssssssssss |
| 22:24.37 | SilentSwan | argh |
| 22:24.44 | SilentSwan | ~seen RPG_ |
| 22:24.48 | ibot | rpg_ <n=G-bus@c-24-15-87-171.hsd1.il.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #bzflag, 20h 9m 40s ago, saying: 'MS has a worse DRM'. |
| 22:24.55 | SilentSwan | ~seen RPG |
| 22:24.56 | ibot | rpg <n=G-bus@c-24-15-87-171.hsd1.il.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #bzflag, 15d 18h 12m 56s ago, saying: ''night'. |
| 22:24.56 | TD-Linux | his wasn't really 'guided', it just automatically aimed up/down/right/left at the nearest enemy |
| 22:25.13 | Pimpinella | she's noisy tonight... |
| 22:25.24 | SilentSwan | ah well |
| 22:25.42 | Pimpinella | hi and bye SilentSwan |
| 22:26.25 | SilentSwan | the hay says "Hey!" |
| 22:36.33 | TD-Linux | waaaaa... installed the directx sdk, still no compile |
| 22:37.13 | TD-Linux | regerror.c seems to be the source of it all |
| 22:40.55 | TD-Linux | http://pastebin.ca/27811 |
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| 23:16.59 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03atupone * 10bzflag/src/bzfs/ (GameKeeper.cxx GameKeeper.h bzfs.cxx): Adding primitive to check shot |
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| 23:25.29 | SilentSwan | mmm... pizza *drool* |
| 23:25.49 | RPG_ | girodanos pizza? |
| 23:25.54 | SilentSwan | ew .. no |
| 23:25.56 | SilentSwan | connie's |
| 23:26.03 | RPG_ | mmm... connies |
| 23:26.07 | RPG_ | didn't they go out of business |
| 23:26.15 | SilentSwan | apparently not :) |
| 23:26.27 | SilentSwan | giordano's is nasty.. just a big puddle of grease |
| 23:26.44 | RPG_ | Costco pizza is greasier :) |
| 23:26.51 | SilentSwan | eeeeeeeeeew |
| 23:26.53 | RPG_ | Cafeteria pizza is the greasiest |
| 23:27.02 | SilentSwan | sbarros... hahaha |
| 23:27.05 | SilentSwan | drinkable pizza |
| 23:27.12 | wizatcomp | costco pizza rocks, agreed! |
| 23:27.27 | RPG_ | sbarros is huge |
| 23:27.37 | RPG_ | you get like 1/4 a pizza in one slice |
| 23:27.56 | wizatcomp | it tastes sooo good |
| 23:28.00 | wizatcomp | and a napkin works wonders |
| 23:28.03 | SilentSwan | *shudder* |
| 23:28.20 | RPG_ | a napkin? havn't you noticed the pants on your legs? |
| 23:28.22 | SilentSwan | my stomach can't take it |
| 23:28.26 | SilentSwan | RPG_: haha |
| 23:28.46 | wizatcomp | RPG_: i got really weird looks when i sat on my pizza trying to remove the grease =p |
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| 23:31.28 | wizatcomp | SilentSwan: pants |
| 23:31.34 | wizatcomp | <RPG_> a napkin? havn't you noticed the pants on your legs? |
| 23:31.40 | SilentSwan | yeah yeah :) |
| 23:31.40 | wizatcomp | yah it was a bad joke |
| 23:31.50 | SilentSwan | i'm just a little slow tonight i guess |
| 23:31.55 | SilentSwan | most nights |
| 23:32.04 | wizatcomp | mmm |
| 23:32.08 | wizatcomp | well, back to physics |
| 23:32.08 | TD-Linux | sbarros pizza is so hard, I broke a plastic knife in half trying to cut it |
| 23:32.19 | RPG_ | a knife? |
| 23:32.26 | RPG_ | c'mon are you people from Propersville? |
| 23:32.34 | SilentSwan | TD-Linux: you must have different sbarro's where you are... the stuff around here is like liquid |
| 23:32.41 | SilentSwan | RPG_: i use a fork/knife :) |
| 23:32.49 | TD-Linux | the stuff here is super-ultra-cardboardy |
| 23:32.49 | SilentSwan | but only with deep-dish / stuffed |
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| 23:33.04 | TD-Linux | the normal cheese pizza, I mean |
| 23:33.42 | TD-Linux | The stuff our school serves is so greasy that we were able to squeeze a tablespoon of grease out of it |
| 23:33.56 | SilentSwan | ugh |
| 23:34.13 | SilentSwan | no wonder americans are known for being so fat |
| 23:34.15 | RPG_ | our cafeteria is an oxymoron it itself |
| 23:34.33 | TD-Linux | and yet, they serve milk with no more fat than 1% |
| 23:34.46 | RPG_ | on the walls, there's posters of happy, healthy kids lifting weights and doing sports |
| 23:34.52 | RPG_ | and the food they serve.... it's terrible |
| 23:34.53 | SilentSwan | hah |
| 23:35.03 | SilentSwan | ever see the movie Super-size Me? |
| 23:35.06 | RPG_ | yeah |
| 23:35.11 | SilentSwan | it's true |
| 23:35.14 | TD-Linux | we have competitions with the cheese sticks |
| 23:35.23 | TD-Linux | 3'8" is the record so far |
| 23:35.28 | RPG_ | you cna't get a hamburger, all they have is cheeseburgers |
| 23:35.37 | TD-Linux | we have both :) |
| 23:35.43 | RPG_ | and the worsst part of that meal would be the cheese |
| 23:35.44 | SilentSwan | reminds me of an old SNL sketch |
| 23:35.48 | SilentSwan | brb |
| 23:41.52 | SilentSwan | *burrrrrp* oh my... i ate too much |
| 23:42.34 | SilentSwan | normally 2 slices of deep dish pizza does me in. this time i ate 4. |
| 23:48.03 | cosmos | from where |
| 23:48.23 | cosmos | i wish they had lou malnatis here |
| 23:49.08 | SilentSwan | Connies... |
| 23:49.18 | SilentSwan | never been a fan of lou malnati's |
| 23:49.18 | cosmos | oh yeah |
| 23:49.24 | cosmos | connies is good too |
| 23:49.44 | cosmos | try the cheese on a cracker with bbq chicken crap they server here in cali |
| 23:49.49 | cosmos | youll be beggin for lous |
| 23:50.04 | SilentSwan | ew hehe |
| 23:50.22 | SilentSwan | well, i guess if chicago is good for anything, it's pizza |
| 23:50.37 | cosmos | and big bellies |
| 23:50.56 | SilentSwan | no, i think that's 99% of america |
| 23:51.12 | cosmos | http://www.hepcat.org/mr_bill/ |
| 23:51.20 | cosmos | that guy eats 5 wendys triples for lunch |
| 23:51.29 | SilentSwan | ugh |
| 23:51.31 | SilentSwan | *shudder* |
| 23:51.40 | cosmos | he once posted on eating 63 mcdonalds cheeseburgers in a day |
| 23:51.56 | SilentSwan | horrible |
| 23:52.00 | SilentSwan | surprised he's still alive |
| 23:52.13 | cosmos | hes american. built to eat! |
| 23:52.22 | SilentSwan | probably drives a Hummer, too |
| 23:52.35 | SilentSwan | with a 'W' sticker on it |
| 23:53.10 | SilentSwan | you know, i've noticed those Hummers have *very bad* paint jobs... the paint just comes right off on my key when i walk next to them |
| 23:53.31 | cosmos | no |
| 23:53.34 | cosmos | heres the funny part |
| 23:53.38 | cosmos | he drives a kia sportage |
| 23:53.42 | SilentSwan | hahaha |
| 23:53.56 | SilentSwan | feel sorry for those springs |
| 23:54.08 | cosmos | his wife is about 280lbs. they are american texans |
| 23:54.31 | cosmos | gluttony isnt a sin in america |
| 23:54.42 | SilentSwan | apparently not |
| 23:54.57 | SilentSwan | but lots of harmless things are |
| 23:55.00 | SilentSwan | hmm |
| 23:55.04 | SilentSwan | bizarre |
| 23:55.38 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03atupone * 10bzflag/ (include/TimeKeeper.h src/common/TimeKeeper.cxx): Removing recursive definition. Help debugging while printing variables |
| 23:56.04 | SilentSwan | omg, winecfg is slow |
| 23:56.12 | cosmos | heh |
| 23:57.34 | SilentSwan | this should be amusing |