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| 00:05.23 | Tupone | ep? |
| 00:06.47 | ep | ack, still no fps report and still get a "X connection to :0.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown)" error after exiting glxgears and the gears seem slow. The used to fly on the previous install. |
| 00:07.29 | Tupone | now you need to rebuild, or see what GL library you link |
| 00:08.19 | ep | Ok, i think i'll wait till tommorow :) |
| 00:08.31 | Tupone | yeah, good think |
| 00:08.52 | Tupone | however ldd can help |
| 00:08.53 | ep | i may go with debian |
| 00:09.04 | ep | ldd? |
| 00:09.15 | JeffM2501 | tells you what libs are linked with what |
| 00:09.22 | ep | ah |
| 00:09.47 | JeffM2501 | and debian dosn't have a default nvidia package |
| 00:09.53 | JeffM2501 | so it's not going to solve anything for you |
| 00:10.21 | ep | yeah I know. I've configured nvidia on debian before |
| 00:10.32 | ep | configured/built |
| 00:10.32 | JeffM2501 | it's the same on ubantu |
| 00:10.48 | JeffM2501 | just do that on your current OS |
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| 00:13.09 | bryjen | ep: you're closing glxgears by clicking the X in the window title? |
| 00:14.22 | ep | yes |
| 00:14.26 | trepan | JeffM2501: debian testing has the nvidia drvs, dev, utils... |
| 00:14.42 | bryjen | that's where the "explicit kill" message is coming from |
| 00:14.47 | JeffM2501 | the closed source binary ones? |
| 00:14.53 | JeffM2501 | I thought they "tainted" |
| 00:15.12 | Punkus | how do I make global groups? |
| 00:15.17 | JeffM2501 | you ask me |
| 00:16.00 | JeffM2501 | Punkus, what group name do you want? |
| 00:16.06 | JeffM2501 | and who do you want as the admin of it? |
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| 00:16.15 | Punkus | Admin, Punkus, me |
| 00:16.29 | Punkus | what ya mean, "group name" ? |
| 00:16.35 | JeffM2501 | the group has to have a name |
| 00:16.36 | JeffM2501 | it's global |
| 00:16.37 | brlcad | PerfectBell =? PerfectCell |
| 00:16.41 | JeffM2501 | brlcad, yes |
| 00:16.49 | Punkus | i want about 2 extra groups |
| 00:16.51 | JeffM2501 | Punkus, the group is on the vfourms |
| 00:16.57 | JeffM2501 | Punkus, that's fine |
| 00:16.58 | Punkus | snradmin |
| 00:17.01 | JeffM2501 | what do you want them to be called |
| 00:17.02 | Punkus | jnradmin |
| 00:17.05 | JeffM2501 | what is your server name? |
| 00:17.15 | Punkus | http://punkspalace.servegame.org/ |
| 00:17.25 | JeffM2501 | so you want 2 admin groups? |
| 00:17.26 | ep | ok exiting using ctrl-c and i don't get the message. But I was thinking i used to get an fps report? |
| 00:17.38 | JeffM2501 | how about PUNKUS.ADMIN and PUNKUS.COPS |
| 00:17.42 | BenUrban | ep: wait 10 seconds or so next time |
| 00:17.45 | JeffM2501 | that is how most other servers do it |
| 00:17.54 | trepan | ~dinfo nvidia-kernel-2.4.27-2-k6 |
| 00:17.56 | Punkus | PUNKUS.JNR_ADMIN |
| 00:18.03 | Punkus | PUNKUS.SNR_ADMIN |
| 00:18.09 | JeffM2501 | allright |
| 00:18.41 | Punkus | and, then, when its created, i can tell it wat permmisions I want it to have? |
| 00:18.49 | JeffM2501 | Punkus, they are made |
| 00:18.49 | brlcad | dizzutch: no it wasn't free wifi, but it was reasonable enough for me at the time, just a couple bucks |
| 00:18.53 | Punkus | k, thx |
| 00:18.58 | JeffM2501 | you add them to your local groups file, with the permisoons |
| 00:19.06 | JeffM2501 | that way your bzfs knows what perms the users get |
| 00:19.08 | brlcad | and yeah, not much to do in yuma ;) |
| 00:19.11 | JeffM2501 | then you go into the forums |
| 00:19.18 | JeffM2501 | and use the USERGROUPS item |
| 00:19.21 | JeffM2501 | to add people to the groups |
| 00:19.25 | ep | no report even if i wait 10 seconds |
| 00:19.30 | Punkus | so now |
| 00:19.36 | BenUrban | ep: you're talking about glxgears, right? |
| 00:19.38 | BenUrban | one moment |
| 00:19.41 | ep | yes |
| 00:19.56 | BenUrban | hmm |
| 00:19.56 | Punkus | how would I put it in the groups file? |
| 00:20.03 | JeffM2501 | umm |
| 00:20.06 | JeffM2501 | with a text editor |
| 00:20.11 | BenUrban | it took mine a little more than 5 seconds to print status line |
| 00:20.20 | BenUrban | and you don't have to exit to see it |
| 00:20.23 | Punkus | PUNKUS.SNR_ADMIN: +perm1 +perm2... etc etc ? |
| 00:20.31 | BenUrban | you have to run it in a terminal of course |
| 00:20.34 | BenUrban | err |
| 00:20.35 | BenUrban | from a terminal |
| 00:20.41 | Punkus | or do I have to put global somewhere on it? |
| 00:20.42 | JeffM2501 | read the sample Punkus, it's in the /misc dir in the source |
| 00:20.43 | ep | thats what i was thinking -- what do you get for fps |
| 00:20.50 | Punkus | k |
| 00:20.52 | JeffM2501 | it dosn't need to know it's global |
| 00:20.54 | brlcad | JeffM2501: and on "relatively" good behavior.. |
| 00:20.54 | BenUrban | 9529 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1905.800 FPS |
| 00:20.56 | JeffM2501 | just the group name is fine |
| 00:21.01 | brlcad | must be growing up a little |
| 00:21.02 | JeffM2501 | brlcad, somewhat |
| 00:21.11 | JeffM2501 | slightly |
| 00:21.20 | JeffM2501 | he did do an inapropriate nick change |
| 00:21.27 | brlcad | i noticed |
| 00:21.28 | JeffM2501 | and there was a report of a cheater right after he left |
| 00:21.36 | brlcad | still for him, that's a huge improvement ;) |
| 00:21.36 | JeffM2501 | hard to say |
| 00:21.40 | ep | I remember getting a high number too |
| 00:21.44 | JeffM2501 | he has been civil before |
| 00:21.46 | Tupone | JeffM2501: right before he join |
| 00:21.48 | JeffM2501 | he has ups and downs |
| 00:21.51 | brlcad | for all of a few minutes |
| 00:21.52 | JeffM2501 | abb before,s orry |
| 00:22.03 | brlcad | then it's like a growing bubble about to pop |
| 00:22.05 | BenUrban | anything over about 500 can usually be assumed to be hardware accelerated |
| 00:22.43 | Punkus | so, PUNKUS.SNR_ADMIN: KICK BAN SETALL ? |
| 00:22.48 | JeffM2501 | sure |
| 00:22.53 | JeffM2501 | what ever perms you want them to have |
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| 00:23.10 | JeffM2501 | then who ever you add to that group , will get those perms |
| 00:23.12 | Punkus | how does it know to go to the global group? |
| 00:23.23 | Punkus | it just knows? :P |
| 00:23.30 | JeffM2501 | it dosn't need to know it's a global group |
| 00:23.32 | JeffM2501 | it's just a group |
| 00:23.38 | Punkus | k |
| 00:23.48 | JeffM2501 | when a user logs in, your bzfs will ask the list server if the user is any of the groups it knows about |
| 00:23.57 | Punkus | k |
| 00:24.00 | JeffM2501 | for users you add on bzbb, the list server will say "yes" |
| 00:24.01 | Punkus | also |
| 00:24.08 | JeffM2501 | then your bzfs will give them those permisions |
| 00:24.17 | Punkus | I wont need a userdb and passdb if im going to use the forum, right? |
| 00:24.21 | JeffM2501 | no |
| 00:24.30 | JeffM2501 | no need for antything other then the groups |
| 00:24.46 | JeffM2501 | that's how it knows it's a global user, there isn't a local user record for them :) |
| 00:24.47 | Punkus | ill do reportfile and banfile tho |
| 00:24.53 | Punkus | bbl |
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| 00:24.57 | JeffM2501 | have fun |
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| 00:44.26 | ep | lol I got glxgears to report fps using: glxgears -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark |
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| 00:48.14 | ep | i'm only getting 1040, seems like i used to get twice that. I could be recalling incorrectly. Plus I used to have color cut back. That may make a difference. |
| 00:53.06 | JeffM2501 | the 5200 should render about the same in 16 and 24 bit |
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| 00:53.42 | ep | 1040 seem about right JeffM2501 ? |
| 00:53.53 | JeffM2501 | glxgears is a horible test |
| 00:53.58 | JeffM2501 | what res? |
| 00:54.01 | ep | i understand |
| 00:54.44 | JeffM2501 | what size is the window? |
| 00:56.34 | ep | sorry afk 1280 x 1024 |
| 00:57.05 | JeffM2501 | then that dosn't sound horible |
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| 01:34.39 | trepan | can someone make a windows exe from CVS for me? |
| 01:35.09 | wizatmac | i *think* there is a free visual c++ compiler |
| 01:35.25 | wizatmac | let me see if there is or it's my imagination |
| 01:35.28 | trepan | wizatmac: thanks, that doesn't help me |
| 01:36.12 | wizatmac | i was going to suggest you use it |
| 01:36.34 | wizatmac | oh |
| 01:36.36 | wizatmac | why not? |
| 01:36.40 | wizatmac | and i can build it |
| 01:36.47 | wizatmac | as soon as i find said piece of software |
| 01:36.56 | trepan | gave my winxp copy away shortly after i bought my comp. |
| 01:37.19 | wizatmac | ah |
| 01:37.21 | trepan | (cleaned it off my HD immediately) |
| 01:37.28 | orchid | :-) |
| 01:37.34 | wizatmac | well, for refrence, the VSC++ express compiler is here |
| 01:37.36 | wizatmac | http://lab.msdn.microsoft.com/express/visualc/default.aspx |
| 01:37.40 | wizatmac | trepan: good call =) |
| 01:37.47 | wizatmac | i'll start downloading it |
| 01:37.55 | JeffM2501 | trepan, what project? |
| 01:37.58 | JeffM2501 | bz? |
| 01:38.18 | trepan | JeffM2501: ya, want a OBJ saving version for louman |
| 01:38.55 | JeffM2501 | k |
| 01:39.16 | JeffM2501 | I'll build a .5b2 full package |
| 01:39.32 | trepan | thx, shall i point him to bzbb? |
| 01:39.39 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 01:39.56 | JeffM2501 | I fixed mousewheel today, so I was planing on doing a build for that as well |
| 01:40.17 | trepan | serendipity, baby |
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| 01:47.40 | wizatmac | amazing |
| 01:47.52 | wizatmac | i get 350Kb a second from the MS website |
| 01:49.02 | orchid | you can get the Vista iso's pretty fast then :) |
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| 01:49.30 | wizatmac | orchid: you're assuming i would *want* to run vista =) |
| 01:49.53 | CBG | who would want to do that? :) |
| 01:50.25 | JeffM2501 | wizatmac, just so you know, bzflag hasn't been setup to compile under the free .net 2k5 compiler |
| 01:50.52 | wizatmac | JeffM2501: it's the "visual C++ express edition" |
| 01:50.56 | JeffM2501 | yes |
| 01:51.00 | JeffM2501 | 2005 |
| 01:51.00 | wizatmac | so i'm not sure if that is .net or not |
| 01:51.05 | JeffM2501 | it is |
| 01:51.08 | wizatmac | oh |
| 01:51.10 | wizatmac | wonderful then |
| 01:51.13 | JeffM2501 | there will be errors |
| 01:51.29 | JeffM2501 | it's in beta |
| 01:51.34 | wizatmac | alright |
| 01:51.43 | JeffM2501 | so the compiler hasn't calemd down yet so I haven't make the .net 2k5 changes yet |
| 01:52.02 | wizatmac | hmm |
| 01:52.16 | wizatmac | what compiler is the code designed for? |
| 01:52.18 | JeffM2501 | it'll build plugins fine |
| 01:52.21 | JeffM2501 | C++ |
| 01:52.29 | JeffM2501 | the code works on many compilers |
| 01:52.39 | JeffM2501 | but we have to do little tricks for each compilers caveats |
| 01:53.08 | JeffM2501 | VC8 ( the one you are geting ) make some functions depricated, so we'll have to change a some stuff |
| 01:53.11 | JeffM2501 | mostly with casting |
| 01:53.16 | wizatmac | meh |
| 01:53.19 | JeffM2501 | making it more C++ standards compliant |
| 01:53.30 | wizatmac | i'm not sure what my school has |
| 01:53.32 | JeffM2501 | MS has been pushing hard for it |
| 01:53.40 | JeffM2501 | we build normaly under .net 2003 |
| 01:53.53 | wizatmac | i *think* that's what my school has |
| 01:53.57 | wizatmac | i hope it's what they have |
| 01:54.03 | JeffM2501 | or gcc on the mac works just fine |
| 01:54.08 | JeffM2501 | as does it under linux |
| 01:54.15 | wizatmac | sadly my school is all windows |
| 01:54.26 | JeffM2501 | why do you want to build a windows version anyway? |
| 01:54.45 | wizatmac | our programing class is obsessed with bzflag |
| 01:54.55 | wizatmac | and our "project" is going to involve bzflag |
| 01:54.56 | JeffM2501 | ahh |
| 01:55.01 | wizatmac | at least that's our goal |
| 01:55.07 | JeffM2501 | well you probably have ether VC7 or 7.7 |
| 01:55.10 | JeffM2501 | 7.1 probably |
| 01:55.15 | JeffM2501 | since that is current |
| 01:55.19 | wizatmac | we're *considering* trying to make a single player version of bzflag |
| 01:55.34 | JeffM2501 | best of luck |
| 01:55.41 | wizatmac | thank youy |
| 01:55.43 | wizatmac | *you |
| 01:55.44 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/package/win32/nsis/BZFlag.nsi: 2.0.5b2 |
| 01:55.46 | JeffM2501 | bzflag is a lan game |
| 01:55.49 | JeffM2501 | at it's heart |
| 01:55.51 | wizatmac | yup |
| 01:56.09 | wizatmac | but still, all the rendering/level/AI is a huge start |
| 01:56.18 | JeffM2501 | what AI? |
| 01:56.21 | wizatmac | which makes it alot easier to build on then starting from scratch |
| 01:56.28 | JeffM2501 | not really |
| 01:56.30 | wizatmac | the rudimentart AI for the bots/auto pilot |
| 01:56.38 | wizatmac | *rudimentary |
| 01:56.45 | JeffM2501 | you could recreate the rendering and level stuff in ogre in a few weeks, and be much better off :) |
| 01:56.47 | wizatmac | that's not the right word |
| 01:57.07 | JeffM2501 | hence why I say "good luck" ;) |
| 01:57.11 | wizatmac | JeffM2501: the thing is that we know some C/C++, but not enough to start from scratch |
| 01:57.21 | wizatmac | so it's nice to take something and work with it |
| 01:57.24 | JeffM2501 | thats why you use existing frameworks |
| 01:57.26 | JeffM2501 | like ogre |
| 01:58.04 | wizatmac | well, next week we'll see how feasable modifing the code would be |
| 01:58.19 | JeffM2501 | have a big breakfast that day :) |
| 01:58.33 | JeffM2501 | and put on your waders |
| 01:59.56 | wizatmac | if nothing else, we'll get a good look at code that we're used to playing in the compiled form |
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| 02:00.15 | JeffM2501 | http://my.bzflag.org/builds/2.0.x/bzflag-2.0.5b2.exe for those that care/want |
| 02:00.44 | wizatmac | i guess it's time to make a mac version then |
| 02:00.49 | wizatmac | unless you happen to have one |
| 02:00.50 | CBG | Random question of the day.... Am I missed on bzbb? |
| 02:01.05 | JeffM2501 | you are gone? |
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| 02:01.12 | JeffM2501 | wizatmac, not till I get home |
| 02:01.12 | CBG | How could you not notice? |
| 02:01.22 | JeffM2501 | ummm |
| 02:01.23 | CBG | I was like, one of the most active posters... |
| 02:01.26 | wizatmac | JeffM2501: then i'll make one now |
| 02:01.36 | JeffM2501 | no, other munchkins took your place man |
| 02:01.48 | RPG_ | AlliedArmour :) |
| 02:01.50 | JeffM2501 | wizatmac, what vesion of OSX do you have? |
| 02:01.54 | wizatmac | JeffM2501: 10.4 |
| 02:01.57 | CBG | Well... it's good to feel loved.... :/ |
| 02:02.08 | CBG | hey RPG_ :) |
| 02:02.08 | wizatmac | erm, 10.4.2 |
| 02:02.12 | JeffM2501 | wizatmac, if you try to publish it,it will want X11 libs |
| 02:02.23 | wizatmac | JeffM2501: i was just going to run it myself |
| 02:02.24 | RPG_ | hi CBG |
| 02:02.27 | JeffM2501 | k |
| 02:02.47 | CBG | RPG_: http://www.deviantart.com/view/24038003/ :) |
| 02:03.30 | RPG_ | cool |
| 02:03.46 | CBG | eh, some bits are better than others. |
| 02:05.33 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10BZFlagG3D/data/model/shadow.png: who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men....... I do... in png format |
| 02:06.11 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10BZFlagG3D/client/src/menus.cpp: make down arrow loop around in menu item lists |
| 02:06.38 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10BZFlagG3D/client/ (inc/menuBackground.h src/menuBackground.cpp): shadows for the mini tanks |
| 02:08.59 | wizatmac | hmm |
| 02:09.20 | wizatmac | the xcode project in the source code is made using a later version than the latest xcode version |
| 02:09.52 | JeffM2501 | you current on all your updates |
| 02:09.57 | JeffM2501 | cus it works for me |
| 02:10.22 | RPG_ | CBG: A-delusion has more trouble with your singaporian web host |
| 02:10.43 | wizatmac | huh |
| 02:10.44 | wizatmac | alright |
| 02:11.25 | wizatmac | i need the "SDL.framework" framework |
| 02:11.58 | JeffM2501 | yeah you need sdl |
| 02:14.50 | wizatmac | what version should i install? |
| 02:15.10 | wizatmac | 1.2 or 1.0? |
| 02:15.12 | RPG_ | make suure you get the development version |
| 02:15.24 | RPG_ | I'd go with 1.2 |
| 02:15.27 | wizatmac | ok |
| 02:15.34 | wizatmac | SDL-devel-1.2.9.pkg.tar.gz (Project Builder + XCode) <-- that one? |
| 02:15.42 | RPG_ | you on mac |
| 02:15.43 | RPG_ | ? |
| 02:15.45 | wizatmac | yah |
| 02:15.52 | RPG_ | I assume that's the right one |
| 02:15.55 | wizatmac | alright |
| 02:17.14 | wizatmac | i still need the framework |
| 02:17.18 | wizatmac | as that's not the framework aparently |
| 02:18.14 | brlcad | wizatmac: what's the error? |
| 02:18.40 | brlcad | wizatmac: if you checked out from cvs, you have to run ./autogen.sh on the command line first |
| 02:18.54 | wizatmac | brlcad: there's no error; the readme states that I still need the library |
| 02:18.58 | wizatmac | i'm using xcode |
| 02:19.08 | JeffM2501 | xcode just calls the makefile |
| 02:19.15 | JeffM2501 | you still have to run the autogen |
| 02:19.18 | wizatmac | oh |
| 02:19.19 | wizatmac | ok |
| 02:21.03 | brlcad | wizatmac: it will presume the sdl framework is installed, and perhaps libcurl, I forget exactly |
| 02:21.50 | brlcad | there should be references to what's needed in the xcode project, listing it as red if it's not installed or built yet |
| 02:22.27 | wizatmac | ok |
| 02:22.33 | wizatmac | yup |
| 02:59.22 | wizatmac | bzflag takes forever to compile |
| 03:08.08 | wizatmac | and a failed build |
| 03:08.15 | wizatmac | 2 errors, 555 warnings |
| 03:08.21 | wizatmac | and it took 35 minutes or so |
| 03:08.33 | RPG_ | 35min? |
| 03:08.35 | RPG_ | what CPU you got? |
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| 03:09.13 | wizatmac | 1.6 G4 |
| 03:09.20 | wizatmac | er, 1.4 G4 |
| 03:10.06 | wizatmac | the error: |
| 03:10.07 | wizatmac | find: /Users/Bob/nix/bzflag/cvs/bzflag/build/BZFlag.app/Contents/Resources/.: No such file or directory |
| 03:10.27 | wizatmac | i got that error twice |
| 03:13.23 | wizatmac | brb |
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| 03:19.32 | wizatmac | back |
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| 03:29.38 | jomojo | pillbox has been moved to port 5001 until port 5154 can be fixed.. whenever that may be |
| 03:29.44 | jomojo | if anyone one cares |
| 03:37.38 | trepan | how's it broken? |
| 03:37.54 | JeffM2501 | yeah how do you "break" a port? |
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| 03:57.40 | JeffM2501 | so build with the command line' |
| 03:58.57 | wizatmac | i will in a few minutes if this keeps failing |
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| 04:46.17 | brlcad | wizatmac: you're getting the resources error because the build didn't succeed |
| 04:47.03 | brlcad | you'd have to read more of the detailed build log to determine why (probably a framework/library) |
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| 05:32.42 | jomojo | trepan and JeffM2501: i am not sure how i lack the diagnostic tools to check |
| 05:32.58 | jomojo | i have to wait for silverfox to see how. |
| 05:33.43 | jomojo | i can't start a map there.. every time i try it says error: and suggests another map is already running |
| 05:34.08 | jomojo | we first thought some sort of denial of service attack, but that doesn't seem likely now |
| 05:37.10 | trepan | maybe there is a locked bzfs running on 5154 |
| 05:37.25 | trepan | you have the fuser command available? or perhaps 'ps aux | grep bzfs' ? |
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| 05:38.51 | trepan | 'fuser -n tcp 5154' would find the process on the default port (linux style opts, dunno about others) |
| 05:39.03 | jomojo | well i am not exactly sure what i have available i will try that |
| 05:39.39 | jomojo | fuser command not found |
| 05:42.44 | jomojo | ps command not found either trepan |
| 05:44.19 | trepan | he's a harsh jailor ;') |
| 05:44.40 | jomojo | yup |
| 05:45.02 | Aribeth | no ps command ? |
| 05:45.03 | jomojo | and an absentee one that lately.. |
| 05:45.31 | jomojo | nope |
| 05:45.46 | Aribeth | thats not good |
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| 05:51.39 | jomojo | nope |
| 05:53.23 | jomojo | as soon as the fox it will be probably be given |
| 05:53.43 | jomojo | but the way the jail system is set up he has to grant permission to each command i care to run |
| 05:54.03 | jomojo | which is a pain, I have yet to need to run the ps command as of yet |
| 05:54.10 | jomojo | until now that is |
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| 07:32.50 | Aribeth | yummm |
| 07:33.15 | Silent_Swan | had a rather spicy pizza earlier that's keeping me awake |
| 07:33.31 | Silent_Swan | acid reflux isn't fun |
| 07:33.34 | Silent_Swan | *burp* |
| 07:33.48 | Aribeth | zantac works good |
| 07:33.55 | Silent_Swan | don't have any |
| 07:34.00 | Silent_Swan | i do have a prevacid prescription |
| 07:34.07 | Aribeth | ahh |
| 07:34.08 | Silent_Swan | just don't know where it is at the moment |
| 07:34.31 | Aribeth | bummer |
| 07:34.37 | Aribeth | any tums? |
| 07:34.42 | Silent_Swan | no |
| 07:34.50 | Silent_Swan | just drinking water helps a bit |
| 07:34.52 | Aribeth | milk? |
| 07:35.03 | Silent_Swan | ew |
| 07:35.13 | Aribeth | lol |
| 07:35.16 | Silent_Swan | milk just makes it worse for me |
| 07:35.22 | Aribeth | ohh |
| 07:35.24 | Silent_Swan | i'll live |
| 07:35.25 | *** part/#bzflag JeffM2501 (n=jeffm@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/JeffM2501) |
| 07:35.30 | Aribeth | it helps me sometimes |
| 07:36.18 | Silent_Swan | ah i can't wait til i get this new computer built... |
| 07:36.27 | Silent_Swan | this g4 is getting on my nerves |
| 07:36.28 | Aribeth | ohh? |
| 07:37.05 | Silent_Swan | still need motherboard, cpu, video. that's the only things left |
| 07:37.13 | Aribeth | ahh |
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| 07:37.25 | Aribeth | building a PC? |
| 07:37.40 | Silent_Swan | yeah |
| 07:38.01 | Aribeth | intel, or AMD |
| 07:38.03 | Silent_Swan | i'm done with apple products |
| 07:38.05 | Silent_Swan | AMD |
| 07:38.37 | Aribeth | i sold my powerbook, im Apple free again :) |
| 07:38.48 | Silent_Swan | anything worth something from intel is ridiculously overpriced |
| 07:38.48 | Silent_Swan | ah good |
| 07:38.48 | Aribeth | yep |
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| 10:25.23 | Birdie | http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?t=5533 |
| 10:25.24 | Birdie | eh? |
| 10:56.10 | meacan | spam: http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?p=55349 |
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| 13:03.27 | Birdie | http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?t=5535 |
| 13:09.46 | menotume | rofl !! |
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| 13:09.54 | sniperyyd | hi |
| 13:10.31 | sniperyyd | where i can get documentation for that username, password , groupdatabase files ? |
| 13:11.23 | meacan | sniperyyd: http://my.bzflag.org/cgi-bin/man/man2html?6+bzfs (man bzfs) |
| 13:11.55 | sniperyyd | thank you , meacan |
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| 13:13.14 | CBG | bb admins... http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?t=5535&highlight= |
| 13:17.06 | menotume | is gone already, thx |
| 13:17.42 | CBG | :) |
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| 13:21.27 | sniperyyd | hi ToughShooter |
| 13:21.29 | sniperyyd | remember me? |
| 13:29.34 | sniperyyd | CBG: join my server |
| 13:29.35 | sniperyyd | cristi.brite.ro |
| 13:29.53 | CBG | sniperyyd: I am a litle busy. |
| 13:30.02 | CBG | What map are you running? |
| 13:30.08 | sniperyyd | random.. :( |
| 13:30.17 | sniperyyd | can u make me a map? |
| 13:30.29 | sniperyyd | ive no time to create complex maps |
| 13:30.38 | CBG | You can host one I already made. |
| 13:30.47 | sniperyyd | ok |
| 13:30.48 | sniperyyd | kewl |
| 13:30.52 | sniperyyd | where's it? |
| 13:30.54 | CBG | I don't have much time for map-making since I started college. |
| 13:31.08 | sniperyyd | hehe |
| 13:31.22 | sniperyyd | i wanna host one u already made |
| 13:31.26 | sniperyyd | where is that one? |
| 13:31.35 | CBG | ok |
| 13:31.55 | CBG | See: http://www.garrettsites.net/bzmaps/index.php?page=playerinfo&id=13 |
| 13:32.09 | sniperyyd | k |
| 13:32.47 | sniperyyd | anthill? |
| 13:33.24 | CBG | If you like. |
| 13:33.30 | sniperyyd | k |
| 13:33.40 | CBG | or maybe a mini-map from http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?t=4426 |
| 13:34.30 | CBG | or my first ever map... http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?t=3615 |
| 13:34.36 | CBG | Your choice, sniperyyd |
| 13:34.54 | sniperyyd | k |
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| 13:40.45 | zibb | is there anything special bzflag needs to compile on linux? |
| 13:43.50 | sniperyyd | CBG: hey, test it, i have put 13-mr.bzw :) |
| 13:44.00 | CBG | :o |
| 13:44.12 | CBG | ok |
| 13:44.17 | sniperyyd | surprise?:P |
| 13:45.27 | sniperyyd | btw, CBG , i have problem becos serv is not in the list |
| 13:45.35 | CBG | it wont work for me |
| 13:45.39 | CBG | I cant connect. |
| 13:45.51 | CBG | cristi.brite.ro:5145 ? |
| 13:46.00 | CBG | ~bzfquery cristi.brite.ro:5145 |
| 13:46.15 | sniperyyd | 5154 |
| 13:46.24 | CBG | ah, typo. |
| 13:46.28 | CBG | ~bzfquery cristi.brite.ro:5154 |
| 13:46.38 | sniperyyd | :) |
| 13:47.05 | CBG | :) |
| 13:47.06 | sniperyyd | see? |
| 13:48.07 | zibb | can anyone help with compiling errors? |
| 13:50.53 | zibb | i.e. http://bzflag.pastebin.ca/25583 |
| 13:53.45 | trepan | zibb: what OS? |
| 13:54.33 | zibb | slackware linux |
| 13:55.09 | menotume | did you have any errors when doing ./configure ? |
| 13:57.17 | zibb | none that didnt stop it |
| 13:58.32 | sniperyyd | re cbg |
| 13:58.50 | zibb | just warnings about curses but says it will build without it |
| 13:58.55 | CBG | sniperyyd: :) |
| 13:58.59 | zibb | same for sdl / gl |
| 13:59.16 | sniperyyd | it's funny isn't it? |
| 13:59.58 | menotume | hmm, is beyond me, sry zibb |
| 14:00.20 | sniperyyd | btw, the server is seen in the list, CBG |
| 14:00.21 | sniperyyd | ? |
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| 14:00.45 | menotume | trepan: are you familiar with libtool basics ? |
| 14:00.45 | zibb | is there a 2.0.4 rpm? |
| 14:00.55 | CBG | sniperyyd: I don't know. |
| 14:00.55 | Tupone | menotume: hi |
| 14:00.58 | sniperyyd | cbg, because i always had problems with that... |
| 14:00.58 | CBG | ~bzlist |
| 14:01.02 | menotume | hey Tupola |
| 14:01.09 | CBG | show me your conf, sniperyyd |
| 14:01.25 | sniperyyd | ok |
| 14:01.27 | Tupone | menotume: you have some knowledge about Hunt feature? |
| 14:01.36 | menotume | yes |
| 14:02.07 | Tupone | well, If you can try : Hunt Select, Score Away, Shoot. Does it work to you ? |
| 14:02.29 | Tupone | Hunt Select I meant just U, without pressing fire |
| 14:02.41 | Tupone | Score away : S |
| 14:02.41 | menotume | lemme try |
| 14:02.53 | zibb | what gcc version did you linux people use to compile bzflag? |
| 14:03.09 | Tupone | gcc version 3.3, 3.4, 4.0 |
| 14:03.38 | zibb | so i guess my problem isn't my version of gcc (3.3.4) |
| 14:03.54 | Tupone | zibb: what is your problem, again ? |
| 14:04.06 | zibb | http://bzflag.pastebin.ca/25583 |
| 14:04.26 | menotume | Tupone: hmm, no, can't shoot unless i hit 'S' again |
| 14:04.49 | Tupone | menotume: :) I knew |
| 14:05.00 | Tupone | I have not seen the code, and just tested once |
| 14:05.01 | menotume | i will look soon, thx :) |
| 14:05.23 | menotume | soon=today :) |
| 14:05.48 | zibb | Tupone: any ideas? |
| 14:06.01 | Tupone | I don't use ccache |
| 14:06.12 | Tupone | I'd look at libstdc++ |
| 14:06.29 | zibb | Tupone: how do you mean? |
| 14:06.47 | Tupone | well, wait, I go to the source |
| 14:08.25 | CBG | ~bzflist |
| 14:09.05 | Tupone | zibb: have you tried without using ccache ? |
| 14:10.07 | zibb | Tupone: how do you not use it? (i copied the command it echo'd without ccache and it came up with the same error) |
| 14:13.28 | Tupone | zibb: I'm sorry, I'm not on my machine, so help will be longer then usua, if any :/ |
| 14:14.12 | zibb | Tupone: i can wait :) |
| 14:15.28 | menotume | wow, what is that bright spot in the sky ? |
| 14:15.32 | Chestal | zibb: hmm, strange. Check include/config.h for #define HAVE_ASINF 1 |
| 14:15.37 | menotume | could it be .... the sun ? |
| 14:16.44 | CBG | Where should someone advertise their server on the bb? |
| 14:18.30 | sniperyyd | hehe :) |
| 14:18.37 | zibb | Chestal: it had a commented out #undef |
| 14:21.40 | Chestal | hmm, g++ should supply the asinf etc. and configure should find them |
| 14:23.04 | Chestal | you can look at config.log for any insights, search for asinf for example |
| 14:23.50 | zibb | k sec |
| 14:25.52 | zibb | looks to be ssl libs |
| 14:28.34 | zibb | Chestal: looks to be working now since i installed ssl libs |
| 14:35.18 | orchid | ~todo |
| 14:35.19 | ibot | it has been said that todo is entrance theme |
| 14:38.06 | sniperyyd | read this: http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?p=55361#55361 |
| 14:38.18 | Birdie | good morning orchid |
| 14:38.30 | orchid | hi Birdie |
| 14:38.57 | zibb | bzflag sure takes some time to compile |
| 14:39.37 | sniperyyd | 20 mins taken on my Sempron 2800+ fedora core 4 |
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| 14:46.00 | zibb | compiled but when ran: Fatal signal: Segmentation Fault (SDL Parachute Deployed) |
| 14:46.05 | zibb | ideas anyone? |
| 14:48.48 | sniperyyd | try running it again |
| 14:48.58 | sniperyyd | until it works |
| 14:49.10 | sniperyyd | im not sure it'll work but just try it |
| 14:49.30 | zibb | just did about 20times |
| 14:49.31 | zibb | all failed |
| 14:51.20 | blast007 | run this: sdl-config --version |
| 14:51.35 | blast007 | my slackware 10.2 has version 1.2.9 |
| 14:52.06 | blast007 | can't guarentee that mine works though, as I haven't compiled bzflag yet |
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| 14:59.55 | sniperyyd | works? |
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| 15:00.52 | zibb | nope, trying without SDL |
| 15:01.08 | sniperyyd | k |
| 15:01.10 | zibb | i tried to use gdb to debug but couldn't get out of a blank screen :P |
| 15:01.45 | sniperyyd | lol |
| 15:02.16 | sniperyyd | going play fifa 2005 |
| 15:04.07 | Tupone | zibb to play with gdb, it help comfiguring with --enable-debug |
| 15:05.14 | zibb | Tupone: well normally it ran blank screen popped up, went away and segfault, with gdb it just stayed on the blank screen |
| 15:05.55 | Tupone | --enable-debug should remove the SDL parachute |
| 15:07.51 | Jo-W | mmm parachute |
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| 16:10.52 | BenUrban | zibb: if you rn it windowed, you don't have to worry about the blank screen |
| 16:10.59 | BenUrban | fyi |
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| 16:33.37 | callofhonor | hi? |
| 16:34.38 | callofhonor | !weather |
| 16:35.14 | callofhonor | !weather 26269 |
| 16:35.16 | TheLastSpartan | callofhonor: The current temperature in Weather Underground is 46°F. |
| 16:36.18 | callofhonor | !weather 03801 |
| 16:36.21 | TheLastSpartan | callofhonor: The current temperature in Weather Underground is 57°F. |
| 16:36.36 | callofhonor | ok.... |
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| 17:22.22 | Jo-W | ~spell seporator |
| 17:22.33 | Jo-W | ah thats it :P |
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| 18:23.31 | JeffM2501 | why do people keep wanting jpeg textures? |
| 18:23.38 | JeffM2501 | does bzflag not look bad enough allready? |
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| 18:24.10 | blast007 | heh, why can't they just convert them to PNG files? :) |
| 18:24.23 | blast007 | even MSPaint can do that in XP |
| 18:24.54 | JeffM2501 | "jpeg files are smaller" |
| 18:25.11 | Tupone | jpeg file are patented |
| 18:25.47 | JeffM2501 | and lossy |
| 18:25.47 | Tupone | I mean jpeg format |
| 18:25.58 | JeffM2501 | make them look more like ass |
| 18:26.25 | blast007 | at the highest quality, they aren't bad |
| 18:26.33 | blast007 | but still, I don't use them :) |
| 18:26.45 | JeffM2501 | at highest quality, it's the same size as a png for many images :) |
| 18:27.06 | blast007 | photos are typically a bit smaller |
| 18:27.40 | blast007 | but not enough to consider it an advantage |
| 18:27.46 | trepan | depends on the type of image, jpeg does remarkably well on some of them without causing artifacts |
| 18:27.51 | JeffM2501 | well you can also tweak the compression on pngs to get them the same |
| 18:28.00 | JeffM2501 | photoshop just don't compress them that well |
| 18:28.27 | trepan | jpeg's compression will smoke png's for some images |
| 18:28.56 | trepan | but i agree the png is suffcient to the task |
| 18:29.06 | trepan | s/the p/that p |
| 18:30.27 | trepan | (like any of those making the request have/will do anything useful with textures anyways =) |
| 18:30.44 | JeffM2501 | exactly |
| 18:31.12 | JeffM2501 | and with the image sizes we are dealing with, the time dif in download is what a couple seconds? |
| 18:31.14 | JeffM2501 | once? |
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| 18:40.51 | Tupone | http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=/netahtml/srchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1='4,698,672'.WKU.&OS=PN/4,698,672&RS=PN/4,698,672 - I should thank the EP of rejecting the software patent directive - |
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| 19:36.43 | eva-00 | hello |
| 19:36.48 | blast007 | hi |
| 19:37.23 | eva-00 | someone can help me ? (I dont speak english very good, I'm french) I've got a problem with bzflag... |
| 19:37.37 | eva-00 | When I play I can't kill... |
| 19:37.41 | eva-00 | and its not fun ^^ |
| 19:37.57 | ToughShooter | using debian? |
| 19:38.16 | eva-00 | yes |
| 19:38.25 | blast007 | version 2.0.2? |
| 19:38.33 | ToughShooter | you need to upgrade to bzflag 2.0.4 |
| 19:38.35 | eva-00 | yes, I think |
| 19:38.38 | eva-00 | a |
| 19:38.50 | blast007 | yeah, try downloading the source, and compiling it |
| 19:39.02 | blast007 | unless there is a package for debian now |
| 19:39.10 | Tupone | dinfo bzflag |
| 19:39.17 | Tupone | !dinfo bzflag |
| 19:39.18 | TheLastSpartan | Tupone: Tah mah de |
| 19:39.21 | Tupone | ~dinfo bzflag |
| 19:39.41 | _Manu_ | :) |
| 19:40.18 | Tupone | I'm sure there is a 2.0.4 there :/ |
| 19:41.55 | Tupone | eva-00: stable, testing or unstable ? |
| 19:42.32 | eva-00 | ... |
| 19:43.15 | Tupone | what kind of debian you have? The stable one should work, without updating |
| 19:44.02 | eva-00 | I dont know... :s ... |
| 19:44.09 | _Manu_ | heh |
| 19:44.18 | eva-00 | so I have to download bzflag 2.0.4 ??? |
| 19:45.02 | Tupone | eva-00: I think is complex to install it |
| 19:45.29 | eva-00 | ah... |
| 19:45.34 | Tupone | who installed your computer? |
| 19:45.41 | eva-00 | my father |
| 19:45.43 | eva-00 | :) |
| 19:45.47 | eva-00 | (I'm 13) |
| 19:45.58 | Tupone | I guessed :) |
| 19:46.16 | Tupone | well, perhaps your father can , then |
| 19:46.43 | Tupone | you need to push him to come here :) |
| 19:47.40 | Tupone | ~x en fr you need to push him to come here |
| 19:48.17 | JeffM2501 | !debian version bzflag |
| 19:48.20 | TheLastSpartan | JeffM2501: 8 matches found: bzflag (oldstable: 1.7e4); bzflag (stable: 2.0.2.20050318); bzflag (testing: 2.0.2.20050318-0.1); bzflag (unstable: 2.0.4.20051002-1, 2.0.2.20050318-0.1); bzflag-server (oldstable: 1.7e4); bzflag-server (stable: 2.0.2.20050318); bzflag-server (testing: 2.0.2.20050318-0.1); bzflag-server (unstable: 2.0.4.20051002-1, 2.0.2.20050318-0.1) |
| 19:48.34 | eva-00 | lol :) yes but he isnt here... its for that I ask you ;) |
| 19:48.41 | JeffM2501 | 2.0.4 looks to be in unstable |
| 19:49.01 | Tupone | JeffM2501: looking at debian package seem 2.0.4 is not for i386 :( |
| 19:49.02 | _Manu_ | debian Sid |
| 19:49.23 | Tupone | i386 is still 2.0.2 |
| 19:50.07 | JeffM2501 | then what the heck did riker upload? |
| 19:50.56 | Tupone | dunno, perhaps my interpretation of debian info is wrong ? |
| 19:51.37 | Tupone | http://packages.debian.org/unstable/games/bzflag |
| 19:51.55 | _Manu_ | http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=bzflag&searchon=names&subword=1&version=all&release=all |
| 19:52.04 | _Manu_ | 2.0.4 is in debian Sid |
| 19:52.24 | Tupone | _Manu_: look at my link |
| 19:52.42 | JeffM2501 | yeah that page is worded very oddly |
| 19:52.44 | _Manu_ | I see no i386 :( |
| 19:53.21 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 19:53.25 | JeffM2501 | but IA64? |
| 19:53.27 | JeffM2501 | who did that one? |
| 19:53.35 | _Manu_ | dunno |
| 19:53.54 | JeffM2501 | and alpha |
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| 19:54.04 | JeffM2501 | wonder if he just screwed up |
| 19:54.13 | _Manu_ | intel 64 :/ and no AMD64 |
| 19:54.22 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 19:54.32 | JeffM2501 | so what he has an itanium but not a PC? |
| 19:54.35 | _Manu_ | nor i386.. weird |
| 19:55.06 | Tupone | amd64, i386 are still 2.0.2 :/ what, bzflag run on arm ? |
| 19:55.19 | _Manu_ | don't knew? k |
| 19:55.29 | JeffM2501 | I think that maybe he got the package uploads wrongf |
| 19:56.17 | Tupone | JeffM2501: could you e-mail him? I did anytime ibot goes off :) |
| 19:56.38 | JeffM2501 | post to dev list maybe? |
| 19:56.52 | JeffM2501 | I can if you want |
| 19:56.58 | JeffM2501 | but I think he hates me now |
| 19:57.07 | Tupone | wow, more then me ? |
| 19:57.15 | Tupone | than :) |
| 19:57.19 | JeffM2501 | I don't think he hates you at all |
| 19:57.47 | Tupone | I just meant more then I hate you :) j/k |
| 19:57.52 | JeffM2501 | ahh |
| 19:58.13 | JeffM2501 | heh, he may be more, I don't think I've ever seen you get mad |
| 19:58.31 | JeffM2501 | disagree sure, but in the end it all gets worked out |
| 19:58.37 | Tupone | if you 're mad, get mad, don't hold you all inside ... |
| 19:58.50 | JeffM2501 | I rarely get mad |
| 19:59.11 | Tupone | well, I should see the real word of the song |
| 20:03.59 | JeffM2501 | message sent |
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| 20:24.50 | menotume | tupone get mad? what did i miss ? |
| 20:25.02 | Tupone | me, always :) |
| 20:25.12 | menotume | hehe |
| 20:26.49 | Tupone | menotume: how is your pretty fix? :) |
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| 21:36.55 | menotume | Tupone: looking at it now |
| 21:37.06 | Tupone | :) great |
| 21:37.20 | menotume | should I: |
| 21:37.29 | menotume | 1) disable 's' while selecting, or |
| 21:37.40 | menotume | 2) go out of select mode when 's' is pressed ? |
| 21:37.49 | Tupone | 1) |
| 21:37.54 | menotume | bummer |
| 21:38.07 | menotume | that was my first thought, but i have to change how 's' works :) |
| 21:38.08 | Tupone | well, what are you asking ? |
| 21:38.10 | menotume | not that hard |
| 21:38.22 | Tupone | the preferred behaviour ? |
| 21:38.22 | menotume | i agree, 1) |
| 21:38.29 | menotume | preferred behaviour |
| 21:38.34 | Tupone | ahh, not 1 |
| 21:38.44 | menotume | 3) ? |
| 21:38.48 | Tupone | 3) |
| 21:39.02 | Tupone | pausing selection ? |
| 21:39.10 | menotume | ok, exit prgram if 'S' is hit while selecting |
| 21:39.15 | menotume | got it |
| 21:39.20 | Tupone | lol |
| 21:39.55 | Tupone | 2) S should be like an escape |
| 21:40.10 | menotume | nahh, F12 |
| 21:40.13 | menotume | fixes everthing |
| 21:40.15 | Tupone | so if select is not completed, go as it never started |
| 21:40.27 | menotume | right, gotya |
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| 21:51.47 | Thumper_ | hi JeffM2501 |
| 21:52.34 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03menotume * 10bzflag/src/bzflag/ (ScoreboardRenderer.cxx ScoreboardRenderer.h): Fix pressing 'S' while hunt-selecting. |
| 21:53.17 | Jo-W | yeh i hate that bug |
| 21:53.19 | menotume | now i know how that old bug happened :) |
| 21:53.40 | menotume | Jo-W: you knew about it ? |
| 21:55.41 | Jo-W | yeh |
| 21:55.48 | Jo-W | it happends all the time |
| 21:56.03 | Jo-W | cant move, so annoying |
| 21:56.12 | menotume | can't move ? |
| 21:56.16 | Tupone | cant shoot |
| 21:56.20 | Jo-W | yeh cant shoot |
| 21:56.36 | Jo-W | until i press S again |
| 21:56.43 | menotume | :) |
| 21:59.47 | Tupone | so your choice was to disabling S. Great. Mind why you asked :) |
| 22:00.27 | menotume | neither was hard to do.just wanted a second opinion |
| 22:00.36 | Tupone | lol |
| 22:00.38 | menotume | so, i have have someone to blame if it was wrong :) |
| 22:00.56 | Tupone | well, but I said the opposite |
| 22:00.58 | menotume | i didn't disable s |
| 22:01.03 | menotume | i did what you said |
| 22:01.04 | Tupone | yes |
| 22:01.21 | Tupone | at least that is wat I see in the game |
| 22:01.32 | menotume | huh ? |
| 22:01.33 | menotume | not for me |
| 22:01.42 | Tupone | it is good either way |
| 22:01.52 | Tupone | I entered, without spawning |
| 22:01.52 | menotume | but, that's not the way i did it :) |
| 22:02.19 | Tupone | and press U, and then S. S is a nop |
| 22:02.23 | menotume | right, you can't disable scoreboard if you're not playing :) |
| 22:02.27 | Tupone | ahh |
| 22:02.36 | Tupone | you're right :) |
| 22:02.39 | menotume | just like it always displays when you die |
| 22:02.42 | menotume | hehe |
| 22:03.30 | Tupone | ok |
| 22:03.30 | Jo-W | btw i was right, you cant move or shoot |
| 22:03.32 | Jo-W | you can only turn |
| 22:03.38 | Jo-W | :) |
| 22:03.44 | Tupone | Jo-W: you use the keyboard? |
| 22:03.47 | menotume | ahh, keyboard player :) |
| 22:03.49 | Jo-W | ye |
| 22:03.50 | Jo-W | s |
| 22:03.55 | Jo-W | i hate mouse :P |
| 22:04.05 | Tupone | what about a joystick |
| 22:04.12 | menotume | yep. states are calculated in the scoreboard display routine |
| 22:04.28 | menotume | it got confused when not displaying - that's how the old 'bug' happened |
| 22:04.48 | menotume | makes sense |
| 22:04.57 | menotume | up and down arrows are for selecting |
| 22:05.05 | Jo-W | i know |
| 22:05.31 | menotume | Jo-W: if you notice any other hunt bugs, please let me know P:) |
| 22:05.31 | Thumper_ | JeffM2501: ping |
| 22:05.36 | Jo-W | lol |
| 22:05.52 | Jo-W | actually i have known this for a while |
| 22:06.09 | Jo-W | it never crossed my mind its a bug :P |
| 22:06.17 | menotume | like more than a couple of weeks ? |
| 22:06.25 | Jo-W | heh.. yea |
| 22:06.36 | menotume | ahh, was a bug in the old hunt lgic too then |
| 22:06.48 | menotume | also makes sense |
| 22:06.55 | Jo-W | not sure if it was on 1.x |
| 22:07.37 | menotume | well, i found out about it a few hours ago, and it is fixed now (i think) |
| 22:07.39 | Tupone | Hunt was a 1.10 things IIRC, so bug was probably there too |
| 22:08.00 | Jo-W | btw |
| 22:08.03 | Jo-W | sometimes on windows |
| 22:08.12 | Jo-W | (i have a higher contrast setting in bzflag) |
| 22:08.17 | Jo-W | when i exit bzflg |
| 22:08.28 | Jo-W | it doesnt change my contrast back :( |
| 22:08.40 | menotume | hmmm, only sometimes ? |
| 22:08.56 | Jo-W | yeh |
| 22:08.58 | Jo-W | not always |
| 22:09.15 | Jo-W | i dont see any pattern |
| 22:09.21 | menotume | got me - never seen that |
| 22:09.31 | menotume | i take it you mean brightness ? |
| 22:09.39 | Jo-W | yeh that one |
| 22:09.41 | Jo-W | lol |
| 22:09.42 | menotume | k |
| 22:09.48 | menotume | almost the same thing :) |
| 22:10.17 | Jo-W | http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1311205&group_id=3248&atid=103248 |
| 22:10.43 | Tupone | I think the brightness does not change back to the previous value if you exit the game with something like a crash |
| 22:11.12 | menotume | ahh |
| 22:11.31 | Jo-W | maybe it quits to fast |
| 22:11.35 | menotume | Jo-W: when it happens again, try going into bzflag again, and change the brightness and exit |
| 22:11.48 | Tupone | hehe, that does not work |
| 22:11.51 | Jo-W | why didnt i think of that |
| 22:11.54 | Jo-W | .. |
| 22:12.02 | Tupone | bzflag put back to the previous |
| 22:12.09 | menotume | ? |
| 22:12.23 | Tupone | bzflag save the value when it start |
| 22:12.31 | menotume | ohhhh |
| 22:12.32 | Tupone | and put back the value when it leave |
| 22:12.33 | menotume | right |
| 22:12.41 | Jo-W | yeh i figured that to |
| 22:12.57 | Jo-W | but i can set it under normal right |
| 22:13.14 | Tupone | without bzflag? |
| 22:13.17 | Jo-W | then let it crash again |
| 22:13.19 | Jo-W | :P |
| 22:13.22 | Tupone | yeah |
| 22:14.30 | menotume | ok, try this: c:\program files\bzflag2.0.4\bzflag --use-sdl-brightness-restore --set-brightness-normal --no-defaults --dont-ever-do-this-really |
| 22:15.28 | Jo-W | mm i will try to remember that |
| 22:15.32 | Jo-W | it isnt bright atm |
| 22:15.34 | menotume | lol |
| 22:15.38 | Tupone | sdl manage it, It restore it, and put hook in case of crash, the SDL parachute |
| 22:15.44 | blast007 | windows isn't build with SDL though, right? |
| 22:15.50 | Tupone | nope :( |
| 22:16.20 | menotume | be sure to specifiy: --dont-ever-do-this-really :) |
| 22:16.45 | Jo-W | whats that do :P |
| 22:16.59 | menotume | gives you an error, probably |
| 22:17.18 | Jo-W | coool :D |
| 22:17.34 | menotume | hehe |
| 22:17.49 | menotume | we need some kind of parachute launcher for windows |
| 22:18.38 | menotume | i've seen simlar problems with other windoze games |
| 22:18.45 | menotume | usually messing up the palette |
| 22:18.49 | Jo-W | whats a sdl parachute anyways |
| 22:19.14 | menotume | i think: a piec of code that restores graphics poptions if the program crashes |
| 22:19.29 | Jo-W | oh |
| 22:20.28 | Jo-W | couldnt it be partially solved if it was moved up higher in the end routine (or whatever its called in bzflag) |
| 22:20.36 | Jo-W | the reset of the brightness |
| 22:20.58 | menotume | i don't know enough about Windoze program monitoring |
| 22:21.34 | menotume | but, i would think that a process (parachue) could launch bzflag, and look for a crash |
| 22:21.50 | menotume | maybe |
| 22:22.02 | Jo-W | wouldnt forking work |
| 22:22.03 | menotume | JeffM2501: ? |
| 22:22.07 | menotume | heh |
| 22:22.10 | Jo-W | or whatever the windows equilivant is |
| 22:22.43 | menotume | it would under *nix |
| 22:22.53 | Tupone | menotume: I think the things you are talking about are already in the windows build. Just they don't work like expected |
| 22:23.06 | menotume | you get an signal when the forked process dies |
| 22:23.08 | menotume | ahhh |
| 22:23.12 | Jo-W | its called threading in windows right :) |
| 22:23.40 | menotume | i call it pseudo-multi-tasking |
| 22:24.05 | Jo-W | fine.... >_> |
| 22:24.11 | menotume | hehe |
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| 22:43.58 | Tupone | TimRiker: how is the situation of debian bzflag ? seems 2.0.4 only for architecture != i386,amd64 and few others |
| 23:15.06 | uso | build on i386 failed because of an unmet dependency from libcurl3 |
| 23:17.12 | uso | http://buildd.debian.org/build.php?arch=i386&pkg=bzflag&ver=2.0.4.20051002-1 |
| 23:22.08 | TimRiker | Tupone: once I upload an arch, it's just a matter of time before the others build. it's been slow, there must be a long queue. |
| 23:22.14 | TimRiker | ~dinfo bzflag |
| 23:22.56 | Tupone | http://packages.debian.org/unstable/games/bzflag |
| 23:23.26 | Tupone | well, maybe the most interesting are left last :/ |
| 23:26.31 | uso | as far as i understand it it does not build on i386 because it depends on an old libcurl3 version, which is not available in unstable anymore |
| 23:26.37 | TimRiker | looks like libcurl is broken so bzflag won't build. |
| 23:26.40 | TimRiker | http://buildd.debian.org/fetch.php?&pkg=bzflag&ver=2.0.4.20051002-1&arch=i386&stamp=1128991954&file=log&as=raw |
| 23:27.00 | uso | the build system already tries to build it since 4 days |
| 23:29.02 | uso | or change the dependency to >= |
| 23:29.14 | uso | as testing still has the older libcurl3 |
| 23:29.14 | Tupone | libcurl has even a security pending problem, that does not affect us, but maybe delay uploading curl |
| 23:29.25 | uso | libcurl3 7.14.0-5 testing |
| 23:29.29 | uso | libcurl3 7.15.0-1 unstable |
| 23:30.11 | Tupone | 7.15 should be the one that fix the security adv. But seems having an SSP |
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| 23:53.59 | ep | I'm having issues client version 2.0.2.20050806 which I just obtained with apt-get on a new kubuntu install. Is this version buggy? |
| 23:55.58 | TimRiker | ep: probably. |