| 00:00.44 | JeffM2501 | is that like the song that never ends? |
| 00:14.31 | brlcad | Grumbler: don't worry, you still are -- there are just other nutty people out there too |
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| 00:29.15 | TD-Linux | ~logs |
| 00:29.17 | ibot | logs is, like, http://ibot.rikers.org/%23bzflag/, or stats http://ibot.rikers.org/stats/bzflag.html.gz |
| 00:40.29 | SportChick | ~silverfox |
| 00:40.30 | ibot | methinks silverfox is a troll. |
| 00:40.37 | SportChick | awwww |
| 00:41.34 | SportChick | ~silverfox |
| 00:41.35 | ibot | well, silverfox is a troll. |
| 00:49.56 | SportChick | silverfox: ping |
| 00:57.27 | Aribeth | hi Sporty |
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| 01:13.28 | DTRemenak | Grumbler: that happens every once in a while. not often. |
| 01:21.25 | TD-Linux | http://img242.imageshack.us/my.php?image=masterbotani7jj.gif |
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| 01:40.43 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10BZFlagG3D/ (6 files in 4 dirs): start talking to that thar list server |
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| 02:38.36 | bryjen | the last line "<Grumbler> yes, i am not totally nuts...." |
| 02:39.08 | bryjen | was that coincidently just where the day cut-off, or did that statement crash ibot? ;) |
| 02:39.21 | Aribeth | heh |
| 02:40.26 | Aribeth | maybe ibot couldnt handle the comment |
| 02:40.41 | Aribeth | or couldnt beleive it |
| 02:41.22 | BenUrban | ~seen Grumbler |
| 02:41.24 | ibot | grumbler is currently on #bzflag. Has said a total of 1 messages. Is idling for 2h 46m 36s |
| 02:41.34 | BenUrban | yeah, it crashed ibot |
| 02:41.51 | Aribeth | poor ibot. overloaded |
| 02:42.20 | Aribeth | ibot prolly can only understand logic |
| 02:42.23 | Aribeth | :) |
| 02:42.43 | BenUrban | really? i didn't think he could |
| 02:42.50 | Aribeth | hehe |
| 02:42.51 | BenUrban | !seen Grumbler |
| 02:42.52 | TheLastSpartan | BenUrban: Grumbler was last seen here 2 hours, 48 minutes, and 3 seconds ago saying: <Grumbler> yes, i am not totally nuts....other people are seeing the missle that almost never dies |
| 02:43.06 | BenUrban | heh, TheLastSpartan didn't die from that statement |
| 02:43.59 | Aribeth | ~karma Aribeth |
| 02:44.00 | ibot | aribeth has karma of 25 |
| 02:44.11 | Aribeth | ibot are you alive |
| 02:44.12 | ibot | The dead cannot live |
| 02:44.16 | Aribeth | hehe |
| 02:46.10 | Aribeth | ibot is alive |
| 02:46.35 | Aribeth | heh |
| 02:48.30 | brlcad | trepan: is it intentional that some of the mesh primitives support the ratio directive and others don't? |
| 02:49.05 | brlcad | also why sphere's don't support startside/endside or is that an omission? |
| 02:49.53 | bryjen | ibot are you undead? |
| 02:50.15 | Grumbler | heh |
| 02:50.20 | Aribeth | ibot is dead |
| 02:50.41 | Aribeth | ibot are you alive |
| 02:50.43 | ibot | The dead cannot live |
| 02:50.54 | Aribeth | ibot are you dead |
| 02:50.59 | bryjen | ~ibot |
| 02:51.00 | ibot | methinks ibot is a blootbot written in perl run by TimRiker on his server. logs on http://ibot.rikers.org/<chan>/ , ibot, jbot, apt are all the same process. It uses sqlite, but mysql or other SQL storage is also supported. |
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| 03:46.48 | trepan | brlcad: in both cases, look at the shapes that are generated |
| 03:49.22 | brlcad | so sounds like it's intentional difference for a reason :) |
| 03:50.01 | trepan | never should have added those primitives, kiddies be damned |
| 03:51.04 | sgk284 | q! |
| 03:51.07 | sgk284 | ww |
| 03:59.37 | jpa- | sgk284!! |
| 04:00.39 | jpa- | brlcad: to answer your initial question, yes, it is intentional and logic |
| 04:02.24 | Aribeth | japa-!!! |
| 04:02.29 | jpa- | ariii |
| 04:05.32 | brlcad | in particular the ("0" "1" "2"){1..*} part |
| 04:06.03 | trepan | it's a sequence of states, the states are explained in bzw.5 |
| 04:06.05 | sgk284 | this is a noob question... can i just toss like regular bash script stuff under a target in a makefile? |
| 04:06.21 | sgk284 | or should i make the target execute an external script? |
| 04:07.20 | trepan | although i think that state '1' is defined incorrectly, it is equivalent to no clamps |
| 04:07.45 | brlcad | trepan: I would have thought you would have gathered that I'm only working from bzw.5 .. what I don't understand is what that's supposed to imply for syntax |
| 04:08.21 | brlcad | they are states.. but does that mean I can list 0 OR 1 OR 2 .. or does it mean i feed it 0 followed by a list or 012 followed by a list |
| 04:08.34 | jpa- | time-between-states, state0, state1 ... |
| 04:08.58 | trepan | again, not my syntax in that section... (and there's an example in the top section) |
| 04:09.10 | brlcad | jpa-: I'm looking for syntactic understanding only right now |
| 04:09.36 | bryjen | (1|2|3){1,} |
| 04:09.36 | brlcad | i see the example.. it presumably is one state and a list .. |
| 04:09.45 | jpa- | i don't even know what the word 'syntactic understanding' means |
| 04:10.10 | trepan | jpa-: your assistance is not presently required |
| 04:10.21 | jpa- | ok, i have to go anyway |
| 04:10.41 | trepan | red sequence 0.0 0.0 0 2 1 1 2 0 ... # period, offset, list of states |
| 04:10.41 | bryjen | brlcad: search in the man 5 bzw for red sequence |
| 04:10.49 | bryjen | yeah, that line |
| 04:10.56 | trepan | a space after the second 0.0 might hace helped make it clearer |
| 04:11.31 | brlcad | i've been reading that, but want to make sure the parser isn't just catching that example but the entire possible states, which is a bit more tricky |
| 04:11.47 | brlcad | i think I see how to handle it now |
| 04:11.54 | brlcad | the ()'s are the confusing |
| 04:12.21 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03trepan * 10bzflag/man/bzw.5.in: improvements to "sequence" explanation |
| 04:13.45 | brlcad | ooh, heh |
| 04:13.49 | brlcad | pseudo regex syntax |
| 04:13.58 | brlcad | i get it now |
| 04:14.37 | brlcad | int repeats of 0 or 1 or 2, at least one int required |
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| 04:26.08 | brlcad | woo hoo.. finally have the lexing and parsing in for the entire spec! |
| 04:26.25 | brlcad | now to build an in memory representation.. |
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| 06:59.31 | LePoulpe303 | hi all |
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| 07:43.59 | LePoulpe303 | Has a bug already be reported regarding identification problem when launching v2.0.4 from command line under linux ? |
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| 10:44.51 | newbie_dont | :E |
| 11:11.09 | Grumbler | goood morning bzflag |
| 11:11.19 | jomojo | i am looking for the large and small rings maps used for the adrenaline league. Does anybody have a copy or have an idea where i could find them? |
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| 12:15.10 | Grumbler | sportygal this early..... |
| 12:15.40 | thresh | it's 16:15 atm :] |
| 12:16.19 | Grumbler | well, yeah, but its 05:16 pst |
| 12:16.50 | Chestal | nono, 14:16 MEST |
| 12:17.37 | Grumbler | but its 08:16 est....normal morning time |
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| 13:46.12 | TDS | hey all!!! |
| 13:46.17 | TDS | ich bin back :P |
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| 13:47.04 | TheDarkSamurai | yo people! |
| 13:47.48 | TheDarkSamurai | is there no one there? |
| 13:48.16 | TheDarkSamurai | fine!! |
| 13:49.04 | bryjen | he must've had extra sugar on his sugar flakes at breakfast ;) |
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| 14:51.33 | defcon8 | is it possible to do bzflag windowed? |
| 14:51.38 | Thumper_ | yes |
| 14:51.42 | Thumper_ | bzflag -window |
| 14:52.01 | Thumper_ | or hit F1 after you start it |
| 14:52.16 | defcon8 | cheers mate |
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| 15:41.22 | sgk284 | hey jpa- :) |
| 15:41.31 | sgk284 | and everyone else |
| 15:42.27 | brlcad | howdy |
| 15:44.25 | jpa- | sgk284 :) |
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| 15:46.11 | sgk284 | hey brlcad |
| 15:48.14 | Aribeth | hello sgk284, jpa-, brlcad |
| 15:48.28 | jpa- | hello ariii |
| 15:48.42 | sgk284 | hey ari |
| 15:55.19 | sgk284 | bullets that collide... |
| 15:55.23 | sgk284 | that would be cool |
| 15:55.30 | sgk284 | make duels much more interesting:) |
| 15:58.29 | bryjen | rico off each other or just explode? |
| 15:58.43 | sgk284 | optinoal i guess |
| 15:58.46 | sgk284 | rico would be crazy |
| 15:58.56 | sgk284 | optional* |
| 15:59.57 | sgk284 | if bullets could rico off each other, it would definitly add another dimension to the fight |
| 16:00.04 | sgk284 | :) |
| 16:00.38 | Birdie | somethimes its unpredictable than |
| 16:00.52 | Birdie | while it should stay predictable |
| 16:00.59 | Birdie | in my eyes |
| 16:01.05 | Aribeth | if they exploded you would have a 50/50 chance of excaping death |
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| 16:02.53 | sgk284 | hey JeffM2501 |
| 16:04.04 | JeffM2501 | hi |
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| 18:50.27 | Tupone | gina gina gina gina gina |
| 18:50.36 | gina | ! |
| 18:50.55 | gina | Tupone |
| 18:51.00 | Tupone | :) |
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| 18:54.59 | Tupone | Silent_Swan: ciao |
| 18:55.24 | Silent_Swan | hiya Tupone |
| 18:55.28 | Silent_Swan | 'tis friday |
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| 20:44.09 | *** topic/#bzflag is http://BZFlag.org/ || http://my.BZFlag.org/bb/ || http://my.BZFlag.org/ || http://cia.navi.cx/stats/project/BZFlag || http://BZFlag.org/wiki/GettingHelp || http://BZFlag.org/wiki/Download || #bzchat if you just want to chat || paste errors to http://bzflag.pastebin.ca || BZFlag 2.0.4 Released! |
| 20:44.09 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o ibot] by ChanServ |
| 20:44.15 | gina | hi ibot |
| 20:44.19 | Tegan | ~hi |
| 20:44.22 | ibot | hello, tegan |
| 20:44.53 | gina | ~hi |
| 20:44.54 | ibot | hello, gina |
| 20:45.28 | gina | ur slow |
| 20:46.05 | brlcad | hello slow |
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| 21:14.16 | Tegan | brlcad, see what you did? |
| 21:14.39 | Tegan | of course it took a while, naturally |
| 21:14.47 | brlcad | Tegan: I was talking to you :) |
| 21:15.27 | brlcad | j/k |
| 21:15.33 | brlcad | hiya |
| 21:15.55 | SportChick | ~hi |
| 21:15.59 | ibot | hello, sportchick |
| 21:18.24 | bryjen | Tupone: I'm not getting an - when i don't use a password. i see where my bzfs gets TOKBAD, but nothing in the scoreboard |
| 21:18.41 | Tupone | I did |
| 21:18.57 | bryjen | hrm. just updated, bryjen.bzflag.org:5154 |
| 21:19.18 | Tegan | brlcad: oh, yeah that makes sense now that you mention it. |
| 21:19.53 | Tupone | no public server ? |
| 21:21.11 | brlcad | bryjen: spaces? |
| 21:22.32 | bryjen | i donno. it's working now. |
| 21:22.42 | brlcad | hamsters |
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| 21:22.58 | brlcad | hamsters smoking ether |
| 21:23.10 | bryjen | uhm, k |
| 21:23.51 | Tupone | Message I wrote to unregistered player is "politically correct" ? |
| 21:24.53 | bryjen | Message? |
| 21:25.05 | Tupone | use a nick not registered |
| 21:25.14 | Tupone | and see |
| 21:25.40 | Tegan | brlcad are they related to the Ether Bunny? |
| 21:26.15 | bryjen | I see "Global login rejected, bad token." |
| 21:26.31 | Tupone | that is if you use a registered nick |
| 21:26.43 | bryjen | ah |
| 21:27.52 | Tupone | my english is far from perfect, so better review it |
| 21:27.53 | bryjen | "Login approved. This callsign is unregistered." maybe you should not say "Login approved." they connected, but did not truely log in to anything |
| 21:28.29 | Tupone | hehe, could you fix it. I say then to use bzbb to register |
| 21:28.51 | brlcad | Tegan: jes! |
| 21:30.00 | bryjen | hmm, need to work on the "use /identify" message some more. i get that with registered user + bad token |
| 21:33.57 | Tupone | bryjen: that map is random? |
| 21:34.09 | bryjen | should be |
| 21:34.15 | Thumper_ | is anyone here in charge of the bzfs man page on http://my.bzflag.org/cgi-bin/man/man2html?6+bzfs%3Ehttp://my.bzflag.org/cgi-bin/man/man2html?6+bzfs |
| 21:34.41 | Thumper_ | There seems to be a formatting error after '/flag show' and before '/kick' |
| 21:34.49 | TD-Linux | argh! bzflag just crashed! |
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| 21:42.57 | TD-Linux | how do I change BZFlag's far clipping distance? |
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| 21:43.51 | RPG_ | i think there's a set var for that |
| 21:46.08 | bryjen | ah, old URL for the BB as well |
| 21:49.50 | Thumper_ | someone posted instructions for how to do multihunt on bzbb (I think) - does anyone have the link handy? I can't find it by browsing :/ |
| 21:50.01 | TD-Linux | I can tell you how right now |
| 21:50.07 | TD-Linux | U to hunt |
| 21:50.10 | Thumper_ | I know how - I want ot pass the info on |
| 21:50.13 | Thumper_ | to someone |
| 21:50.14 | TD-Linux | oh |
| 21:50.21 | RPG_ | 7 to add hunts |
| 21:50.26 | RPG_ | number 7 |
| 21:50.32 | bryjen | again, TOKBAD, but no - in scoreboard. perhaps Tupone has to be watching for it to work ;) |
| 21:50.55 | Tupone | can you follow with debugger ? |
| 21:52.14 | bryjen | i rejoined and it worked. I wonder if it the first connection after server start... |
| 21:52.45 | Tupone | r perhaps the server is not yet public ? |
| 21:53.04 | TD-Linux | Thumper: http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?t=5317 |
| 21:53.10 | TD-Linux | Thumper_: http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?t=5317 |
| 21:53.33 | Thumper_ | TD-Linux: thx |
| 21:54.09 | Thumper_ | TD-Linux: hmm that doesnt' seem to be it |
| 21:55.20 | TD-Linux | Thumper_: scroll down |
| 21:55.41 | TD-Linux | Thumper_: see menotume's post |
| 21:56.18 | Tupone | ~x en it owl |
| 21:56.36 | Thumper_ | TD-Linux: I only see 4 posts...and menotome isn't one of them |
| 21:57.37 | TD-Linux | oops... maybe i typed wrong |
| 21:57.40 | TD-Linux | what you do: |
| 21:57.45 | TD-Linux | click the search button |
| 21:57.53 | TD-Linux | type in multi-hunt |
| 21:58.05 | TD-Linux | find the 2.0.4-rc5 thread |
| 21:58.25 | Thumper_ | ah |
| 21:58.30 | Thumper_ | 5371 not 5317 |
| 21:58.32 | Thumper_ | thx |
| 21:59.09 | TD-Linux | I hand-typed it from one computer to another :P |
| 21:59.15 | Thumper_ | ick :) |
| 21:59.50 | bryjen | the - does not work until after I've used a good token once, then all is OK |
| 22:04.58 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03bryjen * 10bzflag/src/bzfs/ (ListServerConnection.cxx bzfs.cxx): login messages |
| 22:06.50 | Tupone | ok, I try to see why |
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| 23:07.25 | Tupone | bryjen: :( |
| 23:07.30 | bryjen | Tupone: ? |
| 23:07.38 | Tupone | I know what happen |
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| 23:07.55 | bryjen | knowing is good |
| 23:08.10 | Tupone | the - mean you are in the bzfs database and you are not verified |
| 23:08.26 | Tupone | you are put in the database when you join authenticated |
| 23:08.47 | bryjen | in-memory database? I am not using a -userdb file |
| 23:09.08 | Tupone | so it happens when you don't use a userdb, and before the very first successful join |
| 23:09.18 | Tupone | memory or not is the same |
| 23:09.51 | Tupone | database is kept in memory, load at startup if userdb is present |
| 23:10.32 | Tupone | to make this work differently is a mess, need to change code, but before I need to understand it better |
| 23:11.53 | Tupone | so basically the '-' mean: we saw you before, and we trusted you. Now you are possibly an imposter |
| 23:12.19 | Tupone | that from the bzfs view |
| 23:12.35 | bryjen | so on a server where c3p0 never goes, someone can be an imposter with no - |
| 23:12.50 | Tupone | yeah, but nobody know me there :) |
| 23:13.10 | bryjen | the will think they know you :/ |
| 23:13.50 | Tupone | hmm, if you see the code, the '-' is when user is registered and not verified |
| 23:14.03 | Tupone | registered === in database |
| 23:14.56 | Tupone | user will be put in database when joining authenticated or when /registering |
| 23:15.22 | bryjen | need to add users to database when bzfs gets TOKBAD, but not set isVerified |
| 23:16.47 | Tupone | I'm not sure about that. Database is for people registered, locally or globally |
| 23:16.59 | Tupone | so you can associate group |
| 23:17.03 | *** part/#bzflag thresh (n=popa3d@cryo.net.ru) |
| 23:17.59 | bryjen | TOKBAD is now only returned for valid BZBB user name, no? invalid ones get UNK? |
| 23:18.24 | Tupone | invalid should not have a token, and return UNK |
| 23:18.55 | bryjen | ah, yes. InvalidPlayer=NONE -> UNK |
| 23:19.37 | bryjen | InvalidPlayer=FakeToken still does BAD? |
| 23:20.06 | Tupone | in case they have a token, I wonder how they get it, however TOKBAD is returned |
| 23:22.56 | Tupone | the less dangerous things is adding a userdb item and resetting the verified things, there, I agree |
| 23:23.23 | bryjen | hmm, even if it adds invalid players to the database, they will never verify, they don't have any permissions defined, and with no -userdb file it won't get written out. will disappear one server exit. |
| 23:23.29 | Tupone | the problem is only if someone hack a client and send token with fake player |
| 23:23.46 | Tupone | ahh |
| 23:24.05 | bryjen | is someone does have userdb file, it could fill up with junk :/ |
| 23:24.10 | Tupone | yep |
| 23:24.49 | Tupone | unless we make the list server says that a player is just fake |
| 23:24.57 | Tupone | but it does not now |
| 23:26.29 | Tupone | I did not for back-compatibility. but if we can say just "upgrade" is easier :) |
| 23:26.48 | bryjen | that is always easier for the developer ;P |
| 23:26.57 | Tupone | :) |
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