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| 00:08.59 | menotume | hey dev guys .... :) |
| 00:09.05 | menotume | i suppose we branched ? |
| 00:09.40 | menotume | if there are fixed for bzfquery.pl, etc. ... where do they go? in head only ? |
| 00:09.54 | learner | haven't branched yet |
| 00:09.59 | menotume | ahh, ok |
| 00:10.02 | menotume | thx dev guy |
| 00:10.17 | menotume | so, no commits then ? |
| 00:10.26 | learner | commit away |
| 00:10.42 | learner | head's been bumped, okay to commit to |
| 00:10.43 | menotume | ok, not yet, but may be soon, thx |
| 00:10.49 | learner | just not breaking protocol |
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| 00:11.26 | learner | menotume, when fixed.. can it still talk to 2.0.2 servers too? |
| 00:12.41 | menotume | yes, of course :) |
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| 00:13.01 | menotume | Tegan is really doing the hard work, i'm just playing and testing |
| 00:13.48 | menotume | and getting really hungry |
| 00:15.08 | learner | boo hiss |
| 00:15.27 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03trepan * 10bzflag/src/bzflag/playing.cxx: hopefully fixes cleanWorldCache(), need windows testing |
| 00:15.32 | menotume | na, that one needs to be fixed too |
| 00:25.18 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03menotume * 10bzflag/ (ChangeLog misc/bzfquery.pl): Fix bzfquery to ignore MsgGameTime. Thanks to Tegan, the perl wizard. |
| 00:25.25 | menotume | one down, one to go |
| 00:34.51 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03trepan * 10bzflag/src/bzflag/playing.cxx: clear worldUrl when it should not be set |
| 00:35.26 | learner | heh |
| 00:35.35 | Tegan | that's perl witch to you |
| 00:37.40 | trepan | learner: put a tank on the outside of the mouth, and you've probably got it ;) |
| 00:38.36 | learner | this is nice: http://silvercat.bzleague.com/screenies/bzfi0009.png |
| 00:38.55 | learner | wrong aspect ratio, though |
| 00:39.51 | tea|tree | :) |
| 00:42.05 | silverfox | Does Toughshooter = learner !?! |
| 00:42.43 | learner | heh, no |
| 00:42.59 | learner | this one is simple, but effective http://www.kaziaz.com/stuff/bz/bzfi0067.png |
| 00:43.05 | bryjen | warning: potential loss of precision in assignment |
| 00:43.07 | learner | the tank sits in the bottom right |
| 00:43.56 | bryjen | looks washed out (faded white) here |
| 00:44.31 | trepan | bryjen: where? |
| 00:44.55 | bryjen | trepan: ? |
| 00:45.15 | bryjen | "<silverfox> Does Toughshooter = learner !?!" |
| 00:45.20 | trepan | heh |
| 00:45.35 | learner | hah |
| 00:45.53 | silverfox | hahaha |
| 00:45.58 | CBG | lol :D |
| 00:48.26 | menotume | learner: how about one like this, but with an exploding tank jumping thru the hoops ? |
| 00:48.26 | menotume | http://meno.zapto.org/bzcaps/5160rings3.png |
| 00:49.56 | learner | if everyone would stop downloading it for a sec.. |
| 00:50.01 | menotume | lol |
| 00:50.10 | learner | ooh, pretty |
| 00:50.11 | menotume | sry, my u/l is only 256k |
| 00:50.23 | menotume | needs more 'stuff' though |
| 00:50.31 | trepan | ew, stipple shadows |
| 00:50.39 | menotume | like, tanks maybe :) |
| 00:50.46 | learner | yeah, that'd be perfect, fill it up with some tanks shooting and one jumping through.. :) |
| 00:50.49 | CBG | learner: the ones at kaziaz.com (mine) apparently look low quality compared to all the others... |
| 00:51.05 | trepan | might want to get someone with GL AA too |
| 00:51.07 | CBG | it's why I got the others to take screenies too, cause they said mine looked so awful. |
| 00:51.13 | learner | CBG, quality isn't an issue.. they get resized down to 512 wide |
| 00:51.25 | CBG | ah, ok :) |
| 00:51.32 | menotume | what aspect do you need/ square/circle ? |
| 00:52.27 | learner | it's more that there's nothing interesting in the bottom right (that's where the icon goes), that the text area is off/dimmed preferably, and that something interesting is in the view |
| 00:52.47 | menotume | k |
| 00:52.48 | learner | regular aspect works.. 1024x768, 1600x1200, etc |
| 00:52.53 | menotume | gotya |
| 00:52.57 | menotume | 4:3 |
| 00:53.00 | learner | yep |
| 00:53.17 | learner | otherwise, I gotta resize the window, which isn't a problem, but i'd rather not .. :) |
| 00:54.21 | learner | oh yeah.. and scores off |
| 00:54.26 | menotume | :) |
| 00:54.48 | learner | unless it's filled with devs.. :) |
| 00:54.56 | CBG | not http://www.kaziaz.com/stuff/bz/bzfi0167.png ? |
| 00:54.57 | menotume | easier if i just cap at 384x512 ? |
| 00:55.28 | learner | CBG, I liked that one, but there are no tanks/action.. |
| 00:55.35 | menotume | heh, dunno if it goes that low though |
| 00:55.40 | CBG | CBG: there are the shots... ;) |
| 00:55.45 | CBG | uh, wtf? |
| 00:55.49 | learner | menotume, naw.. better to scale it |
| 00:55.52 | CBG | why am I speaking to myself? :( |
| 00:55.53 | menotume | k |
| 00:55.58 | CBG | learner: : there are the shots... ;) |
| 00:56.14 | learner | CBG, yeah.. everyone's seen shots :) |
| 00:56.29 | CBG | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:56.30 | menotume | wel, i wanna finish this qurey.pl stuff first, i think i have it, but testing is a bit painful |
| 00:56.37 | learner | now the new explosions are neat .. having one blowing up front and center there would have been good |
| 00:57.23 | menotume | anyone know an easy way to print the contents of a perl data structure ? |
| 00:57.45 | Tegan | menotume: you can use Data::Dumper |
| 00:59.17 | menotume | thx, witch :) |
| 01:00.39 | menotume | ahh, not much there that's any good |
| 01:01.18 | Tupone | witch or enchantress ? |
| 01:01.30 | menotume | hehe |
| 01:02.19 | CBG | learner: O_O http://meno.zapto.org/bzcaps/5159-2.png |
| 01:02.31 | learner | actually the second rings with a huge radar is the best yet |
| 01:03.12 | learner | ack.. meno's .. site .. slowing .. down |
| 01:03.18 | CBG | yep |
| 01:03.28 | learner | shoulda pm'd it :) |
| 01:03.38 | CBG | lol. yeah :) |
| 01:03.48 | CBG | or not looked myself.. |
| 01:03.49 | menotume | hehe |
| 01:04.00 | menotume | lemme build something ... |
| 01:04.18 | CBG | a tower, out os spaghetti...? |
| 01:04.22 | CBG | of* |
| 01:04.32 | CBG | those are fun to build :) |
| 01:04.35 | menotume | hmm, bzflag maybe |
| 01:04.48 | menotume | it was just a frame-rate test |
| 01:04.56 | menotume | i'm sure we can setup something purty |
| 01:05.37 | CBG | argh! menotume has my banner! Thief! :P |
| 01:05.48 | learner | that's pretty.. but not very exciting |
| 01:05.53 | CBG | " CBGdesigns.png " |
| 01:06.34 | learner | you should be honored :) |
| 01:06.51 | CBG | :D |
| 01:06.58 | menotume | hehe, i remember that |
| 01:07.24 | menotume | i think i recommended a crop |
| 01:07.58 | CBG | I think you did crop. :) |
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| 01:08.38 | CBG | you did (original: http://www.kaziaz.com/stuff/CBGdesigns.png ) |
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| 01:09.37 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03bryjen * 10bzflag/src/date/buildDate.cxx: mark 2.0.5 as under DEVELopment |
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| 01:10.38 | Silent_Swan | great, now there's some lunatic on undernet that won't leave me alone |
| 01:10.58 | CBG | wow, it is a shot like "needadmin.png" that shows what a great player Mikkey was. :) |
| 01:11.06 | Aribeth | hi Silent_Swan |
| 01:11.12 | CBG | Silent_Swan: sneeze on him, without apolgizing. :) |
| 01:11.19 | CBG | That always does the trick. |
| 01:11.21 | Silent_Swan | hi Aribeth |
| 01:11.27 | learner | hey, i recognize that havoc.. :) |
| 01:11.57 | learner | Silent_Swan, there are lots of them on that network, best to just stay off |
| 01:12.07 | learner | unelss you really want all that attention :) |
| 01:12.11 | Silent_Swan | yeah i know, i've dealt with 4 or 5 already |
| 01:13.09 | CBG | no contest... pizza. :) |
| 01:13.09 | menotume | pizza (pepperoni) |
| 01:13.22 | Aribeth | pizza :) |
| 01:13.48 | learner | i shoulda phrased it better.. "pizza AND buffalo wings" .. or something else |
| 01:13.49 | bryjen | nice to get notice he's away, 'cause if he hasn't spoken here in the last hour and a half ;) |
| 01:13.50 | CBG | Silent_Swan: I didn't have you down as the sarcastic type. :) |
| 01:14.01 | Silent_Swan | then CBG doesn't know me |
| 01:14.06 | bryjen | s/if// |
| 01:14.13 | Silent_Swan | sarcastic, cynical, pessimistic |
| 01:14.15 | CBG | bryjen indeed. |
| 01:14.15 | CBG | Silent_Swan: Do I want to? |
| 01:14.19 | CBG | Hmm, seems not. :) |
| 01:14.22 | Silent_Swan | not necessarily in that order |
| 01:14.29 | Silent_Swan | CBG probably not :) |
| 01:14.32 | learner | heh, deep question |
| 01:14.49 | learner | menotume, you're right.. not much there :) |
| 01:15.03 | learner | though big radar is cool |
| 01:15.07 | CBG | * First things first, but not necessarily in that order. |
| 01:15.26 | menotume | hehe |
| 01:15.31 | menotume | a good waste of time ? |
| 01:16.13 | Silent_Swan | hmm.. probably time to come up with a new nick on undernet... i'm out of ideas at this point |
| 01:16.32 | CBG | Someone tell me... If Barbie is so popular, why do you have to buy her friends? |
| 01:16.47 | CBG | Silent_Swan: Noisy_Duck? :) |
| 01:17.20 | Silent_Swan | so... if i screw up my nick registration with nickserv (i don't know how i managed this), how to fix it? |
| 01:17.29 | Silent_Swan | i'd rather remove the '_' |
| 01:17.36 | CBG | get a screwdriver, unscrew it. |
| 01:18.31 | CBG | One last thing before I go... |
| 01:18.50 | CBG | It's is not, it isn't ain't, and it's it's, not its, if you mean it is. If you don't, it's its. Then too, it's hers. It isn't her's. It isn't our's either. It's ours, and likewise yours and theirs. -- Oxford University Press, Edpress News |
| 01:18.56 | menotume | register another name ? |
| 01:19.06 | Silent_Swan | hmm seems i needed to use the --recheck option with --no-floppy |
| 01:19.18 | CBG | :) God bless you all and have a good night. |
| 01:19.24 | menotume | cu CBG |
| 01:19.31 | lan56 | bye |
| 01:19.43 | learner | Erroneous quacks.. are those like Strang quarks? |
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| 01:20.33 | learner | Erroneous charm? :) |
| 01:20.39 | Erroneous | :) |
| 01:20.48 | lan56 | cha cha cha...charmin |
| 01:21.29 | Erroneous | learner: just be glad I'm not a fan of Bottom ;) |
| 01:21.34 | learner | Silent_Swan, you can register a new nick, and even link it to the existing |
| 01:21.39 | learner | you designate any of them as a primary |
| 01:21.44 | Silent_Swan | hmm |
| 01:21.54 | Silent_Swan | that's great, but i can't access the other one |
| 01:22.14 | learner | so just register a new one :) |
| 01:22.21 | learner | the old one will disappear after a while |
| 01:22.25 | Silent_Swan | oh |
| 01:22.28 | Silent_Swan | that's what i did |
| 01:22.32 | Silent_Swan | how long til it expires? |
| 01:22.37 | learner | couples months |
| 01:22.41 | Silent_Swan | *sigh* |
| 01:22.42 | Silent_Swan | ok |
| 01:23.15 | learner | heh, bothers you and your need to keep things clean and ordered in a freakish manner? :) |
| 01:23.30 | Silent_Swan | exactly |
| 01:24.22 | Tegan | hi Swan |
| 01:24.34 | Silent_Swan | hi |
| 01:25.13 | Aribeth | hi Tegan |
| 01:25.52 | learner | hmm.. so i have like 5 contenders for the disk image, think i just need a majority to pick one |
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| 01:27.18 | Silent_Swan | *sigh* wasted my time installing gentoo linux, too... |
| 01:35.43 | learner | okay, so a little help please .. |
| 01:35.58 | learner | 4 candidates.. lemme know which one you like best |
| 01:36.06 | learner | http://bzflag.bz/tmp/dmg/ |
| 01:37.43 | learner | all votes count |
| 01:38.08 | Thumper_ | flying tank parts and big explosions get my vote everytime ;) |
| 01:39.16 | Thumper_ | night all |
| 01:39.20 | learner | thx |
| 01:39.49 | tea|tree | ei! |
| 01:39.56 | Thumper_ | oh before I go... is someone working on the bzfquery (.pl,.py) problem with 2.0.4 servers? |
| 01:40.17 | learner | Thumper_, yes someone is |
| 01:40.30 | Thumper_ | ok good :) |
| 01:40.32 | bryjen | Thumper_: menotume & Tegan fixed the .pl |
| 01:40.41 | Aribeth | vote??? |
| 01:40.52 | learner | http://bzflag.bz/tmp/dmg/ |
| 01:41.11 | Thumper_ | I need the .py version for my website stats and server reset tools |
| 01:41.17 | Thumper_ | I'll check on that in the morning |
| 01:41.22 | Thumper_ | bye! |
| 01:41.48 | bryjen | i like the 3rd pic, but it still looks faded here. |
| 01:42.02 | silverfox | can I get another set of eyes on a map? ever since I added the last section to this map http://elite.tybox.net/mapwiki.bzw I can't seem to connect. The error logs don't show anything wrong though. |
| 01:42.07 | Aribeth | i vote for #2 |
| 01:42.23 | silverfox | oh... i'm missing size |
| 01:44.06 | menotume | ya, #2 looks good - doesn't look tankish, but looks good to me |
| 01:44.39 | learner | silverfox's vote? |
| 01:45.17 | learner | so far, 2 for 3 and 3 for 2 |
| 01:45.41 | Aribeth | yay #2 in the lead |
| 01:46.44 | bryjen | hmm, zones have a default size of 1. perhaps that's too small and its looping like mad trying to hit a random point inside that.... |
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| 01:49.28 | learner | _bubbles_, which do you like best: http://bzflag.bz/tmp/dmg/ ? |
| 01:49.55 | menotume | 2 for tea and tea for 2 .... |
| 01:50.51 | _bubbles_ | dmg2 |
| 01:51.06 | learner | oh, a slight break in the lead |
| 01:54.26 | Aribeth | :) |
| 01:55.51 | menotume | wait, i change my vote |
| 01:55.54 | menotume | #5 |
| 01:55.59 | Aribeth | lol |
| 01:56.00 | learner | hehe |
| 01:56.38 | Aribeth | what map is #4 from? |
| 01:57.25 | learner | beatish me |
| 01:57.50 | Aribeth | heh |
| 01:58.55 | trepan | ClayOgre's darkworld |
| 01:59.09 | Aribeth | ahh |
| 02:08.19 | tea|tree | gnite |
| 02:08.25 | tea|tree | 4:08 am ;) |
| 02:08.35 | Aribeth | cya |
| 02:19.09 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03menotume * 10db/support/BZFlag/Info.pm: Fix for 'unexpected' MsgGameTime by Tegan, the perl witch. |
| 02:19.25 | Tegan | ~menotume++ |
| 02:19.32 | menotume | ~Tegan++ |
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| 02:26.05 | I_Died_Once | So is there going to be a 2.0.6 or is the next stop 2.1 ? |
| 02:28.06 | Aribeth | the next release will be 5.1.2.7.7.3 |
| 02:28.13 | Aribeth | :P |
| 02:30.07 | silverfox | bryjen, I think that is exactly what was happening. Maybe if no size is specified, the zone would be ignored would be better? |
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| 02:40.58 | wegstar | hmm.. for the plugins, when I do a switch statement for the different types of events in the event handler, they don't work, however if I just do one it works... why is that? |
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| 03:02.00 | learner | okay, something definitely has changed recently.. panic on exit again :) |
| 03:02.44 | trepan | any clues? which map... (did you even get that far?) |
| 03:04.09 | learner | not much |
| 03:04.27 | learner | that was on louman's after a guy hopped up on top of one of the barriers in front of me |
| 03:04.54 | trepan | playing? observer mode? |
| 03:05.50 | learner | the framerate almost instantly drops to about 2 fps and then cuts in half about every second .. f12 starts to respond and fades to black, then hang |
| 03:06.01 | learner | playing |
| 03:06.12 | learner | same behavior as before though |
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| 03:07.18 | Aribeth | well, think i found a bug |
| 03:07.39 | Aribeth | jumped onto a tele and got stuck |
| 03:08.18 | lan56 | was there a wall or object on the other end? sometimes that happens, and all you see is yellow |
| 03:08.33 | Aribeth | nope |
| 03:09.00 | Aribeth | its in a drivethough shootthrough mesh |
| 03:09.22 | Aribeth | it dosnt say im sealed either |
| 03:09.33 | lan56 | ahh, that does sound like a bug |
| 03:10.19 | Aribeth | ahh i finaly got shot |
| 03:10.43 | Aribeth | the tele has the standatd border |
| 03:13.38 | Aribeth | yep i can reproduce it |
| 03:13.58 | Aribeth | jump onto a tele and get stuck |
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| 03:21.24 | Tegan | someone else was talking about that yesterday |
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| 03:22.28 | Tegan | can't remember who it was |
| 03:42.17 | bryjen | silverfox: no. whoever wrote the point-choosing logic was smarter than that. it does not loop picking random points wildly and then check to see if they're in the zone. |
| 03:48.22 | *** part/#bzflag bryjen (n=bryjen@63.147.94.151) |
| 03:48.54 | learner | heh, it does that for spawn entry selection or at least used to :) |
| 03:49.37 | learner | oh yeah |
| 03:49.52 | learner | the mac binary is uploaded for anyone waiting for it, forgot to mention it ;) |
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| 04:18.02 | JeffM2501 | learner, did you hit the "notify" button? |
| 04:18.10 | JeffM2501 | for the mac project? |
| 04:19.22 | Aribeth | i havn't seen it....yet |
| 04:20.07 | JeffM2501 | you should |
| 04:20.19 | Aribeth | oh i will, i will |
| 04:23.05 | JeffM2501 | the music is geat |
| 04:24.17 | brlcad | JeffM2501: of course |
| 04:26.10 | JeffM2501 | then they got notified :) |
| 04:27.10 | JeffM2501 | now to find out why SLI geeks on the new cards in bz |
| 04:32.53 | wegstar | hmm about the bz_PlayerJoinPartEventData from the plugins... "callsign" gives up weird characters... |
| 04:33.28 | wegstar | ex.: username of "asdf" becomes "♥14asdf☼" |
| 04:33.46 | wegstar | ah.. nvm |
| 04:39.38 | JeffM2501 | it's not a char* :) |
| 04:40.00 | wegstar | no.. it was something else ;) |
| 04:40.16 | wegstar | I added "\00314" |
| 04:40.32 | wegstar | for irc text coloring.. and it showed up on a debug message.. |
| 04:40.51 | wegstar | and I got confused for a second.. ;) |
| 04:41.19 | Tegan | geeks? |
| 04:43.17 | bryjen | ~dict 1 geek |
| 04:44.04 | bryjen | biting the head off of... the computer... the video cards are eating your monitors? |
| 04:45.00 | Aribeth | lol |
| 04:46.09 | wegstar | hehe |
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| 04:56.16 | wegstar | "'BZ_ALL_USERS' : undeclared identifier".. umm |
| 04:57.00 | JeffM2501 | it changd |
| 04:57.02 | JeffM2501 | :) |
| 04:57.11 | JeffM2501 | read the headers |
| 04:57.16 | wegstar | update the docs :P |
| 04:57.18 | JeffM2501 | the teams were pulled from the unumeration |
| 04:57.20 | JeffM2501 | I did |
| 04:57.35 | wegstar | hmm |
| 04:57.45 | JeffM2501 | or at least I thohgt they were |
| 04:57.55 | wegstar | hmm.. not in functions.html |
| 04:58.48 | JeffM2501 | wierd |
| 04:59.03 | JeffM2501 | basicly teams were pulled from the #defs and a new team enum was added |
| 04:59.10 | JeffM2501 | so it all changed |
| 04:59.17 | JeffM2501 | happend a long while go tho |
| 04:59.20 | wegstar | o |
| 05:00.18 | BenUrban | what exactly is an unumeration? |
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| 05:00.43 | JeffM2501 | enumeration |
| 05:00.48 | BenUrban | better ;) |
| 05:00.57 | JeffM2501 | this keyboard sucks |
| 05:01.20 | JeffM2501 | so your job is now to just correct me on mistypes? |
| 05:01.24 | BenUrban | yes |
| 05:01.32 | JeffM2501 | who gave you that job? |
| 05:01.38 | BenUrban | umm |
| 05:01.43 | BenUrban | hmm |
| 05:01.55 | bryjen | bzfquery.pl still isn't quite right. now it's dieing while listing the players. probly msggametime again.... |
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| 05:08.18 | lan56 | I just realised that only two key presses are processed at once |
| 05:08.33 | lan56 | ex, you cant go forward, turn, and shoot at once |
| 05:11.47 | wegstar | wow.. never noticed that... |
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| 05:18.58 | wegstar | hmm bzfs.lib -> bzfs.a ? |
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| 05:37.52 | uso | anyadmin for viper alife? unkillable tank "Anyone Would." |
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| 05:41.30 | WonderMop | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:41.45 | WonderMop | oops |
| 05:46.55 | silverfox | is it inappropriate to let server admins know about cheaters and/or a hostban we've applied? |
| 05:47.14 | silverfox | s/?$/ here?/ |
| 05:47.21 | Tegan | hi silverfox |
| 05:48.33 | Tegan | maybe it depends |
| 05:48.45 | WonderMop | famous cheater? |
| 05:49.14 | silverfox | depends on what? |
| 05:49.53 | Tegan | that's a good question... I guess that depends too |
| 05:51.00 | Tegan | uso, I started watching after you asked, he paused right away, and he just left there. |
| 05:51.15 | Tegan | I'm not an admin at Viper, but there it is. |
| 05:52.23 | Tegan | silverfox, maybe it depends on which server admins, how much you have a trust and/or working relation with them, and other things that I cannot think of. |
| 05:52.27 | silverfox | his hostmask doesn't seem to be present here, so I'm not feeding anyone's ego. |
| 05:53.25 | silverfox | Tegan, I'm not following you. which server admins what? |
| 05:53.44 | silverfox | The nicks in my log that fall under the hostmask (not necessarily the cheater) are: |
| 05:53.45 | silverfox | ezkill, Tactical Womens Alert Team <-- cheater, The Team Killer, Harley <-- cheater, Anyone Would <-- cheater, I'm going to get that Batman, Yikes, Crayola.., Player Sticking it in her <-- cheater, Eating her out <-- cheater, bruno, aajjww, pinnacle, tight rope |
| 05:54.02 | silverfox | the ones labeled cheater are CONFIRMED, and I have a recording too. |
| 05:54.37 | silverfox | the hostmask is *.sndg02.pacbell.net |
| 05:56.11 | WonderMop | why don't we run cheat servers? |
| 05:56.51 | wegstar | people do |
| 05:57.14 | WonderMop | oh... lol.. i missed them :P |
| 06:18.25 | wegstar | ... |
| 06:18.27 | wegstar | night all |
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| 06:55.02 | TimRiker | ~bzfquery trepan.bzflag.bz |
| 06:55.18 | TimRiker | ~bzflist |
| 06:55.38 | TimRiker | ~bzfquery viper.pimpi.org:5158 |
| 06:56.32 | trepan | ~bzfquery trepan.bzflag.bz:5432 |
| 06:56.39 | _Manu_ | ibot is sleeping.. heh |
| 06:58.24 | TimRiker | ~bzfquery trepan.bzflag.bz:5432 |
| 06:59.00 | _Manu_ | ~bzfquery viper.pimpi.org:5158 |
| 06:59.09 | _Manu_ | :) |
| 07:00.55 | trepan | (not that bzadmin wasn't already broken by recent servers) |
| 07:01.11 | TimRiker | what else was broken? |
| 07:01.32 | trepan | MsgMessage before MsgAccept, iirc |
| 07:01.42 | TimRiker | hmm |
| 07:02.47 | trepan | that's already been fixed |
| 07:02.57 | trepan | (ServerLink::readEnter) |
| 07:03.00 | _Manu_ | it was fixed time ago iirc |
| 07:04.19 | _Manu_ | TimRiker, does the baby let you sleep? ;) |
| 07:04.30 | trepan | _Manu_: yup, i remember doing it ;) |
| 07:04.34 | TimRiker | sometimes. |
| 07:05.53 | TimRiker | ~bzfquery trepan.bzflag.bz:5432 |
| 07:05.59 | TimRiker | hmm |
| 07:10.47 | TimRiker | ~bzfquery trepan.bzflag.bz:5432 |
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| 07:12.32 | TimRiker | ~bzfquery trepan.bzflag.bz:5432 |
| 07:12.38 | TimRiker | argh. |
| 07:16.21 | TimRiker | ~bzfquery trepan.bzflag.bz:5432 |
| 07:16.47 | TimRiker | ~bzfquery trepan.bzflag.bz:5432 |
| 07:16.52 | TimRiker | now I killed it. |
| 07:17.05 | TimRiker | ibot: die |
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| 07:17.41 | *** topic/#bzflag is http://BZFlag.org/ || http://my.BZFlag.org/bb/ || http://my.BZFlag.org/ || http://cia.navi.cx/stats/project/BZFlag || http://BZFlag.org/wiki/GettingHelp || http://BZFlag.org/wiki/Download || #bzchat if you just want to chat || paste errors to http://bzflag.pastebin.ca || BZFlag 2.0.4 Released! |
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| 07:17.51 | TimRiker | ~bzfquery trepan.bzflag.bz:5432 |
| 07:18.11 | TimRiker | yea. |
| 07:19.47 | jpa- | if (serverdata == 26484) print '0026 No Players'; ,) |
| 07:20.08 | TimRiker | ;) |
| 07:21.22 | TimRiker | it uses buffered i/o so I parsed the msg type instead of just blindly trusting the length. really the whole script should get reworked that way... but this suffices. |
| 07:21.48 | TimRiker | ~bzfquery viper.pimpi.org:5158 |
| 07:22.04 | TimRiker | as an added bonus, I didn't break it for old servers. |
| 07:22.56 | trepan | ~bzfquery trepan.bzflag.bz:5432 |
| 07:23.03 | TimRiker | =) |
| 07:23.42 | TimRiker | well, I'm gonna try sleeping for a change. |
| 07:29.58 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03trepan * 10bzflag/ (8 files in 3 dirs): |
| 07:29.58 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: - added fog using bzdb vars |
| 07:29.58 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: (with the ability to turn it off locally) |
| 07:29.58 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: - modified the ground receivers so that they blend properly |
| 07:29.58 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: (they really should be blindy drawing with green) |
| 07:30.12 | trepan | heh, should not |
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| 08:04.17 | trepan | http://trepan.bzflag.bz/noshow/dreary.jpg |
| 08:04.50 | purple_cow | trepan: that's kind of pretty |
| 08:05.15 | Tegan | yeah |
| 08:05.45 | trepan | also works nicely as a proximal uniform light source |
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| 09:26.32 | jpa- | oooooooh fog! |
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| 11:21.59 | CBG | 2.0.4 for mac isnt working |
| 11:22.12 | CBG | hmm, it suggests -dir ... |
| 11:22.22 | CBG | wheres the data folder? :S |
| 11:22.54 | ToughShooter | It works for me |
| 11:23.26 | ToughShooter | My own compiled version and the official one are fine on all my machines |
| 11:24.07 | CBG | " No fonts found (the -directory option may help). Exiting " ... |
| 11:25.27 | CBG | Could it be that I have a working CVS version on here? |
| 11:26.29 | CBG | learner ping |
| 11:30.41 | trepan | CBG: do you have a filesystem search tool? find std_ground.png, and point it there |
| 11:31.08 | CBG | trepan: to the dir thats in? not the file... |
| 11:31.30 | CBG | hmm, the only relevant one is in my cvs datd folder... |
| 11:31.37 | trepan | that'll do |
| 11:31.37 | CBG | is there no data folder with 2.0.4? O.o |
| 11:31.55 | trepan | it may be a problem with the installation, learn to adapt |
| 11:32.14 | ruskie | :) |
| 11:32.19 | CBG | I don't like change... :( |
| 11:35.12 | meacan | why did you then install 2.0.4? :) |
| 11:35.48 | CBG | to keep up to date. |
| 11:36.09 | CBG | besides, I dont think too much has changed in the last 2 weeks... |
| 11:39.19 | ToughShooter | CBG: The equiv of the data dir is called "Resources" on Macs |
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| 13:43.25 | Grumbler | great, now we can have depressing maps ..... |
| 13:48.12 | trepan | =) |
| 13:49.13 | Birdie | trepan: nice screanshot |
| 13:49.38 | trepan | thx, and thx to LouMan for the map, it was a good demo for fog |
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| 14:29.10 | learner | trepan, sweet |
| 14:29.25 | learner | ToughShooter, glad to hear it |
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| 15:10.04 | Tupone | brlcad: what ? |
| 15:10.30 | Tupone | did you get one crash out of two ? |
| 15:11.39 | brlcad | no, i've played three times.. crashed on me all three |
| 15:12.15 | brlcad | the last one, I wasn't even into the game 3 seconds when it froze up on me |
| 15:12.31 | brlcad | nothing in my view but a big wall |
| 15:13.19 | Tupone | your name servers are good ? |
| 15:13.39 | brlcad | name servers? |
| 15:13.44 | Tupone | you should take care you never incur in timeout |
| 15:13.46 | brlcad | i was already in the game |
| 15:13.56 | brlcad | no problems on list server, etc |
| 15:14.00 | Tupone | if you get once, better quit from the game |
| 15:14.19 | Tupone | we should remove those signal |
| 15:14.49 | brlcad | this is a hard crash .. kernel freezes up -- which has always been an opengl problem in the past |
| 15:15.26 | Tupone | well, if that is really an hard crash, then forget what I said :) |
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| 15:21.22 | Tupone | had someone yet written to /. about release ? |
| 15:22.14 | learner | oof |
| 15:27.52 | brlcad | not that I know of |
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| 15:35.59 | learner | moo |
| 15:36.22 | jpa- | min |
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| 15:49.41 | JeffM2501 | brlcad, did the 10.2 build have plugin support? |
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| 15:56.39 | Tupone | JeffM2501: I guess no |
| 15:56.59 | Tupone | something related to dlopen (?) |
| 15:58.53 | JeffM2501 | he probably didn't have libtool setup on 10.2 |
| 16:05.49 | Aribeth | mooo |
| 16:14.03 | brlcad | JeffM2501: 10.2 doesn't support the dl interface |
| 16:15.05 | brlcad | 10.3+ include a dlcompat interface so that dl* calls work (even though they technically still don't do the same thing under the hood) |
| 16:15.33 | brlcad | libtool all works fine, that's old stuff |
| 16:15.51 | JeffM2501 | ahh |
| 16:16.02 | brlcad | everything in bz is built via libtool -- if that didn't work.. nothing would compile |
| 16:16.44 | JeffM2501 | the one user that got "unknown command" for the listplugins thing, sounded like the #def wasn't defined |
| 16:17.10 | brlcad | i responded to that |
| 16:18.00 | JeffM2501 | ok |
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| 16:21.39 | RPG_ | Hey, is there any IRC channel running a demo of wegstar's plugin? |
| 16:23.30 | Tupone | hmm debian repository still show 2.0.2 |
| 16:24.50 | JeffM2501 | when was it updated? |
| 16:28.25 | Tupone | It was just a message for Tim :) Remembering him to update |
| 16:32.58 | JeffM2501 | brlcad, I say we make a 10.3 build and post it as well |
| 16:33.14 | JeffM2501 | give em incentive to upgrade |
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| 16:40.42 | Tegan | hi kah |
| 16:41.10 | Tegan | hi kahcepb[RU]* |
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| 17:01.05 | kahcepb[RU] | hi Tegan |
| 17:01.32 | JeffM2501 | yay SLI works again :) |
| 17:01.34 | ToughShooter | Hi kah + Tegan |
| 17:02.36 | kahcepb[RU] | hi ts et all |
| 17:02.48 | RPG_ | hi |
| 17:05.22 | jpa- | give them to me! |
| 17:05.32 | jpa- | i'm happy with almost anything after TNT2 :) |
| 17:05.51 | JeffM2501 | 1) barely know you, 2) they are not AGP |
| 17:05.59 | blast007 | by "old", are you referring to the 6600's? :) |
| 17:06.01 | jpa- | :/ |
| 17:06.04 | Tegan | nhi ToughShooter |
| 17:06.07 | JeffM2501 | yah the 6600s |
| 17:06.11 | blast007 | hehe |
| 17:06.39 | JeffM2501 | well the "new" ones are also 6600's |
| 17:06.44 | JeffM2501 | but are GTs |
| 17:06.47 | blast007 | ah |
| 17:07.07 | jpa- | you could get some cheap monitors and make a huge screen for playing bzflag :) |
| 17:07.28 | JeffM2501 | jpa-, no more cards can fit in the system |
| 17:07.31 | JeffM2501 | allready have 2 |
| 17:07.41 | JeffM2501 | and I have these 2 old ones too |
| 17:07.49 | JeffM2501 | techincaly I can do 6 displays |
| 17:07.55 | JeffM2501 | as long as 2 are TVs |
| 17:08.21 | blast007 | 6 projectors ;) |
| 17:08.40 | JeffM2501 | 2 DVI per card and one HDTV out |
| 17:08.52 | JeffM2501 | if I don't enable SLI, all 3 are enabled per card |
| 17:09.08 | JeffM2501 | if I do SLI it's a single display for both cards combined |
| 17:09.37 | RPG_ | pipe your computer screen image into every single room in your house/apartment/dorm |
| 17:10.01 | JeffM2501 | why? |
| 17:10.10 | RPG_ | 'cause you can! |
| 17:13.46 | JeffM2501 | TVs make crap displays |
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| 17:20.50 | teh_conqerer | JeffM2501, you have dual 6600 GT's? |
| 17:21.34 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 17:21.40 | JeffM2501 | need to OC em now |
| 17:21.42 | teh_conqerer | what kinda mobo are you using? |
| 17:21.50 | JeffM2501 | some whackass brand |
| 17:21.52 | JeffM2501 | XFX |
| 17:21.57 | JeffM2501 | oh mobo |
| 17:22.03 | JeffM2501 | it's a Gigabyte nforce 4 |
| 17:22.05 | teh_conqerer | XFX cards aren't too bad |
| 17:22.13 | teh_conqerer | they come stock with jacked speeds :-P |
| 17:22.16 | JeffM2501 | they were free, so can't complain |
| 17:23.04 | teh_conqerer | I'm gunna have to upgrade soonm |
| 17:23.23 | teh_conqerer | just got my 9800 Pro and I feel like its too old already :-P |
| 17:23.43 | teh_conqerer | should just saved the money, got $90 more and got an x850 pro |
| 17:24.12 | teh_conqerer | but a 9800 pro will tide me over until I go 64 bit |
| 17:24.15 | JeffM2501 | 9800's? |
| 17:24.17 | JeffM2501 | they are all ol |
| 17:24.19 | JeffM2501 | old |
| 17:24.22 | teh_conqerer | i know |
| 17:24.27 | JeffM2501 | that's like comparable to an X300 |
| 17:24.30 | teh_conqerer | like 2 or 3 years |
| 17:24.38 | teh_conqerer | 2 years, I believe |
| 17:24.48 | teh_conqerer | 9800 pro is a good card though |
| 17:24.55 | JeffM2501 | for an ATI |
| 17:24.59 | teh_conqerer | and no its not :-P |
| 17:25.12 | teh_conqerer | x300's have slower clocks, IIRC |
| 17:25.20 | JeffM2501 | ahh |
| 17:25.38 | JeffM2501 | what I read was the end performance was about the same |
| 17:25.50 | JeffM2501 | but still there is much better |
| 17:26.07 | teh_conqerer | in aquamark, my system scores a 45,000 |
| 17:26.09 | teh_conqerer | i know |
| 17:26.21 | teh_conqerer | I just needed something to use until I went 64 bit |
| 17:28.25 | teh_conqerer | but for a 32 bit system, its pretty tricked out |
| 17:28.28 | JeffM2501 | how much did you pay for it? |
| 17:28.33 | teh_conqerer | 3200+ athlon xp |
| 17:28.52 | JeffM2501 | ehh that's kinda midrange now |
| 17:28.54 | teh_conqerer | think about $550-$600 maybe a little bit more |
| 17:29.05 | JeffM2501 | no for the card |
| 17:29.10 | teh_conqerer | gig of dual channeled corsair twinx ram |
| 17:29.13 | teh_conqerer | oh |
| 17:29.18 | teh_conqerer | 140 |
| 17:29.25 | JeffM2501 | whoa! |
| 17:29.29 | JeffM2501 | that is wya too much |
| 17:29.30 | teh_conqerer | err |
| 17:29.31 | teh_conqerer | no |
| 17:29.32 | teh_conqerer | 120 |
| 17:29.41 | JeffM2501 | you can get an X800pro for 170 |
| 17:29.43 | JeffM2501 | even AGP |
| 17:30.36 | teh_conqerer | no, its a bit closer to 200 than that |
| 17:30.46 | JeffM2501 | 128meg or 256 |
| 17:31.06 | teh_conqerer | 256 meg |
| 17:31.16 | JeffM2501 | ATI had them on sale for 170 |
| 17:31.18 | JeffM2501 | probably still do |
| 17:31.46 | Thumper_ | assuming nobody has fixed bzfquery.py yet... here's a patch that works http://www.norang.ca/tmp/bzfquery.py.diff |
| 17:31.58 | teh_conqerer | the ati cards are a little over 200 on most websites |
| 17:32.05 | teh_conqerer | and the asus ones are even more expensive |
| 17:32.09 | JeffM2501 | teh_conqerer, that is why you swap around |
| 17:32.13 | JeffM2501 | shop around :) |
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| 17:32.33 | JeffM2501 | I'd have goten an X700 at least |
| 17:32.36 | JeffM2501 | for the new shaders |
| 17:32.36 | teh_conqerer | true true |
| 17:32.50 | teh_conqerer | the x700's have shader 3? |
| 17:32.57 | JeffM2501 | I think so |
| 17:33.12 | JeffM2501 | thought all the "X" ones had the newer stuff |
| 17:33.21 | JeffM2501 | but you never know with ATI and there naming schemes |
| 17:35.43 | teh_conqerer | i dont see anything that says shader 3 but they do have alot of fancy stuff |
| 17:36.51 | JeffM2501 | well then I'd also not have got an ATI but... |
| 17:37.37 | teh_conqerer | heh, forgot, you're not an ATi guy :-P |
| 17:37.58 | JeffM2501 | I pondered an X800 |
| 17:38.23 | JeffM2501 | maybe when the new crossfire chipsets come out, I can get some handmedown 7800s |
| 17:38.38 | teh_conqerer | thats what I'm waiting for |
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| 17:39.57 | teh_conqerer | but i'm gunna have to buy my 7800's :-P |
| 17:41.20 | JeffM2501 | I'm not sure that SLI is all it's cracked up to be tho |
| 17:41.29 | teh_conqerer | yeah |
| 17:41.30 | JeffM2501 | what OS do you run? |
| 17:41.35 | teh_conqerer | XP |
| 17:41.37 | teh_conqerer | Pro |
| 17:41.41 | teh_conqerer | SP2 Corp edition |
| 17:41.54 | JeffM2501 | what games do you play that are SLI enabled? |
| 17:42.14 | teh_conqerer | i dont know, I dont have SLI'd cards :-) |
| 17:42.30 | teh_conqerer | FEAR has SLI capabilities, I think |
| 17:42.31 | JeffM2501 | what games do you play? |
| 17:43.03 | teh_conqerer | mainly just really good demos right now, until good games come out |
| 17:43.05 | teh_conqerer | oh! |
| 17:43.13 | teh_conqerer | Call of Duty 2 demo has SLI enabled |
| 17:43.17 | JeffM2501 | basicly SLI dosn't give you like a 2x boost on all things |
| 17:43.25 | JeffM2501 | it speeds up some parts of some games |
| 17:43.54 | JeffM2501 | crossfire is actualy a much more robust system |
| 17:44.11 | teh_conqerer | and it has a cooler name :-0 |
| 17:44.12 | teh_conqerer | :-) |
| 17:45.19 | teh_conqerer | JeffM2501, have you played the F.E.A.R. single player or multi player demo yet? |
| 17:46.03 | JeffM2501 | no |
| 17:46.21 | JeffM2501 | is it massivly multiplayer? |
| 17:46.25 | teh_conqerer | neg |
| 17:46.28 | teh_conqerer | but it is fun |
| 17:46.49 | JeffM2501 | shooters get old fast |
| 17:47.45 | teh_conqerer | its fun for whatever time you play it though |
| 17:47.52 | teh_conqerer | it uses the havoc engine |
| 17:48.30 | JeffM2501 | many things do use that physics system |
| 17:48.39 | JeffM2501 | but ragdolls get old too |
| 17:48.55 | teh_conqerer | and its not just scary because of darkness, like Doom3, its scary because of the actual atmosphere of the game |
| 17:49.16 | teh_conqerer | cant wait for it to be release |
| 17:49.29 | teh_conqerer | thats about the only game that I'm going to buy in the next year or so |
| 17:49.38 | teh_conqerer | until unreal tournament 2007 |
| 17:50.11 | JeffM2501 | doom3 is a flashlight simulator |
| 17:50.29 | JeffM2501 | an engine demo that ID conned the fanboys into paying for |
| 17:50.48 | teh_conqerer | haha |
| 17:51.09 | JeffM2501 | ID should stop making games |
| 17:51.26 | JeffM2501 | and just make engines |
| 17:51.32 | teh_conqerer | yes |
| 17:51.45 | JeffM2501 | and someone teach JohnyC C++ |
| 17:52.50 | teh_conqerer | well, I need to pull this giant floppy out and take it to my friends house |
| 17:53.10 | teh_conqerer | 20 gig seagate harddrive |
| 17:53.44 | teh_conqerer | use it to transfer files over to my friend because he only lives down the street and he has wireless internet |
| 17:53.53 | teh_conqerer | he can play games, but he cant download things |
| 17:54.00 | teh_conqerer | way too slow |
| 17:54.12 | RPG_ | so you're his proxy server? |
| 17:55.28 | *** join/#bzflag teh_conqerer (i=teh_conq@host-148-144-230-24.midco.net) |
| 17:55.43 | teh_conqerer | no, i just download them, put them on my old harddrive and drive them to him |
| 17:56.08 | JeffM2501 | that means you are his proxy server :) |
| 17:56.44 | teh_conqerer | haha, alright I guess that sums it up :-) |
| 17:58.25 | teh_conqerer | well, be right back |
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| 18:11.59 | menotume | ~bzfquery bzflag.sleepycows.us:5159 |
| 18:12.16 | menotume | thx TimRiker !!! |
| 18:19.25 | TimRiker | =) |
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| 18:42.55 | Thumper_ | any devs around? |
| 18:43.22 | JeffM2501 | what is up? |
| 18:43.26 | Thumper_ | bzfquery.py doesn't work with 2.0.4 |
| 18:43.30 | Thumper_ | I posted a patch |
| 18:43.33 | Thumper_ | that fixes it if you want it |
| 18:43.50 | Thumper_ | http://www.norang.ca/tmp/bzfquery.py.diff |
| 18:44.38 | JeffM2501 | ~bzfquery trepan.bzflag.bz:5433 |
| 18:44.51 | JeffM2501 | I think Tim's allready taken care of it :0 |
| 18:44.56 | Thumper_ | that is the perl version |
| 18:44.58 | Thumper_ | not the python version |
| 18:44.59 | JeffM2501 | since he's the owner of the bot, not our project :) |
| 18:45.05 | JeffM2501 | ohh the one in misc? |
| 18:45.07 | Thumper_ | yes |
| 18:45.21 | JeffM2501 | just mail me the new file and I'll commit it, I can't do a patch |
| 18:45.27 | Thumper_ | ok |
| 18:45.33 | Thumper_ | need an email... |
| 18:45.44 | JeffM2501 | jeff@bzflag.bz |
| 18:45.46 | JeffM2501 | maybe |
| 18:45.51 | JeffM2501 | or maybe jeffm |
| 18:45.54 | JeffM2501 | I never remember :) |
| 18:45.56 | Thumper_ | :) |
| 18:49.21 | Thumper_ | sent to jeffm@@bzflag.bz ... |
| 18:49.26 | Thumper_ | waiting for bounce : |
| 18:49.28 | Thumper_ | :) |
| 18:49.43 | Thumper_ | -@ |
| 18:50.28 | Tegan | cool, the 'nocs work for observers... is this new? |
| 18:51.35 | JeffM2501 | gotta head out, I'll apply it when I get back |
| 18:52.27 | Thumper_ | JeffM2501: ok - let me know if you didn't get it |
| 18:52.38 | JeffM2501 | I checked a bit ago and didn't see it |
| 18:52.44 | JeffM2501 | I'm probably just jef |
| 18:52.45 | JeffM2501 | jeff |
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| 18:53.03 | RPG_ | Tegan: F9, F10, and F11 always worked |
| 18:53.12 | RPG_ | for zoom in/ zoom out/ zoom reset |
| 18:53.20 | *** part/#bzflag RPG_ (n=G-bus@c-24-15-87-171.hsd1.il.comcast.net) |
| 18:54.30 | Tegan | Yeah, but I don't remember binoculars working before. |
| 18:54.43 | Grumbler | dont think i ever tried |
| 18:57.43 | blast007 | binoculars was added |
| 18:57.49 | blast007 | I recall seeing the commit |
| 18:59.09 | Tegan | cool, it isn't in the changelog so I thought maybe I was just hallucinating it |
| 19:00.17 | trepan | Tegan: it's new, somebody spent too much time on little observer tweaks |
| 19:00.53 | Tegan | ~somebody++ |
| 19:01.34 | trepan | you tried the slow-mo observer controls? 'a' key, esp. nice in tracking modes |
| 19:01.54 | Tegan | hmm |
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| 19:04.32 | Tegan | ah, that's how it works |
| 19:04.51 | Tegan | hi Silent_Swan |
| 19:05.14 | Tegan | it's like a sustain pedal |
| 19:05.20 | Tegan | sorta |
| 19:05.58 | Silent_Swan | in a musical mood today? |
| 19:06.33 | Tegan | you're not going to sing are you? |
| 19:06.41 | Silent_Swan | no, i'll spare you the agony |
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| 19:07.20 | menotume | hellos swan |
| 19:07.26 | menotume | ciao tupone |
| 19:07.27 | Silent_Swan | hey |
| 19:07.41 | Tupone | hi menotume |
| 19:11.05 | Silent_Swan | need to nail this *now* before it gets ugly |
| 19:12.02 | ToughShooter | Is it intentional, that no "-" is showing up when no entry of a certain username exists in user database and that player joins with false password? |
| 19:13.44 | Tegan | if no entry exists the password is not false, but meaningless |
| 19:15.26 | ToughShooter | I tested it when the user has entered a false password on todays CVS and there is no "-", "+" or "@" |
| 19:16.03 | ToughShooter | Tegan: ? |
| 19:17.01 | jpa- | ToughShooter: probably not intentional but just a forgotten chance :) |
| 19:18.12 | jpa- | it should check if there is globally registered account for that name? |
| 19:18.12 | ToughShooter | Come see it yourself, I've a running test server with my IP. Just enter a false password when using a registered username |
| 19:18.13 | Tegan | ah |
| 19:18.13 | ToughShooter | I think so |
| 19:19.31 | jpa- | yeah |
| 19:19.46 | jpa- | what version is the server? |
| 19:19.50 | jpa- | CVS also? |
| 19:20.08 | ToughShooter | join and see :p |
| 19:20.46 | ToughShooter | ~bzfquery 84.176.8.197:5154 |
| 19:21.01 | jpa- | i joined already |
| 19:21.07 | jpa- | but forgot to take the version? |
| 19:22.05 | ToughShooter | jpa-: read the first line I wrote some minutes ago ;) |
| 19:24.12 | ToughShooter | someone should set up a little script running on m.b.o taking a username as parameter and responding with 1 or 0 (registered or not) |
| 19:24.54 | ToughShooter | so servers could easily check if the name is registered |
| 19:25.35 | Tegan | ToughShooter, I see what you mean now |
| 19:26.09 | ToughShooter | Any dev around? |
| 19:27.22 | jpa- | ToughShooter: might want to put it into bug tracker :) |
| 19:27.31 | Tegan | so if the player is globally registered but not locally registered and authentication fails, there's no symbol at all |
| 19:27.59 | jpa- | no |
| 19:28.25 | jpa- | if the player is globally registered and not in local user database (ie. never connected there with global login) |
| 19:29.09 | jpa- | niight |
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| 19:32.26 | Dave_Mc | Hello |
| 19:33.50 | Tegan | hi Dave_Mc |
| 19:33.52 | ToughShooter | Hmm, Tupone can't reproduce but I can |
| 19:34.04 | Tupone | ToughShooter: I can reproduce |
| 19:34.18 | Tupone | I just wanted to demostrate soem thing |
| 19:34.53 | Dave_Mc | Hi Tegan, i love sourceforge! 5 mins ago i never heard of this game |
| 19:35.12 | Dave_Mc | 20 secsw to go on download |
| 19:35.46 | Tupone | how did you know about it ? |
| 19:36.22 | ToughShooter | Tupone: Oh, ok :) |
| 19:36.34 | Tegan | Dave_Mc, how did you hear about bzflag? |
| 19:36.39 | Dave_Mc | hmm first time of tinkering with linux |
| 19:36.49 | Dave_Mc | <confused> |
| 19:37.58 | Dave_Mc | Where's the setup.exe equivelent? |
| 19:38.16 | Tegan | did you download the sources? |
| 19:38.31 | Pimpinella | which linux do you use? |
| 19:38.43 | Pimpinella | wich distribution i mean |
| 19:39.03 | Dave_Mc | sorry i am on Knoppix and i got the zip file |
| 19:39.42 | Pimpinella | are you on a live system or did you make a harddrive installation of knoppix? |
| 19:39.50 | Dave_Mc | yeah live cd |
| 19:40.00 | Tupone | knoppix uses the unionfs now |
| 19:40.08 | Dave_Mc | 3.6 |
| 19:40.22 | Dave_Mc | i think 3.6 is out of date (3.6 is my version) |
| 19:40.38 | Dave_Mc | Downloadin fedora for tommorow |
| 19:40.39 | Tupone | Dave_Mc: don't use the zip file on linux |
| 19:40.55 | Dave_Mc | d'oh! okay |
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| 19:41.17 | jpa- | i'm not sure live-knoppix has required stuff for bzflag |
| 19:41.35 | jpa- | the gaming-knoppix-thingy might have 3D-drivers |
| 19:42.03 | Dave_Mc | ok |
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| 19:42.25 | Thumper_ | I think knoppix 3.9 has accelerated DRI support |
| 19:42.32 | ToughShooter | arg, I hate having the wrong app in focus |
| 19:42.55 | Pimpinella | there's a special Games-knoppix |
| 19:43.38 | Pimpinella | i wonder if this has the required stuff to run 3D games |
| 19:44.07 | Dave_Mc | tryin to find gaming knoppix |
| 19:44.17 | Pimpinella | should be at least difficult with the nvidia driver |
| 19:46.47 | Pimpinella | ~bzflist |
| 19:47.27 | Dave_Mc | Knoppix is now V4! |
| 19:47.36 | Pimpinella | yeah, 4.0.2 |
| 19:47.53 | Dave_Mc | cool |
| 19:48.11 | Thumper_ | Knoppix 3.9 Live CD has radeon dri driver built in - so I get 3D accel on my ati card |
| 19:48.14 | Dave_Mc | Must say the linux file system has me confused |
| 19:48.38 | Dave_Mc | I have ATI in big tower old 32Mb TNT2 in this machine |
| 19:48.50 | Pimpinella | wow |
| 19:49.15 | Dave_Mc | is 32MB TNT2 enough? |
| 19:49.17 | Pimpinella | not sure if the tnt2 can stand bz |
| 19:49.22 | Thumper_ | do they have LVM support yet? |
| 19:49.34 | Dave_Mc | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:49.52 | Tupone | tnt2 used to work, I don't think it work now |
| 19:52.21 | Dave_Mc | Just playing with clock |
| 19:53.10 | Dave_Mc | what's the knoppix root password? |
| 19:56.44 | Tupone | should be a root console in some place |
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| 20:27.46 | Pimpinella | ~bzflist |
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| 20:44.07 | wegstar | bzfs.lib -> bzfs.a .. a simple rename or..? |
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| 20:55.17 | Dave_MC | Hello again |
| 21:01.38 | wegstar | ... |
| 21:03.24 | wegstar | so is there a bzfs.a? |
| 21:03.52 | JeffM2501 | what OS are you on? |
| 21:04.39 | wegstar | windows.. |
| 21:04.45 | JeffM2501 | what compiler? |
| 21:04.51 | wegstar | VC++ |
| 21:04.59 | JeffM2501 | then it's a .lib |
| 21:05.01 | JeffM2501 | no .a |
| 21:05.03 | wegstar | well.. I |
| 21:05.05 | JeffM2501 | release or debug? |
| 21:05.10 | wegstar | 'm trying to port it to *nix |
| 21:05.16 | JeffM2501 | port what? |
| 21:05.19 | wegstar | plugin |
| 21:05.21 | JeffM2501 | oh |
| 21:05.30 | JeffM2501 | just copy the makefiles that another plugin uses |
| 21:05.35 | JeffM2501 | and replaces the names |
| 21:05.42 | wegstar | k |
| 21:05.44 | JeffM2501 | it'a all libtool configed and stuff |
| 21:06.39 | JeffM2501 | and add your dir to the makefile for the plugins dir, so it knows to build it |
| 21:06.51 | JeffM2501 | when it builds all the other plugins |
| 21:07.16 | wegstar | Makefile.am? |
| 21:07.20 | JeffM2501 | ja |
| 21:07.49 | wegstar | why does it have an .am? |
| 21:07.54 | JeffM2501 | automake |
| 21:08.03 | JeffM2501 | because that's not the real make file |
| 21:08.09 | wegstar | o |
| 21:08.20 | JeffM2501 | automake and autogen, and libtool take care of it all |
| 21:08.25 | JeffM2501 | that's just the input to those tools |
| 21:10.14 | wegstar | so for a makefile for an individual plugin, I just copy Makefile.am over and just rename everything inside? |
| 21:11.38 | JeffM2501 | and add it into the makefile for the plugins dir |
| 21:11.51 | trepan | wegstar: you may also want to add your dir to the AC_CONFIG_FILES listing in configure.ac |
| 21:11.53 | JeffM2501 | you can't really build plugins by themseves on linux that easy |
| 21:12.01 | JeffM2501 | yeah what he said |
| 21:12.14 | JeffM2501 | it dosn't work like linux, where you can build the plugin with just a header and a lib |
| 21:12.22 | JeffM2501 | dosn't work like windows I mean |
| 21:12.28 | wegstar | ok |
| 21:13.04 | wegstar | so I should... |
| 21:13.41 | trepan | you could setup a simple Makefile example to do just that |
| 21:14.08 | wegstar | oh |
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| 21:24.14 | Thumper_ | ok first 2.0.4 crash for me. |
| 21:24.26 | Thumper_ | top of video screen is garbled |
| 21:24.34 | Thumper_ | bzflag is using 100% cpu and X is locked up |
| 21:24.45 | Thumper_ | can't kill it :/ |
| 21:25.13 | Thumper_ | I can still ssh into my workstation |
| 21:25.20 | Thumper_ | but kill on X or bzflag doesn't make it die |
| 21:25.25 | Thumper_ | kill -9 either |
| 21:26.15 | Tupone | drivers ? |
| 21:26.31 | Thumper_ | XFree86 and ATI (no proprietary drivers) |
| 21:26.37 | Thumper_ | radeon 9000 |
| 21:27.05 | JeffM2501 | oh you are using DRI |
| 21:27.05 | Thumper_ | anything I can do that is useful before i hit the reset button? |
| 21:27.08 | Thumper_ | yes |
| 21:27.08 | JeffM2501 | DRI scks |
| 21:27.10 | Thumper_ | :) |
| 21:27.11 | JeffM2501 | sucks hard |
| 21:27.13 | Thumper_ | ok |
| 21:27.14 | JeffM2501 | get the ones from ATI |
| 21:27.18 | JeffM2501 | they don't have as many bugs |
| 21:27.31 | JeffM2501 | you on X86 or PPC? |
| 21:27.37 | Thumper_ | ok. I'll try to figure out how to do that... |
| 21:27.45 | Thumper_ | x86 |
| 21:27.55 | JeffM2501 | just go to www.ati.com and get drivers |
| 21:27.56 | JeffM2501 | that's it |
| 21:28.27 | Thumper_ | and figure out how to install it on top of my debian packaged system without killing everything :) |
| 21:28.40 | Thumper_ | ok... reset here I come. |
| 21:36.17 | meacan | Thumper_: if you use the rpm + alien, it isnt that hard. I wrote some notes on how i did it, btu i think its outdated. |
| 21:38.23 | Thumper_ | meacan: thx |
| 21:44.14 | brlcad | wegstar: the script in the plugins dir for starting a new plugin gives instructions on what has to be edited |
| 21:44.28 | wegstar | ok... |
| 21:44.41 | wegstar | It compiled on Debian... |
| 21:45.16 | wegstar | with: |
| 21:45.18 | wegstar | g++ -shared -o Relay.so Relay.cpp bzfs.lib |
| 21:46.12 | brlcad | sure, it's simple to make them -- it's more a question if you want them to be cross-platform (i.e. used/compiled by others) then you hook into the build |
| 21:46.20 | wegstar | ok |
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| 21:48.10 | wegstar | is therea /loadplugin command in bzfalg? |
| 21:48.20 | JeffM2501 | yes |
| 21:48.26 | wegstar | k |
| 21:50.57 | trepan | wegstar: try the server command /? |
| 21:51.10 | wegstar | k |
| 21:51.12 | trepan | and the client command: /cmds |
| 21:51.16 | wegstar | someone says that it doesn't work... |
| 21:54.16 | wegstar | brlcad: what do you mean... distributing Relay.so or the source for others to compile....? |
| 21:55.13 | JeffM2501 | it should |
| 21:55.40 | wegstar | Relay.so? |
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| 21:56.25 | Gnurdux | how do i tell bzfs to load a plugin? |
| 21:56.27 | wegstar | eek |
| 21:56.46 | wegstar | the option's not there? |
| 21:57.04 | Gnurdux | if it is, its not -loadplugin |
| 21:57.57 | JeffM2501 | it should be /loadplugin |
| 21:58.07 | JeffM2501 | unless somone changed it |
| 21:58.12 | wegstar | 2.0.2.2005.20050813 should have plugin stuff already.. right? |
| 21:58.20 | JeffM2501 | ohh god no |
| 21:58.29 | wegstar | Gnurdux: ;) |
| 21:58.34 | JeffM2501 | plugins are a 2.0.4 thing ONLY |
| 21:58.57 | Gnurdux | ooooooohhh |
| 21:59.03 | Gnurdux | its not in debian testing |
| 21:59.11 | JeffM2501 | no |
| 21:59.13 | JeffM2501 | no it's not |
| 21:59.18 | Gnurdux | why not? |
| 21:59.19 | JeffM2501 | Tim has yet to produce a build for it |
| 21:59.36 | JeffM2501 | he is the only person who can do it |
| 21:59.46 | Gnurdux | because? |
| 22:00.04 | JeffM2501 | because he has it set up so he's the only person who can submit it |
| 22:02.00 | wegstar | so I guess not yet... |
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| 22:06.46 | brlcad | wegstar: what do you mean, what do I mean? :) |
| 22:07.59 | wegstar | hmm |
| 22:08.20 | wegstar | what do you mean by cross-platform, the binary or source? |
| 22:08.29 | brlcad | wegstar: not all platforms use -shared to make libs, not even all platforms that use g++ |
| 22:08.29 | wegstar | or.. something else ? |
| 22:08.37 | wegstar | ok |
| 22:09.16 | brlcad | so libtool and automake is used to hook into bz's existing build for generating the logic for making a plugin in a cross-platform manner (both compilation, and binary) |
| 22:09.24 | wegstar | hmm |
| 22:09.49 | menotume | i have a related ? |
| 22:09.51 | brlcad | if it's just for you, you can make a script or a makefile that builds it for you with a 1-liner easy enough |
| 22:10.04 | wegstar | oh |
| 22:10.06 | menotume | brlcad: I'm starting a new plugin |
| 22:10.06 | brlcad | if it's for others, use the newplug.sh script |
| 22:10.12 | menotume | ohhh |
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| 22:10.35 | menotume | ahh, nvm :) |
| 22:10.52 | brlcad | basically, you just copy one of the existing plugins, renaming the stuff to your new plugin name |
| 22:11.21 | brlcad | then add a line into configure.ac and plugins/Makefile.am so that your plugin is built |
| 22:11.23 | menotume | i was missing configure.ac |
| 22:12.46 | brlcad | not really much different than adding your plugin to the bzflag win32 build, cept instead of editing text build files you point and click your way to get it going |
| 22:13.42 | wegstar | k |
| 22:17.51 | JeffM2501 | brlcad, except the win32 build dosn't do plugins by default |
| 22:17.58 | JeffM2501 | they have there own sub solutions :) |
| 22:18.59 | brlcad | why doesn't it build them? |
| 22:19.21 | brlcad | save time? |
| 22:25.23 | JeffM2501 | they are "optional" |
| 22:25.36 | JeffM2501 | and yeah basicly to save time |
| 22:25.56 | JeffM2501 | we don't even ship all possible plugins with the binarys |
| 22:26.37 | brlcad | linux is probably the only one that does |
| 22:26.53 | JeffM2501 | probably |
| 22:27.13 | JeffM2501 | tho on windows, we can build plugins solo prety easy |
| 22:27.56 | brlcad | yeah, I was thinking of reworking them that way for the nix build |
| 22:28.22 | brlcad | they can be done that way.. it's just more simple to hook into bz's build with the two 1-liner edits |
| 22:30.17 | JeffM2501 | for us, it's the same easy for each way :) |
| 22:32.48 | brlcad | it's still pretty easy, just different to the way we build subtargets now |
| 22:33.03 | trepan | brlcad: would it be a bad thing to take 'VERSION' out of config.h? |
| 22:33.17 | brlcad | and it would probably be easier for them .. I meant easier for me to have them add the two lines ;) |
| 22:33.45 | brlcad | for either, editing a fairly well-formed text file to add a line is about as easy as it gets |
| 22:34.32 | brlcad | trepan: motivation? |
| 22:34.49 | trepan | stop the recompilation madness |
| 22:36.06 | brlcad | as far as I know.. VERSION isn't used |
| 22:36.09 | trepan | common.h includes config.h and is used everywhere, config.h should not need to be updated for things that only involve version.h and buildDate.cxx |
| 22:36.15 | trepan | ya, there's that too :) |
| 22:36.47 | trepan | i'd like to dump the -DBZFLAG_BUILD_DATE too |
| 22:37.04 | trepan | stick to buildDate.cxx's compile time, as per windows |
| 22:37.09 | brlcad | we don't add VERSION.. that's one fo the default defines |
| 22:37.13 | brlcad | likes PACKAGE_NAME |
| 22:37.18 | brlcad | s/likes/like/ |
| 22:37.46 | trepan | impossible to remove it? you're more familiar with the autoconfig stuff then I |
| 22:38.04 | brlcad | oof, that I haven't tried |
| 22:38.28 | brlcad | that undoubtedly gets added during AM_CONFIG_HEADER |
| 22:38.29 | trepan | AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE(bzflag, $BZFLAG_VERSION.$CONF_DATE) ? |
| 22:38.41 | brlcad | nah |
| 22:39.09 | brlcad | still, version doesn't change that often.. only when configure actually changes the version |
| 22:39.34 | brlcad | that init line does set the version, the config header writes it out |
| 22:39.42 | trepan | #define VERSION "2.0.5.20051002" |
| 22:39.53 | trepan | guess which part might be getting updated more frequently |
| 22:40.17 | brlcad | that's still only changing as frequently as one runs configure ;) |
| 22:40.34 | brlcad | but I could see removing it, doesn't need to be in the am_init_automake |
| 22:40.39 | brlcad | conf_date, that is |
| 22:41.34 | trepan | i'd be happy enough with removing the $CONF_DATE from that line, and losing the -DBZFLAG_BUILD_DATE |
| 22:45.27 | Pimpinella | ~bzflist |
| 22:47.34 | brlcad | as long as the build date is recorded in the binary somewhere so that it can be reported at runtime, I dont' think it matters what means it makes it there |
| 22:48.37 | brlcad | there's still a question of _which_ "build time" we're recording, whether it's the first configure date, any configure date, first make date, any make date |
| 22:49.36 | trepan | and is it the same on different platforms... |
| 22:49.55 | trepan | which with the buildDate.cxx method, it is |
| 22:59.28 | brlcad | even buildDate.cxx gets the date from _somewhere_ so it could still be any of those build times |
| 23:00.20 | brlcad | which using __DATE__ is 'first make date' of those four |
| 23:01.04 | brlcad | *which is fine with me, but i'm not strongly opinionated on this particular issue at all |
| 23:01.17 | *** join/#bzflag Silent_Swan (n=silent@adsl-64-108-223-145.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net) |
| 23:02.27 | Pimpinella | can't stand the noise |
| 23:04.32 | Aribeth | Ari watches her auction end with 10 people watching and no one bidding :( |
| 23:04.43 | Silent_Swan | hmm |
| 23:04.48 | Silent_Swan | still that ultra80? |
| 23:05.10 | Aribeth | one guy even sent an email saying he was gona bid on it |
| 23:05.16 | Aribeth | powerbook |
| 23:05.23 | Silent_Swan | oh |
| 23:05.43 | Silent_Swan | what are you asking for it? |
| 23:05.48 | Aribeth | 450 |
| 23:05.55 | Silent_Swan | how old is it? |
| 23:06.06 | Aribeth | its a pismo |
| 23:06.10 | Silent_Swan | better yet, what's the link to the auction page? |
| 23:06.35 | Aribeth | wow, it says it sold |
| 23:06.40 | Silent_Swan | oh? |
| 23:06.54 | Aribeth | man talk about down to the wire |
| 23:07.14 | Pimpinella | tried to get this one http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5120334127&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1 |
| 23:07.25 | Pimpinella | but was too expensive finally |
| 23:07.49 | *** join/#bzflag RPG_ (n=G-bus@c-24-15-87-171.hsd1.il.comcast.net) |
| 23:07.56 | Silent_Swan | probably better to just build a new one |
| 23:07.58 | Silent_Swan | hi RPG_ |
| 23:08.03 | RPG_ | hi Silent_Swan |
| 23:08.20 | Aribeth | the winner gets the powerbook and all the extras |
| 23:08.24 | RPG_ | Is there a way on SF for me to recieve an e-mail every time a new feature request is added to the RFE list? |
| 23:08.49 | DTRemenak | RPG_: subscribe to bzflag-dev |
| 23:09.02 | DTRemenak | rfe and bug reports are echoed to it |
| 23:09.06 | RPG_ | ok |
| 23:09.06 | RPG_ | thank |
| 23:09.08 | RPG_ | s |
| 23:10.15 | Silent_Swan | glad to see RPG_ didn't get blown away in that storm... |
| 23:10.20 | RPG_ | heh |
| 23:10.22 | RPG_ | was pretty bad |
| 23:10.26 | Silent_Swan | yeah |
| 23:10.32 | RPG_ | stepped outside, got soaked within a second |
| 23:10.37 | Silent_Swan | trees down all over the place |
| 23:10.46 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03trepan * 10bzflag/configure.ac: remove the date from config.h's VERSION, and stop emitting -DBZ_BUILD_DATE |
| 23:10.48 | Silent_Swan | my house was shaking hah |
| 23:10.59 | RPG_ | wow |
| 23:11.03 | RPG_ | wasn't *that* bad here |
| 23:11.26 | Silent_Swan | yeah, for a few min, the wind picked up *really* strong |
| 23:14.27 | Aribeth | now i have to wait for payment |
| 23:16.05 | RPG_ | Wegstar's IRC plugin is being demoed in #masterbot |
| 23:23.14 | RPG_ | ping wegstar |
| 23:29.18 | Silent_Swan | hmm.. if i blow on Pepper's tail feathers, they make a buzzing sound... i did that and he turns around and gives me this look as if to say "What the &#$$ did you do that for???" |
| 23:29.41 | RPG_ | her |
| 23:29.42 | RPG_ | heh |
| 23:29.45 | Silent_Swan | best not do it again - i'd rather not lose my lips |
| 23:29.46 | RPG_ | my cat hates when i blow at her |
| 23:30.30 | Aribeth | lol that might be a good way to get a nose job |
| 23:30.37 | Silent_Swan | oh yeah |
| 23:30.43 | Silent_Swan | he's bitten my nose more than once |
| 23:30.54 | Aribeth | amber got my ear good once |
| 23:30.56 | Silent_Swan | once i swear i heard cartilage crunch |
| 23:31.02 | Aribeth | yep |
| 23:32.00 | Silent_Swan | senegals are rather small, aren't they? |
| 23:32.10 | Aribeth | yes |
| 23:32.12 | Silent_Swan | like conure-sized? |
| 23:32.15 | Silent_Swan | ok |
| 23:32.17 | Aribeth | yes |
| 23:32.47 | Aribeth | very skitish birds |
| 23:33.46 | Silent_Swan | i took Max the 'tiel to the vet a while back for a checkup... as soon as the doc walks into the room, he instantly perks up and goes "What? Whatcha doin?" |
| 23:34.04 | Aribeth | hehe |
| 23:34.20 | wegstar | RPG_:pong |
| 23:34.25 | RPG_ | horray |
| 23:34.31 | RPG_ | we found some bugs in yoru plugin |
| 23:34.36 | Aribeth | when i take amber to the vet she imedietly flys to my sholder |
| 23:34.38 | RPG_ | many, in facg |
| 23:34.40 | RPG_ | *fact |
| 23:34.40 | wegstar | joy :) |
| 23:34.46 | wegstar | did you get v 0.80? |
| 23:34.52 | RPG_ | uh... brad's running it |
| 23:35.02 | wegstar | ? |
| 23:35.15 | RPG_ | brad's runnign the plugin on his server, i'm jsut testing it |
| 23:35.21 | wegstar | I posted the new version around an hour ago.. |
| 23:35.33 | wegstar | anyway, there's a problem with the coloring |
| 23:35.40 | RPG_ | did you address the issue of the list server playe rjoining and leaving? |
| 23:35.46 | wegstar | yep |
| 23:35.53 | wegstar | v 0.80 |
| 23:36.05 | RPG_ | and the part where if you join as an observer, it says you're a rabbit? |
| 23:36.10 | wegstar | and also that "bzadminping" |
| 23:36.16 | wegstar | working on that now |
