irclog2html for #bzflag on 20051001

`00:00.04`	`CBG`	`lol rpg_`
`00:00.04`	`blast007`	`RPG_: that would be better, cuz you could have a proper HTML page then`
`00:00.05`	`TD-Linux`	`ooooooooooooohhhhhhhhhh ;)`
`00:00.15`	`RPG_`	`That's 30MB a day in logs`
`00:00.24`	`TD-Linux`	`here's an idea`
`00:00.48`	`TD-Linux`	`every 3 seconds, ajax js requests via php the last 10 seconds of logs`
`00:00.48`	`RPG_`	`10GB by the end of a year!`
`00:00.57`	`RPG_`	`sure`
`00:01.01`	`TD-Linux`	`it compares what it currently has with what it has recieved`
`00:01.05`	`TD-Linux`	`it adds anything new`
`00:01.07`	`RPG_`	`The plugin will be able to do all you want it to do - when it finishes`
`00:01.16`	`TD-Linux`	`so as you let it run ,your logs build up`
`00:01.24`	`RPG_`	`TD-Linux: #masterbot`
`00:01.26`	`TD-Linux`	`just like bzadmin`
`00:01.30`	`TD-Linux`	`ok`
`00:02.33`	`DTRemenak`	`JeffM2501: did you rebuild and repost to sf after you fixed the version number?`
`00:02.38`	`JeffM2501`	`I thought I did`
`00:02.38`	`menotume`	`Pimpinella: I got a new one for ya - there's a flag on top of a building at DUB:59998 :)`
`00:02.43`	`DTRemenak`	`some folks were reporting seeing a 2.0.3-STABLE around`
`00:02.43`	`JeffM2501`	`I am reevaluating now`
`00:02.45`	`JeffM2501`	`yeah I know`
`00:03.59`	`JeffM2501`	`I think I rebuilt but it didn't copy for some reason`
`00:06.33`	`JeffM2501`	`yeah it used the wrong one`
`00:06.34`	`JeffM2501`	`wierd`
`00:06.53`	`CBG`	`Garbage In, Garbage Out....? ;)`
`00:07.07`	`JeffM2501`	`the only diff is the version`
`00:07.11`	`JeffM2501`	`same code`
`00:07.26`	`JeffM2501`	`CBG, I have too many trees`
`00:07.30`	`JeffM2501`	`I need to prune some`
`00:07.53`	`CBG`	`Don't. Greenpeace will come knocking! :D`
`00:08.09`	`JeffM2501`	`source looks fine`
`00:08.12`	`JeffM2501`	`just that bin post`
`00:08.51`	`*** join/#bzflag callofhonor (n=183ddb61@webchat.bzflag.bz)`
`00:09.03`	`callofhonor`	`Where can I download version 2.0.4?`
`00:09.13`	`CBG`	`For what OS?`
`00:09.14`	`JeffM2501`	`the win bin package will be gone for 3 min while I update`
`00:09.23`	`callofhonor`	`Windows`
`00:09.31`	`JeffM2501`	`you have to wait 3 min`
`00:09.33`	`CBG`	`Sourceforge?`
`00:09.46`	`JeffM2501`	`CBG, no, I just removed it`
`00:09.52`	`CBG`	`Ahha, ok ;)`
`00:09.59`	`JeffM2501`	`2:07 left`
`00:10.03`	`callofhonor`	`tick tock`
`00:10.07`	`JeffM2501`	`but yes when it's done on SF`
`00:10.15`	`JeffM2501`	`same as all main releases`
`00:10.20`	`callofhonor`	`thank you`
`00:10.49`	`JeffM2501`	`actualy the old one got sent to mirrors`
`00:10.54`	`JeffM2501`	`so you can get it now`
`00:10.57`	`callofhonor`	`ty`
`00:11.02`	`JeffM2501`	`it'll just say 2.0.3 stable not 2.0.4 stable`
`00:11.19`	`callofhonor`	`i am banned from 2.0.4? Yes....?`
`00:11.30`	`JeffM2501`	`we don't do per version bans`
`00:11.38`	`JeffM2501`	`so the same rules are in effect`
`00:11.39`	`callofhonor`	`am i going to be?`
`00:11.43`	`JeffM2501`	`same as 2.0 to 2.0.2`
`00:11.47`	`CBG`	`No mac version yet? :(`
`00:11.56`	`JeffM2501`	`CBG, that is up to learner`
`00:12.02`	`callofhonor`	`so i am, hmm great....`
`00:12.12`	`JeffM2501`	`callofhonor, nothing changes in regards to bans with each version`
`00:12.21`	`JeffM2501`	`so what was in effect yesterday is in effect today`
`00:12.33`	`JeffM2501`	`brlcad, build it`
`00:12.36`	`JeffM2501`	`it's done`
`00:12.53`	`CBG`	`callofhonour: I have seen people get unbanned when they apologise and seem genuinely sorry for what they did....`
`00:13.17`	`CBG`	`callofhonor*`
`00:13.21`	`callofhonor`	`i haven't had time yet`
`00:13.31`	`CBG`	`to apologise?`
`00:13.33`	`brlcad`	`i noticed (just got home)`
`00:13.35`	`callofhonor`	`yes`
`00:13.47`	`callofhonor`	`i'm doing my honoweork`
`00:13.55`	`callofhonor`	`homework*`
`00:13.56`	`brlcad`	`hmm.. i got no bot mail`
`00:14.04`	`JeffM2501`	`hmm wierd`
`00:14.06`	`CBG`	`you have time to ask if you are unbanned and Ive seen you do it before.`
`00:14.11`	`JeffM2501`	`botmail is busted IIRC`
`00:14.17`	`CBG`	`Perhaps you could stop asking and start apologising...`
`00:14.21`	`JeffM2501`	`windows bin is updated, may take time to mirror tho`
`00:14.23`	`callofhonor`	`when i had time, mind you`
`00:14.38`	`JeffM2501`	`CBG, he knows what to do`
`00:14.40`	`JeffM2501`	`he just won't do it`
`00:14.47`	`callofhonor`	`-_-`
`00:14.49`	`CBG`	`you have time to talk to me now... i'll shut up now so you can spend time doing something... else....`
`00:15.03`	`callofhonor`	`confused`
`00:15.05`	`CBG`	`JeffM2501: then he wont get unbanned. It seems so simple to me.`
`00:15.08`	`JeffM2501`	`and he thinks if he keep making funny faces, and asking it will "magicaly" go undone`
`00:15.16`	`JeffM2501`	`CBG, it is simple`
`00:15.28`	`CBG`	`Good. I thought I was going mad :)`
`00:16.00`	`callofhonor`	`'you have time to talk to me now..." what are you one of the server admins?`
`00:16.27`	`RPG_`	`even better: they're masterbanlist admins!`
`00:16.29`	`CBG`	`I don't see the relevance...`
`00:16.38`	`callofhonor`	`oh`
`00:17.00`	`CBG`	`but, you keep asking to be unbanned, so I assume you would like to be unbanned.`
`00:17.01`	`callofhonor`	`so comforting.`
`00:17.07`	`CBG`	`Am I right so far, callofhonor?`
`00:17.10`	`callofhonor`	`yes,`
`00:17.11`	`JeffM2501`	`the world isn't here to comfort you`
`00:17.18`	`callofhonor`	`i know that`
`00:17.23`	`CBG`	`Ok, so the way to get unbanned is this:`
`00:17.28`	`RPG_`	`what did you get banned for in the firs rtplace?`
`00:17.30`	`CBG`	`1. apoloise`
`00:17.35`	`CBG`	`1. apologise ;)`
`00:17.49`	`CBG`	`2. try to make up for everything you did wrong`
`00:17.53`	`JeffM2501`	`step 1 dosn't realy count if you have to be told to do it.`
`00:17.54`	`callofhonor`	`i got banned for reason, bed`
`00:17.57`	`callofhonor`	`cya`
`00:18.03`	`CBG`	`3. BE (no acting allowed) genuinly sorry for what you did.`
`00:18.19`	`CBG`	`ok.... I tried.`
`00:18.21`	`Silent_Swan`	`nothing like getting toasted at work... burp`
`00:18.25`	`CBG`	`its up to him now...`
`00:18.31`	`RPG_`	`toasted? burp?`
`00:18.33`	`JeffM2501`	`he's gone`
`00:18.37`	`CBG`	`Hmm... Silent_Swan not so silent.`
`00:18.39`	`RPG_`	`it was pretty cold today, SS`
`00:18.45`	`Silent_Swan`	`nooo`
`00:18.46`	`DTRemenak`	`CBG: probably not a swan either :)`
`00:18.46`	`RPG_`	`step outside :P`
`00:18.49`	`Silent_Swan`	`it was pretty nice today, RPG_`
`00:18.50`	`JeffM2501`	`cheers lassy`
`00:18.52`	`CBG`	`JeffM2501: I noticed. good luck to him......`
`00:18.52`	`Silent_Swan`	`yesterday was chilly`
`00:18.56`	`RPG_`	`mennh`
`00:18.58`	`Silent_Swan`	`hi JeffM2501 :)`
`00:19.03`	`JeffM2501`	`CBG, he'll never learn`
`00:19.04`	`RPG_`	`like trying to dodge ice riding to school in the morning`
`00:19.09`	`JeffM2501`	`he'll change IPs before he learns`
`00:19.14`	`TD-Linux`	`Silent_Swan: How's your sacrificial altar going?`
`00:19.16`	`JeffM2501`	`how is it going Silent_Swan?`
`00:19.17`	`Silent_Swan`	`no, i'm not really a swan... you're right`
`00:19.21`	`Silent_Swan`	`i'm a goose with greying feathers :(`
`00:19.22`	`JeffM2501`	`did you get your chardonay?`
`00:19.24`	`CBG`	`DTRemenak: hang on... i cant think of the word....`
`00:19.25`	`Silent_Swan`	`no`
`00:19.35`	`Silent_Swan`	`it's going... and going and going`
`00:19.42`	`JeffM2501`	`your not greying,`
`00:19.46`	`JeffM2501`	`your still young`
`00:19.48`	`Silent_Swan`	`oh yes i am`
`00:19.51`	`Silent_Swan`	`quite a lot actually`
`00:20.05`	`Silent_Swan`	`hah`
`00:20.13`	`JeffM2501`	`some people do genticly gray young`
`00:20.18`	`JeffM2501`	`and I know your not old`
`00:20.20`	`DTRemenak`	`geese taste better anyway`
`00:20.24`	`brlcad`	`JeffM2501: you see Serenity?`
`00:20.27`	`Silent_Swan`	`i'm 32... too young to be this grey`
`00:20.28`	`JeffM2501`	`I did`
`00:20.36`	`JeffM2501`	`yes it is a good movie`
`00:20.41`	`RPG_`	`32 is still pretty young`
`00:20.44`	`JeffM2501`	`32 isn't old, so it must be MTV`
`00:20.45`	`CBG`	`hmm, what is the word for using a name in vain? :/`
`00:20.47`	`JeffM2501`	`I'd sue them`
`00:21.16`	`TD-Linux`	`CBG: There is none.`
`00:21.22`	`CBG`	`My mind not only wanders, sometimes it leaves completely. - like right now`
`00:21.31`	`JeffM2501`	`there can be gray in my beard`
`00:21.35`	`TD-Linux`	`so what's left that is typing?`
`00:21.44`	`JeffM2501`	`but there is also every other hair color known to man in there too`
`00:21.48`	`brlcad`	`Silent_Swan: coloring one's hair is a fun way to handle grey hair ;)`
`00:21.58`	`JeffM2501`	`purple!`
`00:21.58`	`RPG_`	`or just shave it off`
`00:22.02`	`DTRemenak`	`green!`
`00:22.10`	`JeffM2501`	`I should do the red again`
`00:22.19`	`brlcad`	`yeah, my goatee has a myriad of colors actually`
`00:22.21`	`JeffM2501`	`green dosn't look so good`
`00:22.22`	`JeffM2501`	`I know`
`00:22.25`	`TD-Linux`	`a green beard?`
`00:22.26`	`brlcad`	`heh`
`00:22.28`	`CBG`	`JeffM2501: pf... I remember a film where a mother tells her boy off for being... "____" when he shows disbelief in god or uses gods name in vain or something :(`
`00:22.37`	`RPG_`	`brlcad was involved in a tragic tye-die accident`
`00:22.42`	`JeffM2501`	`CBG, huh?`
`00:22.47`	`CBG`	`:(`
`00:22.57`	`RPG_`	`sacreligious?`
`00:23.00`	`brlcad`	`hmm.. i was thinking of finally applying the red color tonight..`
`00:23.05`	`bryjen`	`blasphemy`
`00:23.07`	`CBG`	`hmm, might be it, RPG_...`
`00:23.08`	`JeffM2501`	`god has nothing to do with the good movie :)`
`00:23.09`	`DTRemenak`	`RPG_: that's the great thing, tye-die is NEVER an accident :)`
`00:23.11`	`CBG`	`blasphemy!!!!`
`00:23.18`	`CBG`	`thats the one, cheers bryjen.`
`00:23.20`	`RPG_`	`DTRemenak: lol`
`00:23.21`	`JeffM2501`	`blasphoryou`
`00:23.28`	`JeffM2501`	`blasphorme`
`00:23.47`	`JeffM2501`	`blasphoreveryone!`
`00:23.54`	`CBG`	`so.....`
`00:24.03`	`TD-Linux`	`~dict blasphemy`
`00:24.09`	`CBG`	`DTRemenak: In responce to "CBG: probably not a swan either": Blasphemy!!`
`00:24.20`	`CBG`	`There.... only 5 mins late ;)`
`00:24.22`	`bryjen`	`I gotta' blas for ya'`
`00:24.25`	`JeffM2501`	`man does that doom movie look like it's gonna suck`
`00:24.30`	`JeffM2501`	`and suck long and hard`
`00:24.43`	`bryjen`	`JeffM2501: and that's bad?`
`00:24.48`	`JeffM2501`	`saw the preview`
`00:24.52`	`CBG`	`RPG_: On a scale of 1 to 4, what are your feelings about the colour green?`
`00:24.55`	`DTRemenak`	`CBG: if it's gonna take you half an hour to come up with a witty response, you may as well not even try :)`
`00:24.56`	`JeffM2501`	`parts of the movie are done in first person`
`00:24.58`	`RPG_`	`2.65`
`00:25.09`	`RPG_`	`a first person movie? Blasphemy!`
`00:25.15`	`CBG`	`DTRemenak: I couldnt remember the word... and it wasn't so witty anyway ;)`
`00:25.19`	`JeffM2501`	`yeah it didn't look soo good`
`00:25.25`	`CBG`	`RPG_ hehe :)`
`00:25.26`	`DTRemenak`	`CBG: wasn't half an hour yet either :)`
`00:25.43`	`CBG`	`DTRemenak: I was gonna let that one go...`
`00:25.54`	`CBG`	`JeffM2501: No man is an island, but then, no man is a potato salad, either.`
`00:26.14`	`DTRemenak`	`silent_swan is silent and a swan in the same way that pineapples are pines and apples :)`
`00:26.15`	`JeffM2501`	`oh you don't want to start me on the nonsense posts`
`00:26.18`	`JeffM2501`	`trust me`
`00:26.25`	`CBG`	`JeffM2501: Wanna bet? :)`
`00:26.30`	`CBG`	`Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana. -- Groucho Marx`
`00:26.31`	`JeffM2501`	`I'll win`
`00:26.34`	`JeffM2501`	`trust me`
`00:26.39`	`JeffM2501`	`@`
`00:26.41`	`CBG`	`Perhaps... but it would be fun... no?`
`00:26.44`	`JeffM2501`	`not here`
`00:26.47`	`JeffM2501`	`not what it's for`
`00:26.56`	`CBG`	`#KAS :)`
`00:27.01`	`JeffM2501`	`not worth the time`
`00:27.05`	`JeffM2501`	`many things to do`
`00:27.17`	`JeffM2501`	`gotta see how to hook CIA into a SVN thingy`
`00:27.25`	`JeffM2501`	`then do an A4 backup`
`00:27.41`	`CBG`	`pfff... chicken :P`
`00:27.58`	`JeffM2501`	`I am not 15`
`00:28.07`	`brlcad`	`you're not?!`
`00:28.10`	`bryjen`	`Work? On a Friday night? Now that's....`
`00:28.12`	`JeffM2501`	`sadly no`
`00:28.14`	`CBG`	`O_O`
`00:28.24`	`JeffM2501`	`it's because I took off at 2 to go see the movie`
`00:28.25`	`CBG`	`me neither, JeffM2501 :P`
`00:28.31`	`CBG`	`bryjen?`
`00:28.42`	`JeffM2501`	`sorry at 12`
`00:28.45`	`JeffM2501`	`so 4 hours lost`
`00:28.55`	`JeffM2501`	`gotta make up the work, and do IT, as well`
`00:29.03`	`CBG`	`Of course my password is the same as my pet's name. My macaw's name was Q47pY!3, but I change it every 90 days.`
`00:29.27`	`JeffM2501`	`we cleaned out 1/2 of dev and all of IT by noon to see it :)`
`00:29.59`	`JeffM2501`	`huzzah!`
`00:30.01`	`CBG`	`Swans stumble?`
`00:30.01`	`RPG_`	`i prefer walking over stumbling`
`00:30.11`	`Silent_Swan`	`well, more of a waddle/stumble`
`00:30.13`	`JeffM2501`	`if you spin them around enough`
`00:30.23`	`Silent_Swan`	`woohoO!`
`00:30.23`	`DTRemenak`	`CBG: if you don't have something relevant to say, don't bother`
`00:30.42`	`DTRemenak`	`randomness is not relevant unless you're drunk`
`00:30.42`	`JeffM2501`	`maybe he's drunk by proxy`
`00:30.52`	`JeffM2501`	`sorry`
`00:30.53`	`CBG`	`Who say's I'm not?`
`00:30.53`	`JeffM2501`	`precog`
`00:31.19`	`RPG_`	`macaw... my cat would own that thing!`
`00:31.26`	`CBG`	`Silent_Swan: What do you think?`
`00:31.28`	`DTRemenak`	`CBG: you are not drunk`
`00:31.33`	`Silent_Swan`	`RPG_ i'll send my 8 parrots after your 1 cat`
`00:31.40`	`RPG_`	`oh no!`
`00:31.42`	`Silent_Swan`	`:)`
`00:31.43`	`CBG`	`bryjen: thanks :)... not turn on the light...`
`00:31.44`	`JeffM2501`	`can any of them say "arrr" ?`
`00:31.44`	`RPG_`	`i'll put armor on it!`
`00:31.51`	`Silent_Swan`	`hah`
`00:31.52`	`CBG`	`DTRemenak: how can you be so sure?`
`00:31.53`	`JeffM2501`	`parots are no joke`
`00:31.54`	`DTRemenak`	`your spelling is too good`
`00:31.58`	`JeffM2501`	`suckers can take fingers off`
`00:32.04`	`Silent_Swan`	`not my little guys`
`00:32.12`	`JeffM2501`	`ok big parrots can :)`
`00:32.14`	`RPG_`	`my cat has this strange bond to me`
`00:32.22`	`Silent_Swan`	`my biggest one is an african grey... he could do some damage, but... he loves me :)`
`00:32.26`	`bryjen`	`good thing its not your 8 cats, or you would be old ;)`
`00:32.29`	`JeffM2501`	`RPG_, they sell solvents for most glues that cuase that`
`00:32.30`	`CBG`	`DTRemenak: I'm not drunk on alcohol.`
`00:32.38`	`DTRemenak`	`~dict drunk`
`00:32.43`	`JeffM2501`	`Silent_Swan, but does he love rpg's cat?`
`00:32.56`	`RPG_`	`haha!`
`00:33.00`	`CBG`	`DTRemenak: and what about the other 19 definitions?`
`00:33.01`	`Silent_Swan`	`he doesn't love anybody but me :)`
`00:33.05`	`Silent_Swan`	`he growls at visitors`
`00:33.09`	`DTRemenak`	`~dict 2 drunk`
`00:33.09`	`RPG_`	`my cat went after a dog`
`00:33.12`	`JeffM2501`	`sonds like a good bird`
`00:33.17`	`DTRemenak`	`~dict 3 drunk`
`00:33.24`	`Silent_Swan`	`~dict hammered`
`00:33.24`	`DTRemenak`	`~dict 17 drunk`
`00:33.25`	`bryjen`	`DTRemenak: ....`
`00:33.27`	`CBG`	`There....`
`00:33.32`	`DTRemenak`	`~dict 18 drunk`
`00:33.35`	`CBG`	`A drunken condition; a spree.`
`00:33.42`	`JeffM2501`	`mmmm spree`
`00:33.54`	`DTRemenak`	`~dict spree`
`00:34.08`	`CBG`	`Besides...... Reason to smile: Every 7 minutes of every day, someone in an Aerobics class pulls a hamstring. :D`
`00:34.28`	`RPG_`	`aerobics... who needs it!`
`00:34.55`	`CBG`	`The physiopherapists who help your pulled hamstring..?`
`00:34.55`	`DTRemenak`	`CBG: we all have the internet. we can look up unfunny quotes if we want, there's no reason for you to paste them here`
`00:35.11`	`CBG`	`DTRemenak: My happiness doesnt count? :P`
`00:35.14`	`RPG_`	`i hope everyone here has teh interne`
`00:35.32`	`DTRemenak`	`CBG: if it's just for your happiness then you wouldn't have a problem with me silencing you, would you? :)`
`00:35.32`	`CBG`	`RPG_ the what what?`
`00:36.01`	`CBG`	`DTRemenak: If a tree falls in the woods where nobody is around, does it make a sound?`
`00:36.10`	`bryjen`	`brlcad: like to buy a verb? ;)`
`00:36.12`	`*** mode/#bzflag [+o DTRemenak] by ChanServ`
`00:36.13`	`CBG`	`That has to apply to me being silenced in _sone_ way...`
`00:36.17`	`JeffM2501`	`bybe`
`00:36.18`	`Silent_Swan`	`thanks brlcad`
`00:36.19`	`CBG`	`*some`
`00:36.26`	`Silent_Swan`	`and you as well`
`00:37.40`	`CBG`	`Am I silenced?`
`00:37.47`	`RPG_`	`I suppose if you wre`
`00:37.51`	`DTRemenak`	`not yet`
`00:37.54`	`RPG_`	`, he wouldn't answer`
`00:37.59`	`CBG`	`:)`
`00:38.57`	`JeffM2501`	`CBG, don't push it ok`
`00:39.05`	`CBG`	`I stopped, haven't I?`
`00:39.16`	`JeffM2501`	`I'm just letting you know`
`00:39.17`	`CBG`	`hmm, should be a have in there....^ :)`
`00:39.19`	`JeffM2501`	`that' sall`
`00:39.20`	`DTRemenak`	`you better have`
`00:39.25`	`CBG`	`I do know... :D I am. :)`
`00:39.51`	`JeffM2501`	`fork fork fork, all day long, fork fork fork I sing this song`
`00:39.59`	`CBG`	`O.o`
`00:40.00`	`bryjen`	`spooooon!`
`00:40.06`	`JeffM2501`	`now if I just know where i put the thing`
`00:40.18`	`RPG_`	`i saw a thing earlier`
`00:40.19`	`CBG`	`Argh,I see you've played knifey sppony before.`
`00:40.21`	`bryjen`	`right of the plate`
`00:41.16`	`JeffM2501`	`naw, just on the desktop`
`00:41.20`	`JeffM2501`	`under it's supid name :)`
`00:44.18`	`CBG`	`Anyone who is bored: #witty`
`00:44.33`	`Silent_Swan`	`i generally hang out in #halfwitty`
`00:44.41`	`DTRemenak`	`hahaha`
`00:44.43`	`RPG_`	`lol`
`00:45.07`	`CBG`	`Come back, DTRemenak!`
`00:45.59`	`DTRemenak`	`I think not`
`00:48.34`	`CBG`	`and after I went to such great lengths to set up a channel too... :P`
`00:50.33`	`*** part/#bzflag RPG_ (n=G-bus@c-24-15-87-171.hsd1.il.comcast.net)`
`00:51.30`	`CBG`	`That could be due to the rounding up to 0.5k, where k = wit`
`00:51.45`	`DTRemenak`	`wits are not round`
`00:51.54`	`JeffM2501`	`well feed ones can be`
`00:51.58`	`CBG`	`Depends how you treat them.`
`00:52.05`	`DTRemenak`	`do you feed your wit, JeffM2501?`
`00:52.09`	`bryjen`	`missing some small pieces? milliwits?`
`00:52.12`	`CBG`	`No, I do. :D`
`00:52.15`	`JeffM2501`	`only when it behaves`
`00:52.18`	`CBG`	`bryjen: nanowits?`
`00:52.20`	`JeffM2501`	`and uses the sandbox`
`00:52.31`	`DTRemenak`	`my wit always misbehaves at the most inopportune times`
`00:52.40`	`CBG`	`femtowits?`
`00:53.10`	`Silent_Swan`	`DTRemenak sigh i seem to have the same problem :(`
`00:53.15`	`bryjen`	`CBG: your wits are so small as to not be visible by the unaided eye`
`00:53.25`	`CBG`	`bryjen... and...?`
`00:53.30`	`DTRemenak`	`bryjen: who's the last person whose wits you actually saw?`
`00:53.37`	`DTRemenak`	`I keep mine modestly covered up`
`00:53.40`	`CBG`	`Silent_Swan: but your wit is so pretty...`
`00:54.02`	`bryjen`	`DTRemenak: I'm married`
`00:54.06`	`Silent_Swan`	`perhaps i too should keep mine covered up. best not flaunt what i don't have,eh? :)`
`00:54.46`	`DTRemenak`	`bryjen: that doesn't explain why you were trying to see CBG's wits`
`00:54.59`	`JeffM2501`	`shake it like you just don't care`
`00:55.01`	`CBG`	`O.o`
`00:55.16`	`CBG`	`JeffM2501: is that S-club 7? :/`
`00:55.37`	`JeffM2501`	`I don't think your old enough for that kinda stuff`
`00:55.51`	`bryjen`	`who's trying?`
`00:56.08`	`JeffM2501`	`it's a bit cold out side....... just so you know....`
`00:56.13`	`CBG`	`S Club 7 - of course I am......`
`00:56.19`	`DTRemenak`	`!weather 91126`
`00:56.20`	`Silent_Swan`	`:)`
`00:56.23`	`TheLastSpartan`	`DTRemenak: The current temperature in Pasadena, California (91126) is 80�F.`
`00:56.32`	`Silent_Swan`	`ooh that's heavenly`
`00:56.42`	`JeffM2501`	`yeah it's not to bad today`
`00:56.47`	`JeffM2501`	`he didn't get heat from the fire`
`00:56.52`	`uso`	`is there an option to switch off the darkning of the radar in 2.0.4 while a menu is active?`
`00:56.55`	`DTRemenak`	`nor smoke :)`
`00:56.55`	`JeffM2501`	`!weather 93021`
`00:56.56`	`CBG`	`JeffM2501: I have some S-club CD's here, which I was old enough to buy, myself, with pocket money....`
`00:57.00`	`TheLastSpartan`	`JeffM2501: The current temperature in Moorpark, California (93021) is 82�F.`
`00:57.01`	`JeffM2501`	`DTRemenak, lucky bastage`
`00:57.06`	`JeffM2501`	`it's clearing up tho`
`00:57.40`	`JeffM2501`	`could use a bit of rain now, but don't think we'll get one`
`00:57.50`	`JeffM2501`	`smells like bbq outsdie`
`00:57.54`	`Silent_Swan`	`rain to put out the fire`
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`00:58.06`	`CBG`	`mmmm, bbq... :)`
`00:58.09`	`JeffM2501`	`naw, VCFD can do that, just to get rid of the smell`
`00:58.20`	`JeffM2501`	`sadly we've had lots of experience fighting them`
`00:58.41`	`DTRemenak`	`sadly they keep building stuff in areas prone to massive fires`
`00:58.48`	`Silent_Swan`	`remind me not to move to southern cal.`
`00:58.50`	`JeffM2501`	`just those malabu people`
`00:58.53`	`DTRemenak`	`it's like building in new orleans :)`
`00:58.55`	`Silent_Swan`	`even though i almost got a job there`
`00:59.01`	`JeffM2501`	`Silent_Swan, just dont't move to malabu`
`00:59.05`	`JeffM2501`	`Silent_Swan, where at?`
`00:59.11`	`Silent_Swan`	`thousand oaks`
`00:59.14`	`JeffM2501`	`LOL`
`00:59.16`	`DTRemenak`	`JeffM2501: the drivers suck everywhere though :)`
`00:59.19`	`Silent_Swan`	`valueclick`
`00:59.45`	`JeffM2501`	`DTRemenak, out there in your "city" sure`
`00:59.50`	`JeffM2501`	`we have that nice rural stuff :)`
`00:59.51`	`Silent_Swan`	`it was either that or minnesota... no thanks`
`00:59.55`	`DTRemenak`	`JeffM2501: whole freaking LA basin`
`01:00.00`	`JeffM2501`	`like I say`
`01:00.01`	`DTRemenak`	`JeffM2501: you are so not rural :)`
`01:00.03`	`JeffM2501`	`your "city"`
`01:00.16`	`JeffM2501`	`dude I live next to a wilderness preserve`
`01:00.22`	`JeffM2501`	`how is that not rural?`
`01:00.27`	`JeffM2501`	`we have freaking trees :)`
`01:00.29`	`Silent_Swan`	`now THAT would be nice`
`01:00.33`	`JeffM2501`	`it is`
`01:00.36`	`DTRemenak`	`I grew up almost an hour from the nearest US highway`
`01:00.38`	`Silent_Swan`	`<- nature freak`
`01:00.40`	`JeffM2501`	`one side of the yard goes right to it`
`01:00.48`	`Silent_Swan`	`oh i envy you`
`01:00.54`	`JeffM2501`	`DTRemenak, and you arn't there now are you :)`
`01:00.56`	`Silent_Swan`	`can i live in your cupboards?`
`01:01.04`	`JeffM2501`	`we have an extra room`
`01:01.05`	`DTRemenak`	`JeffM2501: dude dialup sucks :)`
`01:01.06`	`Silent_Swan`	`i'm small and quiet`
`01:01.08`	`JeffM2501`	`2 of them`
`01:01.16`	`JeffM2501`	`DTRemenak, this is true`
`01:01.20`	`DTRemenak`	`but I still reserve the right to call you "not rural" :)`
`01:01.28`	`JeffM2501`	`we are on fast track for FIOS next to the wilderness perserve :)`
`01:01.35`	`JeffM2501`	`trees and 30 megs down :)`
`01:01.39`	`DTRemenak`	`hell, you can get broadband, so you're not rural :)`
`01:01.52`	`JeffM2501`	`DSL was made for rural areas initaly`
`01:02.08`	`JeffM2501`	`we are more rural then you are, but yes, it'sn not like up north`
`01:02.11`	`JeffM2501`	`VC is nice`
`01:02.17`	`JeffM2501`	`not as nasty as LAC`
`01:02.23`	`DTRemenak`	`DSL is only available in areas with satisfactory "population densities"`
`01:02.29`	`JeffM2501`	`now it is`
`01:02.40`	`DTRemenak`	`on the order of 3 people per acre last time I looked`
`01:02.51`	`JeffM2501`	`it was developed for people who were too far away for good dialup, but then they found they don't pay much :)`
`01:03.08`	`DTRemenak`	`they have to put in too many boxes for people that far out`
`01:03.20`	`JeffM2501`	`your right off the 210 right?`
`01:03.23`	`DTRemenak`	`right now, yeah`
`01:03.30`	`JeffM2501`	`yeah, I would not live there`
`01:03.35`	`DTRemenak`	`bout 0.8 mi south of the 210`
`01:03.41`	`JeffM2501`	`if anything out by clairmonit is nicer`
`01:03.47`	`JeffM2501`	`but still a bit flat for me`
`01:03.56`	`DTRemenak`	`I wouldn't live here either, but hey... :)`
`01:03.58`	`CBG`	`I'll go in 3mins 22 secs.`
`01:04.32`	`JeffM2501`	`you do have more entertainment options tho`
`01:04.47`	`DTRemenak`	`JeffM2501: and yet I never leave my room ;)`
`01:05.10`	`DTRemenak`	`damn straight`
`01:05.14`	`JeffM2501`	`jedi power`
`01:05.22`	`DTRemenak`	`all the way`
`01:05.31`	`JeffM2501`	`that lobster was really good`
`01:05.38`	`JeffM2501`	`tho SB has it better`
`01:06.14`	`JeffM2501`	`so anyone know if CIA can work just on an e-mail?`
`01:07.17`	`CBG`	`3:22 is up.`
`01:07.23`	`CBG`	`Bye all!`
`01:07.44`	`bryjen`	`DSL is so the didn't have to rewire all the way to everybodies house. new tech is only rolled out to where it'll pay. that means enough people nearby to pay for the muxes`
`01:08.10`	`JeffM2501`	`I'll drop DSL in a heartbeat once FIOS is in`
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`01:08.33`	`JeffM2501`	`still 3 meg down 768 up isn't bad for $20 a month`
`01:08.44`	`Silent_Swan`	`about the same i get...`
`01:08.49`	`Silent_Swan`	`not enough to run bzfs :(`
`01:08.54`	`JeffM2501`	`sadly not`
`01:09.02`	`Silent_Swan`	`though it did surprisingly well`
`01:09.04`	`JeffM2501`	`I wish I could have stayed with SBC tho`
`01:09.12`	`Silent_Swan`	`oh god`
`01:09.13`	`Silent_Swan`	`i HATE sbc`
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`01:09.19`	`Silent_Swan`	`i've had so much trouble with them`
`01:09.24`	`JeffM2501`	`I have verizon`
`01:09.26`	`bryjen`	`i read something about 20Mbps DSL2 starting to be rolled out somewhere in europe`
`01:09.32`	`JeffM2501`	`had no probs with SBC out here`
`01:09.58`	`uso`	`is there an option to switch off the additional darkening of the radar in 2.0.4 while a menu is active?`
`01:10.09`	`JeffM2501`	`http://www22.verizon.com/FiOSforhome/channels/FiOS/root/package.aspx`
`01:10.10`	`uso`	`in germany, 25Mbps afaik`
`01:10.35`	`JeffM2501`	`tho verizon did give me a cool modem`
`01:10.38`	`JeffM2501`	`it's also a router`
`01:10.38`	`uso`	`available in the big cities`
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`01:23.01`	`*** mode/#bzflag [+v Tupone] by ChanServ`
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`01:33.11`	`Silent_Swan`	`mmm... beer`
`01:33.28`	`JeffM2501`	`mmmm stone IPA`
`01:33.28`	`Aribeth`	`chocolate`
`01:33.38`	`Silent_Swan`	`hi Aribeth`
`01:33.41`	`Aribeth`	`hi`
`01:34.00`	`JeffM2501`	`brlcad, ABA makes a beer I can drink now ;)`
`01:34.23`	`Aribeth`	`i like sam adams beer`
`01:34.27`	`Silent_Swan`	`ew`
`01:34.47`	`JeffM2501`	`Pete's Wicked Ale- strabery blonde...`
`01:34.50`	`JeffM2501`	`that's a good beer`
`01:34.51`	`Grumbler`	`well, i ran out of beer.....had to settle for chocolate milk instead......somehow not the same`
`01:35.19`	`Aribeth`	`no, not the same at all`
`01:35.53`	`Grumbler`	`german only export their crap beer :)`
`01:36.07`	`Grumbler`	`i suppose i could hit the wine cellar`
`01:36.20`	`Silent_Swan`	`i dunno.. i'm from germany and it's the same stuff :)`
`01:36.47`	`Grumbler`	`you have no taste buds left then.....we have converted you :)`
`01:36.53`	`Silent_Swan`	`ugh no`
`01:36.54`	`Silent_Swan`	`no way`
`01:37.41`	`Grumbler`	`come on, you watch a little tv and that ICE cold miller lite begins to look good......thrist quenching even...........`
`01:37.59`	`Grumbler`	`ok, you are german`
`01:38.01`	`Silent_Swan`	`haha`
`01:38.11`	`Silent_Swan`	`turned it off 5 years ago and never looked back`
`01:38.28`	`Silent_Swan`	`i swear i could FEEL my brain cells deteriorating when close to a television`
`01:39.20`	`Mr_Molez`	`so you decided to to just let your monitor to that instead`
`01:39.25`	`Silent_Swan`	`yep`
`01:39.38`	`Mr_Molez`	`:P`
`01:39.41`	`Silent_Swan`	`but at least... my internet usage is interactive.... i don't do things passively :)`
`01:39.48`	`Grumbler`	`....well instead of brain cells, its taste buds`
`01:39.53`	`Silent_Swan`	`hah`
`01:40.21`	`Grumbler`	`hefeweisen out of a bottle is just not right`
`01:40.30`	`Silent_Swan`	`agreed`
`01:40.48`	`Silent_Swan`	`have to soften it with something`
`01:40.49`	`Grumbler`	`i need ice for whisky`
`01:41.01`	`Silent_Swan`	`<- girl drinks`
`01:41.09`	`Aribeth`	`coke and whisky with ice`
`01:41.30`	`Silent_Swan`	`don't think i could even do that`
`01:41.32`	`Grumbler`	`aribeth.....you do coke?!! :P`
`01:41.36`	`Silent_Swan`	`unless there's a lot of coke`
`01:41.38`	`Aribeth`	`hehe`
`01:41.49`	`Aribeth`	`coke cola :P`
`01:42.41`	`Aribeth`	`i also like black russians. good drink`
`01:42.49`	`Silent_Swan`	`last time i went to a club, i put away 3 vodka+cranberry, and like maybe 4 mudslides... maybe more... lost count`
`01:42.51`	`Silent_Swan`	`oh those are good`
`01:43.21`	`Silent_Swan`	`then there was something else i had that someone bought me... of courrse i'd forget about that one :(`
`01:43.22`	`Aribeth`	`very good`
`01:43.37`	`Aribeth`	`heh`
`01:43.50`	`Silent_Swan`	`nope... nothin`
`01:44.20`	`Silent_Swan`	`but let me tell you... there's nothing like wandering around downtown chicago at 5am with people you don't know looking for a cab`
`01:44.39`	`Silent_Swan`	`i lost a pair of shoes in the cab haha`
`01:44.49`	`Aribeth`	`heh`
`01:44.54`	`Grumbler`	`dont worry, they wont mess with a german.....you'll kick their butt`
`01:45.03`	`Silent_Swan`	`lil' innocent me? nahhh`
`01:45.27`	`Grumbler`	`yeah, my mom is german........i know the truth.......`
`01:45.33`	`Silent_Swan`	`i just remember getting out of the cab, heading toward the train station and suddenly realising my shoes were gone`
`01:45.47`	`Silent_Swan`	`Grumbler :) you should meet my grandmother... good lord`
`01:45.52`	`Silent_Swan`	`fierce`
`01:46.17`	`Grumbler`	`something in the water over there.....`
`01:46.23`	`Silent_Swan`	`no, in the beer`
`01:48.42`	`Grumbler`	`heh`
`01:51.14`	`Aribeth`	`strong beer`
`01:52.09`	`Silent_Swan`	`vxstat -i 5 -c 5 -g datadg`
`01:52.16`	`Silent_Swan`	`gr`
`01:52.17`	`Silent_Swan`	`grr`
`01:52.32`	`Silent_Swan`	`that was smooth`
`01:53.14`	`Silent_Swan`	`there is a reason alcohol in the workplace is frowned upon`
`01:54.08`	`Grumbler`	`never stopped george bush`
`01:54.38`	`Silent_Swan`	`ok, given that comparison, perhaps 'tis time i re-evaluate my life..`
`01:54.56`	`CIA-3`	`BZFlag: 03lan56 * 10bzflag/Dev-C++/ (bzadmin-pdcurses.dev bzadmin.dev bzflag.dev bzfs.dev): updates, it is now fully up to date`
`01:55.25`	`Silent_Swan`	`afk - need to go break something really important`
`01:56.53`	`Grumbler`	`vindictive activity in the workplace is a sure way to get oneself fired...........however, if they find you monday morning drunk and speaking gibberish, they may give you a vacation`
`01:58.10`	`Silent_Swan`	`nothing vindictive anyway... just have a few extras to do`
`01:58.16`	`Grumbler`	`you get paid during vacations`
`01:58.23`	`Silent_Swan`	`afk again`
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`02:03.55`	`Silent_Swan`	`trippy`
`02:04.20`	`Grumbler`	`look out there is someone behind you....`
`02:04.24`	`Silent_Swan`	`eek`
`02:04.45`	`Silent_Swan`	`the yellow/red ones mean i get to stay EVEN LATER`
`02:04.54`	`Silent_Swan`	`on a friday night`
`02:05.12`	`Grumbler`	`well, just plug those`
`02:05.18`	`Grumbler`	`err, unplug`
`02:05.20`	`Silent_Swan`	`haha`
`02:05.33`	`Grumbler`	`problem solved`
`02:05.35`	`Silent_Swan`	`oh believe me, if they fired me, they'd be doing me a favour`
`02:05.44`	`Silent_Swan`	`i did better on unemployment, i swear`
`02:06.02`	`wegstar`	`...`
`02:06.04`	`Silent_Swan`	`i wanted to go downtown tonight...`
`02:06.10`	`Silent_Swan`	`but no`
`02:06.12`	`Grumbler`	`yeah, you cant quit and get unemployment....bit of a catch there`
`02:06.12`	`Silent_Swan`	`i'm at work`
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`02:06.58`	`a_monkey`	`lol`
`02:07.01`	`uso`	`if anyone needs an argument for an acceleration limit look at the gu server how snick is jittering around with the agility flag ;)`
`02:07.29`	`a_monkey`	`what do i do if the client freezes in fullscreen mode`
`02:07.33`	`Grumbler`	`dont worry that stud you were going to dance with had a raging case of .....well.....one of those fleshy puss things`
`02:07.43`	`Silent_Swan`	`omg`
`02:07.45`	`Silent_Swan`	`ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww`
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`02:08.06`	`a_monkey`	`i can tell the whole system doesn't freeze`
`02:08.13`	`Grumbler`	`what os`
`02:08.15`	`Silent_Swan`	`things wouldn't go down quite that way anyhow`
`02:08.22`	`a_monkey`	`if i have xmms playing in the background, it still works`
`02:08.31`	`a_monkey`	`but the client is the only thing that freezes`
`02:08.34`	`a_monkey`	`Grumbler: linux`
`02:08.41`	`trepan`	`ctrl-alt-backspce`
`02:08.49`	`a_monkey`	`i tried`
`02:08.53`	`a_monkey`	`it no workie`
`02:09.06`	`trepan`	`or ctrl-alt-f1 if you're console savvy`
`02:09.10`	`Grumbler`	`can you ssh in from antoher machine`
`02:09.10`	`trepan`	`depends on your setup`
`02:09.18`	`a_monkey`	`i tried that too`
`02:09.36`	`a_monkey`	`for some reason bzflag must be preventing input from the keyboard`
`02:09.37`	`a_monkey`	`or something`
`02:09.50`	`bryjen`	`time for the Big Red Switch then :/`
`02:09.55`	`Grumbler`	`so ssh in from the machine you are using and kill the process`
`02:09.56`	`a_monkey`	`i know`
`02:10.04`	`a_monkey`	`oooo`
`02:10.05`	`a_monkey`	`good idea`
`02:11.59`	`Silent_Swan`	`i've had that happen on the mac a few times :(`
`02:12.10`	`Silent_Swan`	`killing it has no effect.. takes out the whole keyboard, mouse, display`
`02:12.42`	`Silent_Swan`	`hasn't happened in a while, though... found out a major cause of those problems was a faulty video card`
`02:15.38`	`Silent_Swan`	`ok... filesystem created... restore in progress`
`02:15.40`	`Silent_Swan`	`whee`
`02:16.02`	`SportChick`	`Congrats on the release, guys & gals`
`02:16.10`	`Silent_Swan`	`yes! cheers!`
`02:16.24`	`Silent_Swan`	`hint - if MTI ever tries to sell you a SAN solution, run away screaming`
`02:17.20`	`Silent_Swan`	`shattered is dead right now haha`
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`02:19.11`	`Silent_Swan`	`#hug-bunny? :)`
`02:19.14`	`Silent_Swan`	`awwwwwww`
`02:23.43`	`lan56`	`ahh it feels good to once again be playing bzflag`
`02:24.11`	`lan56`	`I've been so busy the past month or month and a half, quite a relief to see bzflag is still around :)`
`02:24.23`	`Grumbler`	`just wait....you'll get disgusted with something`
`02:24.28`	`Silent_Swan`	`oh i don't think it's going anywhere`
`02:24.45`	`Silent_Swan`	`i got disgusted with "Wings"...`
`02:24.56`	`Grumbler`	`wings is disgusting`
`02:25.00`	`Silent_Swan`	`almost stopped me from playing 'til i found a few servers that didn't have it`
`02:25.07`	`Silent_Swan`	`and started shattered`
`02:25.23`	`Silent_Swan`	`and there will NEVER be wings on shattered`
`02:25.32`	`Grumbler`	`heh`
`02:27.39`	`wegstar`	`lan56: ;)`
`02:31.10`	`lan56`	`hey wegstar`
`02:31.30`	`Silent_Swan`	`hmm..`
`02:32.03`	`Silent_Swan`	`there are some places on IRC where you'd think certain people with extreme right-wing political leanings would NOT be found... but... i was wrong...`
`02:32.06`	`Silent_Swan`	`so i'll hide here for a bit`
`02:32.33`	`lan56`	`I am strongly against abortion... :) jk`
`02:32.39`	`Silent_Swan`	`well, so am i :)`
`02:32.40`	`Silent_Swan`	`but`
`02:32.46`	`Silent_Swan`	`eh.. /me shuts up`
`02:32.58`	`Aribeth`	`great work on the release everyone`
`02:33.17`	`Silent_Swan`	`just built the mac and solaris versions`
`02:33.39`	`Aribeth`	`linux version up and running here`
`02:34.09`	`Aribeth`	`heh`
`02:34.09`	`Grumbler`	`or upper beak.....but really, they are a little harsh are the whole rabbit feeding issue`
`02:34.42`	`Silent_Swan`	`feel sorry for my poor birds... they won't even see me today`
`02:34.51`	`Aribeth`	`awww`
`02:35.02`	`Aribeth`	`that can be hard on parrots`
`02:35.06`	`Silent_Swan`	`yes it can`
`02:35.57`	`Silent_Swan`	`i try not to wake them too much at night... Max bites me when i do, and Pepper will try to sleep on my shoulder`
`02:35.57`	`Silent_Swan`	`and will NOT let go`
`02:36.35`	`trepan`	`guess the righties finally got her`
`02:36.52`	`Grumbler`	`heh`
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`02:36.59`	`Silent_Swan`	`grrrr`
`02:37.03`	`Silent_Swan`	`...sbc`
`02:37.11`	`Grumbler`	`looks like one of those green lights went red`
`02:37.18`	`Silent_Swan`	`fortunately, not one of mine :)`
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`02:39.58`	`Silent_Swan`	`well... i can always go downtown tomorrow night... and waste another $100 or so for nothing`
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`02:42.39`	`lan56`	`actually the frame rate has decreased for me from 19-22 fps to 13-15 fps on the same map`
`02:42.41`	`mozul`	`Hello All. I just installed BZ 2.0.4 and played at secretplace for a while. I had burrow flag and was turning and all of a sudden, I got the mouse cursor on screen and bz no longer responded. I had to Ctrl-Alt-Del to get the process killed.`
`02:44.21`	`lan56`	`does this happen everytime you do the same action?`
`02:44.49`	`mozul`	`doubtfull`
`02:45.04`	`Grumbler`	`were you by a side wall`
`02:45.06`	`mozul`	`i had burrow several times and it didnt happen then.`
`02:45.17`	`blast007`	`hmm...I had mine lock up too, but I figured it was just a fluke considering I haven't rebooted that system in several weeks`
`02:45.25`	`blast007`	`wasn't from burrow though`
`02:45.40`	`mozul`	`dont think so. I was trying to turn to get away from a chaser. I could have been by a building or block or something.`
`02:45.49`	`lan56`	`I was thinking it was just a simple freeze that is a one time only thing, too`
`02:45.50`	`blast007`	`was on a server with a fast reload on laser, and I was basically making a light slow with it ;)`
`02:46.08`	`blast007`	`show*`
`02:46.14`	`lan56`	`lol`
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`02:47.12`	`blast007`	`I had lockup issues with various 2.0.3 builds too`
`02:49.07`	`blast007`	`just on rare occasions, and never reproducable`
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`06:56.17`	`*** topic/#bzflag is http://BZFlag.org/ \|\| http://my.BZFlag.org/bb/ \|\| http://my.BZFlag.org/ \|\| http://cia.navi.cx/stats/project/BZFlag \|\| http://BZFlag.org/wiki/GettingHelp \|\| http://BZFlag.org/wiki/Download \|\| #bzchat if you just want to chat \|\| paste errors to http://bzflag.pastebin.ca \|\| BZFlag 2.0.4 Released!`
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`07:00.51`	`uso`	`what does the sf bugtracker needs to be enabled in the browser (besides cookies)?`
`07:03.14`	`JeffM2501`	`umm noting`
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`07:04.30`	`uso`	`it must need sth others, submitting bugs does not work`
`07:04.43`	`JeffM2501`	`it's just a web page`
`07:05.36`	`uso`	`they are all webpages ;)`
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`07:05.48`	`uso`	`but it's not only html ...`
`07:06.01`	`JeffM2501`	`I don't think it uses java at all`
`07:06.10`	`JeffM2501`	`it's all php on the back end, and that sends your browser HTML`
`07:06.13`	`JeffM2501`	`look at the soruce and see`
`07:07.50`	`uso`	`i cannot login in the bugtracker, this does not work`
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`07:08.28`	`uso`	`if i login at the homepage and go to bzflag and the bugtracker after that it seems to work`
`07:08.38`	`JeffM2501`	`umm ok`
`07:08.40`	`JeffM2501`	`tell SF`
`07:09.07`	`uso`	`what category is for gameplay problems?`
`07:09.29`	`brad2901`	`Still doesn't work.=(`
`07:09.57`	`JeffM2501`	`we can recat it if needed`
`07:10.01`	`JeffM2501`	`what problem are you having?`
`07:10.09`	`JeffM2501`	`brad2901, then you have find what you broke`
`07:10.53`	`brad2901`	`ok`
`07:12.22`	`uso`	`do you mean me jeff?`
`07:12.30`	`JeffM2501`	`yes`
`07:12.48`	`uso`	`i already wrote it, tank gets stuck on top of a teleporter`
`07:12.57`	`JeffM2501`	`ahh`
`07:13.02`	`JeffM2501`	`only to you?`
`07:13.06`	`JeffM2501`	`or to anyone?`
`07:13.19`	`uso`	`at least the windows version seems to work`
`07:13.28`	`JeffM2501`	`why would it not?`
`07:14.02`	`uso`	`don't know if it works for other linux users`
`07:14.32`	`JeffM2501`	`yet if it works for you on windows, that makes it sound like it's not a problem in the game code`
`07:14.38`	`JeffM2501`	`since they share the game code`
`07:15.27`	`uso`	`so where is the problem then?`
`07:15.35`	`JeffM2501`	`dono`
`07:15.46`	`JeffM2501`	`did you build it on linux yourself?`
`07:16.11`	`uso`	`there are different compilers, if the source is wrong it may work with one compiler but not with an other`
`07:16.27`	`uso`	`yes, there are no packages so far`
`07:16.32`	`JeffM2501`	`usualy compilers don't make that big of a change`
`07:16.37`	`JeffM2501`	`you current on all libs and stuff`
`07:16.51`	`uso`	`debian stable`
`07:17.04`	`JeffM2501`	`that dosn't mean anything :)`
`07:17.14`	`JeffM2501`	`well report it, with all the possible steps to dupe it`
`07:17.22`	`uso`	`don't know which libs have to be how current`
`07:17.23`	`JeffM2501`	`best would be to include he map and settings`
`07:17.39`	`JeffM2501`	`if you take it local, with the sp map and setings does it dupe?`
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`07:18.04`	`JeffM2501`	`is it all teleporters?`
`07:18.05`	`JeffM2501`	`some`
`07:18.07`	`JeffM2501`	`narrow ones?`
`07:18.10`	`JeffM2501`	`tall ones?`
`07:18.54`	`uso`	`it's on the gamesunited public and matchserver`
`07:19.19`	`uso`	`narrow ones? are there fat teleporters?`
`07:19.24`	`JeffM2501`	`don't asume a developer knows eactly what you are talking about`
`07:19.31`	`JeffM2501`	`the map can define the TP sizes`
`07:19.47`	`uso`	`he can login at the gu server and try it`
`07:19.47`	`brad2901`	`JeffM2501: Deleting the config fixed it, thanks for the help.`
`07:20.02`	`Tegan`	`Giza's teles seem okay... maybe it's all the sand`
`07:20.06`	`JeffM2501`	`brad2901, bad configs can screw up much`
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`07:20.18`	`JeffM2501`	`you guys should save the map`
`07:20.21`	`JeffM2501`	`and test localy`
`07:20.23`	`JeffM2501`	`if it dupes`
`07:20.26`	`JeffM2501`	`then include the map`
`07:20.37`	`uso`	`i'll try it locally`
`07:20.38`	`JeffM2501`	`best woudl be a map with just the bad teleporter`
`07:22.33`	`uso`	`there are only 4 teleporters or better said only one with symmetry on all axis`
`07:22.44`	`uso`	`*all 4 axis`
`07:23.06`	`uso`	`look at the map and you see it ;)`
`07:23.07`	`JeffM2501`	`the easyer we can dupe it`
`07:23.14`	`JeffM2501`	`the faster it gets fixed`
`07:23.32`	`JeffM2501`	`seeing it on a live server won't do jack`
`07:23.37`	`JeffM2501`	`need to see it in a debuger`
`07:23.42`	`JeffM2501`	`to see why it gets stuck :)`
`07:23.44`	`uso`	`what is easier as to login to this server, jump at the teleporter and test it?`
`07:23.51`	`JeffM2501`	`1) servers change`
`07:24.03`	`uso`	`no`
`07:24.07`	`JeffM2501`	`2) the conditions of the net connect may change`
`07:24.13`	`JeffM2501`	`3) we may not know what TP your talking about`
`07:24.19`	`JeffM2501`	`allways report ALL the info`
`07:24.27`	`Tegan`	`Or put up a sign: Keep Offa the Teles!`
`07:24.28`	`JeffM2501`	`and 4) I may not be the one to fix it`
`07:24.40`	`JeffM2501`	`I guess you guys don't want it fixed`
`07:24.41`	`JeffM2501`	`oh well`
`07:24.56`	`uso`	`hehe tegan, i need them to pass flag ;)`
`07:28.08`	`jpa-`	`sgk284!!`
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`08:36.20`	`Tegan`	`hi Birdie`
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`11:06.46`	`ToughShooter`	`I would like to post my build of 2.0.4 (standard CFLAGs and build with 10.3.9 SDK) as long there is no official Mac version. Is this a good idea?`
`11:08.12`	`Tupone`	`are you allowed too?`
`11:08.32`	`Tupone`	`I meant permissions set for SF?`
`11:08.45`	`ToughShooter`	`I meant in forums`
`11:09.04`	`ToughShooter`	`no deps on SDL-installation, either`
`11:09.44`	`Tupone`	`where do you want to upload the package ? your own space or m.b.o ?`
`11:10.24`	`ToughShooter`	`http://my.bzflag.org/bb/ and remove it from post when something official is out`
`11:11.31`	`Tupone`	`eek, you want to put, I don't know, 20 Mbyte, in the forum, inside the database ?`
`11:12.06`	`ToughShooter`	`It's 11.4MB`
`11:12.22`	`Tupone`	`we used to upload in a real directory, and put in bzbb just the url`
`11:13.15`	`ToughShooter`	`Hmm, I think it would be a bad idea to use my own projects space at sourceforge for this :/`
`11:14.28`	`ToughShooter`	`I suppose it was a bad idea anyway`
`11:14.42`	`Tupone`	`But I don't think you were able to remove after that. I means SF rules does not allow removal unless you do something specifical agains SF :)`
`11:15.14`	`ToughShooter`	`You can remove stuff in the htdocs dir`
`11:15.48`	`ToughShooter`	`but it's against what I've agreed to`
`11:16.15`	`Tupone`	`no other space in some place ?`
`11:16.47`	`ToughShooter`	`Hmm, silvercat but I don't know whether meno would be happy with this`
`11:17.34`	`Tupone`	`however I think Sean will manage shortly ... I mean a few days. And In case not, he could allow uploading at my.bzflag.org/builds`
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`11:56.56`	`callofhnor`	`!weather 03801`
`11:57.03`	`TheLastSpartan`	`callofhnor: The current temperature in Portsmouth, New Hampshire (03801) is 43�F.`
`11:57.11`	`callofhnor`	`:/`
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`12:03.26`	`CBG`	`Will people listen to what I have to say after I donate $5 to the project...?`
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`12:04.36`	`jpa-`	`CBG: i will if you donate it to me`
`12:05.05`	`CBG`	`jpa- too late. it's gone`
`12:05.10`	`Birdie`	`you can do it again`
`12:05.18`	`CBG`	`Im not made of money :)`
`12:05.23`	`CBG`	`hi birdie. ;)`
`12:05.29`	`jpa-`	`are you made of cuteness then?`
`12:05.41`	`CBG`	`partially :)`
`12:13.47`	`CBG`	`2.0.4 still not on mac? :( pf`
`12:15.25`	`Birdie`	`http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?t=5412`
`12:15.30`	`Birdie`	`if some one has time, delete the spam?`
`12:16.31`	`jpa-`	`CBG: ToughShooter has something for mac :)`
`12:17.58`	`CBG`	`jpa- toughshooter is less lazy`
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`12:25.58`	`jpa-`	`CBG: yeah but you could get it from him`
`12:26.07`	`jpa-`	`14:06:46 < ToughShooter> I would like to post my build of 2.0.4 (standard CFLAGs and build with 10.3.9 SDK) as long there is no`
`12:26.10`	`jpa-`	`<PROTECTED>`
`12:27.34`	`CBG`	`jpa- hmm... easier to just click the link on sf.net`
`12:27.54`	`CBG`	`when it is there`
`12:27.58`	`jpa-`	`:)`
`12:28.04`	`jpa-`	`but you'll have to wait`
`12:28.12`	`jpa-`	`\o/`
`12:28.17`	`CBG`	`:P`
`12:28.22`	`jpa-`	`you don't!`
`12:31.02`	`CBG`	`:(`
`12:31.37`	`CBG`	`TV is broke too pffff`
`12:32.01`	`jpa-`	`you can always come here..`
`12:33.32`	`CBG`	`:/`
`12:50.17`	`Birdie`	`hmm the hunt sounds are the opposites now`
`12:50.40`	`Birdie`	`if you press "u" now you get the sound that normally confirms the hunt you took`
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`14:37.30`	`TreadBaron`	`hi any devs around?`
`14:37.55`	`jpa-`	`they'll read the logs :)`
`14:38.16`	`TreadBaron`	`k i have found a bug dunno whats causing it`
`14:39.21`	`TreadBaron`	`when i start bz using 2.0.4 there is a white dotted line just to the right of my mouse window`
`14:39.56`	`TreadBaron`	`it goes all the way from top to bottom of my screen`
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`14:40.16`	`blast007`	`what video card, driver version, OS, etc?`
`14:40.59`	`blast007`	`and if you could do a screenshot, that would be excellent`
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`14:41.39`	`TreadBaron`	`send it to whom?`
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`14:45.50`	`treadbaron2`	`nsry back again my other connection crapped out`
`14:46.07`	`treadbaron2`	`nso whom do i send the screen capture to?`
`14:46.44`	`jpa-`	`upload it somewhere or make a bug report on sf.net/projects/bzflag and attach it`
`14:47.24`	`treadbaron2`	`somewhere?`
`14:47.37`	`brad2901`	`imageshack.us =)`
`14:48.19`	`treadbaron2`	`seriously brad u know where i can upload it?`
`14:48.29`	`brad2901`	`I just told you.....`
`14:48.39`	`brad2901`	`http://imageshack.us !`
`14:48.48`	`treadbaron2`	`i thought the smiley meant sarcasm`
`14:48.58`	`brad2901`	`nah`
`14:49.11`	`treadbaron2`	`and do the devs look there?`
`14:49.25`	`jpa-`	`if you paste your link on this channel :D`
`14:49.49`	`treadbaron2`	`k brb`
`14:52.31`	`treadbaron2`	`<PROTECTED>`
`14:52.38`	`treadbaron2`	`http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/941/bzflaglinebugw2043sx.jpg`
`14:52.59`	`treadbaron2`	`nwould someone check to see if u can see it?`
`14:53.13`	`Tupone`	`how many shot ?`
`14:53.26`	`treadbaron2`	`just a screen shot`
`14:53.32`	`learner`	`nice`
`14:53.55`	`treadbaron2`	`jpa can u see it?`
`14:53.56`	`learner`	`TreadBaron, how many shots does the server allow?`
`14:54.00`	`Tupone`	`I meant how many shot in that server?`
`14:54.11`	`treadbaron2`	`my map allows 200`
`14:54.17`	`learner`	`that's why :)`
`14:54.30`	`treadbaron2`	`ah what has that got to do w it?`
`14:54.48`	`treadbaron2`	`and someone else has already tried it w no line`
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`14:54.57`	`brad2901`	`eek`
`14:55.00`	`brad2901`	`oops`
`14:55.40`	`Pimpinella`	`has anyone experiences with the propriatary ATI drivers for Linux?`
`14:55.40`	`treadbaron2`	`brad did u see it?`
`14:55.41`	`brad2901`	`treadbaron2: yes`
`14:55.41`	`Chestal`	`Pimpinella: I am using them with Debian + x.org`
`14:55.41`	`treadbaron2`	`nand any ideas?`
`14:55.55`	`brad2901`	`no :)`
`14:55.59`	`Pimpinella`	`Chestal: any problems with it?`
`14:56.24`	`Chestal`	`treadbaron: go to options / GUI, at the bottom, switch off the reload timer`
`14:56.30`	`learner`	`TreadBaron, if you make the shot count 5, how many boxes do you see? if you make the shot count 20, how many boxes do you see?`
`14:57.06`	`Chestal`	`Pimpinella: screenshot from within bzflag used to kill/freeze my X, haven't dared to try it lately`
`14:57.17`	`Chestal`	`Pimpinella: also, I think DGA does not work`
`14:57.39`	`Pimpinella`	`ic, ty`
`14:57.56`	`treadbaron2`	`will check brb`
`14:58.36`	`Chestal`	`after togglign window mode in bz, the font rendering looks a bit funny, a tleast the big fonts. And I cannot compare to free ATI driver because I never really used it`
`14:59.20`	`treadbaron2`	`i cant change the shot count only the set properties, its dtr's server`
`14:59.52`	`treadbaron2`	`anything i can test there?`
`15:00.19`	`Pimpinella`	`no choice for me anyway, the card i'm probably going to to buy isn't supported by it`
`15:01.01`	`learner`	`treadbaron2, you said it was your map.. :P so no, nothing you can do about it besides turning off the reload timer`
`15:01.20`	`treadbaron2`	`it is my map but his server`
`15:01.44`	`treadbaron2`	`i am admin but dont have access to the ftp ...yet`
`15:02.11`	`treadbaron2`	`k will have to wait then`
`15:02.25`	`treadbaron2`	`brb`
`15:03.08`	`learner`	`the boxes should probably scale an order of magnitude after 10`
`15:04.11`	`learner`	`maybe something like 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 20 30 40 50 100 150 200 250 500 750 1000`
`15:04.50`	`learner`	`or just cap it at 100 and make that last box 100+`
`15:05.12`	`uso`	`Pimpinella: fast but shaky like hell for me, never have crashed my box that often, not even with tho old bloody ftape driver ;)`
`15:05.52`	`Pimpinella`	`ooooooooh, i remember that ftape driver.......`
`15:06.14`	`uso`	`but i used them with debian and xfree, maybe they are better with xorg`
`15:06.18`	`treadbaron2`	`sry learner i dont understand what u are referring to`
`15:07.04`	`treadbaron2`	`are u suggesting a way of fixing the prob or simply explaining why it happens or neither?`
`15:07.26`	`blast007`	`treadbaron2: he's saying that at higher counts, the reload meters should give a general idea of the reload, to prevent 200 boxes from showing :)`
`15:07.57`	`treadbaron2`	`oh its a feature???`
`15:08.04`	`uso`	`is there a need for a reload meter at 200 shots at all? :)`
`15:08.16`	`Chestal`	`there is no need for the reload meter anyway:-)`
`15:08.20`	`treadbaron2`	`nno can i turn it off?`
`15:08.22`	`uso`	`switch it off and the boxes are gone`
`15:08.29`	`treadbaron2`	`ah cool brb`
`15:08.41`	`Chestal`	`treadbaron: you must hav emissed what I wrote 15 minutes ago, it#s in the GUI options menu at the bottom`
`15:08.49`	`Pimpinella`	`i like the reload meter`
`15:09.01`	`Pimpinella`	`helps me much on 3 shot servers`
`15:09.29`	`Pimpinella`	`i have no "feeling" for 3 shot`
`15:09.30`	`learner`	`treadbaron2, a way of avoiding the problem`
`15:09.44`	`treadbaron2`	`ah ok that was it`
`15:09.59`	`uso`	`like "Ready 2" or so`
`15:10.04`	`treadbaron2`	`ya no need for reload meters at 200 shots`
`15:10.18`	`uso`	`but did not managed to get it there :(`
`15:10.32`	`treadbaron2`	`cool will set this in my server msg`
`15:11.03`	`treadbaron2`	`i thought it was my vid cad, am i relieved`
`15:11.09`	`treadbaron2`	`card`
`15:11.19`	`treadbaron2`	`k thanx all`
`15:11.20`	`blast007`	`:)`
`15:14.59`	`uso`	`treadbaron2: are this position coordinates in the top right corner of your snapshot? how do i turn it on?`
`15:15.55`	`treadbaron2`	`u need to edit a file in the bzsetup but i forget how`
`15:16.12`	`treadbaron2`	`someone here will remember im sure`
`15:17.04`	`treadbaron2`	`k im off, cyall later and thanx`
`15:18.32`	`blast007`	`uso: add this to your config: set showCoordinates 1`
`15:18.41`	`blast007`	`or do /localset showCoordinates 1`
`15:18.56`	`blast007`	`I think 2.0.4 does localset now`
`15:20.05`	`uso`	`thanks blast007`
`15:21.38`	`uso`	`i assume there is no list of such "hidden" settings other than the sources :)`
`15:22.07`	`blast007`	`probably not ;)`
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`15:33.16`	`IcyG`	`hy`
`15:34.09`	`IcyG`	`may somebody tell me, why bzflags crushes? I'm Using FreeBSD and V2.0.2`
`15:34.12`	`uso`	`learner: it could be capped at 10 shots or so, the more shots you have the less important the reload time is`
`15:34.26`	`learner`	`tupone: just in case you see someone with a bug report about building c-ares on 10.2 .. they have to use CPPFLAGS="-D_ARPA_NAMESER_COMPAT_"`
`15:34.49`	`IcyG`	`it closes it self suddenly`
`15:34.52`	`learner`	`uso: anything's possible ;)`
`15:34.56`	`blast007`	`IcyG: you might try building 2.0.4 that was just released yesterday`
`15:35.40`	`IcyG`	`it's not in the FreeBSD Ports yet... But v2.0.2 should run also, shouldn't it? I search the changelog...`
`15:36.27`	`uso`	`i don't need a cap as i seldom play on servers with more than 5 shots ;)`
`15:36.31`	`blast007`	`yeah, it should work fine`
`15:36.47`	`learner`	`IcyG, there was a fix in there related to crashing (nameserver issues) after 2.0.2`
`15:36.51`	`IcyG`	`there is no error, it just crashes`
`15:36.57`	`blast007`	`learner: ah`
`15:37.04`	`learner`	`many months ago`
`15:37.26`	`learner`	`if should just be a simple library linking issue`
`15:37.29`	`IcyG`	`where can i get the fix?`
`15:37.34`	`learner`	`if you built from ports, you can cd to the work dir`
`15:37.47`	`learner`	`and link without one of the libs it's adding`
`15:38.09`	`learner`	`IcyG, you can download 2.0.4 from sf.net/projects/bzflag`
`15:39.09`	`learner`	`source download`
`15:39.33`	`IcyG`	`<PROTECTED>`
`15:40.24`	`learner`	`what do you mean?`
`15:40.40`	`IcyG`	`I use BSD, not Linux`
`15:40.42`	`learner`	`you did use the bsd port`
`15:40.47`	`learner`	`you're not paying attention :)`
`15:41.02`	`IcyG`	`it's just my bad english ;-)`
`15:41.06`	`Pimpinella`	`source distribution is OS independent`
`15:41.15`	`learner`	`IcyG, what version is in ports?`
`15:41.28`	`IcyG`	`2.0.2`
`15:41.58`	`learner`	`so.. 2.0.2 doesn't work (obviously) given the crashes you're seeing -- those are related to a bad library you have installed`
`15:42.33`	`learner`	`you have to either 1) patch 2.0.2 to avoid the bad library (hopefully) or 2) download and install 2.0.4 from source or 3) wait for 2.0.4 to get uploaded into ports`
`15:42.45`	`IcyG`	`i'm upgrading all librarys bzflag depends on...`
`15:43.37`	`learner`	`IcyG, do an ldd /usr/local/bin/bzflag`
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`15:45.53`	`Pimpinella`	`~pastebin`
`15:45.55`	`ibot`	`hmm... pastebin is a place to paste your stuff without flooding the channel - try http://pastebin.ca/`
`15:46.06`	`learner`	`IcyG, for future reference, if something you are going to paste is more than 5 lines.. try using pastebin instead`
`15:46.35`	`learner`	`i don't see the bad lib actually.. so it just might be curl`
`15:49.47`	`IcyG`	`as i said, i updated all librarys and it seems, that now everything works fine. thanks for the halp!`
`15:49.53`	`IcyG`	`help`
`15:50.47`	`Pimpinella`	`~learner++`
`15:56.47`	`JeffM2501`	`lof of them arn't there?`
`15:57.07`	`learner`	`probably`
`15:59.54`	`learner`	`anyone have a nice screenshot for the 2.0.4 mac disk image?`
`16:00.08`	`learner`	`something purdy`
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`16:04.44`	`*** part/#bzflag JeffM2501 (n=jeffm@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/JeffM2501)`
`16:05.26`	`learner`	`yay, it builds`
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`16:21.07`	`CIA-3`	`BZFlag: 03chestal * 10bzflag/ChangeLog: go away 's!`
`16:21.59`	`Chestal`	`wherever those 's came from in the first place`
`16:22.29`	`Tupone`	`I think nobody has changed version to 2.0.5 so, I pray nobody to make software changes :) Changelog is ok`
`16:23.10`	`Tupone`	`s/nobody/anybody(`
`16:24.33`	`Tupone`	`well, I meant do not commit code :)`
`16:37.56`	`uso`	`wow, you can self kill at the border of the field now, shooting in the air ;)`
`16:38.48`	`uso`	`maybe it's a mismatch of 2.0.2 server and 2.0.4 client`
`16:39.48`	`uso`	`like the bug with the self shot in tele`
`16:48.15`	`blast007`	`I think bullets may stop at the edge of the world now`
`16:53.52`	`uso`	`yes, the stop and kill you if you are nearby ;)`
`16:54.02`	`uso`	`*they`
`16:54.27`	`uso`	`same as in teleporter`
`16:54.54`	`*** join/#bzflag SportChick (n=SportChi@ca-redbch-cuda1-c3b-a-40.stmnca.adelphia.net)`
`16:55.06`	`Aribeth`	`hi SportChick`
`16:55.19`	`SportChick`	`Aribeth: hi`
`16:55.29`	`Aribeth`	`sleepycows is back :)`
`16:55.53`	`SportChick`	`Aribeth: REALLY?! Cool! Which maps?`
`16:56.03`	`Aribeth`	`Giza for now`
`16:56.11`	`SportChick`	`no ToI?`
`16:56.14`	`SportChick`	`:(`
`16:56.19`	`Aribeth`	`not yet`
`16:56.29`	`Tupone`	`hi Aribeth, hi SportChick`
`16:56.43`	`Aribeth`	`just started it up this morning at 4 am EDT`
`16:56.50`	`Aribeth`	`hi Tupone`
`16:57.19`	`SportChick`	`Tupone: buon giorno`
`16:57.30`	`SportChick`	`Aribeth: I'm glad`
`16:57.35`	`Birdie`	`ciao bellas sportchick and aribeth`
`16:57.36`	`Aribeth`	`:)`
`16:57.41`	`Aribeth`	`cya`
`16:57.45`	`SportChick`	`ciao birdie`
`16:57.49`	`Aribeth`	`or hi there`
`16:57.58`	`Birdie`	`so so you want me to leave allready?:)`
`16:58.05`	`Birdie`	`you dont have powers to kick me for the moment:)`
`16:58.26`	`SportChick`	`Birdie: dove state andando?`
`16:58.29`	`Aribeth`	`no i dont want you to leave`
`16:58.53`	`*** mode/#bzflag [+o Aribeth] by ChanServ`
`16:58.57`	`Birdie`	`sportchick: i'm sadly enough no italian and only know few basic words`
`16:59.02`	`*** mode/#bzflag [+o SportChick] by ChanServ`
`16:59.04`	`Aribeth`	`hohohoho`
`16:59.07`	`Birdie`	`boooo`
`16:59.13`	`Birdie`	`only learner could do this..`
`16:59.19`	`SportChick`	`who`
`16:59.23`	`SportChick`	`woah`
`16:59.29`	`learner`	`what? who?`
`16:59.35`	`Aribeth`	`:)`
`16:59.35`	`Tupone`	`:) learner`
`16:59.45`	`Aribeth`	`hi learner :)`
`17:00.05`	`Aribeth`	`hummm..........`
`17:00.09`	`Aribeth`	`:P`
`17:00.22`	`*** mode/#bzflag [-o SportChick] by learner`
`17:00.32`	`*** mode/#bzflag [-o Aribeth] by learner`
`17:00.34`	`learner`	`:)`
`17:00.38`	`Aribeth`	`:)`
`17:01.00`	`Birdie`	`sportchick: cause i know aribeth wants to kick me normally:)`
`17:01.09`	`Aribeth`	`ciao can mean hello or goodbye`
`17:01.22`	`Aribeth`	`noooooo i dont`
`17:01.56`	`Birdie`	`hmm`
`17:01.57`	`Tupone`	`ciao means hi, if at the beginning of conversation, you can say ciao when you leave too`
`17:02.02`	`Birdie`	`i wonder why i dont believe you aribeth:)`
`17:02.14`	`Birdie`	`bello = poor man and bella = poor woman`
`17:02.15`	`Birdie`	`right?`
`17:02.16`	`Aribeth`	`you shiuld`
`17:02.30`	`Aribeth`	`beleive me`
`17:02.40`	`learner`	`it only 'just' means goodbye in the us-english adoption of the word, afaik`
`17:03.06`	`learner`	`~good morning Aribeth`
`17:03.07`	`Aribeth`	`learner, yes`
`17:03.48`	`Aribeth`	`i still seem to have a fog bank in my head though :(`
`17:03.49`	`Tupone`	`Birdie, why you don't ask ibot ?`
`17:04.07`	`Birdie`	`cause ibot never says me what i want cause i always give the wrong commands to him`
`17:04.19`	`trepan`	`Chestal: where did those 's come from? ;)`
`17:04.24`	`Tupone`	`~x it en bello`
`17:04.37`	`Birdie`	`~x it en bella`
`17:04.51`	`Aribeth`	`~goodmorning learner`
`17:04.53`	`Chestal`	`trepan: no idea. ChangeLog changed from utf8 to latin1, too, yesterday, not sure if this was by design?`
`17:04.57`	`Chestal`	`but the 's are really strange`
`17:05.24`	`learner`	`probably unicode conversions of someone's editor`
`17:06.02`	`Chestal`	`but the 's substituted normal characters like blank, 1 and t`
`17:06.19`	`Chestal`	`maybe changelog was printed and then OCR :-)`
`17:06.24`	`learner`	`heh.. tupone.. what was that preprocessor name I just pasted about ares?`
`17:06.32`	`learner`	`it's off my log already`
`17:06.51`	`SportChick`	`this is (sadly) reminiscent of our trip - we were in NZ at the time of the last one: http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/asiapcf/10/01/bali.blasts/index.html`
`17:07.03`	`trepan`	`between 2.86 and 2.87, by JeffM? strange`
`17:07.18`	`learner`	`studio editorism probably`
`17:07.48`	`trepan`	`aka: 'eff Myers`
`17:08.09`	`learner`	`Tupone, never mind.. found it`
`17:08.12`	`Tupone`	`ares ?`
`17:08.19`	`learner`	`_ARPA_NAMESER_COMPAT_`
`17:08.23`	`Tupone`	`ahh`
`17:09.24`	`learner`	`ares includes both arpa/nameser.h and arpa/nameser_compat.h which are incompatible on 10.2, you include one or the other (so that define makes it not include the _compat.h one)`
`17:09.26`	`SportChick`	`!weather 90277`
`17:09.26`	`Tupone`	`those change are already in c-ares 3.0 so, if you can require it`
`17:09.31`	`TheLastSpartan`	`SportChick: The current temperature in Redondo Beach, California (90277) is 72�F.`
`17:09.42`	`Aribeth`	`!weather 30040`
`17:09.46`	`TheLastSpartan`	`Aribeth: The current temperature in Cumming, Georgia (30040) is 75�F.`
`17:10.12`	`Tupone`	`like you require SDL and curl, you could require c-ares`
`17:10.38`	`Tupone`	`I don't know if that is a DLable package on mac`
`17:11.44`	`learner`	`i could.. but that's one more to the mix that has to be updated.. and it's only for 10.2`
`17:11.58`	`learner`	`10.3+ have more up to date versions that are suitable`
`17:12.22`	`learner`	`if I can get away with just building what we ship, it makes life (and the compile) a whole lot easier`
`17:12.24`	`Tupone`	`ok`
`17:13.46`	`learner`	`Tupone, the default curl framework build that libcurl makes did not use ares.. is that going to be a big problem?`
`17:14.02`	`learner`	`if so .. what sort? :)`
`17:14.11`	`Thumper_`	`how does one check out the 2.0.4 sources from 20050930 in anon cvs - is there a tag available or do I have to use the date (-D ...)`
`17:14.27`	`learner`	`Thumper_, there's a v2_0_4 tag`
`17:14.30`	`Thumper_`	`thx`
`17:14.43`	`learner`	`cvs status -v README will always tell you the list of tags`
`17:14.57`	`Thumper_`	`thx... was just going to do that on src/bzfs/bzfs.cxx :)`
`17:14.59`	`Tupone`	`learner, problem is that curl access could be delayed by the DNS gethostbyname`
`17:15.32`	`learner`	`so blocking dns lookups is all?`
`17:15.32`	`Tupone`	`so, not a big issue, just is like using the 2.0.2`
`17:16.24`	`Tupone`	`dns lookup are blocking and you could get big jitter, but that is all. Only when accessing list server, texture`
`17:17.07`	`Tupone`	`cached world. Normally not while playing`
`17:17.37`	`learner`	`okay`
`17:17.44`	`learner`	`makes sense`
`17:18.19`	`Tupone`	`There is also an alarm that can signal when DNS has issue. And that is a big problem, has on the 2nd alarm bzflag stop forever`
`17:18.27`	`Tupone`	`s/has/as/`
`17:18.41`	`Tupone`	`kill -9 resolv it`
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`17:29.08`	`learner`	`dang it.. why is it trying to compile bzfsPlugins.cxx with --disable-plugins`
`17:31.54`	`CBG`	`learner: will we see a mac 2.0.4 today?`
`17:32.03`	`learner`	`CBG, working on it`
`17:32.17`	`CBG`	`Oh, goodie. :) Thanks learner!`
`17:32.30`	`learner`	`find me a good screenshot for the disk image`
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`17:33.07`	`CBG`	`learner: me? care to explain more?`
`17:33.24`	`learner`	`you do know what a screenshot is, yes? :)`
`17:33.30`	`Tupone`	`learner: a _bubbles_ pic ?`
`17:33.36`	`learner`	`Tupone, heh`
`17:33.54`	`CBG`	`I do.`
`17:34.03`	`CBG`	`what would you like one of?`
`17:34.16`	`learner`	`CBG, you know when you download bz, a window pops up saying "drag this to the apps dir"`
`17:34.35`	`CBG`	`a background for the dmg folder?`
`17:34.43`	`CBG`	`(is what you want?)`
`17:34.50`	`learner`	`dmg == disk mounting image .. aka "disk image"`
`17:35.05`	`CBG`	`yeah...`
`17:35.27`	`CBG`	`so, you just want an in-game screeny for the background of the dmg/disk image folder...?`
`17:37.03`	`learner`	`that would be what I said..`
`17:37.12`	`trepan`	`something shiny`
`17:37.13`	`learner`	`something nice, flashy/purdy`
`17:37.44`	`learner`	`otherwise, aztec reigns for yet another release ;)`
`17:37.56`	`CBG`	`an action packed one?`
`17:37.58`	`trepan`	`the map that couldn't be played ;)`
`17:38.12`	`CBG`	`or something that shows off the tank model?`
`17:38.16`	`learner`	`CBG, if you have to keep asking questions, you're not helping`
`17:38.20`	`CBG`	`lol`
`17:38.23`	`learner`	`nice screenshots man`
`17:38.26`	`learner`	`it's not that complicated`
`17:38.40`	`learner`	`something that shows off new features preferably`
`17:38.56`	`CBG`	`I dont use any... so I have none with those...`
`17:39.02`	`CBG`	`but, i'll go take some now :)`
`17:39.06`	`CBG`	`be back soon!`
`17:43.00`	`trepan`	`tip: use stencil shadows for screenies`
`17:43.01`	`ToughShooter`	`CBG: I have something that is supposed to be working with 10.3 and 10.4, not depending on an installed SDL`
`17:50.58`	`CBG`	`ToughShooter: I'm on 10.3(.9)... but I can wait for Learners release.`
`17:53.16`	`Birdie`	`the more you ask, the slower he will work to annoy you`
`17:53.35`	`Birdie`	`the more typing his name, the more he is distracted from building it`
`17:53.45`	`learner`	`:)`
`17:54.14`	`learner`	`is there any particular reason the version numbers haven't been bumped?`
`17:54.29`	`trepan`	`where?`
`17:54.42`	`learner`	`in HEAD`
`17:54.44`	`trepan`	`heh, version.h?`
`17:54.58`	`learner`	`it's tagged/released, so it should have been bumped after the tagging to .5`
`17:55.13`	`trepan`	`ah`
`17:56.56`	`CBG`	`hmmm... nothing I think would suit.`
`17:57.40`	`CIA-3`	`BZFlag: 03brlcad * 10bzflag/package/win32/installer_2.0.nsi: was never updated to 2.0.4, but update to 2.0.5 since 2.0.4 is tagged regardless`
`17:57.46`	`learner`	`CBG, roam around as observer.. look for cool looking maps`
`17:58.07`	`Aribeth`	`sleepycows has a cool map :P`
`17:58.15`	`Aribeth`	`plug plug`
`17:58.31`	`ToughShooter`	`Hi Aribeth`
`17:58.37`	`Aribeth`	`hi ts`
`17:58.47`	`CIA-3`	`BZFlag: 03brlcad * 10bzflag/package/win32/nsis/SDL_BZFlag.nsi: was never updated to 2.0.4, but update to 2.0.5 since 2.0.4 is tagged regardless`
`17:59.07`	`CIA-3`	`BZFlag: 03brlcad * 10bzflag/package/win32/nsis/BZFlag.nsi: update to 2.0.5 after tagging`
`17:59.14`	`learner`	`cool maps using brand spanking new features.. emphasis on the spanking`
`17:59.22`	`learner`	`er, I mean emphasis on the new`
`17:59.57`	`Aribeth`	`lol`
`18:00.28`	`Aribeth`	`well, its not new, but it does use meshes and dl textures`
`18:01.22`	`CIA-3`	`BZFlag: 03brlcad * 10bzflag/ (README ChangeLog src/date/buildDate.cxx): update to 2.0.5 after tagging`
`18:02.11`	`Tupone`	`brlcad, if you happen to make change to build on Mac? you release will be 2.0.5 ?`
`18:02.21`	`Tupone`	`I meant to learner`
`18:02.28`	`learner`	`Tupone, no, I'm building from the tagged`
`18:02.37`	`learner`	`editing where I need to`
`18:02.57`	`Tupone`	`:( read that completely`
`18:02.58`	`learner`	`plugins have been the only edit actually, the rest are build flags`
`18:03.10`	`Tupone`	`ok :)`
`18:03.14`	`learner`	`they will be disabled`
`18:03.26`	`learner`	`10.2 doesn't have dlopen/dlclose`
`18:03.42`	`learner`	`so it'll dump out a warning if you try to load a plugin saying they aren't supported`
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`18:04.07`	`learner`	`i figure if they're writing plugins, they have the sources anyways`
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`18:05.04`	`Tupone`	`I'd remove plugin from the tree, but Jeff wanted that in the tree :-[`
`18:05.26`	`teh_conqerer`	`my system is so unstable :-/`
`18:05.30`	`teh_conqerer`	`no idea why`
`18:06.17`	`CBG`	`learner: I have been.`
`18:06.25`	`CBG`	`I think I should have some cool ones now.`
`18:06.59`	`Tupone`	`teh_conqerer, what version are you running? 2.0.4 ?`
`18:07.11`	`teh_conqerer`	`of XP?`
`18:07.28`	`Tupone`	`bzflag`
`18:07.31`	`teh_conqerer`	`of`
`18:07.34`	`teh_conqerer`	`i dont play bzflag`
`18:07.34`	`blast007`	`oh, your computer in general is unstable? or just when playing bzflag?`
`18:07.40`	`teh_conqerer`	`computer`
`18:07.42`	`teh_conqerer`	`in general`
`18:07.45`	`blast007`	`k`
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`18:09.36`	`learner`	`Tupone, heh, I don't care if it's in the tree.. i just want bzfs to build :)`
`18:10.07`	`Tupone`	`Understand ...`
`18:10.10`	`learner`	`everything in a checkout should be in the dist.. imo, otherwise it shouldn't probably be in the checkout`
`18:13.20`	`Tupone`	`Do you think is possible to release again for Xmas (2.0.6) ? There is still something to fix`
`18:13.39`	`CIA-3`	`BZFlag: 03brlcad * 10bzflag/autogen.sh: update to the latest. add support for the lack of a -f option to autoconf in 2.52, ws consistency`
`18:17.19`	`bz2155`	`A quick question for (er...) someone: What physics engine does BZFlag use? (A custom engine?)`
`18:17.43`	`Erroneous`	`the term "engine" implies some sort of organization`
`18:17.57`	`bz2155`	`Quake... ect...`
`18:18.14`	`learner`	`bz2155, it's a custom engine`
`18:18.25`	`bz2155`	`ah`
`18:18.25`	`learner`	`Erroneous, hehe`
`18:18.26`	`Erroneous`	`if you can call it that`
`18:18.30`	`bz2155`	`cool`
`18:18.49`	`learner`	`Erroneous, it's organized.. all under the 'bzflag' directory when I checkout :)`
`18:18.59`	`*** part/#bzflag bz2155 (n=183ed5c1@webchat.bzflag.bz)`
`18:19.18`	`Erroneous`	`learner: yup, all scrambled in with the graphics "engine" and the network "engine" :)`
`18:19.45`	`Tupone`	`we do some magic to let it work :)`
`18:19.49`	`SportChick`	`!weather 90277`
`18:19.52`	`TheLastSpartan`	`SportChick: The current temperature in Redondo Beach, California (90277) is 75�F.`
`18:20.50`	`learner`	`Tupone has the right idea.. we 'let it' work ;)`
`18:21.56`	`Erroneous`	`learner: :)`
`18:22.55`	`Tupone`	`there is something wrong with the sentence?`
`18:23.29`	`Tupone`	`except s/it/them/`
`18:24.07`	`trepan`	`'make it' would imply that we had control of the code`
`18:24.41`	`Tupone`	`hehe, let is more approriate, then`
`18:24.46`	`trepan`	`;)`
`18:25.38`	`*** mode/#bzflag [+o Tupone] by ChanServ`
`18:25.48`	`*** mode/#bzflag [+v Erroneous] by Tupone`
`18:25.58`	`*** mode/#bzflag [-o Tupone] by Tupone`
`18:27.38`	`CIA-3`	`BZFlag: 03brlcad * 10bzflag/src/bzfs/ (Makefile.am bzfsAPI.cxx): if plugins were disabled, don't try to build them in. output a message letting them know that they aren't available`
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`18:34.14`	`Tupone`	`hiya lan56`
`18:34.22`	`lan56`	`hi tupone, how are you?`
`18:34.43`	`Tupone`	`good.`
`18:35.10`	`Tupone`	`called by someone? I wonder how you know we have released`
`18:35.45`	`lan56`	`I read bzbb`
`18:36.12`	`Tupone`	`cause anytime you come, we are in release and need you :)`
`18:37.11`	`lan56`	`right, I apologize for that too, its these past 2 months or so that I've been busy with family issues, but I am now able to be back in the game`
`18:37.16`	`lan56`	`things are better`
`18:37.30`	`lan56`	`I know it isnt right for me to absent and I apolgize sincerly`
`18:37.52`	`CBG`	`hey man, you haven't signed a contract, right? :)`
`18:38.42`	`lan56`	`no, but I follow moral and social standards, and I enjoy working with bzflag, even though I dont do much, it is fun`
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`18:39.07`	`CBG`	`That it is. ;`
`18:39.18`	`Tupone`	`hi Tegan`
`18:39.23`	`Tegan`	`hi Topone`
`18:39.31`	`Tegan`	`arg`
`18:39.35`	`Tegan`	`hi Tupone *`
`18:39.58`	`Tupone`	`lol`
`18:40.13`	`Tupone`	`Topone -> Big Mouse (in Italy)`
`18:40.18`	`Tegan`	`oops`
`18:42.09`	`Tupone`	`I love cats, I just don't live with them`
`18:42.37`	`jpa-`	`"I don't live with them" <- of course no, they eat you ,)`
`18:44.29`	`Aribeth`	`ping learner`
`18:44.30`	`brlcad`	`hmmm...`
`18:44.40`	`brlcad`	`just kernel panic'd my box as observer..`
`18:44.58`	`Tegan`	`was that really you?`
`18:45.05`	`brlcad`	`yeah`
`18:45.11`	`ToughShooter`	`Hmm`
`18:45.17`	`CBG`	`Aribeth: l@rnr is busy... :)`
`18:45.25`	`Aribeth`	`:)`
`18:45.25`	`brlcad`	`heh`
`18:45.29`	`ToughShooter`	`no "-", and no "+" :o`
`18:45.54`	`Tegan`	`wery veird`
`18:46.16`	`ToughShooter`	`I've seen this happening with my own callsign one time when I joined silvercat around a week ago`
`18:46.28`	`brlcad`	`opengl went all out of whack, framerate hit near 0 and stayed there before crashing`
`18:46.46`	`brlcad`	`something to do with looking at the pretty stargate, I gather :)`
`18:47.08`	`brlcad`	`maybe I was in the path of the vortex`
`18:47.46`	`brlcad`	`it did seem to start when a player came through the teleporter`
`18:48.11`	`Aribeth`	`ahh`
`18:48.35`	`Aribeth`	`weird`
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`18:49.06`	`Aribeth`	`2.0.4 kinda crashed on me today too`
`18:49.18`	`Aribeth`	`i was in as observer all night`
`18:49.23`	`blast007`	`I had a lockup on Windows, as have others`
`18:49.47`	`Aribeth`	`when i went to see what was going on portions of the window were black`
`18:50.05`	`Aribeth`	`and bzflag was not responding, though i could hear sound`
`18:50.15`	`Aribeth`	`i had to kill it`
`18:50.15`	`brlcad`	`sounds liek the opengl state is getting horked`
`18:50.26`	`ToughShooter`	`Works perfect on Mac OS X except a few SDL-crashes when switching windowing mode`
`18:50.26`	`Aribeth`	`ahh`
`18:50.36`	`brlcad`	`which is one of the few things that can cause a kernel panic in 10.2`
`18:50.37`	`blast007`	`mine was infinite looping :)`
`18:50.43`	`Aribeth`	`i run it windowed`
`18:51.08`	`Aribeth`	`and i run linux`
`18:51.11`	`brlcad`	`i woulda run remote via gdb had I anticipated a panic :)`
`18:51.12`	`Aribeth`	`on a PC`
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`18:52.36`	`Tupone`	`Chikorita, ciao :)`
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`18:53.45`	`CBG`	`Tupone... you scared him off...`
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`18:54.39`	`teh_conqerer`	`ahh`
`18:54.39`	`teh_conqerer`	`dual channel is somehow brokeded`
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`18:57.26`	`CIA-3`	`BZFlag: 03trepan * 10bzflag/src/bzflag/CommandsImplementation.cxx: /localset displays with no value param`
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`19:03.12`	`Tegan`	`hi learner`
`19:03.24`	`learner`	`:)`
`19:06.46`	`*** mode/#bzflag [+o learner] by ChanServ`
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`19:29.14`	`CBG`	`We need people to go and play at bzflag.bounceme.net port 5154 for a good screenshot to use for the mac 2.0.4 disk image...`
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`19:33.01`	`bryjen`	`~bzfquery bzflag.sleepycows.us:5159`
`19:33.12`	`bryjen`	`hrmph`
`19:34.17`	`bryjen`	`do the stats pages at my.bzflag.org use the same code as ibot?`
`19:35.21`	`bryjen`	`neither seem to like 2.0.4`
`19:35.55`	`menotume`	`hmm`
`19:36.45`	`learner`	`i believe they are effectively the same code`
`19:37.02`	`learner`	`someone broke protocol.. :)`
`19:38.26`	`bryjen`	`ah 26484 decimal = 6774 hex = MsgGameTime`
`19:38.47`	`menotume`	`huh ?`
`19:39.03`	`bryjen`	`"<ibot> bad server data 26484"`
`19:39.21`	`menotume`	`ahh :)`
`19:40.20`	`Chestal`	`hmm, so GT is sent before client is a player?`
`19:40.23`	`bryjen`	`there's a bzfquery.php in misc/`
`19:40.31`	`menotume`	`ok`
`19:40.34`	`trepan`	`Chestal: yup`
`19:40.41`	`Chestal`	`trepan: does it have to?`
`19:40.49`	`trepan`	`before any map d/ls, etc...`
`19:41.56`	`Chestal`	`this seems to break all the simple query scripts`
`19:42.06`	`Chestal`	`bzfquery.py doesn't work anymore either`
`19:42.18`	`menotume`	`bzfquery doesn't seem to be used (at m.b.o)`
`19:42.30`	`trepan`	`guess they should be updated, it's been release`
`19:42.32`	`trepan`	`d`
`19:43.15`	`bryjen`	`serverinfo.php ?`
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`19:44.10`	`menotume`	`playerinfo.php just looks at the tables created by bzfls.php i think`
`19:44.31`	`menotume`	`ohh, maybe not`
`19:45.54`	`bryjen`	`serverinfo.php is just fetching from a database too. donno how the db gets its data...`
`19:46.16`	`menotume`	`yeah, a grep shows several SELECTS, but no UPDATES :)`
`19:46.24`	`Chestal`	`trepan: now that you've added a new message you are the obvious choice for the hero who brings the protocol doc up to date :-)`
`19:46.47`	`menotume`	`there is proto doc ?`
`19:46.52`	`Chestal`	`sure`
`19:47.17`	`Chestal`	`sadly, the changes in protocol for 2 sears or so haven't been reflected in it`
`19:47.26`	`menotume`	`ahh :)`
`19:47.45`	`CBG`	`thanks ToughShooter :)`
`19:49.30`	`blast007`	`the scripts probably expect data in a specific order`
`19:49.48`	`menotume`	`the question is ... which scripts ? :)`
`19:49.54`	`blast007`	`the .php one does for one`
`19:50.00`	`lan56`	`bye, bbl`
`19:50.12`	`menotume`	`which php one ?`
`19:50.13`	`blast007`	`doesn't the stats site use a perl one?`
`19:50.26`	`blast007`	`bzfquery.php expects the data in a certain order`
`19:51.44`	`menotume`	`do you know what uses bzfquery.php ?`
`19:51.47`	`menotume`	`ibot ?`
`19:52.07`	`menotume`	`it doesn't look like it's used on m.b.o. ata ll`
`19:52.13`	`menotume`	`(at all)`
`19:52.26`	`blast007`	`I don't think bzfquery.php is used by anything`
`19:52.32`	`menotume`	`ok :)`
`19:52.46`	`blast007`	`that was one I converted from bzflist.php`
`19:54.42`	`blast007`	`http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/bzflag/db/support/bzupdate.pl?view=markup`
`19:54.55`	`menotume`	`hehe, yep - just found it`
`19:55.23`	`blast007`	`:)`
`19:55.33`	`menotume`	`did s ps to see what was running`
`19:57.56`	`menotume`	`Info.pm`
`19:58.17`	`bryjen`	`http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/bzflag/db/support/BZFlag/Info.pm?view=markup`
`19:58.35`	`menotume`	`that one too :)`
`20:00.38`	`menotume`	`hmmm, is unpack() a perl function ?`
`20:02.07`	`menotume`	`at, it is`
`20:02.19`	`menotume`	`so, where is this new field ?`
`20:07.17`	`menotume`	`The MsgGameTime is being sent even if we don't request it ?`
`20:13.21`	`menotume`	`this is beyond my meek perl knowledge`
`20:13.59`	`menotume`	`it looks like we request a server version, and if it's '0026', we request server info, btut receive a MsgGameTime`
`20:17.03`	`menotume`	`eeeep, that's all we have? 0026? no monor version ?`
`20:17.15`	`menotume`	`no wonder we have to break proto so often :)`
`20:17.50`	`menotume`	`I don't think I can help - need a perl person`
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`21:00.47`	`Tegan`	`menotume what are you looking at?`
`21:02.06`	`Tegan`	`oops, guess that's old news.`
`21:02.46`	`Aribeth`	`menotume ping`
`21:03.01`	`Birdie`	`you find him on the game`
`21:03.08`	`Aribeth`	`ok`
`21:03.25`	`trepan`	`Chestal: Jeff added more Msgs then I this release ;)`
`21:03.46`	`Birdie`	`hey tegan`
`21:04.05`	`Birdie`	`gee this must be my lucky day`
`21:04.06`	`menotume`	`pong`
`21:04.16`	`BenUrban`	`*finger`
`21:04.21`	`menotume`	`Aribeth: pong`
`21:04.31`	`Aribeth`	`tegan was looking for you`
`21:04.42`	`menotume`	`ahh, okies`
`21:04.47`	`menotume`	`i think she answered herself`
`21:04.58`	`Tegan`	`still curious, but ok`
`21:05.08`	`trepan`	`and the 'Portal' ones don't count, not implemented...`
`21:06.34`	`menotume`	`Teagnapparently the stats page is broken for playerlists on 2.0.4 servers. A change needs to be made to the perl module that gets info from servers.`
`21:07.23`	`Tegan`	`where is that in bzflag?`
`21:07.33`	`Tegan`	`misc?`
`21:07.46`	`Tegan`	`no modules there`
`21:08.19`	`Tegan`	`'cept BZFlag::Info, is that the one?`
`21:08.24`	`blast007`	`yup`
`21:08.27`	`menotume`	`yes`
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`21:12.05`	`menotume`	`I'm GUESSING that aroung line 166 in Info.pm it's receive an unexpected message (MsgGameTime)`
`21:12.41`	`menotume`	`but, it won't always be there - only for 2.0.4+ servers`
`21:14.14`	`Tegan`	`oh, there's that 0x6774`
`21:15.41`	`TD-Linux`	`~logs`
`21:15.42`	`ibot`	`it has been said that logs is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23bzflag/, or stats http://ibot.rikers.org/stats/bzflag.html.gz`
`21:16.02`	`silverfox`	`oh, that's nice.`
`21:16.41`	`silverfox`	`just needs a search function.`
`21:20.34`	`Tegan`	`and it is`
`21:20.57`	`TD-Linux`	`here's a random quote from bryjen from the logs here:`
`21:21.04`	`Tegan`	`gt, actually.`
`21:21.06`	`TD-Linux`	`"naked text isn't too scary :)"`
`21:21.21`	`TD-Linux`	`-bryjen`
`21:21.32`	`TD-Linux`	`I wonder what that conversation was like........`
`21:21.47`	`TD-Linux`	`I'm #7 on the most active nicks!`
`21:22.14`	`Tegan`	`#7 is multihunt, more than coincidence?`
`21:22.23`	`CBG`	`hah`
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`21:23.44`	`Tegan`	`menotume, so it chokes on MsgGameTime and a change needs to be made. What would you rather it do?`
`21:23.56`	`TD-Linux`	`CBG brings happiness to the world. 33.6% lines containing smiling faces.`
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`21:24.21`	`CBG`	`TD-Linux: we can all read the same stuff... you dont have to tell us exactly what it all says... :)`
`21:24.58`	`TD-Linux`	`ok, fine`
`21:25.05`	`TD-Linux`	`it's funny, though :)`
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`21:25.26`	`CBG`	`Hi MrC`
`21:28.53`	`Tegan`	`welcome back learner`
`21:29.15`	`Aribeth`	`dont feed the trolls, they will only multiply :P`
`21:29.24`	`Aribeth`	`like tribbles`
`21:29.52`	`CBG`	`starve them to death!!! :)`
`21:29.53`	`learner`	`it's really unfortunate, really does hurt the reputation of the hurd and gnu even if he's just one kid with a bitter shoulder`
`21:30.05`	`TD-Linux`	`is the troll Hieronymus?`
`21:30.09`	`Aribeth`	`yep`
`21:30.30`	`TD-Linux`	`#gnu is becoming quite popular now :P`
`21:30.51`	`CBG`	`~lart ToughShooter`
`21:30.53`	`learner`	`i mean, next time my group looks to pick up the hurd for funding support, i'll have that kids stupid responses ringing in the back of my mind`
`21:31.03`	`Tegan`	`~CBG++`
`21:31.23`	`ToughShooter`	`CBG: Don't ya know that this also applies to me?`
`21:31.28`	`Aribeth`	`sad isn't it`
`21:31.51`	`ToughShooter`	`~bzfrag CBG for larting ToughShooter`
`21:31.52`	`ibot`	`ACTION blindsides CBG for larting ToughShooter with an invisible bullet`
`21:31.53`	`CBG`	`ToughShooter: I can still ~lart you :P`
`21:32.02`	`learner`	`it's like the classic 'rtfm' answers when the 'fm' is written so piss-poor or isn't readily available to be useful`
`21:32.34`	`ToughShooter`	`Tegan: Aww`
`21:32.48`	`learner`	`and here i wondered why so few were working on the hurd`
`21:32.53`	`CBG`	`Thanks Tegan baby :D`
`21:33.15`	`learner`	`the idea is great.. doesn't make sense why it can't take off`
`21:33.26`	`learner`	`cept that there are *sses in the midst`
`21:39.21`	`TD-Linux`	`~lart myself`
`21:40.07`	`Tegan`	`~lart itself`
`21:40.25`	`ToughShooter`	`http://bbspot.com/News/2003/01/os_quiz.php (I am Windows 98)`
`21:41.54`	`Tegan`	`you scared him away`
`21:42.18`	`ToughShooter`	`ibot, ToughShooter is also "Windows 98"`
`21:42.19`	`ibot`	`okay, ToughShooter`
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`21:43.33`	`ToughShooter`	`Tegan: Who? Me? No no no :p`
`21:45.55`	`TD-Linux`	`I did the quiz`
`21:46.02`	`TD-Linux`	`I'm Apple DOS 3.1`
`21:49.39`	`ToughShooter`	`Notice the nice description of GNU/HURD? ;)`
`21:52.12`	`menotume`	`Tegan, probably just throw away the MsgGameTIme`
`21:52.46`	`gsnedders`	`I'm Amiga :D`
`21:55.14`	`gsnedders`	`http://bbspot.com/News/2004/10/extension_quiz.php (I'm .*)`
`21:59.01`	`TD-Linux`	`I'm .pdf`
`21:59.10`	`menotume`	`hello .pdf`
`21:59.46`	`learner`	`Pimpinella: hehe`
`22:05.14`	`ToughShooter`	`file is working good enough to abstain from extensions`
`22:05.41`	`trepan`	`one for the devs...`
`22:05.49`	`CIA-3`	`BZFlag: 03trepan * 10bzflag/src/ (bzflag/CommandsImplementation.cxx common/StateDatabase.cxx):`
`22:05.49`	`CIA-3`	`BZFlag: - fix a segv in StateDatabase::eval`
`22:05.49`	`CIA-3`	`BZFlag: - added pattern matching for "/set", "/diff", and "/localset" listings`
`22:05.49`	`CIA-3`	`BZFlag: (except the "/localset" pattern listings are disabled without DEBUG)`
`22:06.53`	`trepan`	`ex: "/set dr" shows only the _draw vars (_ prefix is automatic)`
`22:07.21`	`learner`	`what's doing the globbing?`
`22:07.31`	`trepan`	`bzglob.h`
`22:07.36`	`learner`	`heh`
`22:07.37`	`learner`	`ok`
`22:07.49`	`ToughShooter`	`Why are more permissions needed to execute /set _wingsJumpCount ?`
`22:08.01`	`ToughShooter`	`or has that changed in 2.0.4?`
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`22:08.45`	`learner`	`trepan, could probably just get rid of all the _ and make config's or set commands that feed an underscore automatically strip for compatibility`
`22:08.57`	`learner`	`i don't think there was any particular reasoning behind the underscores`
`22:10.24`	`trepan`	`there at least one client side the has a leading '_'`
`22:10.53`	`trepan`	`wow, that phrase sucked`
`22:11.44`	`trepan`	`almost as if it weren't my native language`
`22:11.56`	`learner`	`hehe`
`22:11.57`	`ToughShooter`	`I mean, "/set _wingsJumpCount" does only print out the setting for that particular variable and you need set permissions`
`22:12.36`	`learner`	`i mean, if it was to assert _ for server vars and non-_ for client.. 'maybe' but I don't think that information is conveyed by a _`
`22:12.57`	`learner`	`if the intent is to imply a namespace of some sort, we should add optional namespace prefixes`
`22:13.05`	`trepan`	`when the next protocol breakage? easier to do it then`
`22:13.11`	`ToughShooter`	`and "/set" can be used by everyone and doesn't need set permissions but floods the message tab`
`22:14.21`	`learner`	`trepan, definitely though it could be done before then with a simple wrapper that strips the _ and/or variable lookup to find the name`
`22:14.27`	`learner`	`before hand`
`22:14.39`	`learner`	`er, yeah .. engrishand too`
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`22:18.03`	`trepan`	`learner: another issue is that the leading _ is handy for the auto-completer`
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`22:18.22`	`tea\|tree`	`hola`
`22:18.26`	`Tupone`	`learner: did you get your commit e-mails?`
`22:18.31`	`tea\|tree`	`menotume: !`
`22:18.36`	`Tegan`	`g'day tea\|tree`
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`22:27.14`	`tea\|tree`	`anywone seen meno around?`
`22:27.31`	`menotume`	`i have`
`22:27.37`	`menotume`	`he was here a minute agao`
`22:27.51`	`menotume`	`want me to look for him ?`
`22:28.23`	`learner`	`trepan, i'm not advocating removing it fully (don't think it matters much really), but removing it from display and back-end storage`
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`22:28.59`	`learner`	`tupone, i dunnno.. i'm in the wrong OS to get to my mail`
`22:29.33`	`Tupone`	`:( I don't remember to have seen any`
`22:30.26`	`tea\|tree`	`menotume:`
`22:30.31`	`tea\|tree`	`can u please reply @ qry?`
`22:30.43`	`menotume`	`reply where ?`
`22:30.53`	`tea\|tree`	`menotume: check your emails`
`22:30.57`	`tea\|tree`	`qry= query`
`22:32.12`	`uso`	`is there already a fix for the /countdown pause bug? just got it again at a gu matchserver`
`22:32.42`	`tea\|tree`	`menotume: but its the first email from me 2 u !`
`22:33.04`	`menotume`	`lol, i'll fnid it`
`22:33.10`	`menotume`	`i get over 500/day`
`22:33.17`	`menotume`	`before spamassasined)`
`22:33.49`	`Birdie`	`500:s`
`22:33.59`	`Birdie`	`how in hell do you reach so many`
`22:34.31`	`tea\|tree`	`he registers 2 bzflag forums`
`22:34.46`	`tea\|tree`	`;)`
`22:34.51`	`menotume`	`well, i have to fix something, i get george@m-a-t.com, sam@m-a-t.com, etc.`
`22:34.59`	`tea\|tree`	`hat?`
`22:35.02`	`tea\|tree`	`what?`
`22:35.02`	`tea\|tree`	`;)`
`22:35.07`	`tea\|tree`	`did u get my mail?`
`22:35.07`	`menotume`	`they don't exisit, but got on a list somehow`
`22:35.14`	`menotume`	`working on it, tea`
`22:35.17`	`menotume`	`over 800 !`
`22:35.18`	`tea\|tree`	`h come on !`
`22:37.51`	`menotume`	`tea\|tree: http://pics.bzleague.com/thumbnails.php?album=10`
`22:39.30`	`Birdie`	`ouch;)`
`22:40.24`	`learner`	`hah, yay, more pics of old familiar names`
`22:41.44`	`learner`	`menotume, and for pasting your e-mail into an irc channel that is logged in several places on-line, you'll probably get a few dozen more now ;)`
`22:42.00`	`menotume`	`well, yes`
`22:42.10`	`menotume`	`i get a lot more from those phony addresses`
`22:42.28`	`menotume`	`20 or 30 of the same spam at the same time, all to phony names at my email`
`22:42.50`	`tea\|tree`	`bzflag legend since '99 ;)`
`22:42.57`	`menotume`	`i will bounce them as soon as my webhoster fixes the interface`
`22:43.04`	`learner`	`tea\|tree: hehe`
`22:43.26`	`tea\|tree`	`geesh i should get a other pic`
`22:43.29`	`learner`	`menotume, yeah.. I know the feeling somewhat, though I try to limit my public exposure in many ways ;)`
`22:43.34`	`tea\|tree`	`thats so old`
`22:43.41`	`learner`	`they still find me way more than I wish`
`22:43.53`	`menotume`	`:)`
`22:44.36`	`learner`	`i usually register new e-mails as their_name@mydomain.com replacing mydomain.com with my real domain of course so that I get the e-mail.. but I get to see who sells/posts the e-mails`
`22:45.09`	`menotume`	`right, gotya`
`22:45.23`	`learner`	`pretty effective`
`22:45.29`	`menotume`	`but, i'm now gonna bounce all except a few NAMES@my_domain`
`22:45.35`	`learner`	`i've found a couple losers that I stopped doing business with that way`
`22:45.48`	`menotume`	`i mean, there are 100's of names @ my_domain :(`
`22:45.56`	`menotume`	`dunno who made them up`
`22:46.14`	`learner`	`ahh, yes`
`22:46.29`	`menotume`	`fortunatly, spamassisn takes care of most of them`
`22:46.47`	`menotume`	`less than 100/day get through`
`22:47.44`	`learner`	`so that's why you haven't been responding to my offers to enhance your boobs`
`22:48.14`	`menotume`	`hehe`
`22:48.32`	`menotume`	`all kinds of enhancement offers :/`
`22:49.37`	`Tegan`	`why do we call it "offers" when people want our money?`
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`23:00.30`	`learner`	`Tegan, maybe they want to do it for free .. i've gotten lots of offers for free boobs ;)`
`23:01.04`	`Grumbler`	`did you take any?`
`23:01.06`	`Tegan`	`all you need is two`
`23:01.34`	`Grumbler`	`not sure anybody has "proved" that.... :)`
`23:01.38`	`learner`	`mine are growing, but I think it has more to do with the cheetos I had for dinner`
`23:01.38`	`tea\|tree`	`geesh why did i send you that pic menotume`
`23:01.42`	`tea\|tree`	`;o)`
`23:02.17`	`Grumbler`	`menotume, look into razor as well.....between the two its a rare week i get spam`
`23:02.25`	`tea\|tree`	`menotume: check ure mails i got another 1 4 ya ;)`
`23:04.40`	`menotume`	`tea\|tree: when was that first one taken ?`
`23:04.55`	`menotume`	`tea\|tree: http://pics.bzleague.com/displayimage.php?album=4&pos=0`
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`23:05.15`	`tea\|tree`	`menotume: dunno ;)`
`23:05.21`	`tea\|tree`	`JeffM2501: hola`
`23:06.01`	`JeffM2501`	`hello`
`23:06.19`	`tea\|tree`	`both of those pics are when i was drunk ?! X_--`
`23:06.40`	`learner`	`heh`
`23:06.47`	`JeffM2501`	`time to replace video cards :)`
`23:06.55`	`learner`	`tea\|tree: yeah.. and like you're not now :)`
`23:08.07`	`menotume`	`~bzfquery bzflag.sleepycows.us:5159`
`23:08.21`	`menotume`	`heh, just when i was testing :)`
`23:08.31`	`tea\|tree`	`learner: i live near the oktoberfest !`
`23:08.40`	`tea\|tree`	`Munich City ! Germany :P`
`23:08.48`	`learner`	`excellent :)`
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`23:09.09`	`tea\|tree`	`ha ! wait till i get pix from this weeks oktoberfest... omg..`
`23:09.14`	`tea\|tree`	`bryjen: hola`
`23:09.28`	`bryjen`	`hello`
`23:10.31`	`menotume`	`~bzfquery trepan.bzflag.bz:5432`
`23:10.37`	`menotume`	`yay :)`
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`23:11.58`	`bryjen`	`did sleepycows tip over again?`
`23:12.12`	`Tegan`	`only for a moment,`
`23:12.28`	`menotume`	`Tegan, i'm debugging :)`
`23:12.55`	`menotume`	`trepan !`
`23:12.58`	`menotume`	`i have a question`
`23:13.01`	`Tegan`	`menotume: code and ye shall debug`
`23:13.21`	`menotume`	`what's up with MsgGameTime ?`
`23:13.32`	`menotume`	`is it now just in addition to serverinfo ?`
`23:13.36`	`menotume`	`right before it ?`
`23:13.57`	`Tegan`	`bryjen: sleepycows is back up, don't tip the help`
`23:14.06`	`trepan`	`which Msg is serverinfo?`
`23:14.37`	`Aribeth`	`just fixed the teleporter bug in the map....i hope`
`23:14.45`	`menotume`	`well, bzfquery sends a 0x7167 Msg, and expects the same back (i call it serverinfo)`
`23:15.24`	`trepan`	`MsgQueryGame`
`23:15.24`	`menotume`	`i am assuming that it gets a MsgGameTime, then the 0x7167 Msg`
`23:15.31`	`menotume`	`ahh`
`23:15.48`	`trepan`	`which is only by request`
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`23:15.59`	`menotume`	`right`
`23:16.13`	`menotume`	`if i knew perl a bit better, i wouldn't have to ask`
`23:16.18`	`trepan`	`MsgGameTime is sent immediately after the playerIndex byte`
`23:16.21`	`blast007`	`the script should read the headers before it processes stuff, instead of assuming it's receiving it in a certain order :)`
`23:16.23`	`Tegan`	`ah`
`23:16.32`	`blast007`	`(if only I knew perl...)`
`23:16.34`	`menotume`	`not quite that easy, blast`
`23:16.46`	`menotume`	`if sometimes it gets MsgGameTime, sometimes it doesn't`
`23:16.54`	`blast007`	`right`
`23:16.55`	`menotume`	`i'll figure it out`
`23:17.03`	`blast007`	`so read the header, and see what the packet is`
`23:17.15`	`blast007`	`the header gives the message type, and the length of the data`
`23:17.26`	`menotume`	`trepan: ahhh, so it comes after the version request`
`23:17.31`	`menotume`	`okies, that makes sense too`
`23:18.20`	`JeffM2501`	`wheeee :)`
`23:18.33`	`menotume`	`blast, i don't know how many bytes to read`
`23:18.42`	`blast007`	`I think the header it 4`
`23:18.47`	`menotume`	`i don't want to add an uneeded timeout`
`23:18.54`	`trepan`	`it's a normal packet, it contains its length`
`23:19.06`	`menotume`	`IE: i am expecting 9 bytes of serverversion`
`23:19.17`	`menotume`	`i may get 9, i may get 9 + MsgGameTime`
`23:19.40`	`blast007`	`read 4 (the header), then determine how much more you need to read`
`23:19.42`	`trepan`	`read in 4 bytes, 2 for length, 2 for code (like all the normal packets)`
`23:20.02`	`menotume`	`but, the 4 bytes may not be there :)`
`23:20.18`	`menotume`	`so, will i timeout if the server is pre-2.0.4 ?`
`23:20.20`	`JeffM2501`	`check the read to make sure it's more then 4`
`23:20.20`	`trepan`	`what would you normal read in after the first 9?`
`23:20.27`	`blast007`	`isn't there a non-blocking mode for perl?`
`23:20.33`	`menotume`	`ugggg`
`23:20.47`	`menotume`	`if i tell it to read more than 9 ...`
`23:20.54`	`menotume`	`nvm - i'll figure it out`
`23:21.25`	`tea\|tree`	`bubu`
`23:22.09`	`bryjen`	`can i get someone on this continent (North America) to connect to bryjen.bzflag.org ?`
`23:22.17`	`JeffM2501`	`hmmm`
`23:22.20`	`menotume`	`web ?`
`23:22.26`	`bryjen`	`bzflag!`
`23:22.27`	`JeffM2501`	`bz runs bad with new cards in SLI :(`
`23:22.30`	`menotume`	`i got it`
`23:22.34`	`Aribeth`	`which continent is that?`
`23:23.02`	`Aribeth`	`:P`
`23:23.15`	`Aribeth`	`just teasing :P`
`23:25.39`	`JeffM2501`	`trepan, the old 8million face map isn't up anymore?`
`23:26.00`	`tea\|tree`	`eeesh`
`23:26.04`	`Tegan`	`menotume, it works`
`23:26.07`	`tea\|tree`	`2.0.4 @ 10 megs?`
`23:27.41`	`trepan`	`JeffM2501: nope, want it for something?`
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`23:28.01`	`JeffM2501`	`wanted to check frame rates on new cards compared to old`
`23:28.15`	`JeffM2501`	`but then seems SLI has issues on the new ones`
`23:28.24`	`Tegan`	`if your first read gets 0x6774, do another read`
`23:28.36`	`JeffM2501`	`driver update time I guess`
`23:31.34`	`tea\|tree`	`fps drops @ 2.0.4 ;)`
`23:31.59`	`JeffM2501`	`actualy I get masive FPS increase in 2.0.4`
`23:32.03`	`trepan`	`back up as "DrawInfo Test Server2"`
`23:32.16`	`JeffM2501`	`I want to test the diff from the old SLI setup to the new SLI setup`
`23:32.18`	`JeffM2501`	`thanks trepan`
`23:33.29`	`JeffM2501`	`hmm in non SLI with new cards it can vary from 22 to 205`
`23:33.35`	`JeffM2501`	`that's a higher peak then I remember`
`23:34.06`	`JeffM2501`	`I think I caped at 135 last time`
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`23:35.25`	`trepan`	`JeffM2501: try "/roampos 45", gives a standard position`
`23:35.40`	`JeffM2501`	`will when I restart`
`23:35.56`	`trepan`	`or /ro<CTRL-F> 45 ;)`
`23:36.00`	`JeffM2501`	`4 freaking DVI slots, it's rather insane`
`23:42.08`	`JeffM2501`	`hmmmm something is jacking SLI with these cards`
`23:42.20`	`JeffM2501`	`like a light blue overlay flickers`
`23:44.34`	`trepan`	`one sec`
`23:45.47`	`trepan`	`ah, not what i thought it might have been (the flickering that is)`
`23:45.55`	`trepan`	`what's different about your current SLI config?`
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