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| 00:09.01 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10BZFlagG3D/ (3 files in 3 dirs): some free fonts |
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| 00:12.31 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10BZFlagG3D/3D/ (inc/textures.h src/textures.cpp): shout... shout.. shout to the devIL |
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| 00:44.28 | TD-Linux | Whatever happened to the bzflag for console systems? |
| 00:47.01 | Aribeth | lol |
| 00:47.19 | JeffM2501 | you serious? |
| 00:47.48 | Aribeth | think back to April fools |
| 00:48.24 | TD-Linux | huh? |
| 00:48.34 | blast007 | no, there was a real project for it |
| 00:48.37 | JeffM2501 | what day was that "released" TD-Linux? |
| 00:48.39 | JeffM2501 | there were |
| 00:48.41 | Aribeth | nohh |
| 00:48.41 | TD-Linux | let's see |
| 00:48.45 | JeffM2501 | they came and went |
| 00:48.56 | JeffM2501 | when everyone said 'oh, I don't have GL" |
| 00:48.59 | TD-Linux | hmmm |
| 00:49.05 | TD-Linux | oops |
| 00:49.13 | TD-Linux | April --, 2004 |
| 00:49.14 | JeffM2501 | I don't belive anyone ever actualy started one, or had any real code |
| 00:49.25 | JeffM2501 | people talked the talk |
| 00:49.27 | JeffM2501 | and walked the walk |
| 00:49.36 | TD-Linux | but never coded the code? |
| 00:49.48 | JeffM2501 | umm no |
| 00:49.54 | brlcad | heh |
| 00:49.57 | TD-Linux | I found a sourceforge project for it |
| 00:50.03 | brlcad | the prank that never dies |
| 00:50.05 | JeffM2501 | I'm sure you did |
| 00:50.13 | JeffM2501 | how much code do they have TD-Linux? |
| 00:50.19 | JeffM2501 | and when were they last active? |
| 00:50.55 | TD-Linux | wait a bit... |
| 00:51.27 | TD-Linux | to the Dreamcast??? |
| 00:51.49 | TD-Linux | hehe, all the news items were made on one day! |
| 00:52.06 | JeffM2501 | the DC would be the closest one to being real, but it would be a nix port |
| 00:52.13 | JeffM2501 | TD-Linux, really? what day? |
| 00:52.20 | SportChick | sheesh - some guy is listed as 4th on the server list and it's all bots |
| 00:52.50 | TD-Linux | wow! it's fast how that person sent out those letters, got declined, sent out more... all on april fools day |
| 00:53.09 | Aribeth | there ya go |
| 00:53.32 | TD-Linux | I knew that already |
| 00:53.50 | JeffM2501 | then why ask what happend to them? |
| 00:53.59 | TD-Linux | I didn't know that |
| 00:54.10 | TD-Linux | until halfway through these about 100 chat messages |
| 00:54.22 | TD-Linux | more like 200 |
| 00:54.34 | TD-Linux | wait.. no, like 100 |
| 00:54.44 | JeffM2501 | umm does it REALY matter? |
| 00:54.56 | TD-Linux | no, just I know how to waste your time now |
| 00:55.08 | JeffM2501 | I know how to stop you wasting my time too |
| 00:55.12 | JeffM2501 | and it's REALY easy |
| 00:55.22 | Aribeth | oh oh |
| 00:55.33 | JeffM2501 | I'm just sayin ;) |
| 00:55.33 | TD-Linux | this sounds scary |
| 00:55.38 | TD-Linux | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:55.46 | TD-Linux | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:55.49 | ibot | from memory, lart is Luser Attitude Re-adjustment Tool |
| 00:55.49 | JeffM2501 | only as scary as you make it munchkin |
| 00:56.03 | TD-Linux | ~spell |
| 00:56.53 | JeffM2501 | where do these kiddies come from? |
| 00:56.58 | Aribeth | duno |
| 00:57.43 | Aribeth | i thought that tread was done and gone long ago |
| 00:58.19 | JeffM2501 | never underestimate the ability for boored homeschoolers to dredge up stuff when they should be studdying |
| 00:58.31 | JeffM2501 | they scan the boards all day long |
| 00:58.35 | Aribeth | yep |
| 00:58.39 | JeffM2501 | it shows on the admin pannel |
| 00:58.44 | Aribeth | i see them all the time on my server |
| 00:59.19 | Aribeth | and they get kicked/banned |
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| 00:59.56 | Aribeth | hi orchid |
| 01:01.38 | orchid_ | hi |
| 01:07.14 | blast007 | the SF project wasn't part of the april fools thread, afaik |
| 01:07.42 | Aribeth | ahh |
| 01:07.53 | Aribeth | i didnt know that |
| 01:08.01 | blast007 | Registered: 2004-01-16 06:22 |
| 01:08.26 | blast007 | but it's dead now anyway |
| 01:09.38 | blast007 | all you have to do is a project search for 'bzflag', and people are like "woah, someone is doing a console version" |
| 01:09.54 | Aribeth | ya |
| 01:13.06 | Aribeth | the munchkins dont take the time to research what they find on their own |
| 01:18.50 | blast007 | http://web.archive.org/web/20040526010704/www.webtrotter.com/bzflag/ |
| 01:18.59 | blast007 | that's a cache of the old console page |
| 01:20.06 | blast007 | BZFlag on a console might actually be possible with the PS3 |
| 01:20.21 | blast007 | it's supposed to run linux natively |
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| 01:25.00 | Aribeth | wow cool |
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| 01:53.27 | RPG_ | mah |
| 01:53.29 | RPG_ | meh |
| 01:53.33 | RPG_ | win XP again |
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| 01:56.46 | RPG_ | hi Jeff |
| 01:56.58 | RPG_ | when stuff gets pruned, does it detract from your post ocunt? |
| 01:57.12 | RPG_ | or did you just go though the board merrily slashing my posts? |
| 01:57.20 | JeffM2501 | yes |
| 02:00.08 | purple_cow | people care about post counts? |
| 02:00.28 | JeffM2501 | children seem to |
| 02:01.32 | JeffM2501 | I should have never tied it to miltary ranks |
| 02:02.14 | purple_cow | you could make the ranks go *down* with post count :) |
| 02:04.44 | JeffM2501 | heh |
| 02:04.58 | RPG_ | "no results" |
| 02:05.05 | RPG_ | errr wrong window :D |
| 02:34.24 | JeffM2501 | why do the church kids think they can get on a soapbox in the forums and think it's ok just because they put it in "chat" ? |
| 02:34.49 | RPG_ | because AA is a spammer |
| 02:35.02 | JeffM2501 | no he's not |
| 02:35.05 | JeffM2501 | he's a bored child |
| 02:35.14 | JeffM2501 | and it wasn't even AA this time |
| 02:36.24 | RPG_ | does fstream have any advantages over fwrite() ? |
| 02:36.49 | JeffM2501 | it's slicker |
| 02:36.58 | RPG_ | hmm |
| 02:37.01 | RPG_ | fwrite()'ll stay |
| 02:37.09 | JeffM2501 | but in the end it all calls the same low level OS write code |
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| 02:53.51 | RPG_ | ((bz_ChatEventData*)eventData)->to |
| 02:53.51 | RPG_ | doesn't seem to correspond to |
| 02:53.51 | RPG_ | BZ_ALLUSERS |
| 02:53.59 | RPG_ | i'm getting some strange numbers here |
| 02:54.16 | RPG_ | a message sent to everyone, and eventData->to is "254" |
| 02:54.30 | RPG_ | not the -1 that BZ_ALLUSERS was set to |
| 02:54.36 | RPG_ | btw, this is API |
| 02:55.27 | JeffM2501 | the all users thing is for sending |
| 02:55.32 | RPG_ | oh |
| 02:55.34 | JeffM2501 | 254 is everyone |
| 02:55.41 | RPG_ | is that constant? |
| 02:55.56 | JeffM2501 | yeah, but let me make it return the enum |
| 02:56.04 | JeffM2501 | for consistency |
| 02:56.12 | RPG_ | what about the team messages? |
| 02:56.26 | JeffM2501 | yeah I have to figure something out for that |
| 02:56.31 | JeffM2501 | I hate the way we do it |
| 02:56.35 | JeffM2501 | so inconsistent |
| 02:56.39 | RPG_ | the numbers are strange |
| 02:56.47 | JeffM2501 | no they arn't |
| 02:56.50 | RPG_ | where did the logic for 254 come from? |
| 02:56.53 | JeffM2501 | you know enumerations are just number right |
| 02:56.57 | RPG_ | yes |
| 02:57.11 | JeffM2501 | ok, so the player ID is an unsigned char |
| 02:57.31 | JeffM2501 | so there can be a max of 256 values for it |
| 02:57.49 | JeffM2501 | 254 was picked becaus it's near the edge of the range |
| 02:58.00 | JeffM2501 | 255 is server player IIRC |
| 02:58.47 | RPG_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:58.50 | RPG_ | for logging in masterbot |
| 02:58.52 | JeffM2501 | no |
| 02:58.56 | JeffM2501 | let me fix it |
| 02:58.58 | RPG_ | ok |
| 02:59.01 | JeffM2501 | I'll add a team to the structure |
| 02:59.03 | RPG_ | makes my life easier :) |
| 02:59.11 | RPG_ | i'll check out tommorow then |
| 02:59.14 | JeffM2501 | I abstracted it |
| 02:59.19 | JeffM2501 | in case we change the backend |
| 03:00.01 | JeffM2501 | gack.... default context colloring.... blinding.............. |
| 03:00.48 | RPG_ | the default is so.... ugly |
| 03:01.21 | JeffM2501 | how do you know what defaults I am speaking of? |
| 03:01.48 | RPG_ | i assumed :( |
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| 03:02.23 | JeffM2501 | asumed what? |
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| 03:07.23 | JeffM2501 | I don't use VCs builtin coloring |
| 03:07.27 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/ (include/bzfsAPI.h plugins/doc/events.html src/bzfs/bzfs.cxx): |
| 03:07.27 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: add a team paramater to chat event, set if the item is a to team message. |
| 03:07.27 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: set the ID to BZ_ALLUSERS if the message is to 254 |
| 03:07.28 | JeffM2501 | it dosn't color all things |
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| 03:33.03 | menotume | re-attached ! |
| 03:33.10 | menotume | detached again |
| 03:36.13 | menotume | hmmm? whaaa? |
| 03:36.51 | menotume | what i do now ? :) |
| 03:39.11 | brlcad | so you don't detach so easily next time |
| 03:39.46 | menotume | ahhhh, thx - i was speaking of Quol though |
| 03:40.02 | brlcad | uh huh |
| 03:40.44 | menotume | these things never work right - OW |
| 03:41.29 | menotume | staple removed ... 2 gashes added to arm |
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| 04:04.05 | bz1816 | how do you put yourself on auto pilot |
| 04:04.10 | menotume | 9 |
| 04:04.16 | menotume | press '9' |
| 04:04.23 | bz1816 | ok |
| 04:04.24 | bz1816 | ty |
| 04:04.27 | unotmeu | yw |
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| 04:39.04 | bzflagwiz | TimRiker et al. - I need to upgrade automake on the bzflag.secretplace.us server. Anyone have any concerns with this? |
| 04:46.08 | JeffM2501 | as long as it works |
| 04:46.23 | JeffM2501 | what vesion is it now? |
| 04:46.33 | bzflagwiz | 1.4.4 |
| 04:46.52 | bzflagwiz | can't compile new bzfs without at least 1.6.0 |
| 04:47.13 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 04:47.38 | JeffM2501 | and it may need autotool |
| 04:47.43 | bzflagwiz | Are you (or anyone you know of) compiling anything on the server? |
| 04:47.51 | JeffM2501 | sorry libtoo |
| 04:47.58 | JeffM2501 | nope, bzfs is it |
| 04:48.00 | JeffM2501 | so go for it |
| 04:48.34 | bzflagwiz | cool - just wanted to make sure y'all wouldn't be affected by the version change, or by the timing of the upgrade |
| 04:48.58 | JeffM2501 | it's not like we can't roll it back if needed |
| 04:49.12 | bzflagwiz | Did you see my post about the Phantom Zone / flag drop on pause bug? |
| 04:49.18 | JeffM2501 | I did |
| 04:49.31 | JeffM2501 | sounds like a very rare case that noone thought of |
| 04:49.46 | bzflagwiz | Not sure if it is a "new" bug, but someone just pointed it out to me tonight |
| 04:50.12 | bzflagwiz | should be easy to fix, at least in a "hackish" sort of way :) |
| 04:50.19 | JeffM2501 | go for it |
| 04:51.14 | bzflagwiz | I don't have a working build system right now - just built a new PC and haven't got mingw on it yet |
| 05:02.34 | Mr_Molez | jeff hows your premade voice sound project coming along ? |
| 05:03.24 | JeffM2501 | the plugin was done |
| 05:04.10 | Mr_Molez | uh really ? cvs ? |
| 05:04.15 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 05:04.18 | JeffM2501 | tho it dosn't play sound |
| 05:04.20 | Mr_Molez | ahh gr8 |
| 05:04.23 | JeffM2501 | there were stability issues |
| 05:04.24 | Mr_Molez | oh |
| 05:04.48 | JeffM2501 | ome of those other OSs coudln't handle it |
| 05:05.25 | Mr_Molez | that's a pitty |
| 05:08.08 | JeffM2501 | it is what it is |
| 05:52.26 | Mr_Molez | umm this plugin is for serverside ? |
| 06:04.10 | Mr_Molez | ZzZz |
| 06:06.48 | JeffM2501 | all plugins are serverside |
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| 08:50.59 | Aribeth | !dict smack |
| 08:51.00 | TheLastSpartan | Aribeth: wn, gcide, and moby-thes responded: gcide: Smack \Smack\, n. Same as {heroin}; -- a slang term. [slang] [PJC]; gcide: Smack \Smack\, adv. As if with a smack or slap. [Colloq.] [1913 Webster]; gcide: Smack \Smack\, n. [D. smak; akin to LG. smack, smak, Dan. smakke, G. schmacke, F. semaque.] (Naut.) A small sailing vessel, commonly rigged as a sloop, used chiefly in the (18 more messages) |
| 08:51.33 | Aribeth | !dict talking smack |
| 08:51.35 | TheLastSpartan | Aribeth: No definition for 'talking smack' could be found. |
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| 08:51.48 | Aribeth | hi TS |
| 08:52.01 | ToughShooter | Hiya |
| 08:52.37 | Aribeth | !dict more smack |
| 08:52.38 | TheLastSpartan | Aribeth: No definition for 'more smack' could be found. |
| 08:53.08 | Aribeth | how are you TS |
| 08:53.10 | meacan | Aribeth: try !dict smack and then !more |
| 08:53.17 | Aribeth | ok |
| 08:53.25 | Aribeth | !dict smack |
| 08:53.27 | TheLastSpartan | Aribeth: wn, gcide, and moby-thes responded: gcide: Smack \Smack\, n. Same as {heroin}; -- a slang term. [slang] [PJC]; gcide: Smack \Smack\, adv. As if with a smack or slap. [Colloq.] [1913 Webster]; gcide: Smack \Smack\, n. [D. smak; akin to LG. smack, smak, Dan. smakke, G. schmacke, F. semaque.] (Naut.) A small sailing vessel, commonly rigged as a sloop, used chiefly in the (18 more messages) |
| 08:53.36 | Aribeth | !more |
| 08:53.37 | TheLastSpartan | Aribeth: coasting and fishing trade. [1913 Webster]; gcide: Smack \Smack\, v. t. 1. To kiss with a sharp noise; to buss. [1913 Webster] 2. To open, as the lips, with an inarticulate sound made by a quick compression and separation of the parts of the mouth; to make a noise with, as the lips, by separating them in the act of kissing or after tasting. [1913 Webster] Drinking off the cup, (17 more messages) |
| 08:53.38 | ToughShooter | I'm getting desperate...my burnt DVD-Rs are not working with my laptop even though the drive accepts burnt DVD-Rs from others, identical setup on both machines but sdl compiles at my laptop etc |
| 08:53.54 | Aribeth | ahh |
| 08:54.14 | Aribeth | !more |
| 08:54.15 | TheLastSpartan | Aribeth: and smacking his lips with an air of ineffable relish. --Sir W. Scott. [1913 Webster] 3. To make a sharp noise by striking; to crack; as, to smack a whip. "She smacks the silken thong." --Young. [1913 Webster]; gcide: Smack \Smack\, n. [OE. smak, AS. ssm?c taste, savor; akin to D. smaak, G. geschmack, OHG. smac; cf. Lith. smagus pleasant. Cf. {Smack}, v. i.] 1. Taste or flavor, (16 more messages) |
| 08:54.28 | Aribeth | !more |
| 08:54.29 | TheLastSpartan | Aribeth: esp. a slight taste or flavor; savor; tincture; as, a smack of bitter in the medicine. Also used figuratively. [1913 Webster] So quickly they have taken a smack in covetousness. --Robynson (More's Utopia). [1913 Webster] They felt the smack of this world. --Latimer. [1913 Webster] 2. A small quantity; a taste. --Dryden. [1913 Webster] 3. A loud kiss; a buss. "A clamorous smack." (15 more messages) |
| 08:54.36 | ToughShooter | Hmm, !more seems to have side effects |
| 08:54.48 | Aribeth | heh, nothing about talking smack |
| 08:55.17 | Aribeth | oryx got me really pissed off tonight |
| 08:56.01 | ToughShooter | means more complicated operational semantic...as if semantic with referential transparency wouldn't be difficult enough |
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| 08:56.08 | meacan | oops :) |
| 08:57.06 | Aribeth | guess i overloaded it |
| 08:57.25 | meacan | i was trying to get it to write all 18 messages in private |
| 08:57.27 | ToughShooter | The side effects may have caused a crash ;) |
| 08:57.35 | Aribeth | ahh |
| 08:58.36 | Aribeth | geezzz. 5 am here |
| 08:59.15 | Aribeth | i've been up all night :( |
| 08:59.25 | ToughShooter | hehe |
| 08:59.27 | Aribeth | and now im pissed |
| 09:01.48 | ToughShooter | When I've holidays I end up sleeping later and later with time |
| 09:02.04 | Aribeth | yep. me too |
| 09:04.01 | Birdie | and it ends you stay up till the next morning:) |
| 09:04.11 | Aribeth | yep |
| 09:04.33 | Aribeth | and angry at oryx on top of it all |
| 09:04.42 | Birdie | cause you are tired |
| 09:04.49 | ToughShooter | When my holidays are over I've to stay up at 6AM again :( |
| 09:05.02 | Aribeth | cause im tired and he had to get me angry |
| 09:05.02 | Birdie | get up or stay up? |
| 09:05.08 | Birdie | "he"? |
| 09:05.18 | Birdie | husband? |
| 09:05.23 | Birdie | pc?:) |
| 09:05.35 | Aribeth | no, a player on my server |
| 09:05.41 | Birdie | oh |
| 09:05.52 | Aribeth | he likes to talk smack |
| 09:05.54 | ToughShooter | Our beloved Punisher? ;) |
| 09:06.02 | Aribeth | oryx |
| 09:06.14 | Birdie | dunno him/her |
| 09:06.23 | ToughShooter | I don't know that player, either |
| 09:06.43 | Aribeth | he just couldnt understand why i got pissed after he berated me |
| 09:07.00 | Aribeth | he just wanted to pick a fight |
| 09:07.06 | Aribeth | not yet |
| 09:08.06 | Aribeth | the problem is im Irish and Itallian. once im pissed i stay pissed |
| 09:08.29 | Birdie | oh ya those kind of people;) |
| 09:08.42 | Aribeth | yep |
| 09:09.00 | Aribeth | i gave it back to him :) |
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| 09:18.37 | Aribeth | well, he just got banned :) |
| 09:22.56 | Birdie | :) |
| 09:25.28 | ToughShooter | some are really asking for it |
| 09:26.53 | Birdie | i dont have troubles to give it when they really want it |
| 09:28.19 | Aribeth | just scanned the logs. what a mouth |
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| 09:50.36 | LePoulpe303 | hi there ! |
| 09:50.50 | LePoulpe303 | is there a way to send player password from command l ine ? |
| 09:51.01 | LePoulpe303 | don't find that in man pages |
| 09:54.19 | meacan | LePoulpe303: bzflag user:pass@server |
| 09:54.45 | LePoulpe303 | meacan : great ! thanks |
| 09:54.56 | LePoulpe303 | i'm working on another bz launcher in python |
| 09:55.15 | LePoulpe303 | (another because i'm sure 100 ppl have already programmed one) |
| 09:58.26 | meacan | I only know the one on fortix site. But then again, i dont use them, so i didnt do anything to find them :) |
| 09:59.05 | LePoulpe303 | :) |
| 09:59.14 | LePoulpe303 | mine will be the best :D |
| 10:00.23 | LePoulpe303 | user:pass doesn't seem to works |
| 10:00.40 | meacan | what version are you using? |
| 10:00.44 | LePoulpe303 | 2.0.2 |
| 10:01.14 | meacan | could be a new feature in cvs |
| 10:01.24 | LePoulpe303 | :'( |
| 10:01.53 | meacan | but its going to be release in near future :) |
| 10:02.23 | LePoulpe303 | ok ; i'll continue with /identify for the moment then |
| 10:02.25 | meacan | anyway, why do you need to specify password? With global login, you dont need per-server passwords |
| 10:03.19 | LePoulpe303 | i want to manage several players identity with different passwords so i need to pass it to cmd line |
| 10:03.36 | LePoulpe303 | or modify directly config.cfg |
| 10:04.49 | LePoulpe303 | but ui design and launching game was already a pain in the .ss with python, so modify a line in a text file seems just a little less difficult than putting a satellite in geo orbital |
| 10:06.37 | meacan | you can use -config to specify a player-specific configurationfile - and then you could simply have a config for all your plaer identifies.. that would also allow people to use different setups (screensize, shotsize..whatever) |
| 10:13.01 | LePoulpe303 | hmmm good idea .... |
| 10:14.14 | LePoulpe303 | but less difficult for standard user |
| 10:14.21 | LePoulpe303 | more not less |
| 10:14.53 | meacan | Why should it be more difficult? |
| 10:16.22 | LePoulpe303 | you're right ; i should copy the original config.cfg then modify the copy and launch it; |
| 10:16.55 | LePoulpe303 | perhaps only 5 days of python documentation diving :D |
| 10:18.49 | meacan | Ah, you mean you're lazy? ;) |
| 10:19.36 | LePoulpe303 | do u know any real programmer that is not ? |
| 10:20.30 | meacan | depends on what a real programmer is :) |
| 10:20.57 | LePoulpe303 | you're right |
| 10:22.31 | LePoulpe303 | impossible to define that without starting usual teenager style debate |
| 10:23.52 | meacan | dunno if its impossible, but it would sure be a waste of time. |
| 10:23.58 | meacan | But good luck with your project :) |
| 10:24.24 | meacan | cya |
| 10:25.48 | _Manu_ | LePoulpe303, try: bzflag "user name:password@host:port" |
| 10:26.23 | LePoulpe303 | _Manu_ : meacan signaled me that but it doesn't seems to work on 2.0.2 |
| 10:26.48 | _Manu_ | I'm not sure, try it... but sure I found a bug on it now.. when parsing :( |
| 10:28.20 | LePoulpe303 | meacan suggest me to play with config file instead and i think he's right |
| 10:28.39 | _Manu_ | yes, of course you can change the config file every time.. |
| 10:29.11 | _Manu_ | but I suggest you don't waste time on it.. probably 2.0.4 will be out soon |
| 10:29.36 | LePoulpe303 | great news ! |
| 10:30.38 | LePoulpe303 | g2g cya |
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| 13:10.48 | Birdie | hmm is it only me...cant see serverlist |
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| 13:28.12 | SportChick | Hi all. Is the list server down? |
| 13:29.55 | Birdie | yeps |
| 13:30.13 | SportChick | bummer |
| 13:32.43 | trepan | need SP's addr? ;) |
| 13:33.29 | Birdie | global doesnt work either? |
| 13:34.16 | trepan | list server appears to be up again |
| 13:44.59 | SportChick | trepan, no, not secretplaces - I know that one - just couldn't get on to anything at first |
| 13:45.07 | SportChick | it's all fine now |
| 13:49.30 | _Manu_ | SportChick, you can use local password if you have one |
| 13:49.38 | _Manu_ | :) |
| 13:54.48 | SportChick | _Manu_: yes, I am aware of that - however, I am not a full admin on the server i was on |
| 13:55.26 | _Manu_ | you allways can use: SportChick_unidentified as callsign ;) |
| 13:56.10 | jpa- | isn't that too long? |
| 13:56.24 | _Manu_ | probably.. I never tried :) |
| 13:56.30 | _Manu_ | but I guess no |
| 13:56.31 | SportChick | _Manu_: that wasn't the problem - I could have joined as an observer - the issue was that I need to use my admin privileges and couldn't |
| 13:57.00 | _Manu_ | I understandm just kidding :p |
| 13:57.04 | SportChick | :) |
| 13:58.00 | _Manu_ | SportChick, about the endShot and drop shield message.. it don't works :) |
| 13:58.15 | _Manu_ | the server checks if the player has really SH |
| 13:58.49 | _Manu_ | and at the end he get kicked because the endShots |
| 14:00.42 | _Manu_ | if you want it less tolerant, you can set _endShotDetection to 3, but can make falses kicks for laggy players |
| 14:00.49 | _Manu_ | 5 is the default value |
| 14:04.08 | SportChick | _Manu_: I'm sorry - I am not sure what you are talking about |
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| 16:24.49 | JeffM2501 | anyone seen vader, or "i died once" or whatever he uses around? |
| 16:27.50 | _Manu_ | no |
| 16:30.20 | JeffM2501 | oooo AA took a bit hit today in the auto prune |
| 16:32.13 | menotume | ~seen I_Died_Once |
| 16:32.18 | ibot | i_died_once <n=I_Died_O@pcp0010382004pcs.savana01.ga.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #bzflag, 1d 17h 15m 56s ago, saying: 'you hat'. |
| 16:33.01 | JeffM2501 | the boy needs to make sure he has all the crap he wants saved, sticky in his forums |
| 16:33.37 | trepan | JeffM2501: your auto-pruning taking client logins into account? |
| 16:34.06 | JeffM2501 | huh? |
| 16:34.25 | JeffM2501 | it's not pruning USERS |
| 16:34.29 | JeffM2501 | it's pruning posts |
| 16:34.41 | trepan | ah, based on what? |
| 16:34.54 | JeffM2501 | time with no posts |
| 16:35.01 | JeffM2501 | only in a few forums |
| 16:35.05 | JeffM2501 | chat, and the server ones |
| 16:35.49 | JeffM2501 | basicly if it hasn't been added to in 21 days, and it's not sticky, or an annoucement, and in chat, or the specific server forums ( like mofo and meterorite ) then it's removed |
| 16:36.00 | JeffM2501 | keeps the crap from showing in searches |
| 16:36.11 | JeffM2501 | none of the "real" forums are pruned at all |
| 16:36.20 | JeffM2501 | since they can contain valid info for a search later |
| 16:36.47 | JeffM2501 | tho I will go clean them up somtimes and remove the stupid OS wars, lame comments, and munchkin "kewl" stuff to make it read better for help |
| 16:38.31 | trepan | how about the apocalyptic prophecies? ;) |
| 16:38.38 | JeffM2501 | tell me about it |
| 16:38.48 | JeffM2501 | that one is locked now |
| 16:39.01 | JeffM2501 | it'll be removed at some point |
| 16:39.18 | trepan | should move it to a 'what not to post' forum |
| 16:39.35 | JeffM2501 | I added a rules post to the chat forum |
| 16:39.42 | JeffM2501 | that somewhat hints to posts like that |
| 16:40.15 | JeffM2501 | why do they thing that a forum about a game is a place to discuss stuff like that? |
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| 16:43.51 | menotume | JeffM2501: what did i do wrong? ....bzfs.cxx: In function `void playerAlive(int)': |
| 16:43.52 | menotume | bzfs.cxx:2191: error: 'class bz_PlayerSpawnEventData' has no member named 'teamID' |
| 16:44.10 | menotume | (current cvs) |
| 16:44.23 | menotume | lemme make clean and see |
| 16:44.26 | JeffM2501 | I probably took the term ID off |
| 16:44.36 | JeffM2501 | spawn event still had team as an int, not an enum |
| 16:44.39 | JeffM2501 | I fixed it yesterday |
| 16:45.01 | menotume | hmm, i just did update |
| 16:45.12 | JeffM2501 | maybe I screwed up |
| 16:45.14 | JeffM2501 | let me check |
| 16:45.17 | menotume | k |
| 16:46.10 | menotume | i am currently: "./configure --disable-plugins" |
| 16:46.27 | JeffM2501 | dosn't mater |
| 16:46.32 | JeffM2501 | the API is used internaly |
| 16:46.55 | menotume | ok, i just thought that may have caused something to not be there |
| 16:47.17 | JeffM2501 | your line dosn't look like this? |
| 16:47.18 | JeffM2501 | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:47.25 | menotume | lemm look |
| 16:47.35 | JeffM2501 | line 2130 |
| 16:48.04 | JeffM2501 | opp |
| 16:48.07 | JeffM2501 | no wrong place |
| 16:48.10 | menotume | :) |
| 16:48.12 | JeffM2501 | I may have forgoten to commit |
| 16:48.18 | menotume | 2191 is: spawnEvent.teamID = playerData->player.getTeam(); |
| 16:48.50 | JeffM2501 | yeah it is spawnEvent.team = convertTeam(playerData->player.getTeam()); |
| 16:48.50 | JeffM2501 | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:48.57 | menotume | :) |
| 16:49.03 | JeffM2501 | let me check and see if I missed any others |
| 16:49.19 | JeffM2501 | my commit went "oddly" yesterday |
| 16:50.20 | menotume | ahh, hit & miss :) |
| 16:51.06 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/src/bzfs/bzfs.cxx: check in the rest of the changes that will make the API changes from yesterday actualy work |
| 16:51.10 | JeffM2501 | there ya go |
| 16:51.16 | JeffM2501 | 2 changes were actualy missed |
| 16:51.18 | menotume | thx :) |
| 16:51.20 | JeffM2501 | should be good now |
| 16:51.22 | JeffM2501 | sorry bout that |
| 16:51.26 | menotume | i'll let ou know :) |
| 16:51.28 | menotume | np |
| 16:51.34 | JeffM2501 | the other was a warning |
| 16:51.38 | menotume | i like quick fixes |
| 17:03.00 | menotume | JeffM2501: built just fine, thx |
| 17:03.05 | JeffM2501 | cool |
| 17:16.39 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10BZFlagG3D/3D/inc/openGL.h: little gl never hurt anyone |
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| 17:26.31 | Tupone | ~seen Erroneous |
| 17:26.36 | ibot | erroneous is currently on #bzflag (3d 11h 42m 12s) #brlcad (3d 11h 42m 12s). Has said a total of 20 messages. Is idling for 2d 20h 15m 28s |
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| 19:41.23 | Inferno | hi |
| 19:46.22 | _Manu_ | hi |
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| 19:59.43 | Tupone | hey orchid :) |
| 20:00.00 | Tupone | hi to both |
| 20:00.47 | JeffM2501 | Tupone, the ftgl thing seems prety cool |
| 20:01.13 | TimRiker | ~spell asplode |
| 20:01.17 | Tupone | yeah, I know ... :) just a bit slow. slower then current implementation. |
| 20:01.27 | JeffM2501 | Tupone, I am not so sure about that |
| 20:01.32 | JeffM2501 | it depends how you use it |
| 20:01.54 | Tupone | yeah, I know. I had to analyze why, but had not done |
| 20:01.55 | JeffM2501 | there are ways to make it more happy |
| 20:02.05 | JeffM2501 | it dosn't like our context swaps |
| 20:02.33 | JeffM2501 | but then noone likes our state system |
| 20:02.43 | JeffM2501 | what font type did you do? |
| 20:02.59 | JeffM2501 | and were you doing entire charset or just a subset? |
| 20:03.01 | Tupone | I don't remember, written in the SF |
| 20:03.32 | JeffM2501 | TimRiker, you need to watch strongbad to appricate 'asplode' :) |
| 20:03.47 | Tupone | https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=996930&group_id=3248&atid=303248 |
| 20:03.49 | JeffM2501 | timriker, hows the noob baby? |
| 20:04.46 | Tupone | arial.ttf |
| 20:05.14 | JeffM2501 | Tupone, oh no I meant what type of font in the code, they have all the difrent types |
| 20:05.21 | JeffM2501 | bitmap, outline, texture, etc... |
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| 20:05.25 | JeffM2501 | I got the code |
| 20:05.28 | JeffM2501 | so I'll look |
| 20:05.37 | Tupone | ok |
| 20:05.44 | Tupone | texture IIRC |
| 20:06.32 | JeffM2501 | is arial gpl? |
| 20:07.02 | JeffM2501 | yeah you did texture fonts |
| 20:08.28 | Tupone | IIRC is gpl |
| 20:08.32 | JeffM2501 | cool |
| 20:08.47 | JeffM2501 | I thinik if I was gonna do it, I'd break font manger into 2 parts |
| 20:08.58 | JeffM2501 | the outer one that did the underline, blink, and color stuff |
| 20:09.04 | JeffM2501 | and a low level one that just drew text |
| 20:09.24 | Tupone | cool |
| 20:09.41 | JeffM2501 | and redo it so we only load fonts and sizes that are used |
| 20:09.48 | JeffM2501 | only with characters that are used |
| 20:10.50 | Tupone | IIRC, FTGL only put the character he is required on a big texture |
| 20:10.51 | JeffM2501 | or I could be full of it again |
| 20:11.14 | JeffM2501 | there are a couple ways to get FTGL to only use subsets of used characters |
| 20:11.16 | Tupone | and if texture is full get a new area |
| 20:12.13 | Tupone | I think that way it is trying to minimize texture switching |
| 20:12.39 | Tupone | if all char that are used can fit on a texture, no switch at all when drawing strings |
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| 20:23.12 | TimRiker | JeffM2501: parent and child processes are running fine. having a little trouble with the scheduler. need to call sleep() more frequently and get the processes to stay there longer. |
| 20:23.52 | Tupone | :) |
| 20:23.57 | TimRiker | JeffM2501: arial is NOT gpl. it's not re-distributable. |
| 20:25.15 | Tupone | TimRiker: any objection on releasing soon. 2.0.4-rc1 is out I'd wait for end of week |
| 20:26.36 | Tupone | well I missed a question mark |
| 20:29.38 | Tupone | Microsoft TrueType Fonts EULA :( |
| 20:32.20 | TimRiker | Tupone: I'd like to release soon, yes. I'm nervous about the plugin working on all arches, but I've not played with it much either. |
| 20:33.18 | Tupone | Personally I'm against those, but the biggest problem is the client. Server can be replaced without much problem |
| 20:33.38 | Tupone | and debian is broken so a release is good |
| 20:34.22 | Tupone | I don't know how to build a package for debian. We put 2.0.4-rc1 windows exe and source on m.b.o/builds/ |
| 20:34.31 | JeffM2501 | TimRiker, the plugins are not used by default at all |
| 20:34.43 | JeffM2501 | and they have bene tested on linux, windows, OSX, and BSD |
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| 20:35.56 | JeffM2501 | even if the plugins totaly fail, bzfs will run normaly |
| 20:36.12 | bz4775 | how do i register globaly |
| 20:36.14 | Tupone | I tagged source that contribute to 2.0.4-rc1 as v2_0_4_rc1 |
| 20:36.21 | Tupone | bzbb.bzflag.org |
| 20:36.32 | JeffM2501 | well we have to do a RC2, we know that |
| 20:36.46 | JeffM2501 | I did an API change last night :) |
| 20:36.50 | bz4775 | so anyone know how |
| 20:37.02 | Tupone | bz4775: go to http://bzbb.bzflag.org |
| 20:37.11 | bz4775 | and register in the formum? |
| 20:37.14 | Tupone | yeah |
| 20:37.15 | bz4775 | then i use that in the game |
| 20:37.17 | Tupone | yeah |
| 20:37.21 | bz4775 | ok i |
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| 20:37.24 | JeffM2501 | same username and same password |
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| 20:46.48 | longhair | Hello, would anyone be able to point me in the right direction? I'm running a private server, but I was looking to use the global login service so that we don't all have to login using /identify. Is it a simple conf file issue? |
| 20:47.02 | JeffM2501 | you need cvs to do that |
| 20:47.06 | JeffM2501 | it's a brand new feature |
| 20:47.20 | longhair | got it. using version from 8-31 |
| 20:47.35 | Tupone | longhair: use the 2.0.4-rc1 |
| 20:47.35 | JeffM2501 | that's prety old |
| 20:47.49 | Tupone | or CVS HEAD |
| 20:48.01 | JeffM2501 | there is a way to "advertise" groups, and that tells it to go to the list server |
| 20:48.06 | Tupone | older version do not have that option |
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| 20:48.09 | JeffM2501 | menotume is the best to ask |
| 20:48.25 | JeffM2501 | we just swaped the list server over to support it |
| 20:48.32 | Chestal | IIRC you make it a normal public server, but then use -advertisegroup to limit the visibility to people in that global groups |
| 20:48.38 | Chestal | or just use 'none' as group name |
| 20:48.52 | JeffM2501 | Chestal, yeah I think you do |
| 20:49.03 | JeffM2501 | or I recall him doing something with none as a group :) |
| 20:49.32 | longhair | so in my conf I would use: -advertisegroup none |
| 20:49.35 | JeffM2501 | so you'd do -public -advertisegroups none |
| 20:49.39 | JeffM2501 | you need -public too |
| 20:49.43 | longhair | ok |
| 20:49.49 | JeffM2501 | basicly your going public, for noobody :) |
| 20:50.02 | longhair | I'll check it out. Thanks everyone. |
| 20:50.18 | JeffM2501 | hmm that means I could do -advertisegroups developers :) |
| 20:50.21 | JeffM2501 | that'd be cool |
| 20:54.44 | Inferno | Jeff, has tadd talked to you about getting a cop group file or something? |
| 20:55.03 | JeffM2501 | dosnt' sound famialar |
| 20:55.13 | JeffM2501 | did they post in the "request groups here" forum? |
| 20:55.33 | Inferno | I dunno, just that he hasn't gotten it for along time! |
| 20:55.49 | JeffM2501 | goten what? |
| 20:56.06 | Inferno | the global cop group |
| 20:56.16 | JeffM2501 | again, did he post? |
| 20:56.22 | Inferno | I donno! |
| 20:56.27 | JeffM2501 | GO LOOK |
| 20:56.50 | Inferno | I don't know where to look, where's the forum |
| 20:57.06 | JeffM2501 | search |
| 20:57.09 | Inferno | k |
| 20:57.13 | JeffM2501 | I belive it's in policing |
| 20:59.41 | Inferno | yes he did |
| 20:59.51 | JeffM2501 | did we say we did it? |
| 21:00.17 | Inferno | nope, it's the last post |
| 21:00.28 | JeffM2501 | then noone has done ityet |
| 21:00.38 | Inferno | Location: Moorpark CA. I know where you live, muahahaha |
| 21:00.42 | Inferno | ok, thx |
| 21:00.46 | JeffM2501 | umm so |
| 21:01.18 | Inferno | what are the ranks all about? |
| 21:01.21 | Inferno | in the forums |
| 21:01.30 | JeffM2501 | what about them? |
| 21:01.48 | Inferno | how do you get the, how gives them... |
| 21:02.04 | Inferno | how do you get them, who gives them... |
| 21:02.10 | JeffM2501 | what is your forum name? |
| 21:02.29 | Inferno | Inferno |
| 21:04.19 | JeffM2501 | your a Recruit |
| 21:04.48 | Inferno | what's a recruit? |
| 21:04.54 | JeffM2501 | the lowest rank |
| 21:05.04 | JeffM2501 | everyone starts as one |
| 21:05.09 | JeffM2501 | well except for me |
| 21:05.20 | JeffM2501 | you have 0 posts |
| 21:05.26 | JeffM2501 | so that's what you start as |
| 21:05.38 | Inferno | ah |
| 21:05.53 | Inferno | do I get any advantages for a higher rank? |
| 21:05.58 | JeffM2501 | no |
| 21:06.03 | JeffM2501 | it's just post count |
| 21:06.04 | JeffM2501 | that's it |
| 21:06.05 | Aribeth | time for bootcamp recruit :P |
| 21:06.25 | JeffM2501 | if I was not special ranked I'd be a "Lieutenant General" by now |
| 21:06.30 | Inferno | I'm going to start posting random stuff! |
| 21:06.34 | JeffM2501 | but then if I wasn't special ranked I'd not post that much :) |
| 21:06.44 | JeffM2501 | Inferno, I hope you like geting baned then |
| 21:06.53 | Inferno | I was kidding, geez |
| 21:07.14 | Inferno | I've never been banned :) |
| 21:07.28 | JeffM2501 | I'd temper that with "yet" if I was you |
| 21:07.39 | Aribeth | oh oh |
| 21:07.49 | JeffM2501 | I'm just sayin ;) |
| 21:08.05 | Aribeth | i would duck inferno |
| 21:08.22 | JeffM2501 | naw he hasn't done anything wrong |
| 21:08.24 | JeffM2501 | yet |
| 21:08.41 | JeffM2501 | I'd be more then happy if he proved my steriotype wrong |
| 21:08.45 | Aribeth | just giveing him a heads up :P |
| 21:09.00 | Birdie | still not to bed aribeth?:) |
| 21:09.02 | Inferno | you mean heads down :) |
| 21:09.20 | Aribeth | .i did get to sleep at 6 am EDT |
| 21:09.38 | Aribeth | slept til almost 1 PM |
| 21:09.52 | Aribeth | :) |
| 21:09.58 | Inferno | Birdie, are you the bzmother? |
| 21:10.03 | Inferno | not to be mean |
| 21:10.17 | Aribeth | no, i am :P |
| 21:10.21 | JeffM2501 | god knows there's enough kids that we need one |
| 21:10.28 | Inferno | lol |
| 21:10.29 | JeffM2501 | or 4 |
| 21:10.29 | Birdie | i'm not old enough for that and the wrong sexe |
| 21:10.30 | Aribeth | hehe |
| 21:10.43 | Birdie | aribeth might have those capacities:) |
| 21:10.53 | Aribeth | well, im old enough and the right sex |
| 21:11.07 | Inferno | oh, that's like a flip :) |
| 21:11.21 | JeffM2501 | Aribeth, get the wooden spoon |
| 21:11.32 | Inferno | waaaaa |
| 21:11.55 | Aribeth | better than that, i;ll get a hickory stick |
| 21:12.45 | JeffM2501 | remember child services dosnt stand for visable marks |
| 21:13.00 | Aribeth | they wont be able to tell |
| 21:13.49 | Inferno | ?me starts rebels, muhaha |
| 21:14.20 | JeffM2501 | huh? |
| 21:14.47 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o Aribeth] by JeffM2501 |
| 21:14.54 | Inferno | AH O.O |
| 21:14.54 | Aribeth | hehe |
| 21:16.30 | Birdie | mothers always need powers:) |
| 21:17.13 | Aribeth | yep |
| 21:17.25 | Aribeth | he's quiet now |
| 21:17.43 | Birdie | afraid for kicking and banning from here:) |
| 21:17.54 | Aribeth | yep |
| 21:17.57 | Aribeth | :) |
| 21:18.33 | Inferno | ok, I'll be quiet so I don't give more rights to ladies :) |
| 21:18.46 | JeffM2501 | more rights? |
| 21:19.27 | Inferno | channel operater... |
| 21:19.37 | JeffM2501 | you don't give ops to anyone |
| 21:19.49 | JeffM2501 | and what's wrong with lady ops? |
| 21:20.01 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o orchid_] by JeffM2501 |
| 21:20.05 | JeffM2501 | :) |
| 21:20.06 | Birdie | hehe |
| 21:20.08 | Aribeth | :) |
| 21:20.15 | Birdie | ya in the normal part no girls with ops.. |
| 21:20.20 | JeffM2501 | they smell nicer then the other ops |
| 21:20.24 | Birdie | bzflag is a "male power" thing:) |
| 21:20.58 | JeffM2501 | it is? |
| 21:21.00 | Aribeth | grrrr |
| 21:21.16 | JeffM2501 | bzflag does not seem well suited for digital wang comparisons |
| 21:21.24 | ChipX86 | erm, it is? |
| 21:21.32 | ChipX86 | my girlfriend plays it and we've never thought it was male-power |
| 21:21.55 | ChipX86 | the only thing that's really come across our minds more than a couple times is how old we seem in comparison to the other players |
| 21:21.57 | Aribeth | lots of girls play bzflag |
| 21:22.08 | JeffM2501 | well you are thrusting your hot balls into unsuspecting opoinents |
| 21:22.08 | Birdie | yep |
| 21:22.13 | Inferno | yeah so? |
| 21:22.16 | *** join/#bzflag RPG_ (n=G-bus@c-24-15-87-171.hsd1.il.comcast.net) |
| 21:22.56 | JeffM2501 | Inferno, do you think girls are "icky" ? |
| 21:23.11 | Inferno | NO |
| 21:23.21 | Aribeth | how old are you inferno? |
| 21:23.29 | Birdie | oh i'm not the only one:) |
| 21:23.30 | JeffM2501 | 12-13 |
| 21:23.41 | Inferno | 15 |
| 21:23.44 | Birdie | close |
| 21:23.45 | Aribeth | ahh |
| 21:23.46 | JeffM2501 | sure skip |
| 21:23.48 | RPG_ | really? |
| 21:24.06 | JeffM2501 | ChipX86, busted a hip yet? |
| 21:24.10 | Aribeth | im 51 |
| 21:24.27 | Birdie | chip: how old are you? |
| 21:24.27 | ChipX86 | JeffM2501: not yet, but I'm walking to the cafeteria, so maybe in a sec |
| 21:24.30 | ChipX86 | speaking of which, meeting |
| 21:24.31 | ChipX86 | Birdie: 21 |
| 21:24.33 | JeffM2501 | heh |
| 21:24.38 | JeffM2501 | ChipX86, your a baby |
| 21:24.39 | Birdie | see thats not old |
| 21:24.40 | Birdie | i'm 20 |
| 21:24.43 | Aribeth | so im old enought o be your grandma inferno |
| 21:24.52 | Inferno | lol |
| 21:24.56 | RPG_ | hehe |
| 21:25.00 | ChipX86 | bbl |
| 21:25.09 | Inferno | my grandma usualy doesn't wack me on the head with sticks :) |
| 21:25.17 | JeffM2501 | maybe she should? |
| 21:25.23 | Inferno | no |
| 21:25.27 | RPG_ | it'd get some of the lead out :) |
| 21:25.28 | Inferno | I mean NO! |
| 21:25.37 | RPG_ | sorry i said that |
| 21:25.52 | JeffM2501 | but he means "DO" |
| 21:25.53 | Aribeth | it may help |
| 21:25.56 | Inferno | np, how old r u rpg? |
| 21:26.05 | RPG_ | 14 |
| 21:26.17 | JeffM2501 | featal tissues |
| 21:26.20 | RPG_ | but they put me in all these spcial honors classes |
| 21:26.33 | JeffM2501 | where they don't teach spelling |
| 21:26.47 | Inferno | I turned 14 like afew days ago |
| 21:26.51 | Inferno | I mean 15! |
| 21:27.11 | JeffM2501 | if you have to shout your age, your ether too young, or way too old :) |
| 21:27.18 | Aribeth | still just a kid inferno |
| 21:27.28 | Inferno | I know :) |
| 21:27.39 | JeffM2501 | do you count the 1/2 years? |
| 21:27.45 | Inferno | no? |
| 21:27.54 | JeffM2501 | well that's at least something ;) |
| 21:28.13 | Inferno | I think of myself as like 13-17 |
| 21:28.22 | JeffM2501 | Aribeth, why? your less then 1/2 over? |
| 21:28.26 | Aribeth | hummm....12 perhaps |
| 21:28.27 | RPG_ | so you're like 13 but have 17 year old friends? |
| 21:28.36 | Inferno | i'm 15 |
| 21:28.42 | JeffM2501 | we know Inferno |
| 21:28.51 | Aribeth | i like to think of it as im 20 for the 21 st time :) |
| 21:28.51 | Inferno | so I'm not 13 |
| 21:28.56 | JeffM2501 | you've said it like 5 time |
| 21:29.02 | bryjen | the cannon on the tank could be male symbolism |
| 21:29.06 | Birdie | so maybe he is 13:) |
| 21:29.07 | JeffM2501 | and didn' your mom tell you to not give out your age to strangers? |
| 21:29.21 | Aribeth | lol |
| 21:29.29 | JeffM2501 | bryjen, and you ENTER teleporters |
| 21:29.37 | JeffM2501 | and end up in an exciting new place |
| 21:29.53 | Aribeth | rofl |
| 21:30.02 | JeffM2501 | some people shoot before they get all the way in the teleporters too |
| 21:30.06 | blast007 | wow, I can tell this is going to be an interesting scrollback ;) |
| 21:30.09 | JeffM2501 | and don't know where it all ends up |
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| 21:31.00 | Birdie | oh oh |
| 21:31.09 | JeffM2501 | that's normal |
| 21:32.26 | JeffM2501 | heh |
| 21:32.31 | RPG_ | inferno: what was that? |
| 21:32.36 | Inferno | I donno |
| 21:32.39 | JeffM2501 | there are children present after all |
| 21:32.45 | JeffM2501 | a bat on a stand |
| 21:33.00 | JeffM2501 | he's worried that people are going to ban him |
| 21:33.16 | Birdie | the girls in particular:) |
| 21:33.23 | Aribeth | :) |
| 21:33.25 | JeffM2501 | they have coodies |
| 21:33.32 | RPG_ | *koodies |
| 21:33.39 | JeffM2501 | them too |
| 21:33.56 | Aribeth | lol |
| 21:34.01 | Inferno | ~coodies |
| 21:34.09 | Inferno | ~koodies |
| 21:34.12 | Inferno | ah |
| 21:34.14 | Aribeth | you wont like them |
| 21:34.49 | Aribeth | i think he's more afraid of my hickory stick :P |
| 21:35.27 | Inferno | no, I'm not |
| 21:35.43 | Inferno | :) |
| 21:36.45 | Aribeth | be afraid, be very afraid :) |
| 21:37.05 | Birdie | ya apperently you dont know her good:( |
| 21:37.30 | JeffM2501 | but then I have no reason to :) |
| 21:37.31 | Aribeth | :) |
| 21:37.52 | Inferno | that's good |
| 21:37.57 | Aribeth | inferno don't know me very well do he! |
| 21:38.12 | Inferno | well, sry Granny |
| 21:38.13 | RPG_ | aribeth, teach him with the wooden spoon |
| 21:38.23 | Inferno | woah, that's taking alot |
| 21:38.33 | JeffM2501 | where do they keep coming from? |
| 21:38.38 | JeffM2501 | seriously |
| 21:38.44 | JeffM2501 | it never used to be this bad |
| 21:38.54 | Aribeth | ya |
| 21:38.56 | JeffM2501 | I mean there was the ocasional cell, or hoda, but that's it |
| 21:39.12 | Aribeth | agreed jwffM2501 |
| 21:39.39 | JeffM2501 | I think it started with lildog |
| 21:39.47 | RPG_ | i'd say 18+ have been outnumbered 3:1 by under 18 people |
| 21:39.49 | Aribeth | ahh |
| 21:39.50 | Inferno | I've been playing for over 2 years |
| 21:40.00 | JeffM2501 | RPG_, not that much |
| 21:40.10 | JeffM2501 | I think its like 1:1 |
| 21:40.16 | Inferno | I've seen alot of 20's 30's |
| 21:40.23 | RPG_ | i'm talking about people who actively post on the BB |
| 21:40.24 | Birdie | bzflag is one of the only games the average age is that high though i think? |
| 21:40.30 | Inferno | not as much under 18 |
| 21:40.31 | JeffM2501 | tho the ratio of vocal 18-'s is larger then the vocal 18+s |
| 21:41.40 | JeffM2501 | looking in the dead horses mouth and stuff? |
| 21:41.53 | JeffM2501 | you can't get blood from a split beer |
| 21:42.01 | Inferno | haha |
| 21:42.04 | bryjen | ? |
| 21:42.30 | Aribeth | ROFLMAO! |
| 21:42.38 | JeffM2501 | or was that in refrence to the vocal 18-'s ?;) |
| 21:42.46 | JeffM2501 | when you shake them they clink |
| 21:43.19 | bryjen | split ? |
| 21:44.43 | bryjen | ah, spilt |
| 21:46.16 | JeffM2501 | spilled |
| 21:46.16 | JeffM2501 | slo0oshed |
| 21:46.20 | JeffM2501 | on da floor |
| 21:46.35 | JeffM2501 | the place where beer should not be |
| 21:46.56 | Aribeth | speaking of beer :) |
| 21:47.05 | bryjen | yes. not split, as in chopped in two with an ax |
| 21:47.18 | JeffM2501 | yes |
| 21:47.21 | JeffM2501 | I can't type |
| 21:47.23 | JeffM2501 | you know that :) |
| 21:47.34 | bryjen | although in may still end up on the floor that way |
| 21:47.44 | JeffM2501 | creative spillage |
| 21:51.41 | longhair | Just an update on global login on a private server: the line in the conf file to do it looks like: -advertise NONE It worked perfectly. Thanks! |
| 21:52.04 | JeffM2501 | cool |
| 21:55.58 | RPG_ | do you guys know naything about a /flagreset bug in the clietn? |
| 21:56.21 | RPG_ | just wanna see if you guys know before i doo some debugging on it |
| 22:03.12 | RPG_ | uh oh |
| 22:03.22 | RPG_ | *Dvn* has an accound on bzbb :P |
| 22:03.31 | RPG_ | http://my.bzflag.org/bb/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&u=2664 |
| 22:04.28 | JeffM2501 | what has he done wrong? |
| 22:06.10 | JeffM2501 | Inferno, please don't dredge up old topics |
| 22:06.24 | Inferno | ? |
| 22:06.24 | JeffM2501 | and ease up on the smileys |
| 22:06.29 | RPG_ | Jeff: seriously |
| 22:06.31 | JeffM2501 | if a topic has been unused for weeks |
| 22:06.36 | JeffM2501 | then it's dead |
| 22:06.46 | Inferno | oh, ok |
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| 22:07.00 | JeffM2501 | RPG_, I have heard some complaints, but it didn't sound like anything that local bans could not handle |
| 22:07.04 | Inferno | sry about that then? |
| 22:07.11 | Aribeth | hello learner |
| 22:07.24 | RPG_ | he's been banned on almost all the servers, 'cause of suspected cheating, repeatedly asking for admin, when he did get admin banning other admisn (3 cases of taht), and mouthing off |
| 22:07.34 | RPG_ | *he's been banned on almost all the MAJOR servers |
| 22:07.43 | Inferno | who's he? |
| 22:07.45 | Tupone | hey learner |
| 22:08.50 | JeffM2501 | how is he doing now? |
| 22:08.55 | JeffM2501 | has he toned it down? |
| 22:08.57 | RPG_ | dunno |
| 22:09.01 | RPG_ | havn't heard much |
| 22:09.08 | RPG_ | of couse, there's not that many places to hear him :) |
| 22:09.21 | JeffM2501 | so then local bans are working |
| 22:12.08 | JeffM2501 | and what do you just scan the memberlist? |
| 22:12.35 | Pimpinella | argh, meno and _Manu_ set default values for -a :/ |
| 22:12.59 | Pimpinella | do we really want that? it changes the game... |
| 22:13.07 | JeffM2501 | what is -a? |
| 22:13.29 | Pimpinella | adjusts maximun linear and angular acceleration |
| 22:13.45 | JeffM2501 | what are the new defaults, compared to the old defaults? |
| 22:14.02 | Pimpinella | it was not limited by default |
| 22:14.16 | Pimpinella | not it's 50 linear and 38 angular |
| 22:14.20 | JeffM2501 | now there is a limit imposed when you don't specify -a? |
| 22:14.28 | JeffM2501 | and -a just lets you set it? |
| 22:14.35 | Pimpinella | yep |
| 22:14.46 | JeffM2501 | does the commit message give a reason for it? |
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| 22:15.25 | Pimpinella | meno changed it together with another commit |
| 22:15.37 | Pimpinella | no comment about this special change |
| 22:15.58 | Pimpinella | it's because of the enhnced mouse thing |
| 22:16.03 | Pimpinella | enhanced |
| 22:16.36 | JeffM2501 | then maybe he didn't intend to commit it |
| 22:17.05 | Pimpinella | but, any serveradmin can add -a if he want's the settings |
| 22:17.11 | Pimpinella | so why defaults... |
| 22:17.12 | JeffM2501 | yes |
| 22:17.14 | Pimpinella | maybe |
| 22:17.20 | JeffM2501 | because server ops are somtimes dumb |
| 22:17.36 | JeffM2501 | I'm not against sane defaults, but best to only change on a major |
| 22:22.14 | JeffM2501 | Pimpinella, do you know when this was commited? |
| 22:22.26 | Pimpinella | yep... |
| 22:22.38 | JeffM2501 | when? |
| 22:22.57 | Pimpinella | looking for it, a second plz... |
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| 22:24.14 | trepan | http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/bzflag/bzflag/src/bzfs/CmdLineOptions.h?r1=2.13&r2=2.14 |
| 22:25.24 | Pimpinella | yep, thats it |
| 22:25.58 | trepan | tup also made a change so that -a is always stored into saved maps |
| 22:26.45 | JeffM2501 | why set default limits tho? |
| 22:26.59 | trepan | as opposed to the 0/0 defaults? |
| 22:27.10 | JeffM2501 | what did 0 mean tho? |
| 22:27.22 | Pimpinella | turned off |
| 22:27.34 | JeffM2501 | so 0 would be a valid default |
| 22:27.45 | JeffM2501 | maybe that caused problem in the map |
| 22:27.50 | JeffM2501 | if it did -a 0 0 |
| 22:28.02 | learner | hello Aribeth |
| 22:28.08 | trepan | doubt that that's the reason |
| 22:28.12 | learner | ciao Tupone |
| 22:28.31 | Pimpinella | which map? |
| 22:28.46 | JeffM2501 | I'm inclined to set them back to 0 just to keep it the same untill 2.2 |
| 22:28.52 | JeffM2501 | why freak people out now |
| 22:29.06 | JeffM2501 | unless it provides some benifit for anti-cheat in a "normal" game |
| 22:29.15 | JeffM2501 | if it does, then it should at least be doced |
| 22:29.38 | JeffM2501 | who picked the default numbers anyway |
| 22:29.50 | Pimpinella | they tried a lot |
| 22:30.05 | Pimpinella | to find useful values |
| 22:30.19 | JeffM2501 | if it's not going to be right in all cases, then it should be off untill a proper studdy can be done. |
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| 22:31.33 | Pimpinella | it's ok unless a server expilicitly wants EM |
| 22:31.48 | JeffM2501 | well we do have some defaults that are sane |
| 22:31.56 | JeffM2501 | like the GM times |
| 22:32.14 | RPG_ | ...but not MG rangs |
| 22:32.16 | RPG_ | *range |
| 22:32.16 | JeffM2501 | I can see making the server check for limits by default |
| 22:32.19 | Chestal | I think I agree on returnign back to 0 |
| 22:32.24 | JeffM2501 | but we have to make sure it's as bast as we can |
| 22:32.27 | JeffM2501 | I am changin it now |
| 22:32.33 | Chestal | those values are almost indistinguishable from 0 for normal tank speeds |
| 22:32.41 | Chestal | but if you make very fast tanks, the inertia will begin to show |
| 22:32.43 | learner | what does setting that angular tolerance get admins? aside from just changing the default to something different? |
| 22:32.56 | Chestal | for normal tank speeds this accounts for about 0.03s for a full change I think |
| 22:33.27 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/src/bzfs/CmdLineOptions.h: set ang defaults back to 0, if we want to change them lets eval why and whatnot in the next major, not this close to release |
| 22:33.35 | Chestal | the units are a bit arbitrary |
| 22:33.53 | JeffM2501 | if they had to "play" with the values then that tells me it's not really understood |
| 22:33.57 | Chestal | in a future version it migh tbe better to normalize them to a 0...1 speed scale or something |
| 22:34.01 | JeffM2501 | and should not be changed untill it is understood |
| 22:34.06 | JeffM2501 | yeah eactly |
| 22:34.28 | JeffM2501 | understand THEN change :) |
| 22:34.43 | Chestal | meno tried a lot of values to use on a server. I later looked at formulas and calced values for linear and rotation, so you coudl change in 0.02s (or similar number) from full back to full forward |
| 22:34.52 | Pimpinella | are these values units/seconds^2 ? |
| 22:35.02 | Chestal | those are probably the values (or similar ones) |
| 22:35.10 | Chestal | yes, but scaled |
| 22:35.15 | Chestal | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:35.16 | Chestal | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:35.26 | Chestal | linear is scaled by magic value of 20 |
| 22:35.39 | Pimpinella | hm |
| 22:35.46 | Chestal | angular isn't scaled |
| 22:36.27 | JeffM2501 | they are just clamps used by the clients? |
| 22:36.35 | learner | not magic, scaled by the acc |
| 22:36.42 | learner | just capping the limit there |
| 22:36.53 | learner | magic cap, perhaps :) |
| 22:37.04 | Chestal | ehm, there is no cap, the inertia is the cap |
| 22:37.09 | Chestal | the 20 is magic IMHO |
| 22:37.11 | Chestal | why 20? |
| 22:37.29 | Chestal | it's just an arbitrary scale value |
| 22:37.54 | Chestal | probably uses to get linear and angular to about the same scale |
| 22:37.56 | learner | someone probably thought "they'll never want/need to accel any faster than 20 times.. " .. yeah |
| 22:39.00 | learner | actually, probably to prevent the superaccelerations that come across the wire |
| 22:39.28 | Chestal | uhm? |
| 22:39.30 | learner | i recall there being some issue that made that hack fix the problem |
| 22:39.59 | Chestal | at least one of us is confused :-) |
| 22:40.00 | learner | but yeah.. was just an arbitrary limit |
| 22:40.07 | Chestal | there is no limit |
| 22:40.20 | Chestal | you can specify any inertia values you want |
| 22:40.37 | Chestal | and if you use anything >0, it limits the max acceleration of tanks |
| 22:41.17 | learner | eh, limits the max acceleration .. that's the arbitrary limit |
| 22:41.42 | Chestal | but it's specified by the user as a parameter. Or are you talkign about the non-zero values that were added to CVS recently? |
| 22:41.48 | Chestal | and not about the code? |
| 22:41.55 | Chestal | (the code above) |
| 22:41.56 | learner | where are you looking at code? |
| 22:42.09 | Chestal | I pasted two lines, the ones with the magic 20 in them |
| 22:42.14 | learner | s/at/at in the/ |
| 22:42.27 | trepan | LocalPlayer.cxx |
| 22:43.28 | Chestal | and I was talking about that 20, whiel you were obviously talking about the change in bzfs |
| 22:43.46 | learner | no, I mean the 20 :) |
| 22:43.59 | learner | 20 * linearacc is a bit arbitrary is all i was saying |
| 22:44.25 | learner | as you said.. why 20 |
| 22:44.41 | learner | why not 200 or 5 or 21 |
| 22:44.42 | Chestal | yes, but its not a limit :-) |
| 22:45.09 | learner | sure it is, it's the limit on 'acc' |
| 22:45.10 | Chestal | it#s just a scale factor, and it brings the linear -a value to about the same scale as the angular one effectively, but only roughly |
| 22:45.29 | learner | if acc is great than that limit, it's capped to 20 * linearacc |
| 22:45.36 | Chestal | 20*linearacc is the limit, yes |
| 22:45.44 | Chestal | where linearacc is -a server option |
| 22:46.13 | learner | ah |
| 22:46.41 | RPG_ | JeffM2501: What eNum/define do i use now for getting the team chat numbers in the API? |
| 22:46.57 | Chestal | at least the man page is honest and admits that the values are arbitrary :-) |
| 22:48.10 | JeffM2501 | RPG_, you don't |
| 22:48.22 | JeffM2501 | check the team member of the chat message |
| 22:48.32 | JeffM2501 | if it's not eNoTeam then it's a team message |
| 22:48.45 | RPG_ | but a team message for *which* team? |
| 22:48.51 | JeffM2501 | *sigh*( |
| 22:48.54 | JeffM2501 | the value of team |
| 22:49.24 | JeffM2501 | if it's not eNoTeam, then it's set to the team it's too |
| 22:58.23 | JeffM2501 | anyone know who "trigger happy" is? |
| 22:58.31 | RPG_ | kindof |
| 22:58.36 | RPG_ | i've seen him play |
| 22:58.40 | JeffM2501 | he a kid? |
| 22:58.44 | RPG_ | seems like it |
| 22:58.54 | RPG_ | all cocky and jumpy and stuff |
| 22:59.14 | RPG_ | what's his troubles? |
| 22:59.15 | JeffM2501 | I sent him a "don't dredge" PM and did not get back a favorable responce |
| 22:59.27 | RPG_ | a swear note? |
| 22:59.31 | JeffM2501 | no |
| 22:59.31 | RPG_ | hahaha |
| 23:02.28 | JeffM2501 | I'm tempted to pull the DVN thread, it was started by a kid, seems everyone has taken care of him, and is only going to be flamebait |
| 23:03.15 | RPG_ | did you do anything to the bzAPIString, because this line is crashing the server every tiem: |
| 23:03.15 | RPG_ | std::string logtext = ((bz_ChatEventData*)eventData)->message.c_str(); |
| 23:03.33 | JeffM2501 | what is event data? |
| 23:03.46 | JeffM2501 | oh nevermind |
| 23:03.51 | RPG_ | yea |
| 23:03.51 | JeffM2501 | nope that should be fine |
| 23:03.52 | RPG_ | passed to me |
| 23:03.57 | blast007 | geeez, is trigger happy's avatar big enough? :) |
| 23:03.58 | JeffM2501 | step on thru |
| 23:04.06 | RPG_ | ((bz_ChatEventData*)eventData)->to |
| 23:04.06 | RPG_ | passes fine |
| 23:04.13 | RPG_ | i did step through, that's how i found the line |
| 23:04.19 | JeffM2501 | I don't see an avatar for him |
| 23:04.27 | JeffM2501 | step INTO the line |
| 23:04.30 | JeffM2501 | see what makes it die |
| 23:04.48 | RPG_ | do you know the keybard shortcut for stepping into? |
| 23:04.53 | JeffM2501 | f11 |
| 23:05.57 | RPG_ | it's in xstring |
| 23:06.04 | RPG_ | made it through bzfsapi.cxx |
| 23:06.14 | RPG_ | const _Elem *_Myptr() const |
| 23:06.14 | RPG_ | {// determine current pointer to buffer for nonmutable string |
| 23:06.14 | RPG_ | return (_BUF_SIZE <= _Myres ? _Bx._Ptr : _Bx._Buf); |
| 23:06.14 | RPG_ | } |
| 23:06.19 | RPG_ | stops at the return line |
| 23:06.38 | JeffM2501 | is message returning anything real? |
| 23:07.07 | RPG_ | +_Bx._Buf0xccccccd0 <Bad Ptr>char [16] |
| 23:07.31 | JeffM2501 | that would be a bad pointer |
| 23:07.42 | JeffM2501 | message isn't set to antying real |
| 23:07.55 | RPG_ | oh... message |
| 23:09.17 | RPG_ | +message{data=0x00cce090 {str={"howdy"} } }bzApiString |
| 23:09.23 | RPG_ | so yes, there is something there |
| 23:09.35 | JeffM2501 | then one woudl think it would copy fine |
| 23:10.31 | RPG_ | Access violation reading location 0xcccccce4. |
| 23:10.40 | RPG_ | every time it runs, it gets that |
| 23:10.45 | RPG_ | now, the plugin worked fine yesterdya |
| 23:10.49 | RPG_ | and today, I din't change anything |
| 23:11.15 | RPG_ | i just re-complied |
| 23:12.20 | JeffM2501 | did you update all your sources and rebuild your libs? |
| 23:12.28 | JeffM2501 | since I changed the API yesterday |
| 23:14.46 | JeffM2501 | how did the "admin super powers" thread turn into an set of enhancment requests and masterbot stuff? |
| 23:15.06 | RPG_ | uhhhhh |
| 23:15.15 | RPG_ | they wanted admins to be able to read PM's |
| 23:15.25 | JeffM2501 | then you guys like ran with it |
| 23:15.26 | RPG_ | so it got into the MB PM-reading thingy |
| 23:16.54 | JeffM2501 | its' like the "new topic" button is freaking invisible |
| 23:17.16 | Birdie | its for the forum moderator to put that in a new topic;) |
| 23:17.28 | JeffM2501 | I'm not your damned baby sitter |
| 23:18.19 | JeffM2501 | much easer to just lop off the thread where it went OT, if the rest was important enough, i'll get remade into a real topic :) |
| 23:20.28 | JeffM2501 | RPG_, is there anything old in the meterioite forum that needs to be saved? |
| 23:21.22 | *** join/#bzflag wizart (n=wizart@dsl-084-058-143-226.arcor-ip.net) |
| 23:21.54 | JeffM2501 | guess not |
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| 23:35.29 | RPG_ | uhh |
| 23:35.31 | RPG_ | i'm bacnk |
| 23:35.35 | RPG_ | doesn't it show that i'm away? |
| 23:36.12 | RPG_ | hi |
| 23:36.20 | RPG_ | wrong window |
| 23:37.51 | RPG_ | the toppics are gone |
| 23:41.18 | trepan | dict bloodcurdling |
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| 23:42.08 | learner | it's a game.. where you slid blood-moistened balls down an icey path |
| 23:42.36 | Aribeth | ROFL |
| 23:43.01 | RPG_ | haha |