| 00:20.50 | silverfx | uname -a \n SunOS 5.8 Generic_108528-29 sun4u sparc SUNW,Ultra-80 |
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| 00:25.14 | menotume | ahhh, I have been UPSed |
| 00:25.15 | DTRemenak | silverfx: is there a question or comment that should be attached to that statement? |
| 00:28.31 | menotume | power removed. let's hope i get a graceful showdown in 12 minutes |
| 00:29.09 | menotume | and closes all windows except xchat :) |
| 00:31.32 | menotume | any1 here have an APC UPS ? |
| 00:36.06 | menotume | ahhh, nvm, has a 3 minute timeout on -killpower, ug |
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| 01:11.34 | JeffM2501 | now the joy of building the new beastie |
| 01:13.59 | CIA-2 | BZFlag: 03brlcad * 10bzflag/src/bzfs/Makefile.am: build libBZFSplugin.la for loading plugins dynamically. This provides a simple library wrapper that the plugins can use to resolve api symbols against. |
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| 01:15.41 | JeffM2501 | damn 8 USB ports, a firewire and one port I've never seen before |
| 01:15.56 | menotume | what, only one firewire? :) |
| 01:16.00 | RPG_ | never seen before? |
| 01:16.30 | JeffM2501 | no |
| 01:16.36 | menotume | digital sound ? |
| 01:16.49 | menotume | does it have dolby 5.1 built-in ? |
| 01:17.03 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 01:17.15 | menotume | could be that |
| 01:17.16 | JeffM2501 | 6 total audio outputs |
| 01:17.23 | CIA-2 | BZFlag: 03brlcad * 10bzflag/plugins/python/python.cpp: python 2.3 requires compile.h and eval.h on at least os x |
| 01:17.26 | RPG_ | then it's not optical |
| 01:17.30 | JeffM2501 | no |
| 01:17.34 | JeffM2501 | I know optical |
| 01:17.37 | JeffM2501 | looking it up |
| 01:17.37 | menotume | either like a single-rca jack (spdif), or optical |
| 01:17.38 | RPG_ | oh |
| 01:17.40 | menotume | ahh |
| 01:17.43 | JeffM2501 | betting it's mini firewire |
| 01:17.51 | RPG_ | mini firewire? |
| 01:18.01 | menotume | smoulderwire ? |
| 01:19.05 | JeffM2501 | yeah it's gotta be another type of firewire |
| 01:19.11 | JeffM2501 | maybe firewire2 or something |
| 01:19.19 | JeffM2501 | ton of little things with it |
| 01:19.38 | menotume | which mobo did you get ? |
| 01:20.11 | JeffM2501 | gigabyte K8n pro-sli |
| 01:20.58 | menotume | yay AMD |
| 01:21.31 | JeffM2501 | now THAT is a heatsync of ultimage justice |
| 01:21.37 | menotume | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Showimage.asp?Mode=&Type=&Image=13-128-301-01.jpg%2C13-128-301-02.jpg%2C13-128-301-03.jpg%2C13-128-301-04.jpg%2C13-128-301-05.jpg&CurImage=13-128-301-01.jpg&Description=GIGABYTE+GA-K8N+Pro-SLI+Socket+939+NVIDIA+nForce4+SLI+ATX+AMD+Motherboard+-+Retail |
| 01:21.46 | menotume | eww, nice url |
| 01:22.05 | RPG_ | those red and yellow ports? |
| 01:22.14 | RPG_ | oh... |
| 01:22.15 | JeffM2501 | dono what they are |
| 01:22.15 | RPG_ | i see it |
| 01:22.19 | menotume | dvi ? |
| 01:22.20 | RPG_ | above the 2 USB's |
| 01:22.21 | JeffM2501 | but on the rizers |
| 01:22.25 | JeffM2501 | there are 6 more ports |
| 01:22.25 | menotume | ohhh |
| 01:22.28 | RPG_ | that's nice |
| 01:22.34 | RPG_ | i got the cheap gigabyte oine |
| 01:22.36 | JeffM2501 | on the card slot things |
| 01:22.46 | RPG_ | yea |
| 01:22.50 | RPG_ | never seen that either |
| 01:23.16 | JeffM2501 | the RCAs are SPDIF in and out |
| 01:24.26 | menotume | you have 2 firewires :) |
| 01:24.34 | JeffM2501 | I guess so |
| 01:24.44 | RPG_ | wow |
| 01:24.45 | RPG_ | 6 audio |
| 01:24.46 | JeffM2501 | and tiny little CPU |
| 01:24.51 | menotume | probably one external for front panel |
| 01:24.57 | RPG_ | 939? |
| 01:25.03 | JeffM2501 | ya |
| 01:25.53 | JeffM2501 | no, the other firewire port is right on the back on the card thingys |
| 01:26.34 | RPG_ | you get 2 AGP slots? |
| 01:26.50 | RPG_ | is that thing between them a PCI express slot? |
| 01:27.42 | menotume | dual-bios, yikes |
| 01:27.54 | menotume | 8-channel audio |
| 01:27.55 | RPG_ | even i got that |
| 01:27.59 | RPG_ | the dual-bios |
| 01:28.03 | menotume | does it have a microwave built-in too ? |
| 01:28.03 | RPG_ | not the 8 channel |
| 01:28.06 | RPG_ | lol |
| 01:28.14 | JeffM2501 | RPG_, the SLI selector |
| 01:28.14 | blast007 | menotume: that's an add-on ;) |
| 01:28.27 | menotume | ahh |
| 01:28.35 | RPG_ | how much did that put you back? |
| 01:28.45 | menotume | $109 on newegg |
| 01:28.51 | menotume | mobo only |
| 01:28.52 | RPG_ | wow |
| 01:28.54 | RPG_ | tha'ts it? |
| 01:29.01 | menotume | no processor or ram |
| 01:29.10 | RPG_ | i think i paaid $250 for mobo and 3000+ atahalon 64bit |
| 01:29.17 | JeffM2501 | I got it for 119 at a local store |
| 01:29.26 | JeffM2501 | RPG_, my CPU cost more then that |
| 01:29.27 | menotume | thta's a good price |
| 01:29.32 | RPG_ | what CPU? |
| 01:29.38 | RPG_ | i got all my stuff at a local computer show |
| 01:29.40 | JeffM2501 | 3800+ X2 |
| 01:29.44 | RPG_ | wow |
| 01:29.50 | RPG_ | what's it rated at? |
| 01:30.04 | JeffM2501 | I dono |
| 01:30.19 | RPG_ | 64bit? |
| 01:30.30 | JeffM2501 | umm yeah man |
| 01:30.39 | JeffM2501 | that's the dual core one |
| 01:30.48 | RPG_ | wow |
| 01:31.06 | RPG_ | heh |
| 01:31.21 | RPG_ | i'm gotta drill a big hole in the top ofmy case to fit another fan |
| 01:31.26 | RPG_ | GFX card gets up to 150 F |
| 01:31.54 | blast007 | RPG_: http://www.techwarelabs.com/reviews/processors/amd3800_x2/ |
| 01:32.01 | blast007 | lots of specs there :) |
| 01:32.07 | JeffM2501 | thse have huge heatsyncs |
| 01:32.10 | JeffM2501 | and are fanless |
| 01:32.29 | RPG_ | falness? |
| 01:32.36 | JeffM2501 | fanless |
| 01:32.46 | orange | lanfess? |
| 01:32.46 | RPG_ | wow |
| 01:32.50 | RPG_ | heh |
| 01:33.22 | menotume | huh? no LAN ? |
| 01:33.25 | menotume | lanless? |
| 01:33.40 | JeffM2501 | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:33.49 | menotume | yes :) |
| 01:34.02 | RPG_ | really? |
| 01:34.04 | RPG_ | i dont' see a lan |
| 01:34.08 | CIA-2 | BZFlag: 03brlcad * 10bzflag/plugins/python/Makefile.am: use the new libBZFSplugin library and give instructions and the extra magic needed for mac os x just needs to be uncommented for now until the right configure checks can be added for python |
| 01:34.43 | menotume | isn't it with the 2 usbs ? |
| 01:35.05 | JeffM2501 | ya |
| 01:35.09 | blast007 | supposedly the 3800+ X2 overclocks pretty good too: http://www.techspot.com/news/18594-dual-core-overclocking-the-3800-x2.html |
| 01:35.37 | CIA-2 | BZFlag: 03brlcad * 10bzflag/plugins/ (9 files in 9 dirs): |
| 01:35.39 | CIA-2 | BZFlag: build the plugins as proper modules now and resolve symbols against the |
| 01:35.41 | CIA-2 | BZFlag: libBZFSplugin library. since we're using -module, the lib prefix is no longer |
| 01:35.43 | CIA-2 | BZFlag: required and will generate .so's for all platforms. the -avoid-version flag |
| 01:35.45 | CIA-2 | BZFlag: prevents the usual library version suffixes which are also not necessary since |
| 01:35.47 | CIA-2 | BZFlag: these are plugins |
| 01:35.55 | menotume | should'a just got the FX57 |
| 01:36.04 | JeffM2501 | wanted the dual core |
| 01:36.11 | menotume | $1100 for the processor :) |
| 01:36.13 | JeffM2501 | and the 57 is DAMNed spensive |
| 01:36.27 | JeffM2501 | 379 for mine |
| 01:36.33 | brlcad | there, that should fix the plugins linkage symbols and be a better more consistent plugin now |
| 01:36.53 | brlcad | "works for me" |
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| 01:38.54 | JeffM2501 | this computer is going to be HEAVY |
| 01:39.16 | orange | better get a good shoulder srap |
| 01:39.18 | orange | strap |
| 01:39.58 | JeffM2501 | never goes anywhere |
| 01:41.05 | JeffM2501 | oh I'm sorry Mr. 400W powersupply, you just won't do :) |
| 01:42.48 | RPG_ | lol |
| 01:42.58 | RPG_ | making the ultimate machine? |
| 01:43.10 | JeffM2501 | no |
| 01:43.13 | JeffM2501 | just my computer |
| 01:43.16 | JeffM2501 | got a 480 |
| 01:43.58 | RPG_ | i suppose the case has tons of lighting and windows and fans |
| 01:44.13 | RPG_ | with that CPU, itd be embarassing not to have the works |
| 01:44.33 | menotume | it's hard to find a fan withOUT lights now |
| 01:44.38 | JeffM2501 | it has a wingow |
| 01:44.43 | JeffM2501 | and 4 fans |
| 01:44.44 | JeffM2501 | all glow |
| 01:58.00 | RPG_ | I'm struggling with this; what am I doing wrong in this statement; my goal is to create a bzAPIStringList named "params" |
| 01:58.00 | RPG_ | params = new bzAPIStringList(); |
| 01:58.27 | menotume | wingow-XP ? |
| 01:58.36 | RPG_ | VC++ |
| 01:59.12 | JeffM2501 | what is params? |
| 01:59.13 | menotume | what is params declared as ? |
| 01:59.21 | RPG_ | hasn't been delcared |
| 01:59.32 | JeffM2501 | then that is what is wrong |
| 01:59.32 | menotume | bzAPIStringList params = new bzAPIStringList(); |
| 01:59.35 | JeffM2501 | no |
| 01:59.37 | JeffM2501 | it's a * |
| 01:59.39 | JeffM2501 | not a list |
| 01:59.40 | RPG_ | menotume, doesn't work |
| 01:59.40 | menotume | ohh |
| 01:59.45 | JeffM2501 | pointer |
| 01:59.49 | JeffM2501 | LEANR C RPG! |
| 02:00.53 | menotume | or, learn RPG II |
| 02:01.00 | RPG_ | RPG II? |
| 02:01.06 | menotume | it's a language :) |
| 02:01.13 | RPG_ | this is how i learn :) |
| 02:03.16 | JeffM2501 | no |
| 02:03.21 | JeffM2501 | this is how you fumble |
| 02:06.23 | RPG_ | ohhh, I have to use params->get(i) now instead of params[i] |
| 02:06.38 | JeffM2501 | well yeah |
| 02:06.45 | JeffM2501 | does it have a [] operator? |
| 02:07.01 | RPG_ | gave me errors every time i used [] |
| 02:07.09 | RPG_ | racetoseven.cpp(424) : error C2676: binary '==' : 'bzAPIStringList' does not define this operator or a conversion to a type acceptable to the predefined operator |
| 02:07.28 | JeffM2501 | do you even LOOK at the at the definitions of functions you use? |
| 02:07.39 | RPG_ | yes |
| 02:07.59 | JeffM2501 | then you'd see what it has |
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| 02:14.32 | RPG_ | i'm getting a bunch of stuff like this: "racetoseven.cpp(434) : error C2679: binary '+=' : no operator found which takes a right-hand operand of type 'bzApiString' (or there is no acceptable conversion) |
| 02:14.32 | RPG_ | " |
| 02:15.01 | RPG_ | trying to put params[3] into an std::string |
| 02:16.03 | JeffM2501 | because there is no += to a std::string |
| 02:16.07 | JeffM2501 | use the c_str() part |
| 02:16.34 | RPG_ | i've been using "std::string += "text"" in the entire plugin |
| 02:16.51 | RPG_ | take this line |
| 02:16.51 | RPG_ | mod_text += params[3]; |
| 02:16.57 | RPG_ | mod_text is a std::string |
| 02:19.04 | JeffM2501 | and what is params? |
| 02:19.14 | RPG_ | a tokenized bzAPIString |
| 02:19.37 | JeffM2501 | so a bzAPIString or a string list? |
| 02:19.45 | RPG_ | line: |
| 02:19.46 | RPG_ | bzAPIStringList *params = new bzAPIStringList(); |
| 02:19.46 | RPG_ | params->tokenize(_message.c_str(), " "); |
| 02:19.53 | JeffM2501 | so it's a string list |
| 02:19.56 | RPG_ | yes |
| 02:20.02 | JeffM2501 | 1) string list dosn't have a [] |
| 02:20.22 | JeffM2501 | 2) the string inside ISN"T a std::string or a "THING" |
| 02:20.25 | JeffM2501 | this is NOT php\ |
| 02:20.56 | menotume | it's getting there |
| 02:20.56 | menotume | compared to C string manipulation |
| 02:20.56 | JeffM2501 | mod_text += params->get(3).c_str(); |
| 02:21.13 | JeffM2501 | RPG_, you have totaly skiped the basics of the language |
| 02:27.59 | JeffM2501 | damn that's a lot in one case :) |
| 02:28.45 | menotume | stuff it in there |
| 02:28.54 | menotume | sit on the lid to close it :) |
| 02:30.14 | JeffM2501 | 10 USB ports total |
| 02:30.23 | menotume | eeeep |
| 02:30.28 | RPG_ | gonna use 'em all? |
| 02:30.40 | JeffM2501 | I'll use at least 5 |
| 02:32.18 | menotume | JeffM2501: http://www.thinkgeek.com/gadgets/electronic/6984/ |
| 02:33.02 | menotume | or, if you're a smoker, get the USB ashtray :) |
| 02:34.20 | JeffM2501 | meno I have 2 real ones |
| 02:34.24 | JeffM2501 | a 29 and a 60 |
| 02:35.09 | menotume | :) |
| 02:35.17 | menotume | bet they aren't USB :) |
| 02:36.40 | JeffM2501 | no they take a full outlet :) |
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| 03:12.32 | brlcad | [A[Ba[Csdfasd[A[B |
| 03:14.04 | orange | no way! |
| 03:14.52 | JeffM2501 | that was the fastest windows install I have EVER done |
| 03:18.59 | brlcad | whaa, oops ;) |
| 03:19.47 | bryjen | cat /dev/random > brlcad |
| 03:20.25 | brlcad | should see most all my other irssi windows |
| 03:21.00 | brlcad | nickserv didn't seem to mind too much, fortunately |
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| 04:27.40 | purple_cow | JeffM2501: what do they do? |
| 04:28.27 | JeffM2501 | the vid cards I got support HD out |
| 04:28.44 | JeffM2501 | so they go into a little din 9 and come out with SVid, HD and AV |
| 04:29.43 | JeffM2501 | and each card came with a DVI adapter too |
| 04:30.02 | JeffM2501 | guess I can do 4 displays if I wanted now :) |
| 04:30.44 | JeffM2501 | and 2 copys of "theif" |
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| 04:43.15 | I_Died_Once | I want to ask a question, but I am afraid I will offend someone by asking. |
| 04:43.44 | JeffM2501 | is it about poop? |
| 04:44.08 | I_Died_Once | Man, you just made me spit Mountain Dew on my monitor |
| 04:44.11 | I_Died_Once | but thanks for the laugh |
| 04:44.45 | I_Died_Once | If it WAS about poop, would you be qualified to answer? |
| 04:45.00 | JeffM2501 | I have some knowledge of it |
| 04:45.05 | JeffM2501 | what did you wish to ask? |
| 04:45.18 | JeffM2501 | it's late, offending people is harder now :) |
| 04:45.30 | I_Died_Once | I asked twice yesterday about plugins being broken in CVS, I pissed of brlcad and blast007 |
| 04:45.48 | JeffM2501 | yeah, they were working on the problem at the time |
| 04:45.52 | I_Died_Once | But I think they hate me reardless |
| 04:45.59 | I_Died_Once | *regardless |
| 04:46.11 | JeffM2501 | well it does get annoying asking all the time, when we don't know when i's to be fixed |
| 04:46.19 | purple_cow | I_Died_Once: hating you does seem likely |
| 04:46.44 | I_Died_Once | now I got people I've never spoken to ever telling me they hate me too |
| 04:46.54 | JeffM2501 | wierd |
| 04:48.24 | JeffM2501 | I have found that people need something to hate |
| 04:50.22 | I_Died_Once | They need SOMETHING |
| 04:52.04 | JeffM2501 | who is yelling at you? |
| 04:52.26 | I_Died_Once | everyone yells at me |
| 04:52.35 | JeffM2501 | well that's normal |
| 04:52.38 | JeffM2501 | you run a server |
| 04:52.58 | I_Died_Once | it cramps my style and game time |
| 04:53.10 | JeffM2501 | that's why cosmos quit |
| 04:53.47 | I_Died_Once | When you run a server like mine on your home cable connection, it affects it if you play somewhere else while hosting. |
| 04:53.58 | I_Died_Once | I can understand that about cosmos |
| 04:54.26 | I_Died_Once | You know I like to cut the shit in here and on the boards, but people pick at your damn nerves |
| 04:54.39 | purple_cow | I_Died_Once: language |
| 04:54.50 | I_Died_Once | that guy dvn needs to be shot |
| 04:55.42 | I_Died_Once | we should put him on the banlist with the reason : Not cool enbough to play |
| 04:55.51 | I_Died_Once | *enough |
| 04:56.12 | JeffM2501 | is it just your server? |
| 04:56.18 | I_Died_Once | No |
| 04:56.28 | I_Died_Once | He was at Tropican's yesterday doing it |
| 04:56.30 | JeffM2501 | I haven't heard any other complaints |
| 04:56.31 | DTRemenak | JeffM2501: dynamic address |
| 04:56.37 | I_Died_Once | asking me about mine, and Trop about his |
| 04:56.44 | I_Died_Once | at the same time on the admin channel |
| 04:56.48 | DTRemenak | I've banned his range too |
| 04:56.49 | JeffM2501 | oh |
| 04:56.50 | JeffM2501 | ok |
| 04:56.58 | JeffM2501 | you pull his global login? |
| 04:57.07 | DTRemenak | nope |
| 04:57.13 | I_Died_Once | He is an ass hat among ass hats. |
| 04:57.17 | JeffM2501 | that's the first thing I do |
| 04:57.18 | DTRemenak | apparently he is welcome some places |
| 04:57.27 | JeffM2501 | how many complaints? |
| 04:57.32 | I_Died_Once | Hey DTR, How are ya |
| 04:57.43 | DTRemenak | I'm pretty well, thanks |
| 04:57.47 | orange | dvn... haven't seen him |
| 04:58.02 | I_Died_Once | aka dvinkler |
| 04:58.08 | DTRemenak | JeffM2501: from my admins? too many. from others? just a couple. |
| 04:58.12 | I_Died_Once | or dvnklr |
| 04:58.24 | orange | does he also go by redbull? |
| 04:58.29 | I_Died_Once | yeah |
| 04:58.39 | I_Died_Once | he's got a good seven or eight he uses |
| 04:58.47 | orange | ok, some have seen him on silvercat... tough to ban as I heard |
| 04:58.52 | I_Died_Once | You'd think he would be smart enought NOT to go: |
| 04:58.54 | JeffM2501 | well if you want you can pull his global DTRemenak |
| 04:59.00 | JeffM2501 | it's a way to get em off the reg onlys |
| 04:59.01 | DTRemenak | he'll just make another |
| 04:59.10 | I_Died_Once | HEY! CAN I BE ADMIN! I JUST *L*O*V*E* THIS PLACE! |
| 04:59.13 | DTRemenak | this way he's at least fairly identifyable |
| 04:59.17 | DTRemenak | yup, that's the guy |
| 04:59.18 | JeffM2501 | you can ban his subnet on bzbb, and kill his mail hosts |
| 04:59.21 | JeffM2501 | makes it harder |
| 04:59.46 | orange | use a cleaver not a scalpel |
| 04:59.51 | orange | he seems to have a lot of subnets |
| 04:59.52 | I_Died_Once | Would we ever take things so far as to contact anyone's ISP? |
| 04:59.56 | DTRemenak | other people play from the same subnet(s) |
| 05:00.04 | JeffM2501 | how many mail addys does he have then |
| 05:00.10 | DTRemenak | no idea |
| 05:00.19 | DTRemenak | but how hard are email addresses to get? |
| 05:00.20 | JeffM2501 | other thing to do is put the board into admin aproval mode if he makes more :) |
| 05:00.24 | DTRemenak | heh |
| 05:00.27 | JeffM2501 | depends how smart he is |
| 05:00.38 | I_Died_Once | That, is honestly, a good question |
| 05:00.40 | JeffM2501 | and how many servers are reg only |
| 05:00.52 | orange | I_Died_Once: I think someone started down that road (contacting ISP's) about one or two people |
| 05:00.56 | I_Died_Once | I think he's manic depressive |
| 05:00.57 | orange | I don't think anything came of it |
| 05:01.12 | orange | JeffM2501: popular public servers? None that I know of |
| 05:01.16 | JeffM2501 | I_Died_Once, I think you give him exactly what he wants when you react to him |
| 05:01.27 | DTRemenak | I honestly don't care much about him anymore. he's not able to join my servers so I don't get more complaints. he's not a cheater and he follows most of the rules |
| 05:01.38 | I_Died_Once | I don;t give that guy any attention anymore |
| 05:01.39 | orange | though I think we've been seeing >75% registered users recently |
| 05:01.43 | I_Died_Once | not in forever |
| 05:01.44 | JeffM2501 | then local bans will take care of him |
| 05:02.06 | I_Died_Once | I mute kick and ban subsequently |
| 05:02.08 | JeffM2501 | yay for the 50th restart |
| 05:02.14 | orange | we need permamute -- and stealth permamute (doesn't tell the guy he is muted) |
| 05:02.31 | I_Died_Once | What orange said |
| 05:02.34 | DTRemenak | JeffM2501: having fun with windows :) |
| 05:02.37 | JeffM2501 | code it up |
| 05:02.40 | JeffM2501 | DTRemenak, lots of installs |
| 05:02.59 | DTRemenak | JeffM2501: on *some* operating systems, you don't have to restart after installing stuff :) |
| 05:03.01 | orange | I've been coding a little here and there, but that one might be beyond my reach |
| 05:03.02 | JeffM2501 | chipset drivers are now up to date |
| 05:03.09 | I_Died_Once | I wanna take the RPG school of C++ crash course in coding |
| 05:03.11 | JeffM2501 | DTRemenak, I know, but I'm not installing that one yet |
| 05:03.14 | DTRemenak | xp is way better than windows used to be, thank goodness |
| 05:03.15 | orange | though I could just steal the ban code :-) |
| 05:03.42 | JeffM2501 | now for updates and DC9 |
| 05:03.44 | DTRemenak | that's actually the reason I didn't install 98 again after I formatted this box. every single app install requires a restart. |
| 05:03.45 | I_Died_Once | my first computer and operating system: Windown Millenium |
| 05:03.54 | orange | ouch |
| 05:03.58 | I_Died_Once | Thats what I said |
| 05:04.06 | I_Died_Once | No wonder I gave it up and took up Linux, eh? |
| 05:04.12 | DTRemenak | yup :) |
| 05:04.16 | orange | yeah, nobody can blame you for that one |
| 05:04.29 | I_Died_Once | s'ok, I learned a world |
| 05:04.42 | DTRemenak | not even the windows zealots think me is any good |
| 05:04.42 | JeffM2501 | I found an ubantu AMD64 CD, so as soon as I get my drives set up the way I want em, I'll have linux too |
| 05:04.45 | I_Died_Once | I managed to get WinME to work |
| 05:05.00 | orange | JeffM2501: how many terabytes of disk did you get? |
| 05:05.01 | JeffM2501 | MS dosn' think ME is good |
| 05:05.05 | I_Died_Once | then I got a copy of win2000 |
| 05:05.11 | JeffM2501 | orange, right now I just have an 80 |
| 05:05.20 | JeffM2501 | but I'm going to get a big SATA tomorow |
| 05:05.22 | orange | .08 terabytes |
| 05:05.45 | JeffM2501 | I have a 250 but I'm going to leave that in the old system |
| 05:05.47 | I_Died_Once | now, I repair and set up computers with jacked copies of Win2K for $50 a pop |
| 05:05.49 | orange | I just saw some article talking about half-terabyte drives (instead of 500GB) |
| 05:06.03 | brlcad | I_Died_Once: no hard feelings, I don't hate you -- it does just get annoying _really_rast |
| 05:06.08 | brlcad | that said, it should be fixed now |
| 05:06.10 | purple_cow | orange: uh, there's a difference? |
| 05:06.10 | trepan | orange: 80/1024 ? |
| 05:06.18 | orange | purple_cow: no |
| 05:06.19 | I_Died_Once | give me a minute and I will tell you |
| 05:06.23 | orange | just terminology |
| 05:06.24 | brlcad | s/rast/fast/ |
| 05:06.27 | JeffM2501 | purple_cow, terabytes have more fung shue |
| 05:06.28 | orange | trepan: don't get picky on me :-) |
| 05:06.35 | purple_cow | JeffM2501: ahh |
| 05:06.46 | DTRemenak | trepan: not by the drive manufacturer's standards :) |
| 05:06.50 | JeffM2501 | now the good thing is, this sucker boots in like 6 seconds |
| 05:07.00 | JeffM2501 | one scroll of the blue bar, and I'm up |
| 05:07.06 | DTRemenak | JeffM2501: new hardware is always nice, huh? :) |
| 05:07.10 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 05:07.26 | JeffM2501 | tho windows thinks it has 4 gigs of ram for some reason |
| 05:07.40 | orange | it's just reaching for the minimum |
| 05:07.46 | JeffM2501 | no I have 2 |
| 05:07.49 | JeffM2501 | but it's dual core |
| 05:07.54 | JeffM2501 | so it thinks each one has 2 |
| 05:08.28 | orange | it'll be interesting to see what linux thinks |
| 05:08.33 | orange | b/c it might be a bios setup issue |
| 05:08.34 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 05:08.50 | JeffM2501 | wonder how many "bogomips" it has :) |
| 05:09.06 | orange | I can't believe that's still in there :-) |
| 05:09.18 | JeffM2501 | how else can you compare digital wang |
| 05:09.56 | JeffM2501 | at least when I got home, it took 2 trips to unload the car, felt like I got something for the $$$ :) |
| 05:12.17 | JeffM2501 | and it came with this cool blue IDE cable |
| 05:12.17 | orange | I_Died_Once: I did notice that the more cosmos got mad the more attacks came from different fronts |
| 05:12.46 | orange | it was an inevitable spiral |
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| 05:30.22 | I_Died_Once | OK, I just got the CVS and I am still getting that error |
| 05:30.59 | I_Died_Once | did you guys move the .so files? |
| 05:31.26 | brlcad | what's your bzfs line? |
| 05:31.38 | brlcad | -loadplugin what? |
| 05:33.09 | I_Died_Once | -loadplugin /path/to/bzflag/lib/libplugin.so |
| 05:33.31 | I_Died_Once | or to be exact |
| 05:33.41 | brlcad | please be exact |
| 05:33.47 | I_Died_Once | -loadplugin /home/death/bzflag/lib/libairspawn.so |
| 05:34.01 | I_Died_Once | I'm not at the actual server, I'm next to it |
| 05:34.02 | brlcad | they're not prefixed by lib any more |
| 05:34.18 | I_Died_Once | then where would the airspawn.so file be? |
| 05:34.25 | brlcad | ls -la /home/dead/bzflag/lib |
| 05:34.26 | I_Died_Once | its not in the lib folder |
| 05:35.42 | I_Died_Once | everything in there has the lib |
| 05:38.22 | I_Died_Once | and before i did this CVS, I deleted the folder and started a new with it |
| 05:38.33 | I_Died_Once | thats why it took so long to "make" |
| 05:38.58 | I_Died_Once | OK, I gotta go to bed, I'll be back in about five or six hours to check back in, |
| 05:40.31 | brlcad | so then it sounds like you don't have the new changes yet |
| 05:40.38 | brlcad | anonymous cvs delay |
| 05:40.48 | brlcad | they won't have a lib prefix any more |
| 07:02.01 | JeffM2501 | mmmm tripple displays :) |
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| 09:11.26 | Shortcut | hei |
| 09:11.32 | Shortcut | where i am ??? |
| 09:11.46 | ruskie | you're here |
| 09:11.55 | Shortcut | ruskij ? |
| 09:12.19 | Shortcut | where ? |
| 09:12.28 | Shortcut | what country is here ? |
| 09:12.34 | Shortcut | :} |
| 09:12.55 | ruskie | here being no-mans-land-that-is-the-utlimate-anarchy-in-the-world-called-irc |
| 09:13.48 | Shortcut | cool |
| 09:14.02 | Shortcut | i hate IRC |
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| 10:18.57 | Tupone | hey ... my preferred foot :) |
| 10:19.09 | Birdie | heh |
| 10:19.15 | Birdie | nice foot orchid:) |
| 10:19.32 | orchid | :) |
| 10:32.09 | _Manu_ | where is the rest of the foot? :) |
| 10:32.35 | Tupone | she has gone :/ |
| 10:32.37 | ruskie | lol |
| 10:32.50 | _Manu_ | who the foot? :) |
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| 16:36.24 | IDiedOnce | woot |
| 16:37.49 | IDiedOnce | I got to fly to Atlanta today |
| 16:38.53 | IDiedOnce | Gonna pick up my daughter, fly back to Savannah, spend the weekend together, and fly back to ATL to drop her back to her mom, then fly myself back home |
| 16:39.15 | IDiedOnce | Anyone wanna guess how much that is going to cost me? |
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| 16:40.49 | IDiedOnce | Nothing, because I work for a major airline & I fly for free |
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| 16:41.59 | IDiedOnce | Anyone up for picking me up from their local airport and have me over for a few days? |
| 16:42.44 | IDiedOnce | So I see my server is down, or at least its not on the site's list of servers that are up |
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| 16:43.35 | IDiedOnce | I did get plugins to work on the latest CVS... however, bzfscron still gives that funky error like all the other ones did before. |
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| 16:44.39 | IDiedOnce | roguegeno and shockwavedeath still do not act well together with today's CVS (as of 6am this morning) |
| 16:54.02 | JeffM2501 | define the problem |
| 16:55.06 | IDiedOnce | OK... |
| 16:55.15 | JeffM2501 | now I wonder how much do I hate VC6, shoudl I even install it on the new machine...... |
| 16:55.31 | IDiedOnce | When I load both plugins, the shockwavedeath stil occurs, but geno has no special effect on rogues |
| 16:56.12 | IDiedOnce | If I do not load the ShockWaveDeath, then roguegeno works like it should |
| 16:56.23 | bryjen | one is handling the death event and that stops the event from being passed to the other, iirc |
| 16:56.48 | IDiedOnce | any and all combonations all work greatly, except when SWD is used with RogueGeno |
| 16:57.42 | IDiedOnce | I was gonna blame JeffM for them not working together |
| 16:57.49 | IDiedOnce | Or secretplace |
| 17:01.01 | bryjen | uhmm, ok |
| 17:01.17 | JeffM2501 | hmm |
| 17:01.21 | JeffM2501 | it's suposed to pass em thru |
| 17:01.26 | JeffM2501 | I can look at it later today |
| 17:03.39 | JeffM2501 | die event dosn't even have a "handle" flag |
| 17:03.41 | JeffM2501 | so it can't be that |
| 17:04.26 | JeffM2501 | does the behavor change based on who gets loaded first or last in the config? |
| 17:05.01 | bryjen | maybe i'm remembering wrong... :/ |
| 17:05.49 | JeffM2501 | that can happen in other events |
| 17:05.50 | JeffM2501 | like spawn |
| 17:05.54 | JeffM2501 | but no death |
| 17:06.04 | JeffM2501 | it's just a notification, the plugin can't realy DO anything to the death |
| 17:06.15 | JeffM2501 | the handle flag is for when the plugin can overide the data, or what happens |
| 17:06.18 | JeffM2501 | like a spawn pos |
| 17:06.28 | JeffM2501 | something that you would only want to happen once |
| 17:06.51 | JeffM2501 | I'm betting it's not calling both callbacks |
| 17:06.57 | JeffM2501 | and ether only calling the first or the last |
| 17:10.47 | IDiedOnce | sorry, was away.... |
| 17:11.14 | IDiedOnce | If I was home I culd see if changing them round would do the trick |
| 17:11.27 | IDiedOnce | I'll try that sometime tomorrow |
| 17:13.36 | IDiedOnce | I might be back |
| 17:17.35 | bryjen | whichever is loaded last is the one that works. |
| 17:19.03 | JeffM2501 | k |
| 17:19.34 | JeffM2501 | then add event is blowing them out, or the call isn't looping right |
| 17:51.02 | CIA-2 | BZFlag: 03bryjen * 10bzflag/ (include/WorldEventManager.h src/bzfs/WorldEventManager.cxx): spelling |
| 17:51.26 | bryjen | that's all that jumped out at me as wrong :( |
| 17:53.09 | jpa- | bryjen <3 |
| 17:58.31 | JeffM2501 | yeah code looks clean |
| 17:58.46 | JeffM2501 | if there isn't one, add a vector, then push it on the end |
| 17:58.50 | JeffM2501 | have to set up a test case |
| 17:59.03 | JeffM2501 | but my home comp dosn't even have a complier yet :( |
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| 19:26.32 | bryjen | hrm fun with libs |
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| 19:30.58 | Tupone | I hit some errors while building :( |
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| 19:34.16 | bryjen | I thought brlcad's library-izing of the bzfsAPI.o might fixup loading plugins, so I removed the -export-dynamic I had added to my makefile.... it appears I thought wrong :( |
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| 19:35.39 | bryjen | and it has the bzfs binary dynamic linking against that little lib instead of building it in. seems odd. |
| 19:38.41 | Tupone | I'm rebuilding from scratch to see if it works with --disable-plugins |
| 19:40.16 | bryjen | Oh, it all builds OK here |
| 19:40.40 | Tupone | but you are not with --disable-plugins |
| 19:40.50 | bryjen | true |
| 19:41.41 | Tupone | sh autogen.sh has fixed it |
| 19:41.51 | Tupone | and configure |
| 19:43.29 | Tupone | I changed the compiler too, I wonder if that is. now 3.3.6 from 3.3.5 |
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| 19:47.59 | orange | I've gone |
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| 20:08.01 | JeffM2501 | serial ATA cables are funny looking |
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| 20:18.43 | bryjen | Ok, my mistake. I really do not need -export-dynamic any more. |
| 20:18.55 | bryjen | ~bzpastebin |
| 20:18.56 | ibot | methinks bzpastebin is a place to paste your stuff without flooding the channel, and it archives too. - try http://bzflag.pastebin.ca/ |
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| 20:24.44 | bryjen | is this registering the same handler twice ( the theEvent= ) ? http://bzflag.pastebin.ca/22532 |
| 20:27.50 | JeffM2501 | the event pointer is th same |
| 20:27.57 | JeffM2501 | what's wierd |
| 20:28.28 | JeffM2501 | are the event handalers named the same in each plugin? |
| 20:29.14 | bryjen | yes, deathHandler |
| 20:30.07 | bryjen | har. |
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| 20:35.37 | JeffM2501 | wonder if it's the way that nix links them in, where they think they are the same |
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| 20:36.17 | RPG_ | I had a bad feeling about the new tokenize system |
| 20:36.36 | JeffM2501 | it's the same old tok |
| 20:36.39 | JeffM2501 | just packaged difrently |
| 20:36.45 | JeffM2501 | you can use the old tok if you want |
| 20:36.51 | JeffM2501 | just copy the code into your plugin |
| 20:37.01 | JeffM2501 | like I did in the default ones |
| 20:37.18 | RPG_ | I ran it in a debugger, and the tokenize seemed to do nothing to the BZAPIList |
| 20:37.49 | RPG_ | i'll try your way |
| 20:37.56 | bryjen | that's fixed it. |
| 20:38.30 | JeffM2501 | bryjen, that scares me, plugins should not crosstalk |
| 20:39.30 | bryjen | the instance of the class is deathHandler in both |
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| 20:45.21 | JeffM2501 | so it's mixing the globals |
| 20:45.24 | JeffM2501 | that's not good |
| 20:45.51 | JeffM2501 | probably going to have to make each plugin be in it's own namespace then |
| 20:45.58 | JeffM2501 | just to be clean about it |
| 20:46.10 | JeffM2501 | and it makes copying an existing pluing VERY iffy |
| 20:46.24 | CIA-2 | BZFlag: 03bryjen * 10bzflag/plugins/ (2 files in 2 dirs): more unique naming to prevent plugins from overwriting each other |
| 20:47.15 | bryjen | well, if they're global, they're _global_ ;) |
| 20:47.29 | JeffM2501 | on windows it's only global to the scope of that module |
| 20:47.35 | JeffM2501 | since it was never exported by the plugin |
| 20:47.47 | JeffM2501 | I guess since in linux ALL things are exported |
| 20:47.51 | JeffM2501 | untless they are static |
| 20:48.00 | JeffM2501 | we could make the globals be static I guess |
| 20:48.51 | JeffM2501 | try that, name them the same, and make them 'static' |
| 20:48.59 | JeffM2501 | see if the problem stops |
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| 21:00.49 | bryjen | that works too. deathHandler is a rather generic name. the other plugins use something closer to their own name. |
| 21:01.43 | JeffM2501 | swdeath was the first one I made |
| 21:01.49 | JeffM2501 | so yes, many plugins are derived from it |
| 21:02.11 | JeffM2501 | ok so lets put static in all globals by default then in those and the sample |
| 21:02.49 | JeffM2501 | and probably doc it in the part on event handlers, or maybe at least in the overview section |
| 21:03.39 | JeffM2501 | ugg, I have to reinstall dreamweaver too |
| 21:03.47 | JeffM2501 | this is why I hate upgrading :( |
| 21:04.55 | JeffM2501 | now if I have a linux install, and want to change that to a difrent arch, can I install on top of the old FS and still have my home dir and settings and stuff? |
| 21:05.00 | JeffM2501 | or would that be "bad" ? |
| 21:05.41 | JeffM2501 | basicly I had a 40 gig with ubntu on it, I have the new AMD64 one to install, do I have to wipe the drive and start over? |
| 21:10.26 | bryjen | backing up /home and wiping it all out would probly be the cleanest. you could put /home back later. |
| 21:10.49 | JeffM2501 | ok |
| 21:11.03 | JeffM2501 | I don't realy have anything I can't replace, just bz and stuff |
| 21:11.18 | JeffM2501 | wonder how nix is going to like the 2 video cards tho |
| 21:11.27 | JeffM2501 | under windows it's damn nice |
| 21:11.39 | JeffM2501 | I can use the driver controlls to swap between SLI and multi head mode |
| 21:11.57 | bryjen | that'll depend on NV's drivers, I'd imagine |
| 21:12.03 | JeffM2501 | yeah probably |
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| 21:12.18 | JeffM2501 | I'm betting it's just going to see it as twinview and that's it |
| 21:13.06 | bryjen | maybe. since they supply the guts of the driver though, you may be pleasantly suprised :) |
| 21:17.50 | JeffM2501 | I may |
| 21:18.04 | JeffM2501 | dono how one would set the SLI profiles and stuff |
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| 21:20.52 | bryjen | http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=55693 |
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| 21:22.22 | JeffM2501 | ok so not yet |
| 21:22.24 | JeffM2501 | no bigie |
| 21:22.39 | JeffM2501 | I don't play many games on linux anyway |
| 21:25.00 | bryjen | so, did you get an nForce4 motherboard? Linux happy with it so far? |
| 21:27.38 | JeffM2501 | yes nforce 4 |
| 21:27.44 | JeffM2501 | haven't installed linux at all yet |
| 21:32.45 | JeffM2501 | now this is funny |
| 21:33.02 | JeffM2501 | you know how in windows, when you do a file copy, if you don't have the copy window selected, it goes slower |
| 21:33.12 | ToughShooter | Why are taken screenshots on Mac OS X are overwritten when you re-start client and make a new one? |
| 21:33.13 | JeffM2501 | because windows puts the process lower in the priority? |
| 21:33.27 | JeffM2501 | ToughShooter, because that is how it works on ALL OSs |
| 21:33.37 | JeffM2501 | the screenshot counter is only per session |
| 21:33.42 | JeffM2501 | we don't store the last one you made |
| 21:34.18 | ToughShooter | Ah, so no check for an existing file |
| 21:34.33 | JeffM2501 | nope |
| 21:34.50 | JeffM2501 | it's asumed you'd have moved them out to a real dir and used them inbetween |
| 21:34.55 | JeffM2501 | bzflag is not a gallery app :) |
| 21:36.45 | ToughShooter | I tuned my driver to produce really great graphics (when smoothing is off otherwise ground gets black..) and wanted to compare them to the old. I guess it's not worth the effort. |
| 21:37.04 | ToughShooter | s/smoothing/shadows |
| 21:37.52 | JeffM2501 | bzflag can't realy doo "really great graphics" |
| 21:37.58 | JeffM2501 | it needs volumetric shadows |
| 21:38.20 | ToughShooter | Ansitropical filtering and much FSAA can make it looking much better |
| 21:38.33 | JeffM2501 | that will just smooth it out |
| 21:38.47 | JeffM2501 | you can pollish poop all you want, it's still poop |
| 21:39.09 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 21:39.43 | JeffM2501 | it's kinda cool to have 2 CPus |
| 21:39.55 | JeffM2501 | stuff like dosn't you know... slow down, when you do other stuff :) |
| 21:40.49 | bryjen | two seperate units, or an X2 dual-core thingy? |
| 21:41.13 | JeffM2501 | dualc ore |
| 21:41.41 | JeffM2501 | had to tell XP how to install tho, so it treats it as 2 real CPUs, and not the hyperthreading crap |
| 21:50.00 | CIA-2 | BZFlag: 03atupone * 10bzflag/src/ (Makefile.am bzflag/Makefile.am): Don't traverse into src/bzflag if not building client |
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| 22:55.05 | Tupone | hi Aribeth |
| 22:55.13 | Aribeth | hi |
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| 23:57.25 | CIA-2 | BZFlag: 03atupone * 10bzflag/ (configure.ac src/Makefile.am src/bzadmin/Makefile.am): Don't traverse into src/bzadmin if not building bzadmin |
| 23:59.08 | arrummzen | What resolution should I run bzflag in to make it display properly in a window? |
