| 00:00.36 | bz4152 | E:\Home\jimmy\bzfs-conf..txt: error: could not find bzflag configuration file |
| 00:00.50 | blast007 | ".." ? |
| 00:01.05 | bz4152 | sry just 1 dot |
| 00:01.08 | blast007 | k |
| 00:01.16 | bz4152 | i can't copy for some reason |
| 00:01.18 | JeffM2501 | we can't open that file |
| 00:01.24 | bz4152 | i thought i used to be able to |
| 00:01.28 | bz4152 | meaning |
| 00:01.36 | bz4152 | i did something wrong |
| 00:02.12 | bz4152 | ?? |
| 00:02.27 | JeffM2501 | hard to say |
| 00:02.43 | blast007 | did you try adding a blank line at the end? (assuming it's a 1 line conf file) |
| 00:02.44 | JeffM2501 | ether the file is locked, permisions are wrong, or it's not there |
| 00:02.51 | bz4152 | lol |
| 00:02.54 | bz4152 | it is ther |
| 00:02.55 | JeffM2501 | blast007, that would tive a difrent error |
| 00:02.57 | bz4152 | not locked |
| 00:03.04 | bz4152 | and permission should be good |
| 00:03.07 | bz4152 | i created the file |
| 00:03.11 | JeffM2501 | dono |
| 00:03.12 | bz4152 | in my directory |
| 00:03.15 | bz4152 | see |
| 00:03.18 | JeffM2501 | put it in the same dir as bzfs |
| 00:03.21 | bz4152 | thats why i am confused |
| 00:03.25 | JeffM2501 | and just use the file name |
| 00:03.28 | bz4152 | not extention |
| 00:03.30 | bz4152 | k |
| 00:03.32 | JeffM2501 | and the extension |
| 00:03.35 | JeffM2501 | tha'ts part of the filename |
| 00:04.01 | bz4152 | so bzfs.txt? |
| 00:04.15 | bz4152 | or bzfs |
| 00:04.18 | bz4152 | ?? |
| 00:04.46 | bz4152 | ..???>>>??? |
| 00:05.11 | bz4152 | u ther? |
| 00:05.43 | blast007 | use the whole filename |
| 00:05.50 | JeffM2501 | bzfs is the server |
| 00:05.51 | blast007 | but cd to the bzflag directory |
| 00:05.54 | JeffM2501 | call the config what ever you want |
| 00:06.00 | JeffM2501 | just put it in the same dir as the server |
| 00:06.08 | bz4152 | ok |
| 00:06.25 | trepan | that mod to the tex d/l status isn't all that helpful |
| 00:06.41 | bz4152 | lol |
| 00:06.43 | bz4152 | well hang on |
| 00:06.54 | bz4152 | i have to switch ot admin so i have permission |
| 00:07.18 | JeffM2501 | whoa, you are on a permisioned system |
| 00:07.25 | JeffM2501 | maybe there is your problem :) |
| 00:07.45 | JeffM2501 | trepan, probably, but it made the kid feel better, and I don't think it hurt anything |
| 00:08.10 | JeffM2501 | he has the responsability to test it tho, since I'm blocked from servers now |
| 00:08.29 | trepan | your commit, your resp. ;) |
| 00:08.41 | JeffM2501 | and I'm using the power of minnions |
| 00:09.14 | JeffM2501 | I'll have to test it when I get home |
| 00:09.22 | trepan | if it doesn't get better, it gets reverted (i'll take a look at it later) |
| 00:09.29 | JeffM2501 | yup |
| 00:09.49 | JeffM2501 | the power of history :) |
| 00:10.05 | bz4152 | well no good |
| 00:10.06 | trepan | ... not that the current way is that much better, but at least i don't get -1/2 |
| 00:10.14 | JeffM2501 | heh |
| 00:10.18 | JeffM2501 | I'll look at his code |
| 00:10.21 | bz4152 | DOESN'T WORK |
| 00:10.40 | JeffM2501 | bz4152, did you run it from the command line or shortcut |
| 00:10.43 | JeffM2501 | and dude calm down |
| 00:10.47 | bz4152 | short |
| 00:10.57 | bz4152 | i am not uncalm |
| 00:11.05 | JeffM2501 | all caps man |
| 00:11.06 | bz4152 | sory for the CAP LOCKS |
| 00:11.15 | JeffM2501 | same error? |
| 00:11.20 | bz4152 | yes |
| 00:11.25 | JeffM2501 | wierdness |
| 00:11.25 | bz4152 | exact |
| 00:11.28 | bz4152 | yes |
| 00:11.33 | bz4152 | even ran from admin |
| 00:11.36 | bz4152 | just for kicks |
| 00:11.38 | JeffM2501 | dono |
| 00:11.46 | bz4152 | lol very weird |
| 00:11.56 | bz4152 | i can type the parameters directly but no cofig file |
| 00:12.03 | bz4152 | config* |
| 00:12.31 | blast007 | so you tried running: bzfs -conf bzfs-conf.txt |
| 00:12.33 | blast007 | ? |
| 00:12.46 | bz4152 | is that what i should do |
| 00:12.50 | bz4152 | i wrote out the address |
| 00:12.52 | bz4152 | hang on |
| 00:12.53 | blast007 | yeah, from the bzflag directory too |
| 00:13.19 | blast007 | cd \program files\bzflag 2.0.2 |
| 00:13.31 | bz4152 | typed: 04"C:\Program Files\BZFlag2.0.2\bzfs.exe" -conf "bzfs.txt" |
| 00:13.57 | bz4152 | which is in the C:\Program Files\BZFlag2.0.2 04directory |
| 00:14.18 | bz4152 | <b>HTML</b> |
| 00:14.20 | bz4152 | darn |
| 00:15.03 | blast007 | you have to cd to that directory first, or else it work work this way |
| 00:15.10 | bz4152 | are 04you01 still there? |
| 00:15.12 | bz4152 | ok |
| 00:15.14 | bz4152 | hang tight |
| 00:15.17 | blast007 | -conf without a path uses the current directory |
| 00:15.41 | JeffM2501 | oh I see |
| 00:15.55 | JeffM2501 | ok do cd c:\program... |
| 00:15.58 | JeffM2501 | with out the bzfs.exe |
| 00:16.08 | JeffM2501 | then do bzfs.exe -conf bzfs.txt |
| 00:16.23 | JeffM2501 | ahh you told him |
| 00:16.25 | bz4152 | i know |
| 00:16.28 | JeffM2501 | bzflag don't like the "" |
| 00:16.30 | bz4152 | not working |
| 00:16.43 | JeffM2501 | did you hav the "" around bzfs.txt ? |
| 00:16.50 | bz4152 | Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600] |
| 00:16.52 | bz4152 | dang |
| 00:17.19 | bz4152 | got to the directory |
| 00:17.29 | bz4152 | with the bzfs.exe then typed |
| 00:17.48 | bz4152 | bzfs.exe -conf bzfs.txt |
| 00:17.53 | bz4152 | same error |
| 00:18.03 | blast007 | from that same directory, type: edit bzfs.txt |
| 00:18.13 | bz4152 | .. |
| 00:18.16 | JeffM2501 | good call blast007 |
| 00:18.38 | bz4152 | opps dos text editor name 04"edit" |
| 00:18.39 | blast007 | if it shows up with a blank editor, then the file does not exist |
| 00:18.43 | bz4152 | form command propt |
| 00:19.08 | JeffM2501 | it opens a blank text editor? |
| 00:19.10 | bz4152 | i typed 04edit bzfs.exe |
| 00:19.22 | *** mode/#bzflag [-c] by JeffM2501 |
| 00:19.29 | bz4152 | and shows 02blue screen01 with compiled code |
| 00:19.33 | blast007 | no, you're editing the conf, not the binary |
| 00:19.37 | blast007 | +c ;) |
| 00:19.37 | JeffM2501 | exit the config |
| 00:19.43 | bz4152 | oh hang on |
| 00:19.44 | bz4152 | lol |
| 00:19.48 | JeffM2501 | not the exe |
| 00:19.52 | *** mode/#bzflag [+c] by JeffM2501 |
| 00:19.55 | JeffM2501 | there we go |
| 00:20.17 | JeffM2501 | type just what blast007 said to type |
| 00:20.29 | bz4152 | opens and contains "-ms 10" |
| 00:20.34 | bz4152 | just like it should |
| 00:21.16 | bz4152 | man that is weird |
| 00:21.31 | JeffM2501 | yeah should work |
| 00:21.31 | bz4152 | the file obviously exists but your .dll is not finding it |
| 00:21.36 | JeffM2501 | dll? |
| 00:21.37 | bz4152 | very weird |
| 00:21.37 | JeffM2501 | what dll? |
| 00:21.41 | bz4152 | w/e |
| 00:21.46 | bz4152 | Code |
| 00:21.49 | JeffM2501 | we just call fopen on it |
| 00:21.53 | JeffM2501 | and open it right up |
| 00:21.58 | bz4152 | just like php lol |
| 00:22.01 | bz4152 | same stuff |
| 00:22.06 | JeffM2501 | unless the app dosn't have permsions or something |
| 00:22.08 | bz4152 | i write php thats why i say that |
| 00:22.11 | bz4152 | hmm |
| 00:22.13 | bz4152 | wait |
| 00:22.16 | bz4152 | i have an idea |
| 00:22.21 | bz4152 | i installed as me |
| 00:22.26 | bz4152 | i will install as ADMIN |
| 00:22.32 | blast007 | that shouldn't matter |
| 00:22.36 | bz4152 | ok n/m |
| 00:22.43 | bz4152 | very odd |
| 00:22.48 | JeffM2501 | not unless your "you" user has way limited permisions on the system |
| 00:22.51 | JeffM2501 | like no fileIO |
| 00:22.59 | blast007 | hmm... |
| 00:23.02 | bz4152 | "IO"?? |
| 00:23.08 | bz4152 | lost me ther |
| 00:23.10 | blast007 | In/Out |
| 00:23.17 | bz4152 | ok, not sure what it is |
| 00:23.19 | blast007 | read and write access, etc |
| 00:23.23 | bz4152 | ohj |
| 00:23.26 | bz4152 | got ya |
| 00:24.45 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: jeffm2501 * BZFlagG3D/tools/mapedit/ (5 files in 3 dirs): bind a GL context to the window, and start some event handaling |
| 00:24.47 | bz4152 | lol |
| 00:25.13 | blast007 | :) |
| 00:25.17 | bz4152 | so what should i do |
| 00:25.22 | JeffM2501 | dono |
| 00:25.31 | JeffM2501 | try it all as admin |
| 00:25.34 | JeffM2501 | I guess |
| 00:25.36 | bz4152 | hey if you don't then we are trully lost |
| 00:25.39 | bz4152 | lol |
| 00:25.43 | bz4152 | install or run |
| 00:25.47 | JeffM2501 | blast007, twasn't in the win32 files ether |
| 00:25.52 | JeffM2501 | bz4152, both |
| 00:26.05 | bz4152 | alright i will be back in a few minutes |
| 00:28.28 | bz4152 | same error lol |
| 00:28.57 | bz4152 | thats all i got |
| 00:28.59 | bz4152 | u? |
| 00:29.04 | JeffM2501 | then something is way wacky on your system |
| 00:29.12 | bz4152 | tried same on another |
| 00:29.16 | bz4152 | with 2000 |
| 00:29.18 | JeffM2501 | nothing other then building it from source and running it thru a debuger |
| 00:29.40 | bz4152 | well that i don't want to do i will compile and Linux and try it |
| 00:29.56 | bz4152 | also my friends were playing and they got banned |
| 00:30.01 | bz4152 | we are on the same network |
| 00:30.05 | JeffM2501 | what did they do to get baned |
| 00:30.06 | bz4152 | caz playing at my house |
| 00:30.18 | bz4152 | used the calsign "adolfhitler" |
| 00:30.22 | JeffM2501 | that woudl do it |
| 00:30.26 | bz4152 | is ther anyway i can get unbanned |
| 00:30.33 | JeffM2501 | talk to the server that baned them |
| 00:30.37 | bz4152 | caz same external ip since under router |
| 00:30.41 | bz4152 | how do i do that |
| 00:31.01 | JeffM2501 | find out what server it was, and find out how to contact them |
| 00:31.05 | JeffM2501 | or play on another server |
| 00:31.10 | JeffM2501 | bans are only per server |
| 00:31.15 | bz4152 | i no |
| 00:31.19 | JeffM2501 | what server was it? |
| 00:31.24 | bz4152 | but how would i contact server |
| 00:31.26 | bz4152 | viper,pimi |
| 00:31.28 | bz4152 | and another |
| 00:31.31 | bz4152 | lol |
| 00:31.38 | bz4152 | viper.pimpi |
| 00:31.45 | JeffM2501 | they usualy have contact info on there descriptions |
| 00:31.50 | bz4152 | oh |
| 00:31.52 | bz4152 | ok |
| 00:31.53 | JeffM2501 | if not, then you are somewhat screwed |
| 00:31.53 | bz4152 | i wil try |
| 00:31.58 | bz4152 | ty |
| 00:31.59 | bz4152 | lol |
| 00:32.06 | bz4152 | so is ther anyway i can contact you again |
| 00:32.06 | JeffM2501 | just play somewhere else, and controll your system |
| 00:32.11 | bz4152 | ok |
| 00:32.12 | JeffM2501 | come here, or on bzbb |
| 00:32.17 | bz4152 | bzbb? |
| 00:32.25 | JeffM2501 | my.bzflag.org/bb/ |
| 00:32.27 | bz4152 | i kinda new to this |
| 00:32.30 | bz4152 | k |
| 00:32.31 | JeffM2501 | our forums |
| 00:32.35 | bz4152 | figured |
| 00:32.40 | bz4152 | bb Bulitin Board |
| 00:33.05 | bz4152 | alright well thank you for tring to help |
| 00:33.18 | bz4152 | what you running on right now? (just wondering) |
| 00:33.25 | JeffM2501 | for what? |
| 00:33.32 | bz4152 | trying to help.. |
| 00:33.40 | JeffM2501 | no running for what? |
| 00:33.45 | bz4152 | oh |
| 00:33.49 | bz4152 | OS |
| 00:33.54 | JeffM2501 | XP on this system |
| 00:33.57 | bz4152 | ok |
| 00:34.18 | bz4152 | well i will try to compile .etc |
| 00:34.26 | JeffM2501 | do you have a compiler? |
| 00:34.27 | bz4152 | and if i get it to work i will be sure to contact u |
| 00:34.32 | bz4152 | yes |
| 00:34.37 | JeffM2501 | what one? |
| 00:34.47 | bz4152 | C compiler |
| 00:34.52 | JeffM2501 | what one? |
| 00:34.54 | JeffM2501 | there are many |
| 00:34.59 | JeffM2501 | and bzflag is C++ |
| 00:35.06 | bz4152 | GCC |
| 00:35.10 | JeffM2501 | mingw? |
| 00:35.17 | JeffM2501 | or cygwin? |
| 00:35.33 | bz4152 | possibly |
| 00:35.36 | bz4152 | does it need that? |
| 00:35.52 | JeffM2501 | well depending on what one you have, you do difrent htings |
| 00:36.01 | JeffM2501 | bz builds best on windows with VC7.1 |
| 00:36.14 | JeffM2501 | mingw will work, but you have to set up a lot more |
| 00:36.14 | bz4152 | don't have that |
| 00:36.20 | JeffM2501 | I don't know bout cygwin |
| 00:36.23 | bz4152 | what about linux |
| 00:36.32 | JeffM2501 | you may have to get some libs |
| 00:36.32 | bz4152 | i am gona do this on Linux |
| 00:36.37 | JeffM2501 | but a linux build won't work on windows |
| 00:36.43 | bz4152 | sure |
| 00:36.51 | bz4152 | i wasn't expecting it ot |
| 00:36.51 | JeffM2501 | linux builds are prety strait forward |
| 00:36.52 | blast007 | well, there is that cross-compile readme too :) |
| 00:36.59 | JeffM2501 | that readme is EVIL |
| 00:37.03 | blast007 | hehe |
| 00:37.07 | bz4152 | lol |
| 00:37.23 | JeffM2501 | those arn't builds, they are abominations |
| 00:38.11 | bz4152 | may have old Borland compiler, but will just use Linux |
| 00:38.33 | JeffM2501 | borland == not on your life |
| 00:38.39 | bz4152 | ? |
| 00:38.51 | blast007 | borland won't work |
| 00:38.52 | JeffM2501 | we don't support borland |
| 00:38.58 | bz4152 | ok jezz |
| 00:39.03 | bz4152 | i just gona do linux |
| 00:39.42 | bz4152 | well i guess i will see you later |
| 00:39.54 | bz4152 | school start Thursday so i will get bussy |
| 00:39.59 | bz4152 | have less time for this |
| 00:40.07 | bz4152 | taking JAVA! |
| 00:40.19 | bz4152 | to add to my WEBKNOWLEDGE |
| 00:40.35 | JeffM2501 | umm ok |
| 00:40.41 | bz4152 | lol |
| 00:40.45 | bz4152 | bye |
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| 00:52.10 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: jeffm2501 * BZFlagG3D/tools/mapedit/ (13 files in 8 dirs): |
| 00:52.10 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: call an OSX platform when we are on the 'tosh |
| 00:52.10 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: add that linux thing since we can't leave anyone out. |
| 00:52.10 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: add file opening |
| 00:54.30 | JeffM2501 | totaly gonna catch crap for that one |
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| 01:17.25 | brad2901 | I'm not complaining or anything, but some commands still don't work :) |
| 01:17.45 | brad2901 | /kick, /ban, /mute etc. |
| 01:18.13 | brad2901 | 2.0.3b16 |
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| 01:34.41 | learner | maybe purple_cow would be willing to add someone to the commit list.. *ahem* |
| 01:34.56 | learner | oh, did I say that out loud? my bad. |
| 01:35.13 | Tupone | :-] |
| 01:39.19 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: atupone * bzflag/src/bzfs/ (bzfs.cxx commands.cxx commands.h): /reset command is not valid in Replay. So remove from the list |
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| 02:04.44 | trepan | Tupone_: i disagree, leave the /reset command in |
| 02:05.00 | Tupone_ | strongly? :) |
| 02:05.08 | Tupone_ | I will |
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| 02:06.12 | Tupone_ | Someone like to show only the comamnd is actually able to do - (Permission) I'm not sure about that |
| 02:06.41 | trepan | na, leave them in, there's precedence for it |
| 02:07.07 | Tupone_ | what you mean by precedence? |
| 02:07.29 | Tupone_ | someone did it before? |
| 02:07.35 | trepan | ~dict precedence |
| 02:07.58 | trepan | ex: irc clients do not disable commands from their help listing because you aren't an op |
| 02:08.11 | trepan | same for unix op commands (ifconfig, wall, etc...) |
| 02:08.39 | Tupone_ | well, some commands are not in the path for normal user, so it is like they are disabled |
| 02:08.57 | trepan | heh, maybe in your world |
| 02:09.21 | Tupone_ | the only thing I don't like for disabling, is that you will never know they are there |
| 02:09.57 | trepan | it was perfectly fine the way it was, dunno why you decided to mess with it |
| 02:10.35 | Tupone_ | so, I did just for 1 to see what people think. Tomorrow I will put that back. Now is too late, and I should not have done at this time of night :/ |
| 02:10.51 | Tupone_ | cya |
| 02:17.09 | JeffM2501 | learner, what was the thing to change 10.4 from GCC 4 to 3? |
| 02:17.18 | learner | gcc_select |
| 02:17.26 | learner | gcc_select 3.3 |
| 02:17.44 | JeffM2501 | hmmm I'm allrady on 4 |
| 02:18.03 | JeffM2501 | my xcode project says it can't find libstdc++.a |
| 02:18.59 | learner | xcode has it's own settings to specify the compiler |
| 02:19.03 | JeffM2501 | hmm |
| 02:19.20 | JeffM2501 | then my changing it for BZ should not have screwed this up |
| 02:20.44 | JeffM2501 | is /usr/lib/libstdc++.a not a valid place? |
| 02:21.25 | JeffM2501 | hmmm I have libstdc++.6.0.3.dylib in that dir |
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| 02:31.45 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: jeffm2501 * BZFlagG3D/ (6 files in 3 dirs): |
| 02:31.45 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: get mac build to build |
| 02:31.45 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: but watch it still crash like a horible pigdog |
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| 03:00.44 | setuid | I've got an interesting issue.. it seems I can't kill tanks on any map. I can shoot all day, even head-on, or with SW dozens of times, and tanks never die. Why? |
| 03:00.51 | setuid | It just started happening yesterday |
| 03:01.02 | setuid | I've rebuilt bz from scratch, same thing |
| 03:07.03 | orchid | hmm, who had that same thing the other day? |
| 03:08.00 | learner | setuid, that's usually a local firewall/filtering problem |
| 03:08.15 | learner | like no udp being let through |
| 03:08.18 | setuid | Nothing at all was changed on this end |
| 03:08.41 | setuid | Players say they can't see me shooting, but I can shoot myself, they say they see me "explode", but no shots |
| 03:08.55 | learner | oh you said any map -- I read "my map" |
| 03:09.26 | learner | yeah, you've gotten out of sync with the server |
| 03:09.29 | learner | so it's ignoring you |
| 03:09.57 | learner | what's causing that is not simple to figure out |
| 03:10.14 | learner | you sure it happens for ALL maps? |
| 03:10.24 | learner | or just a few popular ones |
| 03:11.22 | setuid | Every single map |
| 03:11.30 | setuid | Over the last day to day and a half |
| 03:11.51 | setuid | The out of sync thing sounds familiar, because every once in awhile, I get autokicked because GM rockets are fired too soon or something? |
| 03:12.01 | setuid | I forget the exact message, something about the rockets being weird |
| 03:12.18 | setuid | I just dumped ~/.bzf and recreated my prefs... same thing |
| 03:12.30 | setuid | ntpdate runs clean, my end is time-correct with Stratum 1 |
| 03:12.44 | setuid | How do I force a resync? |
| 03:15.49 | setuid | Just tried 5 more servers, all the same |
| 03:17.04 | learner | hrm |
| 03:17.32 | learner | running clean isn't as important as the speed of your drift |
| 03:18.11 | learner | wouldn't happen to be a laptop would it? |
| 03:18.38 | setuid | Yep |
| 03:18.49 | setuid | The same laptop that has worked great with bz for a few months now |
| 03:18.54 | learner | processor throttling? |
| 03:19.04 | setuid | Let me set it to max, hold on |
| 03:19.15 | learner | yeah, try that just for kicks |
| 03:19.51 | setuid | Nope |
| 03:19.57 | setuid | Just tried at Skinny's... same story |
| 03:20.57 | learner | you say you tried compiling |
| 03:21.02 | learner | which sources? |
| 03:21.11 | setuid | Let me reboot the router |
| 03:21.19 | learner | ahh, yes |
| 03:21.39 | learner | actually, that very likely is the problem if you're going through local routers |
| 03:22.09 | learner | certain brands have horrible udp management |
| 03:22.23 | setuid | But this only started yesterday... |
| 03:22.27 | learner | reboot the cable router if you're going through that as well |
| 03:22.38 | setuid | Same router, same build of sveasoft running for months, router had probably a 5-month uptime |
| 03:22.41 | learner | it's corruption, anything can cause it |
| 03:22.49 | setuid | hrm... DSL modem perhaps. Let me reboot that too. |
| 03:22.54 | setuid | Back in a moment |
| 03:22.55 | learner | if after rebooting both you still have it, there is more to try |
| 03:23.33 | learner | usually firmware upgrading is the easy fix to that problem |
| 03:23.35 | setuid | The techs were here the other day, uncapped the line to 6Mbit/3Mbit |
| 03:23.52 | learner | ahh |
| 03:23.54 | setuid | No firmware involved to upgrade, I'm at the highest level of firmware my router (a WRT54GS) supports |
| 03:23.57 | learner | that sounds related |
| 03:24.15 | learner | ahh, hehe, WRT54GS |
| 03:24.17 | learner | i know that one |
| 03:24.41 | learner | buggy as hell |
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| 03:28.01 | setuid | Nope, no luck there |
| 03:28.06 | setuid | rebooted the DSL modem and the router |
| 03:29.10 | setuid | Its so weird, happens under two kernels, under 3 versions of bzflag now... on any map |
| 03:29.27 | learner | i'm still betting on your linksys now |
| 03:29.45 | learner | are you going through it wired or wireless? |
| 03:29.53 | setuid | The linksys that hasn't changed in months, just decided to stop letting me fire shots in bzflag yesterday? |
| 03:30.06 | setuid | I'm using it the same way I always have, wireless. |
| 03:30.32 | learner | yeah, but now you're upload/download rate is suddenly way higher than it used to be |
| 03:30.48 | setuid | The firmware was untouched, the connection is the same, everything is *IDENTICAL* to when it worked on Monday and for months before that with this laptop, and probably 2 years straight before that with my other laptop. |
| 03:31.13 | learner | you just said that you like was just uncapped |
| 03:31.14 | setuid | So what was your other idea to try? |
| 03:31.22 | learner | s/like/line/ |
| 03:31.26 | setuid | My DSL was uncapped about a week ago, yes. |
| 03:31.33 | setuid | But bzflag worked after that, until Monday |
| 03:31.37 | setuid | Then it all stopped |
| 03:32.28 | learner | hmm, connect to a server for me, let me see if it outputs anything unusual |
| 03:32.41 | setuid | Which server? |
| 03:32.41 | learner | hix.bzflag.bz |
| 03:32.45 | setuid | sec |
| 03:33.19 | setuid | Says "Error connecting", is it up? |
| 03:33.28 | learner | :) |
| 03:33.38 | setuid | Apparently not ;) |
| 03:33.39 | learner | port 4126 |
| 03:33.44 | setuid | oop |
| 03:34.29 | learner | drive around, shoot yourself a few times |
| 03:34.36 | setuid | sec. |
| 03:34.37 | learner | see if you can get someone to join in and shoot with you |
| 03:37.01 | setuid | Looks like the shots are invisible, but I can shoot myself |
| 03:37.14 | orchid | hes all over the map |
| 03:37.29 | orchid | jitter was +- 22,0000 |
| 03:37.40 | setuid | So what causes that? |
| 03:37.56 | orchid | he was sportchick'n big time |
| 03:38.02 | learner | wow |
| 03:38.32 | learner | setuid, 'shooting yourself' doesn't involve the network fwiw |
| 03:38.39 | setuid | Right |
| 03:38.44 | setuid | But why are my shots invisible? |
| 03:38.55 | setuid | If it was out of sync, I'd expect delayed shots, not invisible shots, no? |
| 03:39.16 | learner | hmm.. you aren't in the logs |
| 03:39.18 | learner | wierd |
| 03:39.39 | PrezKennedy | what OS? |
| 03:39.56 | setuid | Linux |
| 03:40.00 | orchid | setuid: your so far off sync though, one sec your next to me and suddenly your half a map away |
| 03:40.01 | setuid | Linux version 2.6.12.5 (root@angst) (gcc version 4.0.2 20050806 (prerelease) (Debian 4.0.1-4)) #1 Sun Aug 21 19:57:54 EDT 2005 |
| 03:40.10 | setuid | orchid: weird |
| 03:42.54 | learner | what version of bz? |
| 03:43.07 | setuid | BZFlag client 2.0.2.20050823-STABLE-linux-gnu-SDL (protocol 0026) h |
| 03:43.27 | learner | welp, that is prefix, iirc |
| 03:43.39 | setuid | huh? |
| 03:43.48 | learner | you know how to compile from a cvs checkout? |
| 03:43.54 | setuid | Yes, of course =) |
| 03:44.00 | learner | that might actually help in your case if it's related to your timer |
| 03:44.02 | setuid | Let me co the tree |
| 03:45.37 | learner | wow, all of them did on the same day even |
| 03:48.00 | setuid | Whatever happend to the wireframe mode when built with -DDEBUG? Does that still exist? |
| 03:48.18 | setuid | I used to love playing in that mode (before the 3D drivers were working on these laptops) |
| 03:48.32 | setuid | Now I get a nice spiffy 2600+fps, so I don't complain ;) |
| 03:48.55 | learner | it's one of the default selectable display modes now |
| 03:49.08 | setuid | It is? Oh maybe in HEAD, lemme see |
| 03:49.20 | learner | since 1.11 |
| 03:49.33 | setuid | "Experimental"? That mode? |
| 03:49.59 | learner | no, i forget exactly right this sec |
| 03:50.18 | setuid | Hrm, Debian must have patched it out... I looked all over in the config, it wasn't there. |
| 03:50.20 | learner | around the same place as the code that lets you visualize the bsp |
| 03:50.23 | setuid | ah well, no worries |
| 03:50.27 | learner | maybe a debug define |
| 03:50.42 | learner | and i'm just used to it |
| 03:56.35 | setuid | orchid: Can you rejoin hix again? |
| 03:56.42 | orchid | ok |
| 03:56.46 | setuid | oh he shut it down |
| 03:56.49 | setuid | learner: can you restart it? |
| 03:59.13 | learner | gimmie a sec |
| 03:59.18 | learner | trying to figure out why it won't log |
| 04:05.01 | learner | there we go, all better |
| 04:05.10 | learner | helps to write to the right directory |
| 04:05.51 | setuid | Seems to be working now though |
| 04:05.56 | setuid | Just have to turn the annoying effects off |
| 04:08.41 | learner | you mean with the compiled version? or just using different display settings? |
| 04:13.55 | setuid | Small bug in HEAD, but it seems to be working |
| 04:16.27 | setuid | When you get killed, it says something like "Foo was killed by L" |
| 04:16.35 | setuid | instead of "Laser" or "skewerd by ..." |
| 04:20.57 | orchid | did RPG's patch get commited then? wasnt that what he was doing? |
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| 04:38.13 | setuid | Everyone is still jittering all over |
| 04:38.24 | setuid | ah well, thanks for the help |
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| 08:14.57 | guanche | hello all, sorry for this question but were can i find the keyboard keys to play? i just know to move at ground and fire but i have seen some can fly or shoot dierent guns and things so |
| 08:17.03 | DTRemenak | all of the keybindings are listed on the first help page. to use different weapons just pick up the right flag. "flying" is jumping while in midair (press tab multiple times) |
| 08:17.43 | DTRemenak | you need the wings flag to fly, laser flag to fire laser, etc |
| 08:17.52 | guanche | great thank you |
| 08:18.04 | guanche | i dindt know it |
| 08:18.16 | guanche | you mean the white flags? |
| 08:18.36 | DTRemenak | yup |
| 08:18.56 | guanche | have i to drop one to pick up another? |
| 08:18.57 | DTRemenak | drive over them and it will pick it up. to pick up another you have to drop the one you're carrying (spacebar by default) |
| 08:19.06 | guanche | great |
| 08:20.16 | DTRemenak | sure thing. welcome to bzflag :) |
| 08:20.52 | guanche | now it will be so much interesting because i was killed so easy before. :o) GREAT THANK YOU |
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| 11:32.11 | cods | Does someone have the IP address of 'The Punisher' ? I was unable to log its IP (disk full..) and want to ban its entire ISP on my server. |
| 11:34.12 | _Manu_ | he ALLWAYS WIN? :) |
| 11:35.13 | cods | not this time, just some insults. |
| 11:35.28 | cods | I *hate* this guy |
| 11:36.58 | _Manu_ | let me look for it |
| 11:42.26 | DTRemenak | 83.118.22.139 is the only ip I have on record for him |
| 11:43.18 | _Manu_ | DTRemenak, too late ;) |
| 11:43.33 | DTRemenak | meh, whatever |
| 11:43.40 | DTRemenak | saw the question, looked it up |
| 11:43.49 | _Manu_ | I told him in private :) |
| 11:45.41 | ToughShooter | In 1.10.8 he was saying this, too and then I've beaten him >:) |
| 11:59.03 | cods | Banned him for several subnet with "You always lost." message :) |
| 12:18.15 | ToughShooter | I've heard some rumours that he was really really bad when he started... |
| 12:46.23 | Grumbler | whoohoo, its [dmp] |
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| 15:37.43 | a_monkey | hrm |
| 15:37.51 | a_monkey | when i try to update cvs, i get this: |
| 15:37.51 | a_monkey | cvs [update aborted]: end of file from server (consult above messages if any) |
| 15:38.38 | a_monkey | what's this mean? |
| 15:40.05 | meacan | it means that you need to try again later :) |
| 15:40.13 | a_monkey | heheh |
| 15:40.32 | meacan | afaik its the serverend that is having trouble, nothing you can do anything about |
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| 16:05.51 | SportyGal | !weather 90277 |
| 16:05.56 | TheLastSpartan | SportyGal: The current temperature in Redondo Beach, California (90277) is 70°F (8:55 AM PDT on August 24, 2005). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 78%. Dew Point: 63°F. Pressure: 29.84 in (1010 hPa). Visibility: 2.0 miles (3.2 kilometers). UV: 1 out of 16 |
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| 16:07.05 | SportyGal | !weather corfu greece |
| 16:07.08 | TheLastSpartan | SportyGal: The current temperature in Corfu, New York (14036) is 78°F (12:04 PM EDT on August 24, 2005). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 40%. Dew Point: 50°F. UV: 8 out of 16 |
| 16:07.13 | SportyGal | hrmp |
| 16:07.26 | SportyGal | !weather athens,greece |
| 16:07.29 | TheLastSpartan | SportyGal: The current temperature in Athens, Greece is 89°F. Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 32%. Dew Point: 63°F. Pressure: 29.81 in (1009 hPa). Visibility: 9.0 miles (15.0 kilometers). UV: 8 out of 16 |
| 16:07.37 | SportyGal | !weather corfu,greece |
| 16:07.41 | TheLastSpartan | SportyGal: The current temperature in Corfu, New York (14036) is 78°F (12:06 PM EDT on August 24, 2005). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 41%. Dew Point: 51°F. UV: 8 out of 16 |
| 16:07.45 | CBG | lol |
| 16:07.50 | SportyGal | stubborn bot |
| 16:08.08 | CBG | *Stupid bot |
| 16:08.30 | SportyGal | nice photos: http://www.agni.gr/ |
| 16:08.33 | CBG | Yes. :) |
| 16:09.13 | CBG | iF your particularly interested, the resort is "Aghios Gordis" or "Agios Gordios" - dunno why 2 different spellings... |
| 16:09.15 | SportyGal | CBG: where are you based? Europe? Us? |
| 16:09.39 | CBG | Wales, UK. |
| 16:09.47 | CBG | 'twas raining this morning. :/ |
| 16:10.10 | *** part/#bzflag meacan (n=dennis@dahlia.d75.net) |
| 16:11.59 | SportyGal | cool - well have tons of fun |
| 16:12.04 | SportyGal | hehe... |
| 16:13.36 | [Aribeth] | hi SportyGal |
| 16:13.44 | brlcad | SportyGal: is that the one we played? |
| 16:13.56 | SportyGal | ari: hiya |
| 16:14.10 | SportyGal | brlcad: hrmmm...did it have three cards down, three up and three in your hand? |
| 16:14.41 | SportyGal | [Aribeth]: hi |
| 16:15.05 | Aribeth | :) |
| 16:15.16 | SportyGal | !weather 30303 |
| 16:15.19 | TheLastSpartan | SportyGal: The current temperature in Atlanta, Georgia (30303) is 82°F (11:53 AM EDT on August 24, 2005). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 74%. Dew Point: 73°F. Wind: NNE at 6 mph (9 km/h). Pressure: 30.06 in (1018 hPa). Visibility: 5.0 miles (8.0 kilometers). UV: 3 out of 16 |
| 16:15.38 | Aribeth | ~weather 30040 |
| 16:15.46 | Aribeth | !weather 30040 |
| 16:15.48 | TheLastSpartan | Aribeth: The current temperature in Cumming, Georgia (30040) is 75°F (12:00 PM EDT on August 24, 2005). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 91%. Dew Point: 73°F. UV: 3 out of 16 |
| 16:15.52 | SportyGal | Aribeth: 30303 is where I used to live, so I remember it better |
| 16:16.00 | Aribeth | ahh |
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| 16:17.03 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o JeffM2501] by ChanServ |
| 16:17.09 | CBG | hide. |
| 16:17.51 | SportyGal | Aribeth: I've been around, just doing lots of projects at home this month |
| 16:18.02 | Aribeth | ahh, me too |
| 16:18.05 | CBG | wow, you get them done? |
| 16:18.07 | ToughShooter | ping SportyGal |
| 16:18.08 | SportyGal | we got "that room" cleaned out and it looks pretty good now |
| 16:18.13 | SportyGal | ToughShooter: pong |
| 16:18.27 | CBG | I have so many projects, but I never get around to doing _anything_. |
| 16:18.41 | CBG | And the fault is that of all YOU. |
| 16:18.49 | SportyGal | CBG: I had that problem too - but I've made them a priority over bzflag for the month |
| 16:18.58 | CBG | Making a game so damn addicting. :/ |
| 16:19.35 | CBG | *such |
| 16:20.25 | Aribeth | resistance is futile. you will be asimelated |
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| 16:22.48 | Aribeth | cool |
| 16:23.08 | SportyGal | mother-in-laws are useful that way :) |
| 16:23.13 | Aribeth | hehe |
| 16:23.36 | CBG | devils in disguise can be useful? |
| 16:34.53 | orchid | room? |
| 16:37.11 | JeffM2501 | of sorts :) |
| 16:38.02 | JeffM2501 | I keep telling them to use IRC |
| 16:38.10 | JeffM2501 | but they won't |
| 16:38.18 | JeffM2501 | they want a web based chat room |
| 16:38.22 | orchid | eww |
| 16:38.31 | SportyGal | JeffM2501: who are you talking about? |
| 16:38.36 | JeffM2501 | so I'm puting a chatroom link that takes them right to a webIRC that dumps them into #bzchat :) |
| 16:38.47 | orchid | the munchkins SportyGal |
| 16:38.48 | JeffM2501 | SportyGal, mostly the children |
| 16:39.03 | orchid | JeffM2501: good idea actually |
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| 16:45.40 | JeffM2501 | orchid, how well do you know lilo? |
| 16:46.44 | orchid | ive talked to him a few times, but we dont have dinner together or stuff :-) |
| 16:46.54 | JeffM2501 | heh |
| 16:46.55 | orchid | what do you need? |
| 16:47.04 | JeffM2501 | what would be better #bzflagchat or #bzchat |
| 16:47.17 | JeffM2501 | as #bzchat is chikas channel, and I don't have perms to reset anything |
| 16:47.24 | orchid | dont one of them already exist? |
| 16:47.26 | orchid | oh |
| 16:47.38 | JeffM2501 | noone uses #bzchat |
| 16:47.47 | JeffM2501 | but it is registered |
| 16:48.06 | JeffM2501 | ether we get the password from her, or get an admin to reset it for us |
| 16:48.11 | JeffM2501 | or we use something else |
| 16:49.04 | orchid | hmm, lilo probably wont reset it just cos we cant get hold of chiko |
| 16:49.15 | JeffM2501 | it's been dead a long time |
| 16:49.16 | JeffM2501 | I know |
| 16:49.27 | JeffM2501 | that's why I'm thinking we use #bzflagchat |
| 16:50.10 | orchid | yeah you have control then |
| 16:50.22 | orchid | bzchat is cuter though |
| 16:50.41 | orchid | hmm 48 weeks |
| 16:51.51 | orchid | urg she was here 1 day ago |
| 16:51.59 | JeffM2501 | anyone know how to mod a perl CGI? |
| 16:52.00 | orchid | try pm in the forum first |
| 16:52.07 | Birdie | i can reach her if yo uwant |
| 16:52.08 | JeffM2501 | k |
| 16:52.14 | Birdie | she was here yesterday |
| 16:52.18 | orchid | hi Birdie |
| 16:52.19 | JeffM2501 | Birdie, if you can that would be great |
| 16:52.21 | menotume | maybe lilo can help |
| 16:52.25 | Birdie | and she gave the channel to me and theredbaron |
| 16:52.28 | JeffM2501 | basicly I need the password for #bzchat |
| 16:52.33 | JeffM2501 | oh |
| 16:52.41 | Birdie | well not totally cause she forgot the channelpassoword:) |
| 16:52.45 | JeffM2501 | then can I get the password? or can you set it up for pps and stuff? |
| 16:52.46 | menotume | lol |
| 16:52.52 | JeffM2501 | so noone knows the password? |
| 16:52.56 | Birdie | lol no |
| 16:52.58 | Birdie | only she did |
| 16:53.01 | Birdie | used to.. |
| 16:53.05 | JeffM2501 | are you the registeed owner? |
| 16:53.09 | Birdie | but she changed password through years so.. |
| 16:53.11 | Birdie | yes |
| 16:53.13 | orchid | oh lilo can fix that then |
| 16:53.49 | Birdie | lilo can find out the password? |
| 16:53.52 | JeffM2501 | well I'll do the bb side if somone can get the channel set up |
| 16:53.52 | Birdie | and hello orchid:) |
| 16:53.58 | JeffM2501 | lilo can reset it :) |
| 16:54.13 | Birdie | ah |
| 16:54.31 | Birdie | i'll give you, myself, and trb full control over it |
| 16:54.45 | Birdie | after lilo resetted it |
| 16:55.25 | JeffM2501 | cool |
| 16:55.33 | a_monkey | hmm |
| 16:55.35 | menotume | Birdie, you are not the registered owner :) |
| 16:55.36 | JeffM2501 | as long as somone has the ability to reign it in |
| 16:55.40 | a_monkey | why is the radar square anyways? |
| 16:55.42 | Birdie | i'm not? |
| 16:55.45 | menotume | no |
| 16:55.47 | a_monkey | shouldn't it be circular like most |
| 16:55.52 | Birdie | strange.. |
| 16:55.59 | JeffM2501 | a_monkey, because that's how it was writen |
| 16:56.09 | a_monkey | i know. lol |
| 16:56.18 | JeffM2501 | so you want it like this? |
| 16:56.18 | JeffM2501 | http://myth.gibbscam.com/temp/clouds2.jpg |
| 16:56.22 | menotume | a circle in a square would be a waste of real esatet |
| 16:56.37 | a_monkey | well where's the source code file that render the radar anyways |
| 16:56.53 | JeffM2501 | how else would it be rendered? |
| 16:57.47 | a_monkey | yes, like that, JeffM2501 |
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| 17:01.14 | menotume | RadarRenderer.cxx ? |
| 17:08.47 | JeffM2501 | anyone know perl? |
| 17:08.57 | JeffM2501 | a_monkey, making a round radar is not simple :) |
| 17:09.00 | JeffM2501 | I know I've done it |
| 17:09.01 | jpa_ | python is cuter :) |
| 17:09.08 | JeffM2501 | jpa_, that was the question |
| 17:09.20 | JeffM2501 | I have a perl IRC script that needs modification |
| 17:10.14 | orchid | jpa_ knows perl |
| 17:10.23 | jpa_ | i do not |
| 17:10.38 | jpa_ | atleast i don't know i do |
| 17:11.12 | JeffM2501 | basicly I want to make bzbb pass in the forum username to the cgi when the user clicks on the button if they are loged in, and have the GCI use that username, and auto login |
| 17:11.34 | JeffM2501 | I'm moding the template now to get the username |
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| 17:22.42 | a_monkey | there was this really cool patch i found a few days ago |
| 17:23.03 | a_monkey | it made the radar appear, not at the lower left part of the screen but smack dab in the middle |
| 17:23.06 | a_monkey | of the screen |
| 17:23.07 | a_monkey | really huge |
| 17:23.11 | a_monkey | now i can't find it |
| 17:23.23 | a_monkey | does anyone know what i'm talking about? |
| 17:30.25 | a_monkey | darn |
| 17:30.37 | a_monkey | i remember where i found it: the hepcat forums |
| 17:30.44 | a_monkey | and they just shut down that server |
| 17:32.15 | JeffM2501 | just need the cgi IRC to be moded then it'll be done :) |
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| 17:38.18 | JeffM2501 | damn, and I got the font on the button right too :) |
| 17:38.49 | JeffM2501 | DTRemenak, wakeup! |
| 17:44.56 | JeffM2501 | or a shoutout to anyone who knows perl |
| 17:45.02 | JeffM2501 | ther has to be somone |
| 17:45.08 | JeffM2501 | some CGI master out there |
| 17:46.03 | jpa_ | i know CGI :P |
| 17:47.22 | JeffM2501 | in perl? |
| 17:47.48 | jpa_ | nope |
| 17:48.01 | jpa_ | (said that already :) |
| 17:48.03 | JeffM2501 | got a python IRC script? |
| 17:48.06 | JeffM2501 | that you can mod? |
| 17:48.12 | JeffM2501 | don't really care what is used |
| 17:48.16 | JeffM2501 | so long as it works |
| 17:48.21 | jpa_ | humm.. IRC script like for a client or a client etc? |
| 17:48.36 | JeffM2501 | yeah makes a webclient |
| 17:49.21 | JeffM2501 | the one we have now is perl |
| 17:49.33 | JeffM2501 | and I want to mod it, so that if I pass in a username, it auto logs in with that username |
| 17:50.32 | jpa_ | sorry. |
| 17:50.49 | JeffM2501 | not your fualt :) |
| 17:51.34 | jpa_ | no, i'm sorry for you being forced to use perl ,) |
| 17:52.00 | DTRemenak | JeffM2501, where did you get the impression I know perl? :) |
| 17:52.50 | jpa_ | one could say that is an insult |
| 17:52.55 | JeffM2501 | because you are uber smart and in caltech |
| 17:52.57 | JeffM2501 | and all that stuff |
| 17:53.39 | DTRemenak | heh |
| 17:53.44 | DTRemenak | actually I like perl |
| 17:53.46 | DTRemenak | but I suck at it |
| 17:53.55 | JeffM2501 | just need one thing |
| 17:54.01 | JeffM2501 | tho meno is working on it too |
| 17:54.28 | DTRemenak | all my perl knowledge comes from a big blue book on the shelf |
| 17:54.47 | ToughShooter | ~de en über |
| 17:54.52 | JeffM2501 | dude at least you have the book |
| 17:55.00 | DTRemenak | I do have the book :) |
| 17:55.02 | ToughShooter | ~x de en über |
| 17:56.16 | JeffM2501 | UBER! |
| 17:56.32 | JeffM2501 | DTRemenak, mostly I wanted to know if you knew anyone who would know? :) |
| 17:56.37 | jpa_ | über! |
| 17:57.04 | JeffM2501 | DTRemenak, we are trying to mod a copy of the IRC script to auto login if a username is passed in via a get param |
| 17:57.14 | DTRemenak | I know this blue rectangular prism with the approximate density of wood who might know :) |
| 17:57.20 | jpa_ | JeffM2501: abi on #hug-bunny knows perl, but i don't want to help perl spread |
| 17:57.22 | JeffM2501 | so that the new chat room button on the forums will auto send peopel to #bzchat with there forum user |
| 17:57.39 | DTRemenak | jpa_, got something against perl? |
| 17:57.46 | jpa_ | yeah, it is ugly |
| 17:57.53 | DTRemenak | no, it's beautiful |
| 17:58.18 | jpa_ | python is more beautiful |
| 17:58.50 | jpa_ | *!¤#!"¤!1515!//7$£2^ |
| 17:58.54 | jpa_ | isn't beautiful. |
| 17:59.19 | DTRemenak | python is pretty in a sydney-opera-house sort of way. perl is pretty in a sistine-chapel sort of way. |
| 18:00.13 | ToughShooter | What advantages has Perl? |
| 18:01.55 | jpa_ | perl can be used to make obscure one-liners |
| 18:01.57 | jpa_ | perl -e '$/=""; $_=<>; s/<!--.*?-->//gs; print $_;' |
| 18:02.37 | ToughShooter | For string manipulation Haskell is the way to go :p |
| 18:02.38 | JeffM2501 | god language wars are stupid |
| 18:02.47 | JeffM2501 | how about actualy helping with the problem jpa_ :) |
| 18:03.31 | jpa_ | against my religion ,) |
| 18:04.13 | JeffM2501 | meno got the script to take the username and fill it into the field, now we just need to make it auto login if that happens |
| 18:04.59 | DTRemenak | you'll have to shortcut the login page iff the fields are specified in the calling url |
| 18:05.15 | DTRemenak | can't push buttons for the user (without nasty tricks) |
| 18:05.28 | JeffM2501 | well you don't have to push the button I don't think |
| 18:05.33 | menotume | DTR - that can be skipped |
| 18:05.35 | JeffM2501 | just do what ever the button push does |
| 18:05.39 | menotume | right |
| 18:05.41 | DTRemenak | yup |
| 18:05.53 | JeffM2501 | the button push just calls another URL |
| 18:05.54 | DTRemenak | k, I misread your statement then |
| 18:06.00 | menotume | just have to fill in some values, and make it look like they were CGI POSTS |
| 18:06.24 | JeffM2501 | basicly I don't want the login page if it comes from the forums |
| 18:06.40 | JeffM2501 | how ever that can be done |
| 18:13.06 | purple_cow | what things? |
| 18:13.15 | menotume | let's try this ... |
| 18:13.18 | menotume | perl sux !! |
| 18:13.31 | JeffM2501 | purple_cow, moding the perl cgi IRC script |
| 18:13.45 | JeffM2501 | to automaitly login if we pass in a username as a paramater |
| 18:14.03 | JeffM2501 | meno got it to fill in the nickname field from the passed in param |
| 18:14.24 | menotume | if no one else can do it, i'm sure i can - but it'll take time, i don't know the syntax |
| 18:14.49 | menotume | ~purple_cow++ :D |
| 18:14.57 | purple_cow | i've *already* spent too much of my life wrestling with its stupid scoping model |
| 18:15.21 | menotume | what scope ? :) |
| 18:15.25 | JeffM2501 | hey I'd allso be cool with replacing that cgi IRC script with somethg else, as long as it does what I need |
| 18:15.44 | purple_cow | oh, it does scope, but you can choose whether you want something to be statically or dynamically scoped |
| 18:15.52 | purple_cow | (crack is bad, mmk?) |
| 18:16.46 | purple_cow | JeffM2501: dunno. i'm in favor of completely eliminating CGI-IRC ;) |
| 18:17.25 | JeffM2501 | I know you are |
| 18:17.32 | JeffM2501 | but on this one, I am not sending them HERE |
| 18:17.37 | JeffM2501 | they go to there own place |
| 18:17.39 | menotume | make it a link to http://gaim.sourceforge.net/ |
| 18:17.48 | JeffM2501 | gaim blows for IRC |
| 18:17.56 | DTRemenak | gaim is the worst irc client ever |
| 18:18.00 | menotume | ohhh, right - i meant xchat |
| 18:18.17 | JeffM2501 | actualy I think I may be able to do this with out any cgi mods |
| 18:18.55 | menotume | JeffM2501: it's possible, if you do a POST, and value all the fields ... |
| 18:19.12 | menotume | one sec |
| 18:19.31 | JeffM2501 | that's what I'm looking into |
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| 18:20.35 | menotume | look in #bzcgat :) |
| 18:20.38 | menotume | #bzchat |
| 18:23.33 | brlcad | TimRiker: *ping*, would you add blast007 to the project and give him commit access? |
| 18:24.02 | brlcad | TimRiker: I'm sure there are others that can vouche for him as well |
| 18:24.56 | DTRemenak | aye, there are |
| 18:25.04 | TD-Linux | TimRiker isn't here |
| 18:25.12 | TD-Linux | I tried /msg |
| 18:25.24 | DTRemenak | he will see the message eventually |
| 18:25.40 | TD-Linux | oh, he sorts through all this when he comes back? |
| 18:26.13 | menotume | best to email him, i think |
| 18:26.18 | brlcad | sometimes |
| 18:26.18 | JeffM2501 | we got it to work sans cgi changes :) |
| 18:26.20 | TD-Linux | I just did a bb PM |
| 18:26.23 | menotume | harder to forget then :) |
| 18:26.29 | menotume | ahhh, good |
| 18:26.47 | brlcad | TD-Linux: heh, i bet he reads that with even less frequency |
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| 18:27.00 | brlcad | he's at work is all |
| 18:27.10 | TD-Linux | he works? :) |
| 18:30.02 | bryjen | ~bryjen |
| 18:30.06 | ibot | you are, like, the owner of the KY,US server |
| 18:30.12 | bryjen | menotume |
| 18:30.30 | menotume | yes sir |
| 18:31.14 | menotume | ahhh |
| 18:31.29 | menotume | :) |
| 18:31.39 | menotume | who was I thinking of, a dev in Philadelphia |
| 18:31.45 | menotume | i can't remember |
| 18:34.01 | orchid | ~emulate stewie |
| 18:34.03 | ibot | I come bearing a gift. I'll give you a hint. It's in my diaper, and it's not a toaster. |
| 18:35.13 | JeffM2501 | TheLastSpartan, join #bzchat |
| 18:36.02 | *** join/#bzflag DTRemenak (n=Daniel_R@DHCP-170-143.caltech.edu) |
| 18:36.06 | PKMOBILE | ~emulate peter |
| 18:36.08 | ibot | Now, I know you're a feminist, and I think that's adorable, but this is grown-up time and I'm the man. |
| 18:36.13 | DTRemenak | oops |
| 18:36.16 | PKMOBILE | hahaha |
| 18:41.13 | *** topic/#bzflag by JeffM2501 -> http://BZFlag.org/ || http://my.BZFlag.org/bb/ || http://my.BZFlag.org/ || http://cia.navi.cx/stats/project/BZFlag || http://BZFlag.org/wiki/GettingHelp || http://BZFlag.org/wiki/Download || http://bzflag.org/wiki/MapMaking || try #bzchat |
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| 18:44.16 | I_Died_Once | Yo |
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| 18:51.00 | menotume | learner, can you join #bzchat please ? |
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| 19:10.41 | DTRemenak | ~yawn |
| 19:10.43 | ibot | *YAWN* I get *YAWN* tired just thinking of large boxes of unknown substances being poured into nooks and crannies and eaten by little monsters that like to kill fluffy bunnies and oh god I'm tired.. |
| 19:16.52 | bryjen | ~dream |
| 19:16.53 | ibot | ACTION rolls over and envisions being hosted on the MCR cluster in LLNL with a load of 1 |
| 19:17.31 | DTRemenak | ok, well that answers that |
| 19:17.31 | menotume | i guess they do |
| 19:17.54 | purple_cow | heh |
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| 19:38.25 | brlcad | anyone else having trouble commiting? |
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| 19:50.08 | Pimpinella | didn't try commiting, but updating times out for me |
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| 19:51.36 | _Manu_ | my last commit was yesterday |
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| 19:52.47 | Crueldog | hi |
| 19:52.58 | CBG | hi |
| 19:53.17 | slugkilla | hi |
| 19:53.21 | Crueldog | ok |
| 19:53.33 | slugkilla | i got a server question |
| 19:53.53 | CBG | ok... |
| 19:53.59 | slugkilla | some tanks become unkillable on my server |
| 19:54.14 | slugkilla | and most have low lag |
| 19:54.21 | JeffM2501 | you behind a router/ |
| 19:54.27 | slugkilla | and i dont think they are cheating |
| 19:54.30 | slugkilla | yes |
| 19:54.32 | _Manu_ | brlcad, heh.. I can't nor update now :/ |
| 19:54.40 | JeffM2501 | is that router set up to handle UDP as well as TCP? |
| 19:54.55 | JeffM2501 | for your route to the server |
| 19:54.56 | slugkilla | um i hope so... |
| 19:55.00 | JeffM2501 | it better be |
| 19:55.08 | JeffM2501 | UDP packetloss can cause problems like that |
| 19:55.10 | slugkilla | i have players that are udp |
| 19:55.28 | JeffM2501 | but is your routers set up to route UDP |
| 19:55.34 | JeffM2501 | bzflag uses both UDP and TCP |
| 19:55.44 | CBG | You remember forwarding any ports? |
| 19:55.51 | slugkilla | yes |
| 19:55.58 | slugkilla | i forwarded 5154 |
| 19:56.00 | CBG | You have to forward the port to your machine for TCP AND UDP. |
| 19:56.14 | slugkilla | it did not give me a choice |
| 19:56.28 | Crueldog | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:57.04 | Crueldog | brb |
| 19:57.59 | JeffM2501 | slugkilla, what router is it? |
| 19:58.29 | slugkilla | netgear |
| 19:58.45 | slugkilla | i got my webbase stuff pulled up |
| 19:59.05 | CBG | I have netgear,.. |
| 19:59.07 | CBG | lemme look. |
| 19:59.15 | brlcad | _Manu_: it's going.. just unbearably slow |
| 19:59.38 | _Manu_ | brlcad, heh.. I stoped... I'm not so patient :) |
| 19:59.41 | brlcad | 15 min to commit a single file kind of slow |
| 20:00.08 | slugkilla | 5154 is fowarded but there is no spot for tcp or udp |
| 20:00.28 | _Manu_ | may be it was checking your code carefully before update.. hehe |
| 20:00.35 | CBG | There is! |
| 20:00.40 | CBG | I have netgear... |
| 20:00.59 | slugkilla | ok please help me out:) |
| 20:01.00 | CBG | slugkilla: get to the netgear smart wizard |
| 20:01.09 | CBG | try 192.168.1.1/start.htm |
| 20:01.28 | slugkilla | i have my webbased stuff up |
| 20:01.41 | CBG | you have the "smart wizard"? |
| 20:02.01 | slugkilla | no |
| 20:02.09 | slugkilla | is that web based |
| 20:02.15 | CBG | Yes. |
| 20:02.19 | CBG | go to 192.168.1.1/start.htm in your browser. |
| 20:02.24 | slugkilla | ok |
| 20:02.29 | brlcad | _Manu_: probably :) |
| 20:03.21 | slugkilla | that does not work |
| 20:03.45 | slugkilla | maybe your router is differant |
| 20:04.09 | Crueldog | i'm back |
| 20:04.29 | CBG | try http://192.168.1.1/ slugkilla |
| 20:04.42 | JeffM2501 | thansks for the update Crueldog, my life is now complete |
| 20:04.43 | slugkilla | i have 192.168.0.1 working |
| 20:04.48 | Crueldog | ok |
| 20:04.55 | Crueldog | it's a d-link |
| 20:05.09 | Crueldog | eh, linksys |
| 20:05.31 | slugkilla | not your router crueldog |
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| 20:05.35 | CBG | slugkilla: you see the SmartWizard? |
| 20:05.48 | Crueldog | if .0.1, it's a d-link |
| 20:06.01 | slugkilla | i see me routers web base settings thing |
| 20:06.09 | CBG | slugkilla: good. |
| 20:06.11 | slugkilla | its not called smartwizard |
| 20:06.32 | CBG | okay, look for a link to Port Forwarding / Port Triggering or something similar |
| 20:06.49 | slugkilla | got it |
| 20:06.52 | CBG | click it |
| 20:07.10 | slugkilla | i have bzflag forwarded on 5154 |
| 20:07.12 | CBG | now find a button saying "add custom service" or something. |
| 20:07.17 | CBG | ok wait |
| 20:07.24 | slugkilla | yep thats what i did |
| 20:07.28 | CBG | click the button next to the bzflag service |
| 20:07.34 | CBG | and then "Edit Service" |
| 20:07.48 | slugkilla | ok |
| 20:07.52 | slugkilla | got it up |
| 20:08.06 | CBG | see the "service type" ? |
| 20:08.12 | CBG | drop down menu... |
| 20:08.25 | Crueldog | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:08.50 | slugkilla | nope |
| 20:09.02 | CBG | can you take a screenshot of what you see please? |
| 20:09.03 | slugkilla | mine does not have that |
| 20:09.11 | slugkilla | ok |
| 20:09.15 | CBG | thanks ;) |
| 20:10.08 | slugkilla | ok took it |
| 20:10.12 | slugkilla | got the png |
| 20:10.17 | CBG | can you send it over IRC? |
| 20:10.35 | CBG | or would you prefer to email it? |
| 20:10.40 | slugkilla | im on the web based bzflag irc |
| 20:10.49 | CBG | ok, email it? |
| 20:11.00 | slugkilla | whats your email |
| 20:11.01 | CBG | cannonballguy@gmail.com |
| 20:11.13 | CBG | or do what toughshooter said... |
| 20:13.13 | slugkilla | i did the imageshackthing thing |
| 20:13.20 | slugkilla | i pressed upload |
| 20:13.26 | slugkilla | is that it? |
| 20:13.41 | CBG | tell us the url |
| 20:14.03 | slugkilla | http://img129.imageshack.us/my.php?image=netgear2zr.png |
| 20:14.30 | slugkilla | no that doesnt work |
| 20:14.39 | CBG | it does. |
| 20:14.54 | JeffM2501 | wow netgears suck |
| 20:15.05 | JeffM2501 | he may have a difrent revision then you CBG |
| 20:15.06 | CBG | JeffM2501: why? |
| 20:15.09 | CBG | he does. |
| 20:15.14 | slugkilla | it dows work? |
| 20:15.28 | CBG | Mine has an option for TCP, or UPD, or TCP and UDP. ... |
| 20:15.36 | CBG | slugkilla: maybe your router is older... :( |
| 20:15.41 | slugkilla | all it does is take me to microsoft.com what a slape iot the facce |
| 20:15.54 | slugkilla | like 2 years |
| 20:15.55 | CBG | it works for me. |
| 20:16.02 | CBG | 2 yrs? that might be it |
| 20:16.07 | CBG | mine is about 2 weeks old. :D |
| 20:16.25 | slugkilla | hmmm maybe i can update the firmware.... |
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| 20:16.35 | JeffM2501 | slugkilla, there may be an update that will help you out |
| 20:16.43 | JeffM2501 | many older routers didn't do UDP |
| 20:17.55 | slugkilla | well, i know when i do /playerlist it say UDP next to some of the players |
| 20:18.17 | JeffM2501 | that just means the client is UDP enabled |
| 20:18.24 | JeffM2501 | not that you actualy got any UDP packets |
| 20:18.38 | JeffM2501 | all clients are UDP enabled now |
| 20:18.51 | slugkilla | oh and i should meantion |
| 20:18.59 | JeffM2501 | the only rason it's listed is because old old bz used to have it asn an option |
| 20:19.06 | slugkilla | once they rejoin they are fixed for a while |
| 20:19.18 | slugkilla | oh |
| 20:19.27 | DTRemenak | if udp is marked then at least the udp negotiation went through |
| 20:19.41 | DTRemenak | which iirc is over udp |
| 20:20.13 | JeffM2501 | maybe the router is just droping them a lot then |
| 20:20.17 | JeffM2501 | some have crap UDP support |
| 20:20.21 | slugkilla | ok so what else come becuaseing the unkillables |
| 20:20.32 | JeffM2501 | a firmware update may still help |
| 20:20.41 | slugkilla | ok ill do that |
| 20:21.27 | DTRemenak | firmware updates frequently help stuff like that |
| 20:21.42 | DTRemenak | "oh check it out, our buggy firmware drops packets like a seive. wanna fix it?" |
| 20:21.49 | DTRemenak | "naw, let's release it first, fix it later" |
| 20:22.08 | slugkilla | lol |
| 20:22.42 | slugkilla | well thank u all, u have been a big help |
| 20:23.00 | JeffM2501 | and you don't see stuff in the release notes that say "fixed horible bug that made the stuff not work at all" |
| 20:23.20 | DTRemenak | only if it's open source :) |
| 20:23.20 | CBG | slugkilla: sorry I can't help more... |
| 20:23.25 | slugkilla | i may get on later and tell u if the update fixed it |
| 20:23.33 | slugkilla | thats ok |
| 20:23.48 | slugkilla | i would have never thought of the router |
| 20:24.14 | slugkilla | bbl |
| 20:24.46 | CBG | cya :) good luck |
| 20:29.25 | slugkilla | i think i mess stuff up! |
| 20:29.30 | CBG | :o |
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| 20:33.44 | brlcad | DTRemenak: pretty pictures :) |
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| 20:33.54 | slugkilla | hi |
| 20:33.58 | BenUrban | of course not, lol |
| 20:34.08 | JeffM2501 | DTRemenak, BenUrban disagrees with most things |
| 20:34.16 | BenUrban | if i knew i wouldn't have bothered to say anything |
| 20:34.20 | slugkilla | is cbg still here? |
| 20:34.24 | CBG | Sure. |
| 20:34.26 | brlcad | visualizing 750k lines of code in brl-cad was pretty sweet |
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| 20:34.30 | DTRemenak | heh |
| 20:34.43 | DTRemenak | spose you don't have a link? |
| 20:34.48 | brlcad | not yet |
| 20:34.52 | DTRemenak | figures :) |
| 20:34.53 | brlcad | takes a while to render |
| 20:34.59 | DTRemenak | taunt us with all this talk about pretty pictures |
| 20:35.07 | brlcad | i have some test images, but there's not much to them |
| 20:35.20 | DTRemenak | I meant to brlcad's, actually. suppose I should have switched channels to ask :) |
| 20:35.30 | CBG | slugkilla: whats up? |
| 20:36.39 | brlcad | DTRemenak: here's a single file before a few fixes and tweaks -- it's also before any sort of artistic post-processing or logo/title overlay effects that really make it look cool |
| 20:36.46 | brlcad | DTRemenak: http://bzflag.bz/tmp/out.png |
| 20:37.20 | DTRemenak | interesting |
| 20:37.27 | CBG | :/ |
| 20:37.36 | JeffM2501 | what exactly does it do? |
| 20:38.14 | TD-Linux | that PNG looks like a scrambled mess |
| 20:38.25 | DTRemenak | so do you, but I'm not complaining |
| 20:38.31 | DTRemenak | err, I mean |
| 20:38.56 | TD-Linux | :) |
| 20:39.22 | brlcad | JeffM2501: it takes a body of code, like bz's -- it's all colorized and concatenated and processed |
| 20:39.45 | brlcad | then renders the colorized text directly to image with some specified aspect ratio |
| 20:39.50 | JeffM2501 | the coloring mean anyting? |
| 20:39.58 | TD-Linux | why the strip of red in the middle? |
| 20:40.00 | trepan | green for strings, etc... |
| 20:40.03 | brlcad | yeah |
| 20:40.07 | DTRemenak | red is comments |
| 20:40.07 | brlcad | red are comments |
| 20:40.20 | JeffM2501 | ahh ok |
| 20:40.21 | TD-Linux | what about black? |
| 20:40.25 | DTRemenak | you could do the same thing in vc by stripping linebreaks :P |
| 20:40.45 | brlcad | DTRemenak: yeah, and render to image? |
| 20:40.53 | DTRemenak | brlcad, "print screen" |
| 20:40.54 | trepan | brlcad: why? |
| 20:40.55 | DTRemenak | :P |
| 20:41.04 | brlcad | DTRemenak: for 750k lines of code? :) |
| 20:41.08 | DTRemenak | I imagine the cool part is the postprocessing |
| 20:41.45 | brlcad | for larger bodies of code, you start seeing patterns across files and directories |
| 20:41.49 | TD-Linux | oops - my web browser shrunk the image so it looked like a bunch of colored dots |
| 20:41.50 | DTRemenak | although it could be fun to make it really tiny so you get a perspective-thing |
| 20:41.56 | TD-Linux | I zoomed in and see what it is nwo |
| 20:41.58 | DTRemenak | yeah, like that |
| 20:42.17 | brlcad | DTRemenak: actually that is part of the point -- the image is large because it's intended for 600 or 1200 dpi printing, not computer displays |
| 20:42.26 | DTRemenak | yeah |
| 20:42.57 | brlcad | my base image for brl-cad's code is 46848 x 29270 pixels |
| 20:43.25 | brlcad | or in this latest render, 96000 x 14283 |
| 20:43.27 | BenUrban | you're insane |
| 20:43.54 | CBG | BenUrban: you're orange. O.o |
| 20:43.58 | brlcad | that'll be a 2 foott by 13 feet poster, with the text barely readable by the naked eye |
| 20:44.03 | BenUrban | no, orange is orange |
| 20:44.15 | TD-Linux | ~BenUrbam |
| 20:44.22 | TD-Linux | ~BenUrban |
| 20:44.36 | CBG | BenUrban: you'r definatly a pale orange... |
| 20:44.51 | BenUrban | looks white to me |
| 20:44.58 | BenUrban | with purple < and > |
| 20:45.09 | ToughShooter | ~CBG |
| 20:45.11 | ibot | rumour has it, cbg is an ass, a prat and a retard |
| 20:45.11 | CBG | I can take a screenshot... |
| 20:45.14 | BenUrban | haha |
| 20:45.26 | CBG | ibot cbg is also stupid |
| 20:45.27 | ibot | okay, CBG |
| 20:45.39 | ToughShooter | It wasn't me who has set this.. |
| 20:45.52 | CBG | ToughShooter: I know. ;) |
| 20:46.21 | brlcad | DTRemenak: it's also fun to play with other fonts, since I can render with any -- but for this poster, I actually used profont :) |
| 20:46.30 | DTRemenak | heh :) |
| 20:47.13 | brlcad | but yeah, the best is really the post processed overlays |
| 20:48.30 | trepan | brlcad: wonder what a visualization with a pixel per line, colored by indentation, control keywords, comments, etc.. would look like |
| 20:48.51 | BenUrban | it would look like a waste of time |
| 20:48.56 | BenUrban | sorry, i had to say it |
| 20:49.51 | brlcad | trepan: I did something simiar with a pixel per character but without coloring, it's pretty neat too |
| 20:50.08 | brlcad | but tends to be lots of bands of randomish noise |
| 20:50.23 | brlcad | actually just zooming out this image a lot looks a lot like that too |
| 20:51.52 | CBG | Mmm, blooood, :) |
| 20:52.18 | BenUrban | ~cbg |
| 20:52.19 | ibot | extra, extra, read all about it, cbg is an ass, a prat and a retard, or stupid |
| 20:52.28 | brad2901 | lol.. |
| 20:52.30 | BenUrban | heh |
| 20:52.32 | brad2901 | so true |
| 20:52.34 | brad2901 | :) |
| 20:52.44 | CBG | :) |
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| 20:52.56 | BenUrban | ... |
| 20:53.29 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o DTRemenak] by ChanServ |
| 20:53.35 | DTRemenak | oh yeah? |
| 20:53.39 | DTRemenak | ;) |
| 20:54.01 | *** mode/#bzflag [-o DTRemenak] by DTRemenak |
| 20:54.08 | BenUrban | see? |
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| 20:54.38 | slugkilla | this thing on |
| 20:55.00 | slugkilla | i did not work before |
| 20:55.04 | slugkilla | *it |
| 20:55.05 | BenUrban | lol |
| 20:55.28 | slugkilla | ya CGB u still here? |
| 20:55.47 | slugkilla | i updated my firmware and my server crashed |
| 20:56.04 | slugkilla | but it works now |
| 20:56.10 | slugkilla | i think |
| 20:57.14 | slugkilla | where did everyone go? |
| 20:57.49 | slugkilla | i have the "port triggering" feature now |
| 20:57.52 | JeffM2501 | they just didn't type |
| 20:58.01 | JeffM2501 | you don't need to trigger anything |
| 20:58.03 | JeffM2501 | just set your route |
| 20:58.06 | JeffM2501 | and see if it works |
| 20:58.12 | CBG | slugkilla: better now? |
| 20:58.12 | CBG | ok, cool |
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| 20:58.24 | slugkilla | yay people |
| 20:58.28 | CBG | on my setup it has "Port forwarding/Triggering" as one option. |
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| 20:58.42 | slugkilla | i have 2 options now |
| 20:59.28 | CBG | You should forward not trigger. |
| 20:59.30 | slugkilla | i only have 3 people on my server so i dont know if it helped or not |
| 20:59.34 | slugkilla | ok |
| 21:00.04 | slugkilla | it still does not give me the tcp or udp option under port forwarding |
| 21:00.16 | CBG | bah |
| 21:01.36 | brlcad | wow |
| 21:01.44 | brlcad | 242k lines in bz now :) |
| 21:01.48 | DTRemenak | heh :) |
| 21:01.49 | slugkilla | maybe my updateing will automaticaly add udp |
| 21:01.55 | brlcad | it's gone up |
| 21:02.17 | brlcad | a lot of file headers/footers in that i'm sure :) |
| 21:02.25 | DTRemenak | yup :) |
| 21:02.27 | JeffM2501 | how big are we now? |
| 21:02.37 | JeffM2501 | pfft only 1/4 mill |
| 21:02.48 | slugkilla | if i could program better i would totally help out |
| 21:02.50 | DTRemenak | wasn't there some formula to figure project-cost from loc and years? |
| 21:03.25 | JeffM2501 | if I could program worse I'd totaly help out |
| 21:03.35 | DTRemenak | heh |
| 21:04.03 | slugkilla | man that modletool thing is awesome |
| 21:04.11 | JeffM2501 | it is? |
| 21:04.15 | slugkilla | u made it right? |
| 21:04.20 | DTRemenak | heh |
| 21:04.31 | JeffM2501 | tho it has the best obj parser I've made yet |
| 21:04.32 | DTRemenak | is that your qualification for awesomeness? :) |
| 21:04.34 | JeffM2501 | thanks to trepans help |
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| 21:05.03 | slugkilla | i made a slug object and put it in my map |
| 21:05.09 | notCBG | ~CBG |
| 21:05.11 | ibot | [cbg] an ass, a prat and a retard, or stupid |
| 21:05.15 | notCBG | haha. :) |
| 21:05.15 | CBG | heh :) |
| 21:05.23 | brlcad | CBG: yeah, sloccount |
| 21:05.45 | notCBG | ~DTRemenak |
| 21:05.46 | ibot | There are 10 kinds of people: those who know binary, and those who don't. |
| 21:05.50 | JeffM2501 | I even moved that obj parser to UGF |
| 21:06.15 | slugkilla | UGF? |
| 21:06.18 | brlcad | hmm.. emacs disagrees with wc |
| 21:06.24 | brlcad | i think the wide characters are confusing wc |
| 21:06.25 | DTRemenak | brlcad, hm |
| 21:06.31 | brlcad | emacs says 173k lines |
| 21:06.32 | DTRemenak | we have wide characters? |
| 21:06.42 | slugkilla | allthough i had a hard time compiling... |
| 21:06.42 | brlcad | some yeah |
| 21:06.51 | DTRemenak | where? |
| 21:08.36 | JeffM2501 | ugf! |
| 21:08.41 | JeffM2501 | or was it ogf |
| 21:08.41 | DTRemenak | ~ugf |
| 21:08.44 | DTRemenak | heh |
| 21:08.44 | JeffM2501 | it was OGF |
| 21:08.46 | DTRemenak | ogf :) |
| 21:08.47 | JeffM2501 | open |
| 21:08.49 | DTRemenak | ~ogf |
| 21:08.50 | JeffM2501 | not universal |
| 21:08.58 | DTRemenak | hm, ibot doesn't know about that either |
| 21:09.08 | DTRemenak | you should always tell ibot about your projects :) |
| 21:09.32 | JeffM2501 | DTRemenak, then ibot would be out of memory |
| 21:09.44 | slugkilla | the cvs thing said modeltool is pure evil |
| 21:10.08 | DTRemenak | ~factstats |
| 21:10.14 | slugkilla | but that 3d slug look perrity good |
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| 21:16.38 | *** topic/#bzflag is http://BZFlag.org/ || http://my.BZFlag.org/bb/ || http://my.BZFlag.org/ || http://cia.navi.cx/stats/project/BZFlag || http://BZFlag.org/wiki/GettingHelp || http://BZFlag.org/wiki/Download || http://bzflag.org/wiki/MapMaking || try #bzchat |
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| 21:16.43 | slugkilla | yeah i looked it up |
| 21:16.47 | iCBG | agh |
| 21:16.47 | DTRemenak | yay ibot |
| 21:16.57 | DTRemenak | ibot rocks |
| 21:16.58 | ibot | you bet your perl modules I do! |
| 21:17.01 | slugkilla | last log entry pure pure undocumented EVIL I tell you. |
| 21:17.23 | slugkilla | hi ibot |
| 21:17.34 | Birdie | lol DTR you learned him that sentence? |
| 21:17.49 | DTRemenak | ~factinfo rocks |
| 21:17.49 | ibot | rocks -- it has been requested 9 times, last by DTRemenak, 51s ago. |
| 21:17.57 | DTRemenak | it's a builtin, no creator |
| 21:18.59 | DTRemenak | ~factstats total |
| 21:19.17 | bryjen | hmm |
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| 21:29.20 | iCBG | hehe iFungus. :) |
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| 21:34.40 | DTRemenak | brlcad, I might. lemme see if it's still set up. |
| 21:36.46 | DTRemenak | you're unlikely to find that :) |
| 21:38.14 | brlcad | hogwash, I say |
| 21:38.33 | brlcad | cygwin installs it, you'd just have to run it ;) |
| 21:38.41 | orchid | not by default |
| 21:38.58 | brlcad | really? I swore it was in the default |
| 21:39.09 | orchid | at least not on the one Ive got |
| 21:39.17 | brlcad | not even in /usr/sbin? |
| 21:39.24 | DTRemenak | don't have cygwin on the machine in question anyway |
| 21:39.57 | DTRemenak | although sshwin seems fairly up to date still |
| 21:40.23 | DTRemenak | heh, don't have router access on that machine either |
| 21:40.37 | brlcad | woo, bz's render will finish in no time |
| 21:40.58 | brlcad | just started it 15 min ago and it's over 30% done |
| 21:41.23 | purple_cow | render? |
| 21:41.25 | brlcad | bc's takes about 8 hours |
| 21:42.02 | brlcad | purple_cow: the poster idea started on at siggraph for visualizing source |
| 21:42.38 | DTRemenak | heh, someone changed my user description on this box to "Hooded monster" :) |
| 21:42.42 | brlcad | the base for rendering the text to image is working well now |
| 21:42.48 | brlcad | hehe |
| 21:42.51 | orchid | :) |
| 21:42.52 | DTRemenak | geez, been forever since I used it |
| 21:43.15 | DTRemenak | dang, they de-adminned me too |
| 21:43.22 | brlcad | bastages |
| 21:43.29 | DTRemenak | no kidding :) |
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| 21:45.12 | DTRemenak | hmm, admin pass is not in the dictionary anymore either. someone's been getting serious about security :) |
| 21:45.30 | DTRemenak | and of course he's not online to bug him about it |
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| 21:50.45 | DTRemenak | brlcad, none of the other machines I can give you access to have reasonable uptime or power, sorry. I assume you'll need it for a while? |
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| 22:00.14 | DTRemenak | heh, every time I type in that window this window activates by nick highlighting :) |
| 22:01.20 | meacan | If people continue to bug me, perhaps. But no plans :) Just didnt edit the config script |
| 22:01.35 | bryjen | confusing, DTRemenak ? |
| 22:01.46 | brlcad | DTRemenak, that's alright no biggie |
| 22:01.48 | brlcad | thanks though |
| 22:01.52 | DTRemenak | yeah confusing. switching operating systems every couple seconds is a bugger :) |
| 22:02.31 | DTRemenak | brlcad, if you just need it for a bit I can set up an account on my lappy. but it is usually not connected |
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| 22:02.51 | brlcad | blast007_away: *ping* |
| 22:03.01 | brlcad | no problem |
| 22:03.09 | DTRemenak | bryjen: you got both of them, actually. they're both set to "pull to front" but one of them is a child window so it doesn't matter :) |
| 22:03.16 | brlcad | It was nothing urgent, just looking to play :) |
| 22:04.06 | DTRemenak|QX | playing is always fun |
| 22:04.40 | bryjen | otherwise it's called 'work' |
| 22:05.20 | brlcad | in the case of some, work can be play too |
| 22:05.21 | DTRemenak | it's more fun when your work is play |
| 22:06.05 | brlcad | :) |
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| 22:12.04 | brlcad | into a plane? |
| 22:12.08 | brlcad | an airplane? |
| 22:12.19 | JeffM2501 | yes |
| 22:12.26 | brlcad | why not? |
| 22:12.34 | JeffM2501 | I have to figure out where to put it |
| 22:12.41 | JeffM2501 | brlcad, I'm talking cockpit |
| 22:12.43 | JeffM2501 | small |
| 22:13.00 | JeffM2501 | plane that seems that will soon be 1/2 mine |
| 22:13.00 | brlcad | ahh |
| 22:13.06 | brlcad | with a gps? :) |
| 22:13.11 | JeffM2501 | that is the plan |
| 22:13.16 | brlcad | neat |
| 22:13.33 | JeffM2501 | my father is going to give me his 1/2 of the plane if I get my license |
| 22:13.44 | JeffM2501 | and that sucker totaly needs a HUD |
| 22:14.01 | DTRemenak | heh |
| 22:14.02 | JeffM2501 | problem is we only have 1 GPS for 2 planes |
| 22:14.12 | JeffM2501 | so I'm thinking ether a PDA or lapy in the plane |
| 22:14.19 | DTRemenak | JeffM2501, you are a pilot? |
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| 22:14.31 | JeffM2501 | I am in the process of geting certified |
| 22:14.36 | JeffM2501 | but yes I can fly |
| 22:14.36 | DTRemenak | cool |
| 22:14.39 | Gnurdux | is htere a tool to extract a map from a bzflag server? |
| 22:14.41 | JeffM2501 | I have flown his plane many times |
| 22:14.50 | JeffM2501 | Gnurdux, yeah, it's called bzflag |
| 22:14.54 | DTRemenak | heh |
| 22:15.00 | Gnurdux | to create the world file |
| 22:15.01 | JeffM2501 | just go to "save map" |
| 22:15.08 | Gnurdux | oh |
| 22:15.11 | Gnurdux | thnx! |
| 22:15.11 | JeffM2501 | and it'll save your current map as a map file |
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| 22:15.30 | DTRemenak | heh, he doesn't stick around much does he |
| 22:15.50 | JeffM2501 | DTRemenak I've never taken any lessons or tests before, but he basicly taught me how to fly. But now he's got his friend that is an instructor that will get me certified |
| 22:15.56 | JeffM2501 | since my dad can't legaly fly anymore |
| 22:16.02 | DTRemenak | ah that sucks |
| 22:16.15 | JeffM2501 | so basicly I get a pilots license for the cost of gass |
| 22:16.20 | DTRemenak | sick |
| 22:16.39 | JeffM2501 | be cool to put some cameras on it too |
| 22:16.45 | Pimpinella | cost of grass? |
| 22:16.54 | JeffM2501 | I have access to a steadycam, and wondeting if I could mount it |
| 22:16.55 | Pimpinella | ;) |
| 22:16.57 | JeffM2501 | outside |
| 22:17.00 | brlcad | yeah, weed for flying lessons |
| 22:17.01 | JeffM2501 | and do some ocean flybys |
| 22:17.09 | brlcad | so he can make runs across the border |
| 22:17.13 | DTRemenak | now that would be cool |
| 22:17.28 | JeffM2501 | it's a high wing, so gting stuff under it should not be a problem |
| 22:19.27 | a_monkey | does anyone ever have this problamo: if i'm idle or on observer for a long time, i go nr |
| 22:21.10 | JeffM2501 | isn't idle mean you are really "not responding" ? |
| 22:21.15 | a_monkey | well |
| 22:21.18 | a_monkey | i guess |
| 22:21.26 | a_monkey | but i should have to rejoin every few minutes if i'm obs |
| 22:21.36 | a_monkey | nobody else seems to have that problem |
| 22:22.24 | a_monkey | hah |
| 22:22.32 | a_monkey | same on linux for me though |
| 22:22.48 | JeffM2501 | linus even |
| 22:22.57 | DTRemenak|QX | idle and nr are two different things |
| 22:23.09 | JeffM2501 | they are |
| 22:23.16 | JeffM2501 | they share many common aspects tho |
| 22:23.22 | a_monkey | yes i do have a router that ruins everything |
| 22:23.23 | JeffM2501 | aka the lack of input :) |
| 22:23.31 | JeffM2501 | a_monkey, fis your router |
| 22:23.41 | a_monkey | fis |
| 22:23.42 | a_monkey | ? |
| 22:23.46 | JeffM2501 | yes |
| 22:23.49 | JeffM2501 | fis it |
| 22:23.52 | JeffM2501 | fis it good |
| 22:23.54 | a_monkey | oh |
| 22:23.55 | JeffM2501 | fis it to the left |
| 22:23.56 | a_monkey | lol |
| 22:23.59 | JeffM2501 | fis it to the right |
| 22:24.06 | JeffM2501 | then fis it, fis it ALL NIGHT! |
| 22:24.30 | a_monkey | i've tried fissing my router, it no workie. :( |
| 22:25.05 | DTRemenak|QX | try fissing it with a hammer |
| 22:25.29 | a_monkey | ooh |
| 22:25.30 | a_monkey | good idea |
| 22:25.45 | DTRemenak|QX | whoa, crazy. this machine is set up to do release build installers with mingw |
| 22:25.58 | DTRemenak|QX | I so must have had too much time in government |
| 22:27.22 | brad2901 | is b17 out? |
| 22:27.34 | JeffM2501 | I saw a b52 |
| 22:27.42 | brad2901 | :) |
| 22:28.05 | DTRemenak|QX | $ bzfs -version |
| 22:28.06 | DTRemenak|QX | BZFlag server 1.11.5.20040625-DEVEL-mingw32 (protocol 1115) http://BZFlag.org/ |
| 22:28.06 | DTRemenak|QX | Copyright (c) 1993 - 2004 Tim Riker |
| 22:28.17 | DTRemenak|QX | and that tells you how much I used it :) |
| 22:28.42 | a_monkey | are there other bz patch repositories than the sourceforge one? |
| 22:28.49 | JeffM2501 | been a while since you did a min? |
| 22:28.58 | DTRemenak|QX | naw, I've been doing them on my own box |
| 22:29.02 | JeffM2501 | a_monkey, not that I know of |
| 22:29.14 | DTRemenak|QX | a_monkey, there's one, but I don't recommend it |
| 22:29.28 | DTRemenak|QX | it's run by...unsavory personalities |
| 22:29.37 | JeffM2501 | ahh the cheat place |
| 22:30.10 | DTRemenak|QX | they are patches, just not ones anyone's likely to accept :) |
| 22:30.12 | JeffM2501 | a_monkey, what are you looking for? |
| 22:31.03 | DTRemenak|QX | JeffM2501, I used this machine to play on during Gov't & Econ |
| 22:31.12 | a_monkey | i'm looking for this patch that renders the radar really huge, transparently, smack dab in the centre of the screen |
| 22:31.13 | JeffM2501 | heh |
| 22:31.22 | JeffM2501 | a_monkey, search bzbb |
| 22:31.25 | a_monkey | DTRemenak|QX: well what's that repo |
| 22:31.33 | JeffM2501 | sometimes people post them there |
| 22:31.35 | a_monkey | DTRemenak|QX: maybe it'll have something good |
| 22:31.40 | a_monkey | similar |
| 22:31.47 | a_monkey | or it itself |
| 22:31.48 | DTRemenak|QX | my own machine was on dialup, and the school's routers were pretty restrictive |
| 22:31.59 | JeffM2501 | ugg dial |
| 22:32.30 | DTRemenak|QX | so I had one of my friends (who just happened to have a quad xeon sitting around) change the rdp port on this box to 443 |
| 22:33.17 | DTRemenak|QX | and connected to it instead of the school's servers from the stupid little dumb terminal in the back of the class |
| 22:34.13 | DTRemenak|QX | so all the work I did on getting mingw to work right was just because I was bored in Gov :) |
| 22:34.17 | JeffM2501 | TheLastSpartan, flush |
| 22:34.18 | TheLastSpartan | JeffM2501: okay |
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| 22:35.03 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o JeffM2501] by ChanServ |
| 22:35.17 | JeffM2501 | well that was dumb |
| 22:35.22 | DTRemenak|QX | heh |
| 22:35.44 | JeffM2501 | changed startup channel list, and hit connect instead of close :) |
| 22:36.25 | purple_cow | delete the ruleset for that channel |
| 22:36.39 | JeffM2501 | don't I Need a key for that? |
| 22:37.47 | DTRemenak|QX | you need the gold key, but it's behind the silver door |
| 22:37.47 | brlcad | damn the utf translation tables |
| 22:38.17 | JeffM2501 | rulesets are on yon website |
| 22:38.33 | JeffM2501 | I still want the project tracked by CIA, just not announced anymore |
| 22:39.10 | JeffM2501 | when it's me and 4 bots in a channel... ya kinda get the idea |
| 22:39.56 | JeffM2501 | I think I have to send a mail to scanlime or something |
| 22:40.01 | JeffM2501 | or the purple_cow |
| 22:40.28 | JeffM2501 | totaly should a got them drunk |
| 22:40.46 | purple_cow | hah |
| 22:40.57 | JeffM2501 | purple_cow, is it something I can do? |
| 22:41.01 | JeffM2501 | or is it an admin thing? |
| 22:41.34 | JeffM2501 | I did like how l4mer was PSed into the picture tho, who did that? |
| 22:42.13 | DTRemenak | menotume did iirc |
| 22:42.26 | JeffM2501 | cool |
| 22:42.30 | DTRemenak | or different picture? |
| 22:42.34 | purple_cow | it's an admin thing usually |
| 22:42.41 | JeffM2501 | who is an admin? |
| 22:42.58 | purple_cow | scanlime... |
| 22:43.03 | purple_cow | sometimes me ;) |
| 22:43.07 | purple_cow | but usually him |
| 22:43.11 | JeffM2501 | could you change my rule? |
| 22:43.19 | JeffM2501 | if I ask nice? |
| 22:43.28 | JeffM2501 | all you ahve to do is hit delete for any rule with #opencombat |
| 22:43.34 | DTRemenak|QX | might have to get him drunk first |
| 22:43.44 | purple_cow | JeffM2501: mmk |
| 22:44.16 | JeffM2501 | there should be a way to get people drunk over the interent |
| 22:44.32 | orchid | hehe |
| 22:44.43 | DTRemenak | there is, it just takes a long time for shipping ;) |
| 22:45.08 | DTRemenak | we need replicators. and transporters |
| 22:45.16 | DTRemenak | and holodecks |
| 22:45.24 | DTRemenak | and warp drive |
| 22:47.02 | JeffM2501 | or beer taps on the modem |
| 22:47.24 | JeffM2501 | less steering |
| 22:50.39 | menotume | yes, it was I who put l4m3r in the pic :) |
| 22:50.47 | menotume | wiht legs cut off :) |
| 22:51.07 | JeffM2501 | gimptatular |
| 22:52.33 | menotume | i hate to admit it, but corelarular (windoze) :) |
| 22:52.52 | *** part/#bzflag UdontKnow (i=udontkno@freenode/staff/udontknow) |
| 22:57.22 | a_monkey | how do i apply a .diff patch? |
| 22:57.53 | a_monkey | i finally found that patch? |
| 22:57.58 | a_monkey | oops |
| 22:58.03 | a_monkey | i finally found that patch. |
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| 23:02.49 | orchid | a_monkey: put it in the bzflag top dir and patch -p0 -i some.patch |
| 23:03.13 | a_monkey | orchid: oh ok |
| 23:03.15 | a_monkey | orchid: thx |
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| 23:04.40 | bz8503 | ~bzfquery 68.118.145.182:5154 |
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| 23:08.40 | brlcad | dimensions: 23280 x 14550 |
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| 23:10.16 | trepan | brlcad: format/filesize? |
| 23:18.35 | JeffM2501 | that is a sizeable image |
| 23:18.53 | brlcad | format? |
| 23:19.25 | brlcad | inherintly dumps out 16bit png, but I've been converting them back to 8bit in photoshop |
| 23:20.30 | JeffM2501 | how big is it? |
| 23:20.41 | JeffM2501 | on disk |
| 23:22.23 | brlcad | didn't notice |
| 23:22.31 | brlcad | i had a font mixup, so I have to run it again |
| 23:22.38 | JeffM2501 | how long? |
| 23:22.58 | brlcad | took about a half hour I suppose |
| 23:23.07 | JeffM2501 | heh |
| 23:23.11 | brlcad | maybe an hour |
| 23:31.46 | brlcad | raw data size for a 16bit image that big is 2GB, so 1GB uncompressed raw |
| 23:32.19 | brlcad | there's a lot of background, so it compresses very well -- it should be about 150-200 MB png |
| 23:37.27 | JeffM2501 | print it on a thong! |
| 23:37.36 | brlcad | hehe |
| 23:37.46 | JeffM2501 | then the power of the source can be "in your pants" |
| 23:38.25 | brlcad | something that works well in 2d |
| 23:38.30 | JeffM2501 | we don't have a good logo |
| 23:38.38 | JeffM2501 | there is saturos's tank |
| 23:38.43 | JeffM2501 | that's used in the icon |
| 23:38.46 | brlcad | the new one pointing up could work |
| 23:38.49 | brlcad | yeah that one |
| 23:38.57 | brlcad | mebbe |
| 23:39.02 | JeffM2501 | he has that one as just the tank outline |
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| 23:44.37 | brlcad | non-outline works great too |
| 23:44.41 | brlcad | even color |
| 23:44.49 | brlcad | it's just hard to make out something with depth real well |
| 23:45.14 | JeffM2501 | didn't mean outline |
| 23:51.36 | JeffM2501 | meant like flat shaded thing |
