| 00:08.36 | CBG | Wow... 1084 MSNbot hits... O.o |
| 00:09.04 | JeffM2501 | spiders |
| 00:09.37 | meacan | alot of my trafic is coming from spiders. Mainly google, msnbot and inkognito |
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| 00:10.17 | CBG | I know... but 1000 hits? |
| 00:10.19 | meacan | i understand why some ban them |
| 00:10.30 | CBG | Thats almost as many as my own. |
| 00:10.32 | meacan | CBG: if you get adsense, mediabot will visit you too |
| 00:10.40 | CBG | I don'.t |
| 00:11.24 | CBG | Other than me, the user hitting my site the most has hit 115 times. MSNBot hits 1084 times.... |
| 00:11.34 | CBG | That can't be right. lol |
| 00:11.36 | meacan | but msn and yahoo gives me no visitors. Its a waste of resources |
| 00:11.43 | JeffM2501 | the bots walk the web 24/7 |
| 00:11.47 | CBG | ANd what is worse, microsoft have a robot and it is HITting my site! |
| 00:12.02 | JeffM2501 | CBG, how do you think you show up on msn searches? |
| 00:12.06 | CBG | Its gonna get damaged if microsoft dont tell it to stop! |
| 00:12.21 | CBG | JEffM2501: I know... but googlebot and the others all visit MUCH less. |
| 00:12.28 | JeffM2501 | so |
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| 00:12.38 | JeffM2501 | so YOU personaly are going to take down the msn bot? |
| 00:12.44 | CBG | google bot hits: 52. Unknown robot (identified by 'crawl') = 40, etc |
| 00:12.52 | CBG | JeffM2501: huh? |
| 00:13.09 | meacan | My stats for august: 9821 Yahoo Slurp, 5605 MediaBot, 4508 MSNBot, 4435+3628 GoogleBot |
| 00:13.11 | CBG | I meant my site would get damaged what with the bot HITting it so much.... |
| 00:13.20 | CBG | wow meacan... nice. :) |
| 00:13.32 | JeffM2501 | how does a "hit" damage a site |
| 00:13.39 | JeffM2501 | and how does a site get "damage" |
| 00:13.44 | CBG | It was a Joke.... |
| 00:13.49 | CBG | *sigh* |
| 00:13.54 | JeffM2501 | a poor one |
| 00:14.04 | CBG | yes.... |
| 00:14.31 | CBG | It took all of July to get 100 uniques. Now I have 100 in the 18 days so far of August. :) |
| 00:14.48 | meacan | CBG: my site is updated daily, so the spider notices it and increases the frequence of their visits. I get them serveral times a'day. |
| 00:15.16 | CBG | I have a few PR 4/5 inbounds.... I hope to get like a pr3 or something for myself next update. |
| 00:15.27 | meacan | but at least they dont download binaries :) |
| 00:15.32 | CBG | heh |
| 00:16.23 | meacan | I had 5 PR ?! Thats rare for small sites :) |
| 00:16.36 | CBG | You have PR5? |
| 00:16.45 | meacan | No, 4 |
| 00:17.06 | CBG | Now im confused... again... |
| 00:18.30 | CBG | Getting PR10 must be hard.... It takes about 3 PR10 links for PR9... |
| 00:18.54 | CBG | Looks like it would take 18 PR10's for a PR10 for yourself... wow. |
| 00:19.10 | meacan | Nobody knows for sure, google wont tell :) |
| 00:19.24 | CBG | seogeeks have a chart... ;) |
| 00:19.34 | CBG | http://www.seogeeks.com/articles/pagerank-chart.php |
| 00:20.31 | meacan | seogeeks is guessing :) |
| 00:20.46 | CBG | Sure... but I expect they are not tooo far out. :) |
| 00:20.53 | meacan | got a friend who is very interested in seo so i let him play with my site in terms of seo |
| 00:20.54 | CBG | It's just a guide. :P |
| 00:21.05 | CBG | what did he do? :P |
| 00:21.27 | meacan | Nothing much, added a small box description the category in the category listing |
| 00:21.37 | meacan | that helped alot on searches. |
| 00:21.42 | CBG | cool |
| 00:21.43 | meacan | Nothing "bad seo" |
| 00:22.25 | meacan | he also bugged me enough to change my adsense. before: CTR 0.3%, now i get 1.8-2.0 (3% yesterday) |
| 00:22.38 | CBG | :o |
| 00:23.21 | meacan | he uses my server for free - so thats his way of paying me :) |
| 00:23.30 | CBG | heh. :) |
| 00:23.53 | CBG | my brother pays for my hosting for me, I do his website for him in return... |
| 00:24.07 | CBG | although I forget the last time I did anything to it. :) |
| 00:24.16 | meacan | nobody would like me to do websites :) |
| 00:24.25 | CBG | same here |
| 00:24.32 | CBG | my brother is nobody. :) |
| 00:33.26 | CBG | uh oh... Make errors!!!! |
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| 00:35.32 | supertanker | hi all |
| 00:35.42 | CBG | Lots of make errors from current cvs: http://pastebin.ca/20372 |
| 00:35.45 | CBG | Hi supertanker. |
| 00:36.00 | supertanker | Why wont it let me use numbers in my nick? |
| 00:36.23 | supertanker | I'm 343_Guilty_Spark on the forums, but here it says 'erronous nickname'; |
| 00:37.20 | CBG | Too long I guess |
| 00:37.39 | s343_Guilty_Spar | ha! |
| 00:37.46 | s343_Guilty_Spar | it just doesnt like numbers being the first part |
| 00:37.58 | s343_Guilty_Spar | and its too long. :( |
| 00:38.01 | CBG | heh |
| 00:38.09 | CBG | it is with the s. |
| 00:38.46 | _Sparky_ | thats better |
| 00:38.53 | CBG | so, wassup? |
| 00:38.54 | _Sparky_ | who is using Sparky anyways? |
| 00:39.06 | CBG | Who knows... IRC is a big place. ;) |
| 00:39.13 | CBG | try /whois sparky |
| 00:39.18 | _Sparky_ | well, I was talking to Jeff about Duke Nukem 3D and the levels I make |
| 00:39.36 | CBG | Oh, bad timing... Jeff lest 10 mins ago. |
| 00:39.49 | _Sparky_ | and so he said that ray shooter engines or whatever they are are out |
| 00:39.54 | _Sparky_ | and I should try Quake |
| 00:40.03 | _Sparky_ | So now im trying to find something to play around with' |
| 00:40.45 | _Sparky_ | Do any of you know of something that I can just download and make good, polygonal levels with but without having to download more than 15 megs and i dont have to sign up for anything and is free? |
| 00:42.21 | _- | whoops |
| 00:42.37 | trepan | blender, wings3d, anim8or, radiant(big d/l), etc... |
| 00:42.53 | _-Captain | besides that. I have blender, wings, and ani8or |
| 00:42.54 | trepan | google for '3d modeller' |
| 00:42.56 | _-Captain | I mean a game |
| 00:43.08 | CBG | cya all... |
| 00:43.26 | _-Captain | bye! |
| 00:43.57 | _Captain_Kirk_ | thats a bit better. |
| 00:44.10 | _Captain_Kirk_ | I still with it would let me do my traditional 343_Guilty_Spark |
| 00:44.42 | _Captain_Kirk_ | Does anyone here play Duke Nukem 3D? Or Shogo? |
| 00:47.36 | _Captain_Kirk_ | AAARRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHH dialup is so slow! |
| 00:49.12 | blast007 | Shogo? as in Shogo Mobile Armor Division? |
| 00:49.23 | _Captain_Kirk_ | Yup. I make levels for it |
| 00:49.42 | _Captain_Kirk_ | Also known as Shogo:MAD |
| 00:49.45 | blast007 | yeah, I played the demo of that a while back |
| 00:49.56 | blast007 | had a LAN party :) |
| 00:50.13 | _Captain_Kirk_ | I have the full version.. Hey, I have lan partys too...I wish my internet connection was that fast |
| 00:51.38 | blast007 | I was laggy at a LAN party once ;) |
| 00:51.57 | _Captain_Kirk_ | My average lag on my lan with Shogo is about 20ms |
| 00:51.58 | blast007 | was using some crappy USB network adapter, cuz all the PCI slots were being used |
| 00:52.24 | blast007 | I was getting like 150ms when playing Jedi Knight II |
| 00:52.42 | _Captain_Kirk_ | BZFlag on my machine with dial up gets 300-18000 ms |
| 00:53.20 | blast007 | when I had 56k, I could get lags as low as 180ms, but my average was around 250 |
| 00:53.41 | _Captain_Kirk_ | have you played the game on sourceforge called Eclipse? Im downloadigni it |
| 00:53.51 | blast007 | nope |
| 00:54.18 | _Captain_Kirk_ | darn |
| 00:54.42 | _Captain_Kirk_ | *sigh* my site is down AGAIN...itsgoing to stay down untill I get a content management system.... |
| 00:56.27 | _Captain_Kirk_ | I watch Law and Order every nite... |
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| 01:32.23 | jomojo | I just realized that a poll can set a variable value |
| 01:32.36 | jomojo | how do i prevent that kind of polling? |
| 01:33.42 | brlcad | move the permission for it to the admin group |
| 01:34.17 | brlcad | (or whatever high-privilege group) |
| 01:37.08 | jomojo | brlcad: I don't want to remove the poll command all together |
| 01:37.47 | jomojo | just not allow them to set variables |
| 01:38.01 | brlcad | i know |
| 01:38.10 | brlcad | there's a permission specfically for setting variables |
| 01:38.21 | brlcad | just like there's a separate permission for kicking and banning |
| 01:39.05 | jomojo | oh i see |
| 01:39.07 | jomojo | right |
| 01:39.10 | jomojo | thanks brlcad |
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| 01:39.39 | geoffrey | hi |
| 01:40.00 | geoffrey | whenever I try and join silvercat all I get is "Error connecting to server." |
| 01:40.03 | geoffrey | any ideas? |
| 01:40.24 | jomojo | yeah maybe you are someone near you is banned? |
| 01:40.39 | geoffrey | jomjo: I'm UGM |
| 01:40.43 | jomojo | oh |
| 01:40.45 | jomojo | right |
| 01:40.54 | jomojo | yeah i still don't know why you can't join |
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| 01:41.00 | jomojo | you are not in the banlist |
| 01:41.08 | jomojo | brlcad any thoughts? |
| 01:41.14 | jomojo | or anyone else for that matter |
| 01:41.15 | geoffrey | i think what happened at hepcat was that I couldn't join until the server was restarted... |
| 01:41.31 | brlcad | jomojo: i try not to think |
| 01:41.37 | jomojo | the server was restarted last night |
| 01:41.40 | geoffrey | oh |
| 01:41.43 | jomojo | geoffrey |
| 01:41.52 | jomojo | lol |
| 01:41.57 | geoffrey | well, not that this time :P |
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| 01:42.15 | jomojo | i don't get why you can't join |
| 01:42.33 | CBG | Did anyone see my make errors? |
| 01:42.57 | JeffM2501 | a ban would say "you are banned" |
| 01:42.59 | JeffM2501 | and by who |
| 01:43.06 | jomojo | right |
| 01:43.14 | jomojo | but he just gets an error |
| 01:43.28 | jomojo | and i did check his ip against bans .. just in case |
| 01:43.42 | CBG | I get "Error connecting to server" with brad2901's server for some unkown reason... |
| 01:43.47 | CBG | does that sound like the same thing? |
| 01:43.52 | JeffM2501 | ether his build is wierd, or he's going thru some prouxy that is jacking our cheese |
| 01:44.18 | jomojo | jacking our cheese that is a new one for me |
| 01:44.19 | geoffrey | i've tried both 2.0.2 and my normal 2.0.3 CVS |
| 01:44.21 | jomojo | lol |
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| 01:44.42 | geoffrey | hi pimp |
| 01:44.44 | geoffrey | *pimpi |
| 01:44.45 | JeffM2501 | can you connect to a local server? |
| 01:44.49 | geoffrey | yeha |
| 01:44.50 | jomojo | i mean he can connect to most other servers |
| 01:44.51 | geoffrey | *yeah |
| 01:44.58 | jomojo | he plays on vipers all the time |
| 01:45.01 | geoffrey | yup |
| 01:45.02 | geoffrey | :P |
| 01:45.03 | JeffM2501 | could just be his route then |
| 01:45.07 | jomojo | Pimpinella |
| 01:45.09 | JeffM2501 | hard to say |
| 01:45.24 | JeffM2501 | basicly bzflag didn't get the data it expected |
| 01:45.29 | JeffM2501 | from the server |
| 01:45.33 | JeffM2501 | that's all it knows |
| 01:46.00 | geoffrey | want me to do a traceroot? |
| 01:46.07 | JeffM2501 | not really |
| 01:46.14 | JeffM2501 | as it won't show what happens to UDP packets |
| 01:46.15 | jomojo | yeah do it for me |
| 01:46.33 | jomojo | send it to me in pm |
| 01:47.28 | geoffrey | in other news, anyone seen my map? |
| 01:48.48 | geoffrey | do you need to run ./autogen.sh everytime when building? |
| 01:55.52 | JeffM2501 | no |
| 01:56.14 | geoffrey | well, seems like I just like wasting my time then :) |
| 01:57.21 | JeffM2501 | it dosn't hurt |
| 01:57.33 | JeffM2501 | in general you only redo it when the guts of the makefiles change |
| 01:57.36 | brlcad | only need to run it once unless you're editing configure.ac |
| 01:58.05 | brlcad | for that matter, only need to run ./configure once too, unless you want new configure options |
| 01:58.21 | geoffrey | *sighs* |
| 01:58.34 | geoffrey | and make install? that needed or not? |
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| 01:58.59 | JeffM2501 | when the code changes sure |
| 01:59.04 | JeffM2501 | that does the actual build |
| 01:59.13 | geoffrey | that's what I thought |
| 01:59.42 | brlcad | you don't "have" to run make install.. it just won't install it then :) |
| 01:59.46 | brlcad | you can run without installing |
| 01:59.49 | geoffrey | :) |
| 02:00.00 | JeffM2501 | all you really need is the make part |
| 02:01.32 | geoffrey | T -50 sec |
| 02:02.16 | JeffM2501 | 4.3 gigs of compressed hack and slash |
| 02:02.40 | geoffrey | time to fire up Myst V |
| 02:02.51 | geoffrey | christ! |
| 02:02.55 | geoffrey | the installer looks amazing :P |
| 02:03.33 | geoffrey | well,,bye |
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| 02:23.04 | trepan | it's possible to hide team flags by placing them directly on top of a regular flag |
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| 02:23.18 | RPG_ | ~seen meacan |
| 02:23.20 | ibot | meacan is currently on #bzflag #bzleague. Has said a total of 87 messages. Is idling for 1h 39m 55s |
| 02:23.25 | trepan | i've got a fix for it (draw the team flags last), worth applying? |
| 02:23.30 | RPG_ | sure |
| 02:23.38 | RPG_ | i know of a few people who have wanted to hide the team flag |
| 02:23.46 | RPG_ | ping meacan |
| 02:25.29 | RPG_ | ~wake meacan |
| 02:25.29 | ibot | meacan: GOOD MORNING!!! |
| 02:25.32 | RPG_ | heh |
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| 02:31.29 | geoffrey | woah |
| 02:31.37 | RPG_ | something happen? |
| 02:31.39 | geoffrey | the Myst V graphics are incredible :P |
| 02:32.03 | meacan | RPG_: hi |
| 02:32.06 | meacan | RPG_: just replied |
| 02:32.12 | RPG_ | oh thx |
| 02:32.18 | RPG_ | ~sleep meacan |
| 02:32.18 | ibot | ACTION sends meacan to bed without supper |
| 02:32.27 | RPG_ | awww i mean't a nice sleep |
| 02:32.44 | geoffrey | look at http://codingforums.com/showthread.php?p=346425#post346425 |
| 02:32.54 | geoffrey | just took those screenshots |
| 02:33.03 | RPG_ | yes? |
| 02:33.25 | orange | learner: you know zongo and darthvalou are headed up your way? |
| 02:33.30 | geoffrey | kinda blew me away with how realistic those RT in game graphics are :P |
| 02:33.42 | orange | brlcad: you too :-) |
| 02:35.59 | orange | heh, I wonder what they're going to baltimore for |
| 02:36.20 | orange | crabcakes probably |
| 02:36.32 | brlcad | crabs are in season |
| 02:36.59 | orange | mmmm, crabcakes |
| 02:38.01 | Aribeth | hi orange |
| 02:38.06 | orange | hello aribeth |
| 02:38.54 | Grumbler | yep maryland crabs........soaked in raw sewage for 2-3 years then lightly steamed......hard to beat |
| 02:39.12 | brlcad | delicious |
| 02:39.15 | orange | lol |
| 02:39.17 | RPG_ | i think the raw sewage has already gotten to your head |
| 02:39.41 | Grumbler | heh |
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| 03:51.50 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: - calculate visual extents so that passable objects don't |
| 03:51.50 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: get clipped when using "fast mode" radar rendering |
| 03:51.50 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: - draw team flag last, so that they can't be hidden behind a normal flag |
| 03:51.50 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: (feel free to revert this one if you feel so inclined) |
| 03:52.16 | brlcad | ooh, an open-revert offer |
| 03:52.19 | brlcad | that could be fun |
| 03:52.44 | trepan | one liner, easy cheezy |
| 03:54.42 | orange | this thing is busted |
| 03:54.48 | trepan | if you're lucky enough to have the team flag and the normal flag in phase, it's tough to spot the team flag |
| 03:55.43 | orange | nah, I think it's a good thing |
| 03:55.54 | orange | (the change) |
| 03:56.29 | orange | except now people with newer clients will have a slight advantage |
| 03:57.46 | trepan | yup, an incentive to upgrade |
| 03:59.18 | brlcad | heh, incentives |
| 04:02.15 | Aribeth | :P |
| 04:02.41 | trepan | Aribeth: fast mode radar should look better on your new Atlantis too :) |
| 04:02.51 | Aribeth | :) |
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| 04:22.50 | luca_ | hi, I'm getting a message "error unpacking world database" when trying to connect to a local server |
| 04:22.59 | luca_ | any ideas? |
| 04:23.10 | luca_ | (local server == localhost) |
| 04:24.32 | trepan | try: bzflag -debug |
| 04:26.16 | luca_ | WorldBuilder::unpack() overrun |
| 04:26.53 | luca_ | rings any bells? |
| 04:27.15 | trepan | server/client versions? using a custom map? |
| 04:28.07 | luca_ | 2.0.2.20050318-0.1 (debian, both), not using map, just the default 'bzfs' (y fall into this because I'm debugging another problem) |
| 04:30.34 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03trepan * 10bzflag/ (3 files in 3 dirs): replace Extents.copy() with an operator |
| 04:30.52 | luca_ | trepan: on the server side: Player [0] accept() from 127.0.0.1:41800 on 6 |
| 04:30.52 | luca_ | Player [0] got bad status from resolver: Inconsistent resource records in DNS |
| 04:30.52 | luca_ | Player [0] removed at 2005-08-19 01:30:28: Disconnected |
| 04:31.04 | luca_ | is that normal? |
| 04:31.44 | trepan | well, Disconnected sounds like a bad thing |
| 04:32.15 | trepan | could be due to the client choking on the map, dunno |
| 04:34.53 | luca_ | I have another problem (the original) |
| 04:35.15 | luca_ | I have a client PC with private IP |
| 04:35.16 | trepan | what's the ip, i'll try to connect to your server |
| 04:35.26 | luca_ | llucax.hn.org |
| 04:35.38 | luca_ | but wait a minute please |
| 04:35.44 | luca_ | the problem is weird |
| 04:36.18 | blast007_ | players connecting from the outside can't see the bullets coming from the client connecting via the LAN |
| 04:36.20 | luca_ | I have the server in my public pc (llucax.hn.org) |
| 04:36.32 | luca_ | blast007_: I found out something else |
| 04:36.36 | blast007_ | k |
| 04:36.39 | luca_ | using the option -solo |
| 04:36.44 | luca_ | to create bots |
| 04:36.56 | luca_ | I see my own bots 'laged' |
| 04:37.18 | blast007_ | hmm |
| 04:37.28 | luca_ | and, even when I can kill them, it's really random |
| 04:37.35 | blast007_ | what kind of FPS are you getting? |
| 04:37.42 | blast007_ | (press 't' when in the game) |
| 04:37.43 | luca_ | (and I don't see other remote players laged) |
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| 04:37.53 | luca_ | blast007_: ~30 |
| 04:37.58 | blast007_ | k |
| 04:38.00 | luca_ | let me check again |
| 04:38.08 | trepan | joined your server, no probs |
| 04:38.33 | blast007_ | trepan: the problems seem to occur inside the LAN |
| 04:39.00 | blast007_ | when they connect from a client in the local network, they can't kill anyone |
| 04:39.15 | trepan | blast007_: i'm more interested in the first prob |
| 04:39.32 | trepan | he's also joined, no map crashing |
| 04:40.25 | blast007_ | k |
| 04:40.48 | luca_ | trepan: no, that was a different server |
| 04:41.08 | luca_ | trepan: the map problem is if I put a server no my private IP PC (localhost) |
| 04:41.27 | luca_ | trepan: the server you entered was the public IP PC |
| 04:41.52 | luca_ | trepan: I can try to forward the port to see if you can connect |
| 04:45.16 | trepan | sure |
| 04:45.27 | trepan | are you connecting via 127.0.0.1 ? |
| 04:46.34 | luca_ | trepan: try to connect now |
| 04:46.38 | luca_ | trepan: yep |
| 04:46.58 | trepan | connect to where? |
| 04:47.09 | trepan | the public server? |
| 04:48.12 | luca_ | yep |
| 04:48.37 | trepan | can't |
| 04:48.45 | luca_ | damn! |
| 04:48.49 | trepan | you have udp forward as well? |
| 04:49.30 | luca_ | yes |
| 04:50.02 | luca_ | but it's most likly that is my error using iptables |
| 04:50.23 | luca_ | do you a a 'magic line' to forward a port with iptables? |
| 04:52.45 | trepan | nope, but i do have the urge to crash |
| 04:52.56 | trepan | best of luck, hope blast007_ can fix you up |
| 04:53.25 | luca_ | trepan: thanks |
| 04:54.51 | luca_ | blast007_: so, any ideas on the other problem? |
| 04:55.39 | luca_ | blast007_: I've done a tcpdump and all traffic bzflag traffic (TCP and UPD) that goes out from the client is received by the server |
| 04:56.07 | blast007_ | I'm probably of less help, being that I've never used iptables :) |
| 04:56.48 | luca_ | blast007_: ok, but I mean the problem with shoots |
| 04:57.11 | luca_ | blast007_: do you know de bzflag network protocol? |
| 04:57.34 | blast007_ | yeah, I've done a lot with the protocol |
| 04:58.21 | blast007_ | my guess is that your UDP packets aren't making their way to the server |
| 04:58.55 | blast007_ | that could also explain why you are laggy, because TCP-only produces more lag |
| 05:00.34 | blast007_ | but it's strange that it doesn't work right from localhost |
| 05:00.59 | blast007_ | have you tried running a client on the computer with the public IP, and connecting to the public server? |
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| 06:09.39 | uso | Pimpinella: have a look at viper, nice nick there stealing flags from teammates ... |
| 06:10.37 | uso | censoring of nicknames does not really work ;) |
| 06:11.59 | uso | or anybody else with admin perm at viper |
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| 06:54.03 | silverfox | anyone any good w/daemontools? |
| 06:56.32 | silverfox | I have a couple different programs I want to run in succession, but want to make sure they are exec'd so daemontools can control them under one service. I tried putting them in a bash script, then exec'ing the script, but that doesn't seem to work. Anyone know the trick to this? |
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| 10:42.29 | ToughShooter | ping Pimpinella |
| 11:56.03 | Grumbler | wow, cvs has been busy the last couple days |
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| 12:51.05 | Demon[work] | hello |
| 12:53.14 | Grumbler | hello |
| 13:00.40 | Demon[work] | How's thing Grumbler? |
| 13:00.50 | Demon[work] | ops... things. |
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| 13:54.49 | trepan | http://www.venganza.org/index.htm |
| 13:55.04 | trepan | ... and he gets pirates in there too! |
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| 14:05.14 | _Captain_Kirk_ | hi all |
| 14:05.52 | learner | mm.. spagetti |
| 14:06.15 | _Captain_Kirk_ | ??? |
| 14:06.32 | learner | do you worship the flying spagetti monster? |
| 14:06.53 | _Captain_Kirk_ | um..yeah, i guess so... |
| 14:09.27 | trepan | arrrg |
| 14:09.53 | learner | oh, you're one of the 17 too? :) |
| 14:10.27 | _Captain_Kirk_ | 17 what? |
| 14:10.36 | learner | pirates |
| 14:10.43 | _Captain_Kirk_ | no |
| 14:10.57 | learner | then I wasn't referring to you then was i :) |
| 14:11.15 | _Captain_Kirk_ | maybe. :) |
| 14:11.20 | trepan | heh, that graph was what got me laughing |
| 14:11.50 | learner | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_Spaghetti_Monster |
| 14:11.58 | _Captain_Kirk_ | let me guess your not reffering to me either. :) |
| 14:12.25 | learner | this pastafarian has to go walkabout |
| 14:13.11 | _Captain_Kirk_ | ? |
| 14:13.11 | trepan | _Captain_Kirk_: that link was probably for your benefit |
| 14:13.13 | learner | http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Flying_Spaghetti_Monster |
| 14:15.14 | _Captain_Kirk_ | Okay, just give me an hour or so for the page to load...dialup is so blzing fast :) |
| 14:15.20 | trepan | all fridays are holidays, esp. for oenophiles |
| 14:15.31 | trepan | how can you pass up the chance to convert? |
| 14:15.55 | _Captain_Kirk_ | me? |
| 14:16.15 | _Captain_Kirk_ | Okay, that is just freaky. |
| 14:16.18 | _Captain_Kirk_ | :) |
| 14:16.26 | _Captain_Kirk_ | and slow... |
| 14:18.51 | _Captain_Kirk_ | gota go. Bye all! |
| 14:22.20 | Grumbler | hey learner ........need a new machine? |
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| 14:55.14 | Grumbler | morning Birdie |
| 14:55.41 | Birdie | hello grumbler |
| 14:57.26 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03trepan * 10bzflag/src/mediafile/OggAudioFile.cxx: shadow warning |
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| 15:20.36 | brlcad | Grumbler: hmmm possibly |
| 15:20.38 | brlcad | what kind? |
| 15:20.59 | Grumbler | shes an oldy....550M xeon, kayak |
| 15:21.13 | Grumbler | dual scsi |
| 15:21.18 | brlcad | kayak? :) |
| 15:21.28 | Grumbler | heh, HP Kayak |
| 15:21.56 | Grumbler | and when she is one, it much like an airplane taking off |
| 15:22.02 | Grumbler | ^on |
| 15:22.20 | brlcad | heh |
| 15:22.24 | brlcad | rack mount? |
| 15:22.26 | Grumbler | if you had a spare Xeon, she could be a dualy |
| 15:22.39 | Grumbler | nah, not rack |
| 15:23.21 | brlcad | hmm.. which model kayak? |
| 15:24.02 | brlcad | XU? |
| 15:24.13 | Grumbler | X550/Visualize |
| 15:24.33 | Grumbler | ...i yanked and tossed the graphics card some time ago however |
| 15:25.08 | Grumbler | Gb of memory..... |
| 15:26.51 | brlcad | hm, hard call :) |
| 15:29.26 | Grumbler | heh, yeah, its too old for me to give to relatives, its too nice just to junk it |
| 15:39.53 | brlcad | http://ftp.brlcad.org/tmp/dundalk.txt |
| 15:42.50 | Demon[work] | grr. the cvs seem to broke just when you want to commmit something... looks like a new murphy's law :( |
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| 16:03.18 | Grumbler | brlcad, :) |
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| 16:14.17 | orchid | ciao :) |
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| 16:17.05 | Birdie | hey tupone |
| 16:17.16 | Tupone | hi |
| 16:17.46 | CBG | RPG_ - hows it coming? |
| 16:17.55 | RPG_ | pretty good |
| 16:18.04 | RPG_ | i realeased beta 2 last night |
| 16:18.13 | CBG | I saw. |
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| 16:22.08 | JeffM2501 | what do ether of you know about binary spike? |
| 16:22.16 | RPG_ | he's a mac programmer |
| 16:22.36 | RPG_ | seems like he's "classy", i.e. no-cussing, playing clean |
| 16:22.55 | JeffM2501 | have you ever seen him make any code? |
| 16:23.19 | RPG_ | only the iBZEdit, and he belongs to some mac programming forum, i remember him posting a link once |
| 16:23.28 | JeffM2501 | iBZEdit isn't code |
| 16:23.37 | RPG_ | then no, i havn't seen any |
| 16:23.39 | JeffM2501 | all that is is a dialog layout in the carbon tool |
| 16:23.44 | RPG_ | ohg |
| 16:23.56 | JeffM2501 | he's asking for a private forum to develop it |
| 16:24.09 | JeffM2501 | but I'm not entirely sure I trust him |
| 16:24.13 | RPG_ | geez, how many forums are there? |
| 16:24.18 | JeffM2501 | many |
| 16:24.22 | JeffM2501 | too many |
| 16:24.31 | RPG_ | i think the BZContest one can go |
| 16:26.00 | RPG_ | he seemed mature |
| 16:28.53 | JeffM2501 | just because somone dosn't cus dosn't mean they are mature |
| 16:29.56 | JeffM2501 | 1) I don't want to make forums for things that won't be used. |
| 16:30.08 | JeffM2501 | 2) I only want to make forums for things that are involved in the bzflag comunity |
| 16:30.27 | RPG_ | 1) I don't want to make forums for things that won't be used. |
| 16:30.27 | RPG_ | heh, are you implying that iBZEdit won't be used? |
| 16:30.29 | JeffM2501 | I told him we had bzedit and development forums and he seemed reluctant to use them |
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| 16:30.49 | JeffM2501 | ohh no, I am iplying that the forum won't be used, because he'd never finish it |
| 16:30.50 | RPG_ | he wants to keep development "private", as so he said in A-Meteorites forums |
| 16:30.55 | JeffM2501 | I know he does |
| 16:30.58 | JeffM2501 | but why? |
| 16:31.02 | CBG | JeffM2501: if he doesnt use the forum you make for him, remove it. |
| 16:31.09 | RPG_ | probably so he doesn't have the crowds harassing him to get it done |
| 16:31.20 | JeffM2501 | if it's for the comunity game, and a GPL project? why not make it public so people can see how it goes, and offer help/ideas |
| 16:31.38 | RPG_ | tell him that |
| 16:31.40 | CBG | JeffM2501: you told him this? |
| 16:31.43 | JeffM2501 | RPG_, he has a single other developer, e-mail and PMs can take care of the low end stuff |
| 16:31.49 | orchid | no will want to help if its pvt either |
| 16:31.51 | JeffM2501 | yes I did |
| 16:31.57 | JeffM2501 | orchid, exactly |
| 16:32.02 | JeffM2501 | he seems to have an ego thing |
| 16:32.07 | CBG | `yeah... |
| 16:32.09 | JeffM2501 | he wants to be "the man" |
| 16:32.20 | CBG | theres definatly somthing about him I don't like... |
| 16:32.23 | JeffM2501 | he was mad at me for making his oncap patch into a feature |
| 16:32.29 | CBG | hes like, 14 but acts much older. :/ |
| 16:32.32 | JeffM2501 | he wanted his server to be the only one that had it |
| 16:32.36 | CBG | hah. |
| 16:32.40 | orchid | like Grumbler's "project tin-foil" it was doomed to fail because of the secrecy |
| 16:32.55 | RPG_ | hmmm |
| 16:32.56 | CBG | what project? ll |
| 16:32.58 | RPG_ | i never have noticed his ego |
| 16:33.01 | JeffM2501 | I mean I'd even be willing to help him out |
| 16:33.11 | JeffM2501 | but he won't accept any sugestion I make |
| 16:33.24 | JeffM2501 | and he's going to make the sucker mac only to a fualt |
| 16:33.26 | RPG_ | well if he's like that, then why give him a forum? |
| 16:33.32 | JeffM2501 | RPG_, I havn |
| 16:33.32 | JeffM2501 | t |
| 16:33.35 | JeffM2501 | not yet |
| 16:33.56 | JeffM2501 | he's also done server mods I am not entirely happy with on an ethical level |
| 16:33.58 | ToughShooter | sounds like no good reason for a forum |
| 16:34.12 | JeffM2501 | he's not going to use SF |
| 16:34.25 | JeffM2501 | he wasn't even going to do a VCS untill I mentioned it |
| 16:34.34 | JeffM2501 | he didn't even know what one was or why one would use one. |
| 16:34.54 | RPG_ | ~dict VCS |
| 16:35.02 | JeffM2501 | I mean I was telling him that I have an editor framework that is cross plat, and could be done on the mac side in total native carbon |
| 16:35.06 | ToughShooter | Version Control System |
| 16:35.07 | CBG | Why won't he use CF.net? |
| 16:35.10 | JeffM2501 | Version Controll System |
| 16:35.12 | CBG | he could make his own project |
| 16:35.20 | CBG | and you can have forums there... |
| 16:35.29 | RPG_ | those forums suck thouhg |
| 16:35.33 | CBG | so what? |
| 16:35.34 | JeffM2501 | he "dosn't like the way the bug tracker looks" |
| 16:35.38 | RPG_ | hah |
| 16:35.40 | CBG | hahaha!!! |
| 16:35.40 | RPG_ | it's too grey |
| 16:35.43 | ToughShooter | Eww |
| 16:36.45 | RPG_ | he just wants to feel special that he has a private forum |
| 16:36.46 | JeffM2501 | he also quit his old project because they used STL and he thinks STL is ugly crap, because it's not done in "carbon" |
| 16:36.57 | RPG_ | ego, stubborn |
| 16:36.57 | JeffM2501 | yes that is what I think as well |
| 16:37.31 | JeffM2501 | but the he was saying he'd add you 2 to the project |
| 16:37.43 | JeffM2501 | as if just because there were more people I'd give it to him |
| 16:37.43 | brlcad | hey, more power to him if he can get anywhere with it |
| 16:37.47 | brlcad | even if he probably won't |
| 16:37.51 | RPG_ | me? |
| 16:38.07 | RPG_ | i don't even own a mac |
| 16:38.08 | JeffM2501 | yeah, I am all for a new editor |
| 16:38.13 | JeffM2501 | RPG_, HA |
| 16:38.27 | JeffM2501 | I was trying to see if he would actualy DO it |
| 16:38.37 | JeffM2501 | because that woudl help a lot of people out |
| 16:38.46 | RPG_ | i know |
| 16:38.59 | JeffM2501 | but I think he's just geting people's hopes up with his talk and screen shots, when they don't know he really dosn't have anything |
| 16:39.12 | JeffM2501 | and that is not right |
| 16:39.22 | RPG_ | one of his "excuses" of not putting it public was what you just mentioned |
| 16:39.33 | JeffM2501 | I am hoping that if I impose some restriction oh him he'll actualy do it |
| 16:39.51 | JeffM2501 | RPG_, exactly, you don't need a forum untill you have STUFF |
| 16:40.06 | JeffM2501 | he also said he "wasn't an e-mail kinda guy" |
| 16:40.09 | RPG_ | heh |
| 16:40.20 | RPG_ | how many private forums are there? |
| 16:40.41 | RPG_ | or am i not authorized to know that? |
| 16:41.14 | ToughShooter | I tried to make my own map editor and failed, it's harder than I thought (I never got the 3D preview working) |
| 16:41.48 | JeffM2501 | ToughShooter, that's the easy part :) |
| 16:42.00 | JeffM2501 | that's the part I'd be willing to help him with |
| 16:42.04 | RPG_ | I think if he makes it public, in the BZEdit forums, he'll be more inspired to finish it because he's got many people nagging him |
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| 16:42.14 | JeffM2501 | that's the part that my editor framework as as common code |
| 16:42.20 | RPG_ | ...but that's only if he works well under pressur |
| 16:42.21 | RPG_ | e |
| 16:42.23 | ToughShooter | JeffM2501: Easy? :o |
| 16:42.47 | JeffM2501 | RPG_, I don't think he works much at all. He has little knowledge about C and C++. He talks big, but really just is a hack. |
| 16:42.51 | JeffM2501 | ToughShooter, totaly |
| 16:43.18 | JeffM2501 | I made the world renderer for bzedit in a couple hours. the rest of the time was the editor features, those are hard. |
| 16:44.27 | ToughShooter | Doing stuff like parsers etc is very easy, just needed to be done in Haskell ;) |
| 16:44.34 | JeffM2501 | the big thing I don't like is his unwillingness to make a design that allows the code to be reused on other OSs |
| 16:44.46 | JeffM2501 | ToughShooter, map parser is cake in C++ |
| 16:44.53 | JeffM2501 | tokenize is your friend |
| 16:45.15 | RPG_ | yea, a prototype for windows and nix would be pretty nice |
| 16:45.26 | RPG_ | like, how many percent of us use macs? |
| 16:45.32 | JeffM2501 | exactly |
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| 16:45.49 | JeffM2501 | and if you do your code right, you can have a native design on each OS, that just shares the non interface code |
| 16:45.59 | JeffM2501 | like that GL drawing, and map reading and editor functions |
| 16:46.17 | JeffM2501 | but I mean he quit his old project because they chose to use fopen |
| 16:46.24 | JeffM2501 | instead of the mac specific file open call |
| 16:46.29 | RPG_ | ?????] |
| 16:46.44 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 16:46.52 | RPG_ | maybe he's a person sent form hell to convert us all to mac-ism |
| 16:46.56 | JeffM2501 | and I'm like "carbon just ends up calling fopen in the end" |
| 16:47.05 | RPG_ | ...but it's a "carbon fopen" |
| 16:47.18 | JeffM2501 | it has some other options, but yeah |
| 16:47.21 | JeffM2501 | he didn't get it |
| 16:48.24 | JeffM2501 | I built a framework for an editor that had all the proper abstractions |
| 16:48.33 | JeffM2501 | I even made a carbon native OSX side for it |
| 16:48.39 | RPG_ | windows? |
| 16:48.47 | JeffM2501 | at present it does windows and OSX |
| 16:48.54 | JeffM2501 | linux is stubed |
| 16:49.12 | JeffM2501 | only because I don't know GTK or any other X window manager API |
| 16:49.53 | JeffM2501 | it workes a bit like BZ, where there is a platform class for each OS that does the low end stuff |
| 16:50.07 | JeffM2501 | and the high level editor code just calls that |
| 16:50.11 | ToughShooter | JeffM2501: I have to admit I don't know C/C++/Objective-C etc at all |
| 16:50.29 | JeffM2501 | ToughShooter, what were you making an editor in then? |
| 16:50.34 | RPG_ | lol! |
| 16:50.40 | ToughShooter | Python |
| 16:50.50 | JeffM2501 | RPG_, it's not funny, there are many languages |
| 16:50.56 | JeffM2501 | python is a valid choice |
| 16:51.13 | JeffM2501 | even easer for you, pybzedit had a full map reader/renderer |
| 16:51.18 | JeffM2501 | you could just use that |
| 16:51.27 | ToughShooter | and made some starting with tkinter (because I've worked with that before) |
| 16:52.22 | ToughShooter | I think pybzedit is dead and I can't run it with 10.4. In addition to that I sold my 10.3 license |
| 16:53.38 | JeffM2501 | it's python, it shoudl run on anything |
| 16:53.52 | JeffM2501 | as long as you have the packages |
| 16:54.21 | JeffM2501 | but even then if you wanted to change what packages it used for rendering and stuff, you could do that, and use the existing code as a base |
| 16:54.34 | ToughShooter | Dependency problems with packages, all installed but they won't work together |
| 16:55.12 | JeffM2501 | that's not it's fualt, that's pythons fualt, and the people who made the packages |
| 16:55.17 | ToughShooter | one packet needed an older python and the other use a newer version |
| 16:55.37 | JeffM2501 | I'm not saying make your thing on top of pybzflag, I'm just saying it has the code you need, pick and pull |
| 16:55.49 | JeffM2501 | ToughShooter, that's just lame package maintaiers |
| 16:56.08 | ToughShooter | The preview doesn't work for me. I get the full GUI except the preview... |
| 16:56.21 | JeffM2501 | then you don't have GL hooked into your python |
| 16:56.34 | JeffM2501 | fix that and your good |
| 16:59.03 | ToughShooter | I'll install all packages again to see again where the problem is exactly, one moment please |
| 17:01.37 | RPG_ | what about opencombat? |
| 17:02.41 | CBG | shush!! |
| 17:02.59 | RPG_ | huh? |
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| 17:10.43 | JeffM2501 | what about what? |
| 17:10.50 | RPG_ | opencombaat |
| 17:11.00 | JeffM2501 | what bout it? |
| 17:11.13 | CBG | RPG_ see? :P |
| 17:11.13 | RPG_ | is it still active? |
| 17:11.27 | RPG_ | it sounded real cool |
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| 17:18.40 | JeffM2501 | I do some of the engine work every so often |
| 17:18.42 | JeffM2501 | it's just me |
| 17:18.46 | JeffM2501 | so not much motivation |
| 17:18.54 | JeffM2501 | it's more fun to work on things that involve others |
| 17:25.55 | CBG | so, estimated release would be 2010? :) |
| 17:26.53 | CBG | JeffM2501: spam: http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?t=4900&highlight= |
| 17:27.15 | ToughShooter | JeffM2501: wxpython is linked against python and py-OpenGL is linked against python23 which seems to cause the problem |
| 17:27.41 | CBG | JeffM2501: all posts by this guy = spam. http://my.bzflag.org/bb/search.php?search_author=libertarian |
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| 17:30.40 | JeffM2501 | ToughShooter, then the wxpython people need to upgrade |
| 17:30.46 | JeffM2501 | but that's from pybzedit |
| 17:30.50 | JeffM2501 | I was saying form pybzflag |
| 17:30.58 | JeffM2501 | I don't think it uses wx |
| 17:33.50 | JeffM2501 | ToughShooter, were you making your own editor? or just playing at geting pybzedit to work? |
| 17:34.20 | ToughShooter | I was trying to make my own one but failed horribly with the preview |
| 17:34.54 | JeffM2501 | what GL system were you using with python? |
| 17:34.58 | JeffM2501 | or even using GL at alL? |
| 17:35.48 | JeffM2501 | basicly was your problem ,geting the 3d display to work? or not knowing how to draw the map? |
| 17:36.02 | ToughShooter | I had several aproaches. I used a tkinter canvas |
| 17:36.25 | JeffM2501 | what is that? I am not familaiar with it |
| 17:36.43 | ToughShooter | tkinter is a open source python gui |
| 17:36.49 | JeffM2501 | ahhhh |
| 17:36.50 | JeffM2501 | ok |
| 17:37.02 | JeffM2501 | so does it have a way to create a GL context in a window? |
| 17:37.09 | JeffM2501 | is that what a "canvas" is? |
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| 17:37.31 | ToughShooter | I wrote an client for sending query strings to my Haskell server 2 months ago with it |
| 17:37.39 | ToughShooter | http://www.pythonware.com/library/tkinter/introduction/canvas.htm |
| 17:38.39 | JeffM2501 | that just looks like a widget for a drawing program thingy |
| 17:39.23 | JeffM2501 | if you used that for your main view, you'd have to do your own rendering of the 3d model into the 2d window |
| 17:39.25 | ToughShooter | I use to do abstract work, not drawing stuff. Except drawing fractals I've no experience in this regard |
| 17:39.46 | JeffM2501 | I think what you want is a widget that gives you an openGL 3d view |
| 17:39.53 | JeffM2501 | not one that lets you draw in 2d |
| 17:39.58 | JeffM2501 | you don't want to do your own rendering |
| 17:40.35 | JeffM2501 | GL is prety easy |
| 17:41.09 | JeffM2501 | and like I say, once you have the context inited, you have at least 2 examples of how to draw the map in GL, in python |
| 17:42.47 | JeffM2501 | that's the job of the GL widget usualy |
| 17:44.00 | JeffM2501 | I wasn't able to see if they had a GL widget in there |
| 17:44.05 | JeffM2501 | they have crapy searches |
| 17:44.28 | ToughShooter | I only found this: http://www.pythonware.com/library/tkinter/introduction/tkinter-classes.htm |
| 17:45.18 | JeffM2501 | you'd probably have to derive off of the canvas widget and bind in your own GL context |
| 17:45.51 | JeffM2501 | a user may have allready done that tho |
| 17:45.57 | JeffM2501 | since 3d is rather popular |
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| 17:47.10 | JeffM2501 | I'm not a fan of the one size fits all GUI systems tho |
| 17:48.22 | ToughShooter | After searching I was at py-OpenGL again. sigh |
| 17:49.28 | ToughShooter | Me, either but I don't know of a better way |
| 17:49.36 | JeffM2501 | as far as I know, thats the only GL bindings to python |
| 17:49.50 | JeffM2501 | ToughShooter, learn something new and better :) |
| 17:51.56 | ToughShooter | I'm a theory centered person. Now I should learn something that is really of use? :o I know why I gave up. There's no point in fighting against such problems |
| 17:52.20 | JeffM2501 | then they never get solved |
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| 17:53.28 | ToughShooter | I could develop and entire new GUI system framework for python but I don't have that much time |
| 17:53.48 | JeffM2501 | or just figure out how to bind a GL context, that would take less time ;) |
| 17:54.06 | JeffM2501 | you even have code with examples :0 |
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| 17:58.52 | blast007 | http://pyopengl.sourceforge.net/pydoc/OpenGLContext.tkcontext.html (not sure if that's of any help) |
| 18:01.21 | Demon[transl] | bye guys |
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| 18:03.28 | James4 | hey yall |
| 18:04.13 | ToughShooter | I can't do anything with it because I don't know how to embed. Searching the pybzedit files for opengl resulted in nothing found so it will be time-intensive to figure out |
| 18:05.32 | JeffM2501 | yeah I guess it woudl take more then 5 min |
| 18:06.37 | JeffM2501 | brad2901, are you here? |
| 18:07.39 | brad2901 | yep |
| 18:07.57 | JeffM2501 | are you doing somethign with an account "bzbot" ? |
| 18:08.07 | brad2901 | just registered it |
| 18:08.08 | brad2901 | why? |
| 18:08.11 | JeffM2501 | what's it for? |
| 18:08.20 | brad2901 | to test 'stuff' |
| 18:08.26 | JeffM2501 | define "stuff" please |
| 18:08.47 | brad2901 | A PHP thing blast007 is working on |
| 18:08.55 | JeffM2501 | why does it need a forum account? |
| 18:09.14 | brad2901 | so it can globally register :) |
| 18:09.26 | JeffM2501 | why would a php page need to globaly register? |
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| 18:09.37 | brad2901 | It connects to a BZ server |
| 18:09.40 | blast007 | it's not a PHP page, it's command line based |
| 18:09.42 | JeffM2501 | as a client? |
| 18:09.45 | JeffM2501 | eww |
| 18:09.47 | JeffM2501 | ok |
| 18:09.52 | JeffM2501 | is this the masterbot thing? |
| 18:10.05 | brad2901 | nope |
| 18:10.09 | JeffM2501 | what is it? |
| 18:10.20 | blast007 | just something I'm messing around with right now |
| 18:10.23 | JeffM2501 | I'd like the word "test" in the name |
| 18:10.40 | brad2901 | so bzbot isn't allowed then? |
| 18:10.54 | JeffM2501 | it is somehwat of a reserved name, and it is somewhat misleading |
| 18:10.59 | brad2901 | ok. |
| 18:11.03 | JeffM2501 | if you are using it for testing, and that's fine, I'd like the name testing in it |
| 18:11.18 | brad2901 | changing now |
| 18:11.28 | JeffM2501 | tho I am curiious why you'd need a php page to log into a server |
| 18:11.46 | Mrhankeythechris | JeffM2501 |
| 18:11.51 | JeffM2501 | Mrhankeythechris |
| 18:12.10 | Mrhankeythechris | do u know anyone who is looking for a server to host |
| 18:12.16 | JeffM2501 | what? |
| 18:12.36 | Mrhankeythechris | do u know any players who would like to host a new server |
| 18:12.42 | Mrhankeythechris | i went a post in fourms |
| 18:12.54 | Mrhankeythechris | and know one is wanting to do it |
| 18:13.00 | JeffM2501 | umm ok |
| 18:13.06 | JeffM2501 | so post |
| 18:13.10 | brlcad | o.O |
| 18:13.12 | JeffM2501 | and see if anyone repsonds |
| 18:13.27 | Mrhankeythechris | kk |
| 18:13.32 | Mrhankeythechris | g2g cya |
| 18:13.37 | JeffM2501 | you don't have to ask permision to post man |
| 18:13.53 | JeffM2501 | ummm yeah right... now where were we? |
| 18:13.56 | JeffM2501 | oh yeah |
| 18:13.58 | brlcad | with him, maybe it's a good thing that he does |
| 18:14.10 | JeffM2501 | are you doing like bzadmin via web? chat ? what? |
| 18:14.19 | JeffM2501 | or another server scaner? |
| 18:14.23 | JeffM2501 | like stats |
| 18:14.45 | blast007 | it could do stuff like storing player positions in a database, responding to events, etc |
| 18:15.08 | JeffM2501 | why not do that server side? |
| 18:15.38 | blast007 | I started this before plugins existed |
| 18:15.43 | JeffM2501 | then you'd not have to change your php every time proto changes |
| 18:16.11 | blast007 | that shouldn't be much of an issue |
| 18:16.22 | blast007 | I ported the nbo functions over |
| 18:16.23 | JeffM2501 | 2.1.x will break your thing |
| 18:16.33 | JeffM2501 | as soon as we change the proto |
| 18:16.57 | JeffM2501 | I understand doing it for a SBO type scan |
| 18:17.11 | JeffM2501 | but for events and player postions' i'd run from the server |
| 18:17.22 | JeffM2501 | I put in stuff to send out URL info in the API |
| 18:17.32 | JeffM2501 | so you can send data to your php realy easy |
| 18:18.01 | JeffM2501 | I also wonder why the masterbot people haven't gone that way ether |
| 18:18.20 | JeffM2501 | tho it sounds like your 2 project will have some common code, that does the protocoll |
| 18:18.47 | blast007 | there has been some discussion about using my stuff in masterbot, but as you said, protocol changes would break it |
| 18:19.40 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 18:20.02 | JeffM2501 | purple_cow_'s idea of puting a twisted web server in the plugin has the most merit I think |
| 18:20.08 | JeffM2501 | then the game is the server, it runs the pages and stuff |
| 18:20.13 | blast007 | :) |
| 18:20.16 | JeffM2501 | and there isn't a "user" or anything |
| 18:20.26 | JeffM2501 | could probably imbed apache into it too |
| 18:20.41 | JeffM2501 | or a sql lib and have the plugin put data right into the sql database |
| 18:20.51 | JeffM2501 | then the php just be an interface for it |
| 18:21.04 | JeffM2501 | that'd be prety cool |
| 18:21.09 | blast007 | yeah |
| 18:23.34 | blast007 | lol |
| 18:23.49 | ToughShooter | JeffM2501: I'm going just to copy the drawing part but adding own functionaly and GUI around it. That won't make me understanding it but it'll be likely to work |
| 18:23.55 | JeffM2501 | well there is "that source" comin out soon |
| 18:24.26 | JeffM2501 | ToughShooter, that's what I was thinking you'd do, that way you at least see it, and get to use it, maybe a bit woudl rub off on ya :) |
| 18:29.33 | brad2901 | [SERVER->] Unknown command [kick] |
| 18:29.44 | brad2901 | Has something changed? |
| 18:29.59 | Birdie | you placed a reason? |
| 18:30.15 | brad2901 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:30.15 | Birdie | (if that can be the reason why it didnt worked) |
| 18:30.33 | brad2901 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:30.35 | JeffM2501 | did you change your sever code? |
| 18:30.38 | brad2901 | nope |
| 18:30.41 | brad2901 | this is b15 |
| 18:30.47 | trepan | there's typos, and there's omissions |
| 18:30.54 | brad2901 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:31.09 | JeffM2501 | brad2901, when was the last version that you used that worked? |
| 18:31.11 | JeffM2501 | b15? |
| 18:31.13 | JeffM2501 | or before? |
| 18:31.16 | brad2901 | b1 |
| 18:31.18 | brad2901 | b14 |
| 18:31.21 | trepan | ah, he's broken off a new file |
| 18:31.21 | JeffM2501 | so you did change code |
| 18:31.26 | brad2901 | no |
| 18:31.27 | JeffM2501 | you went from 14 to 15 |
| 18:31.31 | JeffM2501 | YES YOU DID |
| 18:31.33 | JeffM2501 | you upgraded |
| 18:31.35 | brad2901 | eh |
| 18:31.37 | brad2901 | oh :) |
| 18:31.38 | brad2901 | fine |
| 18:31.54 | blast007 | he didn't "change the code", that was the devs that did ;) |
| 18:31.55 | JeffM2501 | as trepan states it's probably a bug tupone did |
| 18:32.00 | brad2901 | ok |
| 18:32.04 | JeffM2501 | blast007, he updated his code to new ones |
| 18:32.07 | JeffM2501 | or I broke it |
| 18:32.11 | JeffM2501 | as I did some command changes |
| 18:32.21 | JeffM2501 | but I tested it |
| 18:33.34 | brad2901 | oh, and /me prints out random characters |
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| 18:37.18 | JeffM2501 | hmmmm, actualy my changes were after 15 I thought |
| 18:38.10 | JeffM2501 | I made it so that /set would tell you when there was an error, and not boradcast it |
| 18:39.32 | orange | odd, there are times on silvercat babel where all the buildings turn completely white... anybody seen that? |
| 18:39.39 | orange | seems to be only at certain angles |
| 18:39.44 | orange | or something |
| 18:40.09 | trepan | orange: you have a CVS client? |
| 18:40.12 | orange | yes |
| 18:40.16 | orange | from a couple days ago |
| 18:40.27 | trepan | use /roampos to get the coordinates |
| 18:40.37 | trepan | see if the daytime and lat/long make a diff too |
| 18:41.40 | JeffM2501 | yeah I'm guessing that the commit with the note "write a simple diagnostic if /xxx? does not match any command" just MAY be the cause |
| 18:41.44 | orange | hmm, doesn't seem to be based on position now... I am roaming and sitting still and it just flashes all white from time to time |
| 18:42.20 | orange | buildings and puramids turn white, concrete floor stays |
| 18:42.35 | JeffM2501 | ibot message for tupone, dude test your stuff before you check it in, none of the / commands work now. NOT COOL. |
| 18:42.49 | JeffM2501 | pot... this kettle..... your black.... |
| 18:42.55 | brad2901 | not all them don't work |
| 18:43.08 | JeffM2501 | brad2901, shhhhhhhhhhhhhh ;) |
| 18:43.10 | brad2901 | /set, /say, /loadplugin work :) |
| 18:43.12 | brad2901 | heh |
| 18:43.26 | JeffM2501 | we've been having a problem with his commits of late |
| 18:43.41 | orange | what's snapshot key? |
| 18:43.54 | RPG_ | F5 |
| 18:43.57 | JeffM2501 | if he's not back by the time I'm done with lunch I will flat out revert his changes. |
| 18:44.13 | trepan | JeffM2501: which commands (exact string) aren't working? |
| 18:46.12 | trepan | <PROTECTED> |
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| 18:51.09 | brad2901 | I have 4 plugins loaded if that makes any difference |
| 18:51.37 | orange | anybody seen a player with -2147483648ms jitter? |
| 18:51.40 | brad2901 | shockwavedeath, roguegenocide, airspawn, playhistorytracker |
| 18:51.47 | trepan | orange: yup, seen it before |
| 18:51.55 | orange | same player, left and came back, same |
| 18:51.57 | RPG_ | heh, negative lag |
| 18:51.58 | brad2901 | orange: bier on gu 5154 |
| 18:52.05 | brad2901 | and zoly |
| 18:52.54 | orange | could it be related to a cheat? Or just odd networking? |
| 18:53.52 | brad2901 | zoly said it was the latest CVS causing problems for him |
| 18:53.59 | brad2901 | same with bier |
| 18:55.54 | orange | I run with pretty new CVS with no problem |
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| 18:57.12 | ibunny | tada! |
| 18:57.19 | orange | no problem except my white buildings :-) |
| 18:57.27 | ibunny | hey brlcad you sexy pie |
| 18:57.39 | RPG_ | ~lick ibunny |
| 18:57.39 | ibot | ACTION licks ibunny *SHLUUURRRRPPP* |
| 18:57.48 | Birdie | ibunny bunny |
| 18:58.44 | ibunny | interesting... |
| 18:58.46 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03trepan * 10bzflag/src/ (ogl/OpenGLTexture.cxx bzflag/defaultBZDB.cxx): allow larger textures |
| 18:59.52 | trepan | also have a non-power-of-two diff, but the mipmap routine goes weird sometimes |
| 19:01.47 | gina | argh telenet is taking over the channel |
| 19:02.14 | Birdie | gina!!!!!!!!!!! |
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| 19:23.26 | menotume | helllllllos, orchid |
| 19:23.36 | orchid | hi |
| 19:23.45 | RPG_ | howdy |
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| 19:32.38 | brlcad | hello ibunny |
| 19:32.44 | RPG_ | howdy |
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| 19:33.41 | brlcad | oh! |
| 19:34.17 | Grumbler | ? |
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| 19:34.59 | Grumbler | silver......by god man, are you selling blood? |
| 19:35.02 | menotume | did you drop the baton on your head ? |
| 19:35.18 | menotume | brlcad: did you drop the baton on your head ? |
| 19:35.21 | brlcad | cheaper than cable ;) |
| 19:35.35 | brlcad | and more useful |
| 19:35.46 | Grumbler | .....and more porn, but ...... |
| 19:35.46 | brlcad | menotume: no, but I regularly hit myself with it |
| 19:35.56 | menotume | heh |
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| 20:05.41 | JeffM2501 | trepan, did you find out your /command answer? |
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| 20:15.32 | trepan | JeffM2501: seems to work for me |
| 20:15.45 | JeffM2501 | wierdness |
| 20:15.57 | JeffM2501 | I'll set up a server and try it here |
| 20:16.06 | JeffM2501 | woudln't be the first time tupy busted somethign on windows |
| 20:17.57 | JeffM2501 | mmmmm.... lush |
| 20:18.35 | trepan | wondering if "/plugin load|list|unload" mighten be a better format (a la record/replay) |
| 20:18.49 | JeffM2501 | trepan, yeah it's been talked about, I think it would be |
| 20:18.52 | RPG_ | i'd like /plugin list |
| 20:18.54 | JeffM2501 | I just haven't goten around to it |
| 20:18.59 | JeffM2501 | RPG_, there is a /listplugins |
| 20:19.02 | RPG_ | oh |
| 20:19.05 | RPG_ | neat-o |
| 20:19.40 | trepan | JeffM2501: hook it in so that /plugin shows in /cmds |
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| 20:20.16 | JeffM2501 | trepan, what is /cmds ? |
| 20:21.13 | trepan | cient-side command listing, also sends out /? for server-side listing |
| 20:21.28 | trepan | probably need a better name for that too |
| 20:21.41 | JeffM2501 | I'll have to find it, cus I'm betting it dosn't list any of the custom / commands |
| 20:21.46 | JeffM2501 | they all should be added |
| 20:21.55 | RPG_ | yes they should |
| 20:22.08 | JeffM2501 | it should be simple to scan the list when it's done and tack em on the end |
| 20:22.23 | trepan | list is formatted alphetically |
| 20:22.36 | JeffM2501 | ok then we do it before the sort :) |
| 20:22.46 | trepan | na, i'd do plugin commands separately |
| 20:22.48 | JeffM2501 | the custom list is sorted alphabeticly |
| 20:22.53 | JeffM2501 | so just put them at the end |
| 20:23.31 | trepan | throw in a third listing for /cmds (client/server/plugins) |
| 20:24.13 | JeffM2501 | I'm sure tupy will be glad to do it ;) |
| 20:24.19 | JeffM2501 | but right now I have to download a zip file |
| 20:25.25 | JeffM2501 | the quake3 stuff just droped |
| 20:27.22 | JeffM2501 | time to see how nasty it is |
| 20:28.59 | JeffM2501 | oh how Johnny still loves his c |
| 20:38.42 | RPG_ | can you make the server speak in muticolor text from the API? |
| 20:38.51 | trepan | no |
| 20:38.54 | RPG_ | awwww |
| 20:38.54 | JeffM2501 | sure |
| 20:38.57 | RPG_ | cooool |
| 20:39.02 | JeffM2501 | isn't it just codes in the text? |
| 20:39.10 | RPG_ | beats me |
| 20:39.17 | JeffM2501 | wasn't asking you :) |
| 20:39.27 | trepan | JeffM2501: yup |
| 20:39.35 | JeffM2501 | if it's codes in the text then you shoudl be able to sove them in |
| 20:39.39 | JeffM2501 | there is no api to do it tho |
| 20:39.44 | JeffM2501 | so you'd ahve to do it all yourself |
| 20:39.45 | trepan | you shove them in all you want |
| 20:39.51 | trepan | s/you/you can |
| 20:39.51 | JeffM2501 | will they get filtered? |
| 20:39.58 | trepan | bingo |
| 20:40.06 | JeffM2501 | who filters them? |
| 20:40.13 | trepan | the client |
| 20:40.23 | JeffM2501 | on just server messages? |
| 20:40.30 | JeffM2501 | or all net messages? |
| 20:40.31 | trepan | all MsgMessages |
| 20:40.36 | JeffM2501 | so it can do its own formating |
| 20:40.53 | RPG_ | when you type /set, there is a multicolored list |
| 20:41.01 | RPG_ | i wanted to duplicate that for /match config list |
| 20:41.04 | trepan | generated client side |
| 20:41.06 | JeffM2501 | RPG_, that dosn't come back as a msgMSG tho |
| 20:41.15 | RPG_ | right |
| 20:41.19 | JeffM2501 | ok, it's so that users can't type in color and screw people up |
| 20:41.22 | JeffM2501 | yeah your hozed |
| 20:41.27 | JeffM2501 | probably for the best |
| 20:41.30 | JeffM2501 | color is ugly |
| 20:41.54 | trepan | color can be quite useful, but ugly in the hands of kiddies |
| 20:41.57 | JeffM2501 | whoooo lookit that quake crash |
| 20:57.35 | RPG_ | here's a n00b question: in my plugin, how would i convert a string (such as "3") to an int? |
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| 21:01.14 | trepan | atoi() is the simple way |
| 21:01.42 | JeffM2501 | sscanf is the long way |
| 21:02.22 | trepan | strtol and friends are probably the better way |
| 21:02.43 | JeffM2501 | mmmmm strs |
| 21:02.50 | RPG_ | atoi() sounds good |
| 21:03.49 | JeffM2501 | what is your input? |
| 21:04.05 | RPG_ | std::string |
| 21:04.15 | JeffM2501 | then use strtol |
| 21:04.31 | RPG_ | actuallly, std::vector |
| 21:04.38 | JeffM2501 | a vector of what? |
| 21:04.43 | RPG_ | <int> params |
| 21:04.53 | JeffM2501 | then where are the strings? |
| 21:04.58 | RPG_ | the params |
| 21:05.09 | RPG_ | params[3] == "6" |
| 21:05.10 | JeffM2501 | you just said the input was a vector of ints |
| 21:05.18 | JeffM2501 | so params is ints? |
| 21:05.21 | JeffM2501 | or strings? |
| 21:05.23 | RPG_ | strings |
| 21:05.32 | JeffM2501 | so a vector of strings |
| 21:05.34 | RPG_ | std::vector <int> params |
| 21:05.39 | RPG_ | ta'ts what MSVC++ says |
| 21:05.40 | JeffM2501 | that is a vector of INTS |
| 21:05.47 | RPG_ | but it contains strings |
| 21:05.48 | JeffM2501 | there are no strings in that definition |
| 21:05.51 | JeffM2501 | no it dosn't |
| 21:05.54 | JeffM2501 | it contains ints |
| 21:06.13 | JeffM2501 | params[0] = "your mom"; will fail |
| 21:06.26 | RPG_ | MSVC++ gave me the wrong def; i looked it up myself, and it's actually: |
| 21:06.26 | RPG_ | std::vector<std::string> params |
| 21:06.30 | JeffM2501 | there ya go |
| 21:06.37 | JeffM2501 | then the vector dosn't mater |
| 21:06.53 | JeffM2501 | strtol on each element, will return you an int |
| 21:07.10 | JeffM2501 | so you can do if strtol(params[0]) == 3 |
| 21:07.20 | JeffM2501 | or > or < or whatnot |
| 21:08.04 | trepan | long int strtol(const char *nptr, char **endptr, int base); |
| 21:10.10 | trepan | man atoi: behaviour is the same as strtol(nptr, (char **)NULL, 10); except that atoi() does not detect errors |
| 21:10.34 | JeffM2501 | fun |
| 21:10.44 | JeffM2501 | RPG_, where did your input come from? |
| 21:10.50 | JeffM2501 | what filled the vector of strings? |
| 21:10.53 | RPG_ | _message |
| 21:10.59 | JeffM2501 | ahh |
| 21:11.01 | JeffM2501 | humans then |
| 21:11.07 | RPG_ | as in: |
| 21:11.07 | RPG_ | /match config set _capNum 4 |
| 21:11.08 | JeffM2501 | yeah detect erros liek trepan shows |
| 21:11.25 | trepan | to detect errors, you have to check the pointers |
| 21:11.47 | JeffM2501 | he has MSDN he can figure it out :) |
| 21:11.53 | RPG_ | yes |
| 21:12.03 | RPG_ | i typed in strtol and it gave me the help page on it |
| 21:13.15 | RPG_ | g:\Programs\Dev-Cpp\repisitories\bzflag\plugins\racetoseven\racetoseven.cpp(396) : error C2664: 'strtol' : cannot convert parameter 1 from 'std::allocator<_Ty>::value_type' to 'const char *' |
| 21:13.23 | RPG_ | strtol(params[3], NULL, 100); |
| 21:13.25 | menotume | how about: if ( sscanf (params[0], "%ld", &x) != 1 ) { process error here } |
| 21:13.34 | menotume | base 100 won't work |
| 21:13.40 | JeffM2501 | yet another way |
| 21:13.44 | JeffM2501 | there are many ways to do it |
| 21:13.47 | RPG_ | base 10, right? |
| 21:13.51 | menotume | yes, 10 |
| 21:13.55 | trepan | .c_str() |
| 21:14.33 | RPG_ | hmm, when i typed . after params[3], it didn't show the list of functions liek it always does |
| 21:14.41 | RPG_ | so i assumed i couldnt' use c_str() |
| 21:14.45 | RPG_ | but i put it on and now it works |
| 21:15.00 | JeffM2501 | RPG_, autocomplete dosn't allways complete |
| 21:15.09 | JeffM2501 | usualy off of an operator |
| 21:15.10 | JeffM2501 | like [] |
| 21:15.13 | RPG_ | heh |
| 21:15.16 | RPG_ | i'll remember that |
| 21:15.30 | JeffM2501 | it's just there to help, don't relly on it, know your templates |
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| 21:27.48 | _Captain_Kirk_ | hi |
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| 21:31.37 | brad2901 | Should it not error if you try to load a plugin twice? |
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| 21:32.57 | _Captain_Kirk_ | What? |
| 21:33.30 | JeffM2501 | brad2901, no tehcincaly it's valid |
| 21:33.39 | JeffM2501 | just often stupid |
| 21:34.04 | JeffM2501 | at some point I am going to make a plugin say "yes I am to be unique" and have it error |
| 21:34.17 | JeffM2501 | but you could have the same plugin take difrent input, and be loaded twice. |
| 21:34.29 | RPG_ | you mean two instances of the pluigin would be runnign? |
| 21:34.29 | JeffM2501 | like 2 login plugins or something |
| 21:34.35 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 21:35.50 | brad2901 | oh |
| 21:36.34 | JeffM2501 | it techincaly could be valid |
| 21:36.43 | JeffM2501 | usualy it's not tho |
| 21:36.47 | brad2901 | ok |
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| 22:13.32 | RPG_ | g:\Programs\Dev-Cpp\repisitories\bzflag\plugins\racetoseven\racetoseven.cpp(232) : warning C4822: 'RaceToSevenAutomatic::process::RaceToSeven::handle' : local class member function does not have a body |
| 22:13.41 | RPG_ | eh? |
| 22:13.49 | _Captain_Kirk_ | Hiya RPG |
| 22:13.51 | _Captain_Kirk_ | I got the CMS... |
| 22:13.58 | RPG_ | hi 343 |
| 22:14.01 | RPG_ | does it not work? |
| 22:14.10 | _Captain_Kirk_ | Yup |
| 22:14.16 | RPG_ | awww what happened? |
| 22:14.20 | _Captain_Kirk_ | Apparently the dates in the DB are encoded or something... |
| 22:14.25 | JeffM2501 | RPG_, did you leave the = 0; at the end of the defenition? |
| 22:14.33 | _Captain_Kirk_ | no it does owrk |
| 22:14.37 | _Captain_Kirk_ | everything but the uploads |
| 22:14.43 | _Captain_Kirk_ | cause im using windoze |
| 22:15.08 | _Captain_Kirk_ | I tried editing the DB to make it say on the DB list i was going to upload the site by january 4, 1824 |
| 22:15.19 | RPG_ | Jeffm: what def? |
| 22:15.27 | JeffM2501 | for the function in question |
| 22:15.37 | RPG_ | _Captain_Kirk_: the dates are in UNIX time format |
| 22:15.54 | RPG_ | google "unix time converter" and you'll get some good links |
| 22:15.59 | _Captain_Kirk_ | and how is that different from windows? |
| 22:16.18 | RPG_ | Jeffm: I don't know where'd you'd put = 0 |
| 22:16.19 | JeffM2501 | windows DOSN'T use the linux time format |
| 22:16.32 | RPG_ | JeffM: it's a PHP script, designed for LInux servers |
| 22:16.38 | JeffM2501 | RPG_, where is the prototype for your "handle" function? |
| 22:16.42 | _Captain_Kirk_ | how about IN_PHPSITE=0? |
| 22:16.56 | JeffM2501 | RPG_, he has little clue about most things |
| 22:17.17 | RPG_ | captinakirk_ don't touch that! |
| 22:17.23 | JeffM2501 | see |
| 22:17.26 | RPG_ | no prototype |
| 22:17.28 | _Captain_Kirk_ | I know what it does |
| 22:17.32 | RPG_ | no prototypes at all |
| 22:17.33 | _Captain_Kirk_ | Jesh |
| 22:17.43 | RPG_ | 343: it's a security feature |
| 22:17.44 | JeffM2501 | did you derive a class off a class that has a handle method? |
| 22:17.47 | RPG_ | yes |
| 22:17.53 | RPG_ | RaceToSevenAutomatic::RaceToSevenAutomatic(){} |
| 22:17.53 | RPG_ | RaceToSevenAutomatic::~RaceToSevenAutomatic(){} |
| 22:17.57 | _Captain_Kirk_ | PHPbb has the same thing, its to protect against hackers |
| 22:18.00 | JeffM2501 | RPG_, did you NOT put the handle method in that derived class? |
| 22:18.37 | RPG_ | this is getting above my experience level :) |
| 22:18.48 | JeffM2501 | what class did you derive off of? |
| 22:18.49 | RPG_ | i didn't change the class sructure at all since last copmile |
| 22:18.57 | RPG_ | which leadds me to believe i mystped a bracket or something |
| 22:19.04 | JeffM2501 | probably |
| 22:19.12 | _Captain_Kirk_ | it works though |
| 22:19.14 | _Captain_Kirk_ | nicely |
| 22:19.15 | JeffM2501 | look above the handle function |
| 22:19.20 | _Captain_Kirk_ | except for the file uploads |
| 22:19.35 | _Captain_Kirk_ | You should program it to have more dates |
| 22:19.39 | RPG_ | they're not supposed to work on windows |
| 22:19.51 | RPG_ | 343: feature suggustions appreciated |
| 22:20.03 | RPG_ | jeffm: forgot a bracket, works good now |
| 22:20.27 | JeffM2501 | k |
| 22:20.29 | _Captain_Kirk_ | i didnt get to try it that much but does it have a built in downlads section? |
| 22:20.36 | RPG_ | 343: sortof |
| 22:20.48 | _Captain_Kirk_ | define "Sortof" |
| 22:20.57 | RPG_ | 343: when in the blog or page manager sections, you can "include an uploaded file" |
| 22:21.12 | RPG_ | i think the dialog box only appears if there is >1 uploaded files, though |
| 22:21.18 | JeffM2501 | how bout you 2 talk about your CMS in a /msg ok? |
| 22:21.31 | RPG_ | sure |
| 22:21.31 | _Captain_Kirk_ | I made a script for fun after I got PHP Unleashed, it tells if one number is evenly dividable by another...Only problem is that "F" is dividable by "g" |
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| 23:18.35 | trepan | JeffM2501: just looking at MsgFetchResources, should you really be using getMediaDirectory()? |
| 23:19.47 | trepan | doing it CacheManager style would be preferred, but failing that, sticking it in the cache/ dir might be better |
| 23:21.51 | JeffM2501 | the sound loader dosn't know about the cahce dir, was gonna change it all up in 2.1 |
| 23:22.09 | JeffM2501 | but no I should not be doing it right into the data dir |
| 23:22.22 | JeffM2501 | in 2.1 I want a user data dir, in addition to the cache dir |
| 23:22.37 | JeffM2501 | where downloadable content goes |
| 23:22.48 | trepan | yeah for that, it's still wrong at the moment ;) |
| 23:23.01 | JeffM2501 | it also was mostly a test |
| 23:23.06 | JeffM2501 | no "real" feature is using it |
| 23:23.17 | trepan | it's in the protocol, should fix it |
| 23:23.35 | JeffM2501 | well the proto would not change, just how the client responded to it |
| 23:23.51 | JeffM2501 | the sound system scares me |
| 23:24.10 | trepan | the mangloid d/ls worry me |
| 23:24.15 | trepan | nasty setup |
| 23:24.27 | JeffM2501 | I mean I should "do" lots of things, but that hasn't started me |
| 23:25.44 | JeffM2501 | I'll probably just pull the message and API till later, I don't intend to finish the vocaliser |
| 23:25.52 | JeffM2501 | since the client dosn't have macros |
| 23:27.44 | trepan | from yesterday: if you want compression, do it by filetype, forget libz |
| 23:27.55 | JeffM2501 | oh I didn't want compression |
| 23:28.15 | JeffM2501 | just the default libcurl now can link with zlib |
| 23:28.21 | trepan | you just want to know about libz w.r.t. curl for no reason? |
| 23:28.34 | JeffM2501 | was wondering if I should leave it, or work to remove it |
| 23:28.45 | JeffM2501 | I was upgrading my curl and saw the change |
| 23:29.02 | JeffM2501 | it meant adding one more DLL to the installer, no bigie |
| 23:29.17 | JeffM2501 | so it was just a packaging question |
| 23:29.29 | JeffM2501 | jus was wondering how the linux ones were usualy built in comparison |
| 23:30.20 | JeffM2501 | tho it woudln't be anything more to the package if bz didn't actualy use it's own zlib for some stupid reason |
| 23:31.50 | trepan | zlib standard on windows? |
| 23:32.01 | JeffM2501 | ohh hell no |
| 23:32.13 | JeffM2501 | but if bz didn't use it's own, I'd have allrady had to include the DLL :) |
| 23:32.56 | JeffM2501 | but since ours is all built right in, thre is no DLL for other DLLs to link to |
| 23:34.06 | trepan | ah, don't have that prob over here ;) |
| 23:34.22 | JeffM2501 | I know |
| 23:34.47 | JeffM2501 | the advantage of having curl as part of your system |
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