| 00:00.10 | me1 | trepan: which SW plugin? |
| 00:00.27 | TD-Linux | the shockwaveDeath plugin included in the plugin directory of CVS |
| 00:00.46 | JeffM2501 | that won't change the shots life |
| 00:00.57 | JeffM2501 | you can try it |
| 00:01.06 | TD-Linux | unless I make the swadlife really high |
| 00:01.11 | TD-Linux | and set the reloadtime really low |
| 00:01.14 | TD-Linux | that cuts them short |
| 00:01.24 | TD-Linux | and then I can make these longer by incresasing the reload time |
| 00:01.40 | TD-Linux | I think |
| 00:01.41 | *** part/#bzflag ToughShooter (n=ts@p54B00F20.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 00:01.48 | TD-Linux | original code: |
| 00:01.50 | TD-Linux | bz_fireWorldWep("SW",(float)bz_getBZDBDouble("_reloadTime"),playerToUse,dieData->pos,0,0,0,0.0f); |
| 00:01.52 | TD-Linux | new code: |
| 00:01.59 | JeffM2501 | I know what you did |
| 00:02.02 | JeffM2501 | just try it |
| 00:02.05 | TD-Linux | bz_fireWorldWep("SW",(float)60,playerToUse,dieData->pos,0,0,0,0.0f); |
| 00:02.09 | TD-Linux | is that right? |
| 00:02.26 | JeffM2501 | try and see |
| 00:03.17 | TD-Linux | hmm, need to get rid of (float) |
| 00:03.58 | JeffM2501 | learn basic C |
| 00:04.10 | TD-Linux | :P it was a typo |
| 00:04.18 | TD-Linux | kindof |
| 00:04.38 | TD-Linux | actually, I'm trying to make myself look smarter than I am :) |
| 00:05.56 | TD-Linux | my sw lasts forever now! |
| 00:06.00 | TD-Linux | a full minute of sw! |
| 00:06.12 | TD-Linux | hmmm, this could get interesting |
| 00:06.13 | blast007 | forever != minute |
| 00:06.29 | TD-Linux | imagine: a minefield of sw's left over from exploding tanks |
| 00:06.36 | TD-Linux | debris? |
| 00:06.54 | TD-Linux | it's a LONG time for a sw |
| 00:07.04 | *** join/#bzflag ep (n=ep@ip68-97-122-98.ok.ok.cox.net) |
| 00:09.23 | TD-Linux | thesse sw are lasting waaay longer than a minute |
| 00:09.29 | TD-Linux | nthe aren't moving |
| 00:09.48 | TD-Linux | mmayve two minutes? |
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| 00:13.56 | a_monkey | i have an idea |
| 00:14.29 | a_monkey | there should be colors in the server list for certain style places. ducati style places should be one color, etc |
| 00:14.30 | BenUrban | a monkey with an idea... |
| 00:14.37 | a_monkey | yes |
| 00:14.40 | BenUrban | hehe |
| 00:14.46 | BenUrban | just thought i'd point that out |
| 00:15.19 | a_monkey | well, my idea is pretty lame, now that i think of it |
| 00:15.26 | a_monkey | maybe i'll just write a patch for myself |
| 00:15.31 | blast007 | :) |
| 00:15.38 | a_monkey | heh |
| 00:15.48 | blast007 | could be a filter type thing |
| 00:15.52 | a_monkey | oo |
| 00:15.56 | a_monkey | even better |
| 00:16.11 | a_monkey | you'd program a little filter in the .cfg |
| 00:16.13 | blast007 | then you could have a filters/ directory, and it would load them |
| 00:16.14 | a_monkey | or something |
| 00:16.31 | a_monkey | that's cool |
| 00:16.42 | a_monkey | why can't i ever think of these things myself...? |
| 00:16.52 | a_monkey | ;) |
| 00:17.01 | TD-Linux | possibly have the server determine it's color on the list |
| 00:17.04 | blast007 | still, you started the discussion :) |
| 00:18.01 | TD-Linux | ~karma a_monkey |
| 00:18.01 | ibot | a_monkey has karma of 1 |
| 00:18.13 | TD-Linux | ~karma blast007 |
| 00:18.13 | ibot | blast007 has karma of 44 |
| 00:18.15 | TD-Linux | hmm |
| 00:18.41 | a_monkey | wondering about karma, eh? |
| 00:18.51 | TD-Linux | I don't even know what karma is |
| 00:18.59 | TD-Linux | but it's still interesting anyway |
| 00:19.02 | TD-Linux | :) |
| 00:19.19 | blast007 | google* |
| 00:19.20 | a_monkey | more karma = more badass |
| 00:19.25 | TD-Linux | hmmm |
| 00:19.29 | TD-Linux | what is that? |
| 00:19.36 | a_monkey | less karma = more lame |
| 00:19.41 | TD-Linux | hmmm |
| 00:19.49 | blast007 | it's not about cool vs lame, it's about good vs evil |
| 00:19.53 | a_monkey | yea |
| 00:19.59 | a_monkey | listen to blast007 |
| 00:20.11 | TD-Linux | I know! ~JeffM2501-------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
| 00:20.17 | TD-Linux | what will that do? |
| 00:20.22 | TD-Linux | hmmm |
| 00:20.43 | a_monkey | well, in the world of IRC, my definition is more accurate. :) |
| 00:20.52 | TD-Linux | is it possible to subtract karma? |
| 00:20.56 | a_monkey | yes |
| 00:20.59 | TD-Linux | ~a_monkey-- |
| 00:21.00 | TD-Linux | I see |
| 00:21.04 | a_monkey | yea |
| 00:21.04 | blast007 | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karma |
| 00:21.06 | a_monkey | like that |
| 00:21.10 | a_monkey | ~karma a_monkey |
| 00:21.10 | ibot | a_monkey has neutral karma |
| 00:21.17 | a_monkey | look what you did! |
| 00:21.17 | TD-Linux | that's not right! |
| 00:21.20 | a_monkey | i'm lame! ;) |
| 00:21.27 | TD-Linux | ~a_monkey---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
| 00:21.33 | TD-Linux | ~karma a_monkey |
| 00:21.33 | ibot | a_monkey has neutral karma |
| 00:21.35 | a_monkey | i don't think that'll work |
| 00:21.35 | blast007 | TD-Linux: please stop doing that |
| 00:21.37 | TD-Linux | awwww |
| 00:21.38 | TD-Linux | ok |
| 00:21.44 | TD-Linux | it's so fun! |
| 00:21.49 | a_monkey | yes it is |
| 00:21.55 | blast007 | there's #botpark and /msg :) |
| 00:22.01 | TD-Linux | ahhh |
| 00:22.26 | TD-Linux | what bot does ~karma? |
| 00:22.35 | a_monkey | ibot |
| 00:22.36 | blast007 | the one responding to you |
| 00:22.40 | TD-Linux | ok |
| 00:22.45 | a_monkey | lol |
| 00:23.52 | TD-Linux | I can't make karma go below 0 |
| 00:23.58 | TD-Linux | but yet I had -1 karma once |
| 00:24.09 | blast007 | can't do karma in /msg |
| 00:24.13 | TD-Linux | oh |
| 00:24.15 | blast007 | well, you can _change_ it |
| 00:24.19 | blast007 | can't*, bah |
| 00:25.12 | TD-Linux | I know! A plugin that goes Kablooie! every time someone dies! |
| 00:25.16 | TD-Linux | won't that be annoying! |
| 00:25.24 | TD-Linux | >:-) |
| 00:35.13 | TD-Linux | ~lart bzfs |
| 00:35.25 | TD-Linux | mwahaha |
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| 00:38.06 | TD-Linux | ~lart creeperz creepiness |
| 00:38.15 | TD-Linux | huh? |
| 00:38.20 | TD-Linux | that dosen't make sens |
| 00:38.33 | creeperz | YOU dont make any sence |
| 00:38.35 | TD-Linux | it didn't work like the options said it was supposed to |
| 00:38.40 | creeperz | you non sence maker |
| 00:38.55 | TD-Linux | it said that it was supposed to have arguments for reason |
| 00:38.57 | TD-Linux | I think |
| 00:39.05 | TD-Linux | of course, I don't make any sense either |
| 00:39.31 | jomojo | bloody noobs |
| 00:40.05 | TD-Linux | :) |
| 00:40.26 | jomojo | I had this guy who some how managed to get passwords to several different servers and was willing to trade them to become an admin on silvercat |
| 00:40.42 | blast007 | heh... |
| 00:40.54 | jomojo | it was a guy named batista.. |
| 00:41.00 | blast007 | seems like a real trustworty guy ;) |
| 00:41.09 | blast007 | trustworthy* |
| 00:41.17 | jomojo | his ip was 69.119.240.73 |
| 00:41.25 | jomojo | yeah he got a lifetime ban from me |
| 00:41.34 | jomojo | the moment i confirmed he gave me a real pass |
| 00:41.55 | jomojo | now i have to take the time and tell each server owner that their password has been violated |
| 00:42.07 | jomojo | i don't get why people don't shut off /password |
| 00:42.16 | jomojo | i did much more secure |
| 00:42.33 | blast007 | cuz it's easier |
| 00:42.42 | blast007 | they don't have to mess around with a groupdb |
| 00:42.57 | blast007 | or take the time to get a group on the forum |
| 00:43.10 | jomojo | global registration is the easiest these days |
| 00:43.17 | jomojo | and most secure in my opinion |
| 00:43.22 | blast007 | yeah |
| 00:44.12 | jomojo | if anyone sees element tell him his password for his server was one of the ones this guy says he has.. though elements server is down |
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| 01:00.26 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: trepan * bzflag/src/bzfs/commands.cxx: |
| 01:00.26 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: - change current CmdList to CmdHelp |
| 01:00.26 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: - add a new CmdList that prints a nicely formatted list |
| 01:00.26 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: - fix the "/lagstats" command |
| 01:11.40 | jomojo | anyone know where i can find the orignal babel map? |
| 01:11.48 | trepan | the /cmd? syntax is a bit weird, /? cmd seems more standard |
| 01:13.36 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: trepan * bzflag/src/bzfs/commands.cxx: typos and the such |
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| 01:30.33 | brlcad | ~dict beau |
| 01:30.43 | brlcad | heh |
| 01:34.20 | creeperz | ~more |
| 01:34.20 | ibot | somebody said more was Displays the contents of the named files, one screenful at a time. Syntax: more (file1) (file2) ...(fileN). Where file1 through fileN are the files to display. Example: more papers/history-final displays the file papers/history-final. |
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| 01:46.23 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: trepan * bzflag/ (4 files in 3 dirs): |
| 01:46.23 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: - improvements to the server list |
| 01:46.23 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: - added FontManager.setDarkness() (separate from setDimFactor) |
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| 01:47.40 | RPG_ | CVS compile error |
| 01:48.32 | RPG_ | line: |
| 01:48.32 | RPG_ | const float shotScale = std::min(1.0f, logf(server.ping.maxShots) / logf(20.0f)); |
| 01:48.32 | RPG_ | error(s): |
| 01:48.32 | RPG_ | \src\bzflag\ServerMenu.cxx(225) : error C2589: '(' : illegal token on right side of '::' |
| 01:48.32 | RPG_ | \src\bzflag\ServerMenu.cxx(225) : error C2059: syntax error : '::' |
| 01:48.47 | trepan | it's been fixed |
| 01:48.50 | RPG_ | ahh |
| 01:48.57 | RPG_ | how? |
| 01:49.01 | RPG_ | it looks good |
| 01:49.08 | trepan | jeff changed it to STD_MIN iirc |
| 01:49.39 | me1 | trepan, you said earlyer how to make oncap work? how do you makwe it work? |
| 01:49.40 | JeffM2501 | RPG_, you just have to wait |
| 01:49.43 | RPG_ | NNOOOOOO |
| 01:50.12 | trepan | me1: i don't make it work, don't care enough to play with it |
| 01:50.39 | me1 | you said earlyer how to make it work, YOU did |
| 01:50.50 | trepan | me1: you've already been told to use the plugin, figure it out |
| 01:50.55 | JeffM2501 | what dosn't work about it? |
| 01:51.16 | trepan | JeffM2501: that one should probably get a plugin->patch conversion |
| 01:51.26 | me1 | it says: event trigger type: oncap unknown |
| 01:51.33 | trepan | ie: make it a core map feature |
| 01:51.41 | JeffM2501 | the sw on cap? |
| 01:51.50 | trepan | ya, folks seem to be using it |
| 01:51.53 | me1 | nop, i'm trying to make a laser oncap |
| 01:52.03 | RPG_ | 7 Warnings, 0 Errors on BZFlag compile |
| 01:52.05 | RPG_ | want them? |
| 01:52.06 | JeffM2501 | yeah I made it a map feeature when I made it |
| 01:52.18 | JeffM2501 | trepan, it's not a plugin |
| 01:52.18 | trepan | but the plugin is required? |
| 01:52.20 | JeffM2501 | no |
| 01:52.22 | JeffM2501 | no plugin at all |
| 01:52.23 | RPG_ | k |
| 01:52.23 | trepan | ah, good to hear it |
| 01:52.25 | *** part/#bzflag RPG_ (n=G-bus@c-24-15-87-171.hsd1.il.comcast.net) |
| 01:52.35 | JeffM2501 | there just is also a plugin event |
| 01:52.41 | JeffM2501 | in case a plugin wants it |
| 01:52.55 | JeffM2501 | you can do "OnCap SW" on each base |
| 01:52.56 | JeffM2501 | OR |
| 01:53.16 | JeffM2501 | do the EventType OnCap item on a world weap |
| 01:53.30 | JeffM2501 | so you can make world weaps fire on the trigger |
| 01:53.58 | JeffM2501 | me1 all you have to do is define a lazer world weap and set it's trigger |
| 01:54.00 | JeffM2501 | check the man pages |
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| 01:54.24 | me1 | i did, iset the trigger to onCap but it didn't work |
| 01:55.30 | JeffM2501 | did you set the base? |
| 01:55.35 | JeffM2501 | well the team? |
| 01:55.43 | trepan | RPG_: that message only appears in DEBUG builds |
| 01:55.46 | JeffM2501 | RPG_, just get the new code |
| 01:55.48 | RPG_ | aah |
| 01:55.50 | RPG_ | i did |
| 01:55.58 | JeffM2501 | RPG_, then wait for it to update |
| 01:56.00 | RPG_ | trepan: in the list server, what's "M" mean? |
| 01:56.09 | trepan | it's been changed |
| 01:56.15 | me1 | i put eventteam -1 so it would fire on all caps |
| 01:56.16 | trepan | to * |
| 01:56.18 | JeffM2501 | RPG_, you have some old old code |
| 01:56.23 | RPG_ | i have anon CVS |
| 01:56.29 | RPG_ | up-to-hour |
| 01:56.31 | JeffM2501 | me1, I don't think that works like that |
| 01:56.37 | JeffM2501 | RPG_, like I said, old old code |
| 01:56.42 | RPG_ | lol |
| 01:56.49 | RPG_ | trepan: then what does * denote? |
| 01:56.54 | trepan | RPG_: figure it out... should take all of 3 seconds |
| 01:56.59 | RPG_ | ok |
| 01:57.06 | trepan | anymore, and I'll have to put you in the "slow" list |
| 01:57.17 | JeffM2501 | me1, you have to do one per team |
| 01:57.28 | RPG_ | trepan: gotcha |
| 01:57.39 | me1 | Where <TEAM NUMBER> is a team ID ( just like bases ). |
| 01:57.39 | me1 | A team number of -1 will mean all players. |
| 01:58.03 | JeffM2501 | yeah that was removed |
| 01:58.06 | me1 | oh |
| 01:58.33 | JeffM2501 | tho I probably should put it back in |
| 01:58.57 | me1 | i have to go, bye |
| 02:08.56 | meacan | finanlly! |
| 02:09.44 | Grumbler | heh |
| 02:12.07 | meacan | I was looking for a bug in the wrong place. Can take some time if you dont start looking in the proper files |
| 02:12.23 | RPG_ | two thumbs up on the list server coloring |
| 02:13.55 | meacan | yyoohoo :) 4 hours waste in the wrong files |
| 02:14.59 | meacan | I dont think that im official allowed to commit stuff, so can someone validate my correct and perhaps apply it |
| 02:15.20 | meacan | its a 2 bytes change, so it should be doable |
| 02:22.06 | brlcad | speak, man |
| 02:22.22 | brlcad | 2 bit 2 byte teaser |
| 02:22.23 | orchid | ~spell copywrite |
| 02:23.30 | meacan | brlcad: bzfs/commands.cxx line 3453 |
| 02:23.55 | meacan | brlcad: you need strlen(message)-1 > params[0].size(), otherwise you'll end up with wierd results in APIMessage |
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| 02:25.47 | meacan | brlcad: if you look at linje 3438 it uses std::string(message+1) (thereby stripping the slash). So params[0] is without a slash, and message is with slash. In the if at line 3453 it compares to see if the command got arguments, but it will always be true, because message still contain the prefixed slash, while parmas[0] does not |
| 02:26.47 | brlcad | got it |
| 02:27.00 | brlcad | relatively new code |
| 02:27.34 | meacan | i know, i bugged jeff the other day, because plugins didnt get the whole "message" string |
| 02:42.53 | JeffM2501 | is i still broken? |
| 02:43.03 | JeffM2501 | I rwwrote it |
| 02:43.32 | brlcad | just an off by one |
| 02:43.39 | brlcad | fixed |
| 02:43.41 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: brlcad * bzflag/src/bzfs/commands.cxx: strip the leading slash on comparison or it will be larger more often than it should (thx meacan) |
| 02:43.49 | RPG_ | jeffm2501: api feature request: query the server to ask if a player has a certain permission, such as BAN or SPAWN |
| 02:44.10 | JeffM2501 | RPG_, yeah a permision system is needed |
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| 02:59.45 | meacan | brlcad: btw, libirc, is that something you guys still plan to continue on? |
| 03:04.49 | JeffM2501 | if there is intrest I'd do more on it |
| 03:05.01 | JeffM2501 | it's basicly complete for clients |
| 03:08.42 | meacan | i had a quick peek, but stopped after having trouble compiling it (didnt have sdlnet and then TextUtils.h were missing - so i figured it might not be ready for use yet) |
| 03:09.14 | JeffM2501 | all that is built into it |
| 03:09.21 | JeffM2501 | you should not need any other code |
| 03:09.44 | JeffM2501 | it's probable that the nix make files just need updating |
| 03:09.55 | RPG_ | does bzfs send the player's final score to the client each time it changes, or does it just send wins,losses, and TK's? |
| 03:10.19 | JeffM2501 | it is suposed to send it when it changes |
| 03:10.29 | blast007 | RPG_: wins, losses, and tks |
| 03:10.31 | RPG_ | k |
| 03:10.35 | blast007 | score = wins - losses |
| 03:10.37 | JeffM2501 | those are the times it changes :) |
| 03:10.49 | JeffM2501 | blast007, the API can set the score and it forces a resend |
| 03:10.57 | RPG_ | that's what i'm working with |
| 03:11.03 | RPG_ | for plugin #2! |
| 03:11.04 | JeffM2501 | it dosn't work |
| 03:11.08 | RPG_ | inspired by a secretplace admin |
| 03:11.10 | RPG_ | it doesnt? |
| 03:11.14 | JeffM2501 | no |
| 03:11.27 | RPG_ | not one of the three _setScore functions? |
| 03:11.35 | blast007 | JeffM2501: it still doesn't send the score though.. |
| 03:11.54 | JeffM2501 | blast007, it sends the mesage, it just dosn't do it right |
| 03:12.04 | RPG_ | there goes my plugin |
| 03:12.17 | blast007 | RPG was asking if it sent the score, or if it send the wins/losses/tks |
| 03:12.33 | JeffM2501 | oh |
| 03:12.39 | JeffM2501 | yeah it's just wins/losses/tks |
| 03:12.48 | JeffM2501 | there is no "score" per player |
| 03:12.53 | RPG_ | then didn't you say the bz_setScore functions don't work? |
| 03:13.16 | JeffM2501 | yeah the don't work |
| 03:13.34 | JeffM2501 | it's in the bug list |
| 03:13.45 | blast007 | the client probably ignores score updates for itself |
| 03:13.50 | RPG_ | my pugin remembers a plyaer's score for 2 mintues after he leaves a server, then if he comes back within the 2 minutes, it gives him his old score back. Eliminates ameature rejoiners, and saves people who have jumpy connections |
| 03:14.05 | JeffM2501 | blast007, no it was redone in 2.0 to have the server hold the score |
| 03:14.10 | RPG_ | High KarateKitty on secretplace's idea |
| 03:14.10 | JeffM2501 | it's suposed to take score updates |
| 03:14.16 | blast007 | ah, ok |
| 03:14.32 | JeffM2501 | RPG_, you can probably save there last known position too |
| 03:14.39 | JeffM2501 | and respawn them where they left :) |
| 03:14.41 | RPG_ | lol |
| 03:14.42 | blast007 | hehe |
| 03:15.06 | JeffM2501 | because if you don't, then they will still reconnect too base jump |
| 03:15.21 | JeffM2501 | you'd actualy make base jumping a valid tactic |
| 03:15.25 | JeffM2501 | since you'd keep your score |
| 03:15.32 | RPG_ | ahhhh |
| 03:15.48 | RPG_ | i'll validate the team |
| 03:15.53 | RPG_ | make sure the player's on the same team as before |
| 03:15.59 | JeffM2501 | still |
| 03:16.11 | JeffM2501 | you'll make them be able to instanly jump back to base |
| 03:16.15 | JeffM2501 | by just reconecting |
| 03:16.25 | RPG_ | most servers ahve a rejoin time |
| 03:16.41 | JeffM2501 | RPG_, that is just a hack to fix the problem |
| 03:16.42 | blast007 | but 5 seconds is faster than driving back |
| 03:16.53 | JeffM2501 | you have the tools, do it right |
| 03:17.02 | JeffM2501 | what you want to do is stop people from rejoining right? |
| 03:17.21 | RPG_ | originally, it was meant to keep hte score of poepl who have bad connections and are dropped frequently |
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| 03:17.38 | RPG_ | then i thought of it as a bonus that it would stop many rejoiners |
| 03:17.39 | JeffM2501 | RPG_, you can still do that, and use it to stop the base jumpers |
| 03:17.56 | JeffM2501 | if you just do the score thing, they you add a new exploit for base jumpers |
| 03:18.01 | JeffM2501 | think of all the paths :) |
| 03:18.07 | RPG_ | that's what youre for :D |
| 03:18.17 | JeffM2501 | people will allways find ways to use your stuff that you won't think of |
| 03:18.22 | blast007 | that would actually be a cool thing to build into bzfs |
| 03:18.40 | RPG_ | blast007: want the code when im' done? |
| 03:18.46 | RPG_ | heck, want the code now? |
| 03:18.59 | blast007 | don't know if I'll have time to do anything with it |
| 03:19.04 | JeffM2501 | blast007, we've talked about it |
| 03:19.16 | RPG_ | its based off the RogueGenocide struct system |
| 03:20.37 | RPG_ | ~sleep SportChick |
| 03:20.37 | ibot | ACTION sends SportChick to bed without supper |
| 03:20.43 | RPG_ | awwwwwwww |
| 03:21.08 | JeffM2501 | struct system? |
| 03:21.18 | JeffM2501 | you'd want to use play history tracker man |
| 03:21.24 | JeffM2501 | it does the join and part stuff |
| 03:21.29 | JeffM2501 | and airspawn |
| 03:21.47 | RPG_ | i already got the base code down |
| 03:22.15 | RPG_ | the struct has: |
| 03:22.15 | RPG_ | playerid, callsign, lastupdatetime, wins, losses, tks, (soon to come: spawnpos) |
| 03:22.50 | SportChick | RPG_: I'm way too happy right now - we just reclaimed our spare room |
| 03:23.12 | RPG_ | i wish i had a spare room |
| 03:23.27 | RPG_ | i wish i had enough energy to be happy |
| 03:23.55 | RPG_ | it's all being translated into shoddily-written code |
| 03:24.31 | SportChick | jeffM2501 & rpg_: as far as a player coming back on the same team, what happens if the team has filled up between the time the player left/was booted/got disconnected & the time he rejoins? |
| 03:24.48 | JeffM2501 | same thing that happens now if they do that |
| 03:24.50 | RPG_ | he'll be rejected before the plugin cna work it's glory |
| 03:24.55 | SportChick | ah, ok |
| 03:25.01 | RPG_ | it's the plyaer's loss then |
| 03:25.12 | JeffM2501 | you don't really need to |
| 03:25.17 | JeffM2501 | they are just ways to mod the server |
| 03:25.19 | SportChick | at least, not to the extent they're used on bzflag |
| 03:25.24 | JeffM2501 | like a patch |
| 03:25.27 | SportChick | yep, I know that much from dinner :) |
| 03:25.31 | RPG_ | wikipedia's gotta have something on plugins |
| 03:25.52 | SportChick | it's the details that escape my comprehension/understanding/knowledge |
| 03:26.16 | a-delusion | sportchick is not the only one who doesnt understand plugins |
| 03:26.19 | RPG_ | lol |
| 03:26.28 | RPG_ | a-d: how's racetoseven working? |
| 03:26.36 | RPG_ | i havn't got any match reports lately |
| 03:26.37 | a-delusion | at least someday she may, unlike me |
| 03:26.38 | SportChick | as long as the devs understand... |
| 03:26.54 | a-delusion | idont know , im on mac remember |
| 03:27.02 | RPG_ | lol |
| 03:27.19 | JeffM2501 | learner/brlcad was working on it today |
| 03:27.22 | JeffM2501 | he got them to build |
| 03:27.35 | brlcad | some of them |
| 03:27.42 | brlcad | some didn't seem to have makefiles |
| 03:27.48 | JeffM2501 | they all should |
| 03:27.55 | SportChick | ~learner++ |
| 03:27.56 | brlcad | and some needed mild massaging |
| 03:27.57 | a-delusion | my only question today is what's the eta on mac plugin loader? 2 weeeks? 2 months? |
| 03:28.03 | a-delusion | btoday? |
| 03:28.05 | RPG_ | 2 years? |
| 03:28.06 | SportChick | ~brlcad++ |
| 03:28.10 | SportChick | ~Jeffm2501++ |
| 03:28.11 | brlcad | 2 weeks |
| 03:28.15 | JeffM2501 | a-delusion, before 2.0.4 |
| 03:28.16 | SportChick | ~rpg_++ |
| 03:28.17 | brlcad | anything can be done in 2 weeks ;) |
| 03:28.21 | RPG_ | horray! |
| 03:28.25 | JeffM2501 | I'd expect wihin the month |
| 03:28.42 | SportChick | ~karma rpg_ |
| 03:28.42 | ibot | rpg_ has karma of 1 |
| 03:28.43 | a-delusion | i used to date a girl named karma |
| 03:28.46 | brlcad | at least positive karma :) |
| 03:28.47 | SportChick | ~karma rpg |
| 03:28.47 | ibot | rpg has karma of 10 |
| 03:28.53 | RPG_ | SC: give it to RPG |
| 03:28.54 | SportChick | ~rpg++ |
| 03:28.59 | RPG_ | RPG_ is jst my crappy RIC nick |
| 03:29.01 | SportChick | already did, rpg |
| 03:29.06 | SportChick | ~rpg_-- |
| 03:29.10 | SportChick | there |
| 03:29.13 | RPG_ | thx |
| 03:29.13 | SportChick | fixed |
| 03:29.19 | SportChick | ~karma brlcad |
| 03:29.19 | ibot | brlcad has karma of 73 |
| 03:29.19 | brlcad | RPG_: why not go for a better irc nick that doesn't have a silly underscore ;) |
| 03:29.27 | RPG_ | because people wouldn't know it's me |
| 03:29.35 | brlcad | they'll learn soon enough |
| 03:29.37 | SportChick | ~karma learner |
| 03:29.37 | ibot | learner has karma of 79 |
| 03:29.49 | blast007 | or just do what I did...add a silly number ;) |
| 03:29.50 | SportChick | hrm - brlcad & learner are neck and neck |
| 03:29.58 | brlcad | learner is nicer than I am usually |
| 03:30.02 | SportChick | ~karma jeffm2501 |
| 03:30.02 | ibot | jeffm2501 has karma of 65 |
| 03:30.11 | SportChick | ~learner++ |
| 03:30.28 | SportChick | ~jeffm2501++ |
| 03:30.34 | SportChick | all work and no play makes brlcad... |
| 03:30.42 | brlcad | happy :) |
| 03:30.43 | SportChick | well, you know the drill |
| 03:30.59 | RPG_ | ~karma SportChick |
| 03:30.59 | ibot | sportchick has karma of 101 |
| 03:31.01 | RPG_ | gah |
| 03:31.03 | RPG_ | that's tons |
| 03:31.12 | RPG_ | your'e spilling over with karma |
| 03:31.18 | SportChick | RPG_: it's funny - I do nothing around here |
| 03:31.22 | RPG_ | lol |
| 03:31.40 | a-delusion | ......please let the appropriate people im willing to be a mac plugn tester |
| 03:31.40 | RPG_ | ~karma TimRiker |
| 03:31.40 | ibot | timriker has karma of -653 |
| 03:31.47 | RPG_ | ROFL |
| 03:34.36 | RPG_ | and the winner gets karma! |
| 03:34.37 | SportChick | (other than aribeth, that is) |
| 03:34.38 | SportChick | hehe |
| 03:34.48 | SportChick | no, the winner gets bragging rights |
| 03:34.52 | RPG_ | oh |
| 03:35.00 | SportChick | global bragging rights, of course |
| 03:35.06 | SportChick | www.guesswhichmovie.com |
| 03:35.07 | RPG_ | definately |
| 03:35.11 | RPG_ | who wants local bragging rights? |
| 03:35.14 | SportChick | hehe |
| 03:35.21 | SportChick | depends on how local "local" is |
| 03:35.25 | JeffM2501 | a-delusion, oh i"ll test it when he commits the chanes |
| 03:35.51 | a-delusion | yes i will definitely test |
| 03:36.07 | a-delusion | or whatever I can/ not much |
| 03:36.19 | JeffM2501 | and when I'm not playing CoH |
| 03:36.34 | RPG_ | ~CoH |
| 03:36.40 | RPG_ | ~define CoH |
| 03:36.46 | RPG_ | crap |
| 03:37.25 | blast007 | City of Heros? |
| 03:37.36 | RPG_ | beats me |
| 03:37.45 | brlcad | call of honor |
| 03:38.20 | JeffM2501 | blast is correct |
| 03:38.25 | brlcad | ahh |
| 03:38.39 | blast007 | yeah, think it's Call of Duty, not honor |
| 03:38.48 | RPG_ | it's medal of honor |
| 03:39.00 | RPG_ | call of honor was a BZFlag player now slated on the masterbanlist |
| 03:39.51 | blast007 | I like my games without a monthly fee ;) |
| 03:40.14 | brlcad | heh, it's a mix between medal of honor and call of duty ;) |
| 03:40.20 | blast007 | :) |
| 03:40.30 | a-delusion | says bzflag is by far the best free game available anywhere |
| 03:40.38 | RPG_ | totally |
| 03:40.42 | RPG_ | ~BZFlag++ |
| 03:40.45 | RPG_ | ~karma BZFlag |
| 03:40.45 | ibot | bzflag has karma of 2 |
| 03:41.09 | blast007 | I wouldn't say it's the 'best', but I certainly have fun playing it |
| 03:41.30 | a-delusion | best free |
| 03:41.40 | blast007 | I saw the word 'free' too |
| 03:41.44 | RPG_ | one of the only free |
| 03:41.51 | RPG_ | *only == few |
| 03:41.55 | learner | ouch |
| 03:41.59 | a-delusion | whats the others im missing |
| 03:42.02 | blast007 | there's plenty of free games |
| 03:42.07 | RPG_ | 3D |
| 03:42.08 | RPG_ | FPS |
| 03:42.29 | RPG_ | i've herad of Eclipse (some space-like game), and Armegetron (based off the movie Tron) |
| 03:42.33 | RPG_ | both on sourceforge |
| 03:43.29 | JeffM2501 | we are getting ready to do an 8 person terravolta respec mission :) |
| 03:43.32 | JeffM2501 | should be hella fun |
| 03:43.50 | blast007 | JeffM2501: my problem is that I wouldn't play the games enough to get my monthly fee's worth out of them |
| 03:43.53 | learner | heh, eclipse is not on sf and it's not a game :) |
| 03:43.57 | a-delusion | once again not macintosh, i feel so...,so... limited |
| 03:44.13 | RPG_ | hmm, must have gotten the name wrong |
| 03:44.46 | RPG_ | a-d: why'd you get a mac in the first place? |
| 03:45.16 | a-delusion | my brother works at CMU, IT director, I get used oes reallly cheap |
| 03:45.21 | RPG_ | oh |
| 03:45.35 | RPG_ | you could start a computer-resase business out of that |
| 03:45.52 | a-delusion | plus it's all i've ever used, since i quit using my commodore 64 |
| 03:46.33 | a-delusion | before that I had a vic-20 |
| 03:47.02 | RPG_ | heh |
| 03:47.47 | JeffM2501 | blast007, GuildWars |
| 03:47.49 | JeffM2501 | no fee |
| 03:47.51 | JeffM2501 | masive |
| 03:47.52 | JeffM2501 | online |
| 03:48.09 | a-delusion | nare they free? |
| 03:48.11 | blast007 | yeah, there's another one called PlaneShift |
| 03:48.23 | blast007 | and an online FPS called Gunz Online |
| 03:48.28 | blast007 | http://www.gunzonline.com/main/ -and- http://www.planeshift.it/ |
| 03:48.47 | RPG_ | and then there's good 'ol BZFlag |
| 03:49.11 | JeffM2501 | planeshift is the CS main test app isn't it? |
| 03:49.17 | a-delusion | gunz- no mac |
| 03:49.30 | blast007 | CS? |
| 03:49.43 | RPG_ | counterstrike |
| 03:49.44 | JeffM2501 | crystal space |
| 03:49.49 | blast007 | ah |
| 03:49.53 | JeffM2501 | a-delusion, not many games on the mac |
| 03:49.56 | JeffM2501 | cept WoW |
| 03:49.57 | blast007 | yeah, it uses Crystal Space |
| 03:50.31 | blast007 | planeshift has an OS X version |
| 03:50.42 | a-delusion | planeshift yes mac, downloading now. |
| 03:51.07 | blast007 | I haven't done much in the game yet, cuz it runs pretty slow on my box |
| 03:52.34 | blast007 | Gunz Online is really fun though |
| 03:53.07 | JeffM2501 | a-delusion, you'll be able to run more games on your next mac tho |
| 03:53.13 | RPG_ | hard drive space is really fun too :) |
| 03:53.15 | SportChick | this is HILARIOUS!! http://www.msxnet.org/humour/terror_alert |
| 03:53.21 | a-delusion | 270 megs compressed.... it says no sound on macs. |
| 03:53.48 | JeffM2501 | pety small |
| 03:53.50 | RPG_ | ROFL!!!! |
| 03:54.00 | RPG_ | i partitioned my hard drive real badly when i got it |
| 03:54.08 | RPG_ | only got 10GB for apps+windows |
| 03:54.13 | a-delusion | i'm saving for my first brand new mac in fifteen years, gonna wait for christmas |
| 03:54.30 | blast007 | RPG_: you can install apps onto other partitions :) |
| 03:54.38 | RPG_ | yes, but i don't feel lik eit |
| 03:54.43 | blast007 | heh |
| 03:54.45 | RPG_ | that's how late it is ;) |
| 03:54.51 | RPG_ | ~sleep RPG_ |
| 03:54.51 | ibot | ACTION sends RPG_ to bed without supper |
| 03:54.58 | RPG_ | ...but i ate supper 6 hours ago |
| 03:55.16 | a-delusion | no snack then |
| 03:57.16 | *** join/#bzflag BenUrban (n=benurban@68.50.155.230) |
| 03:57.42 | RPG_ | holy crap |
| 03:57.53 | RPG_ | SC that has got to be the biggest laugh i've gotten all year |
| 03:57.54 | RPG_ | i'm crying |
| 03:57.58 | RPG_ | ~SportChick++ |
| 03:58.01 | a-delusion | I'm a bit excited about intel chipsets on a mac, should be alot more compatible |
| 03:58.52 | blast007 | SportChick: hehe, just looked at that site :) quite funny indeed |
| 04:00.44 | a-delusion | yeah that is a good giggle |
| 04:00.45 | SportChick | RPG_: glad to make you laugh - we were rolling! |
| 04:01.03 | wegstar | http://pastebin.com/337132 |
| 04:01.07 | RPG_ | i would be if the rest of the family wasn't sleeping |
| 04:01.07 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: trepan * bzflag/src/common/AutoCompleter.cxx: added serverquery |
| 04:01.12 | wegstar | dammit wrong cahnnel |
| 04:03.00 | RPG_ | heh my first time with struct's and one error message is 6 lines long |
| 04:03.06 | RPG_ | ~6*3 |
| 04:03.06 | ibot | 18 |
| 04:03.11 | RPG_ | that'd be 18 lines |
| 04:03.20 | learner | mm.. higher math |
| 04:04.16 | BenUrban | here he is, brain the size of a planet... |
| 04:04.27 | BenUrban | and you have him doing simple arithmetic |
| 04:04.33 | BenUrban | :P |
| 04:04.35 | RPG_ | g:\Programs\Dev-Cpp\repisitories\bzflag\plugins\SAMPLE_PLUGIN\keepscore.cpp(72) : error C2475: 'std::_Tree<_Traits>::end' : forming a pointer-to-member requires explicit use of the address-of operator ('&') and a qualified name |
| 04:04.35 | RPG_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:04.35 | RPG_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:04.35 | RPG_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:04.35 | RPG_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:04.40 | RPG_ | thar she is |
| 04:04.49 | RPG_ | that's only 1 |
| 04:05.17 | BenUrban | ... |
| 04:05.22 | RPG_ | error |
| 04:05.28 | RPG_ | my stupid error |
| 04:05.34 | BenUrban | try putting a space in between the >> |
| 04:05.56 | RPG_ | ...and here's the line: |
| 04:05.56 | RPG_ | if(itr != playerList.end){ |
| 04:06.09 | learner | .end is wrong |
| 04:06.16 | learner | .end() maybe? |
| 04:06.26 | learner | at least it looks wierd to me |
| 04:06.28 | RPG_ | hah |
| 04:06.29 | RPG_ | yep |
| 04:06.30 | learner | who wrote that? :) |
| 04:06.46 | RPG_ | meself |
| 04:06.54 | RPG_ | i'm pretty bad at it |
| 04:06.55 | RPG_ | but i get by |
| 04:06.58 | RPG_ | and learn from my mistakes |
| 04:07.07 | learner | little by little |
| 04:08.10 | BenUrban | that's horribly obfuscated code |
| 04:09.04 | trepan | JeffM2501: your q3bsp file available to try? |
| 04:09.20 | BenUrban | i still say changing the >> to > > will help |
| 04:09.36 | RPG_ | ~define obfuscated |
| 04:09.54 | RPG_ | i don't have a >> |
| 04:10.04 | BenUrban | <std::pair<const std::string,pluginHandler::structPlayerList>>,false> |
| 04:10.14 | BenUrban | right near the end of that |
| 04:10.25 | RPG_ | yes, but thats not in my code |
| 04:10.28 | BenUrban | ... |
| 04:10.39 | RPG_ | i'm making my own plugin |
| 04:10.42 | BenUrban | .. |
| 04:10.43 | RPG_ | nobody's seen the code yet |
| 04:10.49 | wegstar | :) |
| 04:10.54 | BenUrban | i see |
| 04:11.02 | RPG_ | that's why the errors are so bad |
| 04:11.09 | RPG_ | no BZFlag dev could make errors like that |
| 04:11.17 | RPG_ | i got 880 compile errors yesterday |
| 04:11.34 | BenUrban | weren't you told to reinstall your compiler? |
| 04:11.38 | RPG_ | yes |
| 04:11.40 | RPG_ | and i did |
| 04:11.54 | BenUrban | and then you still got 880 errors? |
| 04:11.55 | RPG_ | then i found out i was building BZFS without the dependencies |
| 04:11.58 | BenUrban | haha |
| 04:12.10 | RPG_ | but reinstelaling the ocmpiler fixed some MAJOR bugs i was having with it |
| 04:12.25 | RPG_ | i couldn't see the property pages for everything, the form designer didn't work, it'd crash like satan |
| 04:12.32 | RPG_ | all fixed now :D |
| 04:12.55 | BenUrban | heh |
| 04:13.31 | RPG_ | go ahead! |
| 04:13.32 | BenUrban | http://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=158646&cid=13291448 |
| 04:14.59 | wegstar | ;) |
| 04:15.06 | RPG_ | heh you can be ravagingly mean |
| 04:15.11 | BenUrban | he had it coming |
| 04:15.13 | BenUrban | :) |
| 04:15.14 | RPG_ | ~BenUrban++ |
| 04:15.26 | RPG_ | "thousands of dollars!" |
| 04:15.29 | BenUrban | hehe |
| 04:15.41 | RPG_ | if it refomatted his linux partition it'd be "maybe a buck!" |
| 04:15.46 | BenUrban | heh |
| 04:16.03 | RPG_ | first one to spot the error gets karma: |
| 04:16.03 | RPG_ | structPlayerList&record = playerList.find(((bz_PlayerJoinPartEventData*)eventData)->callsign.c_str()); |
| 04:16.06 | BenUrban | if it were a linux partition he wouldn't have lost it |
| 04:16.20 | BenUrban | because he would hvae known stop it from formatting it |
| 04:17.23 | RPG_ | got it to work |
| 04:17.24 | RPG_ | nmv |
| 04:17.29 | RPG_ | put ->second at the end |
| 04:26.48 | RPG_ | night all |
| 04:26.57 | RPG_ | SC: by now, i have told 7 people about that link |
| 04:27.05 | *** part/#bzflag RPG_ (n=G-bus@c-24-15-87-171.hsd1.il.comcast.net) |
| 04:27.26 | a-delusion | thr funny one? i told three |
| 04:27.56 | a-delusion | me too |
| 04:46.00 | *** join/#bzflag kyelewis` (n=kyelewis@203.46.64.98) |
| 05:30.07 | *** join/#bzflag BinarySpike (n=BinarySp@206-113-020-023.plateautel.net) |
| 05:30.11 | BinarySpike | Hiya everybody |
| 05:30.15 | blast007 | hello |
| 05:30.36 | BinarySpike | Can somebody answer a modding question? |
| 05:31.04 | blast007 | maybe, depends what the question is ;) |
| 05:31.08 | BinarySpike | k |
| 05:31.22 | BinarySpike | Can I put ServerPlayer in the second argument of void playerKilled(int victimIndex, int killerIndex, int reason, int16_t shotIndex, const FlagType* flagType, int phydrv); |
| 05:31.58 | blast007 | that should work just fine |
| 05:32.04 | BinarySpike | Ok |
| 05:32.12 | blast007 | mainly cuz that's how world weapons work |
| 05:32.18 | BinarySpike | Ah cool |
| 05:32.41 | BinarySpike | Well, after I re-compiled my 2.0.2 OnCapSW into my server I added a /allkill command |
| 05:33.11 | BinarySpike | It acts like a mega-geno killing everybody and giving you a ton of points (and tk's) |
| 05:33.20 | BinarySpike | So I need to fix the points/tk's part |
| 05:33.35 | blast007 | ah :) |
| 05:33.51 | blast007 | the /kill command uses the ServerPlayer too |
| 05:33.59 | BinarySpike | Doh! |
| 05:34.01 | blast007 | playerKilled(i, ServerPlayer, 0, -1, Flags::Null, -1); |
| 05:34.04 | BinarySpike | I should have looked at it... |
| 05:34.09 | blast007 | hehe |
| 05:37.51 | BinarySpike | here's some code from my /allkill command... is this a correct sendMessage? |
| 05:37.57 | BinarySpike | int t = playerData->getIndex(); |
| 05:38.05 | BinarySpike | sendMessage(ServerPlayer, AllPlayers, "Global kill by: " + t); |
| 05:39.12 | Pimpi | no |
| 05:39.48 | blast007 | the + won't work |
| 05:40.15 | BinarySpike | here's the code I got it out of. |
| 05:40.21 | BinarySpike | (out of handleSayCmd) |
| 05:40.22 | BinarySpike | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:41.19 | blast007 | you need to use TextUtils::format to get the number in the one |
| 05:41.26 | Pimpi | yeah, but thats something different, should be like this |
| 05:41.28 | Pimpi | : |
| 05:42.27 | BinarySpike | should be like ":" ? |
| 05:42.44 | Pimpi | snprintf(kickmessage, MessageLen, "Global kill by: %s", playerData->player.getCallSign()); |
| 05:42.44 | Pimpi | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:42.57 | BinarySpike | Ok, cool |
| 05:43.03 | BinarySpike | I've seen teh snprintf before |
| 05:43.36 | BinarySpike | and kickmessage is of what type? |
| 05:44.29 | Pimpi | you can also use TextUtils::format as blast007 suggested, you'll find examples of tht in the implementation of /countdown |
| 05:44.46 | Pimpi | kickmessage is : |
| 05:44.49 | Pimpi | char kickmessage[MessageLen]; |
| 05:44.52 | BinarySpike | Ok, but do I need to allocate kickmessage or is it a global variable? |
| 05:45.14 | Pimpi | it's a local one |
| 05:45.25 | BinarySpike | char killmessage[MessageLen]; |
| 05:45.26 | BinarySpike | ? |
| 05:45.36 | blast007 | yeah, exactly like that |
| 05:45.39 | BinarySpike | Ok |
| 05:45.41 | BinarySpike | Thanks! |
| 05:45.57 | Pimpi | it's a C style string |
| 05:46.44 | BinarySpike | Yeah |
| 05:46.49 | BinarySpike | It's not pascal style |
| 05:46.56 | BinarySpike | One last question... |
| 05:47.02 | BinarySpike | for (int i = 0; i < curMaxPlayers; i++) { |
| 05:47.02 | BinarySpike | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:47.04 | BinarySpike | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:47.19 | BinarySpike | I wanna make sure that if it's /allkill safe |
| 05:47.32 | BinarySpike | then the user that used the command doesn't die |
| 05:47.45 | BinarySpike | So |
| 05:47.57 | BinarySpike | How do I find out if there is "safe" in the /allkill ? |
| 05:48.03 | blast007 | compare the player id's |
| 05:48.16 | BinarySpike | I know that |
| 05:48.34 | blast007 | if 't' is the one who called it, do: if (t != i) playerKilled(blabla); |
| 05:48.36 | BinarySpike | I know when /allkill is called... just not what and how to get the data that is passed with it. |
| 05:49.17 | BinarySpike | if (t == i && /*safe is defined*/) |
| 05:49.18 | BinarySpike | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:50.12 | blast007 | not sure what you are meaning by safe |
| 05:50.14 | Pimpi | you must have t in that case though |
| 05:50.15 | BinarySpike | would I use strncasecmp() ? |
| 05:50.21 | BinarySpike | like /flag reset |
| 05:50.24 | BinarySpike | and /flag up |
| 05:50.31 | BinarySpike | there both the same command |
| 05:50.35 | BinarySpike | but do different things |
| 05:50.36 | blast007 | oh, "/allkill safe" |
| 05:50.44 | blast007 | like that? |
| 05:50.45 | BinarySpike | yes... |
| 05:50.58 | blast007 | yeah, look at how /flag does it |
| 05:51.05 | Pimpi | use Textutils::tokenize |
| 05:51.05 | BinarySpike | strncasecmp |
| 05:51.15 | Pimpi | check for number of tokens |
| 05:51.55 | Pimpi | check if the 2nd token (if exists) is == 'safe' |
| 05:52.14 | BinarySpike | Ok |
| 05:52.24 | BinarySpike | But... How would I tokenize it? |
| 05:52.31 | BinarySpike | And how would I check against it? |
| 05:53.02 | BinarySpike | I've only made the OnCapSW mod... I never have done anything else... (and the OnCapSW mod was hardcoded into captureFlag() ) |
| 05:53.03 | Pimpi | you'll find several exampled in commands.cxx of this |
| 05:53.17 | blast007 | the kill command, for example, use tokenize |
| 05:53.23 | blast007 | uses* |
| 05:53.29 | BinarySpike | Heh, I'm looking in BanCmd |
| 05:53.55 | Pimpi | Textutils::tokenize is pretty good explained in TextUtils.h |
| 05:54.17 | Pimpi | which _should_ be in include |
| 05:54.36 | Pimpi | not sure though |
| 05:54.40 | Pimpi | need to run |
| 05:54.54 | Pimpi | og, BinarySpike: one more thing |
| 05:55.06 | Pimpi | for (int i = 0; i < curMaxPlayers; i++) { |
| 05:55.13 | Pimpi | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:55.19 | Pimpi | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:55.31 | BinarySpike | That's what I have... |
| 05:55.57 | Pimpi | you want to make sure that a player with player slot i exists |
| 05:56.13 | Pimpi | i think playerKilled(...) check for it |
| 05:57.02 | Pimpi | but generally you should make sure it's at least checked somewhere before it's uses |
| 05:57.09 | Pimpi | used |
| 05:57.15 | Pimpi | bbl |
| 05:57.19 | BinarySpike | Ok |
| 05:57.21 | BinarySpike | Bye |
| 05:57.53 | BinarySpike | I'm not gona tokenize just yet... the /flag command seems much easer |
| 05:59.03 | blast007 | yeah, for one word, tokenize is overkill |
| 06:00.21 | *** join/#bzflag BinarySpike (n=BinarySp@206-113-020-023.plateautel.net) |
| 06:00.26 | BinarySpike | stupid shareware client |
| 06:00.31 | blast007 | heh |
| 06:01.13 | blast007 | only let's you be on 30 minutes? |
| 06:01.20 | BinarySpike | yeah... |
| 06:01.28 | blast007 | you should get X-Chat |
| 06:01.37 | BinarySpike | That's 10.3 and above |
| 06:01.41 | blast007 | ah |
| 06:02.54 | BinarySpike | Ok, will this work? |
| 06:02.55 | BinarySpike | if (t == i && strncasecmp(message + 9, "safe", 4)) |
| 06:03.06 | BinarySpike | or is it: |
| 06:03.15 | BinarySpike | if (t == i && strncasecmp(message + 9, "safe", 4) == 0) |
| 06:04.18 | blast007 | second one |
| 06:04.23 | BinarySpike | ok, thx |
| 06:04.29 | blast007 | if you're doing the contine |
| 06:04.32 | blast007 | continue* |
| 06:04.35 | BinarySpike | yes |
| 06:04.53 | BinarySpike | That way it skips the user |
| 06:06.28 | BinarySpike | compiling now. |
| 06:06.40 | BinarySpike | heh |
| 06:06.47 | BinarySpike | broke on the kickmessage (named it killmessage) |
| 06:10.15 | BinarySpike | aaaahhhhhhhh |
| 06:10.44 | BinarySpike | commands.cxx line 342... what is the function name? (must have accedently deleted name) |
| 06:11.03 | BinarySpike | nvm |
| 06:11.11 | BinarySpike | Found I have an extra copy of 2.0.2 |
| 06:11.57 | BinarySpike | server up |
| 06:12.05 | BinarySpike | ibzedit.servegame.com |
| 06:12.08 | BinarySpike | port 5154 |
| 06:17.07 | BinarySpike | unknown command [allkill safe] |
| 06:24.01 | BinarySpike | brb, I think I got it work'n now... |
| 06:24.02 | *** part/#bzflag BinarySpike (n=BinarySp@206-113-020-023.plateautel.net) |
| 06:35.57 | wegstar | nite |
| 06:39.02 | *** part/#bzflag JeffM2501 (n=jeffm@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/JeffM2501) |
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| 07:06.57 | Pimpi | argh, tokenize isn't overkill gere |
| 07:07.00 | Pimpi | here |
| 07:12.58 | Pimpi | wow, sf is fast today |
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| 07:57.53 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: trepan * bzflag/src/mediafile/MediaFile.cxx: |
| 07:57.53 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: - loadTexture() can now use cached textures from their URL names. |
| 07:57.53 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: (ex: BZDB _rainTexture and _rainPuddleTexture). These textures |
| 07:57.53 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: can be signalled for downloading using unbound materials. |
| 07:57.53 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: Let it rain cats and dogs... |
| 08:18.55 | *** join/#bzflag _Manu_ (n=Julio@98.Red-80-36-59.pooles.rima-tde.net) |
| 08:27.08 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: trepan * bzflag/src/mediafile/MediaFile.cxx: hide that which should be hidden |
| 08:49.40 | *** join/#bzflag Tupone (n=Tupone@host-84-222-136-224.cust-adsl.tiscali.it) |
| 08:49.40 | *** mode/#bzflag [+v Tupone] by ChanServ |
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| 10:13.15 | *** join/#bzflag menotume (n=meno@pdpc/supporter/active/menotume) |
| 10:13.58 | Tupone | hi menotume |
| 10:19.23 | menotume | good morning |
| 10:19.43 | Tupone | morning :) |
| 10:37.55 | *** join/#bzflag autocosm2 (n=183ddb61@webchat.bzflag.bz) |
| 10:38.01 | autocosm2 | hi |
| 10:38.14 | autocosm2 | !weather 03801 |
| 10:38.15 | TheLastSpartan | autocosm2: The current temperature in Portsmouth, New Hampshire (03801) is 66°F (5:55 AM EDT on August 15, 2005). Conditions: Light Rain Mist. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 64°F. Pressure: 30.05 in (1018 hPa). Visibility: 3.0 miles (4.8 kilometers). UV: 0 out of 16 |
| 10:38.34 | autocosm2 | dang. i have golf camp..... |
| 10:48.06 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: atupone * bzflag/src/bzfs/ (BanCommands.cxx Makefile.am commands.cxx): Moving Ban related command (including kick, kill and mute) to BanCommands.cxx |
| 11:03.02 | Pimpi | Tupone: why that? |
| 11:03.18 | Tupone | File is a way too big :( |
| 11:03.26 | Tupone | command.cxx was 3500 lines |
| 11:04.04 | Tupone | what is your suggestion ? |
| 11:04.32 | Pimpi | not sure, are you going to split it up into more fles? |
| 11:04.50 | Pimpi | *even more |
| 11:05.04 | Tupone | well, not now, I'm going to eat. |
| 11:05.32 | Pimpi | i liked it to cave the mommands stuff concentrated in one file |
| 11:05.55 | Pimpi | man, i never learn to type with this keyboard... |
| 11:06.44 | Tupone | some commands apply better to some classes. Not what I did. But you could think about some object handling commands too |
| 11:07.25 | Tupone | like lagInfo able to be invoked by lagStat command |
| 11:07.33 | Tupone | Have to think more about it |
| 11:09.24 | Tupone | but I'll think about it tomorrow |
| 11:09.26 | Tupone | cu |
| 11:09.28 | *** part/#bzflag Tupone (n=Tupone@pdpc/supporter/active/Tupone) |
| 11:22.14 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: trepan * bzflag/src/bzfs/ (WorldGenerators.cxx WorldGenerators.h bzfs.cxx Makefile.am): move defineTeamWorld() and defineRandomWorld() into a new file |
| 11:34.54 | *** join/#bzflag Birdie (n=birdie@d54C34DE9.access.telenet.be) |
| 11:38.56 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: pimpinella * bzflag/include/bzfsAPI.h: add bz_eLastEvent to bz_eEventType. Maybe we want to know the number of available perms. |
| 11:39.22 | Pimpi | events, not perms of course |
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| 12:05.20 | *** join/#bzflag CBGiMac (n=matthew@cpc4-stme1-5-1-cust161.cdif.cable.ntl.com) |
| 12:06.04 | CBGiMac | The blast router has packed up, so this is CBG on the iMac. |
| 12:06.54 | CBG | I'm trying to get the latest cvs of bzflag, but I don't have the "cvs" thing on this machine. |
| 12:07.40 | CBG | Where can I get it? :( |
| 12:08.14 | trepan | you could have someone else get it, zip it, and make it available |
| 12:08.46 | CBG | I mean the app thingy-majig called "cvs"... |
| 12:09.06 | CBG | right now if I try to log onto bzflag cvs it says: tcsh: cvs: Command not found. |
| 12:09.07 | trepan | iMac doesn't have a web browser? weird... |
| 12:09.20 | CBG | eh? |
| 12:11.20 | CBG | look, when you download the latest bzflag cvs version, you have to log into the sourceforge cvs using: |
| 12:11.23 | CBG | cvs -d:pserver:anonymous@cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/bzflag login |
| 12:11.46 | CBG | which SEEMS to be running some kind of app/executable thing called "cvs" |
| 12:11.55 | CBG | which I dont seem to have on this machine... |
| 12:12.20 | trepan | which you could find for yourself using a web browser |
| 12:14.52 | CBG | Would XCode contain the cvs thing? |
| 12:17.00 | trepan | google it... very complicated... 2 keywords |
| 12:17.06 | CBG | I am... |
| 12:17.15 | trepan | it's the first listing |
| 12:17.46 | CBG | I assume it comes with xcode |
| 12:17.58 | CBG | but I can only find an xcode download for tiger. |
| 12:26.56 | CBG | had to sign up as a developer... found it now... thanks trepan |
| 12:45.02 | BenUrban | yes it comes with xcode |
| 12:45.17 | BenUrban | and you have to sign up for adc to get that |
| 12:46.00 | BenUrban | btw, without xcode you wouldn't have any use for the cvs version anyway |
| 12:46.10 | BenUrban | since xcode is where you get gcc |
| 12:46.27 | CBG | Benurban: Ok, thanks... is downloading now. |
| 12:47.09 | *** join/#bzflag Electric1lf (n=david@tor/session/x-86a018940acb723e) |
| 12:47.12 | BenUrban | after you run those two cvs commands, you get a folder (probably called bzflag) |
| 12:47.29 | CBG | BenUrban: yeah, I have done this before... |
| 12:47.29 | BenUrban | inside that somewhere should be a .xcode or .pbproj file |
| 12:47.33 | BenUrban | ah |
| 12:47.34 | BenUrban | ok |
| 12:47.39 | CBG | (On my iBook which must have XCode) |
| 12:47.59 | BenUrban | you can check by looking for /Developer |
| 12:48.26 | BenUrban | if /Developer exists, that means it has xcode or project builder |
| 12:48.32 | BenUrban | depending on the os version |
| 12:48.46 | CBG | mac HD/ Developer? |
| 12:48.58 | BenUrban | yeah |
| 12:50.17 | CBG | not there. :) |
| 12:50.31 | BenUrban | on the ibook? |
| 12:50.54 | CBG | on the iMac... |
| 12:51.03 | CBG | is on the book. |
| 12:51.04 | BenUrban | ah |
| 12:51.18 | BenUrban | well it will show p when you install scode |
| 12:51.20 | BenUrban | *up |
| 12:51.31 | CBG | okies. |
| 12:51.34 | CBG | thanks ben. |
| 12:51.42 | CBG | g2g whatch a movie and have lunch |
| 12:51.46 | BenUrban | yw |
| 12:53.16 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: trepan * bzflag/src/bzfs/commands.cxx: better /? formatting |
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| 13:30.45 | ToughShooter | Hmm, with _tankSpeed 1000 I can drive through all buildings etc but physdrv's death property still works :/ |
| 13:37.49 | Grumbler | so is the bug, that tankspeed 1000 allows you to drive through buildings, or is the bug that the physdrv death property still works, or is it both. |
| 13:37.57 | menotume | yes |
| 13:38.09 | Grumbler | heh |
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| 13:39.49 | Grumbler | whoa, cvs is fast |
| 13:39.52 | ToughShooter | driving through buildings I suppose |
| 13:42.02 | *** join/#bzflag TD-Linux (n=TD-Linux@24-159-197-101.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com) |
| 13:43.41 | TD-Linux | I just read a C++ OOP book. I'm now going to go out and write 10,000 plugins and overload everything to death. I'm going to write a bunch of functions and protect all my variables in classes. I need more pixie stix. |
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| 14:11.38 | TD-Linux | I wrote my first plugin! |
| 14:12.01 | TD-Linux | whenever someone dies, the server says 'Kablooie!' |
| 14:12.06 | ruskie | eeeee |
| 14:12.08 | ruskie | sweet |
| 14:12.51 | TD-Linux | hmmm... odd |
| 14:12.53 | TD-Linux | it dosen't work |
| 14:12.54 | ruskie | I'd to the following: on cap do "Something from some random list of strings" as a message and on die so "Somethingelse from a diff list of messages" |
| 14:13.11 | TD-Linux | that would be easy |
| 14:13.15 | TD-Linux | let me get this working first |
| 14:13.22 | TD-Linux | it isn't working :( |
| 14:14.32 | TD-Linux | it works! |
| 14:14.49 | TD-Linux | it could be irritating at a big server where people are constantly dying |
| 14:14.57 | TD-Linux | but that's the point :P |
| 14:16.12 | ToughShooter | if it will ever work with the mac I'll do a python plugin that connects to a haskell server which will send the commands |
| 14:17.07 | ToughShooter | that way it will be possible to write plugins in haskell! :D |
| 14:17.18 | TD-Linux | C++ plugins are easy |
| 14:17.26 | TD-Linux | want me to copy and paste my Kablooie plugin? |
| 14:17.49 | TD-Linux | a bit of code is copied from shockwaveDeath |
| 14:18.23 | ToughShooter | it would not work for me yet and I was talking about some sort of haskell support |
| 14:19.22 | Pimpi | ack |
| 14:21.37 | TD-Linux | this is fun |
| 14:21.49 | TD-Linux | my plugin says Kablooie! |
| 14:21.55 | TD-Linux | with 8 bots, it's really fun |
| 14:22.03 | Pimpi | TD-Linux: that die message thing could be nice. the strings could be read from a separate file and used separately |
| 14:22.12 | TD-Linux | yes, I know |
| 14:22.14 | TD-Linux | I'm working on it |
| 14:22.26 | TD-Linux | I'm new to C++ |
| 14:22.29 | TD-Linux | go easy on me |
| 14:22.57 | TD-Linux | I wonder how you send messages to one team only? |
| 14:23.06 | ToughShooter | I could port my proof engine that way to bzfs. Mathematical computations inside BZFlag, that's the way to go for me ;) |
| 14:23.16 | TD-Linux | BZ_RED_CHANNEL? |
| 14:23.16 | Pimpi | read the API doc ;) |
| 14:23.22 | TD-Linux | it dosen't say how |
| 14:25.56 | TD-Linux | Does anyone know how to send a message to a certain team in a plugin? |
| 14:26.14 | Pimpi | just looking for it |
| 14:26.23 | meacan | I belive that BZ_RED_TEAM as to in bz_sendTextMessage should work |
| 14:26.51 | TD-Linux | ok |
| 14:27.34 | TD-Linux | how do you make a random number in C++? |
| 14:27.40 | TD-Linux | rnd()? |
| 14:27.50 | TD-Linux | do I need to #include? |
| 14:29.23 | TD-Linux | for now, I'll work on one without random messages |
| 14:30.24 | meacan | If you include common.h from bzflag, you can use bzfrand() |
| 14:30.43 | Pimpi | i don't think sending to BZ_RED_TEAM will work |
| 14:30.57 | TD-Linux | ok, I'll send to whatever value I get from the cap event thingy |
| 14:31.13 | TD-Linux | do I need arguments for bzfrand()? |
| 14:31.24 | TD-Linux | or just aVar = bzfrand(); ? |
| 14:31.34 | Pimpi | look for it |
| 14:31.37 | TD-Linux | k |
| 14:32.06 | Pimpi | in any case you don't just need a var, but a var of the correct type |
| 14:32.49 | meacan | Pimpi: i admit, i didnt check :) |
| 14:33.59 | *** join/#bzflag a-delusion (n=8d9e6263@webchat.bzflag.bz) |
| 14:34.22 | a-delusion | what size packets does bzflag prefer? |
| 14:34.36 | Pimpi | what size? |
| 14:34.51 | a-delusion | packets 40 bytes? 80? |
| 14:35.15 | Pimpi | leave it up to the underlying protocol |
| 14:35.30 | a-delusion | variable ? |
| 14:36.33 | Pimpi | the largest packages in normal gameplay are usually MsgMessage with 133 Bytes payload |
| 14:36.40 | Pimpi | iirc |
| 14:37.07 | a-delusion | so it is variable. |
| 14:37.08 | Pimpi | downloading worlddatabase will surely be more |
| 14:37.13 | Pimpi | yep |
| 14:37.25 | a-delusion | ok thanks |
| 14:41.02 | Grumbler | thats just an odd question |
| 14:42.13 | trepan | 1000 monkeys ... |
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| 14:51.41 | Pimpi | TD-Linux: sending your message to (250 - BZ_RED_TEAM) might work |
| 14:52.24 | Pimpi | same for other teams, deduct bz_<team>_TEAM from 250 |
| 14:53.11 | TD-Linux | ok |
| 14:53.20 | TD-Linux | I need help now |
| 14:53.23 | TD-Linux | againa |
| 14:53.30 | TD-Linux | copy and pasting plugin: |
| 14:53.44 | TD-Linux | / capComments.cpp : Defines the entry point for the DLL application. |
| 14:53.45 | TD-Linux | / |
| 14:53.45 | TD-Linux | #include "bzfsAPI.h" |
| 14:53.45 | TD-Linux | BZ_GET_PLUGIN_VERSION |
| 14:53.45 | TD-Linux | /class to hold callback |
| 14:53.45 | TD-Linux | class CapHandler : public bz_EventHandler |
| 14:53.47 | TD-Linux | { |
| 14:53.49 | TD-Linux | public: |
| 14:53.51 | Pimpi | stop it |
| 14:53.51 | TD-Linux | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:53.53 | TD-Linux | }; |
| 14:53.54 | Pimpi | stop it |
| 14:53.55 | TD-Linux | CapHandler capHandler; |
| 14:53.56 | Pimpi | stop it |
| 14:53.57 | TD-Linux | BZF_PLUGIN_CALL int bz_Load ( const char* commandLine ) |
| 14:53.59 | TD-Linux | { |
| 14:54.01 | TD-Linux | bz_debugMessage(4,"capComments plugin loaded"); |
| 14:54.03 | TD-Linux | bz_registerEvent(bz_eCaptureEvent,&capHandler); |
| 14:54.06 | Pimpi | just stop it |
| 14:54.07 | TD-Linux | return 0; |
| 14:54.09 | TD-Linux | } |
| 14:54.11 | TD-Linux | BZF_PLUGIN_CALL int bz_Unload ( void ) |
| 14:54.13 | TD-Linux | { |
| 14:54.15 | Birdie | kick him.. |
| 14:54.15 | TD-Linux | bz_debugMessage(4,"capComments plugin unloaded"); |
| 14:54.17 | TD-Linux | bz_removeEvent(bz_eCaptureEvent,&capHandler); |
| 14:54.18 | menotume | stop pasting !!!! |
| 14:54.19 | TD-Linux | return 0; |
| 14:54.21 | TD-Linux | } |
| 14:54.23 | TD-Linux | void CapHandler::capComment ( bz_EventData *eventData ) |
| 14:54.25 | TD-Linux | { |
| 14:54.27 | TD-Linux | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:54.31 | TD-Linux | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:54.33 | TD-Linux | bz_CTFCaptureEventData *ctfData = (bz_CTFCaptureEventData*)eventData; |
| 14:54.35 | Birdie | sniff |
| 14:54.37 | TD-Linux | } |
| 14:54.39 | TD-Linux | ok |
| 14:54.41 | TD-Linux | I did |
| 14:54.43 | TD-Linux | stop what? |
| 14:54.45 | *** part/#bzflag TD-Linux (n=TD-Linux@24-159-197-101.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com) |
| 14:55.00 | Birdie | there should be an autokick for that |
| 14:55.02 | *** join/#bzflag TD-Linux (n=TD-Linux@24-159-197-101.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com) |
| 14:55.05 | TD-Linux | is it better now? |
| 14:55.13 | TD-Linux | It must copy and paste slow... |
| 14:55.27 | menotume | DON'T PASTE MORE THAN 3 LINES IN CHANNEL |
| 14:55.27 | TD-Linux | it took .05 of a second to make that appear on my screen |
| 14:55.30 | menotume | oops |
| 14:55.34 | TD-Linux | ok |
| 14:55.35 | Pimpi | don't past things larger than 5 lines here |
| 14:55.37 | TD-Linux | ok |
| 14:55.48 | Pimpi | ~pastebin |
| 14:55.48 | ibot | methinks pastebin is a place to paste your stuff without flooding the channel - try http://pastebin.ca |
| 14:55.53 | Grumbler | menotume, its too early in the morning for yelling :) |
| 14:55.54 | Pimpi | use that |
| 14:56.06 | TD-Linux | well, I have a problem |
| 14:56.08 | menotume | sry for yelling (caps lock) |
| 14:56.17 | menotume | SORRY ! |
| 14:56.23 | TD-Linux | :) |
| 14:57.08 | Grumbler | heh |
| 14:57.16 | Pimpi | TD-Linux: what i told you (250 - team) doesn't work for observers, rabbits and hunters |
| 14:57.23 | TD-Linux | ok |
| 14:57.50 | TD-Linux | can I paste 5 lines? |
| 14:58.00 | TD-Linux | just the error |
| 14:58.08 | Pimpi | observer would be 245, rabbit 244 |
| 14:58.11 | TD-Linux | ok |
| 14:58.18 | Pimpi | use pastebin pls |
| 14:58.23 | TD-Linux | it' |
| 14:58.26 | TD-Linux | it's short |
| 14:58.35 | Pimpi | fire off then |
| 14:58.37 | TD-Linux | capComments.cpp:15: error: cannot declare variable `capHandler' to be of type `CapHandler' |
| 14:58.37 | TD-Linux | capComments.cpp:15: error: because the following virtual functions are abstract: |
| 14:58.37 | TD-Linux | ../../include/bzfsAPI.h:596: error: virtual void bz_EventHandler::process(bz_EventData*) |
| 14:58.37 | TD-Linux | capComments.cpp: In member function `virtual void CapHandler::capComment(bz_EventData*)': |
| 14:58.37 | TD-Linux | capComments.cpp:33: error: expected `(' before "eventData" |
| 14:59.00 | TD-Linux | get it all? |
| 14:59.29 | TD-Linux | that's my error, I can't find what the problem is |
| 14:59.52 | TD-Linux | I don't even know what it means |
| 15:00.54 | TD-Linux | hello? |
| 15:01.16 | Pimpi | pastebin your plugin pls |
| 15:01.19 | TD-Linux | ok |
| 15:02.55 | TD-Linux | http://pastebin.ca/20064 |
| 15:04.53 | menotume | well, in line 33, change ) to ; |
| 15:05.07 | menotume | oops, make that: add a ( |
| 15:05.08 | Pimpi | you don't have process, no? |
| 15:05.28 | TD-Linux | I renamed proccess to capComment |
| 15:05.36 | TD-Linux | it was easier to read for me |
| 15:05.51 | Pimpi | ;) |
| 15:05.55 | Pimpi | you need process |
| 15:06.02 | TD-Linux | I do? why? |
| 15:06.16 | TD-Linux | why does it need to be named process? |
| 15:07.12 | Pimpi | bz_EventHandler has a virtual abstract function bzEventHandler::process |
| 15:07.24 | TD-Linux | ohhhhhhhhh |
| 15:07.33 | Pimpi | you need to overload it, it's called by the API |
| 15:07.52 | TD-Linux | yes, I see, it tells me that in a cryptic sort of way |
| 15:08.02 | Pimpi | it's the way plugins work for bz |
| 15:08.04 | TD-Linux | ahh, overloading things to death is fun! |
| 15:08.09 | TD-Linux | :) |
| 15:08.28 | Pimpi | nah, it was declared, not defined though |
| 15:08.52 | Pimpi | so you need to define it in your derived clas |
| 15:08.55 | Pimpi | class |
| 15:09.09 | TD-Linux | so I could have used capComment? |
| 15:09.15 | TD-Linux | oh well, I changed it to process now |
| 15:09.24 | Pimpi | no, you couldn't |
| 15:09.29 | TD-Linux | ok |
| 15:09.39 | TD-Linux | compile worked! |
| 15:09.50 | TD-Linux | now I have to make the plugin actually do something... |
| 15:09.52 | Pimpi | if it makes you happy cou can call capComment from process |
| 15:09.57 | TD-Linux | ok |
| 15:10.01 | TD-Linux | I won't |
| 15:10.10 | TD-Linux | I like clean code, I just don't like writing it |
| 15:11.23 | TD-Linux | are you a plugin dev, Pimpi? |
| 15:12.12 | Pimpi | i'm just writing a plugin (my first though) and i wrote things for the API, so i know it |
| 15:12.17 | TD-Linux | ok |
| 15:12.28 | TD-Linux | I'll feature-request bz_red_team |
| 15:12.30 | TD-Linux | etc |
| 15:12.38 | TD-Linux | in fact, I could add it |
| 15:12.47 | TD-Linux | in bzAPI.h I bet those are defined |
| 15:13.05 | TD-Linux | so, red would be 250 |
| 15:13.07 | Pimpi | BZ_RED_TEAM is already defined there |
| 15:13.20 | TD-Linux | with bz_blue, etc? |
| 15:13.28 | Pimpi | yep |
| 15:13.31 | TD-Linux | and rabbit? |
| 15:13.52 | Pimpi | they are, just they don't fit for sending messages |
| 15:13.55 | Pimpi | bbl |
| 15:14.04 | TD-Linux | ok |
| 15:14.06 | TD-Linux | bye |
| 15:14.24 | meacan | damn, my plugin name (trigger happy) is used by a flag :( |
| 15:14.52 | TD-Linux | well, newplug.sh with a few mods can change that quick |
| 15:15.40 | meacan | I realize that, but I liked trigger happy |
| 15:16.24 | TD-Linux | how about happyOnTheTrigger? |
| 15:16.27 | TD-Linux | :) |
| 15:16.33 | meacan | erhm :) |
| 15:16.41 | Grumbler | what does your plugin do, and maybe we can fill your head with ideas |
| 15:16.54 | TD-Linux | I can guess |
| 15:17.07 | TD-Linux | it makes the tanks all constantly shoot bullets? |
| 15:17.36 | meacan | It reacts on some input (currently /commands) and performs an operation. |
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| 15:17.43 | TD-Linux | ok |
| 15:17.59 | meacan | OnEvent perhaps |
| 15:19.03 | meacan | fill my head, please :) |
| 15:19.51 | meacan | hmm Reactor, IDoThisYouDoThat |
| 15:21.22 | TD-Linux | here comes another short cut-and-paste, will this work? |
| 15:21.24 | TD-Linux | bz_CTFCaptureEventData *ctfData = (bz_CTFCaptureEventData*)eventData; |
| 15:21.24 | TD-Linux | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:21.24 | TD-Linux | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:21.24 | TD-Linux | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:22.09 | TD-Linux | that look good? |
| 15:22.30 | RPG_ | whatcha trying to do? |
| 15:22.58 | meacan | TD-Linux: why not try and see? |
| 15:22.58 | TD-Linux | look, I think you can see |
| 15:23.02 | TD-Linux | I am |
| 15:23.04 | TD-Linux | trying |
| 15:23.36 | RPG_ | in my experinces, bz_sendTextMessage had trouble sending messages to teams |
| 15:23.38 | trepan | you'll probably need to adjust the team indices |
| 15:23.43 | RPG_ | but i only tried it with the observer team |
| 15:24.02 | TD-Linux | Pimpi told me that |
| 15:24.07 | TD-Linux | he said 250-team |
| 15:24.14 | RPG_ | TD-Linux: what you trying to do? |
| 15:24.31 | TD-Linux | send messages to the team that capped, the team that got capped, and the player that capped |
| 15:24.42 | RPG_ | just encouraement messsages? |
| 15:24.50 | TD-Linux | can the team indices be made the same? |
| 15:24.53 | TD-Linux | that would be nice |
| 15:24.57 | TD-Linux | or have consts |
| 15:24.59 | RPG_ | try using a for() loop and sending the team message to each player separately |
| 15:25.03 | meacan | RPG_: if you need linux-compiling youre more than welcome to mail me again |
| 15:25.10 | RPG_ | meacan: thx |
| 15:25.14 | RPG_ | i proably will :D |
| 15:25.19 | RPG_ | working on beta 2 |
| 15:25.21 | meacan | Sure thing :) |
| 15:25.55 | TD-Linux | hmmm... we could make another set of consts for team messages in bzAPI.h |
| 15:26.04 | meacan | I've dropped the ticketbattle plugin until bzfsapi gets the functions i need (so server dosnt need a patch) |
| 15:26.08 | RPG_ | team consts: |
| 15:26.08 | RPG_ | BZ_RED_TEAM |
| 15:26.12 | RPG_ | BZ_BLUE_TEAM |
| 15:26.14 | RPG_ | etc... |
| 15:26.17 | TD-Linux | NO NO NO |
| 15:26.22 | TD-Linux | those don't work for messages |
| 15:26.30 | TD-Linux | messages use different numbers |
| 15:26.31 | TD-Linux | :) |
| 15:26.48 | TD-Linux | 250 - teamnumber, I've heard |
| 15:27.25 | RPG_ | ~say RPG_ will emerge when he is ready |
| 15:27.26 | ibot | RPG_ will emerge when he is ready |
| 15:27.50 | RPG_ | ~say once TD-Linux drops that axe |
| 15:27.50 | ibot | once TD-Linux drops that axe |
| 15:28.34 | RPG_ | your not supposed to have axes indoors! |
| 15:28.36 | trepan | teamMsgIndex(ctfData->teamCaped) might be better then adding new constants |
| 15:28.47 | TD-Linux | oh, I never read about that function |
| 15:28.51 | TD-Linux | I'll use that |
| 15:29.00 | RPG_ | does it work with the API? |
| 15:29.29 | TD-Linux | yes, that's what we are tlaking about |
| 15:29.41 | trepan | it doesn't exist |
| 15:29.48 | RPG_ | heh |
| 15:30.50 | TD-Linux | capComments.cpp:37: error: `teamMsgIndex' undeclared (first use this function) |
| 15:31.18 | TD-Linux | do I have to update CVS to get it? |
| 15:31.24 | TD-Linux | my cvs is a day old, pretty stale by now |
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| 15:31.37 | ibunnylindeijer | hihi |
| 15:31.53 | trepan | TD-Linux: again, it doesn't exist |
| 15:31.57 | TD-Linux | oh |
| 15:32.05 | TD-Linux | ok - we need to write it? |
| 15:32.29 | trepan | yes, i was simply suggesting that a conversion function would be better then adding a bunch of new constants |
| 15:32.35 | TD-Linux | ok |
| 15:32.36 | TD-Linux | yes it would |
| 15:32.45 | TD-Linux | 250 = red, right? |
| 15:32.50 | TD-Linux | 249 = blue? |
| 15:32.58 | TD-Linux | 249 = green? |
| 15:33.03 | TD-Linux | 248 = blue? |
| 15:33.11 | TD-Linux | 247 = purple? |
| 15:33.15 | TD-Linux | is that right? |
| 15:35.32 | brlcad | how goes it trepan |
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| 15:36.03 | trepan | not too badly, sir |
| 15:36.18 | brlcad | how're the wrists? |
| 15:36.26 | brlcad | still there I see :) |
| 15:36.50 | brlcad | at least I hope you're not typing with a straw |
| 15:37.07 | TD-Linux | this server plugin could get annoying |
| 15:37.08 | trepan | getting worst and worst, seeing the dr. in ~1 month |
| 15:37.18 | brlcad | ahh, damn |
| 15:37.23 | TD-Linux | oh oh, that dosen't sound good |
| 15:37.29 | RPG_ | td-linux: use a for loop to send a message to each person on the team, instead of sending it the the ntire team |
| 15:37.46 | TD-Linux | sending it to the team is easier and cooler |
| 15:37.46 | RPG_ | 'cause obviously there's trouble with the second option |
| 15:37.55 | TD-Linux | well, it can be done |
| 15:37.59 | RPG_ | but you can't get it to work |
| 15:38.05 | TD-Linux | I will get it to wrok |
| 15:38.58 | TD-Linux | I'm writing a function |
| 15:39.01 | TD-Linux | I think I got it |
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| 15:39.26 | TD-Linux | int teamMsgIndex(int BZTeam) { |
| 15:39.38 | TD-Linux | return 250 - BZTeam; |
| 15:39.40 | TD-Linux | } |
| 15:39.42 | TD-Linux | tada |
| 15:39.58 | TD-Linux | how's that for a lengthy conversion routine? |
| 15:40.15 | trepan | TD-Linux: you may also want to validate the result (-1 == invalidTeam) |
| 15:40.19 | Pimpi | TD-Linux: i think it might work |
| 15:40.47 | TD-Linux | Pimpi, will that work for observer and hunter? |
| 15:40.55 | TD-Linux | what were those special case values? |
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| 15:41.14 | RPG_ | hunter == rogue |
| 15:41.28 | Pimpi | read sendMessage(...) in bzfs.cxx |
| 15:41.29 | TD-Linux | ij |
| 15:41.34 | TD-Linux | ok |
| 15:41.40 | TD-Linux | I g2g now |
| 15:41.58 | Pimpi | yep, hunter is rogue (at least for now) |
| 15:42.20 | Pimpi | read up for observer, i told you before, but don't remember |
| 15:43.06 | Pimpi | try it before you do new conversion routines |
| 15:49.14 | RPG_ | huh? |
| 15:49.15 | RPG_ | keepscore.obj : error LNK2019: unresolved external symbol "class std::basic_string<char,struct std::char_traits<char>,class std::allocator<char> > __cdecl TextUtils::format(char const *,...)" (?format@TextUtils@@YA?AV?$basic_string@DU?$char_traits@D@std@@V?$allocator@D@2@@std@@PBDZZ) referenced in function "public: virtual void __thiscall pluginHandler::process(class bz_EventData *)" (?process@pluginHandler@@UAEXPAVbz_EventData@@@Z) |
| 15:53.47 | trepan | you need to link with libCommon |
| 15:55.28 | trepan | (common.lib in win?) |
| 15:56.18 | RPG_ | LINK : fatal error LNK1104: cannot open file 'common.lib' |
| 15:57.41 | RPG_ | can you give dll files their own icon? |
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| 16:19.22 | CBG | I get an error trying to run ./configure on latest cvs.... |
| 16:19.36 | CBG | "configure: error: cannot run /bin/sh ./config.sub" :( |
| 16:22.58 | bryjen | the command-line build doesn't get along with the osx autotools. use xcode |
| 16:23.25 | CBG | I don't understand... |
| 16:23.35 | CBG | besides, i have done this before, several times. |
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| 16:26.01 | CBG | bryjen... :( |
| 16:29.09 | bryjen | building with the command-line tools may currently be broken on OS X. Apple's graphical development environment (x code?) may work. |
| 16:30.01 | CBG | Ok, how do I use that? :S |
| 16:30.50 | bryjen | I donno, it's your OS, not mine ;) |
| 16:31.08 | CBG | That doesn't mean I know how it works. :P |
| 16:34.21 | CBG | is wegstar a mac user? :S |
| 16:34.49 | wegstar | what? |
| 16:34.53 | wegstar | no.. :) |
| 16:35.19 | CBG | :( |
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| 17:06.50 | ToughShooter | CBG: Use Fink or Darwinports, change $PATH and it will work |
| 17:10.08 | Thonolan | lol |
| 17:10.24 | ToughShooter | -v |
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| 17:14.25 | uso_w | hi |
| 17:15.01 | uso_w | is there a setting to disable the animation of the flags on display? |
| 17:17.10 | JeffM2501 | DTRemenak, do we need a b14? |
| 17:17.15 | JeffM2501 | sporry b15 |
| 17:30.06 | ToughShooter | Has anyone else high lag poblems when using GM on CVS-builds with the effects? My framerate drops from 67 to 60 (no problem) but my lag goes up from 220 +-1ms to 340 +-40ms. |
| 17:32.05 | JeffM2501 | and it dosn't happen if you have the effects on? |
| 17:32.45 | ToughShooter | You mean via deactivating all fancy effects or only lowest setting of the GM one? |
| 17:32.54 | JeffM2501 | deactivating them |
| 17:33.05 | JeffM2501 | see if it is tied to the effects at all |
| 17:33.28 | ToughShooter | I'll try out, one moment please |
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| 17:58.04 | ToughShooter | It doesn't happen when the effects are off, in case they are on it does not seem to have any impact which setting is used for GM effect. |
| 18:01.59 | JeffM2501 | wierd |
| 18:02.20 | JeffM2501 | well they will steal a bit of drawing speed |
| 18:02.34 | JeffM2501 | maybe it's enough to just geek the lag calc |
| 18:02.49 | JeffM2501 | does gameplay seem any more lagy? |
| 18:02.54 | JeffM2501 | or is it just the number you see? |
| 18:03.31 | ToughShooter | System is OS X 10.4.2, PPC790@2GHZ CPU, 667MHZ FSB, 512MB DDR SD RAM, Radeon 9600 (including 128MB DDR SD RAM) |
| 18:03.46 | JeffM2501 | umm ok |
| 18:03.59 | ToughShooter | I see everything ok, but others are really complaining |
| 18:04.00 | JeffM2501 | does it seem any more lagy? |
| 18:04.08 | JeffM2501 | so you seem to jump around to them? |
| 18:04.12 | JeffM2501 | or do they just see the number? |
| 18:04.29 | ToughShooter | I only see it with the number and with their complaints |
| 18:04.40 | JeffM2501 | ask them what they are complaining about |
| 18:04.48 | JeffM2501 | is it you jumping around? or just they see your lag number? |
| 18:04.57 | ToughShooter | I was told I would be jumping all over the screen |
| 18:05.18 | ToughShooter | Very fast moving, too |
| 18:05.21 | JeffM2501 | wierdness |
| 18:05.42 | JeffM2501 | and your fps only drops by 7frames? |
| 18:05.49 | ToughShooter | yes |
| 18:05.59 | JeffM2501 | one would think that would not cause much |
| 18:07.38 | ToughShooter | Sometimes frames drop less and then the jitter in lagstats is lower, too |
| 18:07.51 | ToughShooter | it only happens when shooting |
| 18:08.52 | JeffM2501 | wied |
| 18:09.29 | ToughShooter | I'm running a 1680*1050 resolution, having absolutly no GM self kills (that was one problem on my ibook) |
| 18:10.08 | ToughShooter | maybe the widescreen res could be one factor |
| 18:10.16 | JeffM2501 | should not mater |
| 18:10.21 | JeffM2501 | unless you card can't handle it |
| 18:10.26 | JeffM2501 | but it should be able to |
| 18:10.39 | ToughShooter | it's my displays native resolution |
| 18:10.44 | JeffM2501 | cards don't care about aspect ratio, the screen is still a grid of pixels :) |
| 18:10.47 | JeffM2501 | good |
| 18:10.51 | JeffM2501 | you should allways run native |
| 18:11.10 | JeffM2501 | the apple 20" ? |
| 18:11.16 | ToughShooter | yes |
| 18:11.29 | JeffM2501 | not a bad display |
| 18:12.07 | ToughShooter | Well, it's not so good, IMHO. One touch and there are scratchs |
| 18:12.57 | JeffM2501 | yeah flats can not as tough |
| 18:13.02 | JeffM2501 | and tha'ts one of the older ones isn't i? |
| 18:13.04 | JeffM2501 | it? |
| 18:14.06 | ToughShooter | I haven't really looked what happened at the display area |
| 18:15.26 | ToughShooter | dell :o |
| 18:15.36 | JeffM2501 | has more inputs then the apple one |
| 18:15.44 | JeffM2501 | and a faster update time |
| 18:15.53 | JeffM2501 | also costs about 1/2 |
| 18:16.14 | ToughShooter | and more defuncts I suppose ;) |
| 18:16.21 | JeffM2501 | no, not really |
| 18:16.27 | JeffM2501 | it's very well rated |
| 18:16.32 | ToughShooter | no dead pixels? |
| 18:16.35 | JeffM2501 | it's not like apple makes it's own displays :) |
| 18:16.45 | JeffM2501 | same rate as other quality ones. |
| 18:16.55 | ToughShooter | I was told company can order different qualities |
| 18:16.57 | JeffM2501 | I've not heard people complaining about deads |
| 18:17.01 | JeffM2501 | they can |
| 18:17.12 | JeffM2501 | this is not a cheap display |
| 18:17.21 | JeffM2501 | we are talking about 800-1000$ |
| 18:19.15 | JeffM2501 | dosn't have the firewire hub in it tho |
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| 19:34.28 | a_monkey | is it normal that when i update cvs, make, and make install, the version that the client outputs when i start it up is outdated? |
| 19:36.12 | a_monkey | if i checkout cvs on the 1st, and update on the 2nd, the client still says it's version "2.0.3.20050801-DEVEL" instead of "2.0.3.20050802-DEVEL" |
| 19:36.34 | a_monkey | just asking if this is perfectly normal or not. |
| 19:38.43 | orchid | a_monkey: not sure, but I wouldnt worry about unless it causing some problems |
| 19:39.24 | a_monkey | i just thought, if it says it's an older version, it might actually never have gotten updated |
| 19:39.31 | orchid | trepan: /? lists server commands and /cmds lists client ones? |
| 19:39.35 | orchid | + |
| 19:40.39 | orchid | bah cvs is blocked again |
| 19:41.37 | orchid | a_monkey: you checked out and compiled on the 1st, and updated and compiled on the second? |
| 19:41.49 | a_monkey | orchid: yes |
| 19:42.26 | bryjen | it only updates the date when ./configure is run |
| 19:43.24 | a_monkey | oh |
| 19:43.52 | a_monkey | but if i run the configure script, i have to compile the whole thing over again |
| 19:43.58 | a_monkey | right? |
| 19:44.30 | bryjen | yeah, that will touch all the Makefiles and make will want to rebuild the world |
| 19:45.17 | a_monkey | also, is it normal to get this in the middle of a build: "override rw-r--r-- root/admin for .deps/buildDate.Po? (y/n [n])"? |
| 19:45.35 | a_monkey | or am i on my own |
| 19:46.20 | bryjen | that's a file generated during the build, you probly did 'make" as root at some point |
| 19:46.32 | a_monkey | nope |
| 19:46.46 | a_monkey | i paid careful attention that i was one user the whole process |
| 19:46.53 | bryjen | uhm.... |
| 19:47.46 | a_monkey | hmm |
| 19:48.01 | a_monkey | well, it might be a mac-specific thing, ya know |
| 19:48.17 | a_monkey | i'm doing it as the "admin" user |
| 19:48.20 | a_monkey | not root |
| 19:48.32 | bryjen | become root, and delete that file. it will be regenerated next time you build. |
| 19:48.46 | a_monkey | ok. and i build as a normal user? |
| 19:48.51 | uso_w | which id has the admin user? |
| 19:49.22 | bryjen | yes, building should be done as a plain-old user. no superpowers necesary ;) |
| 19:49.34 | a_monkey | yay |
| 19:49.38 | a_monkey | thanks for your help |
| 19:49.47 | a_monkey | now i'm all set |
| 19:50.05 | uso_w | it may also have id 0 like root, only other name and primary group ;) |
| 19:50.17 | uso_w | don't know the mac |
| 19:50.53 | a_monkey | i never really knew how mac "admin" users worked |
| 19:51.09 | a_monkey | but they're the primary users that can do the most system-level things |
| 19:51.18 | a_monkey | not quite as powerful as root |
| 19:51.19 | uso_w | try command "id" as admin user (if the mac know this command) |
| 19:51.25 | a_monkey | ok |
| 19:51.36 | uso_w | maybe id -a |
| 19:52.32 | a_monkey | -a doesn't seem to be valid |
| 19:52.40 | a_monkey | id gives me "uid=501(elmunky) gid=501(elmunky) groups=501(elmunky), 81(appserveradm), 79(appserverusr), 80(admin)" |
| 19:53.45 | uso_w | hm, that's not the admin user, only admin group |
| 19:53.59 | uso_w | don't know where your root owned file comes from then |
| 19:54.48 | a_monkey | oh well |
| 19:55.07 | a_monkey | i'll just do what bryjen told me to do. :) |
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| 19:58.43 | a_monkey | hmm |
| 19:59.00 | silverfox | if you use -mts or -mps in combination with -g, shouldn't the server shut down after mts/mps is reached? |
| 19:59.11 | a_monkey | so there should be a directory called .deps in the bzflag cvs directory? |
| 20:00.13 | silverfox | it does not. Should this be submitted as a bug? |
| 20:00.39 | bryjen | from the top, it is probly src/date/.deps/ |
| 20:00.47 | bryjen | for that file |
| 20:01.28 | a_monkey | oh |
| 20:01.29 | a_monkey | i see |
| 20:01.34 | bryjen | silverfox: i think the game stops, but the server program may not exit until everyone disconnects |
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| 20:05.29 | silverfox | bryjen, using -g in addition to a time, the server program exits. I would think the same behavior would be appropriate with -mts and -mps |
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| 20:08.45 | bryjen | yes, that is logical. doesn't mean it's coded that way ;) |
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| 20:10.58 | Birdie | oh oh |
| 20:11.04 | Birdie | its the big boss |
| 20:12.02 | Chikorita | Birdie: ;) |
| 20:12.15 | Chikorita | big bird |
| 20:12.16 | Birdie | chikochicko |
| 20:12.48 | Chikorita | ur da tall boss |
| 20:12.53 | Chikorita | dang tallies |
| 20:12.58 | Chikorita | hehee |
| 20:12.58 | silverfox | bryjen, you think that is controlled in CmdLineOptions.cxx ? |
| 20:13.02 | Birdie | watch out for tall bosses..au |
| 20:13.17 | Chikorita | ya they like to look down on u ;) |
| 20:13.37 | Birdie | thats not hard if i'm looking to you:) |
| 20:13.45 | Chikorita | bigger they r , harder they fall |
| 20:13.54 | Birdie | you cant have pain than |
| 20:13.57 | Chikorita | hah |
| 20:14.30 | Chikorita | superflag pillbox was fun |
| 20:14.59 | silverfox | its at line 2512 of bzfs.cxx |
| 20:16.04 | Pimpi | silverfox: i don't think anyone used -g for ages, maybe it's broken |
| 20:16.17 | bryjen | CmdLineOptions parses the command line into variables... inside bzfs.cxx, running out of time sets done=true, which will exit the main loop, while matching a max score only sets gameOver |
| 20:16.32 | silverfox | I think the if (clOptions->oneGameOnly) { |
| 20:16.32 | silverfox | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:16.52 | silverfox | ah. |
| 20:17.23 | silverfox | bryjen, my source (not current) sets done = true; |
| 20:17.45 | silverfox | but, its nested in an if statement that checks to see if players are still online first. |
| 20:17.49 | bryjen | without a time-limit, it is only checked on removing a player if the server has emptied and should be reset (done=true) |
| 20:18.59 | bryjen | that block is inside removePlayer() |
| 20:20.14 | silverfox | is MaxTeam max team score? |
| 20:20.49 | silverfox | there is also a MaxTeamSize and maxTeamScore |
| 20:21.38 | silverfox | what I want is in sub checkTeamScore right? |
| 20:22.14 | bryjen | that would catch -mts |
| 20:22.40 | silverfox | instead of setting done = true, how about setting the time to 10 seconds (to allow viewing of the "Team ____ won" message.) |
| 20:24.13 | *** part/#bzflag |zongo| (n=zongo@fl-71-0-156-54.dyn.sprint-hsd.net) |
| 20:25.22 | silverfox | Just add a line to checkTeamScore: if (clOptions->oneGameOnly) {done = true; exitCode = 0;} |
| 20:25.30 | silverfox | I haven't found one for -mps yet though. |
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| 20:25.41 | silverfox | wish i knew how to write a patch... |
| 20:26.16 | bryjen | around line 2897 "// see if the player reached the score limit" |
| 20:26.35 | silverfox | ah, thanks. |
| 20:26.43 | silverfox | so, how do I go about writing a patch? |
| 20:28.43 | silverfox | make changes, then do some sort of diff against the original file? |
| 20:28.50 | bryjen | yes |
| 20:29.23 | bryjen | if this dir was checked out with cvs, cvs diff -u src/bzfs/bzfs.cxx > /path/for/file.patch |
| 20:29.53 | silverfox | oh... that seems easy. |
| 20:30.15 | silverfox | I'll cvs update first, then make the edits, then the patch. How do I submit it for consideration? |
| 20:32.14 | silverfox | cvs is so cool. |
| 20:39.51 | JeffM2501 | what does the patch do? |
| 20:40.40 | silverfox | if -g is used in conjunction with -mts or -mps, the server shuts down after gameover |
| 20:41.06 | JeffM2501 | sounds logical |
| 20:41.16 | JeffM2501 | should be a simple change too I'd think |
| 20:41.41 | silverfox | yes. |
| 20:41.46 | silverfox | simple enough I could figure it out. |
| 20:42.40 | silverfox | I forget how to check what version cvs is at... |
| 20:43.39 | silverfox | JeffM2501, how do I submit the patch? |
| 20:44.35 | JeffM2501 | how many lines change? |
| 20:45.27 | JeffM2501 | the normal way is usualy to add it to the patch tracker on SF |
| 20:45.39 | JeffM2501 | but I'll add it into cvs now if you want |
| 20:46.04 | silverfox | like 6 (could be forced onto 2 I guess. |
| 20:46.16 | JeffM2501 | just tell me the changes in PM then :) |
| 20:46.25 | silverfox | might want to wait until I test it. |
| 20:46.28 | JeffM2501 | ok |
| 20:46.31 | JeffM2501 | when you are ready |
| 20:46.43 | JeffM2501 | just mail me, or PM me or let me know what the changes are and I can apply them |
| 20:46.49 | JeffM2501 | so can bryjen |
| 20:48.33 | silverfox | how do you tell what version CVS is at? |
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| 20:49.06 | JeffM2501 | depends on your cvs client |
| 20:49.13 | JeffM2501 | every file has a version number |
| 20:50.13 | uso_w | cvs stat filename |
| 20:50.35 | uso_w | if there's no sticky tag you are on HEAD |
| 20:52.08 | silverfox | does that look ok JeffM2501? |
| 20:52.41 | JeffM2501 | trying to figure out what it does, I hate reading diffs :) |
| 20:52.51 | a_monkey | yay! we got the old colorful server list back |
| 20:53.42 | JeffM2501 | have to make bzfs build first before I cand do your changes |
| 20:54.25 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: jeffm2501 * bzflag/win32/VC71/bzfs.vcproj: add worldgenerator.h/cxx |
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| 20:55.55 | JeffM2501 | silverfox, did you test it? |
| 20:57.23 | silverfox | compiling now. |
| 20:59.24 | JeffM2501 | DTRemenak, you keep spelling my name wrong :) |
| 21:00.20 | JeffM2501 | who gets to name 2.0.4 ? |
| 21:01.23 | DTRemenak | JeffM2501, hmm? |
| 21:02.14 | JeffM2501 | oh it had looked like you had put my name wrong in the changelog, but you may have just copied it from one of the other ones that was wrong in the same file |
| 21:02.32 | DTRemenak | oopsie :) |
| 21:02.58 | JeffM2501 | then I wondered who'd get to name 2.0.4 |
| 21:03.19 | ToughShooter | How about some warnings when someone tries to ban a player which has the same IP-adress like another player that is already playing? :( |
| 21:03.52 | DTRemenak | oh, yeah I did. my bad. |
| 21:04.05 | DTRemenak | must have been late at night, I know better :) |
| 21:04.34 | TD-Linux | where in the bzfs source code does it say what numbers correspond to which team chat channels? |
| 21:05.02 | silverfox | testing the patch right now on silvercat.tybox.net:5154 |
| 21:05.12 | silverfox | gotta wait until team score reaches 3. |
| 21:05.12 | silverfox | ;) |
| 21:06.06 | wegstar_away | prolly in the headers.. |
| 21:07.35 | TD-Linux | ahh, found it - It's in a function |
| 21:07.42 | TD-Linux | I have to look at a function that converts |
| 21:09.15 | TD-Linux | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:09.16 | TD-Linux | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:09.53 | silverfox | JeffM2501, it works perfectly! |
| 21:09.59 | silverfox | yeah! My first patch! |
| 21:10.17 | wegstar_away | :D |
| 21:10.25 | TD-Linux | Patch? You can't use a plugin? |
| 21:10.30 | TD-Linux | :P |
| 21:10.36 | silverfox | I don't think a plugin would be appropriate. |
| 21:10.38 | TD-Linux | ok |
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| 21:10.47 | JeffM2501 | no a plugin would not work here |
| 21:10.51 | JeffM2501 | it's just a change |
| 21:10.55 | JeffM2501 | a very small one |
| 21:10.56 | TD-Linux | I'm writing a new function for bzfsAPI.h |
| 21:11.04 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: jeffm2501 * bzflag/ (ChangeLog src/bzfs/bzfs.cxx): quit server if -g and -mps or -mts are used |
| 21:11.11 | JeffM2501 | what function TD-Linux? |
| 21:11.16 | silverfox | cool. |
| 21:11.20 | TD-Linux | teamMsgIndex |
| 21:11.27 | TD-Linux | prototype: |
| 21:12.03 | TD-Linux | int teamMsgIndex(int team); |
| 21:12.06 | JeffM2501 | TD-Linux, to what? just send a message to teams? |
| 21:12.25 | TD-Linux | yes, converts from BZ_RED_TEAM to the team message number |
| 21:12.30 | TD-Linux | for example |
| 21:12.31 | JeffM2501 | eww |
| 21:12.34 | JeffM2501 | dude that's ugly |
| 21:12.38 | TD-Linux | no, it's easy |
| 21:12.42 | JeffM2501 | fix the code inside the fucntion |
| 21:12.42 | TD-Linux | very easy |
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| 21:12.54 | JeffM2501 | make send messag actualy WORK |
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| 21:13.05 | TD-Linux | you just have to put the function in the line |
| 21:13.10 | JeffM2501 | yes |
| 21:13.12 | JeffM2501 | and that is ugly |
| 21:13.16 | JeffM2501 | it is a hack |
| 21:13.18 | JeffM2501 | fix the bug |
| 21:13.21 | JeffM2501 | don't make a new hack |
| 21:13.24 | TD-Linux | well...it isn't a bug |
| 21:13.28 | JeffM2501 | yes it is |
| 21:13.31 | TD-Linux | it is? |
| 21:13.32 | TD-Linux | oh |
| 21:13.34 | JeffM2501 | yes |
| 21:13.44 | JeffM2501 | the team #defs should be valid destinations |
| 21:13.51 | JeffM2501 | the function should fix it |
| 21:14.03 | TD-Linux | but the team defs are valid for some commands, right? |
| 21:14.04 | JeffM2501 | the API should not have to care |
| 21:14.22 | JeffM2501 | yes, and sendTextMessage should be one of them |
| 21:14.29 | TD-Linux | can you fix the problem by putting in my function in the API? |
| 21:14.47 | JeffM2501 | why not just fix the code? |
| 21:14.54 | TD-Linux | they are the same |
| 21:14.57 | TD-Linux | basicalluy |
| 21:14.59 | JeffM2501 | tho I see that the team defs are badly named |
| 21:15.07 | TD-Linux | here is my function to put in the sendMessage thing: |
| 21:15.08 | JeffM2501 | TD-Linux, yes but fixing the code is cleaner |
| 21:15.14 | JeffM2501 | why make more crap just to fix a bug |
| 21:15.24 | bryjen | aren't those def's left-overs from when you could register events for specific teams? |
| 21:15.34 | JeffM2501 | bryjen, yeah mostly |
| 21:15.45 | JeffM2501 | that is why I am saying the need to be fixed so they are actualy usefull for channels |
| 21:15.54 | JeffM2501 | tho thye are also used for some team stuff, like teamscore |
| 21:16.04 | TD-Linux | wait a minute |
| 21:16.19 | TD-Linux | you either have to change the #defs |
| 21:16.25 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 21:16.27 | TD-Linux | yes |
| 21:16.29 | JeffM2501 | I do have to change the defs |
| 21:16.32 | JeffM2501 | to fix the bug |
| 21:16.40 | TD-Linux | but change all the other functions |
| 21:16.44 | JeffM2501 | the defs should be independent to the itnerals |
| 21:16.55 | JeffM2501 | yeah, I'll have to change where they are used too |
| 21:17.04 | JeffM2501 | never said it was easy, just said it was clean |
| 21:17.07 | TD-Linux | oh well, the code to do that is in bzfs.cxx |
| 21:17.15 | JeffM2501 | so |
| 21:17.30 | TD-Linux | you can basically do a copy-paste, with some changes |
| 21:17.33 | TD-Linux | still hard work |
| 21:17.40 | JeffM2501 | so |
| 21:18.00 | TD-Linux | are you implying that I should fix it? |
| 21:18.17 | JeffM2501 | well you were saying you were adding a function |
| 21:18.29 | TD-Linux | oh, but I didn't know it was a bug then |
| 21:18.31 | JeffM2501 | would that not imply that you'd want that to be added to the mainline to fix the problem? |
| 21:18.37 | TD-Linux | and the function was easy |
| 21:18.44 | JeffM2501 | easy != clean |
| 21:18.53 | JeffM2501 | I wasy saying that there are cleaner ways to fix the bug |
| 21:18.57 | TD-Linux | ok |
| 21:19.17 | JeffM2501 | and no I don't expect you to fix it |
| 21:19.34 | TD-Linux | good :) /me just learned C++ 2 days ago |
| 21:19.37 | JeffM2501 | time to break the API |
| 21:19.41 | JeffM2501 | all of it? |
| 21:19.42 | JeffM2501 | wow |
| 21:19.44 | JeffM2501 | impressive |
| 21:19.52 | TD-Linux | well... I knew some C |
| 21:20.00 | TD-Linux | not structs or classes or OOP |
| 21:20.03 | TD-Linux | or even functions |
| 21:20.16 | TD-Linux | I wrote a plugin |
| 21:20.25 | TD-Linux | it says Kablooie! anytime someone dies |
| 21:20.27 | JeffM2501 | you knew c but you didn't know about functions? |
| 21:20.29 | TD-Linux | quite annoying |
| 21:20.37 | TD-Linux | except for main() |
| 21:20.46 | TD-Linux | I was a basic programmer |
| 21:20.58 | TD-Linux | this was in 3rd grade I discovered Turbo C++ for DOS |
| 21:21.06 | TD-Linux | I learned C |
| 21:21.14 | TD-Linux | I wrote Rock Paper Scissors |
| 21:21.17 | TD-Linux | with lots of IFs |
| 21:21.21 | JeffM2501 | functions are the basic feature of C |
| 21:21.26 | TD-Linux | I know |
| 21:21.51 | TD-Linux | but, at 3rd grade, that was a bit hard to understand |
| 21:21.58 | TD-Linux | because I could copy-and-paste |
| 21:22.14 | TD-Linux | and I was so excited that I didn't have to line-number like in QBASIC |
| 21:22.32 | TD-Linux | most of my C programs look more like QBASIC than C |
| 21:22.42 | bryjen | qbasic doesn't require line numbers. it also has subroutines and functions |
| 21:23.09 | TD-Linux | My QBASIC does! Functions are easier in qBasic. |
| 21:23.16 | TD-Linux | QBasic needs line numbers |
| 21:23.21 | TD-Linux | QuickBasic does not |
| 21:23.24 | TD-Linux | I had QBasic |
| 21:23.28 | TD-Linux | Qbasic free |
| 21:23.30 | bryjen | not the one that came with msdos |
| 21:23.31 | TD-Linux | QuickBasic not |
| 21:23.51 | TD-Linux | well, mine wants line numbers |
| 21:24.23 | JeffM2501 | TD-Linux, then you do not know it's power |
| 21:24.32 | ToughShooter | Overloading isn't cool, pattern matching is :p |
| 21:24.51 | JeffM2501 | I don't think you realy know C++ I think you have enough knowledge to hack up code, that's about it, but you have little clue what is going on the background. |
| 21:25.01 | TD-Linux | exactly |
| 21:25.08 | TD-Linux | ~JeffM2501++ |
| 21:27.08 | JeffM2501 | best not to make comments on things you don't understand then ;) |
| 21:27.25 | ToughShooter | Is C using applicative or normal evaluation? |
| 21:28.14 | TD-Linux | ok - but I'm 13, I'm going to reply to every message I see on IRC, what's overloading functions? How do I create my own makefile? Why does Microsoft charge for VC++? I need more pixie stix. |
| 21:28.26 | JeffM2501 | age maters not |
| 21:28.37 | JeffM2501 | dude |
| 21:28.43 | TD-Linux | :) |
| 21:28.49 | JeffM2501 | if you want real answers you are going to have to stop acting like a child |
| 21:28.54 | TD-Linux | ok |
| 21:29.06 | JeffM2501 | it is anoying and causes people to not want to help you |
| 21:29.09 | TD-Linux | ok |
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| 21:29.30 | JeffM2501 | the fist step to answer any question you have is to do a simple search |
| 21:29.33 | JeffM2501 | for yourself |
| 21:29.36 | TD-Linux | ok |
| 21:29.53 | JeffM2501 | then if that dosn't provide all the info you need, then you can at least ask an informed question |
| 21:30.00 | TD-Linux | ok |
| 21:30.11 | JeffM2501 | not stupid things like "what is an overload" |
| 21:30.17 | JeffM2501 | and MS dosn't charge for all VCs |
| 21:30.24 | JeffM2501 | there is a free one |
| 21:30.30 | TD-Linux | I have it on my laptop |
| 21:30.36 | JeffM2501 | I'm sure you do |
| 21:30.39 | TD-Linux | well, not *my* |
| 21:30.53 | TD-Linux | Visual C++ .NET 2005 BETA Express |
| 21:31.08 | JeffM2501 | then why ask why they charge for it |
| 21:31.34 | TD-Linux | The only reason that I did that was because I was bored and just read the forum FAQ, sorry |
| 21:32.22 | JeffM2501 | if I were you I'd learn more about C++ |
| 21:32.31 | JeffM2501 | not just the things you need to hack stuff up |
| 21:32.34 | JeffM2501 | but the real parts of it |
| 21:32.41 | JeffM2501 | like classes, overides, and derivation |
| 21:37.42 | JeffM2501 | let the errors comence! :) |
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| 21:42.38 | DTRemenak | A broom came in late to work the other day. He had overswept. |
| 21:43.53 | blast007 | heh |
| 21:44.37 | TD-Linux | :) |
| 21:45.24 | TD-Linux | yesssssssssssssss |
| 21:45.28 | TD-Linux | my plugin works! |
| 21:46.18 | JeffM2501 | TD-Linux, you didn't change a major type in API :) |
| 21:47.03 | TD-Linux | unfortunately, to test my plugin, with no solo, I had to capture my own flag |
| 21:47.16 | TD-Linux | [Team] SERVER: Ha ha, losers! |
| 21:47.35 | TD-Linux | my 'hack' function works! |
| 21:48.01 | JeffM2501 | I never said hacks didn't work |
| 21:48.04 | JeffM2501 | I just said they were ugly |
| 21:48.47 | TD-Linux | mine's quite clean |
| 21:49.05 | TD-Linux | int teamMsgIndex(int team) |
| 21:49.05 | TD-Linux | { |
| 21:49.05 | TD-Linux | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:49.05 | TD-Linux | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:49.05 | TD-Linux | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:49.06 | TD-Linux | } |
| 21:49.20 | JeffM2501 | the fact that you have to use that, is ugly |
| 21:49.23 | TD-Linux | oh |
| 21:49.31 | JeffM2501 | the plugin should not know or care about the team IDs |
| 21:49.42 | JeffM2501 | what if we change the guts to allow more then 250 players one day? |
| 21:50.14 | TD-Linux | hmmmmmm..... does the internet acutally have that bandwidth? |
| 21:50.23 | JeffM2501 | you don't get out much do you? |
| 21:50.40 | TD-Linux | I agree, the API should take care of it for you |
| 21:50.42 | JeffM2501 | many games offer masive online play |
| 21:51.08 | TD-Linux | I've heard about something called Runescape |
| 21:51.17 | JeffM2501 | it is masive |
| 21:51.17 | blast007 | sigh.. |
| 21:51.18 | JeffM2501 | masive ass |
| 21:51.20 | JeffM2501 | but masive |
| 21:51.21 | TD-Linux | people tell me there a bazillion people there |
| 21:51.29 | TD-Linux | most of them @#$# |
| 21:51.44 | blast007 | Runescape isn't a very good game ;) |
| 21:51.50 | JeffM2501 | how would you know? you played them? |
| 21:51.52 | JeffM2501 | TD-Linux, ? |
| 21:52.01 | JeffM2501 | blast007, yeah it is |
| 21:52.08 | JeffM2501 | the kiddies seem to love it tho |
| 21:52.09 | TD-Linux | I don't know, all I know is that that's what my friends at school tell me |
| 21:52.16 | TD-Linux | they tell me to play it |
| 21:52.18 | JeffM2501 | you belive anything people tell you? |
| 21:52.25 | TD-Linux | although they themselves don't seem to think it's that great |
| 21:52.34 | TD-Linux | yes, I belileve anything |
| 21:52.42 | TD-Linux | brad told me to type /server |
| 21:52.43 | TD-Linux | I did |
| 21:52.56 | TD-Linux | then he sent me a memo telling me to type /server memo to read it |
| 21:53.02 | TD-Linux | I fell for it again :( |
| 21:53.29 | brad2901 | that wasn't a memo ;-) |
| 21:54.01 | brad2901 | you did do it twice which was kinda silly |
| 21:54.30 | TD-Linux | ~TD-Linux-- |
| 21:54.37 | brad2901 | ~brad2901--- |
| 21:54.38 | brad2901 | ~brad2901-- |
| 21:54.51 | blast007 | sorta like the "type /quit lag" in America's Army ;) |
| 21:55.21 | TD-Linux | I have played Robot Rage before |
| 21:55.33 | TD-Linux | people tell me to push Ctrl-W for double points |
| 21:55.45 | TD-Linux | I ask them why they don't do it :_ |
| 21:56.16 | blast007 | :) |
| 21:56.23 | Pimpi | TD-Linux: if you jump out of the window at 5th floor you can fly |
| 21:56.36 | TD-Linux | I don't have a 5th floor |
| 21:56.45 | TD-Linux | but I'll do it next time I go to the Mayo Clinic |
| 21:56.52 | Pimpi | ;) |
| 21:57.13 | TD-Linux | hmm... that will be in what? 6 months? |
| 21:57.19 | TD-Linux | I don't go there often |
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| 21:58.00 | TD-Linux | I can't jump out of IBM |
| 21:58.17 | TD-Linux | they have a reception desk with bulletproof glass blocking the way in |
| 21:59.00 | TD-Linux | Why don't I jump off a bridge onto Highway 52? |
| 22:00.30 | a_monkey | what's the file in the source code that generates the cracks in the window shield when shot? |
| 22:01.57 | menotume | hmmm, HudRenderer.cxx perhaps |
| 22:02.09 | a_monkey | i'll see if that's the one... |
| 22:02.10 | blast007 | yeah, it has a renderCracks() function |
| 22:07.34 | a_monkey | you might see it in 2.0.4, if the bigshots like it. :) |
| 22:07.43 | silverfox | in CVS, a flag cap seems to trigger all 'eventteam' regardless of the team number. ie, if red captures, green and red bases both have a SW on overlord, pillbox, babel. |
| 22:07.51 | silverfox | is this a known issue? |
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| 22:08.46 | blast007 | is that with a plugin? |
| 22:08.51 | silverfox | no plugins. |
| 22:08.58 | TD-Linux | I think it's just the map |
| 22:09.18 | TD-Linux | I haven't seen that problem |
| 22:09.19 | silverfox | all of my maps started doing it right after I did a a CVS update/rebuild. |
| 22:09.23 | JeffM2501 | silverfox, yeah I think it's busted |
| 22:09.32 | JeffM2501 | it's on my list to look at |
| 22:09.37 | silverfox | JeffM2501, thanks. Someone already looking at it? |
| 22:09.41 | JeffM2501 | not yet |
| 22:09.50 | JeffM2501 | I'm prety sure I was the one that busted it tho |
| 22:11.00 | silverfox | ;) |
| 22:11.56 | JeffM2501 | when I removed the per team events |
| 22:14.36 | Pimpi | you removed it? |
| 22:14.38 | Pimpi | why? |
| 22:15.05 | JeffM2501 | didn't make sense for most events |
| 22:15.22 | JeffM2501 | and the events that needed to do it could just filter based on the team they get as part of the data |
| 22:15.27 | JeffM2501 | made the API cleaner |
| 22:15.35 | JeffM2501 | you can still do the same thing, just difrently |
| 22:15.53 | JeffM2501 | I didn't convert the default oncap handalers to do it the new ways |
| 22:21.57 | TD-Linux | do I need to include any special header to get rnd()? |
| 22:22.30 | JeffM2501 | rnd? |
| 22:22.43 | TD-Linux | random number, I remember using it in Turbo C++ |
| 22:22.47 | JeffM2501 | rand |
| 22:22.50 | TD-Linux | oops |
| 22:22.53 | TD-Linux | rand() |
| 22:23.06 | TD-Linux | does it need a header, or is it built in? |
| 22:23.14 | JeffM2501 | stdlib |
| 22:23.21 | TD-Linux | ok, my book didn't say |
| 22:23.23 | JeffM2501 | nothing in C is built in |
| 22:23.39 | RPG_ | ...i wonder how they code the libraries, then |
| 22:24.21 | JeffM2501 | RPG_, ? |
| 22:24.35 | JeffM2501 | the libs use there own code |
| 22:24.40 | JeffM2501 | rand does a lot of math |
| 22:24.58 | JeffM2501 | the only thing built into C is language features |
| 22:25.03 | JeffM2501 | not functions or classes |
| 22:25.09 | RPG_ | i know |
| 22:25.12 | JeffM2501 | so it has stuff like if else, math |
| 22:25.18 | a_monkey | ho boy. i thought i'd be able to easily hack into HUDRenderer.cxx, but I think I better learn |
| 22:25.21 | a_monkey | oops |
| 22:25.25 | a_monkey | learn C++ first* |
| 22:25.28 | RPG_ | lol |
| 22:25.38 | TD-Linux | now /me has to try to hack it |
| 22:26.02 | a_monkey | i'm trying to make it so the cracks reach out farther, and are more plentiful |
| 22:26.04 | a_monkey | and thinner |
| 22:26.27 | blast007 | thinner is easy |
| 22:26.30 | a_monkey | yea |
| 22:26.34 | a_monkey | i already figured that one out |
| 22:26.52 | TD-Linux | the cracks aren't random, I think they are hard-coded |
| 22:27.02 | TD-Linux | never looked for myself, though |
| 22:27.24 | a_monkey | the cracks differ each time you die, if you look carefully |
| 22:27.26 | blast007 | I think they are a little random |
| 22:27.32 | TD-Linux | oh |
| 22:28.35 | RPG_ | cracks? |
| 22:28.37 | RPG_ | ~crack |
| 22:28.37 | ibot | ACTION thinks the party is getting out of hand |
| 22:28.39 | a_monkey | this cracks code looks like absolute gibberish |
| 22:28.45 | RPG_ | haha!!! |
| 22:28.49 | a_monkey | lol |
| 22:29.01 | a_monkey | don't ask ibot what a crack is |
| 22:29.19 | RPG_ | ~logs |
| 22:29.19 | ibot | hmm... logs is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23bzflag/, or stats http://ibot.rikers.org/stats/bzflag.html.gz |
| 22:29.21 | blast007 | least it didn't mention a plumber |
| 22:29.28 | a_monkey | heheh. :D |
| 22:34.52 | a_monkey | i can't seem to figure out how "HUDNumCracks" is declared |
| 22:35.09 | TD-Linux | do a find |
| 22:35.18 | RPG_ | what "crack" are you talking about? |
| 22:35.24 | a_monkey | oh |
| 22:35.36 | a_monkey | the cracks in your windshield that appear after you die |
| 22:35.59 | RPG_ | ahhhh |
| 22:36.05 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: jeffm2501 * bzflag/ (7 files in 2 dirs): |
| 22:36.06 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: convert teams from #defs to a real enum. |
| 22:36.06 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: modify guts of API to work with new team |
| 22:36.06 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: modify guts of default OnCap stuff to filter per team in the callback, |
| 22:36.13 | TD-Linux | not what ibot thinks |
| 22:36.21 | RPG_ | i missed when CIA-3 spoke in bold :( |
| 22:36.51 | RPG_ | you want more or less cracks? |
| 22:37.14 | menotume | add two, then remove two ... should be about right |
| 22:37.27 | RPG_ | lol |
| 22:37.27 | TD-Linux | I think he wanted more |
| 22:37.30 | a_monkey | well, there are five little lines coming out from the center of the screen when the cracking commences |
| 22:37.37 | a_monkey | they branch off |
| 22:37.39 | RPG_ | i'ma lookin at the code |
| 22:38.01 | a_monkey | i'm trying to get them to branch a few more times |
| 22:38.20 | TD-Linux | I made a plugin that insults a team when their flag is capped |
| 22:38.28 | RPG_ | voidHUDRenderer::initCracks() |
| 22:38.36 | RPG_ | there she is |
| 22:39.06 | RPG_ | right now there's 8 cracks |
| 22:39.14 | RPG_ | says HUDNumCracks |
| 22:39.18 | TD-Linux | make it 255! |
| 22:39.19 | TD-Linux | :P |
| 22:39.23 | RPG_ | lol |
| 22:39.24 | RPG_ | i will |
| 22:39.34 | *** join/#bzflag SportChick (n=SportChi@ca-redbch-cuda1-c3b-a-40.stmnca.adelphia.net) |
| 22:39.38 | RPG_ | gotta love VC++ |
| 22:39.45 | RPG_ | it's got "go to declaration" |
| 22:39.48 | TD-Linux | gotta hate VC++ |
| 22:39.55 | RPG_ | const intHUDCrackLevels = 4; |
| 22:39.57 | RPG_ | there you go |
| 22:39.58 | a_monkey | let's try 10 cracks... |
| 22:40.00 | TD-Linux | gotta love xemacs and g++ |
| 22:40.00 | RPG_ | there's 4 crack levels |
| 22:40.05 | RPG_ | want mroe? |
| 22:40.09 | RPG_ | how many do YOU want |
| 22:40.12 | a_monkey | yep |
| 22:40.16 | a_monkey | well |
| 22:40.19 | a_monkey | hmm |
| 22:40.25 | TD-Linux | what's different between # of cracks and cracklevels? |
| 22:40.26 | a_monkey | bout 4 more i'd say |
| 22:40.35 | RPG_ | cracks is the amound of lines coming out of the center |
| 22:40.36 | *** mode/#bzflag [-c] by JeffM2501 |
| 22:40.47 | a_monkey | i thought that was always 5 |
| 22:41.00 | RPG_ | cracklevel is amonnt of cracks that come out of the main 8 |
| 22:41.04 | RPG_ | what/s -c? |
| 22:41.56 | JeffM2501 | no crap |
| 22:42.05 | TD-Linux | :) |
| 22:42.08 | RPG_ | heh |
| 22:42.15 | RPG_ | wtf? |
| 22:42.26 | RPG_ | i ocmpiled bz yesterday fine |
| 22:42.35 | RPG_ | today, same code, 1 change...i'm seeing so many errors |
| 22:42.48 | TD-Linux | try changing it back |
| 22:42.50 | TD-Linux | first |
| 22:42.53 | RPG_ | it won't top compining errors |
| 22:42.57 | RPG_ | it's nowhere in the file i thoucked |
| 22:43.09 | RPG_ | man |
| 22:43.16 | RPG_ | i'm anxious to see how many errors i have |
| 22:43.17 | a_monkey | that's unexplainable to me |
| 22:43.31 | RPG_ | it's still compiling despite that it will nver succeed |
| 22:43.35 | *** join/#bzflag PrezKennedy (n=MK@pcp0011645240pcs.aberdn01.md.comcast.net) |
| 22:43.50 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/ (7 files in 7 dirs): update default plugins with new team enums and #defs |
| 22:44.14 | TD-Linux | what does CIA-3 do? |
| 22:44.15 | RPG_ | crap |
| 22:44.22 | RPG_ | that means i probably gotta do some work too |
| 22:44.35 | RPG_ | it tells the IRC monkeys when something is commited to CVS |
| 22:44.43 | RPG_ | STOP COMPILING!!!! |
| 22:44.48 | RPG_ | YOU"LL NEVER MAKE ANYTHING!!! |
| 22:44.58 | RPG_ | </anger> |
| 22:45.03 | TD-Linux | isn't VC++ so wonderful like you said? |
| 22:45.10 | RPG_ | i want to see how namy errors i got |
| 22:45.16 | RPG_ | it's all in GL.h |
| 22:45.21 | blast007 | o.O |
| 22:45.27 | blast007 | that's not good |
| 22:45.32 | RPG_ | Build: 5 succeeded, 10 failed, 0 skipped |
| 22:45.40 | RPG_ | oh s*it |
| 22:45.48 | RPG_ | bzflag - 6974 error(s), 0 warning(s) |
| 22:45.52 | blast007 | lol |
| 22:45.55 | TD-Linux | hmm, jeffm2501 fixed the bug already that I made a hack to fix? |
| 22:46.00 | TD-Linux | by CIA-3 |
| 22:46.07 | RPG_ | that's bad |
| 22:46.10 | RPG_ | bad bad bad |
| 22:46.29 | blast007 | TD-Linux: It's not _that_ bad ;) |
| 22:47.22 | RPG_ | make the plugin accept a file full of insults |
| 22:47.29 | RPG_ | separated by a "\n" |
| 22:47.31 | TD-Linux | hmmmm |
| 22:47.36 | TD-Linux | sounds good |
| 22:47.54 | RPG_ | then fix all of my 6000-some errors |
| 22:48.00 | TD-Linux | sounds bad |
| 22:48.09 | RPG_ | more like 7,000 |
| 22:48.09 | blast007 | RPG_: what was the first error? |
| 22:48.16 | TD-Linux | I'm guessing that a file was missing |
| 22:48.31 | RPG_ | the first one in which project? |
| 22:48.35 | RPG_ | common - common - 141 error(s), 0 warning(s) |
| 22:48.48 | RPG_ | 3D - 510 error(s), 0 warning(s) |
| 22:48.58 | blast007 | is this code recent? |
| 22:49.04 | RPG_ | game - 304 error(s), 60 warning(s) |
| 22:49.06 | RPG_ | yesterday |
| 22:49.15 | TD-Linux | mine 2 days ago |
| 22:49.17 | RPG_ | ...but it compiled yesterday! |
| 22:49.17 | TD-Linux | mine perfect |
| 22:49.25 | RPG_ | scene - 306 error(s), 0 warning(s) |
| 22:49.29 | RPG_ | platform - 1 error(s), 0 warning(s) |
| 22:49.29 | blast007 | I'll see if mine works...just did a checkout about 30 minutes ago |
| 22:49.46 | TD-Linux | so that your sandbox is a mirror of the CVS one |
| 22:49.55 | RPG_ | mediafile - 3 error(s), 0 warning(s) |
| 22:50.01 | RPG_ | a mirror |
| 22:50.24 | RPG_ | haha g:\Programs\Visual Studio C++\Vc7\PlatformSDK\Include\gl\GL.h(1167) |
| 22:50.30 | RPG_ | it's not even a BZ file |
| 22:50.40 | RPG_ | geometry - 4080 error(s), 0 warning(s) |
| 22:50.54 | TD-Linux | as I said, delete your sandbox and create a new one |
| 22:50.55 | blast007 | maybe your platform SDK is getting screwed up, but I'll see if mine works |
| 22:51.08 | TD-Linux | download everything from cvs |
| 22:51.14 | TD-Linux | compile from scratch |
| 22:51.28 | RPG_ | a total of 12,178 errors |
| 22:51.28 | RPG_ | wow |
| 22:51.38 | RPG_ | it is my platform SDK |
| 22:51.41 | RPG_ | i just defragged |
| 22:51.50 | TD-Linux | what your defragger? |
| 22:51.56 | RPG_ | the MS one |
| 22:52.01 | TD-Linux | no wonder |
| 22:52.33 | blast007 | my defrag doesn't murder my hard drive... |
| 22:52.48 | RPG_ | mine doens't either |
| 22:52.50 | RPG_ | ususally |
| 22:52.53 | RPG_ | i run it alot |
| 22:52.57 | JeffM2501 | RPG_, your include dirs arn't set right |
| 22:53.05 | RPG_ | but i havn't touche dit |
| 22:53.17 | JeffM2501 | still, check them |
| 22:53.27 | JeffM2501 | make sure they have all your stuff, including your plat SDK |
| 22:53.45 | JeffM2501 | TD-Linux, what does a defrag utitlity have to do with openGL? |
| 22:54.05 | blast007 | he's just saying it probably destroyed the files |
| 22:54.09 | blast007 | which is unlikely |
| 22:54.20 | blast007 | unless the PC locked up during the defrag |
| 22:54.20 | TD-Linux | very unlikely |
| 22:54.23 | RPG_ | it didn't |
| 22:54.26 | RPG_ | i'm reading GL.h right now |
| 22:54.28 | a_monkey | oh. there's one more thing i'd like to do: have the cracks start branching off earlier |
| 22:54.34 | JeffM2501 | your registry entrys are just jacked |
| 22:54.36 | a_monkey | hmm |
| 22:54.40 | JeffM2501 | probalby from your older failed install |
| 22:54.47 | blast007 | RPG_: but really, you shouldn't have to defrag all that often |
| 22:54.50 | JeffM2501 | just go check your paths in VC |
| 22:54.51 | RPG_ | but i copmiled BZ on the new install yesterday |
| 22:54.56 | RPG_ | i try to do it 1ce a month |
| 22:55.00 | RPG_ | i am |
| 22:55.05 | RPG_ | they look fine |
| 22:55.15 | RPG_ | PlatformSDK\include |
| 22:55.18 | blast007 | RPG_: I do it once every 6 months if I'm lucky ;) |
| 22:55.22 | RPG_ | heh |
| 22:55.53 | RPG_ | well my old Dell crashed, and when they replaced my HD, they said ti was because i didn't defrad |
| 22:55.54 | JeffM2501 | RPG_, pastebin all the stuff in your paths |
| 22:56.00 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/plugins/doc/ (events.html functions.html): update docs with new team enums |
| 22:56.11 | JeffM2501 | RPG_, that would be tier3 support blowing smoke up your ass |
| 22:56.33 | RPG_ | i don't like that feeling |
| 22:56.40 | blast007 | :) |
| 22:56.44 | JeffM2501 | then learn about your computer |
| 22:56.52 | JeffM2501 | and don't blindly trust the blind |
| 22:57.45 | RPG_ | http://pastebin.com/337831 |
| 22:57.51 | RPG_ | those are th einclude paths |
| 22:58.06 | RPG_ | heres a error: |
| 22:58.06 | RPG_ | g:\Programs\Visual Studio C++\Vc7\PlatformSDK\Include\gl\GL.h(1169) : error C2501: 'WINGDIAPI' : missing storage-class or type specifiers |
| 22:58.16 | RPG_ | here's the line: |
| 22:58.16 | RPG_ | WINGDIAPI void APIENTRY glColor3b (GLbyte red, GLbyte green, GLbyte blue); |
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| 23:05.34 | blast007 | and the include paths look fine |
| 23:05.35 | PrezKennedy | OMG better defrag this thing havent done that in months and months |
| 23:05.58 | RPG_ | it does speed up yoru computer |
| 23:06.09 | ToughShooter | it can also slow it down |
| 23:06.17 | RPG_ | how? |
| 23:06.34 | ToughShooter | in changing the position of the file on the harddrive |
| 23:06.46 | RPG_ | but it changes them so their contiginous |
| 23:06.56 | RPG_ | so it's faster for your HD to read |
| 23:07.07 | ToughShooter | it depends on what needs to be in one piece |
| 23:07.08 | PrezKennedy | depends on the file's location on the disk too |
| 23:07.33 | ToughShooter | hot file clustering should be enough, IMHO |
| 23:07.40 | blast007 | I thought that the newer defrag places commonly used files in areas with faster read speeds |
| 23:07.55 | silverfox | blast007, supposed to. |
| 23:08.53 | JeffM2501 | RPG_, you are not including windows.h before your openGL |
| 23:09.00 | ToughShooter | defrag programms often don't know enough about a computers configuration. if you do dual-boot it could slow the other OS down etc |
| 23:09.29 | RPG_ | it only defrags one partition at a time |
| 23:09.29 | blast007 | um, but the other OS is on another partition |
| 23:09.54 | ToughShooter | well, it can |
| 23:10.32 | ToughShooter | defragmenting is mostly placebo effect, at least in my case |
| 23:10.59 | RPG_ | ~"placebo effect" |
| 23:11.08 | RPG_ | ~placebo effect |
| 23:11.11 | blast007 | for people that create and delete files, and install and uninstall software, all the time, it can make a big difference |
| 23:11.31 | RPG_ | someitmes i browse SF just for thrills |
| 23:11.32 | PrezKennedy | i havent done a defrag since i installed windows xp in july |
| 23:11.37 | PrezKennedy | so i think its due |
| 23:11.40 | RPG_ | heh |
| 23:12.54 | TD-Linux | defrags speed up my system |
| 23:13.08 | TD-Linux | especially when I haven't done it for a year ;) |
| 23:13.52 | JeffM2501 | RPG_, where is your gl being included from? |
| 23:14.01 | RPG_ | i closed the window |
| 23:14.04 | RPG_ | but i'll get it |
| 23:14.11 | JeffM2501 | what were you building? |
| 23:14.14 | RPG_ | g:\Programs\Visual Studio C++\Vc7\PlatformSDK\Include\gl\GL.h(1169) : error C2501: 'WINGDIAPI' : missing storage-class or type specifiers |
| 23:14.17 | RPG_ | bzflag |
| 23:14.30 | JeffM2501 | is that the very first error? |
| 23:14.38 | JeffM2501 | and what bzflag cxx file was it on? |
| 23:14.42 | RPG_ | there were so many i couldn't find the first one |
| 23:14.48 | JeffM2501 | ok |
| 23:14.53 | JeffM2501 | then that error is meaningless |
| 23:15.00 | RPG_ | they were giving those errors at about every file it was compiling |
| 23:15.03 | JeffM2501 | check the build log |
| 23:15.08 | JeffM2501 | do you have windows.h? |
| 23:15.11 | RPG_ | yes |
| 23:15.18 | JeffM2501 | is it in the system include path? |
| 23:16.03 | blast007 | well, my bzfs didn't build |
| 23:16.07 | blast007 | 3 errors |
| 23:16.21 | JeffM2501 | link errors? |
| 23:16.29 | JeffM2501 | about world building? |
| 23:16.31 | blast007 | bzfs.obj : error LNK2019: unresolved external symbol "class WorldInfo * __cdecl defineRandomWorld(void)" (?defineRandomWorld@@YAPAVWorldInfo@@XZ) referenced in function "bool __cdecl defineWorld(void)" (?defineWorld@@YA_NXZ) |
| 23:16.37 | JeffM2501 | yeah you have old code |
| 23:16.40 | blast007 | k |
| 23:16.41 | JeffM2501 | your missing a file |
| 23:16.45 | blast007 | ah, ok |
| 23:16.47 | JeffM2501 | I fixed that this afternoon |
| 23:16.59 | JeffM2501 | worldgenerators.h/cxx was added |
| 23:17.03 | blast007 | k |
| 23:26.29 | BenUrban | TD-Linux: please don't have bzflag make on my lawn |
| 23:26.32 | BenUrban | it's impolite |
| 23:27.00 | RPG_ | another one? |
| 23:27.13 | RPG_ | you're as bored as me :D) |
| 23:27.14 | TD-Linux | which would be better: a plugin with a set of built in messages or one that reads from an external text file? |
| 23:27.23 | RPG_ | reads froma file |
| 23:27.24 | RPG_ | totaly |
| 23:27.24 | blast007 | external |
| 23:27.27 | TD-Linux | ok |
| 23:27.35 | silverfox | duh. |
| 23:27.45 | blast007 | just make sure it works for \r\n, \n, and \r ;) |
| 23:27.56 | meacan | RPG_: nah, i just havent touched c++ for ages - i found an excuse now :) |
| 23:28.00 | RPG_ | that way clean servers chould say like "We're extremely sorry you have been capped" while vader could put "F*** D**8 **** s*** g***8 s****f**** s****" |
| 23:28.04 | JeffM2501 | blast007, who does just /n? |
| 23:28.14 | blast007 | doesn't linux? |
| 23:28.16 | RPG_ | linux |
| 23:28.17 | JeffM2501 | no |
| 23:28.19 | JeffM2501 | just /r |
| 23:28.25 | RPG_ | i read linux does |
| 23:28.27 | blast007 | I think Mac OS is \r |
| 23:28.31 | RPG_ | gah |
| 23:28.32 | TD-Linux | I'll use that getline function |
| 23:28.34 | RPG_ | ^^unfinished |
| 23:28.43 | JeffM2501 | OS9 is /n |
| 23:28.46 | JeffM2501 | it's not used anymore |
| 23:28.49 | RPG_ | i read linux does \n, windows \n\are, and mac =are |
| 23:28.52 | RPG_ | \are |
| 23:29.00 | blast007 | LF == \n ? |
| 23:29.12 | TD-Linux | \n = CR |
| 23:29.16 | JeffM2501 | god I don't remember anymore |
| 23:29.22 | TD-Linux | wait, no |
| 23:29.31 | JeffM2501 | /R is a Cr |
| 23:29.31 | TD-Linux | \n == CR, LF on Windows |
| 23:29.35 | JeffM2501 | /n is a LF |
| 23:29.41 | RPG_ | can't we all just use \n |
| 23:29.46 | JeffM2501 | TD-Linux, you have no clue what you are saying so don't try to add more |
| 23:29.46 | TD-Linux | that's strange, my book said |
| 23:29.49 | JeffM2501 | RPG_, no |
| 23:29.53 | blast007 | cuz my editor had Windows (CR/LF ), Unix (LF only), and Macintosh (CR only) |
| 23:30.00 | JeffM2501 | windows is 13 10 |
| 23:30.06 | JeffM2501 | linux is 13 IIRC |
| 23:30.27 | JeffM2501 | I allways just read in the file, remove any 10's and then tok on 13 |
| 23:30.31 | TD-Linux | I know that, but my Turbo C++ book said that /n adds 13 10. C++ does change... |
| 23:30.35 | JeffM2501 | that works on anything modern |
| 23:30.46 | JeffM2501 | TD-Linux, we are not talking about fprintf |
| 23:30.55 | TD-Linux | ok |
| 23:30.57 | JeffM2501 | TD-Linux, and that is only in text mode |
| 23:31.01 | TD-Linux | ok |
| 23:31.28 | JeffM2501 | old old old mac is just 10 |
| 23:31.33 | JeffM2501 | but noone uses that anymore |
| 23:31.39 | trepan | *nix use 0x0A '\n' |
| 23:31.39 | JeffM2501 | OSX has gone to unix style |
| 23:31.47 | JeffM2501 | ok |
| 23:31.52 | JeffM2501 | so remove the 10's |
| 23:31.59 | JeffM2501 | bah |
| 23:32.07 | JeffM2501 | remove the 13's and tok on the 10's |
| 23:32.13 | JeffM2501 | that'll get ya on anything |
| 23:32.14 | TD-Linux | all os's use 13 so you can just check for that in the program, right? |
| 23:32.27 | JeffM2501 | TD-Linux, no old Mac OS uses just 10 |
| 23:32.37 | TD-Linux | oops |
| 23:32.38 | JeffM2501 | but noone cares about them |
| 23:32.43 | TD-Linux | :) |
| 23:32.53 | JeffM2501 | if you dont' filter the 10's it could screw up your parser, if it's not made well enough |
| 23:33.01 | trepan | 10 = 0x0a = \n |
| 23:33.04 | JeffM2501 | since you'll have a 10 at the start of every line |
| 23:33.13 | trepan | JeffM2501: your sre you aren't getting them swapped in your head? |
| 23:33.13 | JeffM2501 | bah /s13/10 |
| 23:33.21 | JeffM2501 | I am totaly |
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| 23:33.33 | JeffM2501 | dislexia is fun :) |
| 23:33.43 | JeffM2501 | what ever the extra one is on windows, remove that |
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| 23:33.45 | JeffM2501 | :) |
| 23:33.48 | JeffM2501 | then it's the same |
| 23:33.52 | blast007 | it's too bad they couldn't just make them all the same ;) |
| 23:33.55 | TD-Linux | good ): |
| 23:34.02 | silverfx | there I go again... |
| 23:34.03 | JeffM2501 | blast007, where would the fun in that be? |
| 23:34.23 | TD-Linux | it would lower headache pill sales |
| 23:34.32 | TD-Linux | the drug companies would sue |
| 23:34.51 | JeffM2501 | TD-Linux, umm shure whatever |
| 23:35.26 | TD-Linux | yes! make completed! |
| 23:36.46 | TD-Linux | a weird bug is in bzflag: at 320x240 the mouse can only go in the upper half of the screen |
| 23:37.00 | TD-Linux | and all resolutions below 640x480 |
| 23:37.23 | TD-Linux | not that anyone runs bzflag at that res |
| 23:37.33 | blast007 | hmm...I think mine runs fine at that res |
| 23:37.51 | JeffM2501 | it's probably his crapy window manager |
| 23:37.51 | TD-Linux | this is in Linux, never tried it on Windows |
| 23:37.59 | TD-Linux | KDE? |
| 23:38.04 | JeffM2501 | maybe |
| 23:38.05 | blast007 | TD-Linux: right, on linux |
| 23:38.07 | *** part/#bzflag RPG_ (n=G-bus@c-24-15-87-171.hsd1.il.comcast.net) |
| 23:38.11 | blast007 | you can't do 320x240 in windows :) |
| 23:38.30 | JeffM2501 | could be also a crapy video card/driver, if he's trying to run fullscreen |
| 23:38.40 | TD-Linux | savage3 card |
| 23:38.40 | JeffM2501 | TD-Linux, what video do you have? |
| 23:38.44 | JeffM2501 | ewww |
| 23:38.46 | blast007 | mine was a 2MB card ;) |
| 23:38.49 | JeffM2501 | I'm so very very sorry |
| 23:38.51 | TD-Linux | mine 8mb |
| 23:38.58 | JeffM2501 | blast007, but you probably had better drivers :) |
| 23:39.04 | *** join/#bzflag triclops (n=triclops@c220-239-40-105.rivrw7.nsw.optusnet.com.au) |
| 23:39.04 | blast007 | just mesa |
| 23:39.06 | TD-Linux | but my windows machine has PCI-E X700 |
| 23:39.13 | TD-Linux | don't feel sorry |
| 23:39.13 | JeffM2501 | like I said, better drivers |
| 23:39.17 | blast007 | hehe |
| 23:39.22 | JeffM2501 | TD-Linux, don't you mean your dads windows machine? |
| 23:39.29 | TD-Linux | yes, that's what I mean |
| 23:39.32 | blast007 | lol |
| 23:39.38 | TD-Linux | this Linux one is kind of mine because nobody else wants it |
| 23:39.40 | JeffM2501 | the computer you can't touch? |
| 23:39.46 | TD-Linux | I can touch it! |
| 23:39.52 | JeffM2501 | then why arn't you using it? |
| 23:39.59 | TD-Linux | because it dosen't have linux |
| 23:40.06 | JeffM2501 | why haven't you installed it? |
| 23:40.11 | TD-Linux | I need PartitionMagic |
| 23:40.15 | JeffM2501 | why? |
| 23:40.24 | TD-Linux | to resize the windows partiton |
| 23:40.30 | JeffM2501 | use another drive |
| 23:40.32 | JeffM2501 | it's better |
| 23:40.37 | JeffM2501 | or live CD |
| 23:40.42 | blast007 | like....the drive in your linux box ;) |
| 23:40.46 | TD-Linux | well... two 250GB drives in RAID 1 |
| 23:40.46 | JeffM2501 | or the drive your your linux PC |
| 23:40.51 | JeffM2501 | so what? |
| 23:40.58 | JeffM2501 | dosn't mean you can't have a 3rd |
| 23:41.01 | JeffM2501 | or a 5th |
| 23:41.15 | blast007 | isn't RAID 1 mirroring? |
| 23:41.19 | TD-Linux | yes |
| 23:41.22 | blast007 | k |
| 23:41.34 | TD-Linux | i.e. if one implodes like the death star, my data is safe |
| 23:41.35 | JeffM2501 | what's on the system that needs mirror? |
| 23:41.38 | TD-Linux | nothing |
| 23:41.44 | TD-Linux | but my dad wanted it |
| 23:41.44 | blast007 | strange that a gaming-type PC doesn't have RAID 0 |
| 23:41.47 | JeffM2501 | then why does it need to be safe? |
| 23:41.51 | TD-Linux | I don't know |
| 23:42.01 | TD-Linux | we also back up onto a external hard drive |
| 23:42.03 | JeffM2501 | yeah I'd stripe for speed |
| 23:42.07 | TD-Linux | I wanted to too |
| 23:42.13 | TD-Linux | but he wouldn't let me |
| 23:42.13 | JeffM2501 | sure ya dod |
| 23:42.16 | TD-Linux | we built it ourselves |
| 23:42.24 | TD-Linux | I built it, he watched ;) |
| 23:42.25 | JeffM2501 | so you agree your access to the sytem is limited |
| 23:42.45 | TD-Linux | no, it's 100% besides doing crazy things like wiping the hard drive |
| 23:42.55 | TD-Linux | so that would be 99% |
| 23:42.59 | JeffM2501 | so put in another one |
| 23:43.03 | JeffM2501 | use a boot CD |
| 23:43.14 | TD-Linux | Knoppix Live? |
| 23:43.16 | JeffM2501 | then watch as you get some crapy ATI drivers :) |
| 23:43.56 | TD-Linux | our computer isn't a gaming PC by the way, but I managed to convince him to get X700 |
| 23:44.12 | blast007 | I'd consider that a gaming PC |
| 23:44.21 | JeffM2501 | what CPU is in it? |
| 23:44.29 | TD-Linux | 3.4GHz P4HT |
| 23:44.32 | TD-Linux | quite fast |
| 23:44.34 | JeffM2501 | oh |
| 23:44.35 | JeffM2501 | too bad |
| 23:44.37 | TD-Linux | I know |
| 23:44.41 | TD-Linux | should have gone A64 |
| 23:44.45 | TD-Linux | it gets WAY too hot |
| 23:44.52 | TD-Linux | 70 C bzflag |
| 23:45.09 | TD-Linux | board 65 C |
| 23:45.14 | blast007 | toss in an extra fan |
| 23:45.26 | TD-Linux | I have two 120mm fans and a 80mm one |
| 23:45.37 | TD-Linux | is that enough? |
| 23:46.10 | TD-Linux | plus, my dad made a cardboard piece that fits inside to direct air |
| 23:46.12 | JeffM2501 | aperantly not if it's geting to hot |
| 23:46.13 | blast007 | hmm..think my power supply has two 80mm, then I have an 80mm intake, and an 80mm exaust |
| 23:46.17 | JeffM2501 | cardboard? |
| 23:46.30 | TD-Linux | acutally, tagboard |
| 23:46.36 | TD-Linux | it works |
| 23:46.40 | TD-Linux | kindof |
| 23:47.08 | TD-Linux | there is an 80mm fan we mounted in there blowing right on the temp sensor on the motherboard |
| 23:47.14 | TD-Linux | I think that that sensor might be defective |
| 23:47.19 | TD-Linux | but the CPU gets hot also |
| 23:47.44 | blast007 | might have just been blowing all the _hot_ air on the sensor ;) |
| 23:47.58 | TD-Linux | no, there are vents that the fan sucks in from |
| 23:49.00 | blast007 | the main problem with mine is that the tower is inside a compartment, with a hinged door... |
| 23:49.13 | TD-Linux | cut off the door :) |
| 23:49.23 | TD-Linux | and drill holes in the back |
| 23:49.24 | blast007 | actually, I want to cut a hole in the back of it |
| 23:49.28 | TD-Linux | add a 120 mm fan to the back |
| 23:49.36 | blast007 | hehe, exactly :) |
| 23:49.58 | JeffM2501 | x700's arn't that much $$ are they now? |
| 23:50.01 | TD-Linux | I use a 90 mm fan I took out of a defective power supply to suck solder smoke away |
| 23:50.03 | TD-Linux | they were |
| 23:50.13 | JeffM2501 | not much more then $100 |
| 23:50.13 | TD-Linux | we got it for somewhere between $200-300 |
| 23:50.19 | TD-Linux | at newegg |
| 23:50.19 | JeffM2501 | how long ago? |
| 23:50.25 | TD-Linux | about 6 months |
| 23:50.34 | JeffM2501 | newegg overprices |
| 23:50.37 | blast007 | or I could do just like this guy: http://www.thinkgeek.com/pcmods/cases/6bd0/action/ |
| 23:50.53 | TD-Linux | they do? they seem cheap to me |
| 23:50.59 | TD-Linux | of course, /me compares to Best Buy |
| 23:51.36 | JeffM2501 | it a regular or a saphire? |
| 23:51.44 | TD-Linux | ATI brand |
| 23:51.54 | JeffM2501 | regular OR saphire? |
| 23:52.02 | TD-Linux | 256 MB Radeon X700 Pro PCI-E |
| 23:52.07 | TD-Linux | ATI |
| 23:52.15 | TD-Linux | sapphire is a manufacturer |
| 23:52.22 | TD-Linux | so no, it would be ATI |
| 23:52.28 | TD-Linux | or 'regular' |
| 23:52.35 | JeffM2501 | there ya go skip |
| 23:52.51 | JeffM2501 | it's a $150 card |
| 23:53.56 | TD-Linux | no it isn't - the ATI brand isn't in stock anymore |
| 23:54.09 | TD-Linux | it's more like $125 now |
| 23:54.26 | JeffM2501 | I wasn't looking at newegg |
| 23:54.31 | TD-Linux | oh |
| 23:54.46 | TD-Linux | I want GeForce 7800 GTX |
| 23:54.55 | JeffM2501 | just one? |
| 23:54.56 | TD-Linux | but my dad says no |
| 23:55.06 | TD-Linux | could it be the $600 price tag? |
| 23:55.14 | TD-Linux | my mobo only has 1 PCI-E slot |
| 23:55.21 | JeffM2501 | 600 isn't bad |
| 23:55.28 | JeffM2501 | you can get it down in the 500's |
| 23:55.28 | TD-Linux | yes it is |
| 23:55.32 | blast007 | I saw a 512MB 6800 for $999 :/ |
| 23:55.32 | JeffM2501 | no it's not |
| 23:55.37 | blast007 | best buy, iirc |
| 23:55.39 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 23:55.42 | TD-Linux | my dad wants to spend < $300 on video card |
| 23:55.45 | JeffM2501 | you can get those down to 800ish |
| 23:55.56 | JeffM2501 | TD-Linux, then cutting edge you will never be |
| 23:56.12 | TD-Linux | so? BZFlag graphics != cutting edge |
| 23:56.24 | JeffM2501 | there are other games out there besides BZ |
| 23:56.28 | TD-Linux | yes |
| 23:56.33 | JeffM2501 | if bz is all you want, then a GF MX will do ya |
| 23:56.37 | TD-Linux | Zoo Tycoon 2 runs slowly |
| 23:56.38 | JeffM2501 | or a little FX 5200 |
| 23:57.02 | TD-Linux | those cost about $50 on newegg |
| 23:57.11 | JeffM2501 | yeah, good cards |
| 23:57.21 | blast007 | I think 6500 is the sweet spot right now |
| 23:57.30 | TD-Linux | I would go for a GeForce 7200 right now i think |
| 23:57.44 | JeffM2501 | for AGP and moderate needs, then 5600 was a good buy |
| 23:58.17 | TD-Linux | well, I'm not going to whine about the x700 :) |
| 23:59.03 | JeffM2501 | you can get 256meg 6600s for just over $100 |
| 23:59.17 | TD-Linux | and to think we could get SLI... |
| 23:59.23 | TD-Linux | for $200 |
| 23:59.29 | JeffM2501 | only if you get a new mobo |
| 23:59.31 | TD-Linux | yes |
| 23:59.34 | TD-Linux | if I did that |
| 23:59.40 | TD-Linux | I would convince my dad to get A64 |
| 23:59.44 | JeffM2501 | what games do you play that have SLI profiles? |
| 23:59.47 | TD-Linux | none |
| 23:59.56 | JeffM2501 | then why get SLI? |