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| 00:16.41 | bz5794 | any1 here |
| 00:16.49 | bz5794 | i have a question |
| 00:17.02 | bz5794 | hold on |
| 00:30.10 | bz5794 | ? |
| 00:30.11 | bz5794 | udp and tcp connections are same as port number |
| 00:30.57 | JeffM2501 | yes they are |
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| 02:43.31 | lan56 | hey, any others devs get an email message from a one "joelee (at) axs (dot) net" (replace parenthesis with appropriate symbol) that says it is a spam filtering thing responding about an email from your sourceforge account? I ask as I know that sometimes CVS commits get sent out and when they fail to reach a person the commiter gets a response from them |
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| 03:38.05 | sc-phone | jeffm2501: any idea if they have reopened the 5? |
| 03:42.09 | JeffM2501 | it was closed? |
| 03:42.56 | sc-phone | yes. we got on 101 n of slo |
| 03:43.28 | JeffM2501 | that sucks |
| 03:43.31 | sc-phone | we are still n of sb |
| 03:43.36 | JeffM2501 | I haven't heard of anyi9n |
| 03:44.08 | sc-phone | yep but we had some yummy bbq in pismo |
| 03:44.16 | sc-phone | where are we all meeting on saturday |
| 03:44.35 | JeffM2501 | dono |
| 03:44.50 | sc-phone | ok |
| 03:45.06 | sc-phone | I am going to make a declration |
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| 03:46.14 | sc-phone | we are meeting in front of universal movie theatre at 6pm sharp |
| 03:46.39 | learner | heh, yeah right.. sharp :) *ahem* |
| 03:46.39 | sc-phone | so there |
| 03:47.07 | JeffM2501 | k |
| 03:47.20 | JeffM2501 | so by the big world thingy? |
| 03:47.29 | sc-phone | no |
| 03:47.44 | sc-phone | that's in front of the studio |
| 03:47.45 | JeffM2501 | by the movie theater in the middle? |
| 03:47.49 | sc-phone | yes |
| 03:47.57 | learner | why not at the food place |
| 03:47.58 | JeffM2501 | that's not owned by universal :) |
| 03:48.03 | learner | so we can sit down and at least drink |
| 03:48.05 | sc-phone | so |
| 03:48.17 | learner | while the stragglers show up |
| 03:48.23 | sc-phone | I made a decision didn't I? |
| 03:48.55 | sc-phone | so if they'e late have em meet us at gladstonez |
| 03:49.14 | sc-phone | grrrr . I hate typing on my phone |
| 03:51.29 | sc-phone | learner, did u decide WHICH food place yet? |
| 03:51.47 | learner | huh? |
| 03:51.58 | learner | didn't we decide on gladstones like two days ago? |
| 03:52.04 | DTRemenak | heh |
| 03:52.05 | JeffM2501 | we did |
| 03:52.18 | sc-phone | if u did, no one told ME. |
| 03:52.21 | learner | gladstones at universal even |
| 03:52.30 | sc-phone | SIGH... |
| 03:52.38 | DTRemenak | sc-phone: you were there, whether you were listening or not :) |
| 03:52.38 | learner | i swear you were here for at least part of it.. ;) |
| 03:52.39 | JeffM2501 | prety sure you were here |
| 03:52.47 | JeffM2501 | you were talking about malabu |
| 03:52.50 | JeffM2501 | and the beach |
| 03:52.53 | JeffM2501 | and the drive times |
| 03:53.04 | DTRemenak | and I think you even said something about "which gladstones" and were talking about one at sunset & pch or something |
| 03:53.15 | DTRemenak | yeah, and what JeffM2501 said. |
| 03:53.44 | learner | the maps were flying around |
| 03:53.50 | sc-phone | I last heard u deciding whether to go to gladstns, & if so, which 1 |
| 03:53.56 | learner | purple_cow chastized me for following a yahoo maps link |
| 03:54.14 | sc-phone | hehe alright alright |
| 03:54.40 | sc-phone | since u decided let's just meet AT Gladstones |
| 03:54.58 | learner | the one in malibu right? |
| 03:55.02 | learner | I'M KIDDING :) |
| 03:55.04 | DTRemenak | heh |
| 03:55.14 | sc-phone | no dtr. but I've been in & out a lot |
| 03:55.48 | learner | in one ear & out the other? |
| 03:55.56 | sc-phone | ~lart learner |
| 03:56.10 | learner | ooh, there are peanuts in here too |
| 03:57.25 | learner | weee! |
| 03:57.54 | learner | and fresh water to wash the peanuts down |
| 03:57.59 | sc-phone | wee! |
| 03:58.19 | JeffM2501 | am I going to have to seperate you 2? |
| 03:58.27 | sc-phone | yes |
| 03:58.53 | JeffM2501 | damn |
| 03:59.38 | sc-phone | hehe |
| 04:01.55 | JeffM2501 | how many do we have? |
| 04:02.01 | JeffM2501 | do we need to make a reservation? |
| 04:04.33 | sc-phone | hehe ... i'm making hubby listen to The Offspring (he prefers classical) |
| 04:04.33 | sc-phone | learner, dtr, u, cappy, scanline, me, mozul & maybe l4 |
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| 04:04.33 | sc-phone | that last 1 was L4 |
| 04:04.33 | JeffM2501 | 14? |
| 04:04.33 | sc-phone | L4m3r |
| 04:04.58 | RPG_ | and here comes the questions |
| 04:05.15 | RPG_ | how does it compile? |
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| 04:05.46 | sc-phone | hi retro! |
| 04:05.52 | retro | hey sc |
| 04:06.07 | sc-phone | how goes it? |
| 04:06.28 | retro | good. |
| 04:06.45 | retro | just rebooted my workstation after doing experiments... |
| 04:07.13 | RPG_ | hey SC does secretplace ban people for rejoing every 5 seconds? |
| 04:07.19 | sc-phone | we are still driving home. the 5 was closed at the grapevine bc of some hazmat spill or something |
| 04:07.27 | retro | ugh. |
| 04:07.32 | retro | driving home from berzerkelY? |
| 04:07.41 | sc-phone | potentially |
| 04:07.46 | sc-phone | why? |
| 04:07.51 | sc-phone | reto: y |
| 04:08.02 | sc-phone | +r |
| 04:08.11 | retro | oh, too bad. I'd have liked to have had dinner again. Next time. |
| 04:08.23 | sc-phone | yes . me too |
| 04:08.51 | sc-phone | we saw hoon this time & r actually heading back a day early |
| 04:09.04 | sc-phone | rpg: why, what happened |
| 04:09.05 | retro | Ihaven't seen hoon on secretplace in forever |
| 04:09.17 | retro | does he still play? |
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| 04:09.43 | sc-phone | rarely but we are working on him |
| 04:09.50 | RPG_ | SC: there was someone at a server I copped at who kept doing it |
| 04:09.57 | RPG_ | and just wanted to know secretplace's policy |
| 04:09.59 | sc-phone | if he doesn't move to israel |
| 04:10.09 | RPG_ | 'cause after 10 times i banned him for 10 minutes |
| 04:10.10 | retro | he can play from israel. :) |
| 04:10.24 | retro | RPG, that is appropriate in my mind |
| 04:10.40 | sc-phone | ah. could u check logs to see if he was having problems or just being a pitb? |
| 04:11.01 | RPG_ | i think he was being a pitb |
| 04:11.05 | RPG_ | whatever that is |
| 04:11.12 | RPG_ | 'cause after a few warnings he wouldn't stop |
| 04:11.13 | retro | Did he respond to messages asking him about it? |
| 04:11.16 | retro | pitb = pain in the butt |
| 04:11.16 | sc-phone | yeah, me too |
| 04:11.17 | RPG_ | nope |
| 04:11.19 | sc-phone | pain in the |
| 04:11.23 | RPG_ | he was playing fine before |
| 04:11.51 | retro | if he ignored you, and kept rejoining, especially if he did it to keep from getting killed, you did good. |
| 04:11.54 | RPG_ | then was like |
| 04:11.55 | RPG_ | "F U C" |
| 04:12.03 | retro | is that a test? |
| 04:12.07 | retro | no filters here. :) |
| 04:12.10 | RPG_ | no he said that :) |
| 04:12.12 | RPG_ | i left out the k |
| 04:12.23 | retro | well, that would be more than a 10 minute ban in my book |
| 04:12.26 | RPG_ | hope that doesn't bother any IRC ops... |
| 04:12.34 | RPG_ | it was BIYA's server though |
| 04:12.36 | retro | nah, not many kids here |
| 04:12.36 | sc-phone | I would have probably banned him for longer |
| 04:12.39 | RPG_ | swearing is ok in moderation |
| 04:13.06 | retro | oh, well, different rules for different servers. I only know secretplace. Oh, and tegans servers. |
| 04:13.11 | retro | cow something |
| 04:13.15 | retro | my mind is going |
| 04:13.17 | retro | time to leave work |
| 04:13.58 | sc-phone | sleepycows |
| 04:14.00 | RPG_ | sleepycows! |
| 04:14.04 | retro | thanks, that's it. |
| 04:14.10 | sc-phone | also for thumpers servers |
| 04:14.14 | RPG_ | that was the very first server i ever played at... |
| 04:14.24 | sc-phone | :) |
| 04:14.39 | retro | I don't remember my first, but I remember my favs. secretplace and freedomlives. |
| 04:14.48 | RPG_ | secretplace has been my #1 |
| 04:14.53 | retro | I miss freedomlives. |
| 04:14.59 | RPG_ | 'cause i can play it when teh families around |
| 04:15.00 | retro | Nid set up a great server. |
| 04:15.16 | RPG_ | i'm trying to work~ |
| 04:15.19 | sc-phone | my first was turkeymoon |
| 04:15.22 | retro | I'm trying to go home. |
| 04:15.24 | RPG_ | turkeymoon? |
| 04:16.14 | RPG_ | lol |
| 04:16.21 | retro | I never knew how much I liked hearing ST tanks jump when they were near... |
| 04:16.26 | RPG_ | i got a 5.1 system from wal mart for $50, and found out it only supported 2 channel audio |
| 04:17.02 | retro | well, I had a 4.1 system, but the subwoofer amp went out. I took it apart to try and fix it, and I'm now waiting for a replacement transistor. |
| 04:17.09 | retro | however, with the amp apart, I got NO sound. |
| 04:17.15 | RPG_ | ooh |
| 04:17.20 | RPG_ | can't you run without the amp? |
| 04:17.41 | retro | nope. My sound card only has line out. |
| 04:17.49 | retro | and these are non-trivial speakers. They need power. |
| 04:17.56 | retro | It's impressive when I turn it up. :) |
| 04:18.06 | RPG_ | i bet |
| 04:18.09 | RPG_ | i want a good 5.1 set |
| 04:18.16 | RPG_ | down the road |
| 04:18.28 | RPG_ | i hope someday BZ supports 5.1 too :D |
| 04:18.32 | retro | heh |
| 04:18.37 | retro | I'd be happy with 4 channels. |
| 04:18.55 | RPG_ | as long as it's more than 1 |
| 04:18.57 | RPG_ | *2 |
| 04:19.02 | retro | quadraphonics man. It's the new thing. groovy. |
| 04:19.05 | RPG_ | sorry got a new kayboard and still breaking in teh keys |
| 04:19.43 | retro | So, a few years back I got on a quadraphonics kick. I started to buy old 70s quadraphonics equipment, and the plan |
| 04:20.08 | retro | was to digitize old quad records and make DTS surround sound CDs. Then I found out someone has already done all the hard work |
| 04:20.36 | retro | so, I now own about 63 quadraphonic DTS CDs. Pink Floyd Wish You Were Here was originally conceived as a quad album |
| 04:20.42 | retro | It sounds great. |
| 04:20.52 | sc-phone | turkeymoon was around a loooonnnnnggggggg time ago - rt when I got married & started playing. when we got back from our trip it was gone |
| 04:20.54 | RPG_ | you mean they had 4 channel audo back then? |
| 04:21.07 | retro | yeah. they did. |
| 04:21.20 | retro | it didn't take off because it was expensive, and there were too many competing formats. |
| 04:21.26 | RPG_ | well, you'd know, retro |
| 04:21.29 | retro | 3 quad record formats, |
| 04:21.42 | retro | I'm only 40. I'm not that old. |
| 04:21.45 | retro | :) |
| 04:22.05 | RPG_ | but your nick is 'retro' :D |
| 04:22.37 | retro | true. I chose it because I like retro computing, and I also like airplanes... think retrojets or retrorockets |
| 04:23.02 | RPG_ | aha |
| 04:23.28 | retro | SC (among others) pictured me as a 'fro wearing fashion throwback. Ugh. I didn't intend that. :) |
| 04:23.35 | RPG_ | lol |
| 04:23.41 | sc-phone | hehe |
| 04:23.52 | retro | well, I'm still sticking with retro. |
| 04:24.02 | blast007 | :) |
| 04:24.07 | RPG_ | and i like RPG |
| 04:24.08 | retro | I'm taking my polyester knit three piece suit and going home. :) |
| 04:24.15 | sc-phone | actually I pictured lava lamps, bead doorways and green appliances |
| 04:24.29 | retro | SC, HAHAHA. |
| 04:24.33 | retro | I _DO_ own a lava lamp. |
| 04:24.35 | RPG_ | strange, my IRC client puts retro's name in green |
| 04:24.42 | RPG_ | SC, you're orangs |
| 04:24.44 | RPG_ | *orange |
| 04:24.50 | sc-phone | hehe |
| 04:24.51 | RPG_ | blast007 is purple |
| 04:25.02 | blast007 | noooo! I'm rogue! |
| 04:25.07 | blast007 | never purple ;) |
| 04:25.08 | retro | RPG, you don't play RPG games though. bzflag is a FPS (first person shooter) |
| 04:25.12 | RPG_ | yes |
| 04:25.14 | RPG_ | i know |
| 04:25.18 | RPG_ | do you read BZBB? |
| 04:25.22 | retro | no. |
| 04:25.26 | retro | should I |
| 04:25.27 | blast007 | Rocket Propelled Grenade |
| 04:25.27 | RPG_ | here's a link for you |
| 04:25.31 | RPG_ | ~RPG |
| 04:25.31 | ibot | Role Playing Game |
| 04:25.55 | retro | I only knew the role playing game meaning. |
| 04:26.01 | RPG_ | http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?t=4227 |
| 04:26.03 | JeffM2501 | nooe calls them that, they are called bazookas |
| 04:26.14 | JeffM2501 | or spankers |
| 04:26.18 | blast007 | America's Army does ;) |
| 04:26.18 | RPG_ | but what does a bzzooka have to do with a computer? |
| 04:26.24 | RPG_ | yep |
| 04:26.25 | sc-phone | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:26.25 | ibot | a fast-typing, mistake making, fun-loving, koolaid-drinking chick |
| 04:26.39 | retro | ibot needs a tune up. |
| 04:26.58 | RPG_ | ~RPG_ |
| 04:27.01 | RPG_ | lol |
| 04:27.13 | JeffM2501 | it only knows things you've told it |
| 04:27.49 | RPG_ | ~RPG_ is not fat |
| 04:27.49 | ibot | okay, RPG_ |
| 04:27.51 | retro | I'll need to inform ibot about the true nature of sportchick... |
| 04:27.53 | RPG_ | ~RPG_ |
| 04:27.53 | ibot | rumour has it, rpg_ is not fat |
| 04:28.02 | RPG_ | cool |
| 04:28.08 | retro | ~retro |
| 04:28.08 | ibot | it has been said that retro is SportChick's worst nightmare in the bzflag arena. |
| 04:28.15 | retro | cool |
| 04:28.17 | sc-phone | jeffm: I'm ready for a new bzbb rank |
| 04:28.19 | RPG_ | JeffM2501 what's the secret to comiling plugins? |
| 04:28.28 | RPG_ | in about 1400 posts i'll be ready too |
| 04:28.40 | RPG_ | i don't like custom ranks |
| 04:28.50 | RPG_ | i'll work my way up the ladder, darnit! |
| 04:28.51 | JeffM2501 | you open them |
| 04:28.53 | JeffM2501 | and compile them |
| 04:29.14 | RPG_ | seems simple enough |
| 04:29.24 | RPG_ | but it won't build |
| 04:29.36 | JeffM2501 | and the error is......? |
| 04:30.09 | RPG_ | g:\programs\dev-cpp\repisitories\bzflag\win32\vc71\config.h(17) : fatal error C1083: Cannot open include file: 'windows.h': No such file or directory |
| 04:30.23 | RPG_ | i'm compiling with the VSC++ beta |
| 04:30.27 | JeffM2501 | did you install the platform SDK? |
| 04:30.31 | retro | OK, I'm outta here. sc-phone, I hope you make it home soon. Good seeing you online here. |
| 04:30.38 | RPG_ | don't think so |
| 04:30.45 | JeffM2501 | you need it to build any windows app |
| 04:32.02 | blast007 | RPG: http://www.microsoft.com/msdownload/platformsdk/sdkupdate/ |
| 04:32.20 | RPG_ | aha |
| 04:32.23 | RPG_ | i was looking for that |
| 04:32.34 | JeffM2501 | you need directX too |
| 04:32.39 | RPG_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:32.43 | RPG_ | that's a pretty big range |
| 04:33.10 | RPG_ | lets see |
| 04:33.12 | blast007 | it only installs what it needs |
| 04:33.17 | blast007 | thus the range |
| 04:33.28 | blast007 | s/installs/downloads/ |
| 04:33.39 | RPG_ | crap |
| 04:33.51 | RPG_ | would the PSDK-amd64.exe only compile stuf fin 64bit? |
| 04:33.58 | RPG_ | 'cause I have an Athalon 64 |
| 04:34.21 | JeffM2501 | get the regular one |
| 04:34.23 | RPG_ | don't even know my own bus archetecure :( |
| 04:34.27 | JeffM2501 | windows isn't linux |
| 04:34.32 | JeffM2501 | it's archless |
| 04:34.32 | RPG_ | there is no regular one |
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| 04:34.54 | JeffM2501 | if you builkd for 64 no one can use it |
| 04:35.00 | RPG_ | here are my choices: |
| 04:35.00 | RPG_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:35.00 | RPG_ | PSDK-ia64.exe1418 KB |
| 04:35.00 | RPG_ | PSDK-x86.exe1294 KB |
| 04:35.07 | blast007 | x86 |
| 04:35.12 | blast007 | that's the normal one ;) |
| 04:35.25 | RatOHome | Hi. |
| 04:35.28 | RPG_ | sup |
| 04:35.33 | blast007 | hi RatOHome |
| 04:36.27 | RatOHome | I just saw a strange thing at bzflag.norang.ca (Rabbit map). Saw a static yellow line thru the map... |
| 04:36.57 | RPG_ | I knwo louman has a rotating "light beacon" coming out of the lighthouse |
| 04:37.00 | RatOHome | went to the origin and saw a 'bullet' stuck half in the ground. another player ran over it and died |
| 04:37.01 | RPG_ | maybe that's what you were seeing |
| 04:37.05 | RatOHome | nope. |
| 04:37.07 | RPG_ | LOL! |
| 04:37.08 | RatOHome | not that |
| 04:37.11 | RPG_ | did you get a screenie? |
| 04:37.40 | RatOHome | no, about 5 seconds later, it was gone. before I thought to do a screencap |
| 04:37.41 | blast007 | ah, bullets that don't move cause a line on the radar |
| 04:38.06 | blast007 | cuz it tries to do the bullet tail, but because there isn't any velocity, thus no direction, it has issues |
| 04:38.18 | RPG_ | i'd pay to see that |
| 04:38.19 | RatOHome | understood. |
| 04:40.10 | RPG_ | blast007: how does the bullet have no velocity in the first place/ |
| 04:40.12 | RPG_ | ? |
| 04:40.21 | RatOHome | I wonder if the bullet left after it's time expired or does bzfs kill anomolies like that after a while? |
| 04:40.35 | RatOHome | Aye, that be the question, lad. |
| 04:41.19 | RatOHome | the bullet seemed to stay there an awefully long time, but then again, they run pretty long on that map anyway |
| 04:41.52 | RPG_ | clients get kicked if they don't send in their endshot packets correctly |
| 04:42.18 | blast007 | 1 sec, let me find the original bug report |
| 04:42.27 | RatOHome | yes, another thing I didn't know/think to look for... and kicked/exiting playeer |
| 04:43.22 | RPG_ | we should have a contest |
| 04:43.34 | blast007 | http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=3248&atid=103248&func=detail&aid=877687 |
| 04:43.37 | RPG_ | "who can mod their client and make the strangest BZFlag sinerio" |
| 04:43.38 | RatOHome | who get the first screencap of it? |
| 04:43.43 | blast007 | supposedly it was fixed |
| 04:43.55 | RPG_ | ~spell scenerio |
| 04:44.03 | RPG_ | *scenario |
| 04:44.48 | RatOHome | Hmmm. the bug report (or fix thereto) doesn't seem to address how a bullet of 0 Vel occurs in the first place |
| 04:45.09 | RatOHome | so, norang.ca could be running an old server rev? |
| 04:45.14 | blast007 | I posted a comment on there describing in detail how it occurred in one instance |
| 04:45.55 | blast007 | doubtful, as this was back in january of 2004 |
| 04:46.06 | RatOHome | Mmm. could be. there's plenty SW flags in that map. |
| 04:46.43 | RPG_ | I don't know about you, but i've seen a decline in cheating |
| 04:46.46 | blast007 | the server is supposed to fix the speed though |
| 04:47.03 | learner | a zero velocity bullet should be allowed |
| 04:47.10 | learner | useful for mine-style games |
| 04:47.40 | RPG_ | /set _bulletVelocity (somethign like that) 0 |
| 04:47.47 | RPG_ | i did that on brad's server once |
| 04:47.49 | blast007 | yeah, but for that the shot speed would be 0 |
| 04:47.53 | blast007 | in this case, it isn't |
| 04:47.53 | RPG_ | it turned out pretty cool |
| 04:48.20 | learner | you can drive in reverse and counter a certain amount of small bullet velocity |
| 04:48.23 | RatOHome | know who runs norang.ca and what vers bzfs? |
| 04:48.43 | RPG_ | ...or drive forward and make your shots slightly faster |
| 04:49.03 | blast007 | RatOHome: they are all 2.0.x servers |
| 04:49.15 | sc-phone | rat: many of the servers have info pages onbzbb |
| 04:49.36 | RatOHome | thanks, still a bit of a newb |
| 04:50.20 | RatOHome | for the record, 2.0.2 windows client here |
| 04:51.09 | sc-phone | we are past sb now... sigh. looonnnnnggggggggggg day |
| 04:51.21 | sc-phone | been up since 3:30 am |
| 04:51.29 | blast007 | all it would really need is a check on the clients, in the radar rendering |
| 04:51.37 | blast007 | don't display a tail for 0 velocity shots |
| 04:52.57 | RPG_ | sc: it still amazes me how right with someone said "is there an admin here" at secretplace, you joined right away and said "yes, i'm here" |
| 04:53.22 | RPG_ | what type of high-tech logging feature alerts you when someone asks for an admin? |
| 04:53.53 | RatOHome | blast007:Aye, but that won't cure the fact that a "live round" is sitting there |
| 04:54.04 | sc-phone | hehe. I was at my computer & watching thee logs as I worked |
| 04:54.24 | RPG_ | sc-phone: can you see private convorsations on those logs? |
| 04:54.46 | blast007 | RatOHome: true, the shotFired() function in bzfs.cxx could use some cleaning up |
| 04:54.51 | sc-phone | yes |
| 04:55.12 | RPG_ | have you heard about Masterbot? |
| 04:55.21 | sc-phone | but I cannot tell from logs what is pm v. public |
| 04:55.24 | RPG_ | the web-based server admin tool |
| 04:55.30 | sc-phone | no - |
| 04:55.33 | RPG_ | oh |
| 04:55.40 | RPG_ | http://sf.net/projects/masterbot |
| 04:55.49 | RPG_ | its only in CVS righ tnow |
| 04:55.51 | *** part/#bzflag RPG_ (~G-bus@c-24-15-87-171.hsd1.il.comcast.net) |
| 04:55.56 | *** join/#bzflag RPG_ (~G-bus@c-24-15-87-171.hsd1.il.comcast.net) |
| 04:55.58 | RPG_ | gah! |
| 04:56.05 | blast007 | wrong button? :) |
| 04:56.19 | RPG_ | yep |
| 04:56.40 | sc-phone | rpg: will u pm me that link on bzbb or memoserv |
| 04:56.54 | RPG_ | ok |
| 04:57.18 | RPG_ | to sc-phone? |
| 04:57.41 | sc-phone | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:57.50 | sc-phone | to sportchick pls |
| 04:59.00 | RPG_ | Memo has been recorded for [SportChick] |
| 04:59.04 | sc-phone | anyone know why hubby has to change his video settings twice everytime he joins bzflag? |
| 04:59.17 | RPG_ | your conf file is being lost ? |
| 04:59.29 | sc-phone | no |
| 04:59.59 | blast007 | maybe the geometry is set in the config |
| 05:00.11 | blast007 | have him run: bzflag -geometry default |
| 05:00.13 | blast007 | one time |
| 05:00.29 | blast007 | then see if just 'bzflag' works okay |
| 05:00.30 | sc-phone | it remembers the settings but the monitor d/n correctly adjust to the proper video size during initial start up |
| 05:00.44 | RPG_ | my time has expired |
| 05:01.03 | sc-phone | blast, run that on command line? |
| 05:01.03 | *** part/#bzflag RPG_ (~G-bus@c-24-15-87-171.hsd1.il.comcast.net) |
| 05:01.07 | blast007 | yup |
| 05:01.14 | blast007 | in the bzflag directory |
| 05:02.00 | sc-phone | ok we will try thqt when we get home |
| 05:02.17 | blast007 | k |
| 05:02.34 | blast007 | other option is to hunt through the config file, and remove the 'geometry' line |
| 05:04.45 | sc-phone | ok, ty |
| 05:06.10 | RatOHome | back. In the bz protocol, am I correct that it's the client that reports that it's bullet hit someone? |
| 05:06.22 | blast007 | yup |
| 05:06.35 | blast007 | er, wait |
| 05:06.44 | JeffM2501 | y es |
| 05:06.46 | blast007 | the client that was hit reports that the shot hit them |
| 05:06.52 | blast007 | not the one that shot the bullet |
| 05:07.20 | JeffM2501 | yeah you have to say you died |
| 05:07.26 | sc-phone | jeff: which exit do we wave at? |
| 05:07.34 | JeffM2501 | exit? |
| 05:07.45 | sc-phone | on 101 |
| 05:07.52 | JeffM2501 | I'm not off the 101 |
| 05:08.04 | sc-phone | $2, |
| 05:08.09 | RatOHome | Oh, OK. So the stranded bullet could have been left by a dropped client or a glitch from an active client |
| 05:08.17 | RatOHome | or even a server glitch? |
| 05:08.24 | JeffM2501 | there are many reasons |
| 05:08.33 | JeffM2501 | sc-phone, you'd have to go down the 23 |
| 05:08.42 | sc-phone | which 101 exit is closest? we'll wave at that one |
| 05:09.05 | blast007 | RatOHome: a cheat client could have even been the reason, though it was probably another issue with SW and shot limits |
| 05:09.09 | JeffM2501 | the 23 freeway |
| 05:09.36 | JeffM2501 | in thousand oaks |
| 05:09.42 | JeffM2501 | where are you now? |
| 05:09.57 | sc-phone | santa clara ave |
| 05:10.03 | RatOHome | would this "record" feature I read about this morning capture data at a low enough level to ID what happened there? |
| 05:10.15 | JeffM2501 | where is that? |
| 05:10.25 | sc-phone | oxnard I think |
| 05:10.32 | JeffM2501 | you got distance |
| 05:10.39 | sc-phone | del norte blcd next |
| 05:11.18 | JeffM2501 | long way |
| 05:12.02 | sc-phone | sigh.. fine! depress me some more , why dontcha? |
| 05:12.06 | JeffM2501 | sorry |
| 05:12.11 | sc-phone | now in camarillo |
| 05:12.46 | sc-phone | 13 miles to 1000 oaks |
| 05:12.46 | RatOHome | you guys havin' some kinda bz nerd git-together in Cali today? |
| 05:13.19 | blast007 | RatOHome: no idea, it might, but the server would have to be configured to let you record |
| 05:13.32 | sc-phone | no - i'm just driving home after a long detour |
| 05:14.46 | *** join/#bzflag FoolishMortal (~180c1fe8@webchat.bzflag.bz) |
| 05:14.54 | FoolishMortal | hey |
| 05:15.00 | blast007 | hello |
| 05:15.13 | FoolishMortal | can someone tell me the where BZFlag is installed by default |
| 05:15.20 | blast007 | Windows? |
| 05:15.25 | FoolishMortal | linux |
| 05:15.37 | FoolishMortal | i just dont know where it went after i installed the package |
| 05:15.37 | blast007 | suppose that would depend on the distro then |
| 05:15.47 | blast007 | locate bzflag |
| 05:15.50 | FoolishMortal | im running Slack 10.1 |
| 05:15.50 | blast007 | (as a terminal command) |
| 05:16.30 | FoolishMortal | is it supposed to be a .svgz file |
| 05:16.47 | blast007 | that wouldn't be it |
| 05:16.49 | blast007 | doesn't have an extension |
| 05:17.47 | FoolishMortal | thats the only one it shows |
| 05:18.28 | *** join/#bzflag bz2725 (~44d8bb29@webchat.bzflag.bz) |
| 05:18.45 | RatOHome | eh, a Scalable Vector Graphics file wouldn't an executable |
| 05:19.05 | blast007 | /usr/bin/bzflag for my slackware 9.1 box |
| 05:19.21 | FoolishMortal | thanks, ill look there real quick |
| 05:19.24 | blast007 | that was 1.10.4 |
| 05:19.29 | JeffM2501 | sc your coming into thousand oaks |
| 05:19.42 | RatOHome | FoolishMortal: did you try the locate command 007 mentioned? |
| 05:19.45 | bz2725 | i have a question |
| 05:19.53 | blast007 | bz2725: ask away |
| 05:19.53 | bz2725 | when making a server |
| 05:20.06 | bz2725 | do u use client ip address |
| 05:20.13 | bz2725 | or server ip address |
| 05:20.26 | FoolishMortal | thankyou blast007 |
| 05:20.29 | FoolishMortal | thats where it is |
| 05:20.34 | blast007 | FoolishMortal: cool, np |
| 05:20.41 | blast007 | bz2725: use them for what? |
| 05:20.55 | bz2725 | opening/ making a server |
| 05:20.57 | blast007 | for -publicaddr ? |
| 05:21.05 | bz2725 | yes yes |
| 05:21.21 | blast007 | you use your outside IP address |
| 05:21.29 | bz2725 | which would be |
| 05:21.34 | bz2725 | ? |
| 05:21.36 | blast007 | a.k.a. the one assigned to your internet connection |
| 05:21.56 | blast007 | http://www.viewmyip.com/ |
| 05:22.27 | bz2725 | i can't get my seerver online |
| 05:22.34 | bz2725 | server |
| 05:22.39 | RatOHome | beat me, 007. I was googling an IP finder |
| 05:22.53 | blast007 | your IP is 68.216.187.41, which resolves to proxy1-jan.integrity.com |
| 05:23.08 | bz2725 | how did u |
| 05:23.12 | bz2725 | do that |
| 05:23.22 | blast007 | I decoded the hex IP from when you joined |
| 05:23.40 | RatOHome | you running the server on the same computer you're chatting on now? |
| 05:23.46 | bz2725 | yes |
| 05:23.57 | blast007 | the 'proxy' is probably the problem |
| 05:24.03 | bz2725 | oh |
| 05:24.23 | blast007 | try using -publiclist "http://my.bzflag.org:81/db/" |
| 05:24.27 | blast007 | iirc |
| 05:24.47 | blast007 | that will bypass some web proxies |
| 05:25.10 | bz2725 | build what |
| 05:25.24 | bz2725 | there's a blank |
| 05:25.39 | blast007 | build? |
| 05:25.55 | bz2725 | blank: |
| 05:26.12 | bz2725 | there is a space that says build: |
| 05:26.20 | bz2725 | what do i put |
| 05:26.30 | blast007 | I never said anything about 'build' |
| 05:26.36 | bz2725 | oh nevermind |
| 05:26.47 | bz2725 | hold on let me try something |
| 05:28.34 | sc-phone | jeff: hubby said to tell u his old college roommate (& coworker lives near you) |
| 05:29.15 | bz2725 | hello |
| 05:29.24 | bz2725 | when u put -publicaddr |
| 05:29.33 | bz2725 | what comes next |
| 05:29.39 | bz2725 | ip address |
| 05:29.40 | bz2725 | then |
| 05:29.41 | bz2725 | ? |
| 05:29.46 | bz2725 | or nothing |
| 05:29.50 | RatOHome | the IP addres, that's all |
| 05:29.54 | bz2725 | k |
| 05:30.08 | bz2725 | the ibot still gives me error |
| 05:30.11 | blast007 | -publicaddr "your.host.com:port" |
| 05:30.19 | sc-phone | ~secretplace |
| 05:30.27 | RatOHome | sorry, forgot that last part |
| 05:30.37 | blast007 | where 'port' is the port (only needed if you use a non-standard port) |
| 05:30.40 | bz2725 | i dont have your.host.com:port |
| 05:30.49 | bz2725 | "your.host.com |
| 05:30.50 | bz2725 | " |
| 05:30.55 | blast007 | and your.host.com is your IP address or your hostname |
| 05:31.00 | bz2725 | k |
| 05:31.04 | sc-phone | ~bzf |
| 05:31.08 | bz2725 | that's what i did |
| 05:31.13 | bz2725 | dont work |
| 05:31.16 | bz2725 | still |
| 05:31.35 | sc-phone | ~bzf bzflag.secretplace.us:5355 |
| 05:31.35 | blast007 | are your ports open and forwarded on your router, if you have one? |
| 05:31.44 | bz2725 | i dont have a router |
| 05:31.52 | bz2725 | let me check my ports |
| 05:32.02 | blast007 | k, then are the ports on your firewall open (again, if you have one) |
| 05:32.34 | bz2725 | i have to reconnect |
| 05:32.35 | sc-phone | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:32.48 | bz2725 | hold on |
| 05:33.32 | sc-phone | cya later ... gonna go check sp |
| 05:34.07 | *** join/#bzflag bz8813 (~44d8bb27@webchat.bzflag.bz) |
| 05:34.16 | bz8813 | its me again |
| 05:34.25 | bz8813 | guy with the ports |
| 05:34.37 | RatOHome | I'm thinking the integrity.com proxy deal might be the culprit |
| 05:34.47 | blast007 | different IP now too |
| 05:34.58 | bz8813 | what |
| 05:35.00 | blast007 | bz8813: what kind of a connection are you on? |
| 05:35.00 | bz8813 | ????? |
| 05:35.06 | blast007 | your IP changed |
| 05:35.06 | bz8813 | dialup |
| 05:35.07 | RatOHome | it's a "filtered ISP"? |
| 05:35.20 | bz8813 | well help me out what do i do |
| 05:35.21 | blast007 | ick...and you want to run a server? |
| 05:35.25 | *** join/#bzflag bzflagwiz (~wiz@12-226-166-68.client.mchsi.com) |
| 05:35.31 | bz8813 | to teach my cousin |
| 05:35.36 | bz8813 | and my friend |
| 05:35.41 | bz8813 | not for me |
| 05:35.57 | RatOHome | you guys too far apart to use a LAN for that?? |
| 05:35.58 | blast007 | did you try the -publiclist thing? |
| 05:36.33 | bz8813 | no |
| 05:36.38 | bz8813 | what's that |
| 05:37.04 | bz8813 | comes after that |
| 05:37.17 | blast007 | IP is 68.216.187.39 now and also, the ports are closed, sooo....it won't work anyway |
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| 05:37.33 | bz8813 | tell me how to open the ports |
| 05:37.36 | bz8813 | please |
| 05:37.44 | bz8813 | :( |
| 05:37.47 | blast007 | then again, that might just be the web proxy's IP, so I can't tell if you have another one |
| 05:37.48 | RatOHome | don't think you can. You're at the mercy of your ISP |
| 05:37.56 | bz8813 | tell me |
| 05:38.08 | bz8813 | i dislike my isp |
| 05:38.18 | RatOHome | you should |
| 05:38.25 | bz8813 | no kidding |
| 05:38.25 | blast007 | BellSouth |
| 05:38.32 | bz8813 | bellsouth what |
| 05:38.44 | christof83 | When I run the configure script and it says SDL bzadmin bzflag client, does it mean those are the things that will be compiled? |
| 05:38.48 | blast007 | that's who the IP is registered to |
| 05:38.59 | bz8813 | oh |
| 05:39.11 | bz8813 | so each time i connect |
| 05:39.16 | RatOHome | bet it's sub-let to this integrity.com outfit |
| 05:39.24 | blast007 | probably |
| 05:39.26 | bz8813 | ihave to change my ip |
| 05:39.32 | bz8813 | for the server |
| 05:40.11 | blast007 | right, or get a dynamic DNS hostname from http://www.no-ip.com/ or http://www.dnsdns.org |
| 05:40.36 | blast007 | then you can put something like something.game-host.org |
| 05:40.48 | blast007 | or slowserver.no-ip.com |
| 05:40.58 | bz8813 | haha |
| 05:41.31 | bz8813 | ? |
| 05:41.33 | bz8813 | its free right |
| 05:41.39 | blast007 | yeah |
| 05:41.48 | blast007 | but if that is infact a proxy, you won't be able to accept incomming connections anyway |
| 05:41.48 | bz8813 | walk me though |
| 05:41.50 | bz8813 | ? |
| 05:41.52 | blast007 | the IP will be shared with multiple users |
| 05:41.52 | bz8813 | please |
| 05:41.55 | blast007 | gah |
| 05:42.04 | christof83 | its dyndns.org |
| 05:42.14 | christof83 | not dnsdns |
| 05:42.17 | blast007 | er, yeah, typo ;) |
| 05:42.47 | christof83 | i like the kicks-ass.org hostname |
| 05:42.53 | blast007 | :) |
| 05:44.03 | RatOHome | looks like integrity.com, in Jackson, MS has only a /8 sub-assignment. plus they're a "filtered" ISP. |
| 05:44.32 | blast007 | yeah, I doubt it too :) |
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| 05:45.54 | RatOHome | wonder how old he/she is. |
| 05:46.21 | RatOHome | might be a good thing his Mom/Dad use a filtered ISP... who knows |
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| 05:47.19 | RatOHome | although you can't get much more clean-cut than bzflag as far as computer games go. |
| 05:54.28 | RatOHome | so, any of you fellers that are still awake think the "zero velocity bullet" oughta be reopened as a bug? |
| 05:55.28 | blast007 | can it be reproduced? |
| 05:55.47 | blast007 | either way, I think it's buggy |
| 05:56.24 | *** part/#bzflag ibunny (~alex@jolie.active.supporter.pdpc) |
| 05:56.42 | RatOHome | heh. sure. I'm a veteran of intermittent, infrequent bugs. And they're a certified bitch. |
| 05:56.47 | blast007 | the hard part is that the client that causes the zero velocity bullet doesn't see it like that.. |
| 05:56.51 | blast007 | they usually see the SW (if that's what is cause it) |
| 05:56.55 | blast007 | causing* |
| 05:59.16 | blast007 | hmm, /setgroup seems to be broken in the latest CVS |
| 05:59.30 | blast007 | says the name cannot be found, even though it's my _own_ name |
| 06:04.37 | RatOHome | can't help you on that last bit. |
| 06:07.10 | RatOHome | SW is the only shot type that has zero net velocity? |
| 06:07.49 | blast007 | it's possible to make zero velocity bullets with othe flags too, if the BZDB variables are set certain ways |
| 06:08.02 | blast007 | ex, you could even set _shotSpeed to 0 ;) |
| 06:08.32 | blast007 | or make the tank fast enough that driving in full reverse counter-acts the forward thrust of the bullet |
| 06:08.37 | RatOHome | yes, but very unlikely on the map in question, but a good point |
| 06:09.07 | blast007 | yeah, for normal servers, only SW |
| 06:09.22 | RatOHome | Mmmm. might be on to something there. |
| 06:09.41 | RatOHome | that map has mucho bizarre settings, IMO |
| 06:10.05 | RatOHome | maybe not mucho, but suspect? |
| 06:10.15 | blast007 | could be |
| 06:14.54 | RatOHome | thing that keeps buggin me about this one is, it persisted a long time. Upwards of 20 seconds. I believe that's longer than the shot time in that map. |
| 06:15.29 | blast007 | yeah, the longest it should be there is _reloadTime, iirc |
| 06:15.51 | RatOHome | right. then again, my sense of time is skewed when playing bz |
| 06:16.05 | blast007 | ;) |
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| 06:25.11 | erik-k | JeffM2501 - are you there? I've got a problem and several people said you're the one to ask about it. |
| 06:26.41 | blast007 | what kind of problem? Others here might be able to help as well |
| 06:27.03 | erik-k | OK... |
| 06:27.12 | erik-k | I'm setting up map with lots and lots of world weapons |
| 06:27.37 | erik-k | But many of the bullets simply disappear rather than run their full trajectory and detonate |
| 06:27.46 | erik-k | What's going on? |
| 06:28.06 | blast007 | hmm, there may be a limit to how many bullets can exist at one point in time |
| 06:28.12 | blast007 | I can check in the code |
| 06:28.32 | erik-k | I'm beginning to wonder - because the more bullets are fired, the shorter the distance they get before disappearing |
| 06:29.40 | blast007 | that's most likely the issue |
| 06:29.45 | erik-k | If you want, that'd be great - I wouldn't have a clue where to start :P |
| 06:30.18 | blast007 | yup, there is a define of _MAX_WORLD_SHOTS |
| 06:30.31 | blast007 | #define _MAX_WORLD_SHOTS 30 |
| 06:30.51 | erik-k | In what file should I redefine it as a very, very large number? |
| 06:31.08 | blast007 | WorldWeapons.h |
| 06:31.14 | erik-k | Thanks a million! |
| 06:31.26 | blast007 | hmm...wonder if the client uses that value too, or it it is dynamic |
| 06:31.47 | blast007 | seems like just the server uses it |
| 06:31.50 | blast007 | so it should work fine |
| 06:32.01 | erik-k | I hope the client doesn't use a value called _MAX_WORLD_SHOTS... :) |
| 06:32.15 | blast007 | however, just know that lots of world weapons can cause lag |
| 06:32.23 | blast007 | each shot is sent to each client ;) |
| 06:32.33 | erik-k | Ah..oh crap |
| 06:32.58 | erik-k | Must... get out from under this 256K upstream limit... |
| 06:33.09 | erik-k | Must... escape to Fiber-land... :) |
| 06:33.12 | blast007 | hehe |
| 06:33.43 | erik-k | I'm planning on having an average of 5 or 10 shots active at any given time |
| 06:34.14 | blast007 | hmm, I think the limit of 30 is active shots, but I could be wrong |
| 06:34.43 | erik-k | Now that I think about it, 30 is in line with what I was seeing |
| 06:34.57 | erik-k | brb |
| 06:35.01 | trepan | WorldPlayer.cxx: int shotNum = int(newShot->getShotId() & 255); |
| 06:35.55 | trepan | 0xFF would be preferred for bitwise ops |
| 06:36.06 | erik-k | Does that mean there's a hard limit of 255 shots? |
| 06:36.31 | blast007 | ah, wasn't thinking about that |
| 06:37.06 | erik-k | Well, I hope that my map won't have more than 255 at any given moment |
| 06:37.31 | erik-k | But in light of this, how on earth does the BZflag Olympics server manage with what must be hundreds of shots? |
| 06:38.02 | blast007 | 255 shots per playerid |
| 06:38.20 | erik-k | m'kay, that I can live with :) |
| 06:38.23 | blast007 | the 'server' has a reserved playerid |
| 06:39.36 | *** part/#bzflag JeffM2501 (~jeffm@JeffM2501.sustaining.supporter.pdpc) |
| 06:40.16 | blast007 | anyway, I think I'll go to sleep now, g'night ;) |
| 06:40.21 | erik-k | Well, now I know what to change after I finish writing my map |
| 06:40.27 | erik-k | Thanks a million for the help, blast007 |
| 06:40.30 | blast007 | np |
| 06:41.17 | erik-k | And for the info about the 255/player from trepan, too - thanks a million |
| 06:41.28 | erik-k | Time to finish writing the map - bye everybody |
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| 12:06.32 | CBG | How do you folk like the idea of multiple rabbits? |
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| 12:38.46 | menotume | rabbits multiply too quickly |
| 12:39.10 | menotume | if you allow 2, soon there will be 1000 |
| 12:40.33 | CBG | menotume: you would make it a server setting... |
| 12:43.04 | CBG | maybe like a percentage, so 25% would mean 1 in every 4 players is a rabbit... |
| 12:43.33 | CBG | well - there are different ways to do it... |
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| 12:48.15 | CBG | heh |
| 12:48.30 | CBG | *blame :/ |
| 12:49.34 | Grumbler | too early for big decisions |
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| 16:00.00 | RPG_ | hi |
| 16:00.11 | RPG_ | anyone in the mood for a feature request? |
| 16:02.01 | cods | hmm, he's back (on my server at least): PlaceHolder: I ALWAYS WIN!!!! |
| 16:02.14 | RPG_ | ~secretplace |
| 16:02.30 | RPG_ | ~logs |
| 16:02.30 | ibot | hmm... logs is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23bzflag/, or stats http://ibot.rikers.org/stats/bzflag.html.gz |
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| 16:36.14 | JeffM2501 | why would he ask for a feature then quit? |
| 16:37.56 | bryjen | he asked if he could ask, and nobody answered |
| 16:38.04 | JeffM2501 | heh |
| 16:39.39 | JeffM2501 | DTRemenak, how close is your release |
| 16:39.40 | JeffM2501 | ? |
| 16:45.30 | blast007 | hmm...with the latest CVS, the "Global login approved" message occurs before all other server messages.. |
| 16:46.21 | blast007 | so now as the last message, it says to "/identify" |
| 16:47.24 | purple_cow | JeffM2501: we're doing citiwalk, right? |
| 16:47.46 | purple_cow | :) |
| 16:50.00 | JeffM2501 | purple_cow, yes |
| 16:50.21 | JeffM2501 | be warned that I may ask to pick your brain |
| 16:50.46 | JeffM2501 | about puting a linux comptuter in an airplane |
| 16:51.33 | bryjen | penguins don't fly ;) |
| 16:51.46 | JeffM2501 | with enough thrust... everything flys |
| 16:51.54 | ruskie | yup |
| 16:52.11 | ruskie | not far or for long... |
| 16:52.12 | ruskie | but it does |
| 16:52.17 | JeffM2501 | wondering how feasable it would be to make a totaly computer based instrument pannel for my plane |
| 16:52.27 | JeffM2501 | ruskie, depends how much thrust :) |
| 16:52.35 | JeffM2501 | 7 miles a second, it don't come down |
| 16:52.48 | purple_cow | JeffM2501: oh, it's feasable, i'd just be frightened to do it ;) |
| 16:52.56 | JeffM2501 | purple_cow, as would I slightly |
| 16:53.06 | JeffM2501 | the plane would be very small |
| 16:53.13 | JeffM2501 | and flyable sans insturments if needed |
| 16:53.36 | ruskie | JeffM2501, hmmm computer based... you acctually want to crash? |
| 16:54.31 | purple_cow | JeffM2501: doing it right would be an awesome project, but is probably more involved than you want |
| 16:55.41 | JeffM2501 | purple_cow, yeah that's what I'd do too |
| 16:56.08 | JeffM2501 | thought it would be cool to also have a usb port where you plug in a personal flash drive per pilot that had all there setings, maps and stuff |
| 16:56.23 | ruskie | flight log and such as well eh :) |
| 16:56.26 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 16:56.36 | JeffM2501 | I'm thinking it wouldn't be TOO hard |
| 16:56.37 | purple_cow | JeffM2501: that'd be sweet :) |
| 16:56.51 | JeffM2501 | just wondering what is posible with current hardware for stuff like the intrument inputs |
| 16:56.58 | JeffM2501 | is it all dooable via USB etc... |
| 16:57.02 | purple_cow | depends on your instrumentation |
| 16:57.07 | purple_cow | you'd definitely need some custom hardware |
| 16:57.11 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 16:57.46 | JeffM2501 | thought it would be cool to make up like a little USB A/D converter, then hook them to any insturment and just tell the system what thhat input means |
| 16:58.07 | JeffM2501 | there are some current computer controlled aircraft instuments now |
| 16:58.51 | purple_cow | it's probably more complicated than that |
| 16:58.56 | JeffM2501 | probably |
| 16:59.18 | rb9 | would anyone mind if I add code to bzfs to disallow '+' sign as first char of callsign ? |
| 16:59.19 | purple_cow | may need custom busses and timing that couldn't be achieved in software |
| 16:59.22 | rb9 | oops |
| 16:59.36 | JeffM2501 | be really cool if you could put wifi in it, and then use webchat to send real time video comunication to other planes :0 |
| 17:00.20 | purple_cow | heh |
| 17:00.28 | purple_cow | i was thinking satellite connection w/ google maps ;) |
| 17:00.37 | JeffM2501 | that too |
| 17:00.47 | JeffM2501 | well google world runs offline dosn't it? |
| 17:01.02 | purple_cow | though i suppose airplane maps are very different from street maps |
| 17:01.07 | JeffM2501 | they are |
| 17:01.16 | JeffM2501 | but for small small aircraft |
| 17:01.21 | JeffM2501 | a street map is better |
| 17:01.29 | JeffM2501 | so you can buzz your friends houses |
| 17:02.02 | menotume | in fact, i'll disallow @ or + as first char of callsign - unless eomone objects |
| 17:04.20 | bryjen | wouldn't wifi be kinda short-ranged for that? |
| 17:05.44 | JeffM2501 | well for flying in formation |
| 17:05.51 | JeffM2501 | I may actualy be building 2 planes |
| 17:07.50 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03bryjen * 10bzflag/src/bzfs/bzfs.cxx: don't tell the player to /identify if they're already globally verified |
| 17:08.07 | bryjen | ~spell globally |
| 17:08.27 | bryjen | ~spell globaly |
| 17:08.35 | ruskie | glibly :) |
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| 17:18.42 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03menotume * 10bzflag/ (ChangeLog src/game/PlayerInfo.cxx): Disallow '@' or '+' as first char of callsign. |
| 17:19.57 | ruskie | maybe add disallow flag names as the last few chars |
| 17:19.58 | ruskie | :) |
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| 17:49.50 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03bryjen * 10bzflag/src/game/PlayerInfo.cxx: keep callsign rules in one function |
| 17:50.49 | bryjen | that's not pointed at you, menotume. your change made me notice someone else's addition was out-of-place |
| 17:51.13 | menotume | ahhh, is ok anyway :) |
| 17:51.23 | menotume | i only looked in one place, and added it there :) |
| 17:55.25 | ToughShooter | Hmm, switching window mode two times while being connected to a server lets BZFlag crash, but not when there is no connection to a server (other that the list one). That happened to me when I compiled my own versions with ./configure and not removing the SDL-Framework included with the old boundles. :o |
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| 18:11.52 | menotume | ~boundles |
| 18:12.02 | menotume | ~spell boundles |
| 18:15.14 | amathis | hello |
| 18:18.05 | ToughShooter | I meant bundle, these folders with a special bit set in hfs(+|x)-file system |
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| 18:44.07 | ToughShooter | !weather EDDF |
| 18:44.09 | TheLastSpartan | ToughShooter: The current temperature in Frankfurt/main, Germany is 68°F (8:20 PM CEST on July 29, 2005). Conditions: Light Thunderstorm Rain. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 66°F. Wind: SSW at 14 mph (22 km/h). Pressure: 29.92 in (1013 hPa). Visibility: 7.0 miles (10.0 kilometers). UV: 0 out of 16 |
| 19:03.28 | Aribeth | !weather 30040 |
| 19:03.31 | TheLastSpartan | Aribeth: The current temperature in Cumming, Georgia (30040) is 82°F (3:00 PM EDT on July 29, 2005). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 71°F. UV: 9 out of 16 |
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| 19:31.20 | DTRemenak | JeffM2501: tupone has some more things to finish, last I heard. |
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| 20:10.37 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03dtremenak * 10bzflag/src/3D/FontManager.cxx: put back the state reset that makes underlining actually show up on the screen (on windows+nvidia at least) |
| 20:16.11 | JeffM2501 | DTRemenak, ohh I'll wait, it'll be like all bugy and stuff :) |
| 20:17.16 | DTRemenak | brlcad: what I'd really like to do is write a series of tests so bzflag can see which resets it has to do on startup |
| 20:17.37 | brlcad | it's not the reset i'm boo'ing about :) |
| 20:17.39 | DTRemenak | e.g. in this case it could draw a bit of underlined text and use GLGetPixels to see if the underlining shows up w/o reset |
| 20:17.57 | purple_cow | brlcad: you haven't left yet? aren't trains slow? :) |
| 20:18.05 | brlcad | flying out, training back |
| 20:18.08 | DTRemenak | brlcad: then, uh, what are you boo hissing about? :) |
| 20:18.23 | purple_cow | ahh |
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| 20:20.04 | DTRemenak | s/last night/this morning/ :) |
| 20:21.43 | purple_cow | yay, most important map yet |
| 20:21.44 | purple_cow | http://maps.google.com/maps?q=coffee+near+1256+W+7th+St,+Los+Angeles,+CA+90017&ll=34.047557,-118.261449&spn=0.014424,0.019427&num=10&start=0&hl=en |
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| 20:26.38 | brlcad | purple_cow: hehe |
| 20:33.22 | bryjen | 6/10 are starbucks |
| 20:34.09 | orange | in one single day of evil the starbucks corporation could take out a large chunk of the U.S. population |
| 20:35.28 | orange | are they busy? |
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| 20:35.52 | bryjen | hehe. tall buildings with shadows. hard to see |
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| 20:39.57 | ibunny | tada! |
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| 20:42.35 | ToughShooter | Hmpf, I was wrong previously. BZFlag keeps crashing but not after a certain amount of switches |
| 20:42.48 | ToughShooter | Would a crashlog be helpful? |
| 20:49.51 | purple_cow | ToughShooter: what is that? |
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| 20:53.30 | bryjen | hmm, no road map |
| 20:54.34 | ToughShooter | I'll have to travel there at least one time per week next half year :/ |
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| 21:00.09 | ibunny | so im celebrating my bday in #hug-bunny in about 1h ... will start my irc bday party... u have been invited :D |
| 21:00.12 | ibunny | haha |
| 21:02.00 | orchid | happy 21st birthday :) |
| 21:02.21 | ibunny | awwwwwwww |
| 21:02.38 | ibunny | nah no wanna be 21 again >_< |
| 21:02.46 | ibunny | 24 was THE BEST AGE |
| 21:02.51 | ibunny | so ill be 24 :D |
| 21:32.04 | menotume | ~hapbir ibunny for 24th birthday |
| 21:32.04 | ibot | ACTION sings a variant of Happy Birthday (to avoid royalty fees) to ibunny for 24th birthday |
| 21:32.24 | Aribeth | happy b'day ibunny |
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| 21:33.15 | ibunny | meno meno |
| 21:33.17 | ibunny | ari ari |
| 21:33.20 | ibunny | <3<3 |
| 21:33.55 | Tupone | DTRemenak: ? |
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| 22:30.12 | CBG | Can anyone point me to a mac support, IRC channel? |
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| 22:32.57 | Aribeth | er, dont know of one |
| 22:33.41 | CBG | Aribeth: Don't worry then. :) I found a person on #macintosh and another on #openmac |
| 22:33.57 | Aribeth | good |
| 23:13.05 | DTRemenak | Tupone: ! |
| 23:13.21 | Tupone | lag is a big problem :) |
| 23:13.26 | DTRemenak | heh |
| 23:13.32 | Tupone | I have finished |
| 23:13.45 | DTRemenak | ahh |
| 23:13.47 | DTRemenak | cool |
| 23:13.59 | Tupone | so, dunno the other, but we could follow the checklist |
| 23:14.19 | DTRemenak | can you talk to me1? he's having dns resolver issues apparently |
| 23:14.31 | DTRemenak | 2.0.2 works for him but none of the later 2.0.3's do |
| 23:14.39 | Tupone | who is? where is? |
| 23:14.44 | DTRemenak | me1, on bzbb |
| 23:14.57 | DTRemenak | see the 2.0.3b12 thread |
| 23:14.59 | Tupone | ahh, lemme see what he post |
| 23:15.13 | DTRemenak | also b10 and b11 threads iirc :) |
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| 23:21.39 | Tupone | eheh me1 is here :) |
| 23:24.50 | me1 | you just noticed that? |
| 23:25.36 | Tupone | so, you are now able to contact list server I guess |
| 23:25.47 | me1 | huh? |
| 23:25.59 | Tupone | fid server does work? |
| 23:26.02 | Tupone | find even |
| 23:26.37 | me1 | huh? find server where? |
| 23:26.59 | Tupone | are you the me1 that wrote in the bzbb ? |
| 23:27.07 | me1 | yes... so... |
| 23:27.19 | me1 | oh! |
| 23:28.00 | me1 | yes in bzflag 2.0.3 biulds i can now see server list, but i can't connect |
| 23:28.00 | Tupone | <me1> i finnaly found my hosts file(ya told me too in bzflag2.0.3b10 topic), i can see the lists in the CVS builds but i cannot connect to servers says "server not found" |
| 23:28.36 | me1 | <me1> oh! |
| 23:28.54 | Tupone | you could add some other name to the hosts file to connect :) |
| 23:29.03 | Tupone | What windows you have ? |
| 23:29.07 | me1 | 2k |
| 23:29.21 | Tupone | and how are you connected to the internet? |
| 23:29.29 | me1 | LAN |
| 23:30.23 | Tupone | a local LAN that goes to a router ? connect with cable modem or ADSL, or dialup ? |
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| 23:30.50 | me1 | how does it matter, i'm just confused here |
| 23:32.03 | czubin | ~bzfquery ellisdesign.org |
| 23:32.15 | czubin | w00t |
| 23:35.24 | purple_cow | hmm, there's no #siggraph yet :) |
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| 23:41.15 | Gnurdux | just to tell you me and sort of brad are hosting a server with the same map as the old hepcat server |
| 23:41.28 | Gnurdux | gnurdux.homelinux.net |
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| 23:52.05 | mozu1 | hello all I have question about the bzflag.bzc file |
| 23:52.24 | mozu1 | How does one comment out a line? Or does it not handle comments? |
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| 23:53.36 | Aribeth | bzc file? |
| 23:54.15 | mozu1 | the bzflag config file. (bzflag.bzc) |
| 23:54.41 | Aribeth | ohhh. use a # |
| 23:54.55 | mozu1 | ok thanks |
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| 23:58.52 | SportChick | JeffM2501: what kind of phone did you get? |
| 23:58.58 | JeffM2501 | V300 |
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| 23:59.25 | Aribeth | motarola? |
| 23:59.31 | Tupone | DTRemenak: ping |
| 23:59.42 | JeffM2501 | yes |
| 23:59.42 | SportChick | looks like it |
| 23:59.54 | Aribeth | ahh |