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| 01:40.28 | wegstar | noooo!!! |
| 01:40.37 | wegstar | anon CVS is broke again :( |
| 01:42.49 | blast007 | yup |
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| 01:44.21 | solemnwarning | hi all |
| 01:44.32 | solemnwarning | im compiling bzflag |
| 01:44.41 | solemnwarning | will it work ok without sdl? |
| 01:45.36 | blast007 | what operating system, and what compiler? |
| 01:45.53 | *** join/#bzflag Vivaldi (~Antonio@adsl-139-228.37-151.net24.it) |
| 01:45.57 | Vivaldi | it's slow |
| 01:46.13 | Vivaldi | the difference betwwen my bzflag 2.02 and 2.00 is huge |
| 01:46.18 | Vivaldi | why? |
| 01:47.24 | solemnwarning | gcc\g++ under debian |
| 01:47.37 | blast007 | on linux, I would recommend SDL |
| 01:47.53 | blast007 | not sure if the non-SDL will compile even, but you could try |
| 01:48.31 | solemnwarning | make done |
| 01:48.38 | solemnwarning | what should i install for sdl? |
| 01:48.45 | wegstar | umm |
| 01:48.50 | blast007 | SDL adds things like the ability to switch between fullscreen/window, minimize the window, etc |
| 01:48.59 | solemnwarning | make install complete |
| 01:49.06 | solemnwarning | but command bzflag not found |
| 01:49.09 | Vivaldi | how can i switch from full screen to window? |
| 01:49.17 | Vivaldi | which key? |
| 01:49.23 | blast007 | Vivaldi: I think it's F4, but I can check quick |
| 01:49.37 | Aribeth | F1 |
| 01:49.37 | solemnwarning | what package should i install for sdl? |
| 01:49.42 | Vivaldi | thx |
| 01:50.02 | blast007 | guess it's F1 |
| 01:50.08 | blast007 | F4 is minimize (iconify) |
| 01:50.23 | blast007 | solemnwarning: did configure say it couldn't find GL? |
| 01:51.19 | solemnwarning | BZFlag-2.0.2.20050725 with the following: |
| 01:51.19 | solemnwarning | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:51.19 | solemnwarning | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:51.19 | solemnwarning | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:51.19 | solemnwarning | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:51.20 | solemnwarning | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:52.26 | blast007 | okay, maybe it needs SDL then :) |
| 01:52.36 | blast007 | so there's probably an SDL devel package |
| 01:52.38 | solemnwarning | whats the name of the package? |
| 01:52.57 | blast007 | not sure, I don't run debian |
| 01:53.02 | blast007 | but, you should also get libcurl's dev package |
| 01:53.04 | solemnwarning | apt-cache search sdl gives me tons of results |
| 01:53.14 | solemnwarning | name of package? |
| 01:54.06 | solemnwarning | got libcurl |
| 01:54.16 | solemnwarning | but i dont know what the sdl package is called |
| 01:54.26 | solemnwarning | whats it called in other distros? |
| 01:54.38 | blast007 | try libsdl1.2-dev |
| 01:54.59 | blast007 | then do configure again |
| 01:55.38 | Vivaldi | guys i canot play anymore |
| 01:55.43 | Vivaldi | i used to play with 2.0 |
| 01:55.53 | Vivaldi | whit the same configs |
| 01:55.56 | Vivaldi | sdl is compiled |
| 01:56.02 | Vivaldi | it's slow |
| 01:56.07 | Vivaldi | ***slow** |
| 01:56.38 | blast007 | Vivaldi: do you still have 2.0.0? |
| 01:56.45 | Vivaldi | no |
| 01:56.46 | Vivaldi | 2.0.2 |
| 01:56.54 | Vivaldi | i used to play with the older one |
| 01:57.01 | Vivaldi | wihout any problems |
| 01:58.32 | blast007 | make sure Depth Buffer is turned On (in Options > Graphics) and try turning Off Fancy Effects (Options > Effects) |
| 01:58.44 | Vivaldi | i turned off everything |
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| 01:58.51 | Vivaldi | but depth buffer |
| 01:58.57 | Vivaldi | incredible |
| 01:59.03 | Vivaldi | audio doesn't work |
| 01:59.13 | blast007 | turning off everything can sometimes produce slower FPS |
| 01:59.14 | Vivaldi | i can't hear anything |
| 01:59.21 | Vivaldi | blast007, i know |
| 01:59.27 | Vivaldi | i tried every combination |
| 02:00.14 | Vivaldi | i tried both the compiled version from fc3 and my compiled version |
| 02:00.16 | Vivaldi | none works |
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| 02:02.43 | blast007 | Vivaldi: when you start the client, what does the dark blue line say towards the bottom? |
| 02:03.53 | Vivaldi | blast007, wait a moemnt |
| 02:03.57 | blast007 | k |
| 02:04.27 | blast007 | just the general idea of what it says |
| 02:04.34 | Vivaldi | "mesa glx indirect" |
| 02:06.14 | blast007 | that means it's using software rendering, iirc |
| 02:06.50 | blast007 | you might need to reinstall/install your video drivers |
| 02:07.05 | blast007 | but linux isn't my main OS, so I'm not the best to ask ;) |
| 02:07.55 | blast007 | http://www.dbforums.com/showthread.php?t=1089745 |
| 02:08.30 | blast007 | not sure if that is of any help |
| 02:20.36 | Vivaldi | g400 is included in the kernel by default |
| 02:22.34 | blast007 | might want a certain color depth, like 16-bit |
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| 02:36.35 | solemnwarning | why is the lastest version of bzflag really slow?? |
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| 02:37.05 | shorty114 | because you need to upgrade your computer ;) |
| 02:37.19 | solemnwarning | it ran the version from a few months ag ook |
| 02:37.38 | solemnwarning | and i can run games that have more graphics then bzflag at full speed |
| 02:37.43 | JeffM2501 | have you reinstalled windows or anyhing recently? |
| 02:37.48 | solemnwarning | WINDOWS?? |
| 02:37.58 | JeffM2501 | or what ever you use |
| 02:38.03 | blast007 | debian |
| 02:38.06 | shorty114 | rofl |
| 02:38.10 | JeffM2501 | current drivers? |
| 02:38.13 | JeffM2501 | whatever |
| 02:38.18 | solemnwarning | nv |
| 02:38.24 | JeffM2501 | oh |
| 02:38.28 | JeffM2501 | you use nv drivers? |
| 02:38.28 | SNES350 | <-using debian |
| 02:38.31 | JeffM2501 | use the nvidia ones |
| 02:38.36 | solemnwarning | ok |
| 02:38.38 | JeffM2501 | not the default nv |
| 02:38.43 | JeffM2501 | they suck |
| 02:38.46 | JeffM2501 | and suck HARD |
| 02:38.46 | solemnwarning | nv wasnt default |
| 02:38.53 | solemnwarning | vesa was default for me :P |
| 02:38.55 | solemnwarning | lol |
| 02:38.57 | JeffM2501 | vesa is default |
| 02:39.01 | JeffM2501 | nv comes with debian |
| 02:39.09 | JeffM2501 | nv dosnt' do ANY hardware 3d |
| 02:39.17 | JeffM2501 | go to www.nvidia.com and get the drivers |
| 02:39.31 | JeffM2501 | or add in the contrib stuff and find the package for em in apt |
| 02:39.46 | JeffM2501 | they will use the driver type "nvidia" in your X config |
| 02:47.42 | SNES350 | what is GLX? I get the message "extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0"." when I try to run the game |
| 02:47.57 | JeffM2501 | that is the driver that give X open GL |
| 02:48.02 | JeffM2501 | what video card do you have? |
| 02:48.55 | SNES350 | ati 3d rage pro LT w/ 4MB (haha) graphics memory |
| 02:49.07 | blast007 | ick x 4 |
| 02:49.08 | SNES350 | using the "ati" driver right now |
| 02:49.35 | JeffM2501 | install mesa |
| 02:49.40 | JeffM2501 | it'll give you software GL |
| 02:49.54 | JeffM2501 | it's gonna run like crap tho |
| 02:50.18 | SNES350 | eww software gl, i hope that's not as bad as when i tried counterstrike on this |
| 02:50.43 | JeffM2501 | what else are you going to do? |
| 02:50.48 | SNES350 | i had windows 98 on here, long ago |
| 02:50.50 | JeffM2501 | your OS won't provide hardware |
| 02:50.53 | JeffM2501 | for that card |
| 02:51.06 | SNES350 | i know :/ |
| 02:51.22 | JeffM2501 | suck it up, spend 20$ and go get a GF4MX |
| 02:51.25 | SNES350 | guess I won't be playing BZFlag on here then |
| 02:51.39 | SNES350 | $20 i might do that |
| 02:51.54 | JeffM2501 | how fast is the computer? |
| 02:52.18 | SNES350 | 400Mhz (again haha) |
| 02:52.22 | JeffM2501 | ohh yeah |
| 02:52.28 | JeffM2501 | well it may run with all things turned off |
| 02:52.31 | JeffM2501 | in low res |
| 02:52.40 | SNES350 | lol |
| 02:54.12 | JeffM2501 | the act of doing 3d does have some system requirements |
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| 02:54.34 | JeffM2501 | is it a laptop or something? |
| 02:55.15 | SNES350 | no just an old desktop |
| 02:55.58 | SNES350 | i have a good computer, but often someone else is using it so I put debian on here trying to make it useful |
| 02:56.32 | JeffM2501 | there is only so much you can do with that ancient thing |
| 02:57.00 | DTRemenak | 450 even |
| 02:57.04 | SNES350 | wow |
| 02:57.06 | JeffM2501 | at least that had drivers |
| 02:57.09 | DTRemenak | yup |
| 02:57.31 | DTRemenak | could keep 30fps or so with texturing on linear |
| 02:57.47 | DTRemenak | soon as you turned on better texturing it dropped like a rock |
| 03:02.25 | JeffM2501 | DTRemenak, I asume bzfs dosn't crash on start for you now? |
| 03:02.41 | DTRemenak | JeffM2501: correct |
| 03:02.43 | DTRemenak | thanks mucho |
| 03:03.58 | JeffM2501 | how close is your 0.4? |
| 03:08.55 | DTRemenak | workaphobia says recent anoncvs no longer crashes when trying to get the list server |
| 03:10.10 | DTRemenak | suppose I should build b12 have the last dude that claims it doesn't work try it |
| 03:10.27 | DTRemenak | also silverfox and a couple others report occasional crashes |
| 03:10.54 | DTRemenak | and I need to finish the team icons |
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| 04:43.16 | creeperz | you know its gettin bad when you have arctic silver 5 on your modem heat sink :-) |
| 04:45.02 | purple_cow | modem heat sink? |
| 04:51.21 | Aribeth | heatseekycowpow |
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| 06:00.09 | creeperz | purple_cow: my modem has a heat sink on the main chip |
| 06:00.23 | creeperz | my modem was gettign so hot that it would randomly shut off |
| 06:00.42 | creeperz | and I turned it on edge for better ventilation, but it would just do it less often |
| 06:00.58 | creeperz | now its all arctic silver 5'd up and I can actually burn my self with it now |
| 06:01.17 | creeperz | there was some really crappy, generic looking crap slapped on there stock, white and such |
| 06:01.56 | creeperz | there was an excess on it, I've had this modem in operation almost every day for the past 2 years and it was still very wet and was probably even inhibiting heat conduction |
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| 06:45.47 | erik-k | If anyone's here, I'm having a problem with BZflag... |
| 06:46.25 | ruskie | define problem |
| 06:46.42 | erik-k | For some reason, bzflag (Which used to get ~50FPS) is now getting ~12FPS |
| 06:47.11 | erik-k | I've tried using a downloaded RPM vs compile from source, didn't help a bit. |
| 06:48.03 | ruskie | is your 3d accell working as it should? |
| 06:48.08 | erik-k | Yes |
| 06:48.19 | erik-k | I've got an Nvidia FX5200 card, and I'm using their latest drivers |
| 06:48.39 | ruskie | did anything major change from the last bzflag you had to the new update? |
| 06:48.46 | erik-k | no |
| 06:48.57 | erik-k | I installed an RPM for 2.0.0 just yesterday... |
| 06:49.04 | erik-k | And it got 50+ out of the box |
| 06:49.20 | ruskie | and now you switched to? |
| 06:49.28 | erik-k | I think the problem is in other programs on my computer. |
| 06:49.43 | erik-k | Something is causing the X process to consume huge amounts of CPU |
| 06:49.53 | ruskie | did you do a ps ax |
| 06:49.58 | erik-k | yep... |
| 06:50.03 | erik-k | It's consuming 20% when idle |
| 06:50.10 | ruskie | nothing unussual in ps ax? |
| 06:50.15 | erik-k | Hot off F12ing from bzflag, it's more like 60% |
| 06:50.41 | ruskie | try "pkill -9 bzflag" |
| 06:50.46 | ruskie | in case a stale bzflag is running |
| 06:51.05 | erik-k | There are no stale BZflags - I just finished a restart |
| 06:51.10 | ruskie | else get xrestop |
| 06:51.24 | ruskie | run it and check specifcaly what proccess is using so much cpu |
| 06:51.36 | erik-k | hold on - going to downlaod |
| 06:52.10 | ruskie | though I think that's mainly for memory and other resources |
| 06:53.02 | erik-k | configuring |
| 06:53.25 | erik-k | If only all programs built and installed that fast :) |
| 06:53.46 | ruskie | lol |
| 06:54.28 | erik-k | So, it's running - what am I looking for? |
| 06:55.07 | ruskie | look for proccesses that might have huge memory usage or anything else out of the ordinary |
| 06:55.32 | erik-k | Nope - the only thing eating more than 1 meg total is KDesktop |
| 06:56.08 | ruskie | can you make a screenshot of the xrestop output and put it online somewhere? |
| 06:56.30 | erik-k | It'll take a moment to screencap and upload to my server - hand on |
| 06:56.32 | erik-k | *hang |
| 06:58.52 | erik-k | It's up |
| 06:59.01 | ruskie | url? |
| 06:59.01 | erik-k | ejksdesktop.homelinux.com/screenshota.png |
| 06:59.23 | erik-k | My DSL upstream sucks balls, though - it'll take ~3 seconds |
| 07:00.08 | ruskie | hmm ok that seems ok |
| 07:00.22 | ruskie | but if you run top you see X using 20% of cpu? |
| 07:00.44 | erik-k | It's wierd... |
| 07:00.53 | erik-k | It eats a bunch of CPU while doing anything, |
| 07:01.11 | erik-k | then very very slowly peters off to a more normal (~5%) consumption |
| 07:02.04 | erik-k | I started KDE system guard (basically a nice GUI frontend for ps aux) - now it's around 6% |
| 07:02.42 | erik-k | There is one wierd thing, though... |
| 07:02.57 | erik-k | When I restarted the computer, it was whining to me about dcopserver |
| 07:03.25 | ruskie | no clue what that is |
| 07:03.46 | erik-k | Me neither |
| 07:03.54 | erik-k | It's something KDE refuses to start without |
| 07:04.48 | erik-k | It exited, and the error message was talking about being unable to set the lock file ~/.ICEauthority |
| 07:05.22 | ruskie | checked the perms on it? |
| 07:05.39 | erik-k | Didn't bother - rm -f .ICE* |
| 07:06.24 | erik-k | The one currently in existance is u+rw only |
| 07:07.21 | erik-k | *sigh* Will screaming at my computer and beating the keyboard help at all? |
| 07:08.18 | ruskie | no clue |
| 07:08.21 | ruskie | this isn't windows |
| 07:08.32 | erik-k | Meh - it never helped then either |
| 07:08.50 | erik-k | The main difference between Linux and Windows: |
| 07:09.00 | erik-k | When windows crashes, you have to wait for the whole computer to restart |
| 07:09.23 | erik-k | When your Linux desktop crashes, you hit Ctl-Alt-Bksp and you're back in 10 seconds |
| 07:09.30 | ruskie | :) |
| 07:09.35 | ruskie | wouldn't know |
| 07:09.47 | ruskie | my wm's haven't crashed that much... |
| 07:10.01 | ruskie | if anything goes on my box it's ussualy a complete hard reboot time... |
| 07:10.22 | ruskie | else I don't really experience any such crashes |
| 07:10.23 | erik-k | Yeah, I set up my server around the start of last year |
| 07:11.36 | brad2901 | Is anon CVS working now? |
| 07:12.18 | erik-k | dunno |
| 07:12.25 | ruskie | no clue |
| 07:12.47 | brad2901 | Ok, I'll just try and see what happens then :) |
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| 07:12.55 | ruskie | lo _Manu_ |
| 07:13.03 | erik-k | Well, I'm going to kill my computer for the night and see what happens tomorrow... |
| 07:13.04 | _Manu_ | hi! |
| 07:13.09 | erik-k | Hi and bye |
| 07:13.15 | brad2901 | Hi _Manu_ |
| 07:13.26 | erik-k | If you hear about someone going on a computer killing spree in Southern California, it was me |
| 07:13.34 | ruskie | good to know... |
| 07:13.49 | erik-k | "When the time comes, count me in with the robot smashers!" |
| 07:13.53 | erik-k | M'kay bye |
| 07:14.15 | ruskie | I'll take some tools along as well... :) |
| 07:14.25 | ruskie | I'm good at putting things appart :) |
| 07:14.38 | ruskie | ussualy in a way that they can't be put back into working order |
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| 10:16.19 | *** topic/#bzflag is http://BZFlag.org/ || http://my.BZFlag.org/bb/ || http://my.BZFlag.org/ || http://cia.navi.cx/stats/project/BZFlag || http://BZFlag.org/wiki/GettingHelp || http://BZFlag.org/wiki/Download || http://bzflag.org/wiki/MapMaking |
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| 10:19.14 | brad2901 | ~bzflist |
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| 10:46.23 | Saturos | Hi CBG! |
| 10:46.32 | CBG | SATUROS :D |
| 10:46.36 | Saturos | :) |
| 10:46.45 | Saturos | How are you? |
| 10:46.52 | CBG | Good thanks. And you? |
| 10:47.17 | Saturos | A bit tired but overall it's fine. SAMY comes back today. :) |
| 10:48.07 | CBG | Woooh :D |
| 10:48.16 | CBG | Match match match match match match! |
| 10:48.22 | Saturos | But jetlag will make him tired and I guess he will sleep for a few hours. |
| 10:48.38 | CBG | Ok. Then tomorrow! ;) |
| 10:48.46 | Saturos | But as I know him he will knock on my door to play as soon as possible. |
| 10:48.58 | CBG | Hehe :) |
| 10:49.08 | Saturos | Only because you know he plays bad now. ;) |
| 10:49.21 | Saturos | Oh, gotta go... sry. |
| 10:49.46 | CBG | Bye :) |
| 10:49.47 | Saturos | Away now. :/ |
| 10:49.51 | Saturos | Bye! |
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| 11:26.21 | koalabear | hiya all. |
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| 11:58.01 | CBG | lol |
| 11:58.10 | ruskie | hmm |
| 12:05.44 | Grumbler | yep, those ras people really tick me off |
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| 12:10.59 | Grumbler | oh yeah, as for the bzflag b11 client crashing my computer on exit........i am kinda suspecting my hard drive, since it died the next day........although, maybe the client crashed my HD, now there is a rumour.......but i think it is more likely the HD |
| 12:11.44 | jpa- | Grumbler: no warranty :) |
| 12:15.32 | Grumbler | nope, the warranty on the HD expired 2 months ago |
| 12:16.20 | koalabear | My hard drve seems to go to sleep, and my system crashes, cries darn thing. maybe its juts getting tired. :) |
| 12:17.33 | koalabear | but on the good side by beast machine 486dx kicks butt compiling kernels |
| 12:20.57 | ruskie | I think this is a standard feature of hdds... work till warranty+random(6 months or so) |
| 12:21.12 | koalabear | hheeh I bet your right |
| 12:21.17 | koalabear | ban tw |
| 12:21.21 | koalabear | ban china |
| 12:21.25 | koalabear | darn them all |
| 12:21.39 | koalabear | I want better hard drives |
| 12:23.32 | ruskie | it happend to me with an ibm drive |
| 12:23.42 | ruskie | worked fine for 3 years as the warranty said then failed a month after |
| 12:24.29 | brad2901 | ~bzflist |
| 12:24.52 | ruskie | the first one from ibm failed after 3 months |
| 12:24.55 | ruskie | so I got it replaced |
| 12:25.08 | ruskie | Grumbler, I wouldn't put it past anyone... |
| 12:25.14 | Grumbler | heh |
| 12:25.32 | ruskie | since I'm quite happy with the current 60gb hdd I have no plans on buying a new one for a looonnngggg while |
| 12:25.41 | ruskie | I ussualy buy hw when it fails |
| 12:26.44 | ruskie | and I suspect m$ has some ugly code in format since at one time it wiped out my entire hdd |
| 12:26.54 | ruskie | from linux partitons to whatever other partitions I had |
| 12:27.09 | ruskie | acctually happend twice |
| 12:27.26 | Grumbler | ah, so they found you |
| 12:27.38 | CBG | ruskie: mac os x. |
| 12:27.43 | ruskie | [GrokLaw] "Microsoft Files to Patent Emoticon Method" -> http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20050724140820490 |
| 12:27.52 | ruskie | CBG, nope... just no windows anymore :) |
| 12:28.06 | CBG | ruskie: that almost as good :) |
| 12:28.08 | ruskie | I've been on linux for about 2 years as an exclusive os on my box |
| 12:28.12 | ruskie | CBG, no that's better |
| 12:28.16 | ruskie | I hate osx |
| 12:28.26 | ruskie | hate the gui the most |
| 12:28.30 | CBG | eh. |
| 12:29.10 | ruskie | and the only ppc I acctually would like to have is an amige one ppc |
| 12:29.14 | ruskie | erm amiga one even |
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| 12:36.24 | koalabear | I first started my linux journey with slackware on a 386xs 33mhz, and today I installed in on a 486 laptop,, it it rocks very very slowly :) |
| 12:38.00 | zoly | 'morning |
| 12:38.07 | koalabear | night |
| 12:38.21 | zoly | that machine could make a great X terminal |
| 12:39.04 | koalabear | I'm compiling a kernel on it |
| 12:39.17 | koalabear | using make menuconfig took along time |
| 12:39.50 | koalabear | it too a 1 1/2 seconds to deslect tihngs, and there was lots of delsleting done. :) |
| 12:40.37 | koalabear | but I plan to use it for dos emu, and a few other things as well. |
| 12:40.52 | koalabear | its could run windows 95 pretty well |
| 12:41.12 | koalabear | I wonder if they is a lite weight Xfree |
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| 12:46.13 | autocosm2 | hi brad |
| 12:46.29 | autocosm2 | hi brad2901 |
| 12:46.39 | autocosm2 | !weather 04043 |
| 12:46.40 | TheLastSpartan | autocosm2: The current temperature in Kennebunk, Maine (04043) is 66°F (8:35 AM EDT on July 25, 2005). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 83%. Dew Point: 61°F. Pressure: 29.78 in (1008 hPa). Visibility: 9.0 miles (14.5 kilometers). UV: 3 out of 16 |
| 12:47.01 | autocosm2 | !weather 03801 |
| 12:47.03 | TheLastSpartan | autocosm2: The current temperature in Portsmouth, New Hampshire (03801) is 70°F (6:55 AM EDT on July 25, 2005). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: 61°F. Wind: SSW at 9 mph (15 km/h). Pressure: 29.80 in (1009 hPa). Visibility: 20.0 miles (32.2 kilometers). UV: 0 out of 16 |
| 12:48.25 | autocosm2 | is anybody on? |
| 12:49.15 | Grumbler | yes, we are all "on" |
| 12:49.22 | Grumbler | ....the planet at least |
| 12:49.35 | Grumbler | ......although there are some doublts about jpa- |
| 12:49.58 | Chestal | is he under the planet? |
| 12:50.12 | Grumbler | not sure, the tests are not back yet |
| 12:50.24 | Grumbler | :) |
| 12:50.27 | jpa- | hmm |
| 12:50.52 | jpa- | i see light |
| 12:51.29 | jpa- | i don't care where i am, i have cat5e coming from the wall \o/ |
| 12:56.27 | Grumbler | heh, a true kid of the internet generation |
| 13:02.53 | CBG | Ah. I have no "bzfs" app... help! |
| 13:03.59 | CBG | I got the CVS, changed the commands.cxx file to RPGs version of it, and configured. |
| 13:04.08 | CBG | Now there is no "bzfs" |
| 13:04.45 | Pimpinella | you always made it? |
| 13:04.53 | Saturos | <- back! Hi again. :) |
| 13:05.04 | Pimpinella | tach saturos |
| 13:05.04 | CBG | yes. I did "make" |
| 13:05.08 | CBG | wb satu :) |
| 13:05.18 | CBG | uhoh |
| 13:05.21 | Saturos | Would you take a look at this? http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?t=4673 |
| 13:05.21 | CBG | make errors... |
| 13:05.30 | Saturos | After helping CBG of course. |
| 13:05.37 | CBG | :) |
| 13:05.41 | Pimpinella | and did it build successfully? |
| 13:06.07 | CBG | hang on |
| 13:06.50 | Pimpinella | Saturos: there were problems with ATI vid cards |
| 13:07.05 | Pimpinella | not sure which models and if they are solved yet |
| 13:07.09 | CBG | This is the output when I ran "make" : http://pastebin.ca/18448 |
| 13:07.16 | Pimpinella | DTRemenak might know |
| 13:07.27 | Saturos | Okay. THanks. |
| 13:08.50 | CBG | Can you help me, Pimpinella? |
| 13:08.50 | Saturos | Sent him an icq-msg. |
| 13:09.14 | Pimpinella | CBG: just looking |
| 13:09.22 | CBG | ok :) |
| 13:09.24 | Pimpinella | what was rpg's patch? |
| 13:09.35 | CBG | he changed the commands.cxx file |
| 13:09.46 | CBG | so I just swapped his for the oiriginal. |
| 13:09.50 | Pimpinella | yeah, changed which way? |
| 13:10.01 | CBG | you wanna see his version? |
| 13:10.09 | Pimpinella | yes |
| 13:10.30 | Pimpinella | preferably udiff |
| 13:10.48 | CBG | udiff ? |
| 13:10.52 | CBG | I pastebinned it |
| 13:11.05 | CBG | http://pastebin.ca/18450 |
| 13:12.04 | jpa- | differences |
| 13:12.04 | Pimpinella | look if you have this in your version of commands.cxx: |
| 13:12.07 | Pimpinella | static void zapAllFlags() |
| 13:12.07 | Pimpinella | { |
| 13:12.07 | Pimpinella | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:12.07 | Pimpinella | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:12.07 | Pimpinella | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:12.27 | jpa- | do a diff -u originalcommands.cxx newcommands.cxx |
| 13:12.46 | CBG | huh?? |
| 13:13.08 | CBG | what pimpi is looking for doesnt seem to be in there. |
| 13:13.19 | CBG | and I have no idea what jpa is on about |
| 13:13.28 | Pimpinella | nvm |
| 13:13.29 | jpa- | it would give the udiff info |
| 13:13.44 | CBG | well... ive lost the original now |
| 13:13.53 | CBG | cause i'm dumb I didnt make a copy :( |
| 13:14.10 | Pimpinella | k, just need to do a quick update |
| 13:14.17 | CBG | k |
| 13:14.27 | Pimpinella | do you use cvs or release? |
| 13:14.32 | CBG | cvs |
| 13:15.07 | Pimpinella | recent? |
| 13:15.16 | CBG | yeah |
| 13:15.21 | CBG | yesterdays iirc |
| 13:17.58 | Pimpinella | seems it's not in there nymore |
| 13:18.01 | Pimpinella | anymore |
| 13:18.25 | Pimpinella | which means that changes might be outdated |
| 13:18.34 | CBG | hmm? |
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| 13:20.57 | autocosm2 | !weather 04043 |
| 13:20.58 | TheLastSpartan | autocosm2: The current temperature in Kennebunk, Maine (04043) is 73°F (9:15 AM EDT on July 25, 2005). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 69%. Dew Point: 63°F. Wind: SSW at 5 mph (7 km/h). Pressure: 29.74 in (1007 hPa). Visibility: 8.0 miles (12.9 kilometers). UV: 5 out of 16 |
| 13:21.32 | autocosm2 | !03801 |
| 13:21.33 | TheLastSpartan | autocosm2: are you 11? |
| 13:22.13 | autocosm2 | !weather 03801 |
| 13:22.16 | TheLastSpartan | autocosm2: The current temperature in Portsmouth, New Hampshire (03801) is 73°F (8:55 AM EDT on July 25, 2005). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 69%. Dew Point: 63°F. Pressure: 29.76 in (1008 hPa). Visibility: 15.0 miles (24.1 kilometers). UV: 1 out of 16 |
| 13:22.27 | CBG | #botpark :P |
| 13:23.12 | Pimpinella | CBG: go to your projects root directory |
| 13:23.25 | Pimpinella | then do 'cvs up -dP' |
| 13:23.37 | CBG | just update it all? |
| 13:23.45 | Pimpinella | yep |
| 13:23.50 | CBG | k |
| 13:24.11 | CBG | it was later yesterday |
| 13:24.20 | Pimpinella | then do 'cvs diff -u > ../diff' |
| 13:24.29 | Pimpinella | bastebin ../diff then |
| 13:24.51 | CBG | pimpinella: without running autogen, and configure, etc ? |
| 13:24.59 | Pimpinella | doesn't matter |
| 13:26.40 | CBG | want the output? |
| 13:27.01 | Pimpinella | no, just the diff |
| 13:27.14 | CBG | errr...? |
| 13:27.40 | CBG | http://pastebin.ca/18452 ?? |
| 13:28.16 | Pimpinella | no, the contend of ../diff |
| 13:28.26 | CBG | oh |
| 13:28.51 | Pimpinella | bryjen removed zapAllFlags() in friday |
| 13:29.32 | CBG | hang on |
| 13:29.44 | Pimpinella | hang on? |
| 13:29.46 | CBG | ok. |
| 13:29.58 | CBG | pastebin "diff" file? |
| 13:30.28 | Pimpinella | well, you did 'cvs diff -u > ../diff', no? |
| 13:30.37 | zoly | is there a way to /ignore the replies of TheLastSpartan to autocosm2 ? it seems that only autocosm2 is /ignored . |
| 13:30.50 | CBG | pimpi: yes. |
| 13:31.17 | Pimpinella | so in the directory below your current should be a file called diff |
| 13:31.57 | Pimpinella | .. is the directory below your current |
| 13:32.05 | CBG | yes |
| 13:32.07 | CBG | i have it..... |
| 13:32.10 | CBG | what do I do with it? |
| 13:32.10 | Grumbler | zoly< it might be better to request someone to modify TheLastSpartan to send weather requests back in a PM |
| 13:32.16 | CBG | pastebin it? |
| 13:32.20 | Pimpinella | yep |
| 13:32.23 | CBG | ok :) |
| 13:32.31 | zoly | all right, /ignoring TheLastSpartan will then probably do it |
| 13:32.52 | Grumbler | yep |
| 13:33.03 | Grumbler | a little drastic, but effective |
| 13:33.06 | Pimpinella | zoly: it will, it will ignore all spartan replies though |
| 13:33.49 | zoly | if i don't find a way toi filter specific replies, then i prefer it that way. |
| 13:34.35 | Grumbler | you could probably code something that filtered it.......but then again, its only a couple lines of trash |
| 13:34.48 | Pimpinella | CBG: still around? |
| 13:35.06 | CBG | diff is a big file.... |
| 13:35.15 | CBG | took a while to post at pastebin. http://pastebin.ca/18453 |
| 13:35.55 | Pimpinella | shouldn't be that big |
| 13:36.06 | CBG | well - it is. :) |
| 13:36.20 | CBG | want me to randomly delete some of the lines? |
| 13:37.32 | CBG | so...? |
| 13:37.34 | Pimpinella | lol |
| 13:38.06 | Pimpinella | did you just copy rpg's version of that file over the existent? |
| 13:38.14 | CBG | yes |
| 13:38.47 | Pimpinella | k, so what was that version supposed to do? |
| 13:39.23 | CBG | ]add a "Race to 7 Captures" thing for CTF on bzfs |
| 13:40.07 | Pimpinella | lemme c if i can make a working version of it... |
| 13:40.30 | CBG | i think he had some other stuff there too.... |
| 13:40.35 | CBG | but, no problem :) |
| 13:41.21 | CBG | doesn't really have anything to do with me, he needs a mac version of the updated bzfs, and I get CVS... lol |
| 13:42.20 | Pimpinella | problem is that there are changes to bzfs that are more recent than this |
| 13:42.31 | CBG | yeah |
| 13:43.43 | Pimpinella | did you try that overcopying thing with other files too? |
| 13:44.01 | CBG | all I did was the commands.cxx file |
| 13:47.15 | Pimpinella | bryjen: ping |
| 13:48.00 | bryjen | Pimpinella: pong |
| 13:48.33 | Pimpinella | whats supposed to be used alternativly to zapAllFlags() ? |
| 13:49.13 | CBG | cant you use the bz command /reset ??? |
| 13:49.25 | brad2901 | ? |
| 13:49.33 | CBG | I am sure I heard/saw RPG ask jeff what the difference was, jeff said none really .... |
| 13:49.43 | bryjen | bz_resetFlags(true); |
| 13:49.44 | Chestal | Pimpinella: the function simply wasn't called anymore, so it got removed |
| 13:50.09 | Pimpinella | sure, rpg used it in this patch though |
| 13:50.11 | bryjen | wasn't called by anything _in_ bzflag. |
| 13:50.42 | bryjen | this is why he should've done a plugin, which would use the published API ;) |
| 13:51.15 | Pimpinella | yeah, especially because _all_ he did was adding to new commands |
| 13:51.31 | Pimpinella | would have been pretty simple |
| 13:51.39 | CBG | for you maybe... :P |
| 13:52.13 | bryjen | iirc, he's using devc++, which hasn't been set up to do plugin dll's |
| 13:54.24 | bryjen | whoops, that should be bz_resetFlags(false); to get all flags... |
| 13:54.34 | CBG | lol |
| 13:54.45 | CBG | only a Minor difference... ;) |
| 13:55.03 | bryjen | the paramter is to reset onlyUnsed |
| 13:55.13 | brad2901 | I don't suppose someone's willing to compile the plugins for mE? |
| 13:55.16 | bryjen | Unused |
| 13:55.31 | CBG | eww... brad.... no. :P |
| 13:55.41 | brad2901 | They don't work with the latest CVS |
| 13:56.01 | brad2901 | And as you said dev-c++ doesn't compile them (yet) |
| 13:56.30 | bryjen | !seen lan56 |
| 13:56.31 | TheLastSpartan | bryjen: lan56 was last seen here 3 weeks, 4 days, 11 hours, 17 minutes, and 52 seconds ago saying: <lan56> true :) |
| 13:58.00 | Pimpinella | k, lets see if it builds |
| 14:17.12 | CBG | so, any luck, pimpinella? |
| 14:27.35 | CBG | I still have no actual "bzfs" thing... |
| 14:28.49 | Saturos | Still trying? :/ |
| 14:29.26 | CBG | yes |
| 14:29.37 | Saturos | Omg. O_o |
| 14:30.45 | Saturos | I was never able to compile from cvs... heck, I wasn't even able to compile 2.0.2 from the sources (that's why I still play 2.0.0). Why don't you just give f*** and leave the thing until the next official release? :| |
| 14:32.23 | CBG | cause its not for me |
| 14:32.29 | Saturos | Oh. |
| 14:32.29 | CBG | I have comiled from cvs before |
| 14:32.35 | Saturos | Ya,I know. |
| 14:32.42 | CBG | this time I am trying to do it with a patch or whatever |
| 14:32.52 | CBG | for A-Delusion and RPG.... |
| 14:33.01 | Saturos | Ah, k. |
| 14:33.39 | CBG | I am just gonna delete all my cvs stuff and start over |
| 14:33.46 | CBG | I need to test my map. ! |
| 14:35.30 | Saturos | The cousin of my teamate der_bachelor has tomorrow and the day after tomorrow his last school-days before holidays. Well... he and his mates plan to go to the pc-room and play BZFlag the whole school-day (around 10 people). The curious thing: Even the teachers are addictes and will join the 10 pupils. O_o |
| 14:35.51 | Saturos | addicted |
| 14:36.03 | CBG | lol :D |
| 14:36.09 | CBG | sounds like a great school! |
| 14:36.27 | jpa- | Saturos: there is binaries of betas and also from latest stable 2.0.2 |
| 14:37.46 | jpa- | (the link on topic, http://bzflag.org/wiki/Download) |
| 14:38.13 | Saturos | Yeah, I know. I installed them but unfortunately if I install BZFlag system-wide I cant switch to window-mode pressing F1. |
| 14:39.01 | CBG | *** I just re-downloaded the source (havent done autogen.sh yet) and there is no bzfs app-thing in bzflag/src/bzfs !!!!!???? |
| 14:39.17 | jpa- | umm? |
| 14:39.20 | jpa- | surprise? |
| 14:39.26 | jpa- | you haven't compiled yet? :) |
| 14:39.29 | CBG | ok. :) |
| 14:39.32 | CBG | Just checking.... |
| 14:39.46 | jpa- | it is what compile does, generates the "app-things" |
| 14:39.49 | CBG | the reason I am redoing it is cause it wasnt there AFTER I compliled last time |
| 14:40.05 | CBG | ok :) |
| 14:41.30 | CBG | the readme says: "Now that you have a configure script, create a work directory parallel to the one you just downloaded and autoconfigured:" after ./autogen.sh - do I need to? |
| 14:41.35 | CBG | I never have... :/ |
| 14:42.22 | jpa- | what are you told to do with the work directory? |
| 14:43.10 | CBG | to go into it, then do ../bzflag/configure then make |
| 14:43.25 | jpa- | hmm |
| 14:43.28 | jpa- | that looks strange |
| 14:43.34 | jpa- | found the readme :) |
| 14:43.37 | CBG | :) |
| 14:43.49 | jpa- | i don't know what good it is supposed to do |
| 14:43.50 | CBG | I have never done it and haven't had any problems afaik |
| 14:44.16 | CBG | might it be an idea to just copy the bzflag dir anyway? |
| 14:44.38 | jpa- | nah |
| 14:44.44 | CBG | k |
| 14:45.31 | jpa- | but you could copy the bzfs-app-thingie somewhere so next time you break it, atleast you have a working binary |
| 14:45.44 | CBG | next-time? hehe |
| 14:45.46 | CBG | ok |
| 14:46.05 | CBG | after I configure? |
| 14:47.16 | CBG | configure: error: cannot run /bin/sh ./config.sub |
| 14:47.21 | CBG | oh wait... nvm :) |
| 14:48.37 | Pimpinella | CBG: vet was here, continuing now |
| 14:48.48 | CBG | ok :) |
| 14:48.54 | CBG | why was the vet here? |
| 14:48.59 | CBG | you have a poorly animal? |
| 14:49.06 | Pimpinella | yeah |
| 14:49.10 | CBG | aw :( |
| 14:49.38 | CBG | is it better now? |
| 14:50.27 | Pimpinella | i hope so, we'll see |
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| 14:57.18 | autocosm1 | !weather 04043 |
| 14:57.19 | TheLastSpartan | autocosm1: The current temperature in Kennebunk, Maine (04043) is 79°F (10:35 AM EDT on July 25, 2005). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 61%. Dew Point: 64°F. Pressure: 29.72 in (1006 hPa). Visibility: 8.0 miles (12.9 kilometers). UV: 8 out of 16 |
| 14:58.55 | CBG | is it possible that the latest cvs is really messed up and bzfs is missing from it? |
| 15:00.13 | menotume | missing ? |
| 15:00.23 | menotume | who stole bsfs !?!?!?! |
| 15:00.43 | CBG | is it possible? |
| 15:01.01 | menotume | possible, highly unlikely |
| 15:01.22 | CBG | well... this is the second time today - its still making |
| 15:01.30 | CBG | *fingers crossed* |
| 15:01.36 | CBG | last time there was no bzfs. |
| 15:02.37 | Pimpinella | CBG: http://balin.pimpi.org/cap7.patch |
| 15:03.05 | CBG | what do I do with it? |
| 15:03.24 | Pimpinella | get a fresh copy of cvs first |
| 15:03.31 | CBG | ugh |
| 15:03.35 | CBG | again? |
| 15:03.44 | Pimpinella | hm, do you have a slow connection? |
| 15:03.57 | Pimpinella | then do this: |
| 15:04.09 | creeperz | Pimpinella: he uses 2 cans and a piece of twine >.< |
| 15:04.25 | CBG | Pimpinella: I got the new cvs 20 mins ago.. |
| 15:04.27 | Pimpinella | oh, do you still have that diff file? |
| 15:04.31 | CBG | its making |
| 15:04.36 | Pimpinella | oh |
| 15:04.39 | CBG | yes I have "diff" |
| 15:04.50 | Pimpinella | made any changes to it? |
| 15:04.55 | CBG | none. |
| 15:05.01 | CBG | just compiled as usual |
| 15:05.04 | Pimpinella | k, stop your build |
| 15:05.25 | CBG | stopped |
| 15:05.41 | Pimpinella | go to the projects root dir |
| 15:05.58 | CBG | k |
| 15:06.14 | Pimpinella | do 'patch -p0 < /path/to/cap7.patch |
| 15:06.31 | CBG | i need to download it then? |
| 15:06.32 | Pimpinella | presumed you saved it locally |
| 15:06.38 | CBG | k |
| 15:07.25 | CBG | said "patching file src/bzfs/commands.cxx" |
| 15:07.31 | CBG | and then stopped. ok? |
| 15:07.34 | Pimpinella | fine |
| 15:07.47 | Pimpinella | continue building |
| 15:08.28 | CBG | autogen again? |
| 15:08.45 | Pimpinella | no, just do make |
| 15:08.46 | CBG | confgiue again? or just make? |
| 15:08.48 | CBG | ok |
| 15:11.19 | Pimpinella | this patch won't stop the game automatically once a tem has 7 caps, no? |
| 15:11.33 | CBG | no |
| 15:11.47 | CBG | but if one team is on 7 caps, there is another command |
| 15:11.49 | CBG | like /reportmatch or something... |
| 15:11.58 | Pimpinella | match end |
| 15:12.02 | CBG | which only works if a team is on 7 caps, and reports the results. |
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| 15:14.50 | CBG | hi ep and jeffm2501 :) |
| 15:14.54 | Pimpinella | no check for a valid file handle :( |
| 15:15.12 | ep | hi CBG |
| 15:15.13 | CBG | pimpinella: hmm? |
| 15:15.40 | Pimpinella | it writes the match result to a file |
| 15:15.54 | CBG | yeah...? |
| 15:15.57 | ep | I finally got 2.0 installed on kubuntu |
| 15:16.19 | Pimpinella | so it opens a file but doesn't check if the file handle is valid |
| 15:16.29 | CBG | oh... :/ |
| 15:17.00 | Pimpinella | maybe i'll fix that later |
| 15:20.05 | CBG | ok. what are the commands to run then? |
| 15:20.11 | CBG | to start and end a match and whatnot? |
| 15:20.28 | brad2901 | /match start & /match end |
| 15:20.36 | brad2901 | Unless you changed it :) |
| 15:20.50 | CBG | ok :) |
| 15:20.52 | CBG | ty brad |
| 15:20.54 | brad2901 | yw |
| 15:21.35 | CBG | brb |
| 15:23.34 | Pimpinella | no, nothing chaged |
| 15:23.39 | Pimpinella | changedf |
| 15:23.44 | Pimpinella | arghrrrrrrr |
| 15:23.49 | Pimpinella | changed |
| 15:24.11 | Pimpinella | with exactly one blank |
| 15:27.12 | CBG | back |
| 15:27.15 | CBG | seems to work :) |
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| 15:29.26 | CBG | I tested with an FFA map, and start worked |
| 15:29.39 | CBG | I obviously couldnt get 7 caps, but tried end anyway |
| 15:29.53 | CBG | it cussed at me for trying to break the system. bla bla.I think it works :) |
| 15:39.04 | CBG | does loads of arcs knock the FPS much? |
| 15:39.12 | *** join/#bzflag blast007 (~blast007@24-196-92-143.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com) |
| 15:39.18 | CBG | hey blast007 :D |
| 15:39.38 | blast007 | hi |
| 15:39.43 | CBG | does loads of arcs knock the FPS much? |
| 15:40.08 | blast007 | really depends |
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| 15:40.47 | blast007 | best way to find out is to try that |
| 15:40.55 | CBG | I mean, like 60+ arcs. |
| 15:41.10 | blast007 | I don't build many maps ;) |
| 15:41.51 | blast007 | one big killer of FPS is transparent objects |
| 15:41.57 | CBG | wow |
| 15:42.12 | CBG | I have a series of small rings (arcs with lo ratios) |
| 15:42.21 | CBG | paper thin and tiny ratios... |
| 15:42.27 | CBG | about 10 all clumped together |
| 15:42.38 | CBG | if I sit on them, my FPS goes down to 5. |
| 15:42.45 | blast007 | lol |
| 15:42.59 | CBG | 5 damnit! :( |
| 15:43.15 | CBG | I just went on gu and was getting 40 - 45 FPS constantly. |
| 15:43.25 | CBG | so I guess I wanna keep my maps above 30 FPS. |
| 15:43.43 | CBG | (with the same conditions - IRC, Adium, etc open.) |
| 15:43.52 | CBG | Otherwise folk won't be too happy. |
| 15:43.56 | blast007 | :) |
| 15:44.09 | CBG | damn damn damn. that ruins this whole map. |
| 15:46.28 | CBG | Its a map that ONLY has arcs... :/ |
| 15:51.48 | Grumbler | cbg, trepan/louman/aribeth might be able to help with improvement......but yeah, transparent objects kill fps........i shouldnt think 60+ would kill fps unless then were large or overlapping, but i would be guessing |
| 15:52.13 | CBG | all objects are opaque. |
| 15:52.36 | CBG | but, its a lot of arcs... |
| 15:54.02 | CBG | It's online now at cbg.kicks-ass.org port:5154 |
| 15:55.15 | brad2901 | CBG: "Error connecting to server" :) |
| 15:55.38 | CBG | really? |
| 15:55.58 | brad2901 | yup |
| 15:56.17 | Grumbler | ditto |
| 15:56.18 | CBG | maybe thats just you - like I can't connect to your server... |
| 15:56.20 | CBG | oh. |
| 15:56.22 | brad2901 | have you forwarded port 5154? |
| 15:56.30 | CBG | yeah. |
| 15:56.33 | brad2901 | hm |
| 15:56.33 | CBG | ages ago. |
| 15:56.42 | CBG | I have run a server before |
| 15:56.43 | brad2901 | ~bzfquery cbg.kicks-ass.org |
| 15:57.01 | CBG | doesn't look good. |
| 15:57.02 | brad2901 | Looks like ibot can't connect either :) |
| 15:57.05 | CBG | lemme check my conf |
| 15:58.13 | CBG | Okay... I took loads of stuff out of the conf, try again :) |
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| 15:58.16 | *** mode/#bzflag [+v Tupone] by ChanServ |
| 15:59.12 | menotume | CBG: Can you connect using the domain name ? |
| 15:59.26 | CBG | I can't. but I never could... |
| 15:59.33 | menotume | huh ? |
| 15:59.39 | brad2901 | lol CBG |
| 15:59.41 | CBG | I assumed it was normal. |
| 15:59.48 | CBG | I ahve to connect with my LAN IP |
| 15:59.49 | brad2901 | how do you expect us to connect? |
| 15:59.53 | blast007 | ~nslookup cbg.kicks-ass.org |
| 15:59.58 | menotume | i can't ping it even |
| 15:59.59 | CBG | It has worked before. |
| 16:00.02 | blast007 | ~nslookup CBG |
| 16:00.09 | menotume | check your ip |
| 16:00.19 | CBG | oh damn |
| 16:00.21 | blast007 | CBG == 82.10.139.173 |
| 16:00.26 | CBG | my IP changed a few days back |
| 16:00.29 | CBG | :) hang on |
| 16:00.30 | menotume | hehe |
| 16:00.31 | brad2901 | heh |
| 16:04.25 | CBG | hmm... my new IP is listed... |
| 16:04.38 | CBG | ah, nvm |
| 16:04.46 | CBG | it is now. : |
| 16:04.48 | CBG | ) |
| 16:04.52 | brad2901 | bzfquery 82.10.139.173 |
| 16:04.56 | brad2901 | ~bzfquery 82.10.139.173 |
| 16:05.02 | brad2901 | yay |
| 16:05.11 | CBG | ok. try now :) |
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| 16:05.30 | CBG | might take a few hours to join... lo |
| 16:06.41 | brad2901 | I still get error connecting :) |
| 16:07.57 | menotume | i still can't ping |
| 16:08.06 | menotume | ping turned off, cbg ? |
| 16:08.15 | CBG | dunno |
| 16:08.20 | CBG | but its working |
| 16:08.35 | menotume | it's usually a router option (your router) |
| 16:10.54 | ToughShooter | CBG: Firewall active? |
| 16:11.08 | CBG | Ports are open. |
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| 16:11.16 | CBG | grumpler, blast and trepan alll joined fine |
| 16:11.35 | ToughShooter | I can't ping it, either |
| 16:11.55 | CBG | I want you to join.... not ping |
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| 16:14.24 | ToughShooter | Can't join |
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| 16:24.29 | Grumbler | ToughShooter< maybe cbg banned you :) |
| 16:24.50 | CBG | :) |
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| 16:32.11 | specialman | hi to all |
| 16:32.19 | CBG | hi |
| 16:33.31 | specialman | does anyone know if it possible to reset all scores after some time without restarting the server? |
| 16:34.05 | specialman | what i do is the following: \countdown X |
| 16:34.29 | CBG | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:35.01 | specialman | and the game starts after X seconds. but after the time which is given in the conf file the game does not end |
| 16:35.46 | CBG | Yeah. /gameover should do it :) |
| 16:35.47 | specialman | what i whant is that i write \countdown X and then after X seconds a game starts and finishs after let´s say 10 minutes |
| 16:35.59 | menotume | /gameover won't reset scores |
| 16:36.07 | menotume | but it will let you /coundown again |
| 16:36.10 | CBG | you need to set the lenght of a match in the conf |
| 16:36.22 | specialman | i only want to reset scores without disconnecting from the server |
| 16:36.34 | specialman | i have done this |
| 16:36.54 | CBG | but it doesnt work? |
| 16:37.00 | specialman | but at the end of this time nothing happens |
| 16:37.06 | CBG | hmm... |
| 16:37.08 | menotume | there should be a / command for that |
| 16:37.13 | specialman | the time is over and it stays "0:00" |
| 16:37.21 | menotume | then, do a /gameover |
| 16:37.27 | specialman | but the scores are still there |
| 16:37.27 | CBG | :) |
| 16:37.35 | menotume | yes |
| 16:37.47 | menotume | then /countdown again |
| 16:37.59 | specialman | ok but when do i have to write that? |
| 16:38.01 | menotume | so, set you conf for a very big countdown value |
| 16:38.24 | menotume | to reset scores, do: /gameover then: /countdown |
| 16:38.24 | specialman | why? |
| 16:38.28 | specialman | ok |
| 16:38.45 | menotume | it's not the best way, but the only way i can think of |
| 16:38.51 | specialman | ok |
| 16:39.04 | specialman | i thought theres is something which does that directly |
| 16:39.34 | specialman | and for what purpose is the game time? |
| 16:40.09 | menotume | well, it's supposed to end the game - for timed matches |
| 16:40.34 | specialman | yes but it is not the end of the game |
| 16:41.01 | specialman | we can play further |
| 16:41.13 | menotume | well, that's the way it works :) |
| 16:41.18 | specialman | hmmm |
| 16:41.28 | menotume | that's why i say to set the countdown time to a very large value |
| 16:41.33 | CBG | grumbler, blast007, menotume: what did you think of the arc map then? ;) |
| 16:41.44 | blast007 | it was pretty cool |
| 16:41.51 | menotume | interesting, i dunno how playable though |
| 16:42.07 | menotume | nneds more 'stuff' in the middle imo |
| 16:42.23 | specialman | ok but what is if there is a shot - which would decide the whole game - but you cannot see if it was in the time or not |
| 16:43.02 | menotume | well, if it's a timed game, countdown will tkae care of that |
| 16:43.08 | specialman | ok thank you |
| 16:43.11 | menotume | at the end of the countdown, the game is over |
| 16:43.53 | CBG | menotume blast007: thanks... I was gonna add stuff on the ground.. :) I think I can't go any higher with the rings though... not with this FPS. lol |
| 16:44.11 | blast007 | :) |
| 16:44.26 | menotume | maybe lose 'wing's and make it 'jump' navigatible ? |
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| 16:44.37 | menotume | dunno, i'm not a map-maker |
| 16:45.01 | CBG | I will make wings jumpcount 1 or 2 |
| 16:45.06 | CBG | its only 999 for testing :) |
| 16:45.25 | bz5779 | hey cbg |
| 16:45.29 | orange | it's a fun way to test for sure |
| 16:45.45 | CBG | hi bz5779 :) |
| 16:45.50 | CBG | lol orange :) |
| 16:46.08 | bz5779 | its a-delusion im gonna o reg here now |
| 16:46.15 | Grumbler | cbg, first, you asked my opinion, so be warned, i dont hold back., second are you sure you want my opinion knowing that? :) |
| 16:46.43 | CBG | Grumbler (and trepan too) what the heck! Shoot! :) |
| 16:47.03 | trepan | been there, done that |
| 16:47.31 | CBG | no ya didn. you said I didnt want your opinion :) |
| 16:47.52 | trepan | that doesn't make my former statement any less true |
| 16:48.47 | Grumbler | ok, i was having difficulty jumping around, that would get me frustrated and I would probably end up battling on the ground, second, i am not a big "cage fighter", although i like the idea of whack richo shots...still the wall is too big |
| 16:49.25 | CBG | the big outside wall? |
| 16:49.44 | CBG | trepan: go on. I can take it. ;) |
| 16:50.37 | CBG | grumbler: the original idea was to make a cylicrical map (after seeing Sir_Pants's octagon map) |
| 16:50.41 | Grumbler | big outside wall/cyclinder that surrounded the rings |
| 16:51.01 | Grumbler | heh |
| 16:51.11 | trepan | (hiding data in texcoords, which arc/cones/spheres do not have) |
| 16:51.33 | Grumbler | i dont think i have seen sir_pants map |
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| 16:52.01 | menotume | laser would be interesting at cbg's map :) |
| 16:52.04 | specialman | i tried /gameover but then all players have to reconnect to the server, what i want is to reset the score, but everyone should stay in game |
| 16:52.14 | menotume | ohhhhh |
| 16:52.19 | menotume | sry, forgot about that |
| 16:52.35 | CBG | yes menotume :) laser = fun |
| 16:52.36 | menotume | i don't think the command is there (although there should be one) |
| 16:53.15 | specialman | and how do you times games? |
| 16:53.25 | specialman | and what are you doing after a game? |
| 16:53.33 | specialman | disconnecting and reconnecting? |
| 16:53.35 | menotume | /countdown if for timed game |
| 16:53.40 | CBG | Someone help me... I have compiled CVS, how do I now make it in a suitable form for someone else to use? |
| 16:53.47 | menotume | then, the game is over, and everyone rejoins to play another |
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| 16:54.08 | A-Delusion | RPG found out how to do a score reset without a superkill or gameover from jeffm |
| 16:54.09 | CBG | ie, how do I make it into a bzflag.app like you usually download on sf.net... |
| 16:54.12 | specialman | hmmm ok |
| 16:54.20 | specialman | thanks |
| 16:54.35 | menotume | yes, by programming it :) |
| 16:54.51 | menotume | i think it's a patch for his match stuff |
| 16:54.58 | A-Delusion | yes |
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| 16:55.34 | CBG | RPG_ just the guy :) |
| 16:55.39 | RPG_ | what |
| 16:55.42 | A-Delusion | who? |
| 16:55.52 | RPG | eh? |
| 16:55.57 | CBG | someone tell him... |
| 16:56.07 | RPG | eep |
| 16:56.12 | RPG | i don't want to know |
| 16:56.22 | CBG | and someone please let me know how I can make my compiled CVS into an .app that I can send to A-Delusion |
| 16:58.47 | CBG | be back later. talk to me while I am away. ;) |
| 16:58.55 | RPG_ | hi CBG |
| 16:59.00 | RPG_ | ~karma RPG |
| 16:59.00 | ibot | rpg has karma of 9 |
| 16:59.02 | RPG_ | horray |
| 16:59.04 | RPG_ | ~RPG++ |
| 16:59.13 | RPG_ | ~logs |
| 16:59.13 | ibot | it has been said that logs is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23bzflag/, or stats http://ibot.rikers.org/stats/bzflag.html.gz |
| 17:00.33 | RPG_ | ~lart ibot |
| 17:01.37 | blast007 | lol |
| 17:06.11 | wegstar | :D |
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| 17:17.40 | CBG | so. |
| 17:18.04 | CBG | _nobody_ can tell me how to make the cvs bzflag into an .app or whatever..? |
| 17:18.52 | jpa- | hrm |
| 17:19.04 | jpa- | ./autogen.sh && ./configure && make ? |
| 17:19.30 | CBG | and what? just email the bzflag dir to him? |
| 17:22.33 | jpa- | ? |
| 17:22.36 | jpa- | him? |
| 17:22.45 | CBG | a-delusion. |
| 17:22.56 | jpa- | umm, maybe just the app |
| 17:22.59 | jpa- | and data dir |
| 17:23.12 | jpa- | i'm not sure how dmg:s are made |
| 17:23.42 | jpa- | probably like make install PREFIX=mytempdir and then package the tempdir contents |
| 17:27.37 | CBG | I know how to make a dmg |
| 17:29.04 | CBG | I guess I could make a .command file that would run bzflag and bzfs, right? |
| 17:29.16 | *** topic/#bzflag by RPG_ -> http://BZFlag.org/ |
| 17:29.23 | RPG_ | huh? |
| 17:29.28 | RPG_ | RPG_ has changed the topic to: http://BZFlag.org/ |
| 17:29.29 | jpa- | ahaa |
| 17:29.36 | CBG | A-Delusion: is it bzflag or just bzfs you need? |
| 17:29.39 | jpa- | RPG_: please don't |
| 17:29.40 | RPG_ | just bzfs |
| 17:29.42 | RPG_ | i dint' mean it! |
| 17:29.43 | CBG | RPG_ stop messing. |
| 17:29.55 | RPG_ | i shouldn't be able to do that |
| 17:30.00 | CBG | just bzfs? ok. |
| 17:30.00 | jpa- | CBG: do you know what is XCode? |
| 17:30.11 | CBG | jpa- I know of it.... lol |
| 17:30.21 | jpa- | you should get the .app thing by using XCode project from the bzflag dir |
| 17:30.28 | wegstar | .. |
| 17:30.34 | jpa- | BZFlag.xcode that is |
| 17:30.44 | *** topic/#bzflag by wegstar -> “http://BZFlag.org/ || http://my.BZFlag.org/bb/ || http://my.BZFlag.org/ || http://cia.navi.cx/stats/project/BZFlag || http://BZFlag.org/wiki/GettingHelp || http://BZFlag.org/wiki/Download || http://bzflag.org/wiki/MapMaking†|
| 17:30.44 | CBG | wegstar: dont start that ".." thing again! LOL |
| 17:31.07 | *** topic/#bzflag by wegstar -> http://BZFlag.org/ || http://my.BZFlag.org/bb/ || http://my.BZFlag.org/ || http://cia.navi.cx/stats/project/BZFlag || http://BZFlag.org/wiki/GettingHelp || http://BZFlag.org/wiki/Download || http://bzflag.org/wiki/MapMaking |
| 17:31.10 | CBG | jpa- lemme see :) |
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| 17:31.56 | jpa- | CBG: that all reads in README.MacOSX |
| 17:32.19 | CBG | oh. ok cheers. |
| 17:35.15 | CBG | hmm... it hasnt made a .app |
| 17:35.51 | jpa- | not anywhere? |
| 17:35.58 | jpa- | find | grep app :)I |
| 17:37.09 | CBG | not a new one... :( |
| 17:38.55 | CBG | Hey, do you all realise that we havent had a new official release for over 4 months? :o |
| 17:39.29 | jpa- | CBG: so? |
| 17:39.31 | CBG | but, looking over the past releases, it seems that this is normal... :P |
| 17:41.21 | CBG | i got this errorwhen trying to build with xcode: Building target “BZFlag†with build style “Development†(optimization:level ‘size’, debug-symbols:on) — (1 error) |
| 17:41.42 | RPG_ | i don't think that tells us the error |
| 17:41.45 | CBG | errr. hang on |
| 17:42.10 | Pimpinella | probably xcode isn't up to dte |
| 17:42.11 | Pimpinella | date |
| 17:42.40 | Pimpinella | it seems to be reagulary broken between releases |
| 17:44.31 | CBG | can't copy the error |
| 17:44.37 | CBG | ill try again |
| 17:47.08 | CBG | http://www.kaziaz.com/stuff/error.pdf |
| 17:55.34 | CBG | so... ? |
| 17:55.42 | trepan | cool, massive gains by sorting translucents in groups ("groupAlpha" mat. prop.) |
| 17:56.53 | trepan | for silly maps that have blended spheres with 20 divisions (8 * 20^2 faces) |
| 17:58.18 | jpa- | what is that 8 for? |
| 18:02.29 | Pimpinella | CBG: never used xcode, but it looks like a broken xcode project |
| 18:02.49 | Pimpinella | why do you need xcode? |
| 18:03.22 | Pimpinella | having problems the gnu way? |
| 18:03.33 | blast007 | he's trying to build a .app, iirc |
| 18:03.38 | Pimpinella | ic |
| 18:03.39 | trepan | 8 octants |
| 18:03.41 | CBG | :) |
| 18:03.59 | CBG | ok for get the .app |
| 18:04.13 | CBG | I'll just dmg the stuff he needs to run bzfs. |
| 18:04.27 | CBG | which would just the the /src/bzfs dir, right? |
| 18:04.34 | Pimpinella | dmg? |
| 18:04.40 | CBG | diskimage |
| 18:04.55 | CBG | or stuffit |
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| 18:05.33 | Pimpinella | still not sure, why do you want to make a dmg and for who? |
| 18:06.09 | CBG | to send to A-Delusion |
| 18:06.27 | Pimpinella | the binary? |
| 18:07.16 | Pimpinella | sending just the bzfs binary will work if he has the same environment |
| 18:08.05 | Pimpinella | roughly the same libs, roughly the same OS version |
| 18:09.23 | Pimpinella | if i update server version here i build locallyand just copy bzfs to my server |
| 18:09.24 | CBG | the binary? |
| 18:09.35 | Pimpinella | executable |
| 18:09.48 | Pimpinella | /src/bzfs/bzfs |
| 18:09.56 | CBG | only that file? |
| 18:10.26 | Pimpinella | there's nothing in that directory thats actually needed |
| 18:10.43 | Pimpinella | except bzfs |
| 18:10.51 | CBG | and the changes will be included? |
| 18:11.01 | blast007 | yeah |
| 18:11.06 | Pimpinella | if you rebuild, yeah |
| 18:11.14 | CBG | rebuild? |
| 18:11.22 | Pimpinella | have done |
| 18:11.29 | Pimpinella | with changes |
| 18:11.38 | CBG | ugh |
| 18:11.42 | Pimpinella | perfect |
| 18:11.43 | CBG | i dont understand |
| 18:11.57 | CBG | use full sentences please |
| 18:12.00 | Pimpinella | did you recompile after ou did the changes? |
| 18:12.24 | CBG | yeah |
| 18:12.34 | Pimpinella | then it's within there |
| 18:12.38 | CBG | ok. |
| 18:12.59 | CBG | and I can just email that thing/whatever "bzfs" |
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| 18:13.21 | Pimpinella | if he has a working bzfs now he can simply copy bzfs over the existing one |
| 18:14.11 | Pimpinella | he has to make sure that file permissions are kept the way they used to be |
| 18:15.11 | Pimpinella | not sure if that breaks the uninstall procedure if he originally used an .app |
| 18:18.50 | CBG | on what? |
| 18:18.50 | CBG | the "bzfs" ? |
| 18:18.50 | CBG | hmm... he wants it done asap... so, can I have a straight answer? :( |
| 18:31.33 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03trepan * 10bzflag/man/bzw.5.in: more material props, specify face requirements |
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| 18:31.45 | TD-Linux | I see there are a few people here |
| 18:31.49 | blast007 | yup |
| 18:32.04 | TD-Linux | *yawn* |
| 18:32.28 | TD-Linux | didn't he already? |
| 18:33.31 | TD-Linux | :) |
| 18:33.36 | TD-Linux | :-) |
| 18:33.51 | TD-Linux | this is an active channel, isn't it? |
| 18:34.05 | TD-Linux | going to #masterbot now... |
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| 18:34.17 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o Tupone] by ChanServ |
| 18:34.26 | TD-Linux | oh oh, I wonder what server #masterbot is on |
| 18:34.39 | TD-Linux | does anyone know where meteorite made the #masterbot channel? |
| 18:35.05 | brad2901 | rpg_ was in #masterbot on freenode earlier |
| 18:35.23 | blast007 | seems no one is there right now, though |
| 18:35.39 | TD-Linux | I can't seem to find #masterbot |
| 18:35.42 | TD-Linux | what server is it on |
| 18:35.44 | TD-Linux | ? |
| 18:35.49 | zoly | brad2901: do you also play as "brad" instead of "brad2901" ? |
| 18:35.52 | TD-Linux | can I use this client on it? |
| 18:35.58 | blast007 | TD-Linux: no, you can't |
| 18:36.02 | blast007 | use the strayer.de one |
| 18:36.06 | TD-Linux | ok |
| 18:36.22 | brad2901 | zoly: yes, sometimes |
| 18:36.30 | zoly | such as, earlier today ? |
| 18:36.38 | brad2901 | yep :) |
| 18:37.00 | zoly | ok. there was a minor doubt about your indentity by one of your opponents... |
| 18:37.03 | CBG | TD-Linux: what server are you on on this channel? |
| 18:37.05 | zoly | identity |
| 18:37.23 | TD-Linux | irc.freenode.something |
| 18:37.28 | wegstar | .net |
| 18:37.32 | TD-Linux | yes |
| 18:37.34 | brad2901 | zoly: Who was it that thought I was an impersonator? |
| 18:37.38 | CBG | so just do /join #masterbot |
| 18:37.38 | TD-Linux | and the my.bzflag.org client |
| 18:37.45 | wegstar | he can't |
| 18:37.51 | TD-Linux | it dosen't work |
| 18:37.51 | CBG | oooh... get a real client :) |
| 18:37.59 | wegstar | yeah.. like chatzilla |
| 18:38.08 | TD-Linux | let's see if my linux box has one built in |
| 18:38.16 | CBG | :) |
| 18:38.20 | TD-Linux | could IRC be one? |
| 18:38.23 | wegstar | yeah |
| 18:38.30 | Aribeth | TD what os? |
| 18:38.32 | TD-Linux | what network do I choose? |
| 18:38.37 | wegstar | irc.freenode.net? |
| 18:38.45 | wegstar | freenode |
| 18:39.09 | TD-Linux | found it |
| 18:39.16 | wegstar | :) |
| 18:39.32 | TD-Linux | now how do I join #masterbot? |
| 18:39.38 | TD-Linux | I'm a newbie to irc |
| 18:39.41 | wegstar | do /join #masterbot |
| 18:39.48 | CBG | just do /join #masterbot |
| 18:39.53 | TD-Linux | it worked |
| 18:40.03 | TD-Linux | server > join channel works too |
| 18:40.03 | wegstar | CBG: :P |
| 18:40.08 | wegstar | ah |
| 18:40.17 | CBG | heh. wegstar is fast |
| 18:40.17 | CBG | TD-Linux: no it didnt. |
| 18:40.17 | CBG | Your not in #masterbot. |
| 18:40.32 | TD-Linux | it didn't work yet |
| 18:40.38 | TD-Linux | now I am |
| 18:40.47 | CBG | :) |
| 18:42.02 | *** join/#bzflag wegstar__ (~foo@adsl-69-224-7-48.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) |
| 18:50.06 | CBG | bzbb admins!: http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?t=4676 |
| 18:51.13 | TD-Linux | we should have another admin symbol |
| 18:51.14 | TD-Linux | for cops |
| 18:51.23 | TD-Linux | like this: * |
| 18:51.34 | TD-Linux | so people don't ask them to /set |
| 18:51.36 | TD-Linux | and stuff |
| 18:52.47 | blast007 | isn't there a permission to hide the admin symbol? |
| 18:52.54 | TD-Linux | yes |
| 18:53.02 | TD-Linux | but then people don't know they are a cop |
| 18:53.09 | TD-Linux | this would be something in between |
| 18:53.19 | TD-Linux | -, , *, @ |
| 18:53.28 | TD-Linux | -, , *, @ |
| 18:53.31 | TD-Linux | strange |
| 18:53.32 | blast007 | or just tell the people to stop asking, and kick them if they continue |
| 18:53.38 | TD-Linux | sure |
| 18:53.42 | TD-Linux | that works too |
| 18:53.47 | blast007 | yeah, you can't type + symbols in CGI:IRC |
| 18:54.03 | TD-Linux | you obviously aren't using it |
| 18:54.17 | blast007 | hmm? |
| 18:54.33 | blast007 | of course I'm not using CGI:IRC...it sucks |
| 18:54.47 | blast007 | I'm saying that's why you could type the plus |
| 18:54.54 | blast007 | couldn't type* |
| 18:54.56 | TD-Linux | ok |
| 18:55.05 | TD-Linux | moving to x-chat... |
| 18:55.13 | *** join/#bzflag TD-Linux_ (~TD-Linux@24-159-197-101.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com) |
| 18:55.19 | TD-Linux_ | tada |
| 18:55.21 | TD-Linux_ | + |
| 18:55.23 | blast007 | :) |
| 18:55.26 | blast007 | hehe |
| 18:55.39 | TD-Linux_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:55.53 | wegstar | :) |
| 18:56.56 | TD-Linux | <yawn> |
| 18:57.00 | TD-Linux | sleep |
| 18:57.27 | TD-Linux_ | zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz |
| 18:57.28 | TD-Linux | zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz |
| 18:57.36 | TD-Linux | watch my amazing feat |
| 18:57.46 | TD-Linux_ | zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz |
| 18:57.46 | TD-Linux | zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz |
| 18:57.54 | Tupone | TD-Linux: stop it |
| 18:58.00 | TD-Linux | ok |
| 18:58.39 | menotume | beware of strange bug reports |
| 18:59.21 | brad2901 | I don't know what to say :) |
| 18:59.49 | brad2901 | in roaming and tracking mode, all I see is the playerlist and chat box, the rest is black |
| 18:59.50 | menotume | how about .... client render window is all black when obs |
| 18:59.58 | brad2901 | nyeah :) |
| 19:00.06 | menotume | in version ... |
| 19:00.12 | brad2901 | 2.0.3b10 |
| 19:00.19 | brad2901 | windows xp |
| 19:00.31 | brad2901 | someone else had the same problem with the same version |
| 19:01.37 | menotume | ahhh, there's a b11, might want to try that |
| 19:01.46 | brad2901 | ok |
| 19:01.50 | menotume | http://my.bzflag.org/builds/2.0.x/bzflag-2.0.3b11.exe |
| 19:04.35 | blast007 | brad2901: can you switch players? |
| 19:04.58 | brad2901 | It's fine when following players |
| 19:05.00 | blast007 | sometimes it goes nuts when a player hasn't spawned yet, and they are at (0, 0, 0), which is where the observer starts |
| 19:05.26 | brad2901 | it was in roaming mode |
| 19:05.32 | brad2901 | and tracking flags/players |
| 19:05.57 | *** join/#bzflag tavla (~spreker@ip51cfa1ef.direct-adsl.nl) |
| 19:07.19 | brad2901 | 2.0.11 seems fine so far. |
| 19:15.19 | orchid | zoly: /IGNORE -replies *!user@*.host.org ALL - ignore user and all replies |
| 19:19.57 | menotume | YAY |
| 19:37.07 | orange | but why? |
| 19:37.17 | Aribeth | hi orange |
| 19:37.29 | orange | hello, I'm not sure what I've walked into here :-) |
| 19:37.39 | Aribeth | same here |
| 19:38.29 | CBG | you dont wanna know |
| 19:38.42 | Aribeth | ewwww |
| 19:38.46 | orange | that's just creepy |
| 19:38.47 | CBG | randy jpa- !! |
| 19:38.49 | Aribeth | im slimed |
| 19:38.53 | Aribeth | :P |
| 19:39.02 | jpa- | prefer a kiss? |
| 19:39.11 | Aribeth | hrmmm |
| 19:39.40 | CBG | I would - but not from you :P |
| 19:39.55 | Aribeth | i just remembered...i left a roast burning in the oven |
| 19:40.01 | jpa- | CBG: from that girlie you want to be online? :) |
| 19:40.25 | CBG | eh. |
| 19:40.27 | jpa- | Aribeth: you like, light the roast up, put in the oven and leave it there? :) |
| 19:40.35 | CBG | tell the whole world please jpa- |
| 19:40.39 | jpa- | ok |
| 19:41.13 | jpa- | i'm not sure if they are so interested |
| 19:42.25 | jpa- | it is not in my pocket, it is not in my pocket! |
| 19:42.35 | Aribeth | ewwww |
| 19:45.06 | jpa- | ~bzflist |
| 19:45.12 | jpa- | hm |
| 19:48.36 | Aribeth | !weather 30040 |
| 19:48.43 | TheLastSpartan | Aribeth: The current temperature in Cumming, Georgia (30040) is 107°F (3:40 PM EDT on July 25, 2005). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 55%. Dew Point: 76°F. UV: 8 out of 16 |
| 19:49.41 | blast007 | !weather 53545 |
| 19:49.43 | TheLastSpartan | blast007: The current temperature in Janesville, Wisconsin (53545) is 77°F (2:30 PM CDT on July 25, 2005). Conditions: Heavy Thunderstorm Rain. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 75°F. Wind: NNW at 23 mph (37 km/h). Pressure: 29.89 in (1012 hPa). Visibility: 2.0 miles (3.2 kilometers). UV: 3 out of 16 |
| 19:49.50 | blast007 | tornado warning here :) |
| 19:50.10 | Aribeth | weather.com says its 92, not 107 |
| 19:50.27 | Aribeth | hrmmm |
| 19:55.25 | orange | I don't think it's 107 |
| 19:55.44 | orange | even the heat index is only showing as 98, which I believe |
| 19:55.47 | Aribeth | prolly 92-94 |
| 19:56.41 | wegstar | hnn |
| 19:56.42 | wegstar | hmm |
| 19:56.47 | wegstar | !weather KSFO |
| 19:56.50 | TheLastSpartan | wegstar: The current temperature in San Francisco International, California (94128) is 66°F (11:56 AM PDT on July 25, 2005). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 60%. Dew Point: 52°F. Wind: WNW at 20 mph (32 km/h). Pressure: 29.94 in (1014 hPa). Visibility: 10.0 miles (16.1 kilometers). UV: 10 out of 16 |
| 19:57.32 | Tupone | CBG: whatever you say here remain in the log, even about that girl |
| 19:57.47 | CBG | tupone: I know. :) |
| 19:57.51 | wegstar | :) |
| 19:58.23 | jpa- | i'm sure everyone is grepping the log for CBG now :) |
| 19:58.24 | Tupone | you could ask to remove things for privacy :) |
| 19:58.49 | CBG | maybe she has a think for geeks and says yes? |
| 19:58.54 | CBG | then it wont be private anyway :D |
| 19:58.59 | wegstar | . |
| 19:59.15 | jpa- | CBG: "try everything once" thingie? ,) |
| 19:59.34 | CBG | heh |
| 20:00.43 | CBG | seems it may remain private. :( |
| 20:00.56 | CBG | now I don't just have a crush. i feel crushed. :/ |
| 20:01.22 | jpa- | ahh, crush! that was the word :) |
| 20:01.51 | *** join/#bzflag isabelle (~d41157c4@webchat.bzflag.bz) |
| 20:02.05 | Tupone | ciao isabelle |
| 20:02.34 | Tupone | :( |
| 20:02.41 | wegstar | :P |
| 20:02.53 | jpa- | Tupone: maybe you should wash your teeth |
| 20:03.11 | wegstar | wtf.. some player from webchat.bzflag.bz joined my server |
| 20:03.11 | Tupone | I was starting to decode the ip to see who was from here ... |
| 20:03.51 | jpa- | wegstar: hm? :) |
| 20:04.12 | wegstar | ... |
| 20:06.36 | *** join/#bzflag _Manu_ (~jujibo@98.Red-80-36-59.pooles.rima-tde.net) |
| 20:08.29 | Tupone | Austrian ... we loose an austrian :( |
| 20:08.58 | _Manu_ | an austrian? |
| 20:09.16 | Tupone | isabelle. at least if I decode the ip good |
| 20:09.38 | _Manu_ | oh |
| 20:09.55 | Tupone | but too much complicated to decode it again to be sure. |
| 20:10.17 | jpa- | is it really? |
| 20:10.29 | wegstar | huh? |
| 20:10.32 | jpa- | just run bc, type ibase=16 and paste 2 digits at a time |
| 20:10.59 | blast007 | wegstar: it might have been the list server checking if your server was up |
| 20:11.19 | wegstar | blast007: ok |
| 20:11.26 | wegstar | hmm |
| 20:11.54 | wegstar | windows bzfs still doesn't work with global logins? |
| 20:12.30 | blast007 | it should |
| 20:13.06 | Tupone | jpa-: I did something like this. set hex, type 2 digit *, set dec, type 1000 +, set hex type next digit .... |
| 20:13.28 | Tupone | better then doing 2 digit at time |
| 20:14.14 | Tupone | at least on calculator. perhaps on the shell is better to do 2 digit at time |
| 20:15.22 | menotume | Tupone: why not just use the bot? !decip 213.24.23.123 |
| 20:15.39 | jpa- | !decip d41157c4 |
| 20:15.40 | wegstar | hmm.. I'm getting intermittent results |
| 20:15.40 | TheLastSpartan | jpa-: Don't make me shoot you. |
| 20:15.44 | menotume | made you look !!!!! |
| 20:15.48 | menotume | hehehe |
| 20:15.51 | jpa- | aargh |
| 20:15.54 | jpa- | menotume: meanie |
| 20:16.19 | wegstar | 1. it won't let me spawn or 2. wants me to /identify |
| 20:16.41 | menotume | 3) both of the above |
| 20:16.50 | Tupone | !hexip d41157c4 |
| 20:17.06 | wegstar | yeah.. ty menotume ;) |
| 20:17.21 | menotume | hehe - they all fall for it |
| 20:17.27 | _Manu_ | 4) none of above |
| 20:17.44 | menotume | oh, hexip is there somewhere |
| 20:17.49 | wegstar | well.. I wish :) |
| 20:18.29 | Tupone | !decip d4.11.57.c4 |
| 20:18.30 | TheLastSpartan | Tupone: Don't make me shoot you. |
| 20:18.36 | Tupone | no please |
| 20:19.09 | menotume | ~hexip is useless |
| 20:19.09 | ibot | okay, menotume |
| 20:19.10 | wegstar | hey cool it works |
| 20:19.18 | menotume | nooops |
| 20:19.39 | blast007 | http://blast.game-host.org:10080/sbo.php?ip=d41157c4 |
| 20:20.22 | tavla | d41157c4: Italy, Milano, Tupone |
| 20:20.23 | Tupone | ahhh ... so I decode a wrong IP |
| 20:20.23 | _Manu_ | hehe |
| 20:20.32 | tavla | 212.11.87.196 |
| 20:20.41 | Tupone | well ... but that is worst, we loose an Italian |
| 20:20.43 | jpa- | 212.17.87.196 |
| 20:20.50 | jpa- | austria |
| 20:20.54 | tavla | oops |
| 20:20.55 | menotume | but, that wants hex :) |
| 20:22.44 | menotume | ohhh |
| 20:23.01 | menotume | !hexip 212.80.48.192 |
| 20:23.19 | menotume | disabled here |
| 20:29.51 | Tupone | menotume: do you mind joining alfredo.tupone.dyndns.org |
| 20:33.42 | *** join/#bzflag CBG (~CBG@cpc2-stme1-5-1-cust173.cdif.cable.ntl.com) |
| 20:50.03 | CBG | Okay, someone just trid to login to anon cvs |
| 20:50.09 | CBG | the command is right, buit he got a bash error |
| 20:50.17 | CBG | what might be his problem? |
| 20:51.13 | CBG | any ideas? |
| 20:52.38 | Tupone | anon cvs seems broken |
| 20:52.57 | Tupone | don't know if it is fixed, but it was broken |
| 20:53.08 | blast007 | working for me right now |
| 20:53.15 | CBG | me too. |
| 20:53.28 | CBG | so.. any Other ideas? :P |
| 20:53.50 | blast007 | well, what is the error? |
| 20:53.55 | CBG | could it be he is missing dev tools or something? |
| 20:54.05 | blast007 | or missing CVS |
| 20:54.06 | CBG | like the "cvs" thing? |
| 20:54.08 | CBG | yeah |
| 20:54.11 | CBG | hang on |
| 20:54.18 | CBG | error is "bash: cvs: command not found" |
| 20:54.22 | blast007 | yup |
| 20:54.52 | CBG | so, how does he get it? |
| 20:55.05 | blast007 | with their package manager |
| 20:55.41 | CBG | that rings a bell |
| 20:56.49 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03dtremenak * 10bzflag/data/rogue_icon.png: rogue icon changes from gray to yellow by popular demand |
| 20:58.05 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03dtremenak * 10bzflag/src/bzflag/JoinMenu.cxx: load automatic team icon separately |
| 20:58.57 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03dtremenak * 10bzflag/data/automatic_icon.png: automatic team icon from saturos |
| 20:59.04 | wegstar | . |
| 20:59.32 | CBG | .. |
| 21:00.09 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03dtremenak * 10bzflag/data/Makefile.am: probably want to install that on *nix boxen too |
| 21:00.37 | *** join/#bzflag blast007` (~blast007@24-196-92-143.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com) |
| 21:02.13 | trepan | the automatic icon doesn't look that good at night |
| 21:03.14 | DTRemenak | hm |
| 21:03.20 | trepan | dark on light vs. light on dark |
| 21:03.35 | DTRemenak | he also did a rainbowy one, but at that scale it looks terrible |
| 21:03.49 | DTRemenak | guess I should ask for a black-on gray |
| 21:14.59 | *** part/#bzflag Tupone (~Tupone@Tupone.active.supporter.pdpc) |
| 21:29.03 | TD-Linux_ | I'm here |
| 21:30.50 | TD-Linux_ | anyone else here? |
| 21:32.07 | TD-Linux_ | hello???? |
| 21:32.15 | TD-Linux_ | sigh |
| 21:32.35 | wegstar | hi |
| 21:32.42 | TD-Linux_ | I wish there were away messages |
| 21:32.46 | TD-Linux_ | hi |
| 21:33.12 | TD-Linux_ | TIME |
| 21:33.26 | bryjen | if no one's talking, they're probably away or busy |
| 21:33.30 | TD-Linux_ | oh oh |
| 21:33.33 | TD-Linux_ | I hear thunder |
| 21:33.40 | TD-Linux_ | maybe I shouldn't be on this computer |
| 21:33.58 | TD-Linux_ | oh well, I have a surge panel :P |
| 21:34.37 | TD-Linux_ | will it do any good when lightning comes through the window and strikes my computer, blowing it into tiny pieces and embedding them in my skin? |
| 21:37.42 | purple_cow | i doubt lighting would come through a window :P |
| 21:39.25 | blast007 | TD-Linux_: also, a surge protector won't guard against a direct strike :) |
| 21:49.47 | TD-Linux_ | :( |
| 21:49.56 | TD-Linux_ | it wouldn't, I know |
| 21:50.11 | TD-Linux_ | but it was still fun to type that story |
| 21:52.00 | wegstar | TD-Linux: :) |
| 21:55.38 | purple_cow | brlcad: poke |
| 21:55.53 | brlcad | purple_cow: unpoke |
| 21:56.11 | brlcad | looks like I am able to take the train.. |
| 21:56.46 | purple_cow | brlcad: the hotel is named "mayfair", right? |
| 21:56.50 | TD-Linux_ | huh? |
| 21:56.57 | brlcad | mayfair or mayview something |
| 21:56.58 | purple_cow | brlcad: cool, maybe it won't even derail |
| 21:57.16 | purple_cow | heh, thanks :P |
| 21:58.05 | TD-Linux_ | the thunder is getting close |
| 21:58.28 | TD-Linux_ | how do you set away messages? |
| 21:58.32 | TD-Linux_ | or something like that? |
| 21:58.42 | blast007 | with /away <message> |
| 21:58.53 | TD-Linux_ | testing... send me a message |
| 21:58.54 | purple_cow | aha, looks like it is |
| 21:59.06 | wegstar | thunder? |
| 21:59.12 | blast007 | * [TD-Linux_] is away (hi!) |
| 21:59.16 | TD-Linux_ | is my away message working? |
| 21:59.17 | TD-Linux_ | good |
| 21:59.22 | TD-Linux_ | how do I turn it off? |
| 21:59.27 | blast007 | with google |
| 21:59.34 | TD-Linux_ | *sigh* |
| 21:59.37 | wegstar | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:59.53 | TD-Linux_ | yay, it worke |
| 21:59.54 | TD-Linux_ | d |
| 21:59.59 | TD-Linux_ | freenode said |
| 22:00.05 | TD-Linux_ | does this mean you're really back? |
| 22:00.16 | TD-Linux_ | when you go away, freenode.net says |
| 22:00.17 | wegstar | huh? |
| 22:00.20 | TD-Linux_ | we'll miss you |
| 22:00.24 | wegstar | you mean your client |
| 22:00.27 | TD-Linux_ | no |
| 22:00.30 | TD-Linux_ | the freenode server |
| 22:00.33 | wegstar | O_o |
| 22:00.40 | wegstar | umm.. ok... |
| 22:00.45 | TD-Linux_ | wait |
| 22:00.49 | TD-Linux_ | it could be my client |
| 22:00.57 | TD-Linux_ | or special messages sent from the freenode server |
| 22:01.03 | TD-Linux_ | it's on a different tab |
| 22:01.08 | TD-Linux_ | not on #bzflag |
| 22:01.14 | TD-Linux_ | on freenode, wherever that is |
| 22:01.20 | TD-Linux_ | not a normal channel |
| 22:01.29 | TD-Linux_ | ooh, I hear more thunder |
| 22:01.36 | TD-Linux_ | it's raining hard |
| 22:01.48 | TD-Linux_ | maybe I should turn off the comptuers? |
| 22:01.54 | TD-Linux_ | I see no lightning |
| 22:02.09 | wegstar | dunno |
| 22:02.11 | trepan | yes, you should turn them off to be safe |
| 22:02.17 | TD-Linux_ | bye |
| 22:02.20 | wegstar | bye |
| 22:05.16 | *** join/#bzflag CBG (~CBG@cpc2-stme1-5-1-cust173.cdif.cable.ntl.com) |
| 22:05.20 | bryjen | ~trepan++ |
| 22:05.44 | wegstar | ;) |
| 22:06.06 | wegstar | ~karma trepan |
| 22:06.06 | ibot | trepan has karma of 120 |
| 22:14.24 | purple_cow | brlcad: is the hotel in your name? |
| 22:14.31 | brlcad | yes |
| 22:14.34 | purple_cow | cool |
| 22:15.01 | brlcad | trepan: :) |
| 22:15.08 | purple_cow | my family wanted my itinerary, since my parents will be in europe at the time |
| 22:15.10 | brlcad | purple_cow: your name is on the room too |
| 22:15.15 | trepan | planning on billing any 'odd' expenses to the room? |
| 22:15.41 | brlcad | i doubt this room even has a minibar |
| 22:15.57 | brlcad | not nearly as nice as last year unfortunately |
| 22:16.13 | brlcad | boston will sure to be posh :) |
| 22:17.03 | brlcad | so now I'm stuck in a conundrum of deciding whether I actually can be ready to leave in time on Wednesday for the train |
| 22:17.12 | purple_cow | brlcad: oh, ok |
| 22:18.13 | purple_cow | a hotel room without a minibar? that's crazy talk |
| 22:21.16 | purple_cow | hahaha |
| 22:21.22 | purple_cow | i was looking at the email with my airline reservations |
| 22:21.32 | purple_cow | and the first of gmail's ads was "are airbus planes safe?" |
| 22:21.44 | brlcad | hehe |
| 22:25.36 | *** part/#bzflag bryjen (~bryjen@63.147.94.151) |
| 22:29.12 | *** join/#bzflag Legoguy|L (~Legoguy@adsl-68-77-152-36.dsl.emhril.ameritech.net) |
| 22:42.17 | *** join/#bzflag I_Died_Once (~4588296f@webchat.bzflag.bz) |
| 22:42.42 | I_Died_Once | wassup ladies? |
| 22:46.11 | *** join/#bzflag CBG (~CBG@cpc2-stme1-5-1-cust173.cdif.cable.ntl.com) |
| 22:46.42 | I_Died_Once | Hi CannonBallGIrl |
| 22:47.01 | CBG | Hey I_Died_Loads |
| 22:47.16 | I_Died_Once | Played my pillbox game yet?? |
| 22:47.19 | CBG | sure |
| 22:47.26 | CBG | kinda lost the whole point of mofo |
| 22:47.51 | CBG | Mofo is one of the servers that breaks the rules and give loads of shots, loads of flags, etc. CHaos and Carnage. |
| 22:47.54 | CBG | Not so anymore... :) |
| 22:47.56 | I_Died_Once | I'll run it tonight and tomorrow morning and change it in the a.m. |
| 22:47.59 | CBG | err. :( taher |
| 22:48.06 | CBG | ok. :) |
| 22:48.18 | I_Died_Once | well I still got flags, plus jumping and rico flags |
| 22:48.21 | CBG | s/taher/rather :/ |
| 22:48.27 | I_Died_Once | now how often do you see a server with jumping flags? |
| 22:48.37 | CBG | yeah. but finding Jump and rico flags is hard |
| 22:48.43 | I_Died_Once | or ricochet flags? |
| 22:48.51 | CBG | true... |
| 22:48.54 | I_Died_Once | nthere are three of each, just like most of everything else |
| 22:49.00 | CBG | yeah |
| 22:49.05 | I_Died_Once | nshould I up 'em to five flags each to put them up there with tings? |
| 22:49.06 | CBG | abd aout 15 different flags |
| 22:49.13 | CBG | so it takes 15 to find one... |
| 22:49.15 | I_Died_Once | **wings? |
| 22:49.25 | CBG | true... |
| 22:49.27 | I_Died_Once | well right now, the flag scheme is.... |
| 22:49.35 | I_Died_Once | one geno, one of every bad flag |
| 22:49.38 | I_Died_Once | nfive wings |
| 22:49.44 | I_Died_Once | nand three of everything else |
| 22:49.58 | CBG | ok. not bad. :) |
| 22:50.09 | I_Died_Once | so I might make it five wings, five rico, and five jumps |
| 22:50.17 | I_Died_Once | nand then the rest |
| 22:50.27 | CBG | yeah. better... |
| 22:50.41 | I_Died_Once | Its been pretty busy all day |
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| 22:51.08 | I_Died_Once | someone argued that pillbox is a map and not the style |
| 22:51.17 | CBG | It is really... |
| 22:51.32 | I_Died_Once | and that I am retarded for using the pillbox name |
| 22:51.34 | CBG | just that PillBox was always played with 2 shots, no rico, no jumping, no SFlags. |
| 22:51.42 | I_Died_Once | no, that is ductai |
| 22:51.53 | CBG | sorry. I meant 3. |
| 22:51.57 | CBG | 3 shots. |
| 22:52.00 | CBG | Ducati hase rico. |
| 22:52.04 | I_Died_Once | ductai is a style consisting of 2 shots, random map, no jumping, with rico on |
| 22:52.09 | CBG | Yes. |
| 22:52.29 | I_Died_Once | pillbox is three shots, no jumping, no rico |
| 22:52.31 | CBG | Pill box is an extra shot, no rico and PillBoz map. |
| 22:52.49 | I_Died_Once | there are other pillbox games not on that map |
| 22:53.08 | I_Died_Once | i saw a pillbox game the other day that was like a big circle of pyramids |
| 22:53.15 | CBG | The style was named pillboz because it was the pillbox map. |
| 22:53.22 | CBG | yeah. |
| 22:53.40 | I_Died_Once | well, DTRemenak said it was a style AND a map |
| 22:53.51 | I_Died_Once | anyone else in here wanna comment? |
| 22:54.03 | CBG | Most people would normally only refer to a server as PillBox if it was the pillbox server... but what else you should call it, I dont know. |
| 22:54.09 | CBG | yes. it is both... |
| 22:54.10 | I_Died_Once | is pillbox the name of the map or the name of the playing style? |
| 22:54.18 | CBG | Originally the map. |
| 22:54.26 | CBG | But the map was always played with the same style |
| 22:54.37 | CBG | so that became known as the pillbox style too... |
| 22:54.51 | I_Died_Once | so I could host that map, add superflags, jumping, and death gallore, and still call it pillbox? |
| 22:55.08 | CBG | Yeah... |
| 22:55.15 | CBG | but you might still be called a moron. |
| 22:55.19 | I_Died_Once | that's piss eeryone off I bet |
| 22:55.23 | CBG | True pillbox is the MAP AND the STYLE |
| 22:55.27 | I_Died_Once | still? excuse me? |
| 22:55.33 | CBG | whats the language here please. |
| 22:55.46 | I_Died_Once | well, I'm nothosting "true" pillbox |
| 22:55.56 | I_Died_Once | Its the Passion of the Pillbox |
| 22:55.58 | CBG | <I_Died_Once> and that I am retarded for using the pillbox name |
| 22:56.06 | CBG | retard, moron, whatever. |
| 22:56.27 | I_Died_Once | its pillbox amped up |
| 22:56.39 | CBG | heh |
| 22:56.45 | I_Died_Once | time will tell, i'll post a poll after its been up 24 hours |
| 22:56.51 | CBG | ok |
| 22:57.13 | I_Died_Once | "should I keep the conf and host it again later, or trash it as it waas a failed experiment |
| 22:57.27 | CBG | keep it... |
| 22:57.38 | CBG | if the server was full, it wasnt a failed attempt. |
| 22:57.43 | I_Died_Once | Maybe do a passion ofthe ductai later |
| 22:57.48 | CBG | my opinion isnt so great, ya know? |
| 22:57.48 | I_Died_Once | no... that would mewan a different map |
| 22:58.16 | I_Died_Once | I wanna get a copy of the secretplace language filter file |
| 22:58.29 | CBG | I have _A_ language file... |
| 22:58.33 | I_Died_Once | theirs is 'rhoided up from the normal, defaul one |
| 22:58.52 | CBG | but its the defaut, multilingual. |
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| 22:59.00 | I_Died_Once | I bet it's like.. 3 gigs |
| 22:59.05 | CBG | yeah. theres must have 3 times the number of words. |
| 22:59.32 | I_Died_Once | I could bang on my keyboard and let my cat walk across it and what I say would be censored |
| 22:59.48 | CBG | :) lol |
| 23:00.23 | I_Died_Once | languagefile.txt - 3.7 gigs |
| 23:00.40 | CBG | heh |
| 23:00.45 | I_Died_Once | that's .bz2 |
| 23:01.15 | I_Died_Once | brb |
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| 23:12.09 | I_Died_Once | oh snap |
| 23:12.14 | I_Died_Once | its delusion |
| 23:13.24 | I_Died_Once | ... |
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| 23:16.03 | CBG | folks, if you don't have the "cvs" thingy on a mac, will this do as a substitute: www.maccvs.org ? |
| 23:16.27 | I_Died_Once | no, people on macs aren't cool enough to have CVS version, CBG |
| 23:16.39 | blast007 | ... |
| 23:16.46 | CBG | I_Died_Once. I have the cvs version.... |
| 23:17.03 | CBG | We are talking about the actual thing called "cvs" |
| 23:17.13 | CBG | A-Delusion doesnt have it. |
| 23:17.16 | I_Died_Once | nm, it was a joke |
| 23:17.24 | JeffM2501 | meetings... draining... will...to...live.... |
| 23:17.26 | CBG | so he cant get bzflag cvs |
| 23:17.32 | CBG | hi JeffM2501 |
| 23:17.39 | JeffM2501 | sup |
| 23:18.23 | I_Died_Once | How they hangin' Jeff? |
| 23:18.30 | CBG | A-Delusion doesnt have the "cvs" on his Mac OS 10.3 |
| 23:18.45 | JeffM2501 | little to the lft |
| 23:18.58 | JeffM2501 | he dosn't have the cvs application? |
| 23:19.04 | CBG | yeah |
| 23:19.06 | CBG | seems so. |
| 23:19.08 | JeffM2501 | fink it |
| 23:19.15 | JeffM2501 | or install it with the dev cd |
| 23:19.23 | JeffM2501 | he probably dosn't have gcc then ether |
| 23:19.55 | CBG | fink. k |
| 23:20.04 | JeffM2501 | dev cd first tho |
| 23:20.12 | JeffM2501 | that has much that is needed |
| 23:20.24 | CBG | doesnt have it, right A-Delusion? |
| 23:20.30 | JeffM2501 | then he can't build |
| 23:20.37 | JeffM2501 | no mater if he gets cvs or not |
| 23:20.44 | CBG | oh |
| 23:20.53 | JeffM2501 | he needs the build environment |
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| 23:21.00 | CBG | i dont think I ever used any "dev cd" ? |
| 23:21.10 | Pimpinella | CBG: got your answers? |
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| 23:21.28 | Aribeth | mac os should install the devel stuff by default, not as an addon |
| 23:21.28 | CBG | Pimpinella: hi... answers to what? |
| 23:21.57 | CBG | hmph |
| 23:22.18 | Pimpinella | bzfs, deinstall .app and stuff |
| 23:22.30 | JeffM2501 | Aribeth, it doesn't |
| 23:22.39 | Pimpinella | it diesn't |
| 23:22.52 | Aribeth | it would be nice if it did JeffM2501 |
| 23:22.58 | CBG | pimpinella: the plan is for A-Delusion to get cvs then swap the file, like I did, cause it wasn't very hard. |
| 23:23.43 | JeffM2501 | it would be nice if the OS had games too :) |
| 23:23.50 | CBG | heh. |
| 23:24.07 | Aribeth | yes |
| 23:24.07 | Pimpinella | yeah, as i tols you just replacing the old bzfs by the new one should work |
| 23:24.11 | CBG | not a good joke for this company jeff |
| 23:24.30 | CBG | Pimpi: we were just gonna swap the commands.cxx file |
| 23:24.36 | CBG | but either way. he cant get cvs |
| 23:24.44 | Pimpinella | noooooooooooo |
| 23:24.58 | Pimpinella | don't swap whole files |
| 23:25.14 | JeffM2501 | joke? |
| 23:25.16 | JeffM2501 | no joke |
| 23:25.20 | CBG | jeff: shush. :P |
| 23:25.36 | Pimpinella | make a diff, patch the destiny |
| 23:25.51 | CBG | eh? lol |
| 23:25.53 | CBG | well... |
| 23:26.02 | CBG | first we need to get his cvs version working. |
| 23:26.06 | CBG | or wh |
| 23:26.12 | CBG | -atever |
| 23:26.19 | Pimpinella | the one you made didn't work? |
| 23:27.12 | CBG | did for me |
| 23:27.24 | Pimpinella | you sent it to him, no? |
| 23:27.30 | CBG | it was huge. |
| 23:27.34 | CBG | 170MB |
| 23:27.39 | Pimpinella | ? |
| 23:27.47 | Pimpinella | you didn't strip it |
| 23:27.48 | blast007 | hmm? o.O |
| 23:28.05 | Pimpinella | even then it shouldn't be 170M |
| 23:28.12 | CBG | well it is.... |
| 23:28.39 | blast007 | "(optimization:level ‘size’, debug-symbols:on)" |
| 23:28.50 | blast007 | debug would make it bigger, right? |
| 23:29.09 | blast007 | but still |
| 23:29.18 | Pimpinella | make clean && CXXFLAGS="-O2" ./configure && make |
| 23:29.32 | CBG | ugh. :( |
| 23:29.41 | CBG | with what I have now? |
| 23:30.07 | Pimpinella | from projects root |
| 23:30.18 | Pimpinella | oh, jou don't need bzflag, right? |
| 23:30.21 | CBG | even thoough I already made it? |
| 23:30.29 | Pimpinella | make clean && CXXFLAGS="-O2" ./configure --disable-client && make |
| 23:30.47 | Pimpinella | yeah, even then |
| 23:30.51 | CBG | as one like? |
| 23:30.59 | Pimpinella | ? |
| 23:31.01 | CBG | or is make separat? |
| 23:31.03 | CBG | *line |
| 23:31.46 | Pimpinella | you can use the whole line or give each of those three separately |
| 23:32.03 | CBG | k |
| 23:32.21 | Pimpinella | && means "if the former did fine do the next else exit" |
| 23:32.31 | CBG | ok |
| 23:32.35 | CBG | its going.... |
| 23:34.08 | Pimpinella | 'ls -lh src/bzfs/bzfs' should tell you it's no more than 2M big |
| 23:34.20 | Pimpinella | ater it's finished |
| 23:34.26 | Pimpinella | after |
| 23:34.28 | CBG | will be a while. |
| 23:34.42 | Pimpinella | bedtime, nite |
| 23:34.57 | CBG | bye :) |
| 23:34.59 | CBG | thanls pimpi |
| 23:43.17 | CBG | donw |
| 23:43.23 | CBG | *donw. now its 40MB |
| 23:43.29 | CBG | *done. gah |
| 23:44.11 | CBG | and bzfs is 1M |
| 23:44.37 | blast007 | what is 40MB? |
| 23:44.48 | CBG | Will it work if now I send the (edited) CVS BZFS to someone who has 2.0.2 ? |
| 23:44.55 | CBG | blast the "bzflag" dir |
| 23:45.04 | JeffM2501 | CBG, not my fault apple can't get game devs on board :) |
| 23:45.11 | JeffM2501 | tho they are doing better |
| 23:45.13 | JeffM2501 | they got WoW |
| 23:45.27 | CBG | JEFFM2501: thats somewhat random...? |
| 23:45.31 | JeffM2501 | no |
| 23:45.33 | JeffM2501 | it's just late |
| 23:45.44 | CBG | its early. ;) |
| 23:45.51 | JeffM2501 | delayed |
| 23:45.59 | CBG | hmm? |
| 23:46.11 | CBG | I meant the time. :( |
| 23:46.15 | JeffM2501 | from long before |
| 23:46.32 | CBG | So: Will it work if now I send the (edited) CVS BZFS to someone who has 2.0.2 ? |
| 23:46.41 | blast007 | try it |
| 23:46.50 | CBG | you don't know? |
| 23:46.54 | blast007 | worst case, it doesn't...best case, it does |
| 23:46.55 | CBG | might it mess everything up? |
| 23:46.59 | JeffM2501 | what are you trying to do? |
| 23:47.02 | CBG | heh. k |
| 23:47.19 | blast007 | he's trying to send a custom built bzfs to someone else |
| 23:47.24 | CBG | Jeff: you know RPG was editing it? well, A-D wans the edited bzfs on his mac. |
| 23:47.38 | CBG | blast said it better. :) |
| 23:47.46 | JeffM2501 | your cvs bzfs will require libCURL, 2.0.2 will not |
| 23:47.58 | JeffM2501 | so the person you send it to will need libCURL |
| 23:48.02 | CBG | oh |
| 23:48.21 | JeffM2501 | this is why rpg sould have done it as a plugin |
| 23:48.24 | CBG | which is 17MB. :( |
| 23:48.35 | CBG | JeffM2501: a bit lkate for that :( |
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| 23:48.40 | JeffM2501 | no it's not |
| 23:48.46 | JeffM2501 | but then no plugins on the toy comps |
| 23:48.56 | JeffM2501 | he may have lib curl |
| 23:49.01 | JeffM2501 | send it and see what happens |
| 23:49.08 | JeffM2501 | wors is they ahve to get libcurl |
| 23:49.53 | CBG | they might not? |
| 23:50.19 | blast007 | just try it ;) |
| 23:50.19 | JeffM2501 | they may not have it |
| 23:50.24 | CBG | k |
| 23:50.25 | JeffM2501 | or they may not have the same version |
| 23:50.26 | JeffM2501 | just try |
| 23:50.31 | JeffM2501 | it's not like it'll bite |
| 23:51.28 | CBG | then he just swaps it with His bzfs? |
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| 23:51.40 | JeffM2501 | dosn't mater what he does |
| 23:51.45 | JeffM2501 | bzfs dosn't need any other data |
| 23:51.50 | CBG | ok. |
| 23:51.51 | JeffM2501 | so he can run it from anywhere |