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| 00:05.46 | menotume | ahh, srt, was matching |
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| 00:06.19 | JeffM2501 | it's ok |
| 00:06.30 | menotume | JeffM2501: we have some GU members having problems with golbal login |
| 00:06.50 | menotume | REDNECK, is activated, but says it doesn't work |
| 00:07.06 | menotume | palo too, but i'm not sure that he's properly activated |
| 00:07.30 | menotume | we've gone over the steps with them several times |
| 00:07.43 | JeffM2501 | yeah I sent him a PM |
| 00:07.46 | JeffM2501 | he's got a caching proxy |
| 00:07.51 | menotume | ahhhhh :) |
| 00:07.51 | JeffM2501 | he should try using port 81 |
| 00:07.55 | JeffM2501 | for his list server |
| 00:07.56 | menotume | redneck or palo ? |
| 00:08.00 | JeffM2501 | redneck |
| 00:08.05 | menotume | ok, good |
| 00:08.18 | menotume | i'll remember that - post 81 |
| 00:08.28 | menotume | can u just check that palo is activated ? |
| 00:08.31 | JeffM2501 | palo is activated |
| 00:08.35 | menotume | ok |
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| 00:08.47 | JeffM2501 | a number of ISPs seem to run a caching proxy |
| 00:08.47 | menotume | could be same problem, i'll talk with him - THANKS ! |
| 00:08.55 | JeffM2501 | anytime I see "bad tokeN' that's what it often is |
| 00:09.06 | JeffM2501 | basicly just have them open the config |
| 00:09.13 | JeffM2501 | find my.bzflag.org/db/ |
| 00:09.13 | menotume | okies, so just change the list server port in the config ? |
| 00:09.20 | JeffM2501 | and change it to my.bzflag.org:81/db/ |
| 00:09.24 | JeffM2501 | and remove the # on the line |
| 00:09.27 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 00:09.28 | menotume | right-o :) |
| 00:09.29 | menotume | thanks |
| 00:09.35 | JeffM2501 | removing the # is VERY important |
| 00:09.40 | menotume | :) |
| 00:09.49 | menotume | it defaultss to the #entry, i suppose |
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| 00:10.09 | JeffM2501 | # means ignore me and use the default |
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| 00:13.28 | menotume | ~JeffM2501++ |
| 00:14.35 | JeffM2501 | if my next change works you may give me a -- |
| 00:15.31 | menotume | ~JeffM2501+*5/2-1000 |
| 00:21.38 | JeffM2501 | heh |
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| 00:41.32 | JeffM2501 | DTRemenak, I'm scared |
| 00:41.45 | menotume | JeffM2501: I posted info on this at http://www.gamesunited.de/ib/index.php?act=ST&f=18&t=11017 |
| 00:42.51 | JeffM2501 | looks good |
| 00:42.57 | menotume | thx again :) |
| 00:43.31 | blast007 | menotume: the line actually says this, if you want to be specific: |
| 00:43.32 | blast007 | #set list http://my.BZFlag.org/db/ |
| 00:44.08 | JeffM2501 | yeah it has the http |
| 00:46.57 | menotume | ahhh, thx, i shoulda looked in my config :) |
| 00:47.09 | blast007 | :) |
| 00:49.50 | JeffM2501 | here goes nothin |
| 00:50.17 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/src/bzfs/ (13 files): |
| 00:50.17 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: external plugin system and API for bzfs. |
| 00:50.17 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: allows runtime loadable plugins to install message handalers and do stuff when they are called. |
| 00:50.17 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: API still needs many more functions |
| 00:50.17 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: plugin system only loads windows DLL files ( somone please help with linux ). |
| 00:53.40 | menotume | ahhh, the pandora's box mod :) |
| 00:53.49 | JeffM2501 | totaly |
| 00:53.52 | menotume | hehe |
| 00:55.10 | JeffM2501 | my only saving grace will be that if noone makes it work for linux or generates python bindings |
| 00:55.26 | menotume | hehe |
| 00:55.45 | menotume | errr, what does it do ? |
| 00:55.53 | JeffM2501 | what ever you want it to |
| 00:57.14 | TimRiker | eek. |
| 00:57.17 | menotume | i want it to make me a btter player :) |
| 00:57.25 | JeffM2501 | yeah eek |
| 00:57.41 | JeffM2501 | as soon as I flush out the API, there you can have your server side bots |
| 00:57.43 | TimRiker | and we need that why? |
| 00:57.56 | JeffM2501 | mods |
| 00:58.02 | TimRiker | bots should be server launched, but not part of the same server binary. |
| 00:58.04 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/plugins/shockwaveDeath/ (5 files): |
| 00:58.04 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: sample plugin, shockwaveDeath |
| 00:58.05 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: make a shockwave world weapon happen at the place somone dies at. |
| 00:58.10 | JeffM2501 | TimRiker, they arn't :) |
| 00:58.20 | JeffM2501 | external libs launched by the server |
| 00:58.23 | TimRiker | so why a dll? |
| 00:58.28 | menotume | ahhh, saples are good |
| 00:58.30 | JeffM2501 | cus all I know is C |
| 00:58.42 | TimRiker | so? you can still launch a process. |
| 00:58.44 | JeffM2501 | it can be bound to python simply |
| 00:58.57 | JeffM2501 | it ties itself into events from bzfs |
| 00:59.02 | TimRiker | exec can exec anything. python, perl, etc. |
| 00:59.02 | JeffM2501 | to get input |
| 00:59.07 | JeffM2501 | dosn't need it's own net |
| 00:59.19 | JeffM2501 | it's for much much more then a bot |
| 00:59.21 | TimRiker | it should connect like a client. |
| 00:59.23 | menotume | ya, process with pipes |
| 00:59.24 | JeffM2501 | a bot was just an example |
| 00:59.31 | JeffM2501 | TimRiker, patches welcome :) |
| 00:59.39 | menotume | ROFL ! |
| 00:59.46 | TimRiker | how does it connect now? |
| 00:59.46 | blast007 | hehe |
| 00:59.47 | JeffM2501 | this is a general plugin system |
| 00:59.54 | JeffM2501 | ITS NOT A BOT!!!! |
| 01:00.00 | JeffM2501 | a bot was just an example of what you can do |
| 01:00.04 | TimRiker | agreed. |
| 01:00.05 | JeffM2501 | as a plugin |
| 01:00.05 | TimRiker | how does it connect now? |
| 01:00.11 | JeffM2501 | it dosn't |
| 01:00.27 | TimRiker | do you start a dll with no exectuable that has no connection to bzfs ? |
| 01:00.30 | JeffM2501 | its loaded by the system and the plugin gets a callback to register what ever event handalers |
| 01:00.39 | JeffM2501 | TimRiker, I don't think you get how DLLs work |
| 01:00.44 | JeffM2501 | BZFS loads the lib |
| 01:00.48 | JeffM2501 | the lib registes events |
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| 01:00.55 | JeffM2501 | the lib has the code for handaling the event |
| 01:00.57 | menotume | just like a .so |
| 01:00.58 | TimRiker | I do. you said it's not part of bzfs. that's not the case. |
| 01:01.08 | JeffM2501 | it's not part of the binary or the code |
| 01:01.12 | JeffM2501 | it is part of it's process |
| 01:01.22 | JeffM2501 | its so that mods can be made with out rebuilding the source |
| 01:01.27 | TimRiker | it came from a different binary, but if the dll segfaults, bzfs segfaults. |
| 01:01.37 | JeffM2501 | yeah same process |
| 01:01.46 | TimRiker | so what's the point? |
| 01:01.46 | JeffM2501 | it's like a UT mutilator |
| 01:01.56 | JeffM2501 | it gives you hooks to let multiple mods work together |
| 01:01.58 | TimRiker | you need the source anyway or you don't have the headers. |
| 01:02.06 | JeffM2501 | yeah you would need one header at least |
| 01:02.11 | TimRiker | you need a compiler or you can't build the source. |
| 01:02.14 | JeffM2501 | to build a plugin |
| 01:02.20 | JeffM2501 | but we can distribute binary plugins |
| 01:02.23 | JeffM2501 | for those who can't build |
| 01:02.31 | JeffM2501 | I realy want it hooked to python |
| 01:02.32 | TimRiker | the game is open source, so since you have the source and a compiler, why not use them? |
| 01:02.44 | JeffM2501 | TimRiker, windows users don't have compilers |
| 01:02.56 | TimRiker | binary plugins will just cause folks more grief as they have to match them up. |
| 01:03.00 | JeffM2501 | and this is just a way to make mods more modular |
| 01:03.09 | JeffM2501 | TimRiker, so you don't want it? |
| 01:03.30 | TimRiker | it's not likely that we'd have a stable api, so it's not likely plugins would work on different versions of the server. |
| 01:03.48 | JeffM2501 | TimRiker, the API is abstracted in it's own wraper |
| 01:03.51 | TimRiker | so now instead of wondering what bzfs they are using you also have to ask what plugin(s) they are using. |
| 01:03.52 | JeffM2501 | the backend can change |
| 01:04.12 | TimRiker | and any plugin has the ability to screw up the server in unknown ways as there is no protection. |
| 01:04.25 | JeffM2501 | any patch can do the exact same thing |
| 01:04.25 | TimRiker | an in all a great idea if you like crashing bzfs. |
| 01:04.37 | JeffM2501 | specialy when you mix patches |
| 01:04.43 | JeffM2501 | so don't use plugins on your builds |
| 01:04.49 | JeffM2501 | it's tied to a #def |
| 01:04.51 | TimRiker | agreed. but they _one_ person who has a compiler and the source is at fault. |
| 01:04.51 | menotume | yes, any mod could do the same, but a plugin could be removed ? |
| 01:04.54 | JeffM2501 | it's not built unless you want it |
| 01:05.56 | TimRiker | with the plug in if might be the server's fault (oh, but you didn't build the server) or it might be whoever built the plugin (oh, but he didn't build the server either) so who do you call? both parties will point to the other. |
| 01:06.09 | JeffM2501 | sure |
| 01:06.14 | JeffM2501 | but same happens with patches |
| 01:06.16 | TimRiker | and what is gained? just that. now there are possibly two people to blame instead of one. |
| 01:06.22 | JeffM2501 | here at least it's comparemnatilised |
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| 01:06.41 | JeffM2501 | the likelyhood of compound errors are minimal |
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| 01:06.49 | JeffM2501 | since each only has it's own little space |
| 01:06.50 | TimRiker | whoever builds plugins could just as easily build a new server. then only one person is at fault. |
| 01:07.01 | JeffM2501 | so you don't want it then? |
| 01:07.08 | TimRiker | "own little space" is imaginary. they are the same process. |
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| 01:07.29 | JeffM2501 | it's a lot cleaner then the sourcecode |
| 01:07.38 | JeffM2501 | there is a clean API of what you can get and can do |
| 01:07.49 | JeffM2501 | noone mucking with variables they arn't sure about |
| 01:07.53 | TimRiker | I'm saying that a) I see things that it makes worse and b) I see nothing that it makes better. so without new information, I don't want it. |
| 01:07.56 | JeffM2501 | there is even error checking on the API side |
| 01:08.07 | blast007 | I think it would be cool to dynamically load plugins without having to recompile the whole source tree |
| 01:08.15 | JeffM2501 | BINGO! |
| 01:08.18 | blast007 | :) |
| 01:08.23 | JeffM2501 | and mix and match based on a config seting |
| 01:08.41 | JeffM2501 | one server with shockwave death and one with stat tracking, from the same exe on the system |
| 01:08.42 | blast007 | rotating server with different plugins on each |
| 01:09.12 | JeffM2501 | tag head as 2.1 and let me do it there |
| 01:09.18 | JeffM2501 | if you don't want it in current |
| 01:09.33 | JeffM2501 | it's going to open up a world of mods |
| 01:09.35 | TimRiker | let's call the existing rabbit mode a module. if I run a rabbit game it's "loaded" if I don't, it's not. this is exactly what you are asking for without the new API and multiple upstream providers. |
| 01:09.47 | JeffM2501 | since the DLL method seems to work perfectly fine for quake and halflife |
| 01:09.47 | TimRiker | it's going to open nothing. |
| 01:09.54 | TimRiker | mods can and do happen now. |
| 01:10.10 | TimRiker | the "world of mods" is a world of closed source games. |
| 01:10.21 | JeffM2501 | I disagree |
| 01:10.25 | TimRiker | I don't see the point if you already have all the source. |
| 01:10.30 | JeffM2501 | I see many plugin mods for open source games |
| 01:10.42 | JeffM2501 | TimRiker, our source scares people |
| 01:11.04 | JeffM2501 | but hey if you want to pull the code with out even looking at it or seeing what people can do, your the maintainer |
| 01:11.25 | JeffM2501 | at least plugins can go upward in versions |
| 01:11.28 | JeffM2501 | unlike patches |
| 01:11.56 | TimRiker | that remains to be seen. if the api to the plugins changes, (likely imho) then they can't. |
| 01:12.16 | JeffM2501 | then why not wait and see |
| 01:12.52 | JeffM2501 | at least I didn't put MFC in there :) |
| 01:13.07 | TimRiker | as long as it does not cause more trouble, and folks use it, it can stay. I'm just expressing my opinion. |
| 01:13.22 | JeffM2501 | my opinion is you don't see it's uses |
| 01:13.36 | JeffM2501 | I got the idea from the event system |
| 01:13.42 | TimRiker | I'd feel differently if they ran in a different process space, and the server could live on if a plugin crashed. |
| 01:13.43 | JeffM2501 | interaly I was able to implement features very easaly |
| 01:13.57 | JeffM2501 | by just wraping them in a class |
| 01:14.16 | JeffM2501 | so your worried about individual plugin stability? |
| 01:14.34 | TimRiker | I fail to see how code does more simply by wrapping it in a class. |
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| 01:14.42 | JeffM2501 | well ya see |
| 01:14.48 | JeffM2501 | you'd have to look at the code to see that |
| 01:15.17 | JeffM2501 | define a call back, reg it into the events you care about, and then call what you need. it's very nice. |
| 01:15.53 | bz8537 | quick question. while typing a message, how do I get my tank to stop jumping when I hit the space bar (which is also my jump button)? |
| 01:16.03 | JeffM2501 | sadly you don't :( |
| 01:16.08 | bz8537 | heh....ok |
| 01:16.11 | bz8537 | was afraid of that |
| 01:16.24 | JeffM2501 | arrow keys and mouse still work while typing too |
| 01:16.31 | JeffM2501 | so you can get outa the way while making a message |
| 01:16.43 | menotume | or jump :) |
| 01:16.46 | bz8537 | that may require more coordination than I have ot offer :) |
| 01:16.47 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 01:16.48 | TimRiker | I'd like to also point out that if you are exporting a c++ interface across a .so the compiler version and settings will change how the mangling happens. so plugins will need to be build with the same toolchiain and settings. |
| 01:16.59 | bz8537 | ok welll...back to my game. thanks. |
| 01:17.07 | JeffM2501 | TimRiker, I figured that would happend |
| 01:17.25 | JeffM2501 | I'd like to get an interpreter in for the plugin manager |
| 01:17.28 | blast007 | isn't there a setting to turn off jumping while typing? |
| 01:17.29 | JeffM2501 | that would be best |
| 01:17.35 | blast007 | er, darn...they left |
| 01:17.41 | JeffM2501 | then it would be not compiled |
| 01:17.45 | TimRiker | bz8537: we had it set that way. and then people asked: quick question. while typing a message, how do I get my tank to jump when I hit the space bar without ending my message? |
| 01:17.50 | JeffM2501 | TimRiker, he left |
| 01:17.58 | TimRiker | too late. |
| 01:18.18 | blast007 | "Jumping while typing: on/off" |
| 01:18.49 | TimRiker | JeffM2501: the issue remains. if you export an OOP interface, dlls and .so's don't work that way. |
| 01:19.29 | TimRiker | need something like java or some dcom / rpc++ interfaces use. C++ does not offer it internally. |
| 01:19.35 | JeffM2501 | if the calls are wraped to something like python, or some language that supports objects in it's interpreter then it's not a problem. |
| 01:19.58 | JeffM2501 | I could allways put a C++ parser in bzfs ;) |
| 01:20.21 | TimRiker | it IS a problem. the python bindings will break with differently compiled objects. you have not fixed it, just moved the problem down a level. |
| 01:20.55 | JeffM2501 | then I'll cross that when I come to it |
| 01:21.06 | JeffM2501 | if noone is going to use it it won't be a problem |
| 01:21.12 | TimRiker | heh. agreed. |
| 01:22.09 | TimRiker | well. I'm not saying "remove it". you've heard me out. I hear you. time will tell. ;-) |
| 01:22.20 | JeffM2501 | that it will |
| 01:22.45 | TimRiker | back in a bit. putting the kids to bed. |
| 01:27.14 | blast007 | heh :) |
| 01:27.35 | JeffM2501 | who wanted a SW on death? |
| 01:27.43 | JeffM2501 | didn't someone want that? |
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| 01:36.29 | blast007 | yeah, someone was talking about that |
| 01:37.06 | blast007 | BearPerson was |
| 01:37.16 | JeffM2501 | well it can be done |
| 01:37.33 | JeffM2501 | tho I think I need to understand more about shotIDs |
| 01:39.24 | CIA-9 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/ (4 files in 2 dirs): add time and bzdb querys to API |
| 01:40.16 | CIA-9 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/plugins/shockwaveDeath/shockwaveDeath.cpp: grab reload time for lifetime for on death shockwave |
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| 01:56.51 | spldart | Is JeffM in the house? :-( |
| 02:03.03 | purple_cow | bzflag plugins? |
| 02:03.48 | JeffM2501 | I am |
| 02:03.51 | JeffM2501 | plugins |
| 02:04.31 | JeffM2501 | purple_cow, wait till you see it with MFC :) |
| 02:04.54 | purple_cow | =/ |
| 02:05.23 | JeffM2501 | I kid |
| 02:06.28 | spldart | Sorry.. False BZalarm :) |
| 02:06.36 | JeffM2501 | there is an alarm? |
| 02:06.42 | spldart | I got a handle on my weird issue |
| 02:06.45 | JeffM2501 | is it build into a flashing red BZPhone? |
| 02:06.50 | spldart | Yep |
| 02:06.56 | JeffM2501 | and the BZSignal? |
| 02:07.01 | spldart | With the "our man flint" ring tone |
| 02:07.27 | JeffM2501 | "look 'bulletboy' it's the BZSignal!!! Lets go Old Chum!" |
| 02:07.37 | spldart | LOL |
| 02:08.04 | spldart | I was registering warnings on my client and my internet connection was slow as hell |
| 02:08.13 | spldart | But it's sorted |
| 02:09.03 | JeffM2501 | fun |
| 02:09.17 | spldart | Coolies... Back to 3858 down and 350 up. |
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| 02:10.01 | JeffM2501 | new house is going to have 2 3 meg down 768 up dsls |
| 02:10.06 | JeffM2501 | they were ordered to day :) |
| 02:10.16 | spldart | I heard. I'm jelous |
| 02:10.25 | spldart | But I'm happy with my house too ;) |
| 02:10.30 | JeffM2501 | going to see if we can get one up to 6 megs down |
| 02:10.32 | JeffM2501 | the one for surfing |
| 02:10.58 | spldart | I would like to get a faster connection.... I wonder what roadrunner offers in maybe a business class and what the cost would be. |
| 02:11.15 | spldart | Mainly would like to get 5 down and 1 up |
| 02:11.38 | spldart | I would love to run a nice CTF server. |
| 02:11.55 | JeffM2501 | that a goodly amount of up |
| 02:11.56 | spldart | Maybe 14 players |
| 02:12.08 | spldart | I know :( |
| 02:12.17 | spldart | Probably cost my first born :( |
| 02:12.44 | JeffM2501 | I dono I'm geting 768 up for 27$ a month |
| 02:13.06 | spldart | 1 up would be nice I guess. Apache and bzfs need alot together when I'm hosting something high demand |
| 02:13.40 | spldart | I'm tired of lag when the wife wants to host something on her favorite BB which has extreme traffic and some peeps are playing my map |
| 02:14.28 | spldart | Anywho... Got 19 days uptime this last boot. Which was for troubleshooting purposes :) |
| 02:14.42 | JeffM2501 | heh |
| 02:14.46 | JeffM2501 | that's why I'm geting 2 connections |
| 02:14.48 | JeffM2501 | one for hosting |
| 02:14.53 | JeffM2501 | one for using |
| 02:15.06 | spldart | I can see the advantage |
| 02:17.43 | spldart | Well... Sorry for the false alarm. I'm gonna lie down for a bit... Was in an accident on my kawasaki today heading into work and I'm sore all over :( |
| 02:18.46 | JeffM2501 | :( |
| 02:20.51 | orchid | purple_cow: http://bzgirl.bakadigital.com/images/desktop.png |
| 02:21.15 | JeffM2501 | that is a truly masive desktop |
| 02:21.41 | orchid | tis yep |
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| 02:22.19 | orchid | been playing with purple_cow's newfangled "wallpaper machine" |
| 02:22.39 | orchid | hello Quol |
| 02:22.49 | Quol | hey there all |
| 02:22.55 | Quol | hey there orchid :) |
| 02:23.23 | JeffM2501 | his wallpaper machine is rather cool |
| 02:23.34 | Quol | long time no speal orchid - how are ya? |
| 02:23.57 | orchid | not too shabby Quol, where have you been hiding? |
| 02:24.22 | Quol | ya - been unplugged for a while now... |
| 02:25.17 | orchid | youve missed alot of bzflag changes |
| 02:25.24 | Quol | been trying to spend more time doing other computer related projects (instead of bz'ing my time away...), I actually joined BZA (BzFlag Anonymous) |
| 02:25.42 | orchid | tanks have been replaced by rotating cubes |
| 02:25.53 | orchid | with lasers |
| 02:26.00 | Quol | borgish |
| 02:26.09 | orchid | aahh you mean learning stuff? |
| 02:26.40 | Quol | learning - doing, creating....other things |
| 02:26.45 | orchid | yup |
| 02:27.15 | Quol | I am actually just starting to work on another project that I hope to have a early beta of by the end of the summer - but we will see how that goes... |
| 02:27.53 | Quol | you still working at the same place? |
| 02:28.10 | orchid | yeah, still there |
| 02:28.17 | Quol | how's that going? |
| 02:28.21 | orchid | heh |
| 02:28.27 | orchid | we'll leave it at that |
| 02:28.36 | Quol | lol - OK |
| 02:28.42 | CIA-9 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/src/bzfs/ (bzfsAPI.cxx bzfsAPI.h): |
| 02:28.42 | orchid | but it pays well enough |
| 02:28.42 | CIA-9 | BZFlag: add amdin commands ( kick, IP ban ) |
| 02:28.42 | CIA-9 | BZFlag: increase user info |
| 02:28.42 | CIA-9 | BZFlag: add version and some util functions. |
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| 02:30.33 | orchid | Quol: monday a holiday? |
| 02:31.34 | Quol | orchid: ya, but I am taking tomorrow off instead and working monday - |
| 02:31.39 | Quol | you off monday I guess? |
| 02:31.50 | orchid | hope so yes |
| 02:32.00 | Quol | working lots? |
| 02:32.26 | purple_cow | orchid: :) |
| 02:32.30 | orchid | yes we are getting busy again now so I have to actually do stuff |
| 02:32.59 | purple_cow | orchid: you may want to do that again with a little oversampling |
| 02:33.12 | purple_cow | err, nevermind |
| 02:33.17 | orchid | purple_cow: it was on 2, put it on 4? |
| 02:33.46 | purple_cow | orchid: for some reason i thought it was jaggier than it was. 3 or 4 wouldn't hurt though |
| 02:34.21 | orchid | purple_cow: k, I will let it go overnight like that, cpu dosnt seem to mind |
| 02:36.36 | CIA-9 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/src/bzfs/bzfsPlugins.cxx: |
| 02:36.36 | CIA-9 | BZFlag: unload dlls when we are done with em. |
| 02:36.37 | CIA-9 | BZFlag: make inital linux .so loader |
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| 03:04.42 | JeffM2501 | learner/brlcad ping |
| 03:11.15 | BenUrban | and riddled with bugs |
| 03:11.22 | JeffM2501 | totaly |
| 03:11.34 | BenUrban | and it's all your fault |
| 03:11.39 | JeffM2501 | yup |
| 03:11.49 | JeffM2501 | tho I started the linux .so loader |
| 03:11.57 | BenUrban | not the point |
| 03:12.16 | BenUrban | bzflag is under the gpl though, isn't it? |
| 03:12.21 | JeffM2501 | lgpl |
| 03:12.24 | BenUrban | oh crap |
| 03:12.31 | JeffM2501 | it can be used in closed source projects |
| 03:12.34 | BenUrban | You Idiot (TM) |
| 03:12.42 | BenUrban | well my code is under the GPL |
| 03:12.50 | BenUrban | so if you use my patch, it becomes gpl :D |
| 03:13.05 | JeffM2501 | don't think it works that way |
| 03:13.35 | JeffM2501 | the plugin dosn't need any sourcecode from the game tho |
| 03:13.39 | JeffM2501 | just the interface header |
| 03:13.57 | BenUrban | it links with the game |
| 03:14.01 | JeffM2501 | and you can allways use the event interface from internal |
| 03:14.03 | JeffM2501 | it does |
| 03:14.04 | BenUrban | therefore it falls under the gpl |
| 03:14.12 | JeffM2501 | I don't expect there to be any closed source plugins |
| 03:14.47 | JeffM2501 | how about you speak english and just state your point |
| 03:15.46 | JeffM2501 | so don't use any closed source plugins |
| 03:16.08 | BenUrban | wow that completely misses the point |
| 03:16.15 | JeffM2501 | tho as tim pointed out the binary ones won't run well on nix, so the'll have to release srouce |
| 03:16.19 | BenUrban | there's no choice |
| 03:16.27 | BenUrban | why would they? |
| 03:16.46 | BenUrban | it's entirely possible to create a windows-only plugin |
| 03:16.55 | JeffM2501 | so you think I should limit the ease of expandability just cus you have "a dream" ? |
| 03:17.06 | blast007 | but that would be pointless, considering most server run on 'nix |
| 03:17.13 | JeffM2501 | or are you working tward a "hook up python" point? |
| 03:17.27 | BenUrban | well |
| 03:17.30 | JeffM2501 | I can see a windows only plugin, if the plugiin uses windows only functions |
| 03:17.33 | BenUrban | at least python is cross platform |
| 03:17.44 | BenUrban | how would plugins work in mac os x? |
| 03:17.44 | JeffM2501 | I can also see someone HOOKING PYTHON IN |
| 03:17.55 | JeffM2501 | they wouldbe a .so |
| 03:17.59 | JeffM2501 | compiled on the platform |
| 03:18.09 | JeffM2501 | I fully see pytyon being hooked in as well |
| 03:18.13 | JeffM2501 | I just don't know how to do it |
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| 03:18.18 | JeffM2501 | so I got it ready for it |
| 03:18.37 | JeffM2501 | the API is there to be exported, the load could just change what it does based on the file type |
| 03:19.04 | JeffM2501 | you'd have to do the same work to hook in python or any language |
| 03:19.34 | JeffM2501 | the way it is now, you can just do that python or lua interpreter in it's own plugin, and have that plugin load it's own plugins |
| 03:19.55 | JeffM2501 | I am firmly against using techincal limits to solve social problems. |
| 03:20.07 | JeffM2501 | ok let me do it simple for you |
| 03:20.17 | JeffM2501 | I make a plugin that loads a python file |
| 03:20.18 | JeffM2501 | and runs it |
| 03:20.28 | JeffM2501 | now that plugin is basicly loading more plugins |
| 03:20.34 | JeffM2501 | they are just in python |
| 03:20.39 | BenUrban | ok... |
| 03:21.05 | JeffM2501 | but lets say I want to make a plugin that works with my IIS web server |
| 03:21.13 | JeffM2501 | for that I'd make a windows only plugin |
| 03:21.17 | JeffM2501 | and run it on my server |
| 03:21.21 | JeffM2501 | what's the problem with that? |
| 03:21.37 | BenUrban | hmm |
| 03:21.45 | JeffM2501 | the plugin can't posibly work on linux |
| 03:21.49 | JeffM2501 | since it would use shell services |
| 03:21.54 | BenUrban | i suppose you're right... |
| 03:21.54 | blast007 | mainly IIS, but that's a besides the point ;) |
| 03:22.00 | blast007 | s/a// |
| 03:22.00 | JeffM2501 | but it would have a very limited audience so it's a bad design |
| 03:22.05 | JeffM2501 | but that's not a techincal problem |
| 03:22.21 | JeffM2501 | a better one would be one with libcurl that sent data via HTTP like the list server does. |
| 03:22.47 | JeffM2501 | what I want to see is the plugin manager be able to take python files as well as librarys |
| 03:22.53 | JeffM2501 | and load them in it's own interperter |
| 03:22.57 | JeffM2501 | and expose the same API |
| 03:23.10 | JeffM2501 | but I don't know how to do that |
| 03:23.22 | JeffM2501 | so I'm doing all the other parts that I can |
| 03:23.24 | JeffM2501 | like the API |
| 03:23.30 | BenUrban | ah |
| 03:23.31 | BenUrban | ok |
| 03:23.32 | JeffM2501 | and making sure stuff is callable exernaly |
| 03:24.03 | BenUrban | lol you scared me for a few minutes there |
| 03:24.03 | JeffM2501 | why? |
| 03:24.03 | JeffM2501 | you scared yourself |
| 03:24.05 | BenUrban | heh |
| 03:24.06 | BenUrban | yeah |
| 03:24.16 | JeffM2501 | DLLs are not eveil |
| 03:24.23 | JeffM2501 | they are just as evil as .so |
| 03:24.28 | JeffM2501 | they are just a tool |
| 03:24.37 | JeffM2501 | a way to do dynamic C |
| 03:24.47 | BenUrban | true |
| 03:25.05 | JeffM2501 | they can make applications very flexable |
| 03:25.11 | BenUrban | agreed |
| 03:25.22 | JeffM2501 | like do you want the server to do a shockwave everytime someone dies? |
| 03:25.43 | BenUrban | heh, it might be intersting |
| 03:25.55 | JeffM2501 | it's actualy funner then hell :) |
| 03:26.03 | BenUrban | yeah, sounds like it would be |
| 03:26.04 | BenUrban | lol |
| 03:26.20 | JeffM2501 | the plugins allow stuff like that to be done with out messing with the guts of the code |
| 03:26.22 | JeffM2501 | and making a patch |
| 03:26.41 | JeffM2501 | and hoping that you can apply it to your source that may have changed |
| 03:27.06 | JeffM2501 | the swDeath plugin is realy realy short |
| 03:27.15 | JeffM2501 | have you looked at the code for it? |
| 03:27.29 | JeffM2501 | oh your on anon |
| 03:27.39 | JeffM2501 | so you probably can't see it |
| 03:28.15 | BenUrban | where is it? |
| 03:28.25 | JeffM2501 | in the plugins dir |
| 03:28.31 | BenUrban | oh, in cvs? |
| 03:28.34 | JeffM2501 | ja |
| 03:29.24 | JeffM2501 | all that complaining and you don't even have current code!!!?!? |
| 03:29.26 | BenUrban | out of curiosity, how are the plugins going to identify themselves on the metaserver? |
| 03:29.30 | BenUrban | lol |
| 03:29.34 | JeffM2501 | the what? |
| 03:29.36 | BenUrban | never needed it |
| 03:29.42 | JeffM2501 | metawhat? |
| 03:29.53 | BenUrban | in other games it's called a metaserver |
| 03:30.03 | BenUrban | i guess you call it a listserver |
| 03:30.04 | JeffM2501 | list server? |
| 03:30.07 | JeffM2501 | oh they don't |
| 03:30.12 | JeffM2501 | just like patches don't |
| 03:30.20 | JeffM2501 | they arn't new game mcodes |
| 03:30.30 | JeffM2501 | the list server should do lots of things |
| 03:30.33 | JeffM2501 | but it dosn't |
| 03:30.37 | BenUrban | heh |
| 03:30.55 | JeffM2501 | the server op would put them in the description if the felt the need |
| 03:31.00 | JeffM2501 | not all plugins change gameplay |
| 03:31.06 | BenUrban | well it might be a good idea to expose an api to allow a plugin to identify itself to the listserver if it wants |
| 03:31.12 | BenUrban | true |
| 03:31.24 | JeffM2501 | there is no place in the list server data for it to do so |
| 03:31.37 | JeffM2501 | and you can have N plugins installed and running |
| 03:31.38 | BenUrban | oh, the list server doesn't just use arbitrary text? |
| 03:31.44 | BenUrban | ahh |
| 03:31.44 | JeffM2501 | and each plugin can install N listeners |
| 03:31.49 | JeffM2501 | ohh god no |
| 03:31.55 | JeffM2501 | LS has a very specific format |
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| 03:33.33 | BenUrban | thanks for the clarifications |
| 03:33.40 | JeffM2501 | sure |
| 03:33.43 | JeffM2501 | anytime |
| 03:33.59 | learner | JeffM2501: pong |
| 03:34.12 | JeffM2501 | you got a place to stay out here for siggraph? |
| 03:34.24 | learner | JeffM2501: I have CS now, I could retry the conversion tomorrow if you still need it |
| 03:34.37 | JeffM2501 | cus if not I'll be moving into a house soon, and can see about geting you guys the guest room |
| 03:34.52 | JeffM2501 | learner, ohh found out what it was, mailserver ate the atachment on the PSD |
| 03:35.19 | learner | ahh |
| 03:35.24 | JeffM2501 | and if you have time I'd like to pick your brain about what you know about exporting functions :) |
| 03:35.36 | learner | thx for the offer -- i'll keep it in mind, though I doubt we'll have any trouble |
| 03:35.42 | JeffM2501 | ok |
| 03:35.49 | learner | i was just upset we didn't get headquarters the other day :) |
| 03:36.08 | learner | we're on the waiting list for the closest right now |
| 03:36.18 | JeffM2501 | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:38.01 | purple_cow | is headquarters the same place again? |
| 03:38.25 | JeffM2501 | hmmm debuging may be easyer if I actualy build the client |
| 03:39.34 | learner | yes |
| 03:40.02 | purple_cow | shame |
| 03:40.09 | purple_cow | that's a nice hotel :) |
| 03:40.22 | jpa- | Thumper_: yes |
| 03:40.25 | learner | yeah, it is |
| 03:41.08 | learner | still need to call the other one and see just how expensive their suites are |
| 03:41.33 | learner | if they have a quad under perdiem, it'd work great |
| 03:42.00 | learner | we apparently have 6 going now |
| 03:42.17 | purple_cow | 6? just more arl folks? |
| 03:43.21 | learner | 7 including you |
| 03:43.35 | learner | was 8, but one dropped out |
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| 03:45.04 | jpa- | you can live in my room for free if you clean also |
| 03:45.58 | DTRemenak | ==7047== Conditional jump or move depends on uninitialised value(s) |
| 03:46.06 | DTRemenak | ==7047== at 0x809FECE: WorldEventManager::~WorldEventManager() (WorldEventManager.cxx:119) |
| 03:46.11 | DTRemenak | Segfault on exit |
| 03:46.29 | JeffM2501 | joy and rapture |
| 03:47.15 | JeffM2501 | is that in the delete? |
| 03:47.45 | purple_cow | i'm kind of tickled - i just realized that one of the papers i read for this summer research job is in the 2k4 proceedings book :) |
| 03:49.00 | JeffM2501 | musta got a NULL in there somehow |
| 03:49.08 | CIA-9 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/src/bzfs/WorldEventManager.cxx: don't delete a null |
| 03:49.25 | MeBigFatGuy | can you delete while iterating? |
| 03:49.29 | MeBigFatGuy | seems hinkey |
| 03:49.41 | JeffM2501 | it's just deleteing the pointer IN the iterator |
| 03:49.44 | JeffM2501 | not the iterator itself |
| 03:49.47 | CIA-9 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/src/bzfs/WorldEventManager.cxx: really make sure you don't delete a null |
| 03:49.48 | MeBigFatGuy | seems like you need to have two iterators, and delete the old one |
| 03:50.00 | JeffM2501 | the iter isn't geting deleted |
| 03:50.04 | JeffM2501 | notice the * |
| 03:50.07 | MeBigFatGuy | i realize that |
| 03:50.11 | MeBigFatGuy | but the collection is being changed |
| 03:50.12 | JeffM2501 | it's an iter of pointers |
| 03:50.15 | MeBigFatGuy | out from under the iter |
| 03:50.24 | JeffM2501 | how? |
| 03:50.36 | JeffM2501 | iter should not care what inside it |
| 03:50.42 | MeBigFatGuy | ah ok |
| 03:50.51 | MeBigFatGuy | it's not a remove |
| 03:50.55 | JeffM2501 | no |
| 03:51.04 | JeffM2501 | just a delete on the object pointer that is inside itr |
| 03:51.23 | JeffM2501 | when it's done itr is still the same size, just full of null pointers in each element |
| 03:51.30 | MeBigFatGuy | k |
| 03:51.31 | JeffM2501 | then the entire vector is clearned |
| 03:51.43 | JeffM2501 | maybe he got a null in there somehow |
| 03:51.48 | JeffM2501 | that's all I can think of |
| 03:52.20 | MeBigFatGuy | you hope it's null, and not just a pointer to an already deleted object |
| 03:52.31 | JeffM2501 | thats why I made the last change |
| 03:52.38 | JeffM2501 | force it to null after delete |
| 03:52.39 | JeffM2501 | to make sure |
| 03:52.55 | JeffM2501 | ohh I see the bugt |
| 03:53.14 | JeffM2501 | ++ is in the conditional |
| 03:53.23 | MeBigFatGuy | oops |
| 03:54.04 | CIA-9 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/src/bzfs/WorldEventManager.cxx: as the fat man says "oops" |
| 03:54.19 | MeBigFatGuy | indeedy |
| 03:54.31 | Thumper_ | jpa: ping |
| 03:54.34 | JeffM2501 | and that didn't even have to do with plugins :) |
| 03:55.26 | Thumper_ | jpa-: any chance to want to remove Rogues on your box.kapsi ctf server? |
| 03:59.39 | MeBigFatGuy | void WorldEventManager::addEvent ( teEventType eventType, int team, BaseEventHandaler* theEvetnt ) |
| 03:59.53 | JeffM2501 | kept it sort :) |
| 03:59.56 | JeffM2501 | short |
| 03:59.57 | MeBigFatGuy | way to support the dev platform of choice |
| 04:00.14 | MeBigFatGuy | "theEvetnt" |
| 04:00.35 | JeffM2501 | well that is a mispelling |
| 04:00.41 | JeffM2501 | bz uses "event" elsewhere |
| 04:00.41 | MeBigFatGuy | ooooh, never mind |
| 04:00.43 | JeffM2501 | so I had to do something |
| 04:00.53 | DTRemenak | someone's gonna have to spellcheck all his code at the same time they correct his whitespace :) |
| 04:01.09 | MeBigFatGuy | BaseEventHandaler |
| 04:01.12 | JeffM2501 | I live to fill the worklog of Capt. WS :) |
| 04:01.23 | DTRemenak | teEventType |
| 04:01.30 | DTRemenak | and that's just one line :) |
| 04:01.34 | MeBigFatGuy | gotta love him |
| 04:02.17 | JeffM2501 | now to just figure out how to make the plugin on n ix |
| 04:03.12 | JeffM2501 | cus I'm lazy |
| 04:03.27 | JeffM2501 | and I coudln't make you feel left out |
| 04:04.09 | MeBigFatGuy | heh |
| 04:04.12 | JeffM2501 | hmm seems -rdyanmic is what I want |
| 04:04.59 | JeffM2501 | anyone want to help me with make files? |
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| 04:16.11 | CIA-9 | BZFlag: 03dtremenak * 10bzflag/src/bzflag/HUDRenderer.cxx: don't use delete where delete[] should be used |
| 04:26.41 | CIA-9 | BZFlag: 03dtremenak * 10bzflag/src/bzflag/ (Plan.cxx Plan.h): delete that which is new'ed |
| 04:32.16 | CIA-9 | BZFlag: 03dtremenak * 10bzflag/src/platform/PlatformFactory.cxx: delete that which is new'ed |
| 04:38.31 | CIA-9 | BZFlag: 03dbrosius * 10bzflag/src/ (21 files in 5 dirs): warnings |
| 04:44.16 | CIA-9 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/ (4 files in 2 dirs): add a chat event calling it to let any event listeners modify the chat message before it goes out ( for plugin type filters, and so DTR can make a !!! kicker ) |
| 04:44.38 | DTRemenak | heh |
| 04:44.55 | JeffM2501 | it now has all the functions you' need to do one |
| 04:45.07 | DTRemenak | actually the particular guy I was thinking about is more like "nobody's listening to me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" |
| 04:45.15 | JeffM2501 | gee I wonder why |
| 04:45.25 | DTRemenak | when he said that I muted him :) |
| 04:45.31 | JeffM2501 | need to make it so plugins can mute people |
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| 04:59.06 | BenUrban | ~seen teal^c |
| 04:59.08 | ibot | BenUrban: i haven't seen 'teal^c' |
| 04:59.30 | BenUrban | oh well |
| 05:11.43 | CIA-9 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/ (2 files in 2 dirs): |
| 05:11.43 | CIA-9 | BZFlag: log plugin loads to debug 1 |
| 05:11.43 | CIA-9 | BZFlag: log sample plugin call to debug 3 |
| 05:15.12 | DTRemenak | bzfsEvents.cxx: In member function `virtual void PlayHistoryTracker::process(BaseEventData*)': bzfsEvents.cxx:133: warning: enumeration value `eChatMessageEvent' not handled in switch |
| 05:15.25 | JeffM2501 | bahh |
| 05:15.27 | JeffM2501 | just added that |
| 05:15.28 | JeffM2501 | one sec |
| 05:16.57 | CIA-9 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/src/bzfs/bzfsEvents.cxx: default is best |
| 05:18.40 | CIA-9 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/src/bzfs/bzfsPlugins.cxx: nix needs some kind of "header" I guess for it's lib loaders |
| 05:22.12 | CIA-9 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/src/bzfs/bzfsPlugins.cxx: just use the headers we need, not the big ones |
| 05:27.26 | CIA-9 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/src/bzfs/bzfsPlugins.cxx: typecast those function pointers |
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| 05:41.12 | JeffM2501 | I'm just trying to see if the bloody thing even works |
| 05:41.45 | DTRemenak | has to build before you can see if it works :) |
| 05:41.46 | JeffM2501 | odd that it built for me tho |
| 05:41.49 | JeffM2501 | it did |
| 05:41.56 | JeffM2501 | have a .so right here |
| 05:42.02 | DTRemenak | odd indeed |
| 05:42.20 | JeffM2501 | I trust your makefile more then mine |
| 05:42.29 | DTRemenak | shouldn't have built, you didn't tell it to use any source files :) |
| 05:42.39 | JeffM2501 | thought that was odd |
| 05:42.47 | JeffM2501 | had copied it from an example lib makefile I had |
| 05:42.49 | DTRemenak | you had probably already built the .o with gcc? |
| 05:43.00 | JeffM2501 | didn't remember doing it |
| 05:43.52 | JeffM2501 | http://www.jdkoftinoff.com/main/Articles/Linux_Articles/ELF_Plugins/index.php |
| 05:44.00 | JeffM2501 | that's what I'm basing this all on |
| 05:45.17 | CIA-9 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/src/bzfs/bzfsPlugins.cxx: do what the man page says for casting it's much cooler |
| 05:46.15 | JeffM2501 | it won't build the api and plugins in bzfs unless you change your config |
| 05:47.14 | JeffM2501 | I tied all of the plugin stuff to _USE_BZ_API |
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| 06:23.47 | CIA-9 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/ (6 files in 2 dirs): |
| 06:23.47 | CIA-9 | BZFlag: add custom slash commands |
| 06:23.47 | CIA-9 | BZFlag: add unhandled slash command event |
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| 06:54.17 | CIA-9 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/src/bzfs/bzfsPlugins.cxx: more debug info |
| 06:54.28 | Tupone | hola _Manu_ |
| 07:04.20 | CIA-9 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/src/bzfs/bzfsAPI.h: expose unhandled / command to API |
| 07:05.06 | CIA-9 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/plugins/bzAPI.txt: rough draft at API docs |
| 07:24.31 | _Manu_ | Tupone, Hola! |
| 07:25.33 | _Manu_ | wow JeffM2501, send all your commits in one step ;) |
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| 07:29.12 | JeffM2501 | smaller steps help others merge, and find problems |
| 07:30.07 | purple_cow | plus it reduces the chances of screwing up something big locally, so it speeds up development |
| 07:30.09 | _Manu_ | yes I know, only kidding :) |
| 07:30.35 | JeffM2501 | and helps push us up the total commits list :) |
| 07:30.41 | _Manu_ | heh |
| 07:31.49 | CIA-9 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/src/bzfs/ (bzfsAPI.cxx bzfsAPI.h): |
| 07:31.49 | CIA-9 | BZFlag: no exported classes |
| 07:31.49 | CIA-9 | BZFlag: externs for the *nix |
| 07:32.29 | JeffM2501 | so very very close |
| 07:33.45 | purple_cow | the UTC night is *very* young ;) |
| 07:34.56 | JeffM2501 | sadly I have work tomorow |
| 07:49.36 | CIA-9 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/plugins/shockwaveDeath/Makefile: get the dynamic link on |
| 07:52.49 | CIA-9 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/src/bzfs/commands.cxx: linux STL dosn't have a map::erase that returns an iterator, so we remove it. |
| 07:52.51 | JeffM2501 | well I think that I may be done for one night |
| 07:53.06 | JeffM2501 | linux link problems be damned |
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| 08:06.48 | _Manu_ | Pimpinella, moin moin |
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| 08:07.38 | Pimpinella | buenos dias _Manu_ |
| 08:08.01 | jolie | manu manu buenos dias bonito :) |
| 08:08.22 | _Manu_ | buenos dias jolie, guapa :) |
| 08:09.02 | jolie | i hate HATE hate *** bugs. |
| 08:10.41 | _Manu_ | remove the H :) |
| 08:11.46 | jolie | well i actually that happenlast week :S |
| 08:13.15 | jolie | segun hecha la miss atletica , me trepe en una silla para pegar una parte del papel tapiz ... se me mueve la silla , me kede colgada de la ventana... y mientras gritaba.. un bug tuvo su joyride en mi boca :S |
| 08:13.51 | _Manu_ | heh |
| 08:15.28 | _Manu_ | una buena fuente de proteinas :) |
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| 09:00.44 | Pimpinella | what is bzfsAPI for? |
| 09:01.02 | Pimpinella | oh, plug in system? |
| 09:02.33 | Pimpinella | i love JeffM's ideas |
| 09:03.02 | Pimpinella | he's always good for the real innovations |
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| 09:50.05 | bz0702 | i need help... |
| 09:50.23 | bz0702 | the service gives always me a warning: |
| 09:50.34 | bz0702 | your lag is too high |
| 09:50.45 | bz0702 | what i have to change in the settings? |
| 09:50.52 | jolie | lol* |
| 09:50.52 | bz0702 | to solve this problem? |
| 09:54.03 | _Manu_ | try ping to the server for known the real lag |
| 10:00.13 | Tupone | a slow machine, a slow configuration or a slow network |
| 10:00.39 | bz0702 | thanx a lot |
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| 10:28.38 | Chestal | wie wär's, wenn wir hier so um viertel vor aufbrechen? |
| 10:28.57 | Chestal | oops |
| 10:29.48 | opmrcrabgf | .... tja |
| 10:30.44 | opmrcrabgf | viertel is zu viel.. eine dritte its besser. |
| 10:30.47 | opmrcrabgf | and oops |
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| 11:57.47 | ruskie | hmmm nice to know I'm not the only one from .si around here |
| 12:12.35 | jpa- | Thumper_: river? no |
| 12:12.53 | jpa- | Thumper_: my sister would kill me, and i fear her more than you |
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| 13:09.32 | Thumper_ | jpa-: hehe |
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| 14:42.44 | spldart | Morning |
| 14:42.54 | Grumbler | morning |
| 14:47.11 | spldart | Did your nuclear device go off as you slumbered jpa- ? |
| 14:47.57 | spldart | aww :-p |
| 14:48.15 | jpa- | spldart: actually i was just wondering why i had these bad sunburns... |
| 14:48.17 | spldart | aaahhh! *runs away* |
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| 14:48.31 | jpa- | spldart: come on, he is just a normal person |
| 14:48.32 | spldart | Vampires can live through anything |
| 14:48.51 | spldart | ;) |
| 14:48.59 | jpa- | sd264: are you sgk284 in disguise? |
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| 15:41.13 | jolie | aw aw my tupo.. |
| 15:43.07 | JeffM2501 | no not tupone..... |
| 15:43.12 | JeffM2501 | who ever will help me now |
| 15:43.19 | jolie | me me |
| 15:43.21 | jolie | pick me! |
| 15:43.22 | jolie | ME |
| 15:43.37 | jolie | <PROTECTED> |
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| 15:45.46 | JeffM2501 | you know anything about dynamic linking on linux? |
| 15:46.34 | das_bender | ln? |
| 15:46.42 | jolie | on? |
| 15:46.44 | JeffM2501 | no |
| 15:46.46 | JeffM2501 | like runtime |
| 15:46.48 | JeffM2501 | in code |
| 15:46.54 | das_bender | no, sorry |
| 15:47.11 | JeffM2501 | like an exe that loads a library and the that library links to functions defined back in the same exe |
| 15:47.31 | JeffM2501 | it's how shall I say "oh so fun" |
| 15:47.40 | das_bender | heh, i know even less about windows |
| 15:48.05 | jolie | jeffy it is so fun |
| 15:48.14 | JeffM2501 | on windows it's done and works |
| 15:48.22 | JeffM2501 | just need linux |
| 15:48.39 | das_bender | i hate to refer you to google, but... |
| 15:48.43 | das_bender | :) |
| 15:49.09 | JeffM2501 | ohh I've done the reading |
| 15:49.15 | JeffM2501 | but I can't get it to work |
| 15:49.19 | bryjen | are you forgetting about the Mac or hoping a general *nix solution gets them too? |
| 15:49.47 | JeffM2501 | mac is next |
| 15:49.56 | das_bender | yeah, dont forget about the 1% of us |
| 15:49.58 | JeffM2501 | can only do one at a time :) |
| 15:50.22 | JeffM2501 | mac can use a so like linux |
| 15:50.31 | JeffM2501 | so I am hoping the mac solution will be similar |
| 15:50.52 | JeffM2501 | last night I got the plugin to build, and load into bzfs, but it can't call anything that is defined in bzfs |
| 15:51.00 | JeffM2501 | so I'm part way there |
| 15:52.29 | JeffM2501 | I think I just need to change the way some stuff links in bzfs but I am not sure |
| 15:52.34 | JeffM2501 | and the bzfs makefile scares me |
| 15:54.39 | JeffM2501 | that's how the so is read |
| 15:54.41 | JeffM2501 | and that is working |
| 15:55.10 | JeffM2501 | there was also this thing |
| 15:55.11 | JeffM2501 | http://www.jdkoftinoff.com/main/Articles/Linux_Articles/ELF_Plugins/index.php |
| 15:56.32 | BenUrban | JeffM2501: actually in mac it's called a dylib |
| 15:56.34 | BenUrban | fyi |
| 15:56.47 | JeffM2501 | ahh |
| 15:57.11 | JeffM2501 | well all the plugin loading is in it's own file, so that it can be done for each OS |
| 16:00.06 | JeffM2501 | sadly bzfs dosn't have a "platform" class I could put the loaders in |
| 16:01.51 | JeffM2501 | Grumbler, was it somone fearing the change? |
| 16:05.16 | spldart | Anyone else having problems with a player who always has 'Xar' somewhere in their name? |
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| 16:08.48 | bryjen | Ok, so how do I get bzfs to load/use the plugin? |
| 16:09.14 | JeffM2501 | -loadplugin path/file/to/plugin |
| 16:09.25 | bryjen | ah |
| 16:09.35 | JeffM2501 | the sample plugin will log a message at debug level3 |
| 16:09.39 | JeffM2501 | if it loads |
| 16:09.46 | jolie | JeffM2501: whats ur prob exacly? |
| 16:09.50 | JeffM2501 | and then make a SW at the place everyone dies at :) |
| 16:10.15 | JeffM2501 | jolie, it dosn't work, get errors in the plugin saying undefined external for functions defined in bzfs |
| 16:10.38 | JeffM2501 | works just fine on windows |
| 16:10.47 | JeffM2501 | but then I also know how to properly export functions on windows. |
| 16:10.52 | jolie | yeah yeah .. linux is another level i would say ;) |
| 16:11.09 | JeffM2501 | it "should" work. if it's set up right |
| 16:11.42 | jolie | yes yes.. |
| 16:12.04 | jolie | are you sure the functions are not declared "static" ? |
| 16:12.10 | JeffM2501 | yep |
| 16:12.17 | Chestal | what's the + in the message when I get shot? |
| 16:12.19 | jolie | and the plugin needs to be compiled with -rdynamic |
| 16:12.42 | JeffM2501 | jolie, that's what I was playing with last night when I finlay went to sleep |
| 16:12.55 | jolie | kay so this is ur prob? |
| 16:13.07 | JeffM2501 | may be |
| 16:13.18 | JeffM2501 | I know I did the bzfs -rdyanmic |
| 16:13.24 | JeffM2501 | don't remember if I did the plugin |
| 16:13.34 | jolie | ... |
| 16:13.37 | JeffM2501 | all exported functions are defined extern |
| 16:13.50 | JeffM2501 | sadly I don't have the same linux system here ( I'm at work now ) |
| 16:14.55 | jolie | to compile with -rdynamic you jsut need to add it to gcc flags |
| 16:14.58 | jolie | hm hm .. |
| 16:15.45 | JeffM2501 | yeah well that thar bzfs makefile scares the hell outa me |
| 16:15.58 | bryjen | AM_LDFLAGS in Makefile.am |
| 16:16.01 | JeffM2501 | ohh bryjen you allso need to define _USE_BZ_API in your config.h |
| 16:16.07 | bryjen | its a linker flag |
| 16:16.09 | jolie | well be a man and ... you know. digg it. |
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| 16:16.18 | JeffM2501 | or bzfs won't even try to load the plugins |
| 16:16.23 | bryjen | Ah. |
| 16:16.34 | JeffM2501 | sorry had forgoten that |
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| 16:16.49 | JeffM2501 | hooked it to that so it wouldn't screw anyone up who wasn't trying to use it |
| 16:17.07 | JeffM2501 | you may also have to add the bzfsAPI and bzfsPlugins files to the make |
| 16:17.14 | JeffM2501 | I didn't commit my make file |
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| 16:31.43 | jolie | nooo mi manu manu ... |
| 16:31.48 | jolie | oh well.. |
| 16:33.01 | jolie | yeah i know.. but ur too hot to .. chase ya ;) |
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| 16:33.28 | jolie | manu manu bonito :D |
| 16:36.49 | Grumbler | JeffM2501, dont really know, it was a little ubiquitous |
| 16:42.01 | jolie | no jpa- if you hug me ull grow hopes on me, and ur way outta my league, as said b4 ur too hottie :) |
| 16:42.20 | Thumper_ | too* |
| 16:42.40 | jpa- | jolie: i hot? wish you knew :) |
| 16:45.12 | JeffM2501 | Grumbler, if it was the riker, it may not have been good ;) |
| 16:46.37 | JeffM2501 | how do you know I'm not outa your league? |
| 16:47.02 | jpa- | i care not about leagues, i just hug everyone |
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| 16:47.22 | jolie | fresh guy |
| 16:47.31 | jpa- | ..of course you are special, unlike anyone else |
| 16:47.41 | JeffM2501 | well some people in this world could use more hugs |
| 16:47.44 | CIA-9 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/plugins/shockwaveDeath/Makefile: make the plugin have that thar dynamic flag |
| 16:47.52 | Grumbler | JeffM2501, it wasnt riker, it was a big pimple |
| 16:48.19 | spldart | JPA- has had to much MDMA 8-O |
| 16:49.11 | jpa- | spldart: the white pills? |
| 16:49.14 | bryjen | multiword direct memory access? |
| 16:49.18 | jpa- | they are just vitamins |
| 16:49.32 | spldart | Happy little vitamins ;) |
| 16:51.11 | Grumbler | oh, that http://www.mdma.net/ |
| 16:52.01 | jpa- | even the molecule looks happy 8> |
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| 16:54.24 | JeffM2501 | here goes the make |
| 16:55.26 | bryjen | mine won't load the plugin. not finding bz_Load |
| 16:55.41 | JeffM2501 | the makefile for the plugin may be wrong |
| 16:55.49 | JeffM2501 | I just changed mine localy and am trying |
| 16:56.04 | JeffM2501 | finaly got libcurl installed on this new server |
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| 16:56.38 | bryjen | i've put -rdynamic in the link flags for bzfs |
| 16:56.45 | jpa- | since when has bzflag had plugins? |
| 16:56.49 | JeffM2501 | yesterday |
| 16:56.58 | JeffM2501 | about 4pm PST |
| 16:57.01 | bryjen | well, today or tomorrow maybe ;) |
| 16:57.13 | spldart | mmmMMMmmm plugins |
| 16:57.19 | JeffM2501 | they have worked on windows since yesterday at least :) |
| 16:57.30 | jpa- | and what can we plug in? |
| 16:57.37 | JeffM2501 | read the docs |
| 16:57.42 | bryjen | bah. insignificant fringe platform ;) |
| 16:57.58 | spldart | Docs? where may I observer these? |
| 16:58.09 | JeffM2501 | as MAC says, "dev platform of choice" :) |
| 16:58.24 | JeffM2501 | doc is in the plugins dir |
| 16:58.28 | JeffM2501 | tho it's not done yet |
| 16:58.28 | bryjen | just don't plugin anything while you are in the bath |
| 16:58.31 | bryjen | ;) |
| 16:58.36 | ruskie | lol |
| 16:58.38 | spldart | bbzzzzzzt |
| 16:59.57 | BIYA | AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHh |
| 16:59.57 | JeffM2501 | http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/*checkout*/bzflag/bzflag/plugins/bzAPI.txt |
| 16:59.59 | BIYA | :) |
| 17:00.04 | JeffM2501 | that's the inital docs |
| 17:00.16 | spldart | sweet |
| 17:00.20 | JeffM2501 | dosn't show the entire API tho |
| 17:00.57 | JeffM2501 | need to add events for stuff like "I need a spawn" and API to get world info |
| 17:01.05 | JeffM2501 | and ways to get the score |
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| 17:03.13 | spldart | ponders the possiblities |
| 17:03.30 | JeffM2501 | basicly anything that can be done serverside |
| 17:03.46 | JeffM2501 | the sample plugin makes a SW fire when ever somone dies |
| 17:04.02 | JeffM2501 | it could be used for enhanced loging |
| 17:04.09 | JeffM2501 | piping chat to IRC |
| 17:04.22 | JeffM2501 | tracking player stats directly into a database |
| 17:04.38 | spldart | Very cool |
| 17:04.38 | JeffM2501 | modifying the game types my changing the scoring |
| 17:04.45 | JeffM2501 | they can even kick and ban |
| 17:05.29 | ruskie | hmmm sw fire when someone dies... |
| 17:05.32 | ruskie | that sounds nice... |
| 17:05.39 | ruskie | I always wanted something like that |
| 17:05.45 | das_bender | heh |
| 17:05.50 | spldart | woah |
| 17:05.56 | JeffM2501 | the code for it was super simple |
| 17:06.10 | spldart | a bzfs that can auto ban for say... nazi comments or the like |
| 17:06.24 | JeffM2501 | yeah you could make a plugin that watches chat |
| 17:06.33 | JeffM2501 | there is an event that will give the plugin all chat messages |
| 17:06.47 | JeffM2501 | yeah you can do that too |
| 17:06.57 | spldart | sweet |
| 17:07.02 | das_bender | you could proabaly "score" the bad things they say |
| 17:07.08 | das_bender | then after a certain amount |
| 17:07.13 | das_bender | ... |
| 17:07.23 | JeffM2501 | ToughShooter, that is what we are working on now |
| 17:07.30 | JeffM2501 | making the code build and link on linux, then mac |
| 17:07.33 | spldart | imagines a auto AI plugin that calls the game in play like a announcer |
| 17:07.41 | das_bender | heh |
| 17:07.45 | JeffM2501 | spldart, primary reason I made it |
| 17:07.52 | spldart | Really?! |
| 17:07.55 | spldart | sweet |
| 17:07.57 | JeffM2501 | I did a UT style killing spree feature |
| 17:08.06 | JeffM2501 | then figured could just make it as a plugin |
| 17:08.21 | JeffM2501 | that will be the next sample plugin |
| 17:08.24 | ToughShooter | JeffM2501: It won't build when only fixing errors in new code on mac |
| 17:08.26 | ruskie | *droooooooolllssss* |
| 17:08.29 | JeffM2501 | as soon as it's working on other plats |
| 17:08.37 | das_bender | JeffM2501: how goes opencombat? |
| 17:08.39 | spldart | YES! |
| 17:08.40 | JeffM2501 | ToughShooter, huh? |
| 17:08.46 | JeffM2501 | das_bender, slow slow |
| 17:08.51 | das_bender | :( |
| 17:08.59 | ToughShooter | JeffM2501:http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1203872&group_id=3248&atid=303248 |
| 17:09.04 | das_bender | i wish i had some coding abilty to contribute |
| 17:09.29 | das_bender | no time to learn :( |
| 17:09.32 | ToughShooter | Mac OS X 10.4 comes with gcc4 |
| 17:09.42 | ruskie | cute |
| 17:09.44 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 17:09.47 | JeffM2501 | but you can also change back |
| 17:09.58 | JeffM2501 | learners said he checed in all the changes needed to build on 10.4 |
| 17:10.04 | JeffM2501 | even in GCC4 |
| 17:11.58 | JeffM2501 | nor did I |
| 17:12.00 | JeffM2501 | it was a while ago |
| 17:12.05 | JeffM2501 | when I gave him time on my mini |
| 17:12.14 | JeffM2501 | I haven't tried in a while |
| 17:15.12 | ToughShooter | I made the patch when the compiling still had failed |
| 17:17.03 | JeffM2501 | what didn't it like? |
| 17:17.55 | ToughShooter | It have been too much "};"s |
| 17:18.09 | ToughShooter | More used than allowed |
| 17:18.34 | JeffM2501 | that would not be good :) |
| 17:19.27 | ToughShooter | Makefiles still make gcc put out roughly 1/3 warnings in all output while compiling |
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| 17:20.06 | JeffM2501 | why isn't the xcode project used? |
| 17:20.30 | ToughShooter | http://pastebin.com/287042 |
| 17:20.55 | ToughShooter | I don't use xcode; it requires sdl-frameworks to be installed, too |
| 17:21.51 | ToughShooter | I already installed sdl source distribution so I'm not going to install the mac frameworks, too |
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| 17:23.43 | JeffM2501 | well I'm down to this error, ./src/bzfs/bzfs: relocation error: plugins/shockwaveDeath/shockwavedeath.so: undefined symbol: bz_debugMessage |
| 17:23.45 | ToughShooter | Hmm, my patch seems not necessary now :/ |
| 17:23.46 | JeffM2501 | got the plugin loading |
| 17:24.03 | JeffM2501 | but gives me that when it trys to call a function in bzfs |
| 17:25.17 | das_bender | no bz_debugMessage? |
| 17:25.28 | JeffM2501 | that is defined in bzfs |
| 17:25.31 | JeffM2501 | and exported |
| 17:25.42 | das_bender | hrmm |
| 17:25.51 | das_bender | any way you can verify that? |
| 17:25.56 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 17:26.05 | JeffM2501 | call it in windows |
| 17:26.09 | JeffM2501 | right from bzfs |
| 17:26.33 | das_bender | thats odd then |
| 17:26.34 | bryjen | hrm |
| 17:26.49 | JeffM2501 | tho I didn't have -fPIC and -frtti on bzfs |
| 17:27.15 | JeffM2501 | nope that's not it |
| 17:27.45 | JeffM2501 | yeah they are all extern "C" |
| 17:27.49 | bryjen | i think the -rdynamic belongs on the exe, not the lib |
| 17:28.01 | JeffM2501 | a little bird tells me they both get it |
| 17:28.08 | JeffM2501 | since it needs to also link back to bzfs |
| 17:28.15 | bryjen | but then again, mine doesn't load, so pay no attention to me :( |
| 17:28.32 | JeffM2501 | that I know why |
| 17:29.16 | CIA-9 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/plugins/shockwaveDeath/shockwaveDeath.cpp: export entry points for linxu |
| 17:29.24 | JeffM2501 | that should fix your loading problems |
| 17:29.34 | JeffM2501 | at get you to the same point I am |
| 17:33.22 | bryjen | yeay |
| 17:33.31 | JeffM2501 | better? |
| 17:34.08 | bryjen | works :) |
| 17:34.14 | JeffM2501 | like totaly? |
| 17:34.20 | bryjen | totally |
| 17:34.24 | JeffM2501 | whoa |
| 17:34.30 | bryjen | dude |
| 17:34.47 | bryjen | bryjen.bzflag.org:5154 |
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| 17:41.57 | bryjen | heh. can't kill somebody close-up without getting yourself |
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| 17:42.26 | das_bender | hows it look? |
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| 17:42.59 | bryjen | it just sets off a shockwave where ever someone dies |
| 17:43.12 | JeffM2501 | wow |
| 17:43.40 | JeffM2501 | wanna commit your changes to the makefile? |
| 17:44.21 | das_bender | thats a cool idea |
| 17:44.26 | bryjen | sure. |
| 17:44.53 | das_bender | just imagine that on a busy server |
| 17:45.26 | JeffM2501 | you could also make it fire off some random shots or whatever |
| 17:45.36 | JeffM2501 | you can trigger any type of world weapon |
| 17:47.56 | JeffM2501 | cool so the same code builds on windows and linux to run the plugin :) guess that makes it cross platform |
| 17:48.10 | CIA-9 | BZFlag: 03bryjen * 10bzflag/src/bzfs/Makefile.am: plugin goodness for Linux |
| 17:49.35 | JeffM2501 | anyone got any more ideas for plugins |
| 17:51.34 | brad2901 | How about as soon as the enemy capture your flag, an SW shoots at your base to remove campers? :) |
| 17:51.46 | spldart | exactly |
| 17:51.50 | JeffM2501 | you don't need a plugin for that |
| 17:51.53 | spldart | was tryping that just a secone ago |
| 17:51.54 | JeffM2501 | I added that to the world weap |
| 17:51.58 | spldart | oh |
| 17:51.59 | JeffM2501 | so that's done |
| 17:52.00 | brad2901 | ah |
| 17:52.01 | brad2901 | :) |
| 17:52.17 | JeffM2501 | you can add an "oncap SW" to the base |
| 17:52.19 | JeffM2501 | and it'll do that |
| 17:52.44 | JeffM2501 | or you can add "trigger onCap" to a world weapon instead of a time |
| 17:52.58 | JeffM2501 | and tie the weapon to the event |
| 17:53.15 | JeffM2501 | I put a post about it on bzbb |
| 17:53.28 | JeffM2501 | it's what got me going down this road |
| 17:53.38 | JeffM2501 | making the events and stuff |
| 17:54.26 | brad2901 | That could be annoying if you are trying to spawn quickly though... |
| 17:56.07 | JeffM2501 | it could be |
| 18:01.34 | JeffM2501 | that is why it's tied to the world weap, so the map maker can contoll it |
| 18:01.42 | JeffM2501 | a plugin would not be able to adapt per map |
| 18:01.57 | brad2901 | ah |
| 18:05.25 | JeffM2501 | I'm doing spawn events now, so a plugin could modify the spawn position if it wanted to |
| 18:12.57 | menotume | JeffM2501: You swdeath plugin is interesting with self-detruct |
| 18:13.27 | JeffM2501 | it's very simple |
| 18:13.32 | JeffM2501 | it just checks for ANY death |
| 18:13.48 | bryjen | argle. segfault on /shutdownserver. it had been hanging with just ^C, so i figured it try that way... |
| 18:13.59 | JeffM2501 | hmm |
| 18:14.06 | JeffM2501 | is it not unloading the plugins? |
| 18:14.12 | menotume | yeah - i think it's kewl |
| 18:14.37 | bryjen | i don't see anything in the output about unload |
| 18:14.48 | JeffM2501 | dohh |
| 18:14.56 | JeffM2501 | that would be because I never call it |
| 18:15.39 | menotume | JeffM2501: Is it possible for admin to issue commands to load/unload plugins on-the-fly ? |
| 18:15.41 | BenUrban | ooh, how about making the swdeath plugin give kill credits to the player that died if it managed to kill anyone else |
| 18:15.49 | JeffM2501 | menotume, not at this time |
| 18:15.54 | menotume | k |
| 18:16.02 | JeffM2501 | but there should be no techincal reason why it can't be done |
| 18:16.28 | menotume | roatating plug-ins :) |
| 18:16.34 | JeffM2501 | BenUrban, I haven't hooked up score changing yet, but you could posibly make it come from the player that died |
| 18:16.40 | JeffM2501 | menotume, I'll see what I can do |
| 18:16.41 | BenUrban | cool |
| 18:16.50 | menotume | nno biggie - just an idea |
| 18:17.17 | bryjen | hmm "menotume joined as a tank, /loadplugin randomlykillplayer menotume" |
| 18:17.18 | bryjen | ;) |
| 18:17.27 | menotume | hehe |
| 18:17.35 | BenUrban | loadplugin with options? :P |
| 18:17.50 | JeffM2501 | yeah they can take a string |
| 18:17.58 | JeffM2501 | -loadplugin pluginname,options |
| 18:18.04 | BenUrban | cool |
| 18:18.10 | JeffM2501 | then the string is passed to bz_Load() |
| 18:18.26 | menotume | I suppose I could make a URL for a plugin to enter matches .... |
| 18:18.32 | menotume | and check the IP it comes from ? |
| 18:18.54 | JeffM2501 | a simple curl plugin could do that |
| 18:18.59 | menotume | how best to authenticate |
| 18:19.11 | JeffM2501 | that's between you and your plugin |
| 18:19.15 | menotume | right |
| 18:19.27 | JeffM2501 | you could put magic words in the URL call |
| 18:19.30 | JeffM2501 | that only your plugin knows |
| 18:19.32 | menotume | yes |
| 18:19.39 | menotume | web-league code is open-cource |
| 18:19.46 | JeffM2501 | pass it in via command line |
| 18:19.53 | menotume | ahhh |
| 18:19.54 | JeffM2501 | so it's not in the source |
| 18:20.02 | menotume | each server could have an id/pass |
| 18:20.06 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 18:20.11 | JeffM2501 | and they'd store it in there config |
| 18:20.12 | menotume | kewlness |
| 18:20.17 | menotume | yeppers |
| 18:20.30 | JeffM2501 | heck you could even make the plugin authenticate with the list server :) |
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| 18:20.56 | JeffM2501 | don't think it would be to hard to have the plugin do a token call |
| 18:21.07 | menotume | how would that help ? |
| 18:21.13 | JeffM2501 | I dono |
| 18:21.14 | menotume | report matches to the list server ? |
| 18:21.23 | JeffM2501 | you could send a token with the report |
| 18:21.32 | JeffM2501 | then your leauge page verifys the token and gets the username |
| 18:21.33 | JeffM2501 | and groups |
| 18:21.38 | menotume | ahh |
| 18:21.46 | JeffM2501 | then makes sure the username is in the right group to report |
| 18:21.51 | JeffM2501 | kinda like bzfs does with perms |
| 18:21.53 | JeffM2501 | but on the page |
| 18:22.07 | JeffM2501 | but that may be overly complex |
| 18:22.10 | menotume | right |
| 18:22.17 | menotume | dunno |
| 18:22.24 | JeffM2501 | I'm just pulling stuff outa my butt right now |
| 18:22.31 | menotume | lol |
| 18:22.35 | Grumbler | but can it pour me a beer |
| 18:22.40 | JeffM2501 | yes |
| 18:22.45 | menotume | yuk |
| 18:22.49 | bryjen | would you want to drink it? |
| 18:22.50 | JeffM2501 | once you hook it up to purple_cow's USB coffie machine |
| 18:22.55 | Grumbler | ~JeffM2501++ |
| 18:23.22 | Grumbler | is there an espresso firewire attatchment as well? |
| 18:23.29 | bryjen | heh. a serial bus should despense milk ;) |
| 18:23.52 | JeffM2501 | found the unload problem |
| 18:23.54 | JeffM2501 | fixing now |
| 18:24.06 | bryjen | spell despense |
| 18:24.09 | bryjen | ~spell despense |
| 18:24.13 | BenUrban | dispense |
| 18:24.28 | JeffM2501 | now the IRC chat relay plug-in will be spooky |
| 18:24.41 | bryjen | i before e |
| 18:25.20 | BenUrban | i's |
| 18:25.56 | CIA-9 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/ (5 files in 2 dirs): |
| 18:25.56 | CIA-9 | BZFlag: let events overide the spaw position |
| 18:25.56 | CIA-9 | BZFlag: let the API get spawn events |
| 18:25.56 | CIA-9 | BZFlag: expose standard spawn code to the API |
| 18:25.56 | CIA-9 | BZFlag: unload plugins when you are done with them |
| 18:26.21 | BenUrban | :) |
| 18:26.22 | ToughShooter | JeffM2501: I always thought it would be connected to hardware...like http://tlf.cx/bilder/tn/sun-coffee-rack.jpg.ths.html |
| 18:29.59 | Grumbler | http://tlf.cx/bilder/tn/thebushbinoculars.jpg.ths.html |
| 18:31.17 | CIA-9 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/plugins/shockwaveDeath/shockwaveDeath.cpp: cleaup to use #def for export on all OSs |
| 18:32.18 | ToughShooter | I think my favorite is http://tlf.cx/bilder/tn/zwitserse-zaktelefoon.jpg.ths.html |
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| 18:35.56 | JeffM2501 | ye ever notice how the x-chat and sourcesafe windows look a lot alike? |
| 18:39.55 | ToughShooter | hehe: http://tlf.cx/bilder/tn/RTL_Bush_Millionaire1.jpg.ths.html http://tlf.cx/bilder/tn/RTL_Bush_Millionaire2.jpg.ths.html http://tlf.cx/bilder/tn/RTL_Bush_Millionaire3.jpg.ths.html |
| 18:40.22 | ToughShooter | It's about the first part of name of America's President |
| 18:41.22 | JeffM2501 | bryjen, think I should put bzfsAPI.h in include? |
| 18:41.34 | JeffM2501 | to make it easyer to include for the plugies? |
| 18:46.57 | Grumbler | edmund??....oy, she needs some help |
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| 18:51.40 | CIA-9 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/ (6 files in 4 dirs): move bzfsAPI.h to the include dir to make it easyer for plugins |
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| 19:08.18 | CIA-9 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/ (8 files in 3 dirs): remove bzfsEvents and playerHistoryTracking from bzfs |
| 19:09.56 | CIA-9 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/plugins/shockwaveDeath/shockwaveDeath.vcproj: make swDeath work with new file locations |
| 19:14.07 | CIA-9 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/plugins/playHistoryTracker/ (5 files): |
| 19:14.07 | CIA-9 | BZFlag: playHistoryTracker converted to a plugin |
| 19:14.07 | CIA-9 | BZFlag: KILLING SPREE!!!! |
| 19:16.50 | Tupone | bryjen: what version of automake you have ? |
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| 19:25.37 | bryjen | Tupone: automake (GNU automake) 1.8.5 |
| 19:25.44 | Tupone | :( |
| 19:25.53 | Tupone | your change does not work on 1.4 |
| 19:26.17 | Tupone | unless we convince Tim ... I tried yesterday :) |
| 19:26.21 | BIYA | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:26.59 | BearPerson | it does exactly that. not more, not less (iirc) |
| 19:27.11 | bryjen | :( I am no autotools expert. It Worked for Me(tm). But maybe it is not the correct way. |
| 19:27.25 | BearPerson | it does not change the physical server address or anything |
| 19:27.36 | BIYA | Okay. thanks |
| 19:27.37 | Tupone | It is the correct way, just does not work on 1.4 |
| 19:31.50 | bryjen | i see bzfs_LDFLAGS used in some of the commands, but i don't see where it is set. perhaps we could use that? |
| 19:32.10 | Tupone | I'm trying to rebuild with that .. slow |
| 19:32.30 | Tupone | 1Ghz Duron :( |
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| 19:33.04 | Tupone | dear jolie |
| 19:33.09 | jolie | tupo!! |
| 19:33.12 | jolie | :** |
| 19:33.21 | Tupone | =* |
| 19:33.21 | das_bender | 1Ghz is fast! |
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| 19:50.44 | CIA-9 | BZFlag: 03bryjen * 10bzflag/src/bzfs/bzfsAPI.cxx: remove reference to removed header |
| 19:51.45 | CIA-9 | BZFlag: 03bryjen * 10bzflag/include/Makefile.am: correct filename case |
| 19:52.51 | bryjen | silly Windows that stores case but then ignores it |
| 19:54.29 | Tupone | bryjen: you test on windows too ? |
| 19:54.54 | bryjen | no windows compiler here |
| 19:55.45 | Tupone | have you read my cross compiler instruction (very basic) ? |
| 19:56.10 | bryjen | nope |
| 19:56.20 | Tupone | README.XMINGW |
| 20:00.46 | Tupone | mingw compilation is badly broken (bzfsAPI) :( |
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| 20:07.56 | spldart | Question... '/ban #.#.*.*. Time=0 jerkwad-ban for trying to get out of banning' will eliminate all under #.#. right? |
| 20:09.01 | spldart | It's that Xar dude again... He's really trying to F with my server >:-o |
| 20:09.44 | spldart | In this case it's 62.147.88 or 89.anynumber |
| 20:11.42 | spldart | meh.. I'll check back in a bit... Goin to play some CTF :) |
| 20:12.04 | bryjen | yes. so 62.147.*.* or 62.147.88.* and 62.147.89.* |
| 20:14.23 | JeffM2501 | Tupone, can your cross compiler make DLLs? |
| 20:14.37 | Tupone | dunno |
| 20:14.56 | JeffM2501 | be kinda cool to cross compile plugins |
| 20:14.57 | Tupone | my cross compiler is gcc :) |
| 20:15.17 | JeffM2501 | it probably can |
| 20:15.21 | Tupone | well, my idea about plugin was python script |
| 20:15.36 | Tupone | but I haven't implemented :) |
| 20:15.59 | Tupone | those were platform indipendent by definition |
| 20:16.13 | Tupone | too lazy to do it |
| 20:16.56 | Tupone | now I have this warning : xxx definition is marked dllimport |
| 20:18.13 | spldart | Thanks for the confirm Bryjen :) |
| 20:19.14 | spldart | I swear he has used the word $#!t on my server an average of 12 times each time he has visited. And I'm trying to be safe for kids on it. |
| 20:19.37 | jolie | python!!! r0x0r |
| 20:20.45 | JeffM2501 | spldart, make a plugin that bans him :) |
| 20:24.32 | bryjen | need to make it so a plugin can re-write chat message before they're relayed. Any message with bad language gets pronouns like "you" and "me" swapped ;) |
| 20:26.16 | JeffM2501 | bryjen, you can |
| 20:26.51 | JeffM2501 | install a handaler for bz_eChatMessageEvent |
| 20:27.18 | JeffM2501 | and just change the message string in the data it sends you, it will use your changed data for the message. |
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| 20:27.34 | bryjen | oh no... |
| 20:28.23 | JeffM2501 | first it will call any handalers for all teams, then for the from player's team, then the to players's team |
| 20:28.43 | JeffM2501 | if the plugin clears the chat message it won't even be sent |
| 20:29.05 | JeffM2501 | be a real easy way to silence people :) |
| 20:29.21 | JeffM2501 | in fact it would make them not able to do any / commands ether :) |
| 20:29.55 | BearPerson | Hmm... we had an idea like that already |
| 20:30.04 | BearPerson | make the curse list include replacements |
| 20:30.17 | JeffM2501 | yeah, I seem to remember that |
| 20:30.40 | BearPerson | so you'd get things like "Hey you wonderful helpful friend!" |
| 20:30.41 | JeffM2501 | you could do the replacemets as a plugin. perhaps even the entire curse list as a plugin |
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| 21:11.54 | spldart | LOL at JeffM plugin to ban Xar (late) |
| 21:12.26 | spldart | I was playing Hepcat... Then when I get tired and start having accident TK's I go to spiral as Rogue to keep playing :) |
| 21:16.21 | JeffM2501 | man is somoeone ever going to have to spellcheck these docs :) |
| 21:20.52 | Grumbler | as soon as you are finished adding to them |
| 21:21.00 | bryjen | ~spell handaler |
| 21:21.23 | bryjen | not to mention the code ;) |
| 21:21.56 | JeffM2501 | that too |
| 21:23.59 | CIA-9 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/ (4 files in 2 dirs): silly english language |
| 21:24.28 | JeffM2501 | I'm doing docs now |
| 21:24.52 | JeffM2501 | so you can change the code if you want |
| 21:28.39 | CIA-9 | BZFlag: 03atupone * 10bzflag/src/bzflag/playing.cxx: Using an initialized var is better |
| 21:30.48 | CIA-9 | BZFlag: 03atupone * 10bzflag/src/bzfs/Makefile.am: Fixing compilation ... I don't like this way, probably need libtool too :( |
| 21:33.01 | JeffM2501 | so Tupone you want to hook up a #def into the config.h for me? :) |
| 21:33.09 | JeffM2501 | so that the API will build |
| 21:33.18 | Tupone | the API build now |
| 21:33.34 | JeffM2501 | did you add a define for _USE_BZ_API ? |
| 21:33.51 | Tupone | I added a -DINSIDE_BZ in the bzfs makefile |
| 21:34.07 | JeffM2501 | ohh that's only for windows |
| 21:34.20 | Tupone | windows and MingW :) |
| 21:34.25 | JeffM2501 | true |
| 21:34.41 | jolie | not true |
| 21:34.44 | JeffM2501 | but bzfs won't include the API and plugins unless it has _USE_BZ_API |
| 21:34.57 | Tupone | well, at least it compile :) |
| 21:35.03 | JeffM2501 | well yeah |
| 21:35.05 | JeffM2501 | but it won't be used |
| 21:35.15 | JeffM2501 | I don't know how to add stuff to configure |
| 21:35.19 | JeffM2501 | it scares me |
| 21:35.21 | JeffM2501 | I cry |
| 21:35.22 | Tupone | I know that building a shared library is different for each architecture |
| 21:35.23 | JeffM2501 | in a corner |
| 21:35.32 | JeffM2501 | the plugins have there own makefiles |
| 21:36.07 | Tupone | for building shared library, normally they use libtool |
| 21:36.17 | JeffM2501 | if you say so |
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| 21:36.29 | JeffM2501 | I have a makefile for each sample plugin |
| 21:36.33 | Tupone | so autoconf/automake/libtool |
| 21:36.41 | JeffM2501 | but config.h will need the #define |
| 21:36.52 | JeffM2501 | the bzflag main makefile dosn't need to build any .so files |
| 21:37.15 | Tupone | when you need the define, ever ? |
| 21:37.17 | JeffM2501 | bryjen did the changes to make it build with the shared stuff it needs |
| 21:37.23 | Tupone | is conditional ? |
| 21:37.26 | JeffM2501 | well it should be fine to be allways |
| 21:37.32 | JeffM2501 | but somone may want to turn it off |
| 21:37.43 | JeffM2501 | and build with no API |
| 21:37.47 | JeffM2501 | I guess |
| 21:37.53 | Tupone | ok, I go this way |
| 21:38.05 | JeffM2501 | you are the makemaster :) |
| 21:38.13 | Tupone | but what I should define ? |
| 21:38.14 | jolie | hmpf.. |
| 21:38.15 | Tupone | :) |
| 21:38.29 | JeffM2501 | ok one of the make masters |
| 21:38.40 | JeffM2501 | well the code checks for _USE_BZ_API |
| 21:38.54 | Tupone | #define _USE_BZ_API ???? |
| 21:39.12 | Tupone | #define _USE_BZ_API 1 |
| 21:39.14 | JeffM2501 | #define _USE_BZ_API 1 is what I have in the windows config.h |
| 21:39.18 | Tupone | ok |
| 21:39.51 | CIA-9 | BZFlag: 03bryjen * 10bzflag/src/bzfs/ (6 files): Get a handal on some speeling |
| 21:40.13 | JeffM2501 | probabaly should come up with a template make file for the plugins at some point too |
| 21:40.15 | JeffM2501 | mine is horible |
| 21:44.27 | CIA-9 | BZFlag: 03atupone * 10bzflag/configure.in: Adding the --enable-plugins configuration parameter |
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| 21:45.53 | bryjen | whoops |
| 21:45.58 | CIA-9 | BZFlag: 03bryjen * 10bzflag/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Update headers spelling too |
| 21:46.42 | JeffM2501 | Tupone, so the default is to not have plugins? |
| 21:46.53 | Tupone | the default is to have |
| 21:46.59 | JeffM2501 | :D |
| 21:47.21 | Tupone | --enable-plugins or --disable-plugins |
| 21:47.27 | Tupone | or nothing |
| 21:47.53 | JeffM2501 | sw33t |
| 21:47.58 | JeffM2501 | with a capital 3 |
| 21:49.32 | Tupone | mine will be --disable-plugins :) I know we are potentially in trouble when doing building on exhotic platform, so I'm closing the eyes for that |
| 21:50.37 | Tupone | ~spell exhotic |
| 21:50.39 | JeffM2501 | yeah there could be problems, thats why I wanted it hooked to a #define to make it easy to turn off for the "wierd" platforms |
| 21:50.54 | Tupone | well, one of those :) |
| 22:01.53 | jolie | girlie :** |
| 22:02.40 | orchid | hello :) |
| 22:02.54 | orchid | ~friday |
| 22:02.55 | ibot | Friday sucks, because it should be the weekend, but you're stuck working anyway. |
| 22:05.03 | JeffM2501 | still at work? |
| 22:05.25 | orchid | nope, home now thank the heavans |
| 22:06.16 | JeffM2501 | well thats good |
| 22:07.03 | Tupone | CIA-o orchid |
| 22:07.24 | orchid | salut Tupone |
| 22:15.07 | CIA-9 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/plugins/bzAPI.txt: a basic description of all API functions and structures. |
| 22:15.40 | JeffM2501 | Grumbler, you can go to town on that if you want |
| 22:32.27 | CIA-9 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/plugins/shockwaveDeath/ (shockwaveDeath.cpp shockwaveDeath.vcproj): |
| 22:32.27 | CIA-9 | BZFlag: update to use the kings english |
| 22:32.27 | CIA-9 | BZFlag: add usevictim option to make the SW come from the person who died. |
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| 22:56.51 | CIA-9 | BZFlag: 03galkire * 10bzflag/plugins/bzAPI.txt: spelling |
| 22:57.23 | Grumbler | JeffM2501, handler |
| 23:00.26 | CIA-9 | BZFlag: 03galkire * 10bzflag/plugins/playHistoryTracker/playHistoryTracker.cpp: handaler->handler |
| 23:01.12 | JeffM2501 | there is no memeber of handaler called hadler |
| 23:01.14 | JeffM2501 | sill |
| 23:01.16 | JeffM2501 | silly |
| 23:01.44 | JeffM2501 | ibot message for JeffM2501 only 1 a in handler |
| 23:02.25 | Grumbler | JeffM2501, i am fixing shockwave and the other |
| 23:02.30 | JeffM2501 | ok thanks |
| 23:02.58 | JeffM2501 | I'm making the plugin manager nicer |
| 23:03.07 | JeffM2501 | so it can runtime load/unload plugins |
| 23:04.50 | CIA-9 | BZFlag: 03galkire * 10bzflag/plugins/bzAPI.txt: handaler -> handler |
| 23:05.47 | CIA-9 | BZFlag: 03galkire * 10bzflag/plugins/shockwaveDeath/shockwaveDeath.cpp: handaler -> handler |
| 23:06.05 | Grumbler | ok, thats my year req of work :) |
| 23:06.37 | Grumbler | surprized i even remember how to use cvs |
| 23:06.44 | Grumbler | on linux of all things |
| 23:06.48 | JeffM2501 | see I keep you in practice |
| 23:06.53 | Grumbler | heh |
| 23:06.57 | Grumbler | anytime |
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| 23:25.11 | CIA-9 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/src/bzfs/ (bzfs.cxx bzfsPlugins.cxx bzfsPlugins.h): runtime loading, listing, and unloading of plugins. |
| 23:27.21 | bz7063 | Hi all. I don't play that often. Just discovered that BZ 2 is out. I tried downloading it onto my iBook g3 600. But the display turns to garbage when I do. Any ideas what might be the problem? |
| 23:27.39 | bz7063 | I'm running OS X 10.4 |
| 23:28.04 | CIA-9 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/ (include/bzfsAPI.h src/bzfs/bzfsAPI.cxx): API function to remove events on unload. |
| 23:28.09 | JeffM2501 | what eact version did you get? |
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| 23:32.15 | CIA-9 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/plugins/ (3 files in 3 dirs): |
| 23:32.15 | CIA-9 | BZFlag: make sample plugins remove event handlers on an unload |
| 23:32.15 | CIA-9 | BZFlag: update docs to talk about unload |
| 23:32.46 | bz7063 | 2.0.2 |
| 23:32.51 | JeffM2501 | hmm wierd |
| 23:32.58 | bz7063 | yeah. that's what I said. :) |
| 23:33.02 | JeffM2501 | well you will need SDL |
| 23:33.05 | JeffM2501 | have you installed SDL? |
| 23:33.20 | bz7063 | :) |
| 23:33.20 | bz7063 | No. Not even sure what it is. |
| 23:33.21 | JeffM2501 | tho I haven't tried the premade binary on 10.4 |
| 23:33.26 | bz7063 | sorry. |
| 23:33.29 | JeffM2501 | www.libsdl.org |
| 23:33.40 | JeffM2501 | should be a thing to download and install the SDL runtimes for mac |
| 23:33.48 | JeffM2501 | bzflag now uses SDL |
| 23:33.58 | JeffM2501 | at least on your platform |
| 23:34.02 | bz7063 | Ahh, well that might be it. Let me see if that fixes it. |
| 23:34.32 | bz7063 | SDL CVS? |
| 23:34.47 | JeffM2501 | naw |
| 23:34.53 | JeffM2501 | anything after 1.2.6 should be fine |
| 23:35.22 | JeffM2501 | http://www.libsdl.org/download-1.2.php |
| 23:35.33 | JeffM2501 | there is an OSX runtime |
| 23:35.39 | bz7063 | I'm bringing down the 1.2.8 |
| 23:35.44 | JeffM2501 | just do what it says to do to install it |
| 23:36.18 | bz7063 | 'follow instructions?' ahhh, that takes me back...... |
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