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| 00:41.22 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/ (5 files in 3 dirs): |
| 00:41.22 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: first shot at a play history tracker to give props to those who do well. |
| 00:41.22 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: aka. UNSTOPPABLE!!!!! |
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| 01:40.44 | BenUrban | lmao @ crampages |
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| 02:27.11 | orchid | JeffM2501: it would depend on what I'd have to say |
| 02:40.36 | orchid | ~spell reciept |
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| 03:37.04 | jpa- | morning |
| 03:38.47 | brlcad | guten tag |
| 03:39.30 | jpa- | brlcaddie <3 |
| 03:40.09 | brlcad | may i recommend the 9 iron, good sir? |
| 03:40.28 | jpa- | i don't have one |
| 03:40.35 | Grumbler | morning jpa |
| 03:40.36 | jpa- | i only have weller whs-400 |
| 03:41.24 | jpa- | -0 |
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| 04:11.32 | brlcad | howdy MeBigFatGuy |
| 04:11.36 | MeBigFatGuy | yo! |
| 04:11.50 | brlcad | i still see the vile dynamic-dial kiss |
| 04:11.56 | MeBigFatGuy | yup |
| 04:12.01 | MeBigFatGuy | working on it |
| 04:12.12 | brlcad | looking promising? |
| 04:12.39 | MeBigFatGuy | i think so... they are coming out to do a test on monday, but they thought it'd be ok |
| 04:12.53 | MeBigFatGuy | turns out they mount the hardware on area farm silos |
| 04:13.06 | brlcad | hehe |
| 04:13.31 | brlcad | "yes.. our network operations center is right this way.." |
| 04:13.42 | MeBigFatGuy | 'watch your step' |
| 04:13.44 | brlcad | leads you to the middle of a cow pasture to the feeder |
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| 04:21.29 | brlcad | and it wasn't free |
| 04:21.32 | MeBigFatGuy | heh |
| 04:21.53 | brlcad | DTRemenak, would you really want to see all those bugs? :) |
| 04:22.03 | DTRemenak | s/see/fix :) |
| 04:22.22 | DTRemenak | Arnold talks about fixing the state, imagine what we could do if we had the sources! :) |
| 04:22.30 | brlcad | you'd probably segfault just trying to grok it |
| 04:29.05 | brlcad | OH! |
| 04:29.09 | brlcad | star wars.. |
| 04:29.12 | brlcad | hmm |
| 04:29.43 | brlcad | forgot it was wednesday |
| 04:30.31 | brlcad | guess i won't be seeing the midnight showing |
| 04:33.41 | orchid | brlcad: I can tell you what happens in SW if you like |
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| 05:45.34 | Tupone | cvs is not buildable, a file from JeffM is missing :( bzfsEvents.h |
| 05:45.49 | DTRemenak | yup |
| 05:46.15 | Tupone | DTRemenak: hi ... have you read the README.XMINGW ? |
| 05:46.21 | DTRemenak | nope |
| 05:46.55 | Tupone | I'm interested on it, like when I did README.MINGW32 you fixed a lot :) |
| 05:47.09 | DTRemenak | I'll take a look at it |
| 05:47.39 | Tupone | ty in advance :) |
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| 10:55.36 | e-type | hi all |
| 10:55.46 | e-type | does bzflag have trouble with mesa? |
| 10:56.10 | e-type | it has trouble on my system lately and mesa is the only thing that changed to my 3D stuff... |
| 11:27.28 | BearPerson | well, the only trouble I know is that with mesa things will be sssllloooowww... |
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| 11:30.05 | Deathcow | hi |
| 11:31.02 | Deathcow | Chestal |
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| 12:05.24 | Grumbler | morning |
| 12:08.57 | menotume | Mornin Grumbles |
| 12:10.33 | Grumbler | ah, menotume , i forgot last night |
| 12:11.10 | Grumbler | i didnt do molding either, but thats because i had to solder some more piping together |
| 12:14.26 | menotume | lol - i forgot too :) |
| 12:15.19 | menotume | no biggie - just give a yell anytime ... if I'm here, i'll try to help |
| 12:15.55 | brlcad | urgl |
| 12:16.10 | Tupone | morning brlcad |
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| 12:47.37 | brlcad | Tupone, morning |
| 12:48.58 | menotume | brlcad? before 9am ? |
| 12:49.08 | menotume | still up, huh ? |
| 12:50.04 | brlcad | i wish, no |
| 12:50.14 | brlcad | just have had two people call me already.. grr |
| 12:50.17 | menotume | hehe good morning |
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| 13:14.26 | orchid | heh, peanut ones I hope BearPerson |
| 13:14.52 | orchid | look, the barons are here |
| 13:15.16 | TheRedBaron | nice to see you frequenting IRC again :) |
| 13:15.21 | RedBaron2 | hey hey |
| 13:15.31 | menotume | Barons are making work for me :( |
| 13:15.34 | orchid | yes, self imposed exile wasnt working out |
| 13:15.51 | orchid | menotume: howso? |
| 13:16.16 | orchid | adjusting their score again? |
| 13:16.19 | TheRedBaron | aww orchid, are you going to believe him? |
| 13:16.20 | menotume | hehe |
| 13:16.31 | menotume | No, creating multiple ladders on the league site |
| 13:16.51 | orchid | hmm, theres a ladder now? |
| 13:16.52 | TheRedBaron | correction, we are not creating multiple ladders! |
| 13:17.06 | TheRedBaron | menotume is creating the ladder, thats the work :) |
| 13:18.09 | orchid | the Germans are still sending me spam |
| 13:21.15 | TheRedBaron | hehe |
| 13:21.23 | Grumbler | know a lot of people that dont use virus control there eh |
| 13:27.07 | TheRedBaron | Orchid: heres the work that "we've" created for menotume http://my.bzflag.org/league/index.php?link=bzforums&forumid=1&threadid=1063& |
| 13:27.39 | orchid | yup, I was just reading it |
| 13:28.32 | orchid | pillbox would be a good league, but I think you need at a min 4 players per team? |
| 13:29.23 | RedBaron2 | yea, i think it should have rico to.. |
| 13:29.49 | TheRedBaron | orchid: I think there will need tobe a min of 3vs3 |
| 13:30.19 | TheRedBaron | 2vs2 isn't going to cut it... map is too big if you ask me. |
| 13:30.35 | menotume | the match server _could_ be different |
| 13:30.50 | menotume | could add rico perhaps |
| 13:30.56 | Grumbler | creating a bunch of ladders....too bad |
| 13:31.10 | TheRedBaron | true, could be... I'm fuzzy on the particulars and rules, because i'm not exactly a big pillbox regular. |
| 13:32.08 | Grumbler | maps would need to be reworked....considering how hard it is for you'all to get that many players for one team to play at a particular time |
| 13:32.14 | TheRedBaron | I just wrote that topic for meno. explaining what he could do to start the league. |
| 13:32.54 | TheRedBaron | Grumbler: i actually think the maps will just be re-sized to something smaller. and there are enough pillbox and hepcat regulars to have pretty vast teams. |
| 13:33.16 | TheRedBaron | so i'm thinking it won't be hard to get a min of 3vs3. (or at least I'm optimistic about it :) |
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| 13:33.41 | RedBaron2 | lol, no i think once word gets out, it'll be a big hit there |
| 13:34.33 | Grumbler | hrm, 3 on 3 in pillbox isnt necessarily fun.....at least for me |
| 13:34.50 | Grumbler | but, i guess that is your min goal |
| 13:35.09 | TheRedBaron | Grumbler, what would you see as "ideal" |
| 13:35.14 | Grumbler | i think that is the biggest problem you have with merging t he league |
| 13:35.43 | Grumbler | ....since players cant be on two teams at once......it counts as a merge |
| 13:36.16 | TheRedBaron | we aren't exactly merging the league |
| 13:36.27 | TheRedBaron | the pillbox league doesn't exist yet to merge it with the ducati league |
| 13:36.39 | TheRedBaron | we are creating the pillbox league and integrating it with the ducati |
| 13:37.12 | TheRedBaron | by having the same team database, but a different ladder/ranking |
| 13:37.42 | Grumbler | yeah, but if are creating this new league.......and i can get 2vs2 for ducati, but i can never get 3vs3 in pillbox, i dont have any option but join another team..... |
| 13:38.04 | Grumbler | thats the part where i see a problem |
| 13:38.37 | Grumbler | you have to have the same min player counts for both styles or you will run into that |
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| 13:39.06 | TheRedBaron | good point grumbler. |
| 13:39.54 | Grumbler | thnx, just trying to help |
| 13:40.24 | TheRedBaron | thanks! |
| 13:40.36 | TheRedBaron | we need the input |
| 13:40.40 | Grumbler | because i do so rarely help around here anymore |
| 13:40.45 | RedBaron2 | lol |
| 13:40.51 | TheRedBaron | ~grumbler++ |
| 13:40.54 | TheRedBaron | for helping :) |
| 13:40.59 | Grumbler | now you are just being silly |
| 13:41.17 | TheRedBaron | and you are embarrassed for being rewarded |
| 13:41.47 | Grumbler | stop being nice or i will have to go away |
| 13:41.49 | Grumbler | :) |
| 13:43.17 | menotume | Grumbler: yes, that is a problem |
| 13:43.46 | menotume | unfortunatly, making multiple teams is outside of the scope of what i can do with the code right now |
| 13:43.58 | menotume | patches welcome :) |
| 13:45.34 | menotume | the previous comment always keeps them quiet :) |
| 13:45.42 | TheRedBaron | yea... |
| 13:46.43 | menotume | ~grumbler+/2*5 |
| 13:46.44 | TheRedBaron | Grumbler: do you play pillbox regularly? we could use some input as to some rules, map sizes, rico or not... etc |
| 13:47.49 | orchid | more pyramids would be nice |
| 13:48.14 | TheRedBaron | nope! |
| 13:48.26 | TheRedBaron | orchid + pyramids = frustrated baron... |
| 13:48.36 | RedBaron2 | lol |
| 13:49.32 | Grumbler | i "used" to play pillbox a lot......i liked it, but i needed a change , so i went to quirky maps, then sp. |
| 13:49.44 | TheRedBaron | Pimpinella: what size is the map for 1vs1? |
| 13:50.55 | menotume | is about 3" x 3" on my radar |
| 13:51.41 | TheRedBaron | i'm thinking we could use a map slightly bigger then the 1vs1 size. |
| 13:51.56 | RedBaron2 | the 1vs1 map is really small.. |
| 13:51.58 | menotume | maybe the size of ducati |
| 13:52.06 | RedBaron2 | yea that would be best meno.. |
| 13:52.13 | RedBaron2 | because you'll have really big teams.. |
| 13:52.25 | TheRedBaron | not "really" big teams |
| 13:52.27 | RedBaron2 | whats the max of players in official game? |
| 13:52.30 | menotume | could have 2 - if we can get the servers |
| 13:52.44 | RedBaron2 | well 5-6 players average i'd say.. |
| 13:52.45 | TheRedBaron | menotume: silver fox set up the servers... hold on i'll get you the link |
| 13:53.27 | TheRedBaron | http://hepcat.bzflag.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=279&sid=3d112e39e390f5c46c9b4832aa87833a |
| 13:53.49 | menotume | TY |
| 13:54.02 | TheRedBaron | but if those maps are the size of the current pillbox. those will be too big for league playing... |
| 13:54.17 | menotume | ahhhh. black text on black background - great choise of colors |
| 13:54.26 | TheRedBaron | yea... my sentiments exactly. |
| 13:54.35 | TheRedBaron | i had to highlight the words to read them. |
| 13:54.53 | menotume | yep |
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| 13:55.36 | RedBaron2 | lol |
| 13:56.20 | TheRedBaron | does the map dimensions ( in the .bzw file) dictate the arena size? |
| 13:56.21 | menotume | they seem to be down ATM |
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| 14:02.12 | TheRedBaron | does the map dimensions ( in the .bzw file) dictate the arena size? :) |
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| 14:12.07 | RedBaron2 | hey SC |
| 14:12.52 | TheRedBaron | come on, I know there are some map maker junkies in here :) |
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| 14:30.42 | Grumbler | TheRedBaron, no, you can override the map size, but t he block positions will not change |
| 14:31.09 | SportChick | hi Redb |
| 14:31.17 | SportChick | RedBaron2: hi, I mean |
| 14:33.10 | TheRedBaron | grumbler: would we wan the block positions to change? |
| 14:33.13 | TheRedBaron | *want |
| 14:34.18 | RedBaron2 | nah, i think we should give it a shot how it is.. |
| 14:34.48 | RedBaron2 | if we made it random, it would be more like a ducati match, only change would be 3 shots.. |
| 14:35.30 | TheRedBaron | we aren't making the map random, just making the arena smaller bro. |
| 14:36.03 | RedBaron2 | oh.. |
| 14:36.24 | TheRedBaron | its too big for league play, IMO |
| 14:36.45 | Grumbler | TheRedBaron, you need to repositions the bases |
| 14:37.01 | blast007 | could you define the whole map as a group, and then use that group with a smaller scale? |
| 14:37.22 | Grumbler | you could, but scaling the base size might be funky |
| 14:37.58 | Grumbler | but, i have this feeling that there is a solution.......all we have to do is ask trepan |
| 14:38.10 | Grumbler | or louman |
| 14:38.14 | Grumbler | or aribeth |
| 14:38.29 | TheRedBaron | ~seen trepan |
| 14:38.30 | ibot | trepan <~trepan@trepan.user> was last seen on IRC in channel #bzflag, 1d 11h 14m 49s ago, saying: 'resistance is futile'. |
| 14:38.31 | blast007 | you can save the map as a flat file then, and fix up anything that got broken |
| 14:39.15 | blast007 | to do that, you can do: /localset saveFlatFile 1 |
| 14:39.22 | Grumbler | considering how simple it is, you could probably work a simple python script |
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| 15:44.42 | thelastdarlick | how do you run a safer server on bzflag |
| 15:44.52 | JeffM2501 | define "safer" |
| 15:45.00 | thelastdarlick | OS being windows |
| 15:45.08 | JeffM2501 | again define safer? |
| 15:45.13 | JeffM2501 | what are you worried about? |
| 15:45.22 | thelastdarlick | as in not being able to hacked though it |
| 15:45.45 | JeffM2501 | there isn't realy any way to run an exe in a protected space on windows |
| 15:46.00 | JeffM2501 | not like in a chroot jail like on linux |
| 15:46.11 | JeffM2501 | but I've never heard of anyone "hacking thru it" |
| 15:46.18 | thelastdarlick | never heard of it what does it do |
| 15:46.20 | JeffM2501 | what version of windows? |
| 15:46.29 | thelastdarlick | 2000 |
| 15:46.55 | JeffM2501 | a chroot jail runs an exe in it's own litle private world, so it can't get to the rest of the computer |
| 15:46.59 | JeffM2501 | but thats a unixish thing |
| 15:47.27 | thelastdarlick | unixish? |
| 15:47.37 | JeffM2501 | it's for unix |
| 15:47.40 | JeffM2501 | and linux |
| 15:47.41 | JeffM2501 | not windows |
| 15:47.51 | thelastdarlick | would the chroot jail work on linux 10.1 |
| 15:48.03 | thelastdarlick | ??? |
| 15:48.03 | JeffM2501 | if you set one up |
| 15:48.14 | JeffM2501 | how much do you know about linux |
| 15:48.14 | thelastdarlick | how? |
| 15:48.17 | JeffM2501 | seting one up isn't easy |
| 15:48.23 | JeffM2501 | you have to do special builds of bz and stuff |
| 15:48.40 | thelastdarlick | well not much if you meen like compiling source code |
| 15:48.45 | JeffM2501 | but again, I've never heard of anyone hacking thru a server |
| 15:49.00 | bryjen | there is no "linux 10.1" |
| 15:49.09 | thelastdarlick | oww yes there is |
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| 15:49.33 | JeffM2501 | dude you don't realy know what your talking about |
| 15:49.36 | bryjen | no. linux is only the kernel and the highest version number is 2.6.something |
| 15:49.46 | JeffM2501 | you are talking about a distro with 10.1 |
| 15:49.48 | thelastdarlick | well some one was trying to forward my internal ip to a wierd port |
| 15:49.50 | JeffM2501 | not the linux |
| 15:50.00 | JeffM2501 | thelastdarlick, yeah your router would do that |
| 15:50.21 | JeffM2501 | the TCP and UDP connections will use other ports for there repplys |
| 15:50.26 | JeffM2501 | it's how networking works |
| 15:50.34 | JeffM2501 | perhaps you should learn about it first |
| 15:50.34 | thelastdarlick | ow |
| 15:50.50 | thelastdarlick | i know more than you think |
| 15:50.58 | JeffM2501 | I'm sure you do |
| 15:50.59 | thelastdarlick | i think |
| 15:51.33 | thelastdarlick | so are there instructions for seting up a shroot jail |
| 15:51.37 | JeffM2501 | no |
| 15:51.39 | BenUrban | thelastdarlick: do you have any idea what linux distro you use? |
| 15:52.00 | JeffM2501 | the chroot thing is a linux thing not a BZ thing |
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| 15:52.12 | JeffM2501 | you'd have to find that out thru your linux distro docs |
| 15:52.17 | thelastdarlick | yer but how do i do it |
| 15:52.24 | thelastdarlick | ooow ok |
| 15:52.26 | JeffM2501 | you go an research it |
| 15:52.28 | JeffM2501 | and read |
| 15:52.30 | JeffM2501 | and learn |
| 15:52.37 | JeffM2501 | this is not a linux support channel |
| 15:53.03 | blast007 | http://www.bzflag.org/wiki/BZFS_20in_20a_20chroot_20Jail |
| 15:53.31 | blast007 | though I'm not sure that is up-to-date for bzflag 2.0.x |
| 15:53.47 | JeffM2501 | the concept should be the same |
| 15:53.49 | JeffM2501 | build staticly |
| 15:53.49 | thelastdarlick | thanks |
| 15:53.50 | BenUrban | heh, i doubt that mandrake provides docs on chroot jails |
| 15:53.51 | JeffM2501 | run in the root |
| 15:54.58 | BenUrban | anyway the 10.1 is the mandrake version |
| 15:55.08 | BenUrban | it probably uses one of the 2.6 kernels |
| 15:55.08 | JeffM2501 | thelastdarlick, do you know what your geting into? |
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| 16:00.36 | bryjen | ah, that's got you copying the libs into the jail |
| 16:01.01 | BenUrban | yep |
| 16:02.02 | JeffM2501 | you ether have to do that or build static |
| 16:04.20 | BearPerson | actually, when it's still running as root, you're probably not much better off |
| 16:04.30 | BearPerson | a few mknod's and mount's later... |
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| 16:08.32 | bryjen | mknod wouldn't be in the jail |
| 16:08.42 | bryjen | or mount |
| 16:08.43 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/src/bzfs/ (bzfsEvents.cxx bzfsEvents.h Makefile.am): it would help if the files for play history were commited. |
| 16:08.47 | Pimpinella | chroot should work thes same for any linux disribution |
| 16:09.13 | Pimpinella | except those using a tweaked kernel |
| 16:09.41 | bryjen | Pimpinella: even "linux 10.1" ;) |
| 16:09.55 | Chestal | bryjen: but the exploit could just do the system calls itself and not rely on those executables of being available |
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| 16:11.48 | Pimpinella | wow, can i get a cpoy of that linux 10.1 ? |
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| 16:12.04 | bryjen | true. the wiki page does on to talk about suid or using that jailkit thing to run it as nobody |
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| 16:13.57 | bryjen | JeffM2501: bzfs.cxx:61:24: bzfsEvents.h: No such file or directory |
| 16:14.08 | JeffM2501 | yeah I just commited it |
| 16:14.28 | JeffM2501 | look up a bit :) |
| 16:14.54 | bryjen | nobody ever looks up ;) |
| 16:15.05 | thelastdarlick | nope thats life |
| 16:15.17 | thelastdarlick | anyway ive got to go bye |
| 16:15.39 | bryjen | that's how spiderman can "hide" on cielings |
| 16:15.56 | bryjen | s/how/why/ |
| 16:15.59 | bryjen | whatever |
| 16:16.28 | BenUrban | despite his bright colors :P |
| 16:18.05 | Tupone | TimRiker: how is your mood on rename configure.in to configure.ac -> means going from autoconf 2.13 to 2.59 |
| 16:18.59 | bryjen | bzfsEvents.cxx:61: warning: unused variable `GameKeeper::Player*victimData' |
| 16:19.20 | JeffM2501 | yeah haven't finished that |
| 16:20.42 | BenUrban | and then log the errors and warnings |
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| 16:21.58 | JeffM2501 | it's a huge help for me |
| 16:22.00 | Tupone | we could do a bot that does this |
| 16:22.07 | BenUrban | that's what i was thinking |
| 16:22.28 | BearPerson | I don't know about all the errors and warnings |
| 16:22.29 | BenUrban | of course, if there was ever a commit that genereated a lot of warnings, the flooding would get annoying |
| 16:22.35 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/src/bzfs/bzfsEvents.cxx: make all things strings to quell warnings |
| 16:22.36 | BearPerson | maybe more the errors and warnings that got added |
| 16:22.37 | JeffM2501 | but bryjen is so much more personable then a bot |
| 16:22.50 | BenUrban | really? |
| 16:22.55 | JeffM2501 | he even helps find the problems :) |
| 16:22.57 | BenUrban | lol |
| 16:23.07 | JeffM2501 | that should fix the warnings |
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| 16:24.55 | orchid | yay screen |
| 16:25.20 | JeffM2501 | new debian machine at work has nothing on it yet :( |
| 16:25.21 | CBG | Morning, all. |
| 16:25.45 | BearPerson | JeffM2501, weird... got the same error, a CVS update didn't change anything... |
| 16:25.56 | orchid | JeffM2501 will need a nifty hardstatus line in his .screenrc |
| 16:26.00 | JeffM2501 | BearPerson, you are on anon cvs right? |
| 16:26.50 | orchid | ahh finito |
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| 16:27.02 | BearPerson | JeffM2501, yeah |
| 16:27.11 | JeffM2501 | that can take up to 5 hours to update |
| 16:27.17 | JeffM2501 | from real cvs |
| 16:27.41 | JeffM2501 | can some people go to oni.gibbscam.com and kill somone 5 times with out dying |
| 16:27.49 | JeffM2501 | and see what the server says? |
| 16:28.02 | BearPerson | why not |
| 16:28.05 | BearPerson | I'll try |
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| 16:29.06 | bryjen | there is no try... |
| 16:29.16 | orchid | :) |
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| 16:29.33 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: 03atupone * 10bzflag/src/ (17 files in 6 dirs): fixes for gcc-4.0 (thanks to t-s) |
| 16:31.19 | JeffM2501 | heh |
| 16:31.22 | JeffM2501 | well at least it works |
| 16:31.31 | JeffM2501 | if not for the fact that it's off by a bit |
| 16:33.48 | JeffM2501 | now for the truly evil part of my plan |
| 16:34.16 | BearPerson | server weapons? |
| 16:34.23 | JeffM2501 | huh? |
| 16:34.27 | JeffM2501 | server weapons are done |
| 16:34.30 | JeffM2501 | long ago |
| 16:34.31 | JeffM2501 | by trepan |
| 16:34.51 | JeffM2501 | you will not thwart this evil |
| 16:34.54 | JeffM2501 | you will embrace it |
| 16:35.09 | BearPerson | tanks explode with a big SW |
| 16:35.23 | SportyGal | JeffM2501: you know gimp, right? Do you remember where the option is to make a photo see-through |
| 16:35.24 | JeffM2501 | that would not be hard with the system I just put in |
| 16:35.31 | JeffM2501 | the OnDeath event has all the info you need |
| 16:35.42 | JeffM2501 | and acutlay when I'm done, you'll be able to make a plugin that does JUST THAT |
| 16:35.48 | BearPerson | SportyGal, "add alpha channel" would be a start |
| 16:35.59 | orchid | ~solstice |
| 16:36.00 | ibot | from memory, solstice is the point in the earth's ecliptic at which the sun is farthest from the equator |
| 16:36.01 | BearPerson | not sure what you need to do after that |
| 16:36.19 | JeffM2501 | SportyGal, no I don't use gimp much at all, I know how it works, but don't know the interface specifics |
| 16:36.23 | JeffM2501 | I'm a PS guy |
| 16:36.49 | orchid | SportyGal: look in the layers dialog |
| 16:36.57 | orchid | SportyGal: you can set opacity |
| 16:37.29 | SportyGal | ah! ok |
| 16:37.51 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/src/bzfs/bzfsEvents.cxx: make the play history messages come out on the right kill numbers. |
| 16:40.26 | orchid | http://grokker.com/ what a strange search engine |
| 16:41.54 | menotume | heh - uses java applets |
| 16:42.16 | bryjen | "powered by Yahoo Search" |
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| 16:44.20 | CBG | :o |
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| 16:51.42 | Birdie | ~dict subscribe |
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| 17:26.28 | fabianne | brlcad: honey im home :D |
| 17:26.29 | fabianne | hah |
| 17:27.43 | Tupone | oh yeah :) |
| 17:27.50 | Tupone | ahh, not fr me :( |
| 17:28.15 | fabianne | ur the back-up ;) |
| 17:28.16 | fabianne | heh |
| 17:28.19 | fabianne | tupo tupi |
| 17:28.29 | Tupone | lol |
| 17:28.30 | Birdie | your second choice |
| 17:28.34 | fabianne | manu manu hola bonito ^_^ |
| 17:28.48 | _Manu_ | fabianne, fabianne hola guapa! ;) |
| 17:29.08 | fabianne | im not a guapy at all >_< |
| 17:29.12 | fabianne | guapa even |
| 17:29.41 | _Manu_ | guapa not only face related ;) |
| 17:29.59 | fabianne | well erk. now that shuts me up. |
| 17:39.47 | fabianne | waaah rollercoaster |
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| 17:41.46 | Birdie | hmm |
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| 17:42.08 | Birdie | what was that? |
| 17:42.25 | CBG | problem with the server ? |
| 17:42.57 | fabianne | 2 options |
| 17:43.00 | fabianne | rollercoaster |
| 17:43.06 | fabianne | or lilo jumping on da cable :D |
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| 18:32.36 | Grumbler | uh oh |
| 18:36.53 | orchid | !weather cyyz |
| 18:36.55 | guu | orchid: The current temperature in Toronto-Pearson International, Ontario is 63°F (2:00 PM EDT on May 19, 2005). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 45%. Dew Point: 41°F. Pressure: 30.09 in (1019 hPa). Visibility: 15.0 miles (24.1 kilometers). UV: 3 out of 16 |
| 18:37.58 | jpa- | hi orchid |
| 18:38.06 | orchid | hi |
| 18:39.33 | Grumbler | ? |
| 18:39.44 | Grumbler | bad day at school or something jpa |
| 18:40.10 | jpa- | good day actually |
| 18:40.26 | Grumbler | they finally kicked you out |
| 18:40.27 | jpa- | i'm just testing if it is true plants dry and die in salt water |
| 18:40.55 | Grumbler | ouch, better watch out, orchids usually come back and kick your butt |
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| 18:41.42 | jpa- | doesn't seem so.. |
| 18:41.46 | jpa- | maybe it worked :) |
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| 18:50.21 | orchid | heh, Ballmer's predicting google wont be around in 5 years |
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| 18:53.27 | Grumbler | hmm, no google.... |
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| 18:53.52 | Grumbler | so, like, is yahoo gonna take over |
| 18:54.09 | Grumbler | or are search engines gonna be obseleted |
| 18:54.37 | orchid | no MS desktop search will rule the world in 10' |
| 18:54.53 | CBG | ~logs |
| 18:54.54 | ibot | methinks logs is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23bzflag/, or stats http://ibot.rikers.org/stats/bzflag.html.gz |
| 18:58.34 | Grumbler | CBG, nothing of great importance, just remember to stay on topic ;) |
| 18:58.58 | CBG | I was off topic? O.o |
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| 19:05.46 | jpa- | hmm.. feeling.. not-evil |
| 19:08.55 | CBG | Ya know bzflag.org has a mini wikipedia... That wasn't custom made, was it? |
| 19:09.11 | jpa- | Grumbler: nooo |
| 19:09.25 | jpa- | i just came from shower.. now i'm stinky again :/ |
| 19:09.25 | Birdie | ~dict diving |
| 19:09.40 | BearPerson | ;-) |
| 19:10.01 | TimRiker | CBG: you mean the wiki? it's an old moinmoin wiki. |
| 19:10.31 | TimRiker | CBG: needs to move now that SF is making web read-only. just not gotten around to it. I'll likely upgrade it in the process. |
| 19:11.20 | TimRiker | CBG: see #moin for info. ;-) |
| 19:11.29 | CBG | TimRiker: Thanks. |
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| 19:13.38 | Tupone | TimRiker: you got my question ? |
| 19:13.58 | TimRiker | Tupone: not that I recall. |
| 19:14.08 | Tupone | do you mind if I switch to a new autoconf ? |
| 19:14.18 | Tupone | configure.in -> configure.ac ? |
| 19:14.43 | TimRiker | hmm. what are the pro's and con's ? |
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| 19:15.16 | Tupone | I wrote a README.XMINGW to cross build bzflag . With new, it is more simple |
| 19:15.44 | CBG | ~dict moin |
| 19:15.46 | Tupone | cons debian stable is not able to build from CVS, just from dist |
| 19:16.36 | fabianne | moin moin |
| 19:16.42 | Tupone | README.XMINGW is just a ... very early release :) |
| 19:17.01 | TimRiker | why do we have both a README.MINGW32 and a README.MINGW ? |
| 19:17.17 | Tupone | XMINGW is cross build linux -> windows |
| 19:17.22 | TimRiker | ~moin |
| 19:17.23 | ibot | well, moin is North German for everything you would say for salutatory |
| 19:17.29 | fabianne | very hamburg |
| 19:17.43 | Tupone | MINGW is just windows for windows |
| 19:18.04 | CBG | Thanks TimRiker and ibot. |
| 19:18.07 | TimRiker | =) |
| 19:18.08 | fabianne | ehem... |
| 19:18.12 | Tupone | we could merge eventually, when XMINGW readme get more complete |
| 19:18.56 | CBG | Thanks fabianne, too. :P |
| 19:19.05 | fabianne | better :D |
| 19:19.30 | jpa- | but she was completely useless, why thank her? |
| 19:19.42 | Tupone | 'cause she is |
| 19:19.51 | fabianne | i am !? |
| 19:19.54 | jpa- | hah :) |
| 19:19.57 | fabianne | ... >_< |
| 19:20.01 | CBG | fabianne is not useless. :P |
| 19:20.09 | Birdie | cough |
| 19:20.12 | Birdie | :) |
| 19:20.18 | fabianne | naja... |
| 19:21.08 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: 03timriker * 10bzflag/README.XMINGW: ws |
| 19:23.15 | TimRiker | Tupone: gut reaction is that not many people will be cross compiling windows, so let's leave it for the moment. |
| 19:23.49 | Tupone | ok, I'll wait for the new branch then. autoconf is pretty old |
| 19:24.48 | Tupone | I need to cross compile to test some change that are valid only for windows, but I don't have windows here |
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| 19:25.11 | spldart | moring |
| 19:25.19 | spldart | oops... I'mma boat |
| 19:25.19 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: 03atupone * 10bzflag/Makefile.am: Add README.XMINGW to make dist |
| 19:25.22 | spldart | Morning |
| 19:25.54 | TimRiker | Tupone: curious... do you then test under wine or something? |
| 19:27.40 | fabianne | nite nite |
| 19:27.48 | Tupone | nope, I tested once giving the exe to DTRemenak |
| 19:29.02 | fabianne | tssk tsssk no toys in bed. |
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| 19:29.27 | Tupone | Even if wine could be a good test suite ... Dunno if I 'll do, but look interesting |
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| 19:55.08 | Thumper_ | jpa you still up? |
| 20:01.49 | TimRiker | In file included from VotingArbiter.cxx:14: |
| 20:01.49 | TimRiker | ../../include/VotingArbiter.h:18:17: deque: No such file or directory |
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| 20:13.11 | Chestal | TimRiker: uh? which compiler is that? |
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| 20:19.16 | TimRiker | Chestal: gcc version 3.3.6 (Debian 1:3.3.6-5) on debian unstable ppc |
| 20:20.20 | Chestal | leider mit ekligen Nicht-Windows-Tasten |
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| 20:20.22 | Chestal | oops |
| 20:20.44 | Chestal | TimRiker: strange, sure you installed the c++ part? :-) |
| 20:22.38 | Chestal | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:35.53 | JeffM2501 | anyone know the easy way to get the flag string from a FlagInfo |
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| 20:38.17 | JeffM2501 | And TimRiker does the server know what users were done global reg vs. local reg? |
| 20:39.13 | TimRiker | JeffM2501: well, the server has 2 dbs, one with local and one with current users. |
| 20:39.40 | JeffM2501 | so for any given user I'd have to check and see if they are in the local db? |
| 20:39.43 | TimRiker | I don't recall a way to test if the current verified user is local or global though. |
| 20:39.45 | JeffM2501 | there isn't a flag on the player structure? |
| 20:40.05 | TimRiker | well, if they are in the local, that still does not mean they verified local. |
| 20:40.45 | JeffM2501 | maybe I should set a marker in the player struct when the tokens match and the user is set to verified by global methods |
| 20:41.03 | JeffM2501 | but I can do that later, gotta finish the rest of this stuff first |
| 20:41.21 | TimRiker | perhaps a new local.verified group? |
| 20:41.47 | JeffM2501 | I was thinking just a bool on the player |
| 20:41.54 | Chestal | why would you want to know whether the player was locally verified? |
| 20:42.16 | JeffM2501 | to know if you want to track there stats globaly |
| 20:42.32 | TimRiker | if it's a group then you can assign permissions to it. if it's just a bool you can't. |
| 20:42.43 | JeffM2501 | it was just a field I had in my player record for the API |
| 20:42.52 | JeffM2501 | TimRiker, don't want permisions |
| 20:42.57 | JeffM2501 | just want to know |
| 20:43.02 | JeffM2501 | not doing permision stuff |
| 20:43.13 | TimRiker | heh. but the next person to ask might want permissions. ;-) |
| 20:43.16 | Chestal | there is the special local.global group |
| 20:43.20 | JeffM2501 | they may |
| 20:43.23 | Chestal | but the details escape me at the moment |
| 20:43.23 | JeffM2501 | so it's good to think of it |
| 20:43.37 | JeffM2501 | but it does not solve my quandry |
| 20:44.02 | Chestal | IIRC that group is _not_ set for player accounts which were created by /register |
| 20:44.33 | JeffM2501 | what do you think it's called? |
| 20:44.38 | JeffM2501 | local.global? |
| 20:44.42 | Chestal | so that could be good enough |
| 20:44.44 | Chestal | yes |
| 20:44.56 | Chestal | EVERYONE VERIFIED LOCAL.GLOBAL LOCAL.ADMIN |
| 20:45.01 | Chestal | that's the groups I am in on my own server |
| 20:45.05 | Chestal | from the user file |
| 20:45.16 | TimRiker | ChanServ: local.global is the ones where the local and the global accounts of the same nick are the same person. http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?p=26864&highlight=& |
| 20:45.18 | Chestal | old accounts from 1.10 don't have that local.global |
| 20:45.24 | JeffM2501 | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:45.25 | JeffM2501 | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:45.25 | JeffM2501 | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:45.25 | JeffM2501 | || playerData->accessInfo.getUserInfo(callsign).hasGroup("LOCAL.GLOBAL")) { |
| 20:45.28 | Chestal | and thus, global login won't work for those |
| 20:45.35 | JeffM2501 | I think that's what does it |
| 20:45.47 | JeffM2501 | global only users I would asume don't have a "real" password |
| 20:45.55 | Chestal | yes |
| 20:46.02 | JeffM2501 | so I can use that for my test :) |
| 20:46.02 | Chestal | they could have both of course |
| 20:46.11 | JeffM2501 | hmm |
| 20:46.15 | JeffM2501 | where does it do the token thing? |
| 20:46.22 | Chestal | so, /identify would give them privileges in case list server is down |
| 20:46.28 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 20:46.39 | TimRiker | JeffM2501: grep for TOKOK |
| 20:46.49 | JeffM2501 | k |
| 20:47.01 | TimRiker | hmm. perhaps it was TOKGOOD ? |
| 20:47.14 | JeffM2501 | it's good |
| 20:47.49 | JeffM2501 | it was right above the code I pasted :( |
| 20:48.01 | TimRiker | =) |
| 20:52.04 | JeffM2501 | cool thanks |
| 20:52.07 | JeffM2501 | that got me what I needed |
| 20:52.24 | JeffM2501 | now to just find how to get the flag name from the ID |
| 20:57.40 | JeffM2501 | wow that sucker is buried in there |
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| 21:34.16 | TimRiker | Chestal: oh, got: /usr/include/c++/3.3/backward/deque.h /usr/include/c++/3.3/bits/deque.tcc /usr/include/c++/3.3/bits/stl_deque.h but no /usr/include/c++/3.3/deque |
| 21:34.43 | Noodleman | JeffM2501: how high does MAL go? |
| 21:34.48 | JeffM2501 | 5 |
| 21:35.45 | Noodleman | ok |
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| 21:39.43 | Tupone | /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.5-20050130/include/g++-v3/deque |
| 21:45.17 | Chestal | TimRiker: do you have /usr/include/c++/3.3/vector and others? |
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| 21:59.55 | orchid | JeffM2501: what do you mean voice over waves? |
| 22:00.53 | JeffM2501 | :) |
| 22:01.00 | orchid | heh |
| 22:01.15 | JeffM2501 | you saying the terms "rampage" "killing spree" and "unstoppable" |
| 22:01.26 | orchid | ha |
| 22:01.30 | JeffM2501 | and perhaps the term "godlike!" |
| 22:01.55 | orchid | I see, so valley girl is what your going for I take it? :) |
| 22:02.01 | JeffM2501 | totaly |
| 22:16.54 | JeffM2501 | by the godess .... it actualy compiles |
| 22:17.24 | Noodleman | hail eris! |
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| 22:36.43 | TimRiker | Chestal: yes |
| 22:38.54 | TimRiker | hmm. I have no g++* in /usr/lib/gcc-lib/powerpc-linux/*/include |
| 22:49.27 | Chestal | dpkg -L libstdc++5-3.3-dev | grep deque |
| 22:49.43 | Chestal | that prints '/usr/include/c++/3.3/deque' among others for me (i386 unstable debian) |
| 22:50.12 | Chestal | either the PPC package is borked or the fiel got deleted for some reason on your system |
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| 23:19.21 | menotume | JeffM2501: pingo |
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| 23:27.36 | JeffM2501 | menotume, ? |
| 23:27.51 | JeffM2501 | DTRemenak, you should wait till I'm done with my changes :) |
| 23:28.02 | JeffM2501 | then you don't have to make it a patch |
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