| 00:05.28 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: 03dtremenak * 10bzflag/acinclude.m4: as the comment says, hex letters MUST BE UPPERCASE if present. fixes failure on bsd. |
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| 03:16.57 | wegstar | nice... |
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| 03:37.36 | jpa- | morning |
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| 08:51.22 | mmu_man | hopefully someday bz will be playable in BeOS :) |
| 08:51.22 | mmu_man | http://www.iscomputeron.com/index/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=648 |
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| 10:59.58 | paraguayanto | ~bzfquery |
| 11:00.17 | paraguayanto | ~bzfquery bzflag.secretplace.us:5255 |
| 11:05.52 | ruskie | ~bzfquery viper.pimpi.org:5158 |
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| 11:33.02 | Ice_Wewe | great |
| 11:33.40 | Ice_Wewe | why can't I connect to the list server or global login server? |
| 11:34.39 | Ice_Wewe | can I get some help here? |
| 11:34.42 | Ice_Wewe | bah |
| 11:34.45 | Ice_Wewe | vm |
| 11:34.47 | Ice_Wewe | nvm |
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| 13:07.35 | jpa- | mroning |
| 13:16.04 | ruskie | lo |
| 13:20.04 | mmu_man | WTF does it ask me for curl ? |
| 13:20.09 | mmu_man | it never required curl before |
| 13:20.36 | BenUrban | to grab textures |
| 13:20.46 | BenUrban | must be |
| 13:22.20 | Tupone | mmu_man: any problem with that ? I make it mandatory ... even listserver access is made with libcurl |
| 13:22.32 | Tupone | s/make/made/ |
| 13:24.21 | mmu_man | Tupone it's just that it means I have to port that and I don't have time for it |
| 13:24.57 | Tupone | ohh, libcurl is not ported there :( |
| 13:25.19 | mmu_man | probably there is an old version somewhere |
| 13:25.27 | mmu_man | http://www.bebits.com/app/3212 |
| 13:25.29 | Tupone | texture downloading are becoming a standard |
| 13:25.41 | Tupone | should be > 7.10.0 |
| 13:25.47 | mmu_man | 7.10.2 oh that one should do if the lib is in |
| 13:26.41 | Tupone | Is BeOS is free? I guess no . If it is free I can have here and help |
| 13:26.58 | mmu_man | R5 personal ed is free |
| 13:27.02 | mmu_man | not Free though |
| 13:27.13 | mmu_man | Haiku is not yet usable |
| 13:27.30 | mmu_man | anyway, got an IDE driver to debug |
| 13:27.51 | mmu_man | actually the whole block dev stack... :^] |
| 13:29.13 | Tupone | This version of BeOS won't boot on computers with Athon XP or Duron processors with the SSE instruction set :( I have a Duron |
| 13:29.45 | ruskie | lol |
| 13:31.01 | mmu_man | there are patched version around |
| 13:31.19 | mmu_man | though I don't think bz will compile without BONE |
| 13:32.13 | mmu_man | Tupone that's because those cpus are buggy, they tell they support SSE2, so BeOs treats tehm as supporting SSE2 |
| 13:32.20 | mmu_man | but their implementation is broken... |
| 13:32.23 | mmu_man | so :) |
| 13:32.37 | mmu_man | never trust cpuid :) |
| 13:33.23 | Tupone | hehe . ok, lemme know if you need help on that libcurl problem. I know you do not |
| 13:33.44 | mmu_man | thx |
| 13:38.40 | ToughShooter | Hmm, these SMD units in PPC (AKA Altivec) are somewhat better than SSE2. I wonder why this concept hasn't been stolen for x86. |
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| 13:51.39 | jolie | hola |
| 13:54.57 | jpa- | lala |
| 13:55.00 | ToughShooter | ¡Hola! |
| 13:55.20 | jpa- | ToughShooter: your utf-8 is hurting my eyes |
| 13:55.23 | ToughShooter | Hi jpa- :) |
| 13:55.32 | jpa- | :) |
| 13:55.44 | ruskie | hmmm had no such problems :) |
| 13:55.52 | ruskie | nice upside down exclamation mark :) |
| 13:56.03 | ToughShooter | Spanish |
| 13:56.57 | ToughShooter | Same goes for questions with a questionmark |
| 13:57.56 | jpa- | i see two charachters.. |
| 13:58.01 | jpa- | instead of ¡ |
| 13:58.16 | ToughShooter | Well, use UTF-8 |
| 13:58.22 | ruskie | :) |
| 13:58.23 | ruskie | yeah |
| 13:58.23 | BenUrban | iHello! |
| 13:58.25 | BenUrban | ;) |
| 13:58.28 | ruskie | lol |
| 13:58.34 | BenUrban | hmph |
| 13:58.38 | BenUrban | doesn't work in this font |
| 13:58.41 | jolie | que? |
| 13:58.41 | ToughShooter | BenUrban: That's an i |
| 13:58.50 | BenUrban | lol i know |
| 13:58.51 | jolie | hi jpa |
| 13:58.54 | jolie | - |
| 13:58.58 | jpa- | hello jolie |
| 14:00.42 | ToughShooter | BenUrban: My OS features a nice char table with signs like "𪈳" :D |
| 14:01.30 | BenUrban | ToughShooter: mac os x, right? |
| 14:01.42 | ToughShooter | yup |
| 14:02.01 | ToughShooter | I can use it right inside my IRC-client |
| 14:02.43 | BenUrban | :) |
| 14:08.57 | BenUrban | ß????? |
| 14:09.29 | BenUrban | :) |
| 14:10.17 | jolie | no entiendo öß |
| 14:11.30 | jpa- | ¹ª¹¹ªª |
| 14:12.36 | jolie | osea... ²³··áßollöck |
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| 16:46.58 | menotume | Tupone: ping |
| 16:47.06 | Tupone | :) |
| 16:47.10 | menotume | hi :) |
| 16:47.15 | menotume | got a minute ? |
| 16:47.16 | Tupone | hey |
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| 16:47.18 | Tupone | yeah |
| 16:47.27 | menotume | I installed FC3 here |
| 16:47.40 | menotume | and bzflag is very 'sluggish' .... |
| 16:47.48 | menotume | with mouse response |
| 16:47.56 | menotume | I dunno if it's SDL or what |
| 16:48.13 | Tupone | with keyboard is ok? |
| 16:48.18 | menotume | but, sometimes it seems to be a second behind my mouse movements |
| 16:48.30 | menotume | hmmm, i can't really play with kb |
| 16:48.43 | menotume | i was thinking i'd like to try a non-SDL build |
| 16:48.45 | Tupone | neither I can :) |
| 16:48.54 | menotume | but it's not working |
| 16:49.04 | menotume | does the same thing it did on my RH9 system |
| 16:49.07 | Tupone | I know non-SDL has some problem |
| 16:49.13 | menotume | ahhh |
| 16:49.24 | menotume | it was fine on RH9 |
| 16:49.29 | Tupone | so you have to stick with SDL |
| 16:49.37 | menotume | and, i have the same main SDL version running |
| 16:49.42 | menotume | ok |
| 16:50.05 | Tupone | have you changed the xserver ... |
| 16:50.05 | menotume | i'm just wondering where to start looking |
| 16:50.09 | menotume | yes |
| 16:50.15 | menotume | is the latest xorg |
| 16:50.33 | menotume | xorg-x11-6.8.2-1.FC3.13 |
| 16:50.36 | Tupone | can you make a printout of the mouse coordinate from within bzflag |
| 16:50.48 | menotume | ? |
| 16:50.58 | Tupone | change the code :) |
| 16:51.07 | menotume | log mouse movements ? |
| 16:51.21 | Tupone | yeah :/ |
| 16:51.33 | menotume | i guess so |
| 16:51.39 | menotume | would that help ? |
| 16:51.43 | Tupone | you see the mouse cross movement delayed, you said |
| 16:51.50 | menotume | sometimes, yes |
| 16:51.55 | menotume | it's intermittant |
| 16:52.13 | menotume | sometimes it's just like I lose total control |
| 16:52.18 | Tupone | I guess problem is fro other side ... maybe sound |
| 16:52.23 | menotume | yes |
| 16:52.25 | menotume | could be |
| 16:52.36 | Tupone | can you disable it? |
| 16:52.57 | menotume | I'll close all other apps that use sound, and siable sound in bz |
| 16:52.59 | Tupone | forcing a non supported driver |
| 16:53.01 | menotume | disable |
| 16:53.07 | menotume | ahhh |
| 16:53.27 | menotume | like just put balh as the driver ? |
| 16:53.40 | Tupone | you can try yes |
| 16:53.46 | menotume | ok, will do, thx |
| 16:54.08 | menotume | it feels like something else in the backround is running sometimes (mouse-wise) |
| 16:54.17 | menotume | but, i have diabled all but the basics |
| 16:54.28 | menotume | and graphics are fine |
| 16:54.37 | Tupone | gpm is disabled? |
| 16:55.03 | menotume | gpm is running |
| 16:55.20 | Tupone | :( ... dunno .. it takes the mouse |
| 16:55.23 | menotume | thta's just for console, right ? |
| 16:55.30 | Tupone | yeah |
| 16:55.31 | menotume | so i can disable it |
| 16:55.35 | menotume | ok - will do |
| 16:56.00 | menotume | good - i'll do some testing - THANKS ! |
| 16:56.07 | menotume | ~Tupone++ |
| 16:56.16 | Tupone | it works ? |
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| 16:56.23 | menotume | heh, not yet |
| 16:56.33 | menotume | it'll take a little while to test it - to make sure |
| 16:56.41 | menotume | is pretty intermittant |
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| 17:07.08 | trepan | can anyone get my a glxinfo report from a fairly recent ATI card/driver ? |
| 17:07.10 | trepan | s/my/me |
| 17:09.03 | Chestal | trepan: http://www.home.unix-ag.org/thilo/files/9600xt.txt |
| 17:10.43 | trepan | perfect, thanks |
| 17:12.03 | menotume | Tupone: so far, so good (with gpm and soud disabled) |
| 17:12.14 | Tupone | ok, enable sound then :) |
| 17:12.17 | menotume | I'll keep playinng wiht it, sound on/sound off |
| 17:12.23 | menotume | yep |
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| 17:12.51 | menotume | since it was intermittant, i'll play with it both ways for the rest of the day |
| 17:12.58 | Tupone | ok |
| 17:13.55 | menotume | the sound i 'funky' when it's enabled - sounds tinny, sometimes delayed |
| 17:14.12 | menotume | (Esd) |
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| 17:15.24 | trepan | ick, i wouldn't use a daemon for sound |
| 17:16.01 | menotume | what to use then ? |
| 17:16.20 | trepan | alsa |
| 17:16.22 | menotume | assuming i have othere apps using esd |
| 17:16.43 | trepan | dunno if you'll have a conflict |
| 17:17.00 | menotume | is there an alsa equivilent to esdplay ? |
| 17:18.14 | trepan | what does esdplay do for you? any file type? (there is alsaplayer) |
| 17:18.49 | menotume | not sure how many file types it supports |
| 17:19.01 | menotume | but, other apps use esdplay to play sounds |
| 17:19.05 | menotume | like x-chat |
| 17:19.16 | menotume | it's configurable |
| 17:19.18 | trepan | ah, gotcha |
| 17:19.49 | trepan | just try alsa in bzflag, see what it does for ya (assuming you have alsa in your kernel) |
| 17:19.49 | menotume | i don't have alsa, but I can get it :) |
| 17:20.00 | ruskie | hmm never tried alsa with bzflag |
| 17:20.10 | menotume | i would assume there would be a conflict (like device not available) |
| 17:20.27 | Chestal | I'm not even sure if bzflag uses alsa or OSS emulation for me |
| 17:21.01 | ruskie | I think it uses oss by default |
| 17:21.33 | menotume | poor mmu_man lost focus again |
| 17:21.42 | ruskie | lol |
| 17:22.00 | Chestal | skype ist doch böse, oder? |
| 17:22.02 | Chestal | oopsa |
| 17:24.33 | Tupone | menotume: esd isn't good for bzflag. Dunno if the problem is that bzflag is consuming all CPU, and esd gets none |
| 17:25.09 | learner | skype is pretty nifty |
| 17:25.23 | Tupone | learner: you use that? |
| 17:25.27 | Tupone | and hi :) |
| 17:25.59 | learner | not myself, my friends have it and were showing it to me |
| 17:26.25 | Tupone | I have at mum ... never used :/ |
| 17:27.30 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: 03atupone * 10bzflag/src/c-ares/Makefile.am: Should fix building on MinGW |
| 17:27.46 | Tupone | learner: we have new files created as 1.1 :( while we are at 2.x |
| 17:28.09 | Tupone | I dunno if there is a way to force 2.0 creation in CVS |
| 17:28.16 | learner | should happen for new dirs only |
| 17:28.17 | sgk284 | learner, yea skype is nice |
| 17:28.25 | sgk284 | :) |
| 17:28.36 | sgk284 | decent quality even over horrific bandwidth |
| 17:29.14 | Tupone | learner: niet! cURLManager get 1.1 |
| 17:29.42 | learner | that's odd |
| 17:30.07 | Tupone | well, the number is just something from RCS, I don't think we should know it |
| 17:30.20 | Tupone | so, np |
| 17:30.39 | learner | it's not important except for logical grouping and talking about change numbers |
| 17:30.58 | Tupone | logical grouping -> tag |
| 17:31.03 | learner | having smaller consistent numbers is the main motivator |
| 17:31.48 | learner | sure, except when one has to talk about 1.832 vs 2.3 |
| 17:32.06 | Tupone | lol ... we have gone that large |
| 17:32.10 | learner | if you do cvs status a lot, it starts to matter |
| 17:32.46 | Tupone | kde -> subversion |
| 17:32.56 | learner | yeah, configure.in, bzflag.cxx, and bzfs.cxx in particular had gotten pretty large |
| 17:34.23 | learner | for all it's warts, cvs is pretty well understood |
| 17:34.42 | Tupone | ~dict warts |
| 17:34.43 | learner | for new projects it makes sense to use something like svn, but for established it's a harder case |
| 17:34.55 | learner | s/warts/problems/ |
| 17:34.57 | trepan | ~dict wart |
| 17:35.36 | Tupone | there will be an openCVS too |
| 17:35.58 | trepan | learner: not fond of svn tie-in with apache |
| 17:36.48 | learner | basically "it works" .. so the motivation generally has to be an overwhelming lack of familiarity with cvs with one's developers or an ancillary benefit like not requiring system accounts for a read/write checkout -- that again get's back to new projects since most existing deal with it easily enough |
| 17:37.56 | learner | i'm not fond of switching to svn just for the heck of it, or because someone doesn't understand how cvs does branches or deals with conflicts |
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| 17:39.00 | learner | that said, several months after sf.net adopts it, assuming they have a history-preserving migration, I will probably migrate some projects to it |
| 17:39.39 | learner | sf.net's svn adoption will be huge for that project |
| 17:40.29 | trepan | there a date for that? |
| 17:40.53 | learner | Tupone, curious -- have you ever deleted your sources and checked out cleanly since 2.0 ? |
| 17:41.02 | Tupone | I don't have problem with CVS, except getting file from a branch specifying a date, changing file-location/name .. |
| 17:41.03 | learner | trepan, yeah, you didn't get the memo? :) |
| 17:41.06 | learner | er, e-mail :) |
| 17:41.06 | Tupone | yeah |
| 17:41.17 | trepan | got lost amongst the TPS reports |
| 17:41.45 | learner | looks like the new stats system is still going to be the "first" of a series of major updates to the site |
| 17:42.39 | Tupone | GAIM is still top active |
| 17:42.45 | learner | ahh, it was sent to project admins |
| 17:42.58 | learner | stats haven't changed since Jan |
| 17:43.16 | learner | they were frozen on the 11th or something |
| 17:43.35 | Tupone | so the new stat is not on? |
| 17:43.38 | learner | the new stats ranking rules should knock gaim off of the top |
| 17:43.43 | learner | not yet |
| 17:44.05 | learner | lemme post up the e-mail, it's pretty interesting |
| 17:45.08 | ruskie | hmmm is it possible to define groups of objects in bzw and then rotate a single group by N degrees? |
| 17:45.19 | trepan | yup |
| 17:45.42 | trepan | rotate about any direction as well, not just the z axis |
| 17:45.43 | ruskie | excelenet... most excelent... muahahahaha |
| 17:46.06 | ruskie | now if I canonly figure out how to get my sketch into a bzw |
| 17:46.29 | ruskie | btw is it possible to limit radar on a map to only some size? |
| 17:46.36 | ruskie | i.e. no zoomin zomout beyond some point |
| 17:46.44 | trepan | _radarLimit |
| 17:46.52 | learner | http://bzflag.bz/tmp/sfnet.txt |
| 17:47.33 | trepan | if it's <= 0, it disables radar |
| 17:48.27 | learner | the other big changes to care about are the support for daily snapshots in the file release system, no outbound e-mail and read-only web services |
| 17:48.55 | learner | http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1109940&group_id=1&atid=350001 |
| 17:49.30 | ruskie | learner, no outbound email? |
| 17:49.45 | learner | on the web services side |
| 17:50.01 | ruskie | ahh |
| 17:50.02 | learner | which I actually think they seriously limit already |
| 17:50.24 | learner | if it looks like an automated message, their spam filter kills it |
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| 17:51.13 | learner | they were getting blacklisted by several major spamlist groups due to rogue projects causing trouble |
| 17:52.27 | learner | the new stats look pretty cool .. balance of traffic, development, and communication activity |
| 17:52.46 | ruskie | hmmm what's the normal size of a tank |
| 17:53.37 | ruskie | XxYxZ |
| 17:55.48 | JeffM2501 | 8.04 2.8 2.08 |
| 17:56.23 | ruskie | tnx |
| 17:56.29 | JeffM2501 | sure |
| 17:56.53 | ruskie | there any docs on how the flags change the size? |
| 17:57.28 | JeffM2501 | the code |
| 17:58.33 | Chestal | ruskie: src/common/global.cxx has the default values for the variables |
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| 18:08.50 | ruskie | hmmm can't find the narrow definition ow wide is narrow? |
| 18:19.38 | trepan | rb2, with a headlight: http://trepan.bzflag.bz/rb2.jpg |
| 18:20.08 | trepan | think the length is 6.0, they're defined in src/common/global.cxx |
| 18:22.08 | trepan | Chestal: oops, ditto |
| 18:25.28 | ToughShooter | How does that name field in teleporter works? It isn't described good in http://my.bzflag.org/bzfman.cgi?bzw.5s |
| 18:25.56 | ToughShooter | I've got no luck with the MapMaking entry in wiki, either. :( |
| 18:26.01 | Birdie | if i see what baron did, it just feels as i jump...cough:) |
| 18:26.16 | trepan | the 'teleporter <tag>' is used for linking, not the 'name <tag>' |
| 18:26.50 | ToughShooter | This is my try so far: http://pastebin.com/281791 |
| 18:27.33 | trepan | don't use the [] chars |
| 18:28.02 | trepan | they mean 'optional' |
| 18:28.14 | learner | trepan, you mean.. *cough* they're not optional? :) |
| 18:28.23 | ToughShooter | Still broken links :( |
| 18:28.54 | trepan | did you use -d -d -d -d with bzfs? |
| 18:29.04 | ToughShooter | Only one -d |
| 18:29.14 | trepan | ... and you don't have :f or :b |
| 18:29.27 | trepan | # Teleporter names are terminated with either :f (forward) |
| 18:29.28 | trepan | # or :b (backwards). |
| 18:29.29 | learner | or :P |
| 18:29.37 | trepan | straight from the man page... |
| 18:29.45 | ToughShooter | Hmm |
| 18:29.54 | trepan | should be 'teleporter link names' i guess |
| 18:30.25 | ToughShooter | Have :f and :b be in the 'porter name or used at link thingy? |
| 18:30.52 | ToughShooter | s/Have/Should |
| 18:34.31 | trepan | novel approach |
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| 18:36.17 | ToughShooter | ~x de en novel |
| 18:36.30 | ToughShooter | ~dict novel |
| 18:36.40 | ToughShooter | AAhh |
| 18:38.54 | ToughShooter | I figured out how to use links now. Thanks for the hints. |
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| 18:42.01 | ruskie | hmmm ok this is where all of my povraying will come in handy... |
| 18:45.55 | ruskie | hmmm what's the diff between rotation and spin? |
| 18:47.17 | ToughShooter | ruskie: It comes clear in http://www.kapsi.fi/~jpa/stuff/bzw/transformations.php |
| 18:47.41 | jpa- | :) |
| 18:48.09 | ToughShooter | Just imagine spin is more powerful than rotation |
| 18:48.14 | ruskie | so spin is just a different way of saying rotation |
| 18:48.14 | ruskie | :) |
| 18:48.23 | ruskie | good to know.. |
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| 18:59.10 | Ice_Wewe | Jeff |
| 18:59.20 | Ice_Wewe | I have a problem (like thats new news) |
| 18:59.37 | Ice_Wewe | my client wont connect to the list server or the global login server! |
| 18:59.59 | Ice_Wewe | and yes I do have a new CVS version |
| 19:00.27 | JeffM2501 | what OS? |
| 19:00.55 | Ice_Wewe | fedora |
| 19:01.21 | JeffM2501 | get any error messages? |
| 19:01.58 | Ice_Wewe | where? in the client or terminal? |
| 19:02.25 | JeffM2501 | anywhere |
| 19:02.36 | Ice_Wewe | yea |
| 19:02.43 | JeffM2501 | and those errors are? |
| 19:02.44 | Ice_Wewe | it says can't connect to list server |
| 19:02.59 | Ice_Wewe | and the Message of the Day doesn't get loaded either |
| 19:03.06 | Ice_Wewe | its like I'm on a ban list |
| 19:03.09 | Ice_Wewe | for everything |
| 19:03.12 | JeffM2501 | is it a clean build or did you update old soures |
| 19:03.17 | JeffM2501 | there is no ban list motod |
| 19:03.20 | Ice_Wewe | I can still connect to individual serves |
| 19:03.24 | JeffM2501 | more then likley you just didn't build with lib curl |
| 19:03.29 | Ice_Wewe | I did |
| 19:03.32 | JeffM2501 | libCURL is used for all HTTP stuff now |
| 19:03.36 | Ice_Wewe | I have it |
| 19:03.46 | Ice_Wewe | "libCURL enabled" |
| 19:03.49 | JeffM2501 | did you rerun config when you upated? |
| 19:03.55 | Ice_Wewe | yes |
| 19:03.55 | JeffM2501 | or is it clean sources? |
| 19:04.02 | JeffM2501 | I'd ask tupone then |
| 19:04.03 | Ice_Wewe | updated source |
| 19:04.05 | JeffM2501 | he's been working on it |
| 19:04.07 | JeffM2501 | a lot |
| 19:04.10 | Ice_Wewe | Jeff |
| 19:04.13 | JeffM2501 | changing it all over to use libcurl |
| 19:04.20 | Tupone | yeah :) |
| 19:04.23 | Ice_Wewe | on Hepcat it says I'mnot even registered |
| 19:04.33 | JeffM2501 | well that makes sense |
| 19:04.36 | Ice_Wewe | but on other servers it says I'm registered but not Idenified |
| 19:04.37 | JeffM2501 | if you can't get to the server |
| 19:04.42 | Tupone | when you updated? |
| 19:04.51 | JeffM2501 | Ice_Wewe, if you want a stable game, DON'T RUN DEV CODE |
| 19:04.51 | Ice_Wewe | and I've checked my password over and over again, its fine |
| 19:04.57 | JeffM2501 | ITS NOT YOU |
| 19:04.58 | Ice_Wewe | ok ok |
| 19:05.07 | JeffM2501 | if you don't get motd, then NOTHING is going to work |
| 19:05.13 | Ice_Wewe | I updated last night |
| 19:05.18 | Ice_Wewe | ok ok |
| 19:05.21 | Tupone | and you are linux? |
| 19:05.26 | JeffM2501 | what did you need the dev build for? |
| 19:05.29 | Ice_Wewe | yea |
| 19:05.48 | Ice_Wewe | but I don't think it works on my Mac OS X machine either (and thats a stable buid) |
| 19:05.52 | Tupone | Have you a log of your config ? |
| 19:05.53 | Ice_Wewe | its 2.0.0 |
| 19:05.56 | Ice_Wewe | yea |
| 19:06.02 | JeffM2501 | what version of libcurl do you have? |
| 19:06.02 | Ice_Wewe | want it? |
| 19:06.03 | Tupone | can you pasetbin |
| 19:06.08 | Ice_Wewe | yea I can |
| 19:06.23 | Ice_Wewe | JeffM250, How do I find out? |
| 19:06.27 | JeffM2501 | I dono |
| 19:06.32 | Tupone | curl-config |
| 19:06.34 | JeffM2501 | would depend on your package system |
| 19:06.36 | JeffM2501 | or that |
| 19:06.40 | JeffM2501 | Tupone is the curl master |
| 19:06.42 | Ice_Wewe | ok hold on |
| 19:06.50 | JeffM2501 | but what did you need the development build for? |
| 19:06.53 | Ice_Wewe | tupone, you want the config.log correct? |
| 19:07.00 | Tupone | yeah |
| 19:07.07 | Ice_Wewe | The RPM packages don't work with my system |
| 19:07.14 | Ice_Wewe | ok will do |
| 19:07.59 | Tupone | JeffM2501: I need one ring to get them all .. I mean a config.log (perhaps) to fix all |
| 19:08.13 | Tupone | even if he does not need to run dev |
| 19:08.23 | JeffM2501 | well yeah, we want to fix it :) |
| 19:08.25 | Ice_Wewe | http://pastebin.ca/11329 |
| 19:08.29 | JeffM2501 | just wonndering what he was looking for |
| 19:08.39 | JeffM2501 | or he he knows he's just helping you test :) |
| 19:09.02 | Ice_Wewe | I want it fixed, even if that means being a guinea pig, and waiting for the results |
| 19:09.29 | JeffM2501 | Current CVS ALLWAYS means guinea pig |
| 19:09.34 | Tupone | menotume work with fc3 too, and it works |
| 19:09.37 | Ice_Wewe | I don't care what I'm doing, it is a priority for me to get this fixed, I have cop duties on hepcat I'm supposed to be doing |
| 19:09.55 | Ice_Wewe | JeffM2501, I know |
| 19:10.00 | JeffM2501 | Ice_Wewe, that's my point, if you want a version that is going to be stable, then use a release |
| 19:10.09 | JeffM2501 | don't expect a CVS one to be rock solid |
| 19:10.21 | Ice_Wewe | JeffM2501, I like to do things my own way, I don't feel I need a reason |
| 19:10.26 | JeffM2501 | ok |
| 19:10.29 | Ice_Wewe | I don't |
| 19:10.32 | JeffM2501 | then expect it to not work :) |
| 19:10.36 | jpa- | testing cvs is nice |
| 19:10.36 | Ice_Wewe | ok I will |
| 19:10.42 | Ice_Wewe | ditto |
| 19:10.44 | JeffM2501 | and don't say stuff like "I need to do cop duitys" |
| 19:10.48 | jpa- | but i like to keep working stable around too |
| 19:10.59 | Ice_Wewe | in the words of my dad "I like to be bleeding edge" |
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| 19:11.06 | Ice_Wewe | fien, I wont |
| 19:11.17 | JeffM2501 | tho odd that it wouldn't work for you |
| 19:11.26 | JeffM2501 | I'd think FC3 would have a decently new libCURL |
| 19:11.41 | Ice_Wewe | how do I check the version again? |
| 19:11.42 | trepan | folks on the bleeding edge usually have the skills to deal with the cuts |
| 19:11.52 | Tupone | Ice_Wewe: have you built from a clean directory? |
| 19:12.04 | Ice_Wewe | Tupone, yes I have |
| 19:12.06 | jpa- | ...if they don't they simply bleed dry |
| 19:12.07 | Tupone | 12.3 is the libcurl version |
| 19:12.13 | Ice_Wewe | trepan, I hate blood |
| 19:12.17 | Tupone | that you have |
| 19:12.26 | JeffM2501 | then why do you want the bleeding edge it sees the most blood :) |
| 19:12.31 | Ice_Wewe | is that fairly new? |
| 19:13.02 | Ice_Wewe | I don't know, I gave up SuSE, even though it had working sound, to play BZFlag |
| 19:13.07 | Tupone | it should work, but I need to put a debugger on :/ |
| 19:13.15 | Ice_Wewe | if thats not determination, tell me what is |
| 19:13.22 | Ice_Wewe | so bzflag -ddddd |
| 19:13.37 | Tupone | no, I need an ssh version :/ |
| 19:13.42 | Ice_Wewe | say what? |
| 19:13.53 | Ice_Wewe | you need access to my machine is what your saying? |
| 19:14.06 | Tupone | yeah. I can't otherwise :( |
| 19:14.08 | Ice_Wewe | pfff good luck |
| 19:14.34 | jpa- | poor Tupone :) |
| 19:14.38 | Ice_Wewe | my dad has the firewall set up so only 2 services make it through, plus our firewall doesn't respond to pings |
| 19:14.50 | Ice_Wewe | so can you tell me another way you can safely get in? |
| 19:14.50 | jpa- | nc would do.. i think |
| 19:14.57 | Ice_Wewe | vnc? |
| 19:15.01 | jpa- | but that is not safe as ssh |
| 19:15.07 | Ice_Wewe | well |
| 19:15.11 | Ice_Wewe | I would be willing |
| 19:15.12 | Tupone | I just need port 22 opened |
| 19:15.13 | trepan | vnc can run over ssh |
| 19:15.23 | Ice_Wewe | just as long as it doesn't compermise security |
| 19:15.30 | jpa- | Tupone: any port will do, actually |
| 19:15.32 | Ice_Wewe | Tupone, no. Chose another port |
| 19:15.37 | Tupone | bzflag on vnc should run great :) |
| 19:15.41 | Ice_Wewe | not! |
| 19:15.45 | Tupone | lol |
| 19:15.50 | Ice_Wewe | yes, I've done that before |
| 19:16.01 | Ice_Wewe | vnced through an ssh tunnel |
| 19:16.01 | jpa- | Tupone: i've done that |
| 19:16.02 | Tupone | lemme think |
| 19:16.06 | Ice_Wewe | Tupone |
| 19:16.11 | Ice_Wewe | there is an open port |
| 19:16.17 | jpa- | it worked .. well, fine ,) |
| 19:16.17 | Ice_Wewe | but its for web stuff only |
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| 19:16.42 | jpa- | braddie <3 |
| 19:17.15 | brad2901 | jpa- ... <3 |
| 19:17.22 | trepan | you could use a reverse forwarded port through ssh, think i've done that before |
| 19:18.00 | Ice_Wewe | trepan, how would you set that up? |
| 19:18.02 | jpa- | trepan: hmm.. might work actually |
| 19:18.30 | trepan | ssh with -L or -R option, haven't done it in about 3 yrs |
| 19:18.35 | Ice_Wewe | so your saying I ssh into him, and he then sshes into me through that pipe? |
| 19:18.43 | jpa- | one needs telnet service on your comp, and you need to ssh -R 12345:localhost:telnetport tuponeuser@tuponecomputer |
| 19:19.01 | Ice_Wewe | no |
| 19:19.04 | Ice_Wewe | I wont telnet |
| 19:19.07 | Ice_Wewe | to unsecure |
| 19:19.14 | jpa- | telnet would go inside ssh pipe |
| 19:19.23 | jpa- | while, yes, you could just ssh inside ssh |
| 19:19.28 | jpa- | might be even easier |
| 19:19.58 | Tupone | I prefer remote debugging via IRC :) |
| 19:20.17 | trepan | but the latency is killer ;) |
| 19:20.25 | trepan | and the bits get garbled |
| 19:20.37 | Ice_Wewe | here is the debugging output |
| 19:20.38 | Ice_Wewe | http://pastebin.ca/11330 |
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| 19:21.06 | Ice_Wewe | does it help to tell you that I don't have unlimited bandwidth |
| 19:21.15 | Ice_Wewe | 200kb/s and a 10GB roof |
| 19:22.01 | jpa- | kbit or kbyte? |
| 19:22.06 | Ice_Wewe | ummm |
| 19:22.09 | Ice_Wewe | kbyte |
| 19:22.28 | Ice_Wewe | I can pull a MB in about 3-7 seconds |
| 19:22.32 | jpa- | few have more bandwidth at their homes |
| 19:22.47 | Ice_Wewe | eheh |
| 19:26.12 | Ice_Wewe | dam |
| 19:26.28 | Ice_Wewe | I just accidently posted my password on pastebin! |
| 19:26.30 | Ice_Wewe | oh well |
| 19:26.36 | Ice_Wewe | its to good to replace |
| 19:26.43 | Ice_Wewe | besides, I just memorized it! |
| 19:27.01 | jpa- | it is good to tell everyone you posted it :) |
| 19:27.08 | Ice_Wewe | thanks |
| 19:27.17 | Ice_Wewe | but what I didn't tell you is what the URL s |
| 19:27.19 | Ice_Wewe | here it is |
| 19:27.20 | Ice_Wewe | http://pastebin.ca/11332 |
| 19:27.22 | Ice_Wewe | lol |
| 19:27.28 | Ice_Wewe | thats the one without my password |
| 19:27.32 | Ice_Wewe | so feel free to look |
| 19:27.36 | jpa- | there is that "recent posters" thing |
| 19:27.39 | Ice_Wewe | thats my config.cf file |
| 19:27.50 | Ice_Wewe | anoymous |
| 19:27.52 | Ice_Wewe | ehe |
| 19:28.08 | jpa- | so your password is "a82b8465c67f53"? |
| 19:29.15 | jpa- | :E |
| 19:29.19 | Ice_Wewe | oh well jsut tell the whole world |
| 19:30.06 | jpa- | i just helped you |
| 19:30.17 | jpa- | anyone could have seen it, while you thought they wouldn't :) |
| 19:30.52 | Ice_Wewe | bah |
| 19:30.54 | ToughShooter | Some meanies could have taken it yet |
| 19:30.58 | Ice_Wewe | its just a random MD5 sum of a file on one of the computer in the house |
| 19:31.04 | Ice_Wewe | there are plenty more |
| 19:31.12 | Ice_Wewe | or I could just add a few extra digits |
| 19:31.14 | jpa- | "random md5sum"? :) |
| 19:31.18 | Ice_Wewe | yea |
| 19:31.24 | Ice_Wewe | I pick a file from a dir |
| 19:31.31 | Ice_Wewe | and do an md5 sum on it |
| 19:31.43 | jpa- | but the md5sum itself isn't random |
| 19:31.50 | Ice_Wewe | thenwrite down the first couple digits, and use that for a password |
| 19:32.04 | BearPerson | I'd dd if=/dev/random of=/dev/stdout bs=1M count=1 | md5sum |
| 19:32.29 | BearPerson | though there are nicer ways to get random alnum stuff |
| 19:33.08 | Ice_Wewe | jpa-, I take a file that no one else has a copy of, like a text file |
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| 19:34.07 | CBG | Hi all. :) |
| 19:34.12 | Ice_Wewe | thats nice, I like my way better |
| 19:34.14 | Ice_Wewe | hey |
| 19:35.23 | CBG | Anychance JeffM2501 is listening/watching? |
| 19:35.33 | Ice_Wewe | yes |
| 19:35.36 | Ice_Wewe | a very good chance |
| 19:36.00 | jpa- | if i was jeff, i'd just remain silent :) |
| 19:36.50 | Ice_Wewe | lol |
| 19:37.02 | CBG | Well. Thats the last time I make you lot a banner for the bb out of the kindness of my heart. :P |
| 19:37.22 | Ice_Wewe | lol |
| 19:37.44 | Ice_Wewe | !!!!!!!!!!THANKS!!!!!!!!!!!! but you know BZFlag is not-for-profit |
| 19:38.04 | CBG | I did it because I wanted to say thanks to you all, but mainly jeff. |
| 19:38.09 | CBG | Your all great! http://www.kaziaz.com/stuff/bzbblogo.png |
| 19:38.43 | Ice_Wewe | great |
| 19:38.47 | Ice_Wewe | I'm going to eat |
| 19:38.48 | CBG | Jeff mentioned in a forum post that the bb banner needed re-doing... |
| 19:38.49 | Ice_Wewe | oh right |
| 19:38.55 | Ice_Wewe | AFTER i look at this banner |
| 19:39.08 | CBG | Its the same as the current one, but not so crappy. :) |
| 19:39.21 | Ice_Wewe | very nice |
| 19:39.24 | CBG | ty |
| 19:39.28 | Ice_Wewe | now LETS EAT!!!!!!! |
| 19:39.32 | CBG | I added a glow to "BZFlag" ;) |
| 19:39.37 | CBG | Enjow your mean ice! |
| 19:40.22 | Ice_Wewe | thanks |
| 19:40.24 | Ice_Wewe | I will |
| 19:42.07 | Tupone | menotume: you said you are in FC3. Yes ? |
| 19:46.35 | JeffM2501 | CBG, huh? |
| 19:46.46 | JeffM2501 | ohh yeah we could use a new header |
| 19:46.56 | JeffM2501 | I haven't had any good ideas |
| 19:49.15 | CBG | I posted a link, Jeff. |
| 19:49.55 | JeffM2501 | where? |
| 19:50.27 | JeffM2501 | that's just a new logo, I was thinking of an entire header |
| 19:50.39 | JeffM2501 | nice glow on the text tho |
| 19:52.48 | CBG | Lol. |
| 19:52.54 | CBG | The whole thing took 2 mins... |
| 19:53.10 | CBG | The hardest part was getting the red tank I had, to look the right shade of blue... |
| 19:53.33 | CBG | When you save a photoshop image as a png, it ends up lighter than you expect... eh. :) |
| 19:53.45 | CBG | What did you have in mind in the way of a full header? |
| 19:55.28 | Ice_Wewe | use gimp ;) |
| 19:55.44 | CBG | Why? |
| 19:55.54 | Ice_Wewe | cause its free |
| 19:56.00 | Ice_Wewe | I'm cheap |
| 19:56.10 | brad2901 | but if he already has photoshop, what's the point? :) |
| 19:56.23 | Ice_Wewe | i dunno |
| 19:57.17 | CBG | What if he got Photoshop for free??? :? |
| 19:57.41 | Ice_Wewe | meh |
| 19:58.18 | jpa- | what if we would have a great program called gimp that is open source? |
| 19:58.32 | Ice_Wewe | meh |
| 19:58.35 | Ice_Wewe | its been done |
| 19:58.56 | CBG | Why is it better if its open source? |
| 19:59.22 | jpa- | because it is open source! |
| 19:59.27 | jpa- | :P |
| 19:59.35 | CBG | ..... |
| 20:00.14 | Ice_Wewe | cause everyone with a computer can use it |
| 20:00.16 | jpa- | why is bzflag better than urban assault? :) |
| 20:00.37 | Ice_Wewe | cause its free |
| 20:01.03 | JeffM2501 | CBG, that depends on your color space settings. |
| 20:01.23 | CBG | JeffM2501: Sorry... What does? |
| 20:01.55 | JeffM2501 | the png geting lighter or darker |
| 20:02.20 | CBG | Oh. Would these color space settings be in my Photoshop prefs, OS prefs or what? |
| 20:02.27 | JeffM2501 | PS prefs |
| 20:02.58 | CBG | Ok. Ill have a look! Thanks. |
| 20:03.45 | CBG | PS Color Settings are set to "Web Graphics Default" :s |
| 20:04.29 | JeffM2501 | then those are darker then your system display setings :) |
| 20:04.42 | CBG | Gah. |
| 20:04.42 | JeffM2501 | PS can do full color space management |
| 20:04.47 | JeffM2501 | kinda a PITA to set up right |
| 20:06.03 | CBG | Ah. Match. Ill bbl. Bye |
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| 20:19.13 | CBG | ibot, what is a do? |
| 20:19.15 | ibot | CBG: I think you lost me on that one |
| 20:19.24 | CBG | ibot, what is do? |
| 20:19.25 | ibot | ACTION doesn't do $1, or an event like a party |
| 20:20.00 | CBG | ibot, do is also To do, is to act, speak, etc. |
| 20:20.01 | ibot | ACTION does is also To do, is to act, speak, etc.. |
| 20:20.31 | CBG | ibot, what is do? |
| 20:20.32 | ibot | ACTION doesn't do $1, or an event like a party |
| 20:20.40 | CBG | what is does? |
| 20:20.49 | CBG | ibot, what is does? |
| 20:20.50 | ibot | well, does is the present third singular of do |
| 20:26.09 | JeffM2501 | hah, it's funny when you find old forums you made that you forgot about |
| 20:27.13 | purple_cow | JeffM2501: very :) |
| 20:27.14 | JeffM2501 | tho I must say, one of my better forum headers |
| 20:27.15 | CBG | It is? |
| 20:27.19 | JeffM2501 | it is |
| 20:27.27 | JeffM2501 | forgot the p24 forums were still working |
| 20:27.28 | JeffM2501 | http://p24.bakadigital.com/p24bb/index.php |
| 20:27.30 | CBG | I'll take your word for it. |
| 20:27.44 | JeffM2501 | so very very old |
| 20:27.57 | CBG | one of your better forum headers, alright! ;) |
| 20:28.52 | CBG | I fint it more embarrasing than funny :( http://cannonballguy.proboards29.com/index.cgi?board=general |
| 20:29.08 | JeffM2501 | it's not your hosting |
| 20:29.09 | CBG | Sorry: http://cannonballguy.proboards29.com/index.cgi not the above link. |
| 20:29.12 | JeffM2501 | so there isn't much youc an do with it |
| 20:29.13 | CBG | I know... :( |
| 20:29.24 | CBG | You can practically copmpletely customize it... |
| 20:29.29 | CBG | Just without skins, etc... |
| 20:29.58 | JeffM2501 | p24 one is nice cus it worked well with the main page |
| 20:29.59 | JeffM2501 | http://p24.bakadigital.com/ |
| 20:30.07 | JeffM2501 | and hads random text |
| 20:30.10 | CBG | yeah. cool |
| 20:30.42 | CBG | "Dude, Not PINK" lol |
| 20:30.50 | JeffM2501 | so so very old |
| 20:31.14 | JeffM2501 | maybe when I'm 50 I'll actualy finish something |
| 20:31.30 | CBG | No... No webmaster will ever finish anything. |
| 20:31.38 | JeffM2501 | I don't mean in HTML |
| 20:31.41 | JeffM2501 | thos pages are done |
| 20:32.15 | CBG | There are always new versions of HTML, CSS, PHP, etc coming out, so we always try to update our pages... Gah. |
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| 20:32.41 | CBG | Hi b;ast. |
| 20:32.54 | Ice_Wewe | no success yet |
| 20:32.58 | JeffM2501 | as long as they look the way you want them who cares about the backend |
| 20:33.10 | CBG | Me... |
| 20:33.18 | CBG | It can always look better. |
| 20:33.45 | CBG | There will always be some 5 year old l33t4 making somehting that looks beter... |
| 20:33.58 | JeffM2501 | so |
| 20:34.03 | CBG | so. |
| 20:34.25 | JeffM2501 | I don't feel I allways have to be the absolute best at what I do |
| 20:34.34 | JeffM2501 | the site looks clean engouh and has the data I want on it |
| 20:34.35 | JeffM2501 | it works |
| 20:34.42 | CBG | I'm a perfectionist... Which ammounts to the same thing. |
| 20:35.07 | JeffM2501 | the only absolute in the universe is that there are no absolutes. |
| 20:35.25 | CBG | Which is an oxymoronic contradiction...? |
| 20:35.38 | JeffM2501 | it's a paradox |
| 20:35.44 | JeffM2501 | the universe is paradoical in nature |
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| 20:35.46 | CBG | Oh... :) |
| 20:35.53 | Ice_Wewe | oxymoron |
| 20:36.09 | CBG | Google: No definitions were found for paradoical. |
| 20:36.15 | JeffM2501 | it's just like saying "this sentance is false" |
| 20:36.26 | CBG | Yeah. :) |
| 20:36.38 | CBG | But there is still no definitions of paradoical :( |
| 20:36.47 | JeffM2501 | guu dict paradox |
| 20:36.48 | guu | JeffM2501: wn, foldoc, gazetteer, gcide, and moby-thes responded: gazetteer: Paradox, NY Zip code(s): 12858; wn: paradox n : (logic) a self-contradiction; "`I always lie' is a paradox because if it is true it must be false"; foldoc: paradox <logic> An apparently sound argument leading to a {contradiction}. Some famous examples are {Russell's paradox} and the {liar paradox}. Most (6 more messages) |
| 20:37.05 | CBG | Paradox: A statement or proposition which seems self-contradictory, absurd or at variance with common sense, though, on investigation or when explained, it may prove to be well-founded. |
| 20:37.08 | Ice_Wewe | m-w.com |
| 20:37.15 | CBG | guu dict paradoical |
| 20:37.16 | guu | CBG: No definition for 'paradoical' could be found. |
| 20:37.29 | JeffM2501 | so I spelled it wrong |
| 20:37.33 | JeffM2501 | you'll live |
| 20:37.38 | Ice_Wewe | !m-w.com! |
| 20:37.39 | guu | Ice_Wewe: I'm sorry, that makes NO FREAKING SENSE to me what so ever. |
| 20:37.42 | CBG | HWats the correct spelling? |
| 20:37.48 | JeffM2501 | dono |
| 20:38.00 | Ice_Wewe | m-w.com stands for marion-webster dictionary |
| 20:38.03 | JeffM2501 | I knew it I'd have not mispelled it |
| 20:38.06 | Ice_Wewe | try m-w.com |
| 20:38.14 | JeffM2501 | Ice_Wewe, I know about the dictonay |
| 20:38.30 | CBG | I don't. No... I mean I didnt... :/ |
| 20:38.40 | Ice_Wewe | ok |
| 20:44.17 | Thumper_ | guu dict Paradoxical |
| 20:44.19 | guu | Thumper_: wn, gcide, and moby-thes responded: wn: paradoxical adj : seemingly contradictory but nonetheless possibly true; "it is paradoxical that standing is more tiring than walking" [syn: {self-contradictory}]; gcide: Paradoxical \Par`a*dox"ic*al\ (p[a^]r`[.a]*d[o^]ks"[i^]*kal), a. 1. Of the nature of a paradox. [1913 Webster] 2. Inclined to paradoxes, or to tenets or notions contrary to (3 more messages) |
| 20:45.14 | CBG | Yay! |
| 20:45.18 | CBG | Thanks Thumper! |
| 20:45.23 | Thumper_ | wlcm |
| 20:46.08 | CBG | ~x ?? en wlcm |
| 20:46.16 | CBG | :P.j/king |
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| 20:50.57 | CBG | Hi c3po :D |
| 20:51.06 | tupone_laptop | hehe |
| 20:51.26 | BearPerson | hmm. http://bzflag.org/wiki/Download <<nice how the CVS instructions are right there with the 1.10.8 announcement :) |
| 20:51.59 | CBG | guu dict CVS |
| 20:52.01 | guu | CBG: foldoc and vera responded: vera: CVS Computer Vision Syndrome; vera: CVS Concurrent Versions System (Unix); foldoc: CVS A {code management} system based on {RCS} |
| 20:52.35 | CBG | Err.. thanks... :S |
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| 22:00.28 | CBG | Great News. NTL are upping our connection from 750K to 2Mb (downstream) and from 128k to 200k up :D |
| 22:01.03 | Tupone | so you can spam more :) |
| 22:01.08 | DTRemenak | hahah |
| 22:01.30 | Tupone | DTRemenak: thanks for the uppercase things :) |
| 22:01.50 | CBG | Eugh. I hate spam. |
| 22:02.00 | DTRemenak | oh, no problem. I was very frustrated to find that comment right next to the bug after searching for the problem for half an hour though :( |
| 22:02.17 | learner | heh |
| 22:02.18 | Tupone | lol, I haven't read at all |
| 22:02.30 | DTRemenak | apparently BSD's bc is a bit different than GNU's |
| 22:02.48 | DTRemenak | where "bit" is several orders of magnitude :) |
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| 22:11.16 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: 03atupone * 10bzflag/ (include/cURLManager.h src/common/cURLManager.cxx): More diagnostic from curl, in case of error |
| 22:11.27 | Tupone | I added some diagnostic to cURL. Hope it works |
| 22:11.51 | Tupone | see tomorrow :) |
| 22:18.04 | menotume | JeffM2501: pingo |
| 22:18.35 | menotume | or any1 else .... Can global login be used at private servers ? |
| 22:18.44 | trepan | no |
| 22:18.54 | menotume | bummer |
| 22:18.55 | menotume | ok, thx |
| 22:19.53 | menotume | is there a sepcific reason, or it was just implementated that way ? |
| 22:21.51 | CBG | *or even aSk... and maybe afRAId... |
| 22:23.12 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r8236 10bzedit/scripts/BZFlag/Group.py: some work towards getting groups to behave, but still a long way to go |
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| 22:24.05 | trepan | purple_cow: 'cuz they suck ;) |
| 22:24.18 | purple_cow | trepan: yep |
| 22:26.21 | purple_cow | i'm not sure it's going to be possible to do a deep instance-copy of an entire hierarchy =/ |
| 22:30.19 | purple_cow | i don't suppose someone would be willing to make me some flat copies of louman's maps? |
| 22:31.01 | trepan | just set _saveFlatFile and save 'em |
| 22:31.06 | trepan | oops, sans _ |
| 22:32.01 | trepan | also, here's the note from BUGS |
| 22:32.02 | trepan | - Material properties for mesh containers are not adjusted by |
| 22:32.03 | trepan | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:37.23 | purple_cow | huh |
| 22:37.28 | purple_cow | i don't have permission to set it? :P |
| 22:38.11 | trepan | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:38.13 | DTRemenak | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:38.19 | DTRemenak | nooh, trepan types fast |
| 22:38.25 | DTRemenak | ~n |
| 22:38.26 | ibot | i heard n is the disease bzflag players get when they play too much |
| 22:38.49 | trepan | fast, for a gimp ;) |
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| 22:47.10 | menotume | nhuh ? |
| 22:47.47 | purple_cow | ah, localset |
| 22:47.50 | purple_cow | how things have changed... |
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| 23:01.24 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r8237 10bzedit/scripts/ (8 files in 2 dirs): give things default names ('Box', etc), add a debug flag that doesn't catch exceptions so we get a full backtrace, don't meshify materials |
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| 23:02.15 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r8238 10bzedit/tests/island_hopping.bzw: shift only takes 3 parameters |
| 23:02.31 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r8239 10bzedit/tests/camelot-flat.bzw: add a flat version of camelot, for testing purposes |
| 23:03.54 | JeffM2501 | menotume, global login is tied to the list server, private servers never talk to the list server. |
| 23:04.13 | JeffM2501 | menotume, it can be done with some changes to the server and client. |
| 23:04.29 | menotume | ahhh, thx JeffM2501 |
| 23:04.49 | menotume | just wondered if there was a specific problem (security or whatever) |
| 23:05.04 | JeffM2501 | it's not a "problem" just wasn't taken that far |
| 23:05.27 | JeffM2501 | I belive the man had plans to take it that far, just hasn't goten there yet |
| 23:05.45 | menotume | okies, good - THX |
| 23:05.56 | JeffM2501 | sure |
| 23:06.01 | JeffM2501 | sorry it took so long |
| 23:06.15 | JeffM2501 | was telling the pres that we can't upgrade his mac to OS 10.4 |
| 23:06.19 | menotume | np - been busy here anyway |
| 23:06.27 | menotume | :) |
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| 23:36.06 | purple_cow | oof |
| 23:36.35 | purple_cow | why does saveFlatFile give me texcoords with *3* floats? |
| 23:38.28 | DTRemenak | purple_cow, update to latest cvs :) |
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