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| 00:01.07 | elwin | I was wondering if someone could answer a question about physics drivers....? |
| 00:02.48 | wegstar_away | yes? |
| 00:03.08 | elwin | hallooo? |
| 00:03.09 | elwin | ennybuddy 'ome? |
| 00:03.19 | wegstar | here |
| 00:03.31 | elwin | would you happen to know anything about physics drivers? |
| 00:04.10 | wegstar | yes, a little |
| 00:04.11 | wegstar | why? |
| 00:04.50 | elwin | i am trying to figure out how the angular part works |
| 00:05.02 | elwin | does it only make the tank spin around its own axis? |
| 00:05.58 | trepan | from bzw.5: angular 0.0 0.0 0.0 # rotation freq, x/y coordinates |
| 00:06.04 | trepan | note the x/y coords part |
| 00:06.21 | elwin | so that is supposed to be the axis of the spin? |
| 00:06.45 | wegstar | ... |
| 00:06.59 | elwin | every time I have messed with the angular, it ends up flinging the tank into one of the corners |
| 00:07.29 | wegstar | I'm not to familiar with this... :( |
| 00:07.36 | wegstar | You'll have to wait here some time to get a response |
| 00:08.18 | elwin | what I am after, if it is possible, is to have the tank move in an arc, like it was on the edge of a record turntable |
| 00:08.21 | elwin | everybody is in p2p? |
| 00:13.47 | JeffM2501 | p2p? |
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| 00:15.57 | wegstar | heh |
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| 03:13.39 | Sgeo | irc://irc.metawire.org/mwsupport |
| 03:13.43 | Sgeo | Sorry |
| 03:13.56 | Sgeo | Wrong window |
| 03:24.33 | wegstar | heh... I was just on a server 'knightmare.kicks-ass.net' and there was a bzadmin nicknamed 'Pat Labor Sucks Ass!' |
| 03:25.04 | wegstar | old grudges I see... ;) |
| 03:38.47 | jpa | morning |
| 03:46.46 | wegstar | morning jpa |
| 03:47.53 | jpa | morning weggie |
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| 04:36.31 | wegstar | nite all |
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| 06:01.59 | learner | I'd hopped on to test something |
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| 06:37.27 | learner | yum yum |
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| 06:37.37 | ruskie | good morrow all |
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| 06:45.26 | ruskie | hiya _Manu_ |
| 06:45.32 | _Manu_ | hi! |
| 06:45.48 | _Manu_ | good morning :) |
| 06:45.54 | learner | morning :) |
| 06:46.06 | _Manu_ | learner, nite to you :) |
| 06:54.12 | learner | nite and night |
| 06:54.26 | _Manu_ | :) |
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| 07:31.13 | ruskie | running map HouseWarfare |
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| 10:22.38 | ruskie | ~bzfquery dtdm.org:5154 |
| 10:56.07 | jpa__ | morning |
| 11:00.28 | ruskie | lo jpa__ |
| 11:18.27 | ruskie | hmmm what would be a proper classification of bzflag??? first person shooter? 3d arcade game? strategy game? |
| 11:19.25 | jpa- | hmm.. fts (first tank shooter) ?:) |
| 11:19.51 | ruskie | :)) |
| 11:20.15 | ruskie | I'm just wondering since I'm reorganizing our games grimoire and want to put it into the proper place... |
| 11:20.20 | ruskie | kinda doesn't feel like a fps |
| 11:20.44 | jpa- | it deserves its own category :) |
| 11:20.49 | ruskie | :) |
| 11:21.01 | ruskie | it sure does.... best-all-time-game |
| 11:21.29 | jpa- | few years from now and we'll have microsoft bzflag :) |
| 11:21.41 | ruskie | O.o |
| 11:21.48 | ruskie | ~bzfquery dtdm.org:5154 |
| 11:21.54 | ruskie | :( |
| 11:22.02 | jpa- | it is sad they would have to rewrite it.. gpl is evil :( |
| 11:22.19 | ruskie | lol |
| 11:23.26 | ruskie | 270 games to reogranize... good thing 80% are already in proper sections so all that's needed is just to rename the sections... |
| 11:26.21 | ruskie | hmmm looking for a bzfs rotation script any examples anywhere? |
| 11:52.47 | ruskie | is there any documentation on how to make map rotation with bzfs?? or can someone send me smoe example script |
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| 13:08.25 | ruskie | #!/bin/bash ; while true ; do ; for config in bzfsconfigs/* ; do bzfs -conf $config ; done echo "Switching map" ; done <-- something like this should work for a rotation bzfs server eh? |
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| 13:22.51 | trepan | ruskie: i'd put the '-g' and '-time' options into the script, instead of each config |
| 13:23.02 | ruskie | erm? |
| 13:23.16 | ruskie | what they do? |
| 13:23.39 | ruskie | I don't plan on having equal exposore of all the maps |
| 13:23.50 | ruskie | will depend on how popular a map is to be in rotation for longer than 30 min |
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| 13:25.00 | ruskie | only config files |
| 13:25.02 | ruskie | :) |
| 13:25.12 | ruskie | won't need to change much just a time option |
| 13:25.46 | ruskie | though would be nice if I could make it auto set the time based on votes and then just php to modify the time... |
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| 14:52.12 | TheRedBaron | Chestal: where did ducati dissappear to? |
| 15:01.26 | Chestal | TheRedBaron: hm, disappear? It's not on the list? |
| 15:02.22 | BearPerson | ~d |
| 15:02.54 | TheRedBaron | chestal, yesterday it was down. I couldn't connect to it... |
| 15:10.14 | Chestal | hmm, I did nothing |
| 15:11.15 | TheRedBaron | odd... |
| 15:11.40 | TheRedBaron | i'll try again in about an hr.. |
| 15:11.47 | TheRedBaron | (lunch break then) |
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| 15:45.22 | ruskie | hmmm can bzfs use both -reportfile and -reportpipe??? |
| 15:45.37 | ruskie | i.e. to have reports sent via email and have it stored in a file on the server? |
| 15:46.09 | JeffM2501 | try and see :) |
| 15:46.29 | ruskie | is it so hard to say yes or no |
| 15:50.08 | JeffM2501 | dono |
| 15:50.10 | JeffM2501 | so try |
| 15:50.11 | JeffM2501 | and see |
| 15:50.12 | ruskie | ahhh |
| 15:50.59 | jpa- | Jeff doesn't know everything |
| 15:51.13 | jpa- | or actually, he does, but he just doesn't remember |
| 15:51.58 | JeffM2501 | I didn't write that feature |
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| 15:58.47 | BearPerson | ruskie, tried piping through tee? |
| 15:58.53 | ruskie | not yet... |
| 15:59.02 | ruskie | first need to get a mail command on... |
| 16:00.21 | ruskie | but first time to engage 2 more maps into rotation... |
| 16:04.51 | jpa- | in my script, i have defined function startServer, that takes argument pointing to directory containing map.bzw and config.conf |
| 16:05.07 | jpa- | the function also contains things like -publicaddr, -port, -g and -time |
| 16:06.10 | jpa- | then i have while true ; do startServer dir1 ; startServer dir2 ; startServer dir3 ; done |
| 16:06.57 | jpa- | http://www.kapsi.fi/~jpa/stuff/other/bzfs.sh |
| 16:07.05 | jpa- | hm |
| 16:08.02 | jpa- | now it works |
| 16:12.35 | ruskie | hmmm ok how can I have map rotation without rotating when last player leaves.. |
| 16:12.43 | ruskie | basicaly rotation all the time even when no players around |
| 16:13.37 | jpa- | humm.. not easy |
| 16:13.37 | jpa- | i'm not sure if it is easily modifyable in the source |
| 16:13.51 | jpa- | but, you could have it start the same one again if the time has not gone yet, or kill the server after specific time |
| 16:14.07 | jpa- | like bzfs & sleep 7200 ; kill $! |
| 16:14.21 | BearPerson | ruskie, easy |
| 16:14.26 | BearPerson | let me whip you up a script |
| 16:14.58 | ruskie | <-- already has a rotation script going which is more or less completly generic... |
| 16:15.02 | jpa- | BearPerson seems eager to code scripts for people :) |
| 16:15.20 | BearPerson | I'm a bash scripts developer |
| 16:15.25 | ruskie | well he is the admin/will be as soon as I get globaly registered groups on it :) |
| 16:15.43 | BearPerson | being on the team of smgl's sorcery scripting team gives you some bash scripting experience :) |
| 16:15.52 | ruskie | yeah some :)) |
| 16:16.05 | jpa- | bash is ugly |
| 16:16.13 | BearPerson | to some :) |
| 16:16.21 | jpa- | useful but ugly, if one needs more complicated structures |
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| 16:17.34 | BearPerson | ROTTIME=$(( $(date +%s) + 7200 )) ; while [ $(date +%s) -lt $ROTTIME ] ;do bzfs -g -time $(( $ROTTIME - $(date +%s) )) ;done |
| 16:17.38 | ruskie | http://www.pastebin.com/279139 <-- there we go this is my current script |
| 16:17.40 | BearPerson | should work :) |
| 16:18.25 | jpa- | ugly! |
| 16:18.30 | ruskie | :)) |
| 16:18.31 | jpa- | ibot: bash is ugly |
| 16:18.32 | ibot | ...but bash is already something else... |
| 16:18.37 | jpa- | ibot: bash is also ugly |
| 16:18.39 | ibot | jpa-: okay |
| 16:18.39 | ruskie | bash? |
| 16:18.46 | ruskie | ibot, what is bash |
| 16:18.47 | ibot | sh-compatible command language interpreter. URL: http://www.gnu.org/software/bash/, or ugly |
| 16:18.51 | ruskie | lol |
| 16:20.20 | BearPerson | ruskie, http://www.pastebin.com/279141 |
| 16:21.19 | ruskie | doesn't that simply restarts the map??? |
| 16:21.31 | ruskie | hmmm |
| 16:21.43 | ruskie | well since all users would leave it would prolly be ok... |
| 16:21.45 | BearPerson | it restarts the map until the time is over |
| 16:21.54 | ruskie | yeah but one problem |
| 16:21.57 | BearPerson | since the server terminates when nobody's left |
| 16:22.03 | ruskie | each map has it's own time :) |
| 16:22.11 | BearPerson | defined in? |
| 16:22.17 | ruskie | in the map file |
| 16:22.42 | BearPerson | do you have to define it there? I do dynamic time depending on how much is left |
| 16:23.27 | ruskie | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:23.35 | ruskie | basicaly -g and -time somelenghtoftime |
| 16:23.47 | BearPerson | yeah |
| 16:24.08 | ruskie | since length of map play will depend on weekly vote counts :) |
| 16:24.09 | BearPerson | but that would start with that time everytime no matter if it was just restarted 5 minutes before the map ends |
| 16:24.25 | BearPerson | well, I can make my script parse map time out of anything :) |
| 16:24.37 | ruskie | naahhh |
| 16:24.41 | ruskie | I'll stikc with this |
| 16:24.53 | ruskie | might get me more info as well on how popular a map is... |
| 16:25.28 | jpa- | i would make it bzfquery the server to get average player counts, and set the time from that info |
| 16:25.51 | BearPerson | yeah, or make the server log player counts every once in so much |
| 16:26.21 | jpa- | yup.. maybe seperate rrd for every map |
| 16:26.38 | jpa- | then it would be easy to get average |
| 16:26.58 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03trepan * 10bzflag/src/bzfs/bzfs.cxx: holdoff the signal traps (collision tree + compression can take a while) |
| 16:28.11 | jpa- | modifying the server source should be easy |
| 16:28.49 | ruskie | I wonder why there isn't a -exit-on-time-expired-only |
| 16:29.04 | jpa- | just comment from line 2363 ( if (clOptions->oneGameOnly) { ) to end of the if-block in bzfs.cxx |
| 16:30.15 | BearPerson | hmm |
| 16:30.45 | BearPerson | I wonder though if there may be a reason the server does things differently when the last player left |
| 16:31.20 | ruskie | jpa-, refering to this: |
| 16:31.21 | ruskie | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:31.21 | ruskie | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:31.21 | ruskie | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:31.21 | ruskie | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:31.31 | jpa- | ruskie: yes |
| 16:31.50 | BearPerson | you'll have to take out the else below too |
| 16:31.56 | ruskie | in cvs it's on a different spot |
| 16:32.18 | BearPerson | 2348ish |
| 16:32.20 | jpa- | oh, true |
| 16:32.21 | ruskie | yup |
| 16:32.33 | jpa- | other than that, you could just change the exitCode |
| 16:33.11 | jpa- | the timeout condition is lower in the code - search for oneGameOnly |
| 16:33.45 | BearPerson | I know... ruskie's spot is the no-players thing though |
| 16:33.57 | BearPerson | dev crossfire ;-) |
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| 16:39.41 | ruskie | now to try the modifications |
| 16:41.30 | CBG | ibot, bash is another word for a 'do' |
| 16:41.31 | ibot | ...but bash is already something else... |
| 16:41.46 | CBG | bash is also another word for a 'do' |
| 16:42.03 | CBG | ibot, bash is also another word for a 'do' |
| 16:42.04 | ibot | okay, CBG |
| 16:42.27 | CBG | a do is an event like a party, ibot |
| 16:42.45 | CBG | ibot, a do is an event like a party |
| 16:42.46 | ibot | ...but do is already something else... |
| 16:43.04 | CBG | ibot, a do is also an event like a party |
| 16:43.05 | ibot | okay, CBG |
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| 16:45.07 | BearPerson | ibot, what is a do? |
| 16:45.10 | ibot | BearPerson: what are you talking about? |
| 16:46.19 | ruskie | ibot, what is a do? |
| 16:46.21 | ibot | ruskie: I think you lost me on that one |
| 16:46.25 | trepan | ~do |
| 16:46.26 | ibot | ACTION doesn't do $1, or an event like a party |
| 16:46.30 | JeffM2501 | ibot a do? |
| 16:47.11 | JeffM2501 | multi word things don't work well |
| 16:47.25 | BearPerson | ~do go moo |
| 16:47.27 | ibot | ACTION does go moo. |
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| 17:41.08 | ruskie | ~bzfquery dtdm.org:5154 |
| 17:54.17 | ToughShooter | ~x de en Mantisse |
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| 18:03.13 | uso_w | ~dict mal |
| 18:03.13 | uso_w | what does MAL mean (topic)? |
| 18:03.13 | JeffM2501 | Munchkin Alert Level |
| 18:03.13 | jpa- | it is a counter, Mal Asking Losers |
| 18:03.13 | *** topic/#bzflag by jpa- -> http://BZFlag.org/ || http://my.BZFlag.org/bb/ || http://my.BZFlag.org/ || http://cia.navi.cx/stats/project/BZFlag || http://BZFlag.org/wiki/GettingHelp || http://BZFlag.org/wiki/Download || http://bzflag.org/wiki/MapMaking || MAL=5 |
| 18:03.13 | JeffM2501 | jpa if it was 5 then we'd have to kick you |
| 18:03.13 | *** topic/#bzflag by JeffM2501 -> http://BZFlag.org/ || http://my.BZFlag.org/bb/ || http://my.BZFlag.org/ || http://cia.navi.cx/stats/project/BZFlag || http://BZFlag.org/wiki/GettingHelp || http://BZFlag.org/wiki/Download || http://bzflag.org/wiki/MapMaking || MAL=2 |
| 18:03.13 | jpa- | hmm.. why? |
| 18:03.13 | JeffM2501 | that means total war on munchkins |
| 18:03.13 | JeffM2501 | active asslut |
| 18:03.13 | JeffM2501 | condition teal |
| 18:03.14 | jpa- | are you sure? |
| 18:03.14 | JeffM2501 | yes |
| 18:03.14 | JeffM2501 | I invented the MAL |
| 18:03.14 | jpa- | wow! |
| 18:03.14 | JeffM2501 | heh |
| 18:03.15 | JeffM2501 | answer this |
| 18:03.15 | JeffM2501 | chaingun, shotgun, or rocket launcher? |
| 18:03.15 | jpa- | coilgun. |
| 18:03.15 | JeffM2501 | you fail |
| 18:03.15 | jpa- | :/ |
| 18:03.15 | JeffM2501 | well techincaly you fall into the "loony" category, or "extreem munchkin" |
| 18:03.15 | JeffM2501 | why coilgun? |
| 18:04.19 | jpa- | i thought you wanted me to select weapon you'll shoot me with |
| 18:04.32 | jpa- | and coilgun wouldn't hurt so much |
| 18:04.52 | JeffM2501 | no it was for you to use |
| 18:04.58 | JeffM2501 | given your druthers |
| 18:05.20 | jpa- | ~dict druthers |
| 18:05.41 | jpa- | do i have druthers? |
| 18:05.52 | JeffM2501 | all free willed humans do |
| 18:06.39 | *** join/#bzflag TimRiker (~timr@TimRiker.active.supporter.pdpc) |
| 18:06.40 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o TimRiker] by ChanServ |
| 18:06.50 | JeffM2501 | jpa-, so what would it be? |
| 18:07.12 | JeffM2501 | one of those 3 has to hold some intrest for you |
| 18:07.18 | ruskie | :) |
| 18:07.25 | jpa- | decisions are difficult, i prefer not to decide |
| 18:07.52 | jpa- | you shall think 3 paraller universes and see which choice leads to best result |
| 18:08.11 | ruskie | smart idea |
| 18:08.55 | jpa- | while giving guns to jpa leads to having teammates shot... |
| 18:09.14 | DTRemenak | jpa-: you're dodging the question |
| 18:09.46 | jpa- | DTRemenak: you're very observant :) |
| 18:10.02 | DTRemenak | jpa-: just thought I'd point it out in case you were doing it subconciously |
| 18:10.39 | ruskie | :) |
| 18:10.52 | jpa- | my subconciousness doesn't extend to foreign languages |
| 18:10.59 | Noodle-sensei | JeffM2501: i'd choose a rocket launcher and hunt chipmunks with it |
| 18:11.24 | Noodle-sensei | what category does that put me in? |
| 18:12.49 | JeffM2501 | "real man" |
| 18:12.52 | JeffM2501 | or "looney" |
| 18:13.13 | ruskie | where would that put me... |
| 18:13.26 | jpa- | bzflag addicts |
| 18:13.27 | JeffM2501 | invalid |
| 18:13.32 | DTRemenak | jpa-: funny. I dream in foreign languages sometimes, you don't? |
| 18:13.43 | Noodle-sensei | i think "looney" fits me most |
| 18:13.43 | JeffM2501 | I have subtitles on ocasion |
| 18:14.05 | jpa- | DTRemenak: no.. except if dreaming that i was under gpl and coded in C counts as foreign languages |
| 18:14.05 | Noodle-sensei | i've never dreamt in subtitles, but i bet my sister has :-) |
| 18:14.13 | *** join/#bzflag blast007 (~blast007@198.150.76.4) |
| 18:14.46 | DTRemenak | JeffM2501: that just means you're what people here call a "media whore" ;) |
| 18:15.02 | ToughShooter | ~x de en Sprichwort |
| 18:15.38 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 18:16.01 | ToughShooter | ~x de en Redewendung |
| 18:16.02 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 18:16.35 | purple_cow | jpa-: it's just weird |
| 18:16.40 | DTRemenak | heh |
| 18:17.40 | ToughShooter | In Germany we have a nice idiom saying we shoot with cannons to sparrows |
| 18:18.05 | DTRemenak | heh |
| 18:18.24 | ToughShooter | In my dictionary it's translated with "He breaks a fly on the wheel." :/ |
| 18:18.58 | DTRemenak | hm, your dictionary does idiomatic translations |
| 18:19.44 | ToughShooter | I just wonder about this strange thing that should be the same |
| 18:20.06 | DTRemenak | well, it's an idiomatic expression...for overkill, not for literally shooting sparrows with cannons |
| 18:20.16 | DTRemenak | so they translate to the nearest english idiomatic expression |
| 18:21.31 | DTRemenak | which I've actually only heard used once, and that by a british guy. |
| 18:21.31 | DTRemenak | it's a close meaning though...to break a fly on the wheel is indeed overkill |
| 18:21.31 | DTRemenak | "the wheel" is a mideval torture device |
| 18:21.31 | jpa- | german people are strange.. sparrows are cute, why would one shoot them? |
| 18:21.31 | ToughShooter | Perhaps this is why non-germans are required to have an english lecture at my university |
| 18:22.05 | ToughShooter | They wouldn't understand much idioms used by us otherwise |
| 18:22.23 | DTRemenak | you "break" people on it, as to break down their resolve, to get them to talk, or confess, or whatever. used a lot in the Inquisition |
| 18:22.53 | DTRemenak | to break a fly on the wheel would naturally be huge overkill :) |
| 18:23.06 | DTRemenak | kinda like, i dunno, shooting cannon at sparrows :) |
| 18:23.07 | ToughShooter | ~x en de mideval |
| 18:23.13 | jpa- | and a bit difficult in practise.. |
| 18:23.20 | ToughShooter | ~dict mideval |
| 18:23.28 | ToughShooter | nhmm |
| 18:23.29 | jpa- | mideval == year 400 - 1500 or so |
| 18:23.39 | DTRemenak | hmph, it doesn't like archaic spellings |
| 18:23.50 | prop | medieval, perhaps? |
| 18:24.04 | DTRemenak | yeah, that's the modern spelling. I was just about to look it up. |
| 18:24.31 | ToughShooter | err, it is with cannons at sparrows |
| 18:24.46 | jpa- | prop: bah, close enough :) |
| 18:24.51 | prop | heh :) |
| 18:25.04 | JeffM2501 | so jpa- still never picked on did he? |
| 18:25.06 | ToughShooter | These bullets that came out of cannons |
| 18:25.12 | jpa- | JeffM2501: i did |
| 18:25.19 | JeffM2501 | what one? |
| 18:25.21 | ToughShooter | on and at are pretty much the same in german |
| 18:25.32 | jpa- | JeffM2501: but i won't tell it to you, so you can't prepare to defense yourself |
| 18:25.40 | JeffM2501 | huh? |
| 18:26.25 | jpa- | ok, the chaingun one |
| 18:26.32 | jpa- | as i didn't know what it is :P |
| 18:26.56 | DTRemenak | ~dict chaingun |
| 18:27.03 | DTRemenak | heh, darn |
| 18:27.17 | JeffM2501 | gattling gun |
| 18:27.20 | JeffM2501 | round |
| 18:27.23 | JeffM2501 | many barrels |
| 18:27.42 | JeffM2501 | high rate of fire |
| 18:27.42 | jpa- | umm.. ratatatatatatatata? |
| 18:27.43 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 18:27.46 | JeffM2501 | but it spins |
| 18:27.47 | jpa- | :) |
| 18:27.54 | JeffM2501 | so yeah your still a munchkin |
| 18:28.09 | Noodle-sensei | i would like hunting chipmunks with any of those weapons :-) |
| 18:28.13 | jpa- | munchins taste good :) |
| 18:28.27 | DTRemenak | ~dict gatling gun |
| 18:28.55 | JeffM2501 | modern terms call it a "minigun" as well |
| 18:29.02 | DTRemenak | ~dict minigun |
| 18:29.24 | ruskie | I prefer a slow gauss gattling gun... |
| 18:29.25 | JeffM2501 | google search shows some images |
| 18:29.25 | jpa- | it is good as long as it goes ratatata |
| 18:30.04 | JeffM2501 | yeah that's the munchkin mentality |
| 18:30.04 | JeffM2501 | flashy over usefullness |
| 18:30.04 | JeffM2501 | overkill |
| 18:30.26 | JeffM2501 | DTRemenak, chaingun, shotgun, or rocketlauncher ? |
| 18:31.30 | jpa- | prop: you must pick too |
| 18:31.52 | prop | pick what? |
| 18:39.25 | *** join/#bzflag _Manu_ (~jujibo@98.Red-80-36-59.pooles.rima-tde.net) |
| 18:39.25 | jpa- | one of those |
| 18:39.25 | cosmos | "if you dont put babel map back you can kiss your butt and your server goodbye" |
| 18:39.25 | jpa- | "DTRemenak, chaingun, shotgun, or rocketlauncher" |
| 18:39.25 | prop | my choice would be shotgun :) |
| 18:39.25 | jpa- | um, DTRemenak isn't one of the choices :P |
| 18:39.25 | prop | :) |
| 18:39.25 | jpa- | JeffM2501: classify :) |
| 18:39.25 | JeffM2501 | ? |
| 18:39.25 | jpa- | shotgun |
| 18:39.25 | Noodle-sensei | geez, nobody thinks rocket launchers are fun these days |
| 18:39.25 | JeffM2501 | he passes with a B |
| 18:39.25 | jpa- | i failed :/ |
| 18:39.25 | JeffM2501 | you did |
| 18:39.26 | JeffM2501 | horibly |
| 18:39.26 | Noodle-sensei | i think everyone knows i am fond of extreme overkill |
| 18:39.26 | JeffM2501 | that you are |
| 18:39.26 | ruskie | lol |
| 18:39.26 | ruskie | so Noodle-sensei if you got a sw that can kill whole map you'd be very happ eh? |
| 18:39.26 | Noodle-sensei | DIE SQUIRREL! |
| 18:39.26 | Noodle-sensei | *BOOF* |
| 18:39.28 | Noodle-sensei | ruskie: no, that would get boring fast |
| 18:39.28 | *** join/#bzflag kkkk (~50db3eb9@webchat.bzflag.bz) |
| 18:39.28 | Noodle-sensei | but i did run a 100 shot server with a blank map for a short while |
| 18:39.28 | jpa- | was it yours? |
| 18:39.28 | Noodle-sensei | it was more popular that i would have guessed :-) |
| 18:39.28 | Noodle-sensei | yes, it was mine |
| 18:39.28 | jpa- | i thought someone had gone crazy |
| 18:39.28 | JeffM2501 | there are many munchkins in the world |
| 18:39.28 | kkkk | hi there, I have a question :-) where does the default listserver setting live? |
| 18:39.28 | JeffM2501 | in the config |
| 18:39.28 | Noodle-sensei | others may have imitated it after me |
| 18:39.30 | jpa- | JeffM2501: what is a munchin anyway? |
| 18:39.30 | kkkk | thnks jeff. now, where's "the config".... (Linux) |
| 18:39.30 | jpa- | ~/.bzf/ |
| 18:39.31 | JeffM2501 | your home dir in a .bzf dir |
| 18:39.31 | Noodle-sensei | jpa-: j00 r t3h mUnchk1n |
| 18:39.31 | kkkk | looking.... |
| 18:39.31 | jpa- | Noodle-sensei: i always thought they were round, brown thingies that taste good |
| 18:39.31 | Noodle-sensei | you've never seen the wizard of oz? |
| 18:39.33 | Noodle-sensei | man, you ARE a munchkin |
| 18:39.34 | jpa- | like http://www.csdm.qc.ca/cemis/panier/aliments/produits_cerealiers/images/muffin.gif |
| 18:39.35 | jpa- | hmm. "muffin" != "munchkin" is it? |
| 18:39.35 | Noodle-sensei | true :-P |
| 18:39.35 | kkkk | thanks, I found the config (for some reason I was thinking that was just the server part, sorry). However, there is no entry for a listserver. |
| 18:39.35 | kkkk | actually there is a list - it says [set list""] (subtract the []) |
| 18:39.59 | kkkk | I'll try deleting the set list entry, maybe I'll get the default back |
| 18:44.35 | jpa- | try |
| 18:44.36 | ruskie | :) |
| 18:44.36 | kkkk | that worked. Thanks all. |
| 18:44.36 | kkkk | bye |
| 18:44.37 | ToughShooter | jpa-: Is that directed to me? |
| 18:44.37 | jpa- | yup |
| 18:44.37 | ToughShooter | I saw wdk sweared much against me |
| 18:44.37 | ToughShooter | and some others did in public but there never was a "Watch the language please" |
| 18:44.39 | ToughShooter | If swearing is allowed then it's a bit questionable to permit swearing against something special |
| 18:44.39 | ToughShooter | s/permit/prohibit |
| 18:48.30 | ruskie | yay full rotation without player joins and not-shuting down the server after last player leaves is working... |
| 18:49.00 | *** join/#bzflag Grumbler (~Grumbler@grumbler.bronze.supporter.pdpc) |
| 18:49.27 | Grumbler | hello all |
| 18:49.36 | jpa- | hello grumby |
| 18:49.54 | Grumbler | you still up jpa |
| 18:50.14 | Grumbler | you should get some sleep |
| 19:04.27 | ToughShooter | Hi Grumbler |
| 19:04.28 | Grumbler | guten tag, ToughShooter |
| 19:04.28 | Grumbler | anybody swap out a HD lately.......do they come with tools to disk image, or duplicate the old disk onto the new? |
| 19:04.28 | Noodle-sensei | Grumbler: sometimes |
| 19:04.28 | Grumbler | different manufacturers? |
| 19:04.28 | Grumbler | or just different packages |
| 19:04.28 | Grumbler | the details online a little disappointing......most just say "CD with Tools" |
| 19:04.28 | Noodle-sensei | i know maxtor does give you a CD with tools |
| 19:04.28 | Noodle-sensei | i'm sure WD and them do too |
| 19:04.28 | DTRemenak | WD does |
| 19:04.29 | Noodle-sensei | i never use them tho |
| 19:04.29 | DTRemenak | nor do I :) |
| 19:04.29 | Grumbler | so should it be assumed that the tool set includes the image/duplication stuff |
| 19:04.29 | Noodle-sensei | i like my own tools |
| 19:04.31 | Grumbler | ah |
| 19:04.31 | Noodle-sensei | Grumbler: i think that'd be safe |
| 19:04.31 | Grumbler | really dont want to install 30 gig of software again |
| 19:04.31 | Tupone | dd does not work ? |
| 19:04.31 | Noodle-sensei | dang |
| 19:04.31 | DTRemenak | Grumbler: but if you do, you'll end up with only 20 gigs :) |
| 19:04.31 | Noodle-sensei | i could never imagine having that much software |
| 19:04.31 | DTRemenak | amazing what a clean installation of everything will do |
| 19:04.31 | Grumbler | heh, probably |
| 19:04.31 | DTRemenak | Noodle-sensei: with games getting to 4gb+ it's not hard to fill a drive |
| 19:04.31 | Grumbler | unfortuneately, i dont have the sp1 or sp2 disks, so it takes forever |
| 19:04.31 | Noodle-sensei | i'm not a gamer |
| 19:04.31 | DTRemenak | just trying to help you imagine :) |
| 19:04.31 | Noodle-sensei | hehe |
| 19:04.31 | Noodle-sensei | i do like my movies tho :-) |
| 19:04.32 | *** join/#bzflag SportyGal (sportygali@67-21-174-30.stmnca.adelphia.net) |
| 19:04.32 | DTRemenak | hiya SportyGal |
| 19:04.32 | Tupone | Grumbler: you're on linux? |
| 19:04.32 | Noodle-sensei | i can easily fill up a fat drive, just not with software |
| 19:04.32 | Grumbler | Tupone, winxp...work computer |
| 19:04.32 | jpa- | Grumbler: it is only 22:00 |
| 19:04.32 | Tupone | you can create the partitions and then copy with dd, if you have a live linux distro |
| 19:04.32 | Grumbler | thats an option...... |
| 19:04.38 | jpa- | dd is evil |
| 19:04.48 | Tupone | then you can use some tools to enlarge the windows partition |
| 19:04.53 | Tupone | dd is god |
| 19:04.55 | Noodle-sensei | dd is a lifesaver when you have a dead ipod |
| 19:04.57 | jpa- | cp works just as good |
| 19:05.15 | Noodle-sensei | i've saved more than one dead ipod with dd |
| 19:05.16 | jpa- | and no need to expand the partition afterwards |
| 19:05.24 | Grumbler | ok, thanks.....time to look for good prices on the raptors |
| 19:05.49 | Grumbler | Noodle-sensei, you have more than one dead ipod? |
| 19:05.56 | Tupone | cp on unmounted partition? |
| 19:06.03 | Noodle-sensei | no, i've only got one ipod, and it's not dead :-) |
| 19:06.14 | Noodle-sensei | but i've resurrected others' ipods |
| 19:06.21 | jpa- | Tupone: why unmounted? |
| 19:06.21 | DTRemenak | heh, I used PartionMagic to copy my 30g drive onto my 40g drive, took about 3 hours. later that year used dd from 40g to 80g and it took 18 minutes. |
| 19:06.39 | Tupone | so you want to use cp on a NTFS partition |
| 19:06.48 | jpa- | ah, ntfs |
| 19:06.49 | jpa- | evil |
| 19:07.12 | Tupone | I don't know what partition is, better copy without ever knowing what to copy |
| 19:07.15 | jpa- | while captive actually works |
| 19:12.11 | *** join/#bzflag bz4188 (~04815524@webchat.bzflag.bz) |
| 19:13.25 | *** part/#bzflag purple_cow (~jupiter@128.138.74.40) |
| 19:15.17 | *** join/#bzflag purple_cow (~jupiter@128.138.74.40) |
| 19:15.17 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o purple_cow] by ChanServ |
| 19:41.05 | ruskie | hmmm is there some special procedure I need to get a server into the public servers list? |
| 19:42.56 | Tupone | ~wiki |
| 19:43.21 | ruskie | hmmm it's ignoring you it seems |
| 19:43.42 | Tupone | nope, she is pm me :/ |
| 19:44.13 | ruskie | ~bzfquery dtdm.org:5154 |
| 19:44.16 | ruskie | it is alive... |
| 19:44.50 | Tupone | have you tried ./bzfs -public "server description" |
| 19:44.58 | ruskie | yup |
| 19:45.03 | ruskie | hmmm |
| 19:45.22 | Tupone | add a couple of -d |
| 19:45.25 | Tupone | better 3 |
| 19:45.50 | ruskie | with title of "" <-- hmm this doesn't sound good |
| 19:46.46 | ruskie | is the GET shown with two dds? |
| 19:46.57 | Tupone | don't remember :/ |
| 19:47.15 | Tupone | if you don't see it, add a -d |
| 19:47.25 | ruskie | yup gonna try now |
| 19:48.11 | ruskie | ok it executes the GET |
| 19:48.40 | jpa- | gnight people |
| 19:48.47 | ruskie | nyx jpa- |
| 19:49.14 | Tupone | you can get the GET and do via browser |
| 19:49.33 | Tupone | leave the server up |
| 19:50.07 | ruskie | what's the start of the url |
| 19:50.31 | Tupone | you have that in host |
| 19:50.40 | ruskie | ahh |
| 19:50.41 | Tupone | all is in the debug printout |
| 19:51.01 | ruskie | ERROR: Requesting address is 84.20.228.4 while server is at 66.36.231.92 <-- hmmm :)) |
| 19:51.23 | jpa- | you need a -i 66.36.231.92 |
| 19:51.27 | ruskie | ahhh |
| 19:51.38 | Tupone | you are on the same host of the server? |
| 19:51.48 | *** join/#bzflag bz8044 (~04815524@webchat.bzflag.bz) |
| 19:51.58 | ruskie | Tupone, I ssh to the server... |
| 19:52.10 | ruskie | there's a bit of an atlantic ocean in between |
| 19:52.20 | Tupone | hehe, ok, you need to run the browser from ssh then |
| 19:52.30 | Tupone | if you have |
| 19:52.34 | Tupone | like lynx |
| 19:53.14 | *** join/#bzflag Blue_Eyes (~Blue_Eyes@host221-100.pool80116.interbusiness.it) |
| 19:53.16 | ruskie | yup now it worked with the -i |
| 19:53.59 | Tupone | it is in the listserver list ? |
| 19:54.39 | ruskie | yup |
| 19:54.45 | ruskie | \o/ yay \o/ |
| 19:54.53 | ruskie | now where to I go to setup groups... |
| 19:55.23 | Tupone | have you run ./bzfs with -password ? |
| 19:55.47 | ruskie | yup |
| 19:56.05 | Tupone | and -groupdb |
| 19:56.10 | Tupone | and -userdb |
| 19:56.11 | ruskie | nope |
| 19:56.30 | ruskie | do I need LOCAL first? |
| 19:56.46 | Tupone | http://www.bzflag.org/wiki/CreatingAServer |
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| 22:33.01 | JeffM2501 | anyone have options on chaning the bzbb rank system to something like this? |
| 22:33.02 | JeffM2501 | http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?p=35082#35082 |
| 22:34.28 | ruskie | hmmm I like |
| 22:35.21 | JeffM2501 | I'll have to make new images |
| 22:35.28 | JeffM2501 | but it may be time for them to be updated a bit |
| 22:39.34 | aaronf0 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:39.45 | aaronf0 | xorg 6.8.2, linux, gentoo |
| 22:39.53 | aaronf0 | still |
| 22:39.58 | JeffM2501 | sounds like you broke it |
| 22:40.37 | aaronf0 | yea |
| 22:40.49 | aaronf0 | recompiled sdl, and that didnt help... |
| 22:40.58 | aaronf0 | seems like not only me |
| 22:41.12 | aaronf0 | bunches of people on google, but no solutions |
| 22:41.13 | JeffM2501 | what video card? |
| 22:41.32 | JeffM2501 | linux distros that can't change res are a common problem |
| 22:41.40 | JeffM2501 | usualy video driver problems |
| 22:41.44 | aaronf0 | radeon 9200 |
| 22:41.55 | aaronf0 | recompiled that many times |
| 22:42.00 | JeffM2501 | wierd then |
| 22:42.11 | aaronf0 | i think this is my 3-5th visit here? |
| 22:42.23 | ruskie | aaronf0, using dri or atidriver? |
| 22:42.24 | aaronf0 | i guess you havent memorized my configs yet... :-D |
| 22:42.29 | aaronf0 | ati-drivers |
| 22:42.34 | ruskie | try dri |
| 22:42.41 | aaronf0 | how? |
| 22:42.42 | ruskie | works wonderfuly wth my r9250 |
| 22:42.55 | aaronf0 | did before i updated the kernel headers |
| 22:43.11 | ruskie | aaronf0, search that thing you have for a pkg system about dri |
| 22:43.37 | aaronf0 | huh? |
| 22:43.48 | aaronf0 | pkg thing is portage |
| 22:44.17 | JeffM2501 | yeah you may want to re build DRI |
| 22:45.59 | aaronf0 | emerge: there are no ebuilds to satisfy "dri". |
| 22:46.19 | aaronf0 | what else would it be called? |
| 22:47.11 | ruskie | can't you search for dri? |
| 22:47.21 | JeffM2501 | it would be called DRI |
| 22:47.35 | aaronf0 | emerge: there are no ebuilds to satisfy "DRI". |
| 22:47.46 | aaronf0 | odd |
| 22:47.50 | JeffM2501 | sucks to be on gentoo then |
| 22:48.25 | aaronf0 | lol |
| 22:48.29 | aaronf0 | what do you run? |
| 22:48.34 | JeffM2501 | windows |
| 22:48.36 | JeffM2501 | debian |
| 22:48.39 | JeffM2501 | OSX |
| 22:48.48 | aaronf0 | haha, debian |
| 22:48.51 | JeffM2501 | some FC on ocasion |
| 22:48.54 | JeffM2501 | they all work :) |
| 22:49.23 | JeffM2501 | gentoo is for ricers |
| 22:50.07 | aaronf0 | never found out what a ricer is... |
| 22:50.18 | aaronf0 | i keep thinking asian though... |
| 22:50.25 | JeffM2501 | ever see those people tho pimp out some little car like a honda civic? |
| 22:50.34 | aaronf0 | no |
| 22:50.37 | JeffM2501 | where they put like a 4 foot wing on a cellica |
| 22:50.41 | aaronf0 | white neighborhood |
| 22:50.50 | JeffM2501 | yeah usualy white suburb kids |
| 22:50.56 | JeffM2501 | who want to be "in da hood" |
| 22:50.58 | JeffM2501 | it's sad |
| 22:51.01 | aaronf0 | not quite here |
| 22:51.06 | JeffM2501 | perhaps not |
| 22:51.11 | aaronf0 | know what your talking about |
| 22:51.15 | aaronf0 | blast rap? |
| 22:51.18 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 22:52.09 | aaronf0 | its funnier when they blast techno |
| 22:52.16 | aaronf0 | i start laughing my ass off |
| 22:53.05 | aaronf0 | what are some resolutions below 1028x1024? |
| 22:53.27 | JeffM2501 | 640x480 |
| 22:53.30 | JeffM2501 | 800x600 |
| 22:53.35 | JeffM2501 | those are common ones |
| 22:53.40 | aaronf0 | the 1024x7something one |
| 22:53.53 | JeffM2501 | 1024x768 |
| 22:54.13 | uso_w | all 4:3 ;) |
| 22:54.20 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 22:54.26 | JeffM2501 | asuming a CRT |
| 22:54.33 | JeffM2501 | there are "wide" versions of them all |
| 22:55.01 | uso_w | assuming square pixels |
| 22:55.06 | JeffM2501 | don't know if I've ever seen a wide CRT |
| 22:55.12 | JeffM2501 | only seen wide LCDs |
| 22:55.46 | JeffM2501 | like the one I must get |
| 22:56.00 | uso_w | yes, wide CRTs are only used on TVs |
| 22:56.10 | aaronf0 | lol |
| 22:56.15 | aaronf0 | my crt is pretty nice |
| 22:56.15 | JeffM2501 | ? |
| 22:56.17 | aaronf0 | and old |
| 22:56.23 | aaronf0 | and heveay like all hell |
| 22:57.43 | aaronf0 | my pimping 17inch crt |
| 22:57.50 | aaronf0 | on my 6year old computer |
| 22:58.25 | JeffM2501 | 6 |
| 22:58.26 | JeffM2501 | wow |
| 22:58.30 | aaronf0 | heh |
| 22:58.34 | JeffM2501 | that's prety freaking old |
| 22:58.38 | JeffM2501 | what is it? |
| 22:58.39 | aaronf0 | yea |
| 22:58.46 | aaronf0 | i added a 3d gfx card |
| 22:58.50 | JeffM2501 | ewww |
| 22:58.50 | uso_w | 17" and heavy? get a 20 or 22" and you know what heavy is ;) |
| 22:58.52 | JeffM2501 | burn it |
| 22:58.57 | JeffM2501 | 3dfx must die |
| 22:59.17 | JeffM2501 | ohh you said 3d gfx |
| 22:59.17 | aaronf0 | not 3dfx |
| 22:59.17 | aaronf0 | lol |
| 22:59.18 | aaronf0 | its ati |
| 22:59.22 | aaronf0 | as i said before |
| 22:59.22 | JeffM2501 | does it even have AGP? |
| 22:59.25 | aaronf0 | yea |
| 22:59.32 | aaronf0 | hauling ass at agp 2x |
| 22:59.40 | aaronf0 | highest my computer could suppport |
| 22:59.42 | JeffM2501 | what CPU? |
| 22:59.51 | aaronf0 | or i would have gotten a 94 or 9600 |
| 22:59.57 | aaronf0 | hmm, a p2 |
| 23:00.00 | JeffM2501 | ewww |
| 23:00.03 | aaronf0 | @ 450 mghz |
| 23:00.03 | JeffM2501 | why even bother |
| 23:00.17 | JeffM2501 | can't even send data at bus speed to the GPU |
| 23:00.18 | aaronf0 | cause i cant get a new one untill college |
| 23:00.46 | JeffM2501 | $200 get you a semperon and mobo |
| 23:00.59 | aaronf0 | a what? |
| 23:01.06 | JeffM2501 | AMD semperon |
| 23:01.10 | JeffM2501 | like a 2400 |
| 23:01.14 | aaronf0 | i was hoping for a 64 bit amd |
| 23:01.17 | JeffM2501 | with 512megs of ram |
| 23:01.20 | aaronf0 | but then id need more ram |
| 23:01.26 | JeffM2501 | puters are cheap |
| 23:01.27 | aaronf0 | and a real gfx card |
| 23:01.33 | JeffM2501 | 9200 isn't bad |
| 23:01.44 | JeffM2501 | for an ATI |
| 23:01.44 | aaronf0 | and a new cd drive to play games at any decent speed |
| 23:01.47 | JeffM2501 | there are many worse |
| 23:01.56 | aaronf0 | then id need a couple more HDDs |
| 23:01.59 | JeffM2501 | you have games that stream from the CD? |
| 23:02.06 | aaronf0 | diablo 1 |
| 23:02.14 | JeffM2501 | copy it to the disk |
| 23:02.21 | JeffM2501 | and wow that's old |
| 23:02.52 | aaronf0 | cant get it to work in linux |
| 23:03.03 | uso_w | cd speed doesn't matter that much if you have at least an 8x |
| 23:03.19 | JeffM2501 | wow old 20th centry tech |
| 23:03.20 | aaronf0 | lol |
| 23:03.28 | aaronf0 | i might |
| 23:03.34 | aaronf0 | i cant use knoppix |
| 23:03.38 | aaronf0 | its to slow |
| 23:03.46 | aaronf0 | :-D |
| 23:03.48 | aaronf0 | lmao |
| 23:04.57 | aaronf0 | gotta go reboot X and stuff |
| 23:05.05 | aaronf0 | maybe bzflag will work this time... |
| 23:06.52 | uso_w | hehe, keeping gentoo up-to-date on a P2/450 must be a full-time jop :) |
| 23:06.57 | uso_w | *job |
| 23:07.02 | uso_w | for the CPU |
| 23:07.28 | JeffM2501 | one would wonder why he would change it in the first place and screw it all up |
| 23:07.37 | JeffM2501 | since it's going to take years to recomille |
| 23:08.11 | uso_w | yeah |
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| 23:09.36 | aaronf0 | fucking wow |
| 23:09.43 | aaronf0 | that was so damn simple |
| 23:09.57 | JeffM2501 | please watch your language |
| 23:09.59 | aaronf0 | yet its not mentioned anywhere |
| 23:10.02 | aaronf0 | sorry |
| 23:10.09 | JeffM2501 | what did you update? |
| 23:10.09 | aaronf0 | solution |
| 23:10.22 | aaronf0 | just add some extra resolutions to you xorg.conf |
| 23:10.27 | ruskie | ~bzfquery dtdm.org:5154 |
| 23:10.48 | aaronf0 | want me to come on and try it out now taht i can? |
| 23:10.52 | JeffM2501 | the error was saying that it couldn't change to your requested res |
| 23:10.59 | ruskie | aaronf0, sure :) |
| 23:11.03 | aaronf0 | cause it wasnt supported |
| 23:11.03 | JeffM2501 | so that does make some sense |
| 23:11.11 | aaronf0 | ruskie: are you on? |
| 23:11.13 | JeffM2501 | gotta love linux errors |
| 23:11.14 | ruskie | nope |
| 23:11.17 | ruskie | going to bed |
| 23:11.18 | aaronf0 | its more fun with 2 |
| 23:11.23 | aaronf0 | k |
| 23:11.28 | ruskie | just waiting for a few forum replies |
| 23:11.29 | aaronf0 | anyone else want to join? |
| 23:12.14 | DTRemenak | heh, I so read that wrong... "<ruskie> going to bed" "<aaronf0> its more fun with 2" |
| 23:12.26 | ruskie | lol |
| 23:13.28 | Noodle-sensei | haha |
| 23:13.41 | aaronf0 | umm |
| 23:13.43 | aaronf0 | damn |
| 23:13.50 | aaronf0 | take out the OO flags... |
| 23:13.55 | aaronf0 | and th BU flags |
| 23:14.00 | aaronf0 | and i dont really like the map |
| 23:14.00 | ruskie | in which one? |
| 23:14.08 | aaronf0 | dtdm:5154 |
| 23:14.13 | ruskie | it's rotating |
| 23:14.17 | aaronf0 | umm |
| 23:14.18 | ruskie | is it the islands? |
| 23:14.22 | aaronf0 | island hopping |
| 23:14.25 | aaronf0 | yea |
| 23:14.28 | aaronf0 | its a cool map |
| 23:14.33 | aaronf0 | but not good to play |
| 23:14.33 | ruskie | hmmm I thought I removed OO and BU |
| 23:14.42 | aaronf0 | cause the people are always on the wrong island |
| 23:14.46 | aaronf0 | lol |
| 23:14.50 | ruskie | it will rotate :) |
| 23:14.53 | aaronf0 | i know why BU doesnt work though |
| 23:14.58 | ruskie | ohh? |
| 23:15.02 | ruskie | why |
| 23:15.04 | aaronf0 | its on top of a building |
| 23:15.09 | ruskie | ahhh |
| 23:15.09 | aaronf0 | it cant burrow into it |
| 23:15.38 | ruskie | I have -f OO do I need to put something else to get rid of it? |
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