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| 01:09.14 | spldart | well.. that was fun >8-< |
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| 01:41.19 | spldart | Holy crap the debian people were terrible pricks :( |
| 01:42.59 | spldart | I think I'm calling it quits with linux... I'm getting great help from you guys but the BZ community is a way more supportive one. And I can't grab all my support off here since it's off topic. And it's obvious the support in some of the linux channels is very rude :( |
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| 01:45.33 | Mr_Molez | the gentoo ppl are good :) |
| 01:45.54 | spldart | Anyway. Thank you guys alot :) You have taught me alot about linux and I'm sure it will come in handly. |
| 01:46.08 | spldart | hehe... you want me to try gentoo? |
| 01:46.24 | Mr_Molez | i wouldn't recommend installing gentoo no lol |
| 01:46.54 | spldart | I had a power surge (if you can believe the timing) and I had a damaged file system on my old server 98 machine and my new one linux at the same time :eek: |
| 01:47.10 | spldart | That's why I was offline for a bit there. |
| 01:47.12 | Mr_Molez | ouch |
| 01:47.21 | spldart | now debian x windows doesn't work |
| 01:47.29 | Mr_Molez | ohh |
| 01:47.30 | spldart | Even after I re ran the reconfigure. |
| 01:47.34 | Mr_Molez | what error |
| 01:47.40 | spldart | I'm terminal only now |
| 01:47.45 | Mr_Molez | i had problems with debian and file system errors |
| 01:47.51 | spldart | IC |
| 01:47.55 | spldart | interesting |
| 01:48.00 | Mr_Molez | i installed like 5 times and each time nearly every package became corrupt lol |
| 01:48.10 | spldart | :-0 |
| 01:48.10 | Mr_Molez | otherwise its a nice distro :p |
| 01:48.35 | spldart | That's kinda like saying it blows blue smoke and backfires a bit but otherwise runs good. hehehe |
| 01:48.36 | cosmos | i criticized linux nfs code awhile back and i got over 30 successive denial of service attacks |
| 01:48.38 | cosmos | :) |
| 01:48.45 | spldart | wow |
| 01:48.54 | Mr_Molez | omg |
| 01:49.03 | cosmos | never argue with teenagers |
| 01:49.08 | Mr_Molez | lol |
| 01:49.09 | spldart | hehe |
| 01:49.20 | spldart | the knoppix guys were pretty cool though I have to admit |
| 01:49.27 | Mr_Molez | linux normally handles dos attacks well |
| 01:49.38 | spldart | #knoppix > #debian |
| 01:50.04 | Mr_Molez | do u see any error messages spl ? |
| 01:50.06 | cosmos | my dsl doesnt handle dos attacks from DS3 hosts |
| 01:50.17 | Mr_Molez | :S |
| 01:51.13 | spldart | sorry... No |
| 01:51.34 | spldart | I got some successive blue screen with gray messages. But no specific error messages. :( |
| 01:51.34 | Mr_Molez | type X ... see what it says :p |
| 01:51.37 | spldart | ok |
| 01:52.01 | spldart | it scrolled my screen |
| 01:52.05 | spldart | lots of text |
| 01:52.12 | spldart | I have 3 EE's now though |
| 01:52.21 | Mr_Molez | ahh.. what are they |
| 01:52.31 | spldart | mouse problems.......Woah |
| 01:52.37 | spldart | lemme check into this |
| 01:52.58 | spldart | I might be able to fix a mouse problem by myself ;) |
| 01:52.58 | Mr_Molez | hehe |
| 01:52.58 | spldart | Thanks for the X though |
| 01:53.01 | Mr_Molez | np |
| 01:53.27 | spldart | I'm pulling the mouse from normal port and putting it on usb |
| 01:55.11 | spldart | X then started a grey screen with X pointer.. But nothing else... I'm rebooting |
| 01:55.21 | Mr_Molez | wait |
| 01:55.28 | Mr_Molez | thats all its suppose to do |
| 01:55.50 | spldart | I though.. I want to start normal though. |
| 01:55.54 | Mr_Molez | startx |
| 01:55.56 | Mr_Molez | :p |
| 01:56.01 | spldart | :) |
| 01:58.05 | spldart | You fixed me! I can't believe something as silly as a misconfigured mouse cause that. I thought it was a graphical misconfiguration :( |
| 01:58.13 | Mr_Molez | lol |
| 01:58.33 | Mr_Molez | yeh X can be very tempermental :p |
| 01:58.46 | spldart | I guess |
| 01:58.54 | spldart | Very tempermental |
| 02:00.49 | spldart | I'll say it again. You guys are way cooler and more helpful than other channels :) |
| 02:02.23 | Mr_Molez | :) |
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| 02:19.42 | spldart | As an update for anyone interested. I have debian bzfs and thttpd both serving inside the lan. but not outside. |
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| 02:22.09 | Mr_Molez | do u want it serving outside ? |
| 02:25.58 | spldart | yeah... eventually |
| 02:26.14 | spldart | I'm trying to get thttpd to act right though |
| 02:26.28 | spldart | It's hosting the wrong directory. And bzfs is got a couple of bugs |
| 02:26.39 | spldart | And of course I'm still learning :) |
| 02:26.49 | Mr_Molez | apache usually works very well out of the box |
| 02:27.11 | spldart | I had apache running. But figuring out the configuration was complicated |
| 02:27.26 | Mr_Molez | k |
| 02:27.56 | spldart | I wanted to aim it at a specific directory to serve from and I wanted to set it to not automatically list the files but instead you would have to directly address a file.. Private. |
| 02:28.38 | Mr_Molez | ohh |
| 02:28.46 | Mr_Molez | well good luck with it ;) im going to sleep |
| 02:28.52 | Mr_Molez | c u |
| 02:28.55 | spldart | Good nigght |
| 02:29.02 | spldart | thanks again |
| 02:29.06 | Mr_Molez | np :p |
| 02:30.41 | spldart | If JeffM is listening... Would a hardware router :p and this linux machine doing bzfs and web serving be my optimal route? All the windows machines would then be protected by sp2 firewall and firewall. |
| 02:31.19 | spldart | I'm going to shop newegg for routers... |
| 02:32.35 | DTRemenak | spldart: routing through a linux box is a good way to go, actually. if you're up for the work of configuring it, that is... ;) |
| 02:33.09 | spldart | so software router in linux is a viable options. |
| 02:33.45 | spldart | I've got bzfs and thttpd running :| |
| 02:33.50 | JeffM2501 | software is allways viable |
| 02:33.53 | JeffM2501 | hardware is just easyer |
| 02:34.03 | JeffM2501 | the hardware router would protect your entire network |
| 02:34.11 | JeffM2501 | you would not realy even need SP2 firewall |
| 02:34.16 | JeffM2501 | it's more trouble then it's worth |
| 02:34.28 | spldart | If I go hardware... what should I look for. Other than 8 ports and minimum base 100mhz |
| 02:34.30 | JeffM2501 | I don't run SP2 firewall here, or on any system at our office. |
| 02:34.35 | spldart | Agreed bout sp2 |
| 02:34.49 | JeffM2501 | I hate linksys |
| 02:34.52 | JeffM2501 | I use dlink |
| 02:34.55 | JeffM2501 | or gigabit |
| 02:34.56 | spldart | I got newegg open and I'm looking at brands |
| 02:34.58 | spldart | ok |
| 02:35.06 | JeffM2501 | the next one I buy will be a 3com |
| 02:35.10 | JeffM2501 | office connect |
| 02:35.11 | DTRemenak | linux box as a router will protect everything also |
| 02:35.14 | JeffM2501 | yes |
| 02:35.18 | JeffM2501 | linix will work the same as well |
| 02:35.22 | JeffM2501 | just more config time |
| 02:35.36 | spldart | DI-808HV is affordable |
| 02:35.51 | DTRemenak | yeah, that's pretty much the kicker. free in $, bit more costly in setup time |
| 02:35.53 | JeffM2501 | I could have my linux web server do my pppoe and nat and all that |
| 02:35.56 | JeffM2501 | I just chose not too |
| 02:36.18 | JeffM2501 | I like having a nice graphical web thing showing exactly what ports are open |
| 02:36.28 | DTRemenak | that's what webmin is for :) |
| 02:36.29 | JeffM2501 | but you can set that up with webmin on linux too |
| 02:36.47 | JeffM2501 | I just worry about not knowing all things |
| 02:36.56 | JeffM2501 | and he nix system geting rooted |
| 02:36.59 | JeffM2501 | and me not knowing |
| 02:37.05 | DTRemenak | heh |
| 02:37.10 | JeffM2501 | I trust the people at Dlink more then I trust myself with linux |
| 02:37.23 | DTRemenak | dlink's stuff runs linux anyway :) |
| 02:37.28 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 02:37.34 | JeffM2501 | it works realy well |
| 02:38.01 | DTRemenak | why not? |
| 02:38.13 | DTRemenak | hahaha |
| 02:38.57 | spldart | LOL |
| 02:39.10 | creeperz | heh |
| 02:39.13 | creeperz | good movie |
| 02:39.32 | JeffM2501 | the extra stuff was kinda cool |
| 02:39.41 | JeffM2501 | got thunderbirds and "the medalion" too |
| 02:39.46 | creeperz | JeffM2501: what all extra stuff was there? |
| 02:39.51 | JeffM2501 | then cut off all my hair |
| 02:39.59 | JeffM2501 | creeperz, an entire second disk |
| 02:40.04 | creeperz | wow |
| 02:40.11 | creeperz | of just Tron features and commentary? |
| 02:40.20 | JeffM2501 | making of tron |
| 02:40.23 | JeffM2501 | inteviews |
| 02:40.27 | JeffM2501 | normal disk2 stuff |
| 02:40.31 | creeperz | ah |
| 02:40.42 | creeperz | ... |
| 02:41.05 | purple_cow | good movie |
| 02:41.22 | spldart | If you don't mind me asking. I port mapped the router to let linux serve out on 92 and opened 92 on the firewall. But for some reason where I can address 192.168.0. my linux box... I can't IP address my linux box :( |
| 02:41.39 | spldart | doesn't make sense |
| 02:41.40 | spldart | heh |
| 02:41.50 | spldart | of course I'm a brain fry |
| 02:43.19 | spldart | hrm... I wanna try a bz experiment |
| 02:43.31 | JeffM2501 | hmm tron tank model won't allow for vertical aim |
| 02:44.00 | creeperz | dogs cant look up, either |
| 02:44.05 | creeperz | :-P |
| 02:44.11 | JeffM2501 | they can if they sit |
| 02:44.43 | creeperz | or if they try really REALLY hard |
| 02:45.23 | creeperz | i never realyl noticed before how compressed an mp3 really is |
| 02:45.35 | JeffM2501 | purple_cow, blender read a COB or 3dC model file? |
| 02:45.36 | creeperz | i mean, im running out of songs to put on this disc :-/ |
| 02:48.36 | purple_cow | JeffM2501: maybe |
| 02:48.51 | JeffM2501 | foudn it as a dxf :) |
| 02:49.39 | JeffM2501 | 1.3k tris |
| 02:49.42 | JeffM2501 | not too bad |
| 02:53.12 | JeffM2501 | tho the faces are all jacked up ( windings ) |
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| 02:53.58 | JeffM2501 | purple_cow, care to see if you can open any of the other files I have? I'd like to see if I could keep materials |
| 02:54.22 | purple_cow | JeffM2501: kind of busy right now... |
| 02:54.26 | JeffM2501 | k |
| 02:54.32 | JeffM2501 | fair nuf |
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| 03:08.36 | spldart | DTR: can you recommend a good software router/firewall for me to apt-get and experiment with? |
| 03:09.51 | MeBigFatGuy | purple_cow, how does one hook up a commits list on sf? |
| 03:16.51 | brlcad | MeBigFatGuy: there's a script in the CVSROOT module that kicks off an e-mail -- the commit list itself is like any other sf list |
| 03:17.22 | MeBigFatGuy | the script looks for a list called xxx-commits? |
| 03:17.29 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03sgk284 * 10bzflag/src/bzadmin/BZAdminClient.cxx: Allow admin to get ip info upon entering the game and in the join messages of other players (like the client). |
| 03:17.34 | brlcad | the script just sends an e-mail |
| 03:17.49 | MeBigFatGuy | but by default, i assume the script isn't active? |
| 03:18.01 | brlcad | my default there is no such script |
| 03:18.05 | MeBigFatGuy | ah i see |
| 03:18.45 | brlcad | you add the script, and hook it up to the cvs administrative files that get called on commit |
| 03:20.08 | MeBigFatGuy | this is the notify script? |
| 03:20.24 | brlcad | http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/bzflag/CVSROOT/loginfo?rev=1.32&view=auto |
| 03:21.01 | brlcad | the syncmail line gets called and formats up the e-mail |
| 03:21.03 | MeBigFatGuy | oh syncmail |
| 03:22.36 | brlcad | and as you can see, it's just an e-mail -- it could just as easily be a list of personal e-mails |
| 03:24.10 | brlcad | spldart: you don't have to apt-get a firewall, it's built into the kernel |
| 03:24.16 | brlcad | spldart: run iptables --list |
| 03:24.20 | brlcad | (as root) |
| 03:24.57 | spldart | ah.. kew |
| 03:25.31 | cosmos | <rael> hrm i always thought the Gap Band was from the Gap commercials? this song has a 1978 copyright though weird |
| 03:25.36 | spldart | The more I'm researching it.. And talking to cosmos... I'm thinking the hardware router might be the best way to go. |
| 03:25.51 | orange | you dropped a bomb on me, baby |
| 03:26.15 | cosmos | heh orange |
| 03:26.39 | orange | seriously, that guy must have been joking |
| 03:27.16 | cosmos | nope |
| 03:28.07 | cosmos | i almost fell out of my chair when i saw snoop dogg did a video with justin timberlake and charlie wilson |
| 03:28.22 | sgk284 | when i view the changelog in vim the upper left corner has a character represented by <FEFF> anyone know what that is? or did i somehow insert that |
| 03:28.58 | cosmos | as far as im concerned thats like NWA doing a video with the new kids on the block |
| 03:29.31 | spldart | What are the features I'm looking for in a router? |
| 03:30.09 | brlcad | gerbil power |
| 03:30.14 | spldart | LOL |
| 03:30.49 | cosmos | a simple home router should pretty much be the same. the linksys are popular because people can make improved roms |
| 03:31.02 | spldart | the gigabit routers are cheap at newegg |
| 03:31.15 | cosmos | but basically, a decent web interface, the ability to host a DMZ, control access to host ports tcp/udp and reliability |
| 03:31.39 | cosmos | a real router is a different story |
| 03:33.12 | spldart | The gerbils use steroids? |
| 03:33.46 | cosmos | that tom delay is taking heat from all sides now |
| 03:34.31 | brlcad | no no.. just feed them creatine |
| 03:34.46 | spldart | bulk, cut, bulk, cut |
| 03:39.18 | spldart | I've narrowed a bit too 3 different models. SMC, LINKSYS, D-LINK AND NETGEAR. 8 port switch was a big limit on selection at newegg. |
| 03:39.55 | cosmos | the linksys models tend to work well. some folks have hacked them to gain extra features etc |
| 03:40.45 | spldart | oops. I should have said 4 different models |
| 03:46.15 | jpa_ | mornign |
| 03:58.34 | cosmos | http://tinyurl.com/4fqvj boggle |
| 04:01.45 | spldart | I've decided on http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1759,1621790,00.asp Any input? |
| 04:02.27 | spldart | Wow. I need to run out and buy another gun :eek: I have so many... What to get next... hrm |
| 04:02.34 | spldart | :-p |
| 04:02.41 | cosmos | should do what you need |
| 04:03.09 | spldart | 38.50 shipping and handling |
| 04:03.23 | cosmos | ive not owned firearms. cosmos + firearms == prison |
| 04:03.26 | spldart | And I can just hook one of the ports to my switch for the extra machines |
| 04:03.32 | spldart | LOL :( |
| 04:03.48 | spldart | I love target shooting and have some antique firearms |
| 04:04.12 | spldart | Including a real nazi 7mm mauser liberated from a war camp |
| 04:04.44 | cosmos | i would enjoy that but i know i would also end up target shooting half of the us population |
| 04:04.54 | cosmos | id just like a dirty harry .44 |
| 04:07.08 | spldart | LOL |
| 04:07.23 | spldart | I need to get one of those.. I do have a James Bond walther PPk though |
| 04:07.24 | spldart | hehe |
| 04:08.03 | spldart | Anywho. I can simply connect a cable from one port of the router to a switch and then add more machines there right? |
| 04:08.33 | cosmos | yeah it should have an uplink port |
| 04:08.41 | cosmos | if not just slap a crossover between the switches |
| 04:08.50 | spldart | crossover cable |
| 04:08.56 | creeperz | word |
| 04:08.58 | spldart | Easy enough |
| 04:09.20 | spldart | I'd hate to ditch my switch... It's only a few months old |
| 04:09.33 | creeperz | spldart: i'll give you address... :-) |
| 04:09.45 | cosmos | what switch |
| 04:10.11 | spldart | ok... one wan and 4 out |
| 04:10.21 | spldart | will need crossover cable so I'll add that to my order |
| 04:10.56 | spldart | Just a smartlink switch I picked up recently cuz my old 5 port hub was well outgrown |
| 04:11.08 | cosmos | heh a dutch airliner was refused fly over access in the US due to passengers being on the no fly zone. low on fuel they were told "not our problem" by us controllers |
| 04:11.09 | cosmos | hahaha |
| 04:12.21 | cosmos | homeland security policy is allow a crash before allow landing with barred passengers |
| 04:40.51 | spldart | Order made :) |
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| 04:51.16 | spldart | I went back to apache2. Got it serving in the lan again. hardware router on the way. |
| 05:10.44 | spldart | I can almost taste global login on bzfs :-p |
| 05:19.54 | Aribeth_away | tastes like wild hikkory nuts |
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| 08:46.09 | mejobloggs | hello |
| 08:46.15 | [dmp] | hi |
| 08:46.21 | Pimpinella | hoe |
| 08:46.55 | mejobloggs | i want to set up a server so i can play LAN with my brother |
| 08:46.59 | mejobloggs | but i want secretplace/spiralzone settings |
| 08:47.11 | mejobloggs | can i find those settings somewhere? |
| 08:47.20 | mejobloggs | or save them somehow? |
| 08:48.49 | Pimpinella | you can save the map with bzflag |
| 08:49.00 | mejobloggs | yup, got the map |
| 08:49.12 | Pimpinella | if you're lucky the settings are within the map |
| 08:49.16 | _Manu_ | you can save the map.. but about the config.. yo must talk to the server admin/owner |
| 08:49.29 | Pimpinella | look for an options section |
| 08:51.30 | Pimpinella | if not you can ask Nidhoggr for settings or try to imagine |
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| 08:52.55 | mejobloggs | what am i meant to be doing in the 'options' section? |
| 08:53.52 | Pimpinella | you can add the server settings in the maps options setting as you would do in a bzfs config file |
| 08:54.22 | mejobloggs | umm, how? |
| 08:54.36 | mejobloggs | is it a 2.0.2 thing? |
| 08:54.40 | mejobloggs | cause i only have 00 |
| 08:54.52 | Pimpinella | do you know how to make a bzf config file? |
| 08:54.59 | Pimpinella | no, it's no new feature |
| 08:55.06 | cosmos | , |
| 08:55.08 | mejobloggs | ah, ok |
| 08:55.25 | mejobloggs | yes, i can make a config file |
| 08:55.50 | Pimpinella | k, are you on a unix platform? |
| 08:55.51 | mejobloggs | do i press 'save world', and it saves the settings also? |
| 08:55.58 | mejobloggs | win |
| 08:56.27 | mejobloggs | dows |
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| 08:56.53 | Pimpinella | if they are part ot the map, yes it will, if they are not part of the map, but only specified in a config file or on commandline, then no, they wont be saved |
| 08:57.08 | mejobloggs | ummmm |
| 08:57.56 | trepan | flags are not saved in the "options" block |
| 08:58.03 | Pimpinella | do you have an options sectrion in the map file you saved from bzflag? |
| 08:58.25 | Pimpinella | trepan: but other options? |
| 08:58.40 | trepan | 2.0 always saves with an options section |
| 08:59.38 | Pimpinella | nice |
| 08:59.47 | trepan | some of the saved options are: -c -mp -ms -j +r -rabbit -a -sa -st -sw -handicap |
| 09:00.03 | trepan | also, the BZDB diffs are saved as -set 's |
| 09:00.57 | Pimpinella | mejobloggs: then it's your day, just add some flags you want and you're done |
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| 10:42.20 | guu | ToughShooter: Aribeth was last seen here 1 day, 12 hours, 48 minutes, and 58 seconds ago saying: <Aribeth> get smashed with gentoo |
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| 10:52.45 | eva-00 | hello ! |
| 10:53.24 | eva-00 | who speaks French here? |
| 11:00.34 | jpa_ | sgk284: <3 |
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| 11:20.00 | jpa_ | iiiih :) |
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| 12:55.51 | ToughShooter | Hi unine |
| 12:56.03 | unine | Hi |
| 12:56.04 | jpa_ | hi ts |
| 12:56.29 | ToughShooter | Hey jpa ;-) |
| 12:58.37 | jpa_ | are you evil? |
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| 13:37.13 | ToughShooter | jpa_: nope |
| 13:37.27 | jpa_ | evil. |
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| 14:29.40 | Grumbler | morning all |
| 14:30.04 | jpa_ | grumbl grumbl |
| 14:30.31 | ToughShooter | Is there any progress on http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1138609&group_id=3248&atid=103248 ? I see in my university computers are also effected on that spike effect (geforce 2mx + Fedora Core). I could provide a sample conf file that will cause spike effect with certain servers. |
| 14:31.32 | ToughShooter | Afternoon Grumbler |
| 14:35.11 | jpa_ | hmm.. give me some nice company and address :) |
| 14:35.31 | jpa_ | we must write a letter to apply for some job in English, and i have a bad imagination :) |
| 14:35.38 | ToughShooter | I'm trying to get a simple test case but I'll need time for that because I'm not that often in computer rooms there. I could also look up further required information if needed. |
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| 14:52.07 | ToughShooter | ~bzflist |
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| 15:30.54 | TimRiker | ToughShooter: is 2.0.0 effected in the same way? |
| 15:31.22 | jpa_ | uh |
| 15:31.38 | jpa_ | what do you mean? that bug is about 2.0.0 |
| 15:31.45 | TimRiker | and was 1.10.x just fine? |
| 15:31.51 | TimRiker | oh, sorry I meant 2.0.2 |
| 15:32.37 | ToughShooter | TimRiker: Not sure, didn't got bzflag running on the machine (it compiled but no display when started...). Our admins installed 2.0 if I remember correct, will look it up tomorrow. |
| 15:32.51 | TimRiker | k. |
| 15:33.16 | TimRiker | not sure what "spiked" means. perhaps a screenshot with that would be helpful? |
| 15:33.16 | ToughShooter | I think it has to do most likely either with spheres or with transparency |
| 15:34.00 | TimRiker | I don't see it here, so it varies on GL implementations. |
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| 15:36.22 | ToughShooter | http://resfork.sourceforge.net/temp/ |
| 15:36.41 | ToughShooter | It seems only to happen with geforce cards on Linux |
| 15:37.00 | TimRiker | oh. cool looking radar you have there. |
| 15:37.20 | ToughShooter | Note the FPS please... |
| 15:37.51 | ToughShooter | However not all cards geforce cards seem to affected. Tegan told me she would not see the effect. I need to ask her further, too.. |
| 15:38.49 | ToughShooter | It lookes like the spikes move when driving around with geforce 4 mx, at university we have geforce 2 mx and the spikes are static and much less big |
| 15:40.09 | ToughShooter | Turning smoothing off makes the error disappear |
| 15:41.58 | ToughShooter | The only one who was affected and has enough technical knowledge is too busy to help :/ |
| 15:42.35 | jpa_ | hmm.. wouldn't "yup" be faster to write than "/me nods" ?:) |
| 15:42.50 | TimRiker | =) |
| 15:43.07 | jpa_ | and while nodding is cute, it does not make you any cuter :P |
| 15:44.09 | ToughShooter | It creates a sphere full of mystical wisdom, IMHO |
| 15:46.27 | ToughShooter | There are programs like TypeIt4me out there, too. :-p |
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| 15:51.04 | ToughShooter | Wow, modeltool compiles :) |
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| 15:57.48 | spldart | sphere of mystical widom? |
| 15:58.02 | spldart | Is that anything like Bart Simpsons 'cone of ignorance' ? |
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| 15:58.53 | fabianne | hi |
| 15:59.03 | tupone | ohi |
| 15:59.11 | fabianne | toni tuponi! |
| 15:59.25 | tupone | :( I'm not toni :) |
| 15:59.25 | BearPerson | hmm. There should be an option for flags to be good/bad flags... good for some, bad for most |
| 15:59.55 | fabianne | tupone: but i wanna call you toni toponi... |
| 16:00.09 | fabianne | okay its okay if i call you just tuponi? |
| 16:00.11 | BearPerson | so that what would make a bad flag be tossed just turns the flag from bad to good |
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| 16:01.00 | tupone | well, yeah, you can. I will not answer then :) |
| 16:01.11 | fabianne | hm.. |
| 16:01.56 | tupone | you know, tupone is highlighted to me, and beep to . doing the same for toni tuponi is not easy :) |
| 16:02.19 | tupone | I can change my nick, though |
| 16:02.27 | fabianne | i have several words under highlight, you know i s just ADDing one more word... |
| 16:03.05 | tupone | fabianne fabianne .. ok you can call me whatever you want |
| 16:03.15 | fabianne | ok, alfredo |
| 16:03.23 | tupone | yeah, that is good :) |
| 16:03.32 | fabianne | my fetuccini |
| 16:03.34 | fabianne | muahaha |
| 16:04.15 | fabianne | actually ... :)~~~ |
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| 16:04.42 | tupone | alexandra |
| 16:05.22 | fabianne | awww... you remind of someone ... thats also |
| 16:05.27 | fabianne | oh oh |
| 16:16.05 | jpa_ | hi fabianne |
| 16:16.16 | fabianne | hi jpa |
| 16:16.40 | Pimpinella | BearPerson: explain |
| 16:17.19 | Pimpinella | good for some, bad for most? they are either good or bad, no? |
| 16:17.48 | BearPerson | Well, there may be flags that most users think of as bad flags while some players actually like them |
| 16:18.47 | BearPerson | like a flag that would make every shot go 30 degrees to the left (like the turret is pointing the wrong way) |
| 16:18.50 | Pimpinella | like quick turn or machine gun? |
| 16:19.26 | Pimpinella | hm |
| 16:19.31 | BearPerson | most users would hate that flag, while others may like it because it eases dodging |
| 16:21.14 | Pimpinella | interesting idea, though i don't see how it can be separated who thinks of it a as a good and who as a bad flag |
| 16:21.24 | Pimpinella | tough the flag idea is nice |
| 16:21.49 | Pimpinella | there had been a suggestion for a turning turret flag ocne |
| 16:22.02 | jpa_ | i like that fisheyething |
| 16:22.08 | jpa_ | wide angle that is :) |
| 16:22.24 | Pimpinella | hard to master, but powerful |
| 16:22.27 | BearPerson | yeah, some people may actually like that one too, allows a wide overview |
| 16:22.44 | BearPerson | turns to whoever you're locking on? |
| 16:23.23 | BearPerson | I put the flag up at http://www.bzflag.org/wiki/FlagList |
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| 16:40.21 | BearPerson | are bad flags auto-dropped by the client or by the server? |
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| 16:49.05 | BearPerson | hehe |
| 16:49.20 | Noodleman | Peer is the source of all network troubles and general internet discord |
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| 16:51.04 | Yoda | *cricket |
| 16:51.34 | JeffM2501 | how can you say that |
| 16:51.38 | JeffM2501 | you've been here for 18 seconds? |
| 16:53.04 | Grumbler | troll |
| 16:53.32 | JeffM2501 | ya think :) |
| 16:54.26 | jpa_ | haha! |
| 16:54.32 | jpa_ | now i know who to blame |
| 16:54.45 | jpa_ | ~lart Noodleman for resetting my connection |
| 16:57.02 | spldart | www.aboutdebian.com is very useful. I've been studying for hours :) |
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| 17:04.26 | menotume | err, *resEt* |
| 17:05.40 | Grumbler | spldart< they should update their webpage, mandrake changed its name... |
| 17:06.05 | jpa_ | menotume: u suck |
| 17:06.08 | spldart | Oh well.. It's still stuffing my poor little brain full of linux info ;) |
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| 17:06.19 | jpa_ | iiih |
| 17:06.23 | jpa_ | sgk284_ <3<<3<33 |
| 17:06.26 | menotume | jpa_: ty |
| 17:06.32 | menotume | and, why ? |
| 17:06.41 | sgk284_ | hey jpa_ |
| 17:06.44 | sgk284_ | hows it going> |
| 17:06.45 | sgk284_ | ? |
| 17:06.56 | jpa_ | menotume: you typoed |
| 17:06.58 | jpa_ | fine |
| 17:07.06 | jpa_ | now that you came :) |
| 17:07.10 | menotume | lol |
| 17:07.54 | sgk284_ | haha |
| 17:07.59 | sgk284_ | crazy finns |
| 17:08.02 | sgk284_ | ;) |
| 17:08.04 | sgk284_ | <3 |
| 17:08.09 | jpa_ | yes we are |
| 17:08.24 | jpa_ | atleast me and jpa |
| 17:08.48 | sgk284_ | heh |
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| 17:49.33 | spldart | bzzzzzzzzt |
| 17:49.49 | spldart | The material gets a bit dry after a few hours :( |
| 17:50.00 | spldart | My brain fried. Burnt a coprocessor |
| 17:50.17 | spldart | z80 match coprocessor hehe |
| 17:50.25 | spldart | match - math |
| 17:51.05 | DTRemenak | nope, but I know some of the people who are :) |
| 17:52.00 | brlcad | the laser was the best part |
| 17:52.32 | brlcad | :) |
| 17:54.00 | Pimpinella | memnarch found an interesting bug |
| 17:54.58 | Pimpinella | Reported by Memnarch: important: I went nr while playing, and decided to do a test. I went and grabbed enemy flag, and captured it |
| 17:55.09 | Pimpinella | Reported by Memnarch: captured it. vila tells me it actually worked, and since I was nr, no one could kill me. |
| 17:59.21 | Pimpinella | though if i'm nr i usually can't grep a flag |
| 17:59.39 | Pimpinella | so in his case the connection must have been partially alive |
| 18:00.07 | BearPerson | could he have faked pickup without being there? |
| 18:00.20 | BearPerson | or just driven through flag and base on dead reckoning? |
| 18:00.32 | Pimpinella | and there must have been uplink _and_ downlink |
| 18:01.28 | Pimpinella | no, i think it has been as he describes |
| 18:02.12 | Pimpinella | memnarch is a trustie |
| 18:02.26 | BearPerson | yeah, just wondering how to understand his report |
| 18:02.44 | Chestal | I guess simpl UDP did no longer work, only TCP |
| 18:03.22 | BearPerson | or he lagged out for a while, during that time drove alone on the map, and sat on the base until he de-lagged |
| 18:06.25 | Grumbler | its scary to think that worchester is actually becoming a tech center. |
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| 18:07.09 | Grumbler | ...almost as scary as RTP |
| 18:07.35 | Grumbler | ....without all the rednecks and with kennedys |
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| 18:32.57 | _Manu_ | Pimpinella, weird.. i tested it and the team flag is dropped when i'm nr |
| 18:33.21 | _Manu_ | Pimpinella, perhaps due a net problem he was only dropping some packets |
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| 18:35.33 | bzflagwiz | in ServerStartMenu.cxx line 560: const float widt = fm.getStrLength(status->getFontFace(), should be const float width = fm.getStrLength(status->getFontFace(), |
| 18:36.00 | bzflagwiz | that got all munged together - basically the word width is misspelled |
| 18:36.18 | BearPerson | something to prevent a "oh, and who are you" type of reaction... though I don't know if that happens at all |
| 18:36.50 | BearPerson | on the other hand, the current way probably keeps a lot of privilege-begging off the trustees ;-) |
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| 18:40.04 | bzflagwiz | never mind - appears it might be intentional - and doesn't cause problems anyway :) |
| 18:42.09 | Tupone | bzflag on vms ? |
| 18:44.09 | vms | vms is one acronym for viral memetics, but yeah, I'm definately a geek, just not quite that old. |
| 18:44.09 | Tupone | prolly ascii art |
| 18:44.29 | vms | Ascii art? |
| 18:44.48 | Tupone | character terminals doing graphics |
| 18:44.55 | Tupone | with ascii character |
| 18:45.29 | Tupone | I know there are some GL engine for ascii art |
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| 18:58.44 | Grumbler | ~x sp en que onda guero |
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| 19:04.13 | TimRiker | ~x sp en que onda? |
| 19:04.49 | TimRiker | heh. more or less, que onda -> what's up? |
| 19:05.03 | sgk284_ | ~x sp en si, me tengo mucho autobus |
| 19:05.11 | _Manu_ | lol |
| 19:05.17 | sgk284_ | heh nice |
| 19:05.24 | _Manu_ | not nice.. wrong ;) |
| 19:05.36 | Birdie | you have to put eveyr single word in yourself in that bot? |
| 19:05.36 | sgk284_ | that one year of spanish in freshmen year of highschool paid off |
| 19:05.51 | TimRiker | Birdie: uses babelfish. |
| 19:06.24 | sgk284_ | speaking of babelfish, I'm looking foward to the hitchhikers guide |
| 19:06.30 | sgk284_ | i hope its good |
| 19:06.36 | sgk284_ | they could really mess it up |
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| 19:06.50 | cosmos | CRESCENT CITY, Florida (AP) -- Members of neighboring families shot at each other, wounding six people, as part of a long-running feud that victims said peaked when a girl from one family began dating a boy from the other one. |
| 19:08.22 | _Manu_ | TimRiker, where is in spanish "que onda?" "what's up?" |
| 19:08.51 | cosmos | que lastima |
| 19:09.02 | brlcad | jeje |
| 19:09.02 | _Manu_ | TimRiker, sure not is: "como andas?" that's what's up |
| 19:09.28 | _Manu_ | in spanish.. hola - que tal? - como andas?... |
| 19:09.47 | TimRiker | _Manu_: mexico city area is was common when I lived there back in 86ish |
| 19:10.20 | TimRiker | _Manu_: yeah, onda it probably just anda in slang. |
| 19:10.24 | Grumbler | guero is suppose to be "light skin" |
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| 19:10.51 | Grumbler | so "what's up light skin" would make some sense |
| 19:11.10 | _Manu_ | TimRiker, yes.. probably a distorsionated sound.. heh |
| 19:11.57 | _Manu_ | Grumbler, lol |
| 19:12.10 | sgk284_ | hola, como esta? me llamo esteban! |
| 19:12.33 | sgk284_ | ~x sp en hola, como esta? me llamo esteban! |
| 19:12.49 | _Manu_ | sgk284, este banco esta ocupado por un padre y un hijo, el padre se llama Juan y el hijo ya te lo he dicho... lol |
| 19:13.06 | sgk284_ | what now with the who where? |
| 19:13.23 | Grumbler | great, i am just trying to work out song lyrics and now everybody is speaking babel |
| 19:13.24 | jpa_ | sgk284_: i want to kill someone |
| 19:13.30 | sgk284_ | lol why? |
| 19:14.03 | _Manu_ | ~x en es acertijo |
| 19:14.25 | Tupone | ~x es en acertijo |
| 19:14.38 | Birdie | he knows dutch to? |
| 19:14.55 | sgk284_ | ibot knows many languages |
| 19:14.56 | jpa_ | sgk284_: kapsi.fi new double-xeon server keeps crashing :/ |
| 19:15.02 | TimRiker | Birdie: I don't recall. he knows what babelfish knows |
| 19:15.13 | TimRiker | ibot knows all |
| 19:15.15 | ibot | and don't you forget it |
| 19:15.17 | sgk284_ | he knows dutch |
| 19:15.20 | _Manu_ | sgk284, is a spanish riddle for kids.. can you solve it? ;-p |
| 19:15.30 | brlcad | que tal is more common i think .. que onda more a mexican slang thing |
| 19:15.31 | sgk284_ | _Manu_, i can't even read it |
| 19:15.33 | sgk284_ | ;) |
| 19:15.37 | jpa_ | like "oh it is working at last" "thank you admins i love you so much <3<3" "..has quit(Ping timeout)" |
| 19:15.52 | sgk284_ | i took like 5 months of spanish 6 years ago and never looked at it again:) |
| 19:16.04 | TimRiker | _Manu_: juan tambien? |
| 19:16.12 | sgk284_ | i'm one of those ignorant americans who only speaks our own warped version of english |
| 19:16.27 | _Manu_ | TimRiker, no.. wrong.. read it.. what's the son name |
| 19:16.28 | sgk284_ | jpa_: lol |
| 19:16.52 | _Manu_ | TimRiker, sgk284 wrote it.. k |
| 19:17.04 | jpa_ | nothing feels so frustrating.. no ooooopsie.. nothing |
| 19:17.05 | sgk284_ | manu, is that the thing where the father is the grandfather and the son is the father of a boy? |
| 19:17.08 | jpa_ | just silent crash |
| 19:17.16 | Grumbler | sgk284< you are in the club, i didnt know.....guess i was ignorant of that as well. we gone had some grits and chitlins at dem der last metton. |
| 19:17.34 | sgk284_ | ~Grumbler++ |
| 19:17.43 | sgk284_ | lets see babel handle that ;) |
| 19:17.48 | TimRiker | _Manu_: I don't get it. |
| 19:17.52 | _Manu_ | TimRiker, Este banco..... -> Esteban... this is the fathers name |
| 19:18.14 | _Manu_ | TimRiker, errr.. the sons name |
| 19:18.16 | sgk284_ | babelfish says: this bank this occupied by a father and a son, the father is called Juan and the son already you I have said... lol to it |
| 19:18.42 | TimRiker | _Manu_: lame. |
| 19:18.47 | sgk284_ | lol |
| 19:18.53 | _Manu_ | heh |
| 19:18.56 | sgk284_ | ~TimRiker++ |
| 19:19.19 | TimRiker | cual is el animal mas peresoso? |
| 19:19.26 | TimRiker | er s/is/es/ |
| 19:19.38 | brlcad | Hola, me llamo Inigo Montoya. Mataste a mi padre, preparete a morir! |
| 19:19.56 | TimRiker | ~kill brlcad |
| 19:19.58 | ibot | ACTION shoots a inverse neutron gun at brlcad |
| 19:20.00 | jpa_ | brlcad: i soo much like when you speak mongol for me :) |
| 19:20.02 | _Manu_ | lol "hola Iñigo |
| 19:20.34 | sgk284_ | hey i think i can actually read what brlcad said |
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| 19:20.59 | brlcad | if you've seen the movie, you don't have to know spanish :) |
| 19:21.01 | TimRiker | ~x en es what is the lazyest animal? |
| 19:21.12 | brlcad | heh |
| 19:21.12 | TimRiker | hehe. ma's |
| 19:21.13 | jpa_ | ~tr en fi cat |
| 19:21.14 | ibot | kissa |
| 19:21.19 | _Manu_ | más |
| 19:21.22 | Grumbler | wasnt it in english in the movie |
| 19:21.37 | jpa_ | the only finnish word ibot can say :) |
| 19:21.54 | brlcad | ~spell laziest |
| 19:21.55 | TimRiker | ~tr en fi dog |
| 19:22.11 | TimRiker | ~x en es what is the laziest animal? |
| 19:22.17 | TimRiker | ah |
| 19:22.26 | _Manu_ | :) |
| 19:22.39 | _Manu_ | you wrote peresoso.. like it sounds in Mexico :) |
| 19:22.58 | TimRiker | heh. well that is where I learned spanglish after all. |
| 19:23.09 | _Manu_ | hola manito! :) |
| 19:23.35 | brlcad | er, waves too :) |
| 19:24.08 | brlcad | Manu tiene manitos? :) |
| 19:24.19 | sgk284_ | ~x sp en un pero tengo autobus |
| 19:24.28 | _Manu_ | well... manitos is used for friend.. not for brothers :) |
| 19:24.41 | sgk284_ | i thought pero was dog? |
| 19:24.53 | Grumbler | ~slap brlcad for waving his manitos around the room |
| 19:24.55 | ibot | ACTION slaps brlcad for waving his manitos around the room, keep your grubby fingers to yourself! |
| 19:25.00 | ToughShooter | ~bzflist |
| 19:25.07 | TimRiker | ~x en es dog |
| 19:25.14 | _Manu_ | guau |
| 19:25.19 | sgk284_ | ~x sp en un perro tengo autobus |
| 19:25.28 | TimRiker | sgk284: two r's != 1 r. |
| 19:25.34 | sgk284_ | heh |
| 19:25.38 | _Manu_ | perro is also used in spanish for perezoso.. lazy |
| 19:25.55 | TimRiker | hmm. never heard that is .mx |
| 19:25.56 | sgk284_ | ~x sp en un perra tenga mi perro |
| 19:26.03 | _Manu_ | no.. is es (spain) |
| 19:26.13 | TimRiker | k. |
| 19:26.13 | sgk284_ | spanish is fun |
| 19:26.24 | _Manu_ | if somedoby tell you.. Que perro eres!... now you know what it means |
| 19:26.39 | TimRiker | in .mx they also use (spelling?) flojo? I don't recall. |
| 19:26.49 | TimRiker | ~x es en flojo |
| 19:26.52 | _Manu_ | flojo is weak |
| 19:27.00 | jpa_ | why isn't anyone interested in Finnish? :/ |
| 19:27.04 | sgk284_ | timriker, pero != perro, but perro==perra? ;) (i know its gender difference, but it still doesnt parse well with me) |
| 19:27.10 | TimRiker | jpa_: I'm sure the fins are. |
| 19:27.24 | _Manu_ | no.. if you tell "perra" to a woman.. you are insulting.. |
| 19:27.25 | jpa_ | finns not fins! |
| 19:27.42 | Grumbler | just finis |
| 19:27.44 | TimRiker | heh. /me knows. it was intentional. |
| 19:27.46 | sgk284_ | manu, i assume its akin to calling a women in america a female dog |
| 19:27.54 | cosmos | Pechos Gigantescos Deliciosos |
| 19:27.57 | sgk284_ | woman* |
| 19:28.26 | TimRiker | _Manu_: no answer to my riddle? |
| 19:28.50 | Grumbler | giant, delicous peaches? |
| 19:28.50 | _Manu_ | the "perezoso" is an animal.. |
| 19:28.52 | _Manu_ | in spanish.. |
| 19:28.53 | brlcad | _Manu_: y si dices a una mujer .. "Que perra eres!" =) |
| 19:28.53 | TimRiker | yes, but that's not the answer. |
| 19:29.10 | _Manu_ | brlcad, then.. you must run.. lol |
| 19:30.07 | _Manu_ | TimRiker, then.. dunno.. i surrender :) |
| 19:30.13 | TimRiker | _Manu_: the answer is "el pez". sabes por que? |
| 19:30.19 | sgk284_ | ~x en sp battlezone flag |
| 19:30.20 | _Manu_ | dunno |
| 19:30.29 | TimRiker | que hace el pez? |
| 19:30.32 | sgk284_ | ~x en sp battle zone flag |
| 19:30.45 | TimRiker | =) |
| 19:30.52 | sgk284_ | yea marketing is way easier in english |
| 19:31.01 | _Manu_ | well.. really "nada" is from "nadar".. and the pez.. bucea from bucear.. ;) |
| 19:31.08 | _Manu_ | but it's funny too |
| 19:31.13 | TimRiker | =) |
| 19:31.29 | _Manu_ | and bucear is to dive |
| 19:31.50 | _Manu_ | and.. another in spanish: ¿Sabes cual es el ave que vuela más alto? |
| 19:32.13 | TimRiker | _Manu_: no. no se. |
| 19:32.20 | TimRiker | el avion? |
| 19:32.23 | _Manu_ | TimRiker, el "ave María" |
| 19:32.28 | TimRiker | hehehe |
| 19:32.53 | _Manu_ | cuando se reza se dice eso.. jej |
| 19:32.56 | spldart | two quick questions I you guys don't mind :) |
| 19:33.06 | spldart | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:33.06 | TimRiker | ok jej |
| 19:33.07 | brlcad | jeje |
| 19:33.31 | TimRiker | spldart: there is a command line argument to just test the config. -S perhaps? |
| 19:33.35 | spldart | Is there a easy way to configure out the auto directory and public listing of all my files being hosted? |
| 19:33.35 | spldart | or served |
| 19:33.37 | _Manu_ | ~x es en jej |
| 19:33.49 | TimRiker | spldart: and the nicest way to restart apache is with "apachectl graceful" |
| 19:33.51 | _Manu_ | jej |
| 19:33.54 | _Manu_ | heh |
| 19:33.56 | brlcad | spldart: apachectl configtest |
| 19:34.12 | Grumbler | spldart< reboot :) |
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| 19:34.17 | sgk284_ | ~x en sp I ate pizza for lunch |
| 19:34.24 | TimRiker | brlcad: hmm. never used that one. |
| 19:34.53 | TimRiker | spldart: you might be looking for just turning off directory indexes. |
| 19:35.00 | brlcad | yeah pretty useful, dunno why it's not in the output list |
| 19:35.11 | brlcad | it'll only check syntax, though |
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| 19:35.53 | Grumbler | you can also leave indexing on, but force the top level off to an index.html |
| 19:36.01 | techman | woah... that was weird |
| 19:36.25 | Grumbler | so you only get directory listings for sub directories, which are essentially now hidden |
| 19:36.38 | TimRiker | er s/fells/feels/ sheesh. |
| 19:36.56 | techman | what did I do? |
| 19:38.15 | techman | grumbler.. If I force the top level to an index.html does that keep somebody from browsing my files? |
| 19:38.28 | TimRiker | techman: just entering with a vague statement. I'm mostly kidding. |
| 19:38.33 | techman | Oh |
| 19:38.34 | techman | kew |
| 19:38.55 | techman | I though you guys thought I bailed when I got disconnected after asking those quiestions |
| 19:39.05 | techman | Stupid nickserv wont even take my password now :( |
| 19:39.42 | Grumbler | techman< depends on the structure underneath, but if you dont want any dir listing, disable it in the config....... |
| 19:41.55 | techman | Can you give me an example of disabling ALL directory listing in a config? |
| 19:42.58 | techman | Cuz I'd like to just kill all directory listings and have people see something like this : http://spldart.bakadigital.com:91/ when I get my new server online |
| 19:44.25 | techman | Instead of the "Index of/" and a long list of files |
| 19:45.16 | techman | Basically I'm not trying to host a web site but use my own bandwidth to host things I want to show others with direct links. |
| 19:45.38 | techman | silly example : http://spldart.bakadigital.com:91/spme.jpg |
| 19:45.48 | Grumbler | DirectoryIndex techmanErrorPage.htm |
| 19:45.55 | techman | Thanks.... |
| 19:46.46 | Grumbler | you will have to update sites-available |
| 19:47.02 | techman | To include the one I'm adding ... |
| 19:47.15 | techman | techmanerrorpage.htm or whateva? |
| 19:47.17 | Grumbler | yep in the redirect |
| 19:47.22 | techman | No problem |
| 19:47.41 | techman | I'm almost getting the hang of this :| |
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| 19:47.54 | techman | LOTS of reading :) |
| 19:48.01 | Grumbler | i still figuring it out......hence my expert warning message |
| 19:48.09 | Matt114 | jeffm? |
| 19:48.19 | Matt114 | ar u here? |
| 19:48.24 | techman | that's fine. You gave me a direction try |
| 19:48.29 | techman | and i understand no promises ;) |
| 19:48.37 | techman | BRB Gotta get my kids from school today |
| 19:48.41 | Grumbler | cool, i will feel less guilty then |
| 19:48.46 | Matt114 | DTRemenak? |
| 19:48.54 | DTRemenak | yo |
| 19:48.58 | Matt114 | yo |
| 19:49.01 | Grumbler | yo |
| 19:49.21 | Matt114 | lol |
| 19:52.57 | BearPerson | yo |
| 19:53.06 | jpa_ | yo |
| 19:53.06 | ruskie | lo |
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| 20:14.06 | Grumbler | |. |
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| 20:27.51 | techman | typing class in jr. high is paying off again in linux terminal :-p I took the class for the hotties 8-D |
| 20:35.11 | BearPerson | mouse is inferior ;-) |
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| 20:39.03 | techman | I'm making a silly index.html in nano ;) |
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| 21:07.42 | escristian | When a file is being read by bzfs in the BZWReader::readWorldStream. If the object uses a manager there's a call made to writeTomanager, else writeToGroupDef. What are those objects (managers and group def) used for? Are they sent to the clients |
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| 21:13.04 | greatoak | Hello TimRiker |
| 21:13.16 | greatoak | Are you available for a quick question? |
| 21:13.22 | greatoak | Sik says to say hi. |
| 21:13.49 | greatoak | He would introduce me to you but he had to run out... and is thus not connected to the net |
| 21:18.29 | Birdie | chestal: ducati is involved with masterbanlist? |
| 21:24.32 | techman | Thank you Grumbler. I muddled through it but it worked. ;) |
| 21:26.14 | greatoak | hello... |
| 21:28.30 | brlcad | Birdie: "involved with"? |
| 21:29.03 | brlcad | ~d |
| 21:29.17 | brlcad | oooh.. sn0w_m0nkey! |
| 21:29.35 | brlcad | haven't seen him in ages |
| 21:30.55 | DTRemenak | he plays on biya's server pretty frequently |
| 21:32.46 | Birdie | using masterbanlist * |
| 21:33.11 | techman | I got apache2 and bzfs running on debian intraweb http://spldart.bakadigital.com:91/apache.JPG. Now to get a share working on debian that windows can write too. |
| 21:33.28 | techman | All I need now is that router... Friday :-D |
| 21:36.40 | BearPerson | "The only person who always got his work done by friday was Robinson Crusoe" |
| 21:36.54 | Chestal | birdie: actually I don't know |
| 21:41.17 | techman | Thanks BearPerson... Now I got 'Gilligans Island' music running through my head :-o |
| 21:41.20 | techman | :-p |
| 21:41.47 | BearPerson | hehe |
| 21:46.38 | greatoak | anyone here good with Grub>? |
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| 21:56.06 | techman | Not I, said the fly. |
| 21:56.34 | BearPerson | I suppose you can always ask your question and see if someone knows the answer |
| 21:57.00 | BearPerson | I'm not sure if we have any grub devs here, but I suppose "good" is relative ;-) |
| 21:58.09 | Birdie | can you found out(@ chestal) |
| 21:58.14 | Birdie | find out *? |
| 21:59.24 | Tupone | greatoak: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=1&chap=10 I guess it could help |
| 22:00.33 | greatoak | sorry. :( |
| 22:00.51 | greatoak | I have a system with 2 drives hda and sda. |
| 22:00.55 | Mr_Molez | greatoak: i think i know enough to get grub working |
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| 22:01.50 | greatoak | sda was only accessible after I recompiled the kernel and included a couple modules in the initd for the booting. |
| 22:02.06 | Tupone | so redo grub-install |
| 22:02.28 | greatoak | So, I have sda and hda. I was sda1 to have the /etc mount. |
| 22:03.03 | Tupone | and what is the problem grub related? |
| 22:03.11 | greatoak | but for the life of me I cannot seem to locate information about how to get hda1=/ hda3=/boot and sda1=/etc |
| 22:03.19 | greatoak | does that make sense. |
| 22:03.28 | BearPerson | no |
| 22:03.35 | BearPerson | do you know /etc/fstab? |
| 22:03.42 | greatoak | I accidentally hit something that sent me back to login and therefore I had to "re-join" |
| 22:03.48 | greatoak | yes. |
| 22:03.53 | BearPerson | what does it do? |
| 22:04.03 | greatoak | That is also why I am working if it is even possible. |
| 22:04.05 | creeperz | f stab!!! |
| 22:04.09 | creeperz | stab the f! |
| 22:04.13 | BearPerson | hehe |
| 22:04.32 | greatoak | fstab is where the mount points are defined. |
| 22:04.37 | BearPerson | the fstab tells the system where to mount stuff. In the beginning only / was mounted. |
| 22:04.44 | BearPerson | see the trouble yet? |
| 22:04.45 | creeperz | file system... |
| 22:04.48 | greatoak | yes. |
| 22:04.51 | creeperz | tab... |
| 22:04.53 | creeperz | :-) |
| 22:05.02 | creeperz | whatever the tab means... i forgot |
| 22:05.04 | creeperz | table |
| 22:05.09 | greatoak | I was just winderif it was possible to put /etc on another mount point... |
| 22:05.15 | BearPerson | nope |
| 22:05.17 | creeperz | file system table |
| 22:05.18 | BearPerson | has to be the same |
| 22:05.29 | greatoak | I am thinking it "must" be possible... otherwise how do net boots work? |
| 22:05.36 | greatoak | ditto LDAP? |
| 22:05.39 | BearPerson | by initrd |
| 22:05.40 | greatoak | you know what I mean? |
| 22:06.00 | greatoak | initrd? |
| 22:06.05 | BearPerson | I suppose if the initrd knows enough info it might pull it off |
| 22:06.11 | greatoak | is that related to mkinitrd? |
| 22:06.15 | BearPerson | probably |
| 22:06.23 | greatoak | hmmm.... |
| 22:06.31 | greatoak | I guess back to google eh? ;) |
| 22:06.51 | BearPerson | the initrd (initial ram disk) is a file loaded for the kernel to boot into that includes code to get the system up before any filesystems are mounted |
| 22:07.11 | BearPerson | It makes it possible for the driver of / to be a module |
| 22:07.21 | BearPerson | and would also enable your fun stuff probably |
| 22:08.22 | BearPerson | but it would maybe need a custom initrd... or very good premade ones |
| 22:09.05 | greatoak | thank you. :) I think it may be too deep for me. |
| 22:09.35 | greatoak | I may just have to deal with the fact that I can't do it without tons of "new" (2 me) knowledge. |
| 22:09.37 | BearPerson | The usual places you can put on other partitions are /root, /home, /usr, /var and /tmp |
| 22:09.48 | BearPerson | I think |
| 22:10.32 | BearPerson | yeah, the others (/etc, /bin, /sbin, /lib) have to stay |
| 22:10.38 | greatoak | hmm... just hada thought... I don't recall seeing /etc in the "install" drop down for disk druid.... |
| 22:13.55 | greatoak | thank you again BearPerson. I appreciate it. It surprises me that in my couple of hours woth of looking and reading I didn't see anything specifically state certain root |
| 22:14.50 | greatoak | partitions have to be located on the / partition. I am not doubting you in ANY way... I am just disappointed that they (the mythical "they") wouldn't state such somewhere. |
| 22:19.05 | BearPerson | it's just that these paths are usually needed to make mount work, so... |
| 22:19.35 | BearPerson | /etc for the config, /bin and /sbin for programs used during boot, /lib for the dynamic libraries they include |
| 22:20.38 | greatoak | right, and it makes absolute sense... Just kind of a bummer cause the SCSI (SATA) controller I am using wouldn't be recognized automatically by the installer. |
| 22:21.10 | greatoak | so, no sda1 (RAID1) for /etc. :( |
| 22:21.27 | BearPerson | strictly spoken /usr has to be assumed not to be there until network is up, but most distributions ignore that |
| 22:21.27 | greatoak | but I appreciate your educational information. :) |
| 22:21.32 | BearPerson | anytime :) |
| 22:21.51 | BearPerson | (wow.. that fits... 00:21 in the morning here) |
| 22:23.02 | greatoak | hmmm? you must be England or Western Europe. |
| 22:26.10 | BearPerson | germany |
| 22:28.46 | greatoak | ah... Only visited there once. (very long time ago) |
| 22:29.21 | greatoak | I must admit... I miss Europe. (lived there a few years, parents in the military) |
| 22:33.45 | greatoak | Thanks again. I gotta log off. Get some sleep. |
| 22:34.02 | BearPerson | thanks |
| 22:35.06 | *** part/#bzflag greatoak (~43883ae7@webchat.bzflag.bz) |
| 22:43.00 | techman | Dude! It's 5 something pm and my debian machine HD is running like mad again 8-0 |
| 22:43.09 | techman | I gotta set teh clock |
| 22:57.47 | Thumper_ | what's the syntax for 'bzfs -poll var=value' to allow polling for kick/ban of players but not set variable polls? |
| 22:59.25 | *** join/#bzflag doughecka_ (~Doug@adsl-18-102-241.sdf.bellsouth.net) |
| 23:06.25 | blast007 | Thumper_: I believe there is a group permission called POLLSET that controls whether users can call for variable polls |
| 23:15.23 | *** join/#bzflag wegstar (~foo@wegstar.user.allegro) |
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| 23:32.55 | techman | Would I be assuming correctly that I need to apt-get something in order to do file print sharing linux to windows and windows to linux? |
| 23:34.18 | blast007 | probably samba |
| 23:35.21 | blast007 | http://us1.samba.org/samba/what_is_samba.html |
| 23:35.29 | Thumper_ | blast007: thx - I assume the POLL priv is everything?, hmmm I have VERIFED: vote but it still has poll, pollset, ... privs |
| 23:36.18 | techman | Is that the best, as in easy for me, to use/setup? |
| 23:38.54 | blast007 | samba is the only one I'm familiar with, and it's easy to use |
| 23:39.04 | blast007 | plenty of documentation on it |
| 23:39.10 | techman | kool Thanks :D |
| 23:39.44 | blast007 | Thumper_: I'm not sure what effects the POLL permission has |
| 23:40.20 | techman | I want to be able to allow priveleged windows boxes to be able to add remove files from the directory I'm hosting on apache2 |
| 23:41.19 | Legoguy | techman: samba is basically _the only_ Windows/CIFS server for linux. It should be able to do that but note that Windows does not support the same permissions model that Unix like environments do. |
| 23:43.49 | Thumper_ | My group db has 'VERIFIED: vote' - but the server /groupperms shows vote, poll, pollSet, ... |
| 23:44.39 | Thumper_ | I thought that used to restricted verified players to voting only... |
| 23:44.53 | techman | ah. well. Hopefully the fact that i pointed apache2 to a directory for a regular user 'not root' means it will go without a hitch. |
| 23:45.16 | Legoguy | have there ever been thoughts of allowing animation/triggers in maps, kind of like raising platforms in the original DOOM when you step on them? |
| 23:50.32 | blast007 | Legoguy: people have discussed it, but the issue would be sychronizing the motion across multiple clients |
| 23:52.21 | blast007 | example: if a tank had lag, and was sitting on a downward moving platform, the tank might appear to float just above the platform |
| 23:52.41 | Thumper_ | ok so my question becomes... 'how do I remove PollSet from the VERIFIED: group' I have 'VERIFIED: vote' in my groupdb |
| 23:52.58 | Thumper_ | but the server still adds poll* privs to verified |
