| 00:00.01 | uso_w | M1: ah, ok |
| 00:00.10 | brlcad | she called me a ho.. *gasp*, well i never! |
| 00:00.22 | Aribeth | s/ho/hi |
| 00:00.29 | Aribeth | :( |
| 00:00.30 | brlcad | ;) |
| 00:01.15 | Pimpi | M1: configure with --prefix=$HOME and use make install |
| 00:01.33 | M1 | uh-oh... "./bin/bzflag: error while loading shared libraries: libssl.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or director" |
| 00:01.33 | brlcad | heh |
| 00:01.56 | JeffM2501 | you linked to a ssl verison of libcurl |
| 00:02.39 | M1 | I disabled with --disable-curl |
| 00:02.52 | JeffM2501 | dosn't look like it |
| 00:03.45 | uso_w | check it with ldd ./bin/bzflag |
| 00:04.07 | M1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:04.07 | M1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:04.07 | M1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:04.07 | M1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:04.07 | M1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:04.08 | M1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:04.10 | M1 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 00:04.12 | M1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:04.14 | M1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:04.16 | M1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:04.18 | M1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:04.21 | uso_w | there's a libcurl ;) |
| 00:04.24 | M1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:04.26 | M1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:04.28 | M1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:04.30 | M1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:04.32 | M1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:04.34 | M1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:04.35 | Pimpi | it's ok... |
| 00:04.36 | M1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:04.38 | M1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:04.40 | M1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:04.42 | M1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:04.44 | M1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:04.46 | M1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:04.48 | M1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:04.49 | Pimpi | ~pastebin |
| 00:04.50 | ibot | i guess pastebin is a place to paste your stuff without flooding the channel - try http://pastebin.ca |
| 00:04.50 | M1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:04.52 | uso_w | no need for posting it here |
| 00:04.54 | M1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:04.56 | M1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:04.58 | M1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:05.00 | M1 | that is a fake one I made myself |
| 00:05.02 | M1 | pointing to version 3 |
| 00:05.50 | Pimpi | you might need to make clean |
| 00:06.00 | uso_w | but if you cvompile with --disable-curl it should not be there at all |
| 00:06.09 | M1 | ok |
| 00:06.13 | M1 | let me try again |
| 00:08.07 | M1 | "./configure --disable-curl" worked ok... |
| 00:08.20 | M1 | making ... |
| 00:09.05 | uso_w | is there a platform bzflag is build on which does not know snprintf? |
| 00:09.35 | Pimpi | don't think so there are already a lot of snprintfs |
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| 00:10.19 | Pimpi | M1: look at the output while making, it should at least rebuild some files |
| 00:10.35 | uso_w | have seen #ifdef WIN snprintf #else sprintf 's, that's why i ask |
| 00:10.43 | Pimpi | if not make clean before making it again |
| 00:10.51 | DTRemenak | uso_w: there should not be any more of those |
| 00:11.26 | uso_w | should :) |
| 00:11.47 | uso_w | find src -name '*.cxx'|xargs grep sprintf|wc -l ==> 150 |
| 00:12.11 | M1 | "make clean" was done |
| 00:12.20 | DTRemenak | no, there should not be any more cases where it uses sprintf on one platform and snprintf on another |
| 00:12.44 | uso_w | ah, ok :) |
| 00:12.45 | DTRemenak | sprintf and snprintf are both used |
| 00:14.09 | M1 | seems that " --disable-curl" did not work |
| 00:14.28 | M1 | curl lib is still linked |
| 00:16.54 | M1 | sigh... |
| 00:17.12 | Aribeth | thats why i dumped red hat |
| 00:17.56 | uso_w | it's more the admin of the box to dump :) |
| 00:17.59 | M1 | so other linux has better consistency? |
| 00:18.44 | bzflagwiz_ | uso_w: can you use sprintf(foo, "%.5s", bar) instead of snprintf if necessary? |
| 00:18.46 | Aribeth | red hat had a habit of installing headers, but would leave you to install the devel packages |
| 00:19.35 | Pimpi | devel is headers (and prolly .a) |
| 00:19.40 | uso_w | bzflagwiz_: necessary for what? |
| 00:19.50 | Aribeth | s/headers/packages |
| 00:20.45 | uso_w | bzflagwiz_: goal is to use snprintf instead of sprintf |
| 00:20.49 | bzflagwiz_ | you asked about snprintf possibly not working on some platforms... |
| 00:21.08 | bzflagwiz_ | sorry - that's what I get for not reading further back in conversation :( |
| 00:23.01 | Pimpi | M1: talking about good and not that good distributions is similar to discussions about religion and belief... |
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| 00:24.31 | M1 | hehe |
| 00:25.02 | M1 | just because I am not the admin... |
| 00:25.18 | M1 | or it will be an easy case ;) |
| 00:25.22 | uso_w | i was looking a bit into sources as my serverlist is scrambled every time i first access server menu |
| 00:26.08 | uso_w | looks like a memory issue and sprintf is often a cause for memory corruption |
| 00:28.20 | DTRemenak | uso_w: it has to do with the indices in the list cache, iirc |
| 00:28.56 | DTRemenak | if you turn off the cache does it work properly? |
| 00:30.25 | M1 | thx for the help, bye |
| 00:31.00 | uso_w | DTRemenak: it also happens if i had cleaned the cache before iirc |
| 00:31.32 | uso_w | DTRemenak: will check it at home (i'm behind a firewall here, can not check it now) |
| 00:32.37 | uso_w | DTRemenak: you are right, i may have seen this #ifdef WIN32 's on the 1_10 branch, on HEAD they are gone |
| 00:32.59 | DTRemenak | yeah, that's one of the things we were cleaning |
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| 00:44.12 | uso_w | what does a string1 += string2 do on C++? realloc memory or only a strcat? |
| 00:45.22 | uso_w | string1 is a std::string, string2 is char[nn] |
| 00:47.52 | brlcad | depends if you've overloaded the += operator, otherwise it's up to the implementation |
| 00:48.33 | uso_w | love that :) |
| 00:49.19 | brlcad | if you're really good at reading stl, you can generally read the header to see what the particular implementation does |
| 00:53.43 | uso_w | i'm not at all good in C++, never have used it so far ;) |
| 00:54.54 | uso_w | so what to do to avoid an overflow of string1? falling back to C functions? or does C++ have a better (saver) way to concatenate strings? |
| 00:57.24 | Pimpi | string &operator+=(const CharTypr *str) |
| 00:57.50 | Pimpi | thats how it's defined in c++ standatd |
| 00:58.17 | brlcad | overflow? |
| 00:58.29 | DTRemenak | uso_w: += is guaranteed to be safe |
| 00:58.37 | brlcad | you don't have to worry about memory management of std::strings |
| 00:58.42 | Pimpi | adds string2 to string1 |
| 00:58.50 | DTRemenak | that's half the point of using std::strings |
| 00:58.56 | uso_w | ok, that's what i wanted to know :) |
| 01:00.35 | Pimpi | though the standard is from 1998 and it usually takes 10 years before everybody recognized a standard... |
| 01:03.43 | uso_w | Pimpi: so there's still enough time to replace the strcpy's in bzflag :) |
| 01:07.52 | uso_w | is there any good book for starting C++ (with existing C knowledge)? |
| 01:08.09 | brlcad | stroustrup's book |
| 01:08.17 | uso_w | the Stroustrup seems to more a novel than a fact book |
| 01:08.25 | uso_w | *to be |
| 01:09.25 | brlcad | it's a good reference |
| 01:10.25 | Thumper_ | SportChick: ping |
| 01:10.31 | Legoguy | is it a bug when whoever does /gameover is declared the "winner" of the game? i have a bot set up to count stuff and when it does /gameover bfzlag thinks it, the observing bot, won |
| 01:10.44 | Legoguy | bzflag* |
| 01:10.49 | brlcad | everyone's a winner |
| 01:12.13 | Pimpi | i found Herbert Schildt: C++The Complete Reference quite useful |
| 01:13.20 | Pimpi | it doesn't really cover OOD though |
| 01:13.27 | brlcad | uso_w: if you want simple language facts, you can find that on-line |
| 01:13.34 | brlcad | you don't need a book if that's all you want |
| 01:14.04 | brlcad | if you want to learn c++, though, that's one (of several) good books you can start with |
| 01:14.36 | brlcad | it's one of the few c++ books i've continually reused over the years |
| 01:15.12 | uso_w | brlcad: i'm more looking for a how to do things in C++ (best) |
| 01:15.45 | brlcad | sounds like you don't even know c++ though |
| 01:16.11 | Pimpi | uso_w: there are always many ways to do things... |
| 01:16.26 | uso_w | especially because of the compatibility of C++ to C, so a C programmer is misleaded to do things the C way even in C++ |
| 01:16.40 | SportChick | Thumper_: pong |
| 01:17.22 | Pimpi | uso_w: you want a book about OOD, rather than c++ |
| 01:17.22 | uso_w | brlcad: i do not know C++, never used it |
| 01:17.32 | uso_w | although i can somewhat read it |
| 01:17.51 | uso_w | Pimpi: may be |
| 01:18.17 | Pimpi | hm, deutsch sprichst du auch, oder? |
| 01:18.25 | uso_w | ja |
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| 01:19.02 | LordSarpedon | greetss |
| 01:19.05 | trepan | uso_w: http://www.sgi.com/tech/stl/ (handy STL ref) |
| 01:19.12 | blast007 | LordSarpedon: hello :) |
| 01:19.25 | Pimpi | Herold/Klar/Klar, GoTo Objektorientierung, Addison Wesley |
| 01:19.45 | Pimpi | Ist vergriffen, vielleicht noch bei Karrasbuch |
| 01:20.05 | Pimpi | ich fands gut |
| 01:24.41 | uso_w | trepan: nice overview |
| 01:24.49 | uso_w | Pimpi: ja, mal schauen |
| 01:25.09 | uso_w | thanks to all |
| 01:26.08 | Pimpi | http://www.karrasbuch.de/product_info.php?cPath=21_30&products_id=2556&osCsid=53b4847c75f541952fcadaba837df9d0 |
| 01:26.25 | Pimpi | also nice |
| 01:27.41 | Pimpi | http://www.buch.de/buch/00860/462_go_to_objektorientierung.html |
| 01:35.50 | *** join/#bzflag spldart (~vircuser@cpe-67-10-210-195.houston.res.rr.com) |
| 01:36.07 | spldart | Good evening |
| 01:36.55 | spldart | WTF |
| 01:37.03 | spldart | who is the EVIL ONE |
| 01:37.49 | spldart | user name ':who:' |
| 01:38.14 | spldart | wait wHo |
| 01:38.18 | spldart | I want his ip |
| 01:38.29 | spldart | He bailed as I was typing playlist |
| 01:38.35 | spldart | I want to ban him |
| 01:39.21 | DTRemenak | you keep logs, right? |
| 01:39.38 | spldart | lemme post this up |
| 01:39.51 | spldart | logs? |
| 01:40.49 | uso_w | spldart: learn linux faster :) |
| 01:40.51 | DTRemenak | yeah, logs |
| 01:41.23 | spldart | http://spldart.bakadigital.com:91/wHo.jpg |
| 01:41.29 | brlcad | type faster? |
| 01:41.58 | spldart | How do I tell bzfs to keep logs? |
| 01:42.34 | DTRemenak | run bzfs -d -d -d > mylogfile |
| 01:43.23 | spldart | and who is "ws jews bake well in gas ovens"? |
| 01:43.31 | spldart | I want him banned too |
| 01:43.33 | spldart | but he bailed |
| 01:43.59 | spldart | Oh... Yeah |
| 01:44.09 | spldart | I can't do the log |
| 01:44.31 | spldart | crap I want my bzadmin to auto show IP's and log file :Mad: |
| 01:44.52 | trepan | spldart: think sgk284 was going to add that (same as for the client) |
| 01:45.27 | DTRemenak | and |who|'s ip is 24.214.92.149 if he's the same as the one that plays on biya's server and posts huge ascii art all the time |
| 01:45.39 | spldart | 12.158.242.12.... BAN |
| 01:46.00 | spldart | he is jews in gas ovens and he yelled racicst crap |
| 01:46.04 | spldart | I'm banning them now |
| 01:46.20 | spldart | lemme write the rules then I'll give you a screenshot of the racist crap |
| 01:46.22 | uso_w | trepan: does the client get ip adresses of all players? |
| 01:46.30 | trepan | no |
| 01:46.35 | spldart | thanksf ro the other ip DTR |
| 01:46.45 | menotume | spldart - that IP is a known troublemaker |
| 01:46.48 | trepan | only admin's get the ips of remote players |
| 01:46.59 | menotume | has used such callsigns since at least last August |
| 01:47.07 | DTRemenak | the antisemitic fellow uses a number of ips |
| 01:49.33 | spldart | should I ban a subnet or those direct IPs |
| 01:50.57 | spldart | http://spldart.bakadigital.com:91/bznazi.jpg |
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| 01:51.55 | LordSarpedon | Downloading one of the VC++ betas...might help |
| 01:53.44 | spldart | Is the anti semitic fellow bouncing around a subnet or all over the place. |
| 01:57.19 | spldart | Ok. Mr Nazi and Mr. Scrolling death are subnet banned by firewall |
| 01:58.32 | uso_w | what does subnet mean for you on a 12.*.*.* adress ;) |
| 01:59.19 | spldart | In the case of one 24.214.92.1 through 24.214.92.255 |
| 01:59.22 | spldart | Same with the other |
| 01:59.29 | spldart | In case they bounce around a bit. |
| 02:00.37 | cosmos | just be done with it ban 12.*.*.* and 24.*.*.* |
| 02:00.40 | cosmos | no loss |
| 02:00.48 | spldart | Really? |
| 02:00.57 | spldart | seems extreme |
| 02:00.59 | uso_w | why does the -filterCallsigns do not prevent login of such nicks? does this option work at all? |
| 02:01.15 | uso_w | cosmos: thats the right subnet mask :) |
| 02:01.17 | spldart | callsigns grabs names but not emails I've noticed |
| 02:01.38 | cosmos | do you have the words in your badwords file? |
| 02:01.43 | spldart | me? yes |
| 02:01.51 | cosmos | it should have then |
| 02:01.57 | spldart | And a guy with 'fuck' in his email still got through |
| 02:02.08 | spldart | But usernames get slammed |
| 02:02.18 | spldart | I tested that myself |
| 02:02.21 | spldart | Hrm |
| 02:02.23 | spldart | Weird |
| 02:04.49 | uso_w | it would be also a good idea to have an additional badnicks file to prevent callsigns which are not bad words but unwanted otherwise like SERVER |
| 02:08.08 | spldart | Just did |
| 02:08.56 | spldart | I have added jews, spics ni@@ers ovens arabs to my bad words list |
| 02:10.17 | cosmos | add linux in there |
| 02:10.21 | spldart | ? |
| 02:10.25 | cosmos | ;) |
| 02:10.29 | spldart | heh |
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| 02:19.18 | spldart | Are these to problem IP's known to operate together |
| 02:19.58 | spldart | I find it incredibly coincidental that the first time I find this problem after many hours of watching and they happend within minutes of each other |
| 02:20.13 | cosmos | your going to grow grey hair if you start hosting servers |
| 02:23.11 | spldart | I already have grey hair ;) |
| 02:24.22 | spldart | Anywho... I hope these pricks get added to the master ban list ASAP :( |
| 02:27.51 | brlcad | they have to cause trouble on the network in general (e.g. abuse multiple servers) |
| 02:28.07 | uso_w | it would be hard to have guys on inet providers with large adress ranges on the master list |
| 02:28.14 | brlcad | i'd say that's at least 3 servers |
| 02:32.29 | uso_w | somebody with such a nick does only need more than one server, if you can trust the server owner |
| 02:32.38 | uso_w | the proble is the dyn ip |
| 02:32.45 | uso_w | *problem |
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| 03:05.17 | scanline | 12.*.*.*? that's got to be 1/255th or so of the internet! :P |
| 03:05.54 | Thumper_ | Has rabbit mode changed recently so the Geno flag isn't allowed anymore? |
| 03:05.56 | bzflagwiz | from a "me an bzflag" point of view, it's the entire internet :) |
| 03:07.15 | spldart | geez.. Hepcat kicks my arse every time |
| 03:07.27 | bzflagwiz | Or if you *must* ban 12.*.*.*, at least set up a whitelist group for your server and add me to it :) |
| 03:08.12 | spldart | welll... I only banned n.n.n.* |
| 03:09.21 | spldart | Hah!... Just checked. They haven't been in again :mwuaahahahaha: |
| 03:10.41 | spldart | I keep scoring like (36x72) or some ish |
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| 04:33.38 | spldart | Night all |
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| 05:17.50 | uso | scanline: it's even more, because some ip ranges are reserved for special use |
| 05:18.27 | uso | DTRemenak: serverlist is ok if cache is completely switched off |
| 05:18.56 | scanline | uso: well duh, but I'm too lazy to look up exactly which IP blocks are actually in use, which are reserved, which haven't been allocated yet... |
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| 05:48.40 | SportChick | Nidhoggr: ping |
| 06:22.26 | orange | trepan: ping |
| 06:26.13 | orange | hmm, how about learner or brlcad ping? |
| 06:26.24 | DTRemenak | orange: pong |
| 06:26.30 | orange | lol |
| 06:26.35 | orange | pre-emptive pong |
| 06:26.38 | orange | packet out of order |
| 06:26.47 | DTRemenak | I was betting you'd have run down the list till you got to me |
| 06:26.50 | trepan | ding |
| 06:26.56 | orange | oooh, two for one |
| 06:27.11 | orange | actually DTRemenak, nothing personal, but I know trepan and learner worked on this feature |
| 06:27.23 | orange | trepan: with regards to the showips functionality... |
| 06:27.26 | orange | (which I love) |
| 06:27.26 | DTRemenak | heh :) |
| 06:27.42 | orange | could you easily expand it to show the IP addresses of *leaving* players? |
| 06:28.02 | trepan | you using the server window tab? |
| 06:28.07 | orange | yeah |
| 06:28.22 | trepan | still too much stuff there, heh? |
| 06:28.32 | orange | well, yeah, on 15v15 servers, it gets insane |
| 06:28.57 | orange | and it would be super helpful to see people rejoining with different names |
| 06:29.40 | trepan | you'd need to record the ips, not hard, but not something i'm gonna do today =) |
| 06:29.45 | trepan | (or mod the protocol, ick) |
| 06:30.38 | orange | hmmm |
| 06:30.54 | trepan | hm, how about a generic console highlighting feature? |
| 06:31.05 | orange | I guess by the time the server knows the person is leaving, it's too late? |
| 06:31.21 | trepan | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:31.38 | orange | interesting... could be a separate tab? |
| 06:32.18 | trepan | or a separate tab for ips... but that's shouldn't be much different from the server tab in this case |
| 06:32.30 | orange | no... unless you're doing lagstats and such a lot |
| 06:32.45 | orange | that's what really kills it on the big lists |
| 06:33.10 | orange | the gamekeeper player data for the player doesn't have the IP of the player who is leaving? |
| 06:33.27 | trepan | gamekeeper is server side |
| 06:33.41 | orange | ohh |
| 06:33.50 | orange | the showips is done client side? I didn't know that :-) |
| 06:34.06 | *** join/#bzflag exu (~exu@68-116-54-81.or.charter.com) |
| 06:34.21 | trepan | ip sent in MsgAdminInfo, picked up in playing.cxx/2622 |
| 06:35.46 | orange | MsgAdminInfo is only for joins? |
| 06:35.48 | trepan | could just record it, and dump it out again at MsgRemovePlayer |
| 06:36.36 | orange | yeah, but that seems like a lot of work when the server already knows |
| 06:36.43 | orange | perhaps at next protocol breaking release |
| 06:36.48 | trepan | seems like wasted bandwidth to send it twice |
| 06:37.52 | bzflagwiz | Of course if you're going to store and subsequently display ip info at client quit, you should also send the host info too |
| 06:38.31 | trepan | huh? |
| 06:38.51 | bzflagwiz | trepan: I meant the info you would use to do a host ban |
| 06:38.55 | DTRemenak | could just do the reverse dns lookup from the client itself |
| 06:39.12 | bzflagwiz | such as blah.blah.or.charter.com or whatever |
| 06:39.36 | orange | that could be done at join and part... assuming the non-blocking DNS works right... I thought I remembered seeing something like that |
| 06:40.01 | DTRemenak | yeah, ares could take care of it |
| 06:40.32 | orange | it would suck for your client to lock up every time someone joined :-) |
| 06:40.41 | bzflagwiz | resending at client quit might be nice too, because on occasion I may play under a different callsign, and then use /password to become admin... |
| 06:41.04 | trepan | you'll get the ips when you switch to admin |
| 06:41.04 | orange | or you just weren't there when they joined |
| 06:41.06 | DTRemenak | bzflagwiz: as soon as you become admin, you're sent all the ips |
| 06:41.13 | orange | ah |
| 06:41.15 | DTRemenak | but trepan types faster than I am :) |
| 06:41.20 | DTRemenak | err, than I do even |
| 06:41.30 | orange | it's a convenience point, for sure... the data is available |
| 06:41.39 | bzflagwiz | <gilda radner>NEVERMIND</gilda radner> |
| 06:42.17 | orange | see DTRemenak, that's why I was pinging trepan... I did my homework before I came here to ask :-) |
| 06:43.41 | DTRemenak | hehe :) |
| 06:43.51 | DTRemenak | ~trepan++ |
| 06:46.31 | orange | well, I thought it'd be super trivial, or I probably wouldn't have asked... it's definitely not a huge deal |
| 06:46.45 | orange | super trivial for you guys, anyway :-) |
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| 06:48.55 | uso | DTRemenak: in case you missed it, serverlist is ok if cache is completely disabled |
| 06:49.06 | DTRemenak | I got it :) |
| 06:49.13 | uso | ok :) |
| 06:49.31 | orange | someone in a game just suggested delayed flag respawn after capture... an interesting idea |
| 06:51.51 | uso | g'night all |
| 07:00.21 | orange | trepan, that was an accident... jomojo was testing |
| 07:11.13 | trepan | np, so was i =) |
| 07:11.36 | orange | just making sure... it's always a jolt to join a server and be kicked for no reason :-) |
| 07:11.59 | orange | trepan: I have another admin-helpful patch I wrote... want to look at it? |
| 07:12.37 | orange | it needs one change to make it more efficient, but it just involves moving one line in the file, I think |
| 07:12.50 | trepan | what is it? |
| 07:13.10 | orange | it highlights players' names in the scoreboard if their tk ratio is higher than a threshold you manually set in your config file |
| 07:13.18 | orange | set tkwarnratio 0.15 |
| 07:13.59 | orange | if you don't set that, you never see it, of course |
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| 10:28.17 | ToughShooter | https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=303248&aid=1178423&group_id=3248 |
| 10:28.50 | ToughShooter | This fixes generated poll options via "bzfs_conf.html" |
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| 13:32.34 | Grumbler | morning all |
| 13:33.22 | Grumbler | ~weather knak |
| 13:33.43 | Pimpi | hi Grumbler |
| 13:35.03 | Grumbler | "could not reconnect to viper.pimpi.org:512" heh, thought i was on the wrong channel there for a minute |
| 13:36.34 | _Manu_ | you mean port 5158? |
| 13:36.54 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03trepan * 10bzflag/src/ (8 files in 2 dirs): |
| 13:36.54 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: - added cheezy '/highlight [substr]' client command |
| 13:36.54 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: - added '/highlight' and '/localset' to the auto-completer |
| 13:36.54 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: - added ip printing for player departures (showips >= 2) |
| 13:36.55 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: - reverted the Downloads.cxx change |
| 13:36.55 | Grumbler | nah, some conversation on #debian |
| 13:36.55 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: (cached textures can be used even if downloading is disabled) |
| 13:37.20 | _Manu_ | k |
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| 13:38.18 | Grumbler | my small world doesnt expect to see viper.pimpi.org in any conversation other than bzflag |
| 13:39.37 | _Manu_ | i also can't connetc to viper.pimpi.org:512 ;) |
| 13:39.47 | _Manu_ | s/connetc/connect |
| 13:40.49 | _Manu_ | Pimpi, Hi! |
| 13:44.36 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03trepan * 10bzflag/src/bzflag/ControlPanel.cxx: efficiency |
| 13:52.58 | Birdie | one of the developers(who can masterban) ping |
| 14:00.05 | Grumbler | .....uh oh, someone is invoking master ban powers......this should be interesting |
| 14:02.34 | Birdie | bah its for redsox again |
| 14:02.40 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03trepan * 10bzflag/src/bzflag/ControlPanel.cxx: use glob patterns for highlighting (if * or ? are present) |
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| 14:08.20 | trepan | "/highlight grabbed Genocide flag" ... |
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| 14:36.16 | orange | ~trepan++ |
| 14:36.27 | orange | thanks trepan :-) |
| 14:37.39 | trepan | one sec ... switching to regex for highlight (simple word matching will still work) |
| 14:37.56 | orange | regexes rock |
| 14:38.18 | orange | I'll have to download from anon cvs in a few hours before I can get it |
| 14:38.58 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03trepan * 10bzflag/src/ (5 files in 2 dirs): |
| 14:38.58 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: - make the highlight pattern a persistent BZDB variable |
| 14:38.58 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: - use regex pattern matching instead of globbing for highlighting |
| 14:38.58 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: - fixed a regex memory leak |
| 14:39.06 | trepan | i prefer regex's flexibility too, but the average joe seems to have problems copying for point A to B |
| 14:39.37 | orange | well, the good news here is this won't be quite the average joe |
| 14:39.49 | orange | hopefully at least the admins can follow simple recipes |
| 14:39.58 | trepan | "/highlight Genocide" will still work |
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| 14:53.03 | Grumbler | morning SportChick |
| 14:53.23 | Grumbler | ditto trepan ....tupone |
| 14:54.43 | Birdie | hey sportchick |
| 15:07.58 | SportChick | good morning grumbler and birdie |
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| 15:25.37 | tupone | hey Chikorita :) |
| 15:31.06 | Chikorita | ciao tupo |
| 15:32.54 | tupone | :)) |
| 15:34.57 | Chikorita | ;) |
| 15:35.36 | tupone | I agree, where are you going? I'll join |
| 15:35.47 | tupone | still at work :( |
| 15:35.58 | Chikorita | awn |
| 15:37.24 | Chikorita | any1 near marina del rey? |
| 15:39.26 | tupone | california? |
| 15:39.34 | Chikorita | ya |
| 15:39.43 | tupone | not so near :( |
| 15:40.03 | Chikorita | tis ok ;) |
| 15:40.42 | Chikorita | im not so near ther too |
| 15:40.43 | tupone | about 10000 miles |
| 15:40.54 | Chikorita | @3000 miles for mee |
| 15:41.32 | tupone | well, seen from Alpha centauri we are nearby |
| 15:41.52 | Chikorita | heehe |
| 15:42.32 | Chikorita | wow itz so nice here 2day |
| 15:42.42 | Chikorita | spring iz finally here |
| 15:42.46 | Chikorita | phew |
| 15:42.49 | Chikorita | =) |
| 15:43.02 | tupone | here instead is a lot crowded |
| 15:43.07 | Chikorita | o |
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| 15:43.21 | magnetic | hi |
| 15:43.25 | Chikorita | hi |
| 15:43.27 | blast007 | hello |
| 15:44.32 | magnetic | we got hooked to bzflag in the office |
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| 15:45.31 | isaac | magnetic: foo |
| 15:45.39 | magnetic | do fancy a game ;) |
| 15:45.44 | magnetic | you |
| 15:52.02 | menotume | Chestal: player count bug and missing flag just ocurred at Ducati (v2.0.3) |
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| 15:53.32 | menotume | screencap available if needed |
| 15:54.10 | Chestal | the player counts are off now |
| 15:54.32 | Chestal | 1 red/1 green, but there are actually 4/4 I think |
| 15:54.42 | menotume | it was 6-4 :) |
| 15:54.44 | Chestal | eh, shows 1/2 and 4/4 would be correct |
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| 15:54.53 | orange | that's been happening at hepcat a lot |
| 15:54.56 | _Manu_ | the missing flag is because the wrong counters.. |
| 15:54.56 | menotume | 6 red, 4 green |
| 15:54.59 | Chestal | so the data inconsistency probably happened much earlier |
| 15:55.13 | menotume | dunnno - was like that when I joined |
| 15:55.36 | Chestal | flag will probably vanish again if one red leaves |
| 15:55.40 | _Manu_ | well if happens usually in full servers :( |
| 15:55.56 | Birdie | its 5vs4 again on ducati |
| 15:56.27 | menotume | ohhh, i see, it thinks the last teammember leaves, so there goes flag |
| 15:56.30 | Chestal | guess it's tiem to add some instrumentation to the code |
| 15:56.51 | Chestal | for starters, the teamcounts whenever they change etc. |
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| 15:57.07 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o TimRiker] by ChanServ |
| 15:57.16 | menotume | hellos Tim |
| 15:57.27 | Chestal | sadly, it takes hours to recopile bzfs :-( |
| 15:57.46 | menotume | wow |
| 15:58.21 | TimRiker | you should try a computer instead of a brick then. :) |
| 15:58.31 | Chestal | it's good enough for bzfs |
| 15:58.39 | Chestal | I used to compile it on my desktop machine, then copy it over |
| 15:58.43 | Birdie | the stupid thing is, if its 5vs3, i cant join green, when i'm red |
| 15:58.45 | Chestal | but that stopped working at some point |
| 15:58.55 | Birdie | (5red 3 green) |
| 15:59.10 | menotume | even you you only change bzfs.cxx, it takes so long to compile ? |
| 15:59.13 | Chestal | only server restart can fix it I assume? Or maybe when everyone leaves that is sufficient? |
| 15:59.24 | menotume | dunno |
| 15:59.25 | _Manu_ | superkill is enought |
| 15:59.27 | Birdie | superkill? |
| 15:59.30 | Birdie | k |
| 15:59.46 | Chestal | menotume: maybe not, but I usually do cvs up anyway before I compile |
| 16:00.20 | menotume | ahhhh |
| 16:00.29 | menotume | hmmm, I'm not admin for some reason |
| 16:00.44 | Chestal | that bug is so annoying, that I am so close to start and try to find it :-) |
| 16:00.51 | _Manu_ | heh |
| 16:00.54 | menotume | lol |
| 16:01.38 | menotume | and, after the SK, i'm admin again - strange |
| 16:01.41 | _Manu_ | i found something.. but not enought for fixing it.. there are some bad thing in the server code :( |
| 16:01.46 | Chestal | my worst nightmare is that it is somehow caused by a race condition and strange player slot states, that's quite a mess |
| 16:02.10 | Chestal | this also causes the 'dual map' problem |
| 16:02.30 | menotume | debug code to dump pertinant slot info ? |
| 16:02.56 | _Manu_ | also some times clients keeps his connections to the server.. and slots are keeping ocuped |
| 16:02.59 | Chestal | I don't know how the player counts are handled, would start there then see which information is useful |
| 16:03.10 | TimRiker | dual map problem? |
| 16:03.27 | Chestal | TimRiker: with random maps, soemtimes one player sees different maps than other players |
| 16:03.44 | TimRiker | Chestal: wild. never seen that myself. |
| 16:03.52 | Chestal | happens when there is a lot of coming and going and when server is empty at some point of time |
| 16:03.57 | _Manu_ | Chestal, lol |
| 16:04.00 | Chestal | it;s a bug in removePlayer() |
| 16:04.04 | Chestal | but not easy to fix |
| 16:04.27 | _Manu_ | also the rejectPlayer() is wrong.. :( |
| 16:05.08 | Chestal | the map bug is an ancient one, though |
| 16:05.31 | Chestal | the player count bug is new with 2.0 (or maybe 1.11.x) |
| 16:05.55 | _Manu_ | well, i think this bug is not new.. |
| 16:06.05 | Chestal | it never happened in 1.10 to me |
| 16:06.21 | menotume | Seems new - is happening at other servers too |
| 16:06.23 | _Manu_ | no, because 1.10 not working as the 2.0 |
| 16:06.25 | Chestal | and with current code, it hapens every few days |
| 16:07.21 | _Manu_ | yes, it happens usually when a server is full |
| 16:08.04 | _Manu_ | and ppl trying connecting/rejoining |
| 16:08.25 | Chestal | has anyne tried to reproduce it on a test server? |
| 16:08.32 | Chestal | that would help debugging in greatly |
| 16:08.33 | _Manu_ | yes, but no luck |
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| 16:09.05 | _Manu_ | i can see in server logs some weird things.. all net related |
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| 16:09.50 | _Manu_ | but can't reproduce it.. only seen in real play |
| 16:11.17 | _Manu_ | also i can see when a player taking a slot with index higher than max team players + observers = problems starts :( |
| 16:12.04 | _Manu_ | also from the client side.. if you are using a slot index over the limit.. max server players + max observers |
| 16:12.20 | _Manu_ | the @ is not showed.. it means isAdmin() is false :( |
| 16:12.37 | Chestal | uhm |
| 16:12.39 | _Manu_ | for the client.. but you can use admin commands |
| 16:12.53 | _Manu_ | something is missed in the code i thing |
| 16:12.56 | _Manu_ | think.. |
| 16:13.02 | Chestal | I am not familiar with how it is supposed to work exactly |
| 16:13.19 | Chestal | is there still a hard upper limit for the slots like team+obscount? |
| 16:13.26 | _Manu_ | at now.. i have no enought time for revise it :( |
| 16:13.30 | Chestal | I know there is a dynamic 'highest used slot' variable |
| 16:13.36 | _Manu_ | but his is making me fool :( |
| 16:13.41 | _Manu_ | s/his/this |
| 16:13.58 | _Manu_ | yes there is one |
| 16:14.18 | _Manu_ | and the server in the checks is using differents criterias in differents parts of the code |
| 16:15.03 | menotume | would a modded bzadmin (ability to join as red/green) help for reproducing the prob ? |
| 16:15.14 | menotume | could set up script to randomly join |
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| 16:16.09 | Chestal | menotume: hmm, maybe |
| 16:16.26 | menotume | i'll look for it |
| 16:16.31 | orange | the map bug may be the same bug, right? |
| 16:16.34 | _Manu_ | menotume, i tried but all was ok for me.. unable to reproduce it |
| 16:16.40 | menotume | ohh |
| 16:16.41 | Chestal | orange: hmm, maybe :-) |
| 16:16.48 | orange | if the "last" player leaves (even though players still exist) then the server generates a new map |
| 16:16.52 | _Manu_ | perhaps because a net problem..under some conditions |
| 16:16.54 | orange | existing players keep the old map, new players get the new one |
| 16:17.12 | Chestal | orange: yes, map bug means that a new map is created after the first player already got a new one |
| 16:17.29 | orange | seems quite likely it is the same bug then (to my untrained eye :-) |
| 16:17.31 | Chestal | orange: IIRC it is caused by an early exit in removePlayer(), but that is there for a reason |
| 16:17.44 | menotume | _Manu_: yes, perhhaps the server is expecting some kind of msg from the client, that it doesn't get |
| 16:17.56 | Chestal | orange: I don't know, the map bug happens when first two players join, but the empty server resets the player counts |
| 16:18.00 | orange | playercounts, maps, missing flags, all because the server has bad counts |
| 16:18.12 | _Manu_ | menotume, too many times the server is expecting some kind of msg from the client ;) |
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| 16:18.40 | orange | this has been going on a long time, if so, because I've had mismatched maps on my server over a year ago |
| 16:18.42 | _Manu_ | menotume, this is because the rejectPlayer() server trust the client.. and that's bad |
| 16:18.50 | menotume | heh, i mean does it handle thing correctly if it doesn't get it (lost connection) |
| 16:18.54 | Chestal | orange: yes, that map bug is old |
| 16:18.58 | menotume | gotya |
| 16:19.04 | Chestal | orange: was already in 1.7 (at least the later versions) |
| 16:19.35 | menotume | some cleanup if connection lost ? |
| 16:20.33 | menotume | perhpas caused by a [nr] |
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| 16:20.44 | fabianne | hi |
| 16:20.50 | blast007 | fabianne: hi |
| 16:20.51 | menotume | hellos hippie |
| 16:20.54 | fabianne | where is my future luvluv? |
| 16:21.33 | JeffM2501 | guu seen brlcad |
| 16:21.34 | guu | JeffM2501: brlcad was last seen here 13 hours, 53 minutes, and 19 seconds ago saying: <brlcad> i'd say that's at least 3 servers |
| 16:21.48 | fabianne | lol* ;) thanks. |
| 16:21.55 | JeffM2501 | sure, anytime :0 |
| 16:22.06 | JeffM2501 | is it time to go home yet? |
| 16:22.07 | fabianne | haha sweeet |
| 16:22.18 | fabianne | depends where is home to you |
| 16:22.30 | JeffM2501 | I can see my house from here |
| 16:22.38 | fabianne | jeff you should join #hug-bunny |
| 16:22.43 | JeffM2501 | I should? |
| 16:22.48 | fabianne | i think you should |
| 16:22.54 | fabianne | we never know till you try it |
| 16:22.58 | fabianne | would we? |
| 16:23.44 | JeffM2501 | well I have tried a lot of things |
| 16:24.02 | fabianne | well.. so how does it taste? |
| 16:24.11 | JeffM2501 | furry |
| 16:24.24 | fabianne | depend from wich side you try it.. |
| 16:24.29 | JeffM2501 | oh |
| 16:24.34 | JeffM2501 | should probalby flip it over then |
| 16:25.09 | jpa- | or remove the furr first |
| 16:25.43 | jpa- | bunnies are best when you remove the furry part and cook them, not good raw |
| 16:36.01 | jpa- | hm? |
| 16:36.11 | JeffM2501 | just a passing observation |
| 16:36.41 | jpa- | is "mock the dead" some common phrase or does it mean "say evil things about dead people" |
| 16:37.14 | JeffM2501 | poke fun at |
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| 16:48.01 | prop | jpa-, the sniper server is missing blue flag |
| 16:49.11 | jpa- | hmmmm |
| 16:49.16 | ruskie | :) |
| 16:49.23 | ruskie | kinda hard to cap with no flag :)) |
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| 16:51.49 | jpa- | prop: fixed |
| 16:55.24 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10admin/master-bans.txt: updated redsoxfan IPs, after his removal from guleauge |
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| 17:05.41 | TimRiker | ~httpdtype www.tropheesdulibre.org |
| 17:06.20 | CBG | hi all :) |
| 17:06.42 | CBG | How can I put bot like guu in my channel? |
| 17:07.05 | JeffM2501 | you run one |
| 17:07.11 | JeffM2501 | on some dedicated machine |
| 17:07.29 | CBG | oh... so in other words: I dont. |
| 17:07.29 | ruskie | CBG, you a) get a shell account somewhere(can be your own box) b) get a bot(eggdrop, rbot, darkbot, etcc...) c) configure it to join your channel d) and presto |
| 17:07.32 | ToughShooter | CBG: Did you solved your problem with pyBzEdit? |
| 17:07.39 | JeffM2501 | or ask me nice |
| 17:07.49 | JeffM2501 | what did you need a bot for? |
| 17:07.53 | JeffM2501 | what projcet? |
| 17:07.58 | TimRiker | they sent me an invitation to participate in an awards program for open source software. The email was written in Microsoft Outlook, in HTML format with gif and jpeg images attached. The mime types for the attachements were incorrect, and the web site was not a link. When I finally go there I get an error instead of a valid page. How much trust would you put in the awards? |
| 17:08.00 | ruskie | <-- has a bot running amok on freenode as well |
| 17:08.15 | JeffM2501 | CBG, what project is it for? |
| 17:08.18 | CBG | TimRiker, LOL! |
| 17:08.20 | ruskie | TimRiker, lol |
| 17:08.22 | jpa- | TimRiker: :) |
| 17:08.33 | CBG | JeffM its not a project, i just wan guu on #KAS :) |
| 17:08.38 | JeffM2501 | oh |
| 17:08.52 | Grumbler | TimRiker< its a microsoft trap.....you are now on their list. |
| 17:09.01 | JeffM2501 | well this network is for projects and the associated comunitys |
| 17:09.03 | ruskie | CBG, if you want I can add my own bot there as well :) |
| 17:09.04 | CBG | ToughShooter: no. I am hand-coding maps now... :) |
| 17:09.08 | JeffM2501 | whats' the channel for? |
| 17:09.16 | CBG | ruskie: whats it do? |
| 17:09.18 | TimRiker | the invite claims to have quite a few talented folks as the judges. (many of whom I know personally :) |
| 17:09.22 | ruskie | plays roullete |
| 17:09.24 | ToughShooter | CGB: Aww. What's the problem? |
| 17:09.32 | ruskie | kills shoots kisses and some other stuff |
| 17:09.33 | ToughShooter | I've got it working correct for me |
| 17:09.34 | CBG | JeffM: KAS is my gu.de league team.... |
| 17:09.39 | Grumbler | TimRiker< then its definitely a trap |
| 17:09.41 | CBG | ruckie: sounds good |
| 17:09.47 | JeffM2501 | ToughShooter, the GL would not install on OSX |
| 17:09.48 | TimRiker | Grumbler: =) |
| 17:09.50 | jpa- | TimRiker: they've got your friends too! |
| 17:09.51 | ruskie | I'll have it joined in a bit... |
| 17:09.55 | ruskie | erm a long bit |
| 17:09.59 | TimRiker | jpa-: eeek! ;-) |
| 17:10.08 | CBG | Tough Shooter: I cant work out how to install puOpenGL and Numeric... |
| 17:10.13 | JeffM2501 | yes guu does not do roulete. it's abbuses are to great |
| 17:10.14 | ruskie | atm the box it's running on is being upgraded to hopefully solve my packet loss problem |
| 17:11.07 | CBG | cool. thanks |
| 17:11.46 | ToughShooter | CBG: Did you installed wxPython successfully? |
| 17:11.58 | CBG | ToughShooter: I dunno... |
| 17:12.05 | CBG | One sec. |
| 17:12.36 | CBG | ToughShooter: I think not... :( |
| 17:16.46 | ToughShooter | Do you have any experience with Terminal.app? |
| 17:16.54 | CBG | a bit... |
| 17:16.59 | CBG | I can get bzfs to run... |
| 17:17.04 | ToughShooter | Meaning how to use su and sudo |
| 17:17.16 | CBG | su? sudo? umm... what? |
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| 17:17.44 | JeffM2501 | change to the root user |
| 17:17.59 | CBG | the Admin account? |
| 17:18.05 | JeffM2501 | the root user |
| 17:18.10 | ToughShooter | Do you use the admin account? |
| 17:18.11 | CBG | ...?? |
| 17:18.11 | JeffM2501 | are you an admin on the system? |
| 17:18.15 | CBG | I am the admin... |
| 17:18.20 | CBG | I am on the admin account... |
| 17:18.35 | JeffM2501 | then you can sudo |
| 17:18.39 | ToughShooter | JeffM2501: admin account can get root rights via sudo |
| 17:18.40 | CBG | whats it mean? |
| 17:18.49 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 17:18.50 | TimRiker | "sudo /bin/bash" |
| 17:19.04 | TimRiker | ~rootshell |
| 17:19.05 | ibot | root@blootbot:~# |
| 17:19.19 | ToughShooter | Let's try to install to instally pyOpenGL first. Download it from http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/pyopengl/PyOpenGL-2.0.1.09.tar.gz?download |
| 17:19.29 | CBG | i think i d/l it. |
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| 17:19.47 | CBG | yeah |
| 17:19.50 | CBG | i have it. |
| 17:19.51 | JeffM2501 | perhaps you guys can do it in a /msg |
| 17:20.58 | CBG | LOL |
| 17:21.05 | CBG | try 4:1 |
| 17:24.15 | TimRiker | aw. and it was entertaining me so. |
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| 17:28.29 | JeffM2501 | I'm sure you can get them to make a #owtoinstallpythononamac |
| 17:28.46 | JeffM2501 | or hey, it's your channel here |
| 17:32.30 | ToughShooter | TimRiker: ;-) |
| 17:32.51 | CBG | TimRiker: Grr. |
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| 17:37.30 | CBG | ~slap TimRiker |
| 17:37.32 | ibot | ACTION slaps TimRiker, keep your grubby fingers to yourself! |
| 17:40.53 | ToughShooter | ~x de en angepasst |
| 17:41.47 | fabianne | ich habe keine ahnung |
| 17:44.29 | CBG | Ich habe einen Begriff! |
| 17:45.15 | fabianne | schnipp schaaaa schnappi |
| 17:45.50 | fabianne | wie auch immer... |
| 17:46.30 | CBG | gehen Sie auf... |
| 17:47.02 | fabianne | ich muss mein baby ins bett bringen.. |
| 17:47.50 | CBG | Warum würden Sie Ihr Baby im Bett holen. |
| 17:47.58 | fabianne | bringen... |
| 17:48.06 | fabianne | weil er ist muede |
| 17:48.09 | fabianne | müde |
| 17:48.48 | Pimpi | muß ne Seuche sein, meiner ist mir auf dem Arm eingeschlafen |
| 17:49.13 | fabianne | passiert manchmal |
| 17:49.22 | Pimpi | fast eine Stunde bevor er sonst schläft |
| 17:49.27 | CBG | Sagen gute Nacht von mir! |
| 17:49.29 | CBG | :) |
| 17:49.32 | fabianne | lol |
| 17:50.09 | CBG | (btw: sorry If my german is bad, I use the google translator!) |
| 17:50.23 | fabianne | so, jetz ins bad und splitch splatch ... ganz sauber ist das kleiner baby |
| 17:50.32 | CBG | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:50.32 | fabianne | im not using it i live here and my german SUCKS! |
| 17:50.34 | fabianne | :D |
| 17:50.39 | CBG | LOL :D |
| 17:51.01 | fabianne | so actuall yur german is like mine lol :p |
| 17:51.06 | CBG | :D lol |
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| 18:29.50 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03dtremenak * 10bzflag/misc/bzfs_conf.html: Accept sf patch 1178243 from t-s. Correct configuration file builder for -vote* x -> -poll vote*=x. |
| 18:32.23 | ToughShooter | :) |
| 18:32.40 | DTRemenak | :) |
| 18:35.06 | CBG | whats all the :)ing about? |
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| 18:35.56 | ToughShooter | CGB: DTRemanak checked in one of my patches into CVS |
| 18:36.05 | ToughShooter | err, Remenak |
| 18:36.14 | CBG | oookay.. :) |
| 18:36.41 | CBG | For a free shop thinglike cafepress, is cafepress the best way to go? Or is there a better alternative? |
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| 18:40.44 | Birdie | if people join a server with a registered name(on bzbb), but they dont have the password, how in hell can they identify and play under your name? |
| 18:42.24 | Chestal | it can be a local 'account' on that server |
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| 18:44.12 | Birdie | redsox joined gu, with several admin names, he could play and kick/ban players |
| 18:44.16 | Birdie | with our names |
| 18:44.23 | Birdie | although he doesnt had any of the passwords |
| 18:44.33 | jpa- | uh |
| 18:44.38 | jpa- | check the password file |
| 18:45.00 | jpa- | it might be a bug that was fixed quite a bit of time ago |
| 18:45.11 | jpa- | early in 2.0.1 i think |
| 18:45.41 | jpa- | there should be no 3389dae361af79b04c9c8e7057f60cc6 as password |
| 18:47.13 | Chestal | Birdie: somebody should check the server logs |
| 18:50.13 | Birdie | i'll ask the owner |
| 19:07.41 | prop | is it possible to have anything that comes after /register or /identify to be shown as *'s? |
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| 19:25.17 | jpa- | hi braddide |
| 19:26.57 | brad2901 | hi jpa- |
| 19:27.16 | jpa- | gnight braddide |
| 19:27.27 | brad2901 | g'night jpa- :) |
| 19:27.52 | jpa- | *hug* |
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| 19:47.43 | fabianne | noooooooooooooooo |
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| 19:47.58 | fabianne | wee! |
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| 20:15.46 | SportyGal | Nidhoggr: ping |
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| 20:28.44 | Pimpi | prop: everything is possible, but this task isn't that easy, there are no preparations for it yet |
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| 20:29.26 | Pimpi | not sure if it's worth it, especially since local accounts might become rare soon |
| 20:30.05 | Pimpi | many server admins are going to disable them entirely, some already did |
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| 20:37.51 | Noodle-sensei | internet explorer is going DOWN |
| 20:37.52 | Noodle-sensei | YEAH |
| 20:37.57 | Noodle-sensei | w00t w00t |
| 20:38.13 | Noodle-sensei | asks* |
| 20:38.18 | Grumbler | Noodle-sensei< stop sniffing the office glue |
| 20:38.45 | Grumbler | :) |
| 20:38.50 | Noodle-sensei | hehehe |
| 20:38.58 | Noodle-sensei | no, i like sharpies |
| 20:39.06 | Noodle-sensei | i don't touch that glue stuff |
| 20:40.28 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03timriker * 10bzflag/configure.in: did you really mean that? add -Wshadow |
| 20:40.36 | Grumbler | l prefer the expo markers myself... |
| 20:41.08 | Noodle-sensei | that's pretty good schtuff as well |
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| 21:29.56 | SportyGal | what is the "mute" permission called? |
| 21:30.07 | Pimpi | talk |
| 21:30.14 | SportyGal | really? |
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| 21:30.48 | SportyGal | pimpi are you sure? I want to give rights to a group to /mute /unmute. that's talk? |
| 21:31.16 | Pimpi | oh, no, misunderstood you |
| 21:31.27 | SportyGal | so is it called "mute"? |
| 21:31.30 | Pimpi | lemme c |
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| 21:32.33 | Pimpi | it's MUTE and UNMUTE |
| 21:33.08 | SportyGal | that's the command is it the perm, too? |
| 21:33.46 | Pimpi | these 2 are the corosponding perms, yes i am sure |
| 21:33.57 | SportyGal | perfect! thanks! |
| 21:34.01 | SportyGal | ~Pimpi++ |
| 21:34.11 | Pimpi | ;) |
| 21:34.45 | Pimpi | talk is what /mute forbids |
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| 21:35.09 | SportyGal | yeah, I thought so |
| 21:35.47 | Pimpi | http://balin.pimpi.org/perms for a list of all perms |
| 21:40.41 | SportyGal | thanks pimpi |
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| 21:56.40 | SportyGal | sgk284: ping |
| 22:06.46 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03dtremenak * 10bzflag/src/bzflag/ComposeDefaultKey.cxx: add even locally interpreted commands into the message history. usage message for localset. |
| 22:07.51 | orange | localset lets you do something like /localset showips 2 |
| 22:07.51 | orange | ? |
| 22:08.09 | orange | or /localset radarzoom 10 |
| 22:12.38 | SportyGal | who programmed the slot number functions? |
| 22:16.04 | orange | I believe manu did the original slot number programming, and then others have to choose to use his functions |
| 22:16.31 | orange | I believe it would also be very easy to add it, based on my scan of the code for /kill (which mebigfatguy did... thanks again mebigfatguy :-) |
| 22:17.00 | orange | I think orchid did /mute, right? |
| 22:17.19 | Pimpi | yep |
| 22:17.39 | Pimpi | Manu made the slot number thing |
| 22:18.34 | Pimpi | he also looked at /mute, not sure if he's going to implement it |
| 22:18.43 | orange | it'd be great, for sure |
| 22:19.14 | Pimpi | there's a helper function fo it, shouldn't be to difficult |
| 22:19.39 | orange | yeah, very nice setup |
| 22:19.43 | brlcad | SportyGal: /mute was added around the same time, so that feature hasn't been added to it yet |
| 22:20.14 | orange | good point... the slot number helper wasn't around when orchid programmed mute |
| 22:20.28 | orange | I'd like to see it on /msg too |
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| 22:20.53 | orange | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:20.55 | orange | or similar |
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| 22:24.48 | orange | I want my tk highlighting patch to make it in so it will work in windows on the next release |
| 22:24.53 | orange | who is willing to adopt my patch? |
| 22:25.01 | orange | I tried to con trepan into it but he wouldn't :-) |
| 22:25.12 | orange | something about going to watch a movie ;-) |
| 22:25.31 | DTRemenak | orange: link? |
| 22:25.39 | orange | I'll pastebin it... hang on |
| 22:27.15 | orange | DTRemenak: http://pastebin.ca/9057 |
| 22:27.21 | orange | two problems... |
| 22:27.42 | orange | 1) I commented out two lines (16-19 in the patch) that I wanted commented out on my local copy |
| 22:27.55 | orange | (but shouldn't be in the real bzflag) |
| 22:28.23 | orange | 2) line 007, that gets called every time, and could be moved outside of the function, as tim said that might be less than efficient as it is |
| 22:28.43 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03dtremenak * 10bzflag/src/bzflag/ComposeDefaultKey.cxx: warn about trying to set server-defined variables with /localset |
| 22:29.06 | orange | as it is, it works great for me, but I can see that helping |
| 22:29.39 | DTRemenak | that's what bzdbcache is for, actually |
| 22:29.58 | orange | didn't know about that one |
| 22:30.05 | orange | this isn't much of a patch, but it sure helps |
| 22:30.26 | DTRemenak | although locally storing it would probably be better in this case |
| 22:31.48 | DTRemenak | hm. would it be OK with you if it highlighted the TK number on the scoreboard instead of the callsign? |
| 22:32.19 | orange | sure thing |
| 22:32.33 | DTRemenak | that would make it more obvious exactly what is "wrong" with the player :) |
| 22:33.09 | orange | true |
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| 22:41.07 | Birdie | ~DTRemenak++ |
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| 22:44.47 | SportyGal | brlcad: ok |
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| 22:50.42 | Legoguy | cods: ping |
| 22:50.54 | cods | Legoguy: pong |
| 22:51.18 | Legoguy | cods: the random map is _very very_ laggy right now |
| 22:51.26 | Legoguy | rabiit hunt |
| 22:51.29 | Legoguy | rabbit* |
| 22:52.11 | cods | hmm. Changing Smoothing option help ? |
| 22:52.24 | cods | s/Smoothing/Blending/ |
| 22:52.52 | cods | hmm |
| 22:52.53 | Legoguy | no, server laggy |
| 22:52.55 | cods | by laggy you mean what ? |
| 22:52.56 | cods | ah |
| 22:52.57 | Legoguy | not graphics |
| 22:53.22 | Legoguy | if it were graphics i would say it's has really low fps ;) |
| 22:53.27 | Legoguy | it* |
| 22:53.37 | Legoguy | but it doesn't, so.. |
| 22:53.49 | cods | well, some people say "laggy" when it's slow :) |
| 22:54.15 | cods | bzflag is running on at one of the best French ISP, with a 100MBits/s connection |
| 22:54.24 | cods | s/bzflag/the server/ |
| 22:54.26 | Legoguy | heh |
| 22:54.27 | Legoguy | well |
| 22:54.31 | Legoguy | it doesn't quite show |
| 22:54.56 | cods | can you check with a traceroute ? |
| 22:55.13 | cods | my own connection is currently too busy to test lag |
| 22:56.43 | Legoguy | ok |
| 22:56.52 | cods | I can eventually traceroute from the server to you |
| 23:07.58 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03dtremenak * 10bzflag/man/bzfs.6s: /masterban flush|reload not /masterbanflush and /masterbanreload |
| 23:10.17 | JeffM2501 | lookit you geting all purdy with the commands :) |
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| 23:30.27 | wegstar | hey bzflagwiz |
| 23:43.11 | cosmos | heh |
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| 23:57.35 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03dtremenak * 10bzflag/src/bzflag/ (HUDRenderer.cxx HUDRenderer.h bzflag.cxx): highlight teamkill ratios above a threshold value on the scoreboard. modified patch from orange. |
| 23:58.13 | DTRemenak | ~orange++ |
