| 00:00.00 | DTRemenak | I'm running a single palomino at 1433Mhz |
| 00:00.05 | spldart | Master L |
| 00:00.32 | spldart | I still have one paly in the house... A 1600+ I believe |
| 00:00.35 | spldart | Not sure |
| 00:00.40 | spldart | It's in the kids room |
| 00:01.02 | DTRemenak | and my server is running on a K6 at 200 |
| 00:01.20 | spldart | Wow... |
| 00:01.30 | spldart | I thought mine was an ole school processor |
| 00:02.06 | DTRemenak | and it has been running on that same hardware for three years |
| 00:02.09 | spldart | My server is a HOT shuttle mobo with a k62 500. But the mobo doesn't support 100mhz X 5 so I run at 466 or so |
| 00:02.19 | DTRemenak | rebooted three times total ;) |
| 00:02.32 | DTRemenak | one of which was to take it on a 400 mile trip |
| 00:02.34 | spldart | My server is going to be 5 soon.... But restarted many many many times |
| 00:02.49 | spldart | Been hit by lightning 3 times though |
| 00:02.53 | DTRemenak | heh |
| 00:02.58 | spldart | no ish |
| 00:03.05 | spldart | came up my cable |
| 00:03.12 | spldart | through the toshiba modem |
| 00:03.17 | spldart | nuked it in the process |
| 00:03.26 | spldart | Down the usb cable to the nic card |
| 00:03.32 | spldart | and into the machine from there. |
| 00:03.37 | DTRemenak | you know you can get surge protectors that protect network cable |
| 00:03.42 | spldart | I have 2 |
| 00:03.49 | spldart | And added another ground strap too |
| 00:04.03 | spldart | Along with an extra surge and ups for the server |
| 00:04.08 | spldart | and cable modem |
| 00:04.08 | DTRemenak | shouldn't ever get to your computer then, although your modem will still be fried |
| 00:04.22 | blast007 | a direct hit will get through anyway |
| 00:04.28 | spldart | The last time it shouldn't..... EXCEPT |
| 00:04.37 | blast007 | and not all surge protectors can take as much of a hit |
| 00:04.37 | spldart | the streamer jumped off the back of my houst |
| 00:04.40 | spldart | house |
| 00:05.00 | spldart | Wasn't the streamer that connected to the stepleader but close |
| 00:05.05 | DTRemenak | yeah, they have to be good surge protectors, too. and you really should have a lighting rod ;) |
| 00:05.17 | spldart | I guess :eek: |
| 00:05.51 | DTRemenak | whereabouts do you live? many parts of the country there's nary a house built without a lightning rod |
| 00:06.05 | spldart | Sugar Land tx... Near Houston |
| 00:06.09 | DTRemenak | they're cheap and effective |
| 00:06.19 | spldart | No lightning rods anywhere around here |
| 00:06.24 | DTRemenak | heh |
| 00:06.28 | DTRemenak | maybe there should be ;) |
| 00:06.41 | spldart | I wish lighting would strike my neighbor though ;) |
| 00:06.53 | DTRemenak | we got hit two or three times a year...straight through the rod into the ground |
| 00:07.07 | spldart | sweet |
| 00:07.10 | DTRemenak | very impressive to hear thunder and see lightning simultaneously |
| 00:07.17 | spldart | yep... |
| 00:07.19 | DTRemenak | especially outside :) |
| 00:07.23 | spldart | the streamer was trippy though |
| 00:07.30 | spldart | since it wasn't the one that connected |
| 00:07.38 | spldart | It made a loud TICK sound |
| 00:07.42 | DTRemenak | heh |
| 00:07.47 | spldart | that occompanied the flash |
| 00:07.57 | spldart | Then we got the boom a quarter second later |
| 00:08.10 | spldart | then smoke started coming out my server |
| 00:08.11 | spldart | again |
| 00:08.15 | DTRemenak | heh |
| 00:08.20 | wegstar | since when was the '/say' command supported? |
| 00:08.32 | DTRemenak | wegstar: since about a month ago, apparently |
| 00:08.39 | wegstar | oh |
| 00:08.40 | DTRemenak | personally I think it's a terrible idea |
| 00:10.37 | spldart | check this it's cool http://67.10.210.195:91/lightningdamage1.JPG |
| 00:11.08 | wegstar | to click or not to click... |
| 00:11.14 | spldart | You can see where the bolt jumped out that inductor and into the rest of the pci to usb card |
| 00:11.23 | spldart | Locking down the bus tight |
| 00:11.32 | DTRemenak | nice :) |
| 00:11.34 | spldart | ??? |
| 00:11.40 | spldart | it's safe to click |
| 00:11.42 | wegstar | eek |
| 00:12.01 | spldart | I let my kids take it to show and tell |
| 00:12.02 | spldart | LOL |
| 00:12.07 | DTRemenak | hehe |
| 00:12.09 | wegstar | heh :) |
| 00:12.17 | DTRemenak | I prefer demonstrating directly ;) |
| 00:12.27 | DTRemenak | hey y'all, watch THIS! |
| 00:12.28 | spldart | oops... I think I'm getting off topic though |
| 00:12.32 | spldart | LMAO |
| 00:13.25 | DTRemenak | I actually did that for my tech team crew |
| 00:13.36 | DTRemenak | plugged in an AT motherboard's power connector backwards |
| 00:13.57 | spldart | woah |
| 00:14.15 | DTRemenak | yeah, fun to watch the circuts rip themselves off of the PCB :) |
| 00:14.24 | blast007 | "Here how not to remove a PCI card" *pulls the card while the computer is running* "Notice the BSOD and the weird beeping?" |
| 00:14.29 | DTRemenak | haha |
| 00:14.40 | DTRemenak | actually I demonstrated that computers were resilient by just that method |
| 00:14.47 | DTRemenak | pulling cards while it was running |
| 00:15.07 | DTRemenak | then I demonstrated that pulling MEMORY while it was running was not so good |
| 00:15.23 | blast007 | I heard about someone that did that, in front of the owner of the computer (accidentally) |
| 00:15.31 | DTRemenak | heh |
| 00:15.36 | blast007 | so they casually put the card back in, and prayed |
| 00:15.39 | DTRemenak | this was in front of the owner ;) |
| 00:15.49 | DTRemenak | with his permission though :) |
| 00:15.50 | spldart | wait... Let me guess |
| 00:16.05 | spldart | http://67.10.210.195:91/burn1.jpg |
| 00:16.18 | spldart | http://67.10.210.195:91/burn2.jpg |
| 00:16.18 | DTRemenak | nice |
| 00:16.39 | spldart | Another nuked bye some excessive current |
| 00:17.00 | spldart | I lost 3 powersupplies after the last strike |
| 00:17.03 | Grumbler | just because you pull a card and it works, does not imply that you didnt do any damage |
| 00:17.05 | spldart | And several surge protectors |
| 00:17.19 | DTRemenak | Grumbler: depends on the card |
| 00:17.31 | DTRemenak | pulling AGP cards while the box is running is a cool effect though |
| 00:18.10 | DTRemenak | haha, actually, I pulled ths sound card, showed that nothing happened, put it back in, played a sound, then had a random guy pull the video card out :) |
| 00:18.43 | DTRemenak | *spark* *spark* *puff of blue smoke* "Holy ****" |
| 00:18.48 | spldart | lmao |
| 00:18.59 | Grumbler | again, just because you pulled it once and it worked, doesnt mean you didnt do any damage, you probably shortened the life the card, or the decoupling caps on the card. |
| 00:19.08 | DTRemenak | Grumbler: no doubt |
| 00:19.23 | spldart | Decoupling caps are pretty resilient |
| 00:19.31 | DTRemenak | the point was to abuse the thing though :) |
| 00:19.34 | spldart | I'd be worried about those data lines going into the gpu |
| 00:19.40 | Grumbler | not in commercial, because quality is low |
| 00:19.54 | DTRemenak | video card was very destroyed |
| 00:19.59 | spldart | heh |
| 00:20.21 | spldart | I'm an electronics tech so this is all well understood and amusing |
| 00:20.26 | DTRemenak | because of the design of AGP slots, you end up running power leads where there ought to be signal leads and vice versa when you pull it straight out |
| 00:20.41 | spldart | yep |
| 00:21.05 | DTRemenak | hot plugging IDE devices was another one we tried |
| 00:21.11 | DTRemenak | windows does not like losing its hard drive |
| 00:21.22 | DTRemenak | but after a reboot all was as well as could be expected |
| 00:21.23 | blast007 | hehe |
| 00:21.40 | DTRemenak | cdrom drive appeared to be totally unaffected |
| 00:22.03 | DTRemenak | even when it was reading off of a CD, it just gave "I/O error" when unplugged |
| 00:22.18 | blast007 | I had to deal with birds chewing through IDE cables before ;) |
| 00:22.24 | DTRemenak | birds?!? |
| 00:22.38 | blast007 | it the agricultural room at my high school |
| 00:22.41 | DTRemenak | heh |
| 00:22.54 | DTRemenak | we had one computer that had three inches of clay dust in it |
| 00:23.02 | blast007 | we were replacing the CD-ROM drives, cuz the kids snapped the bands, so they had the drive bay open |
| 00:23.05 | DTRemenak | we got a ruler out and measured it :) |
| 00:23.16 | blast007 | one kid reported that they turned a computer on, and a bird flew out ;) |
| 00:23.20 | DTRemenak | heh |
| 00:23.51 | DTRemenak | the guy had called us 'cause his machine had stopped running; the video card had broken in its slot from the weight of the clay dust |
| 00:23.54 | blast007 | little chunks of wires were all over the motherboards... |
| 00:24.06 | spldart | I've had to deal with mice and and rabbit damage |
| 00:24.06 | blast007 | wow |
| 00:24.24 | DTRemenak | I was not very impressed with the durability of the card, usually pcbs are pretty tough to break |
| 00:24.40 | spldart | kids have little domestic mice... They get out once in a long while and they love to chew |
| 00:24.41 | blast007 | I also recall a squirrel chewing through our T1 line, twice in two weeks |
| 00:24.43 | spldart | So do rabbits |
| 00:24.48 | wegstar | rats |
| 00:24.58 | DTRemenak | heh, funny...my rabbits never seemed interested in my computers |
| 00:25.03 | blast007 | :) |
| 00:25.43 | spldart | We have 5. 1 chinchilla agouti, 1 dutch black and white and 3 mongrel mixes |
| 00:26.09 | DTRemenak | cool. I raised mini lops and holland lops |
| 00:26.29 | DTRemenak | maximum of 13, which was too many |
| 00:26.52 | spldart | we had 12 at once time.... which is also to manyu |
| 00:27.02 | DTRemenak | that's what happens when you have two litters within a week |
| 00:27.27 | spldart | Yeah. They multiply like..well... rabbits |
| 00:27.43 | DTRemenak | heh. I had one doe who refused to breed at all though |
| 00:28.10 | DTRemenak | she had a lot of very good traits, I really wanted to see how her kits turned out |
| 00:28.33 | spldart | It happens :| |
| 00:28.56 | DTRemenak | yup |
| 00:33.09 | wegstar | gotta go perform at a concert... bbl in a few hours |
| 00:34.24 | spldart | A concert? I wonder... School or other. |
| 00:40.10 | spldart | HOLY POOP Call of Honor1 has filled my freakan /report file with junk that I assume he thinks is important. Well. He's not going to be a cop on my server. |
| 00:45.05 | blast007 | heh |
| 01:46.53 | uso | has there anything changed with roaming keys in 2.0? Ctrl/Alt/Shift-Cursor does not work anymore |
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| 01:50.56 | blast007 | uso: are you in "Roaming" mode? |
| 01:51.53 | uso | yes, afaik :) |
| 01:52.02 | uso | observer, f8, roaming |
| 01:53.41 | blast007 | work for me |
| 01:54.09 | blast007 | though Shift + Up moves down, and Shift + Down moves up |
| 01:54.10 | uso | hmm |
| 01:54.47 | blast007 | alt allows me to move forward, backward, and sidestep left or right |
| 01:55.05 | blast007 | ctrl turns the camera left, right, up, and down |
| 01:56.38 | uso | yes, i know this, and 1.10 still works |
| 01:57.27 | blast007 | hmm, have you tried reseting the key mapping? |
| 02:00.31 | uso | the movement keys were not set, seems to affect roaming also |
| 02:00.49 | uso | don't know when they were lost |
| 02:00.59 | uso | now it works |
| 02:01.02 | spldart | wow |
| 02:01.03 | uso | thanks |
| 02:01.11 | blast007 | ah, ok |
| 02:01.11 | spldart | I didn't know about up and down in roaming mode |
| 02:01.29 | spldart | oooh |
| 02:01.33 | spldart | brb gonna try camera |
| 02:07.07 | spldart | WOW |
| 02:07.39 | spldart | That makes all the difference Go up 50 to 100 feet and look down on the action. You learn alot more about tactics |
| 02:08.05 | spldart | I'm still learning alot about this gaem |
| 02:08.07 | spldart | game |
| 02:12.42 | blast007 | uso: yeah, mouse control would be cool |
| 02:24.50 | uso | but 2.0 is already better, you can "normal" drive with cursor keys |
| 02:25.38 | spldart | how do you call the fps counter again? |
| 02:25.57 | uso | t |
| 02:25.57 | spldart | kew |
| 02:25.57 | spldart | thanks |
| 02:26.50 | uso | i was on DTRemenak's server, fps shows 30 to 40 and i could count the pictures ... about 2 or 3 a second :(( |
| 02:28.46 | uso | this would somewhat explain why 2.0 is still jerking if it shows nearly 100 fps |
| 02:31.55 | uso | DTRemenak: are this all meshes on your map, that it needs such a lot of graphics power? |
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| 02:35.14 | uso | spldart: sometimes i've been sitting for hours in observer mode and have watched it like a good movie :) |
| 02:36.01 | uso | spldart: you may also be interested in f9/f10 for zooming |
| 02:36.48 | creeperz | my friend richard and i use to get all fugg'd up and pretend we were in slow motion Vietnam |
| 02:36.59 | creeperz | ...good ol' days... |
| 02:37.28 | creeperz | oh wait |
| 02:37.35 | creeperz | that was just a couple days ago |
| 02:43.04 | spldart | interesting |
| 02:43.22 | spldart | The observer mode controls act bizarre in the bridges map |
| 02:43.32 | spldart | But are normal in the others I've tried so far |
| 02:44.14 | spldart | LOL at creeperz |
| 02:44.20 | spldart | :-p |
| 02:45.50 | spldart | I just can't decide Star Trek First Contact, Observer in Spiral Zone, Star Trek, Spiral Zone...... |
| 02:46.25 | spldart | And i can't do both cuz BZflag conflicts with ATI multimedia center and I get a crash |
| 02:46.33 | uso | lol |
| 02:47.18 | uso | roaming in bridges acts normal for me |
| 02:47.24 | spldart | huh |
| 02:47.26 | spldart | weird |
| 02:47.40 | spldart | All the axis are screwed up for me in that one map :( |
| 02:48.05 | uso | but listserver handling seems to have probelms last days, i often get a different server as i has selected |
| 02:48.47 | uso | for me its only painfull slow |
| 02:49.34 | spldart | odd |
| 02:49.38 | uso | but thats my 3 days old hardware ;) |
| 02:49.51 | spldart | hehe |
| 02:51.23 | uso | do this meshes only need more GPU power or also more CPU power? |
| 02:51.30 | spldart | Can I ask yah a question DTR? |
| 02:51.50 | uso | i.e. would it be enough to get a faster graphics card? |
| 02:52.09 | spldart | You mention there should be no reason for crashes of any sort. And if one occurs it's because of a hardware of software shortcoming. |
| 02:52.28 | spldart | I'd say the gpu is more important |
| 02:52.34 | spldart | But I'm not sure |
| 02:52.51 | spldart | maybe an experiment is in order |
| 02:53.05 | spldart | monitor cpu usage during a game |
| 02:53.49 | uso | need to have someone which is a bit more sure before paying money for a new card :) |
| 02:54.01 | spldart | DTR< Would a OS/addition software package that runs for 2 weeks straight with no problems but averages a month before reboots tend to indicate a hardware issue? |
| 02:54.08 | uso | cpu is always on 100% |
| 02:54.19 | spldart | Even with nothing running uso? |
| 02:54.26 | uso | no :) |
| 02:54.26 | spldart | What's your OS? |
| 02:54.29 | spldart | oh |
| 02:54.30 | spldart | ok |
| 02:54.31 | uso | with bzflag running |
| 02:54.43 | spldart | BRB I'm gonna check my cpu usage while bzflagging |
| 02:58.07 | uso | Age |
| 03:01.20 | spldart | Your right |
| 03:01.35 | spldart | I have a dual cpu machine and bzflag maxes out 1 cpu |
| 03:01.53 | spldart | I have dual AMD bartons at 2300 mhz apiece |
| 03:02.06 | spldart | Before I was playing 1 was already maxed out |
| 03:02.23 | spldart | That's bizarre |
| 03:02.31 | uso | you should make a request for thread support :) |
| 03:02.41 | spldart | hehe yeah |
| 03:03.57 | uidzero | ~bzfsquery bzflag.bsdhacker.org |
| 03:04.39 | uidzero | ~bzfquery bzflag.bsdhacker.org |
| 03:04.58 | uidzero | ~bzfquery bzflag.bsdhacker.org |
| 03:05.06 | uidzero | uhm |
| 03:10.38 | uso | does bzflag not cache the serverlist anymore? it seems if the server list changes while i'm on it i get another server as i have selected |
| 03:11.40 | spldart | I thought so but don't remember where to find it. |
| 03:11.50 | spldart | I'm still a n00b |
| 03:13.02 | blast007 | there should be a cache setting somewhere |
| 03:13.13 | blast007 | by default it's on "Off/Backup" |
| 03:13.38 | blast007 | so it only shows you the cache if it can't reach the listserver |
| 03:14.35 | blast007 | hmm..maybe you are right though... |
| 03:15.34 | blast007 | well, mine said it was set to 30 days, but it was always getting the list fresh |
| 03:15.48 | blast007 | but setting that value to something else, and then back to 30 made it work |
| 03:16.12 | uso | blast007: i mean caching while i'm in the serverlist menu |
| 03:16.32 | uso | the "normal" caching still seems to work |
| 03:17.07 | blast007 | hmm, not sure I understand what you mean then...I, too, am talking about the server list menu in the game |
| 03:18.49 | uso | i use Find Server, have the list, select one, Enter, be back in the Join Server page |
| 03:19.25 | uso | but the server shown in the Join Server page is anopther as i have selected before in the server list |
| 03:19.37 | blast007 | hmm, let me check |
| 03:19.44 | blast007 | is that with 2.0.0? |
| 03:19.50 | uso | sometimes i need 3 or 4 tries to get the right server |
| 03:19.56 | uso | cvs version |
| 03:20.01 | blast007 | oh |
| 03:20.08 | uso | from yesterday |
| 03:21.19 | blast007 | it's working fine for me |
| 03:21.32 | blast007 | cvs build from the 10th |
| 03:21.50 | uso | effect only occurs from time to time |
| 03:23.56 | uso | unfortunatly i have not found a situation to reproduce it so far |
| 03:35.40 | spldart | Dude! Fire!!! |
| 03:36.06 | spldart | Prefabs and map objects, thead titled fire |
| 03:36.21 | spldart | I loaded the code into a bzw and started it. Very cool |
| 03:36.47 | spldart | http://67.10.210.195:91/bzfire.jpg Landshark posted it |
| 03:37.05 | uso | blast007: it's only the name of the server which is wrong in the list |
| 03:37.14 | blast007 | the hostname? |
| 03:37.20 | blast007 | or the description? |
| 03:37.26 | uso | blast007: the description |
| 03:37.37 | blast007 | ah |
| 03:38.14 | creeperz | pretty fire... |
| 03:38.16 | uso | i.e. the serverlist itself is inconsistent, parameters are right (shots, flags, ..) but the line with the description is from an other server |
| 03:38.38 | spldart | I love it. But I don't know how to move it on a map |
| 03:38.50 | spldart | *studies map making some more* |
| 03:40.59 | uso | argh, port 91 |
| 03:41.01 | blast007 | uso: hmmm...I can't reproduce it |
| 03:41.45 | uso | i know,it's difficult, i can't even reproduce it here ;) |
| 03:41.50 | blast007 | hehe |
| 03:42.13 | spldart | Sorry port 91. Roadrunner blocked serving on 80 |
| 03:42.15 | uso | my squid resists to connect to 91 |
| 03:42.36 | spldart | and 8080 |
| 03:43.02 | uso | it get switched off for that :) |
| 03:43.11 | spldart | I know. |
| 03:43.31 | spldart | I don't seem to througput enough that they mind |
| 03:44.16 | uso | provider, which blocks ports? omg |
| 03:44.42 | creeperz | roadrunenr is pretty stupid like that |
| 03:45.25 | uso | but only for flat rates, or? |
| 03:48.13 | spldart | I pay like 45 a month for roadrunner, 40 for regular cable and 35 additional for digi cable and some pay channels |
| 03:48.18 | spldart | Like 120 a month. |
| 03:51.12 | uso | it's 25 for cable tv and about 70 for a 2 mbit inet flatrate here |
| 03:51.21 | uso | no digital channels |
| 03:51.31 | uso | this coasts extra |
| 03:53.09 | uso | creeperz: what upstream? |
| 03:53.13 | creeperz | mm hmm |
| 03:53.16 | spldart | I got 355kbps up 3 + or - down |
| 03:53.25 | spldart | 3mbps |
| 03:53.35 | uso | i have a relative good upstream, 600 kbps |
| 03:53.47 | spldart | that is good |
| 03:53.56 | creeperz | i still get 256 down though |
| 03:54.10 | uso | i know :) |
| 03:54.27 | creeperz | i wanted 900 down |
| 03:54.28 | uso | creeperz: 256 kbyte? |
| 03:54.29 | creeperz | but NOOOO |
| 03:54.33 | creeperz | yes |
| 03:54.50 | uso | that's what i also get, with 2mbit ;) |
| 03:54.58 | uso | ok, only 254 :) |
| 03:54.59 | creeperz | wow |
| 03:55.05 | creeperz | i think i can hear my bladder crying |
| 03:55.11 | creeperz | err |
| 03:55.13 | creeperz | liver |
| 03:55.17 | creeperz | yeah, that thing |
| 03:55.21 | spldart | woah... I changed some of the parameters and the fire squished out all over the ground like a mine field |
| 03:55.36 | creeperz | spldart: screenie |
| 03:55.37 | uso | heh, but i pay more for it as you for your 3 mbit |
| 03:55.39 | blast007 | creeperz: 256kB/sec == 2.0mb/sec |
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| 03:56.25 | creeperz | mm hmm |
| 03:57.45 | uso | but its much more expensive |
| 03:59.37 | spldart | http://67.10.210.195:91/bzfiresquish.jpg |
| 03:59.51 | blast007 | hehe |
| 04:00.01 | blast007 | someone set the grass on fire! |
| 04:00.03 | blast007 | ;) |
| 04:01.11 | spldart | hehe |
| 04:01.22 | spldart | I'm going to try a new set of parameters as an experiment |
| 04:02.52 | uso | what is the "Connection updates" setting for? |
| 04:03.29 | spldart | hrm. That didn't make a difference |
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| 04:23.44 | SportChick | hi aribeth |
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| 04:33.04 | Aribeth | hi SportChick |
| 04:33.34 | Aribeth | SportChick ping |
| 04:33.36 | SportChick | question for you - do you have polling disabled on ire? |
| 04:33.37 | SportChick | yep? |
| 04:33.55 | Aribeth | hummmm....let me look |
| 04:38.00 | Aribeth | SportChick poll works, but not for non-registered users |
| 04:39.31 | SportChick | hrm - that's odd. someone earlier told me it was disabled |
| 04:39.37 | SportChick | they must have been confused |
| 04:40.08 | Aribeth | Tegan juszt tested it with no prob |
| 04:41.13 | SportChick | Aribeth: okay, thanks. What did you ping ME for? did you need something? |
| 04:42.03 | Aribeth | just wondering if you were still around. i was fixing my downloadable texture prob |
| 04:42.29 | Aribeth | BTW, i have a beta of Temple of Ire up with oak trees |
| 04:42.38 | Aribeth | on 5160 |
| 04:43.30 | spldart | uh oh... |
| 04:43.44 | SportChick | cool |
| 04:43.46 | SportChick | I'll go look |
| 05:02.30 | bzflagwiz | . |
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| 05:18.43 | spldart | WooHoo. I added Landsharks Fire objects to the tips of the pyramids in the upper combat area of my servermap. I'm so happy :-D |
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| 05:20.41 | wegstar | hi all |
| 05:25.19 | spldart | Hi |
| 05:25.23 | spldart | I got fire |
| 05:25.29 | spldart | 8) |
| 05:26.12 | wegstar | ? |
| 05:28.35 | wegstar | fire? |
| 05:29.30 | spldart | I added fire to my map |
| 05:29.44 | spldart | On the tops of the 5 aerial combat pyramids |
| 05:29.50 | spldart | I'm so pleased with myself |
| 05:29.58 | spldart | Landshark posted the object |
| 05:30.07 | spldart | And helped me figure out how to place them |
| 05:30.08 | wegstar | oh.. I'll go see it :) |
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| 05:35.36 | uso | spldart: whats your server? |
| 05:41.38 | spldart | It's on the public list Spldart's place |
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| 05:49.17 | Aribeth | Several users cannot download textures, and I can only help the linux ones. Is this working on Windows? |
| 05:49.40 | wegstar | haven't tried ;) |
| 05:52.09 | uso | hehe, fire and trees, nice |
| 05:52.22 | spldart | Fire and tree's where? |
| 05:52.51 | uso | i've automatic downloads set to off, but i got trees anyway |
| 05:53.05 | uso | fire on your map, spldart |
| 05:53.21 | uso | and trees on Aribeth;s server |
| 05:53.23 | spldart | Yep but what map had the trees? |
| 05:53.24 | spldart | Oh |
| 05:53.25 | spldart | IC |
| 05:54.09 | spldart | I'm starting to get worried now |
| 05:54.32 | wegstar | :) |
| 05:54.43 | uso | anybody know what the cache settings "Automatic uploads" and "Connection updates" mean? |
| 05:54.47 | SportChick | DTRemenak: ping |
| 05:54.51 | Aribeth | the downloadable textures dont download on XP |
| 05:55.04 | wegstar | really?.. what version? |
| 05:55.05 | SportChick | brlcad: ping |
| 05:55.11 | spldart | My map is 178K. Uploaded every time somebody logs on. If my map get much traffic... I'll be uploading gigs a month.... I think my roadrunner provider might notice that :( |
| 05:55.12 | wegstar | of bzflag... |
| 05:55.20 | uso | Aribeth: how do i know if i get them? |
| 05:55.32 | Aribeth | bzflag 2.0.1b4 Win XP pro |
| 05:55.40 | wegstar | ok |
| 05:56.19 | Aribeth | on linux i had to point bzflag to a temp directory for textures t work |
| 05:56.58 | Aribeth | if you see green leaves and bark on the tree trunk then its working |
| 05:57.19 | spldart | I'm running 2.0,1b4 too |
| 05:57.39 | Aribeth | the tree's came from JeffM2501's post on bzbb |
| 05:57.58 | spldart | The oak tree imported from a popular game? |
| 05:58.31 | spldart | how do I find aribeth server? |
| 05:59.06 | Aribeth | bzflag.sleepycows.us port 5160 |
| 05:59.15 | spldart | I'mma check it out |
| 06:00.11 | uso | they are green and there is a texture on it, but not really leaves |
| 06:02.21 | Aribeth | the leaves should look like real leaves |
| 06:02.59 | uso | could not load textures or so |
| 06:04.52 | spldart | I couldn't load them either |
| 06:05.18 | spldart | Is there a fix or is that being worked on right now? |
| 06:05.37 | Aribeth | im looking into it now |
| 06:05.42 | spldart | IC kew |
| 06:12.56 | spldart | Night all |
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| 06:32.56 | bzflagwiz | . |
| 06:34.41 | wegstar | , |
| 06:54.18 | jpa_ | morning |
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| 07:00.33 | DTRemenak | SportChick: pong |
| 07:06.58 | wegstar | night all |
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| 07:16.31 | SportChick | DTRemenak: tegan and aribeth were trying to figure out why their texture wasn't working in windows |
| 07:17.05 | DTRemenak | did they add the site to their downloadaccess.txt, or host it on a bzflag.org or bzflag.bz domain? |
| 07:17.28 | DTRemenak | we don't allow textures from all urls by default |
| 07:17.44 | DTRemenak | (for obvious reasons) |
| 07:17.47 | Aribeth_away | yes we did |
| 07:18.07 | Aribeth_away | we added the site |
| 07:18.19 | Aribeth_away | but still no soap |
| 07:18.56 | Aribeth_away | i added my site to the downloadaccess file |
| 07:19.30 | DTRemenak | hm, it should work then |
| 07:19.39 | DTRemenak | you added it at the top, not the bottom, right? |
| 07:20.00 | DTRemenak | if it hits DENY * before it hits ALLOW mysite, it will deny it |
| 07:20.13 | Aribeth_away | ermm...the bottom of the file just above the deny |
| 07:20.22 | DTRemenak | that works :) |
| 07:20.29 | DTRemenak | it's a png, right? |
| 07:20.43 | DTRemenak | (checking the obvious) |
| 07:20.46 | Aribeth_away | yes |
| 07:22.01 | uso | DTRemenak: does an access entry require reverse dns lookup to work? |
| 07:22.21 | DTRemenak | no, it uses curl |
| 07:22.37 | DTRemenak | you did build with curl, right? |
| 07:23.28 | DTRemenak | what's the material section from your map look like? |
| 07:25.52 | Aribeth_away | the texture line is texture oakblaetter.png |
| 07:29.01 | DTRemenak | ahh. png is automatic, make it "texture oakblaetter" |
| 07:29.11 | Aribeth_away | on my linux system in order to load textures i had to add a working directory to the icon i use to run bzflag |
| 07:29.46 | Aribeth_away | so without the png ectention |
| 07:29.56 | Aribeth_away | extention* |
| 07:30.03 | DTRemenak | yeah |
| 07:30.53 | DTRemenak | from bzw.5: " texture filename # set working texture (without PNG extension)" |
| 07:32.21 | uso | does bzfs speak http or how to use (lib)curl to get the texture? |
| 07:33.01 | jpa_ | bzfs does nothing |
| 07:33.01 | Aribeth_away | no soap |
| 07:33.10 | jpa_ | it is the client that downloads the texture |
| 07:33.58 | uso | jpa_: yes, but you need a server to download from |
| 07:33.59 | Aribeth_away | it works on my linux system, but not on windows or my other linux system |
| 07:34.22 | jpa_ | uso: yes, but it is apache or some other httpd, not bzfs |
| 07:34.44 | DTRemenak | if it's just "texture oakblaetter" then you'll need to have the texture on all the clients already |
| 07:34.56 | uso | and this has to run on the same machine, port 80? |
| 07:34.57 | DTRemenak | if you want to host it remotely you need to specify the url |
| 07:35.13 | DTRemenak | nope, it can be anywhere. I had a test map up for a long time that loaded from libpng.org |
| 07:35.19 | DTRemenak | might still be up |
| 07:37.29 | uso | but i'm missing the link, how does the client know from where to download it if you only set "texture xxx"? |
| 07:37.44 | uso | there must be somewhere the rest of the url |
| 07:37.55 | uso | be set |
| 07:38.15 | Aribeth_away | well, must sleep. g'night |
| 07:38.44 | uso | if i try to connect bzflag.sleepycow.us:80 i get a connection refused |
| 07:39.30 | Aribeth_away | thats because its the bame server name bzflag.sleepycows.org is the web site |
| 07:40.03 | DTRemenak | it does need the full url |
| 07:40.09 | DTRemenak | that's what I said earlier |
| 07:41.06 | uso | so i must be "texture http://server/xxx.png"? |
| 07:41.10 | DTRemenak | something like "texture http://bzflag.org/images/logo" |
| 07:41.14 | DTRemenak | no, drop the png |
| 07:41.38 | DTRemenak | you need the full protocol, server, port if necessary, and path, but not the extension |
| 07:45.56 | uso | there are no defaults, e.g. same host as the game server is running, protocol http, port 80, subdir bzflag? |
| 07:45.57 | Aribeth_away | its working now. thanks |
| 07:50.05 | uso | wow, really nice trees :) |
| 07:50.12 | Aribeth_away | uso, the web site is where the textures are. its bzflag.sleepycows.org |
| 07:50.23 | uso | it works now |
| 07:50.30 | Aribeth_away | there is no web site at bzflag.sleepycows.us |
| 07:50.49 | Aribeth_away | thank JeffM2501 |
| 07:51.01 | Aribeth_away | he did the tree |
| 07:51.25 | Aribeth_away | i just grouped it and rescaled them |
| 07:51.45 | uso | nice work |
| 07:52.02 | uso | i also had to enable the automatic downloads option |
| 07:52.03 | Aribeth_away | nvery good trees |
| 07:52.18 | Aribeth_away | ahh |
| 07:53.13 | uso | the error message of bzflag is somewhat irritating, as it only mentions DownloadAccess.txt and not this option |
| 07:55.54 | jpa_ | hmm |
| 07:55.59 | jpa_ | what option? |
| 07:56.15 | jpa_ | for me only adding Allow * to downloadaccess.txt was enough |
| 07:56.31 | Aribeth_away | yes that does work |
| 07:57.05 | Aribeth_away | SportChick ping |
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| 07:57.29 | Aribeth_away | however it is less secure |
| 07:58.10 | Aribeth_away | g'night, i must sleep |
| 07:58.19 | jpa_ | well, i don't care if someone puts porn to my disk using bzflag :) |
| 07:58.34 | uso | jpa_: menu Cache settings, Automatic downloads |
| 07:58.42 | jpa_ | hmm |
| 07:58.49 | jpa_ | never seen any Cache settings menu |
| 07:58.59 | uso | i several times asked what this settings mean, al least one i know now ;) |
| 07:59.09 | Aribeth_away | well, i work for the government, so that would be bad |
| 07:59.51 | uso | jpa_: it's one submenu under options |
| 08:00.48 | uso | btw, does anybody know what the setting "Connection updates" in this menu mean? |
| 08:02.05 | uso | jpa_: iirc this is on by default, but paranoid as i am i disabled all suspect settings ;) |
| 08:02.23 | jpa_ | strange person |
| 08:02.32 | uso | :) |
| 08:02.33 | jpa_ | only paranoids die |
| 08:13.57 | uso | gotta go to bed now, cya |
| 08:14.04 | jpa_ | no you do not |
| 08:14.12 | jpa_ | you stay here or i'll get bored |
| 08:14.35 | uso | lol, bored also die :) |
| 08:14.42 | jpa_ | :( |
| 08:15.32 | uso | compile the latest cvs and watch the heaven simulation ... it IS a new feature ;) |
| 08:16.16 | uso | or better ;-( |
| 08:17.59 | jpa_ | :) |
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| 09:03.15 | Pimpi | heaven simulation? |
| 09:03.22 | Pimpi | whats that? |
| 09:04.29 | jomojo | hey Pimpi: |
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| 09:47.27 | Mirella | hello |
| 09:51.31 | [dmp] | hi Mirella |
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| 10:18.59 | ruskie | ~bzfquery viper.pimpi.org:5158 |
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| 10:35.21 | [dmp] | there she is =) |
| 10:35.37 | Birdie | i hope you arent talking to me:P |
| 10:36.07 | [dmp] | nooooo.. You just happend to join, when i felt like writing that |
| 10:36.09 | [dmp] | :) |
| 10:36.23 | Mirella | hola dmp |
| 10:36.30 | Birdie | lol |
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| 14:21.21 | Birdie | hi jpa |
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| 17:02.32 | ruskie | is there something wrong with vper.pimpi.org and global logins...???? |
| 17:02.40 | ruskie | makes it kinda annoying not being able to play... |
| 17:03.09 | Tupone | what the message it gives? |
| 17:04.02 | ruskie | it doesn't give any global login approved message |
| 17:04.12 | ruskie | only says nick is registered and I need to identify |
| 17:04.24 | ruskie | I tried identifying but it isn't recognizing my password |
| 17:04.46 | Tupone | identify then, with /identify and the old password you had, not the bzbb password |
| 17:04.53 | ruskie | they are the same |
| 17:04.56 | ruskie | and it doesn't work |
| 17:05.10 | ruskie | I deregistered my old login on the server once global login was enabled |
| 17:05.18 | ruskie | so I'm a bit confused now... |
| 17:06.04 | Tupone | you should contact _Manu_ or Pimpinella :( |
| 17:06.21 | ruskie | Pimpinella, _Manu_ wake up /me starts bashing down their screens |
| 17:06.37 | ruskie | I tried it 3-4 times atm... |
| 17:06.59 | _Manu_ | ruskie, problems? |
| 17:07.08 | ruskie | anything wrong with global login? |
| 17:07.24 | _Manu_ | no.. but you must be deregistered in viper at first |
| 17:07.27 | ruskie | I don't get a global login approved |
| 17:07.28 | ruskie | I am |
| 17:07.34 | ruskie | been so for a long time... |
| 17:07.39 | _Manu_ | let me take a look.. |
| 17:08.36 | _Manu_ | well.. global is not working now |
| 17:08.48 | ruskie | :( |
| 17:09.17 | _Manu_ | now you are really deregistered in viper |
| 17:09.31 | ruskie | I did do a /deregister on it... really I did |
| 17:09.33 | _Manu_ | you was registered.. |
| 17:09.52 | ruskie | well ok... tnx... |
| 17:09.55 | _Manu_ | i think you have no rights for deregister :) |
| 17:10.12 | _Manu_ | try later.. global will be ok probably |
| 17:10.39 | _Manu_ | Tupone, ciao! :) |
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| 17:20.54 | Tupone | manuciao |
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| 17:21.47 | amathis101 | hi guys |
| 17:21.55 | amathis101 | :) |
| 17:22.28 | Tupone | manuchao will sound better |
| 17:23.13 | _Manu_ | also Tapone :) |
| 17:24.19 | _Manu_ | manuchao is a singer... heh |
| 17:24.39 | Tupone | the rise of the tapone family mafia?? never heard before |
| 17:24.42 | _Manu_ | take a look: http://www.manuchao.net/ |
| 17:24.43 | Nidhoggr | hi amathis101 |
| 17:24.48 | Birdie | manuchao cant sing |
| 17:24.56 | amathis101 | hi Nidhoggr |
| 17:26.08 | _Manu_ | Birdie, why? :) |
| 17:26.31 | Birdie | no offence...but he sounds horrible:) |
| 17:27.31 | _Manu_ | then perhaps you must say: he musn't sing... ;) |
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| 18:03.23 | Birdie | hi gina, blast |
| 18:04.04 | blast007 | hello :) |
| 18:05.27 | gina | I'm not a blast |
| 18:05.29 | gina | ahhh |
| 18:05.45 | blast007 | hehe |
| 18:05.46 | Birdie | hehe |
| 18:06.20 | CIA-10 | BZFlag: 03atupone * 10bzflag/src/bzfs/bzfs.cxx: calibrating autoteam: currently teams go unfairly against lower team |
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| 18:18.14 | Tupone | bzflag changes to the explosion behaviour should be removed or fixed :( |
| 18:18.42 | _Manu_ | i agree.. |
| 18:39.02 | JeffM2501 | what changed? |
| 18:39.26 | Tupone | the camera view is ugly now :( you go up and down |
| 18:39.45 | Tupone | while from the outside is better |
| 18:40.02 | _Manu_ | heh.. now driving with another player as observer.. when he get killed.. you start turning over and over.. two times |
| 18:40.03 | Tupone | I think MrAC made the explosion better, |
| 18:40.34 | Tupone | but the main view is ugly |
| 18:41.57 | JeffM2501 | didnt you allways go up then down? |
| 18:42.27 | Tupone | that was with an horizontal camera. Now the camera is pointing up and down |
| 18:42.44 | Tupone | twice or three times |
| 18:43.21 | Tupone | you should play with the new version and see what happen when you get killed |
| 18:44.10 | JeffM2501 | eqq |
| 18:44.12 | JeffM2501 | eww |
| 18:44.15 | JeffM2501 | why look at the sky? |
| 18:44.26 | JeffM2501 | like the camera is spinning around X? |
| 18:44.43 | Tupone | yeah |
| 18:44.51 | JeffM2501 | icky |
| 18:44.51 | Tupone | I dunno what did it |
| 18:45.09 | JeffM2501 | I'd personaly back the camera out to 3rd person slowly when you die, so you can see the explosion |
| 18:45.13 | JeffM2501 | like out the "back" of the tank |
| 18:45.21 | JeffM2501 | then you can see who's around you |
| 18:45.23 | JeffM2501 | maybe how you died |
| 18:45.34 | JeffM2501 | but make it take no more then 2-4 seconds |
| 18:45.57 | jpa_ | it would make me feel sick |
| 18:46.19 | JeffM2501 | maybe just an option for "fast camera death" where you stay still with cracked lense |
| 18:46.20 | jpa_ | providing that i die quite often |
| 18:46.38 | Tupone | in fact, I removed locally for that. Except that I'm actually sick |
| 18:46.48 | JeffM2501 | heh |
| 18:49.09 | CIA-10 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10BZFlagG3D/readme: notes on cam death player prefs. |
| 18:49.18 | Grumbler | should add a few sounds to mix in as well.....screaming people, etc |
| 18:49.20 | jpa_ | hmm.. i found 50e while cleaning my desk today |
| 18:49.34 | jpa_ | i could buy a new 3d card and make JeffM2501 happy |
| 18:49.36 | Tupone | can we share ? |
| 18:49.41 | JeffM2501 | heh |
| 18:49.43 | JeffM2501 | you should :) |
| 18:49.50 | JeffM2501 | it would make YOU happy |
| 18:49.55 | jpa_ | hmm |
| 18:50.20 | jpa_ | njah, it hasn't been long ago after i bought this tnt2 |
| 18:50.34 | JeffM2501 | how old is the TnT2? |
| 18:50.36 | jpa_ | s/ago/enough/ |
| 18:50.40 | jpa_ | old |
| 18:50.48 | jpa_ | but for me, it is brand new :) |
| 18:50.48 | JeffM2501 | how long ago did you buy it? |
| 18:51.02 | jpa_ | two months or so |
| 18:51.06 | JeffM2501 | oh my |
| 18:51.14 | jpa_ | after you told that voodoo2 wouldn't run bzflag |
| 18:51.19 | JeffM2501 | you actualy PAID for a card that recently? |
| 18:51.32 | JeffM2501 | who was the criminal that took your money |
| 18:51.37 | jpa_ | x) |
| 18:51.48 | JeffM2501 | heck GF2's are old |
| 18:51.56 | jpa_ | you told me to buy a real 3d card.. |
| 18:52.00 | jpa_ | tnt2 sounded promising |
| 18:52.06 | JeffM2501 | yeah I meant a GF2MX |
| 18:52.10 | JeffM2501 | that is a real card |
| 18:52.14 | JeffM2501 | TNT is better |
| 18:52.20 | JeffM2501 | but not up to "real" standards |
| 18:52.23 | JeffM2501 | real == GPU |
| 18:52.28 | jpa_ | and i thought it would be silent too, because it had no fan |
| 18:52.36 | JeffM2501 | MX2's don't have fans ether |
| 18:52.45 | JeffM2501 | most FX5200's don't as well |
| 18:53.16 | jpa_ | hm, wonder what card my sisters pc has.. |
| 18:53.20 | jpa_ | i could steal it :) |
| 18:53.25 | JeffM2501 | heh |
| 18:53.49 | jpa_ | it was something that mandrake 8.1 didn't have support for with xfree 4, but had to use xfree3 |
| 18:54.08 | JeffM2501 | that would be odd |
| 18:54.16 | JeffM2501 | then it's not an nvidia or an ATI |
| 18:54.23 | JeffM2501 | and if it's nether of those, why bother |
| 18:54.35 | jpa_ | i mean it didn't have accerelation |
| 18:54.40 | jpa_ | and it was only at the time |
| 18:54.46 | jpa_ | it was some nvidia i remember |
| 18:54.56 | jpa_ | and it runs tuxracer fine :) |
| 18:54.57 | JeffM2501 | all nividias have accelelration |
| 18:54.59 | bryjen | the jump from xfree 3 to 4 was a big one, all the drivers weren't ready at .0 |
| 18:55.02 | JeffM2501 | of some sort |
| 18:55.07 | jpa_ | nowadays, yes |
| 18:55.21 | jpa_ | but back then it might not have had in xfree4 |
| 18:55.28 | JeffM2501 | even the NV1 has accelleration |
| 18:55.32 | JeffM2501 | tho no drivers |
| 18:55.41 | jpa_ | it was over a year ago |
| 18:56.04 | JeffM2501 | as long as it's not a riva 128 it's better then what you have. |
| 18:56.17 | jpa_ | it might have been... :) |
| 18:56.28 | JeffM2501 | that's even more eww then a TnT |
| 18:56.42 | JeffM2501 | tho not as bad as a S3 Verge |
| 18:56.49 | JeffM2501 | worlds first 3d Decellerator |
| 18:57.22 | jpa_ | hmm.. i have this one.. ati 3d rage II+DVD |
| 18:58.35 | JeffM2501 | icky |
| 18:58.40 | blast007 | yup |
| 18:58.58 | JeffM2501 | if it don't say radeon, or geForce, just put it back |
| 18:59.20 | gina | nvidia FX5200 is perfect, no sound:) |
| 18:59.43 | JeffM2501 | 5200 is a nice little card for the price |
| 18:59.46 | JeffM2501 | even has shaders |
| 18:59.59 | jpa_ | gina: give it to me |
| 19:00.19 | gina | I've two of them :) |
| 19:00.29 | JeffM2501 | they just work |
| 19:00.34 | JeffM2501 | and they send me free cards |
| 19:00.38 | JeffM2501 | :) |
| 19:00.43 | gina | could I combine two for double fps?? :p |
| 19:00.51 | JeffM2501 | on the 5200 line |
| 19:00.52 | JeffM2501 | no |
| 19:01.00 | JeffM2501 | on the PCIexpress 6800 line, yes |
| 19:01.06 | JeffM2501 | if you have a dual express mbob |
| 19:01.12 | blast007 | SLI :D |
| 19:01.16 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 19:01.19 | blast007 | that would be nice... |
| 19:01.37 | jpa_ | could i combine tnt2, riva 128 and voodoo2? |
| 19:01.40 | JeffM2501 | there is an nforce4 board that will do it :) |
| 19:01.41 | gina | mmmm |
| 19:01.44 | JeffM2501 | jpa_, no |
| 19:01.50 | JeffM2501 | has to be the exact same card |
| 19:01.52 | jpa_ | why not? |
| 19:01.56 | jpa_ | why? |
| 19:02.03 | JeffM2501 | tho you can with 2 Vooddo 2's |
| 19:02.04 | jpa_ | couldn't you make some code to make it possible? |
| 19:02.08 | JeffM2501 | because the drivers don't do it |
| 19:02.13 | JeffM2501 | it's not an app thing |
| 19:02.16 | JeffM2501 | it's a driver thing |
| 19:02.22 | gina | could I combine 2 nvidia FX5200, one onboard i815, one onboard i845, two RIVA 128 and one ATI? |
| 19:02.23 | jpa_ | hmph :( |
| 19:02.39 | JeffM2501 | umm no |
| 19:02.40 | gina | lol |
| 19:02.45 | blast007 | ick, intel extreme(ly bad) graphics |
| 19:02.56 | jpa_ | if i had three displays, running each at 800x600, could bzflag render to each of them? :) |
| 19:02.57 | JeffM2501 | basicly the driver sends the same commands to both cards |
| 19:03.01 | jpa_ | ha! |
| 19:03.09 | JeffM2501 | bzflag can't, but that is posible in app code |
| 19:03.11 | jpa_ | is i815 better than tnt2? |
| 19:03.14 | JeffM2501 | no |
| 19:03.17 | jpa_ | :( |
| 19:03.24 | JeffM2501 | the TNT at least has a compliant GL implementation |
| 19:03.25 | jpa_ | what about i845? |
| 19:03.32 | JeffM2501 | same crap just faster crap |
| 19:03.40 | JeffM2501 | and those arn't cards |
| 19:03.44 | JeffM2501 | they are motherboard chipsets |
| 19:03.48 | JeffM2501 | using them slows down the system |
| 19:03.50 | jpa_ | i think i have one of them on the other mobo |
| 19:04.05 | JeffM2501 | ohh your a P4 person |
| 19:04.13 | JeffM2501 | "P4 just pay more" |
| 19:05.09 | jpa_ | oh, i'm not |
| 19:05.17 | jpa_ | i'm not using the another mobo |
| 19:05.22 | jpa_ | and it has celeron, anyway |
| 19:05.26 | JeffM2501 | oh |
| 19:05.29 | JeffM2501 | I'm sorry |
| 19:05.31 | jpa_ | this one is athlon xp :) |
| 19:05.36 | JeffM2501 | fun |
| 19:05.49 | JeffM2501 | go get an nforce2 mobo, it'll have a GF2MX on it |
| 19:05.54 | JeffM2501 | then you'll be done |
| 19:06.07 | gina | mmm |
| 19:06.21 | jpa_ | will it have more serial ports than the one i have on this? |
| 19:06.30 | JeffM2501 | serial ports? |
| 19:06.38 | JeffM2501 | most mobos don't even have them now |
| 19:06.42 | jpa_ | :( |
| 19:06.47 | JeffM2501 | why would you need serial? |
| 19:06.57 | jpa_ | because i'm into electronics |
| 19:07.03 | JeffM2501 | got a CNC machine or a pumchtape? |
| 19:07.05 | JeffM2501 | USB man |
| 19:07.07 | JeffM2501 | it's all about USB |
| 19:07.45 | jpa_ | my pic prommer takes up one port, digicamera cable takes another one, ir rx/tx takes one, and i would like to have one more anyway :) |
| 19:08.00 | JeffM2501 | USB! |
| 19:08.16 | JeffM2501 | they have USB serial ports |
| 19:08.22 | JeffM2501 | digicam over serial |
| 19:08.22 | jpa_ | yup :/ |
| 19:08.25 | JeffM2501 | how ... slow |
| 19:08.34 | jpa_ | no, not at all ,) |
| 19:08.48 | JeffM2501 | if your into electronics you should be able to bust out a USB controller like nothin |
| 19:08.53 | JeffM2501 | scanline does it in his sleep |
| 19:09.26 | *** join/#bzflag anoompaloompa (~86f4d0b0@webchat.bzflag.bz) |
| 19:09.41 | jpa_ | hmph :( |
| 19:09.53 | anoompaloompa | how do you create your own map |
| 19:10.00 | JeffM2501 | with a text editor |
| 19:10.00 | blast007 | with notepad |
| 19:10.02 | gina | with vim |
| 19:10.06 | blast007 | hehe |
| 19:10.09 | jpa_ | with kate |
| 19:10.17 | gina | with my private mapper :) |
| 19:10.18 | JeffM2501 | maps are just text files |
| 19:10.23 | anoompaloompa | um.. how |
| 19:10.24 | JeffM2501 | there are a couple editors |
| 19:10.26 | jpa_ | or with bzmap! |
| 19:10.42 | anoompaloompa | ok thnx |
| 19:10.42 | jpa_ | bzmap is the best, the most useful and the most modern solution! |
| 19:10.47 | gina | with some luck you could even use ms word |
| 19:10.50 | JeffM2501 | first helps to read the bzw manpage |
| 19:10.57 | anoompaloompa | where do you get bzmap |
| 19:11.00 | JeffM2501 | and understand what you can do |
| 19:11.09 | jpa_ | anoompaloompa: it is a python library |
| 19:11.10 | JeffM2501 | bzedit is on sourceforge |
| 19:11.22 | jpa_ | anoompaloompa: if you can't program, do not bother |
| 19:11.24 | JeffM2501 | there are links to other ediors on my.bzflag.org/bb if you search |
| 19:11.25 | *** join/#bzflag _bubbles_ (~nadic666@70.48.29.35) |
| 19:11.28 | blast007 | google is your friend, as it knows all |
| 19:11.36 | anoompaloompa | lol |
| 19:11.37 | anoompaloompa | k |
| 19:11.43 | JeffM2501 | what OS do you run? |
| 19:11.46 | JeffM2501 | or not |
| 19:11.49 | jpa_ | :) |
| 19:11.52 | blast007 | :) |
| 19:11.52 | gina | www.google.com/search?blast007 |
| 19:12.02 | JeffM2501 | at least it wasn't "how do I run a server??" |
| 19:12.08 | jpa_ | yup |
| 19:12.17 | gina | mmmm |
| 19:12.26 | gina | 45000 hits on "psychiatry" |
| 19:12.26 | jpa_ | gina: ?q=blast... |
| 19:13.00 | gina | www.google.com?q=jpa_&sane |
| 19:13.02 | jpa_ | hmm.. blast007 seems a lot like nolifer |
| 19:13.03 | gina | mmmmm |
| 19:13.10 | gina | no hits |
| 19:13.21 | blast007 | nolifer? |
| 19:13.28 | gina | "are you sure you did not want to look for insane jpa?" |
| 19:13.54 | jpa_ | gina: you typo those urls all the time! |
| 19:14.10 | jpa_ | at first, it is +, not & |
| 19:14.12 | gina | you *actually* checked that jpa ? |
| 19:14.13 | gina | lol |
| 19:14.23 | jpa_ | second, it is www.google.com/search?q=jpa... |
| 19:14.36 | JeffM2501 | they get thru his tin foil hat |
| 19:14.45 | jpa_ | arghh! |
| 19:14.56 | jpa_ | how does JeffM2501 know about _that_? |
| 19:15.06 | JeffM2501 | timecube |
| 19:15.08 | JeffM2501 | it knows all |
| 19:20.03 | gina | heh |
| 19:20.18 | gina | so you know already I killed you tomorrow??? |
| 19:20.23 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 19:20.45 | JeffM2501 | but you don't know I was faking |
| 19:21.00 | gina | mmm |
| 19:21.02 | gina | stupid me |
| 19:21.17 | gina | I've changed future by telling I am going to kill ya |
| 19:21.33 | gina | but now I know you're faking when you die tomorrow |
| 19:21.49 | gina | you know on wednesday I'll use a real gun :) |
| 19:25.52 | JeffM2501 | but you don't know I know you know that I know you know. |
| 19:26.12 | gina | you know, |
| 19:26.16 | gina | i didn't know |
| 19:26.21 | JeffM2501 | whats a prety lady need a gun for anway? |
| 19:26.51 | gina | too much attraction :) |
| 19:27.06 | ruskie | kik |
| 19:27.09 | ruskie | lol even |
| 19:27.10 | ruskie | bah... |
| 19:27.16 | ruskie | typing funky... |
| 19:28.17 | JeffM2501 | ahh |
| 19:28.23 | JeffM2501 | well that's understandable |
| 19:28.38 | JeffM2501 | mace just dosn't cut it anymore? |
| 19:28.43 | ruskie | :)) |
| 19:28.50 | JeffM2501 | the glow of your beauty just cuts right thru it? |
| 19:28.52 | ruskie | hmm maybe a whip... ? |
| 19:29.06 | JeffM2501 | naw, many guys like those |
| 19:30.26 | *** join/#bzflag Thumper_ (~bernt@CPE000102d0fe24-CM0012256ecbde.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 19:30.45 | jpa_ | hi thumper |
| 19:32.21 | *** join/#bzflag rabbit25 (~rabbit25@pcp03852369pcs.martnz01.ga.comcast.net) |
| 19:32.24 | rabbit25 | hi |
| 19:33.57 | rabbit25 | no! |
| 19:34.00 | rabbit25 | not again~ |
| 19:34.03 | rabbit25 | ! |
| 19:34.05 | rabbit25 | aii! |
| 19:34.08 | jpa_ | :E |
| 19:34.18 | jpa_ | ...mmm...delicious |
| 19:34.23 | *** join/#bzflag xerath (terje@blupp.no) |
| 19:34.26 | Birdie | birds are better |
| 19:34.43 | jpa_ | ..mmm...not true |
| 19:34.47 | Birdie | :) |
| 19:34.47 | jpa_ | rabbit was better |
| 19:35.06 | jpa_ | but bird will do too, if all the rabbits have been eaten |
| 19:35.11 | ttje | How come some players are able to drive/move faster than others? I'm talking about flagless tanks here... |
| 19:35.16 | rabbit25 | ? |
| 19:35.20 | rabbit25 | cheats? |
| 19:35.24 | ttje | no |
| 19:35.39 | jpa_ | handicap |
| 19:35.43 | ttje | no cheats, players that have never played before, and almost exclusivly players using the keyboard to steer with |
| 19:35.55 | ttje | handicap? |
| 19:36.03 | jpa_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:36.07 | jpa_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:36.10 | jpa_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:36.25 | ttje | ah |
| 19:36.28 | jpa_ | if you have that on, it will do it |
| 19:36.36 | ruskie | cute |
| 19:36.53 | JeffM2501 | or they are cheating |
| 19:36.58 | JeffM2501 | or your REALY lagy |
| 19:37.01 | rabbit25 | yup |
| 19:37.03 | Grumbler | they all cheat. ban'em |
| 19:37.15 | JeffM2501 | ban em all, let Gina sort them out |
| 19:37.30 | ttje | :D |
| 19:37.41 | blast007 | heh |
| 19:37.46 | Grumbler | its gina now, i thought it was orchid....or was that sportchick.....one them |
| 19:37.53 | ttje | thanks! |
| 19:37.54 | *** part/#bzflag ttje (terje@blupp.no) |
| 19:37.58 | JeffM2501 | orhicd dosn't have a gun |
| 19:38.05 | blast007 | if they were moving faster (and cheating to do it), it should kick them |
| 19:38.13 | blast007 | unless they got around it |
| 19:38.24 | JeffM2501 | there are a couple ways around it |
| 19:38.39 | blast007 | yup |
| 19:38.57 | Grumbler | they use the dark side |
| 19:39.05 | rabbit25 | lol |
| 19:39.15 | blast007 | Force Speed |
| 19:39.32 | JeffM2501 | it's all about knight leap! |
| 19:40.22 | Grumbler | dun,dun,dun,dundd,dun,dadun,dadun |
| 19:40.36 | JeffM2501 | and dual wielding lightsabers |
| 19:41.01 | Grumbler | theres a new flag for ya |
| 19:41.10 | ruskie | lol |
| 19:41.40 | Grumbler | isnt #3 coming out soon or something |
| 19:41.41 | ruskie | <-- would like more short range weapons... |
| 19:42.06 | JeffM2501 | 2 just hit the PC a month or so ago |
| 19:42.40 | rabbit25 | anyone want to play an official 1vs1 match , 2.0? |
| 19:43.09 | Grumbler | nobody in bzleague would bite, eh there rabbit25 |
| 19:43.22 | gina | JeffM2501: lol |
| 19:43.29 | rabbit25 | nope... |
| 19:44.06 | Grumbler | (to aerosmith) gina's got a gun....la la la al |
| 19:44.53 | JeffM2501 | I think she has more then one |
| 19:45.25 | gina | JeffM2501: one for tomorrow, one for wednesday |
| 19:45.51 | JeffM2501 | in case I duck? |
| 19:45.59 | ruskie | lol |
| 19:47.20 | jpa_ | oh, jpa_ didn't get hit! |
| 19:47.31 | jpa_ | the bullet went just by and hit ruskie in the head |
| 19:47.50 | rabbit25 | lolol |
| 19:48.40 | ruskie | magog infestation!!!! |
| 19:49.08 | JeffM2501 | but my horoscope says I'm to have a decent week |
| 19:49.18 | JeffM2501 | you have one just for slaughter? |
| 19:49.19 | jpa_ | JeffM2501: yes, you are, until you die |
| 19:49.27 | JeffM2501 | does that mean you have one just for maiming? |
| 19:49.36 | JeffM2501 | and one for clubing |
| 19:49.42 | rabbit25 | my horrorscope says im going to get shot by an AK-47... |
| 19:49.58 | *** join/#bzflag stevek (~sgk284@ws81.cs.drexel.edu) |
| 19:50.06 | jpa_ | hi sgk284 <3<333<3 |
| 19:53.47 | JeffM2501 | actualy my horoscope basicly says I'm gonna get some tomorow |
| 19:54.15 | Grumbler | JeffM2501< better make sure you are stocked up then |
| 19:54.34 | ruskie | hmmm I don't belive in horrorscopes... |
| 19:54.52 | Grumbler | yeah, i never trust mummys either |
| 19:54.59 | rabbit25 | i dont either really.. but they are funny to read sometimes |
| 19:55.03 | jpa_ | i did before this |
| 19:55.23 | jpa_ | but either that horoscope is terribly wrong or JeffM2501 just reads it wrong :) |
| 19:55.30 | JeffM2501 | stocked on what? |
| 19:56.03 | Grumbler | medicine cabinet...it is LA after all. |
| 19:56.19 | JeffM2501 | I'm going to need pepto? |
| 19:56.26 | *** join/#bzflag _Manu_ (~jujibo@98.Red-80-36-59.pooles.rima-tde.net) |
| 19:57.12 | Grumbler | i see where this conversation is going, and i am going to step away now. |
| 19:57.27 | JeffM2501 | heh |
| 20:01.28 | Grumbler | general question, what are the possible causes for all my material layers ending up to be the same?.......is there an order in the map file that is necessary? ....when i open the bzflag server every texture is the same except the grass and the boundary walls. |
| 20:01.57 | jpa_ | have you seen my howtos already? :) |
| 20:02.22 | JeffM2501 | the textures can't be found |
| 20:02.23 | jpa_ | http://www.kapsi.fi/~jpa/stuff/bzw/ |
| 20:02.25 | JeffM2501 | the names are wrong |
| 20:02.31 | JeffM2501 | that kinda stuff |
| 20:02.47 | JeffM2501 | the only order thing is basicly, define it before you use it. |
| 20:02.50 | jpa_ | also misused matref etc |
| 20:03.01 | JeffM2501 | that's what I mean by names wrong |
| 20:04.54 | Grumbler | ok, i will look.....i building off the ocean map, and after adding my textures/materials above, it all sort of went green |
| 20:05.45 | Grumbler | i wonder if i have to remove all those unsupport constructs after modeltool transformation |
| 20:06.50 | jpa_ | hmm |
| 20:07.07 | jpa_ | had i used material names in ocean or just matref numbers.. |
| 20:09.15 | Grumbler | material #matref 0, rocks |
| 20:12.03 | *** join/#bzflag Chikorita (~462008fc@rw08.de) |
| 20:13.54 | Grumbler | hey chicky |
| 20:14.07 | Chikorita | hi grumbla |
| 20:14.29 | Grumbler | how is the campus holding up with not getting an invitation to the big dance |
| 20:14.58 | Chikorita | heh |
| 20:15.10 | Grumbler | no riots, or burning of benches? |
| 20:15.23 | Chikorita | i dunno |
| 20:15.30 | Chikorita | i had otha plans |
| 20:15.44 | Chikorita | b/f an i goin biking |
| 20:16.00 | Chikorita | gues wee didnt get any sn0 afterall |
| 20:16.06 | Chikorita | =) |
| 20:16.19 | Grumbler | you still in the area?....snow what snow? |
| 20:16.46 | Chikorita | yea , xactly |
| 20:17.06 | Chikorita | dey were callin 4 sn0 buh ther was none |
| 20:17.15 | Chikorita | which iz ok wif mee too ;) |
| 20:17.29 | Chikorita | ~weather khgr |
| 20:17.55 | Birdie | brrr 39.9F |
| 20:17.56 | Grumbler | yeah, its nice on the island |
| 20:17.57 | Chikorita | i hope hepcat overlord comes back soon =P |
| 20:18.10 | Chikorita | hi birdieeee |
| 20:18.23 | Birdie | hi chicoritaaaaaaaa |
| 20:18.33 | Birdie | chiKo* |
| 20:18.38 | Chikorita | Birdie: ~birdiesnack |
| 20:18.45 | Chikorita | omg |
| 20:18.50 | Chikorita | dat reminds mee |
| 20:18.58 | Birdie | i know what you are thinking |
| 20:18.59 | Birdie | :) |
| 20:19.00 | Chikorita | i havent fed ibot in a long time |
| 20:19.13 | Chikorita | ~botsnack tofu chips |
| 20:19.13 | ibot | :), Chikorita |
| 20:19.17 | Chikorita | =) |
| 20:19.24 | Birdie | lol! |
| 20:19.35 | Birdie | you are making poor ibot fat |
| 20:20.54 | *** join/#bzflag _Manu_ (~jujibo@98.Red-80-36-59.pooles.rima-tde.net) |
| 20:21.47 | Chikorita | nnot wif tofu chips ;) |
| 20:21.55 | Chikorita | lo- fat |
| 20:22.06 | *** join/#bzflag RoMy (~none@cs181034245.pp.htv.fi) |
| 20:22.13 | Chikorita | birdiesnax have hi cholesterol |
| 20:22.18 | Birdie | lol! |
| 20:22.18 | Chikorita | hi romy! |
| 20:22.32 | RoMy | hey chiko |
| 20:22.32 | Chikorita | heehe |
| 20:22.43 | Birdie | birdies are good for every one, good for your health |
| 20:22.53 | Birdie | hi romy |
| 20:23.01 | RoMy | evening birdie |
| 20:23.07 | *** part/#bzflag Chikorita (~462008fc@rw08.de) |
| 20:24.48 | menotume | brlcad talks to himself too much |
| 20:26.51 | brlcad | define .. "too much" :) |
| 20:27.04 | brlcad | who's to say what's too much these days |
| 20:28.33 | jpa_ | too much is > 0 |
| 20:28.41 | jpa_ | too little is <= 0 |
| 20:28.58 | jpa_ | and some wonder why jpa_ is never satisfied with himself |
| 20:29.03 | gina | heh |
| 20:31.25 | Birdie | chestal: ping |
| 20:33.01 | Grumbler | cheap |
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| 20:44.42 | orchid | heh, I guess he fired her, he didnt seem to have a sense of humour |
| 20:45.10 | brlcad | but that would be cheap of him |
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| 20:53.37 | stevek | hey jpa_ <3<3<3 |
| 20:54.14 | stevek | heh that probably makes no sense to anyone who didnt see what he said to me |
| 20:56.23 | orchid | 3 hearts in a row, you love him alot, it makes perfect sense |
| 20:56.37 | stevek | haha |
| 20:56.44 | stevek | typical woman |
| 20:56.45 | stevek | ;) |
| 20:56.48 | orchid | you guys are so cute |
| 20:56.58 | stevek | lol |
| 20:57.09 | ruskie | hmm |
| 20:57.32 | orchid | :) |
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| 21:01.03 | JeffM2501 | did someone say something about kicking? |
| 21:01.07 | cosmos | anyone seen silverfox, curious where the hepcat servers went |
| 21:01.59 | orchid | hi Birdie |
| 21:02.02 | Pimpinella | ~bzflist |
| 21:02.24 | stevek | JeffM2501, heh :) |
| 21:02.30 | stevek | hows g3d coming along |
| 21:02.31 | stevek | ? |
| 21:02.49 | Pimpinella | cosmos: was overlord down or just not listed? |
| 21:02.51 | JeffM2501 | got the client and server loging into IRC |
| 21:02.54 | stevek | cosmos, new york had a huge outage today |
| 21:02.55 | cosmos | i think its down |
| 21:02.59 | Pimpinella | ic |
| 21:02.59 | stevek | not sure if they are back up |
| 21:03.00 | cosmos | i havnt seen it in awhile |
| 21:03.04 | JeffM2501 | and requesting names and stuff |
| 21:03.24 | cosmos | not sure where silvers servers are physically located |
| 21:03.24 | Pimpinella | viper was vanished from the list too earlier |
| 21:03.33 | Pimpinella | had to restart it |
| 21:03.42 | cosmos | ahh |
| 21:04.10 | Pimpinella | i would have tried, but i can't remember operlords port |
| 21:05.14 | cosmos | neither can i |
| 21:05.23 | cosmos | have to kick silver in the butt to bounce em |
| 21:06.29 | brad2901 | cosmos, read at hepcat.bzflag.org/forum |
| 21:07.05 | cosmos | thats a url i havnt seen before ok |
| 21:08.27 | brad2901 | err, sry, it's '/forums/' not '/forum/' |
| 21:08.27 | cosmos | oh i see, hes just as fed up as i was |
| 21:08.32 | brad2901 | yeah |
| 21:08.41 | cosmos | thats why hes running them not me, i was going to shoot people in real life |
| 21:09.00 | JeffM2501 | babysiting can be a taxing job |
| 21:09.14 | cosmos | i got tired of the death threats, denial of service attacks etc |
| 21:09.17 | cosmos | not worth it |
| 21:09.32 | JeffM2501 | aww you mean you didn't enjoy the redsox fan? :) |
| 21:09.42 | cosmos | just one of many i didnt enjoy |
| 21:10.05 | JeffM2501 | he's gonna help Tim with the game he says |
| 21:10.12 | cosmos | hahaha |
| 21:11.08 | JeffM2501 | yeah I'm waiting |
| 21:13.13 | cosmos | he can help with the spamming and threats module |
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| 21:14.52 | brad2901 | cosmos, people _actually_ sent you death threats? |
| 21:21.24 | cosmos | yeah |
| 21:21.49 | cosmos | mostly through the /report |
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| 21:24.38 | brad2901 | you put all the time and money into putting up a server, and there sad enough to send you death-threats and whatever else they did |
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| 21:28.00 | cosmos | yeah. as soon as you ban/kick/change something the crap rolls in |
| 21:28.16 | cosmos | when they were at their peak of 30-40 players it got quite unruly |
| 21:28.21 | JeffM2501 | this is why there needs to be a way to stab people over the internet |
| 21:28.26 | Grumbler | why not disable /report |
| 21:28.41 | Grumbler | and just mute everyone |
| 21:28.42 | cosmos | well they come in and spam the server then. then they spam our forums |
| 21:28.46 | cosmos | etc etc |
| 21:28.49 | cosmos | so you ban one |
| 21:28.51 | cosmos | another pops up |
| 21:28.54 | JeffM2501 | there is a new "talk" perm :) |
| 21:29.10 | JeffM2501 | you could make people unable to talk by default |
| 21:29.13 | Grumbler | people dont need to chat to play bz :) |
| 21:29.23 | Grumbler | ~orchid++ |
| 21:29.35 | cosmos | need someway to cause the troublemakers computer to explode |
| 21:29.37 | JeffM2501 | I'm doing it with IRC, you can just +q the troublemakers :) |
| 21:30.08 | JeffM2501 | hmm, bot rules could look for the same message 3x, or 2 lines in a row all caps and auto quiet them :) |
| 21:30.38 | cosmos | the racist spamming was a nice touch too |
| 21:30.50 | JeffM2501 | why do people get off on that? |
| 21:30.54 | JeffM2501 | are they just that boored? |
| 21:31.01 | Grumbler | cosmos< now, i am not saying anything...buuuut, i may know some people who know some people.......who could make these more "friendly" |
| 21:31.30 | JeffM2501 | "I know some people who know some people, who rob some people" |
| 21:31.57 | Grumbler | rob is such an ugly word.....permanently borrow |
| 21:32.18 | JeffM2501 | "aquired in a game of chance" |
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| 21:37.13 | cosmos | ok i put overlord back up |
| 21:37.17 | cosmos | on my server |
| 21:37.48 | brad2901 | thanks cosmos, hopefully the idiots will keep away |
| 21:37.58 | Pimpinella | cosmos: where's the thread that makes you beleve silverfox is fed up with the stuff? |
| 21:38.24 | cosmos | its on the hepcat.bzflag.org/forums |
| 21:38.43 | brad2901 | http://hepcat.bzflag.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=266&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0&sid=747d913be52198cc6bb509fc7757313a |
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| 21:47.20 | cosmos | ~bzflist |
| 21:56.22 | orchid | cosmos on the hepcat memberlist pages, many of the players have a www button pointing to the same pages, one in .ru, and another car insurance site, just seems odd to me |
| 22:03.25 | Pimpinella | actually i'm surprised, i don't have a fraction of complainers swearers and stuff as there seem to be on hepcat |
| 22:04.14 | Pimpinella | neither dos attacks, they stopped months ago |
| 22:04.25 | orange | I haven't heard of many dos attacks recently either |
| 22:05.00 | orange | as to the other stuff... I think a lot of it stems from a personal vendetta that redsoxfan90 and his "friends" had against cosmos and others involved in hepcat |
| 22:05.17 | orange | childish crap, of course, but there it is |
| 22:06.34 | Pimpinella | how about banning comcast? |
| 22:06.43 | Pimpinella | sure this will hit many innocents |
| 22:07.17 | orange | I think silverfox may work for comcast |
| 22:07.28 | orange | so I'm not sure that'd fly |
| 22:07.37 | theEnemy | how about -requireidentify ? |
| 22:09.02 | orange | possibly... truly, most of the crap had died down |
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| 22:17.27 | brad2901 | ~bzflist |
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| 23:43.12 | spldart | Questions to various server admins.... |
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| 23:43.50 | spldart | If you had a user constantly /reporting useless crap would you ban him? |
| 23:44.08 | JeffM2501 | generaly up to your anoyance level |
| 23:44.15 | JeffM2501 | it's your server you can do what ever you want. |
| 23:44.28 | spldart | I just didn't want to be unreasonable |
| 23:44.29 | JeffM2501 | I'dd tell him to shut it a couple times |
| 23:44.33 | spldart | I assume he's a kid |
| 23:44.34 | JeffM2501 | then ban him |
| 23:44.38 | spldart | OK |
| 23:44.38 | JeffM2501 | for like a day |
| 23:45.07 | JeffM2501 | here and the board I try to use the 3 strikes thing |
| 23:45.30 | spldart | Thanks for the input. I was thinking of being unreasonable *pulls hair out* |
| 23:45.34 | JeffM2501 | Unless Ive consumed over 12% of a cube of wine. |
| 23:45.54 | spldart | LOL |
| 23:46.01 | spldart | Red or White? |
| 23:46.12 | JeffM2501 | red |
| 23:46.18 | spldart | Me too :D |
| 23:46.38 | spldart | I like a good cabernet sauvignon |
| 23:46.51 | JeffM2501 | I perfer merlot or saras |
| 23:47.00 | spldart | kew |
| 23:47.16 | JeffM2501 | tho some cabs are good |
| 23:47.51 | spldart | I like some burgundies too |
| 23:48.25 | spldart | Oooops. I'm getting off topic again. |
| 23:48.31 | JeffM2501 | heh |
| 23:51.23 | spldart | 10 messages in the last 24 hours. All cleaned out now. |
| 23:51.44 | spldart | This is the kid I was thinking of making a cop.... NOT |
| 23:51.58 | JeffM2501 | anyone who asks to be admin, souldn't be an admin :) |
| 23:52.04 | JeffM2501 | what name? |
| 23:52.09 | spldart | I agree |
| 23:52.28 | spldart | Call Of Honor1.... Somebody here already mentioned that he might not be a good choice. |
| 23:52.31 | JeffM2501 | heh |
| 23:52.33 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 23:52.36 | JeffM2501 | he's a freak |
| 23:52.43 | spldart | LOL |
| 23:52.52 | JeffM2501 | makes sense that he'd beg too |
| 23:53.39 | spldart | IC... I think he must be 11 or something. And possibly precocious in real life. |
| 23:53.47 | JeffM2501 | he says he's 19 |
| 23:53.50 | JeffM2501 | I think he's 14 |
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| 23:59.23 | spldart | I really love the fire object. I have my pyramids in the sky looking like burning incense cones :-) |
| 23:59.40 | spldart | I wish I could make those kinds of things. |
