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| 01:13.51 | TimRiker | ~bzfquery hepcat.tybox.net:5155 |
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| 01:21.44 | orchid | !seen JeffM2501 |
| 01:21.45 | guu | orchid: JeffM2501 was last seen here 1 hour, 44 minutes, and 23 seconds ago saying: <JeffM2501> we'll take your word for that |
| 01:25.10 | menotume | well, TimRiker, you could at least give them a good connection :) |
| 01:27.48 | orchid | "Get your computer fixed, and make money of doing it!" interesting spam of the day |
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| 01:36.52 | TimRiker | menotume: yeah, comcast sucks |
| 01:40.40 | menotume | bummer, my comcast here is good |
| 01:54.53 | brlcad | egads.. too many private messages |
| 01:55.43 | uidzero | ~bzfquery bzflag.bsdhacker.org |
| 02:03.56 | brlcad | ~dict whimsical |
| 02:04.50 | CIA-10 | BZFlag: 03dtremenak * 10bzflag/win32/VC71/bzfs.vcproj: duplicate file (belongs in game) |
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| 03:48.51 | orange | ~seen mebigfatguy |
| 03:48.53 | ibot | mebigfatguy is currently on #bzflag (1h 33m 41s) |
| 03:49.04 | orange | uh, how odd, nick completion didn't work :-) |
| 03:49.14 | orange | MeBigFatGuy: ping |
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| 03:55.39 | MeBigFatGuy | pong |
| 03:56.29 | orange | a couple months ago we discussed a /kill command and you expressed some interest in it... did you ever look at it for feasibility? |
| 03:56.56 | MeBigFatGuy | no .. and don't recall... senility and all that, ya know |
| 03:57.44 | orange | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:58.09 | orange | but would kill the user instead... would be a fantastic 'intermediate' tool between verbal warnings and kicks |
| 03:58.19 | orange | you seemed to like the idea at the time |
| 03:58.23 | orange | :-) |
| 03:58.33 | MeBigFatGuy | hmmm, if you say so... :) |
| 03:59.04 | orange | as long as you're believing me, you said you'd get it all coded up by march 8th... I just wanted to remind you that date is approaching |
| 03:59.09 | orange | :-) |
| 03:59.19 | MeBigFatGuy | heh |
| 03:59.55 | MeBigFatGuy | i defer all to trepan, these days. |
| 04:00.27 | orange | fair enough... I was just wondering if you'd even investigated at all, and what you might have found |
| 04:00.41 | MeBigFatGuy | i'm sure it would be simple to do |
| 04:00.59 | orange | does the server already send any kill messages to clients? |
| 04:01.11 | orange | or would it require a client mod? |
| 04:01.20 | Grumbler | MeBigFatGuy< ....and dont you remember you were going to buy me and learner a couple of beers at rams head tavern? |
| 04:01.21 | JBdiGriz | It's always simpler if someone else is doing it. :) |
| 04:01.21 | MeBigFatGuy | i think so |
| 04:01.29 | MeBigFatGuy | Grumbler, i do recall that |
| 04:01.46 | Grumbler | good, just wanted to make sure |
| 04:01.54 | MeBigFatGuy | i'm thinking if you play early in a countdown period you get killed |
| 04:02.07 | MeBigFatGuy | but anywho, server would just have to send a MsgKilled |
| 04:02.14 | MeBigFatGuy | would be nothing..... for young trepan :) |
| 04:03.32 | brlcad | orange: like the god-mode in counterstrike? |
| 04:03.50 | brlcad | mmmm |
| 04:04.02 | orange | brlcad: well, I don't really play any other games... never played counterstrike at all |
| 04:04.06 | orange | but sure, sounds good :-) |
| 04:04.32 | brlcad | you could viruo-physically slap players around in the air |
| 04:04.43 | brlcad | er, virtuo |
| 04:05.06 | orange | I was just watching a player who refused to stop capturing even though teams were 12v6 |
| 04:05.09 | brlcad | the game would make these horrid slapping noises even |
| 04:05.11 | orange | I didn't want to kick him |
| 04:05.19 | orange | but I'd have loved to kill him |
| 04:05.20 | Grumbler | ...you could cut off all the data from the other tanks and have everyone disappear from the field, and then cut them off from communication |
| 04:05.28 | MeBigFatGuy | eh, just kick em in arse |
| 04:05.30 | orange | Grumbler: that's my admin pause idea! |
| 04:05.31 | orchid | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:05.41 | orange | Grumbler: it would rock |
| 04:05.46 | MeBigFatGuy | i like /chill better than /kill |
| 04:05.58 | orange | I just thought kill would be easier |
| 04:06.04 | MeBigFatGuy | that it would |
| 04:06.10 | MeBigFatGuy | but all things are trivial to trepan |
| 04:07.03 | brlcad | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:07.03 | orchid | and lavender air scents |
| 04:07.04 | MeBigFatGuy | heh |
| 04:07.04 | orchid | maybe cool mountain breeze even |
| 04:07.04 | MeBigFatGuy | that would be tougher |
| 04:07.10 | Grumbler | ok, its /chill....not /womanize |
| 04:07.20 | brlcad | heh |
| 04:07.36 | orchid | ~chill Grumbler |
| 04:07.39 | ibot | ACTION grabs Grumbler and rams a chillpill down Grumbler's throat with a toilet plunger |
| 04:07.43 | Aribeth | i like /your not getting away that fast |
| 04:08.03 | orange | so, about this /kill idea |
| 04:08.17 | brlcad | ~kill orange |
| 04:08.19 | ibot | ACTION shoots a ionized fluxneutron gun at orange |
| 04:08.31 | brlcad | hmm.. that's rather lackluster |
| 04:08.45 | brlcad | disappointing even |
| 04:08.51 | Jormungandr | heh |
| 04:08.52 | orange | I just cannot bring myself to make some kind of joke about spraying orange juice |
| 04:08.57 | orange | it always looks so *wrong* |
| 04:09.02 | orchid | heh |
| 04:10.07 | orange | Jormungandr: /ban |
| 04:10.21 | Jormungandr | orange, ahh true... |
| 04:10.25 | orange | just like nothing but /ban stops them from rejoining after /kick |
| 04:10.31 | orange | but I kinda see a hierarchy: |
| 04:10.37 | MeBigFatGuy | why not just kick them, again? |
| 04:10.41 | orange | warning, /kill, /chill, /kick, /ban |
| 04:10.48 | brlcad | ~squeeze orange |
| 04:10.52 | ibot | ACTION squeezes the juice out of orange until there just ain't nothin left |
| 04:10.57 | MeBigFatGuy | heh |
| 04:11.02 | orange | oy |
| 04:11.26 | orange | MeBigFatGuy: I don't like to kick people... sometimes they don't come back. I'd rather they learn. |
| 04:12.03 | Grumbler | is /kill and /chill necessary? |
| 04:12.09 | MeBigFatGuy | hmmm /warn, /tiggle, /swirlie, /kill, /chill, /kick, /ban |
| 04:12.14 | purple_cow | tiggle? |
| 04:12.18 | MeBigFatGuy | er tickle |
| 04:12.19 | MeBigFatGuy | sorry |
| 04:12.38 | Grumbler | yeah, remember this is a G rated channel....tiggle my word :) |
| 04:12.47 | orange | Grumbler: probably not necessary... or at least not worth the extra work for now |
| 04:12.53 | Jormungandr | Heh, You could have in big letters " You've been chilled, please cool down":-) |
| 04:13.26 | MeBigFatGuy | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:13.32 | purple_cow | heh |
| 04:13.52 | Grumbler | to the other players /chill could appear as a pause |
| 04:14.01 | uso | hi |
| 04:14.02 | brlcad | chill could simply pause the player |
| 04:14.12 | Grumbler | good idea brlcad |
| 04:14.19 | orange | yes, just like a pause... admin pause |
| 04:14.24 | uso | is there any key to break the focus lock if bzflag is running in a window? |
| 04:14.38 | brlcad | uso: it's on the input menu |
| 04:14.39 | orange | uso, options, input settings, capture mouse |
| 04:14.51 | Grumbler | f12 - but its a bit permanent |
| 04:14.56 | orange | confine mouse, whatever |
| 04:14.57 | brlcad | heh |
| 04:15.18 | orchid | isnt the confine mouse toggleableish? |
| 04:15.18 | orange | my original hope for admin pause would be that all messages the player sends while paused would be directed to the admin channel |
| 04:15.53 | uso | Grumbler: lol |
| 04:15.57 | Grumbler | sounds trivial.....wheres trepan........has someone let him out of the cave lately |
| 04:16.13 | uso | it's confine mouse |
| 04:16.42 | orange | but, I really think /kill could even be done without client mods, which means we could have it now instead of waiting for clients to upgrade |
| 04:17.19 | MeBigFatGuy | could be |
| 04:17.29 | uso | but does not exist on 1.10, or? |
| 04:17.36 | MeBigFatGuy | no |
| 04:17.45 | orange | uso, I think there's a config option in 1.10 |
| 04:17.55 | orange | but it's either on or off until you quit and change it |
| 04:18.07 | MeBigFatGuy | i'll put up the trean signal, and look for the trepan-phone |
| 04:18.13 | MeBigFatGuy | er, trepan signal |
| 04:19.40 | brlcad | yes, the server can kill players on a whim |
| 04:19.45 | brlcad | it does that on a capture |
| 04:19.51 | orange | oh yeah, sure enough :-) |
| 04:19.56 | MeBigFatGuy | just send MsgKilled |
| 04:20.13 | MeBigFatGuy | only bit of thinking would be whether it counted as a -1 against the player |
| 04:20.31 | brlcad | probably will expose some client-state bug if the map's not ctf, but that's just a guess ;) |
| 04:21.15 | orange | MeBigFatGuy: last time this came up: |
| 04:21.17 | orange | <MeBigFatGuy> no is probably the right answer |
| 04:21.24 | orange | (count as -1) |
| 04:21.25 | uso | orange: any hint how to find this setting? |
| 04:21.36 | orange | uso, hang on I'll look |
| 04:21.41 | MeBigFatGuy | wow, i have absolutely no recollection, not that i should be surprised |
| 04:21.48 | uso | orange: thx |
| 04:23.06 | brlcad | MeBigFatGuy: like 8 months ago or so it came up, iirc .. |
| 04:23.07 | orange | uso: "mousegrab 0" |
| 04:24.43 | uso | hmm, writing it with "p" doesn't work :) |
| 04:24.55 | orange | p? |
| 04:25.04 | uso | spelled correctly it works, nice, thanks orange |
| 04:25.10 | orange | oh, cool, welcome |
| 04:27.33 | uso | am i right assuming these hidden settings are only "documented" in the source? |
| 04:28.02 | MeBigFatGuy | where better? |
| 04:28.30 | brlcad | MeBigFatGuy: it's over there next to the gwbasic interpreter |
| 04:28.34 | uso | perhaps in a man page? ;) |
| 04:28.45 | brlcad | uso: feel free to make a man page for them |
| 04:28.48 | orange | uso: then they wouldn't be hidden |
| 04:28.56 | uso | *s* |
| 04:29.12 | brlcad | uso: you could even mail _me_ that one and avoid the whole sf.net registration thing |
| 04:29.34 | uso | lol |
| 04:30.18 | MeBigFatGuy | OH! there it is.., danka |
| 04:30.20 | brlcad | oh sorry, that was last weeks' dinner |
| 04:31.01 | MeBigFatGuy | so did sportchick ever get 'fixed'? |
| 04:31.37 | MeBigFatGuy | jitter, that is |
| 04:32.51 | brlcad | hehe |
| 04:37.16 | CIA-10 | BZFlag: 03timriker * 10bzflag/ (3 files in 2 dirs): interlaced view testing |
| 04:41.27 | CIA-10 | BZFlag: 03timriker * 10bzflag/src/common/URLManager.cxx: ws |
| 04:52.59 | jpa_ | ibot: GvzEvxre is TimRiker, don't let him fool us |
| 04:53.00 | ibot | jpa_: okay |
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| 04:57.49 | uso | oops, starting two bzflag windows is definitely not a good idea |
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| 05:07.35 | CIA-10 | BZFlag: 03dbrosius * 10bzflag/ (9 files in 5 dirs): orange made me add this, for the weanies who feel kick is too strong. Oooh the power is addictive. |
| 05:10.42 | orange | hehehe... is dbrosius = mebigfatguy? |
| 05:11.17 | GvzEvxre | ibot: GvzEvxre is also see rot13 |
| 05:11.18 | ibot | okay, GvzEvxre |
| 05:11.52 | GvzEvxre | cool. old cybermaxx stereo head mounted display works with -view interlaced |
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| 05:26.35 | SportChick | MeBigFatGuy: no |
| 05:36.21 | MeBigFatGuy | orange... not that i'm aware |
| 05:38.03 | MeBigFatGuy | ibot, dbrosius? |
| 05:38.04 | ibot | a faulty code-bot |
| 05:39.09 | brlcad | :) |
| 05:39.34 | brlcad | dbrosius is dabomb (not the player) ;) |
| 05:42.10 | orange | the sourceforge web-based cvs browser shows no recent changes in bzfs.. I'm guessing it lags just like anon cvs access? |
| 05:42.18 | MeBigFatGuy | yup |
| 05:42.49 | orange | which means no testing tonight for me... bedtime cometh soon |
| 05:44.20 | orange | regardless of who you are or are not, thanks :-) |
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| 06:33.27 | MeBigFatGuy | wow learner's been lurking all this time |
| 06:50.40 | SportChick | does harmless have a cheat? |
| 06:50.53 | SportChick | he's on louman's time trial and ever since he showed up weird things are happening |
| 06:54.31 | sgk284 | hey sporty |
| 06:54.38 | sgk284 | ya never know with harmless |
| 06:54.41 | MeBigFatGuy | could be |
| 06:54.45 | sgk284 | what kind of wierd things? |
| 06:55.08 | sgk284 | harmless is sometimes "too" good if ya know what i mean ;) |
| 06:55.32 | sgk284 | of course its all relative cause i'm relaly bad |
| 06:55.40 | sgk284 | cant even really spell either |
| 06:55.50 | sgk284 | heck might as well just stop using a keyboard |
| 06:56.53 | sgk284 | sporty, whats he doing to make you think that |
| 07:00.15 | sgk284 | in other news.. what would be a good commad line option for a perpetual wings feature... like jumping all you want but with wings? the guy who did the patch used -wings which doesnt fit in right |
| 07:00.18 | sgk284 | -pw? |
| 07:00.36 | MeBigFatGuy | pw looks like password |
| 07:00.42 | sgk284 | err yea |
| 07:00.45 | sgk284 | heh |
| 07:01.05 | sgk284 | what about just -w |
| 07:01.16 | sgk284 | its not used |
| 07:01.28 | MeBigFatGuy | i'd prefer a longer option |
| 07:01.36 | MeBigFatGuy | but don't care too much |
| 07:01.40 | sgk284 | :) |
| 07:02.13 | sgk284 | i prefer a longer option too, but just trying to be consistent |
| 07:02.22 | sgk284 | i think -perpetualWings is fine |
| 07:02.36 | MeBigFatGuy | -flyingTanks? |
| 07:02.41 | sgk284 | even better |
| 07:03.06 | MeBigFatGuy | so can you carry another flag also? |
| 07:04.12 | sgk284 | i haven't tested his patch yet, just read the description |
| 07:04.17 | sgk284 | i'm compiling right now |
| 07:04.30 | sgk284 | the guy who did it is a fellow admin on secretplace |
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| 07:14.06 | MeBigFatGuy | heh can order a pizza in everquest |
| 07:14.11 | MeBigFatGuy | nifty |
| 07:14.19 | sgk284 | heh |
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| 10:13.55 | Upsetter | Hi all, yesterday i registered for the official bzflag-forum, but i got no activation mail. Someones here who can tell what i can do now? |
| 10:24.16 | Upsetter | hmm, i checked the spelling of my email adress before i sent to register and it was right. so i dont know (and sit and wonder...) No one here who could help me? |
| 10:25.29 | ruskie | wait and see and stop whining ;) |
| 10:26.00 | Upsetter | nice idea ;) |
| 10:33.54 | Upsetter | so then.... i have to wait and see and stop whining, bye |
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| 11:05.02 | Pimpinella | what id the antikill perm? |
| 11:05.08 | Pimpinella | s/id/is |
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| 12:38.00 | jpa_ | Pimpinella: stops from getting kicked, like if you have antikick, i may not kick you even if i have kick perm |
| 12:54.08 | Pimpinella | jpa_: sure, but antikill? prevents me from getting killed? |
| 12:56.49 | jpa_ | oh |
| 12:56.53 | jpa_ | misread |
| 13:00.20 | jpa_ | ~weather EFTU |
| 13:00.20 | jpa_ | ibot: u suk |
| 13:00.27 | jpa_ | !weather EFTU |
| 13:00.27 | guu | jpa_: The current temperature in Turku, Finland is 30°F (2:50 PM EET on March 08, 2005). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 47%. Dew Point: 12°F. Pressure: 29.74 in (1007 hPa). Visibility: 7.0 miles (10.0 kilometers). UV: 2 out of 16 |
| 13:00.39 | jpa_ | guu: farenheits? u suk much more than ibot |
| 13:00.39 | guu | jpa_: NO this one goes here, THAT one goes there! |
| 13:09.14 | Thumper_ | jpa_: so how's it feel to be berated by a bot? |
| 13:09.15 | Thumper_ | :) |
| 13:09.53 | jpa_ | ~dict berated |
| 13:10.10 | jpa_ | i don't know, i don't understand your question :) |
| 13:10.14 | Thumper_ | hehe |
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| 13:48.28 | Grumbler | ok, i will take that 60F weather again.....so whoever changed it, change it back. |
| 13:59.03 | Grumbler | ~weather knak |
| 14:02.46 | Grumbler | ibot more |
| 14:02.47 | ibot | from memory, more is Displays the contents of the named files, one screenful at a time. Syntax: more (file1) (file2) ...(fileN). Where file1 through fileN are the files to display. Example: more papers/history-final displays the file papers/history-final. |
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| 14:22.05 | ruskie | gaaahhhhh |
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| 14:41.50 | Grumbler | !weather annapolis md |
| 14:41.52 | guu | Grumbler: The current temperature in Annapolis, Maryland is 41°F (9:01 AM EST on March 08, 2005). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: 32°F. Wind: NNW at 22 mph (35 km/h). Pressure: 29.14 in (987 hPa). Visibility: 3.0 miles (4.8 kilometers). UV: 1 out of 16 |
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| 14:43.25 | TheRedBaron | hmm rain.. |
| 14:43.40 | brlcad | yay, light rain |
| 14:44.21 | TheRedBaron | !weather tallahassee fl |
| 14:44.23 | guu | TheRedBaron: The current temperature in Tallahassee, Florida is 57°F (8:53 AM EST on March 08, 2005). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 59%. Dew Point: 43°F. Pressure: 29.80 in (1009 hPa). Visibility: 10.0 miles (16.1 kilometers). UV: 2 out of 16 |
| 14:44.54 | TheRedBaron | hmm no wind index |
| 14:48.45 | jpa_ | guu suks :P |
| 14:48.46 | guu | jpa_: what are you smoking, and did you bring enough for everyone? |
| 14:48.58 | RedBaron2 | lol |
| 14:49.21 | TheRedBaron | jpa_, tell that to JeffM :) |
| 14:49.44 | jpa_ | :) |
| 14:50.15 | Grumbler | actually tell it to #supybot |
| 14:51.44 | WolverineJrDUB | Did anyone see Zongo? |
| 14:51.58 | TheRedBaron | ~seeb |zongo| |
| 14:52.05 | TheRedBaron | ~seen|zongo| |
| 14:52.07 | Grumbler | purple, with a mohawk? |
| 14:52.15 | TheRedBaron | ~seen |zongo| |
| 14:52.21 | ibot | |zongo| <~zongo@lsn-boi-catv-c126-p001.vtx.ch> was last seen on IRC in channel #dub, 6d 3h 41m 12s ago, saying: 'bye all'. |
| 14:52.21 | RedBaron2 | lol bro |
| 14:52.28 | TheRedBaron | fear my mad typing skillz. |
| 14:52.51 | WolverineJrDUB | 6 days ago?! |
| 14:52.57 | WolverineJrDUB | Daaaaamn |
| 14:53.06 | TheRedBaron | yea thats what I"m wondering... he's usually more frequent then that. |
| 14:54.51 | TheRedBaron | is ibot case sensitive? |
| 14:54.58 | WolverineJrDUB | Yea |
| 14:55.47 | WolverineJrDUB | What was that command? |
| 14:56.22 | TheRedBaron | ~seen |Zongo| |
| 14:56.23 | ibot | |zongo| <~zongo@lsn-boi-catv-c126-p001.vtx.ch> was last seen on IRC in channel #dub, 6d 3h 45m 14s ago, saying: 'bye all'. |
| 14:56.44 | TheRedBaron | nope, not case sensitive. |
| 14:57.20 | WolverineJrDUB | I've got an italian keyboard, I can't type that symbol |
| 14:57.35 | Grumbler | maybe zongo knows that. |
| 14:57.43 | WolverineJrDUB | ~seen |zongo |
| 14:57.44 | ibot | i haven't seen '|zongo', WolverineJrDUB |
| 14:57.49 | WolverineJrDUB | Wow!!!! |
| 14:57.52 | WolverineJrDUB | ~seen |zongo| |
| 14:57.53 | ibot | |zongo| <~zongo@lsn-boi-catv-c126-p001.vtx.ch> was last seen on IRC in channel #dub, 6d 3h 46m 44s ago, saying: 'bye all'. |
| 14:58.06 | WolverineJrDUB | I found the symbol |
| 14:58.10 | orange | Pimpinella: antikill prevents you from getting admin killed as far as I can see |
| 14:58.15 | orange | like antikick |
| 14:58.20 | WolverineJrDUB | alt+ 0126 |
| 14:58.25 | orange | does not prevent you from being shot, etc. |
| 14:58.58 | jpa_ | ~seen ibot |
| 14:58.59 | ibot | ibot is currently on #zaurus (1d 9h 45m 12s) #tomcat (1d 9h 45m 12s) #opie (1d 9h 45m 12s) #opencombat (1d 9h 45m 12s) #familiar (1d 9h 45m 12s) #uclibc (1d 9h 45m 12s) #intimate (1d 9h 45m 12s) #gllug (1d 9h 45m 12s) #brlcad (1d 9h 45m 12s) #gpe (1d 9h 45m 12s) #oe (1d 9h 45m ... |
| 14:59.09 | WolverineJrDUB | Whoa... |
| 14:59.12 | RedBaron2 | orange: doesn't it prevent you from being banned too? |
| 14:59.27 | orange | there is also antiban |
| 14:59.30 | RedBaron2 | k |
| 14:59.38 | WolverineJrDUB | ~seen WolverineJrDUB |
| 14:59.39 | ibot | wolverinejrdub is currently on #dub (34m 19s) #bzflag (34m 19s). Has said a total of 14 messages. Is idling for 1s |
| 14:59.49 | orange | ~mebigfatguy++ |
| 14:59.57 | WolverineJrDUB | Wow, how many informations.. |
| 15:00.53 | WolverineJrDUB | Does anyone want a match more or less in 6 hours? |
| 15:01.05 | WolverineJrDUB | 6 hours later? |
| 15:01.11 | WolverineJrDUB | (than now...) |
| 15:02.42 | WolverineJrDUB | ~seen an idiot |
| 15:02.44 | ibot | WolverineJrDUB: i haven't seen 'an idiot' |
| 15:03.13 | WolverineJrDUB | He's clever... |
| 15:03.15 | *** part/#bzflag WolverineJrDUB (~Alex@host197-238.pool8290.interbusiness.it) |
| 15:04.11 | TheRedBaron | no, ibot is just tactful. |
| 15:04.31 | LePoulpe303 | i bet he has not seen a genius either |
| 15:05.00 | Grumbler | orange< you may want to look at the message mac put in during the commit |
| 15:05.28 | Grumbler | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:05.30 | orange | I saw it :-) |
| 15:05.55 | RedBaron2 | lol, i love kicking peeps :D |
| 15:06.09 | orange | that's OK, I don't mind being a weanie about this... sometimes kick is too strong |
| 15:06.36 | RedBaron2 | heheh |
| 15:06.40 | TheRedBaron | ~fish slaph orange for being a weanie |
| 15:06.42 | ibot | ACTION slaps slaph orange for being a weanie around with a large trout |
| 15:06.54 | orange | hmm, the effect is lost with the typo |
| 15:07.02 | TheRedBaron | ok, who stole my keyboard? |
| 15:07.18 | RedBaron2 | lol dmp.. |
| 15:07.29 | TheRedBaron | [dmp], only a little? |
| 15:07.49 | [dmp] | TheRedBaron: No. Enough :-) |
| 15:08.45 | RedBaron2 | eesh, he's such a jerk.. |
| 15:09.57 | Grumbler | orange< i think /chill may end up being more aggravating than /kick.....its like when you tell a kid to go stand in a corner.....i think it will be quite effective |
| 15:10.44 | *** join/#bzflag WolverineJrDUB (~Alex@host197-238.pool8290.interbusiness.it) |
| 15:10.48 | orange | Grumbler: I totally agree... it will rock |
| 15:10.50 | jpa_ | why not having a "I'm a loser I may not talk anymore"-text flashing over his tank, too? :) |
| 15:11.11 | orange | Grumbler: but we have to wait for next public release to get /chill, I think :-/ |
| 15:11.12 | RedBaron2 | orange: and how bout an anoying noise that gets their attention..just a thought |
| 15:11.29 | jpa_ | orange: why? |
| 15:11.31 | Grumbler | jpa_< they are working on a pointy hat for the tank |
| 15:11.35 | orange | RedBaron2: yeah, there will need to be a noise |
| 15:11.50 | orange | jpa_: I think the consensus (I'm no bzflag developer) was that it will require client mods as well as server |
| 15:12.01 | Grumbler | i believe they are working it to be a pause....or at least that is the simple suggestion |
| 15:12.23 | orange | yeah, but without the client's cooperation won't that get screwy? |
| 15:12.37 | Grumbler | oh yeah, it will require a client change |
| 15:12.41 | TheRedBaron | Grumbler: the force pause? |
| 15:12.55 | jpa_ | we need to have it so that client can not be closed and user can not reconnect anywhere else :) |
| 15:13.25 | jpa_ | and also that bzflag adds itself to bios so that one can't use the computer for anything else in the meantime :) |
| 15:13.26 | Grumbler | well, you can always quit the program, but that should be real aggravating |
| 15:13.33 | *** part/#bzflag LePoulpe303 (~LPOS@AMontpellier-251-1-34-75.w83-113.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 15:13.42 | Grumbler | jpa_ your evil is showing |
| 15:14.21 | ToughShooter | jpa_: A BIOS is not required for BZFlag to run... |
| 15:14.38 | jpa_ | ToughShooter: yes, but it is required for the computer to boot |
| 15:14.42 | Grumbler | ToughShooter< jpa_ was being sarcastic....ie, evil |
| 15:15.00 | jpa_ | no i was not :) |
| 15:15.06 | jpa_ | completely serious |
| 15:15.17 | Grumbler | where is sportchick when you need her |
| 15:15.22 | ToughShooter | jpa_: Well, my computer booted without one |
| 15:15.27 | TheRedBaron | 1 question, is the /chill the equivelent to a force pause? |
| 15:15.43 | orange | TheRedBaron: yes |
| 15:15.54 | Grumbler | its not yet determined, but that is the prevailing thought |
| 15:16.10 | TheRedBaron | ok, bear with me, I"m thinking in the limited range of ducati... |
| 15:16.28 | Grumbler | yes that is limited |
| 15:16.33 | TheRedBaron | if we /chill someone there, it ties up a spot... |
| 15:16.39 | orange | effects I'd like: player is paused (looks like pause to everyone else), everything the player sends as messages goes to admin channel only, only messages from admins will show up on players console |
| 15:16.39 | *** join/#bzflag SportChick (~SportChic@ca-redbch-cuda1-c5b-b-192.stmnca.adelphia.net) |
| 15:16.43 | jpa_ | hi sc |
| 15:16.59 | TheRedBaron | so yo effectively have 3-4 if all spots are maxed out. unless the /chill moves them to observer... |
| 15:17.02 | orange | TheRedBaron: imagine a newbie showing up, being very careless about tk |
| 15:17.03 | Grumbler | its meant as a way to control disgruntled players.....instead of a /kick/ban |
| 15:17.15 | orange | you want to teach him, but he's not reading his console |
| 15:17.25 | orange | /chill newbieplayer |
| 15:17.32 | orange | send him messages, he pretty much has to read them |
| 15:17.33 | Grumbler | its a step to /kick or /ban |
| 15:17.36 | orange | /thaw newbieplayer |
| 15:17.58 | ToughShooter | ~x en de thaw |
| 15:18.00 | TheRedBaron | ok, so we are talking about a /chill for like 2-3 minutes eh? |
| 15:18.10 | orange | TheRedBaron: less probably |
| 15:18.11 | Grumbler | because with /kick you, as an admin, dont have the opportunity to tell them what they did wrong |
| 15:18.35 | TheRedBaron | ok i understand... |
| 15:18.40 | ToughShooter | ~dict thaw |
| 15:19.01 | CIA-10 | BZFlag: 03jujibo * 10bzflag/src/ (bzflag/HUDRenderer.cxx bzfs/commands.cxx bzfs/bzfs.cxx): Admin gifts, now can use slots numbers in Kick and Ban, also can ban using callsign. Slot is rendered in client for admins. |
| 15:19.02 | TheRedBaron | grumbler was talking about metaphor and having them "sitting in the corner" i was thinking a /chill for like 10-15min. |
| 15:19.22 | TheRedBaron | in ducati, thats annoying when you have an "active" player paused for that long... |
| 15:19.24 | Grumbler | nah, nothing that long |
| 15:19.37 | ToughShooter | orange: What's this /thaw meant for? |
| 15:19.42 | TheRedBaron | ok thanks for the clarification. |
| 15:19.44 | Grumbler | just enough to get your point across and correct the behavior |
| 15:19.46 | orange | ToughShooter: end the chill |
| 15:19.53 | orange | whatever... it might be /unchill |
| 15:20.00 | ToughShooter | thanks |
| 15:20.04 | Grumbler | or /de-chill |
| 15:20.14 | TheRedBaron | we could go with the '70's style... |
| 15:20.16 | Grumbler | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:20.29 | TheRedBaron | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:20.51 | Grumbler | too much to type.... :) |
| 15:20.57 | TheRedBaron | and too lame. |
| 15:21.07 | orange | /pause and /unpause work for me ;-) |
| 15:21.18 | jpa_ | no, we do not need end-chill |
| 15:21.27 | jpa_ | there's plenty of players in the world :E |
| 15:21.46 | jpa_ | if someone does something wrong, why shall we not just get rid of him for ever? :) |
| 15:23.47 | TheRedBaron | ~whaleslap mercy into jpa_ |
| 15:23.49 | ibot | ACTION slaps mercy into jpa_ upside and over the head with one freakishly huge killer whale named hugh |
| 15:24.07 | RedBaron2 | lol, this is just what i need, another admin prive to get adicted too >:) |
| 15:24.47 | Grumbler | well, right now, the fix-patch is /kill, which kills the tank player |
| 15:24.58 | RedBaron2 | really? |
| 15:25.03 | RedBaron2 | now thats awesome |
| 15:25.15 | Grumbler | but bloody |
| 15:25.22 | RedBaron2 | lol |
| 15:25.27 | RedBaron2 | i'm a bad admin.. :p |
| 15:25.38 | TheRedBaron | can you send a message with /kill? |
| 15:25.39 | Grumbler | we are still working with the lawyers to see if the devs can be held accountable |
| 15:25.41 | ruskie | :)) |
| 15:25.53 | ruskie | Grumbler, for what??? |
| 15:25.59 | ruskie | making an addictive game? |
| 15:26.01 | Grumbler | MDK |
| 15:28.22 | RedBaron2 | so, the /kill command is gonna be taken out, and replaced with /pause? |
| 15:28.32 | orange | RedBaron2: no, nothing removed |
| 15:28.44 | orange | just another tool in the toolbox |
| 15:28.44 | RedBaron2 | ok |
| 15:28.50 | RedBaron2 | thats cool |
| 15:29.35 | RedBaron2 | neither of them have been implemented yet? comming in 2.X? |
| 15:30.30 | Grumbler | n /kill |
| 15:30.37 | Grumbler | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:30.46 | RedBaron2 | ok, i'll have to test it out |
| 15:30.47 | Grumbler | assuming the bzfs is running head |
| 15:31.48 | Grumbler | ....and remember to thank orange and mebigfatguy for the new toys |
| 15:32.23 | RedBaron2 | heheh |
| 15:32.33 | RedBaron2 | orange: thx, can't wait to test em >:) |
| 15:32.50 | orange | I didn't write it, just asked for it :-) |
| 15:34.41 | Grumbler | ...and used a large stick over mebigfatguy's head until he wrote it |
| 15:34.49 | RedBaron2 | lol |
| 15:35.02 | *** join/#bzflag crko (jan@cmb27-47.dial-up.arnes.si) |
| 15:35.05 | TheRedBaron | orange: taking lessons from the radar incident? ;) |
| 15:35.50 | RedBaron2 | haha.. |
| 15:37.55 | SportChick | can someone here (who knows how to config a server) respond to this thread please: http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?t=3047 |
| 15:42.50 | Nidhoggr | I'd respond but I don't use those options. |
| 15:43.24 | Grumbler | the last bit can be responded to ......he wants to know how to /set _<variable> from a conf file |
| 15:43.29 | orange | hey, I didn't use any big stick at all... I made a single respectful inquiry at least 3 months after my last one |
| 15:43.47 | orange | I just made sure the channel stayed on topic for awhile :-) |
| 15:44.08 | RedBaron2 | heheh |
| 15:44.15 | orange | and mebigfatguy was nice enough to go ahead and do it |
| 15:44.19 | orange | ~mebigfatguy++ |
| 15:45.22 | TheRedBaron | ~orange++ |
| 15:45.57 | TheRedBaron | anyone who can keep this channel on topic for a while deserves a reward. |
| 15:46.03 | orange | lol |
| 15:48.00 | Grumbler | ~weather knak |
| 15:48.26 | Grumbler | hmm, that would explain the snow |
| 15:48.40 | SportChick | !weather 90277 |
| 15:48.42 | guu | SportChick: The current temperature in Redondo Beach, California is 59°F (6:56 AM PST on March 08, 2005). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 55°F. Pressure: 30.17 in (1022 hPa). Visibility: 5.0 miles (8.0 kilometers). UV: 0 out of 16 |
| 15:48.49 | bryjen | hmm. should boolean values in BZDB be /set _foo [true|false] or are there some magic numbers? |
| 15:49.30 | ToughShooter | SportChick: Do you want to run a server? |
| 15:51.34 | Thumper_ | SportChick: I added a note on setting server vars at startup. |
| 15:52.45 | Thumper_ | bryjen: 1.0 and 0.0 ? |
| 15:53.27 | SportChick | ToughShooter: no, I don't |
| 15:53.43 | SportChick | but someone else was trying to figure some stuff out |
| 15:53.50 | SportChick | Thumper_: thanks |
| 15:54.22 | ToughShooter | Wow, I saw a major bug in drawing code when setting the server vars |
| 15:55.15 | *** join/#bzflag Poppi (~Alex@host197-238.pool8290.interbusiness.it) |
| 15:57.50 | ToughShooter | When using /set _syncTime false (server started with -synctime) drawing gets totally messed up |
| 15:57.51 | bryjen | from that post, he needed -1 for true |
| 16:02.25 | ToughShooter | http://resfork.sourceforge.net/temp/screenshots/screenshots/ |
| 16:03.14 | jpa_ | ToughShooter: oh, the sky just gets removed :) |
| 16:03.35 | TheRedBaron | very smooth map... how did you do it? ;) |
| 16:03.48 | ToughShooter | no, you really need to see it, the stuff moves around when not driving |
| 16:04.01 | jpa_ | :D |
| 16:04.04 | orange | hey, who made it so you can compile bzadmin without gl? |
| 16:04.24 | Grumbler | the new google maps are real nice |
| 16:04.39 | Grumbler | hmm, DTRemenak i think |
| 16:04.48 | orange | ~DTRemenak++ |
| 16:04.49 | orange | yay |
| 16:04.56 | orange | finally I can run bzadmin on my server :-) |
| 16:05.07 | Grumbler | it is sweet isnt |
| 16:05.10 | Grumbler | it |
| 16:05.17 | ToughShooter | It's my test server on 217.234.112.77:5154. Can anyone confirm this? |
| 16:05.32 | TheRedBaron | 2.0 or 1.10? |
| 16:05.36 | ToughShooter | 2.0 |
| 16:05.42 | Grumbler | ~bzfquery 217.234.112.77:5154 |
| 16:07.36 | ToughShooter | I use BZFlag client 2.0.1.20050304-DEVEL-darwin7.8.0-SDL (protocol 0026) |
| 16:07.37 | SportChick | weird - you get blurriness and shadows as you move |
| 16:07.59 | ToughShooter | I can provide conf file and detailed description |
| 16:08.00 | *** join/#bzflag WolverineJrDUB (~Alex@host197-238.pool8290.interbusiness.it) |
| 16:09.40 | WolverineJrDUB | I've got a problem: yesterday BZFlag worked good, but today a window said "unable to begin an OpenGL context or something like that. Can anyone help me? (My video card is Voodoo 3)... :P |
| 16:10.58 | WolverineJrDUB | exactly "Unable to initialize an OpenGL context" |
| 16:11.04 | Grumbler | WolverineJrDUB< try deleting your config file |
| 16:11.19 | WolverineJrDUB | uhmmm ok I'll try ty |
| 16:15.26 | jpa_ | hmm |
| 16:19.32 | ToughShooter | jpa_: Do you have screenshots? |
| 16:19.38 | jpa_ | nope |
| 16:20.20 | ToughShooter | ..but I hope you've seen it |
| 16:22.05 | jpa_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:22.12 | jpa_ | the skybox gets removed |
| 16:24.14 | WolverineJrDUB | Doesn't work |
| 16:25.26 | TheRedBaron | i reccommend updating the driver... |
| 16:26.27 | WolverineJrDUB | Uhmmm... maybe something doesn't work with my options in options menu of Windows... |
| 16:26.48 | ToughShooter | It is the latest driver I've got installed |
| 16:26.57 | TheRedBaron | that could be it too... |
| 16:27.17 | ToughShooter | It comes with OS, can't downgrade drivers |
| 16:27.29 | TheRedBaron | toughshooter: sorry, that was supposed to be directed to wolverine... |
| 16:27.47 | WolverineJrDUB | I try with 65k colours? |
| 16:27.51 | ToughShooter | TheRedBaron: np |
| 16:28.48 | WolverineJrDUB | K, I'll do it, but I'll have to restart my computer... |
| 16:29.00 | TheRedBaron | WolverineJrDUB: no that should'nt affect it |
| 16:29.07 | TheRedBaron | leave it at 16bit color. |
| 16:29.13 | WolverineJrDUB | k |
| 16:29.22 | WolverineJrDUB | hmmm... resolution? |
| 16:29.33 | WolverineJrDUB | I've got 1024x768 |
| 16:29.45 | TheRedBaron | thats ok too. |
| 16:30.50 | TheRedBaron | check your advanced options... |
| 16:31.01 | WolverineJrDUB | It's weird... yesterday I had to change res. and col. to make start a game and then it had a problem... |
| 16:31.38 | WolverineJrDUB | Do Ichange frequency? |
| 16:31.44 | WolverineJrDUB | now: 85 Mhz |
| 16:32.12 | TheRedBaron | no, those really shouldn't effect it. |
| 16:32.19 | TheRedBaron | *affect |
| 16:32.38 | WolverineJrDUB | Hmmm... I found something interesting... |
| 16:32.45 | TheRedBaron | then duplicate those settings you had yesterday, and see if it runs... |
| 16:33.08 | WolverineJrDUB | They're the same options of yesterday! |
| 16:33.30 | TheRedBaron | oh ok. |
| 16:34.09 | TheRedBaron | so whats the interesting thing you found? |
| 16:34.25 | WolverineJrDUB | oooohhhh... |
| 16:34.27 | WolverineJrDUB | nothing |
| 16:34.39 | WolverineJrDUB | I saw it doesn't affect BZ |
| 16:34.40 | TheRedBaron | ... |
| 16:35.31 | WolverineJrDUB | I've got a fantastic idea: I'll reinstall BZFlag 2.0.0! :P |
| 16:36.08 | WolverineJrDUB | :[ |
| 16:36.24 | WolverineJrDUB | I'll suicide... |
| 16:37.25 | TheRedBaron | bad idea... |
| 16:37.50 | Pimpinella | WolverineJrDUB: windows? |
| 16:37.55 | WolverineJrDUB | Yup |
| 16:38.00 | WolverineJrDUB | Windows 98 |
| 16:38.20 | Pimpinella | JeffM builds cvs snaps sometimes |
| 16:38.34 | Pimpinella | SportChick: ping |
| 16:38.49 | Pimpinella | wake up! |
| 16:39.15 | Pimpinella | WolverineJrDUB: SportChick should have something newer for you |
| 16:39.34 | WolverineJrDUB | What? |
| 16:40.06 | Pimpinella | a newer version |
| 16:40.16 | WolverineJrDUB | But... |
| 16:40.26 | WolverineJrDUB | There's only 2.0.0! |
| 16:40.27 | Pimpinella | Jeff or DTRemenak made one for her iirc |
| 16:40.33 | Pimpinella | ;) |
| 16:40.38 | Pimpinella | trust me... |
| 16:40.39 | WolverineJrDUB | ?! :P |
| 16:40.49 | TheRedBaron | Pimpinella: windows 98, voodoo 3 |
| 16:40.53 | Pimpinella | there's also 2.0.1 |
| 16:41.08 | WolverineJrDUB | 2.0.1? I didn't see it on BZ website... |
| 16:41.10 | Pimpinella | TheRedBaron: should work, no? |
| 16:41.22 | TheRedBaron | something in my memory keeps telling me i read somewhere that bzflag doesn't support the voodoo cards... but I can neither confirm or deny that. |
| 16:41.44 | WolverineJrDUB | It was working... |
| 16:41.54 | WolverineJrDUB | I mean yesterday... |
| 16:42.07 | Pimpinella | WolverineJrDUB: no, it's _not_ on bz webside, but believe me, if you ask SportChick she can provide you with newer stuff |
| 16:42.14 | Pimpinella | or JeffM |
| 16:42.22 | Pimpinella | i think |
| 16:42.29 | Pimpinella | well, gt run |
| 16:42.48 | TheRedBaron | exactly thats what is odd... |
| 16:42.50 | WolverineJrDUB | Beta version? |
| 16:43.11 | Pimpinella | developer version |
| 16:43.22 | Pimpinella | something like beta |
| 16:44.56 | WolverineJrDUB | What's the subject "Version numbering"? |
| 16:45.09 | WolverineJrDUB | oooh |
| 16:45.13 | WolverineJrDUB | Understood |
| 16:47.11 | WolverineJrDUB | I've got a cold... |
| 16:48.53 | orange | hmmm, I don't think he was here |
| 16:48.55 | orange | :-) |
| 16:49.00 | WolverineJrDUB | Hey, how to write those blue things? |
| 16:49.52 | [dmp] | write "/me got bzflag problems" |
| 16:50.00 | [dmp] | (try it) |
| 16:50.03 | WolverineJrDUB | rumph |
| 16:50.32 | [dmp] | without " and "got bzflag problems" can be anything you like |
| 16:50.58 | TheRedBaron | Noodle-sensei: oinkmoo? |
| 16:51.03 | WolverineJrDUB | rumph |
| 16:51.51 | WolverineJrDUB | like bzflag2.0.0... I missed it. |
| 16:51.54 | [dmp] | thats one sick animal :) |
| 16:52.07 | TheRedBaron | mad cow disease? |
| 16:52.15 | WolverineJrDUB | TRB: something like a pig-cow |
| 16:52.22 | TheRedBaron | or is it the new strain, mad pig disease? |
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| 16:52.37 | Noodle-sensei | they already have mad pig disease |
| 16:52.40 | WolverineJrDUB | Yepp, the second one |
| 16:52.44 | Noodle-sensei | any mammal can get it |
| 16:52.48 | SportChick | Pimpinella: pong |
| 16:52.57 | TheRedBaron | Noodle-sensei, don't quote me on this, but i believe they do have medication for it. :) |
| 16:53.06 | Noodle-sensei | even humans, but then they call it creutzfeld-jakob disease |
| 16:53.25 | RedBaron2 | yikes, sounds like a serious cough.. |
| 16:53.30 | RedBaron2 | :-p |
| 16:53.31 | Noodle-sensei | TheRedBaron: no, they just diagnose them with alzheimer's and send them off to the old folks home |
| 16:53.37 | WolverineJrDUB | I'm sick! |
| 16:53.48 | WolverineJrDUB | And I have to play basket!! |
| 16:54.45 | SportChick | WolverineJrDUB: the latest and greatest can be found here: http://my.bzflag.org/builds/2.0.x/ |
| 16:54.58 | TheRedBaron | Noodle-sensei: yup sounds serious... |
| 16:55.10 | WolverineJrDUB | at 19 o'clock (+1 hour UTC) I'll have to play basketball and I've got a cold!!!!! :( |
| 16:55.14 | WolverineJrDUB | :@ |
| 16:56.30 | WolverineJrDUB | SportChick: I saw it, now I'll download it |
| 16:57.00 | Pimpinella | ~Sportchick++ |
| 16:57.09 | brlcad | ~change 1300 can usd |
| 16:57.22 | SportChick | awww - thanks pimpi - but I didn't do anything |
| 16:57.39 | Pimpinella | provided my teamie with an url :) |
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| 16:57.51 | SportChick | hehe |
| 16:57.58 | SportChick | anyone could have done that, pimpi! :) |
| 16:58.46 | Pimpinella | SportChick: have you found a solution for your performance problems btw? |
| 16:58.57 | SportChick | Pimpinella: no |
| 16:59.02 | Pimpinella | :( |
| 16:59.09 | SportChick | I still can't play - everyone gets annoyedif I try |
| 16:59.57 | WolverineJrDUB | Me too I still can't play IF MY BZ DOESN'T WORK!!!!! :( |
| 17:00.51 | TheRedBaron | SportChick: what operating system? windows? |
| 17:01.04 | SportChick | xp |
| 17:01.15 | Pimpinella | will WolverineJrDUB get his new bzversion installed before he feels forced to hit his mind's delete key? |
| 17:01.18 | TheRedBaron | and video card? |
| 17:01.44 | Pimpinella | win98 && voodoo3 :( |
| 17:01.55 | TheRedBaron | wolverineJrDUB: run the bzflag then! |
| 17:01.56 | SportChick | nvidea geforce 5700 |
| 17:02.04 | WolverineJrDUB | IT'S AN OFFICE COMPUTER!!!! |
| 17:02.08 | TheRedBaron | sportchick: oh wow! |
| 17:02.09 | SportChick | 1 gig ram |
| 17:02.12 | Pimpinella | i thought _I_ was running old software |
| 17:02.23 | SportChick | TheRedBaron: o wow, what? |
| 17:02.25 | WolverineJrDUB | At home I've got a better computer!!! ;) |
| 17:02.37 | JeffM2501 | WolverineJrDUB, please stop the all caps and the !!! |
| 17:02.47 | SportChick | ~jeffm2501++ |
| 17:02.50 | Pimpinella | so you play BZ in office? i should call your boss.. |
| 17:02.51 | WolverineJrDUB | !!! |
| 17:02.51 | guu | WolverineJrDUB: are you 11? |
| 17:02.52 | WolverineJrDUB | !!! |
| 17:02.52 | WolverineJrDUB | 1!!! |
| 17:02.53 | guu | WolverineJrDUB: beats the heck outa me. |
| 17:02.53 | TheRedBaron | SportChick: nice video card... compared to mine, I'm looking to get a geforce 5700 |
| 17:02.53 | WolverineJrDUB | 1!! |
| 17:02.54 | WolverineJrDUB | 1!!! |
| 17:02.55 | WolverineJrDUB | 1!!!! |
| 17:02.56 | WolverineJrDUB | !! |
| 17:02.57 | guu | WolverineJrDUB: are you 11? |
| 17:02.57 | WolverineJrDUB | !!! |
| 17:02.58 | guu | WolverineJrDUB: Bombs are great! |
| 17:02.58 | *** kick/#bzflag [WolverineJrDUB!~JeffM@Patlabor221.active.supporter.pdpc] by JeffM2501 (JeffM2501) |
| 17:02.59 | guu | WolverineJrDUB: bafuuuuuu! |
| 17:03.00 | guu | WolverineJrDUB: Do I look like that kind of girl? |
| 17:03.01 | *** join/#bzflag WolverineJrDUB (~Alex@host197-238.pool8290.interbusiness.it) |
| 17:03.03 | WolverineJrDUB | !!! |
| 17:03.03 | guu | WolverineJrDUB: beats the heck outa me. |
| 17:03.07 | JeffM2501 | I will ban you |
| 17:03.08 | WolverineJrDUB | rumph |
| 17:03.17 | SportChick | TheRedBaron: my computer is less than 6 months old |
| 17:03.31 | JeffM2501 | you have a problem with BZ? if so dicussit it civil like |
| 17:03.46 | SportChick | TheRedBaron: I had narry a problem running 1.10.8, but suddenly with 2.0.0 - pow! jitter like mad |
| 17:04.00 | WolverineJrDUB | Bah |
| 17:04.03 | TheRedBaron | SportChick: I'm sure you've talked to numerous others who have way more knowledge with computer than I do.. but what exactly are your symptoms? |
| 17:04.13 | TheRedBaron | SportChick: ah i see. |
| 17:04.44 | WolverineJrDUB | I'll do it, but I dunnow if it will know. |
| 17:04.48 | SportChick | TheRedBaron: they've been trying almost since the release to identify and fix my problem. Essentially it is a high jitter stat. Sometimes I can't see the jitter, but it's completely apparent to others. Other times, I see it and they don't |
| 17:05.05 | WolverineJrDUB | Should I make start BZ 2.0.1b2? |
| 17:05.27 | JeffM2501 | what problem did you have? |
| 17:05.32 | SportChick | TheRedBaron: I'm currently running the latest and greatest thanks to jeffm2501, but I'm still have the problem. yesterday my jitter was 55ms |
| 17:05.42 | SportChick | JeffM2501: who are you talking to? |
| 17:05.43 | TheRedBaron | sportChick: by jitter are you going by the lagstat info? IE SC 100ms +-80ms |
| 17:05.43 | WolverineJrDUB | Doesn't work for my OpenGL |
| 17:05.53 | JeffM2501 | what openGL do you have WolverineJrDUB? |
| 17:05.55 | JeffM2501 | what card? |
| 17:05.58 | SportChick | TheRedBaron: yes, the +- number |
| 17:05.59 | WolverineJrDUB | old |
| 17:06.03 | JeffM2501 | what card? |
| 17:06.03 | WolverineJrDUB | voodoo3 |
| 17:06.11 | WolverineJrDUB | with 3dfx |
| 17:06.13 | JeffM2501 | I'm so very sorry |
| 17:06.19 | WolverineJrDUB | me too :) |
| 17:06.26 | JeffM2501 | well since the 3dfx company was the only one who made voodoo cards that makes sense |
| 17:06.40 | JeffM2501 | the voodoo drivers do not implement a full openGL API |
| 17:06.41 | WolverineJrDUB | Yep |
| 17:06.53 | TheRedBaron | SportChick: ok I may be wrong, but I thought that was related to your internect connection, not FPS |
| 17:07.20 | JeffM2501 | SportChick, them maybe it just is your net? it was better then changed to worse? |
| 17:07.35 | WolverineJrDUB | Yep, but yesterday BZ was working. |
| 17:07.44 | JeffM2501 | oh |
| 17:07.47 | JeffM2501 | then what did you change? |
| 17:07.51 | JeffM2501 | windows update or anything? |
| 17:08.05 | WolverineJrDUB | Aaaarrrgh |
| 17:08.09 | ToughShooter | SportChick: What lag (jitter) do you have when you connect to a 1.x server? |
| 17:08.30 | JeffM2501 | computers dont' change themeselves |
| 17:08.53 | WolverineJrDUB | I changed something, but not options are the same of yesterday |
| 17:08.55 | TheRedBaron | JeffM2501: except for intel 810 drivers :) |
| 17:08.57 | WolverineJrDUB | *now |
| 17:09.16 | JeffM2501 | you updated them? |
| 17:09.20 | WolverineJrDUB | no |
| 17:09.32 | WolverineJrDUB | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:09.41 | SportChick | ToughShooter: <5ms |
| 17:09.44 | JeffM2501 | well I'd redo your direct X and video drivers then |
| 17:09.48 | JeffM2501 | something you changed busted something |
| 17:09.55 | JeffM2501 | the voodoo drivers were very touchy |
| 17:09.58 | SportChick | JeffM2501: remember, we tried it in berkeley and same problem |
| 17:10.00 | WolverineJrDUB | I see... |
| 17:10.32 | ToughShooter | Hmm, so it's unlikly that it is your network |
| 17:10.32 | JeffM2501 | or just go spend 35$ and get a real card. |
| 17:10.32 | WolverineJrDUB | Yup |
| 17:10.32 | JeffM2501 | SportChick, have you tried on another computer on your same connection? |
| 17:10.32 | WolverineJrDUB | I got it when I was 8 years old :) |
| 17:10.32 | ToughShooter | s/unlinkly/unlikely |
| 17:10.44 | TheRedBaron | JeffM2501: concerning SportChick's problem, could it possibly be the new lagstats computation? |
| 17:10.56 | WolverineJrDUB | Now I have to go to my basketball lessons, bye all |
| 17:11.08 | JeffM2501 | TheRedBaron, that would not explain it working before with the new build then stoping |
| 17:11.16 | WolverineJrDUB | Maybe I'll reinstall BZ another time |
| 17:11.17 | SportChick | JeffM2501: the only other computer is hubby's and it is much slower. However, while he may have some jitter problems at times, they don't occur at the same time as mine |
| 17:11.24 | WolverineJrDUB | Bye Byeeeeee |
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| 17:11.28 | SportChick | and I don't believe they are ever as severe |
| 17:11.45 | JeffM2501 | hmm |
| 17:11.48 | JeffM2501 | very odd |
| 17:11.55 | TheRedBaron | JeffM2501: ok sorry, didn't know the history of the problem. |
| 17:12.08 | TheRedBaron | SportChick, like we have anything better to discuss? |
| 17:12.25 | JeffM2501 | well I could make another build, see if anyone has cleaned up any more stuff. |
| 17:12.35 | TheRedBaron | besides noodle-sensei's weird vocal capabilities, but nobody wants to talk about it. |
| 17:13.55 | CIA-10 | BZFlag: 03jujibo * 10bzflag/ChangeLog: Admin gifts, now can use slots numbers in Kick and Ban, also can ban using callsign. Updating changelog |
| 17:13.57 | SportChick | JeffM2501: I'll try anything |
| 17:14.06 | SportChick | JeffM2501: the one I'm running now is 2.0.1b3 |
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| 17:15.02 | WolverineJrDUB | I still have got 10 mins.. |
| 17:16.13 | TheRedBaron | well rufitos has OSX |
| 17:16.33 | WolverineJrDUB | I reinstall BZFlag |
| 17:16.40 | JeffM2501 | WolverineJrDUB, it's problay NOT bzflag |
| 17:16.46 | JeffM2501 | reinstalling it dosn't remove the config |
| 17:16.51 | JeffM2501 | that would better serve you |
| 17:16.56 | WolverineJrDUB | Ok |
| 17:17.19 | WolverineJrDUB | Should I put colors at 16bit? |
| 17:17.21 | TheRedBaron | JeffM2501, we already had him remove the config |
| 17:17.54 | WolverineJrDUB | Yep, but I surrender. |
| 17:17.59 | WolverineJrDUB | I uninstall |
| 17:18.09 | JeffM2501 | then thats NOT it |
| 17:18.14 | JeffM2501 | he's just wasting his time then |
| 17:18.31 | TheRedBaron | exactly |
| 17:18.35 | WolverineJrDUB | 16 bit? |
| 17:18.48 | JeffM2501 | huh? |
| 17:18.50 | TheRedBaron | I agree with you that its the driver... |
| 17:18.57 | JeffM2501 | what version of windows? |
| 17:19.11 | WolverineJrDUB | driver is the same one of yesterday, RB. |
| 17:19.12 | TheRedBaron | but 3dfx went out of business long time ago, where would you find a current "up-to-date" driver? |
| 17:19.17 | WolverineJrDUB | windows 98 |
| 17:19.20 | JeffM2501 | there are some around |
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| 17:19.22 | JeffM2501 | eww |
| 17:19.27 | JeffM2501 | dude why even bother |
| 17:19.27 | WolverineJrDUB | Zongo!!! |
| 17:19.36 | JeffM2501 | what version of directX? |
| 17:19.49 | WolverineJrDUB | i think 9.0 |
| 17:19.54 | JeffM2501 | you think? |
| 17:19.55 | JeffM2501 | or know? |
| 17:20.05 | |zongo| | hey! |
| 17:20.29 | bryjen | iirc, the voodoo I had only worked right with the DX7 that came with the card |
| 17:20.32 | WolverineJrDUB | Oh, no!!! |
| 17:20.34 | TheRedBaron | wolverineJrDUB: go to run, and type dxdiag |
| 17:20.46 | WolverineJrDUB | eh? |
| 17:20.48 | JeffM2501 | I've seen it work with 9 |
| 17:21.06 | WolverineJrDUB | It was working yesterday! |
| 17:21.09 | TheRedBaron | wolverineJrDUB: go to you start menu, select run, and type dxdiag and hit enter |
| 17:21.11 | JeffM2501 | then what did you change? |
| 17:21.40 | WolverineJrDUB | Bah, I have to go to my basket traning |
| 17:22.12 | JeffM2501 | youngins these days are so very confusing. |
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| 17:24.30 | SportChick | cya all later |
| 17:24.40 | |zongo| | cu |
| 17:24.56 | TheRedBaron | cya SportChick |
| 17:26.19 | RedBaron2 | later SC |
| 17:28.06 | jpa_ | bye SC |
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| 17:50.42 | ToughShooter | JeffM2501: I found a rendering bug. Now I don't know what informations I should provide in bug report. Should I first look whether the bug is map-related etc. or should I just report it as far as I know it now? |
| 17:52.13 | CIA-10 | BZFlag: 03jujibo * 10bzflag/man/bzfs.6s: Updated man page for new kick/ban options |
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| 17:55.35 | mbuf | how do i start bzflag-2.0.0.20050117 on GNU/Linux |
| 17:55.35 | cods | ToughShooter: what's the bug ? |
| 17:55.55 | mbuf | ./configure, make, make install - hasn't installed any bzflag |
| 17:56.09 | cods | are you sure bzflag was compiled ? |
| 17:56.15 | _Manu_ | after ./configure && make |
| 17:56.16 | cods | (not just 'bzfs', 'bzadmin',..) |
| 17:56.27 | _Manu_ | type: src/bzflag/bzflag |
| 17:56.45 | _Manu_ | if you want to install, as root: make install |
| 17:56.53 | mbuf | there is only src/bzflag/bzflag.cxx |
| 17:57.07 | _Manu_ | well.. do: ./configure |
| 17:57.12 | _Manu_ | then: make |
| 17:57.23 | _Manu_ | then.. can execute if no errors |
| 17:57.28 | cods | before make, look at configure output.. |
| 17:57.28 | Pimpinella | mbuf: try "/usr/local/bin/bzflag" |
| 17:57.35 | Pimpinella | no quotes |
| 17:57.39 | ToughShooter | cods: Wiered stuff...can't describe what exactly happens but at least the sky gets blurred. It has to do with synctime |
| 17:58.03 | cods | mbuf: look at configure output for the summary |
| 17:58.24 | cods | there is probably a problem with OpenGL stuff preventing bzflag to be compiled |
| 17:58.26 | Pimpinella | mbuf: sure it's not in /usr/local/bin/ ? |
| 17:58.39 | mbuf | Pimpinella, have done make clean |
| 17:58.42 | cods | Pimpinella: it's not in its src/bzflag/bzflag, so it was not compiled |
| 17:58.53 | Pimpinella | often /usr/local isnot in PATH |
| 17:58.57 | ToughShooter | My question is whether I should try to track the bug down or to report it as far as I know it now. |
| 17:58.59 | Pimpinella | cods: oh, ic |
| 17:59.01 | mbuf | i have this warning: "bzAdmin build has been requested, but GL is not fully available (missing gl.h) |
| 17:59.19 | Pimpinella | sp the client won't be build either |
| 17:59.32 | jpa_ | try locate gl.h |
| 17:59.50 | mbuf | finally, bzflag with the following: no curses! DSL libcurl enabled no bzadmin client binary!, no bzflag client binary! |
| 17:59.54 | Pimpinella | mbuf: you probably havn't installed the devel packages |
| 18:00.02 | jpa_ | or better, locate GL/gl.h |
| 18:00.15 | _Manu_ | ToughShooter, bugs: -> http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=3248&atid=103248 |
| 18:00.22 | mbuf | Pimpinella, actually, i didn't do a complete emerge update on my gentoo |
| 18:00.34 | mbuf | gl.h is in /usr/lib/opengl/xorg-x11/include/gl.h |
| 18:00.38 | Pimpinella | ah, gentoo... |
| 18:00.42 | cods | ToughShooter: you tried with recent CVS sources ? |
| 18:01.01 | mbuf | Pimpinella, so i have some old packages, some new packages |
| 18:01.03 | ToughShooter | cods: Yes |
| 18:01.08 | jpa_ | mbuf: if you do emerge --pretend bzflag, is it going to install any libraries? |
| 18:01.15 | cods | mbuf: bzflag 2 compile fine with gentoo |
| 18:01.17 | ToughShooter | It is in 2.0 STABLE, too |
| 18:01.44 | mbuf | actually, i am trying to compile by downloadnig the source, not through emerge :) |
| 18:01.48 | jpa_ | yes |
| 18:01.51 | mbuf | *downloading |
| 18:01.56 | ToughShooter | _Manu_: I already know where I should report bugs |
| 18:02.01 | jpa_ | but it would solve the required libraries |
| 18:02.19 | jpa_ | but why don't you just use emerge? |
| 18:02.47 | jpa_ | but it compiles fine from the sources |
| 18:02.52 | mbuf | jpa_, i have lot of updates that i need to install, and whatever i try to emerge, i get this cannot install all these options in your current system |
| 18:03.06 | mbuf | jpa_, ill try |
| 18:03.22 | jpa_ | and --pretend will show what libraries it needs.. |
| 18:03.24 | JeffM2501 | ToughShooter, if you can provide a method to dupicate it, that is all we realy need. |
| 18:03.30 | JeffM2501 | and the map is valid of course |
| 18:03.32 | mbuf | only 8 mb for bzflag |
| 18:04.49 | ToughShooter | JeffM2501: I can, just unsure on how many factors the bug depends. Should I try to minimize the factors first? Regarding the question to a valid map: I don't know how to verify if the map is valid |
| 18:05.09 | JeffM2501 | well the minimum duplicateable set is allways best |
| 18:05.17 | JeffM2501 | basicly the easyer and more focused the bug report is |
| 18:05.22 | JeffM2501 | the faster it will get fixed |
| 18:05.41 | JeffM2501 | so if you can whittle the map down to just the thing that causes the problem |
| 18:05.44 | JeffM2501 | then yeah that helps a lot |
| 18:07.41 | ToughShooter | JeffM2501: How to see whether a map is valid or not? Running bzfs with more "-d"s? |
| 18:08.18 | JeffM2501 | well no |
| 18:08.22 | JeffM2501 | just kinda the common sense stuff |
| 18:08.30 | JeffM2501 | are any of the scales for objects O or - |
| 18:08.33 | JeffM2501 | stuff like that |
| 18:08.43 | JeffM2501 | basicly "should they work" |
| 18:09.39 | ToughShooter | JeffM2501: Ha! I just found out it works with an empty map, too. :) |
| 18:09.55 | JeffM2501 | great |
| 18:10.12 | JeffM2501 | the minimum steps to duplication are allways best |
| 18:10.28 | ToughShooter | Can you look at it, too? 217.234.112.77:5154 |
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| 18:23.26 | ToughShooter | JeffM2501: Should I provide screenshots as well? |
| 18:24.58 | JeffM2501 | more info is allways better |
| 18:25.06 | JeffM2501 | you can realy never provide to much info |
| 18:25.09 | mbuf | should i start bzflag using bzfs ? |
| 18:25.18 | mbuf | there is no bzflag installed, after emerge bzflag |
| 18:29.14 | jpa_ | mbuf: umm |
| 18:29.21 | mbuf | jpa_, what do i do |
| 18:29.25 | jpa_ | mbuf: ls /usr/bin/bzflag |
| 18:29.32 | jpa_ | doesn't show anything? |
| 18:29.35 | mbuf | jpa_, nope |
| 18:29.41 | JeffM2501 | bzfs dosn't do anything with bzflag |
| 18:30.02 | jpa_ | try glxinfo | grep vendor |
| 18:30.16 | mbuf | jpa_, emerge -s says, bzflag installed 2.0.0.20050117 |
| 18:30.46 | mbuf | glxinfo | grep vendor, says Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0" |
| 18:31.11 | bryjen | that's no good |
| 18:31.20 | jpa_ | are you using xorg or xfree86? |
| 18:31.29 | mbuf | how can i tell ? |
| 18:31.37 | jpa_ | X --version |
| 18:31.43 | jpa_ | hmp |
| 18:32.14 | mbuf | xorg, X Window system version 6.8.0 |
| 18:32.23 | jpa_ | ok |
| 18:32.28 | jpa_ | is it through emerge? |
| 18:32.30 | mbuf | x protocol version 11, revision 0, release 6.8 |
| 18:32.33 | mbuf | yes |
| 18:32.58 | mbuf | but, i am using my earlier xfree86 /etc/X11/XF68Config file, i guess xorg is backward compatible with xfree86 |
| 18:33.00 | jpa_ | what kind of a gfx card do you have? |
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| 18:33.31 | mbuf | ati 7500 |
| 18:33.43 | jpa_ | have you emerged ati-drivers? |
| 18:33.45 | mbuf | let me check my /etc/X11/XF86Config |
| 18:33.56 | BearPerson | hmm. viper.pimpi seems to have the too-many-players bug again |
| 18:33.58 | JeffM2501 | you only get DRI with the 7500 |
| 18:33.59 | BearPerson | _Manu_? |
| 18:34.09 | JeffM2501 | ATI does not make drivers for the cards under the 8000 |
| 18:34.14 | jpa_ | oh |
| 18:34.20 | mbuf | ohh i see |
| 18:34.34 | BearPerson | http://my.bzflag.org/serverinfo.php?server=viper.pimpi.org%3A5158 |
| 18:34.36 | JeffM2501 | just make sure you have the current version of DRI |
| 18:34.41 | mbuf | so shall i remove the "Load glx" entry |
| 18:34.41 | JeffM2501 | and it's configured for a radeon |
| 18:34.46 | JeffM2501 | dono |
| 18:34.49 | JeffM2501 | never done a radeon |
| 18:34.57 | JeffM2501 | I personaly do not like ATI |
| 18:35.03 | JeffM2501 | allways have problems with them |
| 18:35.08 | mbuf | my card is detected, driver is "ati" |
| 18:35.14 | JeffM2501 | that's the generic |
| 18:35.14 | bryjen | no, you need load "glx" and load "dri" |
| 18:35.14 | jpa_ | ok |
| 18:35.18 | JeffM2501 | IIRC there is a RADEON mode |
| 18:35.25 | JeffM2501 | that will give it some accelleration |
| 18:35.29 | mbuf | JeffM2501, i see, which vendor graphics card do you recommend |
| 18:35.32 | JeffM2501 | it shoudl work OK |
| 18:35.33 | jpa_ | then you need load "glx" and load "dri" |
| 18:35.35 | mbuf | JeffM2501, yes i have both load glx and dri |
| 18:35.41 | jpa_ | in your XF86Config |
| 18:35.43 | JeffM2501 | there is only 1 other chipset MFG :) |
| 18:35.57 | JeffM2501 | and they make drivers for all there chips for linux |
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| 18:36.17 | mbuf | would you recommend that i unmerge xorg and get back to xfree86 ? |
| 18:36.22 | jpa_ | nope |
| 18:36.29 | jpa_ | xorg should work fine |
| 18:36.34 | mbuf | i see |
| 18:36.37 | JeffM2501 | I'm sure there are DRI versions that work fine with XORG |
| 18:36.47 | JeffM2501 | you probalby jsut need to get yourself configed right |
| 18:36.48 | Grumbler | is SportChick still having problems.... |
| 18:36.52 | JeffM2501 | I'm sure there is a readme somewhere |
| 18:37.11 | jpa_ | JeffM2501: but their drivers has funny bugs.. with TNT2, the newest ones just display a huge nvidia logo, nothing else :) |
| 18:37.20 | mbuf | JeffM2501, jpa_ thanks for your time |
| 18:37.30 | JeffM2501 | jpa_, that is also conifg |
| 18:37.32 | jpa_ | ~JeffM2501++ |
| 18:37.42 | JeffM2501 | on linux few things are are simple installs |
| 18:37.50 | JeffM2501 | the TNT is a very old chipset |
| 18:37.51 | mbuf | actually i have bzflag installed in my office red hat ws, so i guess i can play it there than at home :) |
| 18:38.09 | jpa_ | JeffM2501: nope, it is a bug, if i disable splashscreen, they just give black screen. older drivers work fine, though |
| 18:38.21 | BearPerson | strange bug. I see 14/13 players, my.bzflag sees (now) 14/10, someone else sees 8/8 (players blue/red) |
| 18:38.38 | JeffM2501 | well then nothing is bug free |
| 18:38.42 | JeffM2501 | who wants to use a TNT |
| 18:38.54 | JeffM2501 | on the ATI side that's comparable to like a rage 128 |
| 18:39.00 | JeffM2501 | dosn't even have a GPU |
| 18:39.18 | jpa_ | soon you will say that blahblah card is oly $35 |
| 18:39.44 | JeffM2501 | :) |
| 18:39.52 | JeffM2501 | you get what you pay for :) |
| 18:40.01 | JeffM2501 | to there are cheap radeons too |
| 18:40.20 | jpa_ | and that i should eat less and i'd get money for blahblah in two weeks |
| 18:40.35 | JeffM2501 | I hear they pay well for blood :) |
| 18:40.45 | Grumbler | jpa_< you dont need to eat, you can live off the souls of the dead |
| 18:40.45 | JeffM2501 | how hardcore of a gamer are you? :) |
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| 18:40.58 | jpa_ | mbuf: no need to, they don't support 7500 (according to JeffM2501) |
| 18:41.21 | jpa_ | humm.. they do not pay for blood here in finland |
| 18:41.21 | mbuf | jpa_, so what do i do now ? |
| 18:41.34 | jpa_ | mbuf: be happy |
| 18:41.41 | mbuf | jpa_, :) |
| 18:41.57 | bryjen | you might try setting your driver to radeon instead of ati |
| 18:41.58 | Grumbler | jpa_ ...are you sure, usually $50-70 for a couple pints here. |
| 18:42.17 | jpa_ | mmh..not sure |
| 18:42.29 | Grumbler | google red cross finland |
| 18:42.50 | jpa_ | i know the direct url, i do not have to :) |
| 18:43.13 | ToughShooter | JeffM2501: Awww, uploading 4.5MB on my connection lasts sooo long :( |
| 18:43.14 | jpa_ | and yes, "donating blood is volunteer in finland and there is no reward paid for it" |
| 18:47.33 | Grumbler | bummer, ....maybe you should move so you could afford a new graphic card :) |
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| 18:50.08 | ToughShooter | Grumbler: What's with those who are playing with a laptop? |
| 18:50.44 | Grumbler | ToughShooter< ? ....you mean sportchick? |
| 18:50.57 | ToughShooter | no, me |
| 18:54.41 | ToughShooter | Why? |
| 18:58.41 | Grumbler | are you having problems, or are you responding to something I had said earlier? |
| 19:00.00 | ToughShooter | You said jpa_ should afford a new graphics card. I wanted to make devs aware that not all have replaceable graphics cards... |
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| 19:00.37 | Grumbler | ahh, now i understand...."What about those who are playing with a laptop" |
| 19:01.10 | Grumbler | i was joking with jpa at the time, not being serious |
| 19:06.22 | Grumbler | ToughShooter< fyi, i was on your map earlier....have you found the problem yet? |
| 19:06.44 | ToughShooter | http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1159274&group_id=3248&atid=103248 |
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| 19:12.01 | JeffM2501 | I'm sure somone will fix it before the eventual heat death of the universe |
| 19:12.19 | Engelchen | rather how i feel about the Mac port... |
| 19:12.47 | ToughShooter | Sourceforge doesn't allow my screenies to be uploaded, even one of them is too big |
| 19:13.33 | Grumbler | hmm, are "true" and "false" in the client i/f intrepeted as 0, -1........ |
| 19:13.57 | JeffM2501 | true is any non zero |
| 19:14.42 | JeffM2501 | SportChick, I forgot I don't have the right libCURL here, I can't make you a version till I get home :( |
| 19:14.50 | JeffM2501 | but I'll do it right when I get home |
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| 19:17.11 | Grumbler | hmm, it doesnt seem defined that way |
| 19:17.40 | Grumbler | if (syncTime < 0.0f) { |
| 19:18.45 | Grumbler | epochOffset = (double)syncTime; |
| 19:20.21 | Grumbler | ToughShooter< have you tried using 0 and -1.0 instead of true and false? |
| 19:20.35 | ToughShooter | No, I hadn't |
| 19:25.54 | ToughShooter | It looks normal with any number |
| 19:26.45 | Grumbler | is normal good? |
| 19:26.55 | Grumbler | ...ie, the way you expect it to be |
| 19:27.04 | ToughShooter | yep |
| 19:27.19 | Grumbler | i dont think _syncTime is a boolean then |
| 19:27.43 | ToughShooter | Does that mean such stuff should happen then? |
| 19:28.43 | Grumbler | yeah, i think so.....i would wait till one of the devs confirms, but it looks like you were passing it strings, and as such, it was trying to use the ascii equivalent of those strings to set the epochOffset, whatever the hell that is. |
| 19:29.03 | Grumbler | its my guess |
| 19:29.38 | jpa_ | brrr |
| 19:29.53 | jpa_ | and trembling |
| 19:29.57 | jpa_ | and shittering |
| 19:30.06 | ToughShooter | -v |
| 19:31.38 | Grumbler | now if i look at the -help output, i would expect it to be a boolean..... |
| 19:31.58 | Grumbler | so that should probably be corrected. |
| 19:32.40 | ToughShooter | :) |
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| 19:34.08 | Grumbler | sry if i am just catching up to the discussion on the nature of the problem. |
| 19:34.47 | Grumbler | ToughShooter< can you update your bug list to indicate that numbers(0,-1) work as expected? |
| 19:36.34 | ToughShooter | done |
| 19:37.44 | ToughShooter | Hmm, I'm spamming myself with bug mail |
| 19:37.49 | Grumbler | heh |
| 19:39.07 | ToughShooter | Hi stevek |
| 19:40.21 | jpa_ | hi sgk284 |
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| 19:42.10 | jpa_ | blast007_school: you should be studying, not chatting |
| 19:42.15 | blast007_school | :) |
| 19:42.38 | jpa_ | hi SG |
| 19:43.13 | SportyGal | hiya jpa |
| 19:43.32 | Tupone | hi SportChick / SportyGal |
| 19:43.37 | SportyGal | hi Tupone |
| 19:43.44 | jpa_ | hmm.. world needs a difference-dictionary |
| 19:43.55 | jpa_ | so that i could do ~diff chick gal |
| 19:45.08 | SportyGal | ~dict chick |
| 19:45.11 | SportyGal | ~dict gal |
| 19:45.38 | jpa_ | ~dict gal |
| 19:45.56 | jpa_ | ok.. so there is some difference |
| 19:46.26 | jpa_ | one is a chicken, other one is the unit of gravitational acceleration |
| 19:46.43 | _Manu_ | Tupone, ciao! |
| 19:47.21 | jpa_ | ~dict alliterative |
| 19:47.37 | Tupone | _Manu_: ciao :) |
| 19:48.06 | _Manu_ | Tupone, slots implemented :) |
| 19:48.48 | Tupone | I saw the e-mail ;) |
| 19:49.04 | _Manu_ | now i'm looking for a bug in bzfs :( |
| 19:49.23 | _Manu_ | making the server not removing players |
| 19:49.38 | _Manu_ | because the rejoing time thing.. |
| 19:49.46 | _Manu_ | and causing messed up the teams counters |
| 19:49.49 | SportyGal | ~lart jpa for being a smart aleck |
| 19:50.09 | jpa_ | ~jpa-++ |
| 19:51.56 | jpa_ | SportyGal: will you still say "hi" to me, even though i was being a smart aleck |
| 19:52.27 | SportyGal | of course |
| 19:52.41 | jpa_ | ok :) |
| 19:52.47 | jpa_ | it is all that i care about |
| 19:52.50 | SportyGal | hehe |
| 19:52.52 | SportyGal | you're silly |
| 19:53.07 | stevek | hi toughshooter, jpa, and sporty |
| 19:53.46 | jpa_ | SportyGal: silliness is between the persons ears.. |
| 19:54.30 | Grumbler | ~jpa_ |
| 19:54.31 | ibot | methinks jpa_ is an evil master whose primary goal is to take a karma lead over SportChick or to get free jars of Nutella......only time will tell...huaaahhhha |
| 19:54.45 | jpa_ | except for you, you have only.. umm, nothing? |
| 19:55.20 | ToughShooter | ~SportChick |
| 19:55.22 | ibot | a fast-typing, mistake making, fun-loving, koolaid-drinking chick |
| 19:55.48 | ToughShooter | ~SportyGal |
| 19:56.42 | Grumbler | poor jpa_ |
| 19:56.52 | ToughShooter | Nice reply ibot 9.9 |
| 19:57.20 | jpa_ | ibot: SportyGal is a light version of SportChick, with reduced abilities and without multiprocessing |
| 19:57.21 | ibot | jpa_: okay |
| 19:57.33 | ToughShooter | lol |
| 19:59.57 | jpa_ | good night SportyGal <3 |
| 20:00.02 | jpa_ | good night stevek <3 |
| 20:00.09 | jpa_ | good night Grumbler <3 |
| 20:00.17 | jpa_ | good night ToughShooter |
| 20:00.20 | jpa_ | <3 |
| 20:00.21 | ToughShooter | night jpa_ |
| 20:00.33 | jpa_ | ~toughshooter++ |
| 20:00.35 | Grumbler | g-night jpa_ |
| 20:00.42 | jpa_ | ~grumbler++ |
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| 20:05.14 | stevek | heh g' night jpa_ <3 |
| 20:05.26 | jpa_ | ~stevek++ |
| 20:05.38 | jpa_ | ~stevek++ |
| 20:05.39 | SportyGal | gnight jpa |
| 20:05.45 | SportyGal | ~SportChick |
| 20:05.46 | ibot | a fast-typing, mistake making, fun-loving, koolaid-drinking chick |
| 20:05.46 | jpa_ | ~sportygal++ |
| 20:05.56 | jpa_ | ~sportchick++ |
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| 20:06.12 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o TimRiker] by ChanServ |
| 20:06.28 | jpa_ | ~timriker++ |
| 20:09.38 | Grumbler | orange< it wasnt DTR, it was tupone, i still owe him some beer for that as well. |
| 20:09.53 | Tupone | :) |
| 20:12.41 | orange | ohhh... well, then |
| 20:12.45 | orange | ~tupone++ |
| 20:13.00 | orange | not a beer, but it's something :-) |
| 20:13.35 | Tupone | he offered for the work, so I booked :) |
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| 20:33.40 | WolverineJrDUB | Hi |
| 20:33.51 | WolverineJrDUB | I no more have got that problem |
| 20:33.59 | WolverineJrDUB | I've got another computer |
| 20:34.12 | WolverineJrDUB | (For who can hear me... |
| 20:35.32 | CIA-10 | BZFlag: 03jujibo * 10bzflag/man/ (bzadmin.6s bzflag.6s bzfs.6s bzw.5s): manpage style updates |
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| 20:37.41 | Tupone | Che problema avevi? |
| 20:38.18 | WolverineJrDUB | Chi sei? |
| 20:38.18 | Tupone | A bot |
| 20:38.18 | WolverineJrDUB | oh |
| 20:38.24 | WolverineJrDUB | Non mi partiva BZFlag |
| 20:38.26 | Tupone | :) not true |
| 20:38.31 | WolverineJrDUB | Devo andare a cenare |
| 20:38.34 | WolverineJrDUB | Bye |
| 20:38.35 | Tupone | ok |
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| 20:39.12 | *** part/#bzflag ToughShooter (~ts@pD9EA704D.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 20:40.17 | _Manu_ | cenare, no pagare, correre.... :) |
| 20:40.35 | Tupone | :) |
| 20:41.40 | brlcad | _Manu_: hehe |
| 20:42.24 | stevek | ping TimRiker |
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| 20:51.51 | Nidhoggr | hi stevek |
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| 21:02.13 | Sgeo | I think Colored Flag is supposed to be - |
| 21:07.34 | CIA-10 | BZFlag: 03timriker * 10bzflag/debian/copyright: LGPL 2.1 |
| 21:09.05 | TimRiker | stevek: pong |
| 21:11.28 | stevek | hey nid, hey tim |
| 21:11.33 | stevek | tim, quick question |
| 21:12.06 | stevek | whats your thoughts on perpetual wings, i.e. you can always fly and still grab flags and stuff, kind of like always being able to jump but with wings |
| 21:12.33 | stevek | i'm asking because an admin in secretplace is finishing up a patch to allow that |
| 21:12.39 | Engelchen | oh no |
| 21:12.40 | stevek | but i know you hate double flag stuff:) |
| 21:13.00 | stevek | i told him i'd ask you |
| 21:13.06 | Engelchen | wings are annoying enough.. that's all we need is someone with wings to go pickup a GM or something |
| 21:13.26 | stevek | Engelchen, just because you dont like it doesnt mean others wont:) |
| 21:13.42 | Engelchen | well, if you like being haunted by GM campers you can't kill, go for it |
| 21:14.37 | Pimpinella | wings is a pretty nice tol to get rid of gm campers, no? |
| 21:14.43 | Pimpinella | works fine for me |
| 21:14.54 | Pimpinella | *tool |
| 21:15.01 | Engelchen | sure, unless, as stevek was suggesting, the wings players will have the ability to also pickup a GM |
| 21:15.19 | Engelchen | lot of people don't |
| 21:15.35 | Pimpinella | i don't like gm |
| 21:15.48 | stevek | the more choices the merrier:) |
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| 21:16.04 | Engelchen | either way, i'm back to playing what's left of 1.10.8 because i'm tired of the 2.x versions locking down my machine at random with no hope in sight... |
| 21:16.10 | Grumbler | i like the idea of the flag, i have trouble with the way the defaults are implemented right now |
| 21:16.16 | Engelchen | so... guess i shouldn't complain about wings |
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| 21:18.43 | scanline | heh |
| 21:18.49 | scanline | can't really blame a game when your machine locks up |
| 21:18.53 | scanline | that's got to be an OS or hardware problem |
| 21:18.55 | ruskie | :)) |
| 21:18.59 | WolverineJrDUB | ~seen |zongo| |
| 21:19.01 | ibot | |zongo| <~zongo@lsn-boi-catv-c122-p082.vtx.ch> was last seen on IRC in channel #dub, 3h 45m 22s ago, saying: 'ehh'. |
| 21:19.24 | WolverineJrDUB | uh. |
| 21:19.37 | Birdie | he is watching soccer |
| 21:19.55 | Grumbler | lets go ajax |
| 21:20.11 | Birdie | ajax = netherlands..booooh:) |
| 21:20.12 | WolverineJrDUB | awwww |
| 21:20.28 | WolverineJrDUB | Hehe :) |
| 21:20.47 | Grumbler | Birdie< its hard getting beat all the time isnt it :) |
| 21:20.55 | Birdie | ssshhhh |
| 21:21.23 | Birdie | our team in the championsleague didnt had any point this year.. |
| 21:21.47 | Grumbler | too many parties in that country, keeps all the players out late. |
| 21:22.17 | WolverineJrDUB | I want to play a 1vs1. Who wants? |
| 21:22.36 | Grumbler | try the league channel there maybe someone there who wants to |
| 21:22.48 | WolverineJrDUB | What channel is it? |
| 21:23.00 | WolverineJrDUB | #bzleague? |
| 21:23.23 | WolverineJrDUB | I'll take it as a yes |
| 21:24.03 | JeffM2501 | try and see :) |
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| 21:48.45 | menotume | JeffM2501: thanks a lot :P |
| 21:49.01 | menotume | ooops, i mean Grumbler |
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| 21:50.14 | Grumbler | ? |
| 21:50.25 | menotume | sending Wovler to bzleague :) |
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| 21:50.52 | Grumbler | your welcome, anything i can do to help ;) |
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| 21:51.00 | menotume | j/k : we're there to take the load off of this channel |
| 21:51.17 | Grumbler | yah, its crazy here |
| 21:51.19 | orange | why not #bzplayers... more generic |
| 21:51.36 | menotume | hmmmm |
| 21:51.47 | Grumbler | or #bztanks |
| 21:51.50 | menotume | could be good for a different channel - general chit-chat |
| 21:52.12 | menotume | #bzleague is supposed to be about league (Ducati, GU, 1v1) |
| 21:52.19 | orange | although, non-league discussion isn't discouraged there |
| 21:52.23 | orange | (obviously :-) |
| 21:52.26 | ruskie | how about ##bzflag for the unofficial chatter :)) |
| 21:52.35 | menotume | true - only because it's usually dead without it :) |
| 21:52.36 | Grumbler | heh, good point |
| 21:52.58 | orange | I've been hoping for #bzweather myself :-) |
| 21:53.14 | Grumbler | !weather bzflag |
| 21:53.32 | Grumbler | ;) |
| 21:53.51 | orange | hmmm, no weather |
| 21:54.10 | orange | anybody else tested mbfg's /kill? |
| 21:54.16 | menotume | <ibot> Weather at bzflag is varied - depending on the server |
| 21:54.19 | orange | my limited test shows you cannot spawn after being /kill-ed |
| 21:55.14 | Grumbler | sounds like not all the variables are being set to "dead" |
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| 21:56.22 | Grumbler | someone needs to run it in a debugger |
| 21:56.31 | orange | oh, I can |
| 21:56.52 | Grumbler | client and server? |
| 21:57.04 | orange | could, yes |
| 21:57.13 | orange | I wouldn't have any clue what to look for though :-) |
| 21:57.16 | Grumbler | ....cause it could be on both sides i suppose |
| 21:57.30 | orange | I'll build a debug client first real quick |
| 21:57.50 | Grumbler | grep through and find the dead checks.....i did it once......it wasnt bad at the time... |
| 21:58.18 | Grumbler | and then grep for the spawn checks and then drink heavily |
| 21:58.33 | orange | hehe |
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| 22:07.41 | orange | Grumbler: how do you run it to get those? I tried running in gdb, and I tried -d -d -d -d |
| 22:07.46 | orange | neither showed me much useful |
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| 22:08.19 | WolverineJrDUB | Zongooo |
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| 22:10.01 | orange | ah well, I'll have to try again later, I'm gone for now |
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| 22:38.03 | Pimpinella | orange: what /kill are you talking about? |
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| 23:37.06 | JeffM2501 | aww timmy left |
| 23:37.53 | JeffM2501 | DTRemenak, ready for a 2.0x branch tag? |
| 23:38.32 | DTRemenak | JeffM2501: hmm? like 2.1? |
| 23:38.50 | DTRemenak | sounds good to me, but I think we should release 2.0.2 sometime too :) |
| 23:39.13 | JeffM2501 | the auto wings patch can't be applyed till proto is broked |
| 23:39.19 | JeffM2501 | and it sounds fun |
| 23:39.29 | DTRemenak | mm, yup. several other things that need breakage too |
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| 23:39.52 | DTRemenak | mesh fixes, flag-sending stuff |
| 23:40.04 | JeffM2501 | what is 2.0.2 waiting on? |
| 23:40.07 | DTRemenak | nothing |
| 23:40.18 | DTRemenak | Tim OK'ed it about four weeks ago |
| 23:40.23 | DTRemenak | just nobody's done anything about it |
| 23:40.36 | JeffM2501 | then tag :) |
| 23:40.48 | DTRemenak | heh |
| 23:40.51 | JeffM2501 | then if anyone makes any more changes, they have to do it in 2 places |
| 23:40.56 | JeffM2501 | and that'll prevent em from doing em |
| 23:42.39 | JeffM2501 | tho I'd still like to see flag effects be changed to atributes |
| 23:43.06 | JeffM2501 | the left turn cannon would be great :) |
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| 23:48.35 | Tupone | I'd not branch now |
| 23:52.37 | JeffM2501 | and so he speaks |
| 23:56.05 | brlcad | I'd suggest that when/if we do branch, that we do the same as the last time -- create a maintenance branch for 2.0 and let head continue |
| 23:56.17 | brlcad | not a big deal either way, though .. same effort |
| 23:57.24 | brlcad | agree with DTRemenak too that 2.0.2 should probably happen soon/first/asap .. |
| 23:58.00 | brlcad | did trep or anyone finish the bitmap renderer? |
| 23:58.14 | DTRemenak | brlcad: did it need finishing? |
| 23:58.26 | DTRemenak | afaik scaling was all that was missing from it |
| 23:58.28 | brlcad | i dunno -- that's kinda what I'm asking too :) |
| 23:58.53 | DTRemenak | and I think that was missing on purpose |
| 23:59.15 | brlcad | getting the framerates/performance back up would make a lot of folks happy |