| 00:00.10 | felix_mmbg | hm... |
| 00:00.27 | felix_mmbg | some1 knows how to put only 2 teams on a map |
| 00:00.55 | Chestal | use -mp to specify max team sizes |
| 00:02.26 | felix_mmbg | i tried |
| 00:02.36 | felix_mmbg | i missunderstand the describtion it seems |
| 00:03.33 | felix_mmbg | -mp 10,10,0,0,0 ? |
| 00:04.03 | blast007_away | should be 6 groups (you forget observers) |
| 00:04.22 | felix_mmbg | argl... |
| 00:04.58 | felix_mmbg | ah thx...now its running |
| 00:05.13 | blast007_away | :) |
| 00:05.52 | felix_mmbg | well i tell you soon i have finished a easy map |
| 00:05.53 | felix_mmbg | then i like to test the server how many players can be online without gettin lagged |
| 00:06.04 | felix_mmbg | ;) |
| 00:06.31 | blast007_away | hehe |
| 00:07.23 | uso | is 2.0 using less bandwidth then 1.10? |
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| 00:31.08 | Grumbler | uso< they are guessing it will, i have yet to see any numbers however |
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| 00:33.30 | felix_mmbg | +f {good|bad|teamflag-id}[{count}] |
| 00:33.34 | felix_mmbg | should be like |
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| 01:04.38 | uso | are there any numbers of bandwidth usage in general? |
| 01:06.42 | uso | anybody here knowing bzflag sources? would it be very hard to hack the BZFS0026 protocol into 1.10 client? |
| 01:07.31 | MeBigFatGuy | wouldn't be easy |
| 01:07.59 | DTRemenak | uso, you would end up with...the 2.0 client |
| 01:08.00 | uso | hm, so much changes? |
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| 01:08.45 | DTRemenak | almost all the significant changes were incompatible |
| 01:09.12 | uso | so bad separation of network communication and graphics engine?? |
| 01:09.27 | JeffM2501 | graphics what? |
| 01:09.35 | DTRemenak | as for network stats, see http://bzflag.bz/tmp/secretplace_usage.png |
| 01:10.45 | uso | 3D engine |
| 01:11.17 | JeffM2501 | 3d what? |
| 01:11.49 | uso | the code which makes the 3D rendering, user interaction, ... |
| 01:11.55 | DTRemenak | uso, what do you mean by "bad separation"? name one feature you could take out |
| 01:12.11 | JeffM2501 | yes I know what an engine is, bzflag dosn't have one |
| 01:12.18 | JeffM2501 | rendering is tied into the entire system |
| 01:12.20 | uso | oh :) |
| 01:12.38 | JeffM2501 | are you saying you want 2.0 with 1.10 proto? |
| 01:12.50 | DTRemenak | if you want to be network compatible you have to have all of the 0026 features implemented |
| 01:13.00 | DTRemenak | which means all of the new features too |
| 01:13.03 | uso | no, the opposite :) |
| 01:13.05 | JeffM2501 | eww |
| 01:13.07 | DTRemenak | meshes and so on |
| 01:13.09 | purple_cow | uso: but *why*??? |
| 01:13.14 | uso | i want a 1.10 client connect to 2.0 servers |
| 01:13.14 | JeffM2501 | you'd have to end up implemting the entire new world system |
| 01:13.18 | JeffM2501 | the "engine" didn't change |
| 01:13.25 | JeffM2501 | it's all those new features that were added |
| 01:13.41 | JeffM2501 | the base rendering code for BZ is still basicly the same |
| 01:13.46 | DTRemenak | all of the new flags break protocol. all of the new world features break protocol |
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| 01:14.14 | JeffM2501 | what part of the "new engine" do you not like? |
| 01:14.23 | JeffM2501 | that the "old" one gives you? |
| 01:14.45 | JeffM2501 | the only thing I'd revert is the font stuff, cus I think it's wacky |
| 01:14.49 | JeffM2501 | and causes slowdowns |
| 01:14.53 | uso | purple_cow: because my hardware seems to be too slow for 2.0, playability is much better with 1.10 |
| 01:14.54 | bobomonkey | help how come the command the line that i use which the bzfs doesnt work for me it always says it cant find the configuration file |
| 01:14.54 | JeffM2501 | but 2.0.1 may be better. |
| 01:15.10 | JeffM2501 | uso, that's the data your shoving thru it, not the system |
| 01:15.10 | uso | and 1.10 servers are going to die, too less players there |
| 01:15.18 | JeffM2501 | mehses are slower |
| 01:15.27 | JeffM2501 | the new materials are slower |
| 01:15.28 | uso | i have 2.0.1 |
| 01:15.45 | JeffM2501 | you'd have to implemnt those things in 1.10 to be compatable |
| 01:15.50 | JeffM2501 | and you'd get the same slowdowns |
| 01:15.56 | JeffM2501 | what bzflag needs is a REAL 3d engine |
| 01:16.02 | JeffM2501 | not it's old engine |
| 01:16.08 | JeffM2501 | the data set in 1.10 was just a lot simpler |
| 01:16.21 | purple_cow | the solution to that is to optimize the code & maps, not to make regressions |
| 01:16.27 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 01:16.33 | JeffM2501 | what video card do you have? |
| 01:16.37 | DTRemenak | uso, what hardware are you running? |
| 01:16.38 | uso | yes, but i can waive the new graphic features, i anyway like the more simple look |
| 01:16.45 | DTRemenak | uso, so turn them off |
| 01:16.49 | DTRemenak | everything is optional |
| 01:16.49 | JeffM2501 | then just don't play on maps with meshes |
| 01:16.53 | JeffM2501 | play on boxes |
| 01:16.54 | uso | P3 1GHy with Radeon 9200 |
| 01:16.55 | JeffM2501 | and pyrmaids |
| 01:17.02 | bobomonkey | any1 know how to get a server started on a mac? |
| 01:17.11 | JeffM2501 | bobomonkey, same way as you do on linux |
| 01:17.19 | bobomonkey | oo |
| 01:17.23 | JeffM2501 | read the starting a public server post on bzbb |
| 01:17.33 | DTRemenak | turn off weather, turn off tank effects, set it on high instead of experimental detail, use the old textures, and don't join servers with meshes |
| 01:17.41 | JeffM2501 | starting a server on OSX means using the terminal, it's not a point and click thing |
| 01:18.02 | uso | i have turned them off all, i'm playing around with this for days ... |
| 01:18.12 | bobomonkey | is there suppose to be a directory for the bzflag2.0.0 on a mac |
| 01:18.16 | trepan | also try: set useBitmapFontRenderer 1 (in your config) |
| 01:18.20 | DTRemenak | are you using SDL or not? |
| 01:18.22 | JeffM2501 | so what "grapical" things are you going to turn off in your 1.10 implementaion |
| 01:18.34 | uso | i get 160 fps now without console, if it's idling |
| 01:18.46 | DTRemenak | your eye can only see about 110 fps |
| 01:19.03 | JeffM2501 | your screen can only show 75 |
| 01:19.13 | uso | but switching on console drops it to about 90, in real game 30..40 fps are left |
| 01:19.22 | JeffM2501 | then your card sucks at fonts |
| 01:19.34 | DTRemenak | uso, what version are you using? |
| 01:19.35 | uso | then it's jerking and blurring while 1.10 still have a clear view |
| 01:19.37 | JeffM2501 | try the bitmap font thing trepan just said |
| 01:19.38 | DTRemenak | build date |
| 01:19.44 | uso | DTRemenak: last cvs version |
| 01:19.50 | JeffM2501 | uso, you have vsycn isues, fix them |
| 01:19.51 | uso | yesterday |
| 01:20.07 | SportChick | Aribeth_away: what is lagwarn on temple of ire? |
| 01:20.13 | uso | i know, but cannot find a solution for this |
| 01:20.16 | JeffM2501 | or let us know in 2 years when your magic version is done. |
| 01:20.21 | uso | and i do not have them with 1.10 |
| 01:20.27 | JeffM2501 | just because you can't find the solution, dosn't mean there isn't one. |
| 01:20.35 | JeffM2501 | install windows :) |
| 01:20.44 | uso | lol |
| 01:20.50 | JeffM2501 | generaly better drivers |
| 01:20.58 | JeffM2501 | and a nice vsync checkbox |
| 01:21.08 | JeffM2501 | you on DRI or the ones from ATI? |
| 01:21.14 | uso | yes i know this :) |
| 01:21.23 | JeffM2501 | so there is your solution |
| 01:21.52 | uso | but before fighting winXX i stop playing bzflag ;) |
| 01:22.30 | uso | was only a question to hack back the protocoll, kind of a last resort :) |
| 01:22.44 | JeffM2501 | it would be efectvly imposible |
| 01:22.51 | uso | as it's too much work i shurely will not do that |
| 01:22.53 | JeffM2501 | and you'd probalby not gain a single thing |
| 01:23.08 | JeffM2501 | since the graphic code is the same openGL stuff it used to be |
| 01:23.22 | uso | so my hope i to wait for 2.2 or so ... |
| 01:23.33 | uso | is |
| 01:23.42 | JeffM2501 | 2.2.0 will be a long ways away, and incompatable with 2.0.x |
| 01:24.28 | uso | thats not a problem because servers will change then too |
| 01:24.50 | JeffM2501 | noone even knows what's going to be in 2.2 |
| 01:25.09 | uso | maybe 2.0.2 does it :)) |
| 01:25.19 | JeffM2501 | your using 2.0.2 |
| 01:25.25 | JeffM2501 | or what will be it |
| 01:26.01 | JeffM2501 | have you tried the bitmap font thing |
| 01:26.11 | uso | bitmap font? |
| 01:26.13 | JeffM2501 | ATI drivers can have issues with font scaling |
| 01:26.25 | JeffM2501 | the set line trepan told you to try? |
| 01:26.30 | JeffM2501 | in your config |
| 01:27.01 | uso | could this be the reason for halving the frame rate if i switch on console? |
| 01:27.10 | JeffM2501 | well think about it |
| 01:27.18 | JeffM2501 | what does the console do mostly |
| 01:27.38 | uso | the ProFont setting? |
| 01:27.42 | JeffM2501 | no |
| 01:27.44 | JeffM2501 | READ |
| 01:28.37 | uso | oops, i've overseen this, sorry trepan for ignoring you |
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| 01:30.18 | uso | DTRemenak: have tried with and without SDL |
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| 01:32.11 | Aribeth_away | SportChick ping |
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| 01:32.31 | JeffM2501 | mac version runs just fine on a 9200 :) |
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| 01:38.43 | uso | trepan: it is slower, 110/50 fps (without/with console) for bitmap rendering compared to 160/80 fps without |
| 01:40.14 | uso | quake2 is running like a charm ;) |
| 01:40.20 | JeffM2501 | quake 2 is not bzflag |
| 01:40.38 | JeffM2501 | don't think it does scalings on it's texture fonts |
| 01:40.48 | JeffM2501 | actualy I think it does its' font's as geometry |
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| 01:41.01 | uso | i'm afraid it's not the graphics engine alone, it's the increased amount of data it has to stream with 2.0 |
| 01:41.21 | JeffM2501 | actualy your showing that it's the font rendering system |
| 01:41.27 | JeffM2501 | what data stream? |
| 01:41.42 | JeffM2501 | the update packets are like the same size ( if not smaller ) |
| 01:41.48 | uso | new coloring schemes, mesh |
| 01:41.53 | JeffM2501 | that happens once |
| 01:41.55 | JeffM2501 | at startup |
| 01:42.01 | JeffM2501 | then it's all stored client side |
| 01:42.13 | JeffM2501 | that would not affect frame rate |
| 01:42.20 | JeffM2501 | are you playing on high mesh count maps? |
| 01:42.23 | uso | hmm, then it's a mystery for me |
| 01:42.54 | JeffM2501 | no, it should not be a mystery, your showing it's faster when it's not drawing the console ( aka all the text ). |
| 01:43.14 | uso | are this the objects with flaring colors? |
| 01:43.23 | JeffM2501 | huh? |
| 01:43.40 | uso | thats clear, but in 1.10 the console is always on |
| 01:43.58 | JeffM2501 | and 2.0 changed the font rendering system |
| 01:44.24 | uso | ahh |
| 01:44.54 | JeffM2501 | some ATI cards seem to have problems with it |
| 01:44.56 | uso | why that? what's the advantage? |
| 01:45.10 | JeffM2501 | on many systems the new font system is faster |
| 01:45.11 | uso | the new fonts are all worse to read |
| 01:45.17 | JeffM2501 | and it allows more types of fonts/characters |
| 01:45.28 | uso | ah, it _should_ be faster |
| 01:45.30 | JeffM2501 | they actualy look better on other cards |
| 01:45.32 | JeffM2501 | no it IS |
| 01:45.51 | JeffM2501 | like I say, some cheap ATI cards don't like to properly scale textures |
| 01:45.52 | uso | ... for non-ATI :) |
| 01:45.57 | JeffM2501 | only some |
| 01:46.08 | JeffM2501 | we can't help it if not everyone has a compliant GL implementation |
| 01:46.17 | JeffM2501 | we can try to figure out what it is |
| 01:46.23 | JeffM2501 | but no devs have those cheap cards |
| 01:46.48 | uso | if i can help testing, say what to do |
| 01:46.55 | JeffM2501 | the eventual plan is to have bzflag support more then just the US character set |
| 01:47.05 | JeffM2501 | for that we need a more robust font system |
| 01:47.15 | JeffM2501 | can you code or debug? or know anyting about openGL? |
| 01:47.37 | JeffM2501 | what is your texture mode set to? |
| 01:47.59 | uso | coding and debug a bit, no knowledge of openGL |
| 01:48.18 | uso | linearmipmaplinear |
| 01:48.24 | JeffM2501 | have you tried others? |
| 01:48.27 | JeffM2501 | like nearest? |
| 01:48.35 | knapjack | sorry, warty, not hoary. Certain binaries aren't getting built by the 'make all' called by Debian's dpkg-buildpackage |
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| 01:48.56 | JeffM2501 | if your building from source, why not just use the source tarball? |
| 01:48.58 | uso | yes, but not with latest other settings |
| 01:49.38 | knapjack | JeffM2501: Because I wanted the .deb when I was done. |
| 01:49.47 | JeffM2501 | yeah.. and... |
| 01:49.52 | JeffM2501 | our sources can make a deb |
| 01:50.00 | JeffM2501 | what do you think makes the first deb :) |
| 01:50.03 | knapjack | JeffM2501: Ah, OK, then I'll just do that. |
| 01:50.07 | knapjack | JeffM2501: heheh |
| 01:51.37 | knapjack | JeffM2501: I just assumed the Debian folks took care of that. Nice to know it's done by the bzflag team. |
| 01:56.03 | uso | knapjack: Tim Riker _is_ the maintainer of the debian package |
| 01:56.17 | knapjack | sweet |
| 01:56.21 | knapjack | I should have looked. |
| 01:57.54 | uso | JeffM2501: no significant changes if i switch to nearest, but if i switch textures off and disable console the jerking is gone |
| 01:59.01 | uso | the console is definitly a big causer of the jerking |
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| 02:04.24 | Tegan | oops |
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| 02:23.45 | amathis | anyone around here a medical doctor? |
| 02:25.41 | Tegan | amathis, nobody in here but us tank drivers |
| 02:28.16 | Tegan | ~heal amathis |
| 02:28.18 | ibot | ACTION heals amathis with Super Cow Powers. |
| 02:30.14 | knapjack | Ah, what the hell. |
| 02:30.31 | knapjack | This build keeps claiming gl.h is missing, but I see it right there.... |
| 02:32.09 | Tegan | where... is your LD_INCLUDE_PATH set? |
| 02:34.01 | knapjack | Good question |
| 02:34.41 | Tegan | it was? |
| 02:34.56 | knapjack | It comes up empty. |
| 02:36.29 | brlcad | knapjack: the config.log will say why the gl.h test compile is failing |
| 02:37.25 | knapjack | configure:4404: c++ -o conftest -g -O2 -L/usr/X11R6/lib conftest.C -framework OpenGL -lXi -lXxf86vm -lXext -lSM -lICE -lX11 -ladns -lm 1>&5 |
| 02:37.27 | knapjack | c++: OpenGL: No such file or directory |
| 02:37.28 | knapjack | cc1plus: error: unrecognized option `-framework' |
| 02:37.30 | knapjack | configure: failed program was: |
| 02:37.31 | knapjack | #line 4397 "configure" |
| 02:37.33 | knapjack | #include "confdefs.h" |
| 02:37.34 | knapjack | #include <OpenGL/gl.h> |
| 02:37.36 | brlcad | that's not it |
| 02:37.55 | brlcad | that's the framework test, which only passes on OS X |
| 02:39.18 | knapjack | Aha |
| 02:39.20 | knapjack | configure:4422: c++ -o conftest -g -O2 -L/usr/X11R6/lib conftest.C -lopengl32 -lXi -lXxf86vm -lXext -lSM -lICE -lX11 -ladns -lm 1>&5 |
| 02:39.21 | knapjack | /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lopengl32 |
| 02:39.23 | knapjack | collect2: ld returned 1 exit status |
| 02:39.25 | knapjack | configure: failed program was: |
| 02:39.26 | knapjack | #line 4415 "configure" |
| 02:39.28 | knapjack | #include "confdefs.h" |
| 02:39.29 | knapjack | #include <GL/gl.h> |
| 02:39.30 | brlcad | that's not it |
| 02:39.34 | knapjack | hmm. |
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| 02:39.46 | brlcad | there will be lots of gl tests that will probably fail |
| 02:40.19 | brlcad | you're looking for one specifically that's just -lgl trying to compile GL/gl.h |
| 02:41.37 | knapjack | configure:4422: c++ -o conftest -g -O2 -L/usr/X11R6/lib conftest.C -lGL -lXi |
| 02:41.39 | knapjack | -lXxf86vm -lXext -lSM -lICE -lX11 -ladns -lm 1>&5 |
| 02:41.40 | knapjack | /usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.a(glthread.o)(.text+0x46): In function `_glthread_InitTSD':: undefined reference to `pthread_key_create' |
| 02:41.41 | knapjack | /usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.a(glthread.o)(.text+0xaa): In function `_glthread_GetTSD': |
| 02:41.43 | knapjack | : undefined reference to `pthread_getspecific' |
| 02:41.45 | knapjack | /usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.a(glthread.o)(.text+0xf0): In function `_glthread_SetTSD': |
| 02:41.46 | knapjack | : undefined reference to `pthread_setspecific' |
| 02:41.48 | knapjack | ? |
| 02:41.50 | brlcad | bingo |
| 02:41.52 | Pizbit | knapjack: www.pastebin.com :) |
| 02:42.15 | brlcad | your opengl library requires the pthread library |
| 02:42.35 | brlcad | knapjack: try ./configure LDFLAGS="-lpthread" |
| 02:43.00 | knapjack | Ah, cool. Let me try that. Thanks! |
| 02:45.18 | knapjack | checking host system type... Invalid configuration `LDFLAGS=-lpthread': machine `LDFLAGS=' not recognized |
| 02:46.47 | knapjack | './configure --enable-threads' doesn't work, either |
| 02:48.55 | Tegan | knapjack, do you have glibc-devel installed? |
| 02:49.48 | knapjack | I do. |
| 02:49.53 | knapjack | I double-checked anyway. |
| 02:49.59 | knapjack | Actually, libc6-dev |
| 02:50.08 | knapjack | (Ubuntu -- Debian-based) |
| 02:50.15 | Tegan | oh |
| 02:51.37 | brlcad | is that an nvidia libGL? |
| 02:52.07 | knapjack | Yep, probably. |
| 02:52.28 | Jormungandr | Anyone know where the fonts are located on win bzflag2.0.0 |
| 02:53.02 | brlcad | there in you data directory |
| 02:53.14 | Jormungandr | ok thanks! |
| 02:53.39 | knapjack | brlcad: That was it. Missing the nvidia-glx-dev |
| 02:53.49 | brlcad | ~seen orchid |
| 02:53.50 | ibot | orchid <orchid@orchid.user> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 2h 18m 30s ago, saying: 'bah'. |
| 02:54.41 | knapjack | Thank you so much |
| 02:54.46 | brlcad | np |
| 02:55.40 | Tegan | ~brlcad++ |
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| 03:49.44 | lasindi | Is anyone else here running Linux 2.6.11? |
| 03:49.46 | bz2486 | ~bzfquery lasertag.game-server.cc:5154 |
| 03:49.51 | bz2486 | nope |
| 03:51.42 | bz2486 | i need some help, so i got the command prompt to list all the stuff but then i get the warning: disabling speed checking due to physics drivers, warning :disabling height checking due to physics drivers, error: unable to start the server, perhaps one is already running, what does it mean? |
| 03:53.59 | bz2486 | any1? |
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| 03:55.43 | Pizbit | lasindi: Nah, nvidia drivers don't work with it |
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| 03:56.16 | bz2486 | i need some help, so i got the command prompt to list all the stuff but then i get the warning: disabling speed checking due to physics drivers, warning :disabling height checking due to physics drivers, error: unable to start the server, perhaps one is already running, what does it mean? |
| 03:56.54 | Pizbit | Read the last bit again? |
| 03:57.31 | bz2486 | me? |
| 03:57.46 | bz2486 | well i have a local going but i dont know how to shut it down |
| 03:58.01 | brlcad | bz2486: well is there a server already running? |
| 03:58.04 | brlcad | sounds like there is |
| 03:58.12 | bz2486 | i think there is |
| 03:58.18 | bz2486 | but how do i shut it down |
| 03:58.21 | brlcad | well you can't run two servers on the same port :) |
| 03:58.22 | bz2486 | i think its a local |
| 03:58.32 | bz2486 | so just change the port? |
| 03:58.45 | brlcad | well, you should shut down the other bzfs if you're not using it |
| 03:58.58 | bz2486 | im not but its a local and i dont know how |
| 03:58.58 | brlcad | an easy solution might be "killall -9 bzfs" |
| 03:59.08 | bz2486 | type that into the command line? |
| 03:59.14 | brlcad | yep |
| 03:59.47 | bz2486 | um with "C:\program files\bzflag2.0.0\ before it? |
| 03:59.57 | brlcad | eek |
| 04:00.03 | brlcad | heh, never mind |
| 04:00.09 | bz2486 | yea didnt work |
| 04:00.14 | brlcad | that's not a Windows command :P |
| 04:00.17 | MeBigFatGuy | start the task manager |
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| 04:00.32 | bz2486 | yea |
| 04:00.35 | MeBigFatGuy | right click in the program bar at the bottom |
| 04:00.45 | MeBigFatGuy | choose task manager |
| 04:00.49 | bz2486 | did that |
| 04:01.15 | MeBigFatGuy | click the processes tab, find bzfs.exe and end it |
| 04:01.20 | bz2486 | alright |
| 04:01.38 | MeBigFatGuy | brlcad, heh |
| 04:01.47 | bz2486 | haha yay |
| 04:01.51 | bz2486 | thanks |
| 04:02.02 | brlcad | oof! |
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| 04:02.19 | brlcad | brad2901: connection problems? |
| 04:02.32 | brlcad | oh, aol .. never mind |
| 04:02.34 | bz2486 | it works |
| 04:02.36 | DTRemenak | considering the service... |
| 04:02.36 | bz2486 | it lives |
| 04:03.10 | bz2486 | um can i close the command prompt box? |
| 04:03.14 | DTRemenak | all which lives must eventually die |
| 04:03.20 | MeBigFatGuy | yup |
| 04:03.28 | DTRemenak | unles bzfs is running in it... |
| 04:03.41 | MeBigFatGuy | if you see the prompt c: |
| 04:03.44 | MeBigFatGuy | then you can close it |
| 04:03.47 | bz2486 | its kinda a big map |
| 04:03.53 | MeBigFatGuy | or whatever your drive is |
| 04:03.56 | bz2486 | o nvm |
| 04:05.52 | bz2486 | how do i change it to have name instead of just an ip addrss? |
| 04:06.01 | blast007 | -publicaddr "your.hostname.org:5154" |
| 04:06.09 | bz2486 | with it in quotes? |
| 04:06.33 | blast007 | replaceing your.hostname.org with a hostname that points to your IP address |
| 04:06.35 | blast007 | yes |
| 04:07.13 | bz2486 | still only shows up as ip address |
| 04:07.58 | blast007 | what hostname are you using? |
| 04:08.04 | blast007 | I can see if I see it |
| 04:08.12 | bz2486 | its |
| 04:08.16 | blast007 | or is this just a local server? |
| 04:08.25 | bz2486 | its on another i think |
| 04:08.30 | bz2486 | like its public |
| 04:08.50 | bz2486 | ~bzgquery 192.168.1.100:5154 |
| 04:09.04 | blast007 | that's your local IP, not your internet IP |
| 04:09.10 | bz2486 | ah |
| 04:09.13 | bz2486 | .no wonder |
| 04:09.40 | bz2486 | i have my internet but wont um |
| 04:09.47 | bz2486 | i signed up dns |
| 04:09.49 | bz2486 | nplace |
| 04:10.00 | bz2486 | put that in but |
| 04:10.17 | uso | lasindi: anything not good with 2.6.11? |
| 04:10.44 | Pizbit | uso: Yeah, NVIDIA drivers are a no-go currently |
| 04:10.54 | bz2486 | but |
| 04:10.57 | Pizbit | Dunno what they were thinking of |
| 04:11.26 | Pizbit | bz2486: Your machine is behind a firewall/router in a lanright? |
| 04:11.32 | bz2486 | yea |
| 04:11.36 | bz2486 | ah |
| 04:11.37 | bz2486 | ok |
| 04:11.40 | bz2486 | i see thanks |
| 04:11.44 | bz2486 | open a port? |
| 04:11.47 | bz2486 | right |
| 04:11.49 | Pizbit | bz2486: Just forward the port in the firewall to your machine |
| 04:11.54 | blast007 | yup, the TCP and UDP port |
| 04:12.01 | bz2486 | both of them? |
| 04:12.06 | bz2486 | or just the udp? |
| 04:12.08 | MeBigFatGuy | yup |
| 04:12.09 | blast007 | both |
| 04:12.11 | Pizbit | Both |
| 04:12.11 | bz2486 | alright |
| 04:12.21 | bz2486 | very helpful thanks guys |
| 04:12.25 | blast007 | :) |
| 04:13.05 | Jormungandr | ~bzfquery jormungandr.homedns.org:9001 |
| 04:13.07 | bz2486 | hold up |
| 04:13.23 | bz2486 | when i open the firewall stuff it says tcp and udp |
| 04:13.35 | bz2486 | i click the bubble to fill in udp to and it deletes the one in tcp |
| 04:13.56 | DTRemenak | bz2486, you may have to create two separate rules, one for tcp and one for udp |
| 04:13.59 | uso | Pizbit: the usual thing :) |
| 04:14.16 | bz2486 | like in the config file? |
| 04:14.17 | uso | but 2.6 is experimental anyway ;) |
| 04:14.25 | DTRemenak | bz2486, in your firewall |
| 04:14.34 | bz2486 | ah |
| 04:16.43 | bz2486 | ~bzfquery 70.58.86.44 |
| 04:16.57 | bz2486 | oops |
| 04:17.18 | bz2486 | ~bzfquery 70.58.86.44:5154 |
| 04:17.41 | blast007 | do you have a router too? |
| 04:17.56 | bz2486 | dont know |
| 04:17.58 | bz2486 | not my comp |
| 04:18.05 | bz2486 | kinda pisses me off |
| 04:18.18 | MeBigFatGuy | your publishing a server on 'not your computer'? |
| 04:18.49 | brlcad | heh |
| 04:19.00 | brlcad | not the best of ideas generally speaking |
| 04:19.02 | bz2486 | well it is mine but not technically mine |
| 04:19.10 | bz2486 | like in the family |
| 04:19.11 | brlcad | it's daddy's |
| 04:19.17 | MeBigFatGuy | ah |
| 04:19.18 | blast007 | hmm, is your modem directly connected to the computer? or is there an extra box in between? |
| 04:19.24 | bz2486 | box |
| 04:19.29 | bz2486 | so guess its a router |
| 04:19.31 | bz2486 | o well |
| 04:19.44 | bz2486 | how do i shut it down |
| 04:19.52 | blast007 | that would need to route the traffic from port 5154 to your computer |
| 04:20.00 | brlcad | you should still be able to add the two rules if you can add one of them |
| 04:20.24 | brlcad | regardless of "whos it is" |
| 04:20.48 | bz2486 | by adding the two rules you mean adding udp 5154 and tcp 5154? |
| 04:20.50 | blast007 | brlcad: I don't think he was doing anything with the router, only on Windows Firewall |
| 04:21.00 | MeBigFatGuy | prolly |
| 04:21.00 | DTRemenak | I bet he has both a software firewall and a physical router |
| 04:21.04 | bz2486 | yea |
| 04:21.07 | bz2486 | i think i do |
| 04:21.09 | Jormungandr | bz2486, If there are multiple computers in your house, its a router, u need to forward port from your router to your local ip, which is 192.168.1.100, once u have this done we can go from there |
| 04:21.29 | DTRemenak | you need to set both of them up correctly...sounds like you have the firewall right, now you need a forwarding rule on the router |
| 04:21.40 | bz2486 | how do i set that up? |
| 04:21.52 | DTRemenak | read the router's manual. they're all different. |
| 04:22.00 | bz2486 | alright thanks guys |
| 04:22.04 | Jormungandr | 192.168.1.1, is your router ip, u will need th pass etc, |
| 04:22.07 | MeBigFatGuy | or you could open the remote desktop port, and we could get in :) |
| 04:22.08 | DTRemenak | if it's a common one, someone here may be able to help |
| 04:22.15 | bz2486 | mmmm no |
| 04:22.17 | Jormungandr | You dad will be able to help u with that |
| 04:22.26 | bz2486 | its actually my grandpas comp |
| 04:22.39 | MeBigFatGuy | lets here it for the old guys! |
| 04:22.41 | Pizbit | uso: 2.6 is niice:) |
| 04:22.42 | MeBigFatGuy | w00t! |
| 04:22.52 | bz2486 | hahaha |
| 04:22.55 | bz2486 | later |
| 04:23.02 | DTRemenak | c'ya. good luck |
| 04:24.10 | MeBigFatGuy | of course bz2486's grandpa might be like 50 |
| 04:24.25 | MeBigFatGuy | a youngin |
| 04:24.59 | uso | Pizbit: i know, running 2.6.10 here, but it also has nice bugs and usually a lot of changes from one minor to the next |
| 04:25.31 | uso | but they shouldn't have renamed it to 2.6 ;) |
| 04:25.36 | brlcad | heh |
| 04:25.50 | Jormungandr | Heh, I can run bzflag under wine, but not bzedit... the one thing i need.. |
| 04:26.09 | uso | lol |
| 04:26.12 | DTRemenak | Jormungandr, I think the wine folks broke it recently |
| 04:26.19 | DTRemenak | (again) |
| 04:26.25 | blast007 | heh, bzflag under wine? :) |
| 04:26.34 | Jormungandr | Did they? I had it running about a year ago, i thought it was a switch to debian |
| 04:26.41 | Jormungandr | yeah:) |
| 04:26.49 | Jormungandr | 2.0.1 is runnig under wine |
| 04:26.51 | DTRemenak | bzflag under wine is...pointless :) |
| 04:27.09 | Jormungandr | Well... No compiling from cvs..:) |
| 04:27.25 | DTRemenak | you can probably compile it with winegcc :) |
| 04:27.33 | DTRemenak | build bzflag as a winelib app :) |
| 04:27.37 | Jormungandr | heh |
| 04:27.46 | bryjen | point-ed, like a stick in the eye |
| 04:27.55 | DTRemenak | haha |
| 04:31.25 | Jormungandr | I wonder if they broke a few things, I had several thing running-(sorta), that no longer run, how about winex? Has anyone tried running bzedit under it? |
| 04:32.09 | amathis | cedega? |
| 04:34.42 | Jormungandr | amathis, yes cedega |
| 04:36.37 | DTRemenak | they're always breaking and fixing things |
| 04:40.14 | Jormungandr | ~bzfquery jormungandr.homedns.org:9001 |
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| 04:58.56 | MeBigFatGuy | hmm time to clean up my email --> > 5000 messages saved |
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| 05:09.03 | JBdiGriz | orange: ping |
| 05:37.51 | uso | rebooting 2.6.11 |
| 05:39.43 | SportChick | MeBigFatGuy: hehe |
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| 05:42.58 | DTRemenak | uso, I take it that your presence means it works? |
| 05:48.55 | uso | yepp |
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| 05:49.11 | bz5229 | anyone around? |
| 05:49.18 | blast007 | nope |
| 05:49.21 | bleh | oh |
| 05:49.23 | blast007 | no one is here |
| 05:49.25 | bleh | one quick question. |
| 05:49.29 | blast007 | ;) |
| 05:49.36 | bleh | is there a way to increase hitpoints? |
| 05:49.40 | bleh | instead of being one-shotted? |
| 05:49.47 | bleh | couldn't find anything on the main site. |
| 05:49.51 | blast007 | the shield flag :) |
| 05:49.54 | bleh | ah |
| 05:49.57 | bleh | hm |
| 05:50.02 | blast007 | gives you an extra hit |
| 05:50.06 | bleh | any other way without flags? |
| 05:50.08 | blast007 | but other than that, no |
| 05:50.12 | bleh | ugh |
| 05:50.31 | bleh | looks like a recompile is in order. |
| 05:50.31 | blast007 | bzflag is designed to be a fast paced game, thus the one-hit kills |
| 05:50.31 | bleh | :) |
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| 05:50.35 | bleh | thanks for the help |
| 05:50.39 | blast007 | :) |
| 05:51.24 | uso | DTRemenak: short fright because i had no sound, but was only the module which was not loaded :) |
| 05:51.30 | DTRemenak | heh :) |
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| 06:11.37 | wegstar | hey SilverFox... |
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| 06:26.09 | SilverFox | hey. |
| 06:26.26 | SilverFox | Do we know who makes "wordpress" ? |
| 06:28.15 | MeBigFatGuy | ryan boren, mostly |
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| 06:45.32 | wegstar | nite all |
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| 07:06.27 | uso | DTRemenak: was a bit too early, old PS/2 input problems of 2.6 are back, lost my keyboard :( |
| 07:07.43 | DTRemenak | uso, are you using a dell box? |
| 07:08.00 | uso | no, an old compaq |
| 07:08.08 | DTRemenak | 2.6.11.1 has a fix for keyboards on dell machines...wonder if it's the same |
| 07:08.19 | DTRemenak | see http://kerneltrap.org/node/4803 |
| 07:11.01 | uso | afaik this is an old known problem of 2.6, PS/2 keyboard stops working and mouse loses synchronzation |
| 07:11.33 | uso | had this with 2.6.8, .9 and now .11 |
| 07:11.39 | uso | with .10 it never occurs |
| 07:12.13 | uso | but nice, the 4th kernel number is back ... and they call it stable *sick* |
| 07:13.33 | DTRemenak | heh |
| 07:13.55 | uso | one of the saddest phases of kernel development since 0.99 ;) |
| 07:33.29 | Pimpinella | do it like me and keep good old 2.4 ;) |
| 07:34.32 | uso | this is the only box with 2.6, all others have 2.4, my firewall even 2.2 |
| 07:35.19 | Pimpinella | 2.2? netfilter is quite superior to ipchains.. |
| 07:36.02 | uso | but the sceduler and hardware support is a plus of 2.6, if they only would make it stable and go doing their games on a 2.7 tree |
| 07:36.16 | Pizbit | Games are fun :) |
| 07:36.49 | Pimpinella | it's the same game we played with early 2.4 kernels :( |
| 07:36.50 | uso | it has more options, but i havent trust 2.4 until 2.4.26 or do |
| 07:37.42 | uso | yes, but 2.5 started earlier imho |
| 07:38.33 | uso | Pizbit: for the players sure :) |
| 07:38.49 | Pizbit | Hehe |
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| 07:57.13 | jpa_ | argh |
| 07:57.19 | jpa_ | what is wrong with my server :/ |
| 07:57.24 | jpa_ | it reboots by itself |
| 07:57.33 | DTRemenak | power supply? |
| 07:57.34 | jpa_ | not a good behaviour for server |
| 07:58.00 | jpa_ | it did that 2 years ago.. i put him in a closet and been fine, doing that again |
| 07:58.14 | jpa_ | i somehow remember switching the powersupply back then |
| 07:58.30 | jpa_ | so probably mobo :( |
| 07:59.52 | DTRemenak | power supply can fail in 2 years. could be mobo, but power supply is my first suspicion. |
| 08:00.25 | DTRemenak | blow all the dust out and reseat the ram and cards if it's been 2 years since you've touched it :) |
| 08:01.05 | jpa_ | no, haven't been, about a half year before harddisk broke and dusted it then :) |
| 08:02.12 | jpa_ | it also seems to be somehow dependand of the temperature.. came winter, it started doing that, i reduced cooling of the closet, fixed for few weeks and now again :( |
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| 08:25.17 | Aribeth_away | jpa_ there could be a cracked trace on the motherboard if its temperature dependant |
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| 08:36.31 | jpa_ | Aribeth_away: hmm, true |
| 08:37.07 | jpa_ | Aribeth_away: but unfortunately, it would be hard to find, and i can't take it offline without a good reason :/ |
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| 08:37.35 | kei | FREE Hosting Reseller www.otomotivshow.com |
| 08:37.36 | Aribeth_away | true, cracked traces are near imposible to locate |
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| 08:38.06 | jpa_ | ~kei-- |
| 08:38.34 | Aribeth_away | ~kie-- |
| 08:38.36 | Pizbit | heh |
| 08:40.15 | Aribeth_away | spam spam spa psap spam and eggs |
| 08:41.13 | Aribeth_away | ~kei-- |
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| 09:21.09 | Pimpinella | uso 2.5 started around 2.4.10 iirc, but in 2.4.15 they changedfundamental things and needed some releases to get it stable again |
| 09:26.57 | _Manu_ | Pimpinella, hallo! |
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| 10:28.37 | uso | Pimpinella: i remember some releases before 2.4.19 were mostly unusable |
| 10:28.53 | uso | btw, i'm back on 2.6.10 ... |
| 10:29.40 | uso | on 2.6.11 i loose keyboard every time i switch my kvm-switch |
| 10:30.04 | uso | maybe i should try the keyboard patch ... tomorrow |
| 10:30.54 | Pimpinella | yeah, between 2.4.15 and .19 the kernel was broken after they changed central components within the so calles stable branch |
| 10:32.06 | uso | wasn't this an alpha release of the ide driver? |
| 10:32.07 | Pimpinella | linux kernel |
| 10:32.38 | Pimpinella | think it was the task sceduler or something |
| 10:32.41 | uso | in 2.6 they broke usb devices between 2.6.8 and .9 |
| 10:33.00 | uso | and now the keyboard :) |
| 10:37.25 | ruskie | anyone got 2.6.11 kernel working with an ide burner and being able to burn as non-root? |
| 10:37.41 | newbie_dont | ruskie: me |
| 10:37.43 | newbie_dont | was |
| 10:37.48 | newbie_dont | now i am back in 2.6.8 |
| 10:37.50 | ruskie | newbie_dont, was it working??? |
| 10:37.55 | ruskie | and why did you switch back |
| 10:38.09 | newbie_dont | yes it was working without anyp roblems |
| 10:38.17 | newbie_dont | just normal install of xcdroast |
| 10:38.26 | uso | newbie_dont: with ide devices or scsi emulation? |
| 10:38.42 | newbie_dont | without scsi emulation |
| 10:38.51 | ruskie | I'm on .10 and it's not so I'm looking for a good excuse to upgrade... |
| 10:39.05 | newbie_dont | kernel-doca says you dont need scsi emu in 2.6 series |
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| 10:39.43 | uso | i know, but i doesn't work for me including 2.6.10 |
| 10:39.50 | uso | it |
| 10:39.52 | newbie_dont | i am back to 2.6.8 because of other reasons -- my mobo is broken |
| 10:40.19 | ruskie | ahhh |
| 10:40.31 | ruskie | well last 2.6 that worked with ide iirc was 2.6.7 |
| 10:41.10 | newbie_dont | oh btw, is ducati 2.0 still down? |
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| 11:14.10 | Birdie | some one knows how to vieuw xchat logs? |
| 11:15.22 | _Manu_ | Birdie, look at ~/.xchat2 |
| 11:15.36 | Birdie | ~/.xchat2 |
| 11:15.42 | jpa_ | eww |
| 11:15.59 | jpa_ | eh, windows? |
| 11:16.03 | Birdie | yes:/ |
| 11:16.14 | _Manu_ | no.. |
| 11:17.26 | _Manu_ | well. can try file search: xchat.conf |
| 11:17.58 | _Manu_ | Birdie: is #bzflag relative? |
| 11:18.12 | Birdie | ehm what do you mean? |
| 11:18.28 | _Manu_ | if true: http://ibot.rikers.org/%23bzflag/ |
| 11:18.44 | _Manu_ | if want to read something about bzflag |
| 11:18.55 | _Manu_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:23.12 | Birdie | ~_Manu_++ |
| 11:23.33 | jpa_ | ~_manu++ |
| 11:23.40 | _Manu_ | =) |
| 11:24.14 | jpa_ | (making people happy is easy :) |
| 11:25.00 | Birdie | ~jpa_++ |
| 11:25.01 | Birdie | happy?:) |
| 11:25.28 | jpa_ | yes :) |
| 11:25.33 | jpa_ | ibot Birdie++ |
| 11:26.06 | Birdie | wee:) |
| 11:26.39 | jpa_ | unlike others, you get karma for being nice, not for being helpful :) |
| 11:27.36 | Birdie | hey i know several who get karma for being nice and not helpful:-) |
| 11:27.58 | jpa_ | :) |
| 11:27.58 | Birdie | i would be helpful, if i COULD help:- |
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| 11:36.00 | _Manu_ | ~karma |
| 11:36.00 | ibot | _manu_ has karma of 1 |
| 11:36.02 | [dmp] | wow.. calico :) |
| 11:36.12 | Birdie | calico! |
| 11:37.24 | calico | hi |
| 11:37.48 | calico | i figured i would check this place out, havent been here in awhile |
| 11:38.58 | [dmp] | Welcome :) |
| 11:39.13 | jpa_ | are you evil? |
| 11:39.25 | Birdie | ~karma calico |
| 11:39.25 | ibot | calico has neutral karma |
| 11:39.25 | [dmp] | Yes he is, he joined tlz |
| 11:39.54 | jpa_ | good :E |
| 11:41.03 | [dmp] | :) |
| 11:43.32 | calico | im bored |
| 11:46.53 | calico | i tried to play ducati a few times yesterday and every time nobody was there, is there a bz boycot :) |
| 11:48.03 | jpa_ | no.. i just let my little sister play bzflag, she became too good, made everyone else depressed and won't play alone |
| 11:48.37 | calico | lol |
| 11:48.40 | Birdie | she got those skills from you? |
| 11:49.01 | jpa_ | i'm not sure :/ |
| 11:49.13 | jpa_ | she might have stolen them, but i don't remember ever having them |
| 11:50.17 | calico | birdie, you still male right? :) |
| 11:50.24 | Birdie | lol!!! |
| 11:50.33 | Birdie | my guess is that you are 31:) |
| 11:52.41 | calico | not as much action playing texas hold'em as there is in bz |
| 11:53.37 | calico | atleast playing holdem im not falling out of my seat trying to dodge cards |
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| 11:55.09 | Seper | topic |
| 11:55.21 | jpa_ | topic |
| 11:55.30 | jpa_ | hmm, topic is not working |
| 11:55.40 | jpa_ | ibot topic |
| 11:55.54 | Seper | what |
| 11:56.02 | jpa_ | x) |
| 11:56.05 | calico | ~topic |
| 11:56.13 | jpa_ | confusing people is fun |
| 11:56.17 | calico | !topic |
| 11:56.18 | guu | calico: http://BZFlag.org/ || http://my.BZFlag.org/bb/ || http://my.BZFlag.org/ || http://cia.navi.cx/stats/project/BZFlag || Shellshock is revived http://shellshock.bzflag.bz || Simple Map Help - http://bzflag.org/wiki/MapMaking || BZFlag 2.0.0 is Released! - Go to http://sf.net/projects/bzflag http://bzflag.org/wiki/Download | |
| 11:56.30 | calico | w00t |
| 11:56.33 | Birdie | ibot is again slow |
| 11:58.15 | calico | alright, pocket jacks |
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| 12:10.14 | Pimpinella | hey calico, u here? |
| 12:10.19 | calico | yep |
| 12:10.50 | Pimpinella | Birdie: did you restart 1vs1 this morning? |
| 12:11.00 | Birdie | ehm no |
| 12:11.18 | Birdie | i think once yesterday |
| 12:11.26 | Pimpinella | must have been zongo then |
| 12:11.32 | Birdie | zongo is in england |
| 12:11.55 | Pimpinella | oh, i forgot, no internet in england ;) |
| 12:12.01 | Birdie | ;) poor him |
| 12:12.08 | Birdie | he will be nervous to play when he comes back |
| 12:14.47 | calico | man, i cant believe how inactive ducati is this weekend |
| 12:15.43 | Birdie | its a hard time for addicted calico |
| 12:16.36 | calico | tell me about it |
| 12:16.57 | Birdie | you need a second pc to play against ashilles |
| 12:18.39 | calico | yeah, maybe i should send him to work so he can play there :) |
| 12:18.57 | Pimpinella | does achilles live with u? |
| 12:19.09 | calico | yeah, he rents a room from me |
| 12:19.35 | Birdie | he became bz addicted thx to you;) |
| 12:19.53 | calico | now i came back and he cant play...haha |
| 12:19.54 | Pimpinella | so you passed the virus to him? |
| 12:21.06 | calico | no, im not taking the blame for that :) |
| 12:29.15 | calico | zzzzzzzzzzzzz |
| 12:29.26 | felix_mmbg | hi all |
| 12:29.32 | jpa_ | wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww |
| 12:29.52 | jpa_ | calico: can't you do anything more complicated than a 'z'? :) |
| 12:30.07 | calico | not really |
| 12:30.47 | jpa_ | lame :( |
| 12:31.15 | calico | calico420 wins 50497 play chips from the main pot with a straight, w00t |
| 12:31.49 | jpa_ | arf |
| 12:32.04 | jpa_ | better go sit alone in some server and wait for someone to join me :) |
| 12:32.20 | calico | i tired that already :) |
| 12:32.28 | felix_mmbg | hm... |
| 12:32.48 | felix_mmbg | anyone can help me testing a simple map |
| 12:33.12 | jpa_ | calico: so come and play with me :) |
| 12:33.26 | calico | where? |
| 12:33.33 | jpa_ | box.kapsi.fi:50141 |
| 12:33.52 | calico | cant, my comp only connects to ducati :) |
| 12:33.59 | jpa_ | why? :( |
| 12:34.04 | calico | lol, j/k |
| 12:34.12 | jpa_ | that is some lame computer! |
| 12:36.02 | felix_mmbg | some1 join mmbg.net server for 2-3 minutes? |
| 12:36.25 | felix_mmbg | oh no dont |
| 12:36.29 | felix_mmbg | gravitiy is to low |
| 12:36.36 | felix_mmbg | lol |
| 12:37.36 | felix_mmbg | uh..it has to be a - value ;) |
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| 12:40.24 | calico | hi tea |
| 12:41.00 | Pimpinella | felix_mmbg: -9.8 is default |
| 12:41.13 | Pimpinella | m/s^2 |
| 12:41.52 | felix_mmbg | i had no negative value ;) |
| 12:42.15 | Pimpinella | always nice ;) |
| 12:42.25 | Pimpinella | rocket gaming style |
| 12:43.58 | Pimpinella | felix_mmbg: gives me error connecting to server |
| 12:44.18 | Pimpinella | anyway, gt run |
| 12:44.20 | Pimpinella | later |
| 12:46.40 | felix_mmbg | hm... there was another player ;) |
| 12:47.04 | felix_mmbg | it was down for some seconds when i uploaded new map ;) |
| 12:47.58 | felix_mmbg | thx for testing...whoever it was ;) |
| 12:51.53 | tea|tree_ | hola |
| 12:52.18 | tea|tree_ | hey calico ;) |
| 12:53.23 | tea|tree_ | =) why that |
| 12:53.42 | Birdie | calico is bored and ducati empty |
| 12:53.43 | Birdie | :) |
| 12:54.47 | tea|tree_ | hehe |
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| 14:26.38 | Quol | wow - quit room today :) |
| 14:26.59 | Quol | err - quit, quiet :) |
| 14:28.08 | felix_mmbg | hi |
| 14:28.26 | Pizbit | Quol: Channel too:) |
| 14:29.34 | Quol | :) |
| 14:29.40 | Quol | felix_mmbg: hello |
| 14:29.51 | Pizbit | It's slow everywhere |
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| 14:30.21 | felix_mmbg | im testing automatic weapons...thats funny |
| 14:30.46 | eva-00 | hello |
| 14:31.15 | eva-00 | who speak french ?? |
| 14:31.28 | felix_mmbg | moi ;) |
| 14:31.32 | eva-00 | cool |
| 14:31.35 | eva-00 | tu peux m'aider ? |
| 14:31.37 | felix_mmbg | mais je comprend pas |
| 14:31.41 | felix_mmbg | hehe |
| 14:31.52 | eva-00 | je voudrais juste savoir comment on peut faire un serveur........ |
| 14:31.56 | eva-00 | tu ne comprend pas quoi ? |
| 14:32.06 | felix_mmbg | mais qui,, une server windows? |
| 14:32.24 | eva-00 | serveur bzf ! lol ! mais je suis sous linux |
| 14:32.45 | eva-00 | ^^ |
| 14:33.14 | felix_mmbg | c'est trop compliquee pour mois le peut expliquer en francais ;) |
| 14:33.23 | eva-00 | ok :) |
| 14:33.49 | Quol | hehe - I was thinking about answering in french aslo...but I haven't written french in about 12 years :) |
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| 14:34.07 | felix_mmbg | http://bzflag.org/wiki/CreatingAServer |
| 14:34.12 | *** join/#bzflag bz6933 (~507e2ce5@webchat.bzflag.bz) |
| 14:34.15 | Quol | alors mont francais n'est pas tres bon :) |
| 14:34.20 | eva-00 | mais alors dis moi (si tu le sais) si il faut être sur bzflag.org pour pouvoir le faire s'il te plait (et si tu le sais) |
| 14:34.26 | eva-00 | h |
| 14:34.29 | eva-00 | merci beaucoup |
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| 14:35.30 | eva-00 | allez j'y vais ! merci felix ! bye bye |
| 14:35.57 | felix_mmbg | macht mo doch gärn ;) |
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| 14:42.31 | felix_mmbg | how to delete windows? |
| 14:42.36 | Birdie | lol |
| 14:42.40 | Birdie | no:) |
| 14:42.42 | felix_mmbg | ;) |
| 14:43.14 | Pizbit | Birdie: I can... Delete the thing:) |
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| 14:47.01 | felix_mmbg | I have one more test with automatic weapon, really funny...it works ;)= |
| 14:55.46 | felix_mmbg | some1 join new server mmbg.net:5154 ? helping me testing the map a little? |
| 14:56.02 | felix_mmbg | pls pls pls |
| 14:56.05 | felix_mmbg | ;) |
| 14:58.59 | [dmp] | booring :) |
| 15:00.24 | felix_mmbg | no one there...i cant play and chat/work both |
| 15:02.58 | [dmp] | going there again |
| 15:07.32 | felix_mmbg | im writing into the forum ;) |
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| 15:08.48 | felix_mmbg | you already logged out again ;( |
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| 15:12.56 | lala_bzflag | n/join #nonprophets |
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| 15:26.45 | felix_mmbg | loooooool |
| 15:26.52 | felix_mmbg | its raining frogs... |
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| 15:44.14 | ToughShooter | Does someone know how to use diff on directories? |
| 15:45.58 | _Manu_ | have you tried: -r and:man diff ;-) |
| 15:47.05 | ToughShooter | Yes, but that gives no output :( |
| 15:47.46 | ToughShooter | I assume this means that there are no differences. Is this right? |
| 15:49.12 | _Manu_ | may be |
| 15:50.10 | ToughShooter | That would mean the Mac OS X client version would have serious problems... |
| 16:03.44 | _Manu_ | if you used: diff -r dir1 dir2 |
| 16:05.52 | orchid | hello Quol and [dmp] |
| 16:11.09 | [dmp] | hi orchid |
| 16:16.37 | Grumbler | morning all |
| 16:16.54 | orchid | morning |
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| 17:00.11 | tea|tree | hola |
| 17:04.11 | ruskie | lo |
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| 17:09.26 | gina | somebody resetted passwords for ducati?? |
| 17:10.55 | gina | right |
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| 17:33.15 | NetGhost | hi |
| 17:33.32 | jpa_ | hi |
| 17:34.35 | NetGhost | I have a question,... how to use the Phantom Zone Flag?? if i get it, nothing happens |
| 17:34.46 | jpa_ | go through a teleport |
| 17:35.23 | NetGhost | thanks :-) |
| 17:36.29 | tea|tree | :) |
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| 17:57.38 | menotume | Quol: Hi ! |
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| 17:59.13 | jpa_ | hi menotume |
| 17:59.34 | menotume | hi jpa (do I know you) :D |
| 17:59.47 | rabbit25 | hi people |
| 17:59.55 | jpa_ | (i'm not sure, but we can say hi anyway) |
| 18:01.09 | menotume | hehe |
| 18:03.19 | Birdie | ~menotume++ |
| 18:03.45 | jpa_ | ~birdie++ |
| 18:04.14 | Birdie | jpa is a cool guy:) |
| 18:05.45 | jpa_ | (i knew that already ,) |
| 18:06.00 | menotume | ~jpa++ |
| 18:06.05 | menotume | ~birdie++ |
| 18:06.08 | menotume | both cool |
| 18:06.35 | jpa_ | ~menotume++ |
| 18:06.39 | jpa_ | so hot ,) |
| 18:06.42 | Birdie | lol |
| 18:06.49 | Birdie | ~karma menotume |
| 18:06.49 | ibot | menotume has karma of 6 |
| 18:11.49 | Aribeth_away | morning |
| 18:12.11 | menotume | morning Aribeth |
| 18:12.24 | Birdie | good morning |
| 18:13.28 | jpa_ | morning ariwhomademedepressedbymakingitfairlyclearthatineedtogetnewmoboformyserverbeth |
| 18:16.10 | wegstar_eating | ? |
| 18:16.31 | jpa_ | confusing people is fun :) |
| 18:16.33 | sgk284 | jpa_ has some weird habits ;) |
| 18:16.58 | wegstar | n/nickserv IDENTIFY 8uitokw |
| 18:17.00 | wegstar | oh shhot |
| 18:17.03 | sgk284 | oops |
| 18:17.13 | sgk284 | ~n |
| 18:17.14 | ibot | well, n is the disease bzflag players get when they play too much |
| 18:17.35 | sgk284 | good to see people using secure passwords :) |
| 18:17.48 | wegstar | :) |
| 18:17.59 | jpa_ | :) |
| 18:18.44 | jpa_ | sgk284: my habits are fine, your definition of weird is wrong :) |
| 18:18.46 | menotume | ahhhh |
| 18:18.56 | DTRemenak | iirc, his last password was pretty good too. wegstar chooses nice secure passwords |
| 18:18.56 | menotume | wegstar: you know how to change it ? |
| 18:19.02 | DTRemenak | then tells them to the whole world :) |
| 18:19.03 | wegstar | too late menotume ;) |
| 18:19.05 | wegstar | err.. |
| 18:19.34 | wegstar | yep... |
| 18:19.48 | blast007 | heh |
| 18:20.05 | wegstar | '/nickserv set password <password>' |
| 18:20.28 | menotume | I forgot you are experienced with it |
| 18:20.42 | _Manu_ | wegstar, remember n key is only in bzflag game ;-P |
| 18:21.03 | menotume | nyes |
| 18:21.05 | menotume | nexactly |
| 18:21.10 | _Manu_ | nok |
| 18:21.27 | menotume | wegstar: what orc client are you using ? |
| 18:21.34 | DTRemenak | mmm, orcs |
| 18:21.35 | menotume | perhaps you can automate it |
| 18:21.41 | wegstar | ah |
| 18:21.51 | wegstar | orc? |
| 18:22.02 | _Manu_ | irc chat.. |
| 18:22.09 | DTRemenak | s/o/i/g |
| 18:22.18 | wegstar | yes I do but when I change my nick .. i.e. "wegstar_eating" and then go back... |
| 18:22.27 | menotume | ahh, yes |
| 18:22.43 | blast007 | You can register the other nick, and link it to your main nick |
| 18:22.51 | DTRemenak | wegstar, presumably it's open source...you could change it to automatically respond to Nickserv challenging you |
| 18:23.03 | menotume | hehe |
| 18:23.12 | wegstar | :) |
| 18:23.16 | DTRemenak | menotume, you laugh? |
| 18:23.28 | menotume | hard-code the password into the code ? |
| 18:23.29 | DTRemenak | that's part of the beauty of open source - freedom to make bad hacks |
| 18:23.58 | menotume | or, you can just define a 'macro' that may already exists |
| 18:24.01 | DTRemenak | not necessarily hardcode it in, just tell it to use automated response #1 |
| 18:24.11 | DTRemenak | then define the response in the "usual way" |
| 18:24.11 | wegstar | yep... |
| 18:24.50 | jpa_ | just alias /chnicknicelyandidentifyafterwise /nick something ; /msg nickserv identify something |
| 18:25.19 | DTRemenak | or you could do that |
| 18:25.38 | wegstar | yep i see.. |
| 18:25.38 | jpa_ | (except that would not be nice thing to write :( |
| 18:25.39 | DTRemenak | hacking your irc client sounds much more fun though |
| 18:25.45 | menotume | or ... always do '/query nickserv' first (if you're lazy like me) |
| 18:25.48 | DTRemenak | and automated :) |
| 18:25.49 | menotume | DTRemenak: true |
| 18:26.54 | jpa_ | or just remove the 'n' key |
| 18:27.04 | DTRemenak | then he couldn't chat in bzflag |
| 18:27.06 | menotume | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:27.10 | jpa_ | nit's userless anyway |
| 18:27.20 | DTRemenak | you could hack your irc client to remove any leading n's on messages you send |
| 18:27.32 | menotume | ahhhhhh - that's a good one |
| 18:27.34 | DTRemenak | nso you could type like this all you wanted |
| 18:27.35 | trepan | or change your chat key in bzflag to '/' |
| 18:27.45 | jpa_ | or maybe just change n/ to / |
| 18:27.49 | *** join/#bzflag JeffM2501 (~JeffM@Patlabor221.active.supporter.pdpc) |
| 18:27.49 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o JeffM2501] by ChanServ |
| 18:27.54 | wegstar | heh... that's sounds ok... |
| 18:28.00 | jpa_ | nin other messages, 'n' is not too bad |
| 18:28.02 | jpa_ | hi JeffM2501 |
| 18:28.19 | DTRemenak | nno, but it's still useless, and gets you mocked |
| 18:28.38 | menotume | no, ..... |
| 18:28.41 | menotume | becomes o .... |
| 18:28.52 | DTRemenak | menotume, but nno... becomes no... |
| 18:28.58 | menotume | nyes |
| 18:29.03 | DTRemenak | so you just have to remember to always use the n :) |
| 18:29.07 | JeffM2501 | hi |
| 18:29.09 | menotume | rofl |
| 18:29.12 | wegstar | :) |
| 18:29.13 | menotume | hi JeffM2501 |
| 18:29.26 | jpa_ | maybe make it run the first word through aspell if it begins with 'n' |
| 18:29.35 | DTRemenak | haha |
| 18:29.40 | jpa_ | if it does not recognize it, strip the n |
| 18:29.41 | JeffM2501 | or change your chat key to enter |
| 18:29.59 | Birdie | to F12 |
| 18:30.02 | jpa_ | JeffM2501: and have a new chat begin when you end previous one? :) |
| 18:30.16 | wegstar | nhehe |
| 18:30.17 | JeffM2501 | if a chat is active, and you hit enter, it sends |
| 18:30.22 | JeffM2501 | you hit enter again to start a new one |
| 18:30.27 | DTRemenak | jpa_, the first enter sends it, and is trapped there |
| 18:30.30 | menotume | and, enter first does nothing here |
| 18:30.38 | JeffM2501 | it's the common mode for most games |
| 18:31.12 | jpa_ | i still say that hacking irc client would be more fun :) |
| 18:31.35 | jpa_ | maybe we'll need a special ircd to filter all messages |
| 18:31.39 | menotume | until you upgrade next month, then hack again |
| 18:31.42 | JeffM2501 | well tell us next year wheny our done. |
| 18:31.49 | DTRemenak | menotume, that's what patches are for |
| 18:32.02 | menotume | unless you can get a 'bzflag n fix' into the main stream |
| 18:32.04 | DTRemenak | patch no_n.diff; ./configure; make; make install |
| 18:32.39 | jpa_ | DTRemenak: umm.. patch < no_n.diff |
| 18:32.50 | DTRemenak | jpa_, typo |
| 18:32.53 | DTRemenak | ;) |
| 18:32.59 | jpa_ | u suck :) |
| 18:33.03 | menotume | cool, I would assume that if the code is _significantly_ changed, that may not work |
| 18:33.05 | DTRemenak | so do u |
| 18:33.12 | jpa_ | i know |
| 18:33.43 | jpa_ | i can't even play bzflag anymore :/ |
| 18:33.54 | jpa_ | oh well, i never was good at it |
| 18:33.57 | DTRemenak | menotume, what irc client changes their code so much each version that a two or three line patch won't apply? |
| 18:33.59 | menotume | jpa_: why not ? |
| 18:34.18 | menotume | DTRemenak: right, probably not a problem |
| 18:34.32 | jpa_ | menotume: it feels bad when i'm in the bottom of the score list, while my sister would be in the top five :/ |
| 18:35.00 | menotume | hmmm, just beat her up for revenge |
| 18:35.07 | DTRemenak | jpa_, so why do you end up down there? just shoot other tanks more and don't let them shoot you as much! :) |
| 18:35.39 | jpa_ | DTRemenak: i know.. but bzflag has some bug and my points keep disappearing |
| 18:35.44 | wegstar | :) |
| 18:35.45 | DTRemenak | heh |
| 18:37.05 | Thumper_ | and stop chatting so much jpa... (forget the n issue and _play_! ) |
| 18:37.10 | *** join/#bzflag gina (~gigi@8-56.240.81.adsl.skynet.be) |
| 18:37.38 | Birdie | good evening gina |
| 18:37.40 | jpa_ | i found a fix thought.. haven't committed it yet, but it's mostly like in shotFired : if (callsign=="jpa") player->score->kills++; |
| 18:37.49 | jpa_ | hi gina |
| 18:37.58 | jpa_ | hi Thumper_ |
| 18:38.04 | Thumper_ | hi jpa_ |
| 18:38.15 | gina | hi jpa_ , Birdie |
| 18:38.53 | DTRemenak | jpa_, I tried applying that patch but it doesn't help my score any :( |
| 18:39.31 | jpa_ | DTRemenak: well, you are hopeless |
| 18:39.38 | DTRemenak | awww |
| 18:39.38 | gina | lol |
| 18:39.46 | jpa_ | it works only for people that suck because of a bzfs bug |
| 18:39.48 | gina | ~karma DTRemenak |
| 18:39.48 | ibot | dtremenak has karma of 82 |
| 18:39.55 | gina | ~DTRemenak++ |
| 18:40.04 | gina | ~karma DTRemenak |
| 18:40.04 | ibot | dtremenak has karma of 83 |
| 18:40.07 | jpa_ | ~dtremenak++ |
| 18:40.07 | sgk284 | ~DTRemenak++ |
| 18:40.08 | gina | huh! |
| 18:40.18 | DTRemenak | geez. what'd I do?! |
| 18:40.19 | gina | $something wrong |
| 18:40.22 | gina | ~karma DTRemenak |
| 18:40.22 | ibot | dtremenak has karma of 85 |
| 18:40.25 | gina | lol |
| 18:40.33 | gina | there is a queue on ibot |
| 18:40.33 | sgk284 | ibot yells if two people do it too close together |
| 18:40.39 | jpa_ | DTRemenak: you just look so cute and people feel bad for you |
| 18:40.49 | DTRemenak | heh |
| 18:40.49 | sgk284 | me an jpa did it so close together that ibot let both through :/ |
| 18:40.54 | sgk284 | ibot is wierd like that |
| 18:41.02 | gina | different threads for ~karma and ++ |
| 18:42.22 | gina | ~gina-- |
| 18:42.28 | jpa_ | ~gina++ |
| 18:42.30 | gina | lol ibot |
| 18:44.25 | gina | bbl |
| 18:45.03 | jpa_ | we should really get her a chain to connect her terminal with etc. |
| 18:45.09 | menotume | there goes the neighborhood |
| 18:45.18 | jpa_ | losing so many terminals must be expensive |
| 18:45.35 | rabbit25 | lol |
| 18:47.01 | jpa_ | eww |
| 18:47.06 | jpa_ | i want more time! |
| 18:47.16 | jpa_ | clock is going too fast :( |
| 18:53.52 | jpa_ | find / | grep bzflag | xargs rm -f |
| 18:54.01 | jpa_ | i feel the clock going slower already |
| 18:54.55 | wegstar | ... |
| 18:55.32 | felix_mmbg | hm...how can i limit the shots of a laser or SW? |
| 18:56.04 | jpa_ | laser shots is same as normal shots AFAIK |
| 18:56.20 | jpa_ | you can /set _laserReloadTime etc. |
| 18:57.02 | menotume | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:57.23 | felix_mmbg | sl id num |
| 18:57.23 | felix_mmbg | Restrict flag id to num shots. |
| 18:57.29 | felix_mmbg | ok thx...didnt saw it |
| 18:57.33 | menotume | :) |
| 18:57.44 | jpa_ | oh |
| 18:57.48 | jpa_ | like _that_ :D |
| 18:58.09 | jpa_ | ~menotume++ |
| 18:58.24 | menotume | heh - thx |
| 18:58.38 | menotume | too easy though |
| 18:59.07 | jpa_ | yes |
| 18:59.14 | jpa_ | but we can't expect much from you |
| 18:59.21 | menotume | lol - true |
| 19:00.00 | _Manu_ | find / | grep bzflag |
| 19:00.06 | _Manu_ | ops |
| 19:00.54 | jpa_ | just select a bit more and paste it to root console :) |
| 19:01.19 | _Manu_ | just happens because using too much consoles :-P |
| 19:05.45 | jpa_ | eww |
| 19:09.00 | jpa_ | happily there is a windows partition first :) |
| 19:09.06 | _Manu_ | heh |
| 19:09.13 | jpa_ | oops.. and some mbr and partition table :/ |
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| 19:58.09 | CIA-10 | BZFlag: 03trepan * 10bzflag/src/bzfs/ (WorldInfo.cxx bzfs.cxx): timing debug info |
| 20:02.59 | Birdie | some one speaks very good french? |
| 20:09.34 | brlcad | some one i'm sure |
| 20:11.15 | felix_mmbg | voulez vous coucher avec moi? |
| 20:11.26 | Birdie | no.. |
| 20:11.30 | Birdie | but i have question |
| 20:11.51 | Birdie | Paiement comptant à la livraison |
| 20:12.00 | Birdie | what does that mean |
| 20:15.27 | uso | anyone of the bzflag hackers are bored? |
| 20:15.28 | brlcad | ~translate fr en Paiement comptant à la livraison |
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| 20:16.20 | tea|tree | cX_- |
| 20:16.21 | brlcad | uso: probably one of them |
| 20:16.37 | uso | wanna reproduce a bug? |
| 20:16.40 | brlcad | what the heck is up with all the vague general questions? :) |
| 20:16.50 | uso | :) |
| 20:17.15 | brlcad | no, i don't really want to reproduce a bug |
| 20:17.38 | uso | OO is protected by building but is not sealed, i.e. can shoot |
| 20:17.39 | brlcad | if you found one, you should post it to the bug tracker with reproduce details for the most simple case |
| 20:18.09 | uso | with registration before? ;) |
| 20:18.23 | brlcad | that's all the details you can figure out |
| 20:19.51 | uso | is there another bugtracker besides sourceforge? |
| 20:20.17 | brlcad | you mean in the world? |
| 20:20.25 | uso | for bzflag :) |
| 20:20.47 | brlcad | sf's bug tracker is the bz bug tracker |
| 20:20.50 | uso | sourceforge requires registration |
| 20:21.05 | uso | ... and cookies :( |
| 20:21.19 | brlcad | and? |
| 20:21.51 | brlcad | can't communicate with an anonymous bug poster |
| 20:22.00 | *** join/#bzflag Tartaros (~icechat5@r4al250.chello.upc.cz) |
| 20:22.04 | brlcad | and if we can't communicate with them, the bug report is practically useless |
| 20:22.08 | uso | i hate registrations |
| 20:22.21 | uso | if u can reproduce it it's not |
| 20:22.43 | brlcad | i hate them when they serve no purpose, here they actually serve a specific purpose |
| 20:22.51 | brlcad | if you'd rather not, you can e-mail the mailing list |
| 20:24.23 | uso | ok |
| 20:27.30 | brlcad | the bug tracker is definitely preferred, though, unless it's a very simple to reproduce problem |
| 20:28.02 | brlcad | and someone may still say "post it to the tracker" when it goes to the list |
| 20:31.35 | orchid | !weather toronto |
| 20:31.58 | brlcad | ~weather kbwi |
| 20:32.00 | orchid | !weather cyyz |
| 20:32.02 | guu | orchid: The current temperature in Toronto-Pearson International, Ontario is 39°F (3:00 PM EST on March 06, 2005). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: 30°F. Wind: WNW at 21 mph (33 km/h). Pressure: 29.59 in (1002 hPa). Visibility: 10.0 miles (16.1 kilometers). UV: 2 out of 16 |
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| 21:10.29 | menotume | whoa, 39 degrees - heat wave |
| 21:11.03 | wegstar | i'm burning up here in sunny california :) |
| 21:33.21 | Aribeth | !weather 94087 |
| 21:33.28 | guu | Aribeth: The current temperature in Sunnyvale, California is 68°F (12:56 PM PST on March 06, 2005). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 52%. Dew Point: 50°F. Wind: WNW at 7 mph (11 km/h). Pressure: 30.12 in (1020 hPa). Visibility: 10.0 miles (16.1 kilometers). UV: 7 out of 16 |
| 21:35.28 | felix_mmbg | one more small question: |
| 21:36.33 | felix_mmbg | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:36.47 | felix_mmbg | what if i want to bounce back? |
| 21:53.19 | trepan_away | smoothbounce: interpolate given normals to fake smoother surface |
| 21:54.42 | felix_mmbg | i have +r now |
| 21:55.17 | felix_mmbg | but the smoothbounce object bounce |
| 21:57.27 | felix_mmbg | ok, i try ask in another way. |
| 21:58.11 | felix_mmbg | how to make singele object riccochet the shot |
| 21:58.43 | felix_mmbg | or not if +r is given |
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| 23:07.20 | Birdie | big troubles on hepcat server overlord |
| 23:07.24 | Birdie | need admins... |
| 23:07.27 | Birdie | cant get ip as cop |
| 23:12.33 | felix_mmbg | bye all |
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| 23:56.21 | uso | are the darker teleporters and shields a feature of the new maps or of bzflag 2.0? |
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