| 00:45.32 | sgk284 | quick random question for anyone who may know: |
| 00:46.35 | sgk284 | if you were given a csv file to parse, and one of the lines was: "","","","","","","","" would you expect the "" to become one quote, or since there is nothing between them and its not a double double quote within quotes just treat it as empty |
| 00:47.16 | sgk284 | i've been looking at a few different implementations and it seems to go either way :/ |
| 00:47.24 | sgk284 | just asking what makes more sense |
| 00:48.16 | sgk284 | ~random |
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| 00:50.07 | sgk284 | err if anyone was contemplating answering my question, nevermind I think i found the "official" answer |
| 00:57.56 | JeffM2501 | damn, I hate having to lock threads, |
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| 01:00.28 | hunters | i am having a problem getting the server list after installing 2.0 other version had no issues , is it using a different port? |
| 01:01.35 | JeffM2501 | nope |
| 01:01.46 | hunters | any other idears? |
| 01:01.52 | JeffM2501 | it may not work well now if your behind a trasnperant proxy tho |
| 01:01.53 | orchid | hmm, scorch was the voice of reason :-\ |
| 01:02.03 | JeffM2501 | since it sends more data to and from the list server |
| 01:02.05 | hunters | i use no proxy |
| 01:02.11 | JeffM2501 | hunters, does your ISP? |
| 01:02.22 | hunters | no idea |
| 01:02.25 | JeffM2501 | orchid, yeah that's how I had known it had gone way to far |
| 01:02.30 | orchid | :) |
| 01:02.32 | JeffM2501 | hunters, try seting it to use port 81 |
| 01:02.34 | hunters | and like i said , other version had no prob |
| 01:02.52 | hunters | ok , brb |
| 01:03.11 | JeffM2501 | 2.0 uses the list server for authentication |
| 01:03.22 | JeffM2501 | 1.10 did not |
| 01:04.08 | Grumbler | heh |
| 01:04.32 | hunters | k |
| 01:04.53 | hunters | it takes a long time to even load the game is that normal |
| 01:07.30 | hunters | i dont see where to change the port for the server list , |
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| 01:14.15 | hunters | i got it now , of course it was just firewall couldnt see it due to bzflag being full screen |
| 01:14.23 | hunters | thanks for help and for game |
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| 01:28.39 | orchid | ~seen widget |
| 01:28.47 | ibot | widget <~me@12-240-76-157.client.attbi.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #bzflag, 717d 16h 7m 3s ago, saying: 'hihihi'. |
| 01:29.05 | edini | hihihi |
| 01:31.01 | bryjen | 717 days |
| 01:31.47 | orchid | ~seen wingding |
| 01:31.48 | ibot | orchid: i haven't seen 'wingding' |
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| 03:40.19 | uso | hi |
| 03:42.30 | uso | on bzflag 2.0 i have double pictures if i turn. is this a new feature ("moving fuzziness") or a bug? |
| 03:59.58 | blast007 | double pictures? |
| 04:00.24 | blast007 | that's not a new feature :) |
| 04:00.37 | blast007 | what video card and operating system are you on? |
| 04:47.58 | uso | linux + radeon 9200 |
| 04:50.52 | uso | another question: is there any way to increase tank size on radar? tanks are much smaller there compared with 1.10 |
| 04:51.39 | uso | the gui is somewhat imbalanced |
| 04:52.01 | uso | on higher resolutions tanks on radar are too small |
| 04:52.19 | uso | on lower resolutions font size is too large |
| 04:52.45 | uso | even the second smallest font size |
| 04:53.25 | uso | the most smallest is ok from size, but is unreadable (as also the help in lower res is) |
| 04:58.08 | uso | hm, quake2 does not show this double pictures |
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| 04:59.31 | uso | oh oh, and is a lot faster then bzflag, 73 fps to 35 fps |
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| 05:32.15 | Tegan | hi guy |
| 05:37.45 | jpa_ | morning |
| 05:38.08 | jpa_ | ~weather EFTU |
| 05:38.36 | Tegan | g'day jpa_ |
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| 06:00.22 | Tegan | is there anything in bzadmin that stores the game mode of the server? |
| 06:04.36 | MeBigFatGuy | theer probably a /set command you could issue |
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| 06:20.02 | orchid | bzflag.disconnected.de:5155 has the best uptime at present, 41 days |
| 06:20.13 | sgk284 | ~DTRemenak++ |
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| 06:55.08 | corndawg | heyas folks |
| 06:55.17 | MeBigFatGuy | corny |
| 06:55.31 | corndawg | hey there MeBigFatGuy |
| 06:55.38 | corndawg | i must say... the new bzflag rox |
| 06:57.01 | MeBigFatGuy | co |
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| 07:13.32 | uso | is there an option to increase tank size on radar? |
| 07:14.17 | Tegan | sort of |
| 07:14.43 | Tegan | you can zoom the radar until it shows an actual tank |
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| 07:15.45 | uso | yes it would, if it hasn't a lot of bugs ;) |
| 07:16.02 | uso | oops, sry |
| 07:16.36 | uso | Tegan: no, i mean to increase the size of the points on radar |
| 07:16.59 | uso | they are much smaller than in 1.10 |
| 07:18.10 | uso | it's much more difficult to bring a CL down now |
| 07:22.58 | Tegan | you haven't seen me with CL then uso |
| 07:25.06 | uso | :) |
| 07:28.04 | uso | will there be a new release of bzflag soon? |
| 07:32.05 | sgk284 | uso 2.0.1 was supposed to be released a week or two ago, it got the okay from tim riker, but noonw has gotten around to it yet |
| 07:32.16 | sgk284 | lots of bug fixes |
| 07:40.07 | uso | nice, there's hope on the horizon :) |
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| 08:33.13 | ToughShooter | ~x de en Vorgänger |
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| 09:19.10 | LePoulpe | Hi all |
| 09:21.30 | LePoulpe | anyone knows why /identify must be typed when User and Password are typed in the main page ? |
| 09:22.59 | LePoulpe | it says "invalid callsign" |
| 09:24.11 | tupone | Probably you played there before the 2.0.0 |
| 09:24.39 | tupone | you should /unregister |
| 09:25.02 | LePoulpe | i registered with 2.0 |
| 09:25.28 | LePoulpe | i'll try to unreg then reg again |
| 09:25.50 | LePoulpe | but it do the same on several servers |
| 09:25.51 | tupone | you should unregister from the site, and register in the bzbb |
| 09:26.13 | tupone | bzbb.bzflag.org |
| 09:26.49 | LePoulpe | oh ok that's the tricvk |
| 09:27.02 | LePoulpe | i idin't expect that bzbb was linked db to servers |
| 09:27.16 | LePoulpe | i don't have exactly the same username on bzbb |
| 09:27.38 | tupone | you can register the nick then |
| 09:28.13 | LePoulpe | ok it works with other username |
| 09:28.27 | LePoulpe | it says 'global login approved" |
| 09:28.35 | LePoulpe | great |
| 09:28.39 | LePoulpe | thanks tupone |
| 09:31.10 | cods | weird, with kernel 2.6.11, using nvidia 4200 video card, I get freeze in bzflag each 2 or 3 seconds |
| 09:31.32 | cods | (and glxgears works fine) |
| 09:32.35 | cods | (and nvidia driver version 1.0.6629) |
| 09:32.46 | cods | does anyone with a similar setup encounter same behaviors ? |
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| 10:25.30 | corndawg | anyone alive? |
| 10:25.51 | LePoulpe303 | surviving .... |
| 10:26.53 | corndawg | ahhh |
| 10:30.05 | Mirella | hi |
| 10:30.22 | LePoulpe303 | hi Mirella |
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| 11:23.22 | SilverFox | manu, you around? |
| 11:23.36 | Pimpinella | hi SilverFox |
| 11:23.51 | _Manu_ | SilverFox: hi! |
| 11:23.55 | SilverFox | hello! |
| 11:24.01 | Pimpinella | and hi _Manu_ :) |
| 11:24.12 | _Manu_ | Hi all! :) |
| 11:24.26 | SilverFox | when someone is kicked for teamkilling (or any other reason for that matter), isn't your patch supposed to send a server message to the admin chan? |
| 11:26.14 | _Manu_ | at now.. only send messages when using anti-cheat or kick ban commands |
| 11:26.25 | Pimpinella | really? |
| 11:26.36 | _Manu_ | yes.. in 1.10 also for tkings.. |
| 11:26.42 | _Manu_ | i must add it to 2.0 too |
| 11:26.46 | Pimpinella | we had messages for server kicks before, hadn't we? |
| 11:26.53 | _Manu_ | now i'm cleaning endShot anti cheat |
| 11:27.00 | Pimpinella | ic |
| 11:27.17 | _Manu_ | i'll add messages for every server kick |
| 11:33.50 | SilverFox | I'm really interested in that one. |
| 11:35.52 | _Manu_ | i'll do.. be patient.. heh |
| 11:45.21 | SilverFox | I am. Just wanted to let you know I'm interested when you're done. |
| 11:45.27 | tupone | probably CIA-5 is sleeping |
| 11:45.29 | SilverFox | thanks much! |
| 11:45.31 | _Manu_ | heh |
| 11:46.32 | _Manu_ | CIA-5 is sleeping for my last commits.. :( |
| 11:47.10 | tupone | not really sleeping then |
| 11:47.15 | _Manu_ | lol |
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| 11:53.14 | ToughShooter | Hi SportChick |
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| 12:05.05 | Pimpinella | ~log |
| 12:05.07 | ibot | log is, like, as piece of wood |
| 12:05.15 | Pimpinella | ~chanlog |
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| 12:54.54 | Mirella | hello |
| 12:55.04 | jpa_ | hi |
| 12:55.06 | Mirella | is it possible to add snipers over the builds? |
| 12:55.13 | jpa_ | snipers? |
| 12:55.16 | Mirella | with a bazooka |
| 12:55.17 | jpa_ | builds? |
| 12:55.29 | Mirella | in the bzfield |
| 12:55.36 | jpa_ | oh, in map :) |
| 12:55.36 | Mirella | a sniper in the bzfield |
| 12:55.40 | Mirella | yep |
| 12:55.46 | Mirella | a man with a bazooka |
| 12:55.50 | jpa_ | i thought you meant a "build" as in binary backage |
| 12:55.51 | Mirella | over a build |
| 12:55.56 | jpa_ | no :) |
| 12:56.06 | jpa_ | no such object as snipermanwithabazooka |
| 12:56.18 | Mirella | so one can play as sniper |
| 12:56.27 | jpa_ | nope |
| 12:56.43 | jpa_ | while you can make a building for sniper people and sniper team that spawns there |
| 12:57.04 | jpa_ | and even put for example rapid fire flags for them there |
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| 12:57.41 | jpa_ | have you ever made a bzw map? |
| 12:57.41 | Mirella | "building" package ;-)) |
| 12:57.57 | Mirella | not yet |
| 12:58.02 | Mirella | only a player for now |
| 12:58.19 | jpa_ | so, make and you do not want to ask again :) |
| 12:58.40 | jpa_ | bzw maps are about objects like boxes, pyramids etc. |
| 12:59.06 | jpa_ | and meshes in 2.0, that you could make a man with, but no-one could play as him anyway |
| 12:59.08 | Mirella | and not cats or other objects |
| 12:59.14 | Mirella | ah oki |
| 12:59.58 | jpa_ | mesh is a arbitrary 3d object, you can convert .obj files from for example blender |
| 13:00.50 | jpa_ | (and note that mesh are stationary - moving mesh is not supported) |
| 13:00.56 | Mirella | but they are static |
| 13:01.00 | Mirella | oki |
| 13:08.32 | ToughShooter | ~jpa_++ |
| 13:08.46 | jpa_ | ~toughshooter++ |
| 13:08.50 | jpa_ | :) |
| 13:08.59 | ToughShooter | For being so nice ;-) |
| 13:13.49 | jpa_ | :) |
| 13:13.57 | jpa_ | being nice is fun |
| 13:14.09 | jpa_ | ibot jpa_ |
| 13:14.10 | ibot | rumour has it, jpa_ is an evil master whose primary goal is to take a karma lead over SportChick or to get free jars of Nutella......only time will tell...huaaahhhha |
| 13:15.14 | cods | :) |
| 13:15.23 | jpa_ | hi cods |
| 13:15.25 | cods | hi |
| 13:15.36 | jpa_ | i saw that you have remade the rabbit map |
| 13:15.50 | cods | partially yes |
| 13:15.56 | jpa_ | first i was thinking "wow this test map is huge.. 100kB" |
| 13:16.33 | cods | -rw-r--r-- 1 fred users 1612427 Mar 2 19:24 map-test/master |
| 13:16.35 | cods | uncompressed |
| 13:16.44 | jpa_ | ew :) |
| 13:17.13 | jpa_ | i wonder if bzfs limits the download speed |
| 13:17.33 | cods | I don't think, because it's very fast on LAN |
| 13:18.53 | jpa_ | maybe it is something like transmit-waitforack-transmit |
| 13:19.06 | jpa_ | like tftp |
| 13:20.33 | cods | map is transfered over udp ? I always thought it was over TCP |
| 13:20.45 | jpa_ | is it= |
| 13:24.02 | ToughShooter | Hmm, why is the new map so much bigger than the old one? They seem pretty similar. |
| 13:24.58 | cods | the old one use predefined objects in bzflag |
| 13:25.06 | cods | while the other one describe everything with meshes |
| 13:25.15 | cods | (including normals and texture coordinates) |
| 13:25.40 | ToughShooter | Is there a reason why you did it that way? |
| 13:25.57 | Mirella | for snipers with bazooka |
| 13:26.08 | cods | yes, to be able to create more detailled map, with custom shape. |
| 13:26.41 | cods | actually, of course, it's very similar, but only because i'm rewritting part (cell) one by one without really using new feature allowed by my script. |
| 13:27.18 | ToughShooter | I don't know about stuff like shapes :( |
| 13:27.44 | cods | predefined objects include pyramid, box, arc, cone, sphere |
| 13:27.48 | ToughShooter | I suppose it can only be costum with meshes |
| 13:28.06 | cods | if I want a box with a round hole, it's impossible with these predefined objects. |
| 13:29.32 | jpa_ | cods: one difference: the texture on the ring looks much better :) |
| 13:29.34 | ToughShooter | Yes, I've already worked with the predefined objects but not with meshes |
| 13:29.41 | cods | jpa_: yep :) |
| 13:30.15 | cods | ToughShooter: working with meshes by hand is just impossible for anything more complicated than a box |
| 13:30.30 | cods | so that you need either a 3d modeler (blender,..) or a script like the one I made |
| 13:30.36 | jpa_ | is an escalator more complicated than box? |
| 13:30.59 | jpa_ | like the one on my map /_| |
| 13:31.00 | cods | what's an escalator ? Just a rotated box ? |
| 13:31.09 | cods | sort of pyramid ? |
| 13:31.23 | jpa_ | oh well.. it has only 6 vertices when a box has 8 :) |
| 13:31.26 | jpa_ | nope |
| 13:31.36 | jpa_ | like a triangle extruded |
| 13:31.42 | cods | ok, let me refine: "[...] more complicated than a object with <= 10 faces" |
| 13:31.49 | ToughShooter | I've used blender a bit but then I didn't managed to get some stuff for my map. I think I'll get this working when I find a manual... |
| 13:32.29 | cods | my script work more or less in the same spirit than POV Ray (of course, my script is a toy compared to it.) |
| 13:33.27 | cods | it allow to mix shape between them to create more complex shape (substracting or merging objects) |
| 13:33.43 | cods | aka CSG operations |
| 13:33.45 | jpa_ | or take two boxes and create a broken box :) |
| 13:34.03 | cods | yup :/ |
| 13:35.22 | jpa_ | i should look again to my "fix" |
| 13:35.38 | tupone | map transfer to client can really be increased using ftp via -cacheout option when running bzfs |
| 13:36.16 | jpa_ | it should be simple.. if substracting and faces aling the same way, remove. if opposite, remove the substracted one |
| 13:37.40 | cods | jpa_: hmm, at this subject, I found Java code that do that.. |
| 13:37.48 | cods | I have the link somewhere.. wait a minute |
| 13:39.46 | cods | btw, to have useful hit in Google for CSG stuff, better keywords are "regularized boolean set operations" |
| 13:43.34 | cods | all the hard part is to find the good keywords :) |
| 13:53.44 | Grumbler | mornin |
| 13:54.09 | jpa_ | monring Grumbler |
| 13:57.28 | menotume | mornin Grumbler |
| 13:57.36 | menotume | ~Grumbler++ |
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| 14:18.13 | orange | _Manu_: do you have a wish list of things you're working on for servers? If so, I have some ideas to put on it that seem to be in the same genre as some of the other things you've done in the past. |
| 14:24.31 | menotume | _Manu_: did you do anthing with autoTeamSelect() in bzfs ? |
| 14:36.17 | Grumbler | _Manu_< i have this thing scratch in the middle of my back.....got anything for that? |
| 14:37.06 | Grumbler | :) |
| 14:37.32 | orange | oh, great, now my request is pushed out by TWO others :-) |
| 14:38.32 | Grumbler | :) |
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| 14:45.10 | _Manu_ | lol |
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| 14:46.33 | _Manu_ | brlcad: hola! |
| 14:46.54 | brlcad | menotume: unless something else is going on, the team rejoin problem might have been intentional |
| 14:47.01 | brlcad | hola _Manu_ |
| 14:47.16 | _Manu_ | i commited endShot cheat detection |
| 14:47.22 | brlcad | i noticed |
| 14:47.29 | menotume | _Manu_: nice !!! |
| 14:47.40 | menotume | brlcad: no - i'm thinking of the autoteam problem |
| 14:47.55 | brlcad | menotume: er,that's what I'm referring to |
| 14:48.02 | menotume | bug #1155434 |
| 14:48.10 | menotume | that can't be intentional |
| 14:48.19 | brlcad | tupone changed it to prefer bigger teams over even teams across all teams |
| 14:48.32 | menotume | player counts are wrong on the list server, and team balancing is borked |
| 14:48.48 | _Manu_ | yes.. that seems buggy |
| 14:49.24 | menotume | example: 4 green, 4 blue, 4 purp, 2 red |
| 14:49.36 | menotume | try to join red, assigns you to purp :) |
| 14:50.07 | menotume | the teambalance logic may be fine - could be the 'teamcounts' are incorrect |
| 14:50.08 | _Manu_ | counts are wrong.. and also playerLimits |
| 14:50.15 | menotume | :) |
| 14:50.16 | brlcad | yeah |
| 14:50.42 | brlcad | it's not supposed to override a team choice iirc unless you pick automatic |
| 14:50.57 | menotume | ? |
| 14:51.03 | brlcad | or unless server forces automatic |
| 14:51.07 | menotume | right |
| 14:51.44 | _Manu_ | brlcad: perhaps i'll add admin messages for server kicks.. like team killing, cheating.. what do you think about it? |
| 14:51.59 | brlcad | admin messages? |
| 14:52.03 | _Manu_ | brlcad: as i got in 1.10 code |
| 14:52.17 | _Manu_ | yes.. when the server kick a player send an admin message.. to admin chat.. |
| 14:52.26 | _Manu_ | it helps for cops and admins |
| 14:52.36 | brlcad | oh you mean to others still playing |
| 14:52.50 | brlcad | that sounds reasonable |
| 14:52.57 | _Manu_ | no.. example: player x is removed because team killing |
| 14:53.40 | _Manu_ | then the server sends a message (adminPlayer) telling: Player x has been kicked, reason: Team Killing |
| 14:54.02 | _Manu_ | like in my endShot.. look at the code |
| 14:54.35 | _Manu_ | then it's easy to know when a player is teamkillng or sometimes cheating.. |
| 14:55.07 | brlcad | ehh, how's that not what I just said? :) |
| 14:55.17 | _Manu_ | dunno.. hehe |
| 14:55.30 | _Manu_ | may be yes.. :) |
| 14:55.34 | Grumbler | because _Manu_ said it with feeling |
| 14:56.43 | Grumbler | although my intrepational difference was that you indicated you would message everyone and _Manu_ indicated an admin only channel message |
| 14:56.58 | _Manu_ | brlcad: you told to others.. i mean only for those who has rights for reading admin messages |
| 14:57.09 | _Manu_ | Grumbler: yep |
| 14:57.36 | Grumbler | ....if your done there, i have this scratch on my back....you got anything for that? ;) |
| 14:57.36 | _Manu_ | in vipers server any admin or cop can read it |
| 14:58.08 | _Manu_ | and it helps a lot.. first for teamkillers |
| 14:58.40 | menotume | Grumbler: itch it |
| 14:58.44 | menotume | oops |
| 14:58.53 | _Manu_ | he left.. |
| 14:58.59 | menotume | ya |
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| 15:05.36 | orange | _Manu_: I'll go ahead and list my ideas and you can ignore them if you want :-) |
| 15:05.49 | orange | something in the scoreboard to highlight players with high tk ratios |
| 15:06.05 | orange | (like an intermediate step before kicking them for too high tk ratio) |
| 15:06.50 | orange | admin ability to kill a certain player (syntax same as kick) |
| 15:06.51 | menotume | how about TK ratio being displayed (#TKs / #enemy kills) |
| 15:07.25 | orange | menotume: that could also work |
| 15:07.28 | menotume | as, some people only consider total # of TKs, and don't think of ratios |
| 15:07.37 | orange | right |
| 15:08.49 | orange | last, someone else suggested to me, and I think this would be a client-side thing, but the ability to automatically ride with the player with highest tk ratio... that might be easy, if the client gets the raw numbers for players score (including tk's, kills, etc.) rather than just getting some raw text to put on the scoreboard |
| 15:12.48 | _Manu_ | yes.. could be usefull |
| 15:13.49 | _Manu_ | well there is not equal 10 tks when killed 100 players than when killed 20 |
| 15:13.56 | _Manu_ | that's because the ratio |
| 15:14.12 | [dmp] | any german-reading people here? |
| 15:14.27 | _Manu_ | you? :) |
| 15:15.11 | [dmp] | _Manu_: Nope - i use babelfish, and some sentences are just wierd :-) |
| 15:15.35 | _Manu_ | ah.. yes... i know |
| 15:18.45 | Sporty | hi Toughshooter |
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| 15:30.10 | jpa_ | hi sportarentthereenoughtofyoualreadychick |
| 15:31.49 | Redbaron2 | wow.. |
| 15:32.15 | Redbaron2 | ok, forget trying to decifer that.. |
| 15:32.20 | TheRedBaron | jpa_, too much caffiene? |
| 15:32.27 | Redbaron2 | lol, hey SC |
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| 15:35.48 | jpa_ | TheRedBaron: no |
| 15:36.00 | jpa_ | too much caffeine is not possible to have |
| 15:36.31 | TheRedBaron | jpa_ i concur... |
| 15:37.08 | jpa_ | ~dict concur |
| 15:37.32 | jpa_ | you happen in the same time with what? |
| 15:37.57 | Redbaron2 | lol |
| 15:38.08 | bryjen | guu: dict concur |
| 15:38.10 | guu | bryjen: web1913, foldoc, and wn responded: foldoc: CONCUR ["CONCUR, A Language for Continuous Concurrent Processes", R.M. Salter et al, Comp Langs 5(3):163-189 (1981)]; wn: concur v 1: be in accord; be in agreement; "We agreed on the terms of the settlement"; "I can't agree with you!"; "I hold with those who say life is sacred"; "Both philosophers concord on this point" [syn: {agree}, (3 more messages) |
| 15:38.21 | jpa_ | why is there two TheRedBarons or is the other one fake? |
| 15:38.28 | Redbaron2 | *coughs* |
| 15:38.42 | Redbaron2 | last i checked i was real.. |
| 15:38.56 | orange | someone /kick him and see |
| 15:39.04 | Redbaron2 | lol |
| 15:39.06 | bryjen | all the hallucenations say that ;) |
| 15:39.34 | Redbaron2 | heheh :p |
| 15:39.40 | TheRedBaron | !lart Redbaron2 |
| 15:39.50 | TheRedBaron | Yup, only me left. |
| 15:40.13 | Redbaron2 | .. |
| 15:40.30 | jpa_ | maybe they both are fake |
| 15:40.42 | jpa_ | otherwise one of them would claim that the other is fake |
| 15:40.46 | Grumbler | ...every time i see the barons i think of Dune..... |
| 15:41.50 | Redbaron2 | jpa_: well in that case, TRB is fake :) |
| 15:42.10 | Grumbler | is there a RedBaron1 |
| 15:42.13 | jpa_ | but then, if he was fake, he would claim he's not |
| 15:42.21 | TheRedBaron | I"m not fake! |
| 15:42.24 | TheRedBaron | :P |
| 15:42.26 | jpa_ | yes |
| 15:42.46 | jpa_ | and soon they would be claiming that the other one is fake and doing it in the same time |
| 15:42.47 | TheRedBaron | Grumbler: nah. we axed him. |
| 15:43.39 | Redbaron2 | i'm real, and he's an imposter..simple as that.. |
| 15:43.39 | Grumbler | add that TheRedBaron would be playing a TANK game.... |
| 15:43.44 | Grumbler | err, odd |
| 15:44.19 | TheRedBaron | true, but he flies enough... |
| 15:44.35 | SC | hiya RedBaron |
| 15:44.45 | TheRedBaron | Howdy South Carolina :) |
| 15:44.55 | Redbaron2 | lol |
| 15:45.09 | TheRedBaron | errr SportChick :P |
| 15:45.17 | jpa_ | after my really long-lasting research, i say that Redbaron2 and TheRedBaron are both one and the same really strange person who tries to be funny |
| 15:45.39 | Redbaron2 | lol |
| 15:45.54 | Grumbler | i think they are brother and sister. |
| 15:45.55 | TheRedBaron | jpa_ the question is, are they or he or she or IT successful? |
| 15:46.07 | jpa_ | none of the four |
| 15:46.12 | Redbaron2 | lol |
| 15:46.21 | jpa_ | only jpa has success |
| 15:46.51 | TheRedBaron | Grumbler is right, almost, but give him a beer anyway. |
| 15:47.02 | jpa_ | no-one "lol":s at *redbaron*, but i get lot of "lol" |
| 15:47.25 | Grumbler | yes, end the debate....time for hefeweisen |
| 15:48.02 | Redbaron2 | we're not exactly "brother and sister"... |
| 15:48.11 | Redbaron2 | more like brother and brother.. :D |
| 15:48.45 | jpa_ | which of you can't invent nick for himself and has to copy the other? |
| 15:49.04 | Redbaron2 | well obviously trb, seeing as i'm the 2nd :p |
| 15:49.27 | TheRedBaron | now thats fuzzy math if there ever was some... |
| 15:49.31 | Redbaron2 | lol |
| 15:50.36 | jpa_ | hmph hmph |
| 15:50.39 | TheRedBaron | We did it because it confuses people... it was a mutual agreement to go under such nicks |
| 15:50.53 | jpa_ | you (anything between 1 and 2) are confusing me |
| 15:51.23 | TheRedBaron | so therefore we are successful! |
| 15:51.55 | jpa_ | no |
| 15:52.04 | jpa_ | ~theredbaron-- |
| 15:52.10 | jpa_ | i do not like being confused :S |
| 15:52.14 | jpa_ | ~redbaron2-- |
| 15:52.15 | TheRedBaron | bah! |
| 15:52.45 | TheRedBaron | ~whaleslap jpa_ for his confusion |
| 15:52.47 | ibot | ACTION slaps jpa_ for his confusion upside and over the head with one freakishly huge killer whale named hugh |
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| 15:53.13 | jpa_ | thanks, that helped |
| 15:53.19 | jpa_ | ~theredbaron++ |
| 15:54.03 | TheRedBaron | No problem I don't mind helping out... |
| 15:55.25 | Redbaron2 | its our specialty |
| 15:55.40 | Grumbler | dang twins |
| 15:56.24 | jpa_ | however, it is easy to distinguish those two |
| 15:56.25 | jpa_ | one of them is an idiot, the other one is not |
| 15:56.36 | TheRedBaron | Yup. Rb2 is the idiot. |
| 15:56.55 | Grumbler | ah, so they are sisters |
| 15:57.24 | TheRedBaron | no. brothers. |
| 15:58.01 | Grumbler | sure you are....sure........just couldnt fit that baroness thing in there could ya |
| 15:58.11 | Redbaron2 | well, she's farely new to bz |
| 15:58.16 | Redbaron2 | and yes she is a sister |
| 15:58.39 | jpa_ | oh, so she is a transvestit? |
| 15:58.46 | TheRedBaron | She objected to being Red Baron4 |
| 15:59.22 | Grumbler | another whole family playing bz......should have a family match...the barons vs the ...well, whatever their name is |
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| 16:00.26 | TheRedBaron | grumbler: just shy 1 or 2 computers to make that possible... |
| 16:01.03 | Grumbler | 2v2 tag team then |
| 16:01.17 | jpa_ | my sister plays too :) |
| 16:01.36 | jpa_ | while she is too good so i refuse to play on same server so that it does not become obvious |
| 16:01.44 | TheRedBaron | jpa_ wonderful! start a team together. |
| 16:02.43 | TheRedBaron | jpa_ what's really fun to do, is have a rouge team on a server. Both of you go rouge, and team together... |
| 16:03.17 | TheRedBaron | that way you are unaffected by geno, and if you shot her, or she shoots you, more points ;) |
| 16:03.31 | jpa_ | njah |
| 16:03.41 | jpa_ | i still refuse to play on same server |
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| 16:04.53 | TheRedBaron | grumbler, the real question is. how many family arguments are resolved via bz ;) |
| 16:04.55 | Redbaron2 | lol, trb and i have an "all rights reserved" document |
| 16:05.06 | Redbaron2 | seing as we were the first 2 players |
| 16:05.23 | Redbaron2 | and they've only been playing within the last year |
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| 16:07.30 | Grumbler | "they"......i know a few families that have been playing for at least 2-3 |
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| 16:07.56 | Redbaron2 | well, trb and i have been playing for 7+ |
| 16:08.08 | Grumbler | prove it :) |
| 16:08.14 | Redbaron2 | lol |
| 16:08.54 | kierra | i have been fighting with them for over 6 years about all the time wasted on bz |
| 16:09.45 | TheRedBaron | grumbler, Hold on. i'l get you some evidence :) |
| 16:10.10 | kierra | my witness isnt enough?? |
| 16:10.50 | Grumbler | mom said never trust the germans.......of course she is german, so i never did get that implication....... |
| 16:11.18 | kierra | well, I'm not german :) |
| 16:11.35 | Redbaron2 | lol |
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| 16:14.59 | TheRedBaron | do you remember this site? |
| 16:15.02 | TheRedBaron | http://p218.ezboard.com/fbzflagfrm1 |
| 16:15.29 | Redbaron2 | i do :) |
| 16:15.49 | TheRedBaron | You won't find the callsigh "TheRedBaron" because its ezboard, global registration... |
| 16:16.15 | TheRedBaron | and I already had a ezboard account, and I didn't want to bother making a new one. |
| 16:16.38 | TheRedBaron | so i used my old one "KalentheWarrior" |
| 16:16.42 | Grumbler | come on, that only goes back to 2000..........the real question is do you remember cell.unm.edu? |
| 16:16.47 | Redbaron2 | yea |
| 16:16.55 | Redbaron2 | i remember cell.unm |
| 16:17.02 | TheRedBaron | snow monkey's server hell ya! |
| 16:17.11 | Grumbler | ooka ooka |
| 16:17.20 | TheRedBaron | CapN's favorite spot was that one building that had that cube on top |
| 16:17.30 | Redbaron2 | that you could hide in |
| 16:17.33 | TheRedBaron | you could drop down through that cube with GM and shoot out |
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| 16:17.38 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o JeffM2501] by ChanServ |
| 16:17.58 | Redbaron2 | lol, used to fight him for that spot :) |
| 16:18.04 | Grumbler | next question, who built the map? |
| 16:18.11 | Grumbler | "kill the rat" |
| 16:18.19 | TheRedBaron | Gerbil. |
| 16:18.31 | Grumbler | well, i guess its possible you have been around awhile |
| 16:18.57 | TheRedBaron | I go my the year 98. when we got broadband. and I seriously started multi-playing. |
| 16:19.00 | Redbaron2 | lol started in 98 :) |
| 16:19.35 | Grumbler | i still miss chardonney......although i am glad perfect_cell has remained silent. |
| 16:19.41 | TheRedBaron | true! |
| 16:19.52 | Redbaron2 | chardonney was cool |
| 16:20.00 | Grumbler | simple combat |
| 16:20.05 | TheRedBaron | Chardonney though, that arena was too big. through off radar sizing. |
| 16:20.27 | TheRedBaron | *threw |
| 16:21.04 | Redbaron2 | what was the other one.. themesis? |
| 16:21.10 | TheRedBaron | And Oma herta, Lazarus, Frank.... |
| 16:21.45 | TheRedBaron | http://autumnmist.homeip.net:81/webpages/bzflag/lazarus.html |
| 16:22.27 | Grumbler | heh |
| 16:22.47 | TheRedBaron | or |
| 16:22.50 | TheRedBaron | http://autumnmist.homeip.net:81/webpages/bzflag/ |
| 16:23.39 | Grumbler | i remember lupinator |
| 16:23.43 | TheRedBaron | Grumbler, i suspect perfect_cell changed to knightmare, but thats a whole nother ball field. |
| 16:24.02 | TheRedBaron | lupinator still plays on ducati once in a while.... |
| 16:24.47 | Grumbler | i learned during the cell.unm and chardonney days......then prefected my style on moongroup against razzberry |
| 16:25.08 | TheRedBaron | yup. |
| 16:25.24 | Redbaron2 | lol, too many OO onthat server though |
| 16:25.25 | _Manu_ | turkey moongroup... heh those times |
| 16:25.26 | Grumbler | so you have been around a little longer than the Grumbler/Bagheera |
| 16:25.55 | Grumbler | depended on the map on turkey....they had madcity for a long time |
| 16:25.56 | TheRedBaron | bagheera/koba |
| 16:26.00 | TheRedBaron | :) |
| 16:26.00 | Grumbler | heh |
| 16:26.26 | Grumbler | had to give koba up to my brother |
| 16:27.11 | TheRedBaron | Yea, turkeymoongroup was a great server, but it put poor kernal panic through alot of crap... |
| 16:27.21 | Grumbler | ...actually i think turkey ran the various lead in maps to the existing madcity |
| 16:27.55 | Grumbler | yeah, kp caught hell.....but once his daughter got married, he dropped the whole thing |
| 16:28.03 | TheRedBaron | Grapes of Wrath was the original author of madcity |
| 16:28.21 | TheRedBaron | yea, I think KP still goes as "RR" at the forum |
| 16:28.23 | Grumbler | it was real simple |
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| 16:28.49 | Redbaron2 | actually i saw kernel on secretplace not too long ago |
| 16:29.00 | Redbaron2 | assuming it was the real one |
| 16:29.07 | Grumbler | that is the difficulty |
| 16:29.16 | Redbaron2 | yea |
| 16:29.27 | Grumbler | if he is camping with OO, then its him :) |
| 16:29.40 | Grumbler | just like razzberry and ST |
| 16:29.40 | TheRedBaron | yup no doubt. |
| 16:30.02 | Grumbler | ....i still have nightmares about trying to hunt him down |
| 16:30.11 | TheRedBaron | thank god for the seer flag now :) |
| 16:30.12 | Redbaron2 | ugh, i hated razzbery for st |
| 16:30.31 | Grumbler | yeah, the seer flag really killed razzberry's power |
| 16:30.38 | Redbaron2 | thankfully :) |
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| 16:31.30 | Redbaron2 | i liked his "razzberry's world" map though |
| 16:31.33 | Grumbler | should have an old player map......no seer, no wings..... |
| 16:31.41 | _Manu_ | Grumbler: i play bzflag since 1.6e4 i think.. |
| 16:31.54 | _Manu_ | or earlier.. |
| 16:31.56 | Grumbler | yeah, spaceman spiff did that for razz |
| 16:32.06 | _Manu_ | yes.. yesterday spaceman was here |
| 16:32.11 | Grumbler | i saw |
| 16:32.18 | TheRedBaron | wow... |
| 16:32.46 | Redbaron2 | spiff was here?! |
| 16:32.52 | _Manu_ | and razz still plays.. or at last some months ago |
| 16:33.00 | Redbaron2 | i havn't seen him since he left bz |
| 16:33.08 | _Manu_ | Dervish Dukot last time i seen was 2004 May |
| 16:33.17 | _Manu_ | he is using another call signs |
| 16:33.25 | Redbaron2 | figured |
| 16:33.36 | _Manu_ | yep.. |
| 16:33.46 | Grumbler | dukot and spiff got caught up in the whole cop zealot scandals |
| 16:33.56 | Redbaron2 | yea |
| 16:34.05 | TheRedBaron | yup... |
| 16:34.30 | _Manu_ | my first kick was from dukot. heh |
| 16:34.43 | _Manu_ | years ago.. |
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| 16:35.02 | TheRedBaron | only server I got banned from was one run by a guy named "morpheous" |
| 16:35.11 | Grumbler | they were aggressive |
| 16:35.12 | Redbaron2 | lol, i remember that bro |
| 16:35.23 | _Manu_ | at the end.. nice guys |
| 16:35.24 | Redbaron2 | morpheous would kick us because we would beat him |
| 16:35.33 | TheRedBaron | But that's because he didn't like me finding the laser flag. |
| 16:36.06 | TheRedBaron | ~Grumbler++ |
| 16:36.26 | _Manu_ | Grumbler: if you want.. i can ban you ;-P |
| 16:36.32 | Redbaron2 | it was a nice map..unfortunately morpheus just didn't like to get beaten |
| 16:36.45 | Grumbler | 1. i am not good, 2. i put up with a lot of stuff, 3. i dont usually retailate |
| 16:36.57 | edini | SportChick banned me once, i think :) |
| 16:37.09 | Grumbler | sportchick bans everyone :) |
| 16:37.16 | Redbaron2 | hehe |
| 16:37.34 | Noodle-sensei | i used to be very strict when it came to cussing on my server |
| 16:37.41 | Noodle-sensei | *very* strict |
| 16:37.42 | edini | and i coudnt play for... 1-2monts :> |
| 16:37.45 | kierra | women like power |
| 16:38.02 | TheRedBaron | Grumbler: same here, he just didn't like me watching were flags dissapeared and reappeard. |
| 16:38.04 | Grumbler | heh, i think i eventually banned everyone from my server |
| 16:38.05 | Noodle-sensei | so then people would just cuss when i wasn't on :-P |
| 16:38.36 | Redbaron2 | lol |
| 16:38.42 | kierra | good for you! |
| 16:38.46 | Noodle-sensei | i did that sometimes too |
| 16:38.48 | TheRedBaron | grumbler, quite the vigilante eh? |
| 16:39.15 | Grumbler | eh, it was my server, and it was rule....i got a little aggressive myself |
| 16:39.35 | Grumbler | but i had grace periods where i removed all the bans and started from scratch |
| 16:40.03 | Grumbler | ah, well, lunch....l8r |
| 16:40.11 | TheRedBaron | Cya grumbo |
| 16:40.24 | Noodle-sensei | i wish i could go to lunch |
| 16:40.31 | Redbaron2 | later grumbler |
| 16:41.03 | bryjen | a bit early for lunch over there, noodle |
| 16:41.34 | Noodle-sensei | i know, and it makes me sad ;-( |
| 16:41.44 | TheRedBaron | bryjen: its never to early to eat. |
| 16:42.32 | Redbaron2 | if you're hungry, its time to eat :) |
| 16:42.45 | bryjen | and now we know why TheRedBaron had to give up the biplane ;) |
| 16:42.59 | bryjen | only so much lift there... |
| 16:43.06 | Noodle-sensei | :-P |
| 16:43.13 | Redbaron2 | lol! |
| 16:43.20 | TheRedBaron | lmao! |
| 16:43.39 | TheRedBaron | yea, even a triplane didn't work. so I'm stuck with the tank. |
| 16:43.53 | JeffM2501 | hovertanks are better |
| 16:44.12 | *** part/#bzflag kierra (~45f06abf@rw08.de) |
| 16:44.29 | TheRedBaron | when I get a mercenary upgrade, I'll get on of those too. |
| 16:44.54 | JeffM2501 | assult wakers are nice too |
| 16:45.10 | JeffM2501 | and variable mode hopers |
| 16:46.08 | TheRedBaron | woah, now you are running into the budget realm... My celebrity status died in WW1 its been slim pickings sense then. |
| 16:46.42 | TheRedBaron | *since |
| 16:48.54 | JeffM2501 | well there haven't been that many large scale wars since... |
| 16:49.04 | JeffM2501 | there will be more chances for you offworld. |
| 16:49.58 | TheRedBaron | If i survive them :P |
| 16:50.10 | JeffM2501 | you'll be fine |
| 16:50.18 | JeffM2501 | even with out your radar :) |
| 16:51.21 | Redbaron2 | lol |
| 16:53.07 | JeffM2501 | mass detectors are great, you'll love em :) |
| 16:54.28 | TheRedBaron | bah! |
| 16:54.39 | wizart | A mass detector bad flag would be something |
| 16:54.54 | JeffM2501 | flag? |
| 16:54.55 | wizart | like a radar that works kinda fuzzy |
| 16:54.55 | TheRedBaron | Speaking of radar, I have a feature request for my radar :0 |
| 16:54.57 | TheRedBaron | :) |
| 16:55.10 | Redbaron2 | and guess hat |
| 16:55.12 | Redbaron2 | er *what |
| 16:55.13 | JeffM2501 | why would a CTF flag have an active device on it? |
| 16:55.17 | Redbaron2 | it has to do with the shots again.. |
| 16:57.20 | TheRedBaron | yes |
| 16:57.49 | TheRedBaron | with colored shots turned ON, you have a level of altitude discrimination. |
| 16:58.00 | TheRedBaron | you can tell which shots are above you an which ones aren't |
| 16:58.15 | TheRedBaron | but with Colored shots turned OFF, you lose that discrimination. |
| 16:59.46 | JeffM2501 | IIRC non colored shots are just for legacy support |
| 17:02.19 | TheRedBaron | probally so, but I have a hard time seeing purple and blue shots on the radar, when I'm on a building |
| 17:02.54 | TheRedBaron | so when i turned the coloring off. I can see em better, but then i don't know which ones are above me or below, and which ones will frag me and which ones will not. |
| 17:03.14 | JeffM2501 | IIRC you can edit your config to change the colors of stuff on radar |
| 17:03.31 | TheRedBaron | yes radar.png right? |
| 17:03.46 | wizart | oh |
| 17:03.58 | wizart | so radar.png is for the shot colors on radar ? |
| 17:04.18 | JeffM2501 | no |
| 17:04.20 | TheRedBaron | i'm not sure wizart. I don't quite understand the whole scheme. |
| 17:04.21 | JeffM2501 | in your CONFIG |
| 17:04.42 | wizart | and what is radar.png for ? |
| 17:04.51 | JeffM2501 | looking |
| 17:05.00 | blast007 | maybe the fast radar? |
| 17:05.18 | TheRedBaron | hmm. |
| 17:05.23 | JeffM2501 | fast radar does use some textures yeah |
| 17:05.26 | wizart | what is the difference between enhanced and fast radar ? |
| 17:05.30 | trepan | yup, radar.png is for fast radar |
| 17:05.33 | JeffM2501 | fast radar is faster |
| 17:05.41 | JeffM2501 | enhanced radar is enhanced. |
| 17:05.43 | wizart | more fps ? |
| 17:05.50 | trepan | fast radar isn't neceassily faster, it depends on the map |
| 17:06.19 | SilverFox | enhanced will shade things so you get an idea of the altitude they are located at (in relation to you) Not sure what fast does differently. |
| 17:06.33 | wizart | ah |
| 17:06.46 | trepan | fast radar also does that, but uses texture mapping to do it |
| 17:06.49 | JeffM2501 | fast is better on high mesh worlds IIRC |
| 17:07.00 | Redbaron2 | yea |
| 17:07.01 | wizart | so enhanced/fast will use two different algorithms to draw the radar. |
| 17:07.04 | trepan | fast radar also does culling |
| 17:07.04 | TheRedBaron | silverfox: fast radar does the similar thing to enhanced, but uses a more advanced color shceme. |
| 17:07.20 | TheRedBaron | I've got to run guys, I'll bbl |
| 17:07.38 | JeffM2501 | colors can be "advanced"? |
| 17:07.55 | wizart | ok. And the radar.png is the texture for fading in and out of stuff ? |
| 17:08.49 | trepan | yup, it's a linear mapping of height to texture coord, with clamped limits |
| 17:09.06 | SilverFox | JeffM2501, sure!!! And food can taste chalky or taste hot, too. |
| 17:09.20 | trepan | (with alpha channel enabled in the texture) |
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| 17:10.00 | wizart | ah. I'm looking at the radar.png right now. Why is it colored ? |
| 17:10.00 | JeffM2501 | but is that food "advanced" aka, smarter, and/or further along some evolutionary or comparative scale? |
| 17:10.43 | SilverFox | pft. Haven't you ever heard of "smart food" ?!? |
| 17:11.01 | JeffM2501 | the food isn't smarter, it makes people smarter |
| 17:11.07 | JeffM2501 | the food is still biomass |
| 17:11.14 | SilverFox | If you have to eat alone, its nice to have someone to talk to (before you eat it, anyhow) |
| 17:11.47 | JeffM2501 | heh |
| 17:12.41 | SilverFox | and nothing "tastes" hot. Not all of us have immaculate elocution. (in fact, quite few do) |
| 17:22.07 | JeffM2501 | I think they have a pill for that |
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| 17:45.34 | bryjen | "advanced color shceme" perhaps it is the scheme that is advanced. or maybe TRB should leave the 'splainin' to trepan |
| 17:46.11 | JeffM2501 | that makes more sense |
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| 17:47.54 | SilverFox | what perm will allow /say ? |
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| 17:50.25 | bryjen | there is a SAY permission |
| 17:52.36 | SilverFox | bryjen, that does it! |
| 17:52.45 | SilverFox | Where can I find a list of permissions? |
| 17:53.10 | SilverFox | nm, its in the man page!!! ;) |
| 17:53.35 | SilverFox | there is no SAY in the man though. Any other undocumented perms out there? |
| 17:55.31 | bryjen | http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/bzflag/bzflag/src/bzfs/Permissions.cxx?view=markup |
| 17:55.52 | JeffM2501 | isn't it REALY new? |
| 17:55.52 | bryjen | use the source! |
| 17:57.04 | bryjen | 2-3 weeks |
| 17:57.51 | JeffM2501 | yeah so it woudld only be in CVS |
| 17:57.56 | JeffM2501 | and may not be doced yet |
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| 18:05.34 | SilverFox | cool. |
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| 18:13.32 | SilverFox | do permissions have to be all caps in the groupdb file? |
| 18:15.29 | ToughShooter | PING SportChick |
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| 18:18.37 | orchid | ciao Tupone |
| 18:19.29 | SilverFox | looks like FLAGSTATS has been replaced... |
| 18:20.01 | SilverFox | err... nm, thats lagstats. :-# |
| 18:21.26 | Tupone | CIAo orchid |
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| 18:22.16 | cosmos | cvs -z3 -d:pserver:anonymous@cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/bzflag co -P |
| 18:22.21 | cosmos | whats the mpod[3~[3~[3~ |
| 18:22.25 | cosmos | module for 2.0 |
| 18:22.38 | SilverFox | bzflag I believe. |
| 18:23.06 | cosmos | hey silver |
| 18:23.15 | SilverFox | hello! |
| 18:24.00 | cosmos | 2.0 crashes my os x n[3~like no tomorrow |
| 18:24.48 | SilverFox | ouch.. client or bzfs? |
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| 18:25.09 | cosmos | client i downloaded |
| 18:25.16 | SilverFox | For some reason I was getting segfaults yesterday with bzfs until I uninstalled lib1-adns-dev |
| 18:26.05 | Birdie | i need some one with knowledge about global login stuff that doesnt mind if i talk to him in a personal chat |
| 18:26.23 | SilverFox | what kind of knowledge? |
| 18:27.19 | SilverFox | bryjen, Permissions.cxx has all the perms, but it doesn't seem to show what each perm can do. Any idea where that is? (ie, SETVAR = /set /reset ) |
| 18:30.35 | SilverFox | probably CommandLineOptions |
| 18:30.44 | SilverFox | Cmd that is... |
| 18:30.55 | SilverFox | nope. |
| 18:33.39 | SilverFox | commands.cxx |
| 18:36.12 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: 03bryjen * 10bzflag/man/bzfs.6s: alpha sort permission list |
| 18:37.05 | bryjen | the user management section need some revising too. duplicated info |
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| 18:42.13 | SilverFox | I see PlayerAccessInfo::shortBan in commands.cxx, but I don't see what group permits it? |
| 18:43.21 | SilverFox | is it SHORTBAN ? |
| 18:43.33 | SilverFox | nm, found it. |
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| 18:53.17 | SilverFox | manpage says /masterbanflush and /masterbanreload, but if I'm reading commands.cxx correctly, current CVS is /masterban [reload] (default is flush) is that correct? |
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| 19:09.59 | SilverFox | VERIFIED = globally logged in player? |
| 19:10.37 | ToughShooter | yes |
| 19:10.54 | SilverFox | LOCAL.GLOBAL = locally logged in player? |
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| 19:16.40 | SilverFox | can you global auth with bzadmin? |
| 19:17.05 | Chestal | SilverFox: been a while since I looked at that stuff. IIRC, all players are in local.global group, unless the 'account' was created by /register |
| 19:17.33 | Chestal | in that case, no global login onthat server with that callsign is allowed until an admin adds the lobal.global group to that player |
| 19:18.06 | Chestal | yes, bzadmin can do it via callsign:password@server syntax |
| 19:20.34 | tea|tree_ | hola |
| 19:26.08 | SilverFox | when I type a /command in bzadmin it seems to say it (I say it) rather than execute it... |
| 19:30.24 | _Manu_ | SilverFox: you are very active today! :) |
| 19:35.31 | JeffM2501 | if it's a client side command it would not run, since bzadmin is not a full client ( IIRC ) |
| 19:36.54 | SilverFox | Manu, hehe... sorry. ;) |
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| 19:39.42 | SilverFox | What does the REJOIN permission do? |
| 19:40.10 | orange | prevents the forced delay on rejoin? |
| 19:40.34 | SilverFox | really?!? that's kind of neat. |
| 19:41.07 | SilverFox | REGISTERED is depracted, no? |
| 19:41.56 | SilverFox | deprecated that is. |
| 19:42.16 | cosmos | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:45.25 | SilverFox | REMOVEPERMS is /removegroup only, right? |
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| 19:52.53 | SilverFox | Please take a look at http://bzflag.org/wiki/GroupPermissions and check for accuracy. |
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| 20:04.09 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o TimRiker] by ChanServ |
| 20:04.43 | jpa_ | lala |
| 20:10.16 | orange | argh, where in the bzfs source is the scoreboard data compiled and sent to the client? |
| 20:11.38 | Pimpinella | _Manu_ should know |
| 20:11.59 | orange | yeah, but I was trying not to bug him... I was looking at a possible change to some stuff, and hoped to have a patch |
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| 20:12.54 | Pimpinella | i can send u a patch where it must be included |
| 20:13.54 | ToughShooter | PING Sporty |
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| 20:15.15 | orange | Pimpinella: heh, I have that patch... didn't even know it. And I guess that patch isn't in the cvs yet (player slot number in scoreboard) |
| 20:15.26 | Pimpinella | or line 1816 here |
| 20:16.27 | Pimpinella | yep and it won't go to cvs, it's just a quick hack to add slot number to a players email string |
| 20:16.54 | Pimpinella | this has to be done on client side |
| 20:17.10 | Pimpinella | i think _Manu_ already worked on that too |
| 20:17.10 | orange | oh, I thought it was going into cvs... and was done in the server |
| 20:17.34 | Pimpinella | no, the scoreboard is rendered client side |
| 20:18.05 | Pimpinella | once looked at it, but can't remember where exactly |
| 20:18.16 | orange | ok, I think we're saying the same thing :-) the patch is for the server, to put the slot number into the email string that is sent for the client to render as it does now |
| 20:18.31 | Pimpinella | yep |
| 20:19.00 | orange | but what I didn't know is that it wasn't going into cvs.. I guess it is somewhat forced in |
| 20:19.23 | orange | I was going to look at prepending the slot number to the callsign, rather than the email, so they'd all line up nicely |
| 20:19.42 | Pimpinella | it's a dirty hack, i don't think _Manu_ wants to commit it that way |
| 20:19.44 | jpa_ | hmm.. is the scoreboard compiled on the server? |
| 20:19.49 | jpa_ | oh |
| 20:19.51 | Pimpinella | no |
| 20:19.55 | jpa_ | Pimpinella answered already |
| 20:20.16 | _Manu_ | orange: my change is only server side for a patch.. the correct is implementing in client |
| 20:20.38 | orange | understood (now)... makes sense. |
| 20:20.42 | _Manu_ | how are you going to tell the client to render the slot? |
| 20:21.00 | orange | but... breaks protocol? Or does the client know the slot in addition to the email, callsign, score, etc., for each player? |
| 20:21.02 | _Manu_ | if there is no implemented code in the client |
| 20:21.13 | _Manu_ | i'm just using a visual trick for it |
| 20:21.27 | Pimpinella | _Manu_: the client knows a players slot number |
| 20:21.42 | Bagheera | it just doesnt know all the other players slot numbers |
| 20:22.05 | _Manu_ | yes.. of course |
| 20:22.09 | orange | I was just going to change it so that the visual trick put it before the callsign rather than after |
| 20:23.34 | Pimpinella | Bagheera: the client should know other players slot number, it couldn't know the origin of e.g. messages else, no? |
| 20:23.36 | _Manu_ | hehe.. try it.. without chaning the client.. heh |
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| 20:23.47 | Mirella | hello |
| 20:24.04 | orange | _Manu_: I see now why that won't work :-) |
| 20:24.10 | _Manu_ | the client actually only render what you see in standard servers |
| 20:24.23 | Bagheera | Pimpinella< maybe, but i think the server gets all the messages and then relays that out.....i dont think it relays the slot number...maybe, its been quite awhile |
| 20:25.06 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: 03atupone * 10bzflag/src/bzfs/AccessControlList.cxx: Fixing ban time. (At least it sounds good to me, now) |
| 20:26.06 | Pimpinella | if you get a public message "FooBar: blah blah blah" only the slot number of FooBar was sent to you by the server |
| 20:26.15 | Pimpinella | so the cient must kno |
| 20:26.35 | Pimpinella | Tupone: yeah :) |
| 20:26.45 | orange | so theoretically the client could display it now... and it wouldn't break anything for anyone, which is good |
| 20:27.06 | Pimpinella | it wouldn't break anything, no |
| 20:27.17 | _Manu_ | there is no problem for the client in rendering the slot number if the code is implementted (not now) |
| 20:27.23 | Pimpinella | just you'd need a new client to see it ;) |
| 20:27.28 | _Manu_ | but then... all the clients must update |
| 20:27.29 | orange | which is fine |
| 20:27.38 | orange | anyone who *wants* it has to upgrade :-) |
| 20:27.39 | Bagheera | why "must" |
| 20:27.49 | _Manu_ | when i made the change.. no clients were going to change because was a private patch |
| 20:28.03 | Pimpinella | only ops wh are too lazy to get a playerlist need to update |
| 20:28.21 | Pimpinella | there's no need for others to see slot numbers |
| 20:28.32 | orange | Pimpinella: on a busy server, you can have a lot of trouble reading it |
| 20:28.33 | orange | a lot |
| 20:28.38 | _Manu_ | Bagheera, must update for using the changes |
| 20:28.39 | Pimpinella | true |
| 20:29.09 | Bagheera | so its not a must, just a nice thing to have |
| 20:29.13 | Pimpinella | btw. i support Bagheera's idea of a configurable scoreboard |
| 20:29.22 | Pimpinella | bbl |
| 20:30.08 | Bagheera | not my idea......been around a long time, implement here and there......never put into release |
| 20:35.48 | orange | looks like showing email is configurable |
| 20:35.50 | orange | already |
| 20:37.02 | SilverFox | so, admin types will patch their client so they have slot numbers? |
| 20:37.09 | Bagheera | but if you start to add more and more information, then you need to have more and more configurability......would be nice to lagstats/jitter/slot/ip |
| 20:37.22 | orange | possibly, I'm working on such a patch now silverfox |
| 20:37.37 | orange | Bagheera: yes, but that sounds like it might break protocol... needs info not being sent right now |
| 20:37.42 | orange | good for the future, for sure |
| 20:37.53 | SilverFox | problem is, many windoze types can't easily patch cause they can't compile. |
| 20:38.11 | Bagheera | well, again, that could all be built into the client, thereby not breaking protocal, just enhancing the client |
| 20:38.17 | orange | SilverFox: if this works the way I want, it can go into the next release perhaps |
| 20:38.24 | SilverFox | orange, sounds like more bandwidth to be used that isn't always necessary. |
| 20:38.50 | SilverFox | orange, I'd expect it'd have to be a GUI option if it was in CVS. |
| 20:38.53 | orange | someone more wise than myself will have to answer how much impact that would have |
| 20:39.04 | orange | SilverFox: I'm thinking of an option you have to put into your config manually for now |
| 20:39.23 | SilverFox | orange, that'd be easier to impliment I'd think. |
| 20:39.59 | SilverFox | TimRiker, you around? Your wiki account is set to get email notifications, but the email address seems to be wrong: |
| 20:40.06 | SilverFox | [en] timriker: {'timriker': (501, ': recipient address must contain a domain')} |
| 20:44.58 | cosmos | can you still setup a server without the global login/ban stuff? |
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| 20:55.29 | ToughShooter | For no global bans accepted there is "-noMasterBanList" available, as far as I know global registration is only disabled when the server runs without "-public" and "-publicaddr" |
| 20:56.56 | cosmos | i dont want any global admins on my server |
| 20:59.21 | orange | don't assign admin privs to any global groups |
| 20:59.56 | cosmos | have no idea how the new stuff works |
| 21:01.12 | *** part/#bzflag ToughShooter (~ts@pD9EA67EC.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 21:01.23 | Tupone | cosmos: nobody acquire admin unless you say that |
| 21:02.17 | cosmos | did they add the -DenialofServiceSpoogeBob yet? |
| 21:02.40 | Tupone | is in the master ban |
| 21:02.58 | Tupone | IIRC |
| 21:03.47 | cosmos | nah i want him to be hit with a denial of service every time a server starts up ;) |
| 21:04.13 | Tupone | patch welcome :) |
| 21:06.52 | cosmos | the ADMIN group doesnt work anymore? the wiki sh[3~ure hasnt been updated this is as confusing as shit |
| 21:08.34 | Chestal | it's LOCAL.ADMIN now |
| 21:08.35 | orange | how do you append an uint8_t value to a std::string |
| 21:09.11 | Chestal | cosmos: LOCAL.* groups are guaranteed to never use the global group membership |
| 21:09.29 | Chestal | a good tutorial on permisin/group system would be nice to have |
| 21:09.42 | Chestal | orange: that question is underspecified :-) |
| 21:09.49 | orange | uh-oh :-) |
| 21:09.56 | orange | uint8_t test; |
| 21:09.58 | orange | test=3; |
| 21:10.19 | orange | uh |
| 21:10.19 | Chestal | and with string of "foo" you want it to be "foo3"? |
| 21:10.23 | orange | right :-) |
| 21:10.31 | Chestal | in bzflag code? |
| 21:10.48 | orange | yes |
| 21:11.31 | Chestal | the most generif way to do it is to use a stringstream like ostringstream os; os << "hello" << test; string s=os.str(); |
| 21:11.41 | Chestal | bz also has Textutils::format or the like |
| 21:11.45 | orange | it's already a std::string :-( |
| 21:11.48 | Chestal | look at the heder in include/ |
| 21:11.57 | cosmos | ahh ok i see, time to test my new rings ctg[3~f |
| 21:12.05 | orange | I'd hoped to do this one myself, but I think I'm going to fail :-) |
| 21:12.35 | Chestal | cosmos: there was one imporant change you have to make when convertign old group files, I forgot what it was, hmm |
| 21:13.51 | Mirella | string.push_back( test ) |
| 21:14.13 | Chestal | Mirella: no you can only add strings or char* to strings |
| 21:14.39 | orange | std::ostringstream os; results in: |
| 21:14.43 | orange | aggregate `std::ostringstream os' has incomplete type and |
| 21:14.43 | orange | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:14.50 | Chestal | to convert numbers or actualyl any kind of objects nto an ascii representton, C++ has streams |
| 21:15.01 | Chestal | orange: #include <sstream> |
| 21:15.44 | orange | so I did this: |
| 21:15.55 | orange | std::ostringstream os; |
| 21:16.00 | orange | os << test; |
| 21:16.06 | orange | myorigstring += os; |
| 21:16.11 | orange | it didn't like that either |
| 21:16.56 | Chestal | orange: use os.str() to get the string from the stream |
| 21:17.02 | orange | aha |
| 21:17.29 | Chestal | alternatively, put the string into the stream, then just use .str(), not += |
| 21:18.34 | Chestal | this scheme is flexible, but a bit tedious for the simple stuff |
| 21:24.00 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: 03jujibo * 10bzflag/src/bzfs/AccessControlList.cxx: Fixed: ban time in merge. Now all seems ok |
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| 21:30.15 | orange | Chestal, everything I see says what you said should work, but it kept giving me a string with just a single space in it :-( |
| 21:30.19 | orange | so I used snprintf |
| 21:33.38 | Chestal | with a local buffer, than adding that buffer to the string? |
| 21:34.06 | orange | yes |
| 21:34.14 | Chestal | ah, the trap probably is that you need to cast test to int before using << |
| 21:34.32 | Chestal | otherwise it will assuem that you want the character represantation (as you usually do for a char) |
| 21:35.37 | orange | that did it, thanks |
| 21:35.47 | orange | ~Chestal++ |
| 21:37.23 | Chestal | snprintf will probably be faster, though :-) |
| 21:37.41 | orange | so that's valid? I can format with that, too |
| 21:38.17 | Chestal | of course, only problem with snprintf is, that it's not officially part of C++ |
| 21:38.49 | orange | would it be accepted into bzflag? |
| 21:39.29 | Chestal | yes, bz has lots of snprintfs |
| 21:39.41 | orange | cool, snprintf it is :-) |
| 21:40.06 | orange | thanks for your patience |
| 21:41.18 | Chestal | or std::string keyLabel = TextUtils::format("Ctrl-F%d", i); but it sounded like you really wanted to append, not build a new string |
| 21:41.29 | orange | had to append, yes |
| 21:42.37 | orange | so, who can I send this client patch to? |
| 21:42.58 | orange | it's very short, but Chestal and I worked hard on it ;-) |
| 21:43.27 | menotume | nbut that's just his opinion |
| 21:44.10 | Chestal | well, it depends. It's good to have a rough idea what happens when you use string operatons |
| 21:44.18 | menotume | yes |
| 21:45.00 | menotume | of course, 'cat'ing lots of sprintfs isn't good either |
| 21:45.16 | Chestal | that's even worse actually :-) |
| 21:45.28 | orange | how does one actually submit a patch, other than to get some developer to agree to look at it? |
| 21:45.43 | Chestal | orange: you can submit a patch via the sourceforge web interface |
| 21:45.53 | menotume | abusing string object buffering i/o pre-allocated space can be bad |
| 21:46.03 | menotume | lol |
| 21:46.10 | menotume | too lazy |
| 21:46.54 | *** join/#bzflag Sephiroth (~514fa3ae@webchat.bzflag.bz) |
| 21:47.34 | orange | chestal, it's there... will someone look at it? :-) |
| 21:47.49 | Chestal | sooner or later :-) |
| 21:48.11 | orange | does the format look OK to anyone who cares to look? |
| 21:50.10 | menotume | another screencap of 'oddness' ===> http://69.136.111.221/huntselect.png |
| 21:50.29 | Chestal | 404? |
| 21:50.33 | menotume | is minor, don't know how I did it other than typing a messgaes without hitting 'n' first |
| 21:50.39 | menotume | ooops |
| 21:50.48 | Chestal | oh, the evil typing-without-n |
| 21:50.49 | menotume | http://69.136.111.221/bzcaps/huntselect.png |
| 21:50.52 | menotume | sry |
| 21:50.55 | menotume | nya :) |
| 21:51.10 | menotume | just had a bunch of people selected for hunt, it lokks like |
| 21:51.19 | Chestal | I think I heard of that before |
| 21:56.24 | menotume | I've got a secret, I've got a secret ! |
| 21:56.30 | menotume | bzg played a match !!!!!!! |
| 21:56.36 | menotume | don't tell anyone |
| 21:58.20 | *** join/#bzflag blast007 (~blast007@24-196-92-143.jvl.wi.charter.com) |
| 21:58.22 | orchid | shush menotume |
| 21:58.35 | menotume | ohhh, did I type that here? oooops |
| 22:02.50 | cosmos | pou[3~[3~ |
| 22:03.03 | cosmos | put a server up, 15 mins later i g4et someone shouting nazi obscenities |
| 22:03.06 | cosmos | sheesh |
| 22:03.17 | *** join/#bzflag wizart (~wizart@dsl-084-058-027-070.arcor-ip.net) |
| 22:06.03 | Pimpinella | cosmos: do they have some affinity to you? |
| 22:06.20 | cosmos | i think they just search for all the servers they are ot banned at |
| 22:06.27 | Pimpinella | we also have them, but only on rare occasions |
| 22:06.34 | cosmos | speaking os of servers, can you deregister me from viper |
| 22:06.41 | cosmos | i cant login with the global one now |
| 22:06.50 | Pimpinella | sure |
| 22:06.55 | Tupone | cosmos, identify and then deregister |
| 22:07.14 | cosmos | i cant |
| 22:07.17 | cosmos | forgot my pass |
| 22:07.24 | Tupone | heh |
| 22:08.09 | Pimpinella | cosmos: done |
| 22:08.11 | cosmos | i was prob admin at one point and used a password fi different than normal |
| 22:08.16 | cosmos | guaranteed to be forgotten |
| 22:09.28 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: 03atupone * 10bzflag/src/bzfs/CmdLineOptions.cxx: -mp specifiying team size should be read even without a -mp for maxPlayers |
| 22:09.53 | cosmos | that worked thanks pimpi |
| 22:17.13 | *** join/#bzflag triclops (~triclops@c211-31-49-112.rivrw7.nsw.optusnet.com.au) |
| 22:20.23 | *** join/#bzflag RP1 (~garrett@c-24-15-87-171.client.comcast.net) |
| 22:20.37 | RP1 | hi |
| 22:21.14 | *** part/#bzflag RP1 (~garrett@c-24-15-87-171.client.comcast.net) |
| 22:21.30 | trepan | bye |
| 22:33.05 | *** join/#bzflag SilverFox (user@68-116-47-254.or.charter.com) |
| 22:34.02 | *** join/#bzflag javaJake (~javaJake@c-24-60-92-231.ne.client2.attbi.com) |
| 22:34.23 | javaJake | ~seen brad2901 |
| 22:34.25 | ibot | brad2901 <brad2901@ACCBA1BE.ipt.aol.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #bzleague, 22h 45m 31s ago, saying: 'ok'. |
| 22:35.08 | javaJake | ~seen redsoxfan90 |
| 22:35.12 | ibot | redsoxfan90 <Redsoxfan9@h000c6e3d2914.ne.client2.attbi.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #bzflag, 7d 53m 44s ago, saying: 'hey tim'. |
| 22:35.17 | javaJake | *sigh* |
| 22:35.20 | javaJake | bye all! |
| 22:35.22 | *** part/#bzflag javaJake (~javaJake@c-24-60-92-231.ne.client2.attbi.com) |
| 22:36.32 | SilverFox | is redsoxfan90 the same rsf that was cheating and abusing privs on cosmos's server a while ago? |
| 22:36.50 | Birdie | yes |
| 22:37.22 | *** join/#bzflag Tupone (~Tupone@host-84-222-136-41.cust-adsl.tiscali.it) |
| 22:37.42 | SilverFox | interesting... |
| 22:37.57 | Birdie | heard something else about it lately? |
| 22:38.02 | Birdie | (something bad) |
| 22:38.10 | Birdie | about him* |
| 22:38.21 | SilverFox | no, just heard people looking for him, and I thought he was banished to siberia or something... |
| 22:38.37 | Birdie | well he was masterbanned:) thats almoust the same |
| 22:38.47 | *** join/#bzflag Tupone (~Tupone@host-84-222-136-41.cust-adsl.tiscali.it) |
| 22:39.22 | *** join/#bzflag Fuddl (~fuddl@tittchen.saustall.busn.org) |
| 22:42.07 | JeffM2501 | I do wonder why some of the kiddies look for him, it's not like he has anything to offer. |
| 22:42.24 | SilverFox | that's pretty much what I was wondering... |
| 22:43.19 | JeffM2501 | what ever floats there boats tho |
| 22:45.19 | Birdie | btw 90 is his year of birth |
| 22:45.21 | *** join/#bzflag Fuddl (~fuddl@tittchen.saustall.busn.org) |
| 22:45.36 | Birdie | at least i heard that |
| 22:45.48 | JeffM2501 | yeah he says he's 19, like I'd belive that |
| 22:46.40 | *** join/#bzflag Fuddl (~fuddl@tittchen.saustall.busn.org) |
| 22:47.10 | Birdie | if its true, in his gu team, there is a guy of 56(propably true like he talks) and he is talking with audio over the internet to him |
| 22:47.18 | Birdie | and he says he is at least 14(voice) |
| 22:47.37 | JeffM2501 | I figured 12-15 |
| 22:47.42 | JeffM2501 | he acts about that age |
| 22:47.56 | Birdie | that 90 is propably the year of birth |
| 22:47.58 | Birdie | so 15 |
| 22:48.09 | Birdie | you can know much with thinking logic;) |
| 22:48.10 | JeffM2501 | probably hasn't hit his bday yet, so 14 |
| 23:04.44 | *** join/#bzflag USAPATRIOT (~1882f3cd@webchat.bzflag.bz) |
| 23:07.39 | *** join/#bzflag USAPAT (~1882f3cd@webchat.bzflag.bz) |
| 23:08.52 | *** join/#bzflag USAPAT (~1882f3cd@webchat.bzflag.bz) |
| 23:09.19 | Pimpinella | could somebody remove usapat from here? |
| 23:12.14 | SilverFox | Pimpinella, what's his story? |
| 23:12.44 | Tupone | I saw in gamesunited :( |
| 23:17.00 | SilverFox | going on about hating arabs or some nonsense. |
| 23:17.01 | *** join/#bzflag bz6552 (~1882f3cd@webchat.bzflag.bz) |
| 23:19.03 | [dmp] | menotume: ping? |
| 23:19.20 | cosmos | hrm |
| 23:19.21 | menotume | pongo |
| 23:19.30 | [dmp] | menotume: wizard is asking for a match |
| 23:19.37 | menotume | let's do it |
| 23:19.45 | cosmos | usa patriot g[3~came by my new server today |
| 23:19.51 | cosmos | hes a regular hoot |
| 23:20.07 | [dmp] | damn he left |
| 23:20.15 | *** mode/#bzflag [+b *!1882f3cd@webchat.bzflag.bz] by purple_cow |
| 23:20.37 | SilverFox | purple_cow, won't that ban everyone from that java thing? |
| 23:20.40 | Nidhoggr | nope |
| 23:20.44 | SilverFox | not that t here is anything wrong with that... ;) |
| 23:20.45 | cosmos | whats with gu? is he from ehtere? |
| 23:20.46 | Nidhoggr | the first part is the IP in hex. |
| 23:20.51 | SilverFox | oh, clever. |
| 23:21.34 | [dmp] | menotume: found him again :) |
| 23:21.35 | SilverFox | 8 characters for hex? |
| 23:21.45 | SilverFox | that's right, nm |
| 23:21.48 | menotume | hepcat ? |
| 23:22.02 | [dmp] | menotume: yep - he is getting septh |
| 23:22.23 | menotume | where to? is dub the only match server still ? |
| 23:22.40 | Birdie | isnt ducati 59999 up? |
| 23:22.56 | menotume | hmmm - it wasn't earlier , maybe now |
| 23:23.04 | [dmp] | menotume: dub 59998 |
| 23:23.10 | menotume | k |
| 23:23.19 | cosmos | whos a gu.de admin here |
| 23:23.28 | Birdie | i am |
| 23:23.37 | SilverFox | Birdie, hepcat has a ducati server. ;) |
| 23:23.46 | cosmos | birdie can you dereg me ? |
| 23:23.53 | cosmos | i forgot my login and cant play |
| 23:23.56 | SilverFox | hepcat.tybox.net:59156 |
| 23:24.13 | Birdie | i just pm's the server owner to ask for those privs because so much people ask for it...but its not a admin priv.. |
| 23:24.24 | Birdie | i'm sorry |
| 23:24.57 | cosmos | ahh heh |
| 23:25.02 | Birdie | i'll check for now, but i doubt i can allready |
| 23:25.08 | cosmos | well if you can get them to do it :) |
| 23:25.20 | cosmos | or who i should ask/how |
| 23:25.24 | Birdie | i'll try to influence him;) |
| 23:25.30 | Birdie | gsl is the only one that can do it |
| 23:25.35 | Birdie | but you wont find him anywhere |
| 23:25.42 | Birdie | only to reach with forum or pm's |
| 23:31.46 | cosmos | ok so i just used a different nick heh |
| 23:31.55 | Birdie | had to ban that patriot guy on gu to.. |
| 23:31.55 | *** join/#bzflag blu (~18076849@webchat.bzflag.bz) |
| 23:32.17 | cosmos | ? |
| 23:32.22 | blu | hi , i have a quick question regarding joystick use, I can move around using joystick , just not shoot |
| 23:32.37 | blu | is there a way to asign? |
| 23:32.54 | cosmos | birdie where was patriot? i didnt see him |
| 23:33.04 | Birdie | maybe you just left |
| 23:33.09 | Birdie | talking in caps |
| 23:33.16 | Birdie | about fight for rights etc |
| 23:33.29 | cosmos | what rights |
| 23:33.43 | Birdie | USAPATRIOT arabs are a filthy subhuman race made by satan to destroy good christians |
| 23:33.45 | cosmos | he was talking about exterimating all arabs on hepcat earlier |
| 23:33.46 | Birdie | like this |
| 23:33.53 | Birdie | yea about that to |
| 23:34.06 | brlcad | ~seen USAPATRIOT |
| 23:34.08 | ibot | i haven't seen 'usapatriot', brlcad |
| 23:34.17 | Birdie | luckers, he didnt came here:) |
| 23:34.26 | brlcad | I got the same message |
| 23:34.28 | cosmos | ~seen USAP{AT[3~ |
| 23:34.29 | ibot | i haven't seen 'usap{at[3~', cosmos |
| 23:34.33 | cosmos | try USAPAT |
| 23:34.43 | brlcad | was it someone that came in the channel? |
| 23:34.45 | cosmos | i think thats what he irced with |
| 23:34.55 | brlcad | i.e. bz-specific, or did they just hit the network? |
| 23:35.26 | brlcad | 18:30 -!- USAPATRIOT [~aaronhelt@c-24-130-243-205.we.client2.attbi.com] |
| 23:35.26 | brlcad | 18:30 -!- was : Aaron Helton |
| 23:35.34 | cosmos | they have been on game servers spamming anti arab stuff |
| 23:36.09 | *** mode/#bzflag [+b *!*@c-24-130-243-205.we.client2.attbi.com] by brlcad |
| 23:36.43 | corndawg | whoa man |
| 23:36.46 | cosmos | looks like it was already there |
| 23:36.51 | corndawg | lol that was way too close to my ip lol |
| 23:36.58 | cosmos | or does the server not record who banned |
| 23:37.19 | cosmos | corn where are you |
| 23:37.24 | cosmos | he may be local |
| 23:37.37 | Birdie | maybe you know him |
| 23:37.37 | Birdie | :) |
| 23:39.26 | cosmos | "Aaron Helton" |
| 23:39.35 | Birdie | from where? |
| 23:39.56 | cosmos | dunno what was the ip |
| 23:40.00 | cosmos | can look it up |
| 23:40.12 | Birdie | 24.130.243.205 |
| 23:40.17 | Birdie | at least on gu |
| 23:40.21 | blu | ok got it thanks alot for the help |
| 23:40.34 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: 03brlcad * 10admin/master-bans.txt: Spamming inappropriate messages (USAPATRIOT) |
| 23:40.44 | *** join/#bzflag Noodle-sensei (~tuckerm@bc186118.bendcable.com) |
| 23:40.58 | cosmos | hahaha |
| 23:41.03 | cosmos | congrats to the PATRIOT |
| 23:41.41 | brlcad | spamming the wrong guy for attention |
| 23:42.01 | cosmos | comcat[3~ |
| 23:42.02 | cosmos | comcast |
| 23:42.03 | Birdie | masterbans are never with ranges i heard? |
| 23:42.04 | cosmos | nj |
| 23:42.19 | brlcad | Birdie: no, and with good reason |
| 23:42.31 | brlcad | they could be, but are not on purpose |
| 23:42.33 | cosmos | how can we view the mqaster ban list |
| 23:42.46 | Birdie | so for example, if he has a rooter, he restarts it, new ip, and free to come again:( |
| 23:42.55 | brlcad | cosmos: it's in cvs and on-line |
| 23:43.44 | brlcad | http://bzflag.org/master-bans.txt |
| 23:43.49 | Birdie | City: Mt Laurel |
| 23:43.54 | Birdie | does this excist? |
| 23:44.04 | Birdie | checked the ip and it gave this city.. |
| 23:44.29 | brlcad | IPs don't give cities |
| 23:44.40 | cosmos | banner: Jeff Myers |
| 23:44.40 | cosmos | reason: admin abbuse, cursing, and being a bastard |
| 23:44.40 | cosmos | 209.216.156.3 |
| 23:44.40 | cosmos | end: 0 |
| 23:44.43 | cosmos | hahaha |
| 23:44.49 | Birdie | redsox lol? |
| 23:45.18 | cosmos | i think thats the corp hq of the cable company |
| 23:45.28 | cosmos | his ip range is prob deleagate elsewhere in the us |
| 23:47.13 | brlcad | can one of the server operators verify his IP from a bzfs log? |
| 23:47.36 | cosmos | i dont see spoogebobh in the master list |
| 23:48.13 | cosmos | he came in as 24.130.243.167 in my test server earlier |
| 23:48.19 | cosmos | patriot that is |
| 23:48.37 | Birdie | 24.130.243.205 on gu, last number changed |
| 23:49.24 | cosmos | dynamic cable probably |
| 23:50.38 | *** join/#bzflag bz4981 (~514d5d3e@webchat.bzflag.bz) |
| 23:50.52 | bz4981 | hi all |
| 23:51.27 | cosmos | bye heh |
| 23:52.11 | cosmos | hell just ban all cable modem users in the master ban |
| 23:52.14 | cosmos | :) |
| 23:52.27 | Birdie | i think some would be mad than;) |
| 23:56.37 | Birdie | meh cosmos ban him on #hepcat |
| 23:57.45 | JeffM2501 | well he was |
| 23:57.59 | cosmos | little fucking bitch |
| 23:58.11 | JeffM2501 | please watch your language |
| 23:58.17 | cosmos | sorry i just got flooded |
| 23:58.24 | JeffM2501 | by who? |
| 23:58.28 | cosmos | someone ban that usapatriot |
| 23:58.36 | cosmos | *USAPATRIOT* [flood detected] |
