| 00:06.59 | wegstar | nope... |
| 00:07.19 | wegstar | they have 30,000 or so lag... and then drops out |
| 00:07.45 | JeffM2501 | sounds like it's not sending packets back |
| 00:07.47 | wegstar | ridiculous numbers :( |
| 00:07.50 | wegstar | yeah... |
| 00:07.57 | JeffM2501 | is it port blocked? |
| 00:07.58 | wegstar | 100% loss |
| 00:08.02 | wegstar | nope |
| 00:08.16 | JeffM2501 | something is preventing the packets from geting in |
| 00:10.20 | wegstar | easy solution: compile my own copy of bzadmin.. worked for most of my problems with bzfs ... :) |
| 00:10.56 | wegstar | for some reason or other... |
| 00:11.08 | JeffM2501 | maybe your system is using a difernt network lib version or something |
| 00:11.35 | wegstar | who knows.. |
| 00:22.04 | wegstar | darn.. still the same |
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| 02:24.29 | Legoguy | alright, i know there's redradar, greenradar, blueradar, and purpleradar... but what about rouge and rabbit? rougeradar doesn't seem to work and i haven't tried rabbit |
| 02:25.18 | trepan | rogueradar ? |
| 02:25.38 | trepan | rouge is more of a red kinda thing |
| 02:25.57 | menotume | do you mean you can' tell which one is you no the radar if you are rouge ? |
| 02:26.08 | menotume | I just discovered that myself |
| 02:26.12 | trepan | and there is no rabbitradar, iirc |
| 02:26.35 | trepan | ~dict rouge |
| 02:26.46 | menotume | lol |
| 02:35.10 | orange | ~dict rogue |
| 02:35.42 | orange | tough word |
| 02:40.25 | orange | impossible word? |
| 02:45.38 | JeffM2501 | guu dict rogue |
| 02:45.59 | JeffM2501 | dict servers must be very packed |
| 02:48.41 | blast007 | http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=rogue |
| 02:49.55 | trepan | "Vicious and solitary", i like that one |
| 02:49.55 | JeffM2501 | oooo a scamp |
| 02:50.40 | trepan | well look at that... he scampered away |
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| 03:19.34 | Legoguy | an |
| 03:19.35 | Legoguy | ah* |
| 03:19.38 | Legoguy | rogue |
| 03:19.41 | Legoguy | nor rouge |
| 03:19.44 | Legoguy | not* |
| 03:19.45 | Legoguy | heh |
| 03:22.28 | sgk284 | Legoguy, you speaking english? |
| 03:22.30 | sgk284 | ;) |
| 03:22.34 | sgk284 | btw nice maps |
| 03:22.42 | Legoguy | thanks |
| 03:22.56 | Legoguy | yes, i try to speak english, even though it's my native language ;) |
| 03:23.20 | sgk284 | heh its okay... i have to meet someone who speaks it fluently ;) |
| 03:23.27 | sgk284 | s/have/have yet |
| 03:23.53 | Legoguy | almost everything can be expressed with some sort of programming language or another, though.. |
| 03:24.31 | sgk284 | darn right |
| 03:24.41 | Legoguy | my preferred language is PHP. |
| 03:24.49 | Legoguy | maybe Python. Perl even. |
| 03:24.55 | Legoguy | all the Ps. |
| 03:25.00 | Legoguy | Pascal |
| 03:25.24 | sgk284 | i was handed some code with german comments..... amazingly i just ignored the comments and could tell exactly what the guy was doing :) programming languages rock! |
| 03:25.59 | Legoguy | yep, it's the universal language of sorts, that computers _and_ people can understand! (most of the time) |
| 03:26.20 | sgk284 | python perl, php , c++ and java are my favorites:) |
| 03:26.32 | sgk284 | the right tool for the right job kinda thing |
| 03:26.35 | Legoguy | haven't gotten into C++ or java yet |
| 03:26.39 | Legoguy | yeah |
| 03:27.04 | Legoguy | never needed to make something of the kind that required either of the two :) |
| 03:27.23 | sgk284 | heh |
| 03:27.44 | Legoguy | i mean the syntax of java looks pretty darn easy to me |
| 03:28.33 | Legoguy | C/C++ are different tho |
| 03:29.00 | Legoguy | ive used NCQ (Not Quite C) to program my Mindstorms robot before but never got into "Real" C |
| 03:29.06 | sgk284 | c++ and java are *very* similar |
| 03:29.29 | sgk284 | java is more or less all the good things about c++ with a lot of fun bonuses thrown in:) |
| 03:29.52 | sgk284 | if you know perl and php, both java and c++ should be no problem at all |
| 03:29.56 | Legoguy | yeah, one of them that anyone who wants to use the program needs the JRE |
| 03:30.27 | sgk284 | eh... gcj (gnu compiler for java) works pretty well on *nix if you want native code :) |
| 03:30.37 | sgk284 | the jre really is pretty nice now a days |
| 03:31.16 | sgk284 | 5.0 is extremely fast... i've actually yet to see it not on par with c++'s speed |
| 03:31.22 | Legoguy | meh. i'm going to college for IT so i'll be learning both there. Knowing PHP, Perl, Python, Pascal, and shell scripting is definitley to my advantage thogugh. |
| 03:31.25 | Legoguy | though* |
| 03:31.36 | sgk284 | and with hotspot... it does dynamic optimizations... something you can't do with antive code |
| 03:31.48 | sgk284 | yea you wont have a problem |
| 03:32.36 | Legoguy | lucky me, the IT course has a lot of unix/linux stuff in it :D |
| 03:33.40 | Legoguy | i know my school's sysadmins couldn't debug a linux kernel problem if their life depended on it |
| 03:33.48 | sgk284 | heh |
| 03:33.50 | Legoguy | high school, not college.. heh |
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| 03:34.54 | Legoguy | just think - once I learn C++ at college in a few years, i'll be able to actually contribute _patches_ to bzflag! |
| 03:35.02 | Legoguy | :P |
| 03:35.03 | sgk284 | heh |
| 03:35.43 | brlcad | scary |
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| 03:35.47 | Legoguy | :P |
| 03:36.04 | Legoguy | I knew someone was going to say something to that effect :P |
| 03:36.18 | brlcad | and I was the pawn |
| 03:36.32 | Legoguy | ~brlcad++ |
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| 03:49.12 | amathis | Legoguy: why not start learning now? |
| 03:49.23 | amathis | I am sure brlcad would LOVE to teach you. |
| 03:49.48 | amathis | I know he has plenty of time for tutoring ^_^ |
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| 03:51.17 | shorty114 | wow sticky |
| 03:52.10 | sgk284 | Legoguy, ever use ruby? |
| 03:52.18 | Legoguy | nope |
| 03:52.27 | sgk284 | its a creative little language... never used it extensively but its nice |
| 03:52.36 | sgk284 | *everything* is an object |
| 03:52.39 | sgk284 | including numbers... |
| 03:52.48 | sgk284 | its got some interesting constructs |
| 03:52.52 | Legoguy | heh |
| 03:52.54 | brlcad | so smalltalkish of them |
| 03:53.12 | sgk284 | but its got wierd things too like 5.+(8) is a valid method |
| 03:53.19 | sgk284 | as is 5 + 8 |
| 03:53.43 | Legoguy | 5.+(8) will also work on a TI calc.. |
| 03:53.53 | sgk284 | and "myVar = if(somethingIsTrue): 5 else: 6;" |
| 03:53.58 | brlcad | works in c too |
| 03:54.11 | sgk284 | but... its differnet lol |
| 03:54.16 | sgk284 | in ruby your calling a method |
| 03:54.20 | sgk284 | the method name being + |
| 03:54.27 | brlcad | same end result |
| 03:54.35 | Legoguy | it's the same as saying 5.0 + ( 8 ) |
| 03:54.45 | sgk284 | heh yea but you can take it much further the just +, it was an example:) |
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| 03:55.21 | Legoguy | so the plus sign is a method? i thought it was always that way |
| 03:55.42 | Legoguy | not a method, but an operarot, but in this case they are equivalent |
| 03:55.42 | sgk284 | i heard good things abotu smalltalk... |
| 03:55.47 | sgk284 | jsut doesnt seem like my thing though |
| 03:56.03 | Legoguy | operator, there goes my english again |
| 03:56.21 | Legoguy | hah. ever heard of brainfuck... strange language that is. |
| 03:57.00 | sgk284 | yea, i like it, wish it had a different name |
| 03:57.01 | `ls` | perhaps sllamatlk would be more to your liking? |
| 03:57.06 | sgk284 | it has good academic value |
| 03:57.21 | Legoguy | haha `ls` |
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| 03:59.08 | `ls` | ~scramble smalltalk and java are examples of object oriented programming languages |
| 03:59.09 | sgk284 | heh one of my classes recently had an assignment ... choose one out of like 5 languages and sort stdin and send it back out to stdout (the object of the assignment was to familiarize more people with alternaitve languages... apparently most CS majors are very narrow minded C++ folk) |
| 03:59.17 | sgk284 | so of course i chose perl... |
| 03:59.23 | sgk284 | print sort <> ; |
| 04:01.04 | sgk284 | worth like 15% of our final grade and i got an A+ :) |
| 04:01.15 | sgk284 | but i digress... |
| 04:02.22 | sgk284 | kids were writing like a 100 lines of code... they must have been pulling code out of their butts... |
| 04:03.49 | sgk284 | ~scramble sgk284 |
| 04:03.53 | Pizbit | rofl |
| 04:04.02 | Pizbit | sgk284:Could you have done it in python? |
| 04:04.12 | sgk284 | no :( |
| 04:04.20 | sgk284 | but can python do it in less characters? |
| 04:04.38 | Pizbit | Nah |
| 04:04.46 | sgk284 | didnt think so:) |
| 04:04.54 | Pizbit | Not including getting stdin etc, but there is the list.sort() :) |
| 04:04.58 | sgk284 | true |
| 04:05.03 | sgk284 | ~perl++ |
| 04:05.08 | sgk284 | :) |
| 04:05.10 | Pizbit | ~perl-- |
| 04:05.13 | sgk284 | heh |
| 04:05.15 | Pizbit | For being but ugly:) |
| 04:05.40 | sgk284 | doesnt have to be:) |
| 04:06.01 | Pizbit | *grin* |
| 04:06.15 | sgk284 | however i do really like the fact the python damn near forces clean looking code as part of its syntax |
| 04:06.38 | sgk284 | lol |
| 04:07.01 | sgk284 | well i'm sure from a distance it will still look nice:) with all those enforced tabs and line breaks... |
| 04:07.30 | Pizbit | Erm two secs... |
| 04:07.33 | sgk284 | or rather indentations, not necessarily tabs... |
| 04:08.17 | Pizbit | http://www.pastebin.com/241949 |
| 04:08.45 | Pizbit | Keep in mind my primary desire was to make it work:) |
| 04:09.50 | shorty114 | ~perl-- |
| 04:09.55 | Pizbit | Hahaha |
| 04:10.56 | Legoguy | Pizbit: <?php ?> for python!? |
| 04:10.57 | Pizbit | sgk284: See if you can spot the bug, a clue, it can only happen once a month. |
| 04:11.18 | Pizbit | Legoguy: Not part of the actual code, I just use that pastebin bceuase I cbf remembering another |
| 04:11.54 | Legoguy | well there shouldn't be a space in the shebang.. |
| 04:12.19 | Pizbit | Really? Works either way |
| 04:12.35 | Legoguy | but that's more of a traditional thing |
| 04:12.35 | Legoguy | heh |
| 04:13.54 | sgk284 | Pizbit, i give up :) |
| 04:13.58 | Pizbit | It's actually where I calculate the length of the show since I'm finding seconds in a day, now usually shows that span from before to after mdinight are d and d+1(eg 20,21), but at the end of the month it's like 31,1 |
| 04:14.11 | Pizbit | So something weird will happen there for sure:) |
| 04:14.29 | sgk284 | heh |
| 04:15.31 | sgk284 | if your just is there a reason you implemented it like that? |
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| 04:16.17 | sgk284 | oops |
| 04:16.22 | sgk284 | two things merged there |
| 04:16.28 | Pizbit | 1) It was the first way I thought up 2) I first researched a little and didn't find a page explaining some in built python module to calculate the length of time between two YYYYMMDDHHMMSS time stamps. |
| 04:16.32 | sgk284 | heh start reading from the first is |
| 04:16.35 | shorty114 | wow none of the pastebin.com's pastes are PHP |
| 04:16.46 | Pizbit | sgk284: Hehe, I figured. |
| 04:16.58 | Pizbit | sgk284: Don't, it owns. |
| 04:17.02 | sgk284 | heh |
| 04:18.22 | Pizbit | sgk284: Of course I can't exactly just expand to get the number of second from the month part because months are of uniform length:D Meh, good enough for me right now, just a hack job to work with GShowTV |
| 04:18.49 | Pizbit | er, months are not of* |
| 04:20.12 | sgk284 | so any smalltalk users in here? |
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| 04:22.11 | sgk284 | ugh nevermind... i'm already turned off by smalltalk :) |
| 04:22.45 | Pizbit | Heh |
| 04:22.48 | Pizbit | What's smalltalk? |
| 04:23.05 | sgk284 | from what i see assignment is done throguh := and statements end with a period ... |
| 04:23.19 | Pizbit | o_O? |
| 04:23.37 | sgk284 | the := reminds me too much of pascal which i would like to enver touch again and the period is a horrible delimiter :) |
| 04:23.43 | Pizbit | Muahaha |
| 04:23.46 | sgk284 | Pizbit, its just another language |
| 04:23.59 | Pizbit | Made this awesome maze program:) |
| 04:24.00 | sgk284 | ugh... i wish i didnt |
| 04:24.09 | sgk284 | :) |
| 04:24.21 | Pizbit | Then I went and used the same code so you could create your maze in a similar way to playing it:) |
| 04:24.57 | blast007 | := reminds me of Oracle PL/SQL :) |
| 04:26.44 | Pizbit | Using the . to end the line sounds horrid though. |
| 04:26.54 | sgk284 | yea... |
| 04:27.17 | Pizbit | I can see the login in it though. |
| 04:27.25 | Pizbit | Er, logic* |
| 04:27.52 | sgk284 | i cant |
| 04:27.53 | sgk284 | :) |
| 04:28.09 | sgk284 | nothing like seeing socket.getHostname(). |
| 04:28.16 | sgk284 | i'd be like huh? |
| 04:28.21 | sgk284 | :) |
| 04:29.09 | sgk284 | especially if it was followed by something another line of code... |
| 04:29.24 | sgk284 | but then again i'm bashing a language that i'm completely ignorant of so i'll stop:) |
| 04:29.33 | sgk284 | who knows... it might work |
| 04:29.53 | Pizbit | sgk284: Hrm, also makes you wonder what's missing. |
| 04:30.14 | Pizbit | sgk284: But the logic is that since the fullstop is used to end sentences, why not use it to end lines of code? |
| 04:30.20 | Pizbit | Or so I'm guessing. |
| 04:30.41 | sgk284 | yea... i think smalltalk was designed to be read as one would speak it... thus the name |
| 04:30.44 | sgk284 | but i may be wrong:) |
| 04:31.16 | sgk284 | ~smalltalk |
| 04:31.17 | ibot | i guess smalltalk is perhaps the first language to combine OOP concepts with a graphical user interface. it contains a very good model for an OOP class browser; you use it to edit smalltalk programs. It's what Java wants to be when it grows up. Ask me about squeak and about visualworks. |
| 04:31.39 | sgk284 | ~squeak |
| 04:31.40 | ibot | rumour has it, squeak is at http://www.squeak.org |
| 04:31.43 | shorty114 | ~visualworks |
| 04:31.44 | ibot | A rich interactive programming environment for theSmalltalk-80 language. URL: http://www.objectshare.com |
| 04:31.53 | sgk284 | heh squeak scares me... |
| 04:32.07 | sgk284 | http://www.squeakland.org/ |
| 04:32.28 | sgk284 | obviously made by hippies... |
| 04:32.32 | sgk284 | ;) |
| 04:32.43 | Pizbit | hehehe |
| 04:34.30 | sgk284 | perl probably has something in cpan to make that real easy |
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| 04:35.16 | Pizbit | I'm using kemnc15 to remove the ads from the tv shows I record but I be damned if I can figure out how to just rmeove the ads and wind up with one file of the actual program:) |
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| 04:38.31 | sgk284 | Pizbit, mencoder is probably your ticket |
| 04:38.49 | sgk284 | i know you can combine avi files... one would think that might extend to divx :) |
| 04:39.04 | Pizbit | Yep, did another google and trying something now |
| 04:39.10 | sgk284 | or convert the divx to avi first:) |
| 04:39.14 | sgk284 | oh okay, good luck |
| 04:39.20 | sgk284 | i'm going to go get some bz in |
| 04:39.35 | Pizbit | Sweet! Sorted |
| 04:39.55 | purple_cow | ...convert divx to avi? |
| 04:40.03 | Pizbit | Nah, join the files together |
| 04:40.13 | Pizbit | Yeah, avi is divx heh |
| 04:40.29 | Pizbit | Nice, 374MB -> 201MB |
| 04:40.44 | jpa_ | ~weather EFTTU |
| 04:40.46 | jpa_ | ~weather EFTU |
| 04:40.48 | purple_cow | avi is just a container |
| 04:40.50 | sgk284 | purple_cow, aren't the official avi and divs formats different? |
| 04:40.53 | purple_cow | you can put anything inside it |
| 04:40.55 | purple_cow | divx is a codec |
| 04:40.56 | Pizbit | purple_cow: Yeah, etc and all that |
| 04:41.03 | Legoguy | ~weather KUGN |
| 04:41.05 | sgk284 | i am no media buff |
| 04:41.56 | sgk284 | so... avi == divx ? |
| 04:42.01 | Legoguy | no |
| 04:42.03 | Pizbit | Nah |
| 04:42.07 | Legoguy | avi != divx |
| 04:42.09 | sgk284 | heh |
| 04:42.10 | Pizbit | sgk284: Got linux?:) |
| 04:42.13 | sgk284 | yes |
| 04:42.14 | sgk284 | :) |
| 04:42.25 | Pizbit | sgk284: run 'file' on all your video files |
| 04:42.31 | sgk284 | i dont do much with videos :) |
| 04:42.33 | sgk284 | k |
| 04:42.36 | purple_cow | avi can contain divx |
| 04:42.43 | sgk284 | avi is a container... |
| 04:42.48 | sgk284 | ? |
| 04:42.57 | sgk284 | ~avi |
| 04:42.58 | ibot | i heard avi is see xanim, or add 'deb http://master.debian.org/~kabi/ woody main' for avifile-player for woody |
| 04:43.11 | purple_cow | divx is just a method of compressing video. it can be contained in avi, ogm, matroska, etc |
| 04:43.53 | sgk284 | oh okay... so its an algorithm? |
| 04:44.56 | sgk284 | :) |
| 04:46.13 | sgk284 | nevermind... wikipedia enlightened me |
| 04:46.24 | sgk284 | ~fishslap sgk284 |
| 04:46.26 | ibot | ACTION slaps sgk284 up side the head with a wet fish. |
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| 05:00.13 | Legoguy | sigh. just had a rather strange random lockup, where all shells just kind of stopped responding. i must now claim that my most favorite kernel is 2.6.10-nitro4. pretty darn stable for being experimental in nature. |
| 05:00.36 | Legoguy | everything else newer has had some kind of problem or another |
| 05:01.27 | Tegan | what distro Legoguy? |
| 05:01.36 | Legoguy | gentoo |
| 05:01.57 | Legoguy | haven't tried gentoo-sources 2.6.10-r7 though |
| 05:02.08 | Legoguy | i'm betting they're pretty stable. |
| 05:02.13 | Legoguy | but not as fast as this one. |
| 05:02.31 | Legoguy | Linux legobase 2.6.10-nitro4 #4 SMP Mon Jan 17 23:17:06 CST 2005 i686 Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.20GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux |
| 05:02.33 | Aribeth | im running 2.6.10-r6 with no problems on sparc |
| 05:03.29 | Legoguy | wait a second... the one that just went funky on me _is_ gentoo-r7 |
| 05:03.31 | Aribeth | 4 x 450mhz cpu's |
| 05:03.32 | Legoguy | ill be darned |
| 05:05.02 | Legoguy | alright, well, night folks. |
| 05:05.17 | Legoguy | sleepy time for me. |
| 05:05.23 | Legoguy | Mon Feb 14 23:05:23 CST 2005 |
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| 05:55.29 | jpa_ | morning |
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| 06:02.53 | sgk284 | morning jpa_!!!!!!!!!!!11 |
| 06:03.19 | jpa_ | helllo sgk11!!!!11 |
| 06:05.21 | sgk284 | heh |
| 06:05.28 | sgk284 | crazy brits... |
| 06:05.31 | sgk284 | ;) |
| 06:05.37 | sgk284 | wait your from britain right? |
| 06:05.42 | jpa_ | brits? i'm not a brit :) |
| 06:05.46 | sgk284 | lol |
| 06:05.47 | sgk284 | oop |
| 06:05.48 | sgk284 | s |
| 06:05.51 | jpa_ | finn :P |
| 06:05.57 | sgk284 | ahh thats right... |
| 06:05.58 | sgk284 | same thing |
| 06:06.01 | sgk284 | ;) |
| 06:06.06 | jpa_ | it is not :9 |
| 06:06.13 | jpa_ | ~bzfrag sgk284 |
| 06:06.16 | ibot | ACTION kills sgk284 with a shot from his BZTank |
| 06:06.19 | sgk284 | hehe |
| 06:07.19 | jpa_ | ibot sgk284 is <reply> dunno what he is, but he is bad at geography |
| 06:07.20 | ibot | ...but sgk284 is already something else... |
| 06:07.25 | jpa_ | ibot sgk284 |
| 06:07.26 | ibot | extra, extra, read all about it, sgk284 is an admin at Secretplace. |
| 06:07.32 | jpa_ | oh |
| 06:08.59 | sgk284 | heh |
| 06:09.03 | sgk284 | as you should ;) |
| 06:09.05 | orchid | can someone type an umlaut or some utf8 characters? |
| 06:10.23 | wegstar | isn't jpa_ from Canada? |
| 06:10.39 | sgk284 | "an umlaut or some utf8 characters?" |
| 06:10.41 | sgk284 | i win |
| 06:11.04 | jpa_ | wegstar: no |
| 06:11.08 | jpa_ | wegstar: not afaik |
| 06:11.14 | wegstar | oh... |
| 06:11.16 | jpa_ | orchid: öäöåöääåöäåöäåöäåöä |
| 06:11.26 | sgk284 | jpa is a finnish secret agent... |
| 06:11.40 | sgk284 | if you saw him in canada he didn't exist... otherwise he'll have to kill you |
| 06:11.51 | orchid | jpa_: thanks |
| 06:12.18 | jpa_ | orchid: ääkköset on ällöttäviä, eikö? |
| 06:12.41 | sgk284 | ددد |
| 06:13.20 | orchid | hmm, sgk284 I see 3 0's |
| 06:13.30 | orchid | paste the output of echo -e "'\303\204\304\211\320\257'" |
| 06:13.57 | orchid | should be an umlaut a c with a circumflex and a russian R |
| 06:13.57 | sgk284 | 'ÄĉЯ' |
| 06:14.01 | jpa_ | i see three (/) :s and three upside-down _ between them |
| 06:14.34 | sgk284 | orchid, that okay? |
| 06:14.34 | jpa_ | 'ÄĉЯ' |
| 06:14.43 | orchid | sgk284: nope :( |
| 06:14.45 | jpa_ | same as i get.. |
| 06:14.47 | orchid | I dont see it |
| 06:15.13 | sgk284 | what made you think to check this? |
| 06:15.19 | sgk284 | what client you using? |
| 06:15.31 | orchid | I guess screen -U for utf, inside rxvt-unicode with the locale set to tuf-8 isnt enough to see utf characters :-\ |
| 06:15.42 | sgk284 | hrmm |
| 06:16.09 | orchid | oh and /set term_type = utf8 in irssi |
| 06:16.25 | jpa_ | no-one likes utf-8 |
| 06:16.51 | orchid | ok, well thanks anyhow guys |
| 06:17.31 | sgk284 | javax.servlet.http.HttpServlet |
| 06:17.33 | sgk284 | oops ww |
| 06:17.35 | sgk284 | ~ww |
| 06:17.36 | ibot | Can I get a woot woot? |
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| 06:19.15 | jpa_ | hello brlicantdecidewhichnicknamefitsbestformecad |
| 06:19.40 | jpa_ | :) |
| 06:19.48 | sgk284 | ~scramble brlicantdecidewhichnicknamefitsbestformecad |
| 06:20.08 | sgk284 | ~scramble brl i cant decide which nickname fits best for me cad |
| 06:21.01 | jpa_ | ibot brlcad is also betnmianeasfcmhfslwdeoierkticaehncbicrdticd |
| 06:21.04 | ibot | jpa_: cannot alter locked factoids |
| 06:21.04 | brlcad | howdy icouldntthinkofanythingbetterthanmyinitials_ ;) |
| 06:21.27 | jpa_ | now we will forget the meaning and decode it for weeks :) |
| 06:21.38 | jpa_ | locked factoids :S |
| 06:22.13 | brlcad | ;) |
| 06:22.17 | jpa_ | brlinitialswouldhavebeenbetterthannameofthecadprogramimdevelopingcad |
| 06:23.04 | sgk284 | ~rot13 brlcad |
| 06:23.05 | ibot | oeypnq |
| 06:23.10 | sgk284 | heh decode _that_ |
| 06:23.52 | sgk284 | ~rot13 brlinitialswouldhavebeenbetterthannameofthecadprogramimdevelopingcad |
| 06:23.52 | ibot | oeyvavgvnyfjbhyqunirorraorggregunaanzrbsgurpnqcebtenzvzqrirybcvatpnq |
| 06:24.05 | sgk284 | i dont know why but that amuses me quite some bit... |
| 06:24.26 | sgk284 | perhaps its the hour of the morning:) |
| 06:25.20 | Pizbit | Hehehe |
| 06:26.06 | sgk284 | pizbit! your alive! |
| 06:26.12 | sgk284 | omg i thought we lost you |
| 06:26.23 | sgk284 | whew is that a relief... |
| 06:27.00 | Pizbit | Liar. |
| 06:27.25 | jpa_ | yup |
| 06:28.20 | sgk284 | ugh its way too late to be coding a blog... |
| 06:28.52 | sgk284 | yet the scent of java is too strong and i cannot walk away... |
| 06:29.34 | jpa_ | it is morning already |
| 06:29.36 | sgk284 | its kind of like a staring contest between me and my httpservlet... at least i like to think so |
| 06:29.46 | sgk284 | only in your fictional land... ;) |
| 06:29.55 | sgk284 | we cant all live in fairy tales :( |
| 06:30.12 | jpa_ | no.. there is not enough space here.. |
| 06:30.26 | sgk284 | heh |
| 06:30.31 | jpa_ | but you don't have life, so you dont count |
| 06:30.46 | sgk284 | :*( |
| 06:31.00 | sgk284 | jpa_, do finns celebrate valentine's day? |
| 06:31.03 | jpa_ | hey! it is a positive thing |
| 06:31.06 | jpa_ | yes, we do |
| 06:31.29 | sgk284 | is it as commercial as it is in the states, or does it still retain some religious value? |
| 06:31.49 | jpa_ | religious.. not really |
| 06:31.56 | jpa_ | but not commercial either |
| 06:32.15 | jpa_ | we just remember our friends, no religion involved |
| 06:32.21 | sgk284 | so you dont have candy, flowers, gifts and cards being shoved at you in every store? and on tv? |
| 06:32.39 | jpa_ | i haven't noticed.. |
| 06:33.08 | jpa_ | while i might spend too much time next to computer :) |
| 06:33.13 | sgk284 | heh okay:) |
| 06:33.28 | sgk284 | is it traditional to get your girlfriend something? |
| 06:33.38 | jpa_ | yes |
| 06:33.42 | sgk284 | k :) |
| 06:33.53 | sgk284 | guess who didn't do that today.... |
| 06:34.06 | jpa_ | (assuming "your" is for passiv :) |
| 06:34.15 | jpa_ | today? it is 15. already |
| 06:34.24 | sgk284 | err yesterday i meant... |
| 06:35.02 | jpa_ | well, you could do it today, no apologies or anything, just like you was just so silly that you remembered it was 15. :) |
| 06:35.18 | sgk284 | everyother year i get my girlfriend like diamond necklaces and earrings and bracelets.... heh |
| 06:36.03 | sgk284 | nah actually our schedules didn't fit well with valentines day so we are going out to a romantic dinner on wednesday... |
| 06:36.12 | sgk284 | thats all she wanted this year:) |
| 06:36.15 | sgk284 | thank god... |
| 06:36.29 | sgk284 | didnt have to spend $130 on a dozen roses.... |
| 06:36.35 | sgk284 | and then see them for $20 a week alter |
| 06:36.38 | sgk284 | later* |
| 06:36.41 | sgk284 | :) |
| 06:37.07 | jpa_ | forget your girlfriend, forget the problems |
| 06:37.13 | jpa_ | you have your computer anyway |
| 06:37.17 | sgk284 | lol! |
| 06:37.32 | sgk284 | heh as long as i have irc, i think i can get through anything |
| 06:37.38 | sgk284 | ;) |
| 06:38.30 | jpa_ | yup |
| 06:39.13 | jpa_ | i'd choose irc over women if i had to.. but better keep that secret :) |
| 06:40.03 | sgk284 | are you serious? |
| 06:40.44 | jpa_ | i think so.. |
| 06:41.07 | jpa_ | while fortunately i haven't had to choose :) |
| 06:42.29 | sgk284 | heh |
| 06:48.18 | jpa_ | ~weather EFTU |
| 06:50.30 | sgk284 | ~weather kphl |
| 06:51.30 | jpa_ | eww |
| 06:51.32 | jpa_ | too warm |
| 06:53.09 | sgk284 | heh |
| 07:02.10 | MeBigFatGuy | surprisingly now at the dew point |
| 07:02.12 | MeBigFatGuy | er, not |
| 07:12.15 | PrezKennedy | ~weather WKRP |
| 07:13.43 | trepan | this help: http://search.weather.yahoo.com/forecast/USOH0188.html ? |
| 07:15.44 | MeBigFatGuy | in cincinnati? |
| 07:16.01 | PrezKennedy | mmm turkey drop |
| 07:17.10 | wegstar | as the tank goes higher.. does the effect of gravity decrease? |
| 07:17.20 | jpa_ | nope |
| 07:17.32 | jpa_ | not so significant in this range :) |
| 07:17.35 | wegstar | hm.. strange.. I'm getting that effect |
| 07:17.45 | jpa_ | or i atleast think it does not |
| 07:18.00 | wegstar | i mean at 25,000 metres |
| 07:18.05 | jpa_ | hmm |
| 07:20.10 | jpa_ | no, it does not |
| 07:21.23 | jpa_ | and even in real world.. earth's radius being 6400km, 25km is not much |
| 07:21.31 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: 03trepan * 10bzflag/ (8 files in 4 dirs): (log message trimmed) |
| 07:21.31 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: - reorganized the Cache Menu |
| 07:21.31 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: - rebuild the scene database if updates gets new textures |
| 07:21.31 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: - files are not removed immediately after a cache size change |
| 07:21.31 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: - improved the errors messages for when libcurl isn't present |
| 07:21.32 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: - try a little harder to make the ESC download halting work |
| 07:21.34 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: - converted Downloads into a namespace, cleaned it up |
| 07:24.02 | trepan | ... and got rid of an extraneous HEAD request ;) |
| 07:29.23 | MeBigFatGuy | thanks |
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| 07:36.30 | wegstar | how do you apply color to mesh objects? |
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| 08:34.42 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: 03trepan * 10bzflag/src/bzflag/ (CacheMenu.cxx Downloads.cxx): cut and paste made me a liar; order matters, texture rebuilds fixed |
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| 09:22.40 | bomber_ | moin |
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| 10:15.07 | cods | hi |
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| 13:15.10 | menotume | hellos Thumper_ |
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| 14:48.00 | TheRedBaron | Mornin grumbler. |
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| 14:48.33 | Grumbler | guten morgen herr TheRedBaron |
| 14:48.35 | [dmp] | TheRedBaron: is baroness relatedt to you guys? (just wondering - seems most barons are :) ) |
| 14:48.53 | TheRedBaron | [dmp]: yep, she is :) |
| 14:49.35 | [dmp] | TheRedBaron: cool :). You need to learn me how you guys do it. I cant get anyone to play bzflag, except when im around :-) |
| 14:49.37 | TheRedBaron | Grumbler: i was wondering if you still have those maps you made based on the xmission map. |
| 14:49.54 | Grumbler | they are all posted on sourceforge |
| 14:50.57 | TheRedBaron | Grumbler: ah thanks then. Do you suppose i could bug you for a link? i Don't visit the SF site alot and don't quite know the navigation around on it. |
| 14:51.42 | TheRedBaron | [dmp]: sure, I'm not quite sure how I do it either... |
| 14:51.54 | Grumbler | http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=browse&group_id=3248&atid=423059&set=open&offset=100 |
| 14:52.28 | Grumbler | asterix/x-life/xmission2/xmission_repl |
| 14:54.10 | TheRedBaron | thankee Mr. Grumbler. the guleague will be very happy with you... |
| 14:54.25 | Grumbler | guleague? |
| 14:55.15 | TheRedBaron | Gamesunited League |
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| 15:02.08 | jpa_ | afternoon |
| 15:02.59 | RedBaron2 | mornin :) |
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| 15:13.58 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: 03trepan * 10bzflag/src/bzflag/ (bzflag.cxx playing.cxx): |
| 15:13.58 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: - display the "Downloading files..." status |
| 15:13.58 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: - changed the default to not update remote textures |
| 15:16.05 | trepan | with DownloadAccess.txt set to full access, and updates off, no DNS calls are made... (likely default) |
| 15:16.59 | gina | anyone knows "tofu"? |
| 15:19.30 | gina | right |
| 15:19.32 | gina | :-) |
| 15:19.40 | menotume | ~dict tofu |
| 15:19.48 | gina | lol |
| 15:19.48 | gina | noooo |
| 15:19.54 | gina | user tofu |
| 15:20.24 | RedBaron2 | lol |
| 15:20.33 | menotume | I've seen tofu - but don't know him/her |
| 15:20.41 | gina | mmm |
| 15:20.43 | gina | ok:) |
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| 15:27.13 | Nidhoggr | ~seen tofu |
| 15:27.15 | ibot | tofu <~brlcad@brlcad.bronze.supporter.pdpc> was last seen on IRC in channel #bzflag, 35d 15h 14m 47s ago, saying: 'might have to put it off for this bz release though'. |
| 15:27.21 | Nidhoggr | :) |
| 15:27.40 | gina | 35 days! |
| 15:27.58 | Nidhoggr | ~seen brlcad |
| 15:27.59 | ibot | brlcad is currently on #brlcad #bzflag. Has said a total of 370 messages. Is idling for 9h 5m 46s |
| 15:28.01 | gina | lol |
| 15:28.21 | gina | I get the point :) |
| 15:28.25 | Nidhoggr | ;) |
| 15:29.35 | menotume | wel, I probably do - but I can't keep track of all the aliases here |
| 15:30.15 | brlcad | ~seen me |
| 15:30.16 | ibot | me <~me@ip503db214.speed.planet.nl> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 9d 21h 21m 7s ago, saying: 'Hey I'm trying to set up my scanner for a 2.6.9 kernel, but I can't seem to find the scanner module, did they change anything since 2.4?'. |
| 15:31.03 | menotume | ~seen the light |
| 15:31.04 | ibot | i haven't seen 'the light', menotume |
| 15:31.17 | menotume | well, get with the program, ibot |
| 15:31.23 | jpa_ | ibot: you are wrong, tofu was present yesterday morning |
| 15:31.24 | ibot | jpa_: what are you talking about? |
| 15:31.28 | jpa_ | ibot: he just did not speak |
| 15:31.31 | brlcad | ~brlcad |
| 15:31.32 | ibot | you are probably like a learner wrapped in tofu best served chilled |
| 15:31.50 | menotume | ugh |
| 15:32.04 | jpa_ | so why are you thirsty? :) |
| 15:32.05 | menotume | and, some people have multiple aliases, too |
| 15:32.06 | TheRedBaron | yea, makes me lose my appetite too meno... |
| 15:34.35 | gina | lol |
| 15:34.49 | gina | brlcad, i got the point already :) |
| 15:36.31 | TheRedBaron | yea, i can't follow multiple aliases either... |
| 15:36.35 | TheRedBaron | the most i follow is 2 |
| 15:36.42 | TheRedBaron | and those are mine... :) |
| 15:37.35 | menotume | ... |
| 15:37.38 | menotume | *** |
| 15:37.40 | menotume | ::: |
| 15:37.51 | [dmp] | menotume: league site isnt links/lynx friendly :) |
| 15:38.02 | menotume | awwwww |
| 15:38.10 | menotume | jscript ? |
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| 15:38.58 | menotume | oh crap - here he is |
| 15:39.05 | [dmp] | menotume: Nope. But the whole page is very wide. AndMenuIsLikeThisWhichIsTheReasonForItGettingSoWide |
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| 15:39.28 | [dmp] | menotume: not that its much of a problem, installing debian again :) But had to try :) |
| 15:39.39 | menotume | k |
| 15:39.51 | menotume | well, once in CVS, you can have at it :) |
| 15:40.05 | [dmp] | Yeah. Long week :) |
| 15:41.44 | brlcad | heya [dmp] |
| 15:41.53 | brlcad | hace tiempo |
| 15:43.53 | Nidhoggr | hiya brlcad |
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| 15:46.10 | Grumbler | !weather annapolis md |
| 15:46.21 | gina | !weather home |
| 15:46.30 | menotume | 'endshot hack' cheater was just on Ducati |
| 15:46.34 | brlcad | ~weather kbwi |
| 15:46.36 | menotume | perm ban |
| 15:47.15 | TheRedBaron | menotume: 2.0 or 1.10? |
| 15:47.28 | menotume | yes |
| 15:47.38 | menotume | hehe - 2.0 |
| 15:47.48 | gina | ~dict invigorate |
| 15:48.04 | TheRedBaron | ah I banned a tkier yesterday night |
| 15:48.17 | TheRedBaron | I told him he should feel proud. first ban on ducati 2.0 :) |
| 15:48.18 | Nidhoggr | menotume: I did talk to the isp abuse department at btopenworld, and they said if we provide logs, they'll do something about that guy. |
| 15:48.33 | Nidhoggr | i banned all of btopenworld from secretplace, though. |
| 15:48.58 | menotume | ahhh - well I have the IP - other than that, Chestal would have the logs |
| 15:49.02 | Nidhoggr | nod |
| 15:51.25 | bryjen | do the logs have any entries about those type of cheats? or is it enough that you say "Foo" was cheating, and the log says "Foo joined from w.x.y.z" ? |
| 15:53.44 | Nidhoggr | no.. they just need time frames. |
| 15:53.59 | Nidhoggr | and people telling him to stop cheating. |
| 15:54.19 | menotume | there was quite a discussion going on about him when I joined |
| 15:54.33 | menotume | apparently, he likes to brag about it |
| 15:54.35 | bryjen | ah, yeah. chat messages would be in the log. and timestamps |
| 15:54.40 | Nidhoggr | nod |
| 15:54.53 | Nidhoggr | well, timestamps if the person was running through a timestamping program. |
| 15:55.05 | Nidhoggr | fortunately we are now, thanks to trepan |
| 15:55.06 | menotume | 16:45 GMT :) |
| 15:55.16 | Nidhoggr | can you log it to syslogd? |
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| 15:55.27 | Nidhoggr | hi SportChick |
| 15:55.40 | bryjen | bzfs -d -d | logger -p local0 |
| 15:55.45 | menotume | that syslogd timestamp is wild |
| 15:55.46 | Nidhoggr | ah |
| 15:56.05 | menotume | and not human-readable |
| 15:56.09 | Nidhoggr | heh |
| 15:56.37 | bryjen | huh? |
| 15:56.41 | menotume | although, I have a proogie that will convert it to human-readable, to the millisecond |
| 15:57.09 | Grumbler | progie?.....like an italian sub |
| 15:57.19 | menotume | heh |
| 15:57.31 | bryjen | "Feb 1 19:47:50 bzflag logger: Player bryjen [2] has joined from" from the log file |
| 15:57.39 | menotume | ohh |
| 15:57.57 | menotume | must be an option, hepcat logs were ..... i'm trying to find the format |
| 15:58.11 | Grumbler | so when are devs going to add a system log file download to an admin client........... |
| 15:58.36 | Nidhoggr | the old 1.7 stuff that shkoo wrote was pretty awesome, but the format was not human readable, and had to be parsed with scripts. |
| 15:58.46 | bryjen | bzfs itself has no such thing as a "log files" |
| 15:58.59 | Grumbler | it has a log switch |
| 15:59.13 | bryjen | hmm? switch? |
| 15:59.19 | menotume | I made a very simple change to just put a timestamp in the start of each line |
| 15:59.37 | menotume | should be built-in to bzfs IMO |
| 16:00.17 | menotume | it's all in one function IIRC |
| 16:00.29 | menotume | 'debug' perhaps ? |
| 16:01.55 | bryjen | there are DEBUG macros, that are just printf's |
| 16:01.56 | menotume | 20041026.111124.186944 Player [0] on 5 removed: Disconnected <== sample |
| 16:02.10 | menotume | a little overkill on the fractions of seconds |
| 16:02.17 | Nidhoggr | :) |
| 16:02.26 | menotume | YYYYMMDD.HHMMSS.fraction |
| 16:02.51 | Grumbler | hmm, could have sworn it had a log file switch....must be getting it confused with something else |
| 16:03.06 | bryjen | uhm, yeah. a bit klunky. maybe you'd get used to the lack of separators after a while |
| 16:03.23 | menotume | didn't want to add too much overhead |
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| 16:03.33 | menotume | was much better than what syslogd put in |
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| 16:04.33 | bryjen | oh, i thought you meant that's what syslog did. it gets worse? ;) |
| 16:04.59 | menotume | ahhh, TAI64NA format :( |
| 16:05.23 | menotume | looked like this: 4000000040e0acdd1d12e4dc |
| 16:05.40 | bryjen | yeesh |
| 16:05.47 | menotume | must have been an option |
| 16:05.48 | menotume | nyep |
| 16:05.50 | Grumbler | so whats the problem with that. ;) |
| 16:05.54 | menotume | hehe |
| 16:06.18 | menotume | 40000000 was the 'offset from 1970' |
| 16:06.22 | bryjen | or a funky syslogd. i don't see any option for time format in my man page |
| 16:06.35 | menotume | 40e0acdd was the unix time in hex |
| 16:06.45 | bryjen | like it's a unix timespec dumped in hex |
| 16:06.57 | menotume | 1d12e4dc was supposed to be nanoseconds - but never really did figure that one out |
| 16:07.20 | menotume | yes, but with a 40000000 in the beginning (always constant) |
| 16:07.27 | SportChick | hi Nid |
| 16:07.35 | Nidhoggr | cool. |
| 16:07.38 | Nidhoggr | how was the trip? |
| 16:15.30 | SportChick | fine. Uneventful. But internet wasn't working when we arrived and we had to change rooms (only to find it STILL wasn't working). It turns out that they installed some sort of an authentication that is supposed to pull up automatically (but it only seems to on ie) |
| 16:16.04 | Nidhoggr | ah |
| 16:16.33 | jpa_ | hel,llo SportChick |
| 16:16.37 | menotume | not a linux-friendly establishment ? bahhh |
| 16:19.25 | *** join/#bzflag The (~bentz@64.252.3.81) |
| 16:28.02 | SportChick | paging lego |
| 16:28.11 | SportChick | Legoguy: ping |
| 16:28.28 | menotume | ahhh - logging can be added in src/common/bzfio.cxx :: formatDebug() |
| 16:29.18 | SportChick | ~seen legoguy |
| 16:29.21 | ibot | legoguy is currently on #bzflag (11h 30m 11s). Has said a total of 12 messages. Is idling for 11h 23m 58s |
| 16:29.55 | menotume | I can provide my little snippet if any wants it |
| 16:30.40 | *** join/#bzflag eva-00 (~d5670213@webchat.bzflag.bz) |
| 16:30.50 | SportChick | anyone here know anything about legoguy's maps? |
| 16:30.58 | jpa_ | something.. |
| 16:31.35 | menotume | even if no one wants it :): http://69.136.111.221/bzfio.cxx |
| 16:32.06 | eva-00 | hi! a friend of me downloaded bzflag for windows but doesn't see any server in the list. Can you help me ? |
| 16:32.19 | jpa_ | menotume: ewwwwww |
| 16:32.23 | jpa_ | menotume: that is not a patch |
| 16:32.30 | menotume | didn't say it was |
| 16:32.35 | trepan | SportChick: whatcha need? |
| 16:32.35 | menotume | :) |
| 16:32.41 | jpa_ | eva-00: the right version? |
| 16:32.45 | menotume | it's simple enough though |
| 16:32.56 | menotume | was on 1.10.6 |
| 16:33.06 | SportChick | trepan, come to the rabbit server - no one's bullets are working,b ut you can kill yourself with bullets or kill others with sr |
| 16:33.07 | eva-00 | jpa: the last I think |
| 16:33.08 | SportChick | it's veyr weird |
| 16:33.24 | SportChick | caverns & overlord, rabbit |
| 16:33.24 | ThePurplePanzer | I'd like to add a Wiki page for v2 map creation info - anyone know how? |
| 16:33.41 | jpa_ | SportChick: easy, we have had that on olympics for ages |
| 16:33.58 | jpa_ | SportChick: it is a patched server, shooting gets just discarded |
| 16:34.12 | SportChick | jpa, yeah,b ut you had it on sections - this is the who map |
| 16:34.18 | SportChick | s/who'/whole |
| 16:34.29 | eva-00 | I don't know very well windows i am on a linux box), maybe xp firewall is blocking ? |
| 16:34.39 | blast007 | eva-00: that's possible |
| 16:34.43 | jpa_ | SportChick: but, do you have a question etc? |
| 16:35.14 | TheRedBaron | eva-00: possible, but XP should bring up a question box askign if you want to permit Bzflag.exe to acess the internet |
| 16:35.36 | bryjen | eva-00: version 2.0 is the latest. there are server for that, and a few for the previous version 1.10 |
| 16:35.54 | blast007 | eva-00: also make sure that he can get to http://my.bzflag.org/db/?action=LIST (that's where the clients gets the list) |
| 16:36.01 | bryjen | the one before that was 1.7. all the server for it should be gone. |
| 16:36.48 | jpa_ | i should put up a server that tells people to upgrade :P |
| 16:36.50 | blast007 | ~bzflist17 |
| 16:36.58 | jpa_ | ok |
| 16:37.01 | blast007 | :) |
| 16:37.01 | trepan | SportChick: player updates were being received, but no shots |
| 16:37.02 | jpa_ | so there is one :)= |
| 16:37.03 | SportChick | jpa, it seems as if it's an issue with the shot packet. no one can see your shots except you |
| 16:37.10 | jpa_ | SportChick: true |
| 16:37.23 | SportChick | trepan, do you see legoguy on here ever? what are his gen. hours? |
| 16:37.24 | eva-00 | Thanks a lot. I ask him to try this url |
| 16:37.31 | SportChick | is that a bug or a setting, trepan? |
| 16:37.40 | jpa_ | SportChick: you think it is not intentional? |
| 16:37.47 | eva-00 | See ya later all |
| 16:37.50 | trepan | bug, i would think, unless he's got a very specific packet filter |
| 16:37.52 | blast007 | SportChick: I've seen that happen after I mess with the /set command a lot, but have never tracked down what caused it |
| 16:38.03 | blast007 | typically a /reset * and a rejoin fixes it |
| 16:38.31 | trepan | blast007: ah, you know which /set var ? |
| 16:38.39 | blast007 | nope :( |
| 16:38.54 | blast007 | and I don't think it's just one either |
| 16:38.57 | jpa_ | blast007: yes, i got it happening on the "everyone has /set permission" map |
| 16:39.23 | jpa_ | mainly messing with shotspeed and bulletradius etc. |
| 16:39.28 | blast007 | seems to happen after I have changed several of them, but I haven't played around with that in a while |
| 16:39.43 | blast007 | yeah, might be something with shotspeed |
| 16:39.56 | jpa_ | or shotradius.. what is it anyway? |
| 16:40.14 | blast007 | think I was playing around with negative values, so you shot bullets out the back of your tank ;) |
| 16:40.33 | blast007 | or maybe just making the bullets go _really_ fast |
| 16:41.05 | trepan | the vars on his server look reasonable, no big shot adjustments |
| 16:41.34 | blast007 | the problem persisted for me until I did a /reset * |
| 16:41.35 | trepan | except maybe _shotRange 1000 |
| 16:42.38 | ToughShooter | trepan: Someone told me my map has some moving stuff when using latest CVS-build on linux (SDL) but on MS-Windows it's looking normal on same machine |
| 16:43.00 | blast007 | moving stuff? |
| 16:43.02 | *** join/#bzflag Noodlema1 (~tuckerm@bc186118.bendcable.com) |
| 16:43.08 | ToughShooter | like planes |
| 16:44.12 | *** join/#bzflag orchid (orchid@orchid.user) |
| 16:44.22 | blast007 | same graphics options for both? |
| 16:44.26 | ToughShooter | He was unable to describe it but I was told it would really look wiered in addition he got only 1 fps and 33 on spiralzone |
| 16:44.50 | ToughShooter | blast007: Same machine. Graphics card is a gf4mx400 |
| 16:45.12 | trepan | ThePurplePanzer: http://bzflag.org/wiki/HelpContents, 3rd down |
| 16:45.49 | blast007 | Linux+GF4 has some issues, think turning off smoothing helped the FPS |
| 16:46.43 | ToughShooter | Should I put it online now that it gets clearer whether it's specific to one player? |
| 16:48.00 | ToughShooter | The player didn't know how to make a screenshot (and I didn't either) |
| 16:48.38 | bryjen | ToughShooter: F5 takes a screenshot |
| 16:49.03 | ToughShooter | brjen: Thanks |
| 16:49.49 | ToughShooter | and my spheres would move while driving |
| 16:54.47 | TheRedBaron | guu, you there? |
| 17:14.43 | Grumbler | ~orchid++ |
| 17:18.09 | Grumbler | ToughShooter< did you ask if the guy had updated his nvidia drivers? or if he was using the default stuff that comes with debian/redhat etc... |
| 17:18.13 | TheRedBaron | Nidhoggr: what bandwith does secretplace use? |
| 17:21.07 | Nidhoggr | my mrtg graphs are still broken. |
| 17:21.31 | Nidhoggr | I'm using about 2mbps |
| 17:21.46 | Nidhoggr | I don't think I have the optimizations running with 2.0. I need to do that. |
| 17:21.57 | Nidhoggr | ~bzflist |
| 17:22.04 | Grumbler | !lart Nidhoggr for not spending every minute of the day satisfying the groups curiousity |
| 17:22.10 | Nidhoggr | heh |
| 17:22.11 | Nidhoggr | :) |
| 17:22.25 | Nidhoggr | I just wish I wasn't so busy with stuff. |
| 17:22.36 | Grumbler | such is life |
| 17:22.37 | SportChick | !94702 |
| 17:22.39 | SportChick | oops |
| 17:22.40 | SportChick | hehe |
| 17:22.47 | SportChick | !weather 94702 |
| 17:23.02 | Grumbler | whoohoo, we have SportChick 's ATM pin number |
| 17:23.04 | TheRedBaron | i think guu went on strike. |
| 17:23.18 | TheRedBaron | she won't talk to me, but then again, she hates me. |
| 17:23.28 | SportChick | ~weather KLAX |
| 17:23.44 | SportChick | hrm - what's the addy for weather stations? |
| 17:23.48 | TheRedBaron | Nidhoggr: thanks, and WOW, what do you have it on? a T1 line? |
| 17:24.02 | Grumbler | well, she does become very sullen a few days every few weeks |
| 17:24.03 | Nidhoggr | a lot faster than a T1 :) |
| 17:24.34 | Nidhoggr | I'm on a 100mb connection that feeds to a multiple gig-e connection to the rest of the net. |
| 17:24.47 | Grumbler | SportChick< give ibot an incorrect locations, it will spill the location of the site to find all the adds |
| 17:24.57 | purple_cow | Nidhoggr: that's like a T1, right? |
| 17:25.00 | Pimpi | ;) |
| 17:25.19 | SportChick | ~weather Berkeley |
| 17:25.43 | Nidhoggr | http://www.dragon.org/mandrake/rackfront.jpg bzflag is the one with the 52x CD Rom. |
| 17:26.53 | SportChick | ~weather koak |
| 17:27.21 | TheRedBaron | Nidhoggr: Nice! |
| 17:27.27 | Grumbler | i think we are warmer here. |
| 17:28.24 | orchid | Grumbler: you plus plused me? what did I do to deserve such an honor |
| 17:28.37 | Grumbler | ssh user permission, didnt know you could do that |
| 17:28.51 | Grumbler | wasnt part of the default config |
| 17:29.07 | TheRedBaron | ~seen Quol |
| 17:29.09 | ibot | quol <~Quol@modemcable103.129-200-24.mc.videotron.ca> was last seen on IRC in channel #bzflag, 2d 3h 29m 48s ago, saying: 'hello me1 '. |
| 17:34.39 | TheRedBaron | Nidhoggr: outta curiosity, where is the server located? |
| 17:34.40 | *** join/#bzflag JeffM2501 (~JeffM@Patlabor221.active.supporter.pdpc) |
| 17:34.40 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o JeffM2501] by ChanServ |
| 17:35.11 | jpa_ | hello jeef |
| 17:36.37 | ToughShooter | Grumbler: He was first using the default stuff and then he retried it with updated drivers. Both gave the same result |
| 17:37.42 | cods | are teleporters on top on mesh working in latest cvs ? |
| 17:37.47 | Grumbler | ok, thats usually the first thing that is addressed. |
| 17:38.06 | trepan | cods: nope, i'll be doing physics after the downloads stuff is a bit tighter |
| 17:38.44 | trepan | i've already got a big patch for it... =) |
| 17:38.52 | Nidhoggr | TheRedBaron: Phoenix, AZ. |
| 17:39.36 | Grumbler | ToughShooter< any objects below ground level? ....its another common problem with floating moving objects.......i assume you have already made sure of this. |
| 17:40.32 | ToughShooter | Grumbler: all objects start at least at heigh 0 |
| 17:40.52 | TheRedBaron | Nidhoggr: do you have any stats for how the lag is for european players? |
| 17:41.21 | SportChick | Nidhoggr: they are complaining about st/cl again on sp |
| 17:41.22 | Nidhoggr | TheRedBaron: it's generally okay for eastern europe. |
| 17:41.39 | ToughShooter | TheRedBaron: From my university's connection (Germany) I get 160ms lag |
| 17:41.59 | Nidhoggr | let me look. |
| 17:42.06 | cods | trepan: ok, good :) |
| 17:46.01 | TheRedBaron | Nidhoggr: i hate to ask favors, but do you think it would be possible for you to host a match server for the Games united league? |
| 17:46.43 | TheRedBaron | 10max active players, and probally 6-8 observers... |
| 17:47.00 | Nidhoggr | possibly. |
| 17:47.13 | Nidhoggr | talk to me later about it. work is very hectic right now. :( |
| 17:47.20 | TheRedBaron | ah sorry |
| 17:47.34 | Nidhoggr | not your fault. :) |
| 17:47.41 | Nidhoggr | I like being able to help out. |
| 17:47.58 | TheRedBaron | ok, thanks! I've got to run anyway so... |
| 17:48.10 | TheRedBaron | i'll be on later, we can talk then? |
| 17:48.23 | Nidhoggr | sure |
| 17:49.03 | TheRedBaron | ok thanks alot Nid! |
| 17:49.42 | TheRedBaron | ok Cya guys later |
| 17:49.48 | SportChick | bryjen: any other ideas |
| 17:55.31 | *** join/#bzflag crko (~jan@cmb27-47.dial-up.arnes.si) |
| 17:57.24 | *** join/#bzflag crko (jan@cmb27-47.dial-up.arnes.si) |
| 18:00.31 | Thumper_ | hmm bzflag just crashed for me |
| 18:00.35 | Thumper_ | WARNING: player already exists at location with id 38 |
| 18:00.35 | Thumper_ | Segmentation fault (core dumped) |
| 18:00.58 | Thumper_ | on hepcat |
| 18:01.04 | Grumbler | whooohoo, hockey is not dead....yet |
| 18:01.42 | Thumper_ | ok - sorry for repeating :) |
| 18:03.41 | trepan | Thumper_: i belive Tupone fixed it in CVS |
| 18:03.57 | trepan | s/belive/also believe |
| 18:07.57 | Grumbler | could be the next McDs slogan... Be Live! I'm Lovin it! |
| 18:12.44 | *** join/#bzflag Noodle-sensei (~tuckerm@216.228.186.118) |
| 18:17.04 | SportChick | Apparently, I picked a good week to be out of the office - they are cutting a whole in the wall right by my desk into the office space we rented next door |
| 18:17.49 | Thumper_ | trepan: thx |
| 18:22.54 | bryjen | hmm, there is a check in the server for shots originating away from the players tank. So maybe that's not it either :/ |
| 18:24.17 | Grumbler | bryjen< the only time i have seen that one fire off is when there is lag.....very rare to see an actual cheat use that. |
| 18:24.51 | bryjen | well, ya. Because (hopefully) it shouldn't work ;) |
| 18:25.45 | SportChick | hrm - if that's not it, any ideas what it COULD be? |
| 18:28.28 | *** join/#bzflag Tupone (Tupone@host-84-222-138-188.cust-adsl.tiscali.it) |
| 18:35.15 | *** join/#bzflag gina (~gigi@50.8-200-80.adsl.skynet.be) |
| 18:40.46 | bryjen | donno. it'd be interesting to be an observer following someone when they claim to have spotted a ST+CL |
| 18:41.56 | blast007 | a ST+CL? |
| 18:42.26 | bryjen | stealth and cloak at the same time |
| 18:42.27 | blast007 | might be a dead tank |
| 18:43.13 | bryjen | dead and shooting? |
| 18:43.21 | blast007 | that was possible in 1.7 |
| 18:43.29 | blast007 | don't know if that's been prevented now |
| 18:45.02 | gina | cloaking stealth, bryjen |
| 18:45.07 | gina | that's *my* flag |
| 18:45.12 | blast007 | :) |
| 18:45.13 | gina | CLST |
| 18:46.04 | jpa_ | there was one nr tank flying in circles on the sky on my server once.. shooting wings people, with this grey bubble around him |
| 18:46.25 | blast007 | that's odd |
| 18:46.32 | jpa_ | it was caused from strange lag, though, 40% lost |
| 18:46.49 | blast007 | ah :) |
| 18:47.06 | jpa_ | but still, nr shouldn't be able to shoot |
| 18:47.30 | blast007 | client might have been having problems sending player updates |
| 18:47.45 | bryjen | I don't see a check for Alive-ness in bzfs.cxx:shotFired() |
| 18:48.33 | jpa_ | hmm.. is there a paused-check there? |
| 18:48.43 | blast007 | jpa_: that's client side |
| 18:48.43 | jpa_ | or hmm |
| 18:48.51 | blast007 | if a tank is paused, his shots won't kill you |
| 18:48.54 | jpa_ | it is in the playerUpdate() etc |
| 18:49.22 | jpa_ | i remember "a dead tank should not send other updates than respawn" etc in comment |
| 18:50.19 | creeperz | it wouldnt be hard to mod it to be "If the tank is active, his shots won't kill you" |
| 18:50.20 | creeperz | :-) |
| 18:50.59 | jpa_ | creeperz: except it is server side.. |
| 18:51.08 | creeperz | oh |
| 18:51.14 | creeperz | ok, nevermind :-) |
| 18:52.30 | gina | under a Gina Private License :) |
| 18:53.40 | *** join/#bzflag blast007 (~blast007@198.150.76.4) |
| 18:55.40 | gina | mmmm |
| 18:56.39 | blast007 | ;) |
| 18:57.16 | bryjen | A dead player might be a possible explanation then. It doesn't look like the server stop accepting position updates or shots from them :( |
| 18:58.25 | jpa_ | oops |
| 18:58.34 | jpa_ | i need to quote that $ |
| 18:59.48 | *** join/#bzflag ToughShooter (~ts@pD95630C7.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 19:00.13 | *** join/#bzflag stevek (~sgk284@ws50.cs.drexel.edu) |
| 19:00.27 | jpa_ | stevek: how evil! |
| 19:00.33 | jpa_ | that is like a stealth flag |
| 19:00.48 | jpa_ | be sgk284 so we can recognise you :S |
| 19:01.34 | SportChick | ~fishslap stevek |
| 19:01.36 | ibot | ACTION slaps stevek up side the head with a wet fish. |
| 19:01.49 | jpa_ | ~bzfrag stevek |
| 19:01.51 | ibot | ACTION destroys stevek with a guided missle |
| 19:02.01 | SportChick | ~lart stevek |
| 19:02.12 | jpa_ | ibot stevek is sgk284! and that is evil! |
| 19:02.13 | ibot | okay, jpa_ |
| 19:02.29 | SportChick | ~stevek |
| 19:02.31 | ibot | stevek is, like, sgk284! and that is evil! |
| 19:02.41 | blast007 | heh |
| 19:02.50 | SportChick | ibot is a valley girl?! ugh! |
| 19:03.16 | ToughShooter | Hmm, why do I remember players called me TS-ST on secretplace? |
| 19:03.17 | gina | aww |
| 19:04.21 | brlcad | TssT |
| 19:04.32 | Grumbler | SportChick< valley boy.....guu is the valley girl |
| 19:04.38 | brlcad | PffT |
| 19:04.49 | SportChick | Grumbler: it was an insult! I KNOW ibot is a boy |
| 19:05.00 | brlcad | ibot's not a boy :P |
| 19:05.07 | jpa_ | ibot ibot |
| 19:05.09 | ibot | rumour has it, ibot is a blootbot written in perl run by TimRiker on his server. logs on http://ibot.rikers.org/<chan>/ , ibot, jbot, apt are all the same process. It uses sqlite, but mysql or other SQL storage is also supported. a bigot, or the man, or a girl, or ``a filthy scum bag'' |
| 19:05.09 | Grumbler | ~whaleslap SportChick for making fun of ibot |
| 19:05.13 | ibot | ACTION slaps SportChick for making fun of ibot upside and over the head with one freakishly huge killer whale named hugh |
| 19:05.13 | brlcad | ~botsnack |
| 19:05.13 | ibot | brlcad: thanks |
| 19:05.13 | SportChick | ibot's sure no girl |
| 19:05.17 | SportChick | ~lart Grumbler |
| 19:05.33 | Grumbler | cant we all just get along |
| 19:05.34 | jpa_ | !bzfrag everyone |
| 19:05.38 | brlcad | jbot's a boy |
| 19:05.41 | brlcad | ibot's a girl :) |
| 19:05.41 | jpa_ | no! |
| 19:05.52 | blast007 | ~gender |
| 19:05.53 | ibot | I'm hermaphroditic |
| 19:05.59 | Grumbler | freak |
| 19:06.01 | SportChick | lol |
| 19:06.05 | brlcad | all from the same database, which is why she get's so confused |
| 19:06.17 | trepan | ibot|tobi, makes sense |
| 19:06.26 | blast007 | ~literal gender |
| 19:06.27 | ibot | "gender" is "<reply> I'm (gay|lesbian|female|sexless|male|hermaphroditic|pregnant|not sure)" |
| 19:06.28 | gina | ~bzfrag ibot |
| 19:06.30 | ibot | ACTION tries to kill ibot, but finds the shield flag |
| 19:06.37 | stevek | hey jpa and SportChick |
| 19:06.43 | stevek | heh |
| 19:06.48 | gina | pregnant is a gender?? |
| 19:06.48 | stevek | let me go see what you wrote... |
| 19:06.57 | jpa_ | hey steifeartoomuchtousemyrealnickvek |
| 19:07.10 | stevek | lol! |
| 19:07.38 | gina | ~laser ibot |
| 19:07.42 | gina | heh |
| 19:07.56 | stevek | so how is everyone this fine day... ? |
| 19:08.02 | creeperz | ~insult jpa_ |
| 19:08.09 | Grumbler | with all these assualts, robo-bot is going to come along and arrest them |
| 19:08.10 | stevek | ~weather kphl |
| 19:08.13 | creeperz | :-) |
| 19:08.19 | jpa_ | ibot morrison is brlcad! and that is evil! |
| 19:08.20 | ibot | okay, jpa_ |
| 19:08.42 | Grumbler | jpa_< what is real scary is that its jim morrison |
| 19:08.47 | stevek | s/wondersis/wonders if |
| 19:09.24 | morrison | nice try jpa_ :P |
| 19:09.37 | morrison | ~morrison |
| 19:09.38 | ibot | methinks morrison is morrison |
| 19:09.52 | *** join/#bzflag Birdie (~birdie@d54C34D0B.access.telenet.be) |
| 19:09.56 | Grumbler | love you two times baby |
| 19:10.03 | morrison | heh |
| 19:10.07 | gina | hey telenet |
| 19:10.11 | jpa_ | ibot morrison is also altering your databases! and that is evil! |
| 19:10.14 | ibot | cannot alter locked factoids, jpa_ |
| 19:10.18 | creeperz | is "Confine Mouse" what keeps my pointer in the bzflag window at all times? |
| 19:10.22 | stevek | ~bzfrag SportChick |
| 19:10.24 | ibot | ACTION kills SportChick with a shot from his BZTank |
| 19:10.28 | jpa_ | ibot locked factoids is stupid |
| 19:10.29 | ibot | okay, jpa_ |
| 19:10.29 | Birdie | hey gina:) |
| 19:10.38 | jpa_ | creeperz: yes |
| 19:10.42 | creeperz | hmm |
| 19:10.44 | creeperz | doesnt work |
| 19:10.56 | Tupone | creeperz: what OS? |
| 19:11.03 | creeperz | windoers |
| 19:11.11 | Tupone | withou SDL I guess |
| 19:11.27 | creeperz | man, i dont even know what SDL is |
| 19:11.41 | Tupone | man, do man SDL then |
| 19:12.05 | jpa_ | man.. man with windows :S |
| 19:12.18 | Tupone | :) |
| 19:12.33 | morrison | ciao tupone |
| 19:12.40 | Tupone | ciao Sean |
| 19:13.11 | SportChick | sean: you leaving? |
| 19:13.11 | jpa_ | why does brlcad always lock his factoids.. |
| 19:13.14 | Grumbler | morrison< you still porting your software to pdp-11s |
| 19:13.42 | morrison | SportChick: huh? |
| 19:13.50 | morrison | jpa_: because of people like you :P |
| 19:14.03 | jpa_ | do they? |
| 19:14.03 | morrison | Grumbler: porting? it still works there :) |
| 19:14.23 | SportChick | [11:12] morrison | ciao tupone |
| 19:14.25 | Grumbler | you mean there havent been any updates? |
| 19:14.44 | morrison | SportChick: ciao is a greeting too |
| 19:14.52 | Tupone | :) yeah |
| 19:14.55 | SportChick | :) |
| 19:15.13 | SportChick | ah, I always thought ciao was like chuss |
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| 19:15.28 | morrison | like chuss without all the fuss? |
| 19:16.00 | Mr_Molez | umm is it usual to ask for matches here ? |
| 19:16.07 | Tupone | If you just meet a person ciao is just a greeting, if you're leaving is a good-bye. Context Sensitive construct |
| 19:16.07 | jpa_ | nope |
| 19:16.07 | stevek | Nidhoggr, ping |
| 19:16.10 | morrison | Grumbler: oh, if I tried to compile today, our new build system would probably need some changes, but it shouldn't take much |
| 19:16.33 | morrison | Mr_Molez: you can try.. your luck will vary greatly |
| 19:16.48 | Mr_Molez | morrison: ok |
| 19:17.05 | morrison | Mr_Molez: can also try #bzleague |
| 19:17.17 | morrison | better luck there |
| 19:17.29 | Mr_Molez | heheh thanx |
| 19:19.31 | SportChick | morrison: no, as in tschüss |
| 19:22.34 | Grumbler | ja matat, then |
| 19:23.10 | morrison | you just call me an as? :) |
| 19:25.44 | JeffM2501 | morrison, still nothing? |
| 19:25.53 | jpa_ | sounded more like a "the ass" |
| 19:26.08 | morrison | nada |
| 19:26.31 | JeffM2501 | damn that's a long list |
| 19:26.48 | gina | ciao, Tupone |
| 19:26.58 | jpa_ | am i on it JeffM2501? |
| 19:26.59 | morrison | but .. is he arrogant too? |
| 19:27.03 | Tupone | ciao GPLed gina |
| 19:27.19 | JeffM2501 | jpa_, not yet, you'll have to keep trying :) |
| 19:27.23 | jpa_ | ha.. so i may modify gina freely |
| 19:27.36 | JeffM2501 | morrison, dono, never talked to him. And that stuff was NASTY! |
| 19:27.50 | JeffM2501 | thanfully stores are carying strawbery blonde again :) |
| 19:27.51 | Tupone | jpa_: you should release it then |
| 19:27.57 | Tupone | s/it/her/ |
| 19:28.13 | jpa_ | warning, gina is free! |
| 19:28.27 | Grumbler | someone open a window, we need some fresh air |
| 19:28.34 | jpa_ | Grumbler: ok |
| 19:28.46 | jpa_ | Grumbler: opened a console window |
| 19:29.51 | jpa_ | hmph |
| 19:29.53 | jpa_ | wont open |
| 19:29.56 | jpa_ | maybe that is good |
| 19:30.12 | jpa_ | last time i forgot it open all night and woke up frozen |
| 19:32.17 | jpa_ | ha! got it open! |
| 19:35.54 | gini | heh |
| 19:36.37 | jpa_ | yeah |
| 19:36.43 | jpa_ | true open source |
| 19:37.04 | jpa_ | while that reminds me too much of a nightmare i once had :s |
| 19:38.39 | jpa_ | gina is tainted! |
| 19:39.09 | gina | lol |
| 19:39.12 | gina | yeeaaah |
| 19:39.50 | jpa_ | oh |
| 19:40.22 | jpa_ | like doWhatIThinkNotWhatITypeWrong(); |
| 19:40.34 | gina | heh |
| 19:44.10 | Grumbler | go ahead gina, its not like there is much going on here right now......it should only take a few hours |
| 19:44.19 | gina | :p |
| 19:44.25 | gina | no no this is #bzflag |
| 19:44.52 | Grumbler | even for some chocolates and a dozen roses. |
| 19:45.51 | jpa_ | convertChocolateToSlap(); |
| 19:47.05 | Grumbler | method does not exist...try convertUnkownLipstickToSlap(); |
| 19:48.11 | Grumbler | heh |
| 19:48.19 | jpa_ | we will first have to do shirt->find(lipstick); and check for lipstick.brand != me.lipstick.brand |
| 19:48.33 | gina | you can't buy my attention with chocs and roses :) |
| 19:48.48 | Grumbler | your an ice girl then |
| 19:49.02 | jpa_ | or a strange girl.. |
| 19:49.08 | jpa_ | yup |
| 19:49.22 | jpa_ | or maybe just some nerd that thinks he is a girl |
| 19:49.29 | gina | hey!!!! |
| 19:49.40 | gina | lol @ jpa, no way |
| 19:49.47 | jpa_ | are you sure? |
| 19:49.51 | gina | oh yes! |
| 19:50.39 | gina | lol |
| 19:50.49 | gina | my bf did believe it :) |
| 19:50.49 | Grumbler | who cares, so long as gina can bring a little humour to the crowd gina can take any gender she/he wants |
| 19:51.18 | jpa_ | well.. realdoll are not so strict about it.. |
| 19:51.23 | gina | huh?! |
| 19:51.38 | gina | afaik I didnt take any gender lol |
| 19:52.57 | jpa_ | gina is not a girl.. he would have slapped by now |
| 19:53.05 | gina | grrr @ jpa |
| 19:54.20 | jpa_ | getting closer |
| 19:54.47 | jpa_ | unless that was a *grrr* and not *grrr* |
| 19:55.32 | gina | that was a dark cloud on my face |
| 19:55.32 | Thumper_ | jpa: :) |
| 19:56.05 | Tupone | Gina Private Licensed ,,, that means GPL |
| 19:57.18 | jpa_ | do you have one? |
| 19:57.22 | gina | grrr! |
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| 19:57.46 | jpa_ | umm no.. i see a ENODEV getting returned |
| 19:57.52 | gina | ~bzfrag jpa_ |
| 19:57.54 | ibot | ACTION skewers jpa_ with a super bullet |
| 19:58.14 | jpa_ | oh! |
| 19:58.20 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: 03trepan * 10bzflag/src/ogl/OpenGLTexture.cxx: |
| 19:58.20 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: - flush OpenGLTexture's from remote sources upon leaving a game |
| 19:58.20 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: - only process and scale images once during an OpenGLTexture's life |
| 19:58.20 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: (results in faster context switching) |
| 19:58.21 | jpa_ | here it came, at last |
| 19:58.30 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: 03trepan * 10bzflag/ (6 files in 3 dirs): |
| 19:58.30 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: - flush OpenGLTexture's from remote sources upon leaving a game |
| 19:58.30 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: - only process and scale images once during an OpenGLTexture's life |
| 19:58.30 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: (results in faster context switching) |
| 19:58.38 | trepan | stupid slow SF |
| 19:59.32 | menotume | Tupone: hellos, I have some info for you |
| 20:00.01 | menotume | Turns out that my graphics got into the 'messed up' state whenever an external sounds event ocurred (AIM) |
| 20:00.12 | menotume | I was using esd |
| 20:00.23 | menotume | turned off esd (no driver now), and all is fine |
| 20:00.36 | Tupone | no esd or nosound? |
| 20:00.42 | menotume | no esd |
| 20:00.51 | menotume | I have sound, but not mixed |
| 20:00.54 | Tupone | using dsp? or alsa? |
| 20:01.11 | menotume | the 'driver' section is blank |
| 20:01.22 | menotume | and no env var set |
| 20:01.29 | menotume | does it default to something ? |
| 20:02.30 | menotume | lol @ Thumper_ |
| 20:02.43 | jpa_ | what is a condolence card? |
| 20:02.44 | menotume | Thumper_: nice maps you have running on 2.0 |
| 20:02.58 | menotume | condolence: 'sorry for your loss' |
| 20:03.39 | Thumper_ | menotume: thx |
| 20:03.45 | menotume | 'greeting card' generally sent to someone when a friend or family member has passed |
| 20:03.47 | menotume | :) |
| 20:04.00 | menotume | really shows the power of 2.0 |
| 20:04.15 | jpa_ | menotume: "for your loss".. shouldn't that have been sent when i was born? |
| 20:04.26 | Thumper_ | BZland isn't my map - I'm just hosting it. Happy Tanker made that |
| 20:04.28 | menotume | hehe |
| 20:04.41 | Tupone | menotume: at the startup, bzflag says Driver audio: something . On the chat area |
| 20:04.57 | menotume | is that the one with the 'spinners' that shoot you way out into nowhere |
| 20:05.02 | menotume | Tupone: I'll check |
| 20:05.03 | Thumper_ | yup |
| 20:05.09 | Thumper_ | BZland - amusement park |
| 20:05.25 | Thumper_ | and it's ridiculously large right now |
| 20:05.27 | menotume | Tupone: ahh, mus default to dsp |
| 20:05.35 | Tupone | ok |
| 20:05.45 | Tupone | is like the old 1.10 |
| 20:06.06 | menotume | seems to work fine - better than when I specified dsp in the driver - I must have been dreaming |
| 20:06.17 | menotume | ahh, ok |
| 20:07.07 | menotume | works fine, crisp sounds, no delay |
| 20:07.37 | Tupone | great |
| 20:08.00 | menotume | ~Tupone++ |
| 20:09.26 | Birdie | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:09.26 | ibot | birdie has karma of -1 |
| 20:09.30 | Birdie | :( |
| 20:11.11 | menotume | lemme fix that |
| 20:11.16 | menotume | ~Birdie-- |
| 20:11.19 | menotume | ooops |
| 20:11.21 | Birdie | lol |
| 20:12.23 | menotume | ~krama Birdie |
| 20:12.27 | menotume | ~karma Birdie |
| 20:12.27 | ibot | birdie has karma of -2 |
| 20:12.34 | menotume | ooooop |
| 20:12.35 | Birdie | ~menotume-- |
| 20:12.37 | Birdie | ops:) |
| 20:12.48 | menotume | ++ has to be in channel i guess |
| 20:12.58 | menotume | ~Birdie++ |
| 20:13.17 | Birdie | ~krama menotume |
| 20:13.25 | menotume | lol |
| 20:13.28 | menotume | copy-cat |
| 20:13.34 | Birdie | ~karma menotume |
| 20:13.34 | ibot | menotume has neutral karma |
| 20:13.37 | Birdie | lol i know |
| 20:13.55 | Birdie | i cant make that thing before the karma with my keyboard:( |
| 20:14.03 | gina | birdie: |
| 20:14.08 | menotume | ohh - it's a 'tilde' |
| 20:14.15 | gina | altgr + and then type a space or so |
| 20:14.33 | gina | works fine |
| 20:14.36 | Birdie | i see it on my keyboard |
| 20:14.39 | Birdie | but i cant form it |
| 20:14.44 | Birdie | its with alt gr |
| 20:14.49 | Birdie | but its not placing it:( |
| 20:15.01 | gina | altgr + the key, and then space ! |
| 20:15.10 | Birdie | aaaaah |
| 20:15.34 | Birdie | ~gina++ |
| 20:15.41 | Birdie | thx gina:) |
| 20:16.14 | Birdie | ~menotume++ |
| 20:16.25 | Birdie | i'll give yours back to meno:) |
| 20:16.45 | menotume | :) |
| 20:17.43 | gina | birdie, if you want I can visit you at home in oudenaarde and show you how to do it! |
| 20:17.58 | Birdie | lol |
| 20:18.33 | menotume | /msg ibot works too |
| 20:18.37 | Tupone | Even I don't know how to do it |
| 20:19.40 | gina | tupone, if you want I can visit you at home in Italy and show you how to do it! |
| 20:19.47 | Tupone | :) |
| 20:20.11 | Birdie | yay tupone, you to:) |
| 20:20.16 | Tupone | you're welcome |
| 20:21.05 | jpa_ | that is part of mandantory computer training in finland to make tilde.. :) |
| 20:22.03 | Tupone | but still I don't know how to do on laptop :) |
| 20:22.27 | jpa_ | people usually press ~ twice.. and get two ~~.. and backspace them _both_ away and try again :P |
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| 20:38.00 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: 03atupone * 10bzflag/include/PlayerInfo.h: Stopping dead player shot |
| 20:40.43 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: 03atupone * 10bzflag/src/bzfs/bzfs.cxx: Stopping dead player shot |
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| 20:41.22 | holiday | hello |
| 20:41.39 | orchid | hi |
| 20:41.54 | holiday | i'v got a question...maybe someone could help me?my config file's destroyed and there was a font one could activate...how can i do this? |
| 20:42.00 | holiday | i forgot how to do :( |
| 20:42.28 | blast007 | ah, ProFont? |
| 20:42.32 | holiday | yeah |
| 20:42.51 | blast007 | should be able to edit the config file and change the console font to that |
| 20:43.23 | blast007 | set consoleFont ProFont |
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| 21:14.38 | nixdepp | Hi |
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| 21:26.11 | Blue_Eyes | hi all |
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| 22:18.52 | Grumbler | TimRiker< did wegstar explain why the wiki has the -1.#QNAN0 entries |
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| 22:23.13 | menotume | hellos gigikitty |
| 22:25.03 | Grumbler | ~dict flemish |
| 22:25.46 | tankitty | lol |
| 22:25.54 | tankitty | ~dict dutch |
| 22:26.18 | Grumbler | didnt think belgium was large enough to have a northern and western region |
| 22:26.43 | Pimpi | Grumbler: Birdie is flamish |
| 22:26.59 | tankitty | lol Grumbler |
| 22:27.03 | tankitty | and 3 languages |
| 22:27.07 | tankitty | 10 provinces |
| 22:27.11 | Birdie | all true:) |
| 22:27.11 | crko | would it be possible to play music on a bzf server? |
| 22:27.14 | crko | :>> |
| 22:27.28 | crko | like not client specific but the server would play :> |
| 22:28.01 | Grumbler | i was trying to think what you classify people from belgium as....ie, germany -> germans, france -> french, belgium -> ??? |
| 22:28.15 | tankitty | belgian |
| 22:28.17 | tankitty | s |
| 22:29.09 | Grumbler | yeah, it didnt sound right in my head, i kept thinking it was flemish......too much Hercule periot as a kid i suppose |
| 22:29.32 | tankitty | or flemish, yes |
| 22:29.38 | tankitty | Poirot |
| 22:29.58 | Birdie | belgium isnt all so logic |
| 22:29.59 | Grumbler | ah, thnx |
| 22:30.13 | TimRiker | Grumbler: not to me, no. |
| 22:30.27 | Pimpi | switzerland is even smaller than belgum and has 4 languages and (not sure about the exact number) 20+ regions |
| 22:30.34 | Birdie | belgium has 2 parts, but 3 languages |
| 22:30.49 | Pimpi | whats the third? |
| 22:30.54 | Birdie | most people say, a flemish part, and a french speaking part, but they all forget german |
| 22:31.02 | Pimpi | ic |
| 22:31.07 | Birdie | flemish french german are the 3 languages |
| 22:31.11 | *** topic/#bzflag by Grumbler -> http://BZFlag.org/ || http://my.BZFlag.org/bb/ || http://my.BZFlag.org/ || http://cia.navi.cx/stats/project/BZFlag || Shellshock is revived http://shellshock.bzflag.bz || Simple Map Help - http://bzflag.org/wiki/MapMaking || BZFlag 2.0.0 is Released! - Go to http://sf.net/projects/bzflag http://bzflag.org/wiki/Download | |
| 22:31.22 | Pimpi | didn't know about that |
| 22:31.29 | Birdie | (a very very little community of germans though, near germany) |
| 22:32.18 | Grumbler | Pimpi< but thats switzerland, nobody understands the swiss. :) |
| 22:32.39 | Birdie | yea like why they arent in the european union |
| 22:32.47 | Pimpi | that explains much about DV ;) |
| 22:32.57 | Birdie | all/almoust all countrys aroudn them are in |
| 22:33.02 | Grumbler | is monaco in the EU |
| 22:33.09 | Birdie | if dv = switserland => switserland is crazy:) |
| 22:33.16 | Pimpi | hey, they only lately joined the UN |
| 22:33.25 | Birdie | monaco is a country? |
| 22:33.55 | Pimpi | assigned to france, but yes, politically it it a country of its own |
| 22:33.56 | Grumbler | thought so......all the tax benefits and such |
| 22:34.29 | Birdie | i thought you see it as a part of france, and because of that its in european union because france is in |
| 22:34.38 | Birdie | (i THOUGHT that:) ) |
| 22:34.46 | Pimpi | Andorra is in most aspects a country of its own |
| 22:34.54 | Birdie | san marino the same |
| 22:34.55 | Pimpi | Liechtenstein |
| 22:35.22 | Pimpi | Munich |
| 22:35.27 | Pimpi | ;) |
| 22:35.31 | Birdie | lol |
| 22:35.36 | Birdie | not munich:) |
| 22:35.42 | Grumbler | i dont think people care about the smaller countries because the money system is based off the larger neighbor |
| 22:35.43 | Pimpi | (only germans might understand... |
| 22:36.01 | Birdie | no one talks about those little countrys about joining |
| 22:36.10 | Grumbler | munich, like paris to the french |
| 22:36.14 | crko | liechtenstein is west from austria right? |
| 22:36.21 | tankitty | si |
| 22:36.21 | Birdie | brussels in belgium:-) |
| 22:36.32 | tankitty | birdie, is it??? |
| 22:36.56 | SportChick | http://www.eurunion.org/states/home.htm |
| 22:37.07 | Birdie | brussels is the center of the european union |
| 22:37.50 | Grumbler | wow, its "The Netherlands".....similar to "The Artist formerly known as Prince" |
| 22:38.07 | Pimpi | i love the name "Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia" |
| 22:38.22 | Birdie | :) |
| 22:38.41 | Birdie | all those russian countrys to, used to be from the big russia |
| 22:38.41 | Grumbler | talk about a whole country having a chip on their shoulder |
| 22:39.18 | SportChick | http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/index.html |
| 22:39.26 | Grumbler | estonia, you border on the adratic, your chief export is fish and ......hmm, have to watch those cheers episodes more |
| 22:39.34 | Grumbler | or is it albania |
| 22:39.55 | SportChick | technically it's "The Kingdom of the Netherlands" |
| 22:40.17 | Grumbler | Birdie< shes cia, deep cover....sssshhhh |
| 22:40.27 | tankitty | and the kinkdom of Belgium :) |
| 22:40.30 | SportChick | Grumbler: hush! |
| 22:40.35 | Birdie | :)lol |
| 22:41.23 | Grumbler | SportChick< the chicken doth fly in a strange direction, east is where the wind is from, and ducks have webbed feet |
| 22:41.52 | SportChick | Grumbler: it's actually SD-6, isn't it? |
| 22:42.26 | Grumbler | we prefer the men in black |
| 22:42.39 | Grumbler | hmm, that could get intrepreted wrong |
| 22:42.42 | Birdie | Sex ratio: |
| 22:42.42 | Birdie | at birth: 1.05 male(s)/female |
| 22:42.42 | Birdie | under 15 years: 1.04 male(s)/female |
| 22:42.42 | Birdie | 15-64 years: 1.02 male(s)/female |
| 22:42.42 | Birdie | 65 years and over: 0.7 male(s)/female |
| 22:42.43 | Birdie | total population: 0.96 male(s)/female (2004 est |
| 22:42.45 | Birdie | interesting:) |
| 22:43.21 | Grumbler | looks like you are killing off your males |
| 22:43.24 | Birdie | Dutch (official) 60%, French (official) 40%, German (official) less than 1% -> how much those languages are spoken |
| 22:43.49 | Grumbler | wow, they have AIDS totals |
| 22:44.08 | Birdie | 10000 people with aids |
| 22:44.15 | Birdie | and only 10 million people live in belgium |
| 22:44.18 | Birdie | wow.. |
| 22:46.16 | tankitty | Grumbler: we are |
| 22:47.02 | tankitty | wait until I meet birdie |
| 22:47.17 | Birdie | lol |
| 22:47.30 | tankitty | station oudenaarde, birdie? |
| 22:47.35 | tankitty | or aalst? |
| 22:47.42 | tankitty | :p |
| 22:47.45 | SportChick | Looks like Italy and Finland are the places to live in Europe if you like time off |
| 22:47.49 | SportChick | http://www.cepr.net/give_me_a_break.htm#_ftnref2 |
| 22:48.05 | tankitty | tell that to jpa and tupone :) |
| 22:48.05 | Tupone | and choice to not develop |
| 22:48.11 | Birdie | oudenaarde is on the 4th place of best station in belgium i read in "the metro(paper)" last week |
| 22:48.27 | tankitty | oohhhh |
| 22:48.33 | tankitty | how cool |
| 22:48.35 | tankitty | :p |
| 22:48.58 | Birdie | ;) |
| 22:49.14 | Birdie | i like time off, but belgium doesnt know it:( |
| 22:49.43 | tankitty | sure, the male/female ratio in station oudenaarde is now about 1.5 |
| 22:50.01 | Birdie | ever been in oudenaarde? |
| 22:50.20 | tankitty | :p |
| 22:50.49 | tankitty | ever drove a real tank? |
| 22:50.53 | tankitty | :p |
| 22:51.06 | Birdie | i was in once but didnt drove it |
| 22:51.13 | Birdie | :) |
| 22:51.17 | tankitty | <=== this girl did! |
| 22:51.39 | Birdie | wow |
| 22:51.46 | Birdie | accidents? |
| 22:52.00 | tankitty | two cars disappeared |
| 22:52.05 | Birdie | :) |
| 22:55.06 | tankitty | waar spreke we af |
| 22:55.09 | tankitty | :p |
| 22:55.19 | tankitty | tochniemand die hieriets van verstaat |
| 22:55.36 | Birdie | straks kicke ze ons nog omda we geen engels spreken |
| 22:57.13 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: 03trepan * 10bzflag/ (7 files in 5 dirs): |
| 22:57.13 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: - make GroundMaterial remote texture capable |
| 22:57.13 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: - only force rebuilds for textures in materials that are being used |
| 22:58.25 | tankitty | kopetnie |
| 23:07.16 | SportChick | http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=blog&r=f |
| 23:07.23 | bryjen | to blog. blog = web log, like an online journal |
| 23:07.43 | Birdie | i'm lost now |
| 23:07.56 | blog | It's a bird - it needs an example |
| 23:08.21 | SportChick | http://www.KirkandDonna.com/donna/ <-- example |
| 23:09.18 | Birdie | i'm sry to made you blog:) |
| 23:10.47 | bryjen | the word "blog" does sound like a description of a sound |
| 23:11.26 | SportChick | ~lart SleepChick |
| 23:11.55 | salts | heh |
| 23:11.57 | bryjen | kinky |
| 23:12.30 | salts | not sure that qualifies as a lart |
| 23:14.12 | bryjen | actually, shouldn't you dissolve? |
| 23:14.40 | salts | _really_ hot water |
| 23:14.57 | bryjen | ooops, sorry :) |
| 23:15.31 | Birdie | goodnight |
| 23:15.37 | bryjen | g'night |
| 23:15.53 | blog | bye bye Birdie |
| 23:16.06 | Birdie | even THE meno says bye |
| 23:16.13 | Birdie | he must like me:) |
| 23:16.29 | blog | no comment |
| 23:16.43 | Birdie | lol |
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| 23:19.02 | tankitty | lol |
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