| 00:00.10 | DBlue | but the programmers?> should be so proud! ven beats online participation 0f game gboy and pay station!!!!!!!!! did u know that? |
| 00:01.11 | sussudio | ~ep |
| 00:01.12 | ibot | Stop!!! Using!!!! So!!!!! Much!!!!! Punctuation!!!!!!!!!!! It's ..... Irritating ..... As ..... All .... Hell!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 00:01.41 | DBlue | i know play station, i said my peice000000000000000000 right |
| 00:02.05 | DBlue | 9ejrddf9 kdjdfd9dfd kdflkddfdf9df09 k |
| 00:02.25 | DBlue | _ _ _ . . . _ _ _ ? |
| 00:02.29 | sussudio | DBlue: /server OMGLOLZ |
| 00:02.38 | purple_cow | DBlue: calm down |
| 00:02.50 | DBlue | hey |
| 00:02.54 | DBlue | ty |
| 00:03.14 | DBlue | I did not even know anyone even saw what i was saying |
| 00:03.39 | DBlue | i thougbht this was a deas channel |
| 00:04.06 | DBlue | i thougbht this was a dead channel |
| 00:04.22 | DBlue | i was wrong eh? |
| 00:04.37 | purple_cow | the proper response to a dead channel is not to fill it with exclaimation points :P |
| 00:05.21 | DBlue | well will try not fill it with !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! points!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! sorry!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 00:05.39 | DBlue | lmao |
| 00:05.42 | DBlue | :)) |
| 00:06.16 | DBlue | gues what? |
| 00:06.30 | DBlue | u haqve 1 million new email messages |
| 00:07.51 | blast007 | arg, all spam too! ;) |
| 00:08.47 | DBlue | HE JUST GOT A BACKDOOR TROJAN |
| 00:08.51 | DBlue | HEHEHEHE |
| 00:08.56 | DBlue | lol |
| 00:09.09 | sussudio | ~aolify DBlue |
| 00:09.19 | DBlue | no |
| 00:09.27 | DBlue | hwsfdfdbdfuYOU!? |
| 00:09.43 | sgk284 | oh god, please someone take care of him |
| 00:09.50 | DBlue | _ _ _ ... _ _ _ you? |
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| 00:10.08 | DBlue | gsfgsdf hsfhsfhsfk jsjsjsdfsj and then sdssdsdu7 |
| 00:10.14 | *** kick/#bzflag [DBlue!~jupiter@128.138.74.40] by purple_cow (calm down!) |
| 00:10.19 | blast007 | lol |
| 00:10.32 | sgk284 | thank you |
| 00:10.41 | sgk284 | lol |
| 00:10.45 | Bagheera | wow, cows powers |
| 00:10.47 | blast007 | :) |
| 00:10.51 | sgk284 | ~purple_cow++ |
| 00:10.56 | sgk284 | ~karma purple_cow |
| 00:10.56 | ibot | purple_cow has karma of 3 |
| 00:11.15 | blast007 | ~purple_cow++ |
| 00:11.41 | scanline | ~purple_cow+=1<<24; |
| 00:11.45 | Bagheera | guy starts writting code again, then begins to use his cow powers.....what is next |
| 00:12.01 | ChipX86 | he can also sing and dance. It's true. |
| 00:12.13 | purple_cow | ChipX86: shh |
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| 00:41.35 | TimRiker | aw... I missed the calm DBlue |
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| 00:41.55 | purple_cow | heh |
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| 01:07.22 | Thumper_ | ~purple_cow++ |
| 01:08.41 | retro | ~karma |
| 01:08.41 | ibot | retro has karma of 3 |
| 01:08.54 | TheRedBaron | as anyone here made a mainstream switch from windows to mac? |
| 01:09.15 | TheRedBaron | *has... |
| 01:09.29 | retro | are you talking bzflag centric, or in general? |
| 01:09.40 | TheRedBaron | in general |
| 01:10.03 | retro | I haven't personally, but several friends and coworkers have. They are happy with the switch. |
| 01:10.14 | TheRedBaron | I'm trying to help a friend do that... but i'm a brainwashed windows user... So its the blind leading the blind.. |
| 01:10.45 | retro | I hear the folks at the Apple stores are very helpful. Drop by and talk to them. |
| 01:11.24 | TheRedBaron | ok. |
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| 01:11.43 | TheRedBaron | from what i've seen, Its not that appealing to me... |
| 01:12.05 | retro | it's different than windows. Not worse. |
| 01:12.07 | Sir_Lance_A_Lot | ok - Central Registration Database prob on my server |
| 01:12.24 | retro | In general, it seems to be higher quality software, imho. |
| 01:12.29 | Sir_Lance_A_Lot | when someone logs in, they are not recognized as registered by the Server |
| 01:12.30 | TheRedBaron | It could be that I've got a powerbook, and notebooks as a norm are not upgradable.. |
| 01:12.33 | Sir_Lance_A_Lot | even me |
| 01:12.41 | blast007 | Sir_Lance_A_Lot: is this a public server? |
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| 01:12.52 | TheRedBaron | I'll agree the user interface is graphically impressive.. |
| 01:13.12 | TheRedBaron | but finding hardware info isn't... |
| 01:13.55 | bestbuddyever | I would like to agree, but I just dled bzflag 2 and it's broken (OS X, iBook 2001, 10.3.7) |
| 01:14.12 | retro | what hardware info are you looking for? |
| 01:14.30 | bestbuddyever | I was going to ask if anyone knew about it before I filed yet another bug report. |
| 01:15.25 | bestbuddyever | Specific issue is: font rendering in main menu, switches to vertical green stripes on black background and I'm locked out of the computer. |
| 01:15.50 | TheRedBaron | retro: procc speed, vid spec. I miss my "windows explorer" equivilent. (for lack of a better term) |
| 01:15.58 | bestbuddyever | That's a vauge overview anyway. |
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| 01:16.20 | retro | hrm, don't know how to ask it, but I'm sure it's possible. Better to just do a search on google or apples website |
| 01:16.24 | TheRedBaron | from what i'm figuring, it looks like i've got a OSX 10.3.6... |
| 01:16.33 | blast007 | what local databases (user, password, and group) are needed for when doing central registration? |
| 01:16.39 | purple_cow | TheRedBaron: apple menu->about this mac will give you some info |
| 01:16.40 | blast007 | s/doing/using |
| 01:17.22 | bryjen | blast007: just groupdb if assigning permissions to groups |
| 01:17.25 | retro | TheRedBaron, why are you asking general Apple questions on the bzflag channel. :) |
| 01:17.35 | retro | I'm sure there are better channels to ask on |
| 01:19.13 | TheRedBaron | retro: 1, i prefer talking to people I "know" 2. I heard legend of a whiz on apples, goes by learner, but since I beat him once, he won't talk to me... |
| 01:19.17 | TheRedBaron | :) |
| 01:19.35 | TheRedBaron | he claims faulty radar but... |
| 01:19.36 | bryjen | ~seen brlcad |
| 01:19.38 | ibot | brlcad is currently on #brlcad #bzflag. Has said a total of 2 messages. Is idling for 1h 39m 25s |
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| 01:21.04 | TheRedBaron | purple_cow: can't find that "apple menu" is it on the desktop somewhere? |
| 01:22.25 | purple_cow | TheRedBaron: top left corner |
| 01:26.14 | TheRedBaron | purple_cow: bear with me, i'm looking but i can't find it... |
| 01:26.38 | TheRedBaron | this is a powerbook, does that change anything at all? |
| 01:27.09 | blast007 | isn't it that little apple icon? (/me hasn't used a mac in years...trying to remember) |
| 01:27.10 | TheRedBaron | aha |
| 01:27.21 | TheRedBaron | yes it is that little apple icon... |
| 01:27.32 | blast007 | k |
| 01:27.39 | TheRedBaron | i just found it. Thanks Cow :) |
| 01:28.14 | Sir_Lance_A_Lot | still no central registration... |
| 01:28.29 | Sir_Lance_A_Lot | i took the server.pass and server.user lines out |
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| 01:32.11 | TheRedBaron | hmm does mac have an alt-ctrl-del equivalent? |
| 01:33.09 | retro | you mean to reboot, or bring up a task monitor? |
| 01:33.34 | retro | I _HATE_ the way M$ has overloaded the use of the old three finger salute. |
| 01:36.05 | TheRedBaron | task monitor |
| 01:36.43 | retro | well, you won't find it with a funky multipress. Look in the apple menu. Most interesting stuff is there. |
| 01:37.11 | retro | I'm actually headed to a co-worker's office right now. He's a mac user, I'll ask him. bbiag |
| 01:37.15 | retro | gah, bbiab |
| 01:39.05 | TheRedBaron | k thanks retro |
| 01:40.43 | retro | he says, in the apple menu, is an item "Force quit" Click on that, and a menu of tasks comes up, and you can kill them if you like. Or just close the menu after looking. |
| 01:40.55 | TheRedBaron | ok |
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| 01:43.48 | blast007 | http://www.engadget.com/entry/1234000730027925/ |
| 01:47.51 | TheRedBaron | i could use one of those blast... |
| 01:47.53 | blast007 | TheRedBaron: here's some MacOS X keyboard shortcuts http://www.uark.edu/compserv/softsys/macintosh/macos/osx/osxkeybd.html |
| 01:48.10 | blast007 | Option-Command-esc = Force Quit |
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| 01:48.40 | retro | blast007, I want one of those switches. I'm guessing they are real switches inside, just wired to nothing. I'll have a coworker translate the webpage for me. I might have to get one.:) |
| 01:48.55 | blast007 | :) |
| 01:49.43 | TheRedBaron | thanks for those shortcuts blast, I live by them in windows... too lazy to move the mouse :) |
| 01:49.53 | blast007 | hehe |
| 01:53.28 | shorty114 | _another_ split??? |
| 01:53.48 | blast007 | niven.freenode.net is apparently having issues ;) |
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| 01:54.16 | shorty114 | for me it's zelazny.freenode.net |
| 01:54.20 | blast007 | odd |
| 01:55.31 | shorty114 | haha http://zelazny.freenode.net/ |
| 01:55.39 | shorty114 | they haven't changed the default page lol |
| 01:57.26 | TheRedBaron | ok bed time. Cya guys later. Thanks for the helps and tips :) |
| 01:57.33 | blast007 | cya |
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| 03:11.44 | sgk284 | tupone, ping |
| 03:14.16 | sussudio | ~slap shorty114 |
| 03:14.18 | ibot | ACTION slaps shorty114, keep your grubby fingers to yourself! |
| 03:15.58 | shorty114 | sorry |
| 03:16.07 | shorty114 | trying to get my bot to identify to nickserv |
| 03:16.16 | shorty114 | not going very well, obviously >.< |
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| 03:16.53 | sgk284 | shorty, a bot for #bzflag? |
| 03:17.02 | sussudio | :-| |
| 03:17.12 | sussudio | shorty114: eggdrop? |
| 03:17.21 | blast007 | supybot |
| 03:17.25 | sussudio | :-P |
| 03:17.30 | shorty114 | supybot |
| 03:17.57 | shorty114 | mainly for #shorty114 |
| 03:18.04 | shorty114 | but i'm ready to ctrl-c it >.< |
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| 03:33.26 | Legoguy_ | oh poo, sf.net anon cvs is down again |
| 03:35.25 | sgk284 | cvs hiccuped on me earlier too :/ |
| 03:36.07 | scanline | shorty114: seems awfully silly to have a channel named after yourself.. what's it for? |
| 03:36.49 | sgk284 | scanline, i think you said what everyone was thinking ;) |
| 03:37.08 | sgk284 | -shorty114++ |
| 03:37.09 | sgk284 | :) |
| 03:37.12 | sgk284 | err wait |
| 03:37.17 | sgk284 | ~shorty114++ |
| 03:37.20 | sgk284 | heh nice |
| 03:38.19 | shorty114 | hrm? |
| 03:38.21 | shorty114 | what did i miss? |
| 03:38.29 | shorty114 | ~karma shorty114 |
| 03:38.29 | ibot | shorty114 has karma of -476 |
| 03:38.32 | shorty114 | hehe |
| 03:38.40 | blast007 | lol |
| 03:38.40 | scanline | ~shorty114-- |
| 03:38.48 | sussudio | ~karma GeorgeWBush |
| 03:38.48 | ibot | georgewbush has neutral karma |
| 03:38.52 | sussudio | that's not right |
| 03:38.53 | shorty114 | whoa |
| 03:38.58 | shorty114 | ~GeorgeWBush-- |
| 03:39.09 | shorty114 | ~karma shorty114 |
| 03:39.09 | ibot | shorty114 has karma of -477 |
| 03:39.36 | shorty114 | ~karma scanline |
| 03:39.36 | ibot | scanline has karma of 4 |
| 03:40.38 | Legoguy | ~karma Legoguy |
| 03:40.38 | ibot | legoguy has karma of 1 |
| 03:40.40 | Legoguy | woo. |
| 03:40.58 | sussudio | ~karma chameleon |
| 03:40.58 | ibot | chameleon has karma of 1 |
| 03:41.08 | shorty114 | who's chameleon? |
| 03:41.12 | shorty114 | ~karma GeorgeWBush |
| 03:41.12 | ibot | georgewbush has neutral karma |
| 03:41.13 | sussudio | you come and gooo |
| 03:41.17 | Legoguy | just about to ask the same |
| 03:41.30 | sussudio | ~google for karma chameleon |
| 03:41.53 | sussudio | mkay? |
| 03:42.06 | Legoguy | right. |
| 03:42.20 | shorty114 | whatever. o.o |
| 03:42.47 | sussudio | ofcourse, the song is probably older than you... |
| 03:43.09 | Legoguy | yeah, prolly. what year? |
| 03:43.17 | sussudio | 1983 |
| 03:43.26 | Legoguy | yep, 4 years older. |
| 03:43.29 | DTRemenak | ~Legoguy++ |
| 03:43.37 | DTRemenak | ~Legoguy++ |
| 03:43.41 | Legoguy | say what!? |
| 03:43.44 | bryjen | ~lart sussudio for that reference |
| 03:43.55 | DTRemenak | you did profont and only have one karma? that wasn't write :) |
| 03:44.00 | DTRemenak | right even...dang |
| 03:44.04 | Legoguy | haha |
| 03:44.05 | sussudio | bryjen: you're humming it right now, aren't you. |
| 03:44.14 | Legoguy | DTRemenak: what about my map? :P |
| 03:44.24 | DTRemenak | ahh |
| 03:44.27 | DTRemenak | ~Legoguy++ |
| 03:44.37 | DTRemenak | ~Legoguy++ |
| 03:44.52 | Legoguy | well sheesh i wasn't expecting that much, but ok |
| 03:44.58 | DTRemenak | bryjen: one to hold each wire, then they spin around |
| 03:44.58 | sussudio | that's how communism works. |
| 03:45.07 | DTRemenak | Legoguy, it rejected the middle one :) |
| 03:45.12 | Legoguy | hehe |
| 03:45.12 | DTRemenak | ~karma Legoguy |
| 03:45.12 | ibot | legoguy has karma of 5 |
| 03:45.18 | Legoguy | cool |
| 03:45.22 | Legoguy | ~karma DTRemenak |
| 03:45.22 | ibot | dtremenak has karma of 66 |
| 03:45.27 | Legoguy | figures |
| 03:45.27 | DTRemenak | geesh |
| 03:45.30 | bryjen | serial cables aren't twisted pairs |
| 03:45.36 | sussudio | uh huh. |
| 03:45.37 | DTRemenak | bryjen, they are in Poland |
| 03:46.01 | bryjen | in soviet russia, the pairs twist YOU! |
| 03:46.04 | sussudio | you only need like 5 wires, though. |
| 03:46.04 | bryjen | ;) |
| 03:46.20 | sussudio | i think 1 and 4,5,6 |
| 03:46.32 | Legoguy | (ignoring the fact that they have 9 pins..) |
| 03:46.43 | sussudio | yes, it's not using all the pins, captain obvious |
| 03:46.52 | bryjen | usb is just 4. join us in the 21st century |
| 03:46.59 | Legoguy | haha |
| 03:47.05 | sussudio | nein |
| 03:47.54 | Legoguy | i cant beleive i have windows XP running on a Pentium 200 MMX w/ 64MB PC66 RAM. gag me with a spoon.. |
| 03:47.58 | DTRemenak | eww |
| 03:48.03 | DTRemenak | ~gag Legoguy with a spoon |
| 03:48.05 | ibot | ACTION takes away the voice of Legoguy with a spoon and as an additional precaution, sows Legoguy with a spoons's mouth shut permamently... |
| 03:48.07 | sussudio | doesn't it come with a spoon? |
| 03:48.13 | Legoguy | hahah |
| 03:48.21 | DTRemenak | a spoon's mouth |
| 03:48.28 | bryjen | i think you're punishing yourself enough already. |
| 03:48.29 | Legoguy | i never had voice anyway, so |
| 03:48.44 | sussudio | why not get over it and put win95 or 98 on it |
| 03:48.46 | DTRemenak | Legoguy, get windows off that poor thing :) |
| 03:49.09 | Legoguy | DTRemenak: it's a proprietary Dell mobo, won't let me put linux on it, can't get it to boot quite right |
| 03:49.11 | sussudio | yeah, like linux with X isn't going to run like crap |
| 03:49.20 | bryjen | or at least get it some more RAMs |
| 03:49.24 | sgk284 | Legoguy, what?! it wont let you put linux on it? |
| 03:49.27 | sgk284 | what do you mean? |
| 03:49.29 | DTRemenak | Legoguy, won't boot |
| 03:49.31 | DTRemenak | ? |
| 03:49.33 | DTRemenak | how so? |
| 03:49.41 | DTRemenak | linux runs on everything :) |
| 03:49.45 | sgk284 | yea! |
| 03:49.53 | sussudio | DTRemenak: don't have any compaqs, do you? |
| 03:49.55 | Legoguy | well, it will boot the gentoo livecd |
| 03:49.58 | Legoguy | BUT |
| 03:50.00 | sgk284 | and microsoft didnt start their "safe-computing" nonsense yet... |
| 03:50.00 | DTRemenak | sussudio, I do. they run linux :) |
| 03:50.06 | JBdiGriz | I've tried booting linux on my right shoe, it's having problems with the aglet driver. |
| 03:50.14 | sgk284 | sussudio, i have a compaq that runs linux |
| 03:50.22 | sussudio | DTRemenak: the deskpro 466 won't even recognize most harddisks to begin with |
| 03:50.24 | DTRemenak | JBdiGriz, you know shoes can't run without feet! |
| 03:50.43 | JBdiGriz | DTRemenak: You don't know my shoes :D |
| 03:50.47 | DTRemenak | hehe |
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| 03:51.15 | bryjen | JBdiGriz: incorrect boot sequence. the left one first. |
| 03:51.21 | HeadCrash | Howdy, folks. |
| 03:51.28 | JBdiGriz | bryjen: shoes, not boots |
| 03:51.32 | HeadCrash | I'm looking for nid. |
| 03:51.34 | Legoguy | BUT-- it's a very old broken bios. i had to upgrade the bios on it just to get the livecd to boot. Then came the problems with the strange Dell floppy disk controller. And the fact that ndiswrapper isn't on the gentoo livecd so i can't have wireless on it. |
| 03:51.40 | DTRemenak | aww, JBdiGriz stole my comment |
| 03:51.40 | Nidhoggr | ? |
| 03:52.09 | Legoguy | it's going to be a computer for my mom; just general web browsing and email, nothing _too_ intensive. Firefox and Thunderbird work "ok" |
| 03:52.18 | bryjen | "booting linux on my right shoe". wrong verb then |
| 03:52.21 | Nidhoggr | HeadCrash: ?? |
| 03:52.22 | HeadCrash | retro asked me to pass on the news about the server bug I reported last night, which was debugged by brlcad. |
| 03:52.37 | Nidhoggr | which bug? |
| 03:52.41 | Nidhoggr | the GM one? |
| 03:52.41 | HeadCrash | It's what's causing many tanks to be frozen |
| 03:52.45 | Nidhoggr | hrm. |
| 03:52.53 | JBdiGriz | It's easier to steal shoes when they aren't on feet. I'd have to be really good otherwise. |
| 03:52.58 | sussudio | my tank froze earlier... and then bzflag crashed. |
| 03:53.00 | DTRemenak | Legoguy, XP will kill that poor thing :) |
| 03:53.13 | HeadCrash | The basic symptoms are that some clients connect, and can't move (except to jump) |
| 03:53.24 | Nidhoggr | strange. |
| 03:53.26 | bryjen | i've got linux on a 133mhz amd 5x86 (i486-ish thing). X and KDE |
| 03:53.28 | DTRemenak | it runs like molasses on 400mhz/128mb |
| 03:53.32 | sgk284 | Legoguy, what distro did you try? |
| 03:53.36 | sussudio | HeadCrash: i had that with a very early 1.11 |
| 03:53.40 | HeadCrash | My hypothesis (it appears to be confirmed by brlcad) was that it is related to recent changes in networking code |
| 03:53.46 | Nidhoggr | aaah |
| 03:53.50 | Legoguy | sgk284: Gentoo |
| 03:53.54 | Nidhoggr | interesting. |
| 03:54.00 | HeadCrash | Effects only very recent versions of the server. |
| 03:54.06 | HeadCrash | Don't know which ones. |
| 03:54.09 | DTRemenak | Legoguy, but I hear ya on the floppy controller. Couldn't ever get that to work on a certain Dell 233 I was working on. |
| 03:54.26 | Legoguy | yeah. |
| 03:54.27 | Nidhoggr | did brlcad say he was going to look into it further? |
| 03:54.32 | Legoguy | at least with the 2.6 kernel |
| 03:54.32 | HeadCrash | brlcad could probabably tell you, but I haven't been through the changelogs myself (and don't know the code either, for that matter). |
| 03:54.34 | Legoguy | it seems |
| 03:54.37 | Nidhoggr | ~seen brlcad |
| 03:54.39 | ibot | brlcad is currently on #brlcad #bzflag. Has said a total of 2 messages. Is idling for 4h 14m 26s |
| 03:54.45 | Legoguy | ARGH |
| 03:54.51 | Legoguy | i can't live with XP on this |
| 03:54.53 | DTRemenak | hehe |
| 03:54.54 | Legoguy | just can't |
| 03:54.56 | DTRemenak | toldjaso :) |
| 03:55.03 | HeadCrash | brlcad was working on it last night, and appeared to have at least identified the problem. |
| 03:55.05 | Legoguy | too damn slow |
| 03:55.09 | sussudio | Legoguy: put win98 on it and tweak the cache size in system.ini... |
| 03:55.10 | Nidhoggr | I don't code, but people tell me stuff because they know I'll whine like a baby until it's fixed. ;) |
| 03:55.15 | Nidhoggr | cool |
| 03:55.29 | Nidhoggr | did you fill out a bug report on the bug tracker? |
| 03:55.32 | Legoguy | i hate 98 worse than XP |
| 03:55.39 | Nidhoggr | that is the best way to make sure it's not forgotten. |
| 03:55.42 | DTRemenak | NT4 :) |
| 03:55.45 | HeadCrash | Anyway, retro suggested that I report it in case anyone wants to rebuild a server (in particular secretplace) |
| 03:55.45 | Legoguy | it had 95 on it when i 'obtained' it |
| 03:55.49 | bryjen | !lart DTRemenak |
| 03:55.53 | DTRemenak | hehe |
| 03:56.01 | DTRemenak | that's what the one I was working on had on it before |
| 03:56.09 | sgk284 | HeadCrash, what problem/ |
| 03:56.10 | sgk284 | ? |
| 03:56.28 | Nidhoggr | I've been holding off on rebuilding. I should anyway. |
| 03:56.49 | Legoguy | DTRemenak: i think im gonna try to get the livecd working with ndiswrapper agian. at least i have my mp3 player as a 128mb portable usb drive. |
| 03:57.02 | HeadCrash | sgk284: The basic symptoms are that (for some clients) one connects and the tank is frozen |
| 03:57.37 | Nidhoggr | hopefully it doesn't break too much worse than it's already broken. :) |
| 03:57.38 | Legoguy | ndiswrapper = so i can use the Windows wireless card drivers on Linux. its a bad hack, but im used to it on my laptop and it works well. |
| 03:57.43 | HeadCrash | sgk284: It is a little more complicated than that, since shooting and jumping work (if you are above the "ground plane") but other movement won't. |
| 03:57.50 | DTRemenak | Legoguy, I put SuSE on the one I was working on, it worked fine. |
| 03:58.05 | Legoguy | i won't touch any other distro than gentoo |
| 03:58.07 | HeadCrash | sgk284: The bug effects recent versions of the server in the CVS repository, but wasn't there a couple of weeks ago |
| 03:58.08 | Legoguy | it's just not me |
| 03:58.10 | DTRemenak | how sad |
| 03:58.32 | Legoguy | i have 3 other systems willing to help out with distcc. |
| 03:58.36 | Nidhoggr | my current compile is a week old probably. |
| 03:58.54 | Legoguy | i just need the damn network to work.. |
| 03:58.59 | Legoguy | heh. |
| 03:59.08 | HeadCrash | sgk284: brlcad had me connect to a couple different servers -- only recent versions of the code were effected. |
| 03:59.25 | Nidhoggr | did he say newest should fix it? |
| 04:00.05 | sgk284 | HeadCrash, thanks |
| 04:00.20 | HeadCrash | Nidhoggr: He didn't say anthing about a fix -- this was 3am (EDT) when he said he had figured out what was causing it. Not sure if there is a fix yet. |
| 04:00.29 | Nidhoggr | aaah |
| 04:00.29 | sgk284 | DTRemenak, any reason /hostban doesnt say "Host added to list" or whatever anymore when you hostban? |
| 04:00.44 | DTRemenak | sgk284, it should still say it to whoever added the ban |
| 04:00.44 | HeadCrash | sgk284: No problem. I really didn't need to sleep last night. ;) |
| 04:00.58 | sgk284 | lol |
| 04:00.59 | DTRemenak | if it doesn't then whoever changed that screwed it up |
| 04:01.17 | sgk284 | DTRemenak, err yea something seems to be wrong with acl.hostValidate, testing now |
| 04:01.34 | sgk284 | saying everyone validates... i think |
| 04:01.56 | HeadCrash | Anyway, nice chatting with you folks. I can't play on secretplace or hepcat (or most other servers) till this is fixed, so I hope someone is working on it. |
| 04:02.01 | sgk284 | cya headcrash |
| 04:02.27 | bryjen | did I not commit the fix for the hostban acknowledgement? |
| 04:02.37 | HeadCrash | ciao |
| 04:02.37 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03dtremenak * 10bzflag/src/bzflag/ (HUDRenderer.cxx bzflag.cxx): add showCoordinates client bzdb var to display the current coordinates of the tank. useful for map debugging. |
| 04:03.38 | sgk284 | hrmm my hostban acl troubles may be due to this "List server send failed: Resource temporarily unavailable" i hope |
| 04:03.49 | DTRemenak | I'm _so_ glad bzflag is open source. being able to quickly edit in little stuff like that when you need it is wonderful. |
| 04:03.57 | sgk284 | yea:) |
| 04:04.20 | DTRemenak | dunno how long it would have taken me to fix borg cube without that patch :) |
| 04:07.57 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03bryjen * 10bzflag/src/bzfs/commands.cxx: acknowledge adding hostbans |
| 04:08.25 | DTRemenak | ~bryjen__ |
| 04:08.28 | DTRemenak | ~bryjen++ |
| 04:08.37 | DTRemenak | dang, can't even type straight today |
| 04:08.48 | bryjen | __ = shiftless -- ? |
| 04:08.59 | DTRemenak | no, missed the ++ |
| 04:10.28 | bryjen | i saw that message was missing earlier today whilest testing. Fixed but forgot to commit. |
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| 04:24.08 | sgk284 | do i need to do something special to make the listserver take auth requests from my server |
| 04:25.10 | sussudio | do a little dance? |
| 04:25.24 | sgk284 | heh |
| 04:25.29 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03trepan * 10bzflag/src/ (4 files in 2 dirs): _texturereplace -> texturereplace, note when there are no bzdb var diffs |
| 04:25.31 | sgk284 | i keep getting: List server send failed: Resource temporarily unavailable |
| 04:25.51 | sgk284 | unless i do a local connection |
| 04:25.53 | sgk284 | :/ |
| 04:26.24 | sgk284 | someone registerd on bzbb feel like connecting to krenzel.info:5154 and seeing if you auth okay? |
| 04:30.03 | DTRemenak | sgk284, hostban seemed to work. tried rejoining a few times to no avail :) |
| 04:30.09 | sgk284 | yea i saw:) |
| 04:30.24 | sgk284 | hostban i've never been too worried about... its the antiban in conjunction with it... |
| 04:30.31 | sgk284 | :/ |
| 04:30.50 | DTRemenak | and now that the ban stuff moved, the rejoin timer kicks in even if you're banned :) |
| 04:31.18 | DTRemenak | not a problem, just interesting to see :) |
| 04:31.22 | bryjen | "Please wait 5 seconds to be banned again" |
| 04:31.24 | sgk284 | see everything comes in at different times... the hostname thena bit later the callsign..then a bit later you authenticate, the thing is note very user authenticates because not everyone is registered so its like when do you do the antiban check? |
| 04:31.50 | sgk284 | s/note/not |
| 04:31.56 | sgk284 | s/very/every |
| 04:32.20 | DTRemenak | I don't have a problem with it only taking effect for globally-authed users |
| 04:32.40 | bryjen | if they pass bzfs a token, it should wait till it's verified. if they're not red'ed, they won't send a token |
| 04:32.46 | bryjen | at least not a valid one ;) |
| 04:32.59 | sgk284 | hrmm k |
| 04:33.14 | DTRemenak | might have to add a trigger for rejected tokens to hit, too |
| 04:33.39 | DTRemenak | right now there's no distinction between "no token yet" and "bad token" |
| 04:33.50 | sussudio | it's a bad token! can't have my pot pie! |
| 04:34.33 | sgk284 | is isRegistered() just local? |
| 04:34.51 | DTRemenak | dunno...Use the Source |
| 04:34.59 | DTRemenak | the Source is strong in you :) |
| 04:35.03 | sgk284 | hehe |
| 04:37.18 | bryjen | that's were I was going with it earlier. there needs to be some auth state info stored for the player notVerified, verificationPending, verified, verifyFailed |
| 04:37.34 | DTRemenak | yeah. a VerificationState enum or something |
| 04:37.35 | bryjen | or somethinglikethat |
| 04:50.24 | bryjen | am i missing something? where does checkHostnameBan ever get set true and checkAllPlayer ever get set false? |
| 04:51.09 | bryjen | Ok, setRecheckAll takes a param to set checkAllPlayer... |
| 04:55.23 | bryjen | Ah, and checkHostnameBan goes true in signingOn(). n/m me. i'm just blind :( |
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| 05:19.18 | sgk284 | bryjen, a verification state would be awesome |
| 05:19.20 | sgk284 | :) |
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| 05:23.45 | orchid | ~bzfquery |
| 05:23.55 | orchid | ~bzflist |
| 05:24.19 | orchid | ~bzflist26 |
| 05:25.10 | orchid | ~bzfquery 68.85.3.150:4200 |
| 05:26.37 | orchid | not sure that servers name should be in the list mother****er |
| 05:26.55 | sgk284 | orchid, already mentioned to tim |
| 05:27.04 | sgk284 | think we are going to filter the list |
| 05:27.07 | sgk284 | ~seen timriker |
| 05:27.12 | ibot | timriker <~timr@TimRiker.active.supporter.pdpc> was last seen on IRC in channel #bzflag, 4h 45m 37s ago, saying: 'aw... I missed the calm DBlue'. |
| 05:27.12 | sgk284 | ? |
| 05:27.37 | orchid | heh, DBlue |
| 05:27.43 | sgk284 | at least i'd like to hope so |
| 05:27.52 | sgk284 | heh DBlue was interesting |
| 05:27.55 | TimRiker | sup? |
| 05:27.58 | sgk284 | hey tim |
| 05:28.03 | sgk284 | get my msg yesterday about the list? |
| 05:28.31 | TimRiker | yeah. wish I had an email for all the server owners. |
| 05:28.35 | Urbnlgnd | Hey everyone, i've got a question about getting BZFlag working on OS X. |
| 05:29.08 | sgk284 | TimRiker, think the list should be filtered or not? |
| 05:30.17 | orchid | TimRiker: whilst your here, if someone were to apt-get -t unstable bzflag, on a woody box, would apt get the right versions of the SDL libs, I mean it would get unstable SDL libs to match or woody ones you figure? |
| 05:30.17 | sgk284 | quite a few people have mentioned the one server's name |
| 05:30.41 | TimRiker | sgk284: well I considered it when pieinthesky.kicks-ass.org showed up. |
| 05:31.00 | *** join/#bzflag menotume (~meno@menotume.active.supporter.pdpc) |
| 05:31.00 | TimRiker | this one's even worse. |
| 05:31.04 | orchid | yeah |
| 05:31.05 | TimRiker | anyone talk to an admin there? |
| 05:31.19 | sgk284 | yea, maybe only for extreme vulgarities |
| 05:31.25 | TimRiker | orchid: no. haven't got a prayer of working. |
| 05:31.29 | sgk284 | nope, i can go see if anadmin is playing if you want |
| 05:31.39 | sgk284 | s/anadmin/an admin |
| 05:32.28 | TimRiker | you can tell them I asked for it to be changed. point out that kids play (my 5 year old HenryRiker for example) and see if they will be reasonable first. |
| 05:32.47 | TimRiker | ~tell Urbnlgnd about ask |
| 05:33.18 | sgk284 | no admin there:/ |
| 05:33.34 | TimRiker | sgk284: try /report in case they have a brain. |
| 05:33.42 | sgk284 | and surprisingly one of the players there (foobar iirc) said the title offended him but he was playing there anyway :/ |
| 05:34.21 | sgk284 | no report :/ |
| 05:34.31 | sgk284 | grr |
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| 05:36.51 | Urbnlgnd | TimRiker: Thanks |
| 05:37.46 | Urbnlgnd | I'm trying to get BZFlag 2.0.0 spinning on a G4 running OS X.2.8. When it boots, i see a window open, then the screen goes blank, and the monitor light blinks indicating it can't sync or something.... i've tried trashing my prefs in ~/.bzf/ and in the Application support folder. What am I doing wrong? |
| 05:38.12 | sgk284 | sure you removed your .bzf stuff completely? |
| 05:38.22 | sgk284 | someone had that issue yesterday, removed all their confs and it fixed it |
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| 05:39.35 | Urbnlgnd | yes. I just rm'd it again.... no beans |
| 05:41.59 | sgk284 | try running the client from the command line with -d -d -d -d after it |
| 05:42.31 | sgk284 | ugh this is probably a stupid question, but if any devs are around: whats setPrincipalName() do for the kerberos stuff |
| 05:42.57 | sgk284 | that just set the callsign to be verified? |
| 05:43.17 | TimRiker | on PC systems I've seen it where you need to change the screen res or color depth before starting the game. BZFlag should start in the current mode, but on some buggy video cards it does not. probably bugs in the drivers as well as BZFlag. =/ |
| 05:43.53 | sgk284 | bugs in bzflag? blasphemy! |
| 05:43.55 | sgk284 | ;) |
| 05:44.33 | wegstar | heh |
| 05:44.36 | sgk284 | uhoh here he comes |
| 05:44.59 | sgk284 | :) |
| 05:45.00 | TimRiker | sgk284: er krb don't recall. not active code anyway. don't know if the krb5 test server is even up. Would be nice to replace the current lame token scheme with a kerberos ticket, but not implemented. |
| 05:45.02 | trepan | huh? |
| 05:45.20 | sgk284 | nothing trepan, jsut messing with you |
| 05:45.21 | sgk284 | :) |
| 05:45.33 | sgk284 | TimRiker, oh okay then :) |
| 05:45.53 | sgk284 | i saw the code for handling kerberos msgs and though maybe things changed |
| 05:46.46 | Urbnlgnd | ok: % ./BZFlag-2.0.0.app -d -d -d -d |
| 05:46.46 | Urbnlgnd | ./BZFlag-2.0.0.app: Permission denied. |
| 05:47.06 | TimRiker | sgk284: the code that's there is useful, but needs more work to get integrated instead of using a different port/server for the krb side. |
| 05:47.30 | sgk284 | fair enough :) |
| 05:47.31 | Urbnlgnd | using "open BZFlag-2.0.0.app -d -d -d -d" ... complains that it doesn't know what to do with "-d" |
| 05:47.47 | sgk284 | ugh i though debug was an option for the client in 2.0 |
| 05:47.53 | sgk284 | ~fishslap sgk284 |
| 05:47.55 | ibot | ACTION slaps sgk284 up side the head with a wet fish. |
| 05:48.02 | sgk284 | Urbnlgnd, sorry guess i was wrong |
| 05:48.15 | sgk284 | hrm |
| 05:48.36 | sgk284 | try -debug |
| 05:48.51 | TimRiker | sgk284: I think it is an option. I think that the appname might be a folder. |
| 05:49.52 | TimRiker | bzflag -d -d -d -echo works for me. |
| 05:50.48 | sgk284 | TimRiker, yea your right, -d does work, so does -debug |
| 05:51.04 | sgk284 | Urbnlgnd, sure your running the right thing? |
| 05:51.16 | Urbnlgnd | sgk284: sorry, i wuz stupid: needed to launch "/BZFlag-2.0.0.app/Contents/MacOS/bzflag" |
| 05:51.22 | Urbnlgnd | stupid mac |
| 05:51.24 | sgk284 | wait a second... did type "open" on the cmd line? |
| 05:51.25 | Urbnlgnd | and me |
| 05:51.29 | sgk284 | oh nevermind you got it |
| 05:51.31 | sgk284 | lol |
| 05:51.47 | sgk284 | if i ever got a mac i'd have to throw yellow dog on it right away |
| 05:52.05 | sgk284 | :) |
| 05:52.32 | sgk284 | Urbnlgnd, is debug telling you anything useful? |
| 05:53.21 | Urbnlgnd | erm. not particulary to me. I've got a couple of lines that say "Image not found or unloadable: mountain4" |
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| 05:53.49 | Urbnlgnd | or "explode 3" and a "setTextureFilter() Couldn't find texid: -1" |
| 05:54.17 | sgk284 | oh.. |
| 05:54.28 | sgk284 | err whats the data directory on macs? |
| 05:54.36 | sgk284 | since its *nix it might be /usr/share/bzflag |
| 05:54.49 | sgk284 | try bzflag -directory /data/directory |
| 05:55.23 | Urbnlgnd | maybe ~/BZFlag-2.0.0.app/contents/Resources |
| 05:55.27 | trepan | Urbnlgnd: both those errors are expected |
| 05:55.49 | sgk284 | trepan, image not found? |
| 05:56.06 | trepan | smoke, mountain4, and explode3 |
| 05:56.52 | trepan | sgk284: try bzflag -d -d -d |
| 05:57.37 | Urbnlgnd | sgk284 (to the command you gave me):"No fonts found (the -directory option may help). Exiting" |
| 05:58.09 | sgk284 | ~trepan++ |
| 05:58.24 | sgk284 | okay ignore now lol i |
| 05:58.29 | sgk284 | i'm misleading you |
| 05:58.37 | sgk284 | not on purpose:) |
| 05:58.54 | sgk284 | but everythign i'm asking you to try isnt working :/ |
| 05:59.01 | sgk284 | sure you deleted the right .bzf? |
| 05:59.15 | sgk284 | if its a muliuer environment then you may have removed the wrong one |
| 05:59.18 | Urbnlgnd | oh yes " rm -r .bzf" |
| 05:59.20 | sgk284 | mutliuser |
| 05:59.32 | Urbnlgnd | it's the one in my home dir |
| 05:59.41 | sgk284 | and your executing bzflag as the same user? |
| 05:59.47 | Urbnlgnd | yup |
| 05:59.58 | sgk284 | hrmm |
| 06:00.16 | sgk284 | the only thing i've conclude from this conversation is that i need to pip my irc text through aspell |
| 06:00.19 | sgk284 | concluded* |
| 06:00.28 | sgk284 | s/pip/pipe |
| 06:00.29 | sgk284 | lol |
| 06:00.36 | Urbnlgnd | heh |
| 06:01.01 | sgk284 | howd you install bzflag? |
| 06:01.18 | wegstar | ? |
| 06:02.00 | wegstar | "s/pip/pipe"??? |
| 06:02.15 | MeBigFatGuy | most dogs associated with macs are black and white |
| 06:02.15 | orchid | sgk284: irssi has scripts for that |
| 06:02.59 | Urbnlgnd | i dl'ed the disk image from bzflag.org, then copied it to my apps folder. (as per the instructions in the background of the disk image folder) |
| 06:03.04 | sgk284 | orchid: thanks:) |
| 06:03.18 | *** part/#bzflag sussudio (~sussudio@sussudio.user) |
| 06:03.43 | sgk284 | wegstar, ever use vim? |
| 06:03.55 | wegstar | nope... |
| 06:04.21 | orchid | wegstar: means switch pip with pipe |
| 06:04.34 | wegstar | ah.. ok |
| 06:04.41 | Urbnlgnd | the atecedant of "it" being BZflag-2.0.0.app |
| 06:07.30 | sgk284 | i'm out of ideas:/ anyone else? |
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| 06:08.47 | SportChick | pimp: ping |
| 06:08.50 | SportChick | hrm |
| 06:08.57 | SportChick | where is pimpi's new server/map? |
| 06:08.59 | SportChick | it was cool |
| 06:09.00 | Urbnlgnd | well, thanks for the help. If i find a solution, i'll come back with my solution. |
| 06:09.42 | sgk284 | sounds good |
| 06:09.44 | sgk284 | hey sporty |
| 06:09.48 | sgk284 | whats up? |
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| 06:40.20 | SilverFox | there doesn't happen to be a way to get have your tank's coordinates show is there? That'd be handy to have a toggle for. Particularly when modifying maps. |
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| 06:52.29 | SilverFox | Anyone atk? I've got a problem, and I'm not sure if its a bug or configuration problem. |
| 06:53.08 | SilverFox | Basically, I have two global groups on the hepcat servers. |
| 06:53.36 | orchid | I was having problems logging in there tonight actually |
| 06:53.42 | SilverFox | I'd like to have a single user (server owner) be in the LOCAL.ADMIN group, so I keep the user/pass/group files. |
| 06:55.11 | SilverFox | Problem is that if a user is a member of the HEPCAT.ADMIN or HEPCAT.COP group but don't have an entry in the userdb file, when the connect, they can't global login, and as soon as they type something, or try to play it gets "server unexpectantly quit" |
| 06:55.23 | SilverFox | orchid, which server? |
| 06:55.28 | orchid | yours |
| 06:55.34 | SilverFox | overlord? |
| 06:55.39 | SilverFox | two towers? |
| 06:55.43 | SilverFox | pillbox? |
| 06:55.54 | orchid | pillbox, thats yours no? |
| 06:55.59 | SilverFox | all three are. |
| 06:56.02 | orchid | k |
| 06:56.20 | SilverFox | Also have a 1.10 server, and there is two other "hepcat" 1.10 server that I don't own |
| 06:56.32 | SilverFox | orchid, what was the problem? |
| 06:56.55 | orchid | really laggy there too btw, all players between 250-900ms |
| 06:57.05 | orchid | well I have global login.. |
| 06:57.26 | orchid | but it still disconnected me even with no local login |
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| 07:14.19 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03dtremenak * 10bzflag/man/bzw.5s: Two corrections based on my recent experience - groups take "matref" not "material", materials have "name"s not "matref"s |
| 07:17.20 | SilverFox | orchid, is this the 1.10 server, or 2.0? The 1.10 server, no one is over 50 ms right now. |
| 07:33.49 | SilverFox | I think I got it. |
| 07:33.57 | SilverFox | a mal formated user file I think. |
| 07:54.10 | trepan | DTRemenak: materials can have both "name" and "matref" |
| 07:55.04 | DTRemenak | trepan: it rejected it when I tried |
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| 07:55.56 | trepan | http://trepan.homelinux.net/matref.bzw |
| 07:57.31 | trepan | how did you try it that it failed? |
| 07:57.35 | DTRemenak | ah, referencing an second material |
| 07:57.47 | DTRemenak | mm, as the name, because "name" wasn't there... |
| 07:58.03 | DTRemenak | "an second" boy my grammar's great :) |
| 07:59.50 | purple_cow | DTRemenak: you may find it easier to work from http://navi.cx/svn/misc/trunk/bzedit/scripts/BZFlag/Reader.py ;-) |
| 08:00.16 | trepan | the other types also seems to use the "object" type to indirectly reference "name"... |
| 08:00.24 | DTRemenak | trepan, was just looking at that |
| 08:01.24 | trepan | either, prolly never get used |
| 08:01.29 | trepan | ... either way |
| 08:01.59 | DTRemenak | I tried to use it :) |
| 08:02.16 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03dtremenak * 10bzflag/man/bzw.5s: revert the second part of the last commit; materials may have matrefs |
| 08:02.19 | DTRemenak | found out the group thing was wrong, in the process of trying to fix that was trying other things with materials |
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| 08:49.48 | cods | hmm, in texturematrix, fixedspin argument is in degree, while spin argument is in radian.. right ? |
| 08:58.34 | brlcad | uh, reverse engineering is rather simple.. you HAVE the source.. |
| 08:59.18 | trepan | 20 sec test would have told you |
| 08:59.25 | trepan | fixedspin is an degrees |
| 08:59.32 | trepan | spin is in Hz (cycles/sec) |
| 08:59.53 | cods | I made some test, but I was not able to determine that :/ |
| 09:00.26 | purple_cow | mwahahahahaha |
| 09:00.31 | purple_cow | fyre has the coolest about box ever |
| 09:00.35 | cods | and I was not sure about how the matrix was constructed and if several shift/scale/.. were allowed. |
| 09:00.57 | brlcad | purple_cow: can't make a claim like that without screenies |
| 09:01.20 | purple_cow | brlcad: well, there's this undocumented screensaver mode, right |
| 09:01.44 | purple_cow | that loops through an animation and renders a few iterations to each frame as it's running, so after a while it looks really good |
| 09:01.49 | purple_cow | and the about box has one of those in it :) |
| 09:02.03 | brlcad | ahh |
| 09:02.26 | brlcad | weren't you the one claiming it could never do anything screensaverish just last year :P |
| 09:03.00 | purple_cow | heh |
| 09:03.13 | purple_cow | this uses up an awful lot of RAM for a screensaver ;) |
| 09:03.32 | brlcad | don't all the good ones? :) |
| 09:03.40 | purple_cow | in addition to being the coolest about box ever, it's also the most FPU-hungry about box ever |
| 09:03.56 | brlcad | saving the screen.. not the memory, cpu, heat, fans, drives, etc :) |
| 09:04.12 | purple_cow | heh |
| 09:04.21 | purple_cow | and really, in this day and age, it's just there to look pretty |
| 09:04.36 | brlcad | yep |
| 09:19.35 | Pimpi | moin |
| 09:26.36 | cods | doh, ok it's clear for texture matrix.. I'm bad. And shift/spin/scale order make sense. |
| 09:40.06 | Pimpi | ~bzflist |
| 09:45.02 | Pimpi | ~bzflist |
| 09:51.03 | Pimpi | ~bzflist |
| 09:52.32 | Pizbit | Pimpi: Bored?:) |
| 09:53.20 | Pimpi | Pizbit: no, xchat doesn't beep anymore on highlithed messages and 'm trying to fix this |
| 09:53.37 | Pimpi | bzflist creates a highlithed message ;) |
| 09:53.44 | Pizbit | Rrrright. |
| 10:30.46 | Pimpi | ~bzflist |
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| 11:17.10 | Pimpinella | wb |zongo| |
| 11:17.53 | |zongo| | heya Pimpinella and the rest of the world ;) |
| 11:20.49 | Pimpinella | anon cvs doesn't like me |
| 11:20.56 | Pimpinella | cvs [login aborted]: recv() from server cvs.sourceforge.net: EOF |
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| 12:07.40 | jpa_ | lalla |
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| 13:41.40 | fabienZ | lo |
| 13:42.46 | orchid | hi |
| 13:44.53 | fabienZ | I'm always kicked by server with the message: "your end is not using udp". what can I do for that ? I don't find anything about that in forums, just an option in the game |
| 13:45.23 | orchid | udp is on right? in your options? |
| 13:46.17 | fabienZ | yes it is enabled |
| 13:46.48 | orchid | have you tried other servers? |
| 13:47.57 | fabienZ | yes I do. some server accept me, but they are empty ^^. |
| 13:48.17 | orchid | :-\ |
| 13:50.34 | Crko | when is bzflag 3.0 coming ? ^^ |
| 13:53.58 | orchid | really soon :) |
| 13:54.32 | Crko | really? |
| 13:59.00 | orchid | no, joke, 2.0 was just released |
| 13:59.11 | orchid | likely the next would be 2.2? |
| 13:59.25 | orchid | I think cvs is now 2.1 |
| 13:59.39 | orchid | but not sure on this fancy naming scheme |
| 14:00.13 | [dmp] | wouldnt the next few released be 2.0.even ? unless they begin to add more features? |
| 14:01.42 | orchid | [dmp]: I'm not sure |
| 14:02.14 | Chestal | yes, 2.0.even until protocol breaks |
| 14:02.18 | Chestal | then 2.2 |
| 14:04.59 | Thumper_ | 2.0.x would be next |
| 14:05.06 | Thumper_ | if it follows the kernel version numbering system |
| 14:05.12 | Thumper_ | 2.0.1 2.0.2 2.0.3 ... |
| 14:05.19 | Thumper_ | the '0' is already even |
| 14:05.25 | Thumper_ | so everything in 2.0.x is stable |
| 14:05.32 | Thumper_ | 2.1.x is development |
| 14:05.39 | Chestal | not quite |
| 14:05.49 | Thumper_ | and 2.2.x would next stable set of version numbers |
| 14:05.49 | [dmp] | Thumper_: normally 2.0.uneven is dev 2.0.even is release |
| 14:05.52 | Chestal | 2.0.uneven would be minor dev versions |
| 14:06.07 | Thumper_ | ok |
| 14:06.36 | Thumper_ | I thought the only even/odd number that mattered was the 2nd one in the version numbering system... |
| 14:06.39 | Thumper_ | but I coul dbe wrong.. :) |
| 14:06.49 | Thumper_ | wouldn't be the first time |
| 14:07.38 | cods | :) |
| 14:08.57 | Crko | :> |
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| 14:55.05 | Pimpinella | anyone else who cant access anon cvs? |
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| 15:01.52 | stevek | hello |
| 15:02.03 | Pimpinella | hi stevek |
| 15:02.10 | sgk284_the2nd | :) |
| 15:02.14 | sgk284_the2nd | how goes it? |
| 15:02.48 | Pimpinella | goes grrrrrrr, i cant access anon cvs ;) |
| 15:03.09 | sgk284_the2nd | lol |
| 15:03.21 | sgk284_the2nd | rumor has it anon has been down for over 24hrs |
| 15:04.05 | Pimpinella | at least the error message has changed for me within the last few hours |
| 15:04.16 | Pimpinella | cvs [login aborted]: recv() from server cvs.sourceforge.net: EOF |
| 15:04.19 | Pimpinella | to |
| 15:04.25 | Pimpinella | cvs [login aborted]: unrecognized auth response from cvs.sourceforge.net: M PserverBackend::PserverBackend() Connect (No route to host) |
| 15:04.31 | sgk284_the2nd | heh |
| 15:06.37 | Pimpinella | did you loose control over your first instance? |
| 15:06.53 | sgk284_the2nd | me? |
| 15:07.04 | Pimpinella | yep |
| 15:07.16 | sgk284_the2nd | what first instance? |
| 15:07.24 | sgk284_the2nd | heh its still early in the morning for me:) |
| 15:08.01 | Pimpinella | your'e sgk284_the2nd, there's also sgk284...multi drexel? |
| 15:08.25 | sgk284_the2nd | oh no, thats my connection from my laptop at home |
| 15:08.25 | Pimpinella | s/drexel/krenzel |
| 15:08.31 | Pimpinella | ic |
| 15:08.33 | sgk284_the2nd | i'm at university right now:) |
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| 15:25.32 | Pimpinella | DTRemenak: about your commit "Two corrections based on my recent experience - groups take "matref" not "material", materials have "name"s not "matref"s" |
| 15:25.52 | Pimpinella | with material was meant what is defined a meterial below |
| 15:26.03 | Pimpinella | matref alone won't do the job, since e.g. also texture sould be allowed within groups |
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| 15:26.35 | cods | there was a second commit to partially revert this one. |
| 15:27.17 | cods | (I say that for info, not sure how it's related to your point) |
| 15:27.58 | Pimpinella | yeah, but thats not quite my point |
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| 15:30.18 | Pimpinella | of course you can't say "material" within group, but you can say amy of whats below defined as material |
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| 15:39.37 | bz5125 | helle |
| 15:39.44 | bz5125 | i need some help |
| 15:39.51 | blast007 | ~ask |
| 15:39.52 | ibot | Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise and on-topic. Don't ask if you can ask a question first. Please don't be demanding or insulting. Remember, we're all volunteers. Please don't /msg people without permission. See also http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html |
| 15:40.06 | Bagheera | ~blast007++ |
| 15:40.11 | blast007 | heh :) |
| 15:40.15 | jpa_ | ~blast007++ |
| 15:40.26 | bz5125 | I am a new player (french) and i don't find any manual |
| 15:40.33 | jpa_ | (hmph.. Bagheera did that first :) |
| 15:41.06 | bz5125 | any french here ? |
| 15:41.08 | jpa_ | bz5125: try man bzflag? |
| 15:41.16 | bz5125 | Ok i do that |
| 15:41.31 | cods | bz5125: oui.. -> private if you want. |
| 15:41.41 | bz5125 | ok |
| 15:42.11 | bz5125 | en francais : je ne sais comment me debarasser d'un drapeau vert (si je suis vert) |
| 15:42.23 | cods | in private please.. |
| 15:42.42 | blast007 | bz5125: /query cods |
| 15:42.48 | cods | it's ok |
| 15:43.34 | blast007 | hmm, I think it does |
| 15:43.46 | blast007 | though I haven't used it in a while |
| 15:44.24 | Bagheera | fyi, you wont offend me speaking another language here.......although there are some grumpy people here who might |
| 15:45.27 | [dmp] | Its no fun to lurk, if you dont understand whats going on :) |
| 15:45.54 | orchid | [dmp]: I do that all the time |
| 15:46.18 | orchid | [dmp]: not understanding is fun! |
| 15:46.45 | [dmp] | orchid: look at my code then. Its supposed to work, but g++ keeps complaining :( |
| 15:47.05 | [dmp] | thats sure is no fun |
| 15:47.46 | orchid | yeah,, frustrating |
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| 15:49.23 | [dmp] | i think i've added and change so much, that my "debug" might be a part of the problem now :) |
| 15:50.32 | blast007 | hehe |
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| 16:00.33 | Grumbler | gah, now that is lag |
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| 16:10.41 | Annihilator | is anyone having the problem of being frozen once you spawn on secretplace? |
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| 16:15.30 | Annihilator | hi SportChick :) |
| 16:19.02 | t-s | Annihilator: Sorry, no |
| 16:19.36 | Annihilator | hi t-s |
| 16:19.58 | t-s | Annihilator: Hi there |
| 16:20.04 | Annihilator | i guess i'll have to compile the tarball instead of use emerge |
| 16:20.32 | t-s | I saw it worked for you a few days ago. What have had you changed? |
| 16:20.34 | SportChick | hi Annihilator |
| 16:20.43 | t-s | Hi SportChick |
| 16:20.47 | SportChick | hi t-s |
| 16:20.58 | Annihilator | nice to see you all |
| 16:21.28 | Annihilator | are 1.10.8 servers up still? |
| 16:22.59 | [dmp] | ~bzlist |
| 16:24.11 | [dmp] | Annihilator: Some are. |
| 16:24.28 | Annihilator | okay. bzlist? |
| 16:24.56 | [dmp] | nevermind that. I forgot how to check with ibot - but i could remember the fortix site :) |
| 16:25.15 | Annihilator | fortix site? |
| 16:25.24 | [dmp] | http://fortix.bzflag.org/list.php |
| 16:25.25 | orchid | ~bzflist |
| 16:25.32 | [dmp] | ah |
| 16:26.09 | [dmp] | 82 players using 1.10.x - so i guess some server is up :) |
| 16:28.05 | Annihilator | oh great |
| 16:28.27 | Annihilator | i'll check that... oh, i like pieinthesky.kicks-ass.org: |
| 16:28.53 | t-s | No...I have really have a very low lag there |
| 16:29.08 | [dmp] | lag? |
| 16:29.18 | Annihilator | what's the command to display fps again? |
| 16:29.21 | t-s | ping time is very low |
| 16:29.25 | [dmp] | press t |
| 16:29.25 | t-s | type t |
| 16:29.28 | Annihilator | okay |
| 16:29.29 | tea|tree | t |
| 16:29.30 | tea|tree | ;) |
| 16:29.32 | tea|tree | hola |
| 16:29.32 | [dmp] | :) |
| 16:29.34 | tea|tree | @ all |
| 16:29.36 | [dmp] | hi tree |
| 16:29.39 | tea|tree | hi pee |
| 16:29.45 | tea|tree | dmp |
| 16:29.45 | tea|tree | ;) |
| 16:30.00 | tea|tree | ~ |
| 16:30.02 | [dmp] | t-s: my framedrop isnt related with lag, im affraid. I guess i outta get newer hardware tho :) |
| 16:30.05 | tea|tree | ~d |
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| 16:30.17 | tea|tree | :o/ |
| 16:30.36 | t-s | [dmp]: I didn't meant framedrop. I meant ping times |
| 16:31.01 | [dmp] | t-s: oh. |
| 16:31.08 | Annihilator | right now i'm compiling with all the defaults to see if that solves my problems. i don't wanna be a gentoo ricer |
| 16:31.51 | Annihilator | wb SC ;) |
| 16:32.25 | SportChick | ty - weird, my computer froze up - first time ever, I think |
| 16:32.40 | Annihilator | SportChick, really, what OS? |
| 16:32.46 | SportChick | windoze |
| 16:32.49 | t-s | NT 5.1 |
| 16:32.53 | SportChick | xp |
| 16:33.21 | Annihilator | SportChick, okay OS ;) |
| 16:34.23 | Annihilator | SportChick, think about any major config changes you made to your system in the last few days. that could be the culprit |
| 16:35.05 | t-s | ~x en de culprit |
| 16:36.46 | t-s | Annihilator: Much nicer to see you here instead of seeing on map ;-) |
| 16:37.02 | Annihilator | t-s, it's a pleasure. this is a great community |
| 16:38.02 | jpa_ | ~karma t-s |
| 16:38.02 | ibot | t-s has neutral karma |
| 16:38.10 | jpa_ | you have nothing to lose :) |
| 16:38.53 | Annihilator | t-s, sorry if i was mean over the last few weeks. my level of play hasn't been too good |
| 16:39.06 | Annihilator | t-s, i'm just mad at myself sometimes |
| 16:39.45 | Annihilator | SportChick, i'm recompiling. i'm still having the freeze problem |
| 16:39.55 | Annihilator | SportChick, i'll be back as soon as i can |
| 16:40.06 | t-s | Annihilator: I am also somehow mad and therefore mean. It's because I never can play against good players when they are really awake |
| 16:40.25 | Annihilator | t-s, you're a great player. how long have you playing? |
| 16:40.26 | t-s | SportChick: Sorry, to stressed for that |
| 16:40.42 | t-s | One year, at least 2 hours a day |
| 16:40.50 | Annihilator | t-s, what are you stressed about? |
| 16:41.13 | t-s | getting familiar with BZFlag sourcecode |
| 16:41.22 | Annihilator | t-s, it does seem like you have become a lot better in the last few weeks. i remember i was beating you, but lately, you've really improved |
| 16:41.33 | jpa_ | Player [0] accept() from 217.157.132.92:26696 on 5 |
| 16:41.34 | jpa_ | Player [0] removed at 2005-02-04 15:29:58: Disconnected |
| 16:41.43 | jpa_ | what is that? |
| 16:41.51 | Annihilator | t-s, what do you want to do with the source? |
| 16:41.58 | t-s | Annihilator: I didn't. Was just showing off how good I was |
| 16:42.02 | jpa_ | i'm getting it a lot in my log file, from random ip:s |
| 16:42.27 | t-s | Annihilator: Improving GM hit counts |
| 16:42.48 | Annihilator | t-s, wouldn't that be cheating? |
| 16:43.28 | t-s | Annihilator: Submitting code and hoping that it will be included next version. Not using the changes alone |
| 16:43.40 | Annihilator | t-s, oh, okay. |
| 16:43.55 | Annihilator | t-s, so were you letting me beat you before? |
| 16:44.32 | t-s | Annihilator: I am mostly playing to talk with other players, don't really care about score |
| 16:45.14 | Annihilator | t-s, oh. yeah, i'm starting to talk a lot more too |
| 16:45.49 | t-s | Annihilator: I am trying to reduce my "luck" messages to newbies now... |
| 16:46.05 | Annihilator | okay, compilation done. i'm gonna try SP |
| 16:46.12 | Annihilator | t-s, what are you luck messages? |
| 16:46.25 | t-s | just a plain message with "luck" |
| 16:46.37 | t-s | without the quotes |
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| 16:48.43 | Annihilator | I'm operational now!! |
| 16:49.00 | t-s | operational? |
| 16:49.58 | Annihilator | i fixed the problem of being frozen each time i spawn in SP |
| 16:50.40 | ToughShooter | ~karma ToughShooter |
| 16:50.40 | ibot | toughshooter has neutral karma |
| 16:50.53 | Annihilator | ~karma Annihilator |
| 16:50.53 | ibot | annihilator has neutral karma |
| 16:50.57 | ToughShooter | Annihilator: good |
| 16:51.12 | Annihilator | yeah, i'm happy now. |
| 16:51.18 | ToughShooter | :-) |
| 16:51.46 | Annihilator | it must have been something with the Gentoo ebuild. but the thing is, i was using the ebuild's binary for a few weeks without problems |
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| 16:51.47 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o JeffM2501] by ChanServ |
| 16:52.26 | Annihilator | is it possible to chat on this channel from within the game? |
| 16:52.48 | JeffM2501 | no |
| 16:53.00 | ToughShooter | JeffM2501: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1114032&group_id=3248&atid=303248 |
| 16:53.07 | ToughShooter | Is that better? |
| 16:53.21 | JeffM2501 | looks cool |
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| 16:53.47 | JeffM2501 | Tim wanted to wait for a proto bump untill a 2.0.2 was done, but that looks cool, I'm sure it'll get added. |
| 16:54.22 | ToughShooter | JeffM2501: I am thinking about looking if GM has turned more than 150 degrees count the shot regardless of SelfKillDelay |
| 16:54.49 | JeffM2501 | the high speed thing would not work for that |
| 16:54.54 | JeffM2501 | time is probably fine |
| 16:56.45 | JeffM2501 | generaly the simpler solutions are the best |
| 16:57.21 | ToughShooter | JeffM2501: Probably it can be checked whether flag has changed to HighSpeed but then it would be needed to look how fast player is driving forward...gets more complicated |
| 16:57.37 | JeffM2501 | why make it more complex |
| 16:57.44 | JeffM2501 | is the time thing not working in all cases? |
| 16:58.04 | JeffM2501 | don't overthink it :) |
| 16:58.50 | ToughShooter | JeffM2501: When teleporter is used it could be that GM turns into players direction, shooting him before _gmSelfKillDelay has finished |
| 16:59.06 | JeffM2501 | if the delay is set very high yes |
| 16:59.21 | ToughShooter | Probably _gmActivationTime should be 0 now, too |
| 16:59.41 | JeffM2501 | I think it would depend on how the server operator wants the game to be |
| 16:59.53 | JeffM2501 | may feel GM is too powerfull and now WG is a counter to it. |
| 16:59.58 | JeffM2501 | so they LIKE the 0.5 time |
| 17:00.12 | JeffM2501 | GM guy just has to drop the flag and pop the guy |
| 17:00.25 | JeffM2501 | it seems that just the GM hogs hate the time @ > 0 :) |
| 17:00.43 | JeffM2501 | no default will make everyone happy |
| 17:00.47 | ToughShooter | ~x en de hogs |
| 17:01.08 | JeffM2501 | those who hold on to the GM all the time |
| 17:01.23 | bryjen | ~seen SportChick |
| 17:01.25 | ibot | sportchick is currently on #bzflag. Has said a total of 3 messages. Is idling for 28m 32s |
| 17:01.25 | JeffM2501 | adding your option makes it a more playable for both sides |
| 17:01.40 | JeffM2501 | that may be even better is a "distance" from the player tank before it activates |
| 17:01.55 | JeffM2501 | like say it has to get 1.25 tank sises away |
| 17:01.59 | JeffM2501 | then its "live" |
| 17:02.24 | JeffM2501 | that would help the teleporter issue, since it would "exit" the player space before going thru the teleporter |
| 17:02.47 | JeffM2501 | or turn on tank tank collisions, and don't let tanks be "inside" others |
| 17:03.44 | jpa_ | hmm :) |
| 17:03.55 | ToughShooter | don't letting tanks "inside" other's would be a fundamental change in gameplay |
| 17:04.03 | jpa_ | bryjen: i can be volunteer :) |
| 17:04.25 | *** join/#bzflag ep (~ep@ip68-97-124-161.ok.ok.cox.net) |
| 17:05.05 | SportChick | hi bryjen |
| 17:05.36 | SportChick | bryjen: ping |
| 17:05.39 | bryjen | pong |
| 17:05.48 | SportChick | bryjen: you rang? |
| 17:05.49 | ToughShooter | SportChick: Anni said it would work for him now |
| 17:05.52 | JeffM2501 | brlcad, find any source yet? |
| 17:05.57 | Grumbler | bryjen, i get global login approved, but i only have + |
| 17:05.58 | SportChick | ToughShooter: cool |
| 17:06.12 | bryjen | Grumbler: that's correct for you ;) |
| 17:06.26 | SportChick | bryjen: where do you want me to go? |
| 17:06.36 | Grumbler | thats a risky question |
| 17:06.40 | bryjen | Grumbler: let me ban you to see if that still works |
| 17:06.46 | SportChick | ~fishslap Grumbler |
| 17:06.49 | ibot | ACTION slaps Grumbler up side the head with a wet fish. |
| 17:07.21 | bryjen | Grumbler: try to reconnect |
| 17:07.39 | Grumbler | i did, it joined, i got a global approval, then it forced a disconnect |
| 17:07.53 | bryjen | Grumbler: cool, unbanning you now |
| 17:08.22 | Grumbler | ok, i was unbanned |
| 17:08.33 | SportChick | bryjen: you working on hostbanning issues? |
| 17:09.12 | bryjen | SportChick: I heard you, just testing that I didn't completely break hostbans first |
| 17:09.34 | bryjen | SportChick: try bryjen.bzflag.org:5154 |
| 17:09.40 | SportChick | k brb |
| 17:10.36 | ToughShooter | Are more german swear words are wished? |
| 17:11.08 | ToughShooter | Related to "multilingualSwearList.txt" |
| 17:12.46 | ToughShooter | JeffM2501: absolute distance would be related to tank speed, so a relative one would be needed. not sure what should be used... |
| 17:13.03 | JeffM2501 | yes a relitive distance to the tank |
| 17:13.07 | JeffM2501 | it's just an idea |
| 17:13.14 | JeffM2501 | let your time patch go for a while, see how it works |
| 17:13.24 | JeffM2501 | then changes can be made later if need be |
| 17:16.08 | ToughShooter | JeffM2501: I see. Thanks |
| 17:16.38 | SportChick | good job bryjen |
| 17:16.41 | bryjen | I think that's cracked it then. |
| 17:16.43 | SportChick | ~bryjen++ |
| 17:17.01 | *** join/#bzflag MANgoost (~459d74cd@rw08.de) |
| 17:17.13 | SportChick | bryjen: you said you didn't wanna completely break hostbans first - does that mean they got hostbans working? |
| 17:17.31 | menotume | hello MANgoost |
| 17:17.37 | MANgoost | hi |
| 17:18.00 | bryjen | Tupone put stuff in for keeping hostbans from being repeatedly checked every loop. I adapted it to delay checking until after tokens are verified |
| 17:18.51 | SportChick | bryjen: last I heard (in lay terms) was that it wasn't doing a look up on all of them and/or it wasn't finding it for many |
| 17:19.14 | MANgoost | huh? |
| 17:19.18 | SportChick | bryjen: does that mean that it really works now? or are they stil working on the lookup issue? |
| 17:20.02 | bryjen | iirc, that may have been a thinko by sgk. (he forgot to enable the lookup code a some point) ;) |
| 17:20.11 | SportChick | heheheh |
| 17:20.26 | SportChick | ~sgk284-- |
| 17:20.59 | bryjen | ~Tupone++ |
| 17:21.08 | SportChick | ~Tupone++ |
| 17:21.11 | SportChick | ~bryjen++ |
| 17:23.18 | JeffM2501 | why why why do they fear the mesh? |
| 17:23.32 | menotume | ~SportChick++ |
| 17:23.37 | SportChick | ?? |
| 17:23.42 | SportChick | JeffM2501: who fears it? |
| 17:23.56 | Thumper_ | is this a bug? issuing /reload on a bzfs server loses the global ban list entries |
| 17:25.46 | JeffM2501 | most of the mapers it seems |
| 17:26.12 | JeffM2501 | they still inisist on doing the old 1.10.x hacks, like a flat pyramid to make a plane. |
| 17:26.38 | SportChick | JeffM2501: maybe they just haven't figured everything out yet in 2.0 |
| 17:26.42 | bryjen | they are young, prone to fits of drama, and fear change |
| 17:26.48 | JeffM2501 | well I know they haven't |
| 17:26.55 | SportChick | hehe |
| 17:27.03 | JeffM2501 | but I'm trying to show them how to use them, and they jsut seem to skip over anything with "mesh" in it |
| 17:27.24 | bryjen | or just lazy |
| 17:27.29 | JeffM2501 | it's like they don't want to look at it, like it's been predetermeined to be "hard" |
| 17:27.47 | JeffM2501 | in reading thru dw's map forum, they realy fear it |
| 17:27.59 | JeffM2501 | they barely 'get' the new prims |
| 17:28.06 | SportChick | lotsa whinging going on in here today! ;) |
| 17:28.18 | JeffM2501 | tho don't think a one of them has fully read the manpage |
| 17:28.30 | JeffM2501 | SportChick, isn't that what this place is for? ;) |
| 17:28.32 | bryjen | Thumper_: global ban? masterban ? |
| 17:28.39 | SportChick | JeffM2501: heheh |
| 17:28.50 | Thumper_ | master ban |
| 17:28.55 | SportChick | JeffM2501: NOW you tell me |
| 17:29.09 | Thumper_ | the (m) entries |
| 17:29.13 | JeffM2501 | Thumper_, it should try and reload it, IF you have a curl build. |
| 17:29.22 | Thumper_ | well I do and it doesn't :) |
| 17:29.24 | JeffM2501 | tho it will cause the server to "hold" for the time it takes to get it. |
| 17:29.28 | Thumper_ | they were there on startup |
| 17:29.32 | Thumper_ | after /reload they are gone |
| 17:29.39 | JeffM2501 | maybe someone pulled it on releaod cus it took too long |
| 17:29.43 | JeffM2501 | it's a blocking call |
| 17:29.44 | Thumper_ | maybe |
| 17:29.48 | JeffM2501 | so it's bad in a reload |
| 17:30.30 | Thumper_ | it just looks weird... wasn't expecting to lose some ban entries... |
| 17:31.12 | JeffM2501 | it would be best if reload just did a purge of non globals then remerged in locals |
| 17:31.31 | Thumper_ | yup if it skips (m) ban entries on reload on purpose I would agree with that |
| 17:32.18 | cods | Thumper_: patch welcome :) |
| 17:32.28 | Thumper_ | yup :) |
| 17:33.06 | Thumper_ | I'll have to learn all about how that stuff works first before I can break it with my patch... |
| 17:33.18 | Thumper_ | so it won't be today... |
| 17:33.19 | JeffM2501 | somone else just has the name probably |
| 17:33.27 | Thumper_ | nope |
| 17:33.33 | Thumper_ | different error than nick in use |
| 17:33.44 | JeffM2501 | and the error is? |
| 17:33.59 | Thumper_ | when trying to go t your nick I get |
| 17:34.01 | Thumper_ | 12:33 [debian2] -!- Nick JeffM2501 is already in use |
| 17:34.10 | Thumper_ | trying to go to Thumper I get |
| 17:34.16 | Thumper_ | 12:34 [debian2] -!- Thumper Erroneous Nickname |
| 17:34.20 | Thumper_ | :/ |
| 17:34.25 | JeffM2501 | disallowed name then |
| 17:34.35 | JeffM2501 | somone must have done soem BAD BAD things |
| 17:34.41 | Thumper_ | I guess... |
| 17:34.45 | Thumper_ | wasn't me!! |
| 17:34.52 | JeffM2501 | sure it wasn't |
| 17:35.11 | Thumper_ | I could go back to my old nick... and I would be anonymous again :) |
| 17:35.37 | cods | what about Thumper' or Thumper` ? |
| 17:36.04 | Pimpinella | or |Tumper| |
| 17:36.06 | cods | or [Thumper] |
| 17:36.11 | JeffM2501 | pipes are stupid |
| 17:36.18 | JeffM2501 | so are prebrackets |
| 17:36.20 | Thumper` | what works other quote doesn't |
| 17:36.24 | JeffM2501 | just screws up autocomplete |
| 17:36.25 | Thumper` | but harder to type... |
| 17:36.30 | Thumper` | if you don't have nick completion |
| 17:36.51 | cods | Thumper` should be fine.. |
| 17:36.56 | cods | bad client, change client :) |
| 17:37.03 | Thumper_ | so _ is just my tail then... |
| 17:37.12 | Thumper_ | Thumper` is fine |
| 17:37.21 | Thumper_ | Thumper' isn't |
| 17:37.30 | JeffM2501 | some characters arn't allowed |
| 17:37.35 | JeffM2501 | they are used "special" |
| 17:37.38 | JeffM2501 | in the IRC spec |
| 17:37.41 | SportChick | Pimpinella: that was a great map you had up yesterday! I was looking for it last night to show hubby but it was gone |
| 17:37.45 | JeffM2501 | like space |
| 17:37.53 | Thumper_ | like * so I can't have a fuzzy * tail like Thumper* only a beaver tail like Thumper_ |
| 17:38.04 | Pimpinella | SportChick: wait.. |
| 17:38.22 | JeffM2501 | Thumper_, it's just a name on a text based chat system, not an avatar |
| 17:38.29 | Thumper_ | :) |
| 17:39.05 | JeffM2501 | go play a furry mush if you want a tail :) |
| 17:39.59 | Pimpinella | SportChick: up again, the system might be at high load at the moment though |
| 17:40.08 | Pimpinella | will be better in some minutes |
| 17:40.11 | SportChick | Pimpinella: my only frustration was that once you were dead, you couldn't respawn |
| 17:40.15 | SportChick | Pimpinella: cool, thanks |
| 17:40.23 | SportChick | will it be up in about 8-10 hours still? |
| 17:40.27 | SportChick | that's when hubby gets home |
| 17:40.30 | Pimpinella | think so |
| 17:40.41 | Pimpinella | greetings to him |
| 17:40.48 | SportChick | :) I'll tell him |
| 17:41.09 | SportChick | Pimpinella: he is on here sometimes - name is "mozul" |
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| 17:42.34 | ToughShooter | JeffM2501: I just found out that this was the wrong one...I hopefully uploaded the right one now. |
| 17:45.33 | SportChick | Pimpinella: is this the right addy: pimpi.dyndns.org:5154? I get "server not found" |
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| 17:50.56 | cristi | anyone know from where I can download the latest BZEdit version ? |
| 17:53.24 | JeffM2501 | sourceforge has one |
| 17:53.27 | JeffM2501 | bzbb has another |
| 17:53.31 | JeffM2501 | it hasn't changed in ages tho |
| 17:53.45 | cristi | from where i can download it ? |
| 17:54.08 | JeffM2501 | the 1.6.2 oficial release is on the sourceforge downloads page |
| 17:54.13 | JeffM2501 | same place as bzflag |
| 17:54.18 | cristi | k |
| 17:54.35 | JeffM2501 | 1.6.3 ( kinda unstable it seems ) is on my.bzflag.org/bb/ |
| 17:54.46 | cristi | I know |
| 17:54.49 | JeffM2501 | that's the windows only one |
| 17:55.02 | cristi | but you know the latest version? |
| 17:55.08 | JeffM2501 | those are them |
| 17:55.15 | JeffM2501 | bzedit hasn't been updated since then |
| 17:55.21 | cristi | I can edit 2.0 maps without notepading ? |
| 17:55.33 | JeffM2501 | bzedit was not updated for 2.0 |
| 17:55.44 | cristi | hmm |
| 17:55.47 | JeffM2501 | you can use a modeler like blender and the export tools to make mesh objects and stuff |
| 17:55.49 | cristi | ok |
| 17:55.57 | JeffM2501 | but yes you will have to type at some point |
| 17:56.11 | JeffM2501 | for things like physics drivers, and materials |
| 17:56.11 | cristi | from where i can download blender? |
| 17:56.17 | JeffM2501 | google |
| 17:56.24 | JeffM2501 | were all things come from :) |
| 17:56.37 | cristi | k |
| 17:57.03 | JeffM2501 | blender is NOT a bzflag maper tho, it's a regular modeler that you can use to make objects for maps |
| 17:57.18 | JeffM2501 | it dosnt' do stuff like teleporters, and some of the bzflag secific features. |
| 17:58.44 | *** join/#bzflag cristi (~3ee74cae@webchat.bzflag.bz) |
| 17:59.50 | Grumbler | JeffM2501, kinda unstable?......it was released to a bunch of people though......just didnt have the dll inclusion |
| 18:00.10 | JeffM2501 | people have been saying it seems to crash more |
| 18:00.22 | JeffM2501 | more then 1.6.2 |
| 18:00.33 | Grumbler | 1.6.3?...really....hmmm.....never had any issues |
| 18:00.35 | JeffM2501 | I never built it with .net, so maybe it's no fully .net happy |
| 18:00.39 | JeffM2501 | dono |
| 18:00.42 | JeffM2501 | just know what I hear |
| 18:00.52 | JeffM2501 | maybe they don't have the proper framework version |
| 18:00.55 | cristi | what are you talking about? |
| 18:00.57 | Grumbler | yeah, i understand......it was also pre-sp2 |
| 18:01.12 | *** join/#bzflag PvtMalarkey (~chatzilla@p54A95391.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 18:01.14 | JeffM2501 | wer you .net or .net 2003 ? |
| 18:01.47 | JeffM2501 | cristi, grumber did the changes from bzedit 1.6.2 to 1.6.3 long long ago |
| 18:01.51 | Grumbler | golly.....i think .net 2003.....whatever was the most wiz-bang at the time |
| 18:01.55 | PvtMalarkey | Why do the developers don't place a "Register"-Link on bzflag.org? |
| 18:02.20 | JeffM2501 | PvtMalarkey, patches welcome |
| 18:02.25 | PvtMalarkey | :-) |
| 18:02.29 | JeffM2501 | Grumbler, well that is the better of the 2 to make. |
| 18:02.44 | PvtMalarkey | Main feature: global logins, but where to register for that? |
| 18:02.52 | JeffM2501 | my.bzflag.org/bb/ |
| 18:03.13 | PvtMalarkey | This site was mentioned as "forum" |
| 18:03.13 | cristi | yes |
| 18:03.20 | JeffM2501 | bingo |
| 18:03.32 | cristi | I am not registered :-) |
| 18:03.33 | *** join/#bzflag Birdie (~birdie@d54C34D0B.access.telenet.be) |
| 18:03.36 | PvtMalarkey | They use the forum login as bzflag server login? |
| 18:03.41 | JeffM2501 | bingo |
| 18:03.49 | cristi | lol :)) |
| 18:04.09 | PvtMalarkey | wicked. I like the tracks, drawn on the ground. I dislike the slow animation of SW |
| 18:05.00 | PvtMalarkey | ...does it depend on my rendering engine? (SuSE Linux 9.1, NVidia graphics-whatever OpenGL active) |
| 18:05.08 | JeffM2501 | it's setable on a per server bassis |
| 18:05.14 | JeffM2501 | no |
| 18:05.24 | PvtMalarkey | Yeah, slow SW, wicked too |
| 18:05.26 | JeffM2501 | each server can set the speed of the shots and stuff. |
| 18:05.57 | PvtMalarkey | I know from older releases and some "cheaters", slowing down driving an shooting :-) |
| 18:06.12 | JeffM2501 | umm ok |
| 18:06.25 | PvtMalarkey | But maps with many round corners, circles and spheres are quite annoying, thought it was the same problem |
| 18:07.49 | PvtMalarkey | Afterall, nice to see some maps again, they moved to 2.0 and left no notice, I thought they were down. Keep rockin or whatever...THX for help |
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| 18:10.34 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03bryjen * 10bzflag/src/bzfs/ (5 files): adapt the bools that keep hostbans from being rechecked every loop to delay checking until after the token is verified |
| 18:11.31 | Grumbler | wow, adaptive bools............i just thought they could be modified :) |
| 18:13.27 | bryjen | trinary logic. true, false, and maybe ;) |
| 18:14.12 | Grumbler | trinary....next thing you know they will go fuzzy |
| 18:26.21 | Noodle-sensei | the cheese, gromit! we've forgotten the cheese! |
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| 18:53.02 | Thumper_ | SportChick: ping |
| 18:55.35 | Grumbler | The Space Between - Zero7 - When it Falls |
| 18:56.39 | orchid | ooh |
| 18:57.45 | bryjen | ? |
| 18:57.52 | Noodle-sensei | doesn't everybody? :-) |
| 18:58.07 | Grumbler | friday afternoon |
| 18:58.15 | Grumbler | a cool breeze |
| 18:58.17 | Noodle-sensei | well, they aren't my _favorite_, but i like them |
| 18:58.43 | Grumbler | hot tea and 07.....slippling away |
| 18:58.48 | Noodle-sensei | hehe |
| 18:59.00 | Noodle-sensei | don't go too far :-) |
| 19:15.42 | gina | why do I get server not found all the time? |
| 19:16.04 | gina | & bzflag hangs afterwards, need kill -9 |
| 19:18.30 | Birdie | ooooooh:) |
| 19:18.34 | gina | aaaaah |
| 19:18.41 | Birdie | now i know for sure you are from belgium:) |
| 19:18.47 | gina | heh |
| 19:19.06 | gina | does not answer my question though |
| 19:19.38 | Birdie | i'm not that technic mind:( so i hope others are able to answer |
| 19:21.30 | JeffM2501 | it says that when joining a game? or listing servers? |
| 19:25.30 | gina | nboth |
| 19:25.48 | gina | nfirst joining, then try to get list server - hangs |
| 19:25.50 | gina | nnnnn |
| 19:26.01 | Pimpinella | SportChick: pimpi.dyndns.org:5154 ,probably the connection timed out or something, since the system load is >2 currently |
| 19:26.28 | Pimpinella | ah, just finished |
| 19:26.32 | gina | mmm works again |
| 19:26.54 | Pimpinella | try now, should work |
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| 19:27.04 | sgk284 | hello |
| 19:29.19 | brlcad | http://personal.r2-d2.cz/kaminky/0033/spiderman.jpg |
| 19:29.30 | brlcad | JeffM2501: nope, not yet |
| 19:29.35 | JeffM2501 | damn |
| 19:30.05 | gina | lol brlcad |
| 19:30.13 | sgk284 | ~brlcad++ |
| 19:30.22 | gina | ~brlcad++ |
| 19:31.06 | sgk284 | bryjen, ping |
| 19:31.27 | bryjen | pong |
| 19:31.36 | orchid | bryjen pong |
| 19:31.49 | sgk284 | err with that last commit, is antiban working? :) |
| 19:31.55 | bryjen | orchid ping |
| 19:32.19 | brlcad | bryjen: ping |
| 19:32.28 | orchid | | . |
| 19:32.35 | bryjen | sgk284: antiban on forum accounts against hostbans works |
| 19:32.46 | bryjen | . | |
| 19:32.47 | sgk284 | awesome:) |
| 19:32.54 | sgk284 | ~bryjen++ |
| 19:33.21 | bryjen | brlcad: ngpo |
| 19:34.57 | bryjen | antiban on local accounts is untested. i suspect it may not work. :( |
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| 19:35.43 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o TimRiker] by ChanServ |
| 19:36.12 | bryjen | at least during initial connection. because there's no opportunity to /identify |
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| 19:38.40 | SportChick | Thumper_: pong |
| 19:38.47 | Grumbler | hey Pimpinella you ever try that -cache option and get a feel if it helps with bandwidth issues? |
| 19:43.34 | bryjen | brlcad: http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/bzflag/bzflag/src/bzflag/GuidedMissleStrategy.cxx?r1=1.22&r2=1.23 |
| 19:44.01 | bryjen | was there a reason you switched it from "can't kill myself" to "can't kill anyone" ? |
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| 19:45.39 | brlcad | bryjen: the hack was to avoid self kills.. the activation time was meant to me literally just that .. so nobody until it's active |
| 19:45.52 | brlcad | s/me /be / |
| 19:46.37 | sgk284 | how about since GM can't reco we just dont let guided missiles kill the owner |
| 19:46.44 | sgk284 | :) |
| 19:47.12 | bryjen | activation time was a requested feature, or just sweeping the hack under the rug? ;) |
| 19:47.26 | brlcad | actually the reason I added that was so I could config a map that wouldn't activate a missle for several seconds |
| 19:47.33 | sgk284 | is there any scenario that a user can legitimately kill themself with gm? |
| 19:47.40 | brlcad | just happened to cover the hack too |
| 19:47.42 | sgk284 | brlcad: lol |
| 19:48.02 | bryjen | sgk284: increase the GM's turn rate, and it can circle back on you |
| 19:48.05 | brlcad | sgk284: yes, there are several legitimate situations |
| 19:48.21 | bryjen | or shot through teleporters |
| 19:48.22 | brlcad | modify tank speed and you can outrun a gm |
| 19:48.44 | sgk284 | hrm okay fair enough:) |
| 19:49.52 | brlcad | probably does deserve a separate variable for self-invincibility |
| 19:49.59 | brlcad | like t-s's patch |
| 19:50.06 | brlcad | but he's got two vars there.. no need for two, imo |
| 19:50.43 | SportChick | Pimpinella: ping |
| 19:51.11 | brlcad | SportChick: ping |
| 19:53.00 | gina | brlcad: pang! |
| 19:53.24 | brlcad | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:54.59 | SportChick | brlcad: pong |
| 19:56.21 | brlcad | SportChick: bonk |
| 19:59.53 | SportChick | brlcad: bind |
| 19:59.59 | SportChick | bink! :) |
| 20:00.12 | gina | mmmm a guy is fingering me |
| 20:00.39 | gina | with ctcp |
| 20:00.55 | SportChick | Pimpinella: your map's got a bug |
| 20:03.54 | *** join/#bzflag kitchen (~grue@kitchen.user) |
| 20:04.24 | bryjen | eep. don't ask guu to lookup bonk in her dictionary |
| 20:04.26 | *** join/#bzflag grue (~451ae3bd@webchat.bzflag.bz) |
| 20:04.46 | *** part/#bzflag grue (~451ae3bd@webchat.bzflag.bz) |
| 20:04.46 | bryjen | we're being surrounded! someone turn on the light! |
| 20:04.48 | Grumbler | gina, just remember to finger back........with your finger of choice |
| 20:05.11 | cods | http://www.mskplanet.com/numanumaye.htm |
| 20:05.24 | gina | Grumbler: i did :P |
| 20:07.34 | brlcad | cods: that's pretty cool |
| 20:07.40 | Grumbler | hmmm.......brlcad "snorts, looks for the sink, doesn't move"............. ==> did you kill someone again and get blood all over the place and are now surrounded by the cops |
| 20:07.51 | brlcad | Chestal: which movie? |
| 20:07.55 | Chestal | brlcad: Samaria |
| 20:08.02 | gina | Grumbler: he did move |
| 20:08.09 | Chestal | I want to see it, question is, wheterh I want to see it today |
| 20:08.10 | Grumbler | err, try house of flying dragons |
| 20:08.23 | brlcad | Grumbler: =) |
| 20:08.30 | brlcad | dang.. time to move again :) |
| 20:08.57 | gina | need to recompile this kernel, you see |
| 20:09.11 | *** part/#bzflag kitchen (~grue@kitchen.user) |
| 20:12.58 | bryjen | notice he didn't say "hear" |
| 20:13.08 | Chestal | oops, forgot to switch of my webcam again |
| 20:13.12 | Chestal | s/of/off/ |
| 20:14.11 | brlcad | :) |
| 20:15.59 | Grumbler | haha....its killing me |
| 20:16.10 | brlcad | the grue? :) |
| 20:16.33 | gina | the webcam? |
| 20:16.37 | gina | the song? |
| 20:16.42 | gina | seeing chestal? |
| 20:16.42 | Chestal | my workout: http://www.marok.org/Arte/Mix/rocky_is_back.swf |
| 20:19.18 | brlcad | mm.. ham |
| 20:25.55 | Grumbler | hate to say it, but numanumaye takes the work out.. |
| 20:26.31 | Grumbler | its the eyebrow twitch that puts it over the top |
| 20:26.48 | brlcad | hehe :) |
| 20:31.09 | orange | ugh, who is running the vulgar-named server? I can keep my kids off the servers that aren't kid-friendly, but that one just hits you in the face, and I don't want to explain to my 7-year-old son what a mo****fu**** is |
| 20:31.55 | gina | banlist needed for bad server names |
| 20:32.56 | *** join/#bzflag sussudio (~sussudio@sussudio.user) |
| 20:33.13 | brlcad | there's already a banlist for public servers |
| 20:33.17 | sussudio | ~bzflist |
| 20:33.23 | sussudio | :-| |
| 20:33.47 | brlcad | it was explicit in the list server so they never list, but that was modified to be an apache filter instead |
| 20:33.48 | orange | odd it doesn't show up on that list |
| 20:33.51 | sussudio | * Dns unable to resolve http://list.bzflag.bz/db |
| 20:34.37 | orange | oh, there it is, 68.86... |
| 20:38.47 | orange | speaking of filters, brlcad, did you see my note about the filter on antescher filtering out the word "rules"? I thought that one was funny :-) |
| 20:39.14 | Pimpinella | SportChick: you won't have fun playing the map |
| 20:39.49 | Pimpinella | it's my home box, not my server |
| 20:40.41 | Pimpinella | upstream is only 160kbps here and lag will be increible |
| 20:41.12 | Pimpinella | it's ok for having look on the map though |
| 20:41.27 | Pimpinella | The spawn bug, yeah. |
| 20:42.05 | SportChick | Pimpinella: was that spawn thing intentional or a bug? |
| 20:42.33 | Pimpinella | it's not my map, it's legoguy's ;) |
| 20:42.48 | SportChick | Pimpinella: we noticed that if a flag is ctf, you spawn on base and all is well. but if you spawn elsewhere - no can do- We played with about 8 people, it was fun |
| 20:43.27 | SportChick | if it was intentional, then the rejoin time on the server needs to be really long - like 5 minutes or something -otherwise folks wil just quit/rejoin |
| 20:43.39 | SportChick | but lots of folks just hated that feature, so I'd consider changing it |
| 20:43.57 | Pimpinella | iirc the server determines a possible spawn position and checks if it is allowed to spawn there, and if not choose another position |
| 20:45.18 | Pimpinella | after some time (and no success finding an appropriate spawning position) the server just drops you if it's good or not |
| 20:46.38 | tea|tree | hola @ all :o) |
| 20:48.35 | *** join/#bzflag Silverfox (~SilverFox@68-116-46-11.or.charter.com) |
| 20:49.18 | Silverfox | If I am NOT using a local userdb, how do I make a group have the SAME permissions as LOCAL.ADMIN ? |
| 20:51.10 | Grumbler | its still funny even after looping forever..... |
| 20:53.10 | brlcad | woah.. |
| 20:53.16 | brlcad | server just crash?? |
| 20:53.18 | sussudio | . |
| 20:53.20 | sussudio | yes |
| 20:53.28 | brlcad | blasted |
| 20:55.33 | orange | brlcad: I typed "/flaghistory" |
| 20:56.56 | brlcad | my groups aren't working right either for some reason.. i added you to ADMIN, but you got no permissions.. |
| 20:57.39 | Silverfox | brlcad, try LOCAL.ADMIN |
| 20:57.52 | brlcad | ahh, that's right.. |
| 20:57.53 | *** join/#bzflag HeadCrash (~rich@dsl092-072-044.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net) |
| 20:58.01 | brlcad | f'ing dag..nab argh |
| 20:58.46 | *** join/#bzflag Blue_Eyes (~fly_for_y@host42-100.pool80116.interbusiness.it) |
| 20:58.47 | *** join/#bzflag SilverFox (SilverFox@68-116-47-254.or.charter.com) |
| 20:58.58 | brlcad | orange: yep, it was you :) |
| 20:59.00 | brlcad | Player orange [12]: /flaghistory |
| 20:59.00 | brlcad | Segmentation fault (core dumped) |
| 20:59.11 | orange | sorry :-( |
| 20:59.20 | Blue_Eyes | hi all |
| 20:59.22 | orange | one guy got three ST in a row, or close |
| 20:59.26 | brlcad | heh, i'm not shooting the messenger |
| 21:00.43 | Grumbler | thats my job..... |
| 21:09.30 | *** join/#bzflag mozul (~KBC18135@ct550.aero.org) |
| 21:11.09 | mozul | hello, is there something different about when bzflag 2.0 sets up the video card at the start of the program versus when you change the display mode in the display options? Because I have mine set to 1024x768x16 and on start it changes to this, but the display ends up in the upper left. |
| 21:11.41 | Grumbler | happens to me as well......just to let you know its not just you |
| 21:11.49 | mozul | To get it fixed I have to go to the display options change it to something else and then back to 1024x768x16. To get it to go to full screen. Is this a bzflag problem or my video card or monitor? |
| 21:12.48 | mozul | i think it did it on 1.10 too. |
| 21:13.25 | mozul | Grumbler thanks, what video card do you have? |
| 21:13.42 | Grumbler | nvidia, running windows xp sp2 |
| 21:13.58 | brlcad | okay, he's not willing to cooperate |
| 21:14.04 | mozul | me too which nvidia? |
| 21:14.12 | brlcad | been a while since we've had to ban a server.. |
| 21:14.13 | Grumbler | fx5950 |
| 21:14.23 | brlcad | ~bzflist |
| 21:14.41 | mozul | Mines a geforce 2mx not sure the model. |
| 21:14.50 | brlcad | ~seen Darth Vader |
| 21:14.56 | ibot | i haven't seen 'darth vader', brlcad |
| 21:15.05 | brlcad | ~seen "Darth_Vader" |
| 21:15.06 | ibot | brlcad: i haven't seen '"darth_vader"' |
| 21:15.27 | brlcad | anyone have an ip on his client? |
| 21:15.33 | Grumbler | ? |
| 21:15.39 | orchid | ~seen DarthValou |
| 21:15.40 | ibot | darthvalou is currently on #bzleague (6h 48m 47s) |
| 21:15.43 | Thumper_ | ip for who? |
| 21:15.51 | brlcad | he's the operator for the server with the profanity |
| 21:16.39 | orchid | ~seen darth_mall |
| 21:16.40 | ibot | darth_mall is currently on #bzflag #tacobeam. Has said a total of 114 messages. Is idling for 1h 14m 25s |
| 21:17.38 | Grumbler | maybe a group should start up their own list server to allow more vocubular freedom........ |
| 21:17.51 | gina | something wrong I'm still on top of anthem |
| 21:17.58 | gina | antesher |
| 21:19.18 | mozul | You can't eliminate a server from the list server? |
| 21:20.00 | Grumbler | mozul, i think brlcad is heading towards that ban |
| 21:20.18 | Grumbler | he is just in the process of "due process" |
| 21:20.32 | brlcad | mozul: yes we can -- just more of a pain |
| 21:20.42 | mozul | ok seems like he is on comcast cable. |
| 21:20.44 | brlcad | yes, trying to get him to respond |
| 21:22.13 | *** join/#bzflag gina (~gigi@33.1-200-80.adsl.skynet.be) |
| 21:24.41 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03brlcad * 10admin/master-bans.txt: List server profanity (Darth Vader); attempted to communicate with the operator several times regarding the public message, unresponsive. |
| 21:25.54 | bryjen | master-bans bans servers from the list? |
| 21:26.25 | brlcad | no, that's him |
| 21:27.20 | brlcad | if he's intentionally trying to cause trouble, then that involves him as well |
| 21:27.32 | *** join/#bzflag JamesAmI (~d8a78fd6@webchat.bzflag.bz) |
| 21:27.55 | bryjen | teehee. masterban is on by default. did you just ban him from his own server? :) |
| 21:28.04 | JamesAmI | Hi |
| 21:28.06 | brlcad | yes |
| 21:28.12 | orchid | hello JamesAmI |
| 21:29.04 | JamesAmI | I've got a question, on the linux client, is there anyway to enable switching of programs. |
| 21:29.08 | JamesAmI | ? |
| 21:29.23 | JamesAmI | or is mine just weird. |
| 21:29.49 | Tupone | what you mean? |
| 21:30.33 | *** join/#bzflag trepan (~trepan@trepan.user) |
| 21:30.37 | JamesAmI | in bzflag, my mouse will not move outside the window, can't alt tab... |
| 21:30.50 | orchid | JamesAmI: you can run it in a window |
| 21:30.55 | Tupone | JamesAmI: where have you got it? |
| 21:31.41 | Tupone | or what bzflag --version says? |
| 21:31.42 | JamesAmI | yes, I can f1 to a window, but moust wont leave... |
| 21:32.05 | Tupone | go to option -> input menu -> confine mouse |
| 21:32.36 | JamesAmI | ahhh, thanks. I knew it had to be simple. |
| 21:33.08 | JamesAmI | sweet. thanks! (duh) |
| 21:33.30 | JamesAmI | who is into map building? |
| 21:34.20 | sussudio | cartographers |
| 21:36.34 | JamesAmI | Well, thanks for the help. |
| 21:36.35 | JamesAmI | bye |
| 21:36.43 | Grumbler | ~fishslap sussudio for being a wize cracker |
| 21:36.45 | ibot | ACTION slaps sussudio up side the head with a wet fish for being a wize cracker |
| 21:38.11 | Grumbler | ok that calls for dictionary |
| 21:38.18 | Grumbler | ~dict itchyologists |
| 21:38.26 | sussudio | ~dict itchyology |
| 21:38.34 | Grumbler | ~spell itchyologists |
| 21:38.36 | ibot | possible spellings for itchyologists: ichthyologists ichthyologist's archaeologists archeologist's technologists ethologists ethnologists ichthyologist archaeologist's technologist's ethologist's etymologists oncologists |
| 21:38.36 | sussudio | ibot: you're stupid |
| 21:38.37 | ibot | ACTION scratches his head |
| 21:39.04 | Grumbler | ~dict ichthyologists |
| 21:39.11 | Grumbler | ~dict ichthyologist |
| 21:39.26 | Grumbler | ah, there we go....nice reference sussudio |
| 21:39.29 | *** join/#bzflag blast007_ (~blast@dialup-4.254.85.244.Dial1.Chicago1.Level3.net) |
| 21:40.01 | *** join/#bzflag gina (~gigi@79.14-200-80.adsl.skynet.be) |
| 21:40.37 | sussudio | that would go well in a mafia joke... "i bet he always wanted to be an itchylogist... he can study the fishes all the wants now" |
| 21:43.48 | *** join/#bzflag |zongo| (~zongo@lsn-boi-catv-c114-p158.vtx.ch) |
| 21:44.20 | gina | ? |
| 21:44.52 | gina | how so? |
| 21:44.53 | sussudio | gina: the one that was harassing you on antescher |
| 21:45.05 | gina | i dont kick people easily |
| 21:45.21 | gina | i never had before even :p |
| 21:45.53 | orange | Tupone: is the confine mouse action something that can be bound to a key? |
| 21:46.06 | orange | I know there are config options that aren't exposed in the UI, which is why I ask. |
| 21:46.39 | retro | define "can". Easily, I dunno. However, I'm sure a little bit of code could do that. |
| 21:46.48 | retro | :-) |
| 21:47.28 | orange | well, I meant as it stands today |
| 21:51.00 | brlcad | Nidhoggr: ping |
| 21:52.23 | gina | he gets irritating |
| 21:56.06 | retro | brlcad, I think Nid said yesterday he was gonna be out for the day. He posted his sidekick e-mail address though. Is it urgent? |
| 21:56.24 | brlcad | nah, I took a leap of faith |
| 21:56.30 | brlcad | and it worked, so no need any more ;) |
| 21:56.30 | retro | 'k |
| 22:00.42 | sgk284 | brlcad, care to elaborate? :) |
| 22:05.02 | brlcad | sgk284: not really :) |
| 22:05.09 | sgk284 | k |
| 22:05.39 | brlcad | it's just a firewall |
| 22:06.21 | sgk284 | oh, lol then nevermind :) thought it was referring to something else |
| 22:07.33 | sgk284 | this: http://www.perseus-os.org/ |
| 22:07.35 | sgk284 | ww |
| 22:07.44 | sgk284 | ~ww |
| 22:07.45 | ibot | Tee hee .. idiot. |
| 22:07.51 | sgk284 | heh |
| 22:09.21 | retro | Is there a place that documents all of ibot's features? |
| 22:11.41 | purple_cow | what's the range of 'shininess' in a material? |
| 22:12.43 | purple_cow | (i'm assuming that maps to specularity?) |
| 22:13.40 | trepan | man glMaterial: Only values in the range [0,128] are accepted |
| 22:14.33 | Grumbler | retro, http://blootbot.sourceforge.net/ |
| 22:15.07 | retro | tanks |
| 22:15.25 | Grumbler | well, its out of date, but it might lead you to where you want to go |
| 22:16.50 | TimRiker | retro: the source? the help covers much of it. |
| 22:16.56 | TimRiker | ibot: blootbot |
| 22:16.57 | ibot | hmm... blootbot is an IRC bot written in perl decended from infobot. Hosted on SF. Patches welcome, submit on SF or mailto:Tim@Rikers.org, or http://blootbot.sourceforge.net/,. I am a blootbot |
| 22:17.47 | retro | is this channel running 1.2.0, or the latest cvs? |
| 22:19.20 | TimRiker | retro: apt/ibot/jbot/purl are all the same process running cvs. |
| 22:19.45 | retro | ok,thanks. I'll download the latest cvs source and start reading... |
| 22:19.58 | retro | after I finish fixing etherboot make files... |
| 22:20.03 | TimRiker | =) |
| 22:20.18 | TimRiker | ~make ehterboot |
| 22:20.21 | ibot | make: *** No rule to make target `ehterboot'. Stop. |
| 22:20.55 | retro | well, you did spell it wrong. Oddly, that seems to be most of the problems in the etherboot makefiles. :) |
| 22:23.19 | brlcad | heh, i like this idea =) |
| 22:23.20 | brlcad | http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?t=2890 |
| 22:23.45 | brlcad | first real good gameplay mode suggestion in a while :) |
| 22:24.13 | *** join/#bzflag _bubbles_ (~nadic666@Toronto-HSE-ppp3943175.sympatico.ca) |
| 22:24.20 | Grumbler | yep, it is a good idea |
| 22:24.42 | Grumbler | of course i am still numanumayè-ing, so what do i know |
| 22:24.50 | Pizbit_ | Yep, I like that one too:) |
| 22:25.01 | sgk284 | ditto |
| 22:25.09 | brlcad | Grumbler: haha |
| 22:27.03 | retro | yeah, that _IS_ a good idea. I however, am probably not a good person to play that mode. I play rogue for a reason. :) |
| 22:27.24 | retro | though I keep trying ctf once in a while to work on my teamwork skills. |
| 22:27.56 | Pizbit_ | retro: Well, if you're attacking... |
| 22:28.11 | Pizbit | Get away with slightly less teamwork heh |
| 22:30.25 | Tupone | brlcad: FlagHistory::get is not immune to stack overflow |
| 22:30.25 | bryjen | !decks |
| 22:30.26 | guu | http://bzgirl.bzflag.org/decks.html |
| 22:30.29 | bryjen | tonight? |
| 22:30.31 | |zongo| | fun match anyone? |
| 22:30.32 | retro | actually, sometimes on secretplace, a few teammates will hunt in tandem. Very effective and impressive. |
| 22:30.36 | Tupone | hehe for me yeah |
| 22:30.44 | *** join/#bzflag Silver[a] (SilverFox@68-116-47-254.or.charter.com) |
| 22:31.37 | orchid | |zongo|: hmm |
| 22:31.39 | purple_cow | is it assumed that a material section will appear before any object that uses it? |
| 22:32.08 | |zongo| | orchid: yes? :) |
| 22:32.23 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r6667 10bzedit/scripts/BZFlag/ (Material.py Reader.py): progress on importing materials |
| 22:33.07 | orchid | |zongo|: "you cannot play. You have to study" I was just told :P |
| 22:33.25 | |zongo| | orchid: ouch...:( |
| 22:33.45 | |zongo| | orchid: gl :) |
| 22:34.29 | orchid | what server are you on z? |
| 22:38.03 | *** join/#bzflag SilverFox (SilverFox@68-116-47-254.or.charter.com) |
| 22:39.44 | *** join/#bzflag blast007 (~blast007@dialup-4.254.85.244.Dial1.Chicago1.Level3.net) |
| 22:39.56 | |zongo| | i need a 4th player |
| 22:40.06 | brlcad | Tupone: hmm? |
| 22:40.07 | |zongo| | we are at ducati 59156 |
| 22:40.27 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03sgk284 * 10bzflag/src/bzfs/Permissions.h: Fix some redundancy with isVerified() and isAccessVerified() |
| 22:40.41 | Tupone | no problem :) |
| 22:41.07 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03sgk284 * 10bzflag/src/bzfs/Permissions.cxx: Fix some redundancy with isVerified() and isAccessVerified() |
| 22:41.20 | brlcad | i assume you meant something related to /flaghistory crashing the server? |
| 22:41.37 | brlcad | is that fixed in the latest? |
| 22:41.41 | bryjen | strings and arrary aren't usually passed as params, no? |
| 22:41.48 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03sgk284 * 10bzflag/src/bzfs/commands.cxx: Fix some redundancy with isVerified() and isAccessVerified() |
| 22:41.55 | bryjen | s/and array/or arrays/ |
| 22:41.56 | sgk284 | with a stock 2.0 build /flaghistory will crash the server :/ |
| 22:42.09 | brlcad | so it's fixed |
| 22:42.17 | sgk284 | indeed |
| 22:42.22 | Grumbler | my a-hee, my a-whoo, my a-haaa, my a-haha |
| 22:42.24 | sgk284 | for a while |
| 22:42.25 | brlcad | mkay |
| 22:42.31 | brlcad | Grumbler: =) |
| 22:43.05 | Grumbler | laughter is the best medicine |
| 22:43.10 | *** part/#bzflag mozul (~KBC18135@ct550.aero.org) |
| 22:43.44 | sgk284 | just on a side note, hostban and antiban now work again in large part due to bryjen (~bryjen++), but hostbanning takes way too long... |
| 22:43.53 | sgk284 | i can send like 10 lines of text before it kicks me |
| 22:43.54 | sgk284 | :/ |
| 22:44.13 | sgk284 | just something to keep in mind if anyone gets any ideas |
| 22:44.32 | bryjen | really? it booted SC pretty quick during testing |
| 22:44.46 | sgk284 | hrmm maybe my hostname just took a while to lookup |
| 22:44.56 | brlcad | someone fix the UDP problems? |
| 22:45.21 | sgk284 | i used bzadmin and while the global auth stuff was going on i was typing then once the ncurses window opened it all sent then kicked me |
| 22:45.22 | bryjen | hmm, FlagHistory.{h,cxx} haven't changed since 2.0 |
| 22:45.46 | brlcad | i've got a slew of udp failure messages from slews of different clients |
| 22:46.01 | brlcad | and there was the user reporting he couldn't connect to a current bzfs at all |
| 22:46.41 | sgk284 | bryjen, i know DTRemenak fixed flaghistory, the problem may not have resided in those files :/ |
| 22:47.13 | sgk284 | iirc it was due to something that was being called and put into a char array that was too small |
| 22:47.29 | sgk284 | its been a while though |
| 22:47.40 | DTRemenak | I did not! I just looked at it long enough to eliminate all of the probable sources of error, then I gave up :) |
| 22:47.43 | bryjen | yeah, found it. commands.cxx rev 2.2 |
| 22:48.16 | *** join/#bzflag blast007__ (~blast007@dialup-4.254.85.244.Dial1.Chicago1.Level3.net) |
| 22:48.18 | sgk284 | DTRemenak, lol |
| 22:48.33 | sussudio | damn. almost 8 minutes long |
| 22:48.48 | bryjen | DTR's edit was a check for NULL playerData->player |
| 22:48.48 | DTRemenak | hm, or maybe I did fix it |
| 22:49.12 | sgk284 | DTRemenak, since your changes i havent heard any complaints on secretplace |
| 22:49.18 | sgk284 | heh |
| 22:49.18 | DTRemenak | cool :) |
| 22:49.24 | sgk284 | ~DTRemenak++ |
| 22:49.57 | bryjen | DTR: weren't there several like that? |
| 22:50.01 | DTRemenak | wow. seriously, I have no recollection of making that commit. |
| 22:50.06 | DTRemenak | yeah |
| 22:50.20 | sgk284 | lol dtr, do you remember our conversation? |
| 22:50.22 | DTRemenak | I fixed two or three individually and then did the rest in a batch |
| 22:50.38 | sgk284 | *about the flaghistory problem |
| 22:50.40 | DTRemenak | yeah, I remember that...I also remember giving up because I couldn't figure out what was wrong :) |
| 22:50.45 | sgk284 | heh |
| 22:50.58 | *** join/#bzflag xeroc (xeroc@bofh-noc.de) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 22:50.58 | DTRemenak | maybe I got back to it after a class or something |
| 22:51.16 | DTRemenak | bryjen, look at FlagHistory.cxx |
| 22:51.27 | DTRemenak | there are 10 flags max stored, max length of three |
| 22:51.38 | DTRemenak | 30 chars plus 16 plus 2 is << 128 :) |
| 22:52.06 | bryjen | left-shift 128? |
| 22:52.39 | DTRemenak | heh, too much physics and not enough cs. much less than. |
| 22:52.54 | retro | heh. took me a moment to realize what you meant too. :) |
| 22:53.08 | bryjen | and 128 is some magic number? |
| 22:53.13 | DTRemenak | yes, it is |
| 22:53.20 | DTRemenak | MessageLen is 128 |
| 22:53.32 | DTRemenak | the char arrays are almost all inited to MessageLen |
| 22:54.55 | DTRemenak | three cheers for magic numbers :) |
| 22:55.07 | bryjen | 42! |
| 22:56.58 | DTRemenak | there's nothing _magic_ about 42. it's just the answer. |
| 22:57.06 | DTRemenak | answers are results, not magic :) |
| 22:57.24 | Noodle-sensei | 42! |
| 22:57.29 | Pizbit | 42! |
| 22:57.59 | DTRemenak | 42! |
| 22:58.29 | bryjen | if your method of arriving at the answer is sufficiently complex, it will be indistinguishable from magic |
| 22:58.52 | DTRemenak | nice :) |
| 22:59.09 | DTRemenak | just murder both Clarke and Adams while you're at it :) |
| 22:59.47 | Grumbler | thats how most software engineers keep their jobs.....magic ;) |
| 23:00.25 | Blue_Eyes | nite all |
| 23:00.28 | *** part/#bzflag Blue_Eyes (~fly_for_y@host42-100.pool80116.interbusiness.it) |
| 23:00.47 | sgk284 | 42! >> 42 |
| 23:01.26 | bryjen | orchid: by force? |
| 23:01.40 | orchid | if neccessary |
| 23:01.41 | Grumbler | orchid is invading.....orchid is invading...... |
| 23:01.51 | Grumbler | my a-hee, my a-whoo, my a-haaa, my a-haha |
| 23:02.31 | bryjen | beware the gover-nator! |
| 23:03.46 | Tupone | you should add the callsing length, but that has space for up to 80 chars |
| 23:04.37 | sussudio | yeah, it's just a bummer that you can visit any time, but you can never leave. |
| 23:13.43 | sgk284 | is there anyway to verfiy a user password with bzbb from the server without having the server generate a request for a token? |
| 23:13.57 | sgk284 | just dont want to do it the long way if there is a shorter way:) |
| 23:14.42 | sgk284 | i.e. a user does /ghost "SGK284" testing , bzfs needs to verify that |
| 23:14.53 | sgk284 | right now /ghost is broken for global auth |
| 23:33.02 | sgk284 | ~bzflist |
| 23:33.22 | sgk284 | ~bzfquery bzflag.secretplace.us:5255 |
| 23:34.01 | sgk284 | hrmm at least its not jsut me |
| 23:34.08 | sgk284 | SportChick, ping |
| 23:34.46 | SportChick | sgk284: pong |
| 23:35.52 | sgk284 | secretplace down? |
| 23:36.42 | SportChick | it wasn't a second ago |
| 23:36.46 | sgk284 | hrmm okay |
| 23:36.52 | SportChick | no, I can see it |
| 23:36.54 | SportChick | and get in |
| 23:37.05 | SportChick | about 20+ people there |
| 23:39.11 | sgk284 | ~bzfquery bzflag.secretplace.us:5255 |
| 23:44.58 | *** join/#bzflag Silver[a] (SilverFox@68-116-47-254.or.charter.com) |
| 23:56.45 | *** join/#bzflag Sir_Lance_A_Lot (~8d97dd77@webchat.bzflag.bz) |
| 23:56.51 | Sir_Lance_A_Lot | yo about the serverlist |
| 23:56.56 | Sir_Lance_A_Lot | what is the default for bzfs |
| 23:56.58 | Sir_Lance_A_Lot | 2.0 |
| 23:57.21 | bryjen | Sir_Lance_A_Lot: you shouldn't need to specify one, the default is builtin |
| 23:57.55 | Sir_Lance_A_Lot | this is the debugging line i get |
| 23:58.03 | Sir_Lance_A_Lot | Got line: "<b>Warning</b>: fsockopen(): unable to connect to camelot-main.serve |
| 23:58.16 | Sir_Lance_A_Lot | oops thats not the whole line |
| 23:58.24 | Sir_Lance_A_Lot | game.com:5154 in <b>/var/www/bzfls.php</b> on line <b>411</b><br />" |
| 23:59.36 | bryjen | huh? did you use -publiclist ? if so, don't. |
| 23:59.45 | Sir_Lance_A_Lot | o its commented |
| 23:59.53 | Sir_Lance_A_Lot | no* its commented |
