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| 00:12.59 | Legolas | hi |
| 00:13.20 | Legolas | so the release is supposed to be today is there any proof? |
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| 00:15.16 | Legolas | is there anyone here??? |
| 00:16.04 | DTRemenak | boy, he's a patient one, ain't he... |
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| 00:16.14 | blast007 | :) |
| 00:19.10 | mozul | one thing I noticed on the 36 version last night, is that if I set the video mode to a smaller size (1024x768) than what I normally use (1164*8??) sometimes when the program starts it is only in the upper left corner. I have to change video modes to something else and then back again to get it fixed. Is this a BZ issue that is being worked on before 2.0? (it exists in 1.10.x too) |
| 00:19.48 | mozul | Or is it a videocard issue on my end? |
| 00:20.24 | blast007 | might be a config file issue |
| 00:20.51 | blast007 | i've seen things like that when "set geometry" is specified |
| 00:21.18 | mozul | it only occurs "sometimes" Ill check my config file when I get home. |
| 00:22.45 | TimRiker | DTRemenak: thanx for the email. I copied you on the reply. |
| 00:22.54 | DTRemenak | got it, thanks |
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| 00:43.10 | CIA-2 | BZFlag: 03dtremenak * 10bzflag/src/ (bzflag/bzflag.cxx common/KeyManager.cxx): unbind "roam rotate stop" as part of the config file upgrader. should fix people's problems with erratic observer controls. |
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| 01:06.06 | wegstar | !weather 94030 |
| 01:06.11 | guu | wegstar: The current temperature in Millbrae, California is 54°F (4:56 PM PST on January 12, 2005). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: 41°F. Pressure: 30.24 in (1024 hPa). Visibility: 10.0 miles (16.1 kilometers). UV: 0 out of 12 |
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| 01:06.41 | wegstar | I haven't seen ping in a long, long time :-D |
| 01:06.47 | wegstar | Hi thumper |
| 01:06.50 | Thumper_ | hi |
| 01:07.05 | Thumper_ | I just changed my nick from AftRburnR... |
| 01:07.11 | wegstar | oh... |
| 01:07.13 | wegstar | ok |
| 01:07.17 | Thumper_ | so I've been lurking :) |
| 01:07.30 | Thumper_ | Thumper is taken though :/ |
| 01:07.36 | wegstar | ah |
| 01:08.14 | Thumper_ | are nicks case sensitive? |
| 01:08.28 | wegstar | I don't know... |
| 01:08.33 | Thumper_ | brb |
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| 01:16.43 | wegstar | (work)-->(home)-->(wine)+(hotdog)-->(flag)+(audiocd) :-) |
| 01:18.31 | shorty114 | Thumper_: nicks aren't case sensitive |
| 01:18.47 | shorty114 | shorty114 is the same as sHoRtY114 |
| 01:19.12 | wegstar | ok... |
| 01:23.44 | shorty114 | just answering Thumper_'s question |
| 01:23.51 | wegstar | yeah |
| 01:23.55 | wegstar | I was wondering to.. |
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| 01:26.15 | Thumper_ | thx shorty114 |
| 01:26.46 | wegstar | hi pointblank, or lingling.. :) |
| 01:27.11 | PointBlank | >.>;; |
| 01:27.21 | wegstar | ... |
| 01:27.42 | shorty114 | np Thumper_ |
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| 01:30.06 | shorty114 | hi nullified |
| 01:30.26 | nullified | hello |
| 01:30.29 | nullified | how's it going? |
| 01:31.21 | shorty114 | not bad. |
| 01:31.23 | shorty114 | how about you? |
| 01:31.28 | nullified | alive and kicking |
| 01:31.29 | nullified | :) |
| 01:31.37 | shorty114 | heh |
| 01:32.50 | nullified | crap...bbl |
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| 01:47.40 | wegstar | heh |
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| 02:06.46 | wegstar | It's no use... People can't connect to my server, they are instantly disconnected... HELP |
| 02:12.13 | noyb | do you have debugging (-d -d -d) on? (not that I would understand it... but maybe it would be helpful to see debugging output.) |
| 02:12.27 | wegstar | yeah |
| 02:12.53 | noyb | I'll give it a whack... which server? |
| 02:13.06 | wegstar | node.game-server.cc:5154 |
| 02:13.15 | wegstar | try the 5156 too |
| 02:14.07 | wegstar | see? |
| 02:14.43 | noyb | I get the map, but cannot enter the game. |
| 02:14.49 | wegstar | oh.. |
| 02:14.54 | wegstar | what do you think is the problem |
| 02:14.55 | wegstar | ? |
| 02:15.08 | noyb | do you have your firewall on? |
| 02:15.34 | wegstar | nope |
| 02:15.51 | noyb | is this the latest build of bzfs? |
| 02:15.58 | wegstar | yes |
| 02:16.16 | noyb | let me try to connect with bzadmin |
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| 02:17.19 | noyb | Could not connect to node.game-server.cc:5154. |
| 02:17.29 | wegstar | ? |
| 02:17.32 | wegstar | strange. |
| 02:17.47 | noyb | that's what I got back from bzadmin. |
| 02:17.47 | orchid | oh not too much |
| 02:18.07 | wegstar | Player Eh? removed.. write error |
| 02:18.40 | noyb | have you restarted bzfs? |
| 02:18.46 | wegstar | yes |
| 02:19.23 | noyb | um, straws here... reboot the box? |
| 02:19.34 | wegstar | ok.. brb |
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| 02:20.05 | DTRemenak | ah, blast007: could you cvs update and try compiling bzadmin again |
| 02:20.13 | blast007 | DTRemenak: okay |
| 02:20.15 | noyb | that's my official windows solution that I just applied to an unknown operating system... good luck. |
| 02:20.15 | shorty114 | ooh did you take out the bzadmin requirements? |
| 02:20.19 | shorty114 | lol noyb |
| 02:20.28 | shorty114 | winders is a bad learning platform... |
| 02:20.34 | noyb | lol back |
| 02:20.35 | shorty114 | "hit Ctrl+alt+del" |
| 02:20.40 | shorty114 | "hit the reset button" |
| 02:20.55 | noyb | I wondered if anyone would catch that drivel... I guess you got it. |
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| 02:29.21 | blast007 | DTRemenak: bzadmin built now |
| 02:29.31 | DTRemenak | coolio :) |
| 02:29.31 | shorty114 | whoa that was fast |
| 02:29.43 | shorty114 | DTRemenak: did you take out the GL requirements? |
| 02:29.50 | DTRemenak | nope |
| 02:29.58 | DTRemenak | hehe |
| 02:30.15 | purple_cow | judging? |
| 02:30.22 | brlcad | DTRemenak: any status update? |
| 02:30.32 | brlcad | i.e. anything happen in the past couple hours :) |
| 02:30.53 | DTRemenak | brlcad: bzadmin on vc6 builds. fixed a stupid stupid error in the config file upgrade function |
| 02:30.57 | DTRemenak | omission actually |
| 02:31.23 | brlcad | purple_cow: judginge art and photography for PTA "Reflections" program |
| 02:31.59 | noyb | here's 2 cents... I like the new config files with server commands/vars bound to the map. who's to blame for that? :) |
| 02:32.09 | brlcad | DTRemenak: so no major bugs announced yet? |
| 02:32.18 | DTRemenak | brlcad: nope |
| 02:32.24 | brlcad | good good |
| 02:32.40 | noyb | You're speaking of the RC? |
| 02:32.52 | DTRemenak | that config file thing broke the roaming keys, but only one guy noticed :S |
| 02:34.10 | noyb | well give that guy 20% more than what he's making now... :) but good job on the config file, whomever that was. |
| 02:34.48 | DTRemenak | Tupone's done a lot of work on the keybindings, if that's what you mean |
| 02:35.16 | DTRemenak | I'm not sure what you're trying to say though :) |
| 02:35.22 | brlcad | ~.2 * 0 |
| 02:35.36 | shorty114 | 0? |
| 02:35.45 | noyb | no, I mean, I have a shell script that starts my server with all of those flags on the cmd line. and then I need to change it for each map. |
| 02:35.59 | noyb | now the map has the server vars and cmd line args built in. |
| 02:36.02 | noyb | neat! |
| 02:36.07 | noyb | I love it. |
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| 02:36.33 | brlcad | noyb: heh, you might like -conf too |
| 02:36.35 | DTRemenak | ah. that's a pretty old change I think. not sure who... |
| 02:36.42 | wegstar | noyb: ok rebooted |
| 02:36.45 | DTRemenak | I think that's what he's talking about :) |
| 02:36.59 | shorty114 | noyb: put all your args into a file, and then -conf foo.conf it |
| 02:37.01 | brlcad | could be referring to the /set stuff |
| 02:37.23 | noyb | lemme check again. nmap says the port is open... |
| 02:37.33 | brlcad | okay, time to go home.. cyas |
| 02:37.43 | noyb | bzadmin says: Could not connect to 64.175.249.240:5154. |
| 02:37.43 | DTRemenak | c'ya brlcad |
| 02:37.56 | wegstar | hmm |
| 02:39.07 | noyb | what is your OS? |
| 02:39.13 | wegstar | WinXP |
| 02:39.19 | shorty114 | eeew |
| 02:39.19 | noyb | wegstar |
| 02:39.24 | wegstar | i know |
| 02:40.05 | wegstar | bleh now i can't connect |
| 02:40.46 | noyb | ooof |
| 02:41.35 | noyb | I literally know nothing about windows. I never have owned windows, or had a windows or dos box in my house and they never made me use one at work... |
| 02:41.52 | shorty114 | lucky you :) |
| 02:41.58 | noyb | yay me! |
| 02:42.03 | wegstar | aw... |
| 02:42.16 | wegstar | wait.. try again please. I thinks its working... |
| 02:42.17 | noyb | so I just don't even know where to start debugging. |
| 02:42.23 | noyb | ok, |
| 02:43.00 | noyb | Could not connect to 64.175.249.240:5154. |
| 02:43.17 | noyb | lemme try the client |
| 02:43.22 | wegstar | argh |
| 02:43.51 | blast007 | telnet can't connect either |
| 02:44.05 | noyb | cant enter the game with 'i' |
| 02:44.09 | wegstar | It had worked nicely yesterday... |
| 02:44.42 | noyb | are you certain you're using the fresh bzfs? would the old bzfs exhibit this behaviour? |
| 02:45.00 | wegstar | yes i'm certain |
| 02:45.25 | noyb | ok, sorry. just checkin' |
| 02:45.32 | wegstar | ? |
| 02:45.52 | blast007 | do you have a router? |
| 02:45.57 | wegstar | nope |
| 02:46.23 | wegstar | I did once and 1.10.8 ran smoothly... |
| 02:48.30 | wegstar | ah.. it must be that windows update thing I did yesterday... |
| 02:48.44 | blast007 | your IP changed |
| 02:48.53 | blast007 | ~bzfquery 67.123.173.73:5154 |
| 02:49.10 | wegstar | yeah... |
| 02:51.06 | shorty114 | ~bzfquery viper.pimpi.org:5159 |
| 02:51.12 | shorty114 | ~more |
| 02:51.13 | ibot | methinks more is Displays the contents of the named files, one screenful at a time. Syntax: more (file1) (file2) ...(fileN). Where file1 through fileN are the files to display. Example: more papers/history-final displays the file papers/history-final. |
| 02:51.21 | shorty114 | o.o |
| 02:51.24 | shorty114 | ~ |
| 02:51.28 | shorty114 | ~~ |
| 02:52.03 | shorty114 | ~nport |
| 02:52.05 | shorty114 | ~nmap |
| 02:52.06 | ibot | Full featured, robust port scanner. URL: http://www.insecure.org/nmap/index.html |
| 02:52.43 | shorty114 | ~sshnuke |
| 02:52.51 | shorty114 | ~google sshnuke |
| 02:57.05 | wegstar | noyb: looks like its working now.. have spare time to test? |
| 02:57.54 | noyb | sure |
| 02:58.06 | wegstar | thx |
| 02:58.29 | noyb | bzadmin says... |
| 02:58.30 | noyb | Could not connect to 64.175.249.240:5154. |
| 02:58.42 | noyb | client says... |
| 02:59.22 | noyb | cannot enter after getting map |
| 02:59.45 | wegstar | oh well.. |
| 03:00.04 | noyb | I'm using the ip addr to preclude questions about dns, etc. |
| 03:00.39 | wegstar | yeah.. myabe changed.. |
| 03:01.44 | wegstar | 67.123.173.73 is this what you're using? |
| 03:06.33 | noyb | no |
| 03:06.41 | noyb | 64.175.249.240 |
| 03:06.46 | wegstar | ah |
| 03:07.09 | noyb | ~nslookup 64.175.249.240 |
| 03:07.28 | wegstar | 01,01~nslookup 01,9904 0167.123.173.7301,99 |
| 03:07.39 | wegstar | silence... |
| 03:07.48 | wegstar | ~nslookup 67.123.173.73 |
| 03:08.18 | noyb | patience, wegstar-hopper |
| 03:08.32 | wegstar | :) |
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| 03:24.53 | shorty114 | yo Aribeth |
| 03:25.05 | Aribeth | hi shorty114 |
| 03:25.24 | Aribeth | whats up? |
| 03:25.41 | shorty114 | nm |
| 03:25.47 | shorty114 | you? |
| 03:26.05 | Aribeth | unwinding from work, just got home |
| 03:26.50 | noyb | Could not connect to 67.123.173.73:5154. |
| 03:27.00 | wegstar | ok |
| 03:27.05 | wegstar | try 5156 |
| 03:27.20 | wegstar | i had to turn debugging to the lowest level to see.. |
| 03:27.54 | noyb | oh... sorry |
| 03:28.00 | wegstar | ? |
| 03:28.28 | noyb | Could not connect to 67.123.173.73:5156. |
| 03:28.35 | wegstar | ok thx |
| 03:31.19 | noyb | cannot enter the game on 67.123.173.73:5156 |
| 03:31.39 | noyb | nader was there, but didn't see his dot running around. maybe same prob. |
| 03:32.20 | wegstar | yeah i was editing the config |
| 03:32.37 | wegstar | so it was paused |
| 03:32.54 | noyb | ok, at least I said "maybe" ;) |
| 03:33.02 | wegstar | :) |
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| 03:33.47 | shorty114 | hi jolly |
| 03:33.54 | jolly | hey shorty |
| 03:34.18 | wegstar | blah- write error.... |
| 03:34.30 | wegstar | hmm |
| 03:34.59 | noyb | koool... debug output? |
| 03:35.06 | wegstar | yeah... |
| 03:37.19 | noyb | here's where a win dev is supposed to pick up the ball... |
| 03:38.37 | wegstar | ok.. so i'll use version 1.10.8 and put up a server and we'll see if it works, if it does, then it must be some bug in the new version... |
| 03:39.24 | noyb | good idea! |
| 03:39.56 | shorty114 | blast007: smart move. |
| 03:40.00 | amathis | +shorty114> i already have a g/f |
| 03:40.02 | blast007 | hehe |
| 03:40.06 | amathis | oof, wrong channel. |
| 03:40.11 | amathis | wrong button too |
| 03:40.14 | amathis | I am on a roll. |
| 03:40.18 | shorty114 | amathis is drunk beyond reasoning... |
| 03:40.25 | amathis | umm.. no. |
| 03:40.43 | shorty114 | watever. |
| 03:40.48 | amathis | o.0 |
| 03:41.03 | Aribeth | then it may be time to start drinking |
| 03:41.09 | amathis | Aribeth: haha |
| 03:41.25 | shorty114 | <amathis> SHHH |
| 03:41.25 | shorty114 | * shorty114 regrets the beer run |
| 03:41.25 | shorty114 | <amathis> shhhh |
| 03:41.26 | shorty114 | <amathis> seriousley... SH! |
| 03:41.28 | shorty114 | <amathis> :D |
| 03:41.33 | shorty114 | payback for the other paste :D |
| 03:41.58 | shorty114 | Virtual Beer 2.1 |
| 03:42.10 | amathis | o.o |
| 03:42.35 | Aribeth | ahhh vodka |
| 03:42.58 | wegstar | noyb:finished port 5156 |
| 03:43.08 | amathis | Aribeth: tasty? |
| 03:43.23 | noyb | 1.10.8 client comin' up |
| 03:43.24 | wegstar | (wine)(wine)(wine)(wine)(wine) |
| 03:43.31 | wegstar | ok |
| 03:43.55 | shorty114 | wow that was weird... |
| 03:43.58 | Aribeth | yup, vedry tasty |
| 03:43.59 | shorty114 | time to install gentoo >D |
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| 03:45.52 | wegstar | ok.. |
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| 03:46.07 | noyb | well, your net works. |
| 03:46.15 | wegstar | yeah. |
| 03:46.52 | wegstar | what now? report before they release it? |
| 03:47.47 | noyb | just say what's on your mind right here I think. But I would expect some other reports to kill the release. |
| 03:48.12 | wegstar | ok.. |
| 03:48.14 | noyb | anyone else *not* working on winxp with the latest bzfs? |
| 03:48.28 | wegstar | sure won't be soon :) |
| 03:48.50 | wegstar | darn |
| 03:48.59 | [shorty114] | noyb: hehe |
| 03:51.11 | noyb | in the converse... who is running bzfs on winxp? |
| 03:51.51 | amathis | thunderbird takes forever to compile. >_< |
| 03:51.58 | wegstar | I guess noone.. |
| 03:52.32 | wegstar | whatever.. since everyone seems busy, i'll stick it up at sourceforge |
| 03:52.48 | [shorty114] | amathis: that's why you use binary |
| 03:53.03 | [shorty114] | :) |
| 03:53.09 | amathis | [shorty114]: I am pretty sure my computer uses binary. |
| 03:53.13 | amathis | lemme check. |
| 03:53.15 | noyb | wegstar: did you try the RC ? |
| 03:53.27 | wegstar | yes |
| 03:53.28 | shorty114 | amathis: i meant the binary distro... |
| 03:53.29 | DTRemenak | someone connect to 131.215.170.165:5154 |
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| 03:54.26 | DTRemenak | whoever that was, try again :) |
| 03:54.32 | shorty114 | heh |
| 03:54.43 | DTRemenak | darn firewalls :) |
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| 03:57.23 | DTRemenak | oops, just killed it |
| 03:57.29 | wegstar | heh |
| 03:57.39 | DTRemenak | windows is so idiotic sometimes :) |
| 03:57.50 | DTRemenak | anyway, did whoever that was connect? |
| 03:57.50 | shorty114 | lol |
| 03:59.00 | DTRemenak | or...can someone try again? |
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| 04:00.06 | DTRemenak | somebody, anybody? |
| 04:00.17 | JeffM2501 | learner: is there a new one you want me to test on 10.2 |
| 04:00.26 | shorty114 | but he's busy burning gentoo :) |
| 04:00.28 | shorty114 | *:( |
| 04:00.44 | JeffM2501 | are you tricking people into pulling your finger again? |
| 04:00.50 | shorty114 | lol |
| 04:00.57 | DTRemenak | no, just trying to get someone to connect to a server on windows |
| 04:01.09 | JeffM2501 | where is a binary? |
| 04:01.15 | JeffM2501 | I have no ability to get current code |
| 04:01.35 | DTRemenak | the 1.11 builds page has .36 |
| 04:01.45 | DTRemenak | it's the server I'm worried about, not the client |
| 04:01.55 | blast007 | DTRemenak: I have a current build |
| 04:02.09 | JeffM2501 | http://my.bzflag.org/builds/1.11/ only has 35 |
| 04:02.11 | DTRemenak | blast007: 131.215.170.165:5154 |
| 04:02.17 | DTRemenak | JeffM2501: really? |
| 04:02.19 | JeffM2501 | ohh it's not named right |
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| 04:02.23 | learner | JeffM2501, not yet.. when I hit the static build wall last night, I decided to finally get to regenerating the xcode project so that it should remain in sync now -- not done yet |
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| 04:02.33 | DTRemenak | ah, ok |
| 04:02.50 | JeffM2501 | learner: ok, the 10.2 system is back on again |
| 04:02.53 | JeffM2501 | if you are in need |
| 04:03.02 | noyb | yay learner! I'm really looking forward to the xcode proj. Thanks! |
| 04:03.42 | JeffM2501 | dtr, installing |
| 04:03.50 | JeffM2501 | server? |
| 04:04.05 | DTRemenak | ~blast007++ |
| 04:04.20 | DTRemenak | JeffM2501: don't need to if you don't want to, and I just killed the server |
| 04:04.28 | DTRemenak | thanks tho |
| 04:04.28 | JeffM2501 | ahh |
| 04:04.34 | JeffM2501 | well I have it installed now if you need |
| 04:04.39 | DTRemenak | ok, thanks :) |
| 04:05.46 | DTRemenak | wegstar: win server works from here |
| 04:08.41 | noyb | thanks, DTRemenak. that's what I wanted to know. |
| 04:09.54 | noyb | wegstar: are you using the same binary RC as DTRemenak ? |
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| 04:10.18 | wegstar | "as DTRemenak"? |
| 04:10.27 | wegstar | srry i wasn't following this discussion.. |
| 04:10.35 | DTRemenak | noyb: I'm pretty sure he's not, I'm using a release build from cvs I just built maybe 5 minutes ago :) |
| 04:10.58 | noyb | ooof... uh, can you run the same one as wegstar ? |
| 04:11.09 | DTRemenak | yeah, I probably still have it on here somewhere |
| 04:11.17 | DTRemenak | wegstar: what version are you running? |
| 04:11.27 | wegstar | 1.11.36 |
| 04:11.31 | DTRemenak | k |
| 04:11.42 | JeffM2501 | I can set up a route real quick with the install |
| 04:11.45 | JeffM2501 | if you wish me to |
| 04:11.57 | wegstar | BZFlag 2.0 Release Candidate build |
| 04:12.35 | DTRemenak | ok, someone want to try the same address again? |
| 04:12.46 | wegstar | ok.. stuck that bug report at sourceforge... |
| 04:13.36 | DTRemenak | gah, whoever that was want to try again? (firewall again) |
| 04:13.58 | JeffM2501 | addy? |
| 04:15.57 | JeffM2501 | I'm running one right from the binary |
| 04:16.01 | JeffM2501 | and it's fine |
| 04:16.04 | JeffM2501 | somone even loged in |
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| 04:19.30 | DTRemenak | yup, works here too |
| 04:19.36 | DTRemenak | we even shot each other a bit |
| 04:19.38 | JeffM2501 | you running windows sp2 firewall or anything kooky wegstar ? |
| 04:19.46 | wegstar | well sp2... |
| 04:19.51 | wegstar | firewall |
| 04:19.55 | JeffM2501 | firewall on or off? |
| 04:20.02 | wegstar | off |
| 04:20.09 | DTRemenak | ooh, good thing i did that... |
| 04:20.09 | JeffM2501 | router? |
| 04:20.13 | wegstar | nope |
| 04:20.31 | JeffM2501 | modem put you behind a nat? |
| 04:20.39 | wegstar | nope |
| 04:20.45 | JeffM2501 | wierd |
| 04:20.53 | JeffM2501 | show in the list server? |
| 04:20.56 | wegstar | yes |
| 04:21.10 | JeffM2501 | hmm that means that the list server gets to you |
| 04:21.20 | JeffM2501 | maybe you just have UDP issues |
| 04:21.26 | JeffM2501 | it's right when they start to spawn? |
| 04:21.31 | wegstar | yes |
| 04:21.32 | JeffM2501 | can observers join ok? |
| 04:21.35 | wegstar | no |
| 04:21.35 | DTRemenak | I could join his as observer |
| 04:21.40 | CIA-2 | BZFlag: 03dtremenak * 10bzflag/package/win32/nsis/BZFlag.nsi: actually uninstall everything we install |
| 04:21.51 | DTRemenak | at least in roaming mode |
| 04:22.01 | JeffM2501 | realy sounds UDP releated |
| 04:22.09 | wegstar | So I should.... |
| 04:22.14 | JeffM2501 | and it's a "write error" ? |
| 04:22.19 | wegstar | yes |
| 04:22.32 | JeffM2501 | thats like an error from winsock |
| 04:22.45 | wegstar | hmm |
| 04:22.51 | DTRemenak | wegstar: did you say that 1.10.8 worked fine? |
| 04:22.54 | wegstar | yeah |
| 04:22.59 | DTRemenak | hmm |
| 04:23.00 | JeffM2501 | I am so doomed to repeat myself |
| 04:23.07 | DTRemenak | heh |
| 04:23.13 | wegstar | :) |
| 04:23.21 | DTRemenak | 1.10 had the same udp requirements as 1.11 does though, right? |
| 04:23.30 | JeffM2501 | yup |
| 04:23.42 | JeffM2501 | tho the net code was probably cleaned up/ changed |
| 04:23.50 | JeffM2501 | bah, I hve to change to pserver |
| 04:24.02 | DTRemenak | heh |
| 04:24.12 | DTRemenak | now don't you wish you hadn't been so rash? |
| 04:24.31 | JeffM2501 | nope, I'm fine with it |
| 04:24.47 | JeffM2501 | just wish SF had ext read only for anyone with an account |
| 04:24.54 | JeffM2501 | so they could get up to date stuff |
| 04:24.58 | JeffM2501 | instead of anon |
| 04:25.05 | JeffM2501 | maybe cvs dosn't work that way |
| 04:25.12 | DTRemenak | yeah, that would be awefully nice. whats stopping them from doing that? |
| 04:25.17 | JeffM2501 | and the sooner you get this out the sooner I can bug you about my ideas :) |
| 04:25.30 | JeffM2501 | I don't know enough about how CVS works to say |
| 04:25.39 | DTRemenak | hm, actually, I guess they'd have to set some seriously huge cvsacls |
| 04:25.44 | DTRemenak | make it even slower :S |
| 04:25.45 | JeffM2501 | it's just what my end user experince side tells me :) |
| 04:25.51 | DTRemenak | heh :) |
| 04:26.14 | JeffM2501 | or make 2 difrent types of users per projecs |
| 04:26.23 | JeffM2501 | devs and "members" |
| 04:26.31 | JeffM2501 | members get opt in/out read only access |
| 04:26.53 | DTRemenak | seems like they should be able to run a seperate cvs server over the same repository in read only mode though, so they wouldn't have to use cvsacls for it |
| 04:27.05 | JeffM2501 | dono |
| 04:27.09 | DTRemenak | unless there's some wierd locking junk being done |
| 04:27.12 | JeffM2501 | or maybe one on the same system difrent port |
| 04:27.18 | DTRemenak | yeah |
| 04:27.58 | DTRemenak | or, they could just set up their current system with anoncvs.sf.net and cvs.sf.net. they're on different machines already, why not have both ext? |
| 04:28.11 | JeffM2501 | it's coming from adns |
| 04:28.13 | JeffM2501 | and that IS new |
| 04:28.19 | JeffM2501 | it's unable to do the lookup |
| 04:28.33 | JeffM2501 | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:28.33 | JeffM2501 | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:28.33 | JeffM2501 | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:28.33 | JeffM2501 | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:28.33 | JeffM2501 | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:28.33 | JeffM2501 | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:28.35 | JeffM2501 | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:28.37 | JeffM2501 | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:28.38 | DTRemenak | I haven't built with adns though |
| 04:28.39 | JeffM2501 | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:28.41 | JeffM2501 | that will cause it to do the write |
| 04:28.49 | JeffM2501 | it's geting that error |
| 04:28.51 | DTRemenak | so that whole thing should never be called |
| 04:29.31 | JeffM2501 | or it's geting EINTR |
| 04:30.15 | JeffM2501 | from the tcp receve |
| 04:30.24 | JeffM2501 | it's one of those 2 things |
| 04:30.50 | DTRemenak | yeah, that whole block is in an #if HAVE_ADNS_H define, which isn't defined. can't be ADNS, that code isn't even compiled into his exe. |
| 04:31.13 | JeffM2501 | stand by |
| 04:31.33 | JeffM2501 | default build should just work right? |
| 04:31.39 | JeffM2501 | I'm making a small change |
| 04:31.54 | JeffM2501 | so it'll show what one |
| 04:32.05 | DTRemenak | yup, should work |
| 04:32.22 | DTRemenak | long as you have libcurl still |
| 04:32.46 | JeffM2501 | I do |
| 04:32.49 | JeffM2501 | I use that for my stuff |
| 04:33.51 | JeffM2501 | even have a game client that automaticly downloads new content from the web, with a GL progress meter and eveyting :) |
| 04:34.00 | DTRemenak | hehe :) |
| 04:34.02 | JeffM2501 | building a bzfs now |
| 04:34.06 | DTRemenak | libcurl is cool, gotta admit |
| 04:34.36 | JeffM2501 | and you can make it non blockingish by installing callbacks |
| 04:34.56 | JeffM2501 | no more soda in the hizzouze :( |
| 04:36.45 | JeffM2501 | tho I can say for sure that, the same app, has the WORST makefile ever |
| 04:36.51 | DTRemenak | heh |
| 04:37.07 | JeffM2501 | it's scary |
| 04:37.56 | JeffM2501 | ok wegstar get this |
| 04:37.57 | JeffM2501 | http://sasami.bakadigital.com/temp/bzfs.zip |
| 04:37.59 | JeffM2501 | uzip |
| 04:38.01 | JeffM2501 | run |
| 04:38.03 | wegstar | ok |
| 04:38.05 | JeffM2501 | get somone to join |
| 04:38.09 | JeffM2501 | and tell us what the error is |
| 04:38.15 | wegstar | ok :) |
| 04:38.30 | JeffM2501 | it's just the bzfs.exe |
| 04:38.36 | JeffM2501 | so put it where the other one is |
| 04:38.42 | wegstar | right. |
| 04:39.16 | JeffM2501 | it'll ether say EAGAIN or EINTR after the error part |
| 04:39.36 | wegstar | oh, the report to windows error thingy |
| 04:39.39 | wegstar | pops up |
| 04:39.55 | JeffM2501 | muther.... |
| 04:40.00 | wegstar | Error signature: AppName: bzfs.exe |
| 04:40.00 | wegstar | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:40.00 | wegstar | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:40.00 | wegstar | ModVer: 7.12.3.0 |
| 04:40.00 | wegstar | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:40.04 | JeffM2501 | bah stupid SSL |
| 04:40.07 | DTRemenak | heh |
| 04:40.54 | JeffM2501 | where do I get a non SSL libCurl? |
| 04:41.36 | JeffM2501 | here get this DDL |
| 04:41.44 | DTRemenak | JeffM2501: pull the one from your 1.11.36 install |
| 04:41.47 | JeffM2501 | http://sasami.bakadigital.com/temp/libcurl.dll |
| 04:41.51 | DTRemenak | I couldn't find one so I built it |
| 04:41.52 | JeffM2501 | that one works |
| 04:42.03 | JeffM2501 | for me at least |
| 04:42.09 | JeffM2501 | put that DLL in the bzflag dir |
| 04:42.19 | wegstar | ok |
| 04:43.33 | wegstar | someone needs to connect... |
| 04:43.38 | JeffM2501 | server? |
| 04:43.42 | wegstar | yes |
| 04:43.44 | Thumper_ | hey DTR |
| 04:43.52 | DTRemenak | hiya Thumper_ |
| 04:44.00 | JeffM2501 | server "name" ? |
| 04:44.10 | Thumper_ | you still need someone to connect to a server? Can I use a linux client to help? |
| 04:44.13 | wegstar | the address ? |
| 04:44.23 | JeffM2501 | and bingo was his nameo |
| 04:44.33 | wegstar | node.game-server.cc:5154 |
| 04:45.01 | JeffM2501 | can't spawn |
| 04:45.05 | DTRemenak | Thumper_: nope, I don't need anyone anymore |
| 04:45.06 | wegstar | yeah... |
| 04:45.09 | Thumper_ | ok |
| 04:45.15 | DTRemenak | thx for offering tho |
| 04:45.21 | Thumper_ | :) np |
| 04:45.28 | JeffM2501 | what is up with the no spawn thing |
| 04:45.30 | Thumper_ | let me know if there is something useful I can do to help |
| 04:45.41 | JeffM2501 | you got something jacking packets |
| 04:45.52 | wegstar | oh |
| 04:46.04 | blast007 | maybe the UDP port isn't open? |
| 04:46.18 | wegstar | i'll see.. |
| 04:46.21 | JeffM2501 | something is blocked up the wazzo |
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| 04:49.15 | wegstar | I didn't open the UDP port, now its open; but i did earlier and it didn't work... |
| 04:50.20 | JeffM2501 | can't even get to you now |
| 04:50.37 | wegstar | aaack |
| 04:50.39 | JeffM2501 | unless your like 1000's of MS laged |
| 04:50.44 | JeffM2501 | see if you can join my server |
| 04:50.49 | wegstar | ok |
| 04:51.06 | wegstar | address? |
| 04:51.14 | JeffM2501 | mihoshi.bakadigital.com |
| 04:51.17 | JeffM2501 | should show in list |
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| 04:51.29 | JeffM2501 | oh I didn't make it public |
| 04:51.31 | JeffM2501 | 1 sec |
| 04:52.25 | JeffM2501 | there |
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| 04:53.33 | JeffM2501 | and if you run 1.10 right now it works? |
| 04:53.33 | wegstar | ok |
| 04:53.41 | wegstar | yes- thereserver |
| 04:53.45 | wegstar | the server works |
| 04:53.50 | JeffM2501 | wierd |
| 04:54.06 | JeffM2501 | only diff is 2.0 is built with VC7 |
| 04:54.34 | JeffM2501 | you have the .net framework pack from windows update? |
| 04:54.39 | wegstar | nope |
| 04:54.43 | JeffM2501 | get it |
| 04:54.45 | wegstar | ok |
| 04:54.46 | JeffM2501 | see if that helps |
| 04:57.08 | JeffM2501 | ahah... I had the ssl lib curl dll in my system dir |
| 04:59.18 | learner | yeah, i saw that |
| 04:59.34 | learner | system just had never run updatedb yet |
| 04:59.46 | JeffM2501 | you saw that I had eq2? |
| 04:59.52 | learner | heh |
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| 05:00.34 | JeffM2501 | covad |
| 05:00.49 | JeffM2501 | no more dialup for the man!?!? |
| 05:01.14 | learner | wicked |
| 05:01.34 | learner | poor MeBigFatGuy .. still off in the boonies |
| 05:02.02 | MeBigFatGuy | hmmm? |
| 05:02.19 | MeBigFatGuy | one second, while i adjust my rabbit ears... |
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| 05:05.23 | wegstar | JeffM2501- have to reboot, brb |
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| 05:06.24 | lan56 | how can the release date be today if there are still so many unfixed bugs in the bug list?, also, how come it hasn't been released yet? |
| 05:07.58 | learner | lan56, you see a critical bug? |
| 05:08.17 | learner | lan56, hasn't been released yet because of so many people asking why hasn't it been released yet |
| 05:08.49 | lan56 | learner: ah, and while I haven't noticed bugs myself, the "recent bugs" list in BUGS has a few noticeable ones |
| 05:09.48 | learner | i'm redoing the mac build, which is taking a little time, but otherwise we should be almost ready to post |
| 05:10.30 | lan56 | ahh, that sounds pretty swell, I am very excited for the release, now the hard part is waiting |
| 05:11.13 | learner | can't/shouldn't post the source tarball without these mac build fixes (so they can download and compile) |
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| 05:12.41 | wegstar | ok... i need someone to connect.. |
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| 05:14.50 | wegstar | hello? Thumper? JeffM2051? |
| 05:15.07 | JeffM2501 | on a griffin |
| 05:15.09 | JeffM2501 | gimme a sec |
| 05:15.12 | wegstar | ok |
| 05:16.01 | JeffM2501 | still can't spawn |
| 05:16.06 | wegstar | yeah... |
| 05:20.19 | Thumper_ | yes wegstar? |
| 05:21.07 | wegstar | nothing... |
| 05:21.15 | Thumper_ | :) too slow again :/ |
| 05:21.19 | wegstar | :) |
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| 05:22.00 | sgk284 | hello |
| 05:22.08 | wegstar | hi |
| 05:22.11 | Thumper_ | hi |
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| 05:23.50 | sgk284 | ~seen TimRiker |
| 05:23.52 | ibot | timriker <~timr@TimRiker.active.supporter.pdpc> was last seen on IRC in channel #botpark, 4h 19m 2s ago, saying: 'well gotta run.'. |
| 05:24.04 | sgk284 | hey DTRemenak |
| 05:24.06 | DTRemenak | ahh, now that's better. I can only stand windows for so long :) |
| 05:24.12 | sgk284 | heh |
| 05:24.16 | wegstar | heh |
| 05:24.34 | DTRemenak | hey look, I have a real shell! |
| 05:25.26 | sgk284 | and real utilities to go along with it:) |
| 05:25.52 | DTRemenak | yup :) |
| 05:28.00 | DTRemenak | heh, that's pretty good. I just wrote a whole program in a language I had never written in before, and it worked on the first try :) |
| 05:29.20 | Tegan | which language, DTRemenak? |
| 05:29.54 | DTRemenak | java |
| 05:30.14 | Tegan | ah |
| 05:30.24 | DTRemenak | close enough to C++ I could guess on a lot of stuff |
| 05:30.29 | wegstar | heh, the classes freak me out... |
| 05:31.12 | DTRemenak | ranlib: libCommon.a: No space left on device |
| 05:31.16 | DTRemenak | I hate those errors... |
| 05:32.03 | sgk284 | DTRemenak, using an editor or an IDE like eclipse? |
| 05:32.23 | sgk284 | i know eclipse really made life easy for me when starting out in java, its a beautiful thing:) |
| 05:32.24 | DTRemenak | sgk284, notepad |
| 05:32.29 | sgk284 | notepad? |
| 05:32.33 | MeBigFatGuy | eclipse rox0rs |
| 05:32.42 | DTRemenak | yup, rebooted to linux to check it in netbeans |
| 05:32.50 | MeBigFatGuy | netbeans blows |
| 05:32.51 | sgk284 | netbeans is nice too:) |
| 05:32.55 | DTRemenak | didn't have any space left on my windows drive for it :) |
| 05:32.58 | sgk284 | MeBigFatGuy, lol ever use it? |
| 05:33.08 | MeBigFatGuy | yup, hate every second |
| 05:33.10 | DTRemenak | It seems awefully clumsy to me |
| 05:33.10 | sgk284 | its got real nice integration especially with ewb apps |
| 05:33.19 | MeBigFatGuy | it gawd awfully slow, to boot |
| 05:33.24 | learner | woo hoo! |
| 05:33.24 | sgk284 | its a memory hog.... eclipse is much more responsive |
| 05:33.27 | learner | it works |
| 05:33.33 | learner | it even sets the pretty icon |
| 05:33.36 | sgk284 | heh |
| 05:33.46 | DTRemenak | I've not had a problem with speed. then again, this system is overpowered for a text editor... |
| 05:33.53 | sgk284 | heh |
| 05:34.28 | sgk284 | and with gcj making so much progress it shouldnt be long until any (or most) java apps can compile to native code:) |
| 05:34.43 | DTRemenak | hmph, but it does take up over 100 mb of memory |
| 05:34.48 | MeBigFatGuy | bah, java apps are compiled to native code |
| 05:34.58 | MeBigFatGuy | just not before you run em |
| 05:35.11 | sgk284 | actually the jvm is fast enough and provides various functionality that i think i'd prefer it over native |
| 05:35.45 | sgk284 | and for services, the 1.5.0 jvm with hotspot dynamically optimizes your code while its running... its pretty nice |
| 05:35.57 | sgk284 | cant do that with native code |
| 05:36.07 | MeBigFatGuy | yup |
| 05:36.09 | learner | awn... "*** malloc[6011]: Deallocation of a pointer not malloced: 0xb0020000;" |
| 05:36.13 | MeBigFatGuy | preachin' to the choir |
| 05:36.16 | sgk284 | heh |
| 05:36.24 | DTRemenak | learner... :) |
| 05:37.00 | MeBigFatGuy | imo, stack based objects are really the only big stick c++ has |
| 05:38.00 | MeBigFatGuy | heh |
| 05:38.26 | sgk284 | and templates:) |
| 05:38.37 | MeBigFatGuy | java has generics, basiclally the same thing |
| 05:39.02 | sgk284 | true |
| 05:39.44 | learner | "sonny, back in my day.. our language had more numbers than letters and we were thankful for it!" |
| 05:40.03 | Aribeth | lol |
| 05:40.09 | sgk284 | heh |
| 05:40.18 | wegstar | jdk5.0???? |
| 05:40.49 | sgk284 | wegstar, yea thats the latest release |
| 05:40.56 | wegstar | oh, i have j2sdk1.4 |
| 05:41.07 | sgk284 | some call it 1.5.0, others 5.0, 5.0 is official i believe |
| 05:41.15 | wegstar | ah, ok |
| 05:41.18 | sgk284 | yea Sun dropped the 1. |
| 05:41.35 | wegstar | ok |
| 05:41.36 | sgk284 | we should release BZFlag 12 |
| 05:41.38 | sgk284 | :) |
| 05:41.52 | wegstar | heh |
| 05:41.55 | MeBigFatGuy | 5.0 crushes 1.4 like a new language |
| 05:42.06 | MeBigFatGuy | so the marketing geeks wanted some buzz |
| 05:42.27 | sgk284 | 5.0 is very sweet, fixes anything that anyone could have complained about prior to it |
| 05:42.43 | wegstar | sounds fair |
| 05:42.46 | sgk284 | now if only i could get jogl to reliably work under fedora |
| 05:43.04 | learner | sgk284, heh, that's quite a leap of a statement.. people will always complain |
| 05:43.06 | MeBigFatGuy | heh |
| 05:43.46 | MeBigFatGuy | i'd like the 'const' modifier added to java .. other than that pretty complete imo |
| 05:43.49 | sgk284 | lol |
| 05:43.58 | sgk284 | MeBigFatGuy, yea |
| 05:44.29 | MeBigFatGuy | could do it with a preprocessor i suppose, as it doesn't effect code gen, me thinks |
| 05:44.53 | learner | i could still religiously complain about various aspects of performance and multiple inheritance, for example.. fortunately I _really_ don't care unless someone's forcing the language religiously themselves |
| 05:45.43 | sgk284 | :) |
| 05:46.33 | learner | language religion is silly -- they're all designed for certain areas and all have merits that make them ideal for certain environments |
| 05:46.41 | *** join/#bzflag SilverFox (SilverFox@68-116-47-254.or.charter.com) |
| 05:47.13 | learner | tee hee |
| 05:47.37 | MeBigFatGuy | heh |
| 05:47.39 | learner | so i'm going to hold a blind eye to that malloc bug returning |
| 05:47.56 | learner | since it's not an error.. just a warning :) |
| 05:47.58 | DTRemenak | learner, you fixed it once, right? |
| 05:48.04 | MeBigFatGuy | learner do you really like m-inheritance over multi-interfaces? |
| 05:48.24 | MeBigFatGuy | i don't recall ever using m-inheritance |
| 05:48.27 | learner | DTRemenak, last time it was tied to --enable-debug .. the "fix" was to disable debug |
| 05:48.33 | MeBigFatGuy | hehe |
| 05:49.04 | wegstar | windows server thingy still doesn't work.... |
| 05:49.18 | learner | MeBigFatGuy, not saying I like it or not.. i'm saying someone who does could use that as a complaint point (among dozens of other sillities) |
| 05:49.28 | MeBigFatGuy | ah |
| 05:50.01 | learner | personally, i'm fond of multiple interface, single inheritance |
| 05:50.41 | learner | unless it's a pure object oriented language |
| 05:50.56 | learner | (smalltalk for example) |
| 05:51.22 | learner | alas there are only a couple pure ones left |
| 05:51.36 | learner | (probably with good reason) |
| 05:51.45 | MeBigFatGuy | interesting. never used it |
| 05:53.43 | learner | i found myself coding in that language very naturally and quickly.. very nice |
| 05:54.16 | learner | unfortunately a rather woefully impractical language due to other factors |
| 05:55.49 | learner | i admit that it was interesting the first time I sent a message to an integer object.. "4 increment" .. and have it return a 5 object |
| 05:57.15 | MeBigFatGuy | heh |
| 06:00.06 | learner | funny thing is that I most wanted multiple inheritance with a pure oo lang, yet smalltalk is single only |
| 06:00.48 | learner | you end up architecting massive object heirarchies if you're not careful |
| 06:00.52 | sgk284 | err unless its complicated, can someone tell me whats special about the pngs that bzflag handles? |
| 06:01.04 | learner | nothing special |
| 06:01.27 | sgk284 | i.e. i saved a png in gimp with binary dimensions (2^n x 2^m) and its coming up black and white in bzflag :/ |
| 06:01.38 | learner | i don't think our reader likes certain pngs types |
| 06:01.42 | sgk284 | okay |
| 06:01.50 | learner | try changing your png output options in gimp |
| 06:01.52 | sgk284 | does it have to be indexed or rbg? or anything like that? |
| 06:01.57 | sgk284 | okay will do |
| 06:02.06 | learner | probably interlacing |
| 06:02.19 | sgk284 | k |
| 06:02.22 | wegstar | JeffM2501, do you have a solution to my server problem??? |
| 06:04.13 | wegstar | guess not |
| 06:04.16 | noyb | easy wegstar... these things take time. how bout a game? I'll go play a bit. pie in the sky? |
| 06:04.45 | wegstar | ok... |
| 06:04.56 | noyb | gotta get my mouse.. 1 sec |
| 06:05.00 | noyb | brt |
| 06:05.53 | JeffM2501 | nope I have no clue why it wont' work for you and works for everyone else |
| 06:06.01 | wegstar | ok... |
| 06:06.23 | sgk284 | wegstar, whats the problem? |
| 06:06.36 | wegstar | read at sourceforge |
| 06:07.17 | wegstar | :-) |
| 06:07.42 | sgk284 | when you connect locally, are you going through the localhost or through your lan IP ? |
| 06:08.02 | DTRemenak | sgk284, if bz fails to read any png please send me a copy of the said png |
| 06:08.16 | DTRemenak | that is, if bz 1.11 fails to read... :) |
| 06:08.17 | wegstar | connect locally? I don't |
| 06:08.33 | sgk284 | DTRemenak, okay, havent tried 1.11 this was on 1.10.8 |
| 06:08.44 | sgk284 | wegstar, you said you could connect fine locally |
| 06:08.55 | DTRemenak | k, dunno if I had fixed the reader in 1.10.8 |
| 06:09.05 | wegstar | well I used my WAN IP address |
| 06:09.14 | sgk284 | oh okay |
| 06:09.25 | sgk284 | is the server up right now? |
| 06:09.38 | wegstar | i'll get it up.. |
| 06:10.23 | wegstar | ok... |
| 06:10.39 | sgk284 | its up? |
| 06:10.44 | sgk284 | whats the ip? |
| 06:11.04 | trepan | sgk284: pngs can be non-binary dims in 1.11.x, but it will do some scaling on them to make them binary |
| 06:11.26 | wegstar | 64.175.251.162:5154 |
| 06:11.33 | sgk284 | trepan, sounds good thanks |
| 06:11.55 | sgk284 | ~bzfquery 64.175.251.162:5154 |
| 06:12.10 | sgk284 | okay thats a start:) |
| 06:12.14 | *** part/#bzflag Tegan (~lyra@dsl081-067-057.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net) |
| 06:13.33 | sgk284 | heh i can telnet to the server but bzadmin won't connect |
| 06:13.36 | sgk284 | :/ |
| 06:14.38 | wegstar | hmm.. |
| 06:17.01 | sgk284 | hmm does your firewall or some other device block udp? |
| 06:17.22 | wegstar | nope... opened it all up |
| 06:17.33 | sgk284 | ethereal is showing no udp packets... and if i'm reading this right, the point where they should come in is where its disconnecting |
| 06:17.49 | wegstar | oh |
| 06:18.10 | sgk284 | i may be wrong though because this is bzadmin and i havent looked at bzadmin traffic as much as i hav bzflag client |
| 06:18.14 | sgk284 | and bzadmin doesnt use udp |
| 06:18.23 | sgk284 | unless someone can corrent me |
| 06:18.26 | sgk284 | correct* |
| 06:19.01 | wegstar | I opened the TCP and UDP ports for 5154... |
| 06:19.15 | sgk284 | i'm a moron |
| 06:19.27 | jpa- | do you have requireudp on? |
| 06:19.29 | DTRemenak | geez, so self-abusive |
| 06:19.33 | wegstar | nope |
| 06:19.43 | sgk284 | lol its past 1:00 am so i'm tired... |
| 06:19.44 | jpa- | so it should work even without |
| 06:19.57 | sgk284 | and i realize i wasnt using the cvs bzadmin client, i jsut connected with bzadmin fine |
| 06:20.07 | DTRemenak | heh :) |
| 06:20.12 | sgk284 | the reason ethereal looked wierd was cause of the obvious conflict |
| 06:20.15 | sgk284 | heh |
| 06:20.42 | sgk284 | so bzadmin connects fine, time to test bzflag |
| 06:21.40 | jpa- | you should have released 2.0 three days ago, and now you start testing whether it connects! :D |
| 06:21.55 | sgk284 | lol this is a case specific scenario |
| 06:22.04 | DTRemenak | jpa-, bzflag and bzfs work fine - it's wegstar's setup that seems to be funky :) |
| 06:22.13 | jpa- | DTRemenak: yes, i know :) |
| 06:22.13 | wegstar | hmm |
| 06:22.20 | jpa- | my server worked fine :) |
| 06:22.38 | DTRemenak | yup, even with a cool map running :) |
| 06:22.45 | Thumper_ | hi jpa |
| 06:22.45 | wegstar | :( |
| 06:22.58 | jpa- | hi thumper with a better callsign |
| 06:23.05 | Thumper_ | :-P |
| 06:23.59 | sgk284 | wegstar, i connected fine with bzflag.. your server is raining and has a miror floor |
| 06:24.02 | sgk284 | mirror* |
| 06:24.15 | wegstar | yaaaaaaaaaaay |
| 06:24.22 | sgk284 | but when i tried to enter the game it seemed to be taking very long, what kind of connection you running it on? |
| 06:24.28 | wegstar | DSL |
| 06:24.41 | sgk284 | where in the world are you? |
| 06:24.47 | wegstar | california |
| 06:25.10 | DTRemenak | sgk284, so you could spawn? |
| 06:25.18 | sgk284 | hmm okay, well i connected, didn't actually play though |
| 06:25.20 | jpa- | and shoot? |
| 06:25.21 | sgk284 | DTRemenak, nope |
| 06:25.24 | sgk284 | no |
| 06:25.36 | jpa- | udp errors usually occur on shooting, imho |
| 06:25.49 | sgk284 | just the initial screen where it says your dead and press mouse or i to continue |
| 06:25.53 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o `ls`] by ChanServ |
| 06:26.00 | sgk284 | pressed mouse and waited like 30 seconds with nothing |
| 06:26.18 | wegstar | hmm.. |
| 06:26.26 | jpa- | how can someone have bzfs malfunctioning like that? |
| 06:26.32 | sgk284 | lol |
| 06:26.42 | sgk284 | wegstar, you been playing with the code at all? :) |
| 06:26.53 | wegstar | nope, i'm not that good... |
| 06:27.06 | jpa- | can you put your config online? |
| 06:27.09 | wegstar | ok |
| 06:27.49 | noyb | pastebin? |
| 06:27.55 | wegstar | yeah |
| 06:28.25 | noyb | khule |
| 06:28.31 | wegstar | http://pastebin.ca/4124 |
| 06:29.27 | jpa- | 041 -ban "0.0.0.0" |
| 06:29.33 | noyb | uh, huh... |
| 06:29.35 | jpa- | what is that? |
| 06:29.44 | sgk284 | lol |
| 06:29.51 | wegstar | i don't know... |
| 06:30.01 | sgk284 | you write the config or get it from somewhere? |
| 06:30.05 | wegstar | wrote it |
| 06:30.10 | noyb | uh, oh... |
| 06:30.12 | sgk284 | howd that get in there? |
| 06:30.23 | wegstar | actually pulled it from old config... |
| 06:30.42 | sgk284 | get rid of it and try again |
| 06:30.45 | wegstar | ok |
| 06:31.07 | sgk284 | and check your ban file for ip's too |
| 06:31.14 | sgk284 | if the first thing doesnt work... |
| 06:31.17 | wegstar | ok |
| 06:31.33 | wegstar | banfile is empty |
| 06:31.37 | jpa- | that was quite good ban :) |
| 06:31.49 | sgk284 | also use a better server password if it goes public ;) |
| 06:31.57 | sgk284 | and try not to copy and paste it to the world:) |
| 06:32.01 | wegstar | yeah |
| 06:32.07 | wegstar | i changed it to that |
| 06:32.11 | sgk284 | oh okay |
| 06:32.18 | jpa- | swordfish is good password |
| 06:32.27 | wegstar | ok.. :) |
| 06:32.27 | jpa- | so you can type /password swordfish |
| 06:32.41 | sgk284 | is the new config up and running? |
| 06:32.49 | wegstar | yeah |
| 06:33.12 | DTRemenak | ~random |
| 06:33.21 | DTRemenak | heh |
| 06:33.21 | wegstar | hmm... |
| 06:33.36 | jpa- | ~urandom |
| 06:33.44 | DTRemenak | ~random |
| 06:33.46 | sgk284 | still cant play :( |
| 06:33.51 | jpa- | urandom is better :) |
| 06:34.00 | DTRemenak | there you go. zip48748 is probably a decent password :) |
| 06:34.06 | wegstar | right... |
| 06:34.09 | sgk284 | DTRemenak, the second point of the MOTD is getting cut off on freenode |
| 06:34.17 | DTRemenak | sgk284, actually it's not... |
| 06:34.22 | DTRemenak | it's just a shortened MOTD |
| 06:34.26 | sgk284 | oh... okay |
| 06:34.35 | DTRemenak | see http://bzflag.org/motd.php |
| 06:34.38 | sgk284 | excuses, excuses... |
| 06:34.40 | sgk284 | ;) |
| 06:34.54 | DTRemenak | probably some database limit |
| 06:35.18 | sgk284 | wegstar, you sure you restarted the server? |
| 06:35.23 | wegstar | yes |
| 06:35.33 | wegstar | let me do it again... |
| 06:35.57 | wegstar | yep |
| 06:36.08 | noyb | am I seeing the right map... a box in each corner? |
| 06:36.12 | wegstar | yes |
| 06:36.17 | sgk284 | is the server outputting anything useful? |
| 06:36.24 | `ls` | motd should really get moved to my.bzflag.org |
| 06:36.25 | sgk284 | you've got max debugging enabled |
| 06:36.27 | wegstar | ope nothing... |
| 06:36.27 | jpa- | use -dddd > log |
| 06:36.28 | wegstar | yes |
| 06:36.28 | noyb | ok... on 5154, right? |
| 06:36.36 | wegstar | yes |
| 06:36.57 | wegstar | wait |
| 06:37.02 | sgk284 | hey TimRiker :) |
| 06:37.10 | TimRiker | has curl been fixed to be non-blocking? |
| 06:37.26 | wegstar | >log? |
| 06:37.26 | TimRiker | if not I'd recommend leaving it disabled in public builds. |
| 06:37.40 | jpa- | wegstar: not to clutter your console |
| 06:37.49 | DTRemenak | TimRiker, if it's disabled then so is the MOTD and master ban list |
| 06:37.52 | wegstar | doesn't work |
| 06:37.54 | purple_cow | TimRiker: curl has been nonblocking for some time. the issue last time was that debian was (as usual) old |
| 06:38.19 | jpa- | wegstar: what are you using? 1.11.? bzfs on what platform? |
| 06:38.28 | sgk284 | hes on windows |
| 06:38.30 | wegstar | WinXp .36 |
| 06:38.54 | jpa- | ok, then don't put > log :) |
| 06:38.57 | wegstar | ok |
| 06:39.00 | sgk284 | wegstar, is your public addr node.game-server.cc ? |
| 06:39.06 | DTRemenak | the > log works on windows, actually |
| 06:39.14 | TimRiker | purple_cow: the functions that UrlManager calls are the _blocking_ versions. not the non-blocking ones. |
| 06:39.17 | DTRemenak | redirectors have been there since early early dos days |
| 06:39.29 | jpa- | DTRemenak: yes, but there is not "less" to read it :) |
| 06:39.37 | DTRemenak | jpa-, there is "notepad" |
| 06:39.38 | *** join/#bzflag mmu_man (revol@ALyon-112-1-13-117.w81-48.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 06:39.42 | sgk284 | yes there is... |
| 06:39.46 | purple_cow | ah |
| 06:39.47 | TimRiker | ie: curl_easy_perform() is documented to block. |
| 06:39.51 | sgk284 | or i'm sorry its more iirc |
| 06:39.54 | sgk284 | "more" |
| 06:39.56 | jpa- | DTRemenak: yes, but cmd has scroll, so no need |
| 06:40.09 | sgk284 | wegstar, is your public addr node.game-server.cc ? |
| 06:40.14 | wegstar | yes |
| 06:40.29 | DTRemenak | TimRiker, iirc, debian stable does not support the non-blocking interface. correct me if I'm wrong. |
| 06:40.36 | sgk284 | jpa- vim for dos would be your best bet:) |
| 06:41.03 | jpa- | sgk284: two things i hate put together |
| 06:41.09 | jpa- | sgk284: sounds good :) |
| 06:41.14 | sgk284 | lol |
| 06:41.17 | sgk284 | emacs? |
| 06:41.21 | jpa- | no |
| 06:41.23 | jpa- | kate <3 |
| 06:41.32 | sgk284 | ouch... |
| 06:41.33 | DTRemenak | jpa-, you disgust me :) |
| 06:41.58 | jpa- | DTRemenak: don't come to my server then, either. the map is made with kate |
| 06:42.05 | jpa- | _completely_ with kate :) |
| 06:42.09 | DTRemenak | heh, I'm just poking fun at you :) |
| 06:42.20 | sgk284 | first thing i do to any windows box i have to use for an extended period is plop cygwin on it and grab vim for windows...otherwise the box is more or less useless:) |
| 06:42.43 | jpa- | vim is useless |
| 06:42.49 | DTRemenak | one of the nice things about open source is that there's variety. just because I don't like kate doesn't mean you can't use it and even enjoy it if you want to :) |
| 06:43.26 | sgk284 | wow jpa-... you obvioulsy havent spent the time to learn it |
| 06:43.26 | jpa- | text starts to show only after typing 10 charachters and after typing you can not save the text, anyway |
| 06:43.27 | noyb | oh, boy... let's stop the crusades before people get killed. |
| 06:43.49 | DTRemenak | (and congrats on learning all the new map syntax) |
| 06:44.10 | sgk284 | jpa- there are two modes... insert and command... hit i to start inserting text, to save it use :w |
| 06:44.26 | sgk284 | but its functionality is nearly limitless |
| 06:44.28 | jpa- | DTRemenak: yes, i reverse-engineered it from trepans maps |
| 06:44.39 | sgk284 | and then emacs... well thats nearly an OS in and of itself |
| 06:44.40 | jpa- | sgk284: i know, that was just a joke :) |
| 06:44.40 | DTRemenak | type "i", type the text you want, type esc, then :wq, hit enter. done. don't even have to take your hands off the keyboard :) |
| 06:44.51 | noyb | isn't there an #editors channel or something? |
| 06:44.55 | DTRemenak | hehe |
| 06:45.15 | DTRemenak | kate is qt, if that's what you mean |
| 06:45.16 | jpa- | DTRemenak: if i have to do it in the console, i shall just use nano :) |
| 06:45.20 | jpa- | learner: it is :) |
| 06:45.31 | DTRemenak | nano is cool, but I hate having to move my hand to the arrow keys :) |
| 06:45.35 | learner | DTRemenak: =) |
| 06:45.51 | jpa- | learner: and even i was able to make bzw syntax highlighting for it |
| 06:45.58 | DTRemenak | nifty :) |
| 06:45.59 | jpa- | :) |
| 06:46.16 | sgk284 | wegstar, whats going on with your situation? |
| 06:46.19 | learner | jpa-, heh, cute, though that's not exactly what I meant on the first cute :) |
| 06:46.43 | wegstar | I don't know... |
| 06:46.48 | noyb | a chicken in every pot, and a different editor in every terminal... |
| 06:46.50 | jpa- | learner: but i replied to that too :) |
| 06:46.56 | DTRemenak | learner, :) |
| 06:47.06 | DTRemenak | ~noyb++ |
| 06:47.23 | noyb | whee! |
| 06:47.26 | DTRemenak | blessed are the peacemakers :) |
| 06:47.27 | jpa- | learner: and it is cute in that way, i can split windows to hundred pieces and have different portions of map on those :) |
| 06:47.44 | wegstar | I found this message: "Too much UDP Traffic- hope to catch up later" |
| 06:47.53 | noyb | DTRemenak: ty |
| 06:48.06 | jpa- | learner: or no, it is not cute. i don't think it has any penguins |
| 06:48.17 | TimRiker | DTRemenak: not planning to build release for debian stable anyway, just for testing and unstable. |
| 06:48.32 | DTRemenak | TimRiker, hm, ok |
| 06:48.34 | TimRiker | can still build without curl at present. |
| 06:48.59 | TimRiker | in fact that's what I'd like to see. all platforms disable curl until it's non-blocking. |
| 06:49.51 | learner | jpa-, heh, you completely missed the hint that perhaps kate is a girl |
| 06:50.08 | jpa- | learner: a girl? ewwwwwwwwww |
| 06:50.22 | *** join/#bzflag Mr_Molez (~admin@ACBC2C0C.ipt.aol.com) |
| 06:50.29 | CIA-2 | BZFlag: 03timriker * 10bzflag/TODO: recommend disabling curl |
| 06:50.30 | jpa- | it is kde advanced text editor :) |
| 06:50.40 | sgk284 | wegstar, try updating cvs and rebuilding |
| 06:50.55 | wegstar | um... ok... |
| 06:51.06 | Mr_Molez | hi :) |
| 06:51.17 | jpa- | purple_cow: well, you are strange :) |
| 06:51.39 | jpa- | qt is easier |
| 06:51.42 | sgk284 | is there a limit on how long the server message can be? |
| 06:51.56 | jpa- | it does not argue if you stay in computer for hours |
| 06:52.50 | wegstar | cvs... now what? |
| 06:53.14 | sgk284 | nevermind... |
| 06:53.42 | sgk284 | did you compile your current server? |
| 06:54.01 | wegstar | no, i just downloaded the binaries... |
| 06:54.47 | wegstar | actually.. well.. JeffM gave me a new bzfs.exe and that dll... |
| 06:54.53 | sgk284 | in your config try uncommenting the noudp line |
| 06:54.58 | purple_cow | ooo |
| 06:55.00 | wegstar | ok |
| 06:55.00 | sgk284 | udp seems to be the issue |
| 06:55.09 | purple_cow | JeffM2501 is such a scoundrel |
| 06:55.30 | wegstar | ??? |
| 06:55.35 | learner | w00t, configure now properly checks for the SDL framework without ungracefully failing on the sdl-config |
| 06:55.35 | JeffM2501 | > |
| 06:55.36 | JeffM2501 | ? |
| 06:55.36 | wegstar | ok |
| 06:55.40 | sgk284 | interestingly enough on my fedora machine i can't connect to anyother servers other then secretplace because of some udp issue... havent figured it out yet |
| 06:55.53 | DTRemenak | learner, just on mac or on all platforms? |
| 06:56.08 | wegstar | -noudp is that right? |
| 06:56.14 | jpa- | no |
| 06:56.23 | DTRemenak | SuSE ships without sdl-config even though it ships with sdl (stupid) |
| 06:56.23 | jpa- | upd is nice |
| 06:56.32 | jpa- | it makes your server behave better |
| 06:56.33 | learner | DTRemenak: hrm? it'll check if the compiler option is valid.. if not, does what it did |
| 06:56.44 | purple_cow | DTRemenak: sdl-config probably comes with a -devel package... |
| 06:56.49 | sgk284 | jpa- this is just to test if udp is the problem |
| 06:56.49 | DTRemenak | ok, so it's a mac-ish thing |
| 06:56.51 | learner | didn't change current sdl test logic |
| 06:56.54 | DTRemenak | purple_cow, not even then |
| 06:56.55 | sgk284 | wegstar uncomment it |
| 06:57.00 | sgk284 | and restart |
| 06:57.00 | jpa- | sgk284: well, for that yes |
| 06:57.06 | wegstar | errors- |
| 06:57.08 | JeffM2501 | leaner need me to run anything? |
| 06:57.20 | learner | purple_cow, sdl folks don't ship it in either of the two mac package downloads |
| 06:57.27 | learner | JeffM2501, almost |
| 06:57.35 | wegstar | bad argumetn -noudp |
| 06:57.36 | learner | have to do a similar test for curl now |
| 06:57.39 | sgk284 | wait a second.... doesnt sp2 stop like outbound traffic or somethign unless you okay it? |
| 06:57.41 | purple_cow | weird |
| 06:57.46 | learner | indeed |
| 06:57.49 | wegstar | i did ok it |
| 06:57.49 | learner | i'd call it a bug |
| 06:57.53 | sgk284 | might just be a sp2 issue |
| 06:58.04 | sgk284 | wegstar, udp as well as tcp? |
| 06:58.07 | wegstar | yes |
| 06:58.25 | JeffM2501 | awake even |
| 06:58.39 | sgk284 | yea i'm tired, i have to get to sleep |
| 06:58.41 | sgk284 | g night |
| 06:58.42 | wegstar | I ran a server successfully with 1.10.8 |
| 06:58.44 | wegstar | ok |
| 06:58.58 | JeffM2501 | you should get somone to make you a VC6 build |
| 06:59.09 | wegstar | yeah... |
| 06:59.12 | wegstar | anyone? |
| 06:59.15 | wegstar | heh |
| 06:59.24 | wegstar | oooh Dev-C++ |
| 06:59.25 | DTRemenak | blast is the only one around with VC6 that I know of |
| 06:59.58 | *** join/#bzflag Tupone (Tupone@84.222.136.224) |
| 07:00.12 | wegstar | at least it still works... |
| 07:00.59 | JeffM2501 | the other builds work for everyone else |
| 07:01.11 | wegstar | oh well |
| 07:01.47 | JeffM2501 | it's like you got an odd version of winsock |
| 07:02.07 | JeffM2501 | XP home? or pro? |
| 07:02.12 | wegstar | XP pro |
| 07:02.39 | JeffM2501 | wierd |
| 07:03.48 | TimRiker | learner: adding a curl test now... |
| 07:04.13 | wegstar | I forget.. but I did do something to winsock... but that was in 1.10.8 and the server worked fine... |
| 07:04.53 | JeffM2501 | you soudn't have to do anything to it |
| 07:05.00 | JeffM2501 | you SURE you don't have the firewall on |
| 07:05.04 | JeffM2501 | its application based |
| 07:05.18 | JeffM2501 | so it may be set to let the old one thru |
| 07:05.18 | JeffM2501 | but not the new one |
| 07:05.18 | wegstar | yes |
| 07:05.26 | wegstar | i did change all that |
| 07:05.49 | CIA-2 | BZFlag: 03brlcad * 10bzflag/src/platform/MacOSX/ (5 files in 2 dirs): and with a flick of the wrist, the Mac Xcode project disappears |
| 07:06.44 | Thumper_ | I'm off. cya 'tomorrow' |
| 07:06.59 | wegstar | me too.. gotta sleep :) |
| 07:07.07 | noyb | later |
| 07:07.15 | jpa- | eww |
| 07:07.15 | *** part/#bzflag wegstar (~wegstar@adsl-64-175-251-162.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net) |
| 07:07.21 | jpa- | you all are corrupted! |
| 07:07.30 | Thumper_ | well it's morning for you jpa |
| 07:07.35 | jpa- | sleeping is not necessary |
| 07:07.41 | jpa- | hmm..so? |
| 07:07.46 | Thumper_ | um it's 2AM and I beg to differ... :) |
| 07:08.08 | jpa- | stay up for 5hours and you can get up |
| 07:08.14 | JeffM2501 | it's a game, it'll be here tomorow |
| 07:08.28 | jpa- | are you sure? |
| 07:08.41 | JeffM2501 | yes |
| 07:08.53 | jpa- | if they publish it in the meanwhile and we lose our possibility to be pioneers |
| 07:09.04 | DTRemenak | jpa-, sleeping is necessary for those of us who want to actually understand anything in physics at 9am... |
| 07:09.25 | JeffM2501 | they can't publish it if he's asleep, he does the windows build |
| 07:09.25 | jpa- | i could understand it just while |
| 07:09.34 | jpa- | (after sleeping ~10hours :) |
| 07:09.40 | CIA-2 | BZFlag: 03brlcad * 10bzflag/configure.in: |
| 07:09.40 | CIA-2 | BZFlag: add to SDL testing so that the -framework SDL is used when SDL is enabled and is |
| 07:09.40 | CIA-2 | BZFlag: a successful compilation flag. rework X11 inclusion on mac to .. not include |
| 07:09.42 | CIA-2 | BZFlag: X11. output a settings summary since a summary block is starting to take form. |
| 07:09.51 | DTRemenak | heh, they can release if they want. they just won't have a windows build :) |
| 07:10.22 | jpa- | or they can use hexeditor to change version on cvs build |
| 07:10.44 | DTRemenak | or they could potentially get someone else to do it, it's not that hard |
| 07:10.45 | learner | or a mac build right this second |
| 07:10.55 | learner | that leaves what? 4% of players? :) |
| 07:11.06 | DTRemenak | but the only other person who has experience with it most likely would refuse to do it :) |
| 07:11.25 | noyb | pwd |
| 07:11.28 | jpa- | they still have hexedit :) |
| 07:11.29 | DTRemenak | ~ |
| 07:11.32 | noyb | find . -name \*proj |
| 07:11.43 | jpa- | s/1.11.36/2.00.00/ |
| 07:12.15 | noyb | well, that won't work here... wrong window. :) |
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| 07:12.24 | DTRemenak | jpa-, in order to do that you'd have to extract it from the installer and then rebuild the installer. at that point it's easier just to package a different build. |
| 07:12.34 | jpa- | :) |
| 07:15.16 | learner | TimRiker, can't be serious about changing something like curl's inclusion this close to posting?? |
| 07:15.26 | *** part/#bzflag Tupone (Tupone@84.222.136.224) |
| 07:15.51 | learner | TimRiker, testing done so far shows it's working quite acceptibly, blocking or not |
| 07:15.53 | noyb | power sleeper... |
| 07:16.20 | noyb | he's ready for another 24h |
| 07:16.21 | learner | and there are many features dependant upon it being there |
| 07:17.31 | learner | I would agree that it would be a good priority for 2.0.2 |
| 07:17.54 | learner | especially if there's any hint of it being a problem, which is yet to be seen... |
| 07:18.45 | JeffM2501 | what's he want to do? add it as an option? |
| 07:19.00 | learner | purple_cow: hehe |
| 07:19.13 | MeBigFatGuy | nifty |
| 07:19.25 | learner | JeffM2501, disable it |
| 07:19.43 | jpa- | ~dict nifty |
| 07:20.01 | JeffM2501 | and do what in it's place? |
| 07:20.22 | TimRiker | learner if bzflag.org goes down and SF often does, all clients and servers will hang for like 30 seconds. |
| 07:20.27 | DTRemenak | TimRiker: basically what you're demanding is either 1. a complete rewrite of URLManager and everything that uses it or 2. completely disabling MOTD, master bans, and url-fetching of binary worlds, at a minimum. |
| 07:20.59 | TimRiker | DTRemenak: understood. and how long has my comment been in TODO? |
| 07:21.01 | DTRemenak | it's a 10-sec timeout for most stuff |
| 07:21.09 | CIA-2 | BZFlag: 03davidtrowbridge * 10bzflag/src/common/TextUtils.cxx: This has been bugging me for some time. Maybe this fix even works ;) |
| 07:21.29 | learner | TimRiker, hence why it should be a fix priority immediately after release.. but to change it to off right now is pretty drastic and rather untested |
| 07:21.31 | TimRiker | DTRemenak: my experience showed a 30 second to 2 minute timeout at work (firewalled) |
| 07:21.49 | MeBigFatGuy | hehe |
| 07:21.51 | MeBigFatGuy | cuel |
| 07:22.01 | learner | he's a good cow |
| 07:22.24 | learner | jpa-, patches sometimes welcome ;) |
| 07:22.35 | DTRemenak | TimRiker, is there a way to set the timeout in curl? |
| 07:22.45 | JeffM2501 | there totaly is |
| 07:22.57 | jpa- | learner: but i don't think you want the only patches i have made :P |
| 07:22.59 | JeffM2501 | and you can inturupt the loop with callbacks and any time |
| 07:23.18 | jpa- | learner: like do-not-kill-over-50m patch or report-exploding-height :) |
| 07:23.20 | DTRemenak | so why don't we set a more aggresive timeout value and leave it at that? |
| 07:23.22 | TimRiker | DTRemenak: I'd be happy with a very short timeout, but I expect that SF my lag longer that is reasonable for many. |
| 07:23.34 | DTRemenak | yeah, 30 secs or more is too long |
| 07:23.50 | learner | yeah |
| 07:23.56 | TimRiker | I'm not so concerned with the bzfs startup curl lags.. they either happen or they dont. |
| 07:23.58 | learner | perhaps 5 or 10 |
| 07:24.13 | TimRiker | if the server takes 2 minutes to timeout on startup, no biggie. |
| 07:24.34 | jpa- | it is big on some servers |
| 07:24.37 | TimRiker | the interface hanging for 2 minutes was very unpleasent. |
| 07:24.53 | DTRemenak | yeah, I can imagine |
| 07:25.05 | jpa- | olympics is python generated |
| 07:25.16 | jpa- | and resets when there are no players |
| 07:25.17 | JeffM2501 | perhaps a "offline" option in the config |
| 07:25.28 | JeffM2501 | for those that don't want it to automaticly check net stuff |
| 07:25.51 | MeBigFatGuy | with deference to the purple one, this doesn't seem right |
| 07:25.52 | MeBigFatGuy | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:25.53 | MeBigFatGuy | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:25.59 | learner | so how about we just force a smaller timeout then |
| 07:26.17 | DTRemenak | JeffM2501: that could be useful for people who only play on lans, but I wonder how much confusion it would cause for accidental settings on Internetted machines |
| 07:26.21 | learner | MeBigFatGuy, he did say it was "bs" ;) |
| 07:26.22 | TimRiker | I also see a lockup if I provide a password and can't get to the list server. Don't know how many will see that unless the server is down. |
| 07:26.30 | MeBigFatGuy | :) |
| 07:26.35 | JeffM2501 | put a small timeout as default but the the config overide it |
| 07:26.41 | JeffM2501 | then best of all worlds |
| 07:26.48 | JeffM2501 | 0 timeout means don't even check |
| 07:26.48 | TimRiker | it happens to me cause I take my laptop around. sometimes I'm firewalled and sometimes not. |
| 07:26.50 | DTRemenak | TimRiker, that's a 10-sec timeout. |
| 07:26.57 | MeBigFatGuy | unless that returns a size without actually doing any byte movement |
| 07:27.09 | MeBigFatGuy | in that case, woowoo |
| 07:27.29 | TimRiker | DTRemenak: sounds about right. it freezes the interface completely for those 10 seconds though. |
| 07:27.43 | DTRemenak | yeah, it's not very friendly. I think I mentioned that when I stuck it in. |
| 07:28.01 | jpa- | in that time i can press ctrl-alt-backspace :) |
| 07:28.10 | TimRiker | DTRemenak: nod. that one is easy to avoid, just empty the password field. |
| 07:28.26 | TimRiker | DTRemenak: but it does the MOTD lookup anyway so then I still hang. |
| 07:28.35 | trepan | MOTD is also easy to avoid, use disableMOTD |
| 07:28.49 | CIA-2 | BZFlag: 03dbrosius * 10bzflag/src/common/TextUtils.cxx: warnings |
| 07:29.11 | DTRemenak | trepan, even then accidentally not setting it would trigger a timeout that's way to long (if it's 30 secs or 2 mins...) |
| 07:29.17 | SportChick | DTRemenak: were you able to get the admin channel fixed? |
| 07:29.31 | DTRemenak | SportChick, yeah it works |
| 07:29.51 | DTRemenak | DEFAULT has adminMessageSend, ADMIN has adminMessageReceive, by default |
| 07:30.52 | learner | sounds like the timeouts just need to be decreased to something small for all the connections |
| 07:31.04 | DTRemenak | learner, yup |
| 07:31.13 | jpa- | DTRemenak: you should be sleeping and gaining more evil programming powers |
| 07:31.42 | JeffM2501 | he is a jedi, they crave not these things. |
| 07:31.45 | trepan | for big maps, you'll still want a longer curl timeout |
| 07:32.05 | trepan | or a hook to stop them halfway through |
| 07:32.11 | DTRemenak | trepan, I imagine it's an idle-timeout |
| 07:32.22 | DTRemenak | that would make most sense |
| 07:32.28 | trepan | DTRemenak: sure about it? |
| 07:32.34 | DTRemenak | should probably make sure |
| 07:32.50 | JeffM2501 | the progress callback can be used for early term |
| 07:32.53 | DTRemenak | heh, 2 mins would so not be enough for some maps on dialup :) |
| 07:33.01 | TimRiker | wll, I'm defaulting to off till the timeouts and/or api are corrected. |
| 07:33.18 | SportChick | DTRemenak: thanks |
| 07:33.48 | CIA-2 | BZFlag: 03timriker * 10bzflag/configure.in: libcurl defaults to off till we fix it |
| 07:34.22 | TimRiker | still there, just needs --enable-curl to turn it on. |
| 07:34.52 | learner | k, see if we can fix those timeouts then |
| 07:35.38 | JeffM2501 | cus that dosn't turn it off on windows |
| 07:37.22 | noyb | does F12 work during the interface lockup? |
| 07:37.29 | JeffM2501 | the timeout is 60 seconds |
| 07:37.47 | DTRemenak | TimRiker, for future reference: if you intended this issue to be blocking when you added it to the TODO, it would have been nice for it to go in the "BEFORE NEXT RELEASE" section...someone may have paid it more than passing attention then. |
| 07:40.18 | TimRiker | I thought it was above the line for a while, but I'm not sure. |
| 07:40.43 | TimRiker | I had always been building without curl. |
| 07:41.00 | DTRemenak | afaik nobody but you has moved stuff from above it to below it. might be wrong, if so, I apologize. |
| 07:41.37 | TimRiker | I thought that the curl features were "bonus" features for those who had curl, it's only recently that I've been testing them for performance rather than just reviewing the code. |
| 07:42.14 | TimRiker | DTRemenak: nod. some stuff got moved by me to below the line cause nobody (including me ;-) was working on it. |
| 07:42.20 | learner | the performance is fine, the fault tolerance and fallback is not |
| 07:43.05 | Pimpinella | hey, there's curl in bz? |
| 07:43.08 | TimRiker | there are tons of great things that have been added and we need to get them into wider usage to test them well, imho. hence things that could be postponed were moved below the line. |
| 07:43.34 | TimRiker | learner: ok, I'll accept that terminology if you like. |
| 07:44.33 | JeffM2501 | #1101454 |
| 07:44.50 | MeBigFatGuy | patch? |
| 07:44.58 | JeffM2501 | are they not welcome? |
| 07:45.02 | JeffM2501 | was I misleed? |
| 07:45.12 | MeBigFatGuy | i thought one just slapped it in |
| 07:45.14 | DTRemenak | JeffM2501, sf ate your attached file |
| 07:45.20 | TimRiker | JeffM2501: patch for what? |
| 07:45.44 | DTRemenak | MeBigFatGuy, one does, if one has not removed onesself from the project |
| 07:45.44 | JeffM2501 | adding a config based URL timeout |
| 07:45.53 | JeffM2501 | hmm SF does not want to take said patch |
| 07:45.55 | MeBigFatGuy | one removed oneself? |
| 07:46.03 | MeBigFatGuy | how silly |
| 07:46.04 | learner | JeffM2501, checkbox? |
| 07:46.05 | JeffM2501 | I do not have ssh |
| 07:46.14 | TimRiker | Tupone reminds me that he did a version using multi and it was removed back in the spring as I expressed the desire to have it still work on debian-stable. |
| 07:46.29 | JeffM2501 | who put that checkbod there |
| 07:46.35 | learner | hehe |
| 07:46.36 | MeBigFatGuy | hehe |
| 07:46.41 | JeffM2501 | MeBigFatGuy: I am on the pserver now |
| 07:46.43 | DTRemenak | yeah, he did both ends of the listserver in curl multi |
| 07:46.43 | TimRiker | the sources have moved around since then, so I didn't yet find the old code. |
| 07:47.31 | JeffM2501 | the patch file is there |
| 07:47.42 | JeffM2501 | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:47.47 | TimRiker | =) |
| 07:47.52 | DTRemenak | using that code directly will not work very well any more, because of the URLManager class. URLManager would have to be rewritten to use callbacks or else we'd have to go multithread. |
| 07:48.03 | JeffM2501 | are patches not welcome? |
| 07:48.07 | DTRemenak | otherwise curl wouldn't block but URLManager would |
| 07:48.08 | TimRiker | JeffM2501: sure. |
| 07:48.16 | JeffM2501 | then there is a patch |
| 07:48.17 | TimRiker | DTRemenak: nod |
| 07:48.47 | JeffM2501 | URL manager should be made to take a "job" and ether make a thread and call a callback, or be polled |
| 07:49.11 | purple_cow | MeBigFatGuy: that may not be a documented use of vsnprintf, but i do believe it's a valid one |
| 07:49.36 | DTRemenak | purple_cow, undocumented is likely invalid on some platform :) |
| 07:49.47 | Pimpinella | can i use curl to autoreport match results via http? |
| 07:50.03 | JeffM2501 | curl is an API |
| 07:50.15 | MeBigFatGuy | otay |
| 07:50.16 | purple_cow | DTRemenak: pfft. i'm pretty sure lots of others use it this same way |
| 07:50.21 | JeffM2501 | it can do what ever a web browser can |
| 07:51.01 | DTRemenak | TimRiker, http://cvs.sf.net/viewcvs.py/bzflag/bzflag/src/bzflag/ServerMenu.cxx?view=log see revisions 1.5 (commit) 1.7 (revert) |
| 07:52.04 | CIA-2 | BZFlag: 03brlcad * 10bzflag/src/ (bzflag/bzflag.cxx common/URLManager.cxx game/NetHandler.cxx): accept sf patch 115668 from jeffm2501 -- makes default curl timeout 15 seconds and adds a configurable bzdb var for it as well. |
| 07:52.30 | learner | heh |
| 07:52.47 | JeffM2501 | don't forget to change the config.in if you want curl to be default again. |
| 07:53.00 | JeffM2501 | on you makefile freaks :) |
| 07:53.34 | MeBigFatGuy | awl he beat me |
| 07:53.38 | MeBigFatGuy | i actually tried to compile |
| 07:53.43 | DTRemenak | heh :) |
| 07:54.20 | MeBigFatGuy | scoundrel |
| 07:54.36 | learner | =) |
| 07:54.42 | learner | too slow old man :) |
| 07:54.51 | JeffM2501 | his powers are weak |
| 07:55.04 | JeffM2501 | onece you were the learner, now you will become the master |
| 07:55.20 | JeffM2501 | tho he will become more powerfull then you can ever imagine |
| 07:55.22 | MeBigFatGuy | too true |
| 07:55.23 | JeffM2501 | and kinda blue |
| 07:55.26 | JeffM2501 | and wispy |
| 07:55.39 | MeBigFatGuy | at least it looks like i won the sf close |
| 07:55.56 | MeBigFatGuy | hehe |
| 07:56.12 | learner | the MeBigFatGuy usually whips my pants on the commit race, so I can't really say anything :) |
| 07:57.39 | learner | =) |
| 07:57.42 | DTRemenak | JeffM2501, thanks, btw :) |
| 07:57.46 | JeffM2501 | sure |
| 07:57.53 | JeffM2501 | 4 lines or somethign like that |
| 07:57.55 | learner | he's one fast monkey |
| 07:57.57 | DTRemenak | would have taken me much longer |
| 07:58.11 | JeffM2501 | well I am a bit familar with the URL manager |
| 07:58.16 | DTRemenak | heh :) |
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| 07:59.17 | learner | ahh, need framework on the cppflag too |
| 07:59.32 | JeffM2501 | apple keyboards are beerproof right? |
| 08:00.03 | MeBigFatGuy | the one with the built-in coaster? yes |
| 08:00.12 | JeffM2501 | no the keyboard |
| 08:00.21 | MeBigFatGuy | thats what i meant |
| 08:00.31 | JeffM2501 | hope the MS one is too |
| 08:00.44 | learner | should be |
| 08:00.52 | CIA-2 | BZFlag: 03brlcad * 10bzflag/configure.in: need framework on cppflags for the headers |
| 08:00.54 | learner | but I wouldn't drink that beer |
| 08:01.04 | DTRemenak | ewww |
| 08:01.19 | TimRiker | do all platforms have vsnprintf now? |
| 08:01.38 | JeffM2501 | oh the beer was nasy |
| 08:01.43 | JeffM2501 | hence why it was spilled |
| 08:01.51 | JeffM2501 | more like beer flavored watter |
| 08:02.11 | learner | ahh, yucky |
| 08:02.27 | purple_cow | TimRiker: i'd hope so |
| 08:02.37 | purple_cow | iirc vsnprintf is POSIX |
| 08:02.42 | DTRemenak | TimRiker, it's used in MsgStrings.cxx |
| 08:02.53 | DTRemenak | and we've confirmed the build on all platforms but IRIX already |
| 08:03.11 | purple_cow | man page sez vsnprintf is BSD 4.4 |
| 08:03.13 | DTRemenak | so I'd guess it is. I'd expect it to be missing from solaris before IRIX |
| 08:03.14 | purple_cow | so yes, pretty sure everything supports it ;) |
| 08:03.24 | purple_cow | DTRemenak: IRIX has everything |
| 08:03.58 | DTRemenak | we can probably remove the hack around its nonexistence from TextUtils, actually |
| 08:04.04 | TimRiker | DTRemenak: thanx. reading. |
| 08:04.05 | DTRemenak | or do some configure juju |
| 08:04.11 | JeffM2501 | cv default |
| 08:04.15 | JeffM2501 | vc even |
| 08:04.21 | MeBigFatGuy | ah |
| 08:04.45 | DTRemenak | although...I'm not sure VC6 was building MsgStrings.cxx at all... |
| 08:04.55 | JeffM2501 | nope 2 2 keep tabs |
| 08:05.36 | DTRemenak | so we should probably check against VC6 |
| 08:06.26 | TimRiker | DTRemenak: re vsnprintf. cool. |
| 08:07.01 | noyb | ~google vsnprintf |
| 08:07.03 | purple_cow | hurray, i succeeded in stirring things up :) |
| 08:08.17 | CIA-2 | BZFlag: 03brlcad * 10bzflag/configure.in: do what zlib does -- use vsprintf if vsnprintf isn't available |
| 08:08.33 | CIA-2 | BZFlag: 03brlcad * 10bzflag/src/ (common/TextUtils.cxx common/bzfio.cxx game/MsgStrings.cxx): do what zlib does -- use vsprintf if vsnprintf isn't available |
| 08:08.41 | JeffM2501 | learner: what was I drinkin when I wrote libIRC? |
| 08:08.43 | TimRiker | does curl use adns if it's there? perhaps I was seeing both http and dns timeouts. |
| 08:09.19 | purple_cow | hmm, drinkin |
| 08:09.32 | learner | JeffM2501, hehe |
| 08:09.40 | DTRemenak | brlcad, what's the #define for that? #HAVE_VSNPRINTF? |
| 08:09.45 | DTRemenak | err, without the # |
| 08:09.49 | JeffM2501 | I mean that's a LOT of code |
| 08:10.06 | TimRiker | + if (err != EAGAIN ) { |
| 08:10.06 | TimRiker | + nerror("error on write EAGAIN"); ?? |
| 08:10.16 | JeffM2501 | oops |
| 08:10.18 | DTRemenak | heh |
| 08:10.19 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 08:10.25 | JeffM2501 | you can take that out |
| 08:10.37 | JeffM2501 | that was debug code to help that guy that can't work on windows |
| 08:10.38 | TimRiker | or at least reverse the logic. |
| 08:10.49 | JeffM2501 | just revert that part |
| 08:10.55 | JeffM2501 | it was just to see what one it hit |
| 08:11.14 | TimRiker | JeffM2501: but it reports it incorrectly, no? |
| 08:11.17 | JeffM2501 | No purple_cow this stuff is prety damned slick |
| 08:11.21 | JeffM2501 | TimRiker: he never got there |
| 08:11.22 | learner | DTRemenak, already ahead of ya |
| 08:11.24 | JeffM2501 | so we didn't know |
| 08:11.29 | CIA-2 | BZFlag: 03brlcad * 10bzflag/ (Dev-C++/config.h win32/VC6/config.h win32/VC71/config.h): let the windows folk know that they have vsnprintf |
| 08:11.30 | TimRiker | JeffM2501: ah |
| 08:11.42 | DTRemenak | learner, vc6 doesn't |
| 08:11.43 | JeffM2501 | just forgot it was in this codebase |
| 08:11.46 | JeffM2501 | when I made the patch |
| 08:11.49 | DTRemenak | it uses _vsnprintf |
| 08:11.52 | learner | DTRemenak, heh.. really?? |
| 08:11.56 | learner | ahh, that's fine |
| 08:11.59 | DTRemenak | the dumb ms underscore thing |
| 08:12.12 | learner | there's a block in common or global.h that accounts for it |
| 08:12.18 | DTRemenak | is there? |
| 08:12.44 | learner | sillily based on HAVE_STRICMP |
| 08:12.47 | DTRemenak | ah, so ther is |
| 08:13.07 | learner | so vc71 has it? |
| 08:13.10 | DTRemenak | yeah, that's pretty silly. in fact, it's bogus, not like anyone will ever notice |
| 08:13.15 | learner | and i assume dev does |
| 08:13.24 | learner | er, devc++ |
| 08:13.25 | DTRemenak | yeah, vc71 does |
| 08:13.33 | JeffM2501 | drop VC6 support, there is a free .net out there |
| 08:13.35 | DTRemenak | and mingw almost certainly does |
| 08:13.52 | DTRemenak | JeffM2501, some people don't like to upgrade. I gave up on VC5 though :) |
| 08:13.56 | TimRiker | JeffM2501: free .net? |
| 08:14.07 | JeffM2501 | .net 2k5 express beta |
| 08:14.13 | DTRemenak | JeffM2501, and do we know that bz compiles on express? |
| 08:14.20 | JeffM2501 | it should |
| 08:14.28 | JeffM2501 | it just dosn't optimise |
| 08:14.37 | JeffM2501 | somone shoudl test tho |
| 08:14.40 | DTRemenak | we'll consider that for next release then |
| 08:15.00 | DTRemenak | for now, the vc6 project is confirmed to work (or was until purple_cow dropped his bomb ;) ) |
| 08:15.12 | TimRiker | JeffM2501: ah. the beta. |
| 08:15.13 | JeffM2501 | other stuff uses vsprintfIIRC |
| 08:15.33 | JeffM2501 | TimRiker: the final looks to be free to at least some people ( students and non profits) and cheap to others. |
| 08:15.40 | DTRemenak | JeffM2501, yeah. learner was right, there's a block for it already in common.h |
| 08:16.03 | TimRiker | ./include/common.h:66:# define vsnprintf _vsnprintf |
| 08:16.09 | DTRemenak | yup |
| 08:16.11 | JeffM2501 | there ya go then |
| 08:16.21 | JeffM2501 | that's been in there for a long time IIRC |
| 08:16.26 | DTRemenak | yup |
| 08:16.42 | CIA-2 | BZFlag: 03davidtrowbridge * 10bzflag/src/common/TextUtils.cxx: learner, vsprintf is spelled "vsprintf", not "vsnprintf" |
| 08:17.30 | learner | purple_cow, and I bet you expect me to compile that too .. pfft |
| 08:18.45 | purple_cow | heh |
| 08:18.51 | purple_cow | compiling is for chumps |
| 08:19.31 | DTRemenak | hmm, I still get "libcurl disabled" on ./configure. has noone changed configure.in back yet? |
| 08:19.50 | Mr_Molez | chumps ? every package on my system has been compiled |
| 08:20.21 | DTRemenak | and for that matter, I also get "no SDL!" even though this system has SDL and it worked just fine before... |
| 08:20.29 | purple_cow | chumps *and* suckers |
| 08:20.35 | Mr_Molez | lol |
| 08:20.40 | Mr_Molez | what is sdl ne way |
| 08:21.00 | JeffM2501 | ahh it's only a partial optimising compilker |
| 08:21.07 | JeffM2501 | it shoudl work fine for what bz does |
| 08:21.20 | JeffM2501 | the only come with beers |
| 08:21.24 | CIA-2 | BZFlag: 03brlcad * 10bzflag/ (configure.in include/common.h win32/VC6/config.h): add checks for _stricmp, _strnicmp, and _vsnprintf for vc6's sanity and to clean up common.h |
| 08:21.37 | learner | purple_cow, suckers and lollipops? |
| 08:22.39 | TimRiker | learner planning to change TextUtils.cxx to match? |
| 08:22.46 | DTRemenak | ooh, this is special |
| 08:22.49 | learner | TimRiker, for ? |
| 08:23.00 | DTRemenak | checking for sdl-config... /usr/bin/sdl-config |
| 08:23.05 | DTRemenak | checking for SDL - version >= 1.2.5... yes |
| 08:23.12 | DTRemenak | configure: WARNING: could not find an appropriate SDL version. BZflag will build without SDL |
| 08:23.17 | DTRemenak | it's lying to me! |
| 08:23.21 | TimRiker | you #ifdef'ed one vsnprintf and left the other. |
| 08:23.42 | learner | TimRiker, ah you mean the _* functions.. they enable a #define in common like they always have..just added checks for the rest of us |
| 08:24.02 | learner | TimRiker, ahh, cow fixed that already |
| 08:24.06 | TimRiker | no I mean:+ int bs = vsprintf(buffer, fmt, args); |
| 08:24.06 | TimRiker | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:24.06 | TimRiker | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:24.06 | TimRiker | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:24.19 | learner | oh, i missed one?? |
| 08:24.20 | learner | hrmph |
| 08:24.42 | purple_cow | learner: yes, but mostly suckers |
| 08:24.42 | TimRiker | and does the configure test include common so it'll use _ versions if they exist? |
| 08:26.27 | learner | TimRiker, other way around.. common uses what configure detects to determine if it can use _ in place of the "real thing" |
| 08:26.56 | TimRiker | ok. |
| 08:27.15 | learner | which is how we already did it actually.. just added more checks (they were all clumped in with the detection of stricmp) |
| 08:30.59 | CIA-2 | BZFlag: 03dtremenak * 10bzflag/configure.in: Actually reenable SDL if it was disabled by the framework check but found by the sdl-config check, rather than just leaving it disabled anyway |
| 08:31.00 | CIA-2 | BZFlag: 03timriker * 10bzflag/win32/VC6/config.h: consistancy |
| 08:31.03 | DTRemenak | learner, told you you broke it :) |
| 08:31.18 | learner | DTRemenak, i try :) |
| 08:31.21 | DTRemenak | :) |
| 08:32.26 | TimRiker | learner: nope. not as clean, but ah well, it's already not clean. |
| 08:32.50 | learner | TimRiker: hmm? |
| 08:34.07 | CIA-2 | BZFlag: 03timriker * 10bzflag/configure.in: libcurl on by default |
| 08:34.14 | learner | the probably better way would be to wrap up vsnprintf into a function that accounts for the differences (TextUtils for example) so only one isolated accounting of the different funcs |
| 08:34.22 | TimRiker | learner: re xcode location. |
| 08:34.51 | learner | ahh, answering question.. sorry -- short term memory shot |
| 08:35.23 | TimRiker | could just #define vsnprintf(a,b,c,d) vsprintf((a),(c),(d)) no? |
| 08:37.03 | TimRiker | other packages have a: #define vsnprintf(buf, size, fmt, list) vsprintf (buf, fmt, list) |
| 08:37.15 | learner | yep |
| 08:37.16 | TimRiker | I'd recommend the () around the params though. |
| 08:37.45 | learner | the ()'s would give me cause for concern.. if there's type funkage in there on an old system |
| 08:38.00 | learner | would want to test it on the persnickity platforms (irix/solaris) |
| 08:38.56 | TimRiker | do we have anything that does not have either at present? |
| 08:39.17 | TimRiker | (ie: vsnprintf or _vsnprintf) |
| 08:39.28 | learner | iirc, vsprintf goes _way back to pre ansi |
| 08:39.39 | DTRemenak | no, see MsgStrings.cxx |
| 08:39.49 | DTRemenak | it's used unprotected there and compiles on everything |
| 08:40.19 | learner | cept haven't gotten that far in the irix build yet :) |
| 08:40.27 | learner | but I doubt it will fail |
| 08:40.33 | TimRiker | so HAVE_VSNPRINTF is kinda silly at present. |
| 08:40.44 | DTRemenak | learner: yeah, but purple_cow says irix has everything :) |
| 08:41.03 | learner | TimRiker, vsprintf goes way back, vsnprintf does not |
| 08:41.21 | DTRemenak | learner, MsgStrings uses vsnprintf |
| 08:41.37 | DTRemenak | TimRiker, is HAVE_VSNPRINTF for _vsnprintf or vsnprintf |
| 08:41.48 | learner | latter |
| 08:41.56 | learner | prior would be HAVE__VSNPRINTF |
| 08:42.35 | DTRemenak | ok |
| 08:42.36 | learner | DTRemenak, it may be silly .. probably just don't have a system/compiler that old |
| 08:42.56 | purple_cow | DTRemenak: seriously. the list of standards (BSD, SYSV, POSIX, etc) it supports is staggeringly long |
| 08:42.57 | learner | afaik, we're assuming ansi in other places already..so could be construed as silly |
| 08:43.03 | DTRemenak | yup |
| 08:43.49 | TimRiker | HAVE__VSNPRINTF still makes sense. I suppose we could only look at HAVE__VSNPRINTF if !HAVE_VSNPRINTF |
| 08:44.16 | learner | probably make sense |
| 08:44.32 | DTRemenak | yeah, vsnprintf should probably be preferred over _vsnprintf |
| 08:44.56 | DTRemenak | being the more standards-compliant version |
| 08:45.42 | learner | this new XCode project should make the mac builders much more happy.. fixes lots of problems |
| 08:45.58 | DTRemenak | for that matter, the same could be said for _stricmp and strncmp. mingw provides both, strncmp should be preferred. |
| 08:46.20 | learner | and it will always be in sync so long as the build steps stay the same on the unix side |
| 08:46.36 | DTRemenak | although it's probably academic since they're just #defines anyway |
| 08:46.45 | learner | i.e. ./autogen.sh, ./configure, and make |
| 08:46.59 | DTRemenak | learner, nifty |
| 08:47.26 | learner | will give them the binaries if they use make, will give a double-clickable mac app if they use Xcode |
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| 08:47.52 | CIA-2 | BZFlag: 03timriker * 10bzflag/include/common.h: take that you vs*printf() you |
| 08:47.54 | learner | :P |
| 08:48.22 | bz1848 | hello |
| 08:48.27 | DTRemenak | with_SDL=yes if the sdl-config test succeeds :) |
| 08:48.51 | DTRemenak | you set it to =no if it failed...but it was already =no, so it was =no regardless of success or failure |
| 08:49.05 | learner | muahaha.. |
| 08:49.11 | learner | you think that was by accident |
| 08:49.15 | DTRemenak | hahah |
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| 08:49.26 | learner | 1848 was a good year |
| 08:49.30 | DTRemenak | 1848, huh? polk was elected, I think |
| 08:49.38 | learner | polk audio? |
| 08:49.38 | DTRemenak | darnit learner, you steal my thoughts! |
| 08:49.45 | learner | =) |
| 08:50.02 | learner | we scared him off |
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| 08:50.57 | DTRemenak | ok, so tomorrow we "really" release? :) |
| 08:51.11 | learner | it's just a long release.. :) |
| 08:51.17 | DTRemenak | hehe |
| 08:51.29 | *** topic/#bzflag by learner -> http://BZFlag.org/ || http://my.BZFlag.org/bb/ || http://my.BZFlag.org/ || http://cia.navi.cx/stats/project/BZFlag || 1.11.x builds http://my.bzflag.org/builds/1.11/ || Shellshock is revived http://shellshock.bzflag.bz || Release date is (STILL?) TODAY (day 3) || NO IT'S NOT OUT YET |
| 08:52.30 | learner | ahh, TimRiker, now I see what you mean.. that consistency mismatch was a typo of sorts |
| 08:53.11 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 08:53.20 | *** topic/#bzflag by purple_cow -> http://BZFlag.org/ || http://my.BZFlag.org/bb/ || http://my.BZFlag.org/ || http://cia.navi.cx/stats/project/BZFlag || 1.11.x builds http://my.bzflag.org/builds/1.11/ || Shellshock is revived http://shellshock.bzflag.bz || Release date is tomorrow || NO IT'S NOT OUT YET |
| 08:53.22 | purple_cow | that's safer ;) |
| 08:53.29 | learner | bah |
| 08:53.47 | learner | heh |
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| 08:54.21 | learner | bad riker bot, no donut |
| 08:54.55 | learner | purple_cow, so what _was_ cia's problem? |
| 08:55.24 | purple_cow | scanline? |
| 08:55.32 | learner | yeah |
| 08:55.36 | learner | you get the dish from him? |
| 08:55.42 | learner | ahh |
| 08:55.56 | learner | not very nice of the filesystem to do that |
| 08:56.13 | purple_cow | filesystem? |
| 08:56.24 | learner | dust bunnies |
| 08:56.51 | learner | hopped on the rulesets |
| 08:58.34 | TimRiker | DTRemenak: heard back from chris, he says he'll take te binaries off his site. |
| 09:03.17 | TimRiker | BZFlag-Info.plist is gone now, yes? |
| 09:05.18 | CIA-2 | BZFlag: 03timriker * 10bzflag/src/platform/MacOSX/Makefile.am: dead mac files? |
| 09:09.08 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o TimRiker] by ChanServ |
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| 09:13.15 | CIA-2 | BZFlag: 03brlcad * 10bzflag/configure.in: look for SDL/SDL.h header (needed for -framework SDL) |
| 09:15.46 | CIA-2 | BZFlag: 03brlcad * 10bzflag/win32/ (VC6/config.h VC71/config.h): let the windows folks (more specifically, the _MSC_DEV folks) know that they have SDL/SDL.h |
| 09:18.01 | CIA-2 | BZFlag: 03brlcad * 10bzflag/include/bzfSDL.h: base the select of SDL/SDL.h versus SDL.h based off of a configure check -- not just for _MSC_VER folks any more (mac -framwork needs it). |
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| 09:41.34 | cods | hi |
| 09:41.52 | cods | little typo in bzw.5s.. Here is a patch: http://tuxee.net/man-bzw.patch |
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| 10:15.02 | Chestal | tag |
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| 10:18.05 | trepan | segv |
| 10:18.20 | Chestal | oh? |
| 10:18.57 | trepan | bzflag.cxx/1351 |
| 10:19.16 | trepan | down into StateDatabase::evaluate() |
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| 10:22.05 | Chestal | hmm, the new vformat is broken |
| 10:22.28 | trepan | ya, cfg vars saved as "" are crashing it |
| 10:23.13 | trepan | oh well, back to the book... :) |
| 10:23.17 | Chestal | at least it is broken when you don't have vsn... but then it shouldn't compiel either |
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| 10:32.58 | Chestal | trepan: I'm fixing it (I think) |
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| 11:17.56 | CIA-2 | BZFlag: 03chestal * 10bzflag/src/common/TextUtils.cxx: really don't use vsnprintf if we don't have it; fix +1 error for buffer size; only use dynamic buffer when necessary |
| 11:46.44 | mmu_man | thx for ppl not having vsnprintf :) |
| 11:47.16 | mmu_man | oh yeah I do :) |
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| 13:10.07 | LackingSleep-Boy | do you think it would be possible to import .bzw or .map files into Blender? |
| 13:12.56 | amathis | Hallo! |
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| 13:17.06 | elspuddy | hi |
| 13:17.17 | elspuddy | cna bzflag be started as a command line sevrer ? |
| 13:24.47 | cods | what you mean exactly ? |
| 13:27.48 | elspuddy | i think i typed that wrong, i'v been reading a few websites and the forums, lookins like i'm the server file missing :( |
| 13:28.21 | elspuddy | know where i can get it from ? |
| 13:43.28 | cods | you're looking for 'bzfs' probably |
| 13:43.56 | elspuddy | yep, found that, just missing the .conf file |
| 13:44.31 | cods | about the configuration itself, there is lot of doc. about that on the net. |
| 13:45.09 | elspuddy | throght there was suposed to be a sample config file that came with bzfs ? |
| 13:45.15 | cods | See http://www.bzflag.org/wiki/CreatingAServer |
| 13:45.24 | cods | dunno about configuration file.. I don't use them. |
| 13:45.44 | cods | but, man bzfs should also give you more information. |
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| 14:11.55 | Pimpinella | cods, what do you use to configure your server instead of a config file? |
| 14:15.35 | cods | I mean I don't use -conf bzfs option. But maybe than "configuration file" was a more general term here. |
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| 14:16.01 | Nidhoggr | sample config file is in the misc dir in the source tree |
| 14:16.51 | cods | and mainly because we have a python script -runserver- that take a single file containing everything including the map, and build the help files, command line, map,.. |
| 14:17.46 | Pimpinella | yeah, i have something like that in awk |
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| 14:19.55 | Nidhoggr | heh... I remember when MrApathyCream created the config file option after I suggested it because people could see my server password with a "ps" command. |
| 14:20.13 | Pimpinella | the syntax of the configuration section for each server is similar to those of the bzfs config file, except that you can place shell commands in it |
| 14:20.34 | cods | Nidhoggr: oh, good point. |
| 14:21.10 | Nidhoggr | and I also complained that bzflag devs needed to treat their server more like a unix daemon. |
| 14:21.30 | Nidhoggr | it's gotten a lot better since then. |
| 14:22.27 | Pimpinella | yeah, it should go to backgroud and give out it's pid |
| 14:22.44 | Pimpinella | and reload config on -HUP |
| 14:24.30 | Pimpinella | if i want to check an attribut for each player, whats the way to go in 1.11 ? |
| 14:25.37 | Pimpinella | there's nothing like maxCurrentPlayers anymore |
| 14:26.43 | Chestal | there's curMaxPlayers |
| 14:26.55 | Chestal | look at bzfs.cxx boradcastMesasge for example |
| 14:26.59 | Chestal | broadcast |
| 14:27.05 | Pimpinella | oh |
| 14:29.26 | Nidhoggr | driving to work. bbiab. |
| 14:29.33 | Pimpinella | cu |
| 14:30.53 | Pimpinella | yeah, that means i can recycle most of the code :) |
| 14:32.35 | Pimpinella | if somebody needs it, i have a fresh doxygen generated documentation of bz here http://balin.pimpi.org/doxygen/ |
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| 14:47.51 | elspuddy | weird |
| 14:48.01 | elspuddy | can;t join me lan server |
| 14:48.02 | elspuddy | List server send failed: Resource temporarily unavailable |
| 14:48.06 | elspuddy | keep geting that |
| 14:50.13 | blast007 | is -public specified? |
| 14:50.39 | elspuddy | yep |
| 14:51.21 | blast007 | if it's just for a LAN, you don't need that |
| 14:51.43 | elspuddy | well it's for a lan/internet game for me and a few firends |
| 14:51.48 | elspuddy | epp |
| 14:51.52 | elspuddy | too kmeany flags |
| 14:52.00 | elspuddy | meany even |
| 14:52.31 | blast007 | hmm, is -publiclist specified? |
| 14:52.47 | elspuddy | nope |
| 14:52.50 | blast007 | k, good |
| 14:54.40 | elspuddy | rats, it's on ctf and not freeforall |
| 14:54.53 | blast007 | see if you can access http://db.bzflag.org/db/?action=LIST on the computer you are running the server on |
| 14:55.12 | blast007 | if you can, the bzfs process may be blocked by a firewall or something |
| 14:56.29 | elspuddy | it's o/k i just # one the -public line on the conf file |
| 14:58.01 | Pimpinella | elspuddy: if it's only for you and a few frinds, you probably want it private and therefor not listed? |
| 14:58.41 | elspuddy | Pimpinella : i dont mine of other people join, it's only 3 of us playing on my 256k up stream connection |
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| 15:04.16 | elspuddy | right, neet to sort out my firewall now :) |
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| 15:13.55 | elspuddy | is 5154 tcp or udp ? |
| 15:14.10 | elspuddy | this is for the bz server |
| 15:14.32 | Chestal | both |
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| 15:19.46 | RedBaron2 | hello mum |
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| 15:23.26 | *** topic/#bzflag by Grumbler -> http://BZFlag.org/ || http://my.BZFlag.org/bb/ || http://my.BZFlag.org/ || http://cia.navi.cx/stats/project/BZFlag || 1.11.x builds http://my.bzflag.org/builds/1.11/ || Shellshock is revived http://shellshock.bzflag.bz || Release date is tomorrow(14th) || NO IT'S NOT OUT YET |
| 15:24.43 | Chestal | Grumbler: is that topic change based on anything? :-) |
| 15:24.58 | Nidhoggr | heh. |
| 15:25.02 | Chestal | ah, you just added the date |
| 15:25.12 | TheRedBaron | I was going to ask the same thing |
| 15:25.14 | Chestal | the old one was more flexible |
| 15:25.18 | TheRedBaron | exactly |
| 15:25.22 | Grumbler | heh |
| 15:25.34 | TheRedBaron | it gave the convience of procrastination :P |
| 15:25.44 | Grumbler | not really since the date of the change was posted, but for those that dont look at that information, this i s more accurate |
| 15:26.18 | Grumbler | just trying to keep the whip to you boys |
| 15:26.30 | Grumbler | ...and girls |
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| 15:26.48 | RedBaron2 | heheh |
| 15:27.10 | Grumbler | maybe i should say people, and be politically correct |
| 15:32.25 | brlcad | 14th? |
| 15:32.33 | brlcad | we skipping a day? |
| 15:33.00 | brlcad | tomorrow was written last night.. implying 13th :) |
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| 15:33.01 | TheRedBaron | today? |
| 15:33.08 | TheRedBaron | oh. |
| 15:33.15 | Chestal | brlcad: do you know when the server fetches the master ban list? |
| 15:34.09 | brlcad | Chestal: bzfs.cxx:4369 |
| 15:34.51 | Chestal | so, only on start? |
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| 15:38.12 | brlcad | uhm |
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| 15:38.36 | cods | release date.. hmm.. for a new topic ? :) |
| 15:38.56 | brlcad | Chestal: hrm.. i "thought" that it had a refetch .. could be wrong |
| 15:39.45 | *** topic/#bzflag by DTRemenak -> http://BZFlag.org/ || http://my.BZFlag.org/bb/ || http://my.BZFlag.org/ || http://cia.navi.cx/stats/project/BZFlag || 1.11.x builds http://my.bzflag.org/builds/1.11/ || Shellshock is revived http://shellshock.bzflag.bz || Release date is a continuum of time in this general area || NO IT'S NOT OUT YET |
| 15:39.48 | Grumbler | brlcad, actually it was written this morning |
| 15:39.55 | DTRemenak | how's that? |
| 15:40.02 | orange | heh |
| 15:40.14 | TheRedBaron | well, it gets full marks for being politically correct |
| 15:40.26 | TheRedBaron | and refuting any personal responsibility. :) |
| 15:40.34 | Grumbler | Topic set by purple_cow at 03:53 on Thursday 13 January 2005 |
| 15:41.19 | elspuddy | can some one see if thay cn connect to my bz server ?? or should/can i use the ibot command ? |
| 15:42.55 | elspuddy | ~bzfquery 213.208.100.221@5154 |
| 15:43.08 | elspuddy | ~bzfquery 213.208.100.221 |
| 15:43.13 | Grumbler | ~literal gmm |
| 15:43.14 | ibot | "gmm" is "<reply> see bzfquery bzflag.galkire.net:5555" |
| 15:43.33 | Grumbler | use colon, not @ |
| 15:43.38 | elspuddy | ~bzfquery 213.208.100.221:5154 |
| 15:43.52 | elspuddy | yep, sorry, was not looking at the keybaord then :) |
| 15:44.17 | Grumbler | really no reason to apologize to me.....i am just annoying lurker |
| 15:44.45 | DTRemenak | ~lurk |
| 15:44.46 | ibot | ACTION lurks suspiciously in the corner of the room. |
| 15:45.02 | elspuddy | ibot exceeded allowed forked count (shm 32769): Dict, BZFlag <-- is that good or bad ? |
| 15:45.05 | ibot | elspuddy: what are you talking about? |
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| 15:46.29 | brlcad | Grumbler: only in our timezone :) |
| 15:46.29 | bryjen | ~status |
| 15:46.30 | ibot | Since Fri Dec 24 21:16:19 2004, there have been 255 modifications, 1716 questions, 0 dunnos, 0 morons and 1362 commands. I have been awake for 19d 18h 30m 10s this session, and currently reference 107908 factoids. I'm using about 24636 kB of memory. With 1 active fork. Process time user/system 29990.31/2190.37 child 2960.37/248.68 |
| 15:46.50 | *** part/#bzflag Guest035 (~8b1440e8@rw08.de) |
| 15:47.18 | brlcad | actually i guess by then it was all the US except hawaii/alaska |
| 15:47.24 | Grumbler | brlcad did purple_cow move to hawaii |
| 15:47.31 | bryjen | no morons since christmas |
| 15:47.32 | brlcad | he wishes probably |
| 15:47.34 | elspuddy | rats wrong port |
| 15:47.42 | elspuddy | ~bzfquery 213.208.100.221:5156 |
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| 15:49.25 | Grumbler | oh boy this is gonna hurt |
| 15:49.25 | *** part/#bzflag glob (~d5e4000c@webchat.bzflag.bz) |
| 15:49.48 | Chestal | brlcad: I was wondering because of blocking curl. As long as it doesn't do it while theer are active players, it's fine IMHO |
| 15:51.15 | DTRemenak | Chestal, only on start unless a reload is requested, I think |
| 15:51.59 | DTRemenak | and reload shouldn't need to be used on lan games |
| 15:52.05 | elspuddy | ~bzfquery 213.208.100.221:5156 |
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| 15:58.36 | purple_cow | no hawaii for me |
| 15:58.47 | elspuddy | ~bzfquery 213.208.100.221:5156 |
| 16:04.58 | elspuddy | ~bzfquery 213.208.100.221:5156 |
| 16:05.22 | blast007 | elspuddy: your ports 5154 to 5156 show as 'filtered' in nmap |
| 16:07.29 | *** join/#bzflag Grumbler (~a06091d2@grumbler.bronze.supporter.pdpc) |
| 16:07.51 | blast007 | make sure the port for your server is open (both TCP and UDP), and forwarded to your machine |
| 16:08.03 | elspuddy | it is |
| 16:08.42 | blast007 | UDP shows open |
| 16:08.52 | elspuddy | i got src ip is any, dest is any port 5156 to 5156 in both inbound and outbound in my firewall |
| 16:09.10 | blast007 | hmm |
| 16:09.17 | elspuddy | 5154 to 5156 |
| 16:09.43 | elspuddy | new router, just can;t figure out the firewall |
| 16:10.14 | blast007 | hrm...gotta go to work :) |
| 16:10.43 | Grumbler | hmm, if it is anything like my old linksys you have to hit the apply button on the top menu in the port forwarding sections |
| 16:10.47 | *** part/#bzflag quantumdot (~Juan@desorden.ifca.unican.es) |
| 16:11.38 | Grumbler | ...actually the netgear does the same thing as well..........they cant put the ......grr.....grumble, grumble |
| 16:12.07 | elspuddy | dynamode adsl router |
| 16:12.21 | elspuddy | dose not say i need to save and reboot for the firewall changes |
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| 16:30.02 | elspuddy | ... |
| 16:31.58 | jpa- | ... |
| 16:32.10 | brlcad | ... |
| 16:32.14 | DTRemenak | .... |
| 16:32.36 | TheRedBaron | ??? :) |
| 16:32.48 | jpa- | corrupted :( |
| 16:33.13 | DTRemenak | !!! |
| 16:34.02 | jpa- | DTRemenak: fix your connection :) |
| 16:34.21 | DTRemenak | ... |
| 16:34.59 | jpa- | thanks |
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| 16:42.29 | sgk284 | hello |
| 16:42.47 | jpa- | hello |
| 16:44.26 | brlcad | hello |
| 16:44.49 | sgk284 | i dont know if i should be asking but... |
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| 16:45.00 | brlcad | ~slap sgk284 |
| 16:45.03 | ibot | ACTION slaps sgk284, keep your grubby fingers to yourself! |
| 16:45.04 | elspuddy | woohoo got it working |
| 16:45.09 | sgk284 | lol |
| 16:45.10 | elspuddy | ~bzfquery 213.208.100.221:5156 |
| 16:45.49 | jpa- | sgk284: ask already :) |
| 16:46.13 | sgk284 | heh i think brlcad already answered |
| 16:46.18 | sgk284 | ;) |
| 16:46.32 | sgk284 | well obvioduly it hasnt been released, but out of curiosity whats holding it up? |
| 16:46.46 | sgk284 | i thought it was mac stuff but didnt learner take care of that last night? |
| 16:46.47 | jpa- | ~slap sgk284 |
| 16:46.49 | ibot | ACTION slaps sgk284, keep your grubby fingers to yourself! |
| 16:46.53 | sgk284 | haha |
| 16:47.22 | sgk284 | gotta love that spelling of mine... its the keyboard i swear |
| 16:48.19 | jpa- | they just haven't yet implemented all the possible features |
| 16:49.35 | jpa- | it is important that 2.0 will have animal-object, spiral-object, wind that affects flying and jumping and.. |
| 16:49.51 | sgk284 | heh |
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| 16:50.37 | jpa- | and tanks must have little people inside them that fall out when exploding |
| 16:50.48 | jpa- | and then one can smash them by driving over |
| 16:50.57 | TheRedBaron | and radar? |
| 16:51.05 | TheRedBaron | what have you done to the radar? |
| 16:51.29 | jpa- | is there something wrong with the radar? :) |
| 16:52.12 | sgk284 | the radar is fine.... some new enhancements though:) |
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| 16:52.24 | sgk284 | i.e. fast radar |
| 16:52.44 | jpa- | is it supposed to be fast to render or fast to look at? |
| 16:52.49 | sgk284 | and if you use 4 to zoom in the radar if you zoom in close enough you actually see your physical tank rather then a square |
| 16:53.08 | sgk284 | jpa-, i think fast to render, and you can modify the png that it uses |
| 16:53.23 | TheRedBaron | what if you use "4" for a different function? |
| 16:53.25 | jpa- | but, it is terribly slow on olympics server :) |
| 16:53.35 | TheRedBaron | as in your 1.10 config file |
| 16:53.37 | bryjen | rendering had to be fixed to maintain speed on maps with the new object types |
| 16:53.57 | sgk284 | btw, trepan did the radar stuff and he seemed proud that the treads on the radar were in sync with the real treads so i gues si'l mention it |
| 16:54.19 | sgk284 | :) |
| 16:54.21 | jpa- | haha :D |
| 16:54.21 | Nidhoggr | I was on the olympics server last night and the weird cloudwall-ish effect totally ate my video card for lunch. |
| 16:54.26 | TheRedBaron | can you take that off your radar? |
| 16:54.33 | TheRedBaron | *the treads that is |
| 16:55.15 | TheRedBaron | oh nvm, i figured it out |
| 16:55.21 | TheRedBaron | ~slaps himself |
| 16:55.25 | bryjen | the tank model and treads don't show on the radar unless you zoom in rediculously close. at normal levels, you still just see a box |
| 16:55.48 | TheRedBaron | i was thinking of the tread marks left in the ground showing up on the radar |
| 16:56.04 | jpa- | i hate those constantly-to-the-window aligned tank boxes |
| 16:56.10 | jpa- | they are disturbing |
| 16:56.23 | jpa- | old way of aling-to-map was better imho |
| 16:56.27 | bryjen | those'd be big divots |
| 16:57.42 | jpa- | ~dict divot |
| 16:58.09 | jpa- | what would be a divot? |
| 16:58.22 | TheRedBaron | tread marks on the ground and radar |
| 16:58.52 | jpa- | oh, ok |
| 16:59.19 | TheRedBaron | which could clutter the radar, and/or reveal ST tanks |
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| 17:03.21 | TheRedBaron | i like the idea of the treads revealing the CL tanks though... |
| 17:04.01 | jpa- | i like the idea of driving just behind red baron with ST in a 1vs1 game :) |
| 17:04.31 | TheRedBaron | ack. |
| 17:05.24 | TheRedBaron | hmph |
| 17:05.37 | TheRedBaron | ~bzfrag jpa- |
| 17:05.40 | ibot | ACTION tries to kill jpa-, but finds the shield flag |
| 17:07.19 | jpa- | ~dict suspicious |
| 17:07.20 | TheRedBaron | ~bzfrag TheRedBaron |
| 17:07.23 | ibot | ACTION blindsides TheRedBaron with an invisible bullet |
| 17:07.28 | TheRedBaron | bah! |
| 17:07.37 | TheRedBaron | some one's got a stacked deck. |
| 17:07.52 | jpa- | ~bzfrag TheRedBaron |
| 17:07.54 | ibot | ACTION destroys TheRedBaron with a guided missle |
| 17:08.14 | jpa- | score: 2-0 for jpa, 0-2 for TheRedBaron |
| 17:08.38 | jpa- | i mean.. |
| 17:08.42 | jpa- | 1-0 for jpa |
| 17:08.56 | TheRedBaron | thank you. |
| 17:09.11 | TheRedBaron | some one is cheating.... ST and a Shield. |
| 17:09.37 | jpa- | i have gm also :) |
| 17:09.57 | TheRedBaron | what? no shame in it? |
| 17:10.58 | jpa- | shame? |
| 17:11.00 | jpa- | what is it? :) |
| 17:11.09 | jpa- | ~dict shame |
| 17:11.23 | jpa- | no, i don't have painful emotions |
| 17:11.59 | jpa- | :E |
| 17:12.53 | TheRedBaron | hmph |
| 17:14.06 | TheRedBaron | ok, I admit defeat. |
| 17:14.14 | TheRedBaron | But i'll get you next time. |
| 17:14.14 | jpa- | :E |
| 17:14.20 | jpa- | you won't |
| 17:14.27 | jpa- | i have my patched client |
| 17:15.02 | jpa- | if (me.gotShot) {me.flag=shield; me.dropflag();} |
| 17:15.31 | jpa- | ~bzfrag jpa |
| 17:15.33 | ibot | ACTION squishes jpa with a steamroller |
| 17:15.39 | jpa- | but.. |
| 17:15.39 | TheRedBaron | hah! |
| 17:15.42 | jpa- | ~bzfrag jpa- |
| 17:15.44 | ibot | ACTION kills jpa- with a shot from his BZTank |
| 17:15.51 | jpa- | hmph |
| 17:15.57 | TheRedBaron | ~frag jpa- |
| 17:15.59 | ibot | ACTION readies the nuke launcher and fires some rounds at jpa- |
| 17:16.09 | JeffM2501 | perhaps playing with the bot in #botpark or a PM would be best |
| 17:16.17 | TheRedBaron | ok. |
| 17:16.26 | jpa- | ibot: you lost the track of the cards, didn't you? :) |
| 17:18.05 | bryjen | shield doesn't stop the steamroller |
| 17:18.08 | jpa- | how mean :( |
| 17:20.00 | TheRedBaron | ok, well i've g2g |
| 17:20.13 | orchid | bye rb |
| 17:20.14 | TheRedBaron | lunch time, and i'm hungry |
| 17:20.26 | jpa- | no, you can not say "i've g2g" |
| 17:20.48 | jpa- | ..i think :) |
| 17:21.56 | TheRedBaron | well, i just did :) |
| 17:22.08 | TheRedBaron | be it grammatically incorrect or not. :P |
| 17:23.02 | jpa- | you eat fast :) |
| 17:23.21 | TheRedBaron | i haven't left yet :p |
| 17:23.29 | TheRedBaron | you distracted me |
| 17:24.03 | jpa- | cool :) |
| 17:24.20 | jpa- | i like distracting people |
| 17:24.32 | TheRedBaron | i can see... |
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| 17:24.36 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o TimRiker] by ChanServ |
| 17:25.10 | TheRedBaron | but i'm off now... for sure :) |
| 17:25.17 | TheRedBaron | ciao :) |
| 17:25.18 | jpa- | yeah right :) |
| 17:25.35 | TheRedBaron | bah, watch me :) |
| 17:26.09 | jpa- | haha, he is addicted |
| 17:26.28 | jpa- | can't even go to eat without closing irc first :) |
| 17:34.57 | mmu_man | http://clapcrest.free.fr/revol/beos/shot_bzflag_beos_jan2005_001.png |
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| 17:37.09 | RedBaron2 | lol |
| 17:37.14 | RedBaron2 | i'm out too folks |
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| 18:08.03 | cods | hmmm, interesting.. I created a Zone inside a Box, and set the Zone as accepting Geno flag, then added one geno flag (for testing purpose). And of course, bzfs can't position the flag.. and was eating all the CPU. Forced to kill -9. |
| 18:08.31 | jpa- | :D |
| 18:08.57 | jpa- | well, it is quite obvious why |
| 18:09.10 | cods | it's the aim of the test. |
| 18:09.13 | cods | but |
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| 18:09.28 | jpa- | but, there should be a if (flag.tries > 100000) break; |
| 18:09.43 | cods | it could be more interesting if bzfs stop trying to put the flag and either remove it, and put it in another place even if that violate the zone object rules. |
| 18:09.51 | jpa- | maybe i should fix it |
| 18:10.15 | jpa- | of course some output that tells what happened |
| 18:12.16 | cods | hmm |
| 18:13.50 | cods | even that: zone; position 0 0 5; size 10 10 5; flag G; end; box; position 0 0 0; size 10 10 5; end (with ; is '\n') don't work. |
| 18:14.28 | jpa- | hmm? |
| 18:14.56 | cods | removing the box work tough. |
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| 18:15.03 | cods | though even |
| 18:15.11 | jpa- | i have had that work |
| 18:16.06 | cods | I guess the above example also "crash" on your side, no ? |
| 18:16.14 | jpa- | testing |
| 18:19.39 | cods | in fact, according to some other test, if boxes overlap by considering only ground position (not the altitude), result is bad.. |
| 18:19.41 | jpa- | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:19.43 | jpa- | yup |
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| 18:20.50 | jpa- | hmm |
| 18:20.55 | jpa- | why does that crash.. |
| 18:21.07 | cods | and.. even more interesting, swapping order of box and zone.. work. |
| 18:21.56 | cods | more or less in fact |
| 18:22.53 | jpa- | true, my one working map with a box-shaped mesh and zone does not work if i change the order |
| 18:24.46 | cods | I guess it's "} while (!DropGeometry::dropFlag(flagPos, minZ, maxZ));" that should be updated.. |
| 18:24.51 | cods | (in bzfs.cxx) |
| 18:25.12 | cods | I don't know what could be the best way to handle that |
| 18:26.03 | jpa- | even if i put rotation 45 for the box, it still won't work |
| 18:27.28 | cods | I probably prefer the server to exit completly in such a case |
| 18:27.49 | jpa- | it crashes with arc too |
| 18:28.01 | jpa- | even if arc is not as big as the zone |
| 18:29.51 | *** join/#bzflag tapo (~tapo@p5092932C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 18:29.53 | jpa- | it uses only the bounding box |
| 18:29.54 | cods | patched my bzfs to test 1000 before, exiting.. |
| 18:29.58 | cods | +times |
| 18:32.33 | cods | I don't know enough how work bzfs to correct that properly. I guess it's not easy. |
| 18:32.45 | jpa- | oh |
| 18:32.48 | jpa- | hey! |
| 18:32.57 | jpa- | haven't we forgotten -fb? |
| 18:33.58 | cods | oops, indeed :p However, I think it's a problem that bzfs crash this way. |
| 18:34.09 | jpa- | well, yes :) |
| 18:34.26 | jpa- | flag-try-limit would be good |
| 18:34.49 | jpa- | i think 100000 and exit would be good |
| 18:35.18 | cods | 1000 largely enough IMHO |
| 18:35.20 | jpa- | it should not take forever to do that, but it should not happen unless there is a problem |
| 18:35.21 | cods | +is |
| 18:35.42 | jpa- | maybe yes, unless someone is doing something dumb |
| 18:35.45 | cods | it could be interesting to output how much time the loop run each time to place a flag |
| 18:36.01 | jpa- | like using box to restrict flag area without -fb |
| 18:36.48 | cods | anyway, I knew I was doing something bad.. I completly forgot this -fb argument. |
| 18:37.12 | jpa- | :) |
| 18:37.37 | jpa- | i decided to connect when it was placing flags with arc smaller than zone |
| 18:37.48 | jpa- | and noticed that there were no flags on the arc :) |
| 18:38.06 | jpa- | but, then, what happens if they are in different order? |
| 18:38.30 | jpa- | umm |
| 18:38.32 | jpa- | does not work |
| 18:38.41 | jpa- | it did a moment ago! |
| 18:40.11 | cods | ok bzfs patch work.. Now, "Unable to place flag. Exiting." is printed, and I just call exit().. bad bad bad.. |
| 18:40.31 | jpa- | but.. |
| 18:40.39 | jpa- | tell what fag |
| 18:40.40 | jpa- | *flag |
| 18:42.04 | jpa- | like "Unable to place Genocide flag after 1000 tries. Exiting |
| 18:42.40 | jpa- | but i can imagine bzfs dropping flags on buildings again and again :) |
| 18:42.48 | jpa- | without ever having success :) |
| 18:45.56 | cods | ok ok, i'm lost.. server don't crash anymore |
| 18:46.09 | jpa- | you forgot to remove -fb? :) |
| 18:46.17 | cods | not added yet |
| 18:46.21 | jpa- | i can't get it not to crash without -fb |
| 18:46.42 | jpa- | even though it worked with reverse order just a moment ago |
| 18:46.56 | cods | ah, reverted change to map. trying again. |
| 18:48.22 | cods | Unable to place flag Genocide (+G) after 1000 tries. Exiting. |
| 18:48.44 | cods | but.. removing the exit() show that flag is placed anyway. |
| 18:48.52 | cods | probably better that just stopping the server. |
| 18:49.19 | jpa- | but |
| 18:49.28 | jpa- | i would say 1000 is not enough |
| 18:49.36 | jpa- | how long does it take? |
| 18:50.07 | cods | ~40ms for whole process to start and stop after 1000 tries. |
| 18:50.35 | cods | trying higher value |
| 18:50.40 | cods | 10000 |
| 18:50.42 | cods | testing again |
| 18:50.49 | jpa- | 100000 :) |
| 18:51.06 | jpa- | so people will not complain :) |
| 18:51.09 | cods | err, it's 100000 actually, not 10000 |
| 18:51.20 | cods | real 0m0.119s |
| 18:51.43 | cods | with: |
| 18:51.44 | cods | Unable to place flag Genocide (+G) after 100000 tries. Exiting. |
| 18:52.25 | cods | it's really a quick hack to fix the problem.. |
| 18:52.32 | cods | I'm sure there is better way to handle that. |
| 18:52.36 | jpa- | it does not fix much |
| 18:52.47 | jpa- | but it is a fallback to stop stupid hanging |
| 18:53.08 | cods | it fix the fact that bzfs eat 100% of the cpu.. and since I don't own the server where run bzfs, I prefer not to run something that get all the cpu ressource. |
| 18:53.29 | cods | sure.. in both case, bzfs don't work. |
| 18:53.41 | cods | but, I prefer it to just stop if I've choice :) |
| 18:53.59 | jpa- | and to tell something quite-useful :) |
| 18:54.13 | jpa- | instead of hanging with no even debug output |
| 18:54.18 | Grumbler | Player hans [0] shot flag mismatch TH ST |
| 18:54.30 | cods | it's debug output above ! |
| 18:54.32 | cods | (DEBUG0) |
| 18:54.42 | jpa- | yes |
| 18:55.01 | jpa- | but i mean the action before your patch |
| 18:55.15 | Pimpinella | whats the default key to take a screenie= |
| 18:55.16 | Pimpinella | ? |
| 18:55.22 | Tupone | F5 |
| 18:55.23 | jpa- | Pimpinella: f5 |
| 18:55.28 | Pimpinella | ty+ |
| 18:55.31 | jpa- | Tupone: haha, loser :) |
| 18:55.40 | jpa- | Tupone: you were atleast 100ms slower :) |
| 18:55.54 | Tupone | I'm first here :) |
| 18:56.10 | jpa- | laggie :S |
| 18:56.12 | Tupone | we should ask others :/ |
| 18:56.15 | orange | tupone wins |
| 18:56.16 | jpa- | maybe |
| 18:56.21 | tapo | <jpa-> Pimpinella: f5 |
| 18:56.21 | tapo | <Tupone> F5 |
| 18:56.22 | CIA-2 | BZFlag: 03chestal * 10bzflag/BUGS: SDL 8 bit issue has been fixed (with current CVS SDL) |
| 18:56.28 | orange | 13:55:24 <Tupone> F5 |
| 18:56.28 | orange | 13:55:24 <jpa-> Pimpinella: f5 |
| 18:56.33 | Tupone | :) |
| 18:56.37 | jpa- | tight competition :) |
| 18:56.46 | orange | I think we call that one too close to call |
| 18:57.00 | Chestal | is everyone happy with current font filtering? |
| 18:57.05 | Chestal | could remove entry from BUGS then |
| 18:57.24 | jpa- | orange: or declare that i won :) |
| 18:58.10 | Grumbler | chestal fonts are ok for me in windows |
| 18:58.11 | Tupone | I'm not happy. I just tolerate |
| 18:58.13 | jpa- | trepan: wake up! |
| 18:58.31 | jpa- | trepan: i want to reverse-engineer your lousy rocks |
| 18:58.47 | jpa- | but some evil admin has closed the server :S |
| 18:59.08 | Chestal | I also miss the funny trepan test servers |
| 19:00.36 | Grumbler | is there any documentation on the new map features....i went to the docs directory and there is nothing there....also, is there any documentation on some fo t he new server commands....ie rain |
| 19:01.02 | jpa- | Grumbler: only one i know is bzfs.6 manpage |
| 19:01.11 | cods | and bzw.5 |
| 19:01.11 | jpa- | or bzw now actually, i think |
| 19:01.32 | tapo | time to write a book |
| 19:01.43 | jpa- | no books |
| 19:01.48 | menotume | ~seen TimRiker |
| 19:01.51 | ibot | timriker is currently on # (1h 37m 15s) #debian-bots (1h 37m 15s) #botpark (1h 37m 15s) #elinux (1h 37m 15s) #ol (1h 37m 15s) #bzflag (1h 37m 15s). Has said a total of 3 messages. Is idling for 1h 16m 39s |
| 19:01.51 | tapo | I once started writing a tutorial :) |
| 19:01.53 | Chestal | cods: didn't you have a small change for the bzw manpage? |
| 19:01.53 | jpa- | lets keep map-making elite-stuff |
| 19:02.02 | Grumbler | ok, i will look there again, thanks |
| 19:02.24 | cods | Chestal: http://tuxee.net/man-bzw.patch |
| 19:02.24 | menotume | ~seen Nidhoggr |
| 19:02.25 | ibot | nidhoggr is currently on #bzflag. Has said a total of 262 messages. Is idling for 2h 8m 4s |
| 19:02.28 | cods | just a small typo |
| 19:02.35 | Grumbler | having to dig through code to find things is pita |
| 19:03.04 | cods | Grumbler: http://tuxee.net/bzflag-syntax.txt, but an updated version is in bzw.5 |
| 19:03.10 | jpa- | Grumbler: no, you don't have to do that :) |
| 19:03.11 | Chestal | cods: hmm, "float", elsewhere I see either "<float>", or maybe "angle" |
| 19:03.19 | jpa- | Grumbler: reverse-engineer physics map |
| 19:03.27 | jpa- | Grumbler: while physics is down |
| 19:03.35 | cods | Chestal: doh.. you're right. |
| 19:03.37 | jpa- | i can put the map online if you want |
| 19:04.08 | Grumbler | nice fred, thnx |
| 19:04.15 | cods | Chestal: should be "angle" yes |
| 19:04.18 | Chestal | cods: ok |
| 19:04.42 | cods | this time I made a diff. I was happy to think about that. But the patch is wrong.. bah :) |
| 19:04.47 | jpa- | Grumbler: also, http://warri1.dyndns.org/~petteri/river.bzw is my "river" map, that some features are used (and it has comments!) |
| 19:05.19 | Nidhoggr | menotume: yes? |
| 19:05.30 | menotume | ahhh, hihi |
| 19:05.58 | cods | jpa-: i see lot of matref in some object, but I think you can use one 'matref' to set all faces, then change the different face to another texture. |
| 19:06.23 | CIA-2 | BZFlag: 03chestal * 10bzflag/man/bzw.5s: missing argument for "spin" (thanks, cods) |
| 19:06.40 | TimRiker | http://my.bzflag.org/bzfman.cgi?bzw.5s |
| 19:06.56 | Chestal | someone here want to earn some good karma? :-) |
| 19:07.02 | jpa- | cods: yes |
| 19:07.05 | TimRiker | note that the online version pulls from anonymous cvs, so it lags by 24 hours or so. |
| 19:07.17 | jpa- | cods: but, reverse-engineering does not tell that :) |
| 19:07.27 | jpa- | cods: trepan did that, so i did too :D |
| 19:07.34 | orange | "The tank's motion is now frozen! ... Press Shift+` to unfreeze" |
| 19:07.41 | cods | tips: reverse-engineer the source code, not the map :) |
| 19:07.53 | orange | I found that by accident by trying to figure out how to get to the other 'message' tabs |
| 19:07.53 | jpa- | why? :) |
| 19:08.00 | jpa- | i can't read c++ |
| 19:08.05 | Chestal | orange: what key was that again? |
| 19:08.11 | orange | well... it's not shift+` |
| 19:08.13 | orange | it's alt+` for me |
| 19:08.21 | orange | and the message is wrong, which is why I mentioned it here |
| 19:08.52 | orange | I'm not sure what the function is for, it's interesting, but if found by accident, getting out of it is tough with the wrong key listed :-) |
| 19:09.36 | Chestal | hmm, cannot activate it, I know it's inside some #ifdef, maybe only on debug builds? |
| 19:09.46 | Tupone | debug build |
| 19:09.50 | Chestal | what does freezing mean? tank stays still, no matter where mouse pointer is? |
| 19:09.54 | orange | yes, I have debug |
| 19:10.00 | orange | freezing means wherever controls are, they stay |
| 19:10.01 | Tupone | you can move pointer |
| 19:10.09 | orange | so if you're spinning, it still keeps spinning |
| 19:10.10 | Chestal | that's actually useful |
| 19:10.13 | Tupone | without affecting takn |
| 19:10.23 | Chestal | when running two clients in windows |
| 19:10.34 | Chestal | always so annoying when the one starts spinning wildly when I change windows |
| 19:11.18 | jpa- | for me too |
| 19:11.29 | jpa- | i have to set one for mouse and other for keyboard |
| 19:12.14 | jpa- | but earlier version without "confine mouse: off" was really painful |
| 19:12.16 | Chestal | what's the best place to set different compiler options? |
| 19:12.42 | jpa- | root makefile? |
| 19:12.49 | Chestal | jpa: I could force the mosue to escape the window by using wm pager keys :-) |
| 19:13.23 | jpa- | Chestal: i put bzflag -window & bzflag -window & bzflag -window and closed the first one |
| 19:14.02 | orange | DTRemenak: ping |
| 19:14.10 | Chestal | jpa-: tricky |
| 19:14.33 | Chestal | 1.10 has a config option for this, though, just have to know it |
| 19:15.04 | cods | I see that mesh can take position/size keywords.. Does that have really a sense ? (unless it's just here as "side effect" of the parser, and was not intended.) |
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| 19:19.07 | *** part/#bzflag t-s (~ts@pD9563389.dip.t-dialin.net) |
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| 19:24.17 | cods | answering myself.. In this case, size act as scale but don't scale texture, and position act as shift. |
| 19:24.47 | jpa- | like i thought :) |
| 19:27.43 | *** part/#bzflag mozul (~KBC18135@ct550.aero.org) |
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| 20:10.26 | DTRemenak | orange: pong |
| 20:10.56 | jpa- | ping |
| 20:11.21 | orange | DTRemenak: thanks... I was playing on borg and hoping for more wings flags to help test a problem I'm having |
| 20:11.31 | DTRemenak | ah. still want 'em? |
| 20:11.33 | orange | but I don't need them now... |
| 20:11.37 | DTRemenak | ok |
| 20:11.43 | orange | I can fairly reliably find one, and reproduce my error |
| 20:11.55 | orange | now I just don't know whether or not I should report it :-) |
| 20:11.58 | DTRemenak | error!?! |
| 20:12.51 | orange | well, I don't know what you'd call it.. after a few minutes of driving (flying) my tank starts lagging the controls by as much as 5 seconds |
| 20:13.05 | orange | move the mouse to the right, a little later the tank turns to the right |
| 20:13.10 | DTRemenak | hm, that's funny |
| 20:13.15 | orange | move the mouse back to the middle, the tank stops spinning after a few seconds |
| 20:13.28 | orange | I downloaded the latest SDL and linked against it, no change |
| 20:13.33 | orange | debug, no debug compilation, no change |
| 20:13.43 | orange | (linux, rh9, anon cvs checked out a couple hours ago) |
| 20:13.48 | DTRemenak | Fatal signal: Segmentation Fault ... great... |
| 20:13.57 | orange | (ati r128) |
| 20:14.10 | Chestal | DTR: oh, where, when, why? |
| 20:14.30 | DTRemenak | dunno, SDL trapped it. rebuilding with --enable-debug |
| 20:14.32 | orange | oddly, if I wait long enough, sometimes the controls return to normal |
| 20:14.59 | Chestal | DTR: I assume you are running current code? |
| 20:15.08 | Chestal | DTR: fixed a critical error inside vformat earlier today |
| 20:15.25 | DTRemenak | Chestal, current as of, um, hour or three ago |
| 20:15.35 | Chestal | DTRemenak: hmm, that should have the fix already |
| 20:17.01 | jpa- | random stuff sounds bad |
| 20:17.11 | DTRemenak | yeah, just cvs up'd and only got BUGS and bzw.5s |
| 20:17.46 | Chestal | when did it crash? |
| 20:17.56 | DTRemenak | on startup |
| 20:18.01 | Chestal | ah, that's good |
| 20:18.08 | DTRemenak | heh |
| 20:18.08 | Chestal | should be easy to track then |
| 20:19.14 | purple_cow | ow |
| 20:19.38 | Chestal | purple_cow: your code had a off-by-1 error, that is, unless I messed up now |
| 20:19.52 | Chestal | (v)snprintf return the number of chars without the trailing 0 |
| 20:20.13 | purple_cow | Chestal: ahh, bad me |
| 20:20.53 | Chestal | then someone else tried to #ifdef vsprintf vsnprintf, but somewhat wrong |
| 20:21.06 | Chestal | and whiel I was at it, I felt liek rewriting it :-) |
| 20:21.12 | JeffM2501 | you should have done it as a patch ;) |
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| 20:28.40 | Grumbler | heh, if you type _rainType bubbles it comes up snow with no warning that bubbles is illegal |
| 20:30.02 | jpa- | no, not snow |
| 20:30.11 | jpa- | white boxes |
| 20:30.22 | jpa- | while bubbles works somewhere |
| 20:30.27 | Grumbler | depends on the graphics....but yeah, something white |
| 20:30.27 | jpa- | ...strange |
| 20:30.36 | Grumbler | its suppose to be bubble |
| 20:30.42 | Grumbler | i thought it was bubbles |
| 20:30.51 | jpa- | oh, ok :) |
| 20:30.59 | Grumbler | silly me |
| 20:51.07 | Thumper_ | jpa you are supposed to be sleeping? |
| 20:51.24 | Thumper_ | you need trepan's rocks? I saved that... |
| 20:59.59 | orange | DTRemenak: I've determined it is your map's fault, since I can't make it happen anywhere else :-) |
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| 21:04.23 | wegstar | hi |
| 21:09.07 | *** join/#bzflag Grumbler (~a06091d2@grumbler.bronze.supporter.pdpc) |
| 21:13.48 | *** join/#bzflag sgk284 (~stevek@AC8D4644.ipt.aol.com) |
| 21:13.54 | sgk284 | hello |
| 21:14.05 | sgk284 | full house today |
| 21:16.53 | Grumbler | lurkers to the left, lurkers to the right......and nothing but the white spotted leopard ahead of me |
| 21:20.52 | elspuddy | ? |
| 21:26.09 | sgk284 | ~google |
| 21:26.11 | sgk284 | ~google lurkers to the left, lurkers to the right |
| 21:31.16 | *** part/#bzflag |zongo| (~zongo@lsn-boi-catv-c114-p172.vtx.ch) |
| 21:38.23 | Grumbler | hmmm, blender might require some time |
| 21:38.35 | wegstar | heh |
| 21:44.14 | Grumbler | !weather annapolis,md |
| 21:45.44 | Pimpinella | i found a strage bug in 1.10 |
| 21:47.01 | Pimpinella | a player appears in /playerlist with host webchat.bzflag.bz (and corrosponding ip), but is logged with another ip |
| 21:47.27 | *** join/#bzflag elspuddy (~elspuddy@213.208.100.221) |
| 21:47.27 | sgk284 | that means their hostname couldnt be found |
| 21:47.34 | elspuddy | lo |
| 21:47.53 | Pimpinella | yes, the real ip cant be resolved |
| 21:48.19 | *** part/#bzflag Thumper_ (~bernt@CPE000102d0fe24-CM0012256ecbde.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 21:48.23 | *** join/#bzflag Thumper_ (~bernt@CPE000102d0fe24-CM0012256ecbde.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 21:50.05 | wegstar | !94030 |
| 21:50.12 | wegstar | !weather 94030 |
| 21:50.23 | wegstar | !adfdaf |
| 21:51.21 | Grumbler | guu, hello |
| 21:51.37 | Grumbler | she's dead jim |
| 21:51.46 | wegstar | tell ping htat. :) |
| 21:52.16 | Grumbler | ibot hello |
| 21:52.17 | ibot | Howdy Bub |
| 21:52.31 | Grumbler | ~weather kann |
| 21:53.27 | elspuddy | ~weather 20100 |
| 21:53.31 | Grumbler | ~weather kank |
| 21:53.48 | Grumbler | ~weather knak |
| 21:55.04 | elspuddy | ~weather EGRR |
| 21:55.12 | wegstar | ah |
| 21:55.39 | Grumbler | ~weather kesn |
| 21:55.44 | elspuddy | ~weather 03240 |
| 21:55.57 | wegstar | ~weather KDFC |
| 21:56.21 | wegstar | ~weather KCBS |
| 21:56.41 | Grumbler | ibot be well |
| 21:56.47 | bryjen | !lart Grumbler |
| 21:56.54 | wegstar | oooh |
| 21:57.24 | wegstar | !weather 94030 |
| 21:57.26 | Grumbler | bryjen, you did it now |
| 21:57.30 | wegstar | hm... |
| 21:58.03 | Grumbler | guu has become and elitess |
| 21:58.17 | wegstar | ?? |
| 21:59.49 | CIA-2 | BZFlag: 03atupone * 10bzflag/include/BZDBCache.h: #include "common.h" should be the first thing included, directly or indirectly |
| 22:00.02 | JeffM2501 | she does NOT do zip codes for the 10,000th time |
| 22:00.09 | JeffM2501 | guu weather moorpark ca |
| 22:00.12 | guu | JeffM2501: The current temperature in Moorpark, California is 41°F (1:56 PM PST on January 13, 2005). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 51%. Dew Point: 41°F. UV: 3 out of 12 |
| 22:00.19 | JeffM2501 | oh wait she does zip |
| 22:00.24 | wegstar | heh |
| 22:00.26 | JeffM2501 | she dosn't do airport codes |
| 22:00.28 | JeffM2501 | sorry :) |
| 22:00.42 | wegstar | guu weather millbrae ca |
| 22:00.57 | wegstar | silence... |
| 22:01.01 | JeffM2501 | she probably just dosn't like you |
| 22:01.06 | JeffM2501 | guu rocks |
| 22:01.07 | guu | yes I do |
| 22:01.07 | wegstar | aww... :( |
| 22:01.12 | wegstar | ha |
| 22:01.17 | JeffM2501 | or she can't find a feed for it |
| 22:01.32 | wegstar | hmm... :) |
| 22:01.39 | bryjen | and why keep guessing at codes when ibot gives you a link to go lookup what you need? |
| 22:02.00 | JeffM2501 | yes ibot has a more infomrative weather system |
| 22:02.18 | wegstar | yeah... |
| 22:02.18 | JeffM2501 | I never put the good weather into guu |
| 22:02.18 | guu | I don't have a clue! |
| 22:02.20 | JeffM2501 | I know baby, it's ok |
| 22:03.22 | CIA-2 | BZFlag: 03atupone * 10bzflag/include/Bundle.h: common.h should be the first included file |
| 22:06.39 | CIA-2 | BZFlag: 03atupone * 10bzflag/ (include/ErrorHandler.h src/common/ErrorHandler.cxx): common.h should be the first included file |
| 22:06.49 | *** join/#bzflag PointBlank (PointBlank@dialup-4.240.105.249.Dial1.Phoenix1.Level3.net) |
| 22:07.16 | JeffM2501 | forgot about CTC! |
| 22:10.08 | Grumbler | guu rocks |
| 22:10.43 | CIA-2 | BZFlag: 03atupone * 10bzflag/include/PositionTracker.h: common.h should be the first included file |
| 22:10.47 | Grumbler | like i said, she will only respond to certain special users.....oh well. |
| 22:12.05 | JeffM2501 | wierd |
| 22:12.24 | JeffM2501 | you identified? |
| 22:12.44 | wegstar | I am.. |
| 22:12.53 | *** part/#bzflag tapo (~tapo@p5092932C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 22:12.54 | JeffM2501 | double odd |
| 22:13.17 | *** join/#bzflag triclops (~caleb@c211-31-49-112.rivrw7.nsw.optusnet.com.au) |
| 22:13.33 | sgk284 | guu hello |
| 22:13.47 | sgk284 | ibot hello |
| 22:13.48 | ibot | Howdy Bub |
| 22:13.57 | wegstar | hmm... |
| 22:13.59 | sgk284 | ~slap guu |
| 22:14.01 | ibot | ACTION slaps guu, keep your grubby fingers to yourself! |
| 22:14.01 | Grumbler | hmm, 1 year, might be time to donate again |
| 22:14.54 | JeffM2501 | guu battle |
| 22:14.55 | guu | lets get ready to RUMBLE!!!!! |
| 22:16.08 | sgk284 | heh your special |
| 22:16.13 | orchid | JeffM2501: guu still ignores ibot? |
| 22:16.30 | CIA-2 | BZFlag: 03atupone * 10bzflag/src/common/BZDBCache.cxx: Interface header is the first, on cxx files |
| 22:17.07 | JeffM2501 | totaly |
| 22:17.14 | JeffM2501 | well she better |
| 22:17.30 | wegstar | guu is in PHP and ibot is in Perl i don't think they like each other... :) |
| 22:17.30 | bryjen | ~lart guu |
| 22:17.31 | guu | Bugger all, I dunno. |
| 22:17.46 | bryjen | htm |
| 22:17.51 | JeffM2501 | well she won't start a war by puting ibot back in it |
| 22:17.57 | bryjen | ~lart guu again |
| 22:18.08 | sgk284 | hi guu |
| 22:18.16 | JeffM2501 | it would have to start or end with guu |
| 22:18.16 | guu | I have no idea. |
| 22:18.19 | JeffM2501 | see |
| 22:18.21 | Tupone | guu ibot is ignoring you? |
| 22:18.27 | bryjen | yeah. missed on the second one |
| 22:18.37 | sgk284 | JeffM2501, whatd you do to her? |
| 22:18.44 | wegstar | heh |
| 22:19.02 | JeffM2501 | probably because she's just here on a join, not as a default channel |
| 22:19.09 | JeffM2501 | bzflag isn't in her defaults list |
| 22:22.02 | bryjen | ~fling guu |
| 22:22.05 | ibot | ACTION flings poo at guu |
| 22:22.05 | guu | I have no idea, bryjen. |
| 22:22.41 | bryjen | responded to me, but not ibot |
| 22:23.30 | bryjen | well then |
| 22:23.55 | JeffM2501 | she'll be back |
| 22:24.05 | JeffM2501 | she had errors |
| 22:24.11 | JeffM2501 | probably need to upgrade her again |
| 22:24.16 | JeffM2501 | she's running some CVS version |
| 22:24.23 | *** join/#bzflag guu (guu@myth.gibbscam.com) |
| 22:24.54 | JeffM2501 | guu nick cortana |
| 22:25.03 | CIA-2 | BZFlag: 03atupone * 10bzflag/src/common/Bundle.cxx: avoid duplicate include |
| 22:25.04 | JeffM2501 | bahh |
| 22:25.32 | JeffM2501 | guu weather 93021 |
| 22:25.33 | guu | JeffM2501: The current temperature in Moorpark, California is 61°F (2:21 PM PST on January 13, 2005). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 53%. Dew Point: 44°F. UV: 3 out of 12 |
| 22:25.41 | wegstar | guu weather 94030 |
| 22:25.44 | guu | wegstar: The current temperature in Millbrae, California is 46°F (1:56 PM PST on January 13, 2005). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 45°F. Pressure: 30.25 in (1024 hPa). Visibility: 7.0 miles (11.3 kilometers). UV: 1 out of 12 |
| 22:25.48 | JeffM2501 | there ya go |
| 22:25.53 | wegstar | :) |
| 22:25.58 | JeffM2501 | guu ignore ibot |
| 22:25.58 | guu | JeffM2501: okay |
| 22:26.08 | JeffM2501 | guu flush |
| 22:26.09 | guu | JeffM2501: okay |
| 22:28.09 | CIA-2 | BZFlag: 03atupone * 10bzflag/include/StateDatabase.h: Help my cross-compiler include, the previous order gives compiler error |
| 22:28.48 | JeffM2501 | guu can you take me higher? |
| 22:28.49 | guu | To a place where blind men see. To a place of golden streets. |
| 22:30.49 | wegstar | San Francisco :) |
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| 22:45.13 | amathis | when is release? |
| 22:45.27 | amathis | heh |
| 22:45.33 | amathis | general question I guess. |
| 22:45.49 | My[DSMBR | lol |
| 22:45.55 | My[DSMBR | someone should make an FAQ |
| 22:45.58 | My[DSMBR | about the new release |
| 22:46.01 | Tupone | Release date is a continuum of time in this general area |
| 22:46.08 | Tupone | see topics |
| 22:46.25 | My[DSMBR | 1. Q: When is the new release coming? A: When it is... |
| 22:46.28 | amathis | umm wtf is up with CVS? |
| 22:46.56 | amathis | cvs update: cannot rewrite CVS/Entries.Backup: Permission denied |
| 22:47.00 | amathis | I get a bunch of those. |
| 22:47.05 | amathis | cvs update: cannot rewrite CVS/Entries.Backup: Permission denied |
| 22:47.06 | amathis | cvs [update aborted]: cannot open .new.BUGS: Permission denied |
| 22:49.46 | bryjen | have you fiddled with you file permissions? used a different user to update or build at some point? |
| 22:50.50 | amathis | no, I just installed a new OS.. |
| 22:50.54 | amathis | and I just checked out |
| 22:50.58 | amathis | and I just tried to update |
| 22:52.04 | bryjen | developer cvs is working. Tupone has been checking in and I've updated |
| 22:52.08 | amathis | perhaps I should re check out. |
| 22:52.23 | amathis | ah! |
| 22:52.32 | amathis | evidentelly when I checked out some perms where diff |
| 22:52.47 | amathis | my user has no perms with these directories. |
| 22:54.02 | Tupone | uid are different probably. Try to change it on passwd :) |
| 22:54.12 | amathis | Tupone: fixed now actually :D |
| 22:54.22 | amathis | works marvelously. |
| 22:54.35 | amathis | so what is the major TODO's before release? |
| 22:55.06 | Tupone | trying to build on all platform |
| 22:55.17 | amathis | lemme guess.. |
| 22:55.18 | amathis | windows? |
| 22:55.28 | amathis | is it puking there? |
| 22:55.39 | amathis | I am out of date. |
| 22:55.42 | amathis | sorry :) |
| 22:55.59 | CIA-2 | BZFlag: 03atupone * 10bzflag/include/NetHandler.h: common.h should be included first |
| 22:56.13 | Tupone | sorry, still fixing cross compiling |
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| 23:12.36 | CIA-2 | BZFlag: 03atupone * 10bzflag/src/bzfs/ (EntryZones.cxx EntryZones.h ListServerConnection.h): common.h should be the first |
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| 23:14.41 | CIA-2 | BZFlag: 03atupone * 10bzflag/src/bzfs/RejoinList.h: common.h should be the first |
| 23:18.23 | CIA-2 | BZFlag: 03atupone * 10bzflag/src/bzfs/WorldWeapons.h: common.h should be the first |
| 23:23.39 | jifl | are we there yet? |
| 23:23.40 | jifl | are we there yet? |
| 23:24.12 | TimRiker | ~pester jifl |
| 23:24.14 | ibot | jifl: Are we there yet? .. Are we there yet? .. Are we there yet? |
| 23:24.48 | jifl | lol! |
| 23:25.17 | jifl | i think someone said something about it being mac os X builds holding things up? |
| 23:25.40 | jifl | If so, tadd@torborg.com might be interested in helping. he's already playing with 1.11.x on OSX |
| 23:25.41 | orchid | what state is VT? |
| 23:25.57 | TimRiker | vermont |
| 23:26.01 | orchid | ah |
| 23:26.04 | TimRiker | ~vt |
| 23:26.05 | ibot | i heard vt is video terminal |
| 23:26.09 | orchid | :P |
| 23:26.10 | TimRiker | hehe |
| 23:26.19 | TimRiker | ~vt is also vermont |
| 23:26.20 | ibot | okay, TimRiker |
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| 23:31.22 | Grumbler | cool, it plays on my ati mobility.........well, not well, but it plays |
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| 23:31.42 | DTRemenak | why is it that I have a segfault, but gdb and valgrind won't catch it? |
| 23:32.50 | JeffM2501 | are they set to init variables to 0?\ |
| 23:33.23 | DTRemenak | gdb's not |
| 23:33.42 | DTRemenak | valgrind inits should trap the segfault and give me an error report |
| 23:33.49 | DTRemenak | using unaddressed memory or something |
| 23:35.20 | TyroneFHornigh | Lots of FPS games around here, mostly using keyboard for motion, and mouse for aim. |
| 23:35.48 | DTRemenak | that's what you've gotta do if you have vertical aim |
| 23:36.29 | Tupone | DTRemenak: gdb> info handle ? |
| 23:36.31 | TyroneFHornigh | It's interesting watching the players dealing with it. Some do fine, but many others have a hard time coordinating. |
| 23:36.42 | JeffM2501 | you want the most analog controlls to be the ones that controll your shots |
| 23:36.52 | JeffM2501 | since they can have the most angular deviation |
| 23:37.14 | JeffM2501 | also why I laugh at the ideas to use keys for aim up/down, or the wheel |
| 23:37.24 | DTRemenak | Tupone, ? |
| 23:37.38 | Tupone | to see what gdb map to segv |
| 23:37.54 | DTRemenak | SIGSEGV Yes Yes Yes Segmentation fault |
| 23:38.09 | Tupone | try to not pass to program |
| 23:38.09 | TyroneFHornigh | It's definitely interesting to compare our playability to the games I'm seeing around here. |
| 23:38.45 | Tupone | if is the program actuall segfaulting and not valgrind or gdb |
| 23:38.47 | JeffM2501 | bzflag uses "doom" style mouse controlls |
| 23:39.14 | DTRemenak | Tupone, try not to pass what to program? |
| 23:39.22 | Tupone | sigsegv |
| 23:39.37 | DTRemenak | k |
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| 23:39.54 | Tupone | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:40.08 | Legolas | so whats new with the release, hi guys |
| 23:40.35 | DTRemenak | ahh, thx Tupone |
| 23:40.41 | Tupone | :) |
| 23:40.57 | DTRemenak | Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. |
| 23:41.01 | DTRemenak | 0x081931c0 in StateDatabase::ExpressionToken::getNumber (this=0x1e0) |
| 23:41.06 | DTRemenak | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:41.06 | Legolas | guys how do you get it so that people must register before playing? |
| 23:41.10 | DTRemenak | 607 return tokenContents.number; |
| 23:41.31 | Tupone | this seem to low |
| 23:42.27 | DTRemenak | Tupone, so what does that mean? that the object isn't being constructed first? |
| 23:42.56 | Tupone | your a passing an inexistent object |
| 23:43.15 | Tupone | unless gdb is smoking |
| 23:44.09 | DTRemenak | Tupone, bt here http://pastebin.ca/4155 |
| 23:47.46 | Tupone | I guess the evaluationStack.top() is invalid, nothing on the stack |
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| 23:48.35 | Tupone | StateDatabase.cxx:934 |
| 23:48.57 | Tupone | I guess should put some break there :/ |
| 23:50.23 | Tupone | or see what name is |
| 23:50.30 | Tupone | "name" |
| 23:50.49 | DTRemenak | how? |
| 23:50.52 | Legolas | guys how do you get it so that people must register before playing? |
| 23:51.07 | Tupone | gdb> frame 2 |
| 23:51.12 | Tupone | gdb> p name |
| 23:51.53 | Grumbler | legolas it is using the forum registery......for passwords and such |
| 23:52.11 | DTRemenak | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:52.18 | Grumbler | thats why the forum became the official forum |
| 23:53.36 | Tupone | does it have an associated value? e.g. in config |
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| 23:55.22 | Legolas | hey redsox |
| 23:55.32 | redsoxfan90 | legols! |
| 23:55.32 | Legolas | redsox how do you get it so that people must register before playing? |
| 23:55.41 | JeffM2501 | it's a permision |
| 23:55.43 | JeffM2501 | you set it |
| 23:55.46 | JeffM2501 | on the default |
| 23:55.55 | Legolas | what defualt? |
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| 23:56.01 | JeffM2501 | the default group |
| 23:56.06 | JeffM2501 | what version are you using? |
| 23:56.29 | DTRemenak | Tupone, yeah: "" |
| 23:56.37 | redsoxfan90 | hes using 1.11.35 |
| 23:56.38 | DTRemenak | which doesn't eval to an int, obviously |
| 23:56.50 | JeffM2501 | oh and old one |
| 23:56.51 | DTRemenak | still should not crash |
| 23:56.54 | JeffM2501 | 1) upgrade |
| 23:57.06 | JeffM2501 | 2) are you using users, groups, and passwords? |
| 23:57.41 | Legolas | i 1.11.36 im using |
| 23:57.47 | Legolas | no |
| 23:57.53 | Legolas | i have those |
| 23:57.56 | DTRemenak | Tupone, pulling "set trackMarkCulling """ out of the config file stopped the segfault, so that seems to be what was responsible |
| 23:58.09 | DTRemenak | still don't know how it got set that way |
| 23:58.11 | JeffM2501 | if you want registration then you need to setup users/groups ands tuff |
| 23:58.13 | DTRemenak | and it still shouldn't crash |
| 23:58.19 | Legolas | i did |
| 23:58.43 | JeffM2501 | then apply the permision for require reg to the default group |
| 23:58.46 | Tupone | probably test on exist, defined. Something that in the other place is done |
| 23:59.53 | Tupone | probably isSet return true :( |
| 23:59.59 | Legolas | there is no defualt group :-P |
