| 00:03.01 | CIA-4 | BZFlag: 03trepan * 10bzflag/src/bzflag/playing.cxx: the color freak strikes again |
| 00:06.49 | purple_cow | JeffM2501: uhh, it doesn't? i thought one of the largest-by-volume ingredients was cream cheese |
| 00:08.15 | learner | ack, conflicts |
| 00:08.32 | learner | what sneaky lil bas.. msgadmininfo :) |
| 00:10.20 | trepan | i didn't... ? |
| 00:10.29 | trepan | if still got it sittin' here |
| 00:10.32 | trepan | s/if/i've |
| 00:10.49 | learner | you commited |
| 00:11.16 | learner | along with color freaking |
| 00:11.22 | learner | a msgadmininfo handler |
| 00:11.32 | learner | no biggie.. i resolve |
| 00:11.42 | trepan | hell, i actually diffed into a file first, and then repatched after the commit |
| 00:11.53 | trepan | guess how many MsgAdminInfo's there are in my playing.cxx |
| 00:12.03 | learner | dare I wonder.. |
| 00:12.12 | trepan | 2, it patched without complaint |
| 00:12.27 | trepan | sry |
| 00:12.53 | learner | heh |
| 00:13.36 | CIA-4 | BZFlag: 03trepan * 10bzflag/data/fonts/VeraMonoBold_12.fmt: hand tweaking to get rid of the 'y' overline |
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| 00:23.36 | bryjen | the active server/player list web pages are broken http://my.bzflag.org/serverlist.php |
| 00:24.43 | trepan | learner: p.s. i was also planning to shove them into the Server panel... |
| 00:25.30 | JeffM2501 | purple_cow, not so much in the godiva one, |
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| 00:28.21 | DTRemenak | ~trepan++ |
| 00:28.35 | trepan | ~trepan-- |
| 00:28.50 | learner | ~trepan++ |
| 00:29.08 | trepan | can someone mention orange in the next commit? |
| 00:29.52 | bryjen | hmm, two M's oTD for v1.11? although one is from 05 Oct 2004... |
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| 00:31.58 | DTRemenak | "M's oTD"? |
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| 00:32.20 | edging | ~trepan-- |
| 00:32.27 | DTRemenak | heh |
| 00:32.31 | DTRemenak | ~orange++ |
| 00:32.32 | edging | ibot: you ain't that bright |
| 00:32.51 | DTRemenak | ibot is stupid |
| 00:32.52 | ibot | ACTION kicks dtremenak's balls |
| 00:32.54 | DTRemenak | :) |
| 00:33.29 | bryjen | Messages of The Day |
| 00:33.49 | DTRemenak | ahh |
| 00:33.49 | trepan | hehe |
| 00:34.06 | trepan | DTRemenak: guess ya have to a little more subtle |
| 00:34.19 | DTRemenak | I guess :) |
| 00:36.16 | bryjen | where'd my server go? |
| 00:37.28 | bryjen | ack. didn't restore the crontab :( |
| 00:46.36 | cods | compressing a map is just by gzip-ing it ? |
| 00:47.02 | cods | or it's something more complicated ? (like adding some header, or choosing a particular file extension) |
| 00:47.57 | trepan | cods: it's compressed automatically over the wire |
| 00:48.14 | trepan | the cache files are also zlib'ed |
| 00:48.34 | cods | ok |
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| 00:50.08 | trepan | cods: there's also the bzfs -cacheout <map> option for generating cache files to be used with the bzfs -cache <url> option |
| 00:50.14 | bz1967 | hm |
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| 00:51.32 | cods | hmm, what's special in the way the map is cached with cacheout ? |
| 00:51.56 | trepan | it'll be the same file as you'd find i your .bzf/cache client dir |
| 00:52.09 | trepan | the option is in bzfs to make it easy to generate |
| 00:52.40 | cods | hmm ok. Sort of "precompiled" map file ? |
| 00:52.56 | cods | "preparsed" if word exist. |
| 00:53.00 | trepan | exacto-mundo |
| 00:53.05 | trepan | that prolly doesn't exist either |
| 00:53.34 | trepan | pulling maps from a web server takes so of the bandwidth spikes off of low bandwidth bzfs servers |
| 00:53.39 | trepan | s/so/some |
| 00:54.32 | trepan | ~Tupone++ |
| 00:54.39 | Tupone | what I did? |
| 00:54.51 | Tupone | ahhh |
| 00:54.54 | trepan | -cache :) |
| 00:55.00 | trepan | you're still getting payed |
| 00:55.10 | Tupone | lol |
| 00:58.43 | cods | While I'm at asking stupid question, one more thing: group/define blocks, except for saving place in the map, is there possible to build the same result manually without define/group ? I'm trying to find the smallest set of block type in bzflag 2.0 that can't be "emulated" by some other block type. |
| 01:01.08 | cods | In other words, if I'm writing a script that itself already contains code to spread objects in various ways, does supporting group/define of any interest to make something impossible otherwise ? |
| 01:01.22 | cods | s/of any/is of any/ |
| 01:02.40 | trepan | nope, they can be replaced with primitives |
| 01:03.02 | trepan | s/nope, // |
| 01:03.47 | cods | ok. So, if I understand correctly, primitive are teleporter, base, mesh (for concrete objects). Everything else is just "convenient". |
| 01:03.50 | trepan | you can also save a grouped world as a flat one from the client |
| 01:04.15 | trepan | that would about do it |
| 01:05.00 | trepan | fyi: saveFlatFile and saveAsMeshes control how maps are saved |
| 01:05.26 | trepan | there's no menu for them, but you can modify them in the client with /localset |
| 01:05.41 | trepan | ex: /localset saveFlatFile 1 |
| 01:05.41 | cods | oh, very interesting. |
| 01:05.58 | trepan | the save as meshes one is for arcs, cones, spheres, tetras |
| 01:06.41 | trepan | saveFlatFile doesn't get the material properties quite right at the moment |
| 01:06.52 | trepan | but that only affects meshes |
| 01:07.58 | cods | ok |
| 01:08.22 | cods | /localset is supposed to be a bzflag client command ? |
| 01:09.06 | CIA-4 | BZFlag: 03atupone * 10bzflag/src/platform/SDLMedia.cxx: Rem: Careful writing into the environment |
| 01:09.47 | trepan | that it is |
| 01:10.18 | trepan | it will not modify server parameters, ex: _tankSpeed |
| 01:10.48 | trepan | also, only variables that already exist in your config will be saved |
| 01:11.32 | cods | according to my bzflag client (build from today CVS) I get "unknown command" when trying the /localset command. |
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| 01:13.52 | trepan | and it only exists for --enable-debug clients :) |
| 01:14.17 | bryjen | darn. distro upgrade got me a slightly newer libc, but it doesn't seem to have helped with my filter/regex issue :( |
| 01:14.40 | learner | er |
| 01:15.49 | trepan | cods: you can do a "set saveFlatFile 1" in your .bzf/2.0/config.cfg instead |
| 01:17.02 | Tupone | alsa audio is still broken :( |
| 01:18.04 | cods | ok, I understand now. If running as admin, the set is allowed. And localset is supposed to allow the same thing with "normal" account otherwise. |
| 01:18.19 | cods | (for client-side variable) |
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| 01:18.49 | trepan | neither command will work for the other's variables |
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| 01:19.29 | bryjen | ah. current glibc is 2.3.3, so now i'm only 0.0.1 behind, whatever that means |
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| 01:21.05 | trepan | chandler583 is quite the bzbb poster |
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| 01:31.40 | sgk284 | wow shellshock is up2date |
| 01:31.44 | sgk284 | err up to date i mean |
| 01:31.48 | sgk284 | woah too much red hat |
| 01:31.58 | learner | it's da shiztin |
| 01:32.13 | sgk284 | yea its looking nice |
| 01:32.56 | learner | he's been updating it pretty much every day |
| 01:33.16 | sgk284 | some nice mpas |
| 01:33.18 | sgk284 | maps* |
| 01:33.25 | sgk284 | can't wait till the map builders get 1.12 |
| 01:33.35 | sgk284 | err 2.0 or whatever it is now :) |
| 01:34.01 | JeffM2501 | 9.95 |
| 01:34.07 | trepan | 1.99999999999999999999... |
| 01:34.23 | sgk284 | heh |
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