| 00:00.30 | trepan | learner: the tele rico i know about, but where are you getting stuck? |
| 00:01.03 | learner | anywhere on it |
| 00:01.15 | learner | if I jump and hit it.. i stick |
| 00:01.17 | trepan | ah, stickiness, but not stuck stuck |
| 00:01.18 | learner | like on pyramid |
| 00:01.27 | trepan | ya, knew about that one too |
| 00:01.33 | learner | end up sealed and it takes several seconds to unseal |
| 00:01.37 | trepan | thought of it more as a "feature" |
| 00:01.39 | Chestal | hmm, GM and SW are both coloured in white in scoreboard? |
| 00:01.42 | trepan | hmmm, sealing ain't good |
| 00:01.46 | trepan | Chestal: yup |
| 00:02.01 | trepan | was thinking along those lines myself |
| 00:02.38 | trepan | HUDRenderer.cxx / line 1590 (save you the searching) |
| 00:02.39 | learner | heh, that'd explain the "bug" someone told me about earlier today.. couldn't see GM or SW.. |
| 00:02.39 | *** join/#bzflag bryjen (~bryjen@2002:45a6:8672:0:0:0:0:1) |
| 00:03.58 | Chestal | not that it heps find the bug, but the choice to color those differently is questinable anyways |
| 00:04.07 | Chestal | I think whoever did it thought they'd be extra powerful |
| 00:04.45 | trepan | it would be better configurable, but it was a good start |
| 00:04.51 | learner | that started the whole confustion between "superflags" versus other flags |
| 00:05.09 | Chestal | they are all superflags, except for the team flags |
| 00:05.19 | Chestal | (and the antidote flag maybe) |
| 00:05.22 | bryjen | and the bad uns |
| 00:05.29 | Chestal | even the useless flag is a superflag :-) |
| 00:05.45 | learner | i believe there are now many places in the code that contradict that |
| 00:06.15 | learner | where there are good, bad, team, and super.. super consisting of the "powerful" ones (L, GM, SW) |
| 00:06.44 | trepan | ex: N is handy, but it ain't no GM |
| 00:06.59 | Chestal | without jumping, N is more powerful IMHO |
| 00:07.06 | Chestal | it all depends on the situation of course |
| 00:07.09 | learner | not against GM :) |
| 00:07.10 | bryjen | next we need hyper and meta |
| 00:07.11 | Chestal | and SW is rather weak without jumping |
| 00:07.21 | trepan | UberFlags! |
| 00:07.25 | Chestal | learner: with rico it might be :-) |
| 00:07.36 | learner | when do I get my pulse canon? |
| 00:07.54 | trepan | when you send me my voucher for free food |
| 00:08.08 | bryjen | learner: patches welcome |
| 00:08.09 | learner | that's an easy one :) |
| 00:08.14 | trepan | and none of that crappy micky-d's ;) |
| 00:08.31 | learner | or code for food, be you on the other end |
| 00:08.33 | shorty114 | hah barter market |
| 00:08.43 | *** join/#bzflag bz1818 (~d8a0811e@webchat.bzflag.bz) |
| 00:09.11 | trepan | heh, i just wanna see dead bugs, and release flying through the front door |
| 00:09.24 | trepan | *a release... |
| 00:09.34 | learner | think I gave redsoxfan a good lil scare today when I informed him he was on the masterban list |
| 00:09.43 | learner | and I explained what that meant |
| 00:10.01 | trepan | hehe, that the smuck that goes around threatening DoDs? |
| 00:10.06 | bz1818 | ~bzfquery bzflag.kovclan.org:5156 |
| 00:10.07 | learner | this was, of course, while he was on a server driving through building saying "i'm not doing anything" |
| 00:10.22 | trepan | a 1.11.x server? |
| 00:10.31 | learner | no, .10 |
| 00:10.34 | Chestal | what about all your peopel cancel your new year's eve parties and we come together there and do some serious bugfixing and coding? :-) |
| 00:10.47 | learner | Chestal, heh.. |
| 00:10.50 | *** join/#bzflag redsoxfan90 (~18dae8d5@webchat.bzflag.bz) |
| 00:10.57 | MeBigFatGuy | hmmm everyone's nye is at different times :) |
| 00:11.02 | learner | I was actually thinking of maybe hitting up Times Square for the first time |
| 00:11.11 | MeBigFatGuy | wow |
| 00:11.11 | learner | what what timing.. |
| 00:11.19 | learner | s/what what/wow what/ |
| 00:11.31 | bz1818 | hmmmmm... moved the server to a different box behind the firewall. Redirecting the same port to the new box but it doesn't show up in the server list. |
| 00:11.36 | bz1818 | does it take a while? |
| 00:11.42 | redsoxfan90 | NNOOOOOO |
| 00:11.44 | redsoxfan90 | ITS INSTANT |
| 00:11.54 | bz1818 | odd... people are on their playing now |
| 00:12.09 | learner | redsoxfan90, you were warned many many times |
| 00:12.21 | redsoxfan90 | for what? |
| 00:12.38 | learner | bz1818, perhaps one is dmz'd? |
| 00:12.58 | redsoxfan90 | ? |
| 00:13.13 | bz1818 | something along those lines because the only thing that changed was the computer behind the firewall and the one rule pointing the port to that machine |
| 00:13.26 | CIA-4 | BZFlag: 03chestal * 10bzflag/src/bzflag/ (bzflag.cxx playing.cxx playing.h): we have only one StartupInfo instance, so get rid of the silly self-copying |
| 00:13.43 | redsoxfan90 | wats that |
| 00:13.44 | learner | you the guy with the funky router ? |
| 00:13.57 | bz1818 | not that i know of |
| 00:14.46 | trepan | bz1818: you getting connection attempts from the list server? |
| 00:15.00 | bz1818 | not sure. what would i check for? |
| 00:15.17 | learner | bz1818, i'd check for a dmz setting on the router make sure that's pointing to your new box (or turn off the dmz setting) |
| 00:15.28 | redsoxfan90 | learner |
| 00:15.30 | bz1818 | i don't think i have it on |
| 00:15.53 | learner | what kind of router is it? |
| 00:15.54 | bz1818 | was simply pointing anything inbound to port 5156 (where the game is running) to the machine |
| 00:16.05 | bz1818 | are there any other ports the list server would be using? |
| 00:16.05 | redsoxfan90 | learner??? |
| 00:16.09 | learner | what's the host? |
| 00:16.17 | trepan | bz1818: you'll see connection attempts from 69.28.129.166 |
| 00:16.17 | bz1818 | bzflag.kovclan.org:5156 |
| 00:16.28 | trepan | bz1818: but i'd listen to learner first... :) |
| 00:16.30 | bryjen | bzfs needs outbound to port 80 on the listserver |
| 00:16.41 | redsoxfan90 | hi all |
| 00:16.51 | bz1818 | ~bzfquery bzflag.kovclan.org:5156 |
| 00:16.55 | learner | redsoxfan90, if you have something to say or ask, just say or ask it -- you've wasted my time before, so my patience is thin |
| 00:17.20 | *** join/#bzflag blast007 (~blast007@dialup-4.159.80.157.Dial1.Chicago1.Level3.net) |
| 00:17.40 | redsoxfan90 | learner waht did id o to waste ur time and why do i haev many many warning? |
| 00:17.41 | learner | 2 :) |
| 00:18.07 | bryjen | ~bzfquery bzflag.kovclan.org:5156 |
| 00:18.39 | redsoxfan90 | learner what did i do to waste ur time? |
| 00:18.47 | CIA-4 | BZFlag: 03chestal * 10bzflag/src/bzflag/HUDRenderer.cxx: just another minor change |
| 00:19.10 | redsoxfan90 | cia -4 wats that?? |
| 00:19.19 | learner | redsoxfan90, I don't really care to revisit the troubles you've caused of recent -- needless to say, your cheating, ranting, cursing and otherwise disruptive behavior on servers that do not want such behavior are getting tiresome |
| 00:19.35 | learner | ~cia |
| 00:19.38 | ibot | extra, extra, read all about it, cia is a CVS/Subversion commit notification bot run on #commits among other channels, originally by scanline, http://cia.navi.cx/, or the Central Intelligence Agency, but the bot is more important. ;) |
| 00:19.50 | bryjen | ~spell wat |
| 00:19.51 | ibot | possible spellings for wat: Wat Wait Watt wait wart watt what WATS Walt Way waft want war wast way eat WA wt At at VAT Wit vat wad wet wit wot SWAT swat Bat DAT Kat Lat Nat Pat SAT Sat WAC Wac bat cat fat hat lat mat oat pat rat sat tat wag wan was |
| 00:19.59 | redsoxfan90 | first of all i dont cheat |
| 00:20.03 | redsoxfan90 | i dont know how to cheat |
| 00:20.07 | redsoxfan90 | and i dont casue trouble |
| 00:20.14 | redsoxfan90 | so ur mistaking me for someone |
| 00:20.23 | redsoxfan90 | andbrad2901 nos my passwords and he knows cheats |
| 00:20.28 | bryjen | ~spell ur |
| 00:20.28 | ibot | possible spellings for ur: Ur Ir UAR Ru U u URL UT Uri urn yr Eur our R r AR Ar ER Er OR or uh Dur bur cur fur UK UL UN US UV um up us RR |
| 00:20.29 | redsoxfan90 | ok so dont sya im doing this all |
| 00:20.47 | learner | redsoxfan90, only you are responsible for your passwords |
| 00:20.57 | redsoxfan90 | well i dont cheat |
| 00:21.02 | learner | i've seen you cheat |
| 00:21.06 | learner | several times |
| 00:21.06 | redsoxfan90 | were?? |
| 00:21.09 | redsoxfan90 | adn when? |
| 00:21.27 | redsoxfan90 | u shure ur tlaking to the right person? |
| 00:21.54 | learner | and we return to the "wasting my time" part.. there are server logs that have shown it |
| 00:22.04 | redsoxfan90 | please show me then |
| 00:22.06 | learner | many complaints |
| 00:22.08 | redsoxfan90 | tkae the screenshots |
| 00:22.11 | redsoxfan90 | nand prove it |
| 00:22.15 | redsoxfan90 | that is was me |
| 00:22.25 | redsoxfan90 | and if it was me by checking my ip |
| 00:22.37 | redsoxfan90 | nmy emai is msmracing12@yahoo.com |
| 00:22.44 | learner | if it wasn't you, then you have nothing to worry about |
| 00:22.48 | redsoxfan90 | show me hte logs screenshots and prove it to me |
| 00:22.51 | learner | since it obviously won't be your ip right? |
| 00:22.54 | redsoxfan90 | it wasnt me! |
| 00:23.03 | redsoxfan90 | i know my ip |
| 00:23.12 | redsoxfan90 | i iant gonna lie |
| 00:23.14 | redsoxfan90 | show me the logs |
| 00:23.15 | learner | as does everyone else |
| 00:23.15 | bryjen | 24.218.232.213 |
| 00:23.30 | redsoxfan90 | thats my ip |
| 00:23.43 | redsoxfan90 | i aint gonna lie |
| 00:23.52 | redsoxfan90 | im not a lier |
| 00:23.56 | redsoxfan90 | and wont be |
| 00:24.01 | noob_dont | heh |
| 00:24.09 | learner | i really don't care if you lie or don't |
| 00:24.22 | trepan | http://bzflag.tybox.net/forums/viewtopic.php?p=883&sid=a94ff5f607c2a6cdc9c188ac705d94ef#883 |
| 00:24.26 | redsoxfan90 | ok i jsut want u to prove it to me by the logs |
| 00:24.44 | trepan | and yes, it matches your currently listed IRC ip |
| 00:24.55 | redsoxfan90 | hold on let me check |
| 00:24.59 | redsoxfan90 | casue i dont know any cheats |
| 00:25.05 | redsoxfan90 | i have a server up often could be a lag |
| 00:25.24 | redsoxfan90 | i went ot that site nothing happens |
| 00:25.37 | redsoxfan90 | thers a pciture that doesnt show |
| 00:25.41 | redsoxfan90 | and wants me to login |
| 00:26.08 | bz1818 | oops |
| 00:26.17 | SportChick | ~weather KLAX |
| 00:26.21 | Chestal | who is the best person to ask about WeatherRenderer? |
| 00:26.28 | trepan | jeff |
| 00:26.30 | trepan | what's the prob? |
| 00:26.45 | SportChick | what happened to guu? |
| 00:26.53 | SportChick | oh! I see guu = nm |
| 00:27.02 | SportChick | !weather 90277 |
| 00:27.03 | guu` | SportChick: The current temperature in Redondo Beach, California is 59°F (4:15 PM PST on December 28, 2004). Conditions: Rain. Pressure: 29.81 in (1009 hPa). Visibility: 7.0 miles (11.3 kilometers). UV: 0 out of 12 |
| 00:27.03 | Chestal | dropList and puddleList do not seem to get initialzied properly |
| 00:27.06 | redsoxfan90 | learner wats the topic uner? |
| 00:27.13 | trepan | Chestal: ack, how not? |
| 00:27.17 | Chestal | maybe ctor shoudl set them to INVALID_GL_LIST_ID? |
| 00:27.23 | Chestal | they're just ints? |
| 00:27.37 | Aribeth | !weather 94087 |
| 00:27.38 | guu` | Aribeth: The current temperature in Sunnyvale, California is 52°F (3:56 PM PST on December 28, 2004). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 46°F. Pressure: 29.68 in (1005 hPa). Visibility: 10.0 miles (16.1 kilometers). UV: 0 out of 12 |
| 00:27.39 | trepan | should be GLuint's |
| 00:27.46 | MeBigFatGuy | chestal indexes into the GLLists |
| 00:27.47 | Chestal | yes, and GLuints are just ints? |
| 00:27.52 | bz1818 | !weather 80012 |
| 00:27.53 | trepan | unsigned ints |
| 00:27.53 | guu` | bz1818: The current temperature in Aurora, Colorado is 54°F (4:55 PM MST on December 28, 2004). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 30%. Dew Point: 23°F. Pressure: 29.99 in (1015 hPa). Visibility: 25.0 miles (40.2 kilometers). UV: 0 out of 12 |
| 00:28.00 | Chestal | then they're potentially unitialized |
| 00:28.15 | Chestal | the buidl functions check for INVALID_GL_LIST_ID |
| 00:28.15 | trepan | yup, sounds right |
| 00:28.29 | Chestal | but they might have random values, I'll init them to this value in ctor |
| 00:28.47 | trepan | sounds like a plan |
| 00:29.38 | Chestal | my client crashes with valgrind right now |
| 00:29.45 | Chestal | but before that it spews out lots of stuff :-9 |
| 00:30.06 | trepan | mine only goes for about 5 secs, until it hits gethostbyname() |
| 00:30.38 | trepan | Chestal: i see now why it wouldn't have been a prob with those two, glDeleteLists() are safe even if the lists haven't been allocated |
| 00:30.52 | *** join/#bzflag Ping (~d8a0811e@webchat.bzflag.bz) |
| 00:31.04 | trepan | still, right is right ;) |
| 00:32.03 | Chestal | is there a server with rain online? |
| 00:32.15 | trepan | one sec |
| 00:32.29 | trepan | phydrv server should have it |
| 00:32.57 | Chestal | thanks |
| 00:33.13 | redsoxfan90 | trepan |
| 00:33.15 | redsoxfan90 | can u please tlak to me |
| 00:34.20 | CIA-4 | BZFlag: 03chestal * 10bzflag/src/bzflag/WeatherRenderer.cxx: play it safe and init those GLuint list ids |
| 00:35.45 | redsoxfan90 | arhh |
| 00:36.43 | Ping | ~bzfquery bzflag.kovclan.org:5156 |
| 00:38.43 | Pimpinella | redsoxfan90: i've asked you before about telling us about ppl making trouble on servers just after you got banned there |
| 00:39.21 | redsoxfan90 | wat do u mean wat did i do? |
| 00:40.08 | redsoxfan90 | no one ws making trouble on ur server |
| 00:41.17 | learner | redsoxfan90, either you have been really adament on causing trouble or someone else is using your computer for the same end result |
| 00:41.55 | redsoxfan90 | he said its my fualt others were casuing trouble after i left |
| 00:42.08 | redsoxfan90 | someone else is a hacker and is hacking me |
| 00:42.39 | learner | not likely |
| 00:42.41 | blast007 | heh |
| 00:42.43 | redsoxfan90 | my firewall is down csaue of my server is up |
| 00:43.08 | learner | problems started days before you had your server running |
| 00:43.29 | redsoxfan90 | no hackers |
| 00:43.30 | redsoxfan90 | brb |
| 00:43.43 | blast007 | if you were really being "hacked", I don't think running your server would be as important as your firewall |
| 00:44.19 | redsoxfan90 | lol brb! |
| 00:47.02 | trepan | hmmm, i'll try get the tele phy. junk fixed later tonight |
| 00:47.13 | trepan | Chestal: was your handicap kicking due to reload times? |
| 00:47.48 | trepan | (supposed to be a perhaps at the end of that one) |
| 00:48.20 | Chestal | trepan: no, moving too fast |
| 00:48.44 | Pimpinella | was it under redsox's ip that somebody cheated? |
| 00:48.44 | learner | heh, orchid is tearing it up on ducati right now.. |
| 00:48.45 | trepan | will have to reproduce with printouts, it looked fine |
| 00:49.00 | Chestal | there's _somethng_ wrong with the snow on bryjen's server, but it escapes me what it is ;-) |
| 00:49.01 | trepan | tearing it up? |
| 00:49.11 | trepan | Chestal: is it yellow? ;) |
| 00:49.16 | learner | rising quicking kicking much arseage |
| 00:49.43 | trepan | Chestal: hehe, snow don't work like that... |
| 00:50.01 | bryjen | wha? |
| 00:50.02 | Chestal | trepan: there is a global parameter which affects how much you speedup, the server multiplies it's tolerance level by this factor |
| 00:50.34 | Chestal | trepan: but I don't know how exactly the handicap is calculated, is there a limit? Or will I get faster and faster if my score drops? |
| 00:51.05 | bryjen | oh man. |
| 00:51.20 | bryjen | i wonder if rainSpeed need to be negative. |
| 00:51.37 | learner | Chestal, I believe it gets better and better but that there is some peak.. this is a vague recollection though |
| 00:51.40 | trepan | Chestal: it's in LocalPlayer, search for HandicapSpeedAdj |
| 00:51.50 | bryjen | it didn't seem to change as I /set different values. |
| 00:52.04 | *** part/#bzflag trepan (~trepan@trepan.user) |
| 00:52.16 | redsoxfan90 | does anyone know who bosox90 is???? |
| 00:52.32 | learner | ~seen bosox90 |
| 00:52.38 | ibot | learner: i haven't seen 'bosox90' |
| 00:53.10 | Chestal | ok, handicap is between 0 and 1, 0 when wins>=losses, 1 when losses-wins>=20 |
| 00:53.19 | redsoxfan90 | learner were have u seen him? |
| 00:53.54 | learner | redsoxfan90, do you actually have anything positive to contribute at some point? |
| 00:54.00 | *** join/#bzflag shorty114 (~shorty114@shorty114.user) |
| 00:54.16 | redsoxfan90 | lol no |
| 00:54.40 | learner | then please be quiet until you do, stay on topic, listen to others and learn |
| 00:54.45 | Chestal | trepan: so top handicap speed should be 1.5 * normal speed |
| 00:55.19 | Chestal | I think it needs to get squared in server, becaus eit checks squared speed |
| 00:56.25 | CIA-4 | BZFlag: 03chestal * 10bzflag/src/bzfs/bzfs.cxx: speedTolerance adjustment for handicapped mode needs to be squared |
| 00:56.38 | Chestal | I wonder if the forumla to calculate handicap is so good |
| 00:56.51 | Chestal | this is important, because it is done in the client, so we cannot easily change in future revisions |
| 00:59.14 | blast007 | ~seen bosoxfan90 |
| 00:59.15 | ibot | blast007: i haven't seen 'bosoxfan90' |
| 00:59.19 | blast007 | hmm |
| 00:59.23 | CIA-4 | BZFlag: 03chestal * 10bzflag/BUGS: hopefully no more kicking of the handicapped; needs testing |
| 01:00.28 | learner | is there an angular velocity cheat check? |
| 01:01.16 | redsoxfan90 | blast007 |
| 01:01.45 | blast007 | yes? |
| 01:03.20 | learner | blast007 |
| 01:04.33 | MeBigFatGuy | i think so |
| 01:04.41 | learner | i am not 'yes?' worthy.. *sniff* |
| 01:05.01 | blast007 | learner: heh, yes? ;) |
| 01:05.14 | learner | ahh.. feel the love |
| 01:05.20 | blast007 | hehe |
| 01:07.44 | redsoxfan90 | g2g all |
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| 01:29.22 | SilverFox | what's redsoxfan90's server? |
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