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| 02:14.22 | lan56 | http://bzflag.org/wiki/IdeaS?action=diff&date=1097093201 <- I wonder if that idea could have gone two ways: human color, or tank color. either way it is the stupidest idea I've ever heard of |
| 02:16.18 | learner | nah, i've heard more stupid ideas |
| 02:16.48 | learner | and while that could be contrived as a racial statement, I'd imagine it actually wasn't |
| 02:17.02 | learner | probably more along the lines of servers where it's effectively all rogue |
| 02:17.12 | learner | could be wrong, though |
| 02:17.39 | lan56 | well, like I said it could be human racist or just talking about tank colors |
| 02:17.50 | purple_cow | rogue is black/yellow, not white |
| 02:17.51 | lan56 | and I suppose if I thought about it, yes, there are dumber ideas :)) |
| 02:18.02 | lan56 | lets take you for example, learner :) jk |
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| 02:19.27 | learner | yes, I am a dumb idea :) |
| 02:19.42 | purple_cow | huh |
| 02:20.04 | learner | ahh, good point |
| 02:20.11 | learner | fits in with the orca statement too |
| 02:20.16 | lan56 | isn't it already open source? |
| 02:20.18 | DTRemenak | purple_cow: it means that whoever wrote it was smoking crack :) |
| 02:20.23 | learner | that wiley beast has too many versions |
| 02:21.01 | learner | i wonder which orca he was actually referring to |
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| 02:23.13 | learner | hrm.. i don't suppose he meant this orca: http://www.arl.army.mil/slad/Services/SL-Modeling-ORCA.html |
| 02:24.31 | bryjen | "user casualties". that's an interesting phrase |
| 02:24.56 | learner | it's an interesting software package |
| 02:25.38 | bryjen | "battlefield insult." methinks the spell-cehecker meant "injury". or is it another euphonism? |
| 02:25.48 | DTRemenak | learner: my guess goes for the whale :) |
| 02:26.08 | learner | DTRemenak: pffft |
| 02:27.12 | learner | bryjen, me thinks you're right |
| 02:29.29 | bryjen | the navy must be very good at battlefield insults, hence the saying "swares like a sailor" |
| 02:33.59 | learner | mm.. time to shut down and upgrade the raid array |
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| 02:39.23 | amonkey | Hi all. |
| 02:39.53 | amonkey | Anybody know what's the quickest, easiest way to compile BZFlag on Mac OS X? |
| 02:40.05 | amonkey | from downloaded source code? |
| 02:40.07 | amonkey | CVS? |
| 02:41.31 | learner | well if you downloaded it, then just ./configure && make |
| 02:41.42 | learner | if from CVS, then you need to ./autogen.sh too |
| 02:41.52 | amonkey | I downloaded it |
| 02:42.10 | learner | open up Terminal |
| 02:42.18 | amonkey | yes |
| 02:42.28 | learner | where did you download it to? |
| 02:42.35 | learner | desktop? |
| 02:42.37 | amonkey | desktop |
| 02:42.46 | learner | what's the name of the folder it made? |
| 02:42.51 | amonkey | bzflag |
| 02:43.02 | learner | then: cd Desktop/bzflag |
| 02:43.17 | amonkey | ok |
| 02:43.22 | learner | ./configure |
| 02:43.51 | amonkey | so I just type "./configure"? |
| 02:43.55 | learner | yep |
| 02:44.00 | amonkey | ok |
| 02:44.14 | amonkey | then it will make a playable BZFlag? |
| 02:44.25 | learner | not quite.. that will dump out a lot of checking lines |
| 02:44.37 | learner | then you'll need to actually compile |
| 02:44.45 | amonkey | so how do i do that |
| 02:44.49 | learner | when that finishes, type: make |
| 02:45.28 | amonkey | ok |
| 02:45.56 | learner | that will take probably 10-30 minutes depending on your computer |
| 02:46.00 | amonkey | hmm |
| 02:46.07 | amonkey | nothing after that |
| 02:46.08 | learner | where's your 1.10.6 installed? |
| 02:46.09 | amonkey | ? |
| 02:46.28 | learner | Applications? |
| 02:46.31 | amonkey | actually I trashed 1.10.6 when I downloaded 1.10.8 |
| 02:46.41 | amonkey | yep |
| 02:46.43 | learner | heh, can you untrash it? |
| 02:46.46 | amonkey | 1.10.8 anyway |
| 02:46.58 | amonkey | yeah I can download it again |
| 02:47.10 | learner | it's not in your trash can? |
| 02:47.21 | amonkey | no I emptied it long ago |
| 02:47.27 | learner | ah |
| 02:47.35 | bryjen | you've got 1.10.8, or is that what you're trying to compile |
| 02:47.41 | learner | well, you don't "need" 1.10.6 unless you want an icon to double-click |
| 02:48.01 | amonkey | I have 1.10.8 and I'm trying to compile a patched version of it |
| 02:48.09 | bryjen | ahum |
| 02:48.09 | learner | patched? |
| 02:48.16 | amonkey | yup |
| 02:48.21 | learner | hrm.. |
| 02:48.22 | amonkey | i changed the source a litt |
| 02:48.24 | amonkey | le |
| 02:48.33 | amonkey | *little |
| 02:48.34 | learner | dare I inquire in what way? |
| 02:49.07 | amonkey | I downloaded a patch off of sf.net and applied it to the source |
| 02:49.15 | lan56 | ok, he's cool then :) |
| 02:49.20 | learner | hrm |
| 02:49.25 | learner | how did you apply it? |
| 02:50.03 | amonkey | by changing the source to the way it appeared in the patch |
| 02:50.14 | amonkey | didn |
| 02:50.17 | lan56 | next time use GNU "patch", it's easier |
| 02:50.25 | learner | and which patch is this? |
| 02:50.41 | amonkey | pimpinella's 1vs1 patch |
| 02:50.57 | amonkey | it shouldn't create any problems should it? |
| 02:51.25 | learner | many of those patches are getting out of date and will result in a slew of failed chunks .. too much has changed -- especially the ones that make gui mods |
| 02:51.33 | learner | no, pimpi's patch is fine |
| 02:51.43 | learner | probably could have even run "patch" on that one |
| 02:52.20 | amonkey | so how do I use 1.10.6 to create a clicky icon? |
| 02:53.50 | learner | download and drag-drop the icon into your Applications folder like it says |
| 02:54.24 | learner | then in Terminal after the compile completes: |
| 02:55.09 | learner | cp src/bzflag/bzflag /Applications/BZFlag-1.10.6.app/Contents/MacOS/BZFlag |
| 02:55.19 | learner | cp src/bzflag/bzfs /Applications/BZFlag-1.10.6.app/Contents/MacOS/. |
| 02:55.23 | learner | er |
| 02:55.31 | learner | cp src/bzfs/bzfs /Applications/BZFlag-1.10.6.app/Contents/MacOS/. |
| 02:55.41 | learner | cp src/bzadmin/bzadmin /Applications/BZFlag-1.10.6.app/Contents/MacOS/. |
| 02:55.59 | amonkey | oh ok |
| 02:56.03 | learner | that's it -- you can rename the 1.10.6 to 1.10.8 |
| 02:56.34 | amonkey | Terminal tells me after './configure' that there is 'no such file or directory' |
| 02:56.35 | learner | Pimpinella: *ping* |
| 02:59.50 | learner | amonkey: type pwd |
| 02:59.55 | learner | and tell me what it says |
| 03:00.20 | amonkey | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:00.31 | learner | ls -la configure* |
| 03:00.57 | amonkey | oh |
| 03:01.12 | learner | what did it say? |
| 03:01.20 | amonkey | wait not done yet... |
| 03:01.38 | learner | huh? |
| 03:01.50 | amonkey | ls: configure: No such file or directory |
| 03:01.56 | amonkey | thats what it tells me |
| 03:02.05 | learner | you write "ls -la configure*" |
| 03:02.12 | amonkey | with the *? |
| 03:02.17 | learner | WITH the asterisk |
| 03:02.21 | amonkey | OH |
| 03:02.24 | amonkey | ok :) |
| 03:02.48 | amonkey | now it says "-rwxr-xr-x 1 dannymul dannymul 15191 28 Aug 09:43 configure.in" |
| 03:02.54 | learner | tell me you didn't download the .zip .. |
| 03:02.59 | amonkey | yup |
| 03:03.00 | amonkey | i did |
| 03:03.09 | amonkey | what should i have downloaded |
| 03:03.13 | amonkey | ? |
| 03:03.19 | learner | tsk tsk.. go and download either the .tar.gz or the .tar.bz2 |
| 03:03.24 | amonkey | ok |
| 03:03.30 | learner | zip is for windows folk |
| 03:05.12 | amonkey | oh |
| 03:05.22 | learner | same instructions apply |
| 03:05.25 | amonkey | ok i downloaded tar.bz2 |
| 03:05.28 | amonkey | ok |
| 03:06.28 | amonkey | now it says "-rwxr-xr-x 1 dannymul dannymul 263005 7 Oct 10:38 configure |
| 03:06.28 | amonkey | -rw-r--r-- 1 dannymul dannymul 14726 7 Oct 10:34 configure.in" |
| 03:07.37 | amonkey | "make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found. Stop." |
| 03:07.58 | amonkey | hmm |
| 03:08.05 | amonkey | something must be wrong |
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| 03:10.21 | bryjen | did you do ./configure ? |
| 03:11.59 | amonkey | ooh now it worked |
| 03:12.08 | amonkey | its doing something juicy... |
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| 03:41.15 | amonkey | gbye now i'm cool! |
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| 03:51.58 | lan56 | btw, the apprentice is on in 10 minutes PST on nbc |
| 03:52.08 | lan56 | a rerun from this past thursday |
| 04:20.58 | lan56 | alright, extra boardroom footage, was wondering why they cut out so many task footages |
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| 04:32.31 | learner | woo hoo.. |
| 04:32.43 | learner | new drives are nice and fast.. |
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| 04:33.22 | learner | a quick dd is showing a sustained of 53422391 bytes/sec |
| 04:34.12 | learner | beats my previous top-performer! (that is at 38747671 bytes/sec) |
| 04:34.32 | learner | howdy mbfg :) |
| 04:34.57 | mothermellus | what kind of comp does a person with developer skills have |
| 04:35.12 | MeBigFatGuy | yo |
| 04:35.24 | MeBigFatGuy | learner has a mac |
| 04:35.26 | learner | i have a 486 sitting off to the size |
| 04:35.47 | learner | mothermellus, which one? :) |
| 04:35.58 | mothermellus | only one |
| 04:36.05 | mothermellus | kick mother |
| 04:36.14 | Patlabor221 | just like anything a faster computer is better |
| 04:36.41 | learner | she'll drop soon enough |
| 04:36.53 | mothermellus | 486 sounds old |
| 04:37.39 | mothermellus | well, Pat, that is greek to me |
| 04:37.42 | Patlabor221 | what drive speed |
| 04:37.56 | Patlabor221 | mother: what do you want to do? just develop stuff? |
| 04:38.15 | Patlabor221 | learner: it means I can't have 3 monotors till the morrow |
| 04:38.28 | learner | it's a striped array of two wd 7200 jumbo's |
| 04:38.45 | Patlabor221 | nice |
| 04:39.24 | learner | sustaining over 50MB a sec write is really cool |
| 04:39.33 | Patlabor221 | what are you going to do with it? |
| 04:39.35 | sgk284 | i run linux |
| 04:39.37 | sgk284 | :) |
| 04:40.29 | learner | i already had/use it for my data archive .. I'd was just getting close to maxing out the space of the previous array |
| 04:40.42 | learner | the previous raid was 2x50MB more or less |
| 04:40.43 | Patlabor221 | ahh |
| 04:41.10 | Patlabor221 | what is the total size now? |
| 04:41.19 | learner | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:41.43 | Patlabor221 | 250 gig? |
| 04:41.52 | Patlabor221 | ish |
| 04:42.00 | learner | ish, yeah |
| 04:42.12 | learner | 2x120's |
| 04:42.12 | Patlabor221 | 2 120s? |
| 04:42.14 | Patlabor221 | heh |
| 04:42.53 | learner | it's nice you can get a raid 0/1 card for < $50 now |
| 04:43.06 | Patlabor221 | hmm I think this cheap 19 has more viewable then the dell 19 |
| 04:43.20 | Patlabor221 | hardware only gets cheaper |
| 04:43.50 | learner | unless it's replacement parts for my old vaio notebooks |
| 04:43.59 | Patlabor221 | heh |
| 04:48.46 | Patlabor221 | *sigh* only 35 more methods to implement |
| 04:49.36 | trepan | whatcha doing? |
| 04:49.51 | Patlabor221 | IRC users/channels manager |
| 04:50.00 | Patlabor221 | the API got all big real fast |
| 04:50.24 | learner | hrm.. now might be a good time to test out 10.4 |
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| 05:56.22 | lan56 | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hollywood_Walk_of_Fame <- didn' |
| 05:56.28 | lan56 | trealise how huge the list was |
| 06:03.59 | MeBigFatGuy | finally the government comes up with a good plan |
| 06:04.02 | MeBigFatGuy | http://www.weeklyworldnews.com/features/politics/61657 |
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