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| 00:11.42 | SportChick | ~seen Patlabor221 |
| 00:11.43 | ibot | patlabor221 <~JeffM@Patlabor221.active.supporter.pdpc> was last seen on IRC in channel #bzflag, 1h 10m 31s ago, saying: 'I just gloss over most text he pastes :)'. |
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| 00:15.16 | learner | trepan, that's just relative time spent in each of the code sections .. it's a passive profiler, iirc so it can watch who's doing what |
| 00:16.41 | trepan | learner: but still, bzflag 1.11 is slower then ... there's no comparison |
| 00:17.22 | learner | ah, random tuponese comment |
| 00:17.27 | trepan | :) |
| 00:18.15 | trepan | almost have wings3d doing UV mapping for me, gonna make me some spinny billboards |
| 00:18.42 | learner | shibby |
| 00:23.14 | trepan | oh ya, the balloons look better alpha'd, go figure |
| 00:24.04 | learner | trepan, they look awesome! |
| 00:26.05 | trepan | learner: you know the funny part, GL_SMOOTH was already on... |
| 00:26.18 | trepan | we ain't the most optimized crew ;) |
| 00:26.36 | learner | optiwho? I'm not a decepticon |
| 00:26.51 | learner | :) |
| 00:27.31 | trepan | hehe, i almost wanna commit to show ya my spinny text thing-a-mer-bob =) |
| 00:30.20 | learner | why not? :) |
| 00:30.46 | trepan | parts are still quite messy |
| 00:37.24 | purple_cow | you could tag a branch ;) |
| 00:39.52 | trepan | or just clean it up enough to make sure it doesn't screw with anyone else |
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| 00:52.05 | learner | hello jolie |
| 00:52.30 | petitjolie | hi |
| 00:52.47 | petitjolie | looking for your dog |
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| 00:53.50 | learner | petitjolie, he's not here right now .. sometimes he's in #bzleague but I don't see him there either |
| 00:54.05 | petitjolie | yeah, i looked there first |
| 00:54.30 | learner | ~seen your_dog |
| 00:54.31 | ibot | your_dog <~your_dog@216-24-110-228.access.naxs.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #bzleague, 6h 40m 51s ago, saying: 'ughhhhhhhh'. |
| 00:54.36 | learner | ~seen dog |
| 00:54.37 | ibot | dog <~your_dog@216-24-110-254.access.naxs.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #bzleague, 1h 19m 22s ago, saying: 'where is everyone?'. |
| 00:54.47 | learner | hour ago |
| 00:55.16 | petitjolie | is this where he was 1 hr ago |
| 00:55.42 | petitjolie | I'm new to this |
| 00:56.45 | learner | he was in #bzleague |
| 00:57.06 | petitjolie | how would i get there |
| 00:57.31 | learner | type "/join #bzleague" |
| 00:57.40 | learner | hold on a sec.. |
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| 00:57.45 | learner | he's coming |
| 00:57.49 | petitjolie | not to look dumb, but is this the same as instant messaging |
| 00:58.07 | lan56 | oooh, looks like I joined at a good moment |
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| 00:58.34 | dog | someone called? :) |
| 00:58.39 | learner | petitjolie, sort of.. IM for large groups.. more controlled with a lot other neat features |
| 00:58.48 | petitjolie | well, i finally figured some what how this works |
| 00:58.56 | petitjolie | mellus here |
| 00:58.56 | dog | mother? |
| 00:58.59 | learner | ~d |
| 00:59.00 | dog | ohhhhhhh |
| 00:59.00 | dog | kewl :) |
| 00:59.01 | petitjolie | yes |
| 00:59.18 | learner | ~bzflist |
| 00:59.23 | learner | heh, mother.. |
| 00:59.49 | petitjolie | didnt really want everyone to know who I was. :( |
| 00:59.57 | petitjolie | oh well |
| 01:00.03 | Nidhoggr | we're harmless. |
| 01:00.04 | Nidhoggr | :) |
| 01:00.09 | dog | join #bzleague mother |
| 01:00.13 | learner | If it's any comfort.. |
| 01:00.13 | lan56 | doesn't matter if we know what relationship people have |
| 01:00.17 | learner | i still have no idea who you are |
| 01:00.24 | lan56 | we all have relationships with everyone else |
| 01:00.25 | petitjolie | i'd rather be foolish anonymously |
| 01:00.30 | dog | we'll keep it that way ;) |
| 01:00.31 | lan56 | and learner is correct |
| 01:00.52 | lan56 | so, what's your credit card number? ;) |
| 01:00.56 | petitjolie | dog, what do you mean join bzleague |
| 01:00.57 | Nidhoggr | heh |
| 01:01.00 | petitjolie | LOL |
| 01:01.02 | learner | ~lart lan56 |
| 01:01.16 | lan56 | sorry, just needed some financial help these days :) |
| 01:01.21 | dog | petitjolie: type: /join #bzleague |
| 01:01.23 | petitjolie | np |
| 01:01.35 | petitjolie | where |
| 01:01.37 | learner | lan56, send me your credit card number and I'll help you out :) |
| 01:01.43 | lan56 | sure thing |
| 01:01.44 | dog | where you are |
| 01:01.52 | petitjolie | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:01.57 | dog | hehe |
| 01:01.57 | learner | petitjolie, you can type it like any other message |
| 01:02.27 | bryjen | learner: i didn't know you were nigerian ;) |
| 01:02.56 | petitjolie | dog, is this your chat room |
| 01:03.00 | dog | not this one |
| 01:03.18 | learner | heh :) |
| 01:03.30 | petitjolie | ok, if i see you tomorrow, you can give me details |
| 01:04.03 | dog | alrighty |
| 01:04.07 | dog | g'nite mother! :) |
| 01:04.14 | petitjolie | g'nite dog |
| 01:04.15 | learner | heh |
| 01:04.40 | petitjolie | forgot to give the exp date 00/09 |
| 01:05.09 | learner | wow, that milk will last forever |
| 01:05.20 | dog | lol |
| 01:07.02 | learner | trepan, you want me to set up that cvs branch so that you can commit? :) |
| 01:07.04 | CIA-4 | BZFlag: 03dtremenak * 10bzflag/src/bzflag/ServerMenu.cxx: quell braindead warning |
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| 01:09.37 | lan56 | /join #bz |
| 01:09.38 | lan56 | :) |
| 01:11.03 | trepan | learner: heh, no thanks. i'll probably dump it in tomorrow |
| 01:14.40 | trepan | good point though, think i'll tag... it's a 77K patch + 18 new files |
| 01:18.30 | trepan | and we really should tag before every protocol breakage anyways |
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| 01:40.39 | Rounin | Hey, I???????? |
| 01:40.44 | Rounin | Err, let's try again |
| 01:40.51 | Rounin | Hey, I was wondering about something |
| 01:40.55 | lan56 | sure, what? |
| 01:41.04 | Rounin | The radar - When you set it to shot length 3, it gets so small |
| 01:41.12 | Rounin | There's actually room for a radar nearly twice the size |
| 01:41.21 | tea|tree_ | nite all |
| 01:41.25 | lan56 | g'night |
| 01:41.28 | lan56 | rounin: press 1 |
| 01:41.31 | Rounin | Wouldn't it be reasonable to make it larger? |
| 01:41.35 | Rounin | Nite tea|tree_ |
| 01:41.43 | tea|tree_ | 4 am here ;) |
| 01:41.45 | Rounin | lan56: Well, that would make the range shorter |
| 01:41.58 | lan56 | ahh |
| 01:41.59 | Rounin | I want to press 3 and have it be as large as possible within the constraints of the window |
| 01:42.08 | Rounin | Which would make the visibility better |
| 01:42.18 | lan56 | well, the visiblity is unlimited |
| 01:42.23 | lan56 | the map would just be smaller |
| 01:42.30 | Rounin | No it isn't unless you have a 30" monitor |
| 01:42.32 | Rounin | Exactly |
| 01:42.43 | Rounin | I'd like it to be bigger, you see |
| 01:42.50 | Rounin | :) |
| 01:42.54 | lan56 | I see |
| 01:42.59 | lan56 | do you know C++? |
| 01:43.01 | lan56 | or C? |
| 01:43.09 | Rounin | Err... What's that *cough cough* |
| 01:43.23 | lan56 | it's just a programming language, the one bzflag is made out of |
| 01:43.30 | Rounin | OK, I know C |
| 01:43.39 | Rounin | I'm just not good at reading other peoples' code |
| 01:43.54 | Rounin | I wonder though - If I made my radar larger, it would kind of be cheating |
| 01:43.59 | lan56 | not really |
| 01:44.00 | learner | Rounin, you can change the size of the radar |
| 01:44.05 | Rounin | Since I'd be the only one to have a big radar with long range |
| 01:44.17 | Rounin | I know learner, but not to the extent that I want |
| 01:44.19 | lan56 | he means to a size that is not implemented |
| 01:44.24 | Rounin | I want it to be big in proportion to its own window |
| 01:44.36 | lan56 | he wants to see farther than #3 can go |
| 01:44.41 | Rounin | No |
| 01:44.42 | learner | Rounin, there's a patch for a full-screen map overlay that hasn't been fully tested |
| 01:44.47 | Rounin | I want it to have range 3, but be bigger |
| 01:44.52 | lan56 | ahh |
| 01:44.56 | Rounin | That sounds cool, learner |
| 01:45.05 | Rounin | Though ideally, I'd want the radar to fill the window better |
| 01:45.10 | learner | Rounin, I'm saying you can make it "bigger" .. set the transparency to none |
| 01:45.21 | Rounin | And that will make it bigger how |
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| 01:45.37 | learner | Rounin, try it and see .. then increase the size |
| 01:45.40 | Rounin | Let's see |
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| 01:45.44 | lan56 | and it isn't cheating to have a smaller or bigger radar, btw |
| 01:47.27 | Rounin | Yeah, it got a bit bigger, but not enough |
| 01:47.38 | Rounin | See, I want it to be *bigger* |
| 01:47.44 | Rounin | And not the radar window, but the radar |
| 01:48.13 | lan56 | to make the map smaller, therfore seeing farther around? |
| 01:48.19 | lan56 | the map in the radar |
| 01:48.25 | Rounin | No, to make it bigger, so I can make any sense of it |
| 01:48.30 | lan56 | ahh |
| 01:48.38 | Rounin | You say that all the time :) |
| 01:48.39 | lan56 | zoom in more, you mean? |
| 01:48.43 | Rounin | Yes, exactly :) |
| 01:48.52 | lan56 | then speak english, please! :) |
| 01:48.56 | lan56 | ahh :) |
| 01:49.00 | Rounin | Why don't you read English |
| 01:49.05 | Rounin | But yeah |
| 01:49.08 | lan56 | because I speak stupid :) |
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| 01:49.15 | Rounin | Ah, let's both speak it together then |
| 01:49.21 | lan56 | sure |
| 01:49.30 | Rounin | Hm, I wonder why it gets so small though |
| 01:49.38 | Rounin | In setting 1 and 2, the window's completely filled up, which is fine |
| 01:49.46 | Rounin | But in setting 3 you have this huge window with a tiny, tiny map |
| 01:49.55 | Rounin | It's like a little dot with some dots in it |
| 01:50.13 | lan56 | you mean the difference between #2 and #3 is too great? |
| 01:50.22 | Rounin | No, you already know what I mean |
| 01:50.36 | lan56 | just making sure, seemed as if there is a diff problem for a sec :) |
| 01:50.39 | Rounin | The map should be bigger, but with the same range |
| 01:50.55 | Rounin | Here's the map, right [ . ] |
| 01:51.00 | Rounin | It should be like this: [o] |
| 01:51.18 | lan56 | you mean you want #1 setting to have more zoom, yes? |
| 01:51.23 | Rounin | Nooooooooooooooooooo |
| 01:51.27 | lan56 | #3? |
| 01:51.37 | Rounin | Same range - Different size |
| 01:51.50 | lan56 | ahh |
| 01:51.53 | Rounin | See, when you press 1, the radar's filled with objects |
| 01:51.54 | orchid | now im confused |
| 01:51.59 | Rounin | In setting 2, it's filled with objects |
| 01:52.09 | Rounin | In setting 3, you see a tiny little map in the middle of the radar |
| 01:52.15 | Rounin | With loads of empty space around it |
| 01:52.22 | Rounin | How many more ways could I say it |
| 01:52.26 | lan56 | you want to eliminate the empty space? |
| 01:52.31 | Rounin | Yes |
| 01:52.37 | Rounin | You're just taking a piss, aren't you =P |
| 01:52.38 | bryjen | in order to see farther, it has to get smaller because the bounding box stays the same size |
| 01:52.41 | lan56 | yes :) |
| 01:52.44 | Rounin | Haha |
| 01:52.53 | Rounin | bryjen: But not smaller than the actual window divided by two |
| 01:52.57 | lan56 | someone translate what bryjen just said :) |
| 01:52.59 | Rounin | Which it seemingly does |
| 01:53.08 | bryjen | it has to get smaller |
| 01:53.40 | bryjen | at level 2, if you are at the center of the map, the map size matches the radar box size |
| 01:54.10 | Rounin | Yes |
| 01:54.18 | Rounin | So at level 3, it should match the radar box size / 2 |
| 01:54.23 | bryjen | if you drive off toward one edge, part of the map slips outside the radar box |
| 01:54.57 | bryjen | in order to keep the whole map inside the radar box, getting to see farther, the map has to be smaller |
| 01:55.10 | Rounin | That's irrelevant |
| 01:55.12 | Rounin | It's too small |
| 01:55.23 | bryjen | then don't use level 3 |
| 01:55.28 | Rounin | I want the range |
| 01:55.29 | lan56 | get ready for a netsplit I suppose |
| 01:55.35 | bryjen | you can't have both |
| 01:55.41 | Rounin | Yes, I can |
| 01:55.45 | Rounin | Which is why I brought it up |
| 01:55.47 | bryjen | patches welcome. |
| 01:55.57 | Rounin | Thanks for that informative solution, bryjen |
| 01:56.00 | lan56 | heh |
| 01:56.04 | Rounin | Let me actually go and check the radar out more carefully |
| 01:56.17 | Rounin | I should grab some screenshots as well |
| 01:56.25 | Rounin | Was it F5 one used? |
| 01:56.30 | lan56 | yes |
| 01:56.33 | Rounin | Thanks |
| 01:56.41 | lan56 | we already know what a radar looks like though :) |
| 01:57.06 | orchid | gimp it up to show how youd like to see it tho |
| 01:57.33 | bryjen | you can't have more range without the image getting smaller or the bounding box getting bigger |
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| 01:58.38 | Rounin | Yeah, I will |
| 01:58.41 | Rounin | Brb |
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| 02:00.28 | learner | hrm.. that was odd |
| 02:00.35 | lan56 | what? |
| 02:00.36 | orchid | not an easy one to explain, but he seemed a tad impatient |
| 02:00.37 | lan56 | the netsplit? |
| 02:00.42 | lan56 | oh |
| 02:00.54 | lan56 | he was a bit unclear |
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| 02:01.03 | lan56 | or did I just not get it? |
| 02:02.14 | bryjen | you and me both, brother ;) |
| 02:02.30 | lan56 | good to hear, sister ;) |
| 02:02.34 | learner | oh, brother, where art thou? |
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| 02:02.59 | lan56 | shakespear? |
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| 02:03.45 | lan56 | isn't "_P_NOWAITO" the spanish version of "_P_NOWAIT"? :) |
| 02:04.18 | lan56 | when dealing with _spawnx()? :) |
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| 02:25.12 | Rounin | OK, I think I got it |
| 02:25.16 | Rounin | The radar could be 40% bigger |
| 02:25.22 | Rounin | http://home.no.net/david/current.jpg |
| 02:25.25 | Rounin | http://home.no.net/david/big.jpg |
| 02:26.23 | Patlabor221 | it overlaps the target thing |
| 02:26.52 | Rounin | What overlaps what? |
| 02:27.04 | Rounin | Anyway, both are range 3, and the 2nd one is 40% bigger than the first one |
| 02:27.09 | Patlabor221 | the target box |
| 02:27.39 | Rounin | That's not the point |
| 02:27.47 | Patlabor221 | ohh I know what your point is |
| 02:27.50 | Rounin | That's the same in this version |
| 02:27.58 | Rounin | The map itself is bigger in the 2nd picture |
| 02:28.01 | Rounin | Not the box |
| 02:28.04 | Patlabor221 | you've taken out the translation |
| 02:28.09 | Patlabor221 | and slaped a texture behind it |
| 02:28.11 | Rounin | Oh great, not another one |
| 02:28.13 | Patlabor221 | and made it fit |
| 02:28.28 | Rounin | The texture was just a coincidence |
| 02:28.41 | Rounin | See how the map in the 2nd picture is bigger than the one in the first? |
| 02:28.48 | Rounin | It fills the whole window |
| 02:28.49 | Patlabor221 | yes, I said I see your point |
| 02:28.56 | Rounin | Cool |
| 02:29.02 | Patlabor221 | and you took out the translation |
| 02:29.09 | Patlabor221 | it looks kinda lame to me |
| 02:29.10 | Rounin | What translation |
| 02:29.17 | Rounin | You mean the shift |
| 02:29.21 | Patlabor221 | yes |
| 02:29.25 | Rounin | Oh, right, well, see, you could still keep that |
| 02:29.27 | Patlabor221 | that's another word for tranlation :) |
| 02:29.32 | Rounin | Yeah, I remembe that now |
| 02:30.00 | Rounin | Well, I guess technically you couldn't keep all of the translation, now that you mention it |
| 02:30.01 | Patlabor221 | and it shoudl be round |
| 02:30.12 | Rounin | But now you can at least see what you're doing without using a map the size of a stamp |
| 02:30.17 | bryjen | not moving the map under the "tank" is what lets you keep all of the bigger map visible |
| 02:30.26 | Patlabor221 | yeah |
| 02:30.42 | Patlabor221 | it's gotta look wonkey |
| 02:31.00 | Patlabor221 | the radar is not suposed to be the primpary display :) |
| 02:31.07 | lan56 | radar is essential to good skill |
| 02:31.14 | Rounin | Yeah, I happen to prefer the radar |
| 02:31.19 | lan56 | otherwise, you can't see around corners |
| 02:31.23 | Rounin | But OK, I see your point, it would ruin the point of translation |
| 02:31.24 | lan56 | or far away |
| 02:31.24 | Patlabor221 | only bacause of current maps and gameplay |
| 02:31.32 | Rounin | But it would be *BIGGER*, see :) |
| 02:31.36 | bryjen | real radar can |
| 02:31.36 | lan56 | alright, then lets just always use an empty map |
| 02:31.38 | Rounin | Bigger and range 3 at the same time |
| 02:31.42 | bryjen | not see thru objects |
| 02:31.55 | lan56 | even on an empty map, you can't see behind you without radar |
| 02:31.59 | Rounin | Sorry about the texture though, that was just a fluke |
| 02:32.11 | Rounin | I had grass behind the radar in the second shot |
| 02:32.14 | Rounin | *Laughs* |
| 02:32.20 | lan56 | (insert laughs here) |
| 02:32.56 | Rounin | But even though you'd ruin the translation, you could keep the rotation intact |
| 02:33.04 | Rounin | So that the user would still see what way they were facing on the map |
| 02:33.22 | Patlabor221 | so are you making that a patch? |
| 02:33.42 | Rounin | I'm making that a suggestion to people who might like the idea :) |
| 02:33.57 | Rounin | I'm far too busy... Doing important things, you know |
| 02:33.59 | Patlabor221 | so make it a patch |
| 02:34.05 | Patlabor221 | then it's never gonna get done |
| 02:34.13 | Rounin | I suspected as much |
| 02:34.23 | Patlabor221 | that's why it's a "comunity" project |
| 02:34.28 | Rounin | Mhm |
| 02:35.25 | Patlabor221 | what kind of important things? cus I dono. |
| 02:35.37 | lan56 | "important" stuff |
| 02:35.40 | Rounin | Drinking Pepsi |
| 02:35.52 | lan56 | in the long run, I think he means |
| 02:35.58 | Rounin | Another thing though, which I actually could make a patch for in theory |
| 02:36.05 | Rounin | A GUI option for switching to Anaglyphic view |
| 02:36.19 | Rounin | Is it possible to switch that while the game's running, though? |
| 02:36.33 | Rounin | Because that must be one of the coolest features of bzflag |
| 02:36.39 | Patlabor221 | sure if you reinit the visual, window, and display |
| 02:37.20 | Rounin | That would be kind of cool... When you got a headache, you could just switch it off and take off your glasses |
| 02:37.26 | lan56 | whats anaglyphic view? |
| 02:37.35 | Rounin | 3D glasses 80's retro mode :D |
| 02:37.37 | Patlabor221 | the red/blue sterio |
| 02:37.44 | Rounin | Or "I can't see what color my team is"-mode |
| 02:38.17 | lan56 | ever got a lemon for a car? |
| 02:38.40 | Rounin | Can't say I have |
| 02:38.57 | TimRiker | well, red/cyan, but that's the idea. |
| 02:39.01 | Rounin | Yeah |
| 02:39.23 | Patlabor221 | most humans don't know cyan |
| 02:39.26 | Rounin | The color balance is so much better than with red/green |
| 02:39.50 | Patlabor221 | get a polaised screen then no issues |
| 02:39.57 | TimRiker | red/green lacks blue. red/blue lacks green. red/cyan has full color. |
| 02:40.26 | Patlabor221 | well at least full color across 2 eyes |
| 02:40.27 | Rounin | Mhm |
| 02:40.40 | TimRiker | Patlabor221: nod |
| 02:40.44 | lan56 | that would be neat to have a program output hex values to an HTML file showing every single color displayable, like from 000000 - FFFFFF |
| 02:40.58 | lan56 | it would be neat to see all the colors that are not viewable by humans |
| 02:41.01 | Rounin | There are screens with special lenses these days, aren't there |
| 02:41.07 | Patlabor221 | lan56: there are pages that do that |
| 02:41.08 | Rounin | Parallax barriers or whatever |
| 02:41.19 | lan56 | that show a sample of every color possible? |
| 02:41.25 | Patlabor221 | and prety much anything a monitor can do, a person can see, so it's in that range |
| 02:41.32 | Rounin | Well, RGB can't display all colors possible, with today's definition |
| 02:41.34 | Patlabor221 | it's just 16 million colors |
| 02:41.38 | TimRiker | like this: http://www.immigration-usa.com/html_colors.html ? |
| 02:41.42 | Rounin | You need to be using L*A*B colors for that or something |
| 02:41.53 | Patlabor221 | Rounin: since there are an infinate number of colors, that would make sense |
| 02:41.58 | Rounin | True :) |
| 02:42.02 | TimRiker | oh, those are just the standard html colors not the complete set. |
| 02:42.07 | lan56 | I mean every single 16 million color |
| 02:42.12 | lan56 | yes |
| 02:42.14 | Rounin | Anyway, humans can sense a purer yellow than R 255 G 255, for instance |
| 02:42.21 | Rounin | But computers can't display it |
| 02:42.23 | Patlabor221 | yes |
| 02:42.36 | Patlabor221 | due to phospohor technology |
| 02:42.48 | Rounin | Ah, is that it |
| 02:42.50 | Patlabor221 | difrent monotors handle it better |
| 02:42.53 | Rounin | Nice |
| 02:42.55 | lan56 | it'd still be neat to see all the colors regardless of human viewable |
| 02:43.14 | Rounin | Mhm |
| 02:43.22 | lan56 | go girl |
| 02:43.46 | learner | girl, hmm? who wha? |
| 02:44.14 | Patlabor221 | lan, then just make an app |
| 02:44.18 | Patlabor221 | it's just 3 loops |
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| 02:44.31 | lan56 | I know, but how? it counts in decimal |
| 02:44.41 | Rounin | Just printf it in hex, innit |
| 02:44.51 | Rounin | Count from 0 to 255 and output it in hex |
| 02:44.51 | lan56 | but it won't keep the leading zeros |
| 02:44.57 | Rounin | printf will |
| 02:45.00 | Rounin | At least in C |
| 02:45.05 | menotume | %02x |
| 02:45.10 | lan56 | hmm, I oughta try that |
| 02:45.15 | Rounin | ... Just what I was about to say *cough cough* |
| 02:45.23 | menotume | :D |
| 02:45.25 | Rounin | :) |
| 02:45.35 | lan56 | up to 255? I want all 16 million colors |
| 02:45.45 | Rounin | Yeah, but each loop needs to count to 255 |
| 02:45.46 | lan56 | 000000 - ffffff |
| 02:45.54 | Rounin | 256*256*256 = 16 million something |
| 02:46.02 | Rounin | Each loop counts from 00 to FF |
| 02:46.10 | lan56 | ahh |
| 02:46.12 | Rounin | :) |
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| 02:46.27 | Rounin | Not that I've ever made it work |
| 02:46.31 | lan56 | then I can't mix colors |
| 02:46.35 | Rounin | But I think I tried to do it in PHP or something |
| 02:46.45 | Rounin | Mix? Each color has a unique value =P |
| 02:46.57 | lan56 | FFF222 for example |
| 02:47.11 | lan56 | that would only do 000000 - 0000FF |
| 02:47.11 | menotume | brown |
| 02:47.14 | lan56 | for example |
| 02:47.14 | TimRiker | need to make an html table with say 256 dots across and then 64k dots tall. |
| 02:47.31 | Rounin | No, the first loop counts to 0000FF |
| 02:47.35 | Rounin | Then the second loop ticks |
| 02:47.43 | Rounin | And so on |
| 02:47.49 | TimRiker | first play with tables to get 1 pixel cells with no border. |
| 02:47.52 | lan56 | ahh, I'll figure it out |
| 02:47.54 | Rounin | :) |
| 02:47.59 | lan56 | it would be a huge html file too :) |
| 02:48.04 | lan56 | like 1gb |
| 02:48.05 | Rounin | Yeah, insanely so |
| 02:48.10 | menotume | 16 million cells in a table ? |
| 02:48.12 | learner | TimRiker: I have a lil proggie around here somewhere that would convert an image into a massive html table of dots |
| 02:48.26 | lan56 | IE can! |
| 02:48.41 | Rounin | Hehe :D |
| 02:48.46 | learner | didn't take me long to write.. was pretty fun, but practically useless -- many browsers couldn't handle anything but small pics :) |
| 02:49.46 | lan56 | I always thought that a language interpreter could go faster if while it waits for input, it could continue on parsing the source file, and checks for key presses every few milleseconds |
| 02:49.53 | lan56 | that way, it maximizes its time |
| 02:50.01 | Patlabor221 | hmm, sleep, paragon, norath, or code? |
| 02:50.09 | lan56 | unless a source file doesnt have input |
| 02:50.15 | Rounin | What are alternatives 2 and 3? |
| 02:50.29 | menotume | waits for input ? (interrupts) |
| 02:50.42 | lan56 | it doesnt wait for input, thats the thing |
| 02:50.44 | Patlabor221 | lan56: all mesage based systems do that |
| 02:50.47 | lan56 | it -checks- for input |
| 02:50.55 | Patlabor221 | lan56: your describing a winproc |
| 02:51.03 | learner | awesome |
| 02:51.09 | Patlabor221 | perhaps you should come out of the land of the console app |
| 02:51.12 | learner | ~trepan++ |
| 02:51.15 | lan56 | I mean like instead of halting the entire program, just show a prompt and continue parsing until the user starts inputing |
| 02:51.22 | lan56 | maybe :) |
| 02:51.24 | learner | ~trepan++ |
| 02:51.28 | menotume | lol |
| 02:51.28 | lan56 | I do know a lot of the windows api though |
| 02:51.31 | Patlabor221 | you mean like a "text edit" item |
| 02:51.40 | Patlabor221 | you allways say how you like to learn |
| 02:51.44 | lan56 | I do |
| 02:51.45 | trepan | learner: guess i should stop fooling around and finish the stuff though ;) |
| 02:52.17 | Patlabor221 | naw it's total crap if it's not karma |
| 02:52.20 | learner | fooling around? |
| 02:52.22 | trepan | lol |
| 02:52.24 | learner | fool.. keep fooling ;) |
| 02:52.33 | trepan | http://members.rogers.com/trepan/spinny.mpg |
| 02:52.39 | learner | that is great |
| 02:52.46 | TimRiker | configure: warning: bzAdmin build has been requested, but GL is not fully available <- I thought that was fixed now? |
| 02:52.56 | trepan | had to fight with ppmtompeg, what a pain in the butt that is |
| 02:53.22 | trepan | TimRiker: ack, i thought so too |
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| 02:59.36 | Rounin | Everybody highlight Quol_detached |
| 03:01.12 | lan56 | http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1018397&group_id=3248&atid=353248 |
| 03:01.19 | lan56 | that's the silliest request I've ever seen |
| 03:01.53 | lan56 | I don't truly see how there is a problem with what he is saying, let alone any annoyance |
| 03:03.10 | learner | that's not a silly request |
| 03:03.25 | learner | his solution may be, but he's wanting a fix to what is actually a misleading problem |
| 03:03.32 | learner | or at least what can be |
| 03:03.42 | learner | especially for maps like bunny hunt |
| 03:03.56 | trepan | scores are overrated, it's all about that zen moment when you can make three kills on a three shot server during a single jump |
| 03:04.10 | learner | that is, assuming you even care about ranking .. that's the silly part perhaps |
| 03:04.20 | Rounin | Hmm |
