| 00:00.23 | RPG_ | ~nslookup momentum.is-a-geek.net |
| 00:00.35 | bryjen | if you just moved the cable, your PC probly wasn't aware that it should be using that address |
| 00:00.42 | RPG_ | oh |
| 00:00.56 | orchid | what ports your server on? |
| 00:00.56 | bryjen | Windows 9x/2k/XP ? |
| 00:01.01 | RPG_ | XP |
| 00:01.04 | RPG_ | SP1 |
| 00:01.10 | RPG_ | port=5156 |
| 00:01.16 | orchid | ok |
| 00:01.25 | RPG_ | sorry guys i gotta go for today |
| 00:01.33 | bryjen | ipconfig /renew in a command window, i think, after moving the cable |
| 00:01.38 | RPG_ | ok |
| 00:01.42 | RPG_ | ill be back tommorow |
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| 00:02.58 | bryjen | he seemed somewhat knowledgable, claiming to have a software firewall and having config'ed it for bzfs |
| 00:03.07 | orchid | yup |
| 00:03.28 | orchid | i have a good feeling he will get it fixed :) |
| 00:04.39 | bryjen | purple_cow and anyone else listening: DECKS ?!?! |
| 00:04.42 | orchid | hmm, still 8gb to transfer, might not make the decks tonight |
| 00:05.03 | bryjen | aua |
| 00:05.11 | orchid | oh, its rsync, i can ctrl+c it |
| 00:05.15 | orchid | and redo the command again? |
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| 00:05.28 | orchid | hi doughecka |
| 00:05.38 | bryjen | is it several files? |
| 00:06.01 | orchid | bryjen: yeah its many files |
| 00:06.06 | bryjen | hmm, it may even work on one file. as its a "synchronize" |
| 00:06.14 | orchid | 15000 +_ |
| 00:06.17 | bryjen | eep |
| 00:07.09 | purple_cow | bryjen: i can start setting things up once i finish this last problem |
| 00:08.11 | bryjen | no hurry, dinners about to be on here. i think Tupone's availability window closes in an hour tho |
| 00:08.50 | Tupone | I'm still here. I have a decks in Toronto, setup but it lags actually, and jitter. But that could be for an rsync |
| 00:14.10 | CIA-4 | BZFlag: 03atupone * 10bzflag/ (include/PlayerInfo.h src/bzfs/bzfs.cxx): |
| 00:14.10 | CIA-4 | BZFlag: Remove TimeKeeper argument to IsTooMuchIdling, as it is already |
| 00:14.10 | CIA-4 | BZFlag: available as "now" |
| 00:14.25 | CIA-4 | BZFlag: 03atupone * 10bzflag/src/game/PlayerInfo.cxx: |
| 00:14.25 | CIA-4 | BZFlag: Remove TimeKeeper argument to IsTooMuchIdling, as it is already |
| 00:14.25 | CIA-4 | BZFlag: available as "now" |
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| 00:25.58 | amonkey | Is bzflag.hepcat.org currently down? |
| 00:26.42 | amonkey | I can't go to hepcat's site. |
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| 00:29.40 | orchid | ~bzflquery |
| 00:29.53 | orchid | ~bzfsquery |
| 00:30.07 | orchid | ~bzfbleh |
| 00:30.49 | orchid | ~bzflist |
| 00:33.08 | bestbuddyever | I'm curious if anyone has noticed/cared my posting about the java tool to make .bzw maps. |
| 00:40.23 | trepan | bestbuddyever: i think that the 'blender' approach to map editing will be the way forward with tetras and potentially meshes |
| 00:40.48 | bestbuddyever | not familiar with blender |
| 00:41.00 | trepan | especially since i'm adding per plane textures, texture coords, textures matrices, and normals this weekend |
| 00:41.19 | DTRemenak | eek :) |
| 00:41.19 | trepan | it'd take you a while to do a proper editor for that kinda stuff |
| 00:41.30 | trepan | DTRemenak: common, you know you love it =) |
| 00:41.53 | DTRemenak | heh, maybe a little ;) |
| 00:42.04 | trepan | anyone have a decent 'BZFlag 1.12.0' banner texture that I could use for testing? something around 32x256 or 64x256 ? |
| 00:42.58 | trepan | for now, i figure we'll just have users download 'texture packs' themselves, and stick them in a downloads/ subfolder in data/, unless anyone has a better suggestion |
| 00:43.33 | bestbuddyever | blender is a new map editor, or based on bzedit? |
| 00:43.34 | trepan | seems a safe way to do it, you have to actively go out and fetch any nastiness |
| 00:43.47 | trepan | bestbuddyever: blender is an advanced 3D model/scene editor |
| 00:43.50 | purple_cow | trepan: sweet :) |
| 00:44.06 | bryjen | ~google blender |
| 00:44.16 | trepan | ~google wings3d |
| 00:44.26 | purple_cow | bestbuddyever: blender is a real 3d editor/modeller, and i've hacked up some script extensions to it that let you make maps with it |
| 00:45.10 | trepan | purple_cow: would have problems generating a fourth vertex for tetras? |
| 00:45.29 | trepan | there is an example in the 3ds2bzw.c file as to how i try to do it |
| 00:45.59 | trepan | even if someone eventually brings meshes to bzflag, they will still require the specification of interior points (i think) |
| 00:48.13 | trepan | purple_cow: oops, s/would/would you and your blender script ;) |
| 00:50.03 | trepan | oh ya, it might also be nice to have an arbitrary normal teleporter plane, pretty simple to do really, might be interesting to see someone fall into a hole and pop back out from another one going upwards, a la trampoline ;) |
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| 00:50.32 | trepan | except for the cases were it'd be infinite bouncing :( |
| 00:50.43 | bestbuddyever | i was going to say . . . |
| 00:51.07 | trepan | do a run-time check for links with both normals pointing upwards... |
| 00:51.36 | purple_cow | trepan: could still do that with horizontal velocity |
| 00:51.42 | purple_cow | and there would always be horizontal velocity |
| 00:51.50 | trepan | unless you hit a wall |
| 00:51.57 | bestbuddyever | not if he bounces up through the teleporter and down into it |
| 00:52.06 | trepan | but then again, you can always create a map that will trap |
| 00:52.08 | bestbuddyever | and the upward port allows pass-throughs |
| 00:52.14 | trepan | the onus is on the map makers not to be idiots |
| 00:52.23 | purple_cow | trepan: which it ought to be |
| 00:52.40 | purple_cow | i don't see any reason to cripple the code just because map makers could screw up |
| 00:52.47 | trepan | purple_cow: ditto |
| 00:52.57 | bestbuddyever | people would enjoy jumping into vertical teleportals tho |
| 00:53.15 | trepan | portable holes! |
| 00:53.16 | *** topic/#bzflag by bryjen -> http://BZFlag.org/ || http://bzbb.bzflag.org/ || http://stats.bzflag.org/ || http://cia.navi.cx/stats/project/BZFlag || server usage graphs http://bzflag.bz/usage/ || http://bzflag.org/wiki/Logging <-- fill in details and RFC || feature freeze by Sept 5th? |
| 00:53.35 | bestbuddyever | consider doing a check on the tank velocity at the moment it hits the t-porter (not the normal of the tporter itself) |
| 00:53.46 | trepan | 1800? |
| 00:55.12 | learner | trepan: http://www.1800tequila.com/ |
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| 00:57.12 | bryjen | what's for dinner, purple_cow ? |
| 00:57.26 | learner | decks! |
| 00:57.30 | Tupone | decks! |
| 00:57.43 | bryjen | we missed midnight |
| 00:58.50 | purple_cow | pasta...gotta carbo-load |
| 00:58.53 | trepan | ack, ta-kill-ya |
| 00:59.32 | purple_cow | ? |
| 00:59.56 | trepan | sry, for learner |
| 01:00.11 | learner | mm? |
| 01:00.23 | bryjen | we're all sorry for learner ;) |
| 01:00.26 | trepan | heh |
| 01:00.59 | learner | heh, the longer we take to play, the more interesting I'll be... |
| 01:02.13 | purple_cow | lemme get this pasta cooked, then we can play |
| 01:02.27 | *** topic/#bzflag by bryjen -> http://BZFlag.org/ || http://bzbb.bzflag.org/ || http://stats.bzflag.org/ || http://cia.navi.cx/stats/project/BZFlag || server usage graphs http://bzflag.bz/usage/ || http://bzflag.org/wiki/Logging <-- fill in details and RFC || feature freeze by Sept 5th? || decks! RSN |
| 01:17.41 | purple_cow | ok, food's ready but it's not finished building |
| 01:17.46 | purple_cow | i'll make noise when it is |
| 01:17.48 | trepan | to anyone that cares, the noise texture client crash problem is still there |
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| 01:18.14 | trepan | (at least I think so, it would appear I crashed after picking up JM) |
| 01:18.20 | bryjen | i think i just grabbed a jam too |
| 01:18.27 | trepan | crashed too? |
| 01:18.33 | bryjen | yup |
| 01:18.43 | trepan | hehe, crash flag, it's a feature! |
| 01:19.02 | DTRemenak | hm, learner has a trace from that - it's a crash in OpenGLTexture |
| 01:19.08 | DTRemenak | if it's the same one |
| 01:19.23 | trepan | sounds very much like it is |
| 01:19.51 | trepan | i don't mind the nice reproducible probs though ;) |
| 01:20.06 | bryjen | i wonder what it does to Vindoes, as they seem to be looser with the memories |
| 01:20.10 | DTRemenak | yeah :) |
| 01:20.18 | DTRemenak | bryjen: I could not duplicate it on win |
| 01:20.26 | DTRemenak | that's one reason I figured it was intermittent |
| 01:21.15 | DTRemenak | your server full of jamming? |
| 01:21.26 | CIA-4 | BZFlag: 03atupone * 10bzflag/src/bzfs/bzfs.cxx: Service stuff (like idlekicking) on players are done is doStuffOnPlayer() |
| 01:22.58 | DTRemenak | got one! |
| 01:24.21 | bryjen | doStuff hehe |
| 01:24.34 | *** topic/#bzflag by purple_cow -> http://BZFlag.org/ || http://bzbb.bzflag.org/ || http://stats.bzflag.org/ || http://cia.navi.cx/stats/project/BZFlag || server usage graphs http://bzflag.bz/usage/ || http://bzflag.org/wiki/Logging <-- fill in details and RFC || feature freeze by Sept 5th? || decks! right now at navi.cx, 1.11 |
| 01:25.23 | DTRemenak | Invalid read of size 4: OpenGLTexture::bind() (OpenGLTexture.cxx:220) |
| 01:25.58 | amonkey | does anybody know why i cant go to bzflag.hepcat.org? |
| 01:27.19 | learner | ~bzfquery bzflag.hepcat.org |
| 01:27.40 | Tupone | decks is on. decks is on |
| 01:27.49 | trepan | woulda told him: cause it's for hepcats, not hepmonkeys |
| 01:27.58 | learner | compile is compiling. compile is compiling |
| 01:28.02 | JBdiGriz | decks? decks! |
| 01:28.40 | JBdiGriz | must be the CVS build, time to compile |
| 01:29.00 | trepan | darn, just about to do a protocol breaking commit too |
| 01:29.51 | learner | heh |
| 01:30.18 | learner | awn |
| 01:31.10 | trepan | ever see the 'Jackass' way of doing a tequila shot? |
| 01:31.42 | JBdiGriz | seems I need to do a cvs update as well |
| 01:31.43 | trepan | snort the salt, pour lemon juice in your eye, and then drink |
| 01:32.11 | trepan | or some such masochistic behaviour |
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| 02:06.29 | shorty114 | not great... |
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| 02:06.56 | shorty114 | hello bestbuddyever |
| 02:07.11 | bestbuddyever | h'lo |
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| 02:18.30 | *** part/#bzflag Chewie[] (chewie@24.236.188.125.up.mi.chartermi.net) |
| 02:19.25 | *** part/#bzflag Tupone (~Tupone@ppp-82-84-120-254.cust-adsl.tiscali.it) |
| 02:21.05 | bryjen | soo, 4 hours notice got us for players for decks.. |
| 02:21.19 | bryjen | s/for players/four players/ |
| 02:22.48 | orchid | i couldnt build a client |
| 02:23.21 | purple_cow | :( |
| 02:23.39 | trepan | my client's version is off by 1 |
| 02:24.36 | bryjen | guess that's a danger with cvs :( |
| 02:24.41 | trepan | orchid: still having probs? could you './autogen.sh; ./configure; make &> log' and put it up somewhere? |
| 02:25.11 | trepan | oops, log em all, not just make |
| 02:25.26 | bryjen | (./autogen.sh; ./configure; make ) &> log |
| 02:25.55 | trepan | yup ;) |
| 02:29.23 | learner | (./autogen.sh; ./configure; make) 2>&1 | tee log |
| 02:29.23 | bryjen | tee hee hee |
| 02:29.23 | learner | mm.. tea |
| 02:31.58 | bryjen | ~seen Patlabor221 |
| 02:32.00 | ibot | patlabor221 is currently on #opencombat (5h 39m 54s) #bzflag (5h 39m 54s) #tacobeam (5h 39m 54s). Has said a total of 38 messages. Is idling for 4h 21m 21s |
| 02:34.21 | orchid | http://bzgirl.bzflag.org/pub/log.txt |
| 02:36.49 | orchid | oh |
| 02:36.51 | orchid | nm |
| 02:37.01 | bryjen | ls -l src/bzflag/bzflag |
| 02:37.10 | orchid | i'd added xlibmesa-glu-dev since lasst try |
| 02:37.18 | orchid | it built this time |
| 02:37.36 | learner | hehe |
| 02:38.38 | orchid | i must add that to the list of packages one needs to build on debian |
| 02:40.20 | purple_cow | woohoo, video card is here |
| 02:41.27 | orchid | yay, rsync is done |
| 02:41.49 | bryjen | who untied the UPS person? ;) |
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| 02:45.35 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o JBdiGriz] by ChanServ |
| 02:46.16 | JBdiGriz | learner: Are you able to compile the current CVS sources? |
| 02:47.47 | CIA-4 | BZFlag: 03brlcad * 10bzflag/BUGS: |
| 02:47.47 | CIA-4 | BZFlag: tank begins driving backwards on spawn (perhaps only with keyboard, |
| 02:47.47 | CIA-4 | BZFlag: perhaps only with mac); ` key halts the client movement until pressed again |
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| 02:57.02 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o JBdiGriz] by ChanServ |
| 03:00.25 | shorty114 | JBdiGriz : are you on 10.3? |
| 03:00.30 | shorty114 | (OSX) |
| 03:00.31 | JBdiGriz | yep |
| 03:00.36 | shorty114 | then i have nothing to say |
| 03:00.43 | shorty114 | b/c 10.2 is broken... |
| 03:00.45 | shorty114 | :( |
| 03:01.12 | shorty114 | you should be able to compile...too bad learner isn't here |
| 03:01.21 | learner | yeah, damn shame |
| 03:01.28 | shorty114 | oh |
| 03:01.31 | JBdiGriz | He's never around when you need him |
| 03:01.38 | shorty114 | you aren't op... |
| 03:01.39 | Patlabor221 | learner sucks, allways running out |
| 03:01.44 | shorty114 | i usually look for you in op... |
| 03:01.52 | shorty114 | heh |
| 03:02.05 | shorty114 | i got photoshop |
| 03:02.12 | shorty114 | not CS tho :( |
| 03:02.14 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o learner] by ChanServ |
| 03:02.21 | shorty114 | ah learner's here ;) |
| 03:02.22 | learner | oh look, there he is |
| 03:02.28 | Patlabor221 | congrats on your theft |
| 03:02.35 | shorty114 | theft? |
| 03:02.50 | Patlabor221 | did you buy PS? |
| 03:02.50 | *** mode/#bzflag [-o learner] by JBdiGriz |
| 03:02.50 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o learner] by ChanServ |
| 03:02.50 | shorty114 | yes |
| 03:02.50 | learner | heh |
| 03:02.50 | Patlabor221 | ebay? |
| 03:02.55 | shorty114 | no came with machine |
| 03:02.58 | shorty114 | i have a new laptop |
| 03:03.03 | Patlabor221 | ahh PS LE |
| 03:03.05 | Patlabor221 | I'm sorry |
| 03:03.05 | shorty114 | Toshiba portege |
| 03:03.10 | shorty114 | no it's 7 |
| 03:03.20 | Patlabor221 | if it came free, it's not full 7 |
| 03:03.40 | shorty114 | well, it came with my machine b/c my dad didn't need this machine anymore |
| 03:03.45 | shorty114 | PS just happened to be installed |
| 03:03.59 | shorty114 | heh |
| 03:04.04 | Patlabor221 | ahh so your dad still has the license, congrats on your teft |
| 03:04.13 | shorty114 | he gave it to me, not a theft ... |
| 03:04.20 | shorty114 | heh |
| 03:04.29 | Patlabor221 | does he still have it installed on any of his computers? |
| 03:04.31 | JBdiGriz | What's the moon's phase? |
| 03:04.33 | shorty114 | no |
| 03:04.46 | shorty114 | Patlabor221:no |
| 03:04.54 | Patlabor221 | it's nearing full isn't it? |
| 03:05.10 | JBdiGriz | That must be the problem, let me take off this sweater and retry. |
| 03:05.11 | bryjen | there's a KDE applet for that.... |
| 03:05.21 | Patlabor221 | shorty114: read the ULA, the license isn't really transferable once the owner uses it. |
| 03:05.36 | shorty114 | Patlabor221: the liscense belongs to the company |
| 03:05.41 | shorty114 | *license |
| 03:05.45 | Patlabor221 | are you an emploie? |
| 03:05.50 | shorty114 | no |
| 03:06.21 | Patlabor221 | then congrats on your theft :) |
| 03:06.21 | Patlabor221 | Waxing Gibbous |
| 03:06.21 | Patlabor221 | 88.9% of Full |
| 03:06.21 | Patlabor221 | Fri 27 Aug, 2004 |
| 03:06.21 | shorty114 | thanks...:) |
| 03:06.21 | Patlabor221 | not that they would give you any trouble for it :) |
| 03:06.27 | shorty114 | no probably not :D |
| 03:06.28 | Patlabor221 | JBdiGriz: http://www.calculatorcat.com/moon_phases/moon_phases.phtml |
| 03:06.50 | Patlabor221 | do you have any sage, |
| 03:06.57 | Patlabor221 | the compiler likes it when you burn sage. |
| 03:07.21 | JBdiGriz | I have a little basil in the jar by the cd door, that usually does it for gcc. |
| 03:07.49 | Patlabor221 | that was only for 2.x |
| 03:07.54 | Patlabor221 | 3.x want's fire |
| 03:08.05 | JBdiGriz | I thought the windows machines looked far better when you burned a different herb. |
| 03:08.15 | shorty114 | heh |
| 03:08.19 | Patlabor221 | I use pine for windows |
| 03:08.21 | Patlabor221 | BIG fire |
| 03:08.23 | shorty114 | :) |
| 03:08.24 | shorty114 | lol |
| 03:08.37 | Patlabor221 | remember Pine is not elm |
| 03:08.40 | bryjen | burn your spam |
| 03:08.56 | Patlabor221 | grease fires are hard to put out |
| 03:09.20 | bryjen | halon |
| 03:09.21 | JBdiGriz | Filtering the smoke through water makes it a bit easier while programming windows |
| 03:09.48 | shorty114 | out of 100 messages, about 60 spam :( |
| 03:10.10 | shorty114 | well, back to installing PHP5 into Apache2 |
| 03:11.33 | Patlabor221 | get a spam filter |
| 03:11.37 | Patlabor221 | mine works great |
| 03:12.06 | bryjen | Mozillillillilla! |
| 03:12.19 | purple_cow | sweeeeet |
| 03:12.23 | bryjen | yeesh. that needs some dashes |
| 03:12.25 | purple_cow | 3600x1440 is a beautiful resolution |
| 03:12.50 | bryjen | landscape |
| 03:12.51 | shorty114 | although the built one gets almost all of them |
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| 03:18.00 | purple_cow | my framebuffer is almost 16MB =D |
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| 03:18.41 | RPG | hi, is anyone still here that remembers me? |
| 03:20.01 | bestbuddyever | menu |
| 03:20.36 | bestbuddyever | makes the game almost unplayable b/c I can't tell when settings I'm setting |
| 03:20.56 | RPG | anyone having server hosting troubles? |
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| 03:27.18 | bestbuddyever | Bus Error . . . |
| 03:30.17 | RPG | <TimRiker> ~bzfquery bzflag.secretplace.us:5255 |
| 03:30.26 | RPG | that was supposed to do something... |
| 03:30.33 | RPG | bzfquery bzflag.secretplace.us:5255 |
| 03:30.38 | RPG | ok it doesnt |
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| 03:31.22 | Heywood_Floyd | Hello |