| 00:04.09 | Patlabor221 | never understimate the crude kiddies |
| 00:06.26 | lan56 | mmm, tasty words :) |
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| 00:17.11 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o JBdiGriz] by ChanServ |
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| 00:29.49 | Chikorita | ? |
| 00:29.59 | Patlabor221 | ! |
| 00:30.09 | orchid | ^ |
| 00:30.17 | orchid | hello Chikorita |
| 00:30.31 | *** join/#bzflag RC_cola (~45ac2240@rw08.de) |
| 00:31.43 | RC_cola | hello? |
| 00:32.11 | lan56 | hello rc_cola |
| 00:32.12 | RC_cola | ~dict echo |
| 00:32.18 | RC_cola | hi lan |
| 00:32.29 | lan56 | long time no see, at least on IRC :) |
| 00:32.38 | RC_cola | =) |
| 00:32.49 | Patlabor221 | hello |
| 00:33.03 | RC_cola | do u know the irc command to ghost your other nick? |
| 00:33.09 | RC_cola | hi pat |
| 00:33.20 | Patlabor221 | type /msg nickserv ghost USERNAME PASSWORD |
| 00:33.23 | RC_cola | i forgot |
| 00:33.27 | RC_cola | k thnx |
| 00:33.35 | Patlabor221 | sure |
| 00:33.52 | RC_cola | yay |
| 00:33.57 | RC_cola | heehe |
| 00:34.29 | RC_cola | -NickServ- [Chikorita] has been killed |
| 00:34.32 | RC_cola | =P |
| 00:34.35 | RC_cola | x.x |
| 00:34.44 | RC_cola | heehe |
| 00:34.54 | Patlabor221 | heh |
| 00:35.21 | RC_cola | i guess i was just another victim ? |
| 00:35.38 | RC_cola | *** There are 7025 victims and 8319 hiding on 18 servers |
| 00:35.48 | RC_cola | ? |
| 00:36.09 | Patlabor221 | wow |
| 00:36.13 | Patlabor221 | thats a lot |
| 00:36.21 | RC_cola | so how are the bz projects coming along pat? j/w |
| 00:36.39 | Patlabor221 | people do stuff on em it seems |
| 00:36.55 | RC_cola | is Firestarter still in the works? |
| 00:37.12 | RC_cola | an project 2501? |
| 00:37.21 | RC_cola | i think its called? |
| 00:38.10 | RC_cola | o learner is away =P |
| 00:38.57 | Patlabor221 | yes he's on his way out here |
| 00:39.04 | RC_cola | ~seen learner |
| 00:39.05 | ibot | learner is currently on #brlcad (19h 12m 42s) #bzflag (19h 12m 42s). Has said a total of 26 messages. Is idling for 18h 50m 39s |
| 00:39.05 | Patlabor221 | Firestarter is kinda dead |
| 00:39.10 | RC_cola | o i c |
| 00:39.16 | Patlabor221 | dono how frank is doing on p2501 |
| 00:39.56 | lan56 | frank's project is still in development? |
| 00:40.30 | Patlabor221 | only the frank knows |
| 00:40.37 | Patlabor221 | he pops in every so often |
| 00:40.43 | Patlabor221 | haven't seen any new dev in over a year I think |
| 00:40.49 | lan56 | I oughta ask him then |
| 00:40.55 | Patlabor221 | you see him? |
| 00:41.06 | lan56 | I've seen him before, but never have I asked |
| 00:42.23 | RC_cola | woh |
| 00:42.28 | Patlabor221 | umm thanks ibot |
| 00:42.28 | RC_cola | lol |
| 00:42.33 | Patlabor221 | he has turrets |
| 00:42.36 | Patlabor221 | he can't help it |
| 00:42.43 | RC_cola | lol i see that |
| 00:43.11 | RC_cola | so ibot's a "he" now? |
| 00:43.14 | RC_cola | ;) |
| 00:43.36 | RC_cola | i missed ibot ;) |
| 00:43.38 | Patlabor221 | ibot gender |
| 00:43.42 | ibot | I'm sexless |
| 00:43.45 | RC_cola | lol |
| 00:43.47 | Patlabor221 | guu gender |
| 00:43.48 | guu | Im all woman baby |
| 00:43.51 | Patlabor221 | guu rocks |
| 00:43.52 | guu | yes I do |
| 00:43.52 | lan56 | heh |
| 00:44.06 | Patlabor221 | she knows a lot more the ibot |
| 00:44.08 | lan56 | next time use guu for definitions, much faster :) |
| 00:44.08 | Patlabor221 | guu playerlist |
| 00:44.12 | guu | Patlabor221: 177.natu || 3-legged gerbil || Ace || admin || Anastasia Beaverhausen || Attilla || b1 || Barcode || ben || BL || bmbmik || cainman || Cop Tank || cory || dac122 || Daddygeek || davejay || DAZZLE || DeMolay || Dominator || Dream Theater || DScout || EVA || fark || Fire_T || gess || guppy || Hellfried || im hiden || Jim Carrey || jin arashi || Killer Nich || kman || (2 more messages) |
| 00:44.17 | lan56 | !guu dict echo |
| 00:44.17 | RC_cola | ooH |
| 00:44.24 | lan56 | !dict echo |
| 00:44.26 | guu | lan56: wn, gazetteer, foldoc, web1913, jargon, and vera responded: vera: ECHO European Community Host Organisation (org., Europe); jargon: echo [FidoNet] n. A {topic group} on {FidoNet}'s echomail system. Compare {newsgroup}; web1913: Echo \Ech"o\, v. i. To give an echo; to resound; to be sounded back; as, the hall echoed with acclamations. ``Echoing (10 more messages) |
| 00:44.32 | lan56 | there we go :) |
| 00:44.52 | RC_cola | faster too |
| 00:44.58 | Patlabor221 | well depends |
| 00:45.00 | lan56 | much faster |
| 00:45.03 | RC_cola | ibots jus gettin alil old , an slo lol |
| 00:45.09 | lan56 | he sure is :) |
| 00:45.11 | Patlabor221 | her connection is a little slower on the upstream then ibot |
| 00:45.12 | RC_cola | poor bot |
| 00:45.18 | RC_cola | i c |
| 00:45.40 | orchid | dict wn echo |
| 00:45.50 | orchid | !dict wn echo |
| 00:45.52 | guu | orchid: wn: echo n 1: the persistence of a sound after its source has stopped [syn: {reverberation}, {sound reflection}, {replication}] 2: (Greek mythology) a nymph who was spurned by Narcissus and pined away until only her voice remained 3: a reply that repeats what has just been said v 1: to say again or imitate; "followers echoing the cries of their leaders" [syn: (1 more message) |
| 00:45.55 | RC_cola | hi bzg =) |
| 00:46.03 | orchid | hey RC_cola |
| 00:46.22 | RC_cola | mythology =) i used to luv readin those old stories |
| 00:46.27 | orchid | good to see you playing again, if only occasionaly |
| 00:46.30 | RC_cola | greek an roman |
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| 00:46.54 | RC_cola | good to c u too bzg =) |
| 00:48.02 | RC_cola | can i say sumting alil off topic here? |
| 00:48.11 | Patlabor221 | sure |
| 00:48.20 | lan56 | I do it all the time |
| 00:48.23 | lan56 | :) |
| 00:48.35 | RC_cola | i red in roman mythology (i think) that ares has a sister |
| 00:49.19 | RC_cola | thats alot like her brother ... shes my mythological role model , heh |
| 00:49.46 | orchid | Aphrodite? |
| 00:49.55 | RC_cola | oops , ares iz greek , srry |
| 00:49.59 | RC_cola | i meant Mars |
| 00:50.04 | orchid | heh |
| 00:50.29 | RC_cola | aphordite iz da goddess of lov i think |
| 00:51.09 | orchid | yeah, i thought she was Ares's sister though |
| 00:51.18 | RC_cola | in roman mythology she known as venus |
| 00:51.32 | RC_cola | im not sure ... |
| 00:51.33 | bryjen | the gods were quite inter-related |
| 00:51.36 | RC_cola | lol ya |
| 00:51.45 | RC_cola | =P |
| 00:52.17 | CIA-4 | opencombat: 03jeffm2501 * 10opencombat/README: update with name |
| 00:54.12 | RC_cola | "On the battlefield [ares] was accompanied by his sister, Eris (which means Discord)" |
| 00:54.24 | RC_cola | eris , dats her name =) |
| 00:55.13 | amathis | there is a problem.. |
| 00:55.29 | amathis | I do not have write access to /cvsroot/db |
| 00:55.46 | RC_cola | mythlogy reads like a bad soap opera sumtime , lol |
| 00:56.07 | CIA-4 | opencombat: 03jeffm2501 * 10opencombat/AUTHORS: add the people who helped get this far. |
| 00:59.23 | CIA-4 | opencombat: 03jeffm2501 * 10opencombat/ (9 files): remove OS specific readmes, merge info into new meta readme HTLM later |
| 01:00.32 | RC_cola | bye peeps bbl |
| 01:00.36 | lan56 | cya |
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| 01:03.57 | CIA-4 | opencombat: 03jeffm2501 * 10opencombat/runstest.bat: you don't belong in CVS your for my lame testing |
| 01:04.07 | orchid | cya RC_cola |
| 01:04.14 | menotume | bye RC |
| 01:04.21 | menotume | nhi all :) |
| 01:04.37 | orchid | hey nmeotume :) |
| 01:04.43 | menotume | nlol |
| 01:04.58 | menotume | nmaking fun of my 'n' ? |
| 01:05.04 | orchid | :) |
| 01:07.09 | CIA-4 | BZFlag: 03lan56 * 10bzflag/Dev-C++/ (bzadmin.dev bzflag.dev bzfs.dev): strip executable of symbol table, making the outputed executables nearly 50% smaller than before and in the end making use of "strip" executable can be considered useless |
| 01:07.40 | *** join/#bzflag amathis (~amathis@cpe-024-165-179-171.midsouth.rr.com) |
| 01:08.13 | CIA-4 | opencombat: 03jeffm2501 * 10opencombat/misc/listserver/ (Makefile.am ocls.php): add placeholder for the list server php |
| 01:13.45 | CIA-4 | opencombat: 03jeffm2501 * 10opencombat/misc/ (bzflsLite.php bzlist.php): remove list servery stuffs |
| 01:21.46 | *** join/#bzflag Noodleman_ (~tuckerm@bc11448.bendcable.com) |
| 01:33.28 | CIA-4 | BZFlag: 03lan56 * 10bzflag/Dev-C++/ (bzadmin.dev bzflag.dev bzfs.dev): |
| 01:33.28 | CIA-4 | BZFlag: bonehead g++ 3.4.1 setup forgot to include -lstdc++ in linking (the list of |
| 01:33.28 | CIA-4 | BZFlag: dev-c++ continues), and turn on warnings (the correct cmd line options are |
| 01:33.28 | CIA-4 | BZFlag: passed, but then -w is passed, which tells g++ to not show warnings! :) |
| 01:33.46 | lan56 | make that "(the list of dev-c++ *bugs* continues)" :) |
| 01:38.25 | CIA-4 | BZFlag: 03lan56 * 10bzflag/README.DEVC++: as of today, the project files tell the linker to strip all tables from the outputed executables, so note that running "strip" is needless |
| 01:44.44 | CIA-4 | BZFlag: 03lan56 * 10bzflag/README.DEVC++: talk about Linux builds as well, however, Linux builds with Dev-C++ may not be likely, the last release for Linux was source, and that was 3 years ago, and even then it barely was usable, but add it just in case |
| 01:45.18 | lan56 | heh, and I was talking about Linux Dev-c++ builds in the last part there, not bzflag just in case it is confusing :) |
| 01:52.10 | CIA-4 | BZFlag: 03lan56 * 10bzflag/Dev-C++/ (bzadmin.dev bzflag.dev bzfs.dev): whoops, only need to add "-lstdc++" to the linker, not the compiler |
| 02:10.08 | *** join/#bzflag patlabor221 (~JeffM@adsl-64-173-106-3.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net) |
| 02:14.36 | CIA-4 | BZFlag: 03trepan * 10bzflag/ (8 files in 4 dirs): better tri-wall culling, and some notes |
| 02:32.09 | CIA-4 | BZFlag: 03lan56 * 10bzflag/src/bzflag/bzflag.cxx: an SDL build on MinGW32 still needs myMain() and WinMain(), otherwise it spits out an undefined reference for main() |
| 02:33.27 | patlabor221 | make it use sdlMain :) |
| 02:33.49 | lan56 | is that stated in bzflag? perhaps I didn't notice? |
| 02:33.58 | lan56 | *bzflag.cxx |
| 02:34.25 | patlabor221 | no no |
| 02:34.28 | patlabor221 | you did fine |
| 02:34.49 | lan56 | no tell me, should it use a function called sdlMain()? |
| 02:35.34 | patlabor221 | then it would work the same for windows and linux |
| 02:35.37 | patlabor221 | one common main |
| 02:35.41 | patlabor221 | no more winmain |
| 02:35.45 | patlabor221 | but it's ok |
| 02:35.56 | patlabor221 | the rest isn't set up to use it |
| 02:36.22 | lan56 | no, how about I then replace it with an #ifdef HAVE_SDL and use sdlMain(), that way no worrying |
| 02:36.45 | patlabor221 | but then the dirs won't be set |
| 02:36.48 | patlabor221 | don't do it |
| 02:36.55 | lan56 | sure thing, won't do it |
| 02:36.56 | patlabor221 | some of the code in winmain NEEDS to be called |
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| 03:03.57 | CIA-4 | opencombat: 03pyrobunny101 * 10opencombat/misc/listserver/ocls.php: Added the OpenCombat list server functions, including mysql/sqlite support |
| 03:04.29 | lan56 | sorry, just testing out /action :) |
| 03:04.44 | lan56 | didn't know it'd do that |
| 03:04.48 | lan56 | thought only /me does that |
| 03:05.32 | amathis | finally.. |
| 03:05.43 | amathis | after spending the evening getting cvs working.. |
| 03:05.58 | brlcad | patlabor221: that's why I asked :0 |
| 03:06.13 | amathis | :-0 |
| 03:06.15 | patlabor221 | yeah it's all good |
| 03:06.15 | amathis | :-P |
| 03:06.22 | brlcad | sweet |
| 03:06.29 | Nidhoggr | I'm glad you stuck it out, patlabor221 |
| 03:06.55 | patlabor221 | well what other choice did I have? |
| 03:07.03 | Nidhoggr | true. :) |
| 03:07.43 | patlabor221 | brlcad, you will notice a new project in your my SF page that you blelong to |
| 03:08.28 | patlabor221 | and that you have some management capabilitys on |
| 03:08.49 | brlcad | =) |
| 03:09.14 | amathis | why only nt/2000 and not XP ? |
| 03:09.33 | patlabor221 | cus they don't have that as an option |
| 03:09.49 | amathis | oh |
| 03:09.50 | amathis | ok |
| 03:09.58 | amathis | why not go platform independant |
| 03:10.04 | patlabor221 | cus it's not |
| 03:10.11 | amathis | tehre is *nix, windows and mac.. |
| 03:10.18 | amathis | I can build Bsd packages. |
| 03:10.19 | patlabor221 | it dosn't run on many OSs |
| 03:10.23 | patlabor221 | BeOS |
| 03:10.24 | patlabor221 | amiga |
| 03:10.25 | amathis | oh |
| 03:10.26 | patlabor221 | Comodor |
| 03:10.29 | patlabor221 | ect...... |
| 03:10.40 | amathis | it should be able to compile on those ? |
| 03:10.54 | patlabor221 | brlcad, is BZ a cocoa app? |
| 03:11.03 | patlabor221 | no probalby not |
| 03:11.08 | patlabor221 | jus like BZ |
| 03:11.17 | patlabor221 | it's got no platform for those |
| 03:11.19 | patlabor221 | just 3 |
| 03:11.29 | patlabor221 | win, x windows, and mac |
| 03:11.45 | brlcad | patlabor it's actually a mix of cocoa/carbon and core foundation |
| 03:12.17 | patlabor221 | think it's ok to say cocoa in the trove info? |
| 03:12.38 | brlcad | hrm |
| 03:13.00 | brlcad | I wouldn't actually, especially moving to SDL |
| 03:13.11 | brlcad | it's more carbon than cocoa |
| 03:13.19 | brlcad | though most won't know the distinction |
| 03:13.50 | patlabor221 | k |
| 03:14.06 | patlabor221 | well I just put it as oSX |
| 03:14.38 | patlabor221 | the only thing for environ is cocoa tho |
| 03:15.09 | amathis | patlabor221, what is your full name.. I am doing copyright on my file.. |
| 03:15.25 | patlabor221 | it's all on my sf |
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| 03:23.57 | patlabor221 | gonna do sbo type stuff in it now? |
| 03:25.49 | CIA-4 | opencombat: 03pyrobunny101 * 10opencombat/misc/listserver/inc/config.inc: Adding main config file for any database access. This file is crucial for organization, and effeciency. |
| 03:26.32 | amathis | patlabor221, how did you guess? |
| 03:26.36 | amathis | :) |
| 03:27.04 | patlabor221 | cool |
| 03:28.40 | amathis | patlabor221, do you want sqlite support or just mysql.. I dont see the need for sqlite.. |
| 03:29.39 | *** join/#bzflag shorty114 (~shorty114@c-24-17-75-228.client.comcast.net) |
| 03:29.55 | shorty114 | about bzedit |
| 03:30.05 | shorty114 | on the SF.net dl page |
| 03:30.06 | patlabor221 | both would be nice |
| 03:30.13 | amathis | patlabor221, erg.. ok .. |
| 03:30.14 | shorty114 | i pick BZedit source for linux, right? |
| 03:30.15 | patlabor221 | it's ok to leave it |
| 03:30.20 | amathis | shorty114, no |
| 03:30.26 | patlabor221 | shorty114, what do you want to do? |
| 03:30.35 | shorty114 | patlabor: compile bzedit for linux |
| 03:30.42 | patlabor221 | get it from CVS |
| 03:30.42 | shorty114 | is it feasible? |
| 03:30.50 | patlabor221 | you can try |
| 03:30.56 | shorty114 | ok |
| 03:31.04 | shorty114 | so i should get the dev version? |
| 03:31.05 | shorty114 | k |
| 03:31.06 | shorty114 | thx |
| 03:31.08 | patlabor221 | know much about old Gtk libs? |
| 03:31.17 | shorty114 | GIMP Took Kits right? |
| 03:31.19 | shorty114 | no not much |
| 03:31.23 | patlabor221 | gnome |
| 03:31.30 | shorty114 | no |
| 03:31.32 | shorty114 | not much |
| 03:31.37 | patlabor221 | best of luck then |
| 03:31.49 | shorty114 | what else is #bzflag for ;) |
| 03:31.55 | patlabor221 | noone else has done it |
| 03:32.13 | shorty114 | how do i get bzedit for linux then? |
| 03:32.26 | patlabor221 | the windows one runs under wine |
| 03:32.29 | CIA-4 | opencombat: 03pyrobunny101 * 10opencombat/misc/listserver/ocls.php: Changed some of the way the list server works... |
| 03:32.44 | patlabor221 | or get ready for some C++ learning :) |
| 03:32.51 | shorty114 | ... |
| 03:32.59 | amathis | shorty114, you are welcome to write a linux version ^_^ |
| 03:33.00 | shorty114 | probably will have to anyway |
| 03:33.04 | patlabor221 | that too |
| 03:33.08 | shorty114 | amathis: uhh.... |
| 03:33.14 | patlabor221 | or try that python somone posted they had made |
| 03:33.26 | shorty114 | i'll try it under WINE |
| 03:33.47 | shorty114 | guess i have to learn fast ;) |
| 03:34.14 | patlabor221 | wine name_of_your_exe.exe |
| 03:34.50 | shorty114 | k |
| 03:38.44 | shorty114 | well, wine it is. |
| 03:40.57 | SportChick | brlcad: ping-a-ling |
| 03:46.10 | CIA-4 | opencombat: 03pyrobunny101 * 10opencombat/misc/listserver/ (config.inc dbscheme.txt): edited config.inc, made a future mysql database structure (food for thought.) |
| 03:46.53 | patlabor221 | lookit you go boyo |
| 03:46.58 | amathis | well.. |
| 03:47.13 | amathis | I have been wanting to work on this for a while.. I am going on built up steam.. |
| 03:48.52 | patlabor221 | cool |
| 03:49.04 | patlabor221 | gives ya good cvs practice too :) |
| 03:49.35 | amathis | patlabor221, where is the mysql db located |
| 03:49.46 | patlabor221 | dono yet |
| 03:49.53 | patlabor221 | put it in a variable in the config |
| 03:50.13 | amathis | patlabor221, that is pointless.. |
| 03:50.22 | amathis | patlabor221, the config _is_ the variable. :) |
| 03:50.32 | patlabor221 | then just make it something |
| 03:50.35 | amathis | patlabor221, so, when you get a db set up, edit the config.inc. |
| 03:50.42 | patlabor221 | k |
| 03:50.47 | amathis | patlabor221, I wanted to know f there was already one out thee |
| 03:50.50 | amathis | *there |
| 03:50.51 | patlabor221 | there is |
| 03:50.55 | patlabor221 | dono where it s now |
| 03:51.05 | patlabor221 | but the one in source dosn't need that info |
| 03:51.11 | amathis | k |
| 03:51.54 | amathis | patlabor221, how do you like this idea.. |
| 03:52.04 | amathis | patlabor221, say there is someone who registers their server.. |
| 03:52.04 | patlabor221 | does it have pie? |
| 03:52.11 | amathis | no. |
| 03:52.12 | amathis | :) |
| 03:52.24 | patlabor221 | no pie= idea sucks |
| 03:52.26 | patlabor221 | :) |
| 03:52.33 | JBdiGriz | ~pi |
| 03:52.34 | ibot | it has been said that pi is ... |
| 03:52.57 | lan56 | well, what is it? |
| 03:52.57 | amathis | and when they register their server, it gives them a link to something like this.... http://stats.opencombat.net/?server=bzflag.ducati.org |
| 03:53.02 | bryjen | unspeakable |
| 03:53.18 | lan56 | 3.141529... |
| 03:53.20 | patlabor221 | so they could check it |
| 03:53.26 | patlabor221 | that's be kinda cool |
| 03:53.26 | amathis | and, it allows them to post on their website stats of _just_ their server |
| 03:53.41 | patlabor221 | good idea |
| 03:53.55 | amathis | bzflag does have that, cept' for the application (that will be downloaded on sf.net) that will go on their site to show the info |
| 03:54.24 | amathis | so, instead of going to s.b.o to get stats on ducati.. |
| 03:54.28 | amathis | I can go to ducati.com |
| 03:54.31 | amathis | or whatever.. |
| 03:54.44 | patlabor221 | yeah |
| 03:54.55 | amathis | that would be easy.. |
| 03:55.02 | patlabor221 | give them a thing to read the RSS that'd be cool |
| 03:55.11 | patlabor221 | give it a whirl |
| 03:55.45 | patlabor221 | coo |
| 03:55.53 | amathis | I could make a plugin for bzflag and opencombat to show that rss feed of server stats |
| 03:56.03 | amathis | or.. use supyies rss.. |
| 03:56.22 | patlabor221 | custom plugin could probably show more info |
| 03:56.29 | patlabor221 | like average playes |
| 03:56.31 | patlabor221 | and game type |
| 03:56.36 | patlabor221 | that would be rather cool |
| 03:56.37 | amathis | yup |
| 03:58.28 | amathis | hmm |
| 03:58.34 | amathis | I have a splendid idea :-P |
| 03:59.44 | patlabor221 | mal's going to the special hell :) |
| 04:02.06 | bryjen | who wha? |
| 04:02.27 | patlabor221 | malcomb |
| 04:02.32 | patlabor221 | special hell |
| 04:02.51 | patlabor221 | reserved for child molsters and people who talk in the theaters |
| 04:05.11 | lan56 | that would've been funny if you spelled "molsters" "monsters" |
| 04:05.13 | lan56 | :) |
| 04:11.38 | CIA-4 | opencombat: 03pyrobunny101 * 10opencombat/misc/listserver/oclist.php: |
| 04:11.39 | CIA-4 | opencombat: This little jewel will allow the user to type in a url such as... http://opencombat.net/oclist.php?server=oc.foo.com. |
| 04:11.39 | CIA-4 | opencombat: It will then display the server stats.... if the user just goes to |
| 04:11.39 | CIA-4 | opencombat: http://opencombat.net/oclist.php, it will then echo a link pointing to the |
| 04:11.39 | CIA-4 | opencombat: http://opencombat.net/oclist.php?server=, while there is still servers left in |
| 04:11.40 | CIA-4 | opencombat: the db.. therefore, this file will work both ways.. as a server browser, and a |
| 04:11.42 | CIA-4 | opencombat: stats generator.. I just need to add in a rss feed to make it syndicatable. |
| 04:12.10 | amathis | eww.. sorry for it being so long.. |
| 04:13.21 | patlabor221 | commits don't need to be huge |
| 04:13.26 | patlabor221 | you can put docs in a readme |
| 04:13.32 | patlabor221 | or even doctracker |
| 04:14.02 | patlabor221 | or if it's a bunch of files, do a message on each |
| 04:14.11 | patlabor221 | in multiple commits |
| 04:14.21 | CIA-4 | opencombat: 03pyrobunny101 * 10opencombat/misc/listserver/oclist.php: A small addition. |
| 04:14.23 | SportChick | evilbob: ping ping a ling |
| 04:16.35 | amathis | patlabor221, should I parse it to xml.. or what do you think would be best for syndication? |
| 04:17.37 | patlabor221 | whotywhatisiccaton? |
| 04:18.02 | evilbob | ackalackadingong |
| 04:18.12 | evilbob | what's crackalackin sport? |
| 04:18.28 | SportChick | come back and play |
| 04:18.31 | SportChick | I'm on momentarily |
| 04:18.33 | amathis | patlabor221, well, I take the rss feed, and I gotta do something with it.. should I make it parse into xml markup or what? |
| 04:18.33 | patlabor221 | I know nothing about xml, rss feeds, or sindication |
| 04:18.40 | evilbob | heehee |
| 04:18.40 | patlabor221 | i dono |
| 04:18.47 | evilbob | well, i know what part of my problem is lately |
| 04:18.50 | patlabor221 | what are you suposed to do with it? |
| 04:18.52 | amathis | patlabor221, it is what b2, slashdotetc dos :) |
| 04:19.00 | patlabor221 | okay |
| 04:19.01 | amathis | *slashdot etc |
| 04:19.02 | evilbob | i could well be maxing out my dsl |
| 04:19.02 | patlabor221 | sounds good |
| 04:19.30 | evilbob | biab |
| 04:20.01 | amathis | patlabor221, do you know anything about porting rss through C++? |
| 04:20.15 | patlabor221 | a nope |
| 04:20.19 | amathis | oh.. :/ |
| 04:20.24 | amathis | if that where the case.. |
| 04:20.31 | patlabor221 | client needs rss? |
| 04:20.40 | amathis | then we could hav up to the time it takes to load the site stats :-P |
| 04:20.47 | amathis | no |
| 04:20.49 | amathis | the servers |
| 04:21.00 | amathis | it would be like whenever you post on oc.net. |
| 04:21.06 | amathis | it is shown on guu. |
| 04:21.15 | patlabor221 | it needs its own rss? |
| 04:21.18 | amathis | think of if we put a rss feed in the server |
| 04:21.24 | patlabor221 | it has URL stuff |
| 04:21.25 | patlabor221 | so it can post |
| 04:21.36 | amathis | then it could give stats directly to the stats page |
| 04:21.41 | patlabor221 | put a webserver IN the game server? |
| 04:21.47 | amathis | patlabor221, no :) |
| 04:21.55 | amathis | patlabor221, lemme start over. |
| 04:22.18 | amathis | patlabor221, when a person posts on his/her blog.. it makes an rss feed so taht guu can pick up on posts.. |
| 04:22.33 | patlabor221 | yeah |
| 04:22.35 | amathis | what if there was an rss feed in the server putting out stats. |
| 04:22.40 | amathis | in the gameserver that is.. |
| 04:22.46 | patlabor221 | list server can do that same feed |
| 04:22.58 | amathis | patlabor221, but doesnt it go through database? |
| 04:23.01 | patlabor221 | if it's in the game server |
| 04:23.09 | patlabor221 | port 80 has to be open dosn't it? |
| 04:23.20 | amathis | maybe not.. |
| 04:23.30 | patlabor221 | list server does what ever it wants to do |
| 04:23.35 | amathis | oik |
| 04:23.41 | amathis | nvm that idea then |
| 04:24.01 | patlabor221 | the list server is a great place for it tho |
| 04:24.05 | patlabor221 | allways has 80 |
| 04:24.09 | amathis | yup |
| 04:24.09 | patlabor221 | and is php ;) |
| 04:24.36 | amathis | ahh |
| 04:24.38 | amathis | I forgot something! |
| 04:27.20 | CIA-4 | opencombat: 03pyrobunny101 * 10opencombat/misc/listserver/dbscheme.txt: Forgot server db layout.. (barebones) |
| 04:31.36 | MeBigFatGuy | anyone try building bzflag with this: --> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=272BE09D-40BB-49FD-9CB0-4BFA122FA91B&displaylang=en |
| 04:32.08 | patlabor221 | dosn't have nmake |
| 04:32.14 | patlabor221 | no build system |
| 04:32.17 | patlabor221 | no dsp |
| 04:35.06 | brlcad | crs won't be making it |
| 04:35.23 | amathis | hullos br |
| 04:35.25 | amathis | hullos brlcad |
| 04:35.59 | MeBigFatGuy | ah |
| 04:36.01 | MeBigFatGuy | thats silly |
| 04:39.09 | patlabor221 | I do wonder if somone is gonna make an IDE for it |
| 04:39.59 | bryjen | probly some "free windows" knut |
| 04:40.18 | patlabor221 | was't that guy here today? |
| 04:42.28 | bryjen | yeah. so it'll be a while |
| 04:44.02 | lan56 | that weather suggestion sounds pretty neat, do you think tim riker would allow such a thing? |
| 04:44.27 | patlabor221 | 1.8 had it |
| 04:44.37 | lan56 | then how come it never got implemented? |
| 04:44.42 | lan56 | sounds so cool |
| 04:44.46 | amathis | like rain? |
| 04:44.48 | amathis | and snow.. |
| 04:44.54 | lan56 | sure |
| 04:44.56 | patlabor221 | ohh you all are too new |
| 04:45.04 | patlabor221 | 1.8 didn't really ever release |
| 04:45.07 | patlabor221 | it was skiped |
| 04:45.10 | lan56 | why? |
| 04:45.21 | lan56 | I've played since 1.7g2 and that's it |
| 04:45.23 | patlabor221 | crs did a big ol rewire one it |
| 04:45.23 | amathis | but that was because I did not know 1.10.0 was out :-P |
| 04:45.32 | amathis | it was _just_ out |
| 04:45.35 | patlabor221 | noone liked it |
| 04:45.40 | patlabor221 | the code was too odd |
| 04:45.46 | lan56 | nobody liked weather? |
| 04:45.47 | patlabor221 | well too difrent |
| 04:45.56 | amathis | what about oil slick spots.. |
| 04:46.07 | lan56 | and fast sports cars? :) |
| 04:46.13 | amathis | lan56, yup :-P |
| 04:46.14 | patlabor221 | it had weather, but didn't have other stuff like, ohh... radar |
| 04:46.24 | lan56 | and the babe in the front passenger seat |
| 04:46.31 | amathis | lan56, nope. |
| 04:46.35 | lan56 | oh :( |
| 04:46.41 | patlabor221 | get the code check it out |
| 04:46.46 | patlabor221 | it's in a tag |
| 04:46.49 | amathis | lan56, well.. to be PC sure. |
| 04:46.55 | lan56 | wich tag? |
| 04:47.03 | patlabor221 | the one that says 1.8 :) |
| 04:47.09 | lan56 | oh :) |
| 04:47.16 | patlabor221 | read, learn, go :) |
| 04:47.20 | patlabor221 | grow not go :) |
| 04:47.23 | amathis | for 1.10.6 |
| 04:47.40 | amathis | bbl |
| 04:48.10 | lan56 | was the weather code in playing.cxx? |
| 04:48.20 | patlabor221 | dono |
| 04:48.23 | patlabor221 | go look |
| 04:48.37 | lan56 | that could take days to look through all those files! :) |
| 04:48.44 | patlabor221 | search |
| 04:48.53 | patlabor221 | use the power given you |
| 04:48.59 | lan56 | well, do you know any keywords or variable names at least? |
| 04:49.15 | patlabor221 | probably particle |
| 04:49.21 | patlabor221 | and system |
| 04:49.23 | bryjen | careful, one-eight might eat your brain ;) |
| 04:49.24 | lan56 | hmm, let me search that then |
| 04:51.07 | patlabor221 | thats not the origonal one |
| 04:51.20 | amathis | that is what it says.. |
| 04:51.29 | patlabor221 | it's just the first one on SF |
| 04:51.33 | patlabor221 | not the first one |
| 04:51.35 | amathis | oh |
| 04:51.39 | amathis | it said .orig |
| 04:51.42 | amathis | so I assumed. |
| 04:51.47 | patlabor221 | baflag did not start out opensource |
| 04:51.58 | amathis | woah |
| 04:52.25 | shorty114 | cya |
| 04:52.43 | patlabor221 | techincaly i started working on BZ before even tim |
| 04:52.53 | patlabor221 | tho he has done a LOT more changes then I |
| 04:53.57 | amathis | this is odd. |
| 04:54.05 | amathis | I compiled with no errors. |
| 04:54.09 | amathis | .and there is no src/bzflag/bzflag |
| 04:54.24 | patlabor221 | well why would it not compile? |
| 04:54.37 | amathis | I dunno.. |
| 04:54.42 | amathis | but ther is no executible |
| 04:54.45 | patlabor221 | it's the same code |
| 04:54.47 | bryjen | is that where is went in the 1999 version? |
| 04:54.54 | patlabor221 | it's probably in targets |
| 04:55.32 | lan56 | was tim riker thinking of putting the weather code or any other neat stuff from that branch into the current one? |
| 04:55.57 | patlabor221 | i don't think he'd mind |
| 04:56.10 | patlabor221 | tho today he said he'd rather see people work on karma |
| 04:56.17 | lan56 | what language is it in? |
| 04:56.19 | amathis | ./bzfrelay? |
| 04:56.22 | patlabor221 | huh? |
| 04:56.26 | patlabor221 | c++ |
| 04:56.31 | patlabor221 | just like it is now |
| 04:56.36 | patlabor221 | it wasn't a redo |
| 04:56.38 | patlabor221 | just a rip |
| 04:56.44 | lan56 | hmm, I was told karma is in php |
| 04:56.50 | patlabor221 | part of it is |
| 04:56.53 | patlabor221 | the server part |
| 04:57.01 | patlabor221 | the rest is client and game server |
| 04:57.04 | amathis | lan56, mhm.. I am going to work a lot on that part. |
| 04:57.15 | lan56 | oh, well then you can take it |
| 04:57.15 | patlabor221 | amathis, that's an old bzflag proxy |
| 04:57.18 | patlabor221 | no longer works |
| 04:57.23 | patlabor221 | I won't do karma |
| 04:57.26 | amathis | well, I cannot find a executible |
| 04:57.29 | patlabor221 | I think it's a stupid idea |
| 04:57.49 | amathis | lan56, go ahead and do the php part :-P |
| 04:57.54 | lan56 | I don't know php |
| 04:57.59 | patlabor221 | amathis this was before there was a configure and automake |
| 04:58.03 | patlabor221 | you sure it built |
| 04:58.06 | patlabor221 | php is easy |
| 04:58.09 | patlabor221 | it's like C++ |
| 04:58.24 | amathis | php is like C++ mixed with perl |
| 04:58.32 | amathis | with a dash of python? |
| 04:58.37 | amathis | :-P |
| 04:58.44 | lan56 | well, is karma stationed in /db/ folder of cvs? |
| 04:58.50 | amathis | lan56, no |
| 04:59.01 | amathis | lan56, I dont think there are any karma php files |
| 04:59.09 | lan56 | how about C++ |
| 04:59.13 | *** join/#bzflag Patlabor2221 (~JeffM@adsl-64-173-106-3.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net) |
| 04:59.35 | patlabor221 | part of karma is in the list server yes |
| 04:59.36 | amathis | lan56, but if you wanna look at php, look at /db/bzlist.php and /db/bzlrs,php |
| 04:59.42 | amathis | ah.. |
| 04:59.47 | lan56 | I know what php looks like :) |
| 05:00.00 | amathis | in bzfls.php there _is_ the beginings of karma system. |
| 05:00.05 | amathis | I just have to edit it a bunch.. |
| 05:00.26 | amathis | and get rid of the .py and .pl files.. |
| 05:00.28 | lan56 | well, where is the c++ part? that would be of more interest |
| 05:00.32 | amathis | integrate it as php |
| 05:00.33 | *** join/#bzflag patlabor2211 (~JeffM@adsl-64-173-106-3.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net) |
| 05:00.40 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o Patlabor221] by ChanServ |
| 05:01.17 | bryjen | the c parts will be in the client once someone writes them |
| 05:01.30 | Patlabor221 | and the game server |
| 05:01.32 | amathis | nudge nudge wink wink |
| 05:04.22 | Patlabor221 | suposedly there is a wiki page on how he wants it done, but none could ever figure out what it means |
| 05:04.32 | amathis | haha |
| 05:05.00 | lan56 | for some reason, I have a feeling this karma system is going to turn out to be a bust |
| 05:05.10 | Patlabor221 | it better not |
| 05:05.18 | Patlabor221 | it's been touted for over a year |
| 05:05.22 | MeBigFatGuy | heh |
| 05:05.24 | Patlabor221 | and 1.12 can't ship sans it |
| 05:05.30 | Patlabor221 | brlcad: see ya tomorow |
| 05:05.33 | Patlabor221 | like really |
| 05:05.39 | MeBigFatGuy | have fun there burly |
| 05:05.50 | Patlabor221 | it's suposed to be holy grail of bz |
| 05:05.53 | Patlabor221 | ends all cheating |
| 05:05.57 | Patlabor221 | all performance issues |
| 05:05.57 | brlcad | yep yep, and thx mac |
| 05:05.59 | lan56 | then how come it's taking so darn long to make? |
| 05:06.01 | Patlabor221 | makes the game perfect |
| 05:06.01 | amathis | bull... |
| 05:06.13 | Patlabor221 | dono ask the dev |
| 05:06.18 | lan56 | timriker? |
| 05:06.24 | Patlabor221 | yup |
| 05:06.24 | MeBigFatGuy | that be he |
| 05:06.35 | Patlabor221 | but really your asking about an issue much older then you |
| 05:06.46 | lan56 | that's how you learn |
| 05:07.01 | Patlabor221 | ever step in the middle of a feud and get shot? |
| 05:07.08 | lan56 | in bzflag? |
| 05:07.14 | Patlabor221 | anywhere |
| 05:07.25 | amathis | not physically.. but verbally :) |
| 05:07.27 | lan56 | well, in bzflag yes literally, in life never got shot by guns at least |
| 05:07.42 | lan56 | oh, verbally no, I don't often times interrupt |
| 05:07.47 | lan56 | at least in real life |
| 05:07.58 | lan56 | I try all over actually |
| 05:08.01 | lan56 | try not to that is |
| 05:08.07 | lan56 | interrupt, I mean |
| 05:08.11 | bryjen | stepping in the middle and saying "this is stupid" almost guarantees you'll be shot ;) |
| 05:08.14 | Patlabor221 | karma has been promised for SO long |
| 05:08.22 | Patlabor221 | it's almost a joke now |
| 05:08.27 | Patlabor221 | tim's prety much the bastion of it |
| 05:08.30 | *** join/#bzflag LHFP (~LHFP@ACC2696D.ipt.aol.com) |
| 05:08.35 | Patlabor221 | everyone agrees registation is a good thing |
| 05:08.38 | lan56 | it is |
| 05:08.45 | Patlabor221 | but he's very dead set on it's implmentaion and uses and evertying |
| 05:08.47 | LHFP | ~seen Tegan |
| 05:08.48 | ibot | tegan <~lyra@dsl017-034-201.sfo4.dsl.speakeasy.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #bzflag, 2d 1h 14m 50s ago, saying: 'hi'. |
| 05:08.54 | amathis | Lepricons_Hat_Furry_People |
| 05:08.55 | Patlabor221 | so everyone who has tried to help him has been driven off of it |
| 05:09.01 | LHFP | no |
| 05:09.02 | amathis | *hate |
| 05:09.06 | *** part/#bzflag LHFP (~LHFP@ACC2696D.ipt.aol.com) |
| 05:09.44 | lan56 | well, it is understandable to want to do something you want yourself |
| 05:09.52 | lan56 | easier to get it done how you want |
| 05:09.57 | Patlabor221 | not when your the maintainer |
| 05:10.11 | Patlabor221 | there is a thing in larger projects called deligation |
| 05:10.13 | Patlabor221 | and cooperation |
| 05:10.23 | bryjen | compromise |
| 05:10.24 | Patlabor221 | he dosn't have time to do it |
| 05:10.28 | Patlabor221 | that too |
| 05:10.37 | lan56 | ahh, I understand now |
| 05:10.40 | Patlabor221 | so a lot of people willing to help, just spin there wheels |
| 05:10.58 | Patlabor221 | and any commit they make that ISN"T karma, gets a "I wish it was karma" comment from him |
| 05:11.15 | Patlabor221 | when noone else besides him has any idea what or how karam is to be done |
| 05:11.18 | lan56 | sounds like a hypocrite, or a spoiled view |
| 05:11.26 | Patlabor221 | tim is a very smart man |
| 05:11.29 | lan56 | he sure is |
| 05:11.39 | Patlabor221 | he's just not a good development manager |
| 05:11.49 | Patlabor221 | he's still a coder at heart |
| 05:11.59 | Patlabor221 | so he gets stuck on impementation details |
| 05:12.19 | Patlabor221 | and can't let the asinged dev just work it out with his peers ( him included ) |
| 05:12.19 | lan56 | he looks a lot like bill gates, from what pictures that I have seen :) |
| 05:12.27 | Patlabor221 | he also wont' assign tasks to anyone |
| 05:12.29 | Patlabor221 | heh |
| 05:12.34 | Patlabor221 | it's the glasses |
| 05:12.40 | lan56 | not all of it |
| 05:12.40 | Patlabor221 | and Billy is a bit more round |
| 05:12.54 | lan56 | it's also the smile, the face, the head |
| 05:12.54 | Patlabor221 | but yes they are similar in apearnce |
| 05:12.59 | Patlabor221 | tho I think that picture is old |
| 05:13.03 | MeBigFatGuy | he does a mean moses, as well |
| 05:13.27 | lan56 | in the "famous" one, the one on sf.net and cia, he doesn't really, but in the ones on rikers.org, yes |
| 05:13.32 | lan56 | of his family and etc |
| 05:14.51 | MeBigFatGuy | at tims? |
| 05:14.58 | Patlabor221 | no yours |
| 05:15.05 | MeBigFatGuy | my project list? |
| 05:15.07 | MeBigFatGuy | on bz? |
| 05:15.11 | Patlabor221 | yes your project list |
| 05:15.14 | bryjen | you've been drafted |
| 05:15.14 | Patlabor221 | on sf |
| 05:15.47 | Patlabor221 | naw, he just likes to correct my spelling |
| 05:16.26 | MeBigFatGuy | 1.11? |
| 05:16.44 | bryjen | http://sourceforge.net/project/memberlist.php?group_id=116314 |
| 05:16.54 | MeBigFatGuy | ah |
| 05:17.08 | Patlabor221 | he may be a bit slow, but we still love |
| 05:17.32 | Patlabor221 | tho may take him a day to CO |
| 05:18.57 | CIA-4 | opencombat: 03jeffm2501 * 10opencombat/win32/opencombat.ico: icon change |
| 05:19.00 | Patlabor221 | MeBigFatGuy: when did you start on bz? |
| 05:19.11 | MeBigFatGuy | mm |
| 05:19.15 | MeBigFatGuy | early 2001 i think |
| 05:20.00 | Patlabor221 | goodly amount of time there |