| 00:00.01 | Patlabor221 | it has to cool? |
| 00:00.04 | DTRemenak | and I drive the speed limit, thank you :) |
| 00:00.16 | Patlabor221 | I drive over it :) |
| 00:00.17 | brlcad | jeesh.. I could drive canada faster than that |
| 00:00.29 | Patlabor221 | would take me 22 to get to canada |
| 00:00.31 | DTRemenak | yeah, it gets kinda warm |
| 00:00.50 | brlcad | If I stopped near grapevines, it wouldn't be to cool off anything but my belly ;) |
| 00:01.05 | DTRemenak | takes me 18 to seattle |
| 00:02.08 | Patlabor221 | yeah you got a bit of a head start :) |
| 00:02.09 | lan56 | I think the speed limit up in Kern county, in the desert or deserted parts is 80 |
| 00:02.19 | lan56 | I know going east to edwards AFB it is 80 |
| 00:02.19 | Patlabor221 | I know if it no higher then 75 |
| 00:02.43 | DTRemenak | I actually may not have to stop at the top of the grapevine this time, replaced the radiator after last time *cough* |
| 00:03.50 | Patlabor221 | old car? |
| 00:04.53 | DTRemenak | '87 |
| 00:05.01 | DTRemenak | so yeah |
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| 00:08.21 | DTRemenak | mrrf, bzfs is leaking again :( |
| 00:09.29 | brlcad | didn't anyone let bzfs out to go pody?? |
| 00:09.47 | DTRemenak | heh :) |
| 00:09.58 | MacLinux | is laser suposed to not ricoche in 1.11.x? |
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| 00:10.27 | DTRemenak | hmph, *WordFilter* is leaking again :( |
| 00:10.40 | brlcad | Mmm.. GFA convention in Montréal .. |
| 00:10.47 | brlcad | oh really? |
| 00:11.03 | DTRemenak | yeah |
| 00:11.04 | brlcad | I haven't touched it (i think) |
| 00:11.14 | DTRemenak | you want the log? |
| 00:11.21 | brlcad | sure why not |
| 00:11.26 | DTRemenak | that's kinda what I thought - and it was working |
| 00:11.59 | Patlabor221 | yay, playingLoop() is allmost clean :) |
| 00:12.06 | brlcad | hrmph.. I would have noticed someone editing it .. unless if was mixed in the loads of header mods :) |
| 00:12.32 | DTRemenak | I may have added <string>, but that's it |
| 00:12.43 | DTRemenak | and that should not make it spontaneously leak :) |
| 00:14.35 | brlcad | :) muaheehee |
| 00:17.56 | DTRemenak | http://www.pastebin.com/87108 |
| 00:18.02 | DTRemenak | dunno why it thinks it's php tho |
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| 00:23.46 | Patlabor221 | ahh there now the function is only 99 lines :) |
| 00:24.20 | CIA-4 | BZFlag: 03dtremenak * 10bzflag/src/game/CollisionManager.cxx: Initialize WorldSize |
| 00:28.08 | brlcad | DTRemenak: interesting.. only on the suffix |
| 00:28.24 | brlcad | maybe another duplicate entry slipped in |
| 00:29.18 | DTRemenak | ah, could be |
| 00:29.47 | brlcad | otherwise suffixes are handled identically to prefixes |
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| 00:33.37 | brlcad | DTRemenak: wtf does "possibly lost" mean? :) |
| 00:34.04 | DTRemenak | that means it found something that *might* a pointer to it, in the data block at program exit |
| 00:34.22 | DTRemenak | if it found something it *knows* is a pointer to it, it's "still reachable" |
| 00:34.34 | DTRemenak | if it found no pointers to it at all, it's "definately lost" |
| 00:34.38 | brlcad | the word filter ones are reachable records though.. |
| 00:34.46 | brlcad | quite a bit actually.. 22K |
| 00:34.53 | DTRemenak | right - just means that the pointer was still around when the program exited |
| 00:35.22 | brlcad | maybe the filter wasn't destroyed |
| 00:35.34 | brlcad | hrm.. then all of them would be like that, though.. |
| 00:35.44 | DTRemenak | mm - maybe it's at object end rather than program end |
| 00:36.23 | brlcad | I got rid of .... |
| 00:36.25 | brlcad | ooooooh |
| 00:36.26 | brlcad | heh |
| 00:36.32 | DTRemenak | heh |
| 00:36.45 | brlcad | There's a word filter in the client |
| 00:36.48 | brlcad | checking "SERVER" |
| 00:36.54 | brlcad | it's never destroyed |
| 00:37.01 | DTRemenak | that's a server-side log |
| 00:37.11 | brlcad | er, server |
| 00:37.14 | brlcad | meant server :) |
| 00:37.23 | DTRemenak | heh :) |
| 00:37.26 | DTRemenak | client doesn't leak |
| 00:37.32 | brlcad | to prevent spoofing the server's messages |
| 00:37.35 | DTRemenak | ah, ok |
| 00:37.42 | brlcad | callsign match |
| 00:37.55 | brlcad | yet it's static .. and never deleted |
| 00:38.08 | DTRemenak | hm, but why would it be leaking out suffix |
| 00:38.14 | DTRemenak | and not prefix? |
| 00:38.49 | brlcad | good question |
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| 00:48.56 | CIA-4 | BZFlag: 03brlcad * 10bzflag/ (include/PlayerInfo.h src/game/PlayerInfo.cxx): silly learner. don't use new on static data unless you delete it too. non-pointer works well enough here too. |
| 00:49.00 | Patlabor221 | how would I add a new item to bzdb? |
| 00:49.09 | Patlabor221 | like UseNewRendering ? |
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| 00:49.52 | brlcad | BZDB.set("UseNewRendering", "1"); |
| 00:49.59 | Patlabor221 | where would I do that? |
| 00:50.18 | brlcad | or even setBool("UseNewRendering", true); |
| 00:50.22 | Patlabor221 | to like set the defualt |
| 00:50.24 | brlcad | anywhere you want |
| 00:50.49 | brlcad | you want "UseNewRendering to be "registered" and set by default? |
| 00:50.53 | Patlabor221 | yeah |
| 00:50.58 | Patlabor221 | and set to treue |
| 00:51.06 | Patlabor221 | bt then able to turn it off in the config |
| 00:51.34 | brlcad | src/common/global.cxx are the ones that are available to both client/server |
| 00:51.46 | Patlabor221 | this is just client only |
| 00:52.23 | Patlabor221 | I know I did it once for like the texture names |
| 00:52.53 | brlcad | src/bzflag/bzflag.cxx |
| 00:53.04 | brlcad | defaultDBItems[] |
| 00:53.31 | Patlabor221 | that's the bastage |
| 00:53.32 | Patlabor221 | thanks |
| 00:54.02 | Patlabor221 | whoah, I think I accedentaly made it easyer to have a headless client |
| 00:54.04 | brlcad | DTRemenak: how's that? |
| 00:54.05 | Patlabor221 | sorry bout that |
| 00:54.47 | DTRemenak | brlcad: haven't looked yet |
| 00:54.55 | DTRemenak | brlcad: the flags one is yours too btw :) |
| 00:55.06 | DTRemenak | unless someone else was working around MIPSPro bugs :) |
| 00:55.17 | brlcad | flags? who wha? :) |
| 00:55.59 | brlcad | hey, I just wanted the sucker to compile and not crash |
| 00:55.59 | DTRemenak | tried fixing it the obvious way (delete[] in a destructor), didn't work - dunno if the destructor I added wasn't being called or what |
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| 00:58.13 | brlcad | 28 whole bytes.. wow |
| 00:58.27 | DTRemenak | hey, don't diss the poor bytes :) |
| 00:58.54 | DTRemenak | run bzfs 36 times and all of a sudden you're missing a whole K :) |
| 01:00.16 | brlcad | ahh.. same problem |
| 01:00.25 | brlcad | silly me and static data |
| 01:00.58 | brlcad | could call an explicit "delete me" routine before application exit |
| 01:01.05 | DTRemenak | umm... /home/devel/bzflag/src/game/PlayerInfo.cxx:143: undefined reference to `PlayerInfo::serverSpoofingFilter' |
| 01:02.08 | brlcad | uhh |
| 01:02.11 | DTRemenak | sorry to be bothering you so much :) |
| 01:02.51 | brlcad | you did update include/ yes? |
| 01:03.13 | DTRemenak | whole tree |
| 01:03.33 | DTRemenak | P include/PlayerInfo.h |
| 01:03.34 | DTRemenak | so yes |
| 01:06.17 | brlcad | oh, that's a symbol reference |
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| 01:09.28 | brlcad | ahh, forgot to init/declare the static |
| 01:10.21 | DTRemenak | ah |
| 01:10.51 | DTRemenak | you and statics don't seem to get along too well ;) |
| 01:11.32 | CIA-4 | BZFlag: 03brlcad * 10bzflag/src/game/PlayerInfo.cxx: suppose that static data should be initialized/declared so that the compiler will make some memory for it.. *ahem* compiling would help too |
| 01:11.37 | brlcad | I'm not electric, apparently |
| 01:11.53 | DTRemenak | but you have such a magnetic personality :) |
| 01:12.23 | brlcad | it's just my bipolar personality |
| 01:12.31 | MacLinux | is learner around? |
| 01:12.42 | brlcad | MacLinux: he's sleeping, what can I do for ya? :) |
| 01:13.05 | MacLinux | i was wondering why the laser doesn't reflect in 1.11.x |
| 01:13.32 | brlcad | that depends on whether a map has ricochet turned on |
| 01:13.52 | MacLinux | ok thats why |
| 01:13.58 | MacLinux | i'll have to change the bzfs.conf |
| 01:14.06 | brlcad | -r iirc |
| 01:14.23 | brlcad | or +r .. never can remember |
| 01:17.39 | MacLinux | is it possible to close the "All, Chat, Server, Misc" window? |
| 01:18.01 | brlcad | almost |
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| 01:18.06 | brlcad | you can make the tabs go away |
| 01:18.13 | MacLinux | how? |
| 01:18.17 | brlcad | and you can make the box completely transparent |
| 01:18.22 | brlcad | and smaller |
| 01:18.27 | brlcad | on the menu .. gui options |
| 01:18.42 | MacLinux | are the tabs in the gui options? |
| 01:19.28 | brlcad | there somewhere in the menu |
| 01:19.38 | brlcad | don't recall exactly where |
| 01:21.20 | DTRemenak | brlcad: WordFilter no longer leaks, just Flags left :) |
| 01:21.49 | DTRemenak | hmm...seems to me someone left adding the menu item for those tabs for "later" |
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| 01:22.23 | brlcad | oh |
| 01:22.31 | brlcad | tee hee |
| 01:23.00 | DTRemenak | I could do that, I suppose - is it supposed to be left/right/none? or is right-side hardcoded in now |
| 01:23.19 | brlcad | it's a boolean |
| 01:24.03 | DTRemenak | ok - what does the boolean mean? on/off or left/right? |
| 01:24.07 | brlcad | left/right |
| 01:24.23 | brlcad | there's already code for on-off that is referred to .. |
| 01:24.30 | brlcad | didn't see where it was hooked up |
| 01:24.39 | DTRemenak | it probably wasn't |
| 01:24.44 | brlcad | s/see/look/ |
| 01:26.24 | Patlabor221 | 3DView sound good for a camera/viewport class? |
| 01:27.29 | DTRemenak | MacLinux: for now, add "set showtabs 0" to your client config file |
| 01:29.30 | MacLinux | ok |
| 01:29.32 | MacLinux | thanks |
| 01:29.36 | MacLinux | i couldn't find it in the menu |
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| 01:31.03 | DTRemenak | MacLinux: it's not there yet, gimme a minute :) |
| 01:31.34 | brlcad | heh |
| 01:32.25 | brlcad | MacLinux: you'll of course have to "cvs update -A" .. to get the cvs head now .. |
| 01:32.34 | brlcad | instead of the N days ago |
| 01:35.01 | MacLinux | what does the -A do? |
| 01:35.24 | MacLinux | all? |
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| 01:38.47 | brlcad | don't try to make sense of the letter.. it means drop the sticky bit and update to the cvs HEAD |
| 01:40.07 | MacLinux | so it will be fine even though the latest cvs was broken? |
| 01:41.27 | DTRemenak | it is no longer broken, therefore it will be fine :) |
| 01:41.42 | DTRemenak | that's the thing about "latest" - in just a little while, it is no longer latest |
| 01:42.42 | MacLinux | ok good |
| 01:42.44 | brlcad | no guarantees on the non-broken part either :) |
| 01:42.49 | brlcad | but "should" work :) |
| 01:43.02 | Nidhoggr | the compile errors I got earlier were fixed. |
| 01:43.07 | Nidhoggr | only issue is with bzadmin :) |
| 01:43.09 | MacLinux | so i have to recompile everything or can i just compile that one part? |
| 01:43.27 | brlcad | MacLinux: you can let the build system figure it out |
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| 01:43.34 | brlcad | do a cvs update -A |
| 01:43.38 | brlcad | and then make |
| 01:44.27 | MacLinux | how do you create a server with a dsn rather than an ip? |
| 01:44.36 | MacLinux | err dns** |
| 01:46.16 | brlcad | MacLinux: http://bzflag.bz/tmp/bzserver-mac.sh |
| 01:46.39 | brlcad | publicaddr |
| 01:48.37 | Legoguy | what happened to that gtk2 bzedit posted on the forums? |
| 01:48.55 | CIA-4 | BZFlag: 03dtremenak * 10bzflag/src/bzflag/ (ControlPanel.cxx GUIOptionsMenu.cxx bzflag.cxx): Menu option for tab placement - off/left/right |
| 01:49.48 | DTRemenak | Nidhoggr: what's the prob. with bzadmin? |
| 01:50.18 | brlcad | yay |
| 01:50.23 | Legoguy | mm looks like i should build meself another CVS |
| 01:59.52 | Legoguy | MacLinux: well, what you need to do to get a dns rather than IP, is to register the DNS _to_ an IP. then you can use the DNS as the public address... |
| 02:01.09 | fplus | <free dns serv> http://freedns.afraid.org/ |
| 02:01.31 | Patlabor221 | no-ip.com is prety good too |
| 02:02.30 | MacLinux | hmm |
| 02:05.49 | MacLinux | what do most people do |
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| 02:15.57 | MacLinux | what does the bzserver-mac.sh do? |
| 02:16.57 | brlcad | That's what's running the Mr Apathy Cream's Playground |
| 02:17.42 | brlcad | It restarts the server when it quits unless there was an error .. then it waits a little while |
| 02:18.16 | MacLinux | ok |
| 02:18.16 | brlcad | it also sets the public message to the build date of bzfs (since it is a dev server) |
| 02:19.16 | brlcad | http://cgi.liveauctions.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=2256298346&category=28193# |
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| 02:39.11 | amathis | anyone wanna see a good optical illusion? |
| 02:39.15 | lan56 | I do |
| 02:39.24 | amathis | http://boortz.com/more/optical_illusion.html |
| 02:39.35 | lan56 | this better be good or someone is going to die :) |
| 02:40.30 | lan56 | heh, I get it:) |
| 02:40.36 | lan56 | at first I thought there was a real illusion |
| 02:40.55 | lan56 | it did take a minute or two to notice the boat though :) |
| 02:41.02 | amathis | haha |
| 02:41.13 | lan56 | (insert fake laughs here) |
| 02:42.01 | sgk284 | haha thats awesome |
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| 02:44.11 | Icedrake | hi |
| 02:44.23 | lan56 | hello |
| 02:44.27 | Icedrake | hmm |
| 02:44.30 | Icedrake | anyone seen carnage? |
| 02:44.31 | lan56 | what? |
| 02:44.39 | lan56 | yes, he was on today |
| 02:44.43 | Icedrake | ahh |
| 02:44.46 | lan56 | not on now though |
| 02:44.50 | Icedrake | if you see him tell him drake is looking for em |
| 02:44.55 | lan56 | sure thing |
| 02:44.57 | Icedrake | ty |
| 02:45.00 | lan56 | np |
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| 02:45.13 | Icedrake | so how come so many pple that dont talk? |
| 02:45.21 | brlcad | MeBigFatGuy: didn't miss you this time ;) |
| 02:45.25 | lan56 | we do, it's just we're at all different time zones |
| 02:45.28 | amathis | this is not a chat room Icedrake |
| 02:45.29 | Icedrake | ahh |
| 02:45.33 | MeBigFatGuy | heh |
| 02:45.37 | Icedrake | :\ |
| 02:45.45 | lan56 | he's kidding with you |
| 02:46.00 | Icedrake | i figured |
| 02:46.10 | lan56 | ever cooked beans on a grill? |
| 02:46.15 | Icedrake | nope |
| 02:46.18 | Icedrake | i dont really cook |
| 02:46.22 | Icedrake | i do cereal |
| 02:46.28 | lan56 | you do the cereal thing? |
| 02:46.31 | Icedrake | yeah |
| 02:46.34 | lan56 | that is so last week |
| 02:46.36 | Icedrake | im 15, dont have to cook |
| 02:46.36 | lan56 | :) |
| 02:46.38 | Icedrake | ;) |
| 02:46.43 | Icedrake | brb |
| 02:46.49 | lan56 | sure thing sunny |
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| 03:32.34 | sgk284 | how can you check when someone last logged on? |
| 03:32.52 | Quol | ~seen sgk284 |
| 03:32.53 | ibot | sgk284 is currently on #bzflag (1h 8m 17s). Has said a total of 2 messages. Is idling for 19s |
| 03:33.09 | sgk284 | heh sounds good, thanks |
| 03:33.16 | Quol | :) |
| 03:35.11 | sgk284 | hey anyone in here hear about the sal wise fiasco? |
| 03:35.19 | Nidhoggr | :) |
| 03:35.25 | Nidhoggr | sal wise? |
| 03:35.30 | Nidhoggr | wassat? |
| 03:35.34 | sgk284 | hey nid! |
| 03:35.41 | sgk284 | you ever read slashdot? |
| 03:35.43 | Nidhoggr | hiya sgk |
| 03:35.53 | Nidhoggr | usually every morning. |
| 03:36.19 | Nidhoggr | hrm. slashdot slow |
| 03:36.23 | sgk284 | sal wise is a guy who lives in philadelphia and has this whole long thing about how he's scammed quite a few people out a few thousand |
| 03:37.03 | sgk284 | in particular justin spence who set up a website about sal and brought together all the victims |
| 03:37.09 | Nidhoggr | nod |
| 03:37.11 | Nidhoggr | I remember that |
| 03:37.21 | Nidhoggr | brb |
| 03:37.47 | sgk284 | anyway, i work downtown and its not too far to Sal's address so i stopped by one day just to tell Justin what it was like... heh it was horrible |
| 03:37.56 | sgk284 | okay |
| 03:39.31 | brlcad | Nidhoggr: would knowledge that we are meeting in LA at a sushi place entice you? :) |
| 03:40.01 | sgk284 | raw fish.... yum ;) |
| 03:40.29 | Nidhoggr | brlcad, while I might be able to get flight in and out, I would be required to spend the night to get the decent fares, which would still make it too expensive.. then I'd need to get to the sushi place, etc. |
| 03:40.59 | brlcad | Nidhoggr: I'll pick up up at the airport at 6pm on the way down ;) |
| 03:41.07 | Nidhoggr | :) |
| 03:41.07 | brlcad | j/k, I know how it goes |
| 03:41.20 | brlcad | hopefully next year ;) |
| 03:41.27 | Nidhoggr | in boston is it? |
| 03:42.30 | Nidhoggr | senior moment or something. |
| 03:42.36 | brlcad | no, next year is also in LA .. year after is boston |
| 03:42.43 | Nidhoggr | oh, that's right |
| 03:42.56 | Nidhoggr | I was close! |
| 03:43.05 | Nidhoggr | it's a lot of work to entertain a kitten. |
| 03:43.06 | JBdiGriz | I'm sure we can arrange a place for you to stay near the airport |
| 03:44.18 | brlcad | JBdiGriz: are you okay with sushi? |
| 03:44.37 | brlcad | almost forgot to ask the man himself... |
| 03:44.40 | Nidhoggr | mmmmmm. sushi. |
| 03:44.54 | JBdiGriz | sure, i just avoid the crustaceans |
| 03:45.07 | brlcad | there are good veggie sushi's :) |
| 03:45.21 | Nidhoggr | eeew |
| 03:45.33 | brlcad | hey, it's all about the wasabi :) |
| 03:45.46 | Nidhoggr | now, I was tempted by the thought of steak tartar today. |
| 03:46.48 | Nidhoggr | she has far too much energy. |
| 03:57.38 | Megachirops | anyone seen ol' KR lately? |
| 03:58.40 | DTRemenak | ~seen KR |
| 03:58.41 | ibot | kr <~kyle@cae88-34-172.sc.rr.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #bzflag, 4d 9h 6m 10s ago, saying: 'this is as close as I get to AIM, ,mostly :)'. |
| 03:58.52 | Megachirops | show off |
| 03:59.22 | Nidhoggr | :) |
| 04:33.54 | DTRemenak | or got disconnected... |
| 04:34.27 | brlcad | dout'! |
| 04:34.54 | brlcad | or his clever way of avoiding the issue |
| 04:37.10 | Megachirops | little hopw for sanity in my life... |
| 04:37.26 | brlcad | DNC? |
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| 04:38.07 | brlcad | pretty quiet today altogether |
| 04:38.26 | brlcad | yessh.. even scaring off pat tonight |
| 04:38.36 | Patlabor221 | that was double me |
| 04:38.47 | Patlabor221 | xchat != winamp |
| 04:38.51 | brlcad | heh |
| 04:39.01 | Patlabor221 | tho they are both orange in color |
| 04:39.22 | Patlabor221 | I think I'm gonna need a lighting manager |
| 04:39.24 | sgk284 | xchat is orange? |
| 04:39.38 | bryjen | Eeek! peoples! ;) |
| 04:39.39 | brlcad | it's nice to be the only one in the office.. crank the music way up |
| 04:39.40 | Patlabor221 | blends from orange to red |
| 04:40.00 | sgk284 | heh mine is just plain ol' grey |
| 04:40.25 | Patlabor221 | mine looks like OSX |
| 04:40.44 | sgk284 | oh ok |
| 04:41.08 | SportChick | did I hear SUSHI?~! |
| 04:41.38 | sgk284 | hey sporty! |
| 04:41.46 | sgk284 | sportchick++ |
| 04:41.47 | SportChick | hi sgk |
| 04:41.50 | SportChick | heh |
| 04:41.55 | sgk284 | oops |
| 04:41.59 | sgk284 | how goes it? |
| 04:42.00 | SportChick | ~karma sportchick |
| 04:42.00 | ibot | sportchick has karma of 20 |
| 04:42.06 | sgk284 | wow |
| 04:42.08 | SportChick | you forgot the squiggle |
| 04:42.10 | brlcad | ~SportChick++ |
| 04:42.12 | SportChick | it's going okay |
| 04:42.14 | SportChick | :) |
| 04:42.18 | sgk284 | ~sportchic++ |
| 04:42.20 | sgk284 | ugh |
| 04:42.23 | sgk284 | ~sportchick++ |
| 04:42.26 | sgk284 | there |
| 04:42.29 | sgk284 | :) |
| 04:42.37 | brlcad | SportChick: you indeed did :) |
| 04:42.48 | brlcad | looks like there's something we can mostly all agree on :) |
| 04:42.49 | SportChick | car had to get towed to costa mesa - still don't know what's wrong with it or if it'll be covered by warranty |
| 04:42.52 | sgk284 | ~karma sgk284 |
| 04:42.52 | ibot | sgk284 has karma of 2 |
| 04:42.55 | sgk284 | yes! |
| 04:42.55 | SportChick | hooray!! |
| 04:43.02 | Patlabor221 | the new one? |
| 04:43.02 | SportChick | ~sgk284++ |
| 04:43.07 | brlcad | usually food is the hardest |
| 04:43.11 | SportChick | ~brlcad++ |
| 04:43.11 | sgk284 | heh thx |
| 04:43.23 | sgk284 | car troubles are never fun |
| 04:43.33 | SportChick | yes - we have a 68 spitfire, a 96 kawasaki and a 2002 jeep - the only one running is the '68 |
| 04:43.34 | *** join/#bzflag |tim| (~|tim|@ip68-106-184-191.sb.sd.cox.net) |
| 04:43.37 | brlcad | SportChick: if you need a ride, you know the offer stands |
| 04:43.40 | SportChick | and my bicycle |
| 04:43.44 | brlcad | heh |
| 04:43.47 | Patlabor221 | you loved that new jeep |
| 04:43.47 | SportChick | thanks, brlcad |
| 04:43.52 | SportChick | LOVE (still do) |
| 04:44.06 | brlcad | i wish I had a 68 spitfire to fallback on |
| 04:44.07 | SportChick | but something exceedingly weird happened on the way to work on Tuesday |
| 04:44.18 | Patlabor221 | aliens? |
| 04:44.31 | brlcad | abducted your fuel intake? |
| 04:44.34 | bryjen | godzilla? |
| 04:44.39 | sgk284 | mozilla? |
| 04:45.12 | bryjen | don't browse and drive. hand on the wheel, eyes on the road. ;) |
| 04:45.23 | SportChick | stopped at a traffic light (car was running just fine). When the light turned green, everyone went...except me. |
| 04:45.26 | brlcad | SportChick: So.. now it's your task to pick a good sushi place if you don't mind ;) |
| 04:45.30 | SportChick | something's up with the tranny, I think |
| 04:45.34 | SportChick | well, I can do that |
| 04:45.47 | Patlabor221 | trany spensive |
| 04:45.54 | SportChick | do you want excellent sushi at a reasonable price and a funky bar kinda atmosphere? |
| 04:46.03 | brlcad | trany under warranty I'd hope |
| 04:46.17 | SportChick | or do you want stuffy atmosphere with mediocre sushi and medium to high prices |
| 04:46.39 | Patlabor221 | naw that's not a loaded discription :) |
| 04:46.42 | SportChick | or slightly nicer atmosphere with medium to high prices and good sushi |
| 04:46.43 | *** join/#bzflag lan56 (lan56@dialup-4.233.53.18.Dial1.LosAngeles1.Level3.net) |
| 04:47.04 | lan56 | I feel I have joined at the right time :)))) |
| 04:47.07 | Patlabor221 | tha ability to handle the number of people would be the largest concern |
| 04:47.19 | SportChick | or do you want great sushi with medium prics and a buffet-ish atmosphere? |
| 04:47.25 | brlcad | yeah.. we're up to 8 if badger shows |
| 04:47.29 | SportChick | all can handle all |
| 04:47.40 | SportChick | it's a matter of wait |
| 04:47.48 | brlcad | SportChick: not loud .. |
| 04:47.52 | Megachirops | there's a sushi and burger place up here... pretty big, nice menu... would be hard to convince them to move for a couple days tho... |
| 04:47.55 | brlcad | good sushi is a plus |
| 04:48.07 | DTRemenak | Megachirops: you planning on having them all drive up here? ;) |
| 04:48.14 | SportChick | hmmm....not loud, that rules out Club Sushi and Paradise |
| 04:48.15 | Megachirops | I like that idea better |
| 04:48.24 | brlcad | SportChick: if you know of a place that also caters well to potential non-meaters, that'd be good too |
| 04:48.27 | Megachirops | 7 minute vs. 7 hour drive... |
| 04:48.28 | SportChick | I'm thinking Ikirichi mightest |
| 04:48.44 | Patlabor221 | who is the non meat? |
| 04:48.55 | SportChick | technically, ikirichi is in Redondo though - is that okay? |
| 04:49.10 | Patlabor221 | is that closer or further to me? |
| 04:49.23 | SportChick | then theree's penny lane, but it can be loud |
| 04:49.28 | brlcad | SportChick: though I enjoy a great fun sushi place as much as the next, i'm there to meet and chat with you folk :) .. think talkable, relaxing, etc ;) |
| 04:49.32 | SportChick | and octopus, but it's not that great |
| 04:49.41 | lan56 | mmm, octopus |
| 04:49.50 | Patlabor221 | sonumuno |
| 04:49.53 | SportChick | heh,the name of the restaurant is octopus |
| 04:49.57 | lan56 | oh :( |
| 04:49.58 | lan56 | :) |
| 04:50.13 | brlcad | the farther north the better since most are north of la |
| 04:50.24 | DTRemenak | location is unimportant in general, to those of us from further away - but knowing would be good so we grab a close motel |
| 04:50.26 | SportChick | I think ikirichi might be best - it's still relatively new (opened in October) but it's very yummy and reasonable prices |
| 04:51.13 | brlcad | Do they have the big boats? :) |
| 04:51.28 | brlcad | (not important, just wondering) |
| 04:51.44 | SportChick | Here is Ikirichi: http://maps.yahoo.com/maps_result?ed=IxqPIOp_0Tq5VPD0bXPcrjMi6MzKvsE4.h42&csz=90277&country=us&new=1&name=&qty= |
| 04:52.17 | SportChick | The other options are in MB and HB (more in HB) |
| 04:52.56 | brlcad | is there something near 405 and 10? :) |
| 04:53.04 | lan56 | brlcad: ahh, I can't figure out where key checking goes in |
| 04:53.04 | lan56 | looked all over |
| 04:53.06 | SportChick | The other locations are closest to here: http://maps.yahoo.com/maps_result?ed=GbMxzup_0TrmMtZl4BWjllhMmGA6TTquXQ--&csz=90254&country=us&new=1&name=&qty= |
| 04:53.09 | lan56 | even looked at old patches |
| 04:53.14 | SportChick | that's not near LAX |
| 04:53.20 | SportChick | 405 & 10 |
| 04:53.47 | brlcad | i know.. just a thought :) |
| 04:53.54 | SportChick | there are places up there, but you have multiple problems - they usually require reservations, they are often quite loud (or small) and they are very priccey |
| 04:54.07 | SportChick | there is ONE up there - my fav place in all of LA, but it's very very $$$$$ |
| 04:54.12 | SportChick | Sushi Sasabune |
| 04:54.18 | Patlabor221 | make it convient for them |
| 04:54.20 | SportChick | yummy!! but hard to find and very exclusive |
| 04:54.26 | Patlabor221 | I have to drive over an hour no mater what |
| 04:54.34 | Megachirops | could we just tell a taco bell not to microwave the taco meat? |
| 04:54.39 | SportChick | ewwwww |
| 04:54.40 | brlcad | Patlabor221: it makes no difference to me |
| 04:54.43 | lan56 | yuck |
| 04:54.47 | DTRemenak | pricey is probably not the best for some of us |
| 04:54.55 | brlcad | I was thinking more for you and dtr |
| 04:54.57 | lan56 | even I am disgusted by the thought of eating frozen meat :) |
| 04:55.01 | SportChick | (me included - especdially with jeep in the shop) |
| 04:55.07 | SportChick | dtr coming from where? |
| 04:55.14 | SportChick | I know Pat's coming from up north |
| 04:55.16 | brlcad | Megachirops: heh |
| 04:55.17 | DTRemenak | sacramento area |
| 04:55.24 | SportChick | JB coming from SD, right? |
| 04:55.26 | SportChick | wow |
| 04:55.33 | brlcad | all over :) |
| 04:55.33 | Patlabor221 | brlcad: how do I set something in bzdb cache? |
| 04:55.33 | SportChick | you outta drive with badger! :) |
| 04:55.45 | DTRemenak | where's he coming from? |
| 04:55.52 | SportChick | dtr, I assume you're spending the night |
| 04:55.54 | SportChick | he's in bay area |
| 04:55.55 | DTRemenak | yeah |
| 04:56.02 | SportChick | but think he might fly |
| 04:56.18 | SportChick | dtr, are you here for convention too, or just to hang with us? |
| 04:56.24 | Megachirops | DTR: are we gonna literally drive down, and drive back the next day? |
| 04:56.29 | DTRemenak | naw, just to hang |
| 04:56.38 | DTRemenak | Megachirops: that's what I was planning, why? |
| 04:56.46 | Megachirops | just asking :) |
| 04:56.52 | Megachirops | let's do the PCH on the way back |
| 04:56.53 | SportChick | well, you may wanna get a place in HB or RB - lotsa little placs there to say and generally on the cheaper side of things |
| 04:57.28 | SportChick | It's a shame Nidhoggr is gonna miss out on sushi |
| 04:57.30 | DTRemenak | Megachirops: sure, why not? :) |
| 04:57.37 | brlcad | Patlabor221: Cache is not much of a "cache".. include/BZDBcache.h |
| 04:58.06 | Patlabor221 | well bool useManagers = BZDB.isTrue("useNewRendering"); |
| 04:58.06 | Patlabor221 | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:58.20 | Patlabor221 | is it ok to have it do the lookup? |
| 04:58.58 | brlcad | how much is "a lot" .. the stuff in the cache is generally called 1000's or more per sec |
| 04:59.07 | Megachirops | If I may pose a stupid question... What is the PRIMARY objective of BZCon? |
| 04:59.21 | Patlabor221 | objective? |
| 04:59.31 | Megachirops | thought so.. just making sure |
| 04:59.37 | Nidhoggr | :) |
| 04:59.37 | Patlabor221 | its jus cus brlcad, cap, and scan will be out here |
| 05:00.15 | Patlabor221 | brlcad: I'm looking a number of times per frame |
| 05:00.16 | brlcad | cause I want to have a face for all the people who's time I get to waste :) |
| 05:00.21 | DTRemenak | to quote SC: "are you here for convention too, or just to hang with us?" and since we aren't going to SIGGRAPH, we're just going to hang. |
| 05:00.34 | brlcad | Patlabor221: could be worthy then |
| 05:00.47 | Patlabor221 | odds of it changing at runtime = NILL tho |
| 05:01.02 | Patlabor221 | screwit, they'll ahave to restart if they want rendering systems to change |
| 05:01.11 | DTRemenak | Patlabor221: if odds of changing at runtime are nothing, bzdb is not the best solution anyway |
| 05:01.12 | brlcad | Patlabor221: don't think it's a problem |
| 05:01.20 | brlcad | it's more of a global lookup container |
| 05:01.28 | brlcad | go ahead and use it ;) |
| 05:01.29 | Nidhoggr | if I wasn't so uncertain about driving in LA, I might consider driving out. |
| 05:01.33 | Patlabor221 | DTRemenak: bzdb just gives me a simple config interface :) |
| 05:01.41 | brlcad | Nidhoggr: ah, tis easy :) |
| 05:01.43 | DTRemenak | Nidhoggr: wherefrom? |
| 05:01.53 | Nidhoggr | phoenix |
| 05:02.01 | SportChick | Nidhoggr - I can give you killer directions! AND remember, if you come in on Sat, then it's a piece of cake |
| 05:02.02 | DTRemenak | ah, the other other direction |
| 05:02.21 | Nidhoggr | 6 or 7 hour drive |
| 05:02.48 | Nidhoggr | let me think about it. if I can get someone to ride with, it'd be easier. |
| 05:02.58 | DTRemenak | bout the same as us, too bad it's the wrong direction |
| 05:03.09 | Nidhoggr | chris (scipio) is working, but I might be able to get darin to go along. |
| 05:03.55 | SportChick | Nidhoggr: fly to Sacrament and drive down with DTR! ;) |
| 05:04.02 | Nidhoggr | heh |
| 05:04.13 | brlcad | hehe |
| 05:04.13 | Megachirops | SC is giving me a headache... |
| 05:04.17 | DTRemenak | heh - you're welcome to, if that works any better :) |
| 05:04.29 | DTRemenak | which I would tend to doubt |
| 05:05.06 | Nidhoggr | let me consider the drive. not sure if there are any other plans that weekend. |
| 05:05.22 | DTRemenak | heh :) |
| 05:05.26 | brlcad | anyone have a time preference? I was thinking before sunset |
| 05:05.46 | brlcad | so like 5-7 |
| 05:05.47 | SportChick | before? well since the sun sets here around 8pm |
| 05:05.48 | DTRemenak | brlcad: like location, it doesn't really matter - but knowing is important ;) |
| 05:06.03 | DTRemenak | I would tend to think earlier == better |
| 05:06.12 | SportChick | How about 6pm? |
| 05:06.18 | SportChick | split the diff |
| 05:06.25 | brlcad | it's not a big deal, heck I could do something as early as noon, but cappy and scanline won't be in just quite yet |
| 05:06.30 | *** join/#bzflag cosmos (~cosmos@valentino.hepcat.org) |
| 05:06.36 | SportChick | will they be in by 6? |
| 05:06.45 | Pimpinella | Cualo is cheating on ducati |
| 05:06.45 | brlcad | yeah, I think they get in 12-1 or so |
| 05:06.48 | DTRemenak | earlier means more time in general |
| 05:06.52 | Pimpinella | can jump |
| 05:07.02 | brlcad | scanline, purple_cow: *ping* |
| 05:07.14 | Nidhoggr | and if I did manage to drive up saturday, mid-afternoon to early evening would be best. |
| 05:07.22 | Pimpinella | he left |
| 05:07.28 | brlcad | DTRemenak: are you driving back that day? if so we could go earlier |
| 05:07.32 | DTRemenak | yeah, *too* early would be difficult :) |
| 05:07.38 | DTRemenak | no, we'll drive back the next day |
| 05:07.42 | Pimpinella | might come back though |
| 05:07.44 | Patlabor221 | hah, I just realised, that since I replaced the rendering pipleline, I also just blew out all menus :) |
| 05:07.54 | brlcad | hi pimpi |
| 05:07.55 | SportChick | well, we could always get together early and have an itinerary - you know, like "Meet at Pier at noon, Go to Good Stuff at 1, Rollerblade HB/MB til 4, dinner at 6"... |
| 05:07.57 | DTRemenak | 14 h driving in one day - geez, no thx :) |
| 05:08.01 | Pimpinella | hi |
| 05:08.09 | brlcad | Patlabor221: heh, minor detail :) |
| 05:08.15 | Patlabor221 | yeah |
| 05:08.25 | Patlabor221 | it draws one hell of a black screen tho :) |
| 05:08.47 | bryjen | screenie ? ;) |
| 05:09.14 | Patlabor221 | there is the busted screenie |
| 05:09.14 | Patlabor221 | http://sasami.bakadigital.com/public/temp/better.png |
| 05:09.16 | brlcad | Meeting up with some before hand individually is more my taste, I tend to clam up with lots of folk |
| 05:09.18 | DTRemenak | Patlabor221: when I first hooked up fontmanager I got the same general impression - forgot to turn on alpha, so I was thinking "draws really nice white boxes..." |
| 05:09.57 | Patlabor221 | DTRemenak: curently this code is calling 0% of the old drawing code, so the menu isn't even being TOLD to draw :) |
| 05:09.58 | DTRemenak | brlcad: mm, same here - tend to listen more than talk |
| 05:10.08 | bryjen | marshmallows! |
| 05:11.14 | Patlabor221 | they really are teleporters |
| 05:11.18 | brlcad | JBdiGriz: *poke* |
| 05:11.26 | DTRemenak | heh "there is a busted screenie .... better.png" makes me wonder "better than???" |
| 05:11.48 | Patlabor221 | it was before |
| 05:11.59 | Patlabor221 | at least in that they were in perspective |
| 05:12.16 | DTRemenak | nice circles tho ;) |
| 05:12.27 | Patlabor221 | they are gluSphere()s |
| 05:12.44 | Patlabor221 | glstate is totaly jacked after the scenenodes are run |
| 05:14.31 | Patlabor221 | so I'm not using it anymore |
| 05:14.46 | DTRemenak | ah, so that would be why nothing draws at all? |
| 05:15.30 | Patlabor221 | I cleaned up playingLoop(); |
| 05:15.37 | Patlabor221 | it now can go between 2 difrent rendering systems |
| 05:15.46 | Patlabor221 | the old one that uses the nodes, and glState |
| 05:15.52 | Patlabor221 | and a new one that uses the managers |
| 05:15.58 | DTRemenak | ah |
| 05:16.00 | Patlabor221 | sadly cus of glState they can't be mixed |
| 05:16.10 | Patlabor221 | but I haven't set any menu drawing in the new one |
| 05:16.21 | Patlabor221 | just finished the "camera" class |
| 05:17.16 | Patlabor221 | and I based it on the a frustum class, so it can be passed into anything that takes a frustum for culling |
| 05:17.26 | Patlabor221 | or you can manualy make a frustum and use the same methods |
| 05:18.23 | aliasnexus0_OSX | bzflag programmed in c++? |
| 05:18.26 | Patlabor221 | I still think the "blackhole" bullet screen shot was the coolest of the screwed up ones |
| 05:18.31 | Patlabor221 | yes bzflag is C++ |
| 05:19.51 | aliasnexus0_OSX | cool |
| 05:19.51 | aliasnexus0_OSX | i find it amazing yall can do that kind of stuff |
| 05:19.51 | aliasnexus0_OSX | basic programming was difficult for me to understand until i took a class, let alone implementing graphics |
| 05:20.08 | brlcad | aliasnexus0_OSX: and lots and lots of lisp running through a java vm on a mips simulator |
| 05:20.14 | Patlabor221 | openGL is the easy part :) |
| 05:20.17 | DTRemenak | haha |
| 05:20.41 | DTRemenak | Patlabor221: I'm glad someone thinks that ;) |
| 05:20.49 | Patlabor221 | it's just polygons |
| 05:21.36 | aliasnexus0_OSX | not sure what that means but dang :\ |
| 05:21.37 | trepan | Patlabor221: whatcha using for the managers' rendering? |
| 05:21.49 | Patlabor221 | openGL |
| 05:21.51 | Patlabor221 | gluSphere :) |
| 05:22.03 | Patlabor221 | only one drawable is implemented |
| 05:22.20 | DTRemenak | trepan: what are you working on? |
| 05:22.27 | Patlabor221 | this can probably never go into bz proper, so keep doing what your doing |
| 05:22.30 | trepan | http://members.rogers.com/trepan/tree.png, octrees in the ZScene manager |
| 05:22.38 | DTRemenak | yeah, keep working on it :) |
| 05:22.44 | trepan | tis almost done |
| 05:22.46 | Patlabor221 | too many of the options have been removed |
| 05:22.48 | aliasnexus0_OSX | if u don't mind me asking, where did yall learn all that you know to make this game? |
| 05:23.02 | Patlabor221 | aliasnexus0_OSX: we didn't make it |
| 05:23.06 | trepan | playboy magazine, i surprising resource for computing skills |
| 05:23.08 | brlcad | hamsters tell me what to do |
| 05:23.12 | aliasnexus0_OSX | haha |
| 05:23.16 | brlcad | and the voices in my head |
| 05:23.23 | Patlabor221 | trepan: I'm not even using the scenenodes :) |
| 05:23.23 | aliasnexus0_OSX | oh, well yall are talking about it from what im reading |
| 05:23.33 | Patlabor221 | we work on it usre |
| 05:23.40 | trepan | Patlabor221: lucky you, that's some very nasty code in there |
| 05:23.45 | Patlabor221 | yup |
| 05:23.51 | Patlabor221 | all sidesteped :) |
| 05:24.00 | brlcad | lan56: still stumped? or stop looking? |
| 05:24.02 | trepan | mostly becuase of the plane subdivs |
| 05:24.15 | lan56 | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:24.16 | Patlabor221 | my visual elements get made and added right when the obstacle is created |
| 05:24.21 | lan56 | and I have all the code cooked up too |
| 05:24.23 | DTRemenak | aliasnexus0_OSX: I learned some C from an ancient compiler's manuals (believe it or not). The rest, experimentation. |
| 05:24.24 | Patlabor221 | dont' even need a scene |
| 05:24.39 | Patlabor221 | oh and my scenenodes could move :) |
| 05:24.42 | brlcad | DTRemenak: so _that_ explains it *grin* |
| 05:24.45 | aliasnexus0_OSX | DTRemenak, thats cool that you learned a lot on your own |
| 05:24.47 | DTRemenak | oooh |
| 05:24.50 | brlcad | :) |
| 05:24.51 | DTRemenak | brlcad: yeah :) |
| 05:25.04 | aliasnexus0_OSX | last year i took a computer sci 1 class in java, was interesting to learn but programming is not my thing |
| 05:25.08 | aliasnexus0_OSX | wasn't very good at it |
| 05:25.10 | DTRemenak | that's where all the dumb mistakes come from - or at least some of them ;) |
| 05:25.16 | Patlabor221 | I learned about this game when I was told "your the only one who knows how directX works" |
| 05:25.18 | brlcad | at least I get my static data right *cough* :) |
| 05:25.26 | aliasnexus0_OSX | hahah |
| 05:25.27 | lan56 | aliasnexus: how did you do on the AP test? :) |
| 05:25.33 | DTRemenak | heh :) |
| 05:25.40 | aliasnexus0_OSX | lan56, i was in 9th grade |
| 05:25.45 | aliasnexus0_OSX | no ap test |
| 05:25.54 | lan56 | dang! how smart are you? |
| 05:25.58 | aliasnexus0_OSX | lool |
| 05:26.03 | lan56 | around here, you have to complete geometry before CS |
| 05:26.10 | aliasnexus0_OSX | i was in geometry then |
| 05:26.25 | lan56 | that means you took algebra 1 in 8th grade |
| 05:26.28 | aliasnexus0_OSX | yep |
| 05:26.30 | DTRemenak | lan56: I took geometry in 9th grade, what of it? |
| 05:27.14 | aliasnexus0_OSX | haha |
| 05:27.15 | trepan | Patlabor221: so your not going to commit your stuff? i was kinda worried about conflicts, because i have split Frustum/ViewFrustum up too, and a whole bunch of changes to SceneNode entry points |
| 05:27.18 | Patlabor221 | trepan: looks like I'm gonna have to do a lighting manager too |
| 05:27.19 | lan56 | well, from what I know, it's 6th grade normal math, then in 7th, still normal math, then in 8th grade algebra 1, then in 9th geometry, then in 10 CS |
| 05:27.22 | Patlabor221 | trepan: I can't |
| 05:27.29 | lan56 | I meant to say algebra 1 in 7th grade, my mistake |
| 05:27.32 | Patlabor221 | I pulled allmost every 3d option |
| 05:27.37 | DTRemenak | trepan: your stuff is committable, his isn't |
| 05:27.41 | lan56 | either way, not a problem that matters |
| 05:27.42 | Patlabor221 | this isn't made for the softies |
| 05:27.47 | trepan | Patlabor221: lighting? heh, shaders... if you ain't got em, piss off |
| 05:27.48 | aliasnexus0_OSX | lan56 are u saying CS takes up the math spot in 10th? |
| 05:27.55 | trepan | no more subdivs crap, bloody nuissance |
| 05:27.56 | Patlabor221 | lighting != shaders |
| 05:27.59 | lan56 | no, CS as an elective |
| 05:28.02 | trepan | per pixel = shaders |
| 05:28.03 | aliasnexus0_OSX | oh ok |
| 05:28.05 | aliasnexus0_OSX | was just checking |
| 05:28.07 | Patlabor221 | no I mean light sources |
| 05:28.12 | lan56 | I don't know, I don't go to school :) |
| 05:28.17 | aliasnexus0_OSX | hehe |
| 05:28.18 | Patlabor221 | aka glowy things |
| 05:28.37 | Patlabor221 | tho shader based visual elements can be registerd |
| 05:28.50 | Patlabor221 | and you could make shader and non shader versions of them |
| 05:28.55 | aliasnexus0_OSX | its cool hearing yall talk how Patlabor is, i find it cool :P |
| 05:29.02 | aliasnexus0_OSX | even though i have no idea what it is |
| 05:29.08 | lan56 | do they still offer latin in schools? |
| 05:29.12 | aliasnexus0_OSX | i think so |
| 05:29.19 | Patlabor221 | shaders are vertex and fragment programs |
| 05:29.22 | aliasnexus0_OSX | my school i think they do |
| 05:29.23 | brlcad | lan56: search for KEYMGR in src/bzflag .. that's a start |
| 05:29.38 | brlcad | need to feed the key manager a callback to your funcion .. register your key |
| 05:29.41 | trepan | Patlabor221: you planning to hook in Ogre on your gfx managers? |
| 05:29.47 | lan56 | brlcad: I have, and I get results |
| 05:29.51 | lan56 | and I registered the key |
| 05:29.53 | lan56 | but nothing |
| 05:30.03 | lan56 | in actionbinding.cxx |
| 05:30.05 | Patlabor221 | trepan: not initaly, but it would not be hard |
| 05:30.07 | Patlabor221 | not hard at all |
| 05:30.15 | brlcad | then your hook isn't doing what it needs to .. |
| 05:30.20 | lan56 | and clientCommands.cxx |
| 05:30.23 | trepan | cool, then i'm off to finish this silly thing |
| 05:30.23 | Patlabor221 | the big thing is geting this crap seperated |
| 05:32.02 | brlcad | lan56: use hud->setAlert for starters and get the name to show up as an alert |
| 05:32.10 | brlcad | in clientCommands.cxx |
| 05:32.16 | lan56 | will do |
| 05:32.54 | aliasnexus0_OSX | so are yall working on building the game right now? |
| 05:32.55 | brlcad | when you get that working you'll know that the binding was successful, the callback is being made, and the player lookup is correct |
| 05:33.08 | aliasnexus0_OSX | or something else? |
| 05:33.24 | lan56 | aliasnexus: yes |
| 05:33.28 | brlcad | lan56: then you 'll need to simulate the keyboard input, or talk directly to the text input |
| 05:33.36 | aliasnexus0_OSX | ah ok, sry to bother yall, was just curious |
| 05:33.41 | lan56 | np |
| 05:33.43 | lan56 | no bother at all |
| 05:33.45 | aliasnexus0_OSX | =) |
| 05:33.53 | lan56 | brlcad: I was thinking of just imitating the other commands :) |
| 05:33.56 | brlcad | aliasnexus0_OSX: there's a mix of devs and players in here |
| 05:34.00 | aliasnexus0_OSX | ohh ok |
| 05:34.04 | Patlabor221 | and fish |
| 05:34.07 | aliasnexus0_OSX | lol |
| 05:34.08 | lan56 | with me being the star dev, then everybody else is mixed :) |
| 05:34.14 | brlcad | it's nighttime for most of us, which is when the devs tend to come to life in the US |
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| 05:34.24 | aliasnexus0_OSX | yeah its 12 pmm here |
| 05:34.26 | Patlabor221 | vanity is a sin |
| 05:34.26 | aliasnexus0_OSX | pm* |
| 05:34.30 | lan56 | ahh man, explain!! :) |
| 05:34.41 | brlcad | lan56: still seeing stars? :) |
| 05:34.50 | lan56 | stars are in my eyes :) |
| 05:35.03 | Patlabor221 | I can show you the boot in your eyes |
| 05:35.17 | lan56 | I already got the boot in my eyes |
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| 05:40.49 | lan56 | someone remind timriker that ibot seems to crash when reporting quotes on index funds |
| 05:41.01 | lan56 | well, not crash but return awkward data |
| 06:05.16 | Patlabor221 | grrr... why is the mainwindow not a singleton |
| 06:35.58 | aliasnexus0_OSX | night everyone |
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