| 00:00.09 | Noodleman | i wonder if there's some kind of thing like apt-get for the zaurus |
| 00:00.23 | DTRemenak | pawh: up near the top of regex.h is "#if !defined(__P)" and a bunch of lines before the matching "#endif" - delete them all :o |
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| 00:01.03 | DTRemenak | one of them is "#define const /**/" which is killing the constness of the regex function definitions |
| 00:01.39 | learner | ahh.. good catch.. |
| 00:02.48 | pawh | Oh yea, new ones ;) |
| 00:03.26 | scanline | Noodleman: ipkg is a lot like apt-get |
| 00:03.50 | pawh | DTRemenak, but think i can work these out.. __P in regcomp.c to |
| 00:04.01 | DTRemenak | heh |
| 00:04.23 | DTRemenak | why, indeed there are |
| 00:04.34 | DTRemenak | kill them too, same as regex.h |
| 00:04.42 | pawh | Working on that! |
| 00:04.59 | learner | ah, bah.. you on that already dtr? or should i? |
| 00:05.06 | DTRemenak | I got it |
| 00:05.11 | learner | k, thx ;) |
| 00:06.49 | DTRemenak | heh, there are more too |
| 00:07.03 | DTRemenak | engine.c and regerror.c |
| 00:07.12 | pawh | maybe time for some sed awk magic.. |
| 00:07.13 | pawh | :) |
| 00:07.44 | DTRemenak | heh, VC++ has a real nice "Replace within selection" function :) |
| 00:08.35 | pawh | vi sure have some nifty functions, but i dont have a memory big as someting bigger then my memory :) |
| 00:08.48 | learner | M-x replace-string |
| 00:09.29 | CIA-1 | BZFlag: 03dtremenak * 10bzflag/src/regex/ (regerror.c regcomp.c engine.c): continue forgetting about k&r compatiblity |
| 00:09.58 | learner | even better.. M-x replace-regexp __P(\(.*\)) \1 |
| 00:10.17 | pawh | learner, emacs? |
| 00:10.23 | learner | but of course |
| 00:10.27 | DTRemenak | heh |
| 00:10.29 | CIA-1 | BZFlag: 03dtremenak 07v1_10branch * 10bzflag/src/regex/ (engine.c regcomp.c regerror.c): continue forgetting about k&r compatiblity - fixes from HEAD |
| 00:10.30 | scanline | what else would you use? :P |
| 00:10.35 | pawh | eh.. :) |
| 00:11.41 | learner | http://db.brlcad.org/tmp/emacsman.jpg |
| 00:11.49 | DTRemenak | heh |
| 00:12.01 | scanline | hehe |
| 00:13.06 | pawh | Not funny :) |
| 00:13.49 | DTRemenak | people who use vi don't waste their time on silly comics :) |
| 00:15.04 | lan56 | heh, that is pretty funny |
| 00:16.06 | pawh | Yes, and so the build goes on :) Among the trickiest build ive ever done of bzflag :) |
| 00:16.27 | DTRemenak | heh, that's what happens after a year of portrot |
| 00:18.50 | guu | New news from matches: Jul 15 00:12 => The Barbarians:5, Donjon's Ugly Beasts (DUB):3 |
| 00:19.27 | pawh | knewed i could do that in vi to :%s/Source/Destination/ Replace regular expression Source in the text by Destination doing at most one substitution per line. |
| 00:20.02 | pawh | build finnished :) |
| 00:20.10 | DTRemenak | ahh, cool |
| 00:22.11 | learner | you're only so lucky on solaris as you're using g++ .. solaris' compiler would be less forgiving I'd bet |
| 00:22.34 | DTRemenak | hah, no kidding |
| 00:22.51 | learner | of all compilers.. that is by far my least favorite |
| 00:22.56 | pawh | solaris have no compiler, but sun does sell one.. for alot of hard earned money |
| 00:23.09 | learner | i meant sun's |
| 00:23.13 | pawh | ah |
| 00:23.41 | learner | when I work on ensuring portability .. sun always gives me the most trouble |
| 00:24.02 | learner | heck even vc6 gives me less trouble usually |
| 00:24.16 | pawh | Hehe, cant find any binaries :) |
| 00:24.20 | DTRemenak | heh, try vc5 :) |
| 00:24.32 | DTRemenak | pawh: did you do "make install"? |
| 00:24.38 | pawh | jepp |
| 00:24.54 | DTRemenak | shouldn't need to find them then, should be in the path :) |
| 00:25.02 | learner | ls -la src/bzfs/bzfs |
| 00:25.16 | pawh | found it |
| 00:25.20 | DTRemenak | yeah, you'll have copies in the source tree too |
| 00:25.35 | pawh | But it wont start :) |
| 00:25.41 | learner | ? |
| 00:25.46 | DTRemenak | what does it do? |
| 00:26.09 | pawh | not much.. dosent give any load and dosnt bring up anything |
| 00:26.18 | DTRemenak | hah, http://www.darryl.com/viman.gif |
| 00:26.52 | DTRemenak | pawh: you're trying bzfs? |
| 00:27.08 | pawh | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:27.25 | DTRemenak | it's running, then |
| 00:27.31 | pawh | jepp but sleeping |
| 00:27.42 | pawh | never in actualy run state |
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| 00:39.37 | learner | what does bzfs -d -d -d output |
| 00:42.07 | pawh | iam quite stupid right now i think.. bzfls waiting for connections |
| 00:44.17 | learner | bzfls? or bzfs? |
| 00:44.30 | learner | bzfs will sit waiting for a connection |
| 00:44.39 | learner | simple test is to telnet localhost 5154 |
| 00:44.43 | pawh | i have no bzfls |
| 00:47.14 | pawh | But the worst thing is i have no bzflag |
| 00:54.41 | pawh | learner, i have OpenGL suport, how do I convince configure that i have :) ? |
| 01:04.37 | learner | well, the easiest way is to remove the check from configure.in |
| 01:05.20 | learner | the more involved way is to add ./configure CXXFLAGS="-I/usr/X11/...etc..." so that configure finds your gl headers |
| 01:07.18 | pawh | wich gl headers is needed? |
| 01:07.18 | learner | gl.h for starters |
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| 01:07.18 | pawh | starters? |
| 01:07.48 | learner | several are needed.. but they should all be together |
| 01:08.55 | pawh | have 7 files in /usr/include/GL/ gl.h glmacros glu.h glx.h and so on.. |
| 01:16.12 | learner | hrm |
| 01:17.08 | learner | can you send me your config.log file? |
| 01:17.40 | pawh | can try, behind NAT |
| 01:17.42 | learner | I'll see if I can make a quick configure.in to replace yours |
| 01:17.50 | learner | e-mail it |
| 01:34.48 | learner | pawh, I think I see the problem.. |
| 01:34.59 | pawh | okey? |
| 01:35.07 | learner | try http://bzflag.bz/tmp/configure.in |
| 01:36.03 | pawh | just run make now? |
| 01:36.27 | learner | ./autogen.sh |
| 01:36.40 | learner | need to then rerun configure |
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| 01:39.15 | learner | ack.. missed a line |
| 01:39.41 | learner | pull the configure.in again |
| 01:40.01 | pawh | okie |
| 01:41.56 | pawh | something went wrong |
| 01:42.08 | pawh | /usr/local/share/aclocal/libxslt.m4:14: warning: underquoted definition of AM_PATH_XSLT |
| 01:42.08 | pawh | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:42.57 | learner | that's a warning |
| 01:43.09 | pawh | Ah missed m4.. gona fetch that |
| 01:46.53 | pawh | how long time shuld autogen.sh take? |
| 01:51.05 | pawh | its been run for quite some time now.. and it makes no output... |
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| 01:58.36 | MacLinux | how do you set up a server on MacOS X? |
| 01:59.33 | learner | MacLinux, same as linux/*bsd .. bzfs is inside the application bundle |
| 01:59.51 | learner | pawh, hrm.. should just be a few seconds |
| 01:59.54 | MacLinux | what is bzfs? |
| 02:00.02 | pawh | strange |
| 02:00.10 | learner | bzflagserver |
| 02:00.37 | MacLinux | ok |
| 02:00.44 | learner | there are details on the website and on bzbb on what specific steps you can take |
| 02:00.51 | MacLinux | what do i do with it, when i opened it it said, "Unable to start server" |
| 02:00.57 | learner | bzflag.org/wiki/ and bzbb.bzflag.org |
| 02:01.15 | MacLinux | what about config |
| 02:01.24 | MacLinux | where is the bzfs.conf file? |
| 02:01.33 | learner | there's no point-and-click way to run the bzflag server -- you'll have to configure it properly |
| 02:01.43 | learner | it's not a "simple" process |
| 02:01.59 | learner | you have to make the your own config file |
| 02:02.49 | MacLinux | where would i put it once i created it? |
| 02:03.09 | learner | where ever you like |
| 02:03.21 | MacLinux | then how does the bzfs know ehre it is? |
| 02:03.23 | learner | there's an example on here: http://bzflag.bz/tmp/bzfs.conf |
| 02:03.29 | learner | you have to tell bzfs where it is |
| 02:03.49 | MacLinux | how? |
| 02:03.51 | learner | http://bzflag.bz/man/ .. see the bzfs man page |
| 02:03.56 | MacLinux | k |
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| 02:03.59 | learner | -conf option |
| 02:04.07 | MacLinux | is there an easier way to do a private local server? |
| 02:04.15 | learner | ./bzfs -help also lists all the options |
| 02:04.18 | learner | sure |
| 02:04.32 | learner | you can use the "Start Server" menu option in the client |
| 02:04.52 | learner | it limits what kind of server you can run -- but it'll do most of the work for you |
| 02:05.32 | MacLinux | i tried that and nothing happened |
| 02:05.47 | MacLinux | it just said "server started" |
| 02:05.50 | MacLinux | how would i join it? |
| 02:05.57 | learner | it should be in your join game menu |
| 02:06.03 | MacLinux | ya i found it |
| 02:06.09 | MacLinux | but can you join your own game? |
| 02:06.17 | learner | sure |
| 02:06.22 | learner | so can others on your local subnet |
| 02:06.26 | lan56 | excuse me for interrupting, but what description does it start with? |
| 02:06.33 | lan56 | blank description? |
| 02:06.34 | learner | that server is not visible outside your network, but inside it may be |
| 02:07.00 | learner | lan56, yeah -- just the name of the server which should be the local host name |
| 02:07.14 | lan56 | ahh ty |
| 02:07.15 | lan56 | continue |
| 02:07.28 | learner | Nidhoggr: *ping* |
| 02:07.37 | learner | lan56, you might like this too.. |
| 02:07.44 | lan56 | alright, ready |
| 02:07.46 | learner | got better stats on the network tweak fixed |
| 02:07.58 | learner | http://bzflag.bz/usage/tolerance_tweak/ |
| 02:08.04 | lan56 | wow, I gotta see this |
| 02:08.31 | pawh | learner, think i did the trick.. cd src/bzflag;make bzflag |
| 02:08.58 | MacLinux | but again i selected "start server" and nothing happened |
| 02:09.08 | lan56 | those graphs look much better than the older ones |
| 02:09.11 | MacLinux | how do i join my own game |
| 02:09.13 | learner | MacLinux: you only start the server once |
| 02:09.24 | learner | then just select the server in the join game menu |
| 02:09.24 | MacLinux | but once it's started how do i play? |
| 02:09.32 | MacLinux | hm ok |
| 02:09.34 | MacLinux | i'll try that |
| 02:09.51 | learner | otherwise .. just put "localhost" in for the host and 5154 for the port number |
| 02:10.52 | learner | woo hoo.. g5 imac in two months |
| 02:14.30 | learner | lan56, the inbound and outbound ones are the most interesting.. |
| 02:15.40 | lan56 | I'd say those are the only ones |
| 02:16.05 | lan56 | but there are so interesting |
| 02:16.16 | lan56 | I can really tell a difference between the tweak and non tweak |
| 02:16.20 | learner | i mean instead of the perplayer ones |
| 02:16.25 | lan56 | ahh |
| 02:17.25 | learner | http://bzflag.bz/usage/tolerance_tweak/secretplace_outbound.png should be one of the most interesting |
| 02:17.41 | lan56 | it is, I saw it |
| 02:17.44 | learner | that 50000 line is about your connection rate |
| 02:17.54 | lan56 | I'd say so |
| 02:18.31 | learner | so where you previously would stoke your connection around 9 players on average .. now it'll be around 12 players on average |
| 02:18.47 | lan56 | you mean, if I started a server? |
| 02:19.07 | lan56 | before, I'd stoke my connection at 4 players if I ran my own servers |
| 02:19.21 | lan56 | everyone would go NR, and lag would skyrocket |
| 02:19.42 | The_Viper | is patlabor here? |
