irclog2html for #bzflag on 20040614

`00:00.39`	`lan56`	`and more over, one of the power lines exploded the other day on the road here, so the electric company is working on it, but they said I won't have electricity till tommorow, and the power went out yesterday`
`00:00.46`	`[6yob]`	`lol haha my local ip has changed from 100 to 101! goh:)`
`00:01.03`	`lan56`	`so I don't have electricity, and I don't have internet access`
`00:01.25`	`[6yob]`	`:)`
`00:01.34`	`lan56`	`what are you laughing at fat boy? :))))`
`00:01.41`	`lan56`	`just kidding :)`
`00:01.57`	`lan56`	`heh, of course I have ISP and electric, how else would I be on here?!?!? :)`
`00:02.43`	`[6yob]`	`lol,m that did the trick check it now lol btw spelling is bad in that i wrote it when i was like 12 and just now slapted it on a nice template fro show :)`
`00:02.52`	`[6yob]`	`ha`
`00:03.01`	`[6yob]`	`:)`
`00:03.16`	`[6yob]`	`neat template eh?`
`00:03.19`	`[6yob]`	`plain..`
`00:03.21`	`[6yob]`	`and clean`
`00:03.36`	`[6yob]`	`and no links work of coarse`
`00:03.38`	`lan56`	`nice template, I still don't know what its about :)`
`00:03.44`	`[6yob]`	`lol`
`00:03.48`	`lan56`	`or what you are selling :)`
`00:03.50`	`[6yob]`	`i know like i said 12:)`
`00:03.54`	`[6yob]`	`lol`
`00:04.27`	`[6yob]`	`lol i had 3 others..hangon`
`00:04.36`	`lan56`	`it looks like you let your cat run across the keyboard, and thats the output`
`00:05.34`	`[6yob]`	`lol:D`
`00:05.53`	`[6yob]`	`yeah i now its all trash i was 12 and stupid as a monkey..`
`00:06.06`	`lan56`	`you mean you changed?`
`00:06.06`	`[6yob]`	`btw, seen my avatar on the forums`
`00:06.12`	`lan56`	`yes`
`00:06.14`	`lan56`	`a monkey`
`00:06.38`	`[6yob]`	`u like it`
`00:06.43`	`lan56`	`not really`
`00:06.44`	`lan56`	`:)`
`00:06.48`	`[6yob]`	`the monkeyt hat is`
`00:06.54`	`[6yob]`	`come on he is typing`
`00:06.57`	`[6yob]`	`ha`
`00:07.03`	`lan56`	`I dont know, I guess its ok`
`00:07.13`	`lan56`	`its a picture! I dont have feelings toward it! :)`
`00:07.13`	`[6yob]`	`heh, well i try:)`
`00:07.19`	`[6yob]`	`:)`
`00:07.32`	`lan56`	`tell it to the judge`
`00:08.00`	`lan56`	`hey 6yob`
`00:08.37`	`[6yob]`	`yes?`
`00:08.42`	`lan56`	`nothing.`
`00:08.52`	`[6yob]`	`what now had to be somen:)`
`00:09.05`	`[6yob]`	`ok,ok im 15:)`
`00:09.09`	`[6yob]`	`not 6 lol`
`00:09.27`	`[6yob]`	`"somen";)`
`00:09.36`	`lan56`	`so, whats that from stupid->english?`
`00:09.42`	`lan56`	`:)`
`00:11.14`	`[6yob]`	`sry had some folks over for a sec lol its ebonics;`
`00:11.17`	`[6yob]`	`:)`
`00:11.30`	`lan56`	`np`
`00:16.54`	`[6yob]`	`SportChick, what the bzbb site codede in? php?`
`00:17.19`	`lan56`	`yes, phpBB is what it is`
`00:17.52`	`[6yob]`	`ok thanks`
`00:17.53`	`lan56`	`I apologize, forgot about the "sportchick" there`
`00:17.59`	`GeekTechnica`	`its an open source project called phpBB, it is a PHP front end and a MySQL database backend`
`00:18.06`	`lan56`	`copy cat`
`00:18.08`	`lan56`	`:)`
`00:18.10`	`SportChick`	`don't apologize...saved me an answer`
`00:18.23`	`GeekTechnica`	`well I added some ;)`
`00:18.28`	`lan56`	`ok, then I am glad I stole it, it felt really good to do it ;)`
`00:18.38`	`[6yob]`	`lol`
`00:18.44`	`[6yob]`	`it was a open question`
`00:18.48`	`lan56`	`I apologize again, I am getting a bit fresh, I dont mean to`
`00:18.55`	`[6yob]`	`thought sport would be the first to know:O)`
`00:19.03`	`lan56`	`o:)`
`00:19.13`	`lan56`	`I:)`
`00:19.22`	`[6yob]`	`gezzlol`
`00:20.30`	`lan56`	`heh, its a funny story, I should have mentioned this the other day when SportChick was looking for laughs: ....`
`00:20.55`	`lan56`	`back in my college days, the people at the college explained the punishments for going into the girls' dorm building`
`00:21.32`	`lan56`	`so they said, "its a $30 fine for once, $60 for the second, $90 for the third" and my friend interrupts and says, "how much for a season pass?"`
`00:21.45`	`[6yob]`	`lol`
`00:22.05`	`SportChick`	`heh`
`00:22.17`	`lan56`	`so, which one of you faked the laugh? :)`
`00:22.44`	`SportChick`	`not I...I just repeated it for my husband, even`
`00:22.57`	`lan56`	`lol, I think I faked the laugh :)`
`00:22.57`	`[6yob]`	`it ia quite funny`
`00:23.01`	`[6yob]`	`:)`
`00:23.10`	`[6yob]`	`haha..`
`00:23.13`	`orchid`	`hi SportChick`
`00:23.19`	`SportChick`	`hiya orchid`
`00:23.30`	`SportChick`	`thanks for all the advice on bloggers. I ended up using "Blogger"`
`00:23.43`	`orchid`	`yeah i read :)`
`00:23.54`	`orchid`	`SportChick: you like it?>`
`00:23.59`	`SportChick`	`so far so good`
`00:24.01`	`orchid`	`cu lurgy\|away`
`00:24.07`	`[6yob]`	`heh..`
`00:24.16`	`SportChick`	`it took a bit of finagling to get my template in there, but I like it now`
`00:24.52`	`orchid`	`blogger is a hosted one?`
`00:25.32`	`SportChick`	`I think you CAN do hosted, but we didn't`
`00:25.48`	`[6yob]`	`usinfg xhtml SportChick`
`00:25.51`	`[6yob]`	`?`
`00:25.55`	`*** part/#bzflag Tupone (~Tupone@ppp-82-84-123-153.cust-adsl.tiscali.it)`
`00:26.41`	`SportChick`	`what was that 6yob? for what?`
`00:26.41`	`[6yob]`	`on your site?`
`00:26.47`	`[6yob]`	`for you site`
`00:27.12`	`SportChick`	`Noodleman, just html`
`00:27.15`	`SportChick`	`no`
`00:27.21`	`SportChick`	`(not noodleman)`
`00:28.02`	`[6yob]`	`lol`
`00:28.33`	`[6yob]`	`ok html, i WOULD suggest xhtml it tends to be cleaner`
`00:28.41`	`[6yob]`	`but i mself use html..`
`00:28.53`	`SportChick`	`I don't think xhtml is totally compatible across platforms yet`
`00:28.55`	`[6yob]`	`because i lack some info on x`
`00:28.56`	`SportChick`	`is it?`
`00:29.12`	`[6yob]`	`ahh..if not pretty close`
`00:30.42`	`SportChick`	`sigh...if you've opened the blog, reload`
`00:31.43`	`fiberchunks`	`xhtml is compatible fine -- it's the CSS that you use for presentation that has issues in certain browsers (namely, IE).`
`00:34.44`	`[6yob]`	`what do you guys want from a bzflag site if i may ask?`
`00:34.58`	`fiberchunks`	`pizza delivery`
`00:35.02`	`[6yob]`	`:)`
`00:35.02`	`lan56`	`cheats`
`00:35.04`	`lan56`	`:)`
`00:35.07`	`[6yob]`	`9.95 sir:)`
`00:35.13`	`[6yob]`	`large 1 toping?`
`00:35.26`	`[6yob]`	`cheats..*notes`
`00:35.35`	`GeekTechnica`	`pepperoni and pinapple for mine please`
`00:35.38`	`DTRemenak`	`lan56: seems to me knightmare had one of those a while back :)`
`00:35.43`	`lan56`	`he still does`
`00:35.45`	`lan56`	`I think`
`00:35.47`	`lan56`	`I checked it out`
`00:35.56`	`DTRemenak`	`it had disappeared last time I checked on it`
`00:36.07`	`[6yob]`	`oh yeah pinapples..love um..`
`00:36.11`	`lan56`	`he actually had some pretty neat cheats on their, but really none that I didn't invent :)`
`00:36.17`	`[6yob]`	`good choice..`
`00:36.51`	`lan56`	`its called ordering`
`00:36.52`	`[6yob]`	`lol, i was thinking the same thing..`
`00:36.52`	`GeekTechnica`	`haven't had a good one since I left new york :(`
`00:36.58`	`[6yob]`	`i want a pizza so bad now thanks:)`
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`00:37.35`	`[6yob]`	`HEH, I HAVE A PIZZA IN THE FRIDGE:)`
`00:37.42`	`[6yob]`	`oops sryg guys`
`00:37.51`	`[6yob]`	`pinky sliped..`
`00:37.56`	`GeekTechnica`	`I have a few frozen ones in the freezer, but they don't count`
`00:38.08`	`[6yob]`	`yeah, you said good right?;)`
`00:38.08`	`DTRemenak`	`eew, frozen pizza`
`00:38.57`	`lan56`	`heh, when you think about it, a tic tac toe program is a good beginner's thing to make if they want to learn AI`
`00:39.04`	`[6yob]`	`ok i am hungry now:\`
`00:39.32`	`[6yob]`	`well u can m ake a tic tac toe program without AI:)`
`00:39.37`	`[6yob]`	`with perl:)`
`00:39.39`	`[6yob]`	`or c...`
`00:39.46`	`lan56`	`thats called "bad`
`00:40.01`	`[6yob]`	`it would be like a 40 line progrm granted longer..`
`00:40.12`	`[6yob]`	`heh,`
`00:40.30`	`lan56`	`the only problem is that with AI in games, the computer will always win if it is a good algorithm and enough time is given`
`00:40.37`	`lan56`	`GNU chess is unbeatable`
`00:40.46`	`lan56`	`the moves are too good on the computers part`
`00:40.57`	`mebigfatguy`	`ttt is to simple for ai`
`00:41.10`	`lan56`	`thats why I said its for beginners ;)`
`00:41.18`	`mebigfatguy`	`an algorithmic approach is unbeatable`
`00:41.35`	`mebigfatguy`	`rather than a learning-based one`
`00:41.36`	`lan56`	`instead of a heuristic?`
`00:41.38`	`lan56`	`ahh`
`00:42.48`	`lan56`	`I wonder why nobody makes an AI checkers`
`00:43.00`	`mebigfatguy`	`a good begiiners ai proggy is rock/paper/scissors`
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`00:43.22`	`lan56`	`no, because no intelligence is needed to play, humans guess as to which one to draw`
`00:43.44`	`mebigfatguy`	`a proggy can learn your patterns`
`00:43.49`	`lan56`	`ahh`
`00:43.52`	`lan56`	`now thats a program`
`00:44.03`	`mebigfatguy`	`as most people will unconciously have them`
`00:44.45`	`lan56`	`AI that is programmed to learn by example, and use it to its advantage, is really using a heuristic when it makes use of what it learned`
`00:45.20`	`lan56`	`no matter how many times rock is given in a row, the computer will still guess that the human will do rock again`
`00:45.26`	`mebigfatguy`	`well its the definition of a neural net, after all`
`00:45.30`	`lan56`	`true`
`00:45.45`	`mebigfatguy`	`not necessareily`
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`00:47.59`	`[6yob]`	`http://delca.itu.dk/ a VERY complex AI they have these guys responding to humans and looking across the net for voices;)`
`00:48.01`	`[6yob]`	`neato!`
`00:48.10`	`[6yob]`	`found this along time ago`
`00:48.13`	`[6yob]`	`quite coool`
`01:01.22`	`SportChick`	`sigh...after a lot of fix it fix it fix it over again, but now it finally works.`
`01:02.02`	`lan56`	`what are you cooking?`
`01:14.28`	`lan56`	`I am thinking I might compile xchat on my own, maybe mod it up a bit`
`01:15.07`	`GeekTechnica`	`lan56, I believe it was you who recommended xchat to me, thanks a ton! it is great`
`01:15.08`	`lan56`	`I remember when I did the same thing for bzadmin--I used it, and thought its easy project, so I did compile it on my own and I did add some junk to it`
`01:15.16`	`lan56`	`np geektechnica`
`01:16.13`	`lan56`	`at the time, I mean, bzadmin wasn't really much, just a few messages were implemented, so I added alot more, and added a few other things that clients didn't have, and I remember I kept being the cool kid on the block`
`01:16.21`	`lan56`	`I had it tell me who requested client query`
`01:16.34`	`lan56`	`and I kept saying "it was magic" because at the time it never told you`
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`01:17.39`	`Patlabor221`	`xchat is the one true irc`
`01:17.50`	`Patlabor221`	`tho geting gtk to build on windows is "fun"`
`01:17.56`	`lan56`	`there is a new version release June 4`
`01:18.00`	`GeekTechnica`	`bah.. who needs an @ when you have a little green dot`
`01:18.11`	`lan56`	`I know how you feel, compiling something by yourself is alot of fun`
`01:18.21`	`Patlabor221`	`no I mean it's a PITA`
`01:19.46`	`lan56`	`dang 7 kb/sec on my modem for xchat source download`
`01:19.51`	`lan56`	`thats fast!`
`01:21.05`	`lan56`	`I hope xchat is written in C, C projects are always easier to fix errors in, and they compile faster on GCC`
`01:26.28`	`lan56`	`phew, its made from C, this is going to be easy to get it to compile`
`01:27.18`	`Patlabor221`	`7`
`01:27.19`	`Patlabor221`	`wow`
`01:27.32`	`lan56`	`7 what?`
`01:27.35`	`Patlabor221`	`I cancel downloads less then 100k :)`
`01:27.47`	`lan56`	`you're just spoiled :)`
`01:27.49`	`Patlabor221`	`you need the GTK libs too`
`01:27.55`	`lan56`	`it comes with it`
`01:28.00`	`lan56`	`in /src/`
`01:28.03`	`Patlabor221`	`no, I just use the internet more then you`
`01:28.06`	`Patlabor221`	`ahh cool`
`01:28.13`	`lan56`	`no you dont`
`01:28.15`	`lan56`	`:)`
`01:28.24`	`Patlabor221`	`what was the last 200+ meg file you got?`
`01:28.38`	`Patlabor221`	`or the last file your personal webserver hosted?`
`01:28.43`	`lan56`	`well, I never did that stuff :)`
`01:28.57`	`lan56`	`but I downloaded slackware linux, 40mb, in two hours :)`
`01:29.09`	`Patlabor221`	`I got a debian iso in 10 min`
`01:29.15`	`lan56`	`show-off :)`
`01:29.29`	`Patlabor221`	`I got the net connection I wanted`
`01:29.32`	`Patlabor221`	`that's all`
`01:29.37`	`Patlabor221`	`you could have it too`
`01:29.43`	`Patlabor221`	`probably don't cost much more then your paying now`
`01:29.46`	`GeekTechnica`	`where do you get your connection from patlabor?`
`01:29.47`	`lan56`	`nah, I am fine with this`
`01:29.58`	`Patlabor221`	`then what you have works for your low bandwith uses`
`01:30.03`	`GeekTechnica`	`I've got a 3mb roadrunner connection, about $44/month`
`01:30.09`	`Patlabor221`	`I could not do all the things I wanted to do on dialup`
`01:30.16`	`Patlabor221`	`GeekTechnica: I pay a buck more for mine`
`01:30.19`	`GeekTechnica`	`oh lord, I'll never go back to dialup`
`01:30.28`	`GeekTechnica`	`where?`
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`01:30.31`	`Patlabor221`	`sbc`
`01:30.39`	`Patlabor221`	`dsl`
`01:30.40`	`Patlabor221`	`non shared`
`01:31.01`	`Patlabor221`	`tho I only get 6 megs cus the RT is under my house`