| 00:00.13 | Patlabor221 | what are you building? |
| 00:00.17 | shorty114 | i've compiled, wat now anyone? |
| 00:00.17 | shorty114 | how do i run it? |
| 00:00.18 | shorty114 | 1.11.x |
| 00:00.21 | shorty114 | for the first time |
| 00:00.24 | Patlabor221 | like you run all other things |
| 00:00.26 | Patlabor221 | what OS? |
| 00:00.29 | shorty114 | ur looking at a n00b |
| 00:00.31 | shorty114 | macosx |
| 00:00.40 | Patlabor221 | same way you run the other one |
| 00:00.45 | Patlabor221 | ether command prompt or go find it |
| 00:00.53 | Patlabor221 | it's porbably in src/bzflag/ |
| 00:01.16 | shorty114 | HELP!!! |
| 00:01.24 | Patlabor221 | I just told oyu |
| 00:01.26 | shorty114 | all sorts of stuff in src/bzflag |
| 00:01.34 | Patlabor221 | one is probably called bzflag |
| 00:01.58 | shorty114 | data path is "/Users/robinadrianse/cvs/bzflag/src/bzflag" |
| 00:01.58 | shorty114 | loading fixedmr |
| 00:01.58 | shorty114 | Can't continue without font: fixedmr |
| 00:01.58 | shorty114 | Failed to load resource because the 'data' |
| 00:01.58 | shorty114 | directory can't be found. Please run bzflag |
| 00:02.00 | shorty114 | with the data directory as the current directory |
| 00:02.02 | shorty114 | or provide the location of the data directory |
| 00:02.04 | shorty114 | using the -directory command line option. |
| 00:02.22 | Patlabor221 | ether move it out to the root dir, or add in a command line to point it to the data dir |
| 00:02.36 | Patlabor221 | easyast just to copy it up to the install dir where data is |
| 00:03.46 | shorty114 | COOOOOOOL |
| 00:03.52 | shorty114 | i like the leave game option on menu |
| 00:04.02 | shorty114 | also the bzflag logo is COOOOOOL now |
| 00:04.37 | learner | youngin's .. so easy to please :) |
| 00:04.44 | shorty114 | wowowowow |
| 00:05.34 | Patlabor221 | it changed? |
| 00:05.47 | learner | shorty114, if you copy the data/alternate directory into the BZFlag application bundle, it'll look the same in 1.10.6 too |
| 00:05.48 | shorty114 | never did 1.11.x |
| 00:05.59 | shorty114 | oh |
| 00:06.10 | shorty114 | i only have 1.10.4 is macosx 1.10.6 out yet? |
| 00:06.14 | learner | yes |
| 00:06.21 | shorty114 | ok |
| 00:06.24 | shorty114 | i'll dl it... |
| 00:06.44 | learner | same still goes for 1.10.4, though .. put the data/alternate dir into the app bundle Resources dir |
| 00:07.06 | SportChick | I have an odd question for you all |
| 00:07.16 | shorty114 | ok |
| 00:07.21 | Banks | ooo |
| 00:07.22 | shorty114 | (learner) |
| 00:07.41 | SportChick | I'm currently running 1.10.4 still. I've been playing on a server that has 1.10.6 upgrades. I've been experiencing an inordinate amount of the following: |
| 00:07.42 | learner | Hi sportster |
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| 00:08.02 | Tupone | hi SC |
| 00:08.04 | learner | I almost made it to #1 last night.. was wierd |
| 00:08.13 | SportChick | I have st and someone has GM. They are able to kill me easily with gm...locking on it seems. I've even watched the bullets curve toward me. |
| 00:08.17 | SportChick | hi learner and Tupone |
| 00:08.20 | SportChick | cool learner |
| 00:08.52 | SportChick | has anyone else experiencd this problem? I can't upgrade to 1.10.6 because it lags too much to play on. |
| 00:09.04 | Banks | not me |
| 00:09.06 | learner | SportChick, I haven't |
| 00:09.13 | learner | I evaded many last night |
| 00:09.23 | learner | and I was using .4 |
| 00:09.35 | SportChick | do you think it's a glitch between 1.10.6 (server) and 1.10.4 (client). hmmmmm...learner. That's weird |
| 00:09.55 | learner | maybe you're just getting slower |
| 00:10.16 | SportChick | I'm able to avoid a few, but not like normal. It's a MUCH higher kill ratio than normal, imho. I've even gone hunting for st and intentionally gone after gm to see if it is frequent or not |
| 00:10.32 | SportChick | I'm ALWAYS getting slower, but that's beside the point |
| 00:10.49 | learner | someone may have tweaked the curve rate on the server |
| 00:11.04 | SportChick | Nidhoggr: are you around? |
| 00:11.17 | learner | there's a variable that controls how tight the GM can turn |
| 00:11.48 | SportChick | yes, but SHOULD it turn? I thought that if you had st, they theoretically could not lock on...therefore no curve |
| 00:12.03 | SportChick | or do I understand wrong? |
| 00:12.13 | learner | oh, you mean lock on while holding ST |
| 00:12.15 | Tupone | SC you're right |
| 00:12.18 | Banks | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:12.37 | learner | yeah, it should not lock on |
| 00:12.44 | SportChick | I have ST and playing against a GM. Somehow they are locking on, or at least it looks like it |
| 00:12.57 | learner | I meant I could evade driving, never grabbed st |
| 00:13.33 | learner | could be a .6 bug .. easy enough to test |
| 00:13.39 | SportChick | I'm used to the occasional kill if I have ST, but mostly if I'm coming dead on or they are lucky. This seems to be a regular occurrence over the last few days (possibly longer, but I was gone for a while) |
| 00:13.43 | Tupone | scanline: however server is not shooting, client are |
| 00:13.58 | learner | yeah scanline :P :) |
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| 00:14.08 | SportChick | heh...was that supposed to be me? |
| 00:14.11 | SportChick | :) |
| 00:14.13 | Tupone | yeah |
| 00:14.27 | SportChick | so where is that controlled? client or server? |
| 00:14.34 | learner | client |
| 00:15.03 | learner | get someone with .6 to try to lock on to you on an empty server with you on .4 |
| 00:15.08 | Tupone | so probably youre playing against some bugged client |
| 00:15.14 | learner | and then try reverse for kicks |
| 00:15.36 | learner | yeah, it very well could have just been someone cheating, but worth checking out |
| 00:19.07 | shorty114 | what channel? |
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| 00:19.41 | Banks | uhhh |
| 00:19.44 | Banks | #bzland |
| 00:20.13 | SC | what's the ghost command? |
| 00:20.32 | SC | I've been gone for the last 6 minutes btw...couldn't get back in |
| 00:20.32 | Tupone | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:21.26 | SportChick | okay, did I miss any answers to my questions? I was killed after my last question and had to reboot xchat |
| 00:21.34 | SportChick | sorry for the mess up |
| 00:22.41 | CIA-8 | BZFlag: 03atupone * 10bzflag/src/bzflag/ (5 files): Roaming/driving key re-mappable. Hope it likes :) |
| 00:22.55 | blast007 | was the person that was able to lock on to you running 1.10.4, or 1.10.6? |
| 00:23.41 | SportChick | thanks, Tupone |
| 00:23.46 | SportChick | ~Tupone++ |
| 00:23.55 | Tupone | you're welcome :) |
| 00:24.22 | SportChick | good question, blast. It's been several, so unfortunately I don't have that info for all of them. I know at least one or two have been running 1.10.6 |
| 00:25.18 | blast007 | the only way I see that it could be a server issue is if the server didn't notify them you grabbed a ST |
| 00:25.34 | blast007 | but I'm not an expert at the code...so could be something else |
| 00:26.20 | SportChick | k |
| 00:27.16 | Grumbler | tb 1, flames 0 |
| 00:27.47 | Tupone | Grumbler: I changed roaming key, I hope you like :) |
| 00:27.53 | Grumbler | whoohoo |
| 00:28.15 | Tupone | you can roam like driving a tank, now |
| 00:28.20 | Grumbler | i owe you a beer/wine/beverage befitting your legal age |
| 00:28.55 | Grumbler | excellent....1.11.4? |
| 00:28.57 | Tupone | not too old to drink illegally |
| 00:29.12 | Tupone | HEAD, |
| 00:29.19 | Tupone | is 1.11.3 now |
| 00:29.21 | Grumbler | ok, i will check after the game |
| 00:29.50 | Tupone | you have to reset binding :) and you can assign to any other keys |
| 00:31.06 | learner | ~tupone++ |
| 00:31.19 | Tupone | :) |
| 00:31.24 | learner | for being able to drive like real tank in observer ;) |
| 00:31.45 | learner | now you'll loose points if I can't play with keys now :) |
| 00:31.52 | Tupone | that is with the normal keys |
| 00:32.11 | learner | oop.. gotta get my doggie out of the bathtub from his bath |
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| 00:32.42 | fiberchunks | i think learner and i are the only people who care about key playing :) |
| 00:32.45 | Grumbler | bad learner, bad |
| 00:32.53 | Tupone | you can also go up/down, translate, or bows with same key and shift/ctrl/alt |
| 00:33.06 | fiberchunks | bows? |
| 00:33.14 | fiberchunks | backwards? |
| 00:33.34 | Tupone | like you do before with Ctrl-Up Arrow |
| 00:34.16 | Tupone | those ... only on roaming :) |
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| 00:35.06 | Tupone | for this nite is enough. Well, good chat |
| 00:35.07 | Tupone | bye |
| 00:35.17 | blast007 | cya |
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| 00:48.35 | learner | wow.. almost 9 and there is still some daylight |
| 00:48.53 | SportChick | okay |
| 00:49.08 | SportChick | I've tested for a bit with brjyen and hell0 in secretplace5777 |
| 00:49.16 | SportChick | there were no abnomalies |
| 00:49.26 | SportChick | so my guess is it may be a cheat client |
| 00:49.43 | learner | yeah, that's likely |
| 00:56.59 | SportChick | there's a Nidhoggr imposter on viper. And a tim riker on a map somewhere too |
| 00:57.14 | SportChick | one of the mostly empty maps |
| 00:59.27 | Grumbler | ~gmm |
| 00:59.40 | SportChick | ~viper |
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| 01:04.09 | SportChick | hiya DT and Patlabor |
| 01:04.15 | Patlabor221 | hallo |
| 01:04.28 | SportChick | DTRemenak: and Patlabor: do you know if anyone ever figured out what was wrong with my version of 1.10.6? |
| 01:04.41 | Patlabor221 | no way to dupe it |
| 01:04.48 | SportChick | or at least, why I can't run it? |
| 01:05.07 | SportChick | bummer |
| 01:05.48 | Patlabor221 | how does 1.11.3 run for ya? |
| 01:06.40 | *** part/#bzflag Banks (BANKS@pcp01492481pcs.tybout01.de.comcast.net) |
| 01:06.58 | SportChick | ummmm...not sure if I have that one...hold on, let me see what I have |
| 01:07.17 | SportChick | Noodleman_away, I have 1.11.2 |
| 01:07.21 | SportChick | sheesh |
| 01:07.21 | SportChick | no |
| 01:07.45 | SportChick | don't have 11.3 |
| 01:07.47 | Patlabor221 | I put a recent build of 1.11.3 on dragon |
| 01:08.01 | Patlabor221 | bzflag.dragon.org/builds/ |
| 01:08.03 | Patlabor221 | IIRC |
| 01:08.03 | SportChick | okay |
| 01:08.08 | SportChick | I'll download it in a bit |
| 01:08.12 | Patlabor221 | k |
| 01:08.15 | SportChick | thanks |
| 01:08.18 | SportChick | 1.11.2 runs fine, btw |
| 01:08.24 | Patlabor221 | this is in your dekstop |
| 01:08.26 | Patlabor221 | ? |
| 01:08.35 | Patlabor221 | well I built 11.3 the same way I did 10.4 |
| 01:08.38 | Patlabor221 | sorry 10.6 |
| 01:08.50 | SportChick | k |
| 01:09.05 | SportChick | didn't understand the desktop question |
| 01:09.39 | Patlabor221 | this is on your desktop PC? |
| 01:09.42 | Patlabor221 | ? |
| 01:09.54 | SportChick | yes...I don't play or even ATTEMPT to play on my laptop |
| 01:10.33 | Patlabor221 | k |
| 01:10.50 | Patlabor221 | I need to test it but I think I have a new video card for you |
| 01:11.13 | SportChick | oh! for hubby's computer? cool |
| 01:12.05 | SportChick | a friend of ours just offered us a 10% discount on any Dell purchase for my replacement laptop...through is company. But we have to figure out what we want first |
| 01:12.07 | SportChick | and earn some money |
| 01:12.35 | Patlabor221 | yeah it works |
| 01:12.42 | Patlabor221 | mail me your addy and I'll send it tomorow |
| 01:12.45 | SportChick | cool |
| 01:12.51 | SportChick | okay |
| 01:12.59 | SportChick | usps or ups? |
| 01:13.06 | Patlabor221 | ups most likely |
| 01:13.06 | SportChick | different addys |
| 01:13.14 | Patlabor221 | well what ever you want |
| 01:13.32 | SportChick | what's cheapest? |
| 01:13.38 | Patlabor221 | dono |
| 01:13.43 | Patlabor221 | both |
| 01:13.44 | Patlabor221 | :) |
| 01:14.56 | SportChick | heh...well, I just sent the email |
| 01:15.04 | SportChick | with both addys...you get to pick |
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| 01:30.21 | maj_destruction | yo rooot |
| 01:31.55 | *** mode/#bzflag [+b *!rooot@adsl-68-133.lou.bluegrass.net] by Patlabor221 |
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| 02:10.20 | Grumbler | tb 2 flames 0 |
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| 02:12.34 | Grumbler | tb 3 flames 0 |
| 02:12.37 | orange | yep :-) |
| 02:12.42 | orange | wow |
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| 02:17.08 | bugger | hey all |
| 02:19.42 | orange | wow |
| 02:19.52 | orange | you see that grumbler? |
| 02:21.22 | Grumbler | tb 4 flames 0 |
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| 02:22.34 | orange | well, it's also called an offsides pass |
| 02:23.13 | orange | you a calgary fan, grumbler? |
| 02:27.51 | Grumbler | orange, this season. conroy is an alumni, so i have more ties there. |
| 02:28.38 | orange | I'm rooting for Tampa Bay, just because my team (the Thrashers) is in their conf. |
| 02:31.50 | Grumbler | i could go that route, since i had tickets to many the Hurricanes games.....of course erik cole is an alumni as well, so it made it easy |
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| 02:31.56 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o Patlabor221] by ChanServ |
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| 02:35.34 | Grumbler | tb 4 flames 1 |
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| 02:36.52 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o Patlabor221] by ChanServ |
| 02:51.36 | maj-destruction | this place is hoppin' |
| 02:51.44 | maj-destruction | everyone must be fragging |
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| 02:55.32 | Patlabor221 | what do you expect it to be? AOL? |
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| 03:03.23 | maj-destruction | lol |
| 03:03.39 | maj-destruction | you dont like me do you? :P |
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| 03:07.56 | mebigfatguy | did the confused mac guy show up yet? :) |
| 03:10.30 | Patlabor221 | what one ;) |
| 03:12.19 | mebigfatguy | heh |
| 03:12.58 | Patlabor221 | I hear they travel in packs |
| 03:13.30 | mebigfatguy | lemmings? |
| 03:14.57 | mebigfatguy | so, in my investigations of my odd powersupply i unplugged all the power connectors, reconnected, and reordered power so that power went to the vid card first, instead of the drive (on ps daisy chain) |
| 03:15.05 | mebigfatguy | whatever i did, it seems to be fixed :) |
| 03:15.32 | CIA-8 | BZFlag: 03trepan * 10bzflag/src/bzfs/CmdLineOptions.cxx: |
| 03:15.33 | CIA-8 | BZFlag: modifed checkArgc() to check for multiple arguments (would SEGV before) |
| 03:15.33 | CIA-8 | BZFlag: preliminary addition of -set, should probably check to see if the value |
| 03:15.33 | CIA-8 | BZFlag: evaluates before accepting it (or do this after all option parsing?) |
| 03:15.59 | mebigfatguy | -set? as opposed to -vars? |
| 03:16.33 | trepan | straight off the line |
| 03:16.34 | bryjen | as in -set tankSpeed=50 |
| 03:16.35 | Patlabor221 | wierd |
| 03:17.12 | trepan | then you don't need a vars file, and prolly gonna add an options/end section to maps |
| 03:17.42 | trepan | this is based on an earlier conversation with Tim/Grumbler... |
| 03:18.26 | trepan | heh, s/\//&/ |
| 03:22.23 | mebigfatguy | -set seems a lil silly, but thw world section is good |
| 03:22.26 | mebigfatguy | but whatever, |
| 03:22.41 | mebigfatguy | don't matter none to me |
| 03:22.56 | bryjen | the -set's could then go in a -conf file |
| 03:23.09 | mebigfatguy | thats true |
| 03:23.13 | mebigfatguy | a valid enough point |
| 03:23.21 | mebigfatguy | sigh, |
| 03:23.35 | trepan | mebigfatguy: then i won't need an 'options' sectiona and and 'variables' section |
| 03:23.38 | mebigfatguy | :) |
| 03:23.58 | trepan | mebigfatguy: heh, and bzedit and bzmapper, and anything else |
| 03:24.03 | mebigfatguy | heh |
| 03:24.11 | trepan | be we will filnally be able to tie gamestyle to the maps |
| 03:24.40 | mebigfatguy | yes thats good |
| 03:26.21 | trepan | bryjen: including -c, -cr, etc... ? that could get nasty |
| 03:26.43 | bryjen | well, maybe not _all_ settable in-game |
| 03:26.55 | bryjen | shot count, rico, jump... |
| 03:27.30 | mebigfatguy | heh |
| 03:27.37 | mebigfatguy | -rabbit -ctf |
| 03:27.45 | bryjen | so you can toy with them while tuning a new map w/o having to restart the server |
| 03:27.49 | trepan | bryjen: bzflag client will need some serious tweaking, because of object allocation |
| 03:28.25 | trepan | ex: -ms, -mp, and flags |
| 03:28.33 | bryjen | mebigfatguy: capture the f* rabbit ? ;) |
| 03:29.21 | SportChick | learner: is your browser-based irc client still up? |
| 03:29.50 | bryjen | SC: there's one at stats.bzflag.org |
| 03:30.03 | SportChick | ah, ok! thanks |
| 03:30.10 | SportChick | I don't need it now, but will when I start working |
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| 03:33.23 | bryjen | eep. more thunderstorms. |
| 03:34.23 | bryjen | just like last night. who's scheduling these things for 10:30pm ? |
| 03:35.30 | Rayeh | dunno |
| 03:35.49 | Rayeh | I had thunderstorms all last week, and some of this week |
| 03:35.56 | Rayeh | supposed to have one tonight but I don't see it ;p |
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| 03:39.25 | mebigfatguy | tboomers scheduled for 1AM here |
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| 03:41.57 | shorty114 | about cvs |
| 03:42.04 | shorty114 | what is the module for 1.9? |
| 03:43.24 | shorty114 | e.g. |
| 03:43.51 | shorty114 | cvs -z3 -d:pserver:anonymous@cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/bzflag <module> |
| 03:44.30 | lurgy | it mutht be weally fulfilling |
| 03:45.34 | blast007 | why do you want 1.9? |
| 03:46.16 | shorty114 | wanna see it... |
| 03:46.28 | shorty114 | and the instructions on bzbb are outdated |
| 03:46.36 | shorty114 | i just need the module name... |
| 03:46.43 | learner | 1.9? |
| 03:46.58 | shorty114 | yeah |
| 03:46.59 | trepan | 1.9 is dead, skipped over |
| 03:47.02 | shorty114 | oh |
| 03:47.07 | blast007 | don't even think there are any 1.9 servers still up |
| 03:47.21 | shorty114 | is it 1.11.x now? |
| 03:47.27 | blast007 | it was the development version that became 1.10 |
| 03:47.33 | learner | 1.9 dev was on HEAD, which was tagged off as the 1.10 branch |
| 03:47.50 | blast007 | yeah, 1.11.3 is the HEAD now, i think |
| 03:47.54 | shorty114 | oh |
| 03:47.55 | shorty114 | ok |
| 03:47.56 | shorty114 | thnaks |
| 03:48.07 | learner | the module is "bzflag" |
| 03:48.13 | shorty114 | i know |
| 03:48.25 | shorty114 | b/c on bzbb it says v1_7 for 1.7 |
| 03:48.33 | shorty114 | so i was wondering |
| 03:48.42 | learner | that's not a module .. that's a branch tag name |
| 03:48.48 | shorty114 | oh |
| 03:49.06 | learner | there are only a few actual modules .. 'bzflag' 'bzedit' 'pybzflag', etc |
| 03:49.22 | shorty114 | wat's pybzflag? |
| 03:49.23 | learner | they are listed on sf |
| 03:49.41 | learner | it was an experimental project to implement bzflag in python |
| 03:49.57 | shorty114 | is it dead? |
| 03:50.02 | blast007 | it was pretty cool looking, at least from the screenshots ;) |
| 03:50.05 | learner | it's not dead |
| 03:50.07 | shorty114 | oh |
| 03:50.08 | shorty114 | ok |
| 03:50.16 | shorty114 | ok...next thing |
| 03:50.16 | learner | but it's not in active development either |
| 03:50.18 | shorty114 | bzedit |
| 03:50.27 | shorty114 | does it compile well on osx? |
| 03:50.42 | learner | not really |
| 03:50.56 | learner | it doesn't compile well really any where |
| 03:51.34 | shorty114 | o |
| 03:52.25 | shorty114 | why |
| 03:52.27 | shorty114 | ?? |
| 03:52.49 | learner | it requires an external library that is hard to find |
| 03:52.57 | shorty114 | what's it called? |
| 03:55.58 | mebigfatguy | its resting |
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| 03:59.32 | shorty114 | o |
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| 04:00.19 | Patlabor221 | it's called gtkglarea |
| 04:00.21 | trepan | where would youz suggest I put: const char ServerPlayerName[] = "SERVER"; global.h? |
| 04:00.56 | learner | config.h |
| 04:01.21 | trepan | too slow, it's already in ;) |
| 04:01.52 | learner | sounds like src/game/ logic to me |
| 04:01.56 | Patlabor221 | mmmmmm return of the kingy goodness |
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| 04:02.38 | learner | ~snowball SnoBall |
| 04:02.40 | ibot | ibot launches a snowball tightly compressed with little shards of ice at SnoBall |
| 04:02.41 | learner | aua |
| 04:03.00 | shorty114 | lol |
| 04:03.08 | shorty114 | Patlabor221: where can i get it? |
| 04:03.14 | Patlabor221 | you have gnome? |
| 04:03.24 | Patlabor221 | and x windows? |
| 04:03.33 | learner | shorty114, even if you get it, it's not gonna build |
| 04:03.49 | Patlabor221 | those are not mac OS things they are linux/unix X windows things |
| 04:03.50 | learner | you have to fix a few lines |
| 04:04.11 | shorty114 | :( |
| 04:04.18 | CIA-8 | BZFlag: 03trepan * 10bzflag/src/bzfs/ (CmdLineOptions.h bzfs.cxx): disallow spoofing of SERVER messages |
| 04:04.20 | shorty114 | i want bzedit for macosx! |
| 04:04.28 | Patlabor221 | then get to making one! |
| 04:04.40 | learner | cappy's working on a rewrite that should be improved |
| 04:04.52 | Patlabor221 | you think he's still working on that? |
| 04:05.00 | trepan | macosx have any win emus that could do bzedit32? |
| 04:05.03 | learner | i see a commit every once in a while |
| 04:05.12 | Patlabor221 | when was the last one? |
| 04:05.21 | learner | I distracted him with that siggraph submission thing for a week or two |
| 04:05.22 | Patlabor221 | shorty114: install windows :) |
| 04:05.35 | shorty114 | i've fallen in love w/ macosx... |
| 04:05.47 | Patlabor221 | then write or port an editor |
| 04:05.50 | learner | trepan: virtual pc is a complete x86 emulation |
| 04:06.05 | Patlabor221 | the windows world class should work on any OS, just slap a shell around it |
| 04:06.13 | Patlabor221 | shoudl be easy on the mac |
| 04:06.20 | Patlabor221 | or so they 'toshies allways tell me |
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| 04:07.47 | learner | you paid for that? :) |
| 04:07.52 | Patlabor221 | love that movie |
| 04:08.00 | Patlabor221 | lokit the size of that boys head |
| 04:09.12 | Patlabor221 | woulda goten the first season of northern exposure too |
| 04:09.17 | Patlabor221 | but it's tupping $40 |
| 04:09.31 | orange | axe murderer is hilarious |
| 04:10.33 | orange | of course, I'm partial to the line "that's like an orange on a toothpick" :-) |
| 04:10.44 | Patlabor221 | I'm not kidding that's a huge noggin |
| 04:10.48 | Patlabor221 | a virtual planetoid |
| 04:10.55 | Patlabor221 | has it's own weather system |
| 04:10.58 | orange | head! |
| 04:11.01 | Patlabor221 | it's lile sputnik |
| 04:11.07 | Patlabor221 | spherical yet pointy at parts |
| 04:11.11 | orange | lol |
| 04:11.25 | mebigfatguy | chick flick? |
| 04:11.25 | mebigfatguy | :) |
| 04:11.31 | Patlabor221 | no not at all |
| 04:11.37 | Patlabor221 | one of the early mike myers movies |
| 04:11.37 | mebigfatguy | just kiddin |
| 04:11.38 | orange | not by a long shot |
| 04:11.49 | Patlabor221 | pre waynes world |
| 04:11.53 | mebigfatguy | heh |
| 04:11.59 | Patlabor221 | in fact it may be his first? |
| 04:12.01 | mebigfatguy | large budget then, i assume |
| 04:12.10 | Patlabor221 | decent one actualy |
| 04:12.11 | learner | billions |
| 04:12.13 | orange | that scene is classic mike myers |
| 04:12.37 | orange | hmmm... imdb has it as 1993 with wayne's world as 1992 |
| 04:12.38 | orange | go figure |
| 04:12.56 | Patlabor221 | ahh |
| 04:13.00 | Patlabor221 | I am often wrong |
| 04:13.03 | Patlabor221 | well still |
| 04:13.06 | orange | I thought so too |
| 04:13.09 | Patlabor221 | it's pre austin powers |
| 04:13.18 | shorty114 | lol |
| 04:13.24 | orange | pre-shrek |
| 04:13.35 | Patlabor221 | very |
| 04:21.45 | sgk284 | anyone ever hack around with this: http://g3d-cpp.sourceforge.net/ |
| 04:21.47 | sgk284 | ? |
| 04:21.55 | sgk284 | seems promising, i'm about to check it out |
| 04:22.12 | Patlabor221 | what does it do? |
| 04:22.25 | sgk284 | its just a graphics 3d lib |
| 04:22.28 | sgk284 | for c++ |
| 04:22.33 | Patlabor221 | I See that |
| 04:22.36 | Patlabor221 | but what does it do? |
| 04:22.43 | Patlabor221 | what features does it provide? |
| 04:23.01 | sgk284 | apparently makes 3d cross platform deving fairly trivial |
| 04:23.08 | Patlabor221 | SDL does that |
| 04:23.14 | sgk284 | and its has some goodies like cellshading, etc.. |
| 04:23.23 | sgk284 | its essentially an abstraction layer |
| 04:23.27 | Patlabor221 | ahh |
| 04:23.32 | Patlabor221 | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:23.37 | sgk284 | it uses sdl, opengl and... something else i cant remember |
| 04:24.28 | sgk284 | i really wanna develop a game over the summer and have been looking at all the different possibilities |
| 04:24.43 | sgk284 | :) |
| 04:25.43 | Patlabor221 | looks easyer to just get an engine proper |
| 04:25.49 | Patlabor221 | since they are dime a dosen |
| 04:25.58 | sgk284 | yea |
| 04:26.16 | sgk284 | crystalspace was looking good but its kinda bloated :/ |
| 04:26.23 | sgk284 | ogre is apparently nice |
| 04:26.33 | Patlabor221 | CS is not bad |
| 04:26.36 | Patlabor221 | it's very powerfull |
| 04:26.57 | sgk284 | yea |
| 04:27.18 | lurgy | 1-6-4-5 |
| 04:27.23 | lurgy | it's the combination to the safe |
| 04:27.34 | sgk284 | and CS has python bindings, does it not? |
| 04:28.02 | Patlabor221 | dono |
| 04:28.05 | Patlabor221 | don't like C? |
| 04:28.11 | sgk284 | i dont care if i do the code in python or c++, but for somereason i am leanign towards python |
| 04:28.44 | sgk284 | maybe i just wanna familiarize myself with it more heh, or maybe i just believe that it will be easier to port to other OSes |
| 04:29.08 | sgk284 | i'm not really sure, i'll probably wind up going with c++ though as it is what i'm most comfortable with |
| 04:34.58 | mebigfatguy | you're just hoping to talk scanline into helping you |
| 04:35.28 | mebigfatguy | holla |
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