| 00:00.03 | Cool795 | that's the battlezone II one... it was decent but kinda sucky |
| 00:00.11 | Patlabor221 | like the remake of combat, that one sucked too |
| 00:00.16 | brlcad | perhpas inspired by bzflag, but not directly related ;) |
| 00:00.27 | Patlabor221 | inspired by battlezone |
| 00:00.50 | Patlabor221 | activision acutla got the battlezone license for that |
| 00:00.58 | Patlabor221 | I can scan in the article I have if I can find it |
| 00:00.58 | Cool795 | ok, not following |
| 00:01.02 | brlcad | i mean battlezone (non-atari) may have been inspired by bzflag |
| 00:01.09 | Cool795 | the arcade version is what this place is working on right? |
| 00:01.35 | Patlabor221 | brlcad, I doubt it, they had the zone license, tanarus was inspired by BZFlag I am sure |
| 00:01.39 | Patlabor221 | no Cool795 |
| 00:01.49 | Patlabor221 | we are not related at all to any of those games |
| 00:02.00 | Cool795 | but more or less based on them right? |
| 00:02.00 | Patlabor221 | this is an open source project that started on SGI machines |
| 00:02.21 | Patlabor221 | no this game was looosly based on the old old vector BZ game, but shares nothing with it |
| 00:02.32 | Patlabor221 | if you can say "based" to mean < has tank> |
| 00:02.54 | Cool795 | <-- completely lost |
| 00:03.01 | Patlabor221 | it's just a multiplayer tank game |
| 00:03.12 | brlcad | by based, I meant that it provided some inspiration, that's all |
| 00:03.14 | Cool795 | yes, the arcade one was... |
| 00:03.19 | Patlabor221 | and since everyone knows Battlezone is a tank game, BZ made a good name in the begining |
| 00:03.21 | brlcad | they had to of known of it, at least it is likely |
| 00:03.32 | Patlabor221 | yeah |
| 00:03.32 | Cool795 | i played it, both the arcade and rts one |
| 00:03.35 | brlcad | bz itself is just so old and known |
| 00:03.52 | Patlabor221 | bzflag is nothing like ether of those 2 games |
| 00:03.59 | Patlabor221 | the only similartys is tanks |
| 00:04.01 | Cool795 | ok so its a completely new protect then, bottom line |
| 00:04.05 | TyroneFHornigh | Cool795: If you have a decent video card, try downloading bzflag and playing it for a bit. |
| 00:04.12 | Patlabor221 | a completely old product :) |
| 00:04.18 | Patlabor221 | it's older then the RTS by far |
| 00:04.25 | Cool795 | its not old if they're a new thing based on an old game :P |
| 00:04.50 | Patlabor221 | it's like sayting ridge racer is based on pole position |
| 00:04.57 | Patlabor221 | they both have cars |
| 00:04.58 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 00:05.06 | Cool795 | i'm going to check it out either way, i can't stop seeing green |
| 00:05.16 | Cool795 | if i can find the download :S |
| 00:05.20 | purple_cow | the 7800 had so much better graphics |
| 00:05.22 | Patlabor221 | sourceforge |
| 00:05.38 | Patlabor221 | what platform are you on Cool795 |
| 00:05.39 | Patlabor221 | ? |
| 00:05.43 | Patlabor221 | windows or linux? |
| 00:05.44 | brlcad | Cool795: BZFlag dates back to 1992, the BattleZone from activision was released in 1998 |
| 00:05.46 | Patlabor221 | or a mac? |
| 00:05.47 | Cool795 | windows |
| 00:05.57 | TyroneFHornigh | Cool795: From the topic http://BZFlag.org/ |
| 00:05.59 | Patlabor221 | you have a decent card? |
| 00:06.10 | Cool795 | heh, my computer specs are fine :P |
| 00:06.27 | Patlabor221 | http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/bzflag/bzflag-1.10.4-0-high_res.W32.exe?download |
| 00:06.31 | Patlabor221 | current windows installer |
| 00:07.10 | brlcad | Ahh. here we go: http://apple2history.org/museum/software_games/battlezone.html |
| 00:07.26 | brlcad | good ol 1984 |
| 00:07.35 | Cool795 | hm. wierd |
| 00:07.50 | Cool795 | i'm almost certain.... the RTS came out earlier than 1998 |
| 00:07.54 | Patlabor221 | nope |
| 00:08.06 | Patlabor221 | it was on the Next gen consoles too |
| 00:08.20 | Cool795 | i played it when i was 9-10 years old... |
| 00:08.27 | Cool795 | i'm pretty sure, if not earlier |
| 00:08.27 | Patlabor221 | not the RTS |
| 00:08.33 | Patlabor221 | well how old are oyu? |
| 00:08.37 | Cool795 | yes, the RTS |
| 00:08.41 | Patlabor221 | can't say no, utill the RTS :) |
| 00:08.45 | Cool795 | 18 in a few days |
| 00:08.55 | Cool795 | anyway |
| 00:09.11 | Patlabor221 | the arcade come out in 1980 |
| 00:09.19 | Patlabor221 | so it's older then you :) |
| 00:09.22 | Patlabor221 | http://www.ggdb.com/GGDB/Details.asp?VID=276 |
| 00:09.59 | brlcad | that version was later released into the public domain |
| 00:10.23 | brlcad | whereupon activision picked up the name and took off with it |
| 00:10.52 | Cool795 | wtf |
| 00:10.56 | Cool795 | i don't believe it |
| 00:11.02 | Patlabor221 | it's history man |
| 00:11.09 | Cool795 | LOL |
| 00:11.09 | *** join/#bzflag Legoguy|Laptop (~Legoguy|L@c-67-162-44-243.client.comcast.net) |
| 00:11.14 | Cool795 | no its not what you were thinking |
| 00:11.16 | Patlabor221 | I played Battlezone in the arcade when I was 9-10 |
| 00:11.22 | Patlabor221 | and that was when those games were new :) |
| 00:11.44 | brlcad | BZFlag's author picked up some of the basic gameplay aspects of the original atari BattleZone, but basically wrote it from scratch |
| 00:11.53 | Cool795 | that's great, what i got confused on was that i played it back in 1998, and i was about 10 then or so... i was checking some records, played in in march 1998 :) |
| 00:12.13 | Cool795 | as for the arcade version, i played that on an emulator a few years ago |
| 00:12.32 | brlcad | people born in the 80's tend to do that to me.. |
| 00:12.38 | Cool795 | age is a relative thing, age means didly squat anyway |
| 00:12.48 | Patlabor221 | heh |
| 00:12.55 | Cool795 | your whatever age you wanna be |
| 00:13.05 | |tim| | really?!? |
| 00:13.06 | purple_cow | naw, age can mean a lot :) |
| 00:13.17 | TyroneFHornigh | Actually, age is quite meaningful. we could have guessed your age based on your entrance into the channel. |
| 00:13.19 | Patlabor221 | mental age can mean a lot |
| 00:13.21 | purple_cow | generally the over-30 players are a lot more pleasant to deal with than the 13 year olds :) |
| 00:13.29 | brlcad | mental maturity ;) |
| 00:13.39 | |tim| | grr |
| 00:13.43 | Patlabor221 | and don't say kewl and oOOOooOOoOoOoO |
| 00:13.49 | Cool795 | yes, less n00bishness when you get older, unlike lil old me, i'm still learning a bunch with the internet and stuff... been using it for 10 years, but havn't learned squat so far |
| 00:13.50 | TyroneFHornigh | hi |tim| :) |
| 00:14.00 | |tim| | lol |
| 00:14.24 | brlcad | the older folk tend to shy away from "lol" too :) |
| 00:14.28 | TyroneFHornigh | lol |
| 00:14.31 | Patlabor221 | yes |
| 00:14.39 | Patlabor221 | we prefer the "heh" it seems |
| 00:14.42 | Cool795 | well, *I* for one believe in the small unspoken rule of not being a complete n00b when it comes to stuff, i try to keep it fairly intelligent |
| 00:14.45 | brlcad | heh |
| 00:15.02 | |tim| | noobish* |
| 00:15.07 | |tim| | you tend to forget things easier |
| 00:15.08 | Cool795 | like using "u r a dummy' and other such IQ 50 things |
| 00:15.13 | brlcad | very little written here actually makes me "laugh out loud" ;) |
| 00:15.28 | brlcad | hehe |
| 00:15.42 | Patlabor221 | some things have, not due to comedy, but implied humor :) |
| 00:15.45 | brlcad | at poor ol' mac's expense every night ;) |
| 00:15.51 | Cool795 | 'lol' - lamer term imho... but then again, i come from the roleplayers squad, so you can't hold it against me |
| 00:16.00 | Patlabor221 | thankflyy he dosn't seem to mind |
| 00:16.04 | TyroneFHornigh | sure we can. |
| 00:16.04 | purple_cow | i'm cranky about the lack of a MAC photo on the potm page |
| 00:16.19 | Patlabor221 | tho if tim /.'s I will laugh out loud |
| 00:16.23 | TyroneFHornigh | You can grab his portrait from orkut and submit it. |
| 00:16.38 | brlcad | purple_cow: I e-mailed mac and reminded moorman that he sent one |
| 00:16.38 | purple_cow | Patlabor221: i'm -really- hoping he doesn't email sf about it |
| 00:16.38 | TyroneFHornigh | Patlabor221: you and everyone else. |
| 00:16.45 | *** join/#bzflag Carnage (CarN@dyn216-8-132-151.ADSL.mnsi.net) |
| 00:16.46 | Patlabor221 | yeah |
| 00:16.53 | purple_cow | brlcad: well, he *said* he sent one :) |
| 00:16.54 | Patlabor221 | but if he does, I will laugh |
| 00:16.56 | Patlabor221 | then cry |
| 00:17.00 | Patlabor221 | then laugh some more |
| 00:17.02 | brlcad | felt a bit presumptuous of me to send mac's pic .. he might have been lying ;) |
| 00:17.03 | Patlabor221 | then have a beer |
| 00:17.30 | Patlabor221 | Cool795, move the mouse, shoot people that are not the same color as you |
| 00:17.35 | Patlabor221 | hillarity ensues |
| 00:17.47 | purple_cow | Patlabor221: i imagine i'll follow a similar process, except with coffee instead of beer |
| 00:17.57 | brlcad | you get a lot of great temporary arial views as a new player ;) |
| 00:17.58 | Patlabor221 | why you all outa beer? |
| 00:18.08 | purple_cow | just not a fan |
| 00:18.15 | Patlabor221 | yeah rule 2, don't get shot |
| 00:18.44 | TyroneFHornigh | purple_cow: You need to come out west. There's lots of good beers out here. :) |
| 00:19.21 | purple_cow | TyroneFHornigh: eventually i'll manage to tour some more |
| 00:19.36 | brlcad | Patlabor221: you may actually _be_ older, but whether you actually feel older will remain truely unknown ;) |
| 00:19.37 | TyroneFHornigh | A beer tour on bicycle is a fun trip. |
| 00:19.40 | brlcad | but you're probably right ;) |
| 00:19.43 | purple_cow | my immediate focus on travel is about a year from now |
| 00:19.58 | brlcad | hehehe |
| 00:19.58 | Cool795 | too much to read. just wanna blow stuff up |
| 00:20.04 | brlcad | bz is great for that |
| 00:20.14 | brlcad | at least once you're good ;) |
| 00:20.19 | Cool795 | i always get caught up in reading every little detail... |
| 00:20.21 | Patlabor221 | like I say, move the mouse, shot people not your color |
| 00:20.31 | brlcad | unless they are yello |
| 00:20.31 | Cool795 | i've played quite a few fps games before :P |
| 00:20.33 | TyroneFHornigh | Install, execute, join a server that has other people, and start playing |
| 00:20.37 | |tim| | gotta go to moms |
| 00:20.40 | |tim| | bye everybody |
| 00:20.41 | purple_cow | Cool795: the controls are different than most fps games |
| 00:20.42 | Patlabor221 | yeah black/yellow fair game |
| 00:20.45 | Cool795 | yes, going to as soon as i run it |
| 00:20.46 | brlcad | cya lengthy tim |
| 00:20.57 | lengthy | bye! |
| 00:20.59 | lengthy | :) |
| 00:21.01 | Patlabor221 | fabs time |
| 00:21.14 | brlcad | TyroneFHornigh: http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/8397 |
| 00:21.29 | brlcad | I think that link is dead now, but I played it briefly -- fun stuff ;) |
| 00:21.52 | purple_cow | hmm |
| 00:22.12 | purple_cow | ...sometime :P |
| 00:22.16 | TyroneFHornigh | I remember wasting a few quarters on that game during pizza lunches. |
| 00:22.21 | Patlabor221 | you do have 2 sticks now |
| 00:22.41 | TyroneFHornigh | We tended to like Joust, since we could have a couple of people playing. |
| 00:22.47 | Patlabor221 | I find it decent to play with the PS2 controller |
| 00:23.10 | purple_cow | i do |
| 00:23.15 | *** join/#bzflag VBD (~DANIEL@cpe-66-189-39-226.ma.charter.com) |
| 00:23.23 | purple_cow | though i think the gameport stick might be at my parents' house |
| 00:23.36 | VBD | Hello |
| 00:23.44 | VBD | Anyone |
| 00:23.50 | Patlabor221 | hello |
| 00:24.04 | TyroneFHornigh | brlcad: Here's a more recent site, note the mentioned links. http://www.xenadyne.com/battlezone/ |
| 00:24.05 | VBD | I'm |
| 00:24.13 | Patlabor221 | I think I still have another to send you that matches, I wonder where that went, purple_cow |
| 00:24.23 | purple_cow | ah |
| 00:24.27 | purple_cow | matching would be slick :) |
| 00:24.27 | brlcad | TyroneFHornigh: I saw that, but dead links |
| 00:24.41 | VBD | Anyone |
| 00:24.42 | brlcad | unless that ip is just blocked from here |
| 00:25.10 | Patlabor221 | I will locate |
| 00:25.16 | brlcad | Joust was a great classic |
| 00:25.17 | purple_cow | brlcad: worked for me |
| 00:25.21 | brlcad | hrmph |
| 00:26.08 | Patlabor221 | Real People |
| 00:26.23 | Patlabor221 | ahah, the stick has been found and will be retreaved soon |
| 00:26.28 | Cool795 | hahaha, would help if i didn't blow my teammates up |
| 00:26.28 | Patlabor221 | you wanted a SBLive too right? |
| 00:26.42 | Patlabor221 | that is why I said don't shoot people the same color as you |
| 00:26.52 | purple_cow | oh, for wasabi? yeah, i think |
| 00:26.55 | Patlabor221 | k |
| 00:26.55 | Cool795 | i dont even know my own color |
| 00:27.01 | Patlabor221 | look at your hud |
| 00:27.05 | Patlabor221 | what color is the border? |
| 00:27.08 | Patlabor221 | that is your team color |
| 00:27.18 | Patlabor221 | and it says in big text when you log in ( you have joined XXXXX team ) |
| 00:27.32 | Cool795 | can't see hardly anything |
| 00:27.42 | Patlabor221 | turn up your brighness |
| 00:27.42 | Cool795 | i need to not run it in windowed mode i suppose |
| 00:27.45 | Patlabor221 | in the setings |
| 00:27.53 | Cool795 | 1600x1200 res... hard to see |
| 00:27.54 | Patlabor221 | there is a section for video setings |
| 00:28.02 | Patlabor221 | you can change the res too |
| 00:28.05 | Patlabor221 | in setings |
| 00:28.25 | Cool795 | if i could find anything... need to check the manual for what buttons do what |
| 00:28.37 | Patlabor221 | you can play with just the mouse |
| 00:28.46 | TyroneFHornigh | That's all settable from the options menu |
| 00:29.22 | TyroneFHornigh | I don't think jump is bound to a mouse button in the defaults. |
| 00:29.31 | Patlabor221 | true |
| 00:29.35 | Patlabor221 | mouse and the tab key |
| 00:29.51 | TyroneFHornigh | then again, tanks don't jump. ;) |
| 00:29.52 | brlcad | Cool795: you can also look at the color of your bullets |
| 00:29.59 | brlcad | tanks don't jump! |
| 00:30.11 | TyroneFHornigh | unless you shoot them. |
| 00:30.58 | brlcad | purple_cow: did you play the osx C port? |
| 00:31.03 | Cool795 | woo hoo |
| 00:31.06 | Cool795 | jumping fest |
| 00:31.19 | purple_cow | brlcad: no |
| 00:31.24 | Cool795 | dang i die fast... heheh |
| 00:31.36 | TyroneFHornigh | brlcad: you should join the game, and teach him why it's a bad idea to jump ;) |
| 00:31.43 | brlcad | gmta ;) |
| 00:33.55 | Cool795 | woo |
| 00:34.43 | pyrobunny | proud of yourself? |
| 00:35.19 | TyroneFHornigh | pyrobunny: How are those patches coming? |
| 00:35.39 | pyrobunny | patches? I don't see any patches |
| 00:35.49 | TyroneFHornigh | Neither do I. |
| 00:35.54 | pyrobunny | ok... |
| 00:38.05 | purple_cow | patches for? |
| 00:38.23 | TyroneFHornigh | positive contributions to the community. |