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| 00:03.25 | SportChick | hi spiffy |
| 00:07.06 | Tupone | hi orchid |
| 00:07.35 | orchid | buon pomeriggio |
| 00:07.44 | Tupone | come va? |
| 00:07.53 | orchid | heh |
| 00:08.01 | Tupone | ask ibot? |
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| 00:08.27 | orchid | !translate en to it good evening |
| 00:08.43 | guu | orchid: buona sera |
| 00:08.52 | Tupone | !translate it to en come va |
| 00:09.08 | guu | Tupone: as it goes |
| 00:09.19 | orchid | ahh, hows i t going |
| 00:09.26 | Tupone | lol |
| 00:09.28 | Tupone | yeah |
| 00:09.33 | orchid | close enough |
| 00:09.47 | Tupone | got that good reading? |
| 00:10.02 | orchid | yea, but i couldnt get js to work |
| 00:10.15 | SportChick | can someone tell me what differences (bugs, etc.) there were between 1.10.2 and 1.10.4? |
| 00:10.24 | Tupone | what is usb or old game port? |
| 00:10.32 | orchid | sound card port |
| 00:10.35 | Tupone | I prefer the last |
| 00:10.38 | Tupone | ok |
| 00:10.51 | Tupone | what kind of audio? |
| 00:10.55 | orchid | SportChick: there should be a changleog you can see |
| 00:11.12 | SportChick | if it's on bzflag.org, we still can't get there |
| 00:11.21 | orchid | its creative sb |
| 00:11.33 | orchid | SportChick: ahh, lemme check |
| 00:13.17 | orchid | SportChick: http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/bzflag/bzflag/ChangeLog?rev=1.169&view=markup |
| 00:13.52 | Tupone | SportChick: too much? |
| 00:13.54 | Tupone | I pm her part of the changelog |
| 00:13.56 | Tupone | orchid: SBlive ? |
| 00:13.58 | Tupone | orchid: ? |
| 00:14.11 | orchid | Tupone: yes |
| 00:14.53 | Tupone | emu10k1-gp is loaded? |
| 00:14.57 | Tupone | lsmod :) |
| 00:15.28 | orchid | emu10k1-gp 1448 0 (unused) |
| 00:15.52 | orchid | emu10k1-gp 1448 0 (unused) |
| 00:15.52 | orchid | gameport 1484 0 [adi emu10k1-gp] |
| 00:15.54 | SportChick | heh |
| 00:16.05 | Tupone | joydev |
| 00:16.11 | orchid | hmm? |
| 00:16.34 | orchid | that is a module? |
| 00:16.39 | Tupone | yeah |
| 00:16.49 | orchid | not available to me |
| 00:17.10 | orchid | modprobe: Can't locate module joydev |
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| 00:17.19 | Tupone | input ? |
| 00:17.28 | SportChick | thanks tupone and orchid |
| 00:17.34 | SportChick | ~Tupone++ |
| 00:17.36 | Tupone | youre welcome |
| 00:17.36 | SportChick | ~orchid++ |
| 00:17.49 | orchid | input is loaded |
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| 00:18.01 | orchid | ~karma |
| 00:18.01 | | orchid has karma of 4 |
| 00:18.03 | Tupone | what kernel version ? |
| 00:18.05 | orchid | :) |
| 00:18.15 | Tupone | ~karma |
| 00:18.15 | | tupone has karma of 9 |
| 00:18.18 | orchid | 2.4.20 |
| 00:18.42 | Tupone | tryed a cat /dev/js0 ? |
| 00:18.48 | orchid | yes |
| 00:18.56 | Tupone | and what is the answer? |
| 00:19.24 | orchid | cat: /dev/js0: No such device |
| 00:19.24 | orchid | morcheeba:/home/orchid# ls -l /dev/js0 |
| 00:19.24 | orchid | cr--r--r-- 1 root games 13, 0 Feb 22 15:03 /dev/js0 |
| 00:19.37 | orchid | it lies |
| 00:19.48 | orchid | cat is lying |
| 00:19.55 | Tupone | this is ls |
| 00:20.12 | orchid | above ls ^^^ |
| 00:20.22 | Tupone | ah ok! |
| 00:20.24 | orchid | morcheeba:/home/orchid# cat /dev/js0 |
| 00:20.24 | orchid | cat: /dev/js0: No such device |
| 00:20.37 | Tupone | so it is not in |
| 00:20.55 | orchid | same with /dev/input/js* |
| 00:20.56 | Tupone | if you had devfs, you cannot see if the device |
| 00:21.01 | Tupone | sry |
| 00:21.23 | Tupone | if you had devfs, if the device does not exist in the kernel, you cannot see the entry |
| 00:21.36 | orchid | ahh |
| 00:21.46 | Tupone | you miss the joydev |
| 00:21.58 | Tupone | try to see if is available from debian |
| 00:22.10 | Tupone | otherwise you have to regenerate a kernel |
| 00:22.24 | orchid | yuck |
| 00:23.02 | orchid | the next time i compile a kernel, i will enable EVERYTHING |
| 00:23.18 | orchid | at least as modules |
| 00:23.56 | Tupone | this kernel is generated by you? or it is a debian package? |
| 00:24.14 | orchid | this is one i made to get vmware to work |
| 00:24.29 | Tupone | so you just get to change a bit. |
| 00:24.35 | Tupone | it does not take to much |
| 00:24.41 | orchid | hmm |
| 00:24.47 | orchid | easy for you to say ;-) |
| 00:24.55 | orchid | its hard for me |
| 00:27.06 | Patlabor221 | yeah SportChick it's raining here too |
| 00:27.09 | Patlabor221 | rain is good |
| 00:27.12 | Patlabor221 | water is life |
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| 00:47.06 | bryjen | there's a whole stack of modules to get gameport joystick working. they broke it up into pieces, modularized |
| 00:47.53 | orchid | yeah i dont even have js support in the kernel |
| 00:48.04 | orchid | but it loaded some js module |
| 00:48.11 | orchid | dont know what thats about |
| 00:53.34 | bryjen | hmm. I've got files in /lib/modules/2.4.25/kernel/drivers/char/joystick but the don't want to load |
| 00:54.17 | bryjen | ack! this PC doesn't have a gameport. Must be remnents of the previous PC's config |
| 00:54.31 | bryjen | ~spell remnent |
| 00:54.33 | | possible spellings for remnent: remnant eminent remnants ruminant remount regnant permanent preeminent rennet raiment reinvent prominent remnant's |
| 00:57.29 | orchid | hehe |
| 00:59.26 | Blue_Beard | Hi, orchid. Sorry.. I wasn't at my desk. :) |
| 01:01.01 | Blue_Beard | And hey, JB. :) |
| 01:03.39 | JBdiGriz | :) |
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| 01:04.46 | Blue_Beard | How's it going? |
| 01:05.22 | orchid | im fighting my kernel |
| 01:05.38 | orchid | where have you been hiding spiff? |
| 01:05.43 | Blue_Beard | So make popcorn out of it. ;) |
| 01:06.14 | Blue_Beard | Around. :) |
| 01:07.42 | JBdiGriz | School? |
| 01:08.40 | Blue_Beard | What is school? ;) |
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| 01:11.05 | DavidF | hi |
| 01:12.25 | Blue_Beard | 'lo. |
| 01:12.38 | DavidF | Is there ever a situation where BZDB.eval(StateDatabase::BZDB_SHOTRADIUS) would return NaN when called midgame from doUpdateMotion()? |
| 01:14.07 | DavidF | It seems to be happening to me. I'm working on improving the shot evasion in RobotPlayer. |
| 01:17.16 | SportChick | hmph...don't say hi to ME, spiffy |
| 01:17.40 | Blue_Beard | You didn't say hi to ME. ;) |
| 01:17.41 | Blue_Beard | LoL |
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| 01:18.58 | orchid | yes she did :) |
| 01:19.19 | Blue_Beard | Ohhhhh. You called me Spiffy... that one isn't highlighted. Ima fix that. |
| 01:19.23 | Blue_Beard | Sorry SportChick. :) |
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| 01:21.57 | SportChick | heh |
| 01:22.10 | SportChick | did too! twice! |
| 01:23.16 | DavidF | Funny, BZDB_SHOTRADIUS doesn't appear to be initialized anywhere. But it's used in SegmentedShotStrategy::checkHit |
| 01:23.34 | DavidF | That's why it's NaN I guess. |
| 01:23.36 | Blue_Beard | Someone say Spiffy again? |
| 01:24.13 | DavidF | Now I need to figure out why SegmentedShotStrategy::checkHit still works. |
| 01:28.04 | SportChick | spiffy |
| 01:28.05 | SportChick | spiff |
| 01:28.08 | SportChick | spacey |
| 01:28.13 | SportChick | space |
| 01:28.16 | Blue_Beard | Hmm.. spiffy still isn't showing up. :| |
| 01:28.17 | Blue_Beard | Strange. |
| 01:28.19 | SportChick | hehe |
| 01:28.32 | SportChick | dunno if it works if you're IN the room |
| 01:28.35 | SportChick | try going somwhere else |
| 01:28.41 | SportChick | in pm or something |
| 01:28.49 | Blue_Beard | Okies.. now try spiffy. :) |
| 01:28.52 | SportChick | spiffy |
| 01:28.56 | Blue_Beard | Ahhh.. that was it. |
| 01:28.58 | SportChick | heh |
| 01:29.19 | Blue_Beard | Xchat says to separate them with comma's... but it didn't say to separate them with a comma only (no space). |
| 01:29.19 | SportChick | or as kp said earlier today: SmartChick |
| 01:29.23 | Blue_Beard | Silly thing. |
| 01:29.39 | Blue_Beard | kp? |
| 01:30.00 | SportChick | kernel panic |
| 01:30.07 | Blue_Beard | He's been back?! |
| 01:30.15 | Blue_Beard | Haven't talked to that curmudgeon in ages. :) |
| 01:30.31 | SportChick | heh...I see him all the time in secretplace |
| 01:31.06 | Blue_Beard | Ohhhh. That'd be why then. |
| 01:31.22 | DavidF | I must go check CVS and then file a bug report if it hasn't been fixed. It seems that shots simply do not have a radius anymore. |
| 01:32.52 | DavidF | Looks like it's fixed in CVS, so nevermind. |
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| 01:36.03 | SportChick | who doesn't spiffy play anymore? |
| 01:36.37 | Blue_Beard | :-S |
| 01:36.48 | SportChick | grrrr..whY |
| 01:37.14 | Blue_Beard | Lack of interest.. mean players.. more important things to do. :) |
| 01:37.24 | SportChick | we have fun, nice players on sp |
| 01:37.31 | SportChick | for the most part... |
| 01:37.34 | SportChick | good admin team |
| 01:37.39 | SportChick | they keep things clean |
| 01:38.07 | Blue_Beard | That still doesn't solve the other two reasons. ;) |
| 01:38.08 | Blue_Beard | Hehe. |
| 01:38.43 | SportChick | true |
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| 01:49.20 | DavidF | hi again |
| 01:50.45 | DavidF | I've modified the bot evasion code so that it's impossible to shoot them on the ground with normal except from very close distances, and they only jump when they really need to. |
| 01:51.23 | DavidF | typo "with normal shots" |
| 01:51.25 | learner | which bot? |
| 01:51.50 | DavidF | In RobotPlayer |
| 01:52.17 | DavidF | Grabbed the newest from CVS |
| 01:52.56 | learner | so not roger, but solo bot |
| 01:53.03 | DavidF | Yeah. |
| 01:53.56 | DavidF | I tried to make it evade as little as possible, while still being more or less unhittable. |
| 01:56.39 | DavidF | Where should I post it? I've never used diff, and the changes are in one contiguous block of code. |
| 01:58.50 | DavidF | I can probably go one step further and make it evade the most threatening shot, to reduce jumps. |
| 01:59.46 | DavidF | A show I like is about to start. Gotta go. |