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| 00:19.38 | LordBroctree | hello? |
| 00:20.08 | LordBroctree | i need some help |
| 00:20.30 | LordBroctree | helloooo |
| 00:21.38 | TyroneFHornigh | You might get more response if you were a little more specific in your request. |
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| 00:23.00 | LordBroctree | i download the installer and i installed it. I am on a Mac os X and all the installer gave me was the bzflag icon to get into the game. It didn't come with bzfs or bzedit or anything |
| 00:23.29 | LordBroctree | so how do i get bzfs |
| 00:23.49 | TyroneFHornigh | bzfs is included in the application. You can start it within the client, or you can start it from a command line. |
| 00:24.07 | LordBroctree | where int he client |
| 00:25.12 | LordBroctree | ok |
| 00:25.19 | LordBroctree | then how do i become admin |
| 00:25.34 | LordBroctree | r u guys comp. engineers? or just helping |
| 00:25.36 | captain_proton | you can't do that if you start the server from within the client |
| 00:25.41 | captain_proton | you need to start it from cmdline in that case |
| 00:25.54 | LordBroctree | and i get that where? |
| 00:25.57 | captain_proton | you can either set up the groups stuff (non-trivial) or just specify a password on the command line |
| 00:26.07 | LordBroctree | o ok |
| 00:26.07 | captain_proton | open up a terminal |
| 00:26.09 | LordBroctree | ill try that |
| 00:26.10 | captain_proton | and start it there |
| 00:26.21 | LordBroctree | brb |
| 00:26.24 | LordBroctree | i think |
| 00:27.04 | TyroneFHornigh | BZFlag.app/Contents/MacOS/bzfs |
| 00:31.11 | LordBroctree | so i just type / password ? |
| 00:31.18 | LordBroctree | without spaces of course |
| 00:31.58 | creeperz | do you have the password set in the cmdline? |
| 00:32.19 | creeperz | -passwd "password" |
| 00:32.40 | LordBroctree | when i go on and start server |
| 00:32.47 | LordBroctree | i can go no once then it dissapears |
| 00:33.12 | LordBroctree | let me try again |
| 00:34.49 | LordBroctree | um.. i typed in /password then the password i want and it says wrong password |
| 00:35.08 | captain_proton | LordBroctree: you have to give it the password on the command line for bzfs |
| 00:35.14 | captain_proton | only then will /password work |
| 00:35.30 | captain_proton | /password is for identifying once you're logged in |
| 00:35.51 | LordBroctree | now im getting confused |
| 00:36.20 | captain_proton | once the server is running, its too late to set a password |
| 00:36.35 | LordBroctree | then how do u do it before |
| 00:36.46 | LordBroctree | and thx for all the help your giving me |
| 00:36.46 | captain_proton | by starting the server from the command line |
| 00:36.52 | captain_proton | and specifying a password on that command line |
| 00:37.12 | LordBroctree | the command line is the / right? |
| 00:37.59 | captain_proton | no |
| 00:38.04 | captain_proton | the command line is a feature of your operating system |
| 00:38.11 | captain_proton | you can get to it by starting a terminal |
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| 00:46.16 | creeperz | how do you open a prompt in Mac OSX? |
| 00:47.13 | captain_proton | <captain_proton> you can get to it by starting a terminal |
| 00:47.38 | creeperz | how do you start a terminal? |
| 00:47.51 | TyroneFHornigh | Run the terminal app. |
| 00:48.05 | captain_proton | :P |
| 00:48.15 | TyroneFHornigh | If you are a bit more ambitious, install X11 and run xterm. |
| 00:48.16 | creeperz | where is that? |
| 00:48.27 | creeperz | lets not dive into that |
| 00:48.28 | captain_proton | usually its in the dock by default |
| 00:48.31 | TyroneFHornigh | Are you on a mac? |
| 00:48.33 | captain_proton | failing that, in the applications directory |
| 00:48.45 | creeperz | no |
| 00:48.48 | creeperz | im on windows |
| 00:48.57 | creeperz | LordBroctree is on mac |
| 00:49.07 | captain_proton | so...why are you asking all that? :P |
| 00:49.40 | creeperz | cuz hes a bit confused |
| 00:50.10 | TyroneFHornigh | and you're trying to confuse him more? |
| 00:50.23 | creeperz | no |
| 00:50.25 | creeperz | clarify |
| 00:50.35 | captain_proton | why not let him ask if he needs |
| 00:50.51 | creeperz | cuz hes asking me in private, maybe? |
| 00:51.00 | captain_proton | sigh |
| 00:51.34 | TyroneFHornigh | He's looking at his mac, he probably sees the terminal icon in the dock. If he's asking you in private, then he needs to talk to one of the people who has a mac, not windows. |
| 00:51.55 | creeperz | then tell him that |
| 00:52.01 | creeperz | he asked me, ok? |
| 00:52.13 | TyroneFHornigh | he's talking to you in private. :P |
| 00:52.13 | creeperz | dont go barking up my tree |
| 00:52.20 | LordBroctree | nope right here |
| 00:53.02 | creeperz | *He* asked *Me* |
| 00:53.20 | TyroneFHornigh | so answer him. |
| 00:53.25 | creeperz | WTF?! |
| 00:53.29 | creeperz | what do you think im doing |
| 00:53.40 | LordBroctree | hm.. terminal app. on mac |
| 00:53.53 | captain_proton | creeperz: perhaps it would be more efficient to just point him to a mac person rather than relaying questions? :P |
| 00:54.08 | TyroneFHornigh | you're asking us. if you don't know the answer, you should respond "I don't know". It's simple, honest, and a lot easier than what you're doing. |
| 00:54.09 | creeperz | i dont know any mac people on right now |
| 00:54.30 | creeperz | why would it matter? its going to get asked anyways |
| 00:54.42 | TyroneFHornigh | but captain_proton is sitting in front of a mac :P |
| 00:54.47 | captain_proton | TyroneFHornigh: nope |
| 00:54.57 | creeperz | and how the hell should i have known that? |
| 00:55.07 | TyroneFHornigh | Cool, I like IRIX as well. |
| 00:55.10 | captain_proton | i686-pc-linux-gnu, technically |
| 00:55.16 | LordBroctree | gusy is there even such thing as a term. app. on mac |
| 00:55.26 | TyroneFHornigh | oooh, I thought you were using a real machine. |
| 00:55.53 | captain_proton | nope. i just call it a workstation, because its where i get stuff done |
| 00:56.01 | TyroneFHornigh | LordBroctree: open the Applications, doubleclick to open Utilities. The terminal application is there. |
| 00:56.24 | creeperz | yippee! help! |
| 00:56.42 | TyroneFHornigh | It will present you with a Unix command line. Have you worked with the shell before? |
| 00:57.30 | LordBroctree | the shell?(take that as a no) |
| 00:58.36 | TyroneFHornigh | You might need to run through a Unix tutorial before all of this will make sense. The mac client is designed to give you a simple interface rather than giving you the full power of the server. |
| 00:59.09 | LordBroctree | ok |
| 00:59.44 | Grumbler | hey, TyroneFHornigh is back |
| 01:00.10 | TyroneFHornigh | You have to learn a bit about Unix directories, how to change directories and how to execute applications. It's not unapproachable. |
| 01:00.27 | TyroneFHornigh | Grumbler: I never left, I'm just working offsite for a bit. |
| 01:01.53 | Grumbler | ...and after your done learning all of those, learn some borland c++ and tell me how to fix this error :) |
| 01:02.36 | captain_proton | borland? yikes |
| 01:02.47 | captain_proton | i thought that was dead 5 years ago :) |
| 01:02.48 | TyroneFHornigh | actually, you should learn how to ignore Grumbler, he often has these wild delusions of conspiracies and the adequacy of certain application environments. ;) |
| 01:03.10 | captain_proton | hehe |
| 01:03.27 | Grumbler | the abuse, the abuse......yeah yeah |
| 01:03.29 | captain_proton | welp, off to go get beat up |
| 01:03.47 | LordBroctree | so what do i do with the term.? and y does it say welcome to darwin |
| 01:04.09 | creeperz | Darwinism :-) |
| 01:04.35 | TyroneFHornigh | That's the Unix message of the day default in Mac OS X. The base system is called Darwin, and has nothing to to with Darwinism. |
| 01:04.41 | Grumbler | LordBroctree, how did you invoke bzfs.....did you just type bzfs |
| 01:04.53 | LordBroctree | i dont have bzfs |
| 01:05.28 | TyroneFHornigh | He's using the Mac client, bzfs is included in the application so you can choose "Start Server" and get a basic server running. |
| 01:05.45 | TyroneFHornigh | Where did you install the bzflag app? |
| 01:05.54 | LordBroctree | desktop |
| 01:06.34 | TyroneFHornigh | The command to change directories is "cd". Type "cd Desktop" |
| 01:06.39 | TyroneFHornigh | no quotes |
| 01:06.55 | LordBroctree | i cant screw anything up right? |
| 01:07.15 | creeperz | make sure it is just how they spell it (capital letters must be capital) |
| 01:07.25 | TyroneFHornigh | You can easily screw things up if you type the wrong commands, but that would be something like rm, which deletes things |
| 01:07.44 | LordBroctree | wats cd stand for then |
| 01:08.03 | creeperz | change directory |
| 01:08.06 | creeperz | IIRC |
| 01:08.06 | TyroneFHornigh | change directory. These are standard Unix commands, so feel free to verify with anyone else around. |
| 01:09.07 | LordBroctree | when it type this wats it going to do? |
| 01:09.17 | LordBroctree | i mean I |
| 01:09.24 | TyroneFHornigh | Just change the default directory for the shell that you're running. |
| 01:09.28 | creeperz | its going to take you to your Desktop |
| 01:09.44 | LordBroctree | ok |
| 01:09.47 | LordBroctree | ill try |
| 01:09.48 | TyroneFHornigh | The command to list files is "ls". You will type "ls" as the next command |
| 01:10.20 | LordBroctree | is that an I or a 1 |
| 01:10.27 | LordBroctree | ok 1 |
| 01:10.32 | TyroneFHornigh | It's an ell |
| 01:10.33 | Tupone | neither |
| 01:10.49 | LordBroctree | no mean the 1 in the 1s |
| 01:10.54 | LordBroctree | its a one right |
| 01:10.55 | creeperz | ls |
| 01:10.57 | LordBroctree | not an I |
| 01:10.58 | creeperz | ell |
| 01:11.03 | TyroneFHornigh | You should see a number of names which you should recognize from your desktop. |
| 01:11.27 | LordBroctree | its the number one s right thats wat i typ |
| 01:11.30 | Tupone | lower L |
| 01:11.38 | LordBroctree | o its an a l |
| 01:11.44 | LordBroctree | looks like a one to me |
| 01:11.50 | LordBroctree | if you look closely |
| 01:11.57 | TyroneFHornigh | the joys of standard fonts |
| 01:11.59 | creeperz | yea, some fonts are dumb like that :-) |
| 01:12.07 | LordBroctree | here goes |
| 01:12.24 | LordBroctree | ok |
| 01:12.37 | LordBroctree | wait |
| 01:12.40 | TyroneFHornigh | One of the files listed should be something like BZFlag.app |
| 01:12.54 | LordBroctree | its also in a folder on the desktop |
| 01:13.02 | LordBroctree | sry |
| 01:13.12 | TyroneFHornigh | What's the name of the folder? |
| 01:13.22 | LordBroctree | um.. Nicky |
| 01:13.31 | TyroneFHornigh | Try changing to Nicky |
| 01:13.51 | Tupone | cd Nicky |
| 01:14.23 | LordBroctree | ok |
| 01:14.42 | LordBroctree | then Is? |
| 01:14.49 | TyroneFHornigh | ls |
| 01:14.55 | LordBroctree | k |
| 01:15.17 | LordBroctree | then |
| 01:15.43 | TyroneFHornigh | Have you found BZFlag.app? |
| 01:16.06 | LordBroctree | hey wat the |
| 01:16.14 | LordBroctree | it showed the desktop again |
| 01:17.19 | TyroneFHornigh | With those two commands, you should be able to navigate down to the directory. Let us know when you have. |
| 01:18.38 | TyroneFHornigh | It's Wednesday :) |
| 01:18.59 | LordBroctree | ok got it |
| 01:20.02 | TyroneFHornigh | You see a directory with the name BZFlag.app. "cd BZFlag.app/Contents/MacOS" |
| 01:20.33 | LordBroctree | ok |
| 01:20.33 | TyroneFHornigh | You should see bzfs in that directory. |
| 01:20.37 | LordBroctree | no match |
| 01:21.02 | LordBroctree | oops did a little mistake |
| 01:21.47 | LordBroctree | "no such file or directory" |
| 01:22.11 | TyroneFHornigh | Try each component separately then. "cd BZFlag.app" |
| 01:22.34 | LordBroctree | same thing |
| 01:22.50 | TyroneFHornigh | Is there a directory listed with that name when you did ls? |
| 01:22.58 | LordBroctree | yeah |
| 01:23.29 | LordBroctree | it says BZFlag 1.10.2.app |
| 01:24.05 | TyroneFHornigh | Computers aren't very bright, they need the exact name. "cd BZFlag 1.10.2.app" |
| 01:24.14 | LordBroctree | k |
| 01:24.41 | LordBroctree | ?? "too many arguements" |
| 01:25.05 | TyroneFHornigh | Unix doesn't like spaces. Try enclosing the name in the double quotes like this |
| 01:25.11 | TyroneFHornigh | cd "BZFlag 1.10.2.app" |
| 01:25.17 | TyroneFHornigh | you need the quotes in this case |
| 01:25.21 | LordBroctree | jw but what else can you do with the terminal? |
| 01:25.23 | learner | cd BZFlag_1.10.2.app, iirc |
| 01:25.46 | TyroneFHornigh | I don't think underscores translate in the shell. |
| 01:25.49 | LordBroctree | um.. il go witht he quotes |
| 01:26.06 | TyroneFHornigh | You can do absolutely anything you want with the terminal. Just be careful. |
| 01:26.10 | learner | i specifically avoided having a space in the name for reasons of explaining things like this.. |
| 01:26.32 | learner | ah.. it's a dash |
| 01:26.52 | LordBroctree | like? |
| 01:26.59 | TyroneFHornigh | I usually avoid spaces in the name as well. dash or underscore doesn't work in xterm. |
| 01:27.15 | LordBroctree | is there a tutorial on this thing |
| 01:27.30 | TyroneFHornigh | Thousands of tutorials. It's called the Unix shell. |
| 01:27.48 | LordBroctree | how do i get them? |
| 01:27.48 | TyroneFHornigh | Are you on Panther or Jaguar? |
| 01:27.55 | fiberchunks | dash and underscore don't work in MacOS xterm? |
| 01:27.58 | fiberchunks | that's odd |
| 01:28.01 | LordBroctree | "No such file or directory" |
| 01:28.03 | TyroneFHornigh | Search the web, start on google. |
| 01:28.07 | LordBroctree | Panther |
| 01:28.12 | LordBroctree | i mean Jaguar |
| 01:28.33 | TyroneFHornigh | The name of the shell is tcsh in Jaguar. They became sensible and made the default bash in Panther. |
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| 01:29.02 | fiberchunks | tcsh, fancy mac people :) |
| 01:29.22 | learner | I prefer bash |
| 01:29.39 | LordBroctree | ok so now what do i do |
| 01:29.47 | learner | where are you? |
| 01:29.57 | LordBroctree | ? |
| 01:29.57 | TyroneFHornigh | Did you succeed in changing to the BZFlag directory? |
| 01:30.05 | learner | type "pwd" (means "path to working directory") |
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| 01:30.14 | LordBroctree | nope |
| 01:30.34 | TyroneFHornigh | what is the output of pwd? |
| 01:30.40 | LordBroctree | pwd BZFlag 1.10.2.app ? |
| 01:30.47 | TyroneFHornigh | just "pwd" |
| 01:30.56 | LordBroctree | ok |
| 01:31.23 | TyroneFHornigh | It should be something like ~/Desktop/Nicky |
| 01:31.47 | LordBroctree | yep |
| 01:32.14 | LordBroctree | so what is the shell |
| 01:32.23 | TyroneFHornigh | the Unix command line interface |
| 01:32.53 | LordBroctree | um.. nvm what now |
| 01:33.15 | learner | what was the output of pwd? |
| 01:33.38 | TyroneFHornigh | We'll try something a little more tricky type "cd B" and then press the <tab> key |
| 01:34.21 | LordBroctree | then enter? |
| 01:35.01 | TyroneFHornigh | Did it type the rest of the directory name for you? |
| 01:35.30 | LordBroctree | it typed BZFlag |
| 01:36.00 | TyroneFHornigh | How many files are listed in that directory? |
| 01:36.07 | LordBroctree | and the output for learners question was if i can get it printed "/Users/clchurch/Desktop/Nicky" |
| 01:36.28 | LordBroctree | says no such file or directory |
| 01:36.34 | learner | so BZFlag is in the Nicky folder? |
| 01:36.44 | LordBroctree | yep |
| 01:36.46 | learner | what's the name of the BZFlag icon? (exactly) |
| 01:37.15 | LordBroctree | BZFlag-1.10.2 |
| 01:37.19 | learner | okay |
| 01:37.47 | TyroneFHornigh | That sounds like there's a - in the file name. |
| 01:37.51 | LordBroctree | cd BZFlag-1.10.2 ? |
| 01:37.57 | learner | so type "cd BZFlag-1.10.2.app/Contents/MacOS/" |
| 01:38.11 | LordBroctree | ok |
| 01:38.51 | LordBroctree | no match |
| 01:39.44 | TyroneFHornigh | What's the exact output of the ls command? (cut and paste) |
| 01:40.18 | LordBroctree | ls command. um.. that shows what ? the folders? and .apps |
| 01:40.25 | learner | cd /Users/clchurch/Desktop/Nicky/BZFlag-1.10.2.app/Contents/MacOS/ |
| 01:40.41 | learner | it shows a listing of the folder that you are in |
| 01:41.16 | LordBroctree | do you want all the folders fromt he output from my folder (Nicky) |
| 01:43.04 | TyroneFHornigh | The BZFlag application should be enough |
| 01:43.35 | LordBroctree | k |
| 01:43.48 | LordBroctree | BZFlag-1.10.2.app |
| 01:44.49 | TyroneFHornigh | Try the "cd B"<tab> |
| 01:45.03 | TyroneFHornigh | Type a - and then another <tab> |
| 01:46.11 | TyroneFHornigh | What did it type for you after that? |
| 01:46.16 | fiberchunks | or cd B<tab><tab> -- perhaps there's more than one thing with a big B in his dir ... |
| 01:46.40 | TyroneFHornigh | It completes to BZFlag, so there's clearly another BZFlag something in that dir |
| 01:46.46 | fiberchunks | ah |
| 01:46.51 | LordBroctree | ack which one first |
| 01:47.17 | fiberchunks | pay attention to TyroneFHornigh, I'm just interrupting |
| 01:47.20 | TyroneFHornigh | It doesn't really matter. Until we can get to the bzfs, you're stuck. |
| 01:47.40 | LordBroctree | so cd B tab then after that a - tab? |
| 01:47.55 | LordBroctree | in the same sentence? |
| 01:47.59 | TyroneFHornigh | See what happens, that won't hurt anything. |
| 01:48.28 | LordBroctree | k |
| 01:49.14 | LordBroctree | the a - thing doesn't work |
| 01:49.24 | TyroneFHornigh | What does it do? |
| 01:49.35 | LordBroctree | but after i entered cd B tab it siad not a directory |
| 01:49.56 | TyroneFHornigh | Don't hit enter during any of that command |
| 01:50.04 | fiberchunks | tab is not to be typed literraly -- but type cd B (and then the tab key) |
| 01:50.42 | LordBroctree | i know thats what i did |
| 01:50.53 | LordBroctree | im not that clueless |
| 01:51.05 | fiberchunks | hey, you never know |
| 01:51.15 | learner | LordBroctree: did you type the command I pasted earlier? |
| 01:51.26 | learner | cd /Users/clchurch/Desktop/Nicky/BZFlag-1.10.2.app/Contents/MacOS/ |
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| 01:51.43 | LordBroctree | yeah let me dble check the output |
| 01:52.04 | LordBroctree | "no match" |
| 01:52.11 | learner | hrm |
| 01:52.54 | learner | you did copy-paste I hope? |
| 01:53.14 | TyroneFHornigh | Now is probably the time to learn a bit about parameters. Try typing "ls -l" and paste a 3 lines of the output here. Don't put more than 3 lines, or people will get annoyed. |
| 01:54.04 | LordBroctree | is that dash or minus |
| 01:54.09 | LordBroctree | and a space? |
| 01:54.38 | learner | I mean select the text I wrote, copy it, and paste it into your terminal |
| 01:54.40 | fiberchunks | ls <space> <dash>l |
| 01:54.47 | LordBroctree | it wont let me copy but i did word for word |
| 01:54.58 | LordBroctree | got it |
| 01:55.22 | LordBroctree | -rwxr-xr-x 1 clchurch staff 1780364 Jan 10 20:15 BZFlag |
| 01:55.32 | LordBroctree | uh let me do it one by one |
| 01:55.42 | learner | uh.. what does "pwd" say again.. |
| 01:55.47 | learner | you're already there |
| 01:56.15 | LordBroctree | grr now i cant copy |
| 01:56.45 | learner | no matter.. you're there |
| 01:57.07 | learner | type "./bzfs -cr -d -d -d" |
| 01:57.21 | learner | you should see some text displayed |
| 01:57.26 | learner | if you don't lemme know |
| 01:57.43 | learner | if you do, press control-c |
| 01:57.47 | TyroneFHornigh | learner knows more about actually running the server, so I'm going to let him take over. |
| 01:58.10 | LordBroctree | There is a voting arbiter with the following settings: |
| 01:58.30 | learner | great |
| 01:58.33 | learner | that's the server |
| 01:58.41 | LordBroctree | vote time is 60 seconds |
| 01:58.41 | TyroneFHornigh | :-D |
| 01:58.58 | LordBroctree | veto time is 20 seconds |
| 01:58.58 | learner | you just specified to run with debug turned on using a catch-the-flag random map |
| 01:59.23 | LordBroctree | thats some of it |
| 01:59.29 | learner | i know |
| 01:59.30 | learner | that's fine |
| 01:59.38 | LordBroctree | o i type in the port |
| 01:59.39 | learner | no need to paste the rest |
| 01:59.55 | learner | i know what it says :) |
| 02:00.04 | LordBroctree | so um.. this is kinda confusing me more |
| 02:00.13 | learner | you wanted to run the server, yes? |
| 02:00.26 | LordBroctree | yes |
| 02:00.49 | learner | well, when you select "Start Server" in the game, it actually runs that thing that you just ran |
| 02:01.24 | LordBroctree | ok so then um.. am i admin of that server? |
| 02:01.25 | learner | only difference is that it generates a whole slew of dash options like -d and -cr |
| 02:01.40 | TyroneFHornigh | He would like to set the password of the server |
| 02:01.55 | learner | to set the password there is a -password option |
| 02:02.02 | learner | type "./bzfs -help" |
| 02:02.12 | LordBroctree | in the bzflag client? |
| 02:02.14 | TyroneFHornigh | First type <ctl>-c to get out of the server you just ran |
| 02:02.15 | learner | you'll see a _long_ list of options available |
| 02:02.17 | fiberchunks | i.e. ./bzfs -password iamgod |
| 02:02.26 | fiberchunks | but you need other options first |
| 02:02.30 | fiberchunks | rather, as well |
| 02:03.00 | TyroneFHornigh | That's holding down the <ctrl> key while you push the c key |
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| 02:03.18 | learner | it's a lot to take in on the first time, don't worry |
| 02:03.48 | LordBroctree | ok did what Tyrone said |
| 02:04.06 | learner | so you see a command prompt like before now, yes? |
| 02:04.21 | LordBroctree | so how do i get there again? and change options and things |
| 02:04.37 | LordBroctree | prompt? |
| 02:04.53 | LordBroctree | yeah |
| 02:04.55 | TyroneFHornigh | It's the string that is typed before you start typing your command. |
| 02:05.14 | learner | type "pwd" and put the result in here |
| 02:05.29 | fiberchunks | i.e. $ or # or me@mymachine: $ <<<<< those are generally prompts |
| 02:05.34 | TyroneFHornigh | copy and paste |
| 02:05.41 | LordBroctree | yeah it shows it |
| 02:06.04 | LordBroctree | i guess |
| 02:06.04 | *** join/#bzflag your_dog (~jake@216-24-110-219.access.naxs.com) |
| 02:06.04 | TyroneFHornigh | What's the output from "pwd"? |
| 02:06.11 | LordBroctree | here you take a look at it |
| 02:06.25 | learner | pwd always tell you (and us) where you "are" on your hard drive |
| 02:06.41 | LordBroctree | "/Users/clchurch/Desktop/Nicky/BZFlag-1.10.2.app/Contents/MacOS" |
| 02:06.42 | learner | we need to know that to be able to answer your questions |
| 02:06.50 | learner | perfect |
| 02:07.24 | learner | to get there again next time, you can type: cd ~/Desktop/Nicky/BZFlag-1.10.2.app/Contents/MacOS |
| 02:07.26 | your_dog | howdy y'all |
| 02:07.42 | learner | you are already there now, so no need to do that again |
| 02:07.55 | learner | heya your_dog |