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| 00:01.54 | TimRiker | bryjen (gone): cool. |
| 00:04.55 | Patlabor221 | ok so what do do with a rabbit with colorblind, and a hunter with MQ? |
| 00:04.55 | Patlabor221 | nether of those cases makes sense |
| 00:05.32 | Patlabor221 | A hunter with CB makes sense ( and kinda sucks ), tho doesn't it still show with the hunting feature? |
| 00:05.53 | Patlabor221 | and a rabbit with CB is pointless, cus they can just shoot anyone |
| 00:06.24 | Patlabor221 | a rabbit with MQ could be intersting, but I think the hunting feature still kicks in |
| 00:06.49 | Patlabor221 | should I disable those flag's drawing features in rabbit games? |
| 00:15.45 | larsl | Grrr. Any Linux GL wizards in here? |
| 00:16.50 | scanline | tasty |
| 00:17.19 | TimRiker | Patlabor221: hmm. they make sense for the other players in the game. I'd think just leave them. |
| 00:17.44 | TimRiker | should disable the seeking when you have CB or they have MQ |
| 00:18.08 | Patlabor221 | ok |
| 00:18.20 | Patlabor221 | when you are color blind everyone shows as rogue right? |
| 00:18.20 | larsl | bzflag (and all other GL programs) started to use software rendering instead of hardware acceleration. It's very slow. |
| 00:18.30 | TimRiker | ~tell larsl about ask |
| 00:19.48 | TimRiker | larsl: sometimes DRI gets messed up do to driver bugs. stopping X, rmmoding the modules and restarting X might work. |
| 00:20.04 | TimRiker | rebooting would work too, but then you'd feel like a windows user. |
| 00:20.08 | Patlabor221 | if you using an nvidia card you should not be using DRI |
| 00:20.10 | scanline | larsl: if you just upgraded something it could also be that it's using the wrong libGL.so now |
| 00:20.34 | Patlabor221 | hmm looks like the colorblind color is not based on a team but hardcoded |
| 00:20.55 | Patlabor221 | it it's intent to make everyone show the same, or in a new "team" color? |
| 00:21.05 | TimRiker | Patlabor221: ugh.. should be rogue color/mesh/texture |
| 00:21.09 | Patlabor221 | ok |
| 00:21.14 | Patlabor221 | well there is no rouge mesh |
| 00:21.20 | Patlabor221 | never will be |
| 00:21.26 | Patlabor221 | team != mesh |
| 00:21.28 | TimRiker | generic mesh then. |
| 00:21.30 | Patlabor221 | player = mesh |
| 00:21.31 | Patlabor221 | yes |
| 00:21.52 | Patlabor221 | to make this work I'm moving the color calc into the scene node |
| 00:21.59 | TimRiker | might be interesting to not allow rogues to have meshes as a server option to encourage team play. |
| 00:22.13 | Patlabor221 | so when a player is added to the draw system it's given a "drawing team" |
| 00:22.22 | Patlabor221 | or just don't allow rogues |
| 00:22.28 | Patlabor221 | that would encourage team play :) |
| 00:22.42 | TimRiker | that already exists. I meant as another option. ;-) |
| 00:23.33 | Patlabor221 | i've also got all the drawing memebers for the tank sepeated and grouped together, may reorg them into a new class to help for the game lib |
| 00:24.20 | Patlabor221 | its interesting the color for the tank is set very frame presently |
| 00:24.20 | Patlabor221 | every ! very |
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| 00:29.53 | larsl | Removing the modules, restarting X, or rebooting didn't help. |
| 00:30.24 | larsl | And glxinfo says "direct rendering: yes". |
| 00:31.39 | creeperz | larsl: watch out for trogdor |
| 00:31.51 | Patlabor221 | larsl are you using the nvidia drivers or the DRI ones? |
| 00:32.17 | larsl | Patlabor221: nvidia, as far as I know. I just updated them. |
| 00:32.32 | Patlabor221 | did you remove the DRI lines from the X config? |
| 00:32.41 | Patlabor221 | and change the nv to nvidia? |
| 00:33.07 | larsl | I did that when I installed earlier versions of the driver. |
| 00:34.03 | Patlabor221 | check and make sure they didn't get reverted |
| 00:34.39 | larsl | No, it looks good. |
| 00:37.37 | Patlabor221 | odd |
| 00:38.02 | Patlabor221 | does it show the nvidia logo when X starts? |
| 00:38.27 | larsl | Yes. |
| 00:38.32 | larsl | This looks bad though: |
| 00:38.35 | larsl | Oops: 0000 |
| 00:38.40 | Patlabor221 | then it is loading them |
| 00:38.49 | larsl | And then a list of loaded modules, and a kernel call trace. |
| 00:38.49 | Patlabor221 | could the the libGL like the line of scan says |
| 00:38.54 | larsl | In dmesg. |
| 00:39.15 | Patlabor221 | I dono bout that stuff |
| 00:39.27 | scanline | oopses are bad |
| 00:39.34 | larsl | And lots of "0: NVRM: couldn't find pre-allocated memory!" |
| 00:41.34 | larsl | Looks like other people have problems with the new drivers too: http://slashdot.org/articles/03/12/23/0256236.shtml |
| 00:41.41 | Patlabor221 | anyone care if I reaname the player::addplayer to player::addToScene ? |
| 00:41.47 | Patlabor221 | since that's what it really does |
| 00:42.20 | larsl | Sounds good. |
| 00:42.54 | larsl | It's especially confusing since there's an addPlayer() in playing.cxx that actually adds messages to a player. |
| 00:43.02 | Patlabor221 | since there is allready a addPlayer function in playing.cxx |
| 00:49.20 | SportChick | ~dragon |
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| 00:55.15 | larsl | There. |
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| 00:57.40 | larsl | I'm getting core dumps in libGLcore sometimes when I connect to secretplace... I wonder if it's actually a bug in nvidia's library or if bzflag does something bad before that. |
| 00:57.41 | CIA-1 | 03brlcad * 10bzflag/BUGS: nice to have tupone fix bugs that I provoke |
| 00:59.17 | Patlabor221 | learner that bug is actualy a dupe |
| 00:59.24 | learner | i know |
| 00:59.27 | Patlabor221 | and I'm not sure if it's totalyfixed |
| 00:59.30 | learner | just moved it over from feature requests |
| 00:59.45 | Patlabor221 | haven't checked the world obejcts yet |
| 00:59.56 | learner | i was just about to test |
| 01:00.03 | learner | that's why i didn't close the other |
| 01:00.04 | Patlabor221 | I think they are still borked |
| 01:00.11 | learner | heh |
| 01:06.11 | Patlabor221 | there has to be a way to make it faster tho |
| 01:08.12 | Patlabor221 | hmm how can I put a set of float tripples in BZDB? |
| 01:08.56 | larsl | Space separated? |
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| 01:10.52 | Jaguar | hi |
| 01:11.19 | Patlabor221 | yeah but then what I call scanf each time |
| 01:11.30 | Jaguar | anyone want to match? |
| 01:11.31 | Patlabor221 | would be nice if BZDB could get them for me as a float* |
| 01:11.38 | larsl | Yes... |
| 01:11.48 | Patlabor221 | then I could put all the default non texture colors in the database |
| 01:11.55 | Patlabor221 | and they could be config overiden |
| 01:12.15 | Jaguar | hello! |
| 01:12.39 | Patlabor221 | now I need a map to test CB and MQ |
| 01:12.59 | Patlabor221 | hello |
| 01:13.01 | Patlabor221 | oh |
| 01:15.32 | larsl | Are burrowed tanks supposed to be invisible in the radar? |
| 01:16.24 | Patlabor221 | thought mac fixed that bug |
| 01:16.36 | learner | completely, no.. but mac made it so it was just the cross |
| 01:16.53 | Patlabor221 | ahh |
| 01:17.03 | larsl | Ah, OK. |
| 01:17.04 | Patlabor221 | what thinks ye all of this as a team base top texture? |
| 01:17.05 | Patlabor221 | http://ryoko.bakadigital.com/temp/alternate/blue_basetop.png |
| 01:17.06 | larsl | That's what I see. |
| 01:17.37 | Patlabor221 | cept the colors suck |
| 01:17.45 | larsl | Patlabor221: That looks good. |
| 01:18.07 | Patlabor221 | the code presently allows for a textured base as well |
| 01:18.24 | Patlabor221 | I was gonna make team color textures for the sides of the base too |
| 01:18.35 | Patlabor221 | so they don't look like a normal box from the side |
| 01:18.55 | Patlabor221 | like maybe put a color paint stripe on the bricks |
| 01:19.04 | Patlabor221 | or make it colored concrete |
| 01:20.07 | scanline | you should do bases the way pybzflag did them ;) |
| 01:20.27 | Patlabor221 | I was gonna, but I can't get to the shots on navi to see them |
| 01:20.37 | Patlabor221 | I recall them beeing cool |
| 01:20.44 | ninjer_proton | Patlabor221: you kinda have to see them in action |
| 01:20.45 | scanline | most of the shots died when our raid exploded before, but I think I at least have thumbnails |
| 01:20.52 | scanline | yeah.. they're animated :) |
| 01:20.59 | ninjer_proton | scanline: movie recorder working? :) |
| 01:21.04 | scanline | yeah |
| 01:21.07 | Patlabor221 | yeah that's what I remember |
| 01:21.27 | Patlabor221 | I'll do animated ones once I can have him ditch the no texture requirement |
| 01:21.42 | Patlabor221 | it's a pain in the ass to swap colors all over the place |
| 01:22.02 | scanline | gah, finally |
| 01:22.14 | scanline | sometimes trying to patch code while it's running can get messy |
| 01:22.46 | scanline | you rebuild one module, and all of a sudden subclasses of a class in it aren't really subclasses any more |
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| 01:23.25 | Jaguar | creeperz, you there? |
| 01:24.45 | ninjer_proton | hooray for ADD |
| 01:25.20 | CIA-1 | 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/ (7 files in 4 dirs): |
| 01:25.21 | scanline | well, there's also the fact that some people just don't 'get' IRC |
| 01:25.22 | CIA-1 | fix up coloring with no textures. |
| 01:25.24 | CIA-1 | only force white when using a texture for tanks ( still need to do buildings proper ). |
| 01:25.26 | CIA-1 | Replace override color with efectiveTeam, and set textures and colors properly so MQ and CB work with team color textures |
| 01:25.27 | scanline | they think it's like a phone call |
| 01:25.29 | CIA-1 | Add some folders to the VC7 project for org. |
| 01:25.31 | CIA-1 | Group player rendering vars |
| 01:25.33 | CIA-1 | change player::addplayer to player::addToScene since that's what it really does. |
| 01:25.52 | Patlabor221 | or IM |
| 01:26.21 | scanline | well, even with IM you don't have to know constantly whether the other person is really still at the computer |
| 01:26.27 | creeperz | could there be a way for a map object to have a custom image on it? tiled or stretched? |
| 01:26.35 | Patlabor221 | now to go get food and fix buildings and make the textued objects revert to colored if the texture load fails |
| 01:26.40 | creeperz | like a box with an emblem on it |
| 01:26.40 | Patlabor221 | not yet creeper |
| 01:26.44 | Patlabor221 | but soon |
| 01:26.50 | creeperz | but it will be soon? |
| 01:26.52 | creeperz | ok |
| 01:26.54 | creeperz | :-D |
| 01:26.54 | Patlabor221 | yes |
| 01:27.17 | Patlabor221 | not till 1.11 tho |
| 01:27.20 | Patlabor221 | for 1.12 release |
| 01:27.30 | creeperz | i see |
| 01:27.33 | creeperz | k thanks |
| 01:27.35 | Patlabor221 | the backend is there, but the map dosn't set the data yet |
| 01:27.49 | creeperz | ahh |
| 01:28.25 | creeperz | and one more question... |
| 01:28.39 | Patlabor221 | paste is not a food group :) |
| 01:28.49 | creeperz | when a tank is burrowed, it shows as a large X, but you cannot tell what color tank it is |
| 01:28.56 | Patlabor221 | yes |
| 01:29.08 | creeperz | will there be any "updates" on that? |
| 01:29.18 | Patlabor221 | I think that is part of the design |
| 01:29.19 | creeperz | or is just a plain large white X good enough? |
| 01:29.23 | Patlabor221 | the power of burrow |
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| 01:30.42 | Patlabor221 | time for food |
| 01:33.28 | learner | burrow was turning out to be a little too week.. that gives it a bit more power |
| 01:37.23 | creeperz | true |
| 01:37.35 | creeperz | but it should have at least your color if it iis your teammate |
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| 01:45.44 | larsl | There is actually a small colored point in the middle of the flag cross. |
| 01:47.28 | creeperz | hard to see |
| 01:49.11 | larsl | And the flag is always completely white on radar, even if I'm high above it - is that intended? |
| 02:04.55 | Nidhoggr | anyone compiling on windows with installer? |
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| 02:05.41 | Nidhoggr | not sure if I configure NSIS right in vs |
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| 02:20.58 | MrApathyCream | you rox0rs Patlabor221 |
| 02:21.19 | Patlabor221 | I do? |
| 02:21.30 | MrApathyCream | that you do |
| 02:21.32 | Bryan_W | yup |
| 02:21.39 | Patlabor221 | I thought the state of california would not let me do that anymore |
| 02:21.55 | Patlabor221 | that and the EPA injunction |
| 02:23.05 | MrApathyCream | the tank texs are very nice |
| 02:23.05 | Patlabor221 | I'm gonna turn off the emmision on the wabbit if texturing is off, I think it washes the image out too much |
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| 02:23.18 | Patlabor221 | ohh yeah they came out prety good |
| 02:23.22 | Patlabor221 | how is the color? |
| 02:23.23 | MrApathyCream | k |
| 02:23.27 | MrApathyCream | good |
| 02:23.34 | Patlabor221 | I'd like some more input on that front |
| 02:23.40 | stealth | why do i get no sound with bzflag? im using alsa and a 2.6.1 kernel, xmms and alsamixer work fine |
| 02:23.54 | Patlabor221 | you running KDE? |
| 02:23.56 | MrApathyCream | one question is, if rabbit is going to be orange, than all the munitions s/b orange |
| 02:24.16 | Patlabor221 | the rabbit is not ornage the hunter is orange, figured yellow went with that |
| 02:24.36 | MrApathyCream | hunter, yeah |
| 02:24.46 | Patlabor221 | and hunter isn't really a team so doing it on shots is harder |
| 02:25.00 | Patlabor221 | this is just a holdover till hunter is a real team |
| 02:25.00 | MrApathyCream | yes |
| 02:25.24 | Patlabor221 | it was a chese hack that woudl make the people happy but not break the precous protocoll |
| 02:25.53 | MrApathyCream | yah |
| 02:26.04 | Patlabor221 | gonna see if I can get get in base top textures as well |
| 02:26.05 | Patlabor221 | http://ryoko.bakadigital.com/temp/alternate/blue_basetop.png |
| 02:26.12 | Patlabor221 | that is a sample for blue |
| 02:26.21 | Patlabor221 | tho I am gonna reverse the colors |
| 02:27.15 | Patlabor221 | Tim gave me the OK to get rid of the usage of gray textures and geometry color |
| 02:27.21 | MrApathyCream | great |
| 02:27.27 | Patlabor221 | so if we are texturing we use the color from the texture |
| 02:27.28 | MrApathyCream | that was so silly |
| 02:27.36 | Patlabor221 | well I see why it was done |
| 02:27.54 | Patlabor221 | when you had 4 megs of texture ram you really needed to save as much as posible |
| 02:28.00 | Patlabor221 | and coding this is a bitch |
| 02:28.14 | MrApathyCream | cool pattern |
| 02:28.24 | MrApathyCream | stretch or repeat? |
| 02:28.28 | Patlabor221 | stretch |
| 02:28.32 | Patlabor221 | repeat looks lame |
| 02:28.51 | Patlabor221 | can also change the texture on the walls of bases on a per team basis too |
| 02:28.58 | MrApathyCream | nice |
| 02:29.11 | MrApathyCream | this might actually turn out to be really sweet |
| 02:29.31 | Patlabor221 | just have to go now and remove the colored geo for the boxtops and pyramids |
| 02:29.38 | MrApathyCream | i see he seems ok with missile too! |
| 02:29.47 | Patlabor221 | and make it revert to color if the texture load fials |
| 02:29.51 | Patlabor221 | yes |
| 02:29.57 | Patlabor221 | missile is gonna be "interesting" |
| 02:30.17 | Patlabor221 | you wanna remove the ref count thing from the texture objects for me? |
| 02:30.22 | MrApathyCream | ok |
| 02:30.25 | Patlabor221 | thanks |
| 02:30.34 | MrApathyCream | something i CAN do for a change |
| 02:30.38 | Patlabor221 | heh |
| 02:30.51 | Patlabor221 | I'm also gonna put all the texture names in BZDB |
| 02:31.19 | Patlabor221 | just makes them easyer to change |
| 02:31.52 | MrApathyCream | the grass is nice |
| 02:31.58 | MrApathyCream | BZDB cool |
| 02:32.04 | Patlabor221 | yeah tho that is a lower res version |
| 02:32.33 | Patlabor221 | http://ryoko.bakadigital.com/temp/alternate/std_ground.png |
| 02:32.40 | Patlabor221 | the shiznit |
| 02:33.15 | Patlabor221 | I'd also like some people to try this one |
| 02:33.16 | Patlabor221 | http://ryoko.bakadigital.com/temp/alternate/explode1.png |
| 02:33.39 | Patlabor221 | it has %50 alpha |
| 02:34.19 | MrApathyCream | still d/l the first one :( |
| 02:36.28 | MrApathyCream | awww sweet |
| 02:36.35 | MrApathyCream | grass#1 |
| 02:38.32 | creeperz | that an actual picture taken of grass? |
| 02:38.44 | Patlabor221 | I don't think so |
| 02:38.51 | Patlabor221 | it may be photosourced |
| 02:39.00 | creeperz | its good |
| 02:44.06 | CIA-1 | 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/win32/VC71/bzfs.vcproj: put the release build of bzfs in the right place. bin is nomore |
| 02:55.38 | creeperz | (how can i shoot myself with GM?) |
| 02:55.46 | Nidhoggr | scipio found a nice brick texture for the walls. |
| 02:56.02 | Patlabor221 | hit me with it |
| 02:56.21 | creeperz | why does patlabor221's wall texture remind me of coffee beans? |
| 02:56.39 | Patlabor221 | cus your wierd |
| 02:56.59 | creeperz | or if yu think bout it for a while, it looks like dimebags of hash |
| 02:57.08 | orchid | ~dict skeddies |
| 02:57.13 | Nidhoggr | hang on... |
| 02:57.18 | creeperz | lots of them... |
| 02:58.34 | creeperz | who made it? |
| 02:59.26 | Patlabor221 | ok you are extra wierd |
| 03:00.59 | CIA-1 | 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/data/caution.png: double res of texture, add some grit. |
| 03:02.43 | MrApathyCream | grit:) |
| 03:02.47 | Patlabor221 | grit |
| 03:02.57 | Patlabor221 | teleporters should look used |
| 03:04.18 | MrApathyCream | whats diff about explode, higher res? |
| 03:05.06 | creeperz | what is http://ryoko.bakadigital.com/temp/clouds.png ? |
| 03:05.09 | creeperz | what game? |
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| 03:06.07 | Scipio | w00 |
| 03:06.43 | Scipio | patlabor: http://www.dragon.org/chris/bzflag |
| 03:06.58 | Scipio | std_boxwall.png and std_boxwall_8bit.png |
| 03:07.01 | Patlabor221 | that is reallly reallly reallly red |
| 03:07.16 | Scipio | and i also stuck in a mod to your purple_tank.png |
| 03:07.32 | Scipio | i made the purple darker |
| 03:07.42 | Scipio | oh um, yeah, it's a red brick wall |
| 03:07.59 | Patlabor221 | needs more grit :) |
| 03:08.25 | Patlabor221 | those are clouds creeper |
| 03:08.33 | Patlabor221 | and don't worry about waht game |
| 03:08.59 | creeperz | i just liked the aiming thingy |
| 03:09.08 | Scipio | images.google.com/images?&q=%2Bbrick+%2Bwallpaper |
| 03:11.40 | Patlabor221 | is that a mod of the origonal purple? or the updated purple? |
| 03:13.41 | Scipio | a mod of the original purple |
| 03:13.53 | Scipio | i just used darker colors |
| 03:13.59 | Patlabor221 | oh I updated my purple too |
| 03:14.07 | Patlabor221 | check the one in CVS |
| 03:14.08 | Scipio | oh |
| 03:14.12 | Patlabor221 | I made them darker as well :) |
| 03:14.15 | Scipio | i'm not cvs saavy |
| 03:14.18 | Patlabor221 | it's a nice texture |
| 03:14.27 | Patlabor221 | Nidhoggr has current |
| 03:14.32 | Scipio | okie |
| 03:14.44 | Patlabor221 | gets a bit bright in the distance |
| 03:14.45 | Patlabor221 | but it looks good close up |
| 03:14.49 | Scipio | ah |
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| 03:15.00 | Scipio | the orig had problems distinguising between that and rogue |
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| 03:15.07 | Scipio | wow spelling =( |
| 03:15.18 | Scipio | okay apparently dinner is prepared, so i must away |
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| 03:15.40 | Scipio | & |
| 03:15.58 | Patlabor221 | yes I concur on that Scipio, I also changed the back texture |
| 03:16.01 | Patlabor221 | I updated all of them |
| 03:16.06 | Patlabor221 | blue is more blue, etc... |
| 03:16.47 | Patlabor221 | so far green is the best I think |
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| 03:47.15 | CIA-1 | 03dbrosius * 10bzflag/ (72 files in 8 dirs): #pragma warning is a VC, not a WIN32 thing |
| 03:47.16 | CIA-1 | 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/win32/VC71/bzfs.vcproj: more release changes |
| 03:48.09 | Patlabor221 | what VC did you tie it to? |
| 03:49.07 | MrApathyCream | #ifdef _MSC_VER |
| 03:49.08 | Quol | any developers here? - any news on 10.4? |
| 03:49.15 | MrApathyCream | it's a comin' quol |
| 03:49.19 | Patlabor221 | probably soon |
| 03:49.21 | learner | almosty |
| 03:49.23 | Patlabor221 | as soon as the bugs are worked out |
| 03:49.27 | Quol | great - can't wait :) |
| 03:49.36 | *** join/#bzflag bryjen (bryjen@ky-owensboro1a-242.owboky.adelphia.net) |
| 03:49.55 | Patlabor221 | I'll have these texture thingys worked out tongiht |
| 03:49.58 | Quol | my 10.2 is really screwing up on my PC - I am hoping that 10.4 will fix some of the issues :) |
| 03:50.01 | Patlabor221 | I hope |
| 03:50.21 | Patlabor221 | build up a 10.3 |
| 03:50.21 | Patlabor221 | you on windows? |
| 03:50.26 | Quol | I am not griping - you guys are doing a great job... |
| 03:50.31 | Quol | Pat - ya |
| 03:50.55 | Quol | are there many changes to 10.3 - worth building? |
| 03:50.57 | Patlabor221 | perhaps nidhoger can get you his recent build |
| 03:51.15 | Quol | I have CVS checked out - I can build from there |
| 03:51.37 | Quol | i was just waiting though - is it stable enough to do a build |
| 03:51.40 | Patlabor221 | well if you are looking for bugs to be fixed in 10.4 then they should be fixed in 10.3 :) |
| 03:51.44 | Nidhoggr | had patloabor on query :) |
| 03:51.45 | Nidhoggr | I'm going to start doing that daily and sticking on dragon.org |
| 03:51.47 | Patlabor221 | nothign is ever stale |
| 03:51.57 | Patlabor221 | stable |
| 03:52.27 | Patlabor221 | rabbits arn't black anymore, is that change enough for ya? |
| 03:52.28 | bryjen | stable: n. where MrAC keeps his horsies |
| 03:52.44 | Quol | do you guys have any reported issues with the HUD's going all black or discoloring etc.. - like smearing of the images etc..? |
| 03:52.57 | Patlabor221 | that would be the z buffer issue |
| 03:52.59 | Patlabor221 | it's fixed |
| 03:53.25 | Quol | ahh - cool - I will check it out and build then - thanks for the tips |
| 03:53.46 | Quol | also - any bzfs people in the house - I am having issues with the setgroup commands |
| 03:54.09 | Nidhoggr | should be fixed in newer cvs (about a week ago) |
| 03:54.23 | MrApathyCream | quol that was a bug |
| 03:54.35 | Quol | thanks Nidhoggr - are the fixes for the spawns in there also? |
| 03:54.39 | MrApathyCream | yes |
| 03:54.42 | MrApathyCream | well |
| 03:54.44 | MrApathyCream | better anyway |
| 03:54.54 | Patlabor221 | ok so we don't need std_boxwall anymore |
| 03:54.58 | Patlabor221 | just boxwall |
| 03:55.02 | Nidhoggr | a little |
| 03:55.03 | Patlabor221 | and same for pyramid |
| 03:55.39 | MrApathyCream | w00t |
| 03:56.31 | Quol | is it better to build in VC6 or in .net 2003? |
| 03:56.32 | MrApathyCream | patlabor is off the hook |
| 03:56.43 | Quol | or doesn't matter |
| 03:56.49 | Patlabor221 | there is no real dif in the final exe |
| 03:56.52 | Nidhoggr | I'm using .net 2003, and had some issues :) |
| 03:57.01 | Nidhoggr | but pat fixed most of them |
| 03:57.10 | Patlabor221 | yeah the installer project needs looked at in .net |
| 03:57.19 | MrApathyCream | Patlabor221: are all the fonts in TexMan now too? |
| 03:57.23 | Quol | I will try VC6 then... |
| 03:57.49 | Patlabor221 | no they are not |
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| 03:59.01 | MrApathyCream | i wonder if i can get rid of rep from OpenGLTexture without fonts in TexMan |
| 03:59.22 | Patlabor221 | dono |
| 03:59.34 | Patlabor221 | you could put fonts in texman |
| 03:59.42 | MrApathyCream | heh |
| 04:00.19 | Patlabor221 | me must lie down for a bit as the headake goes away |
| 04:00.31 | Patlabor221 | and the psudoefedrine wears off |
| 04:03.04 | MrApathyCream | heh |
| 04:03.27 | MrApathyCream | where's that thief flag, anyway? |
| 04:04.08 | Quol | my poor PIII 550 is getting slower - at least it feals that way :) |
| 04:05.24 | Quol | err - Patlabor221, 32 errors building bzflag - geometry.lib, remoteplayer.obj etc.. |
| 04:05.40 | Quol | eometry.lib(EighthDBoxSceneNode.obj) : error LNK2001: unresolved external symbol "protected: __thiscall StateDatabase::StateDatabase(void)" (??0StateDatabase@@IAE@XZ) |
| 04:05.40 | MrApathyCream | quol in vc6? |
| 04:05.44 | Quol | ya |
| 04:06.39 | Quol | all around the StateDatabase(viod) |
| 04:06.52 | MrApathyCream | StateDatabase is in common |
| 04:06.57 | MrApathyCream | does that build? |
| 04:07.14 | MrApathyCream | common that is |
| 04:07.16 | Quol | yes |
| 04:07.23 | Quol | common was OK |
| 04:07.46 | Quol | geometry, net and obstacle aare all Ok also |
| 04:08.08 | Quol | ogl, mediafile and date too - Ok that is |
| 04:08.13 | MrApathyCream | well EightDBox is in geometry |
| 04:08.22 | Quol | craps out in bzflag.. |
| 04:08.25 | MrApathyCream | ah |
| 04:08.49 | MrApathyCream | so what's the first error line, again? |
| 04:08.52 | Quol | err - I have it set to build the release - should I build the debug? |
| 04:08.57 | MrApathyCream | shouldn't matter |
| 04:09.12 | learner | evening jb |
| 04:09.25 | Quol | Generating Code... |
| 04:09.25 | Quol | Linking... |
| 04:09.25 | Quol | common.lib(StateDatabase.obj) : error LNK2005: "private: static class StateDatabase * Singleton<class StateDatabase>::_instance" (?_instance@?$Singleton@VStateDatabase@@@@0PAVStateDatabase@@A) already defined in RemotePlayer.obj |
| 04:09.25 | Quol | geometry.lib(EighthDBoxSceneNode.obj) : error LNK2001: unresolved external symbol "protected: __thiscall StateDatabase::StateDatabase(void)" (??0StateDatabase@@IAE@XZ) |
| 04:10.31 | Quol | that's with CVS checked out 10 minutes ago.. |
| 04:10.46 | MrApathyCream | hmmm |
| 04:10.55 | MrApathyCream | it's like it thinks there's a variable defined in a .h file |
| 04:11.33 | MrApathyCream | i'm building with VC6 just fine |
| 04:11.44 | Quol | really - weird |
| 04:11.52 | Quol | with latest CVS I guess |
| 04:12.05 | MrApathyCream | try build /batch build/rebuild all ? |
| 04:14.26 | JBdiGriz | evening learner |
| 04:14.35 | Quol | MrApathyCream: trying now |
| 04:15.13 | MrApathyCream | quol make sure at the bottom of Singleton.h, the line |
| 04:15.14 | MrApathyCream | template < typename T > |
| 04:15.14 | MrApathyCream | T* Singleton<T>::_instance = 0; |
| 04:15.17 | MrApathyCream | is commented OUT |
| 04:16.04 | learner | heh |
| 04:17.15 | JBdiGriz | typing in your sleep again :) |
| 04:17.46 | learner | oh yea? I'm still sleeping? jeesh.. |
| 04:21.11 | MrApathyCream | hmmm snow tomorrow nite for learner and MAC |
| 04:23.18 | Quol | MrApathyCream: it workes with batch build it seems |
| 04:23.37 | Quol | and the lines were already commented out in Singelton.h |
| 04:24.21 | MrApathyCream | ok |
| 04:24.28 | MrApathyCream | it will work with plain build from now on |
| 04:24.39 | MrApathyCream | just somethin boosted, that needed full buildin |
| 04:34.58 | *** join/#bzflag guest039 (~447ca683@server24.greatnet.de) |
| 04:35.51 | guest039 | How do you start a server |
| 04:35.55 | guest039 | (on a pc) |
| 04:36.34 | *** join/#bzflag guest03 (~447ca683@server24.greatnet.de) |
| 04:37.33 | MrApathyCream | guest03: open a cmd window, and navigate to the bzflag dir |
| 04:37.39 | MrApathyCream | then type bzfs -help |
| 04:37.48 | MrApathyCream | this will give you all the command line options, |
| 04:37.55 | MrApathyCream | start bzfs again, with whatever options you like |
| 04:37.57 | MrApathyCream | here's a simple one |
| 04:38.07 | MrApathyCream | bzfs +f good -j -c |
| 04:38.24 | MrApathyCream | that starts a server, with all good flags, allows jumping, and is capture the flag style |
| 04:39.38 | MrApathyCream | Or if you like, you can BZFS Configuration builder from the start menu (BZFlag group/server) |
| 04:39.44 | MrApathyCream | and fill in the info, then hit build. |
| 04:39.51 | MrApathyCream | save the generated stuff to a file, say myconf.conf |
| 04:40.01 | MrApathyCream | and start bzfs like bzfs -conf c:\myconf.conf |
| 04:44.56 | Quol | nice new textures |
| 04:45.44 | Quol | I also like the fact that you can edit your e-mail address right in the client now :) |
| 04:46.26 | creeperz | that is cool huh? |
| 04:49.23 | Quol | seems a little heavier though - it chokes on my PIII 550 :( |
| 04:49.48 | Quol | only 20fps on linear mipmap linear... |
| 04:56.39 | Quol | was a little better with lighting off - I also like the painting on the tanks now - nice camoflauge - how do you spell that? |
| 04:58.18 | creeperz | you spelled it right |
| 04:58.29 | Noodleman | http://stats.bzflag.org/annihilation/ |
| 04:58.32 | Noodleman | take a look :-) |
| 04:59.16 | creeperz | nice :-D |
| 04:59.32 | Noodleman | did you see the funny i made at the bottom? |
| 04:59.51 | MrApathyCream | the tank textures are really nice |
| 05:00.00 | MrApathyCream | they make a huge difference |
| 05:00.01 | creeperz | lol |
| 05:00.44 | creeperz | why does proper grammar not sound intimidating? :-) |
| 05:01.10 | creeperz | "...real man or woman?" |
| 05:01.10 | Noodleman | tough guys don't care about no grammar! |
| 05:01.16 | creeperz | lol |
| 05:01.24 | Noodleman | pyrobunny helped me with that |
| 05:01.42 | creeperz | cool |
| 05:01.57 | Noodleman | think it's good enough to be official? |
| 05:02.07 | creeperz | hmm, seems my pilotlight on my furnace went out and i am too lazy to relight it tonight |
| 05:02.12 | creeperz | yea |
| 05:02.13 | Noodleman | heh |
| 05:02.17 | Noodleman | ok, cool |
| 05:02.34 | creeperz | i have 2 options here... |
| 05:02.44 | creeperz | 1. i freeze my rear off all night |
| 05:03.02 | creeperz | 2. i go sleep in my parents house with the nice warm wood stove |
| 05:03.16 | Noodleman | i'd opt for the latter |
| 05:03.32 | creeperz | 3. i turn the gas up all the way for 5 min then light a match and light the pilotlight that way |
| 05:04.53 | Noodleman | haha |
| 05:05.03 | Noodleman | that one would keep oyu the warmest |
| 05:05.16 | creeperz | haha |
| 05:05.18 | creeperz | yea |
| 05:06.45 | CIA-1 | 03brlcad * 10bzflag/ (5 files in 2 dirs): |
| 05:06.46 | CIA-1 | added an optional parameter to -cr to specify the city size (some sort of twisted integer building density). |
| 05:06.48 | CIA-1 | this should allow players to regain the density in 1.7 (set to 4, i believe). |
| 05:06.50 | CIA-1 | fulfills sf request 861329. |
| 05:10.13 | creeperz | see yu |
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| 05:14.55 | CIA-1 | 03brlcad * 10bzflag/man/bzfs.6s: do not forget the precious manpage (xml will be synced later) update for the optional -cr parameter. |
| 05:18.59 | learner | woo hoo.. high priority feature request is hopefullly fulfilled now |
| 05:19.14 | learner | though the priority was dubious |
| 05:21.26 | Patlabor221 | a manpage update was high priority? |
| 05:21.40 | learner | no, sf request |
| 05:21.52 | Patlabor221 | for a manpage update? |
| 05:22.02 | learner | no, for building density from 1.7 |
| 05:22.10 | Patlabor221 | oh |
| 05:22.27 | Patlabor221 | I see |
| 05:22.37 | Nidhoggr | ok.. another hopefully easy one. since it was fairly quick for you to change the colors of hunters, patlabor, how easy would it be to change the text of rogue to "hunter" when you right click on a tank? |
| 05:22.43 | learner | still, it is kinda need to set it high now :) |
| 05:23.14 | Patlabor221 | umm that may be GetTeamName, if it is, easy, if it's not, hard |
| 05:23.17 | Patlabor221 | I can try it |
| 05:24.28 | Nidhoggr | excellent |
| 05:24.41 | CIA-1 | 03brlcad * 10bzflag/ChangeLog: option to -cr |
| 05:25.19 | learner | how goes the illness patlabor? |
| 05:25.29 | Patlabor221 | hmmm how can I get access to world inside of common |
| 05:25.32 | Patlabor221 | it is better |
| 05:25.40 | learner | excellent |
| 05:25.45 | Patlabor221 | I can think and function |
| 05:25.55 | Patlabor221 | and not drain from the nose :) |
| 05:25.57 | Patlabor221 | thanks for asking. |
| 05:26.01 | learner | all good things |
| 05:26.18 | Patlabor221 | yes tho I think the sudoefedrin is wearing off |
| 05:26.46 | SportChick | sorry, I missed it earlier (although I know it was discussed)...what is the radar SUPPOSED to show when a tank is burrowed |
| 05:27.28 | Patlabor221 | + |
| 05:28.05 | learner | out of sight, but rather easy to kill :) |
| 05:28.58 | learner | cogelo con take it easy! |
| 05:31.16 | learner | eek |
| 05:31.54 | MrApathyCream | SportChick: now just the flag |
| 05:31.58 | MrApathyCream | as the tank is burried |
| 05:32.13 | SportChick | not the team color? |
| 05:32.38 | MrApathyCream | learner: as well as bzfs.conf :) |
| 05:32.42 | SportChick | and the flag is hard to see...looks like a slightly bigger flag than the others (shows up as a white cross in 1.10.3) |
| 05:32.49 | MrApathyCream | SportChick: yes |
| 05:33.07 | MrApathyCream | bigger, cause the flag is alittle hight up than a ground flag |
| 05:33.18 | SportChick | MAC, yes on the flag, but no team color? |
| 05:33.25 | MrApathyCream | no team color |
| 05:33.25 | SportChick | cuz I can't see one |
| 05:33.30 | MrApathyCream | the radar has difficulty seeing the tank |
| 05:33.42 | SportChick | mind if I ask why no color? |
| 05:33.58 | MrApathyCream | there is a color, it's just that the size of your tank is small/obscured by the flag |
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| 05:34.40 | SportChick | hm... the problem I see is that if two burrows are there one could shoot at another (although I say that having not yet looked at radar closely with burrow) |
| 05:35.06 | MrApathyCream | well targetting will tell you |
| 05:35.18 | MrApathyCream | and you could turn flags on radar off :) |
| 05:35.40 | SportChick | ah...then you would see the guy? |
| 05:35.45 | SportChick | (his color)? |
| 05:35.45 | MrApathyCream | i think so |
| 05:35.51 | MrApathyCream | haven't tried |
| 05:35.59 | SportChick | ~dragon |
| 05:36.37 | learner | hrm.. |
| 05:36.52 | Tupone | MrApathyCream: thankx for the MSC_VER things |
| 05:36.58 | MrApathyCream | okies |
| 05:37.19 | MrApathyCream | rabbit drop down? |
| 05:37.28 | SportChick | okay, thanks Mac |
| 05:37.33 | learner | at least for this browser |
| 05:38.14 | MrApathyCream | learner you have to choose rabbit in order for that to enable :) |
| 05:38.16 | learner | ah never mind |
| 05:38.19 | learner | just found it :) |
| 05:39.35 | Tupone | someone noted the fixedTime thingies? |
| 05:40.02 | Tupone | ~seen orchid |
| 05:40.11 | | orchid <~bzgirl@toronto-hs-64-26-176-100.s-ip.magma.ca> was last seen on IRC in channel #bzflag, 2h 43m 3s ago, saying: '~dict skeddies'. |
| 05:40.55 | MrApathyCream | learner: bzfs help should be -cr {density} or something |
| 05:45.10 | MrApathyCream | hmmm, i wonder when/if it will be a good idea to have a CmdLineOption class, which knows how to handle itself |
| 05:45.19 | MrApathyCream | (representing on option) |
| 05:46.46 | MrApathyCream | bbiab |
| 05:46.59 | SportChick | pat's getting some ribbing in dragon |
| 05:47.17 | SportChick | what did you mean, Pat? |
| 05:47.25 | SportChick | "dang hunter shots are bad" |
| 05:47.35 | Patlabor221 | I broke them |
| 05:47.57 | SportChick | oops |
| 05:48.33 | Patlabor221 | I go in as observer to verify my changes before I commit them :) |
| 05:48.44 | SportChick | good idea! :) |
| 05:49.17 | *** part/#bzflag mozul (~kirk@ca-redbch-cuda1-c10a-a-255.stmnca.adelphia.net) |
| 05:52.00 | learner | MrApathyCream: I have big plans for cmdlineoptions.. it's going mostly bye bye |
| 05:52.27 | Patlabor221 | Nidhoggr: you want the "looking at..." message right? |
| 05:52.33 | Nidhoggr | yes |
| 05:53.08 | Patlabor221 | k |
| 05:53.38 | Patlabor221 | the locked on message too? |
| 05:54.14 | Nidhoggr | anything that says "rogue" etc. |
| 05:54.31 | Patlabor221 | well that's the thing "rogue" isn't a hardcoded literal in the code |
| 05:54.41 | Nidhoggr | ah |
| 05:54.43 | Patlabor221 | and I can't change it at the get team level |
| 05:54.48 | Patlabor221 | so I have to find the places |
| 05:55.10 | Nidhoggr | I'll see if I can find more places... bbiab. |
| 05:55.19 | Patlabor221 | I think those are the only ones |
| 05:55.59 | learner | and curly {} don't imply optional.. square [] do -- not sure about "density" as it's not really a density, not really anything except some integer used in a funky way to compute a density |
| 05:56.02 | learner | but then, who cares. :) |
| 05:56.41 | Patlabor221 | damn the pyramid texture sucks |
| 05:56.42 | SportChick | bbl...gonna see if I can make this laptop load anything worth seeing |
| 05:56.44 | Patlabor221 | like totaly |
| 05:56.46 | CIA-1 | 03brlcad * 10bzflag/ (man/bzfs.6s src/bzfs/CmdLineOptions.cxx): you say potato, I say density |
| 06:02.06 | Nidhoggr | got shot by was the other message |
| 06:02.30 | Nidhoggr | got shot by dude (rogue) |
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| 06:03.38 | SportChick | Well, that was a frustrating experience |
| 06:04.20 | SportChick | is there a newer version that's been compiled for windows? I understand the texturing bug has been fixed, but need to download the latest version. |
| 06:04.32 | SportChick | MAC, do you have a newer one on your website? |
| 06:06.13 | CIA-1 | 03atupone * 10bzflag/src/bzflag/playing.cxx: unused variable dropped |
| 06:13.10 | CIA-1 | 03brlcad * 10bzflag/misc/bzfs_conf.html: add the optional -cr option value |
| 06:13.34 | MrApathyCream | um they are dated |
| 06:13.38 | MrApathyCream | so you can see |
| 06:13.52 | MrApathyCream | i'll post another one if you like altho you'll have to wait 1/2 hour :(* |
| 06:14.16 | Patlabor221 | MAC I'm gonna make one in a sec |
| 06:14.23 | MrApathyCream | k |
| 06:14.25 | CIA-1 | 03brlcad * 10bzflag/misc/bzfs_conf.html: probably need a space |
| 06:14.25 | SportChick | pat's doing it, MAC, thanks |
| 06:14.37 | MrApathyCream | k |
| 06:15.24 | learner | mac, the logic was a little funky for the -cr option, since you could enable it while ffa was set (you'd click and it'd disable) |
| 06:15.31 | learner | so I fixed |
| 06:15.38 | MrApathyCream | Patlabor221: so whenever an OpenGLTexture is created, do we just a glBindTexture? |
| 06:15.45 | MrApathyCream | learner: thanks |
| 06:16.03 | MrApathyCream | Patlabor221: forever? (assuming texobjs exist) |
| 06:16.18 | Patlabor221 | well you bind it once to get the ID |
| 06:16.33 | Patlabor221 | then you rebind the ID each time you call bind |
| 06:16.37 | Patlabor221 | that reloads it |
| 06:16.46 | MrApathyCream | ah |
| 06:16.47 | Patlabor221 | but yes, you give it to GL and GL keeps it around |
| 06:16.52 | Patlabor221 | we don't need the image data anymore |
| 06:16.55 | Patlabor221 | not in ram |
| 06:16.58 | learner | bedtime |
| 06:17.07 | captain_proton | err |
| 06:17.11 | MrApathyCream | so bind it up front, then kill the image bits? |
| 06:17.16 | captain_proton | you get the id when you create the texture |
| 06:17.22 | captain_proton | but to load it into vram you have to bind |
| 06:17.46 | Patlabor221 | actualy it can stay in vram cap, depending on the implementation |
| 06:17.56 | Patlabor221 | the subsequent binds just make it the current texture |
| 06:17.59 | Patlabor221 | set the state machine |
| 06:18.04 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: well - you don't get an ID from binding, ever |
| 06:18.05 | Patlabor221 | very similar to lists |
| 06:18.09 | Patlabor221 | true |
| 06:18.21 | Patlabor221 | fromt he function |
| 06:18.22 | SportChick | wimping out on us, learner? |
| 06:18.26 | MrApathyCream | Patlabor221: if you don't have enough vram, don't you need it in reg memory? |
| 06:18.40 | MrApathyCream | yes learner: quite early, no? |
| 06:18.40 | *** part/#bzflag Tupone (~Tupone@ppp-82-84-123-209.cust-adsl.tiscali.it) |
| 06:18.48 | Patlabor221 | no MAC |
| 06:18.53 | Patlabor221 | GL handles where it goes |
| 06:18.59 | Patlabor221 | you have no controll over where GL puts it |
| 06:19.05 | MrApathyCream | ok |
| 06:19.07 | Patlabor221 | usualy it will try to put them in vram |
| 06:19.17 | Patlabor221 | if it runs out, it will put it in AGP mem |
| 06:19.29 | Patlabor221 | if you dont' have AGP it puts it in system ram |
| 06:19.30 | MrApathyCream | i'm thinking i just remove OpenGLTexture, and redo it as needed |
| 06:19.37 | MrApathyCream | the orig code is gnarly |
| 06:19.49 | captain_proton | well, you -do- have control, via the fence extensions, but we'll ignore that for now l;) |
| 06:19.52 | Patlabor221 | ok then I'll just redo it in texture manager dont' worry about it |
| 06:20.11 | Patlabor221 | yes cap, in extenstions you do, but not in normal stuff in GL 1.1 |
| 06:20.31 | MrApathyCream | ok |
| 06:20.33 | Patlabor221 | I can replace the core of texture manager with the one from SGL later |
| 06:21.25 | CIA-1 | 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/data/ (10 files): |
| 06:21.25 | CIA-1 | add new team base textures |
| 06:21.27 | CIA-1 | add color into roof and pyramid textures |
| 06:22.05 | MrApathyCream | you da man |
| 06:22.20 | MrApathyCream | let's call this the PatLabor Release |
| 06:22.56 | SportChick | :) |
| 06:23.48 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: ...SGL? |
| 06:23.56 | Patlabor221 | what LGE got renamed too |
| 06:24.05 | captain_proton | ah |
| 06:24.20 | Patlabor221 | Simple Game Library |
| 06:24.27 | Patlabor221 | makes more sense since it's isn't an engine |
| 06:24.56 | Patlabor221 | it'll give BZ texture timeouts too |
| 06:25.02 | CIA-1 | 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/ (8 files in 4 dirs): |
| 06:25.04 | CIA-1 | texture names into BZDB |
| 06:25.06 | CIA-1 | use hunter team name for rabbit mode |
| 06:25.08 | CIA-1 | remove usage of "std_" box and pyramid textures |
| 06:25.10 | CIA-1 | all textures now use texture colors |
| 06:25.12 | CIA-1 | if texture load fails drop to no texture style usage. |
| 06:26.13 | Patlabor221 | hunter should now look like a "virtual team" |
| 06:26.32 | Patlabor221 | old clients will see it as rouge, but new clients will see it say hunter |
| 06:28.19 | CIA-1 | 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/data/tank.png: no need for old single color tank texture |
| 06:31.10 | *** join/#bzflag Dave2 (~dave@teppic.demon.co.uk) |
| 06:32.52 | CIA-1 | 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/ChangeLog: |
| 06:33.02 | Patlabor221 | got some errors from CIA |
| 06:33.03 | Patlabor221 | Use of uninitialized value at /cvsroot/bzflag/CVSROOT/ciabot.pl line 117, <STDIN> chunk 7. |
| 06:33.03 | Patlabor221 | Use of uninitialized value at /cvsroot/bzflag/CVSROOT/ciabot.pl line 120, <STDIN> chunk 7. |
| 06:33.03 | Patlabor221 | Use of uninitialized value at /cvsroot/bzflag/CVSROOT/ciabot.pl line 224. |
| 06:34.02 | MrApathyCream | that is some powerful cold medicine |
| 06:34.05 | CIA-1 | 03dbrosius * 10bzflag/misc/bzfs_conf.html: small re-org |
| 06:34.41 | Patlabor221 | you do know that sudafed is fake speed right? |
| 06:35.06 | MrApathyCream | heh |
| 06:35.19 | MrApathyCream | if only it would make you a better speller :) |
| 06:36.37 | Patlabor221 | just be glad it dosn't make me worse |
| 06:36.46 | MrApathyCream | heh |
| 06:36.53 | Patlabor221 | ok large was the last installer? |
| 06:37.00 | Patlabor221 | how ! ok |
| 06:37.07 | MrApathyCream | cvs update: warning: bzflag/src/bzflag/playing.cxx was lost |
| 06:37.10 | MrApathyCream | ? |
| 06:37.18 | Patlabor221 | lost? |
| 06:37.24 | MrApathyCream | ? |
| 06:37.33 | MrApathyCream | save off playing.cxx |
| 06:38.13 | Patlabor221 | it made me a new one |
| 06:38.23 | MrApathyCream | hmmm |
| 06:38.24 | Patlabor221 | if I remove it |
| 06:38.25 | Patlabor221 | odd |
| 06:38.31 | MrApathyCream | i got one when just up that file |
| 06:38.37 | MrApathyCream | dunno |
| 06:38.48 | Patlabor221 | I got a CIA error on my last commit |
| 06:39.00 | MrApathyCream | odd |
| 06:39.13 | MrApathyCream | cvs goin' down? |
| 06:39.21 | Patlabor221 | dono |
| 06:40.18 | Patlabor221 | arggg dsl not happy |
| 06:42.57 | Patlabor221 | odd it just laged for like 5 min then picked back up |
| 06:43.08 | CIA-1 | 03dbrosius * 10bzflag/src/bzfs/CmdLineOptions.cxx: add density info |
| 06:44.39 | Patlabor221 | http://jeffm.bakadigital.com/BZ/10.3/bzflagW32-1.10.3-2003.13.1.exe |
| 06:44.46 | Patlabor221 | installer with all the stuff |
| 06:47.22 | Patlabor221 | ok all the texture changes only added like 300k to the base installer, and that's with doubling the res on allmost all base textures |
| 06:47.34 | MrApathyCream | good |
| 06:47.42 | Patlabor221 | the "high res" installer, will add another 3 megs tho :) |
| 06:47.50 | MrApathyCream | :) |
| 06:48.30 | Patlabor221 | most of that 300k is the fact that the one tank texture is now 6 tank textures |
| 06:48.57 | Patlabor221 | 7 tank textures |
| 06:49.36 | MrApathyCream | mmm |
| 06:49.44 | MrApathyCream | so how much vid ram are we up to? |
| 06:50.36 | CIA-1 | 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/data/menu_arrow.png: was 2x the size it needs to be. thing is only 80x80 max |
| 06:50.39 | Patlabor221 | in the standard? |
| 06:50.51 | Patlabor221 | ohh 3-4 megs for textures at most |
| 06:50.54 | MrApathyCream | yes |
| 06:50.58 | Patlabor221 | nothing |
| 06:51.06 | MrApathyCream | cool |
| 06:51.17 | Patlabor221 | well depends on the game too |
| 06:51.25 | Patlabor221 | since textures are only loaded as needed |
| 06:51.27 | MrApathyCream | yeah |
| 06:51.39 | Patlabor221 | so no red tanks, no loaded red textures |
| 06:52.05 | Patlabor221 | and if you really want to shim it down, you can remove the CTF base textures and it will go back to the boxwall textures |
| 06:53.06 | MrApathyCream | this is gonna knock people out |
| 06:53.28 | Patlabor221 | really, I think it still looks like ass |
| 06:53.59 | MrApathyCream | yes, but it's been that way for years. |
| 06:54.06 | MrApathyCream | and it's a whole lot better |
| 06:54.13 | MrApathyCream | but we expect big things from you :) |
| 06:55.26 | Patlabor221 | well the next stuff is gonna be hard |
| 06:55.29 | Patlabor221 | so I may crap out |
| 06:55.42 | Patlabor221 | depends how soon have a CVS place to do it in |
| 06:56.09 | MrApathyCream | well hopefully we can put 1.10.4 out soon |
| 06:56.12 | MrApathyCream | and then open the floodgates |
| 06:58.22 | Patlabor221 | ohh I can probably fix the 8 light limit thing on the ground too |
| 06:58.28 | Patlabor221 | or at least minimise it |
| 06:58.52 | MrApathyCream | neat |
| 06:58.55 | Patlabor221 | and help ye olde fillrate |
| 06:59.11 | Patlabor221 | have you heard anyone say that its faster now with all these changes? |
| 07:01.16 | MrApathyCream | haven't heard either way |
| 07:01.26 | MrApathyCream | i'll check my fps in a sec |
| 07:02.32 | Patlabor221 | with textures on it will make less color state changes |
| 07:02.39 | Patlabor221 | tho a texture sort would be best |
| 07:02.52 | SportChick | don't believe me, eh? |
| 07:03.05 | MrApathyCream | SportChick: ? |
| 07:03.07 | Patlabor221 | well it seems unlikey knowing what I changed |
| 07:03.13 | Patlabor221 | she says people say it's faster |
| 07:03.22 | MrApathyCream | ah |
| 07:03.37 | Patlabor221 | it does a lot more texture swaps now |
| 07:03.47 | Patlabor221 | unless color blending is slow on current systems |
| 07:03.51 | Patlabor221 | it does a lot less of that |
| 07:04.06 | Patlabor221 | more textures are power of 2 as well, maybe that helps |
| 07:04.30 | MrApathyCream | you would think it would just do that conversion on load |
| 07:04.45 | Patlabor221 | GL does and it's not allways optimal |
| 07:04.52 | MrApathyCream | ah |
| 07:05.26 | Patlabor221 | http://jeffm.bakadigital.com/BZ/10.3/alternate.zip |
| 07:05.33 | Patlabor221 | that's the current high res pack |
| 07:05.45 | MrApathyCream | cool, will give a try |
| 07:06.50 | SportChick | sorry..was brushing teeth..hard to type 1 handed |
| 07:07.49 | Patlabor221 | that and the other file are the latest windows build |
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| 07:38.34 | CIA-1 | 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/package/win32/nsis/ (BZFlag_high_res.nsi Makefile.am): add an installer script for a larger high res installer |
| 07:43.20 | Patlabor221 | I want to make one more change to the tank model too |
| 07:43.25 | Patlabor221 | make the middle solid |
| 07:44.36 | Patlabor221 | but that will be tomorow |
| 07:44.38 | Patlabor221 | see ya all |
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| 08:54.56 | CIA-1 | 03dbrosius * 10bzflag/BUGS: doc the team flag id problem |
| 09:00.40 | MrApathyCream | well, off to bed |
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| 09:13.39 | bomber | moin |
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| 10:37.24 | CIA-1 | 03chestal * 10bzflag/src/ (bzflag/playing.cxx bzfs/CmdLineOptions.cxx bzfs/bzfs.cxx): hopefully fix all assumptions that flag[i] is teamflag for team i |
| 10:38.12 | CIA-1 | 03chestal * 10bzflag/BUGS: team flag assumption in server no longer applies |
| 10:39.39 | CIA-1 | 03chestal * 10bzflag/BUGS: all your bases are belong to whitish |
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| 10:40.35 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o larsl] by ChanServ |
| 10:42.41 | Pimpinella | Chestal: du wolltest mehr Info zu dem Bug mit den Pyramiden: Es betrifft nur mittelgroße Pyramiden, kleine und große funktionieren wie sie sollten. |
| 10:45.19 | Pimpinella | Wenn ich daas richtig beobachtet habe generiert -cr Pyramiden in drei unterschiedlichen größen, es ist dann die mittlere Größe, sollten es vier verschiedene Größen sein ist es die zweitkleinste |
| 10:45.32 | Chestal | Pimpinella: Tupone hat heutenacht nen FIx gemacht, naja,workaround, vieleicht ist es weg |
| 10:45.51 | Pimpinella | ok ich versuchs nachher mal |
| 10:58.19 | CIA-1 | 03chestal * 10bzflag/BUGS: bots do not sapwn on base after capture |
| 11:14.38 | CIA-1 | 03larsl * 10bzflag/BUGS: Added flag drop bug with multiple bases |
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| 11:35.54 | your_dog | good morning all |
| 12:05.23 | your_dog | hey Noodleman, you here? |
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| 12:59.37 | CIA-1 | 03brlcad * 10bzflag/src/bzfs/CmdLineOptions.cxx: speeling |
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